Medellin Reports

[Nounce]

So your saying that a Verizon phone will work in Colombia with a local SIM card? I heard something different from another poster about this.

I have not used Verizon or Spring for a while so my understanding maybe wrong. If the network support LTE, then it is supposed to work. If the network is 3 G or earlier, then it may not work because Verizon is on CDMA while others are on GSM. If you have a phone that supports both, then it will always work. It is easy to experiment. Borrow an ATT SIM card to try on your Verizon phone to find out.

[Queens35]

Booked my tickets for April 15th. Would like to meet my monger friends. Staying at San Peters for 12 days. Hope there won't be any curfew this time.

Right now, my plan is to be at San Peter also about the same time (April 18) for 4 or 5 days. We'll meet up.

[Mr Enternational]

If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Jane Goodall first coined the term "alpha male" to explain the various male roles within primate communities. It's since been applied to wolves.

Actually the whole beta / alpha business is a false dichotomy.

The guy that did the research with wolves said it was false as well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ti86veZBjU

[Paulie97]

You're really overgeneralizing quite a bit, there are plenty of broke alpha males look at ex cons, bikers et al, and there are very effeminate rich betas ala Bezos Zuckerberg gates.

I have seen doods in SEA mongering that could pass for teen girls, but they are throwing around money, if you go there also don't tell me you have never seen it in Nana or Thermae any day of the week.

Actually the whole beta / alpha business is a false dichotomy. Have a read. Here's an excerpt.

"Taken together, the research suggests that the ideal man (for a date or romantic partner) is one who is assertive, confident, easygoing, and sensitive, without being aggressive, demanding, dominant, quiet, shy, or submissive. In other words, a prestigious man, not a dominant man."

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/art...the_alpha_male

P.S. Sounds like the above quote might fit either Gates or Zuckerberg or both, though I don't know either man.

[Surfer500]

1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.

2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.

3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.

4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level.

5. Some are better at lying than others but they are all very good at it. This is the way they were raised, the drama, the excitement of getting drunk and smoking some dope then allowing the corner boys in their barrio to fuck them raw and hard, so don't never ever think that these are sweet and caring little darlings.

The Tall Man.

My experience base after living in Medellin for three years straight up until the Pandemic is very different than yours, yet from my experience here, I can totally confirm what you are saying, and have never seen a post like yours so succinctly summing up reality here, albeit it won't matter to most.

[Sangnyc21]

Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.

Rich men are definitely not always alphas. Considering many of them enjoy being tied up and beaten up by women.

I knew a woman who specialized in BDSM and was a dom.

At 1500 usd a session I would say all her clients are rich. And she had many.

[MarquisdeSade1]

If there are, as you say, only so many alpha ('rich') males to go around, then there's hope for you to snare a top quality female!

A well known anomaly in the mongering sphere is that most or at least many alpha mongers avoid alpha putas and seek out the beta putas.

Conversely the alpha putas hunt the beta mongers.

You can easily supplant the word alpha for masculine and beta for feminine.

[Surfer500]

I also have 2 Verizon phones, and I use one of them solely for traveling and mongering. I find the $10 per day Verizon charge fairly steep. When I get to Medellin, I put in a local SIM card. The whole thing costs about 20 k cops. Much cheaper.

So your saying that a Verizon phone will work in Colombia with a local SIM card? I heard something different from another poster about this. But for guys with two phones that's very handy not needing to buy another phone in Colombia and get hammered by Verizon for $ 10 USD day. Regardless, my I phone doesn't leave my place, it's my lifeline to the USA, and I have a back-up I phone as well. The biggest issue is losing an American cell phone in Colombia and not being able to get the number back, hence my phones stay locked up, and having two phones, one as your lifeline, and the other as your mongering phone is the way to go.

[Lefeu]

...As far as bringing an unlocked Verizon phone to Colombia, unless you bring a registered Verizon SIM card with you, you won't be able to use the phone, at least that is what Verizon told me, and probably the source of the problem you experienced and a good warning for others but easily solved...

I also have 2 Verizon phones, and I use one of them solely for traveling and mongering. I find the $10 per day Verizon charge fairly steep. When I get to Medellin, I put in a local SIM card. The whole thing costs about 20 k cops. Much cheaper.

