Fortaleza

[Latina Crazy]

Hello Mongers!

I have just read a breaking news in an Italian website about a police crackdown both in Fortaleza and Italy. The crackdown is connected to the sex tourism in Brazil.

It seems that some Italian policemen, in collaboration with the Policia Federal of Brazil, travelled in Fortaleza in November under coverage, acting as normal sex tourists.

The policemen attended all the bar/sex scene in Fortaleza for some weeks, taking pictures and videorecording the people with the garotas.

It seesms that they also discovered a network of prostitution involving minors.

The Italian and the Brazilian police arrested today some people connected with the sex-tourism business (also some travel agents) both in Brazil and Italy. They also arrested some tourists accusing them of having looked for sex with minors.

The crackdown is still in action.

As the Italian media always look for scandalistic news of this type also to keep away the public opinion from the discussion on the actual political and economic problems of the country and as many policemen and procurators know that they can easily gain glory, media exposure and career advantages with this type of operations, I would expect a big noise on the media about this story.

The risk, for some mongers, is to be involved in the police operation and maybe face a judgement even if they were not involved with the prostitution network and never had sex with minors.

There is also another risk: to appear in TV in any pseudo-journalistic broadcast claiming to denounce the sex tourism in Brazil. For sure the videotapes recordered by the police will be passed to the media to give more visibility to this police crackdown and to give more glory to the policemen/procurators who prepared this crackdown.

I think that sex between responsible and legal aged people (for money or just for pleasure doesn't matter), is a free and personal choice, which should not interest the governments and the law enforcement. That's why I advice the people travelling for sex to be always wise and responsible, avoiding every possible involvement with minors.

If you are not sure about the age of the girl, always check her ID. Be careful that in Brazil and especially in Fortaleza there are many fakes ID, used by minors that want to enter the bar scene but are not of the legal age.

Brazil is full of beautiful girls who are in the business and are of legal age too, it doesn't worth to risk.

The Brazilian government, since Mr. Lula is the President, is now trying to give a different international image of Brazil, and it's trying to kill the idea that Brazil is a sex tourism paradise, expecially in the Nordeste, and especially in Fortaleza.

Of course, the mayor problem in Brazil is not the sex tourism: the growing violence in the country (more than 60000 homicides this year), the high corruption rate of the political and social institutions, the poverty and the inequal distribution of the revenues, the ecological disasters in Amazzonia, are all problems which are much more important than some middle-aged Americans or Europeans who arrive in the country looking for cheap sex.

We also have to notice that the sex industry targeted to the international tourists is just the smallest part of the whole sex business in the country: Brazil is full of prostitutes of all ages everywhere, and most of them are for Brazilians customers.

But this type of police operations can give the international public opinion the idea that Brazil is really changing: it's a real cheap commercial advertise for Brazil.

So I would expect other crackdowns of this type in the next months.

Of course these crackdowns will not stop the sex business: most of the girls who are involved support whole families with the earnings made with the tourists and they know that attending the bar scene is the only way to have a better life and, maybe, one day marry a wealthy American or European, the same that gaining the lottery, for a poor girl in Brazil.

So Mongers, pay attention, be always wise, and always have fun respecting the law.

[J Wadd]

Remember, those girls are models -- and benfit from makeup, lighting, air brushing, etc. A friend of a friend (he's German) claims to have dated Claudia Schiffer's sister when he lived in Germany. This guy's a crazy-rich 6'6" pro-skiing German who I've personally seen land a bunch of 8s and 9s -- so I believe it. The point is (and he always talks about it) is that the prettiest girls -- the ones who can have anyone at anytime -- consistently want what they can't have. Play a little hard-to-get and you'll get 'em every time. Boy did I get off the subject!

HH,
JW

[Elmo]

I have talked enough about the low quality of the girls in forta, but 200 R$ for one hour it really seems overpriced, in terms of the situation 1 year ago. We will wait for other reports to confirm this new data.

