FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Euro100]

No, I did not complain. OK, so I got ripped off. No biggie.
Next time this happens I will know to complain and to cite the combined wisdom of this board.
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[Toscana]

Agree with Ortos and Novize. I've never paid more than one-off EUR 50 for CIM. So, EUR 150 for the hour. One-off charge for anal too, although the level is up for negotiation. Can't believe reception would side with the girl here.

[Novize]

On the other hand, I have also had two cases where the girls demanded that CIM doubles the fee, 100 euro for a half hour, and then 200 for the full hour. I lost both arguments and paid up.

Euro,

I don´t understand that. Did you complain at the reception? The CIM-uplift is definitely a "per case"-charge and not time-dependant...

Have fun,

Novize

[Euro100]

Sorry, I meant "Angela", not "Andrea". Freudian slip, I suppose
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[Euro100]

Ortos,

what happens with CIM after 30 min is up to discussion. I have had a few girls (Eva at Oase, Andrea and Jana at World) who spent much longer than 30 minutes in the room with me, did the CIM thing, and then still only charged me 100 euro. These are the few great exceptions, though, that only occur when the chemistry is right and the girls enjoy themselves.

On the other hand, I have also had two cases where the girls demanded that CIM doubles the fee, 100 euro for a half hour, and then 200 for the full hour. I lost both arguments and paid up.

Funny, I never had anything in between. Meaning I never spend the full hour with CIM and paid 150 euro. Maybe its just me.

With Andrea I just did not want to get into this situation. I definitely did not think that we had the greatest chemistry. Still a pretty good time was had by all ;-)

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[Ortos]

Euro,

Thanks for this great update and report on BHH! I think your comments at the start of your report illustrate what a double-edged sword it is to visit a club like Oase during a major Messe event: On the one hand there is a great selection of girls, on the other hand there are adverse conditions in the club, long waits for rooms, shortages of towels/ice, bad air, less than attractive enviornmetal conditions generally. Plus, lots of girls are a bit stressed. I've come to believe the best time is just before the storm arrives, say a day or two pre-Messe...or even after the storm has passed. Sometimes it's nice to be in the eye of the storm though...

True, Mercedes, who has been around at least since March, is not a tall girl. But when I saw her last this past April I would describe her as a little hefty in the rear, no? I mean, petite sometimes describes a slim, small, ballerina type. Mercedes is very buxom and curvey if I remember, though not tall. A bundle of sexual energy and erotic fire...

I became a bit confused reading this part of your report:

"...We used two condoms, but still finished with CIM. According to my stopwatch the whole romp took 28 minutes. Whew! Three minutes longer, and it would have cost me 200 euro instead of the 100 I owed her..."

I don't quite follow: If you do a 30-minute session with CIM it is 50E + 50E = 100E, no? How is it, then, that if you extended beyond the 30min, to say a session between 30-60min it would be 200E? Surely it would only be another 50E making a total of 150E for an hour session with CIM, no?

Thanks for another great update... With any luck I will soon supply my own in a few weeks...

Ortos

[Euro100]

Hi,

I was at Oase on Saturday evening, the first day of the IAA, the big Frankfurt auto show. There were 40 to 50 girls in attendance, but also much more than 100 men. While 50 girls have no trouble satisfying even 150 men, the problem was with the lack of rooms. In all of my sessions I did not get to use a regular room with a door even a single time. Well, OK, for a couple of them I used the pool-side enclosures. At least they have beds. One pop was in the steam room, which was off. And another two in the kino. Couples were lining up two deep in front of the rooms. It makes for an all-around raunchy atmosphere, but if you want to take your time, the IAA is not the time to go to Oase.

Here is a list of my catches. All of them were firsts for me.

I started off with the best one of the night. Jasmin, from France. Long hair with very tight curls, chestnut brown. On the shorter side with a bronze skin color. She is definitely a keeper and was very much into the sex. She absolutely loved my DATY and already came before I had even put little euro into action. I will definitely go back to her again.

Then Bunny (not to be mixedup with Sunny, see my previous report). Bunny is from Salvador in Brazil, very black, tall, graceful, bright smile. Very competent sex. I would like to dance lambada with this girl.

