Vienna

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;1963182] And as a final point, if it ever did transpire, I would probably have to stay mum about it.[/QUOTE]I would recommend you to. GT management is very aware of this thread already BTW.

[QUOTE=Stirling;1952530]Entry fee, including drinks and food is waived IF you take a girl for a session to a room.

Stirling.[/QUOTE]Do they refund it, or do you have to make that option right up front?

What are the fees for the girls for an hour?

After one year "day off" from Vinna scene, I finally had a chance to come back. Few notes here about my experiences.

On my last visit, I went to Lovekino's Gangbang (49 euros entry without any "VIP card" Last time was my first time in this event, and it was not maybe the "best ever" thing to happen to me, but not bad anyway, so I thought I give it a try again. Anyway, there was a new girl Lelah Riant taking part in that, and in pictures she looked "probably OK" - other girl (or let's say woman.) was Adrianne Kiss.

Event started at 7 pm, I arrived there around 7:30. Paid the entrance, entered the room and all the hassle was going on already. I took off the clothes and went to action. To be said, to people at this point, who haven't attended this event before: no shower available (at least I haven't seen one), and clothes you put where every you find space in there in the room. This was a bit "what a hell?" -thing for me on first visit, but now since I knew it already, not a problem.

I took my place in line with Adrienne, and had a (disappointingly) short blowjob from her and then she put on the condom to me and asked to fuck her. Well. I did as requested and that quest was quickly finished. She might not be the prettiest available girls in the world, but her pussy was surprisingly good. Have to give credit for it. As a person, she was great also.

Well. After that, I took a short pause on the sofa gathering my strength and I prepare going for Lelah. She is one damn good looking "neighbor girl" looking one, the picture on internet don't do justice to her at all. She is really lovely looking girl. I told her later that she really should update the pictures which are being used to market the events where she attends: the Her blowjob was great. At least for me. Very good feeling about that, but since she was way better looking than Adrienne, there was quite a lot queue to her and lot of cocks around her which she tried to take care of. So, it went the "typical" way. Get a blowjob for a while, and suddenly when feel like "hey, I might come soon!" she suddenly grabs another cock and it's a bye bye for me. Someone should really teach girls that if you suck a dick, please finish it or it will become a project of eternity. I couldn't come with her, because there was too many pauses, and I gave it up. I went to Adrienne next, but same thing was happening there. Too many "changes" so I decided this event is done for me.

In overall, this event was quite OK and good, even thought it didn't go as a dream for me, I will go back sometimes again to try my luck again. If you're not shy with 20-30 guys around you, it's worth going.

From Lovekino, I took taxi to Fun-Palast. I knew it has had critics lately about line-up and services lately, but since it has been my favorite (even compared to GT), I thought I go there anyway. 90 eur entrance (last time it was 80 eur). Nothing in interior has changed, all same as before. Quite a lot of girls, and not so many men around, so situation was pretty OK. Girls were (probably because of the lack of customers) a bit too aggressively coming to me. I don't like it when they push it too much. After 20-30 minutes of checking around, Romanian blonde girl "Karmen" sit on my lap. She was funny, good looking and pretty energetic, with natural perky tits etc, I liked her instantly. She didn't speak very good english (I should've known by experience, this is first step to trouble but she was so good looking.) We agreed to go to room for one hour (second mistake. Never take one hour straight, you can always continue 30 minutes session later). So we went to room, did the job (25 minutes) and finished. After that, she said we are done and asked for 120 eurs. I was wondering that "what do you mean, we've been here less than 30 minutes now". She insisted that we had agreed about one hour /120 eurs and that's it. I tried to explain her that it's OK, one hour is one hour and I can do that, but if we stop and leave now, I am not going to pay for one hour. In the end, I gave her 100 eur, I didn't want to make any bigger scene about it. We / she can be sure though, I will never do her again. I hate this cheating. I will probably not go Fun-Palast again for a while because of this.

I almost left home after this, I was so disappointed. I thought at least I go to eat something before leaving. After food, came Ukrainian girl Katerina / Katarina to me. A bit "not so thin", but friendly looking. First I thought "no way". Then she started talking, and did a bit of neck massage on the sofa and talking in very nice and friendly way, being not pushy at all. That's what I like and suddenly decided to go with her anyway. That was a good choice, she made me feel much better, and spent 1,5 hours with her. Great girl, great attitude. Only thing I didn't like was she wanted extra 50 eur for BBBJ and she didn't' tell than in advance. That was the only thing to complain about, and the reason I will probably not go with her again, if I happen to meet her again.

