Berlin

[QUOTE=Spain]Hello Kid

You have the web from this site (Melissa, Jette).

I travel next month to Berlin, but its my first time.

thank you![/QUOTE]Hello Spain,

As regards Monrouge (Melissa) and Royal (Jette), here’s their website.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/[/url]

But there is no indication about girls’ presence. However, you can phone (both have phone number on the website). I have exchanged emails with Monrouge to determine the presence of the girls I wanted to meet. Otherwise after the session, if the girl you really like, you can ask her what are her hours of attendance for the next few days (In my case, I asked Melissa, to see her again).

The Kid

Visited Berlin in February and thought I'd share some experiences here.

EKSTASE MASAGE

Decided to start my first day with a erotic massage and landed on Ekstase Massage which is located in Friedrichschain and easily reaced by the U5. (Samariterstrasse) Booked an apointment with Elena:

[url]http://www.ekstasemassage.de/html/elena.html[/url]

Went for the 30 minutes erotic massage for 60€. I was also offered a greek massage but politely declined. Short massage booked as said so it was not very long before it was time to turn around and I could see her naked body. She does have a fine pair of tits. She oiled her hands and my cock. Oil warm and tingling when first apllied but then it wears off a bit. (the warm feeling) I ran my hands over her body over the areas the angle permitted me... ass when she moved sideways and tits when she was up front. There was not much sound and no "sexy smiling looks" from her though. (She had that more "serious" or professional look) At one point I had her ass and pussy straight in my face in the 69 position. But no oral allowed (made clear on the site) and I did not press my luck but instead used a finger on her pussy, and felt she was getting wet. She took my cock between her tits, some bit of spanish, then had to take a short break as not to come too quickly. Some more hand and titswork and I came, really not in the best angle. Had my cock pointing up and backwards so it really didnt soak her tits like I wanted to. She dried me up and told me to lay there as she went out and came back after a short while continuing the massage. Asked if i wanted more massage to my cock, which was a nice gesture of her I find. As it wasnt long since the last pop it didnt result in anything though and I was still drained so no matter. All in all nice body and some good positions (like having her pussy in my face) but she was very quiet and when I looked at her during the massage she had a bit of a distant look if you ask me, no smiles or sparkles/ livelyness. But this is just my interpretation. Others may experience it differently of course. She never rushed things though. Another shower, kiss on the cheek and aufwiedersehen.

TIFFANY

[url]http://www.ritter11.de/[/url]

Went off to Tiffany (located in Kreuzberg) with Pia and Chantalle in mind.
Arrived and was buzzed in. Walked all the floors up to 4th floor (actually there is a elevator too but guess I was a bit absent minded ;) There was quite a few in the parade. Maybe 6. Not bad. But I was focusing on just waiting until Pia arrived or until Chantalle presented herself. Nope, they were not there. The parade had ended but since I was focused on only those two I could not remember the names of any of the girls who presented themself! Yikes. Some I didnt catch either, as they said it too fast and they were coming straight after another. Pia it turned out was there but booked out whole day. Schade. Chantalle was free in 1 hour so made a booking before strolling around in the cold until it was time to return.

A sun-tanned and cheerful Chantalle received me.

[url]http://www.ritter11.de/bordell-girls/chantalle.php[/url]

She is of the very chatty kind, chats constantly, smiling. Its quite a huge establishment and bit of walking to our room. Brought my applejuice and she told me she would be right back. I had to ask myself for a shower though. This is something which I find a bit strange about Tiffany. I've met 3 girls there and neither have asked me if I wanted shower first, so obviously its not routine to be offered a shower.

Started out with her lightly clothed (which I prefer as opposed to her coming into the room already naked or just strip out quickly) with bit of snuggling and feeling eachother up. Lots of sound, too much for my liking (since it feels like an act) Rubbed her tits and licked her nipple. Felt her pussy, and rubbing her clit it was wet. Slided a finger in easily and she made the constant mmm ahh sounds and some verbal encouragement. She got on her kneees with me sitting on the bed with bit of a bbbj. Was OK but I found her blowjob skills not being of the best. Time for fucking and started with missionary. I wanted to finish with facial as this was mentioned in her profile she provides it. But when I asked her as we settled the cash in the beginning she said she didnt do it, but that I could cum on her tits. As an important reason for picking her was that I wanted to finish splashing her face this was naturally a disappointment. All in all a friendly experience but a bit too chatty and fake sounds to my liking. I would preferred it more “low key”, but that’s just me.

