Berlin

[QUOTE=Traderx]Yep. Should have elaborated. Basically I been doing research using your blog the ISG forums here and Berlinintim. It seems that this place advertises an erotic event every day and is open 24/7 with a wellness area and even some kind of buffet. But surprised I've not seen it ever mentioned in the forums.

SwingerOase:[/QUOTE]

Yeah I am not so into the swinger scene so I have little experience and rarely mention it. Maybe I should give it a...er...swing...just out of professional interest. This place is, as I know more, a swingers club where single men are welcome for a higher price. They may or may not have a couple of semi pros on hand to service the single men. Actually my good friend & forum member Iseeu has been there a couple of times I think and said it to be okay. Maybe drop him a pm asking about it or post in the General Partytreff/swingers section of the board specifically asking Iseeu for info. But I can tell you that generally in swingers clubs, unless they have some pro ladies for the singles, you have to be prepared to come away "ungepoppt" as there is no guarantee. But you do seem to know this so it probably is not a concern to you.

As I think on it Iseeu more than likely did write a report on the place you mention but it mat be hidden within a general Berlin report of his so it may be very hard to find. Look at his reports in the Berlin thread from about three years back (maybe 4 but I think 3) this time of year, Sept, Oct Nov.. You might just find it.

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[QUOTE=TraderxI]But my preference would be to goto a PartyTreff but I can't tell which clubs are those. Are places like King George PartyTreffs?[/QUOTE]

Not sure that there is really a partyfreff in Berlin. Just the clubs you mention and maybe a few more swingers clubs.

The King George, Caligula and Pussy Club in Schönefeld are not Partytreffs. They are flat rate clubs and their is a big difference. If you have not done so read my KG report. It gives a pretty good picture I think of this sort of club. Unless you can make your own fun, you are likely not to have fun. The sex part is pretty soul destroying unless you just want a very minimum fuck, or several or really work the girls as Charlie did. Then it can be okay. But it is not a Partyfreff.

The other swingers clubs, and I think there are a number, you will have to find someone who knows much more than me. All I could tell you, you could as easily find yourself on the internet.

Please do remember to write a report. Keeping this thread so alive takes time & effort on my and others parts. We do so in the hopes that others will give back as a way of repaying the info they take.

You could well become the Berlin swinger scene expert with a little effort ;)

Cheers

AM

[QUOTE=Dustyrip]Thanks a lot guys,

The plan at the moment is to go to Artemis on the Friday as I know I would be annoyed with myself if I didn't go there on my visit. I have a feeling Atemis may be like Darlings in Prague so €400 is as much as I can take really. Thats entrance and 5 sessions or 3 if I do CIM etc..I know the ways these gils can influence you into paying more so I need to be careful..[/QUOTE]

€400 is a pretty good bankroll for an evening at Artemis unless you lose your head. My first time there I spent €310 and walked away pretty happy. Perhaps look in the FKK RofD thread for Angus Loses his FKK Cherry, my first visit to Artemis. Late October 2008 I believe is the date. Just don't put too much pressure on yourself to "succeed" and you'll be right. And do remember to pack that Irish charm you mention. It goes a long way in an FKK environment does charm of any sort. Mostly be as real as you can be with the ladies. Oh..and don't put to much faith in other mongers experiences as you read here. The most important ingredient in a good FKK session is the chemistry you have with the girl. Do you like her, does she seem to like you at least a wee bit.




[QUOTE=Dustyrip]I will go to Kamila Dee or Van Kempen(or both) on Saturday during the day as I need to try to get to bed early with the Marathon on Sunday Morning. I am not sure whether I will have any money left to do anything on the Sunday its unlikely so I might just rest in the hotel until I fly home on Monday morning.

The thing with Kamilla Dee is they only do cbj. I am not a fan of this at all so this is the main reason why I wouldn't go here. If I do go I will just show up at the premises without ringing or emailing in advance. The women seem decent on the website and I am sure there will be one there who I would fuck!!

I read Angus's blog again and a lot of the Lower end places seem to do FrenchTotal so I might try these out athe than Kamilla Dee/Van Kempen.

So many decisions.[/QUOTE]

Why not try Liberty? It has a cheaper base price and they do bbbj many of the girls. The hour session will cost you (or could) a bit more but you get your bbbj. A session at VK with extras can easily hit 190. The KD session will be 160, but no bbbj.

[QUOTE=Dustyrip]I realy should think more about this race!![/QUOTE]

I don't know. As Angus sees it you seem to have your priorities straight.

AM

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen]Hi AM.

