Tokyo

Went to Sugamo for the first time since there were no more happy times to be found in good old Seiki. I went with the goal of getting 2 shots off, everytime I've been to seiki, I psypched myself out after my first load and couldnt get myself to go for the second shot. Usually I end up giving my self an excuse like the second girl is too ugly, or fat (Which usually turns out to be the case), or sometimes I think they look like men. Man that freaks me out, does that happen to anyone else? Anyways my goal was 2 this time.I followed instructions given in past, got off the Sugamo exit off JR. (Sometimes the adventure of finding the place is better than when I finally get into the shop). I thought I had the directions clear but seemed to have found another place not mentioned in previous posts. Went towards the pachinko parlors, walking with them on my right, go straight across the street, next intersection is a T going only left or right. Turning right you will notice restaurants on the left side and 2 shops on the right with 1 man infront of each marketing their place. Chose the first one since he mentioned "young" girls, not into the 40+. I think both shops go up stairs. Was a Thursday nite, had about 4 rows of 4-5 small sofas each. I paid 7K I guess this is the after 7pm rate and was showed to the second row all the way front. There was a little round mirror (the ones used for intersections) above so I could see some of the action all over. Wait a few minutes and then a girl comes, looks and body not too bad. Chat a few minutes then takes of clothes and straddles me, mentions nipples are soar and then tries to kiss. I shake my head for no, and she understands, sits besides me, lies across me and takes my member in her mouth. I'm nervous as this is the first time I've been in this one, and I'm also replaying what she mentioned to me earlier about the program (after I told her this was my first time). I'm asian but my japanese is not so good and I think she mentioned 3 girls, and then possibly the first girl comes back at the end. Shit was this supposed to mean that I can't blow my load first. Well these thoughts didnt help, either did my baseball thoughts. After 5 minutes I felt that feeling, ahhh you know that feeling. Should I tell her to stop, should I tell her I'm about to, to. Oh ahhh blew it. Anyways she keeps sucking, taking out every drop, so I guess I didnt do the wrong thing. She wipes me, spits and then says something about since I blew my load I guess she wasnt comming back. She also says that she now notices my japanese is not so good, and mentions that the yakuza boss usually don't let in gaijing (sorry to all the non asians, if you look asian, don't say too much to the tout in the front, just nod head if you can get a way with that). I told her that I was actually Japanese American, I guess thats ok with her. I'm trying to talk to her but am thinking, did she mention 3 girls? Yes I think she did. Cool I thought. And she gets up and goes to the front. Funny thing also, there are 2 guys in the front who clap loudly to the music, how funny, I'm getting a BBBJCIM with 4-5 other guys doing the same, disco ball spinning with lights and 2 guys clapping us on. What a strange place.Pt 2 comming later.

Jon:I don't think any of the women who worked there looked like men. However, there was at least one man that that worked there that tried to pass as a woman but with little success. They tried sending him to service me once. There was a little bit of a fight to get them to send me an ugly but real woman to me... Jeeze, those were the days!

Big JP,Do you come to Malaysia too for orgies?

Back in Tokyo, noticed Seiki 21 looked dark and Otamuro (spelling) might be gone as well. Anyone know where there are gaijin friendly BJ bars to hit. Also, staying at a hotel in the city. Do the Messages you order from the hotel provide any extras? Sorry to be naive or out to lunch, but it ain't Thailand.Thanks

Sorry, I meant to say massages that you order inside your hotels.Thanks

[quote=speedopunk]jon: i don't think any of the women who worked there looked like men. however, there was at least one man that that worked there that tried to pass as a woman but with little success. they tried sending him to service me once. there was a little bit of a fight to get them to send me an ugly but real woman to me. jeeze, those were the days! [/quote]i hate when that happens.pt2.after the girl left (i'm always bad with names but will make an effort so my posts can be more helpful), i had a chance to check out more of what was going on around me. a guy was already sitting on the couch directly on my left. i guess the way everything works, the girl comes over, sits, small talk, clean jr. , she gets naked and then straddles guy. kissing, and then the girl stands on the couch and lets the guy eat her out, i noticed as i looked around i could see a few girls standing on couches doing the same, then she gets down and finishes with bbbj.anyways i'm still trying to stay focused about my second and possibly 3rd pop. but i suffer from this problem, something like beer goggles, the hornier i am the more good looking the girls become, but once i blow my load i suddenly get sobber and see everything more clearly, and thoughts about what i'm doing in a sketchy place, my bare ass on a couch that has probably had 20 other nasty bare asses on it just today. etc. does this happen to anyone else?anyways i'm focused, watching scenes around and girl #2 comes. suprise, shes not that bad, we start talking and i'm still trying to talk my self up. well when she finally asks me to take down my pants i chicken out and give an excuse of being too tired from the first time. she asks if i am sure a few times, then waves to the guy in back who comes over and asks too. i confirm, he takes little towels, leaves and girl #2 and i sit and talk. shes actually happy about this (you can imagine why? ).well, once psyched out its hard for me to go back so after chatting with both the 2nd and 3rd girl time is up and i leave. another failed mission, but hey always got another day to try. in all not too bad, at least i got a bbbjcim from a pretty cute girl with sore nipples while being clapped on.on another note, anyone else out there suffer from this one shot libido thing that i seem to suffer from? i know its a mind thing but does anyone have solutions to similar problems? would love to hear about them.jon

This is why I'm looking for. I am totally fed up with sugamo and its ugly girls, and I miss Seiki 21 and Utamaro so much.. I haven't heard of hinomaru in shinjuku, any one know about it?Definitely looking for a multiple-pop place.Thanks much much,Yoroshiku onegai shimasu

[QUOTE=Member #3882]This is why I'm looking for. I am totally fed up with sugamo and its ugly girls, and I miss Seiki 21 and Utamaro so much.. I haven't heard of hinomaru in shinjuku, any one know about it?Definitely looking for a multiple-pop place.Thanks much much,Yoroshiku onegai shimasu[/QUOTE]Do an "advanced search" on the Japan forums for keyword "hinomaru" and show posts (not threads). You will find about 30 posts on Hinomaru in Shinjuku (Kabukicho). Hinomaru is a a "one pop" place as far as I know.V.

