Medellin Reports

[Captain Solo]

Mexico City has a new international airport, NLU, with the old MEX, along with the very busy Cancun Int, are very good gateways for cheap nonstop flights to Central and South America cities:

Multi-city trip Economy $587.

Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 3 HR 25 min TIJ–NLU Nonstop.

Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 2 HR 15 min NLU–CUN Nonstop.

Thu, Apr 4 Wingo 3 HR 8 min CUN–MDE Nonstop.

Fri, Apr 12 Avianca 6 HR 25 min MDE–MEX 1 stop 1 HR 25 min SJO.

Fri, Apr 12 VivaAerobus 3 HR 50 min MEX–TIJ Nonstop.

[John Gault]

When I first started mongering it was in Rio and all these tips and tricks were not needed. The only advice was to show up with money. I used to have a smile on my face all night sleeping sandwiched between two chicks. Now it seems like the juice isn't even worth the squeeze anymore (at least in Medellin). Something that used to be so easy has turned into rocket science and could blow up in your face (or even send you to the next life) at any moment. Pussy is not worth all that risk.

Of topic It is a pain in the butt to buy ammo in NJ. I was in Florida and went to buy ammo. I asked the man what I need to make the purchase? He said " do you have money? ".

[Stl24]

Excellent tips / suggestions. Are there some hotels you could recommend?

The Derillous has some excellent suggestions.

Let me add a few comments, based on what works for me. I will preface it by saying I am in my 7th decade, fit, and I try to present a good appearance. My Spanish is basic, but adequate to communicate. I don't have much game, but do have a little personality. I pull a girl from Lleras every night I am in Medellin, and have never had problems. I stay in a mid-priced hotel.....

[Orgasmico]

Was in El Centro yesterday. Behind the museum was trash. Did see a few nice young Venezolanas around the statues. Guy sat next to me and started smoking some weed. I haven't smoked since I was a teen, but it smelled pretty good. Got handed a couple of casa cards so I decided to do a casa run. Nothing blew me away but I grabbed something since I was there and since I don't go to El Centro often.

[MoonShot]

When I first started mongering it was in Rio and all these tips and tricks were not needed. The only advice was to show up with money. I used to have a smile on my face all night sleeping sandwiched between two chicks. Now it seems like the juice isn't even worth the squeeze anymore (at least in Medellin). Something that used to be so easy has turned into rocket science and could blow up in your face (or even send you to the next life) at any moment. Pussy is not worth all that risk.

It is true that Medellin has more risks than a number of other countries to visit. If you want to visit a country without any risks of being drugged and robbed or killed, Medellin is not the city for you. Thailand, Mexico, Philippines and Costa Rica along with a number of other countries are much safer. If you aren't willing to take extra precautions in order to visit a country, you should not go to Colombia. There are some guys who seem to have the attitude of "guys, convince me to go to Colombia" and I really don't care whether guys go to Colombia or not. Go if you want. Don't go if you don't want. If you are hesitate due to safety concerns, you should go elsewhere because those safety concerns are real and you can read all the articles about gringos being robbed or killed. It's real and it's something you have to deal with if you go to Colombia.

You have to balance risks versus rewards. Now I have been to Medellin a number of times and I will continue to visit Medellin so I have done the analysis for myself and I think the rewards are worth the risks but for others, it may not be.

[ChuchoLoco]

It shouldn't impact the how you pick up the girls. If you're talking to working girls (which most are, as others have also mentioned), you don't need to know any spanish. They will do the work on making the date the happen. So while it doesn't impact getting the date, the issue will be that you will be severely limited in negotiating and you can't really pre-validate how good the session might be, since you won't be able to butter her up. Just learn the words for the things you like (besos con lengua = french kissing) and ask them. It doesn't even have to be grammatically sound. Most likely you're convo is going to sound like this.

"Hola. Tu hermosa. Cuanto por cita. Besos con lengua?. ".

Keep it simple and understand that your negotiation is limited. You're not going to be able to charm her or give her any special reason to see her so accept it. If you really want to negotiate, learn some compliments and tell her you're a gentle guy or something, I guess.

There are a sizable portion of girls who know "decent" English, but you'll have to search and be willing to cut lose a hottie who doesn't know enough. I've found that some of the older women are more versed in english so if you're not trying to snatch up a 19 year old, you might have some better luck with the girls who are mid to late 20's or older.

When you ask how much and you get her answer, make sure to clarify dollars or pesos. For example if she says 200 make sure to clarify dollars vs mil pesos. Some use the trick of having you think she quoted mil pesos but then she will say she meant and wants $200 US. The difference is $150 and it can get ugly.

