General Reports

[TomJackin]

Yep, they have gottem me too. That's why I now park on the other side of the interstate where you get many more hours for about the same price. UETA, I think.

Yes, that lot is 7 bucks for 24 hours. I park there if I plan on staying 2-3 nights in Tijuana.

[HorseTrader]

I once missed the parking deadline by one minute! A few seconds if anything. Bastard still charged me anyways even after much pleading. If I hadn't loitered in my car fiddling with the radio and I would have been $7 dollars richer. I was pissed.

Yep, they have gottem me too. That's why I now park on the other side of the interstate where you get many more hours for about the same price. UETA, I think.

[Efjayel]

I was out of that damn parking lot with 8 minutes to spare. The lot attendant and I were both in shock!

I once missed the parking deadline by one minute! A few seconds if anything. Bastard still charged me anyways even after much pleading. If I hadn't loitered in my car fiddling with the radio and I would have been $7 dollars richer. I was pissed.

[Guitarrefreak]

Here was our conversation:

Me: Good evening sir (with a big smile).

Agent: Good evening (no smile) , are you bringing anything back from Mexico?

Me: God, I hope not!

Agent: Well, that eliminates my next question of what you were doing in Mexico (big smile).

Me: Yes, it appears that we can wrap things up at this point.

Agent: It appears that way, have a good evening.

Well played sir, well played

[Ath Trainer]

Just took a taxi from that spot. Also back from the Zona to that spot. 50 pesos each way. Tomjackin I looked all over for you. I hit 2 SW for 200 pesos each and one chick in Adelitas for $50+$13 for the room for 30 minutes.

All of the 5 chicas I went with this past wk, asked / accepted. 60. 2 were hk girls, the other 3 from ab. No negotiation to get to that. With all the recent talk about girls asking .80, I was happy not having to deal with that part of the negotiation. Not my strong point. Gave me more energy to concentrate on menu options.

[TomJackin]

As I was walking by the parking lot attendant while heading to the crossing, I stopped and told that dude,"Today, I will be out of this lot within 8 hours dammit!" He just laughed because he knows my bad habit of overstaying. But this time I was determined.

After having my favorite taco in the world, I was about to pay the guy that collects the money, when some bewildered train wreck looking dude came up to me with some coins in his hand. 2 quarters and other small peso coins. He said he needed all pesos so he could buy a taco for some other stand. I told him I didn't have pesos, only dollars. Then he said, yes, a dollar would be better. I said,"Dude, make up your fucking mind!" He puts the coins in my hand and it was far short of a dollar, but I gave him a buck anyway. The guy that collects the money finds this very amusing and is having a good laugh. I asked him,"What is so damn funny? These damn coins are going directly to you to pay for my taco!" He stopped laughing.

Eight hours; time was ticking.

Hong Kong:

A lot of new faces and asses to play with. It amazes me how HK just reloads the club with hot women on a regular basis. I had a few hotties come by to say hello, or more like to get a drink or a buck. There were a few that I planted my face in their ass. They always seem surprised when then get the tongue; wonder why? Maricóand was in good spirits, he was working three tables of regular customers at the same time, me included. But I knew I had to cut my HK time if I wanted to get out of Tijuana within 8 hours. So I was leaving earlier than ever before and Maricóand looked like a sad puppy that was being left alone for the very first time.

Eight hours; time was ticking.

Tropical:

While in HK, I was texting back and forth with a new girl that I like in BT. I texted her to come to the door so I would not get attacked by the wife when I walked in the place. I crossed the street and she was sitting on a motorcycle outside. Walked in with her and the meseros were swarming like vultures. As I was swatting them away, I found my guy. As the new squeeze and I were chatting, I could not remember how we got started in the first place. I asked her,"Have we fucked before?" She said,"No, you would remember if we had!" Thus, a date and time was set!

Eight hours; time was ticking.

After a tasty spicy shrimp taco, I decided to find out what was happening at the Five-star Monitos! There was a beauty standing next to the door. I think her name was Jessica. I told her that my cock and balls needed mouth service. She gave me a good rate and off we went hand in hand just like a newlywed couple. When in the room, she asked me if I wanted her to get undressed and I said,"Oh hell no!" She worked hard for the money and did a damn good job; I tipped her for the stellar performance. Went to clean up; no fucking water! I start yelling out the door to turn on the damn water and Jessica thinks this is funny. I reminded her she has more to clean up than me; not funny anymore.

Eight hours; time was ticking.

Las Chavelas:

Going prego hunting! The last few weeks, I've been hanging with one of the girls I liked when she was pregnant. I did my best to try to help her out when I could. Months later, she is back to work and we got reunited thanks to my older brother. One night, we were drinking and she got up for whatever reason, so I practiced my shitty Spanish on two girls that were sitting behind me. Well, one of the cuties behind me happened to be 3 months pregnant. What in the fuck is in the water in Tijuana? Later, she sat next to me and I told her I would help her out when I could. She was scared and crying. I'm such a fucking sucker for mothers that are in trouble. Anyhow, last week she hung out with me, I put minutes on her phone, and gave more money than I usually pay.