I was in Fortaleza for a week in mid November - I don't agree that the quality of girls was low. And anyone who pays R200 for an hour is a fool who needs to learn to negotiate. If you are looking for tall, thin, white skinned blonds, I would forget Fortaleza. But if you want a fun time, a great bar scene, inexpensive sex, and some great beaches, try Fortaleza.

The bar scene around Praia Iracema at night was a blast. Lots of girls walking the streets, and going back and forth between the various bars along Rua Dos Tabajaras, before ending up at Kapital. The women in Fortaleza tended to be short (150-165 cm; 5'-5'6" or so) and have very light brown to dark brown skin. They were mostly latina looking, with very few white skinned or black skinned/afro-brazilian garotas. The garotas also were quite young, 18-24 or so in age, but many had obviously had had a kid. I would rate the women to be about 66% in the 4-6 range, and 33% in the 7-8 range with a few 9's thrown there in as well. But with more than 300+ garotas working each night, there were more than enough beauties to meet the demand. I had no problem finding several likely candidates to pursue - some nights it may have taken 2 minutes, other nights it took 10 minutes, to spot several beauties to pursue.

I regularly picked up thin good looking 18-20 years old (in the 8 range), paying them R100-120 for the night, with the total cost depending on looks and how long they stayed. Most stayed all night - from midnight - 1 a.m. until about 9 a.m. or so, but two wanted to leave at about 5 a.m. so they to get home before their baby/kid work up. Negotiated all of this up front, and they got less money - as it is harder to do a morning quickie at 5 a.m. than at 9 a.m.

I also met up with a great looking 19 year old with dark brown skin and long black hair. She was about 155cm and 45 kg (5"1", 100 lbs). We were together from Saturday night until noon on Tuesday when I left for the airport (she did go home briefly to get different clothes). I paid her R300 total for those three nights, plus paid for her food and drinks when we ate. We spent all day Sunday at Praia Futuro, went out to dinner, etc, etc. I lost track of how many times we had sex over those days and nights. She was always eager for more, and cried when I had to leave for the airport.

I will agree that the scene in Fortaleza does not compare to the overall quality one would find in the most expensive, high-end boites/thermas of Rio and Sampa (especially if you like white skinned blonds), but there are lots of gems to be found in Fortaleza at great prices.

[Elmo]

Spent a week in Fortaleza in mid November and was very impressed - I had heard horror stories about how the scene had deteriorated there and found them to be untrue. The bars and restaurants around Praia Iracema were jumping. Lots and lots of gals going back and forth between the different bars, before ending up at Kapital late at night - at least two hundred plus chicas to choose from each night. It was great to sit on a second floor of a open air restaurant, watching the parade of garotas below, going from bar to bar, looking for targets to hit.

If you are looking for tall, thin, white skinned blondes, I would not recommend Fortaleza. Most of the women were rather short (155-170 cm - 5' to 5'6") and had skin ranging from very light brown to dark brown and hair in various shades of brown and black as well (a few peroxide blonds too). I would rate the gals at about 66% in the 4-6 range and 33% in the 7-8 range with a couple of 9's in there as well. However, with 200+ garotas each night, there were more than enough gems to go around. I found that, some nights, it would only take me 5 minutes to spot several garotas worth pursuing, and on other nights, it would take me 30 minutes. Most were the 18-24 age range.

Most spent the night, but a few left at about 5 a.m. to get home before their kid(s) woke up. Depending on when they left, and how good looking they were (whether they were 7s, 8s, or 9s) I would pay them between R120-200. GFE was had with all of them.

Having done several diffent garotas, I finished up my last couple of days with a gorgeous little medium brown skinned 19 yr old that I met at Kapital - she was about 158 cm, 45 kg (5'2", 100lbs) and loved sex. Paid her R400 total from midnight on Saturday night until noon on Monday. Lost count of how many times we had sex over those two days and nights, GFE the whole way. Spent Sunday afternoon with her at Praia Futuro. She cried when she left on Monday, as I was packing my bags for the airport.

