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02-20-24 16:41 #19044
Posts: 77Great! They should know: no service no money; no good service, no tips.
Originally Posted by Zenduka1 [View Original Post]
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02-20-24 11:41 #19043
Posts: 35My way part II the room (and some girls)
Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone [View Original Post]
I'm not really that much of a fan of HK, per se. At this point in my life, I'm not that interested in just having a quickie in the room. When I was younger, I just wanted variety and volume, but I have kind of "graduated" from that level. Now I go there to build connections with a few girls, and then I stop going. I've found that if you build a connection with just one girl, it opens up a whole different world. I had that before, but then I had a long absence (read long term relationship), so I'm just getting back into the game. The problem is finding the right girl, who is willing to mix business and pleasure. So right now I'm in the phase of going to HK frequently to make that connection (I live about an hour away from Tijuana). And yes, in the process I will have some quickies in the room, of course.
So this is my main issue with the pros vs amateurs. Pro's are girls who have been working regularly there for a while. They are always there, punching the clock. The problem with these girls, from my perspective, is that they fall into one of two categories. In the first category are the girls that like the lifestyle more than they like men. Men are somewhat secondary in their lives, if they are even present. In the second category are the women who are chained to the lifestyle through some family circumstance. They have little freedom, and a lot of obligations. So, while some of them can be personable and accommodating, you can never make that much inroads with them, it seems. Everything is kept on a "business" level, in other words. Amateurs, on the other hand, don't like the lifestyle. They tend to be younger and / or freer. They go there infrequently, and only earn enough to satisfy their immediate needs before heading back home. They are less business-like, and most importantly, more willing to see you outside the club. At least, this has been my experience.
As far as seeing girls outside the club. It's also important that the girl likes you on some level and wants to do stuff with you as opposed to just trying to get money off you. You can usually tell. As long as they don't ask me for money, I will be generous with them. Call me crazy, but I actually like spending money on women, as long as it fits my budget (I'm not rich, but I'm not poor ether. I have enough disposable income where the money isn't really that big of a deal to me.). Money gives you leverage and power when dealing with women. I don't like it when women can totally dictate the terms of the relationship, which is why I have never engaged in those friends with benefits style relationships. A man needs to pay, IMHO! That being said, you also need to bring something else to the table besides money, or you are just a sugar-daddy.
You may ask: Why try to pick up prostitutes in HK? Why not go to a normal club on revolution or something?
In my situation, a big reason is I just cannot get down there on the weekend, so HK is about the only place to go.
It's just a bit trickier to do it in regular clubs, especially as an American with "limited" spanish.
Also, girls in these clubs can be pros too, sometimes just in other ways. Really, in poorer countries, a non-pro is just another name for an ugly girl.
I like bad girls. Probably not the best thing to like, but oh well. I can't imaging trying to meet a girl at a bible study or something. I can't be with someone who is too sexually or socially conservative. They have to like sex and be open minded.
HK girls can be wild and crazy, and know how to party. They have this live for the day attitude which I find appealing. Of course, they can be crazy in a bad way too, but that's a story for another time.
As for the other point, If you want to set a price up front and negotiate before going to the room, that's fine and probably safer than my method. But. There is also more payoff to my method, as I will explain later. BTW, I don't believe there is a sure fire way to prevent striking out in the room. No matter what you do there is always the risk factor with a new girl.
These are my last three sessions, in order. They happened on different dates. I'm a low volume guy at this point and pretty selective, so sometimes I will go the the club without taking a girl up at all, or I will just go with one girl. (I'm not a guy who likes to kiss and tell so I'm not going to say names, or exact services provided.).
1) Strike out: This girl spoke good english (see. Already a bad sign, but no, she did not wear glasses) I asked her how she came to speak english and she said from her job managing a timeshare in playa del carmen, or something like that. I though that was plausible. She seemed to have a shtick (major red flag), when it came to dealing with customers, of immediately trying to grind on their lap. I really wasn't into the lap dances, though, and she kept doing it, which was kind of awkward. Really, at this point I was still like a newb after not having been in the game for over 4 years. My spidey-sense wasn't working, so I ignored all the warning signs. The main thing was that I potentially thought she could be freaky in bed, so I said, "hey, let's go to the room. " She quoted me $100. I said "OK". I did not have my own room on this visit, so we went to the exorbitantly priced short term room. I think the room manager may have actually laughed in my face as I handed over my life savings for 20 minutes in this small, cramped, dingy, hooker room. When, we got to the room, she immediately asked for the money and I obliged like an idiot. Well, once she got the money, the rules started coming out. "None of this" and "I don't do that". I was about to ask for my money back, but I wasn't really in the mood for a confrontation, so I just went with it. We got down to business but it was just that: all business. A boring session with basically no chemistry.
After this, I realized that I needed to up my game a little bit. This was my second strikeout and I was worried that HK had really started to suck. But maybe I just need a different approach. I bought the VIP card with the intention of getting my own room next time. Not only that, I would get the room at RIzo instead of HK. This would accomplish several things. First, it would remove the time constraint to some degree. Thus far, no one has come knocking on my room at Rizo. Second, it would remove the girls from their element, into a basically neutral site. This would shift the balance of power in my direction. Third, I would be getting away from those greedy HK fuckers, and going over to Rizo, where they are basically totally clueless about running a business (which is why it smells so bad in Tropical) but not as greedy. And yes, people, I know they are run by the same group.
My spidey-sense was starting to kick in at this point as well. My next two sessions would be home runs, as I will talk about in the next part. Need to sleep for now.