Viagrant,Thanks for the information. But I am willing to find a bbbj (cim) - multiple - pop - place. Were seiki21 and utamaro the only places?If there is anything left, I'd appreciate some information about a possible 3-pop place in sugamo (never experienced by myself), what I have to know about girls, age, good-looking, rate, serviceFinally, I have never found a place where I could get 2 girls at the same time. Anything about it?Thank you

I always need about 40 minutes to recharge my batteries. I don't know why or how but after blowing load #1 nothing will make me hard until about 35-40 minutes have passed then "boing" I've got a flag pole, ready to roll.Unfortunately having your timer set 40 minutes apart means your are only going to get 1 shot in at most pay 4 play places. Oh well. 2 X 4[QUOTE=Jon246]I hate when that happens.On another note, anyone else out there suffer from this one shot libido thing that I seem to suffer from? I know its a mind thing but does anyone have solutions to similar problems? Would love to hear about them.Jon[/QUOTE]

My experience is that you get as many non-FS pops as time will allow, especially if you have a multi-gal session.One-on-one, some gals have been surprised I've pushed them for a second round, but as the first one is usually done in the first 15 minutes, it's not hard (pun intended) to recover for a second.Just remember 60 mintues of play (in a hotel or private room) means:5-10 minutes undressing/washing/intro/tea/beer40 minutes of play,10 minute bell-time to washup and get dressedA 30 minute session give you just 15 minutes of play usually.BJ bars where you just sit down and drop them tend to give more play time, but less intimacy.As a youngster multiples in a night were the norm, but now age has put a limit of about 2-3 on an extended session.

I seem to have had a bit of luck lately with non-Japanese pickups in Roppongi. As previously posted here, I met a Filipino girl at a club in Roppongi. She wanted money for the first time we met, but second time was just cab fare. She stood me up for a subsequent meeting, so I went back to the same club and found another girl there. This time she was Malaysian working in Japan. She wanted money for the first night, but like the first one, agreed to meet again for just cab fare. I really can't offer much advice on how to convert from a P4P to essentially a freebie, other than just treat them really nice and talk to them. Both of these girls are in their early 20's and I am over 50, but still decent looking. I am still talking to the first one. She gave an outwardly good excuse as to why she did not show, so I am keeping the dialogue open and will let her make another appearance next trip. She promises to make up for the last time. Of course I will keep a back-up plan ready.I have also been dabbling with the internet trying to meet Japanese girls. I find that sort of like fishing. You cast out and never quite know what you might catch. This last trip I had a few hours in the mornig before I left and had been talking with a nice 24 year old black British girl who lived in Tokyo. Somehow I managed to talk her into coming to see me in the morning before I left. Well, that ended up in a really nice session and she is totally non-working girl. I didn't even need cab fare for her, she comes by subway. Actually of the three, the non-working girl is really the nicest, but as always, with non-working girls, the problem is emotions. They want to know that you are there for them emotionally and not going to fool around. Obviously for someone that is on this board, that is a hard thing to do. But I am keeping my options open and will see what happens next trip.

For all of the geniuses and veterans, I'm deferring to your experience here...I went out for a look near the love hotels, and on the top of one of the roads, a hot one was crying her eyes out, due to her hook up ripping off her iPod. I consoled her, had a chat in my fractured Japanese and cheered her up and we're planning to get together this weekend.I'm just wondering if anyone had a similar experience. It feels genuine, and I trust the J Girls, having dated a bunch and adore them to death..but, call me paranoid to see if someone's on the make or if it's a ruse for a P4P. Thanks GL2, who has a bizzare name.

[QUOTE=Member #3882]Viagrant,Finally, I have never found a place where I could get 2 girls at the same time. Anything about it?Do not know about Tokyo (if somebody knows please post!), but in OSAKA for sure: Hadaka-no-Osama. Its in UMEDA area, center of OSAKA. With 12.000 you can choose the Harem course. Its a clean and gaijin-friendly place, ([url]www.hadakano-ousama.com[/url]) check out the OSAKA thread.TJ

I've been frequenting one video box in Shibuya for a long time now. It used to be called Dolphin and is now called Olive. It's near Book 1st and the girls there are always cute and always give fantastic service. The price went up a little recently, so I decided to try another place.Suika no tane is by the JR line, behind the Marui buildings near Hachiko exit. It's 7000 for the oral relief option. I've now tried it 4 times and been let down every time. The first time the girl didn't have the skill to get me off, the second time too much handiwork had me splurting before we got to the BJ, and the last two times, they've insisted on using this god-awful condom thing which just kills the whole experience. It's more like a rubber bag, and it is loose and floppy. It is supposed to be put over the penis like a sock is put on your foot, rather than being rolled on like a regular condom. But it doesn't work and gets stuck. Both times this has happened and both times the girls gave up and I ended up with a handjob instead. In other words, if you want relief in this place, don't bother paying extra for the BJ because you won't get one.Suika no tane does have a rather interesting selection of videos however, including some non-mosaic bestiality! I'll be going back to Olive next time though, or seek another place.