I'll be in Berlin in the beginning of June for a week. Staying on the Ku'damm. What action is nearby? Any recommendations of some place close by the metro? Thanks
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I'll be in Berlin in the beginning of June for a week. Staying on the Ku'damm. What action is nearby? Any recommendations of some place close by the metro? Thanks
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[QUOTE=Dave Lamd]I'll be in Berlin in the beginning of June for a week. Staying on the Ku'damm. What action is nearby? Any recommendations of some place close by the metro? Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Styles]Hi,
From your name I assume you are from India. I have been there and done that, but this is impossible in Berlin. If you are not good at picking up girls, forget this. They are not interested in staying with you. You can get good sex, but you have to pay by the hour/ half hour. In that you have a wide range.[/QUOTE]
Three days might be impossible with bordello girls listed here, but if you use escort agencies it should not be a problem. I made a report a month or two ago about higher end agencies and Angus saved it in Reports of Distinction.
[QUOTE=Worldbank]One of my friends has recently been to Berlin and he is a guy who already naturally is good in picking up girls (without paying for them), but what he told me about Berlin. That's crazy!
He told me about the Berlin club-scene that you in a lot of big clubs but according to him it's almost like one big orgy, especially in the gothic & alternative clubs, that is is allowed to have sex in clubs and that they have special areas in the clubs where people have sex. According to him girls in Berlin are really extremely open-minded and sexually open.
Okay, this might be true, BUT are they really so open-minded as he described me?
So, is it a fairy tale or is it partially true?[/QUOTE]
Maybe you can find some clubs like that, but they are fetish clubs, as Angus noted. Otherwise it's not so easy I think, unless you have low quality standards. There are a couple of clubs / bars where you can get the working girls after they finish work and want to go drinking on weekends. The main one is First Club (maybe difficult entry if you dont dress smart and look like the girls will be interested in you or like you will spend 100s of €). Harry's New York Bar is known for this too and is really one of the only places in Berlin where you will feel uncomfortable without at least a sport coat. Also Newton Bar and Universum Lounge are probably worth a look for higher end freebies or part-time pros, but it's really hit and miss.
Hello, guys,
Being back in Berlin in early May for one week, almost a year after my last visit, I went to try the experiment of brothels. Your detailed posts have helped me choose my destinations (especially Angus posts), and I had in mind to go to Monrouge, Royal and KD. I was very pleased with this turn of events.
Firstly, Monrouge and Royal are quite similar, located in beautiful buildings, quiet neighbourhoods, their entrance is discrete, which is a positive element, being a bashful guy.
So, in my third night, way to MR, with a clear idea of my choice (I spotted three or four girls through their website, including Melissa and Adriana, and exchanged emails to their presence known)
Melissa (MR) from Romania: after ringing the bell and climbed on the first floor, I am greeted by a young hostess who takes me into a room and wonder if I have a girl that I want specifically. From my choices, only Melissa was there, and I thought to myself "lucky boy" when she entered the room, I realized she was even prettier in real life (she's really my type of girl, I like brunettes). I chose 45 minutes (100 euros + extra kisses) and I showered. After a brief discussion and then a massage, the session is started (BJ and sex), and it was a good time. She's really beautiful (it's my opinion), very sweet, she has a pretty face, a nice body, a cute smile, and I like her smell. The session ended, I left happy but also sad it's over (I would have stayed longer).
Jette (Royal): next evening, same situation (ringing, going upstairs), the hostess asks me who I want to see (I don't remember what the girls here, by the website, except Dareen but she's not there). Then, 3 girls come into the room (a big room decorated), one by one, and I chose Jette, pulpy with brown hair, because she seemed very smiling and pleasant, for 45 minutes (100 euros + extra kisses) including the shower. And it was a great GFE, because she's enthusiastic. And, despite the language barrier (she speaks mostly German), we exchanged a few words. So, Jette is lovable and great kindness, she's a funny girl.
Melissa (MR), one more time: while my objective was to go to KD, I haven't resisted too see Melissa again (I admit I thought about her a lot). So, destination MR, and luckily she's there, I didn't regretted. I chose the same length of session. After offering her a drink, we have much discussed. I was happy to have talked with her, even if the sex session was shorter. I like her very much (I think I like everything about her). So, I was sadder to leave.
Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.
One of you has he been in that case?
Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?
Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)
The Kid
[QUOTE=Kid Logy]
Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.
One of you has he been in that case?
Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?[/QUOTE]
Hi KL
Well...I could write a book about this. Actually, I am writing a book. Not specifically about falling for sps but the topic will certainly be included.
Briefly-as I see it this is part of the landscape. When you visit these girls a lot you are bound to come across one or two who stimulate the "love" chemicals in the brain. But one has to remember that for them it is a job. They might like you, even develop a certain affection for you if you are a repeat customer. But it is still a job for them. My best advise is to allow yourself the feelings but have no illusions about them being fully returned. And try not to lose your head over a working girl. These girls are working in an industry that basically sells illusion. Nothing wrong with illusion but if you try to grasp it in anyway it will disappear in a puff of smoke.
Nothing in this world is impossible. But making the leap from customer to bf (if that is what you want) comes under the heading of highly improbable. The way I have dealt with it mostly is to just visit the girl for as long as it seemed relevant and then stop. But in a couple of cases it was not nearly as neat as that.
If nothing else, heart ache is good for the soul.
AM
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi KL
Well...I could write a book about this. Actually, I am writing a book. Not specifically about falling for sps but the topic will certainly be included.
Briefly-as I see it this is part of the landscape. When you visit these girls a lot you are bound to come across one or two who stimulate the "love" chemicals in the brain. But one has to remember that for them it is a job. They might like you, even develop a certain affection for you if you are a repeat customer. But it is still a job for them. My best advise is to allow yourself the feelings but have no illusions about them being fully returned. And try not to lose your head over a working girl. These girls are working in an industry that basically sells illusion. Nothing wrong with illusion but if you try to grasp it in anyway it will disappear in a puff of smoke.
Nothing in this world is impossible. But making the leap from customer to bf (if that is what you want) comes under the heading of highly improbable. The way I have dealt with it mostly is to just visit the girl for as long as it seemed relevant and then stop. But in a couple of cases it was not nearly as neat as that.
If nothing else, heart ache is good for the soul.
AM[/QUOTE]Hello Angus,
It’s funny, I often write (stories, novels, and even scenarios movies), but it’s a hobby which gives me insomnia, despite my daily job.
Sometimes, may be, I’m a romantic guy, but I can’t control my feelings, and there is the problem. What makes me sad is that I don’t live Berlin, and I can’t be a regular customer. Even if I’m able to make a long journey from France to see Melissa again, regardless of the costs. I don’t when I’ll come back in Berlin, may be in few months. If I have opportunity, why not give her a gift (flowers, chocolate, I don’t know), just for gratification to do it, and for showing I like her very much. I make no illusions to become her boyfriend, it’s an unrealizable dream.
Cheers, and thanks for your insight.
[QUOTE=Kid Logy] If I have opportunity, why not give her a gift (flowers, chocolate, I don’t know), just for gratification to do it, and for showing I like her very much.[/QUOTE]
If I like a girl and have a good connection I will often bring her little gifts of chocolate or something. Funny thing is (and this has happened to me) it can back fire. One girl I had a big old crush on started doing things like giving me her private number and giving indications that she was interested in an outside meeting. After a few wrong turns though, and much heart ache for old Angus, it came out that she was just doing this as she felt she had to as I was being so nice to her. And obligated (her perception) contact is much worse than no contact at all IME.
All water under the bridge now and fodder for further tales. One thing to remember is that romance has the same root as your French word for "novel"="roman". Thus there is always a great deal of fiction in the story we tell ourselves about love. I always try not to take these things all that seriously as serious is the death knell of romance. Maybe that is why I like p4p so much?
[QUOTE=Kid Logy]Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.
One of you has he been in that case?
Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?
Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)
The Kid[/QUOTE]I have had recently a disturbing experience in this field, but with the reverse orientation.
There is a girl with whom I developed a rapport over a period, and the result was a series of sensational sex sessions over a period of months. I like her a lot, but I am a arch cynic in these matters and I could never conceive of myself falling for a girl who is, essentially, fucking me in return for money. 'Illusion' is absolutely the name of the game, and I am firmly resolved not to confuse it with reality.