[Gabacho]

Had this girl come out for drinks last night, we're hanging out, bar hopping, then out of nowhere she says she wants $300 for hanging out with me, I tried to get her to leave, she refused, then followed me home and stayed until 4 am waiting for me to give her some money, gave her a little money to get rid of her but looks like they put a fraud block on the transfer. So now she's texting me from different numbers saying I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.

I been telling you guys fuxk all the bullshit, fuck going out for drinks, fuck going out to eat just take them to a short time fuck hotel and tell them "Quitate la ropa" and "abre las piernas" but no you guys don't listen to me and now look what happened LOL?

My advise to you would have never been to let her follow you home. You should have ordered a picap or didi moto and hopped on the moto and left her in the dust. Then block her on WhatsApp and any other way she had to contact you but you already fucked that up to LOL.

Maybe move into a different Airbnb before she comes back and also block her or honestly you should have already blocked her by now and do not have any more contact with her.

In normal conditions I would say go to the police but honestly they will just laugh at you and not do anything and if she lies to them and says you fucked her and didn't pay her that will make the situation worse.

So move to different Airbnb fast and block her.

Any other questions señor?

[Casa No Va]

Had this girl come out for drinks last night, we're hanging out, bar hopping, then out of nowhere she says she wants $300 for hanging out with me, I tried to get her to leave, she refused, then followed me home and stayed until 4 am waiting for me to give her some money, gave her a little money to get rid of her but looks like they put a fraud block on the transfer. So now she's texting me from different numbers saying I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.

Not sure what you mean how she followed you home. Like on her own street bike or something. At some.

Point you could have slammed the door on her. Like the taxi home or the security at the front of your hotel or building or the door of your Room. Did you guys do the deed because not sure what you guys talked about until 4 am, that you owed her 300 for hanging out. Why keep hanging out with her then?

[Mr Enternational]

That's not really possible to do in advance. You need to take precautions on your side and not make yourself a target since criminals go after victims (people who have made themselves look ripe for ripping off). The biggest way to avoid this is by not being wasted or high. Avoid threesomes (sessions can also be pretty meh anyway, as others have mentioned) since it's harder to keep an eye on two gals.

When I first started mongering it was in Rio and all these tips and tricks were not needed. The only advice was to show up with money. I used to have a smile on my face all night sleeping sandwiched between two chicks. Now it seems like the juice isn't even worth the squeeze anymore (at least in Medellin). Something that used to be so easy has turned into rocket science and could blow up in your face (or even send you to the next life) at any moment. Pussy is not worth all that risk.

[IntBond0]

Had this girl come out for drinks last night, we're hanging out, bar hopping, then out of nowhere she says she wants $300 for hanging out with me, I tried to get her to leave, she refused, then followed me home and stayed until 4 am waiting for me to give her some money, gave her a little money to get rid of her but looks like they put a fraud block on the transfer. So now she's texting me from different numbers saying I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.

[Exoticspirit]

The ones that are not high, that are not strung out, that are not looking around. Those are the more dangerous. Likely a significant number of the girls in Lleras have the drugs in their purse. It is the ones that are making a business of it that will be the dangerous ones. They are not the ones on drugs, or with pimps, or looking rough. The opposite.

Are there any significant differences in terms of how dangerous they potentially are if they are the ones alone or in groups or pairs?

[Zeos1]

I disagree with that. Chat her up. Is she strung out? Does she keep looking around (for her pimp, etc) or does she make eye contact? Look at her body and clothes. Does she take care of herself? Invite her for a drink. Sizing up hookers is just like sizing up anyone you intend to employ.

But yeah, then do all the other stuff Zeos talks about. I just think you can reduce risk somewhat via the interviewing process. That's worked for me so far.

The ones that are not high, that are not strung out, that are not looking around. Those are the more dangerous. Likely a significant number of the girls in Lleras have the drugs in their purse. It is the ones that are making a business of it that will be the dangerous ones. They are not the ones on drugs, or with pimps, or looking rough. The opposite.

The small, and perhaps larger, groups of criminals have standing offers to virtually all of the girls. Here's the drug. If you have an opportunity use it, then call us, open the door, and we'll take care of the rest. Of course the opportunity is not always there. But the strung out ones won't be the ones you have to worry about, its the ones that may seem almost too good to be true.

Of course you need to avoid the ones that are obviously high or not taking care of themselves or looking around, or not making eye contact. All of those things. But the guys I have known that have been drugged it was the high end chicas that did it. The ones they never expected it from. The ones that did it on the 3rd or 4th date. Anyway.