So I walk in LC looking for prego and x-prego. Neither to be found. I found out that prego gathered up enough money for a one way ticket home; which made me happy. I'm sitting with my new cutie in LC, and I get a text from the x-prego and she wants to meet in an hour at a fast food place on Revolution. Not going to happen, I would get out of there in less than 8 hours, I was determined! Checked the time, where does the time go? I haven't made it to CC, Gloria, or Nikkis and it is already time to head back; I'm throwing out the "Not Fucking Fair" flag!

Less than 8 hours, I can pull this one off!

The only thing that could stop me from overstaying my 8 hours would be a border agent.

Here was our conversation:

Me: Good evening sir (with a big smile).

Agent: Good evening (no smile) , are you bringing anything back from Mexico?

Me: God, I hope not!

Agent: Well, that eliminates my next question of what you were doing in Mexico (big smile).

Me: Yes, it appears that we can wrap things up at this point.

Agent: It appears that way, have a good evening.

I was out of that damn parking lot with 8 minutes to spare. The lot attendant and I were both in shock!

[Mr Enternational]

Damn dude! You did all that in one night? And you paid for a bar girl? I'm starting to believe in god!

Well you shouldn't. My wingman talked me into the Adelitas girl, saying you only live once. Plus I just happened to bring more money than I usually do. I will say that she was probably the best pussy I have had in Tijuana. She kept trying to reach for the KY but I kept telling her no. She was already wet, so there was no need for that shit. I wanted to fuck pussy, not fuck KY. But when time is up they really want you out of that room. The guy kept banging on the door every 10 seconds. Then had the nerve to ask for a tip when I left out.

[TomJackin]

Just took a taxi from that spot. Also back from the Zona to that spot. 50 pesos each way. Tomjackin I looked all over for you. I hit 2 SW for 200 pesos each and one chick in Adelitas for $50+$13 for the room for 30 minutes.

Damn dude!

You did all that in one night?

And you paid for a bar girl?

I'm starting to believe in god!

See you soon!

[Hargow20]

Some people talk about how the girls are forced into the trade by the sex traffickers. But in my mind it's still their choice in the end. If the girls want to quit their is nothing stopping them walking out the door and leaving the trade. Sure the girls can claim economic circumstances, but then again it's still their choice. The other factor is that there is cops all around the Zona. So the girls can complain to to policia if some pimp is threatening them. I do feel sorry that some of the SG's have been doing it so long. But I still view it as their choice.

Someone said that most of these girls are forced into this life and not always by a pimp. This is actually true. I have yet to have any girl admit to me she is there because she was kidnapped. I mean unless they lie. Although I suspect that if any are it would more likely be the street girls, as I've seen a few that have a look that they obviously don't want to be there. Some I've even seen with tears running down their face while some asian mongers pointed out she was crying, laughed and walked away. I felt ashamed to be a monger that day : (

One of my favoritas that I've known for a while and very personally (by personally I mean she's even invited me to her home and introduced me to her family). She got into the trade because she was a desperate single mother. Things went well at first because she said she used to get like 10 customers or more per day working the bars making some good money. She was, in her words,"viviendo la vida buena" which translates to,"living the good life." Of course that was back then. Now that she's older and with the slowdown of the Zona, she hardly gets any customers. But this is all she knows. It's the only real job she's ever had and she's racking her brain now realizing that she's not getting anywhere in life and that things are only going to get worse while the bills keep piling up.

[Mr Enternational]

Just took a taxi from that spot. Also back from the Zona to that spot. 50 pesos each way. Tomjackin I looked all over for you. I hit 2 SW for 200 pesos each and one chick in Adelitas for $50+$13 for the room for 30 minutes.

[Phordphan]

If you cross during the day you might want to try this.

Normally if one wanted a Taxi Libre, after entering Mexico via the new entrance, one walked up the steps of the first pedestrian bridge, across the street to the Taxis Economicas, past them to the McDonalds, turned left and walked to the traffic circle and nabbed a Libre.

Instead, after entering Mexico, bear right at the fork and follow the signs that say Hotel & Casino. You'll see signs for another pedestrian bridge with an arrow and the word Tijuana on it. Follow the path up to the top of the rise. But, instead of turning right and walking across the bridge towards the traffic circle, step over the low spot between the concrete retainer wall and the beginning of the barrier fence that separates the bridge's walkway from the traffic lanes. Wait a few seconds and a Libre will be along because, now that the upper drop-off point is now a Yellow Cab stand, the Libres can no longer park there. Flag one down and they'll be thrilled to take you to Centro, the Ticuan or Zona Norte for 50 pesos.

