Thread: Stupid Shit in Kyiv
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05-06-24 15:32 #2535
Posts: 388If you think foreign intelligence isn't involved in decapitating the black sea fleet you are badly mistaken. We won't know the whole story until 20-30 years after it's all over. A la hardy boys, air America, wind talkers, etc. Unfortunately I won't be around then. Give me an example of how the intelligence services are "causing problems. " No generalities, a real problem.
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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05-06-24 00:34 #2534
Posts: 2828Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
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05-05-24 22:42 #2533
Posts: 269Some people are living in their fantasies
Ukraine just can't win this war. It's running out of manpower. Just look at Ukraine's demographic chart. There are pretty much no military age men left. The US can throw as much billions of military aid they want, but the Abrahams and F16's aren't going to drive themselves. It will just prolong the pain and suffering before the inevitable defeat.
Ukraine should have taken the deal in 2022.
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05-05-24 19:21 #2532
Posts: 388They haven't even started
It takes 2-3 years for intelligence services to do their own various assessments before they start funneling actionable tactical support. Up to now it's only been strategic. Give it another 6-12 months.
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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05-05-24 18:57 #2531
Posts: 388Really?
So his stated goal of removing nazis and being laughed out of bucha in the first few months were a dream of mine? I'm not pro anything, I'm looking at facts and correcting ignorance. How are removing the "nazi regime" and proping up a pro soviet government in Kabul different?
I can't wait to hear this answer.
He's only interested in what he's interested in now because his army turned out to be a paper tiger and he can only hope to hold these areas as he hasn't a prayer of taking the rest.
One of the things that came with my erectile dysfunction is age, experience, and living though a significant amount of history. Pick almost any conflict in history that ended in a war of attrition and I'll show you an aggressor that lost. If you don't understand this I can't help you.
Originally Posted by BloodRed [View Original Post]
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05-05-24 16:37 #2530
Posts: 722Originally Posted by BloodRed [View Original Post]
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05-05-24 13:32 #2529
Posts: 1380Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
The collective west is interested in PUNISHING and hurting Russia, NOT in helping Ukraine win. Hell, Lloyd Austin said this in 2022, that America wanted to weaken Russia, he said nothing about Ukraine winning.
This is about feeding the military industrial complex using Ukrainians as cannon fodder. The western leaders have said so many times, shamelessly, that is is Ukrainians dying, not their people. These people are sick.
Ukraine CANNOT win this. They are out of manpower. The collective west doesn't have the weapons in the quantity that Ukraine needs, nor can they produce them in the amount that Ukraine needs. The longer this goes on, the more territory Ukraine will lose, and another generation of men will die for nothing. For Gods sake, talk peace for once.
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05-05-24 13:28 #2528
Posts: 1380Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
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05-05-24 04:09 #2527
Posts: 1351The current occupant of the Ukrainian presidency has been just added to the Wanted list by the Interior Ministry of the RF together with the former occupant and a bunch of others. Just a reminder, the present term of the presidency and all Rada are going to expire on May 21,2024 absent the elections.
It has been reported, true to the fact, that clowns and pole sportsmen (your striptease dancers) can dodge the newly Ukrainian draft as essential workers.
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05-04-24 18:14 #2526
Posts: 2828Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
Any Guerrilla warfare will result in more death and destruction. Russia will not pay games with Ukraine, they will just take more lives and territory.
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05-04-24 15:15 #2525
Posts: 388I don't get it
Nobody is going to change anyone's mind but are you guys not aware of history? Our Vietnam, their Afghanistan. Far superior forces lost a war of attrition to a much less powerful force over the course of a decade. Russia went in to support a soviet friendly government that was largely unpopular, the only difference between then and now is the the Ukrainians already threw out the Russian friendly government. Guess what happens in about 10 years from now? Putin will be dead, do you think the next guy wants this headache, that he didn't start? I believe putin was driving a cab around the time the afghan war was winding down so maybe he didn't have the time to grab a newspaper and learn something. Then again the info was all state controlled so maybe I can't blame him for being ignorant here.
I generally agree that it will be very difficult if not impossible for Ukraine to get any of the seized land back and I doubt very seriously that it can be done militarily but it is absolutely possible politically. As Ukrainian special forces establish guerilla tactics on land, the Russians will get tired of dying over time. They have already, very successfully, rendered the black sea fleet useless. Why couldn't they do the same on the ground? When you're fighting for your very existence you can do a lot more than the side that has no idea why it's there. The CIA thrives in proping up local governments in situations like this. The Ukrainians will get all they need to make Russians in the occupied territory miserable for as long as they want.
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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05-03-24 23:01 #2524
Posts: 2828Originally Posted by BloodRed [View Original Post]
Ukraine was played by the west and the Euros, what a waste.
Ukraine never had a chance, they could have gotten decent deal at the beginning, but they choose to push there luck. Now they will end up with almost nothing, and if they do not surrender quickly the will lose everything. Those that are crazy enough to believe Ukraine will be able to continue with a guerrilla war are in.
In complete denial.
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05-03-24 18:46 #2523
Posts: 1380Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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05-03-24 07:23 #2522
Posts: 2028Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
Also, I must say I'm a little more optimistic. I don't think Putin has a chance to make such substantial territorial gains that the gorilla war will become the only option for resistance. He's bound to run out of time and man power despite the propaganda and poker face.
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05-03-24 07:22 #2521
Posts: 1380Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]