General Reports

[Gregyyr]

This is a very serious charge.

Soliciting arrests will likely go down but other sex crimes, rape, kidnap, murder will likely go up.

https://www.dallasjustice.com/buying...elony-offense/

If demand goes down girls will just go to other states to work which will probably piss off the girls from those areas and maybe the prices will go down in the non-felony states?

I think it's kind of funny that the religious right has Texas by the balls and "everything" that encompasses. It's one thing when they say "no abortion" but many men didn't give a shit as it does not affect them. But now some of the men's lives could get fucked up a bit with this new law. So as much as I hate to see it I think it's good that Texas feels the full weight of the BS laws they pass. Plus maybe it will drive more prostitution demand over the border in Mexico and get some of the money going down there.

Also those folks who claim they just had to move to Texas due to all the issues in CA. They brag a bit how good it is and yet life seems more and more not so great there.

Can't wait to see the next bullshit laws they pass in Texas.

Not trying to trash TX too much as I really like Houston and know several folks who live in that city. But just "saying". Tijuana is looking better and better.

G.

[Cocr Brotheler]

I haven't paid for many sessions in the states in my life nearing 55 years.

When I lived in South Florida in the early 2000's I did a handful of times because could get some nice talent and not too much $$. Then I discovered CR and Colombia and no need for it in US since I don't have to have it very often. Only one time in TX early 2011 and was a chance encounter in an elevator of a nice hotel where the woman asked if she could use my restroom LOL. I was not actively pursuing and she started the negotiations.

Sounds like these Johns all got caught on-line. The article Solo linked mentions if is a first offense and get a good lawyer then can get it dropped from your record but still! Even before upgrade of the offense I just didn't pursue due to not even wanting to be Misdemeanored on my record. I considered SA and SB but too much $$$ and hassle. I wonder what it is like on those sites now?

I'm thinking the recent Johns caught were going onto free or low cost social boards like on "To Catch a Predator" series and actively offering in a predatory manner but who knows?

San Diego/TJ just a 2.5 hour flight away when I can arrange my schedule. Have been thinking of pursuing work in CA to be closer but soon I think they will eliminate negative testing requirement for air travel back to U.S. and is game on for me for more trips south of the border.

[Captain Solo]

This is a very serious charge.

Soliciting arrests will likely go down but other sex crimes, rape, kidnap, murder will likely go up.

https://www.dallasjustice.com/buying...elony-offense/

[Phordphan]

https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/loc...fficking-sting

Can you imagine that caught in the sting? Ruin your job, profession and life, have a felony on your record just for natural urges unmet in US!

They said in the article wouldn't have the human trafficking without the demand (B.S.). Cartels making $ hand over fist bringing whomever person across our southern border for whatever reason. Demand is the overall chance for a better life in U.S. Yes since p-tution illegal in U.S. organized crime gets involved and do take advantage of at risk women.

115 arrested, 100% were men. This says all you need to know. Note that there were ZERO arrests of anybody actually involved in this "trafficking. " These shadowy kingpins, who smuggle and "traffic" these girls all over the country (if you actually believe this) somehow escaped. These noble cops and lawyers rescue these girls, but for some reason the girls never seem to roll over on their traffickers. So, there you have it. If a girl offers sex for money, she's the victim and in need of rescuing. If a man offers, he's a felon.

[The Cane]

https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/loc...fficking-sting

Can you imagine that caught in the sting? Ruin your job, profession and life, have a felony on your record just for natural urges unmet in US!

They said in the article wouldn't have the human trafficking without the demand (B.S.). Cartels making $ hand over fist bringing whomever person across our southern border for whatever reason. Demand is the overall chance for a better life in U.S. Yes since p-tution illegal in U.S. organized crime gets involved and do take advantage of at risk women.

You got that right! Texas is such a BS state, and I would never live there!

[Cocr Brotheler]

Sorry for your bad luck. I have had the opposite experience. I love SA.

Laredo sucks, not sure why you thought it would be good. MTY is great, but is expensive. Hope things get better.

https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/loc...fficking-sting

Can you imagine that caught in the sting? Ruin your job, profession and life, have a felony on your record just for natural urges unmet in US!

They said in the article wouldn't have the human trafficking without the demand (B.S.). Cartels making $ hand over fist bringing whomever person across our southern border for whatever reason. Demand is the overall chance for a better life in U.S. Yes since p-tution illegal in U.S. organized crime gets involved and do take advantage of at risk women.

[Jackie888]

Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.

Yeah. I think that this is a big cultural misunderstanding, and we often wrongly typecast the chicas as gold diggers. It's not just us guys expected to help out the chicas financially. It's also the club chicas expected to give money to their moms, brothers, sisters, cousins, and even friends in distress. And from my personal experience at least, when you decline to help where you can help, they go ape shit. It took me a long time and a lot of misunderstandings to figure the Mexican culture out regarding help etiquette.