I then watched some pole dancing. Mercedes, from Egypt, caught my eye. Her dance was a mixture of erotic and athletic. So I figured, what the hell. She did not disappoint in the sack. Since she is rather petite, I was able to do a few positions with her that I cannot do with heavier and taller girls. A fun time and 25 minutes of extremely hard work, but no pop. Happens.

I came out of the "room" with Mercedes, paid, took a shower, and went right back onto the horse, so to speak. Ran into Angela, from Rumania. She is blond, tall, a little bit on the heavy side, just the opposite of Mercedes, even though both are pretty in their own right. We went to the kino and had some pretty wild and sweaty (it was very hot in the kino) sex on the front couch and the bed in front of it. We used two condoms, but still finished with CIM. According to my stopwatch the whole romp took 28 minutes. Whew! Three minutes longer, and it would have cost me 200 euro instead of the 100 I owed her. I doubt that many people paid attention to Angela and me, because on the other bed in the kino a pretty athletic threesome was going on. I have had threesomes myself, and obviously I had sex in public, but never the combination of both. I have to try this sometimes.

Then I chilled for a while, hoping to get enough energy back for one last glorious pop. I selected Mary, also from Rumania. She is a friend of Angela. Her face reminds me a lot of a younger Lauren Hutton, in particular because of the cute gap between her two upper front teeths. She is tall and very well-proportioned. The session withe Mary turned out to be just average, but this was probably much more my fault than hers. I'll have to try her again when the place is calmer and I am more rested.

cheers
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[Routard]

Daniarete: RTFF, check my report on this very same thread "twice better than once".

[Daniariete]

Hi,

I will go in club Oase next December.

Is it possible to have sex with 2 girls who make also lesbo action?

If yes, what is the price?

Thanks

[Henio]

Hi Dasvse,

quote: "Maybe this is typical for a new visitor, but believe it or not, after the food I went of with the same girl to have some coffee in a sofa. Should I have looked for another one?"

Well, it is my guess it is not such a usual behaviour for most who session with Lizzy. I did total of 3 hours in 2 sessions with her the second time I met her at Oase. She is just a nice girl to hang out with as well as great sex

Chivaz

btw: Great reports Dedalus. I had totally forgotten about Simona and had to look up my old reports to refresh my memory. She was pretty good.

[Optimist]

I think that if a person is legally a woman then we have to accept that she has the right to work at an FKK. And if she thinks of herself as a woman then she will sell herself as one.

What is important is that we should all know how to recognise a post-op so that any of us who wish to avoid her can do so - as I said before a girl without a proper clitoris or vagina may not be acceptable for many members. So - look for the Adam's apple, muscles or sinewy arms, a man shaped ass, and a strange looking vagina.

I would not label them as deviants just because they don't conform to our ideas. Technically they are deviating fron the norm of this forum but that is all. After all many people would call all the members of this forum deviants or perverts!!

[Routard]

i understand that it is confusing for some of you reading that there might be post op in fkk. those kind of discussions have been in other places also, like prisons or hospitals, wheter tv, ts, pre op or post op should be with the men or the women (just imagine for example [CodeWord123] problems in prison).

i can confirm that this is not only at oase, i have noticed at least 2 post op in goldentime. there is maybe at every top club at least one post op, wether management try to prevent this or not, as they are legally women.
those who seem to discover this fact for the first time now have probably been allready trapped before without noticing anything, like a lot of other mongerers in other places. sorry to say this, as it may sound quite confusing for some. i remember a friend who hardly knew what was a tv, being very confused and believing he was gay when we told him he had just received a bj from a tv.

personaly, a tall and heavy build girl is for me a no-go girl, even for free and a hilton suite. that's probably why i notice easily the post op. and if a feminine girl like ramona appears to be in fact a post op...it won't make any difference to me!

regarding jackson's policy about tv, i agree with him, as he want this board clearly to stay heterosexual. during our discussion here, no one promoted sex with tv, we are all clearly heterosexual.

