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04-19-08 14:19 #508
Posts: 16I was also put off by Uncle Jack's first post, although I agreed with a large portion of the content. I was also confused as to his choices based on my limited experience with Colombia. I saw Americans living in Colombia with 1 or more extremely beautiful girlfriends and while some were paying like Uncle Jack, several were paying for little more than dinner and transportation. In these cases the girls really were girlfriends, not girls on their payroll who were pretending to be their girlfriends.
His second post explained a lot more, and his third post explained more still. He has a great granddaughter that spent $20K on her own birthday. Considering that, my guess is that Uncle Jack is his LATE 70's to 80's. The fact that he is wealthy and lives permanently in Colombia, opens up opportunities that most guys who only visit once or twice a year will never see. At the same time, his age limits the ability to fully use the venues that a lot of mongers on this board like, whether he would want to try those locations or not. Can you actually imagine an 80 something year old man trolling Mayorista or hitting several strip clubs every night looking for a 30 min lay? It is a much safer, convenient, and smarter course of action to have these two college students come by his house every day and give him what he wants. I find that a lot of the older guys tend to gravitate towards having a steady girl they call (they tend to lease, instead of rent).
Just as guys who live in Medellin have more options than guys who don't, and guys who have more money have more options than guys who don't, guys in their late 20's to early 50's have more (or shall we say different) options than guys in their 80's. Personally I hope to be like Uncle Jack when I am in my 80's, with 2 hot teenagers worshiping me. Seeing how my grandpa lived when he was in his 80's, I admire the lifestyle of Uncle Jack. It beats eating creamed corn while waiting to die in some nursing home. But right now, I'm 31 years old, and having the same two girls every day, no matter how beautiful they are, would bore the hell out of me.
I don't pay these girls for companionship. I pay them to fuck and leave. I can get companionship for free in the U. S. In fact, that is the problem for me in the States. Pretty girls are willing to fuck me, but they want a "relationship" to go with it. I can't be tied down to one girl at this time in my life, no matter how pretty, because eventually I will get bored. I know several guys who monger in Costa Rica and Colombia that are like that. Some of us WANT the random, wild, sex with a Mayorista girl, Mansion girl or stripper. Truth be told, there is something thrilling about hunting in the low end strip clubs and streets and finding that diamond in the rough. We aren't looking for someone to worship us, we want someone to fuck us and leave. Now, I have spent time with putas, hung out with them and done fun (non-sexual) things, but I am not paying for that shit.
I absolutely agree with his point about being respectful to these women. I disagree about negotiating on price, however. These girls (if they are smart) will start off with an inflated price if they think you can afford it and will pay it. However, I find that once I speak to them (in Spanish) and I inform them that I know what the standard price is, they have no problem agreeing to a more realistic number. Perhaps it is different in Medellin, but in most of my time in Latin America, the concept of negotiating for price is generally respected. In fact, I have had several Colombianas tell me about how little they respect guys who just spend money like it was water. They will take the cash, but they won't respect the guy that is giving it.
This certainly isn't to say that the girls Uncle Jack is playing with don't respect him. The fact is, he is operating at a completely different level than most of us, and in most cases with a very different type of girl. Between his residency, his wealth, and his age, he is much more playing the roll of sugar daddy than monger. No problem there, everyone has there own style. Me, I don't even like TLNs.
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04-19-08 13:21 #507
Posts: 457I guess I am that scum
I am rotating about 5 chicas, paying between 30,000 to 100,000 and they get coming back and asking if they can bring friends. One amiga works in a disco for 25,000 a day so my additional 30,000 three days a week comes in real handy.
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04-19-08 13:15 #506
Posts: 1694Who was the gringo that was shot in the passagers side driving down 33rd street this last week ? (4 bullets in his side but he lived, well he´s still alive)
His girlfrind was driving and she was killed, apparently they were after her!
A.G.
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04-19-08 12:31 #505
Posts: 95Originally Posted by Uncle Jack
My hat off to you, that's quite a piece of philanthropy.
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04-19-08 12:24 #504
Posts: 1694I asked my girlfirnd Cata yesterday, when we go out with a group to Mangos or where ever with a group of our guests and there escorts so to speak!
(at time's we have large groups at Mango's and resturants) every body will think you are the same as the escorts si o no! She said to me si, claro, don't you feel a little uneasy, she said yes I do but I don't care, a am really with you and this is your job to take people/guests out for a good time, we have been together for a year and a half.
I also asked her, are there many girls living off older men at all these Universities, she told me, ¨you wouldn't believe how many¨ I said to her yes I do.
I would say that every man here in Medellin who has money and a wife and children has a mistress, or two, even my father inlaw's from both my girlfriends.
Generally, Paisa's look down on Gringo's (and even other Colombian's from other parts of Colombia) now even more so, before when I was first here no.