[Phordphan]

a few nights ago i was half working around the house and half watching a cnbc report that included a section regarding prostitution in tijuana. most of the report seemed accurate, but there were a few things that i couldn't believe.

first, one street girl said she has about 30 customers per day at $20 per date. there was no video of the girl, so i don't know which one it was. i find it hard to believe that any of those girls has that many dates. from what i can tell, even the best ones spend most of their time outside waiting for a customer.

second, the report said that 80% of the girls are forced into prostitution. they claimed that most of them were kidnapped from central mexico towns and brought to tijuana. they also said that only a very few are from tijuana. i find much of this hard to believe, when i talk to them it seems that they view prostitution as the only way to make that much money, but i don't see indication that they are actually forced into it. i also don't see any indication that hey want to do regular work for 1000 pesos a week (or whatever they can make).

third, they were talking about the strip bars and included some video inside a bar (i think it was ab). the description seemed accurate until they talked about younger girls. the report said that customers can ask for younger girls and they have a back room where younger prostitutes are available for additional money. i've never seen an indication that there is a hidden room with younger girls and i don't remember monger reports about it.

perhaps i didn't listen to the report accurately and missed some report details, or, maybe i look at tijuana through rose colored glasses. i'd like to hear some other experienced mongers' views on this.

horsetrader

one of the things everybody needs to take into consideration is that so much of the "reporting" we hear regarding the sex industry is fueled by radical feminist viewpoints.

1. no woman would voluntarily sleep with a man for money.

2. all women in the sex industry are being exploited by eeeeevil men.

3. far and away most of the women are "victims" and have been trafficked into the industry. we know this because of rule #1.

once you proceed from these "facts," you get crap like this documentary and others of its ilk. there isn't a girl in the zona who gets 30 customers a day. maybe some of the low-end "local only" girls, if a strawberry bus drops of a load of pickers, might get flooded on occasion. :d other than that, we can all see for ourselves that this claim is specious at best.

again, since no woman would sleep with a man for money, it follows that all women who do are forced into it. yes, there are plenty of padrotes. some say most of the sgs have them, others say it's a minority. who knows? i've known several club girls over the years and none of them had a padrote. one told me she had two sons, and they were her padrotes. i think every girl i've ever talked to was there of their own volition. nobody ever mentioned kidnapping, not that they would. but almost everyone talked of their family. how often they visited, etc, and life outside of work (kids, school, etc.) i think the kidnap story is pure self-serving ngo bullshit. i will say that few of the hookers are from tijuana. but that's not unusual. mexico, like other developing countries, has a couple of large cities that attract workers of all kinds from all over the country. tijuana has a very busy nightlife scene, and if you're going to peddle your ass, tijuana is probably the best place for doing it.

i think everyone here has combed almost every inch of every bar in the zona. a secret room where **** girls are available for a price? wow. that's a story that, as they say in the journalism business, is too good to check. sure, **** girls are available in every country on the face of the earth if you know where to look. but i'm giggling at the mental image of sneaking into ab, slinking to the back room and knocking on a door. the judas hole opens up. si? jose sent me. ok. pasale. riiight. somebody has been watching too many movies.

[Tratnguyen1]

Someone said that most of these girls are forced into this life and not always by a pimp. This is actually true. I have yet to have any girl admit to me she is there because she was kidnapped. I mean unless they lie. Although I suspect that if any are it would more likely be the street girls, as I've seen a few that have a look that they obviously don't want to be there. Some I've even seen with tears running down their face while some asian mongers pointed out she was crying, laughed and walked away. I felt ashamed to be a monger that day....

Gents,

L have been in T. J. For quite a long time since the early 80's and still keep go south of border for entertainment a great choice when you live in southern California. I talked to a lot of chicas when I visit Tijuana. , the SG. BG. Are mainly I am only interested in for a relax times. All chicas give me answered very straight forwards " making money to support " their own life and their kids that all I heard. No Pimp. No kidnapped. No body forced them into the trade. However, I have No ideal how and what those chicas pay to work in the bars, or standing at the front of motel.

[Efjayel]

Someone said that most of these girls are forced into this life and not always by a pimp. This is actually true. I have yet to have any girl admit to me she is there because she was kidnapped. I mean unless they lie. Although I suspect that if any are it would more likely be the street girls, as I've seen a few that have a look that they obviously don't want to be there. Some I've even seen with tears running down their face while some asian mongers pointed out she was crying, laughed and walked away. I felt ashamed to be a monger that day : (

One of my favoritas that I've known for a while and very personally (by personally I mean she's even invited me to her home and introduced me to her family). She got into the trade because she was a desperate single mother. Things went well at first because she said she used to get like 10 customers or more per day working the bars making some good money. She was, in her words,"viviendo la vida buena" which translates to,"living the good life." Of course that was back then. Now that she's older and with the slowdown of the Zona, she hardly gets any customers. But this is all she knows. It's the only real job she's ever had and she's racking her brain now realizing that she's not getting anywhere in life and that things are only going to get worse while the bills keep piling up.

[TomJackin]

Rosarito strip clubs will have higher prices than Tijuana and less of a choice of chicas. Most of the girls have worked in Tijuana (hint hint they know Tijuana pricing) and did not liked the hard core sell and volume hence they end up in Rosarito. Also one bar seems to be the retirement / last stop place for older women that should be out of the business. Remember to negotiate as opening offers are outrageous as Rosarito gets the older gringo with a little money willing overpay.

Hey John,

Thanks for the information about the Rosarito strip clubs. It was a well put together summary.