[HellBoyX]

Interesting question as I wasn't really aware of "K-agencies" myself but mongered in Asia and of course Mexico. If your driving from LA then I can see where the costs is very comparable when you factor in the hotel etc. But, we are talking apples and oranges here in terms of experiences. In a given night I may only screw one girl, but I talked to many, had drinks, groped them, took them in a private room for private lap dance where I negotiated for her to be totally nude etc. I other girls that I am looking forward to fucking in the future etc, and I learned a bit about Mexico from the girls.

I was able to bounce between 2-3 bars that each have their on flavor of ambiance. Music etc. Sometimes check out a recommended restaurant, at times meet up with a buddy from the forum and exchange mongering experiences.

It really is "the whole enchilada" in Tijuana.

I have met a few Mexican girls I really enjoyed hanging out with and doing a GFE with them would be really nice as well so it's got it's wonderful perks.

Seems you can have your cake and eat it too. Take in some K-Agencies up there and make some trips to Tijuana!

Here is the Post Malone tune that embodies these opportunities..

So here on the East Coast, we have a few K girl agencies that are rather hard to get into initially (lots of personal information required) but once you are in, the experience is great. I live in a major political area, and the going rate is $$$ for an hour. This is actually a bargain, as many of our providers are starting to hit $$ (independents). Its funny how you see inflation creep into the black market well before the regular areas (mostly). Anyways I love Tijuana and the K-Agencies so I feel like if I had the option for 1.60 for a half hour, that would be a great bargain. Just my opinion.

[Big Magick]

Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.

Thanks for the advice everyone and I would never be so crass to just proposition civies like that, even in the zona bars I make sure to talk and flirt with the girl first. I've learned making things less transactional benefits everyone. I get better service and she feels less guilt / shame or whatever about it. I really need to get in better shape so I can hit the nightlife outside of the zona LOL.

[Gregyyr]

Sorry for your bad luck. I have had the opposite experience. I love SA.

Laredo sucks, not sure why you thought it would be good. MTY is great, but is expensive. Hope things get better.

Kudos to the guys on this forum who share their bad learning experiences as it really does help others to make better decisions out there in the mongering world.

We have all made them and while it seems simple to hook up with a prostitute or even hang out in a bar. There are a ton of good and bad decisions that can be made to fuck up your evening or worse.

Thanks for sharing!

G.

[LuvMexicanas]

Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.

A much more eloquent explanation than mine earlier and exactly right, a rose by another name. Well said. I say pros to keep it short because lord knows we have some on the thread you'd swear are being paid per word and yes, you should never just offer money to fuck. It's a less direct culture so you eventually make your way around to assistance, which is why I like to use the expression milk money.

[LuvMexicanas]

So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.

What I'm saying is there are pros in regular bars but more along the lines of chicas having a good time yet won't pass up an opportunity to make some cash. A non-Mexican guy like me in a Centro bar by himself might as well have monger stamped on his forehead. As for process, you make eye contact and then things go where they go. Yes, the sessions are better but not all the time, as I have quite a few former agency chicas saved as contacts from getting their number if they give good service during the initial session through their agency. Many chicas work for an agency just for a week or two until they quickly realize walking into a random guy's room every night is not their cup of tea. I suspect some chicas build up some regulars and only go back to an agency when things dry up and they need to rebuild their clientele.

[Phordphan]

So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.

Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.

[DramaFree11]

Perhaps you can start a boxing school to train pussy-whipped gringos how to deal with their aggressive wives!

Hola Amigos:

As many will recall, I left Cali over a month ago to live and work in San Antonio. Bad idea. Since I moved to San Antonio, I have had nothing but bad luck. This includes getting side swiped in New Mexico by a big rig when two lanes merged into one, working a job that ended up to be a piece of crap labor camp type of employment, getting my front bumper and side panel of my car bashed in by a hit and run idiot at a grocery store. The bar scene in both Nuevo Laredo and Ciudad Acuna totally sucks. I was with a hottie in a bar called Pullmans in Nuevo Laredo. She was going to hang out with me all night and not work as long as I gave her some money for the whole day and night. I got sicker than a dog at one of the bars we went to and told her that I needed to go back to my hotel alone. She got pissed and threatened me, telling me. You leave and don't pay me and you will be very sorry. You will pay big time. This is as she started making calls to god knows who. So I ended up paying her so I didn't get my ass whipped by a band of cartel thugs. So, with this string of bad luck, I have decided to come back home to Cali.

Sorry for your bad luck. I have had the opposite experience. I love SA.

Laredo sucks, not sure why you thought it would be good. MTY is great, but is expensive. Hope things get better.

[Big Magick]

I've picked up chicas in normal bars but the ones I've picked up were not true civvies and instead young single moms out having a good time yet not opposed to making some milk money. That's the sweet spot for me because although pros, not hardened ones and at the same time lines don't get blurred because I'm paying. Just in a stage of my life right now where I just want the booty call as opposed to get caught up in a relationship. As for what Mexican women dream of, I don't know or care.

So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.