Well. Few days left, everybody is saying GT is the best choice at the moment, and I will go tomorrow to see if it is like that.

I have gone "out" with lot of girls out of FKK's including FP and GT. It's not money away from the venue. It would be basically illegal to restrict girls from offering sex outside the venue if you think it legal way. As it is told, the girls are "visitors", not employees. If venue owner prohibits private business, they become illegal pimps. Period.

General impression. Seemed a bit less busy then normal until about 1130 pm. Friday night seems to be one of those nights when guys start later.

Roster. Quite a few new girls have arrived in November. Mostly Romanians of course but some coming from clubs in Germany at the moment esp from some of the FKK in the smaller cities. I would say the quality has on the whole improved and probably the balance between enhanced and natural is now nearer 50/50 - fitter girls in early 20's is also slightly on the rise. Ratio to blondes and dark hair again more balanced and there is now one attractive / fit black girls and s few more curvy types. Also noticed more girls pushing lesbian experience for those who can be persuaded.

I won't report on my "regulars" this report but only on my new experience with a 28 yr old Romanian blonde called Reina. You'll recognize hes because she has her hair in a single tight braid and has 4 tattoos and a belly ring. Most distinguished of her tattoos is a puzzle on her hip / thigh.

Height 1.62 cm without heels /34 d enhanced / slim / 50-52 kg / Capricorn.

Personality: chatty & relaxed, laughs quite a bit. Maybe I am funny sometimes, pretty much her own person.

Services: no anal / no fingers everything else possible.

Cost e200 for an hour. Anything except above.

Place: upstairs room with mirror / bigger room. My preference though a bit noisy.

Report: the thing this girl has is a great ass. Not big / but peachy. This was my primary reason for the punt and the fact that she has only been at Goldentime a week. After chatting a bit we went to a room and then she took her 8 in heels off and I realized she was small. We started kissing. That was OK. She's not really a DFK type unlike Ina or Misha. But it was enjoyable all the same as she does have a skillful tongue. After that I sampled her breasts / nice feel / responsive nipples and she enjoys the attention to them / sucking / kissing / squeezing etc all nice. From there we got more relaxed on the sheets. Nice pussy and clit. Its dark on the edges and pink in the middle. Small clit with a tight hood / when we were chatting we talked about cumming so we had agreed if I could get her there she wouldn't stop it. So that was the challenge. It was a major tongue fest on my part to get her there. The thing that made it erotic fir me was the way it built. At first she was watching me giving her head. I was lucking / probing / tapping / nibbling etc / she had her legs on my shoulders / gradually and very slowly her breathing intensified and she started to open her legs. As she did that I started to pull her lips open. Focusing my tongue right under her clit / for a good 5 minutes I rotated between sucking and licking until she was shaking and really moaning but she wasn't there yet and I had to really jack up the intensity. She was really breathing at this point and then she put her head back and basically said Fuck. And then it was like a cresting wave. A bit of her sweet cum in my mouth and that moment when she wants nothing to do with you! My tongue was pretty tired so I had a rest while she returned the favor. Her BJ technique was varied. With me my cock seems to have its own behavior but gradually she found her rhythm. And I really started to enjoy it. Which isn't always the case. She was particularly skilled at putting my cock in her mouth while squeezing my balls and then fluttering her tongue on my head. She would do this over and over until I was very close to cumming. However I told her we had to do doggie do on went the cap and away we went at a 45 degree angle to the mirror. This lady has a really pretty ass. The kind that deserves some light slapping and squeezing. I took thing slow at first. She has a tight pussy. And as I started to push with long strokes deeper it got tighter and tighter - 3 of 4 times as I kept pushing harder and deeper I nearly came but I kept backing off partially because we were both enjoying it and also because I wanted to enjoy the sight of these big tits on this little woman with the tight waist and peachy ass. Eventually however when she started to say Fuck again I just started pumping hard and deep over and over. Until I felt the first rush arrive. I t actually continued for a little while because she was so tight and I was so deep in her pussy. I rested inside her for a few minutes and then withdrew. She asked if all was good and I had to laugh. We had a 10 minute chat after that where she told me a bit about the German FKK scene.

Overall. Would I repeat? Maybe. She's not super stunning facially but I did like her attitude once we broke the ice. GT has such a smorgasbord however and I am a but of a variety guy so we'll see in the New Year.

