Medellin Reports

[Davidb3069]

David, you made my point better than I ever could. If you haven't noticed, some here are interested in dating non-prostitutes. They need to care what others think. Your attitude explains your poor results with non-prostitutes and your jaded perspective.

I'd say it's just the opposite. What people think of me is none of my business. It's a healthy attitude. It means I have self-esteem and don't need the approval of others to feel better about myself.

I didn't have a lack of luck with non-pros. I simply didn't care to put in the effort to win them over. If I wanted to put in that effort, I'd move back to the states (Yes, I am from Florida, born and raised). Honestly, I find non-working girls about as exciting as watching paint dry. About the same with American girls.

Catch a working girl before she's been enveloped by the life and it's possible to still find some keepers. I married mine.

David

[Rippp]

Obviously you don't live in Florida. There are plenty of Latinas, including Colombianas, in Florida that are not destitute. Many have citizenship or legal status. Believe it or not, there are Colombianas from wealthy families in Florida.

I'm not the one with the monger mentality. It is unfortunate that some Gringos have no self-confidence. That lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of the monger mentality.

The point is not about getting desperate, vulnerable tang who are looking for a green card and a "life" with the media romanticzed gringo, which main stream media has put on a pedestal for as long as these chicas have been alive. Imagine that. This lifetime brainwashing, if you will, has given the chicas some pretty wacked, Hollywood imagery of the gringo. I have live in S. FL and sure, it's a hopping "pond", as you so eloquently put but let's be honest here, 99% of the "wide open" florida tang, fall into the FOB category, with almost certain prepago/puta baggage. 2nd gen "normal" Cubana tang, you say? Ok, but if that's your thing, then ask yourself why you like foreign, less jaded, tang in the first place. It's about getting the quote, "normal" chica, without the economic disparty equation, without any expectations from either party. Painfully obvious, this is what you are referring to regarding Florida tang. It's obvious you have quite the romanticed view, read naive, view of these chicas and if you're gonna believe what these few "legal", "not destitute" chicas tell you, the more power to you bro. These chicas lie their ass off, it's an inherent and necessary trait in their situtation, who can blame them. So the moral of this story is that finding that "normal" chica without the puta past is quite elusive, if not an entire pipe dream. Sure, hell, you might be one of those guys that constantly fall for these chicas and completely disregard any past puta and all the other baggage. Read. War brides throughout history. Not at all dissimilar.

[Ricker]

While I didn't agree with some other comments by David, I certainly agree with everything David says here. For some reason, a lot of Gringos leave their common sense at the airport in Miami. I like Colombianas, but I don't put them on a pedestal. In Colombia, you need a healthy dose of skepticism. Colombianas are experts at telling guys what they want to hear, and some are good actresses. Determining the sincerity of Colombianas isn't that difficult, however.

Plain and simple, you should be looking for Colombianas that aren't looking for Gringos.

Non-prostitutes are a "no pain, no gain" situation in Colombia. Most Gringos are lazy and naive. Most Gringos date Colombianas they meet from the dating sites, marriage agencies, dance clubs known to be popular with Gringos, poolside at luxury hotels, etc. I hate to shatter the egos of some Gringos, but most of those Colombianas are prepagos.

I highly recommend you assume that such women are prepagos. Just because they don't charge you, doesn't mean they don't charge other guys.

I am not saying not to date such women. They can be a lot of fun. However, don't be naive. Recognize the type of woman that you are dating with both eyes wide open.

If you truly want a serious relationship with a Colombiana, then look for a Colombiana that isn't looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.

Good advice amigo!

Nothing like dating chicas who collect their monthly Western Union money from their other boyfriends :)

[Ricker]

Ricker,

I'm not talking about importing. I am talking about Colombianas that already are citizens or have legal status in the U. S.

I know many Gringos that complain that they were "burned" by a Colombiana that they imported from Colombia. In most cases, those Gringos refuse to acknowledge the truth. The truth is that they don't speak Spanish, they impulsively married a Colombiana after a very short time period and they married a Colombiana that was a prostitute or prepago.

I agree with you amigo. I've seen these guys burned too.