Praia Futuro on the west side of town was great to hang out at during the day. Lots of great bach front bars to hang out at. I recognized lots of garotas de programa hanging out there as well. I also recognized many garotas during the day shopping on Av Monseiur Tabosa, the main shopping street about four blocks in from Praia Iracema.

It is a different scene than Rio or Sao Paulo, but a fun one none the less.

[Eros74]

February in Forta or in Pattaya? Any suggestion? I was in Recife and many times in Russia, like the ocean and the beach life of Brazil, but I like best russian women, so dear members some suggestion will be greatly accepted!

Regards

[Montecristo]

I have talked enough about the low quality of the girls in forta, but 200 R$ for one hour it really seems overpriced, in terms of the situation 1 year ago.

We will wait for other reports to confirm this new data.

[Ern123]

Thanks all posters on the forum for the excellent info. Especially silent, johan007 and Jose marcia.

Will go to Forta the 28 nov and will stay 4 weeks, anyone want to go barhopping feel free to pm me, and we hock up.

Will post a report when i get back.

See ya

[Nordboer]

I think you lying Patata Chips,ok the quality its not like rio but its really ok.And you say the girls want 200 for 1 hour thats bullshit,Every girls i met stay over the night and i pay 50-100.But its ok that you say that because it keep the tourists away from fortaleza.I dont want alot of tourists in fortaleza,And especially not rich americans.I dont want that fortaleza become like rio in prices,its so expensive in rio.

[Patata Chips]

What you think about more specific?

I can say now the girls are more like europe standard for the time for the quality of sex and the quality of the girls are realy bad, and the quantity are half of 2 years ago.

In a night you can see about 200 girls but no more then 5 are 7 in quality or over and they ask 200 reais for no more then 1 hour.

Need more information?

[Montecristo]

Is this true ? . Can you be more specific, patata chips ?
Reports haven't been so negative .....

[Patata Chips]

Whats happen to forta, is realy bad now.The girls the service is realy bad, not many girls and they ask 100 reais some 200 for 15min or max 30min of program, dont go there.

[Brazil Lover]

Has anything changed on this? Last time I was in Brazil, my travel agent was saying something about that they were maybe going to have direct flights from the US to Fortaleza. It is a pain to go all the way down to SP just to come up again. I would like to do a US-Rio-Forta-US circuit.

Thanks for any info.

[DG69]

Hi Johan, old house how are you?

@Lukasek
About Forta and Recife. Forta has a much bigger scene, but from the quality of girls I prefer Recife. With quality I mean that in Recife are the more pretty girls. From performace I would say that both are equal. Beach and prices for Lodging is in Forta better.
I was several times in Forta and I liked the most to pick up the girls in the clubs, like Desequal, Africas, Cafe del Mar, etc. It was not difficult to found there a girl, often they approach me, but it was difficult for me to find a very good looking girl. They have many girls in the range from 3 - 6 some 7 and only a few 8 or better.
Such girls had mostly long time clients and they were often surrounded by many customer. Was not easy to get them. I often went at home without a girl, just because I don't want take a girl whose I found not pretty.
In Recife the scene was much smaller, but the girls were more pretty and so I had every nigth a good looking girl.
So from point of quality sex, Recife is IMHO much better.

[Bert79]

Hello guys

I am planning to visit fortaleza for the second time this year. I will stay the first 3 weeks of november. I have rented a large appartment with 2 seperate bathrooms and sleep chamber.

(privacy guarenteed)

It is located at at the Beira Mar.

It is really at a top location.

If somebody is interested send me a PM for the details.

[Eros74]

Johan007,

Ciao if I understood well in your opinion, Recife is better about women than Forta? I was in Recife 23 days in march 03, and I saw only few women about 8-9 rate, most of them about 5-6.

And the only good place was Sampa.

There I met a group of guys came from Forta and they told me that much better in Forta, more clubs, better quality of women.

So I am thinking to comeback there and not to Rio, so how you compare Forta and Recife?

Thanks,

Luca