[QUOTE=Fla_FunMeister;1963571]Do they refund it, or do you have to make that option right up front?

What are the fees for the girls for an hour?[/QUOTE]As stated every so often before: 1 hour in Babylon Vienna is 500 Euro. Yes, the entry fee does not have to be paid if a guy goes to the room.

As I had promised myself, I did a trip to Goldentime and that was a well worth a visit after Fun-Palast "fiasko" (which really feels like it now after GT visit.).

Arrived there around 17:00 and left out at 24:00, so seven hours altogether. Not too many visitors at time there yet, so girls were pretty eager to come to talk. I turned down everyone at that point, since I had just arrived there so it's not like I'm going to room with someone within first 1-2 minutes: the Lot of girls, I didn't count them, but the lineup was pretty good. Way much better than Fun-Palast earlier few days ago. At least there was girls from Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Ukraine, Moldavia, Russia, Italy and one dark skinned Cuban girl.

My first "date" was Romanian Ani. Good looking dark haired girl with good attitude and sense of humor. Very good experience. Second one was Romanian Lorettana. Who might be the one described as Isabelle in earlier threads. Eye glasses, long (really. Long!) hair, braces, everything on service list. She was a winner's choice too, I liked her a lot and was left very satisfied. Third date was that dark Cuban girl, I don't remember name. She was also nice. Due to her inviting thick lips, I took just a blowjob and it was pretty good. It probably would've been better for me, if hadn't had two dates already before her. All went well anyway, with happy ending.

I almost left already at this point, but two Ukrainian girls came to promote them to me as a duo. I said no at that point, but the other one of them was so funny and good looking (for my certain taste) I thought I give it a chance and sit around for another hour and see if feel like can do her. If I remember right, her name was said to be "Karina". I was sure that sex will be a bit challenging at this point, so took just a blowjob and it worked pretty well.

In overall, it was a good experience and left my smiling. All girls were nice. Also the ones who I turned down. There wasn't any girl who I would've felt were left bitter after hearing "no thanks". 10/10 points for girls and GT this time from me. Definitively will return there next time, and probably skip FP.

Thanks for the report. Better to skip FP at that point. GT is better all the way.

However be advised that there are no girls from the Ukraine, Russia or Cuba or Italy in GT.

Cuba means Nigeria.

Ukraine or Russia means Bulgaria.

Italy is always Romania.

They mean to sound more exotic to you which is why they lie.

In GT there is also a girl now whose German is so good that everyone including me believed at first that she is a native girl from Vienna. She is Romanian with a Romanian passport. This just as an FYI.

[QUOTE=Blasen;1964349]As I had promised myself, I did a trip to Goldentime and that was a well worth a visit after Fun-Palast "fiasko" (which really feels like it now after GT visit.).

Arrived there around 17:00 and left out at 24:00, so seven hours altogether. Not too many visitors at time there yet, so girls were pretty eager to come to talk. I turned down everyone at that point, since I had just arrived there so it's not like I'm going to room with someone within first 1-2 minutes: the Lot of girls, I didn't count them, but the lineup was pretty good. Way much better than Fun-Palast earlier few days ago. At least there was girls from Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Ukraine, Moldavia, Russia, Italy and one dark skinned Cuban girl.

My first "date" was Romanian Ani. Good looking dark haired girl with good attitude and sense of humor. Very good experience. Second one was Romanian Lorettana. Who might be the one described as Isabelle in earlier threads. Eye glasses, long (really. Long!) hair, braces, everything on service list. She was a winner's choice too, I liked her a lot and was left very satisfied. Third date was that dark Cuban girl, I don't remember name. She was also nice. Due to her inviting thick lips, I took just a blowjob and it was pretty good. It probably would've been better for me, if hadn't had two dates already before her. All went well anyway, with happy ending.

I almost left already at this point, but two Ukrainian girls came to promote them to me as a duo. I said no at that point, but the other one of them was so funny and good looking (for my certain taste) I thought I give it a chance and sit around for another hour and see if feel like can do her. If I remember right, her name was said to be "Karina". I was sure that sex will be a bit challenging at this point, so took just a blowjob and it worked pretty well.

In overall, it was a good experience and left my smiling. All girls were nice. Also the ones who I turned down. There wasn't any girl who I would've felt were left bitter after hearing "no thanks". 10/10 points for girls and GT this time from me. Definitively will return there next time, and probably skip FP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;1964538]Thanks for the report. Better to skip FP at that point. GT is better all the way.