I think the big factors being the lack of communication ability and relative short time knowing eachother.

To be honest though, most of the disasters I've seen have been with the non-pro type chica.

Couple guys I know met chicas on the internet. Neither guy speaks spanish.

They go to Colombia, meet their girls. Visit a few more times.

Get a fiancee visa, get married.

Six months to a year later ... Disaster.

I remember sitting next to one guy's new esposa on a flight to Cali.

By chance, we were both heading back to Cali for a visit. My buddy had to stay behind for work in the US.

All she did was ***** ***** *****. What happened to the sweetheart in her ??
And my friend, she was a regular chica ... an architect.

Speaking of Colombianas that are already citizens or legal in the US.

Well normally it's because they come from families with money.

I personally avoid them, they're usually the most spoiled of all.

My buddy dates one of them in Miami. What a pain in the butt she is.

I even dated a Colombiana from a well to do family in Miami at one time.

She was really beautiful, I was weak and stupid at the time :)

Oh my God what a spoiled little princess brat, and how she treated regular working people like crap.

Never again for me, whether they live in US or Colombia, I avoid the rich, spoiled brats.

I know that I'm generalizing again.

Just my observations from a lot of experience.

[DoloresThomas]

Does anyone know any of the "**************" girls?

I'm talking about Milkymaria, Aria Valentino, Paris Milan, Chloe Veria, Tatiana La Vega and many more.

Some of them with their own websites and others in the different sites under the first address. Chloe, for sure, is from Medellin. Most of the others, I believe, are also paisas. A prosperous porn industry. Maybe some of us could fulfill the fantasy of actually fucking a pornstar. Oyeloca and pacinosadventures fans will know that the mansion and VIP have held some of these cuties (Juana, Jazmin) among their cast. But the first ladys are more my type - thick, busty, and downright wild.

Thanks beforehand for any info.

[Client 9]

Hmmmmm. I have a few rules I follow for dating these latinas.

The most important one. Keep them in their native country.

Boy do they change when they hit the US. I know I'm generalizing, but I've seen it many times with friends of mine.

Ricker,

I'm not talking about importing. I am talking about Colombianas that already are citizens or have legal status in the U. S.

I know many Gringos that complain that they were "burned" by a Colombiana that they imported from Colombia. In most cases, those Gringos refuse to acknowledge the truth. The truth is that they don't speak Spanish, they impulsively married a Colombiana after a very short time period and they married a Colombiana that was a prostitute or prepago.

[Client 9]

Destitute, Fresh off the barco (FOB) Florida tang is a weak argument bro.

Reality is gonna bite you in the ass.

Let's just say, you have the classic gringo monger mentality.

Obviously you don't live in Florida. There are plenty of Latinas, including Colombianas, in Florida that are not destitute. Many have citizenship or legal status. Believe it or not, there are Colombianas from wealthy families in Florida.

I'm not the one with the monger mentality. It is unfortunate that some Gringos have no self-confidence. That lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of the monger mentality.

[Client 9]

This is not the Florida forum. This is the place to discuss Colombia.

David

You're right. It is the Colombia forum, and I am discussing Colombianas.

Why have you been discussing Ecuador in the Colombia forum?

[Client 9]

Uh. Who cares what people think or assume? It's none of their business. I travel to those countries to enjoy myself - if I'm worried about what people think, I should stay home.

David

David, you made my point better than I ever could. If you haven't noticed, some here are interested in dating non-prostitutes. They need to care what others think. Your attitude explains your poor results with non-prostitutes and your jaded perspective.

[Client 9]

If guys are having great luck there in the dating scene, I would attribute it to a few things:

1) The chicks perceive the guys as being a long-term option rather than a fast in and out tourist;

2) The chicks don't perceive the guys as being mongers;

3) The guys aren't acting like mongers and doing monger activities;

Like it or not, word spreads very fast about the activities of mongers. The girls can ask a few friends and likely get the scoop on someone. In Cartagena (Laguito), forget trying to stay anonymous with what you do. People up and down those streets know your business (especially around LDV).

I'd be curious to know the truth of how many of those "working, educated" girls have turned tricks before or do it on the side if money is needed. If they are putting out that easily, I would suspect they got broken in someplace. I have been with a few of those "educated" girls too, but they were paying for their schooling by turning tricks. And they were young.