Anyway, thats my two cents worth.
A. G.
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04-19-08 11:36 #503
Posts: 166Seeing is good - Feeling is better.
My best sexual memories have not been from the prettiest girls I have met, but more the kind of "girl next door" type with a extraordinary sexlust.
And even that I have never fucked a "true famous" celebrity fashiongirl, I can judge from their leaked sexvideos on the internet that the sex they provide is not on pair with what most males would call "hot sex".
However, I have had some really, really good sex with quite a few girls next door.
Bottomline: I'm in it for the fun sex. If you want surface, buy a fashion magazine.
Best regards / Ken Apples
Originally Posted by Phunluv
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04-19-08 09:25 #502
Posts: 38The overarching point of Uncle Jacks posts ...
Is that ALL the women we deal with have to be treated with respect; this is especially important to bear in mind for visitors to country as potentially dangerous as Colombia. Doing so only enhances the experience for all parties involved. The inevitable sucess of a place like the Mansion does, unfortunately, have the side affect of drawing down some more unsavory, cheap-charlie types, who just a few years ago, would never have ventured beyond the relatively safe havens of the D. R. , or Costa Rica.
While I recently had a great visit renewing friendships with the Aussie and MDE Bob, as well as meeting new friends, my stomach would would turn as a particular 'monger' would proudly relate over breakfast how he would complain to a casa manager if a girl he just banged for an hour for 50k, had the temerity to ask him for a tip! Not to mention, never chipping in for the bill, but still hanging with the group at Mango's. I hope he recognizes himself here. "Ugly Americans" like him give us ALL a bad name.
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04-19-08 07:22 #501
Posts: 262I want to be like Uncle Jack when I get old! :)
Well, it's good to see that at least one person out there can verify what I've tried to say now and then. That there is a high-end with some really stunning women, and that most of these are off-limits to the turistas unless you're hanging out with the right Colombians and are not just around for a few days.
In any case, if the street scene or the low-end casas are your thing, by all means enjoy it. I'm not all that crazy about them, but I've had decent/interesting experiences at those places too.
Just don't expect Sofia Vergara or Andrea Rincon types to pop up. :)
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04-19-08 07:20 #500
Posts: 2690Originally Posted by George0724
With all due respect, your arguments are complete bullshit.
First, Uncle Jack is employing a strategy that can only be employed by someone who is living in the country. It simply cannot be employed by visiting tourist mongers, and thus has no effect on their chica-chasing ambitions.
Second, Uncle Jack's strategy is targeted towards a demographic group of chicas that does not work in the traditional venues, and thus it has no effect on the chica prices in the venues typically frequented by visiting tourist mongers, and thus it also has no effect on their chica-chasing ambitions.
Thanks,
Jackson
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04-19-08 05:08 #499
Posts: 734Isn't the point of the forum to share information?
Uncle Jack provides good info. So Jack is in a different snack bracket, why does that [CodeWord140] you off ? Does it make the info any less relevant?
As Sailor suggests, different strokes for different folks.
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04-19-08 03:46 #498
Posts: 62Uncle Jack
I agree with most of what Uncle Jack said, I only took exception to the following:
"But I assure you that 99. 999% of the University students are not going to be seen in public with a gringo. These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States. These girls only date Colombians, or in the rare case rich gringos that live in Medellin."
Maybe I am part of the .001 %, but I have had some serious Colombian girlfriends, one in particular I was with for three years, and she was a university student and worked on occassion for one of the big modeling agencies in the city, took part in Colombia Moda fashions shows, etc. I am not a rich man, but I do speak fluent spanish and treated her well.
I guess I take exception to the idea that beautiful Colombian women from the middle and upper classes will not date gringos. If you are not uncouth and treat them well, I think there are many beautiful Colombian girls from all classes who are obtainable and would make great girlfriends and even-- gulp!-- wives.
My two cents.
SL
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04-19-08 03:21 #497
Posts: 286Go Jack
Jack,
I have not reached that stage in life, but more power to you man. You worked hard, its your money and you have a right to do whatever you want. You're right, old people here don't get any respect. I have seen it too many times where children see you getting old and only see the dollars. NO RESPECT for the experienced, wise old man. All they see is an old fool with money.
Good luck man. I respect you.
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04-19-08 03:16 #496
Posts: 2874Originally Posted by Uncle Jack
This second post of yours shows that you are a caring and apreciative person.
I also appreciate the kindess I have found in the Colombiana.
I'm sure that I don't have the resources you have to financially reward them, but I always treat these chicas with warmness and with a good heart.
Take care amigo!
Ricker
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04-19-08 01:52 #495
Posts: 316Originally Posted by Uncle Jack
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04-19-08 01:49 #494
Posts: 63Scum?
"These girls are very aware of their class position and realize that most of the gringos in Medellin are poor low class scum in the United States".
That's very hurtful!