Hehe you are occupied at Artemis in the weekends ehehe.[/QUOTE]


It is sort of funny as I suddenly see that people here must think I am always at Artemis or some other sex establishment getting my unit polished. In fact right now I am rarely there. The last visit was mid July. Last year-that was a different story. 2-3 visits a month was for a time my average.

And the money-people must think I roll in the stuff. In fact I was up until recently a working stiff on hourly salary for the man. I paid my rent, food, coffee then spent every other EUR I earned at the bordellos. Then I lost the job and fell (more like was pushed) into an abyss. I spent several months last winter lying in bed, masturbating, watching porn and dreaming up ways to off myself without causing too much bother. I couldn't really think of any that filled the conditions of not leaving a body and/or not being too expensive. Offing yourself without the mess ain't cheap.

Then through a series of sort miracle like events involving some very dear friends (that is no one set out to help me, they let me wallow, but they did offer their continued friendship) I came to a place where I just said to myself that I did not how, but I was going to do what I really in my deepest heart wanted to do. Even if I was not really sure (still am not) what that was other than share myself passionately with the world. Exactly who I am in each moment, no compromise.

The days I decided this, it may have been a moment but a sort of timeless moment, something shifted in me. I was broke, owed money, had not paid rent in 5 months (my room mate is very, very cool), had no job, didn't even want one, but I was gong to do something come hell or high water. I started my first book and the blog.

The book is coming along. It needs some cash. I had to/have to take care of the debts, things, unexpected things, happened, life throws her curve balls, but I now have a sort of career involving many of the things I love to do, including but not exclusively visiting FKK, bordellos, tantra studios and anything else sex industry related.

Why tell you all of this? Partly to affirm it for myself. But also to tell the whole fucking universe that I am available for this. I am not just me. I am not just Angus. I do not really know who I am at the moment and that is perfectly fine by me. I wake looking forward to my regular job, then the day gets better as I fuck around on the computer, write and genrally do what i want. The money is not all there right now, thus the reason for my having to plan trips to Art, but I am certain that I can make it work and the money will arrive when it arrives. Rent is paid each month, debts are shrinking.

The teacher/friend I sometimes mention in passing is a remarkable man. At one of my first meetings with him he said to me-What would you say to Death if he were to show upp at your house one day and say, Angus, it is your time. What would you say? All I could think of is what I wanted to be able to say but could not. That is, Yes, come on Death, lets rock, let's get the fuck out of here see what is next. if anything. But I could not say that then. Probably not now either. But I fully intend to live the rest of my days so that when he does come, I will be able to greet him with open arms, a smilie and a packed bag. I want to finish every moment as if it is the last one I will ever have.

Maybe a strange goal in life but it is the one I have, the one given to me by providence and I like it.

Hope this is not too much for the Berlin thread guys, but hey, if it is then don't read it. Go have fun. Go get your unit polished. I know I will one of these days and will fucking enjoy it.



[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen]Please give me a hint, I'm dying to know.[/QUOTE]

Sorry I really can not in the open forum. I do have my private life to consider as much as I blab about my goals & aspirations here. But when we meet-gladly

AM

Hey AM,

Cool that you dare express part of your private life openly here in the forum.

If I live in Berlin I would probably go to Artemis or other P4P options in Berlin every week, I'm glad I don't live there as I would be broke.

I thought you were back on your feet, because you mention about working during the World Cup.

Your blog is great and what is the book about? Same subject?

If Death smile at you just smile back, what is in your packed bag? You won't need condoms in hell

It's much funnier to live.

My goal in life is to still be able to fuck girls in FKKs even when I'm 80-90 yrs old.

Carpe Diem, AM

Nille

Did a one day trip to Berlin yesterday to get some things done (get laid, that is...). Since I was on a tight schedule (landed in Berlin SFX around 9 am and was leaving at 6 pm) I headed straight to the S-Bahn and took the train to Ostkreuz. I was heading for Harmonie Massagen ([url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de[/url]) in Rigaerstrasse 3. Took a coffee and crossaint on the way. Rang the bell around 10:15 (they have their own entrance) but there was no answer and a group of people moving out of a flat was looking strange a me. So I left.

The I went for second part of my plan and headed for KD. I had been quite intrigued by Eva's pictures ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/eva.htm[/url]) and I was lucky that she was available. She was also the only girl of the ones presented to me in the line up (of five girls) that kissed. So I booked an hour with her.

She is lookwise more a student that a model (the pictures suggest the latter). Her body is not that well trained and fit but that makes her feel like a genuine next door girl. She is very sweet and unspoiled with a straightforward personality. And the session was very relaxed with two pops - one by suck and one by fuck. She got quite wet when I gave her oral and no lube was needed for the fuck.