David

While I didn't agree with some other comments by David, I certainly agree with everything David says here. For some reason, a lot of Gringos leave their common sense at the airport in Miami. I like Colombianas, but I don't put them on a pedestal. In Colombia, you need a healthy dose of skepticism. Colombianas are experts at telling guys what they want to hear, and some are good actresses. Determining the sincerity of Colombianas isn't that difficult, however.

Plain and simple, you should be looking for Colombianas that aren't looking for Gringos.

Non-prostitutes are a "no pain, no gain" situation in Colombia. Most Gringos are lazy and naive. Most Gringos date Colombianas they meet from the dating sites, marriage agencies, dance clubs known to be popular with Gringos, poolside at luxury hotels, etc. I hate to shatter the egos of some Gringos, but most of those Colombianas are prepagos.

I highly recommend you assume that such women are prepagos. Just because they don't charge you, doesn't mean they don't charge other guys.

I am not saying not to date such women. They can be a lot of fun. However, don't be naive. Recognize the type of woman that you are dating with both eyes wide open.

If you truly want a serious relationship with a Colombiana, then look for a Colombiana that isn't looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.

[Malodr]

So I was sitting around thinking that I needed to expand my horizons and Santa Fe would do the trick. The Plumber and I had found two Paisas that we linked so we arranged a taxi for a day trip here. The total cost would be 200,000 and it was from 10am - 5pm.

We had a great meal, checked out a few smaller towns and Hotels along the way.

I plan on returning in the near future.

[Noqrtr61]

Could someone provide the streets/cross streets for the Mayorista Area?

Thanks

Noq

[Ricker]

Do Colombianas become more selective after arriving in Florida? Of course. But most of them still want to meet, date and marry Gringos. However, the Colombianas are able to be more selective in Florida. Likewise, I am more selective in Colombia than I am in Florida.

Hmmmmm. I have a few rules I follow for dating these latinas.

The most important one. Keep them in their native country.

Boy do they change when they hit the US. I know I'm generalizing, but I've seen it many times with friends of mine.

[Rippp]

it's not just in colombia. florida is a great pond to fish for latinas, including colombianas. florida is a good pond. colombia is a really, really, really good pond.

do colombianas become more selective after arriving in florida? of course. but most of them still want to meet, date and marry gringos. however, the colombianas are able to be more selective in florida. likewise, i am more selective in colombia than i am in florida.

it's all a question of supply and demand.

of course, there are colombianas that would rather slit their wrists than date a gringo. however, that can change instantly when that colombiana meets the "right" gringo.

in medellin, you will hear many women make racist comments. and you know what? if will smith and tiger woods were to enter a medellin dance club, they would need machetes to scrape the piles of beautiful women off of themselves!

destitute, fresh off the barco (fob) florida tang is a weak argument bro.

reality is gonna bite you in the ass.

let's just say, you have the classic gringo monger mentality.

[El Bombero]

Hey dudes!

Does anyone of you guys know who are the 2 hot ass madames at Loutrons?

Yes, the 2 hot hostess that greets you when you arrive at Loutrons.

One is blonde and one is a brunette. They both have big booty, big boobs, and beautiful face.

I think the brunette is name Deanna. Etc. And the blonde one. I don't remember. Any of you guys know their story? Were the pros at one point? Tied with the mafia?

Have any of you guys tried to hook up with them? Ha ha ha ha

One of my trips to Loutrons I met the blonde (dyed) madame and thought she was hotter than the available line-up. So, when she asked which girl I wanted, I half-jokingly asked if she was available.

She DID NOT think that was even funny and asked my again, in a not-so-nice tone of voice which girl I wanted. So I left it at that.

After my session, I asked my cabbie Alejandro who the Madame was and, according to him, she was indeed at one time a working girl who married a rich client and then became the owner. According to him, her husband is connected and so is she.

Anyone can confirm this? Ironically, I thought the blonde and the brunette madames were WAY hotter than any of the too-young girls in the line-up. Even if they're tetas y culos are totally siloconas.