We exchanged mobile numbers, mainly so that I could establish when she would be in town and to coincide at Artemis. As time went on, it became apparent that she had something of a thing for me. She repeatedly would tell me that she loved me and wanted to be with me. I had a myriad of offers to come and stay with her and meet her across Germany, without payment of course. Naturally, my first reaction was that I was being 'played', and that her professions of love were intended to cement her position as my preferred SP. I refused to delude myself that a 'working girl' could genuinely fall for a punter, especially a nondescript forty-something geezer of indeterminate looks such as myself.
Eventually, I became obliged to accept that this girl had genuinely fallen for me, however unlikely the case. I can't prove it in an empirical way, but I know that it's genuine. I have never given her any encouragement to suppose that my feelings for her extend beyond a preference for her as a sex partner, but the persistence in her affection led me to conclude that she had really fallen for me (god knows why!)
This engendered a problem for me that I haven't been able to properly resolve as yet. I feel bad for her. I am attached and unavailable, and in any event I would never form a relationship with a SP. Now I have to deal with her at Artemis in a delicate way. I still session with her when I see her there, but I spend most of my time trying to avoid her. Not because I don't still enjoy sex with her, but because I like her too much to take advantage of her infatuation with me.
Some of these girls are in relationships; some are even married. The majority of them however are alone, and somewhat vulnerable. Fucking 50 guys a week can play havoc with their emotional well-being. Just as many guys make the mistake of becoming emotionally attached to a pro, so do the girls very occasionally also become confused. Clearly this girl had failed to appreciate that the sexual chemistry between us was just that. Sexual attraction. Sure I liked her as well, but love?!!
I suspect that my prognosis will attract derisory responses that I'm kidding myself and that she's just been trying it on with me to see how fat my wallet is, but I assure you that I am not the type to delude myself in these matters.
The moral of the story to my mind is to ensure that one never gets too close to these girls, for their sake as well as one's own. Much better to maintain a respectful emotional distance, otherwise things get messy and somebody gets hurt.
Be careful out there, and enjoy the P4P scene for what it is, but if you want to fall in love then look elsewhere.
Charlie
Here is a report on three days in Berlin as thanks for the help this forum has given me.
Caligula
Caligula has received some criticism and doubts have been expressed about the place. I agree with those who question just what kind of service you can receive when taking advantage of the "30 euro for 30 minutes" offer. That was my question too, so I decided to take one for the team and go.
I was there twice in two days. Both were afternoon visits. For 30 euroes you get a red token with '30' written on it, and once you're in you simply go up to any girl on stage and hand her the token. She then takes you to a room, and the fun begins for 30 minutes.
Like I said I was there twice. Once on Friday for a normal 30 minute fun-ride with a Polish girl from Gdansk, 22 years old, slim, brown eyed, firm in all the right places and very good at what she does. Service was impeccable. She gave a great BJ (only with condom-she offered no extras, though extras are advertised in the room with prices and everything). And she gave a great performance of looking into my eyes, moaning at the right time, and cleaning me up afterwards. After sex we just lay naked on the bed at chatted until the half hour was gone. She was even fishing for me to ask her out the next day, as she was off work in the weekends, and had nothing to do. Had Saturday not been my last day, I would have definitely gone for it. She really was very sweet looking.
Second time was Saturday. I decided to go for a double header. Got two '30' tokens and chose two girls for a delightful half hour with more girl parts than I knew what to do with. I paid each a 10 euro extra for the BJ to be BBBJ. So get this, it's a total of 80 euroes for 30 minuttes with two girls who will do what you ask, and both give a BBBJ. That price cannot be beat! Got 10 minutes of BBBJ from the first (Rumanian, blond, about 30, small, very attractive body, so-so face, wears white lingeri) while I kissed the other on her breasts and ass, and then asked them to switch. Then after five minutes I got a condom on, then fucked the Rumanian blond for 6 or 7 minutes. And while I am doing this, she rolls over as much as she can, and starts kissing the other girl and licking her breasts. It took all I had to not come right then and there, but I still needed to fuck the second girl. So I switched condoms, and went for the second one. No hurry, the Rumanian still kissed and licked the girl I was with and she rolled around to a position so I could fuck one girl, and lick her pussy at the same time. Eventually I asked the Rumanian to get behind me, so that way I could fuck the girl on the bed, but have my hands behind my back feeling the other girls ass. All the while I was doing this the Rumanian girl was just laughing and smiling, having almost as good a time as me.