However be advised that there are no girls from the Ukraine, Russia or Cuba or Italy in GT.

Cuba means Nigeria.

Ukraine or Russia means Bulgaria.

Italy is always Romania.

They mean to sound more exotic to you which is why they lie.

In GT there is also a girl now whose German is so good that everyone including me believed at first that she is a native girl from Vienna. She is Romanian with a Romanian passport. This just as an FYI.[/QUOTE]Massimo,

You may be right on the above. However, I can say having seen the "darker" skinned lady in question, and haven't been to Nigeria, she certainly didn't have the features, skin color or body shape. I am not saying that she was Cuban but she certainly didn't appear Nigerian. On the others, I believe there has been one Hungarian lady in GT. I was told this by two different women, on different occasions, so have no reason to doubt it. I would agree that I have yet to meet any Russians, and certainly no Germans. I'm as you have come to recognize quite content with Romanians and Bulgarians, who as we all know, can be everything.

[QUOTE=RyeHumor63;1964674] On the others, I believe there has been one Hungarian lady in GT. I was told this by two different women, on different occasions, so have no reason to doubt it.[/QUOTE]No reason to doubt that there are a few Hungarian ladies in GT at all. There is a handful of them who work there on occassion. Vivien is one of them and she seems to be the most regular one there. Ester is another one. She is a bit chubby and works only sometimes in GT. The Hungarians in GT are mostly regarded as having good service and most importantly great people skills.

Some quickies:

GT LU is good. 95% Romies. 1 or 2 Hungarians. 80 girls attendance. True FKK. Food could be better. Wifi restricted to the entrance. Girls looks more like top of the crop at world, Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan combined. Hessen, De style.

Katelea is the best looker IMO. All shapes and sizes. Skinny, petite, to tall shapely.

Downsides: upselling to 100 for 30 min proposed by some girls. If kssing is involved. Upselling can happen in the room while talk outside the room may promised and extra pricing brought up in the room. Covered BJ possible, but doesn't seem common.

You got to weed through the LU to find the gems, but with such a good LU, it's unfortunate that possibilities are there to run into the worst of Romanian services. Not a reliable service LU IMO. Now a days with so many Romanians, hard to get top looks and reliable serrviced LU. Too business like interactions and girls would bring up statements about how much is spent. Looks good if optiks are bigher on the priority. Gives a perspective on how the general LU is Ro, and best lookers among all LUs now a days.

Maxim was a waste of time for me after I fiund out the rate is 120 per half and 200 per HR. Although, GT rate is lower at 60, you do pay 90 Euros entry, with Maxim free. That and Maxim LU is lower level than GT. Would not pay 120 or 20 p rate for such a selection. There were plenty of thick and girls covered up in dresses. GT on avg has a slimmer LU, strong number, and better age range, optically superior.

FunPalast. Mainly Romies as well. 90 entry. Food Turkish style. Good percentage of Turkish clientel. Food more variety, but looks less apetising. Feels like Austria's version of German Turkish clubs. Girls seem similar to Samya or Mondial in De.

LU lower quality and quantity than GT. But, couch time with girls more interactive. Couple Bulgarians like Daisy worth booking for good services. Perhaps more reliable services compared to GT. More cute types at Funpalast. More of a Saunaclub with girls not nude like GT.

At Pussylicker.

Nice in its specificness but this not an FKK thread so it is wrong too assume that this is what everyone is going for and looking for.

Price of 120 for half and 200 for an hour is not a bad deal nor is it unreasonable and certainly well within most people's budget especially in the center of town where Maxim is probably by far the most affordable brothel.

I don't really like how you are pointing out the alleged Turkish style of Funpalast but maybe I am getting the wrong vibe from your quickie style of writing.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1966245] There were plenty of thick and girls covered up in dresses.
[/QUOTE]That's a feature, not a bug.

Seriously in my experience, a mostly super slim lineup is not enough to cater to everyone's needs although I am also going for slim rather than chubby.
Then again, Maxim's lineup is not mostly "thick" so I beg to differ.
Ladies are dressed because it is that kind of venue.

Prices are super fair in Maxim but hard to convince an FKK-lover of sex nightclubs'advantages so a moot point or apples and oranges yet again. I know Cataleya and I can confirm her good looks and the fact that she likes to ask money for everything extra which all new girls in GT are doing nowadays. Not a problem for people who know their way around negotiations like that but can become a huge issue for unexperiences punters who, in my humble opinion, should not go to an FKK place like GT alone for not being eaten alive. Some of the Maxm girls are way hotter than Cataleya in my opinion so just to say that there is no definite opinion about it that can stick. Cataleya is not in the Top20 for me in Vienna by a mile although I like her as a conversationalist.