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02-20-24 11:32 #19042
Posts: 1173Originally Posted by StRobert [View Original Post]
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02-20-24 07:06 #19041
Posts: 766Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce [View Original Post]
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02-20-24 04:39 #19040
Posts: 229Originally Posted by ABAJoeSmith123 [View Original Post]
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02-20-24 02:44 #19039
Posts: 264Wtf
Originally Posted by Zenduka1 [View Original Post]
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02-19-24 22:09 #19038
Posts: 229Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone [View Original Post]
I noticed girls who can speak English well are a bit aggressive, a bit demanding and think they are better for it. Where in reality speaking in English with the girls turn me off. In Spanish for some reason I fall in that sexual mojo. I usually decline to speak in English with the girls or anyone else unless I am chatting with other mongers.
Not discussing pricing while in the club is an invitation to disaster.
Throwing money at the girls doesn't buy you the best service. Not at all. She would take your money but what buys you the best service is where she is feeling wise at the moment of interaction and whether a good sentiment continues in the room until the end. There is a number of things that affect this which some are under the monger's control and others have nothing to do with one.
I put a list below that affect a good session. Please do not read if too tedious but I decided to list it out. With experience one can identify general positivity and negativity in just a minute or two. That is what I do and the frequent bad sessions I used to get before 5 years ago now became extremely rare. Sorry to disagree with those who believe money talks and you pay and get served. Not true. There is a difference between screwing a pretty but senseless and irritated manikin vs warm, wet, turned on human female.
Here are some things to note.
- Does she like your appearance, physically.
- Does your level of cleanliness affect her (positive or negative) do you have bad body odor, bad smelling breath, dirty clothing and shoes, etc.
- Are you relaxed or uptight, are you nervous or confident, are you playful or intense, are you too horny. Do you grope her too much.
- Are you too drunk.
- Did she see you chatting with other girls and those girls were smiling when they walk away from you.
- Do you address her friends too or ignore them.
- Do you pay her the standard or just a bit above the standard (or promise her propina based on her service) or do you come off too stingy (elbow rub).
- Did she take you as fool (or wannabe imposter) spraying money buying over the top priced drinks in the club.
- Are you a regular and do you have a good reputation.
- In the room does she like how you do her, can you follow her body language and adjust (without asking).
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Here is a list to note things out of a monger's control.
Is she having a bad day?
In the moment, is she mad, depressed or content and lively due to something that took place in her life.
Is she sick, physically hurt, (like an ill fitting shoes causing her pain in her feet, etc.).
Is she having an issue with management.
Is she generally an open person or closed.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
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02-19-24 20:10 #19037
Posts: 592Originally Posted by HKMonger [View Original Post]
However, I do think you make several assumptions about the chicas which aren't necessarily true. "Amateurs always better than pros", the things against girls with glasses or who speak English too well because it shows they've been there too long, etc. At least in my experience, one of my regular chicas who speaks English very well has been there for a long time but the other two are relatively new and told me they speak and write English because of their education (both have college degrees and learned English over the years through their schooling). To each his own as far as preferences, though again it did seem (IMO) that some of your preferences were predicated on bad assumptions.
Also re: your last point, I think it's just wiser to always negotiate the price up front prior to arriba. I think you will eventually run into a problem if you're not agreeing to a price upfront. Same with the "you can pretty much run the table with these girls" comment, LOL. In a way reminds me of Trump's "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. " remark from back in the day. It's a foolhardy assumption IMO and you're setting yourself up for trouble if you go arriba with that attitude with the wrong chica.
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02-19-24 19:42 #19036
Posts: 144Originally Posted by TjBrazil [View Original Post]
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02-19-24 18:27 #19035
Posts: 1459Originally Posted by TjBrazil [View Original Post]
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02-19-24 08:08 #19034
Posts: 1173Originally Posted by Zenduka1 [View Original Post]
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02-18-24 23:53 #19033
Posts: 3192Originally Posted by AmericanPi [View Original Post]
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02-18-24 21:17 #19032
Posts: 1933Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven
Originally Posted by AmericanPi [View Original Post]
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02-18-24 21:01 #19031
Posts: 229I was with a slender, tall 25-year-old in my room. She reached out around 5 AM, claiming she had finished her shift and wanted to spend the morning together. A security personnel escorted her to my room, and I tipped him $5 to allow her in. After a shower, I started humping her BB with her squelching panocha in a bliss.
Suddenly, she made a gurgling sound, pushed me away, and stumbled towards the bathroom. The intensity of her vomiting was unmistakable. I gave her a glass of water and a damp towel for wipe, I cleaned up some vomit on the bathroom floor, told her to sit up, placing a cold wet towel on her forehead. Unfortunately, she experienced another round of intense vomiting and even had a minor seizure, with her hands trembling.
Concerned, I hastily dressed her, and as I called the lobby for assistance, a swarm of about 10 individuals, some from Rizo and others from HK, gathered at my door. Initially, it seemed like they were ready to pounce on me, but tensions eased when they were informed (unknown to me) that she had been extremely intoxicated when escorted to my room by the security personnel earlier and also when she told them she was asthmatic and did not have her inhaler.
I placed my spare pair of footies on her bare feet, placed her shoes in a plastic bag, dropped her $100 to her purse, all while under the watchful eyes of all that pile of security. I was genuinely concerned as they carried her and her things away into a Taxi to transport her to a hospital.
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02-18-24 19:16 #19030
Posts: 229Originally Posted by TerOnlyOnce [View Original Post]