[JjBee62]

By your logic do you consider all women to be pros?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/married...merican-group/

Here's a snippet from the article above "At their income peak at age 47, married men earn an average of $86,502 per year, the report found. By comparison, single men who are 47 earn $49,288, not far off from the $45,672 earned by single women of the same age. Married women who are 47, meanwhile, earn almost $51,000. ".

Basically, if you're making median wage and below women aren't trying to date you seriously or looking to get married to you. Whether the woman asks for money up front or on the back end all women care about how much money you make and the lifestyle that you can provide for them.

Maybe you should read my non-pro definition again. After I specifically stated that a relationship isn't part of the equation, you're quoting articles on relationships?

This is about mongering, or to be more correct, recreational sex. It's not about dating, building a relationship, getting married and living happily ever after.

If you're going to Medellin for sex, you're almost exclusively dealing with some variation of a pro. There's a shortage of young, beautiful women seeking casual sex with men, 30+ years older, who don't speak their language. Fortunately, Medellin has a full supply of women willing to fill that shortage for a reasonable price.

To answer your question, I don't consider all women pros.

Back when I was looking for women to date and maybe build a relationship with, I often went to bars. I met a lot of different types of women there. Occasionally a woman would let me know that she would be happy to come home with me, for a price. That would be a pro. Occasionally a woman would let me know that she planned to fuck my brains out. No money, no obligation, just sex. That would be a non-pro.

Of course there were other women, they would let me know they were interested in seeing me again. At some later point, if I followed up, there would be sex, commitment and all the rest. Those women are outside of the classification of pro and non-pro because casual sex (paid or unpaid) is not on the table.

I didn't read the article. Maybe later. However, for the purpose of this forum, it's missing one important number, disposable income. At a combined $138 k annually, how much money is available? Mortgage, often second mortgage, 2 or more car payments, kids, pets, family vacations, insurance, healthcare, kids sports, etc. , how much is left? How many of those married, 47 year old men are flying to Medellin for 10 days of off the charts sex? How many can afford it? How many wish they could be doing that instead of spending another night in front of the TV with their wife?

Back to your conclusion. There seem to be a few billion people who disagree. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many poor people getting married and having kids.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.

You're really overgeneralizing quite a bit, there are plenty of broke alpha males look at ex cons, bikers et al, and there are very effeminate rich betas ala Bezos Zuckerberg gates.

I have seen doods in SEA mongering that could pass for teen girls, but they are throwing around money, if you go there also don't tell me you have never seen it in Nana or Thermae any day of the week.

[Surfer500]

I have been The Tall Man on these boards for going on 20 years, he is The Slender Man, hehehehhe and yes my observations of him along with some friends of friends that know him, all have nothing but good things to say about him, a cool dude.

Shows that no matter our race or size or age we all need good loving!

The Tall Man.

I guess there could be a debate on what handle to give this guy in the event he were to become a board member here. I called him the Jolly Green Giant as he was wearing a green shirt when I saw him, and you want to call him the Slender Man, yet he is taller than you, so shouldn't he be the Taller Man? LOL.

[JjBee62]

Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.

No. Just no.

If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Jane Goodall first coined the term "alpha male" to explain the various male roles within primate communities. It's since been applied to wolves.

If you're a baboon and an alpha male, then you are rich, by baboon standards. If you're a baboon and rich, by baboon standards, you're not by definition an alpha male.

However, it all falls apart when applied to humans. Humans are more independently capable of survival. Humans are not dependent on a seasonal breeding period for procreation. Basically, we're not baboons, although it's often difficult to spot the differences.

If you're trying to say that only wealthy men, and all wealthy men, are alpha males and alpha females (rich females) are only interested in rich men, you are missing an incredible opportunity in the organic fertilizer business, because that is pure bullshit.

Did you miss the news about Jerry Falwell Jr? The rich (alpha) guy who got off watching his rich (alpha) wife fuck the pool boy. Although the pool boy turned the situation to his advantage, he certainly wasn't rich (alpha) when it all began, but she was definitely interested in him. And hanging out in the closet, jerking off while you're wife fucks pool boys and waiters doesn't quite fit the typical alpha male profile.

It's practically a cliche of wealthy women fucking the pool boy or the gardener. How many successful female singers have ended up having affairs with or marrying dancers? Elizabeth Taylor's last husband was a construction worker. Put on "Lying Eyes" by the Eagles while you digest that.