One thing though was that I told her I was in Berlin for work, and when I left she wished me a good holiday...so that kind of broke the illusion for me...was she not listening at all when we had our small pillow talk after sex? But all in all a nice session. Would probably repeat.

After the session I didn't really feel like going back to Harmonie Massagen or to Royal (an optional third leg for my trip) so I just killed time walking around Alex since the weather was so nice.

Hi all,

I have a free night tonight and really want to go to some nice clubs in Berlin, do you guys have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen] If I don't make this weekend, I'm planning to visit Artemis on the 29th Sep. Artemis 5 yrs birthdayparty.

Are you attending?

[/QUOTE]

Am I attending? Only if they comp my entry.I may just run it by them next time I am there (Sept 15 likely) and I have the balls.

Parties, their pros & cons were discussed in length, I think on the Oase thread, maybe World? I actually attended last years and it was okay. I described it recently, probably in the party pro/con discussion I just mentioned.

Briefly, it could have been to do with where I was at back then but I found it to be quite clique-y. That is many of the guests seemed to be guests of the owner and there seemed to be private little parties going on that you needed to be invited to. Many of the hotter girl were fully booked by the friends of the owner and were not really that available for regular guests. The champagne, and the money, were flowing. I was just out of the flow.

Eventually I decided to just have a good time with what [b]was[/b] happening and just drank some champagne, ate the very good food (it was quite good that night, watched fireworks at 23:00 and chatted to girls who I did not take to the rooms.Girls I was not that interested in.

I left at around midnight-ungepoppt as they say. My wallet was still full so I cabed it home for once in my life. Nice.

Do not let all this discourage you. As I say, I suspect the flat time had as much to do with me as with the events of the party. Maybe more to do with me. I am quite willing to go this year again. But I am not champing at the bit for it. As with so much right now I take it as it comes. If The Goddess Artemis wishes me in attendance she is going to have to throw me the means to be there. That is all.

AM

[QUOTE=Royal Chicken]Hi all,

I have a free night tonight and really want to go to some nice clubs in Berlin, do you guys have any suggestions?

Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]Artemis FKK would be my choice.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Briefly, it could have been to do with where I was at back then but I found it to be quite clique-y. That is many of the guests seemed to be guests of the owner and there seemed to be private little parties going on that you needed to be invited to. Many of the hotter girl were fully booked by the friends of the owner and were not really that available for regular guests. [/QUOTE]Hi AM,

So you are saying that even there were many girls that night, all the good ones were booked for the owner and his guests.

As far as I know there is only 1 big VIP room, so where did the girls go?

Don't they returned to the main lounge where you can grab them? How many girls would estimate were present that night, 90-100 girls?

Normally I like to party and I like the crowded atmosphere, but if it's impossible to get the good girls during the B-party at Artemis, then I might reconsider.

Nille

This will be my first visit in Berlin and I did some RTTF esp. AG's post but I still have some questions.

I'll be arriving on Sept 19th at 9 AM and I'm free on Sept 19 and 20. Are these good days for some actions in Berlin?

I'll be staying in Hotel IBIS at Brandenburgische Strasse 11 - Wilmersdorf, 10713. How far are the happening places like Artemis and KD from the hotel by public transport? (I absolutely hate to use Taxi while touring).

Lastly, I'm love analicious girls. Is it easy to find in Berlin and does it cost extra? I'm a paid member, so PM is fine too.

Hi Gents,

I am feeling a wee regretful about my post below, the quite personal one. The regret is not because it reveals to much (well, maybe a bit of that in the mix) but I feel it is sort of inappropriate for the thread. Jackson states very clearly what the forum is about. While we do go off a bit now and then I like to keep it relevant to the topic at hand-finding beautiful working girls in all parts of the world.

So, if I could i would delete the post. As I can not I will pledge to keep it on topic from now on. At least from my side. I may slip in the occasional philosophical tid bit, but it will be directly related to te girls, not Angus' state of mind or soul.

If any of you want to discuss these other matters (or matters more personal to Angus ) keep an eye on the blog, contact me there and I will respond. Or just get in touch when coming to Berlin. We can meet for a beer,coffee or a stint at Artemis, cash flow permitting.

Thanks

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi Gents,

I am feeling a wee regretful about my post below, the quite personal one. The regret is not because it reveals to much (well, maybe a bit of that in the mix) but I feel it is sort of inappropriate for the thread. Jackson states very clearly what the forum is about. While we do go off a bit now and then I like to keep it relevant to the topic at hand-finding beautiful working girls in all parts of the world.