Hello Guys,

I'm planning a short trip to Berlin. Anyone has any info regarding geile modelle. I will contribute when i'm back.

[url]http://www.geile-modelle.de/girls.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Jes007]Hello Guys,

I'm planning a short trip to Berlin. Anyone has any info regarding geile modelle. I will contribute when i'm back.

[url]http://www.geile-modelle.de/girls.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

Hi Jes,

I have no personal experience but the German forums always seem to give the agency pretty positive press. I seem to remember some exceptions (no specifics sorry) but a few of the girls are reviewed favorably and the agency itself seems to care about repeat business.

A word of caution though-a number of the girls on this site are said to offer bareback service at a premium.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Jes,

I have no personal experience but the German forums always seem to give the agency pretty positive press. I seem to remember some exceptions (no specifics sorry) but a few of the girls are reviewed favorably and the agency itself seems to care about repeat business.

A word of caution though-a number of the girls on this site are said to offer bareback service at a premium.

AM[/QUOTE]

Thanks Magee, Unfortunately I missed the flight. However I checked with the agency and at least 4 of the girls will do bareback for additional fee. I checked with two other agencies and it seems like this is a common phenomena.

[QUOTE=Jes007]I checked with the agency and at least 4 of the girls will do bareback for additional fee. I checked with two other agencies and it seems like this is a common phenomena.[/QUOTE]

It is absolutely not common practice. It does go on. While some might argue, well this is a matter of personal choice on both sides, it is simply not.
It increases risks significantly for all of us (not only AIDS but a range of STDs) and it is the last thing any of us, or providers need. The practice should be avoided like the plague it is, and the agencies that tolerate it should also be avoided IM not so HO. I wish it were otherwise, and I hate condoms as much as anyone. I have a good friend who is a Doctor working in the university AIDS clinic in Frankfurt and the stories are not pretty. Some things you mess with, some you just don´t. This is really a protect the community thing.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]It is absolutely not common practice. It does go on. While some might argue, well this is a matter of personal choice on both sides, it is simply not.
It increases risks significantly for all of us (not only AIDS but a range of STDs) and it is the last thing any of us, or providers need. The practice should be avoided like the plague it is, and the agencies that tolerate it should also be avoided IM not so HO. I wish it were otherwise, and I hate condoms as much as anyone. I have a good friend who is a Doctor working in the university AIDS clinic in Frankfurt and the stories are not pretty. Some things you mess with, some you just don´t. This is really a protect the community thing.[/QUOTE]

Hi RB,

First of all let me say that bbfs (bareback full service) is not something I personally look for. But as I am interested in all aspects of this hobby I do keep tabs on what goes on in the community. And I think BBFS is a lot more common than you think. The German forum I frequent even has a thread specifically dedicated to "Alles Ohne". I guess it depends upon your definition of commonly available. For my purposes it means that it would be easy to find were I to want it. And it is-from agencies, a number of bordellos and even the street girls of Bülowstr. As crazy as it may seem to many there are those that seek it out with enthusiasm. It is even available, I am told by a girl who works in the industry, at some(not all and not the ones that are commonly discussed here) higher establishments. In fact it can be even more available there and even insisted upon by the establishment as a condition of working there. This is what my source tells me.

My own view on BBFS is that it probably shouldn't go on. But it does and this is a fact. So what to do? First of all I guess you can avoid the agencies and bordellos where it is relatively openly practiced. But then you need to figure out which one these are and unless you have access to the German forum (not so easy to join) there is little info out there. The bordellos and agencies do not really openly advertise the services (as AO) , rather they use code words like "Full Service Model" and "alles möglich". But one is never really sure. This I get from reading the German AO thread. Many models are said to provide it but then someone will post that they were refused. I guess it is always very much a YMMV thing and the girls do not provide it to all customers.