So all in all, Caligula for me gets a thumbs up. I haven't tried the entry fee and stay all day thing there, so can't say anything about the pressure for girls drinks. But the three girls I met were eager to please and certainly not upselling in any way.
King George
I went to King George my first night in Berlin. Sounded good on the forum, and I was not disappointed. There were, when I arrived on Thursday at about 20:00, nine girls and three men there. The girls were 1 undoable, 3 ok's, and 5 absolutely's. Not bad quality at all.
I paid 99 euro's and had sex with three girls in 4 hours. Each girl's service was great, though Polish Petronella and Austrian Klaudia deserve an extra mention. They were fantastic. Petronella, tall Polish girl with a killer body and sweet smile, has only been there 2 weeks, and was all over me. Total GF experience, apart from the lack of kissing.
Klaudia (well known on the forum) is a fun girl who likes to play, and if she likes you she will give you small kisses while flirting and fucking after you get to the room.
The last was a girl from the Dominican. She did try to upsell a girl drink, 25 euro, and then 10 euro to go DATY, but even though I rejected all she still gave me good service.
I would have had sex with the last to really attractive ones, but by 1 o'clock the place was getting crowded. I counted 25 men at one point, and still 9 girls. That isn't all bad, but it does get busy, and frankly I don't have the conscience to go ask a girl to go to a room when she just got out of one. So I decided to leave. Many men seem to go there for just one or two girls in 3 hours, however. So a lot of men isn't necessarily bad, but I would recommend showing up on a weekday at 18 o'clock. You will have a great time!
All BJ is covered, and the other girls have no problem with DATY at all. There are no extras and no BBBJ.
Overall an excellent place to spend an entire evening. Drinks include beer, soda, and alcohol like Jim Beam and mixers, and the girls are fun. Only bad thing: The music. It's half Rumanian half whatever and annoying as heel. The funny thing is, the girls want to start a party. Its like there is nothing that would please them more than for the men to join in the fun and dance around, but the music is impossible to get into for most people. I am 36 and love music, but I just could not dance to the kind of music they play.
L'amour
Tried to go early, but alas it was too early. They open at 13. So I didn't get to go. There is a small more seedy place right next door which is open at at least 11 in the morning. It was open when I was there, but I didn't go in as I had been hoping to get a beautiful girl (Susanne) at L'amour, and couldn't really imagine a girl of that class being in the place next door.
KFS40
I went passed there to check the prices and quality. At 3 in the afternoon there were only two girls there, and one looked like a Russian bowling champion. The other was a small, slim, dark (egyptian?) girl. She looked okay, but not my type. I was greeted with smile but when I said no thanks, the smile disappeared quickly. The black woman who had let me in was obviously pissed. It was 35 euroes for 20 minutes, but I excused myself and went to Caligula.
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I finally got a chance to try the Villa Rascona again. It's just off of Kufurstendam, not far from Adenauer platz. It's a whole private house and very elegant. You'll need to be well dressed because when they open the door they can decide whether or not you can go in. Once inside there are two bars downstairs and a sort of lounge area next to one of the bars with big sofas where you can sit and talk.
Both times i've been only one was open. Entry is 30€ which includes one drink. Next drinks are 20€. When you walk in some girls will immediately come to talk to you. For going in the room it's pretty expensive: 30min - 180€, 45min 255€, 60min 335€ The 45min and 60min prices include a half or whole bottle of champagne (whole bottle for 60min). The girl I was with told me a bottle is 250€ so the room + bottle is a good deal. I said so the bottle is 250€ and the girl 5€, she said nooooo... the girl is 250€ and the bottle is 5€. :-) However, I think the clock starts from the moment you get the bottle, but maybe that can be negotiated.