GT lineup is very good indeed, they eat their DIRECT competitor FP alive and spit them out bone by bone.

Been to Maxim a lot this week, also yesterday, so the girls were good for most tastes and clearly for mine and my clients who I introduced. At this period of the year as a matter of fact all clubs are doing well now with girls. Even Fresh has had great reviews among local punters nowadays.

Catelea made my visit to GT very much worthwhile. She can be a service bomb, and def looks to go with it. She is quite new in case there maybe a mixup her to other girls.

There a lots of hot bodies, but face is really importan to me and Catelea hs the most beautiful face IMO. Her eyes are amazing, and def made my discision as soon as I saw her and taked to her. You just have to get on her sweet side. She is really very sweet.

First session she attempted to upsell, and went for CBJ. When she decided to DFK, it dot interesting. I made up my mind to come back for her. Session got better, and she blew me bare that time, and much more intimate time with her. I got to say she is on of my top sessions ever. She is skinny, A-cups, brunette straight, 18!, wears garter belt and fancy necklace and ear ring. Very classy IMO. Don't talk like some Romies that ask do you want to fuck right away or baby, baby, bla bla BS.

Young Ro girls not so experienced in the industry can be so much fun, and she exemplefies greatly.

Other good service girls is yet another young Ro. Emily. Not the hottest there is, but her service more than made up for it. Face is cute, and her eyes are a draw, really pretty eyes. Petite build, tits sag, so she wears a net. Sits at the bar waiting.

The two others. One was below avg with CBJ and upsell for kissing (really spoils the mood) and the other was avg, but good personality.

I had a nice chat with a 29 yrs russian girl. I had a good feeling about her. I would have tried her if I wasn't repeating Catelea.

So, on the avg, GT is not so bad service wise if picking right. Romies can be really bad or really passionate. Unfortunately, not a strong percentage are tops all around.

I will be heading to Vienna in January. I have been doing my research here and other places. This is my summary of what I have found.

I still have some questions. Also, please feel free to correct anything you might think is wrong or I missed.

Options for mongering include: FFK, Laufhaus, Studios, Nightclubs, Escort Services, Asian Massage Parlors, Massage Parlors. I have left out street walkers, strip clubs, and peepshows, as they do not interest me.

General questions:

Is 69, giving her oral usually allowed? Is this another upcharge?

What is the best option for a threesome with 2 girls?
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FFKS. Club like atmosphere where girls stroll around scantily clad.

Costs: 90 euro entrance.

Girls: 60 hour, 90-120 hour. Upcharge for kissing, CIM, other services.

Pros: Large number of girls, Get to see and talk to the girls beforehand. Food if you get there at the right time.

Cons: Expensive cover charge, especially if no one strikes your fancy.

Best option: Goldentime.
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Laufhaus. Individual rooms for each girl in a building.

Costs: 5 euro for one, free for the others.

Girls: Each one negotiates their fee.

Pros: Get to see and talk to the girls beforehand. Can see who is working via website, could make appointment with specific girl.

Cons: Quality of service hit or miss, girls are not always available.

Best option: Laufhaus Vienna, Laufhaus Juchgasse.

Question: What is the average charge for hour / hour?
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Studios. Available girls are presented for your selection.

Costs: None.

Girls: 60-80 euro hour, 90-120 euro hour.

Pros: Get to see the girls beforehand. Can see who is working via website, could make appointment with specific girl.

Cons: Pressure to pick one.

Best option: ?

Question: How easy is it to just opt to not pick a girl?
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Nightclubs. Nightclub, bar atmosphere with available on site rooms.

Costs: ? Drinks for girls.

Girls: ? Each girl negotiates her price.

Pros: Get to see the girls beforehand. Can see who is working via website, could make appointment with specific girl.

Cons: Drinks for girls are expensive.

Best option: Maxim-Wein.

Questions:

What is the typical cost range for the girls?

Do you have to buy the girl a drink for a short chat to negotiate?
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Escorts. Outcall to your hotel.

Costs:

Girls: 120-200 euro an hour.

Pros: Girls straight to your place at a pre-arranged time.

Cons: Don't get to see the girls beforehand. Could be bait & switch or photoshopped pictures.

Best option: [URL]http://www.wienescort.at/[/URL].