It seems to me that the most important factor when hobbying is to protect yourself. This is not just as a selfish act (I'm okay so who cares about anyone else) but as a sign of respect to the girls and the community. I guess my point is that if you make sure to wear a condom yourself then you protect yourself, the girl and anyone else who might use the girls services, as well as, anyone ese you might come into sexual contact with i.e. partners.

And while I am at it I could just mention that while so many of us prize the experience of bbbj, I do wonder how many of us are fully open with our other partners about this activity? Of course we tell ourselves that bbbj is perfectly safe, but then if we are not honestly fully disclosing with our other partners, then are we not making this somewhat tenuous decision for them? Without even their knowledge or consent. And in fact there certainly are STDs one can easily catch from bbbj and unwittingly pass to a partner. And HPV, which really is not protected against with condom use at all, is linked to certain types cancer, a life threatening condition if ever there was one, in both men and women. I say this not to admonish anyone, merely to bring it a little into the open and say what is often left unsaid.

My experience with Canadian forums is that those who seek or provide bbfs are vilified and even harassed beyond imagining. This is the mob mentality at work as I see it. If we make these guys & girls the bad ones, then all of "us" are the good ones-defenders of morality and safety. In fact this harassment and vilification just serves to drive the practice underground and further into the shadows where it can actually do more harm than if it was openly discussed.

I know HIV & AIDS are conditions that have had a deep effect on the planet this past thirty or so years-many have died. I myself have had a number of friend & colleagues who fell to AIDS.The sex industry is a place where, as a participent, one needs to be extra careful just because of the numbers. I am all for this care and extra protection. But in the end I do participate in the industry and I accept what risks are there. I am open with other partners (though to be honest there have not been that many these past few years so I have not really been tested here-and my openness has not always been so in the past) about what I do. For me this is all I can do and still sleep well at night.

Thanks fror listening

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi RB,

First of all let me say that bbfs (bareback full service) is not something I personally look for. But as I am interested in all aspects of this hobby I do keep tabs on what goes on in the community. And I think BBFS is a lot more common than you think. The German forum I frequent even has a thread specifically dedicated to "Alles Ohne".
AM[/QUOTE]

Angus me lad - agree, all points, as always. And you are surely right on the bbbj scene - a grey area that I know I personally just gloss over. But there is a difference between playing Russian Roulette with 1 bullet, and 5. I never frequent the agencies, precisely because I know it does go on. In the good bordellos, the rules are clear and this offers reasonable protection for all. (Let´s face it, otherwise given what we all know it going on, Berlin´s population, perhaps all of Europe itself, would be half of what it is!). But I still say given what we know, indeed after 30 years, it is nuts to go bareback, and it puts us all at risk. I say this not in a shrill way - just factual.

And there is another aspect; as you are a student of human sexuality above all else, you know there are people doing this as a kind of extra thrill (excluding other more sinister motives, which you can easily hear of if you have ever talked with our provider partners). In any case, it´s just not worth it, and I do believe it´s part of being responsible to all sides not to.
`Nuff said...

Just tried Liberty and Denise. Looks stunning until you get close then you see the bad hair roots, moustach and 5 days old shave on psy. Bought an hour was finieshed after 20 min could stand the fake moaning and oo nice yes yes thingy.

Thinking of artemis tomorrow or monrougy to try the new Russian girl. Was there this morning but no one could speak enligsh so I bailed.

I have been to Berlin once. Visited Freudenhaus Hase, very nice experience. Girls don't look to much at the clock, and are very kind without that fake "oh yeah yeah" tha personally turns me down. Had a session with a EE girl, body 8, service 8. CBJ and sex in few positions, no hurry.

Then visited Liberty (one year ago) twice. Once I chose a german girl with great body but very mechanical (came after 10 minutes, getting bored), and once a black girl, opting for a one hour session (beautiful experience, no hurries, body 8, service 9).

That is about my experience. I wanted to ask two questions

A) The flat rate brothels like Caligula: how many girls effectively are there t choose from? And how many clients? Can you REALLY have as much sex as you want for the rate, or you need to pay extra drinks, etc?