[Eclectic]

The Derillous has some excellent suggestions.

Let me add a few comments, based on what works for me. I will preface it by saying I am in my 7th decade, fit, and I try to present a good appearance. My Spanish is basic, but adequate to communicate. I don't have much game, but do have a little personality. I pull a girl from Lleras every night I am in Medellin, and have never had problems. I stay in a mid-priced hotel with a front desk that requires identification. I treat every girl with respect. And try to create a boyfriend / girlfriend experience. I pay about $40-$55. I always use a condom.

This is my routine:

1. I put away anything in my room that could easily be taken. Most money is kept in the safe.

2. I try to dress appropriately. Usually nice jeans and a collared shirt.

3. I only take about $100. And that is in COP.

4. I arrive at Lleras around 9:30 or 10:00 pm This is relatively early.

5. I wander through the park and Calle 10. I like to get a sense of the possibilities for the evening before making a decision. I make eye contact and smile at the girls I am interested in. I may even say Hello, (hola), tell them my name (soy <name ), and ask them their name (como te llamas?

6. I may spend 5 minutes or two hours looking. It all depends. But I like to get out of the park by 11:30 at the latest. I sense there is more potential for problems late at night.

7. I avoid girls who seem to know all the locals in the park, as I assume they are full time hookers. I also stay away from girls hanging out with Columbian guys (who I assume to be either boyfriends or pimps). I stay away from girls who are too heavily made up or too obviously hookers. I care less about what the girl looks like wearing provocative clothes, and more about how she looks au natural. I prefer the girl next door look.

7. When I have made my initial decision, I approach the girl. Always with a smile and a cheerful Spanish greeting. I try to engage in some small talk in basic Spanish. I try to sense the girl's friendliness and personality. (I am not interested in any drama or crude comments.) The discussion either confirms my decision or sends me on my way.

8. If the talk is positive, I ask if the girl would be willing to visit my casa. Then, assuming an eager "si", I suggest I would expect to give her a gift. Obviously, this gets into a quick negotiation of price. If it is early and I am enjoying the interaction, I may buy the girl a drink.

9. Then, it is back to my hotel. I always insist on taking a picture of the girl before she gets to my room, and I will not pay in advance.

This process has worked well for me.

[TheDerilious]

Great tips! How are guys screening out potential trouble makers, ie. , those who will likely drug / rob you? I was under the impression from past several posts on Lleras that it's best not to pull from there.

That's not really possible to do in advance. You need to take precautions on your side and not make yourself a target since criminals go after victims (people who have made themselves look ripe for ripping off). The biggest way to avoid this is by not being wasted or high. Avoid threesomes (sessions can also be pretty meh anyway, as others have mentioned) since it's harder to keep an eye on two gals.

I guess a few things that "could" be signs of a potential criminal are the following. The girl solicits you to buy or take drugs with her. She seems overly interested about inviting a friend to join. She insists on taking the lead of getting a cab or arranging transport if needed. She is giving out some insane discounts for service.

Overall, it's just important to remain in control of yourself. Even after the deed is done, you should probably avoid letting her wander your place without direct supervision. I've always found that no girl got mad at me for being wary. Most of them are just honest people trying to make some cash so they understand why you don't want them poking around your place or pushing drugs for you to snort. Some of the girls do have Tusi or weed that they don't mind sharing, but at least make sure they take a hit first and don't try to one up them by taking massive hits.

[TheDerilious]

Thanks for the tips. One question I have. How much would my lack of speaking pretty much any Spanish impact your tips? I'm not expecting fluent English at all but do they speak enough to discuss prices / expectations?

It shouldn't impact the how you pick up the girls. If you're talking to working girls (which most are, as others have also mentioned), you don't need to know any spanish. They will do the work on making the date the happen. So while it doesn't impact getting the date, the issue will be that you will be severely limited in negotiating and you can't really pre-validate how good the session might be, since you won't be able to butter her up. Just learn the words for the things you like (besos con lengua = french kissing) and ask them. It doesn't even have to be grammatically sound. Most likely you're convo is going to sound like this.

"Hola. Tu hermosa. Cuanto por cita. Besos con lengua?. ".

Keep it simple and understand that your negotiation is limited. You're not going to be able to charm her or give her any special reason to see her so accept it. If you really want to negotiate, learn some compliments and tell her you're a gentle guy or something, I guess.

There are a sizable portion of girls who know "decent" English, but you'll have to search and be willing to cut lose a hottie who doesn't know enough. I've found that some of the older women are more versed in english so if you're not trying to snatch up a 19 year old, you might have some better luck with the girls who are mid to late 20's or older.