Jakarta

[JSmithJ88]

I know the Royal beside Grand LA used to have VIP girls for 600, 800, and 1+ million. They started after 8 or 9 pm. Only been with 600 and 800k girls and both were exceptional in the room. No wonder I never saw them last trip I guess I'll check out Royal VIP this week. But yes regular pricing at all the old KI bars should be <400k.

Hmmm, I never noticed that before.

When did you last see VIP girls at royal or LA?

How do you differentiate between a VIP or a regular chick?

[Banana Boi]

You went to new royal in KOTA?
Fellow BM can correct me, the prices in KOTA should only be 400 k for ST and 800 K for 3 hours at your hotel.

I know the Royal beside Grand LA used to have VIP girls for 600, 800, and 1+ million. They started after 8 or 9 pm. Only been with 600 and 800k girls and both were exceptional in the room. No wonder I never saw them last trip I guess I'll check out Royal VIP this week. But yes regular pricing at all the old KI bars should be <400k.

[Banana Boi]

Finally, navigating the mamasans is tricky at first. They see foreigners as an easy mark and will continue to show you ladies until you choose one so they get their commission.

Definitely a bit of adjustment from most places we go to get girls. My first time at Classic my friend who was showing me around got mad at me because I was so abrasive to the mamasans. I don't take people telling me what to do well. My friend told me to leave cause he didn't want his reputation damaged. On Day 2 I knew what to expect and they knew I wasn't their easy mark. Things went well. Now, I really enjoy the Classic mamasans to the point I give most of them a hard time in a charming way and they laugh and come back for more abuse. They are very helpful. The girls see this stuff too so when I go to a room with a girl they know I'm a regular and I won't get crappy service. Travel on the other hand is just a lost cause. I'll check it out again on the weekend and see if I have better luck at Travel.

[FriendlyPlanet]

Guys, I know should have inquired in hotel section but taking the liberty to post it here. I am arriving in Jakarta on 2nd June and am booked for 6 nights in Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. My colleague is booked in Pullman, Thamrin and he is requesting me to do the same but I travel for both work and pleasure; he only for work meetings. I have been informed not to stay in Holiday Inn GM as metro construction work is going on and travel to that part would be a big hassle. Can any Gentleman confirm the same? This is my first trip to that country hence this noob question. Many thanks in advance.

Regards.

There is construction going on around Holiday inn Gajah Mada, but it's typical Jakarta clutter. Doesn't bother a monger visit.

However, if you are going to Jakarta on business, staying in Kota is going to raise eyebrows with your local hosts, not to mention possibly getting back to your head office. You should do what I sometimes do on work trips. Book one room at the Pullman for the work part of the trip, then move to the Holiday Inn for the weekend / mongering part. If you want to see girls during the work part of the trip, then simply book two hotel rooms. The additional $40/ night for the Kota hotel is well worth it to avoid the risk of your hobby if and work worlds colliding.

If anyone asks why you are moving to Kota for the weekend, the answer is to explore Chinatown and the old port area. Still may be met with some scepticism, but that's usually my cover story. And the markets and Chinese stores around the Holiday inn Gajah Mada are interesting and worth a visit.

[CodeName47]

Guys, I know should have inquired in hotel section but taking the liberty to post it here. I am arriving in Jakarta on 2nd June and am booked for 6 nights in Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. My colleague is booked in Pullman, Thamrin and he is requesting me to do the same but I travel for both work and pleasure; he only for work meetings. I have been informed not to stay in Holiday Inn GM as metro construction work is going on and travel to that part would be a big hassle. Can any Gentleman confirm the same? This is my first trip to that country hence this noob question. Many thanks in advance.

Regards.

Not sure about the holiday inn. But I stayed in grand mercure and Santika around hayam wuruk that's not too far to travel and is classic. There is a separate thread for hotels. Please have a look you may get better understanding just by reading the forum if you are looking for altternatives.

[CodeName47]

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.
I would come back to Jakarta again for mongering. Great place. Loved it.

Thanks for the forum member for great information. Sorry for the typos.

Enjoy!!

That's the spirit. You will get better in a few trips. For a first trip that is a great outcome.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Thanks for your report!

I am certainly not the tip police. You can tip what you want. But I am not following your tipping logic at all. Tip 350 K for a negotiated BBBJ and DFK for 20 minutes versus 200 K for a lady that fucked your brains out all night, did everything you wanted and you had for 3 rounds? Seems like you overpaid for standard service and underpaid for good service. But as they say. Up to you.