[Polar]

Well, I had to pop by Oase again on Monday. Felt rather strange to go there before 11 am. I was afraid to be the only male visitor, and mayby look too much like the guy waiting for the liquer store to open.

There were 4 cars on the parking besides mine, so it would obviously not be overcrowded. Entered and down to get undressed.

Due to my opinion the number of girls were fairly good already at this time of the day. Maybe 15-20 girls were visible and 5 - 6 men. In the bar I met Cissi from yesterday. 2 seconds later I had her in my knee with a big kiss on the mouth. We went to one of the sofas and contined to try to communicate in german. It didn't take long before it was a replay of the day before. Me almost fucking her sitting in my knee. At this time of the day you are very much alone doing this in the big open area, so off to a private room. She chose a nice room, large enough for at least two couples.

This time we stayed one hour. The Tao principle works, and it was one great hour of continous sex. I think she was rather satisfied when the hour had passed. Satisfied sexually I don't know, it's often hard to tell whats fake and whats real when you don't know the woman closer. We had a nice shower together and then I left her in the bar. This girl has a real GFE attitude all the way through.

Time for breakfast/lunch. It could absolutely be improved. As already said, I have not been to any other FKK yet, but what they offered at Oase was slightly below cheapest hotel standard, and that is not much.

The time had past 1 pm and I had to leave for the airport pretty soon. It didn't take long before I had my friend Cissi as company for the food. Most of the girls took something, and I guess she had realised that with the limited number of male visitors, why don't stick to the one still on hunt.

Maybe this is typical for a new visitor, but believe it or not, after the food I went of with the same girl to have some coffee in a sofa. Should I have looked for another one? I was very satisfied with her company, so why not. This time however the sofa was placed in the kino. One thing gives the other, and after 15 minutes we were fucking furiously on the sofa. What the hell, I don't know anyone in this place. 30 minutes later there was not place for Tao any more. 3 hours collection had to come out. I filled the condom and after a short rest we placed the furnitures back again where they should stand. They had moved around during the activity. Once again a shower together. I then had to get dressed and unfortunately leave the place.

A real GFE godbuy in the bar before I left. This two first days in the world of FKK had given much more than I ever could have dreamt. I have since long planned to travel back to Frankfurt and visit the Car fair IAA 2005. I wonder if it will be any cars at all, or if I stay at Oase. But OK, have to test Palace as well, and that one is closer to the Messe.

[Ortos]

@Peter:

You wrote:

"Jackson has been pretty clear on many sections of this forum that he will not tolerate posts about sex with post-ops, TV's Ts's or any other sort of deviant. Wahtever your personal beliefs, Jackson seems to have made it a personal point in his forum that Boys who pretend to be girls, or girls who used to be boys should not be mentioned. Let's keep it like this."

I think it is important to clarify that we are having a very useful and necessary discussion here: about the apparent presence of a Man/Girl (chick-with-a-dick or whatever) masquerading as a woman at BHH Oase, one of the top 3 FKKs in Germany! This is definite info that I personally want to know. In fact I am eager for it, (so that I don't end up in a room by mistake), so I do indeed hope it will be broadcast loud and clear on this (Jackson's) forum. Discussions of this sort definitely should not be taboo, in my opinion at least, so I am a little confused by your comment discussions about one working in an FKK "should not be mentioned." You know what I mean? If some one at an FKK is trying to mislead me --and I think a post-op who works there must KNOW that every one of us is there to fuck a hot girl of our hetersexual dreams-- we all deserve to know who she is, no?

I can hardly believe that our esteemed Leader, Herr Jackson, would have us good old FKK boys in the dark about these things, eh? What do you say, Jackson? (Show us you actually read these FKK threads and chime in, will you old chap?)

[Novize]

As I wrote, noone has to do a session with a Katoi.

But there is a need for that, otherwise these Katois wouldn´t earn money in the clubs.

And why should she advertise as a "Post-OP TS"? When she feels like a woman, she will tell you that she is one. That wouldn´t even be a lie.

If you recognize a Katoi and don´t want to do a session with her, just don´t do it.

If you don´t recognize a Katoi as a Katoi, it doesn´t make a difference.