Vienna

[Sirioja]

At least, no big upselling at Wellcum and Andiamo. Sad for GT where I really enjoyed on Summer 2020 , except for foods, entry is too expensive for foods low quality.

[Shark16]

Massimo,

Thanks for sharing your insights. Very helpful as always.

Wish the best for Vienna.

- S16.

[Massimo Potente]

If that is a trend, then that is not sustainable. But maybe you visited on a Monday or Tuesday (off days)?

If not, are we seeing the slow death of Goldentime? They are in the lead among FKK clubs with regard to the new business model with higher and higher prices and at the same time a decline in service levels.

8 years ago I made my first visit to GT. 60E/30 with DFK/BBBJ/DATY and CFS included. Not as a standard service, but not that hard to find with a little bit of effort. Can you imagine?

To quote a fellow monger on a similar subject: Steep price growth coupled with a decline in service levels is the worst of all worlds. Goldentime since 2016 should be a case study for MBA students.

Monday and Tuesday in October are not Off Days. At least they didn't use to be. In 2010 on any given Monday you would have twice the amount of clients in GT than what you see now on a Thursday or Friday.

I don't know why anybody is surprised by that. If you have half a grip on what is happening with the prices in most of Vienna's clubs, then you already know that the girls are by now clearly the price-makers and have full authority to do whatever they want.

Every position change and every small service is 50 more. Not just in GT. Also on Booksusi the indipendents do the same and in some studios like Residenz.

There are exactly 2 clubs which do not play that game and refuse to allow the girls to make their own prices and those are Babylon and Maxim. That's it.

And most reputable escort agencies also hold the fort but that is about it.

I estimate that 30% of clubs, Laufhauses and studios have closed in the last 2-3 years and there will be more. They just don't know it yet or still have hope. But there is none because it is an impossible situation these days. As a club you have to justify why your place is worth working there.

Always remember what normal FKK prices are. Half an hour 60 or 70 or 80 if you are generous. A bit more in Switzerland where they earn twice as much.

But in GT it is north of 350 per hour if you want to have fun. That is not what a Saunaclub promised us it would be.

But of course the owner of GT could also say: "You can't have your cake and eat it, too" If you want a big selection of ladies, here you go. That he selected the sharkiest ones he could find in all of the German speaking countries is just part of the deal.

In short: it is not sustainable but we don't know when the collapse will come. We only know that it will inevitably come.

And since I am rambling, let's go one step further and blame ourselves as well. Don't think that this is not as well the customer's fault in a way. In particular the FKK customer who is always comparing FKKs from all over Europe putting the pressure on.

"Is the lineup as good as Sharks, or Oase or Globe or Oceans or Mainhattan or Wellcum or fill in any generic Saunaclub name. I have had better in Dubai, Vegas and Monte Carlo. " WE have forgotten is just one city and not responsible for what is going on in other places.

[Shark16]

I was at GT last week and spent all day there. Its unbelievalbe how empty it was. It was no more than 10 other customers all day until 8 pm when I left, which is very little for this time of the year. e.

If that is a trend, then that is not sustainable. But maybe you visited on a Monday or Tuesday (off days)?

If not, are we seeing the slow death of Goldentime? They are in the lead among FKK clubs with regard to the new business model with higher and higher prices and at the same time a decline in service levels.

8 years ago I made my first visit to GT. 60E/30 with DFK/BBBJ/DATY and CFS included. Not as a standard service, but not that hard to find with a little bit of effort. Can you imagine?

To quote a fellow monger on a similar subject: Steep price growth coupled with a decline in service levels is the worst of all worlds. Goldentime since 2016 should be a case study for MBA students.

[HelloTitty]

I was at GT last week and spent all day there. Its unbelievalbe how empty it was. It was no more than 10 other customers all day until 8 pm when I left, which is very little for this time of the year. As we all know, the girls charge there whatever they like and this haven't changed. Some of them even want up to 200 for half an hour. The girls will always be charging that much if nothing changes because that's the only way for them to make profit. Nevertheless, I had a good experience as I had many girls to choose from because no other customers were there.

[Lucky Nuts]

Hope this is the right place to post a report on Goldentime FKK as I haven't done any reading here to see if there's a special FKK thread.

Traveling around Europe and stopped in Vienna for a couple days for some good eating and see some girls. Visited Goldentime for two nights and sessioned with three girls. First just to mention the cover charge is 95 euros. Doesn't seem to matter when you enter it's always the same. Beer and wine chips cost $5 and you buy them at the front desk. The beer sucks unless you like warm beer with lots of foam. The white wine is Pinot Grigio and quite good. The red is just ok but I don't know what it is. The food was good both nights but no vegetables served except the lettuce salad.

So anyhow I only like girls under 50 kilo or 110 pounds. Well I would see bigger girls for free but if I'm paying I prefer them smaller. I was pleasantly surprised to find a few available while visiting on week nights and not weekends. I sessioned 3 girls in the two nights and I think their names are Vanessa, Sonya, and Serena. I believe all were no more than 50 kilos although Sonya might have been one or two over but still a tight body. The best attitude once the room door closed was Vanessa and I even tipped her for being so nice. Just a very nice girl. Serena was a very close second in attitude and with Sonya the whole experience felt mechanical. She just never chilled and acted like a girlfriend which is what I expect for the money paid.

