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07-31-19 12:25 #515
Posts: 1379Here are some precitions for you:
1. Trump and the Repubs will win in 2020. Then the fun starts.
2. The US economy will be gangbusters through the second Trump term.
3. Ruth Bader Ginsburg will have a stroke and be comatose, but she won't resign. Never mind, Breyer dies and Trump appoints another judge.
4. Anything pending about Immigration hits the Sup Ct and the Trump Admin wins. Plus the Court prohibits nationwide injunctions.
5. Five more states legalize weed.
6. Xi is forced out and China starts playing nice.
7. The Brits join a trade market with the USA, Canada and Mexico.
8. The baht hits 35.
9. I'll be in Thailand 7 months of each year.
Hey is the Intercontinental or the Grand Hyatt girl friendly? I need 6 nights in a hotel before I move in, might as well use the benefits of the Trump economy Looks like the Orange Mussolini is getting me an Elite Visa too, thanks Badger Hair! Keep it up!
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07-30-19 02:28 #514
Posts: 41Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
Fuggin comedy gold.
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07-19-19 08:27 #513
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Here's a discussion of Scarborough making an announcement about him leaving the Republican party in a effort to boost sales for a record he made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-_FRmd7d7c
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07-19-19 07:16 #512
Posts: 5471Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
FOX has always misled its audience in that way. And not only visually, but in words as well. When Hannity and O'Reilly before him touted their ratings, they blasted all other news programming as inferior to theirs because they ere the only "Fair and Balanced" news shows. But call them out on their lies and they retreat to "Oh, we're only an entertainment show, we're just expressing our opinion!"
I appreciate that The Five is an opinion/pundit show on Fox that allows a non GOP voice to be heard and express an opinion, although I still question the motives for presenting "both sides" of verifiable news items. But MSNBC's Morning Joe Show is hosted by a former GOP Congressman who led the charge and voted to impeach Bill Clinton and rarely had a good word for Hillary Clinton. I am sure when he sees or hears Trump doing or saying something positive, he gives him props for it. I have heard him do it. And Maddow always cites the name of the "other side" of an important news item that was invited on her show to give his or her version of it. Sometimes they show up, sometimes they don't.
Btw, the reason MSNBC doesn't have a straight news only show is because their parent company, NBC, already has a national evening news program for that. But Fox does not. There is no Fox Evening News on the regular national Fox broadcast channel at those times. Probably showing Jeopardy or reruns of Hogan's Heroes then. They do not want to be subject to the same standards of scrutiny for credibility as the ABC, CBS and NBC networks. If they were, their national news reports would naturally fly in the face and contradict what is being said about that exact same news item on their cable channel. Awkward.
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07-19-19 06:43 #511
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
But The Five is a pretty good show. I have yet to find any show on the other networks that presents issues with appropriate discussions from both sides like that. If you can name one on CNN like that please let me know. Of course MSNBC won't have one, but that's a given.
I also like the Gutfeld show. It's a comedy, but they come up with some good points on occasion.
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07-19-19 05:45 #510
Posts: 5471Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
That is not what CNN, MSNBC and regular broadcast news services on ABC, CBS and NBC do.
Notice that there is a bug in the lower left corner of the screen telling the viewer that what they are watching is "NEWS" through every one of those pundit/opinion programs 24/7.
The other channels don't do that. They just identify their channel with their call letters and do not insist you take everything you see and hear on every program to be ABC NEWS, CABLE NEWS or anything of the kind.
But that isn't what FOX NEWS does when they could simply place FN in the lower left corner of the screen as its channel call letters.
That decision was, imo, an obvious a early Roger Ailes concept designed to mislead viewers with an ever present lie placed on their tv screen.
And I guess I am puzzled why Real News needs to be given "both sides" unless there is an interest in promoting and elevating some lie or falsehood as equal to the reportable facts. FOX NEWS' biggest audiences are watching shows being promoted as NEWS that will likely never report much negative news about their favorite GOP figures, even when it is rather unprecedented news. And if they can't avoid it, there will be some noodnik there with no facts but only a rabid opinion that everyone else is lying as though that is an admirable effort to present "both sides" to credible, verified facts.