B) Nasty point: does anybody know about hiv prevalence in berlin prostitutes, or has some advice on "safer" or "more dangerous" places?

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Kasper 81]

That is about my experience. I wanted to ask two questions

A) The flat rate brothels like Caligula: how many girls effectively are there t choose from? And how many clients? Can you REALLY have as much sex as you want for the rate, or you need to pay extra drinks, etc?

B) Nasty point: does anybody know about hiv prevalence in berlin prostitutes, or has some advice on "safer" or "more dangerous" places?
[/QUOTE]


Hi Kasper,

I can not say how many girls work the floor on any given night at Caligula. But the deal is that you can have sex as many times as you want upon paying the entry fee. Of course if this actually is honored is anyone's guess. But I can not see them really kicking you out for having too much unless you act like an asshole or something. I think at such a club you have to be polite and reasonable and they will take care of your needs.

As for your second question-have a look a few posts back for a short discussion on bare back sex in Berlin. For the purposes of visiting pros one needs just to assume that there is a degree of risk. Wearing a condom cuts this risk significantly. End of story. And street girls are higher risk if you don't wear a condom simply because they are more likely to have other customers not wearing a condom. Also is is probably easier to find bare back in a small, sleazy Neuköln brothels than a well established Willmersdorf brothel. So there is a greater risk-if you go bare back. If you wera a condom your good to go.

AM

I was in Berlin this past week and got to sample. My hotel was on Ku'damm so walking distance was my radius.

SW

I found this report in my research. Forgive me for not using the quote function, but I can't seem to find it now, so I'm pasting from what I had saved for reference (BTW, thanks to all for posting. This is one of the most active folders I've found here, and it a wealth of info). It's pretty accurate.

"ISF SW: Further down the road on Einemstraße (Nearest U-Bahn Nollendorfplatz) is where the real talent is for girls in this area. They will line up along Einemstraße up until Lützowplatz and just on the corner of Einemstraße and Kurfüstenstraße (This is the Western end – don’t get confused – you should see an Einstein Café on this end of the street). Prices here range from 50 - 150 Euros for blowjob and full sex. The girls are dressed up with bustiers, garter belts, knee-high boots and not much else. It is quite a sight and many of them are really honestly beautiful. The girls found in the other areas I have mentioned above just dress in normal clothes, some regular and some pretty stunning. Most of the girls on Einemstraße will want to go the Pension Stockholm and the Alsterhof on Eisenacherstraße as explained above where the price is 12 Euros. Some may want to go somewhere just off the Kurfürstendamm which is clean, small and romantic with music and always a drink included. I don’t remember the exact location.

The streets and areas mentioned above are very dangerous and it is common knowledge that even the Police do not like going working around there. This is not due to the Prostitutes but due to the problem of drugs and the high population of Turkish people living here. Just be sensible and if you are walking around just take the cash that you need and keep your hands in your pockets. Look for a girl and do the business, don’t get into any trouble. I don’t mean to scare you, just making you aware as this area has a reputation so caution should be taken at all times."

Comments. Whoever wrote this was right. It's worth it to take a look at the girls on Einemstraße just to see them. I've seen a few *****s in my day, but this is over the top. I didn't try any of them, but did talk. Price right now is 70. It's hit or miss, sometimes they are there, sometimes not. I don't know if it has anything to do with cops coming by.

Twice I partook in the SW on between Bulow str between Einemstraße and Potsdamerstr. Price and quality goes down the further away you get from Einemstraße. Both girls were Hungarian. First one, Kira, was a definite non-repeat. 50 for CBJ (not to completion), DATY and fuck. Her BJ was so worthless, I couldn't even get it up enough to fuck. Second, was a tall brown haired girl, I saw her after my session with Kira, and she was the reason I went back. Anka looked like she has a great body in her SW clothes, but when she took them off, it was obvious she had had kids--stretch marks everywhere, and her small breasts were saggy. I was encouraged when we started DFK, BBJ was good. DATY (I kinda got the impression she'd go uncovered--DON'T. There was some funkiness about that pussy). Shagged her in every position, but it wasn't inspired. 60 euro spent (50 for service, 10 for room). If money is an issue, this wasn't bad.