BBBJs should be standard fare and included. (Maybe not for threesomes. which I never do. The ladies may not want to suck on the other's spit.) But any solo room with an Indonesian lady should be BBBJ. You shouldn't have to negotiate for it. DFK is harder to come by. But that is where some soft people skills and overall chemistry can come in handy. I think by asking for a BBBJ, you show your hand as a newbie that doesn't know the standard service.

Finally, navigating the mamasans is tricky at first. They see foreigners as an easy mark and will continue to show you ladies until you choose one so they get their commission.

I was going to mention that as well. zero reason to tip as much or more than what you paid for the service. Word will get around when some girl brags about getting a big tip then eventually they'll start expecting it.

[Zippos]

Great report Krishnan and I'm glad you enjoyed your time there despite some hiccups along the way. Definitely a learning curve for you and now that you have experienced that, next time will be much more smoother. We all experienced that to a degree.

What I admire about you is, you took advantage of the knowledge that has been contributed by members and you utilized that. Way to go. This should be an example for newbies planning on mongering In Jakarta.

Just like others mentioned, you are in charge in places like classic, travel and Bfashion. Those mami has a nose for spotting newbie's and they play their game on them. Don't let that get you but instead sit down with your beer and firm but politely say you will take the girl when you are ready.

For threesome, pick one girl and let the girl chose second girl. Not all girls enjoy being naked in front of another girl. For tipping, if you are not happy with the service, you shouldn't tip, period. There is no shame there. I tipped a girl 5 k and when she looked at me shockingly, I simply smiled and said to her "this is what you deserve for your shitty service". Another girl, who provided horrible service, I just walked away and told Mami about how poor service she gave and made it very clear to not to recommend any girls to me like her.

Hold your ground and take your time and most importantly enjoy your time.

If you liked Emporium, you will like king cross too. Give it a a try next time you are in Jakarta.

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

Day 1.


Enjoy!!

[DevSagar]

Thanks for your response. Mine is a refundable booking; at 50 USD with breakfast for 2 persons. I liked their huge room set up; hence chose this property. I'll take a call soon.

Regards.

When I was there, a year ago now, the normally multi lane street was majorly disrupted with construction down the centre. It added some congestion due to there being less lanes each way, but overall only a couple of minutes extra travel time. And I think the hotel is offering good prices becuase of that, which I found out weighed the negative.

[NoGermaphobe]

Thanks for your report!

I am certainly not the tip police. You can tip what you want. But I am not following your tipping logic at all. Tip 350 K for a negotiated BBBJ and DFK for 20 minutes versus 200 K for a lady that fucked your brains out all night, did everything you wanted and you had for 3 rounds? Seems like you overpaid for standard service and underpaid for good service. But as they say. Up to you.

BBBJs should be standard fare and included. (Maybe not for threesomes. which I never do. The ladies may not want to suck on the other's spit.) But any solo room with an Indonesian lady should be BBBJ. You shouldn't have to negotiate for it. DFK is harder to come by. But that is where some soft people skills and overall chemistry can come in handy. I think by asking for a BBBJ, you show your hand as a newbie that doesn't know the standard service.

Finally, navigating the mamasans is tricky at first. They see foreigners as an easy mark and will continue to show you ladies until you choose one so they get their commission. She is financially incentivized for you to take a lady and she wants to get paid. Stand your ground if you are not ready or don't like the selection. You are the boss. Not the mama. Sometimes you have to be quite firm and direct with them. Don't be afraid of this if they keep pestering you. Learning some Indonesian, even if the grammar is not 100% accurate is helpful here.

Just a simple "tidak mau cewek sekarang" would suffice. "Don't want lady now."

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

In the room I told her exactly what I wanted DFK and BBBJ. She quoted me 500 k tip, I negotiated down to 300 k and after taking shower we went to bed. The service was really great, she did everything I asked and took things slow. I was finished in less than 20 minutes. I tipped her 350 k as I was really happy.

I negotiated it to 3 M and I immediately took here to my hotel. Man, she was all over me in the cab and lift. It was one hell of a night. I didn't have to ask for anything, it included everything except BBFS. She was feisty in bed. We went to 2 rounds and 1 round in the morning. She left around 10 am. I gave have 200 k tip. I then slept.

[NoGermaphobe]

On the other side of the KI horseshoe there are several "pricier" places. Mega Ayu has ladies that start at 800 K. Across from Mega is Hotel Royal VIP. I believe that is the place the poster is referring to. Not Royal next to LA Bar. There is also V Four in the front of the horseshoe that has tiered pricing from 400 K, 800 K and 900 K. The picture of the place he is talking about is below. Opened last year around September I think.