Sonya offered 100 for basic service or 150 for basic plus kissing. Blow job w / o condom was not an option with her. So I chose basic service 30 minutes 100 euro.

Vanessa offered 100 for basic service or 150 for basic plus blow job no condom. Kissing was not an option she offers at any price. So I chose basic service 30 minutes for 100 euro.

Serena offered 100 for basic service or 150 for both BBBJ and kissing and encouraged DATY. Took the 150 deal. Her attitude and kissing was very good in the room. BBBJ just ok.

In terms of overall looks I'd rate Serena the highest as she has a very pretty face and a perfect body (46 kilos) for my taste. Sonya would be a close second in hotness and Vanessa a not close third.

Bottom line I felt privledged to session all three girls and look forward to my next stopover in Vienna.

[Tintin1]

I meant that the percentage of pretty girls in GT was as good as sharks. Lineup was not big, should be around 40-50 girls.

I never have a problem finding 2 to 3 girls I would be happy to take up to a room. And yes, prices can be a bit higher in Vienna than NRW / Hessen, but if you're there you might as well sit back and enjoy.

[NoMoneyNoHony]

What fo you mean?

How many girls in GT? Now sharks have 150 girls in weekends. Does GT have big line up? how many pretty young girls ? how is the vibe ?

I meant that the percentage of pretty girls in GT was as good as sharks. Lineup was not big, should be around 40-50 girls.

[HelloTitty]

Went to Maxim last week. Paid 20 euros entry fee and went inside. Lady at the bar counter told me that I have to buy a drink and only then girls will approach me. Ordered a beer. Barely 4-5 girls were there. Price was 170430 and 220460. Didn't like the vibes and girls were also average so finished the beer and quickly left the place and went to Goldentime.

In and out with one beer and quickly leaving is not a waste of time but probably a strategic rookie mistake. Obviously more girls were on the venue but were surely busy and would've been back with a little patience.

[Tuber19]

quickly left the place and went to Goldentime. Was pleasantly surprised by the line up at Goldentime which seemed as good as sharks'..

What fo you mean?

How many girls in GT? Now sharks have 150 girls in weekends. Does GT have big line up? how many pretty young girls ? how is the vibe ?

[NoMoneyNoHony]

Went to Maxim last week. Paid 20 euros entry fee and went inside. Lady at the bar counter told me that I have to buy a drink and only then girls will approach me. Ordered a beer. Barely 4-5 girls were there. Price was 170430 and 220460. Didn't like the vibes and girls were also average so finished the beer and quickly left the place and went to Goldentime. Was pleasantly surprised by the line up at Goldentime which seemed as good as sharks'. Food was average though. Picked a tall romanian for 100430. Except the CBJ, service was good. Got BBBJ from a looker in Sharks for the same price.

[Ydoolb]

Sort of stupid question but I was under the impression that shakti at (massage parlor site) has a sister site where the same girls offer sex services. I think I had the link but I lost it. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

[Sirioja]

The simple advantage of Frankfurt is the proximity of so many clubs! Vienna has the more diverse offerings than Zurich, if you are there multiple days but Frankfurt has the lowest prices of the three.

If you are looking for natural then you might be forced to go to the pricier clubs, silicone seems to be the ruling theme at Globe. But probably more attractive faces than at GT.

Again you asking a broad question with limited information. Are you talking beginning of week, weekend? Accurate description of the girls. On a Friday at Sharks you can have any size shape or hair color. And personally. I wouldn't return to Oase with your wallet in my pocket let alone spend MY OWN money.

You mean more attractive faces at Globe than at GT Vienna? When this is a big problem for me at Globe, too heavy make up and duck lips for porn look. I find prettier more natural faces in Germany, Hessen is not best, than at Globe.

[Tintin1]

Can someone give me an accurate description of goldentime girls vs globe zurich and FKK oase and sharks.

I'm trying to find the right location for a trip in November but what I'm hearing about sharks oase and globe zurich doent sound very inspiring.

In particular does goldentime have the younger more natural looking girls?

Is 200// HR a realistic price with DFK and BBJ??

Many thanks.

The simple advantage of Frankfurt is the proximity of so many clubs! Vienna has the more diverse offerings than Zurich, if you are there multiple days but Frankfurt has the lowest prices of the three.

If you are looking for natural then you might be forced to go to the pricier clubs, silicone seems to be the ruling theme at Globe. But probably more attractive faces than at GT.

Again you asking a broad question with limited information. Are you talking beginning of week, weekend? Accurate description of the girls. On a Friday at Sharks you can have any size shape or hair color. And personally. I wouldn't return to Oase with your wallet in my pocket let alone spend MY OWN money.

[StarletVoyager]

Thank you for the reply! I have tried to look around, but not found that forum about Asian studios that you mentioned. Can you help me find where it is?

And if you, or someone else, visited any of them let me know if it is worth going there or not!

Is 200// HR a realistic price with DFK and bbj??