Gangbang

Found this add in my research: [url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/Gangbang-Berlin-13527.html[/url]

25 euro? Why the hell not?! This was my first GB experience. The woman, Silke was in her 40's fake tits, nice body. About 20 guys. It was filmed, no release forms or anything, but you know you're gonna end up on the net, so bring a mask. She performed magnificently. Deep throat, face fucking. Only vaginal covered, no anal. You gotta wait in line, although alot of those 20 guys were just sitting around watching. Finally got my turn, fucked her a little, and then 3 of us came on her face right in a row. It was classic. I would definitely do this again.

Monrouge.

The highlight of my time. Maya. [url]http://www.monrouge.de/maya_neu.html[/url] She wasn't my first choice (Celine was, but she doesn't do CIM). But boy I'm glad I chose her. No entrance fee. 70 euro for 30 min. BBBJ & CIM available (and extra depending on the girl). They take you to a room, and then the girls come in 1 at a time, and after you pick. 9 girls available at 23:00 on a Friday. Bulgarian Maya was great. DFK, deep throat, face fucking, fantastic body (fake tits). DATY which she enjoyed since her pussy got wet (I can tell the difference between pussy juice and my own saliva). Enthusiastic. Definite repeat. I should have gone back there in stead of the SW Anka. Oh well.

Again, I want to thank all of you who contribute to this forum. You make it very informative, made my trip to Berlin much more enjoyable. This is what it's all about right here. Good luck and good hunting.

Hi all,

I saw this escort agency on another thread and on visiting the site was blown away by some of the girls. Especially this one:

[url]http://www.greta-brentano.com/#kristina_nilsson.php[/url]

I wonder if any of our friends in Berlin (Angus perhaps?) have hired this girl and can report back or, if not her, any other girl from this agency? It seems like a real top notch escort agency and, though rather expensive on first appearance, if you work it out *per hour* it is not much more than an hour with a girl in an FKK per hour (including one extra such as CIM for example).

OK, a 1000 euros is a hell of a lot of money to drop in one day (6 hours in fact) but six hours of sex play is a lot.

I'd love to get some feedback because i've decided that, all things going well, I'm going to book this girl on my next visit to Berlin but don't want to blow that sort of money on a scam or subpar service.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006]Hi all,

I saw this escort agency on another thread and on visiting the site was blown away by some of the girls. Especially this one:

[url]http://www.greta-brentano.com/#kristina_nilsson.php[/url][/QUOTE]I have also in recent weeks been intrigued by this agency's website. They appear to be pitching themselves in at the top end of the spectrum, and their girls all look appealing, especially for those punters who prefer ladies, as the French say, 'd'un certain age'.

If it were me, I'd be more inclined to attempt to try them out with a 1 or 2 hour appointment before committing to spending 1000E, just in case they turn out to be crap. But they don't seem to offer anything less than an 'overnighter', so they seem to be minded to eschew such business.

If you do decide to do untertake a trial experiment on behalf of us all, please be kind enough to post a full report on your experiences as I for one would be terribly curious to know more

Thx

Charlie

[QUOTE=Dave Lamd]I was in Berlin this past week and got to sample. My hotel was on Ku'damm so walking distance was my radius......

.....Again, I want to thank all of you who contribute to this forum. You make it very informative, made my trip to Berlin much more enjoyable. This is what it's all about right here. Good luck and good hunting.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report Dave. Some interesting stuff here, particularly the Gang Bang which sounds a real Berlin Bang.

Interestingly enough I just discovered on the German forums that Mon Rouge and Berlin's most expensive bordello, Bel Ami has a new-ish location in the center of Berlin, on the ground floor of MR's Liebnizstrasse location. I have not yet been able to determine if the two are also connected by management but it does seem likely. I will keep you all posted here if I find anything out about this connection.

Here is the Liebnizstr. location website.

[url]http://www.belami-berlin.de/[/url]

It is really one of the most useless websites ever giving only the address & contact details. But then that does seem to go along with Bel Ami's general reputation of not really giving a shit about customers unless they are ready to drop the big bucks.

AM