LOL, nobody forced you to do anything. You just allowed yourself to be bullied.
You went to new royal in KOTA?
Fellow BM can correct me, the prices in KOTA should only be 400 k for ST and 800 K for 3 hours at your hotel.

[JSmithJ88]

I choose 2 of them and she FORCED me to go to the room.....
I gave 50 k each but FORCED me to gave 50 k more.....
if you come back to lobby then they will again FORCE you go with the girl....

So, I left and went to new royal bar.
The price was 900 k and 1. 1 M....
Then indri came and offered me 4 M if I want to take the girl with me for whole night. I don't know what took me, I really wanted to have a night with her, I negotiated it to 3 M
She left around 10 am. I gave have 200 k tip. I then slept.
Enjoy!!

LOL, nobody forced you to do anything. You just allowed yourself to be bullied.
You went to new royal in KOTA?
Fellow BM can correct me, the prices in KOTA should only be 400 k for ST and 800 K for 3 hours at your hotel.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

Day 1.

My flight landed around 1 pm. I took the cab to my hotel, Holiday inn Gajah Mada. There is some construction work going just outside the hotel but the traffic seems ok. I took the shower and went to classic around 7:30. Just after I entered one mama forced me to sit on the table and showed me card stating 365 k for one girl and 500 k for two girls. I never had threesome before so I thought I would try 2 girls even after bad reviews here, then she immediately called around 15 girls. I choose 2 of them and she forced me to go to the room. I asked her to wait for some time so she left but came back after every 2 minute. We then went to room, then service was rushed then didn't agree to DFK and BBBJ. Even I have to wash and change condom when switching girls. Overall my experience was not good, wouldn't recommend anyone to take 2 girls in classic. After the deed girls asked me for tip initially I gave 50 k each but forced me to gave 50 k more. I then came back to lobby and as I walked I was not able to find any other interesting girls. This girls are classic were old, so I left. I had dinner downstairs, the food was great. I then went to travel. In travel the way things work is exactly same as classic. But the prices were 375 k for one girl and 510 k for two girls. I specifically asked mama not to rush me, she then asked me my preferences and called around 6 girls which were exactly what I wanted, young, slim body and big boobs.

Excellent report, thanks for sharing. Glad you had a good time.

[FutureGuy]

Never read any post yet that mentioned that about half the street mamasans will follow and wait outside the guys hotel waiting for their money. But I noticed right away and posted the info because that is important info to know. I told the girls 3 positions. 1 girl did 1 position only because she said her legs hurt doing doggie style. 2 girls only did 2 positions. You can only negotiate so much before someone walks away. Example is when girls start listing all the things she will not do and you walk away. The opposite is when you list all the things you want and she walks away. You can not just say BJ. You have to say uncovered BJ, 10 minutes not 2, entire shaft not just the head. You can have it all on typed paper and have her sign it. You know what that means once you are in the bedroom? Not a damn thing! What does mean something is her facial expressions and her responses to your demands. That is a better prediction of what your bedroom experience will be.

The 100,000 IDR for transport is stupid money. That is halfway to the airport and back on a motorcycle. That was not a miscommunication. That was her trying to be a thief.

You describe situations where on the street and in Classic / Travel the girls reacted negatively to you and where not cooperating. You even suggest that the police came after you. Which is something unheard off in any previous reports on the Jakarta forum.

Therefore we have to figure out how your interactions with the girls differed from people like me. Probably it's the way how you handle the interaction. E. G. Maybe you come off as too commanding / stand-offish (that's just an example, maybe you're not)? I'm not deriding you, so no need to be agitated. Try to reflect about it. If nobody in previous reports had that kind of bad experiences, it may hint at that you could improve you approach. Maybe have a chat with the girls instead of going straight to action etc. Etc.

100 k is obviously scamy, yes. Therefore lesson learned: always specify any money involved including transportation at the outset. As for bareback at Travel / Classic: usually 200 k is doing the trick for me. Remember that only a small share of the 365/375 is going to the girl (about 125).

[Expat American]

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

What a great first post! Not asking for easy to find info. Not commenting on others report. Just a detailed account of his experiences. Bravo. Newbies please read and learn.

Just one comment on Classic and being rushed. You can take your time in the bar, get a drink and sit with a girl. If the girl the mama is pushing doesn't do that, send her back and choose another. You have to realize that you are in charge and there are more girls than customers at any given time. Just be firm and you will get the service and experience you want. Same goes in the room. If you politely and firmly set the tone of what you expect, and offer a reasonable tip (not as high as you paid, although you did okay as a first timer) you will most often get what you want.

Anyway, great report and glad you enjoyed!