I was there very late on a Wednesday night and there were 2 German girls about 25yo and 30yo, One tall hot Hungarian, about 23yo, a Polish, about 35 and a Czech about 45. One guy had the younger German and the Hungarian with him when I walked in so I talked to the 30yo German who had a 7/10 face an a nice body. She was trying to get me to buy her a drink, but I resisted and finally i went for the 30min since she was non-stop touching and talking. So, went upstairs to the big room and had a very nice time. Upstairs she did kissing and cbj, but every position and lots of enthusiasm. She was probably one of the top 2 i've met in Berlin. 7.5/10 looks, 9.5/10 performance
When I went out I just went back into the lounge and sat down to finish my drink (needed to rest after the non stop upstairs) and the two younger girls came around and sat on both sides of me asking if I wanted two more girls. They were quite upset with the guy who had kept them for an hour or so drinking or talking downstairs but never chose one to go up. I was not so happy either because I wanted to try that Hungarian. Maybe next time!
So you guys who are thinking that you could get 3 cheaper girls for that price. Well you are right you can. But in my experience, most of those cheaper girls will be at least 2 times less satisfying, if only because they are all worn out, especially in places like Liberty or Artemis where they meet 10 guys per day. Other guys who prefer something a bit more exclusive and upscale will probably really like the Villa Rascona.
Therefore, I'm a bit disturbed, because I have feelings for her.
One of you has he been in that case?
Have you had experiments in which you were like if you fall in love?
Finally, I long to come back in Berlin (I don't know when)
The Kid[/QUOTE]
Some years ago, 2006, I went to a club in Berlin and almost immediatly after I came in I saw a very young girl - in fact she was just 18 - who tried desperatly to get rid of a fat Frankenstein, standing behind her seat and touching her without any permission. Of course I reacted like John Wayne : I took the seat beside her and faked a long time appointment. Successfully - Frankenstein disappeared. "Cora" and I had some drinks and a very nice and funny "session" ( extended version, directors cut), and this was the beginning of a long friendship.
Cora gave me her mobile-number, so when I had to go to Berlin I could ask her for a meeting. And soon I realized that I had more than the usual feelings - I surely was a little bit in love with her. At least. Being younger than unfortunately I am I would have asked to her to live with me in Denmark. Almost certainly she would have refused. But after a while she didnt want to take my money any more. So I looked for presents : a ring, a bracelet, some nice lingerie or dresses...
She used to pick me up in my hotel. We had dinner together, several times we went to the "Staatsoper", listening to Barenboim and his crew, we did a lot of talking about arts, philosophy, politics and history. And of course we had sex in the night. Cora was a beauty - intelligent, cultivated, tender. Today she is a student at "Freie Universität". She stopped escorting when she found her husband ( who ignores completely her activities before), but we still meet sometimes for a cup of coffee.
After all : I think the girls we meet in this kind of business are quiete normal. They do what they do for economic reasons. And as for moral : I certainly prefer to blame some bankers...
Hello Kid
You have the web from this site (Melissa, Jette).
I travel next month to Berlin, but its my first time.
thank you!
Dear fellow mongers:
Had some time to spare in Berlin, and initially wanted to try a different venue when I was told no-one was available there (Casanova); so I assessed my options, and decided to mosey on over to Harmonie (harmoniemassagen dot de). What a lucky draw! I opted for an hour with Mandy, a true Berliner in her early 20ies. We went off to a remote room in the building, reminiscent of an African Safari lodge. After I was shown a laminated menu (!) outlining all my options and rates, Mandy filled the jacuzzi, and we enjoyed our mutual company in the warm bubbles before relocating to the four-poster bed for some more B2B massage, rubbing and tugging, and a very pleasant time together.
We finished with a great footjob, but I am keen to try other side orders that were promised on the menu Harmonie would provide.
In conclusion, a very relaxing, professional and yet sensual experience. The location on Rigaer Strasse is a bit dodgy at night, but the proximity to the U-Bahn (Frankfurter Tor) makes arrival and departure by public transport easy and safe.
Danger of repeating: 110%.
Happy hunting!
Conn.
Hi guys,
Thanks for your replies. Your stories are interesting, giving a good overview of difficult situations when the feelings are there.
I have failings of my youth, like not control my emotions and my feelings.
When I come back in a few months in Berlin, I’ll quickly go to Monrouge to see Melissa again. I miss her already. But don’t worry; I’ll try to keep a cool head. Then, no one ever knows, life give us surprising fates.
The Kid