Unfortunately, at least for the guys out there with only money going for them, wealth does not equal alpha. If it does, why are you here? You appear to be saying that every woman in the world wants to be with you, or one of the limited number of your peer group. You should have hundreds of 18-40 (or whatever age you prefer) begging for a free night with you. You should have cards made up that say "My current net worth is $_ You're scheduled to fuck me at __am / pm on _date). " Just fill in the date and time and hand one out to any girl who interests you.

But, the world doesn't work that way, especially not in Colombia. You can spend as much money as you want. That chica from Manrique is still going to be thinking about some hood rat who bums money off her to buy weed. That's something you need to remember. They're fucking me, you and every other gringo to get money to spend on the guy they really want to be with.

The guys who forget that end up with a short, expensive lesson.

[The Tall Man]

Starting the day drinking a bit early, aren't we? Is your life so empty that you have nothing better to do than make up things, attribute them to me and then call me out for something I didn't say? I never mentioned poor men. I never said rich men don't have sparkling personalities. One condition does not exclude the other.

I suppose I need to define all the terms.

Non-pro: A woman who is interested in engaging sexually with a man with no monetary compensation, required relationship or expectation of financial gain.

Maybe that's the part that's confusing you. There are guys here who send girls 4-10 million pesos a month, so the girl will fuck them for the 15 days they visit Colombia, and they call them "non-pro. " There are guys here who pick up a girl somewhere, spend the night with her, give her 500 k to help pay her college tuition and call her "non-pro. " There are guys who spend months buying presents, paying for trips, going shopping and supporting a girl with the intention of marrying her, and she's also "non-pro. " There are even guys who go to Gusto, pick up a girl who flat out tells them she wants $200 and still say she's a "non-pro..

Truer words than this expression have never been stated, which is "the only honest woman is a prostitute" and this is especially true here in Medellin.

I had a discussion with my gringo buddy this morning about this topic and he is finally coming around to the truths about life and culture and women here in Medellin.

So how to enjoy life here in Medellin? It is simple just follow these few basic fundamentals:

1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.

2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.

3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.

4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level.

5. Some are better at lying than others but they are all very good at it. This is the way they were raised, the drama, the excitement of getting drunk and smoking some dope then allowing the corner boys in their barrio to fuck them raw and hard, so don't never ever think that these are sweet and caring little darlings.

Like the expression says the only honest woman is a prostitute and I am at the complete understanding, after so many years here in Colombia, that the only women that I respect are the prostitutes, I love them and their honesty.

And to all you sugar daddy's out there, I have tried talking some sense for over 2 fricken years now and as recently as yesterday, with my good buddy from the States. He comes once every 5 months to Medellin and he has 2 sugar babies, one from Manrique the other from Santo Domingo and he send 3 to 4 million a month to each one. He is doing better because he use to have 3 SB Urrrrrrrrrrr. But despite what I tell him he believes that they both are being true to him. My gawd what has this world come to. I have met both girls and nothing special, both have 2 and / or 3 kids, both late 20's, both he met at the massage casas in centro. Can anyone give me a shout-out as we watch this train wreak in the making! He is returning next week to Medellin.

I have had some who say they want a real honest serious boyfriend, then you learn that they have 2 or 3 kids by 3 different guys, they are mid 20 something and their kids are 10 yo and 7 yo and a newborn baby of 3 months. Go figure.

We love them all!

The Tall Man.

[Mr Enternational]

I suppose I need to define all the terms.

Non-pro: A woman who is interested in engaging sexually with a man with no monetary compensation, required relationship or expectation of financial gain.

Maybe that's the part that's confusing you. There are guys here who send girls 4-10 million pesos a month, so the girl will fuck them for the 15 days they visit Colombia, and they call them "non-pro. "

Once again, the problem is that some guys look at pro as meaning professional. This means all a chick is doing for a living is fucking guys for money. They are seeing non-pro as being short for non-professional and meaning she only fucks guys for money every blue moon. She may be a student or have a normal job. Sometimes guys using the words this way will add civilian to mean a normal chick that does not take money for sex at all. Somehow they also add in semi-pro to mean she fucks for money sometimes, which seems to be the same as their usage of non-pro.

Those have never been my definintions. I have always seen pro as being short for prostitute or someone that exchanges money for sex, no matter how often they do it. I have always considered non-pro to mean non-prostitute, or a chick that does not take money for sex; the same as your definition.