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07-19-19 04:22 #509
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by Goatscrot [View Original Post]
I like watching "The Five" on foxnews. I liked The Five better when Kimberly Guilfoyle was on there (hotty), but it's still a light hearted way of reporting and debating the news and I enjoy that. It sounds like you would like Shephard Smith.
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07-18-19 18:43 #508
Posts: 3682Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
We live in a post-truth world.
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07-18-19 12:57 #507
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I find these types of interviews and debates interesting because they actually present both points of view. A channel like CNN never presents the conservative point of view in an educated manner.
Munk debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxYimeaoea0
Politicon debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2SDFwu_JR8
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07-18-19 08:19 #506
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I am apolitical although one cannot but be disgusted by the behavior and values of some individuals who get elected to the highest ranks of public office.
ET I feel when discussing consequences of a particular event it is prudent to leave political partisanship out of the discussion as it clouds sound reasoning. I may be wrong but in your somewhat not easy to follow post it seems that you are blaming Bush and the republicans for the shenanigans of Monday Sept 29 when in fact the bill failed to pass because a third of the democratic members of the house voted against it. Don't forget they held the majority after the 2006 midterms 233 to 202.
It was only 2 days to the Wednesday when the senate passed the bill at which time it was generally accepted with the revisions the house would pass it too.
While some details were changed the objective of the bill remained the same to put a floor under the financial system to stop it from collapsing altogether with the ensuing possibility of another great depression.
Was what happened in this relatively small time frame in a crisis which had been brewing for months and months on end, years if you go back to the beginning of the housing collapse the cause of the subsequent fall in stock markets worldwide?
On that ET we will have to agree to disagree.
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07-18-19 07:09 #505
Posts: 5471Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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07-18-19 04:22 #504
Posts: 5471Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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07-18-19 04:12 #503
Posts: 5471Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
That assumption came to a shocking halt on Sept. 29,2008. It doesn't matter that 3-4 days later Bush and his fellow Republicans came out and said, "Hey, folks, come on back! We were only kidding. We'll pass it this time, no kidding." Once panic sets in and the mob is racing for the exits, you don't reel them back in with immediate, largely improvised do-overs. Fed Chairman Paulson had been working since early 2008 on that bailout. Due diligence was baked in the market for why it was on the table for a vote and what it would likely mean. That quickly cobbled together do-over 3-4 days later, was not the same bill. Changes had been made in as much of a panic as the stock market investors running for the exits. And nobody thought this one legislation is all we'll need to pull us out of this crisis. It was merely the first one. There would be others. And more "shenanigans" when their time came? No thanks. I'm OUT.
It required a complete change in the political make-up of the Federal Government, replacing the one party well known throughout decades and decades of history for presiding over major economic declines and stock market crashes with the one that is as well known for pulling us out of them. In fact, the "shenanigans" did not even end from that former side. At virtually every step of the follow up measures required to pull us out of the Great Recession and get the stock market back on track for historic gains, the "shenanigans" side slow-walked, obfuscated, delayed, denied, blocked and obstructed them. It is one of the reasons this particular Dem recovery from a Rep decline was slower than the others. So, in a very real sense, the mob that ran for the exits in a panic starting Sept. 29,2008 and did not believe the calls to "come back, everything will be ok" 3-4 days later had it right as long as the Federal Government was in that side's control.
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07-17-19 15:21 #502
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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07-17-19 14:32 #501
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMzJsw3eFRQ
CNN fake Muslim protests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1gR37Wwakw
Top 4 reasons CNN is called fake news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igfW_ogd0ZM
Top 10 fake news of 2016.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REPFH2V_EYo
How about the current one where the Dems are calling Trump a racist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCkt57w3Uu0
ABC fakes crime scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwIkknxE8E
This one just makes me laugh since Don Lemon is such a hypocrite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LulNAEeTsrc
NBC blows up truck for fake news story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fslEpQGw0M