So, if I could i would delete the post. As I can not I will pledge to keep it on topic from now on. At least from my side. I may slip in the occasional philosophical tid bit, but it will be directly related to te girls, not Angus' state of mind or soul.

If any of you want to discuss these other matters (or matters more personal to Angus ) keep an eye on the blog, contact me there and I will respond. Or just get in touch when coming to Berlin. We can meet for a beer,coffee or a stint at Artemis, cash flow permitting.

Thanks

AM[/QUOTE]

Don't sweat it AM, I share quite a bit of my private life around here. We're just apart of a larger brotherhood, sometimes you wanna spill your guts to the fellas because we tend to be a bit less judgmental. Also as we get older, we start being more selective about who were friends with and sometimes they can't understand P4P activity.

I say this web site is in pursuit of relationships be it temporary, conditional or long term. These aren't platonic relationships we are seeking, so its assumed sex is involved and required.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen]Hi AM,

So you are saying that even there were many girls that night, all the good ones were booked for the owner and his guests.

As far as I know there is only 1 big VIP room, so where did the girls go?

Don't they returned to the main lounge where you can grab them? How many girls would estimate were present that night, 90-100 girls?

Normally I like to party and I like the crowded atmosphere, but if it's impossible to get the good girls during the B-party at Artemis, then I might reconsider.

Nille[/QUOTE]


Hi N C,

Oh shit my memory is a tricky thing. It is not so accurate with the details. So i can not say definitively if it was an off night over all. It was an off night for me and while I had a good time I did not do any fucking. Saved some money which was good.

I also think I go to Artemis for different reasons. For me the fucking bit is almost secondary now. It started to change at around that time when I started to session with a few regular girls rather than fucking any girl who wiggled her butt at me and winked. As I remember all my faves were absent on that evening and there was just no one who really did it for me.

It depends on how you feel abou parties in FKKs. Myself, now, I prefer the quieter times when the girls are a little at a loose end and are willing to talk a bit and play seduction games. Parties suck for this.

So I do not say do not go. Just go, if you go, with open eyes. There is money in the air on such a night. If you yourself have a bankroll the girls will sniff you out, I have no doubt of that. The owner and guests did have some of the best girls occupied as far as I could see. But I wasn't really looking all that hard so my experience was such as it was. No regret, but unless I am invited to this next one, I would probably stay at home. That is just me.

AM

PS-when I go on the 15th I do intend to ask someone for that invite. So we might see you there.

[QUOTE=Zabed1970]I'll be arriving on Sept 19th at 9 AM and I'm free on Sept 19 and 20. Are these good days for some actions in Berlin?[/QUOTE]

Sunday & Monday. Not the top days but Berlin has options any day of the week. As the bordellos tend to be a bit slow on Sunday i suggest Artemis that day. KD or any other bordello would be just fine on a Monday. See my blog for a multitude of detail in the recent bordello posts.

[url]www.angusmagee.com[/url]


[QUOTE=Zabed1970]I'll be staying in Hotel IBIS at Brandenburgische Strasse 11 - Wilmersdorf, 10713. How far are the happening places like Artemis and KD from the hotel by public transport?[/QUOTE]

Artemis would be walkable on a fine day (30-40 mins brisk walk) and there is a bus that drives right by your hotel (#104) and drops you at Westkreuz three minutes from the front door of Artemis. Other transit options are available. See the BVG website.

KD is about 10-15 minutes walk from your hotel. Also see on the blog Walk with Angus #2 which is a video showing the walk from Berlinerstr. & Blissestr., just down from your hotel, to KD.


[QUOTE=Zabed1970]Lastly, I'm love analicious girls. Is it easy to find in Berlin and does it cost extra? I'm a paid member, so PM is fine too.[/QUOTE]

Anal is available reasonably easily. At least all bordellos will have some girls offering it. The least you will pay is €25 extra. This s rare. More common is €40—€50 extra. Artemis you will pay€100 extra.

Please do write up your experiences here in the Berlin thread and/or the Artemis FKK thread.

AM

Hi Guys,

I will report my trip when I come home on this board alright. It more than likely will be Artemis on the Friday and one of Kamilla Dee/Liberty on the Saturday and thats it.

Two final questions, is there an area on this site or elsewhere that gives you a link/shows you all the German sex terms? Also, is an hour the normal session in places like Kamilla Dee etc. I would have thought 30 minutes is?!

I am looking on some sites and seeing 'traffic'. 'with sympathy'. Etc. I don't know what most of these terms mean as they are unique to Germany as far as I can see.