Minsk

Turkish man; it's not a must for you.
To spend your time in a western culture.
If somebody doesn't like me; I stay away.

[QUOTE=Vag Venator;1166443]Where do you find these girls? And how much does it cost to sponsor them? I would prefer online places as I do not like night clubs / discos etc.[/QUOTE]The sponsor thing is rather big in FSU. It is a more gentle form of prostitution for both parts, but can be costly depending on the girl and how experienced she is to the game. Quite often these girls are young students without work or with a badly payed job. Some girls will do it for gifts only, and some for the combination of gifts and small money, and some will go for the very expensive gifts and rather big money. Quite often the stunners know their value and will cost you more. Occasionally you find beauties that are not experienced "spoilt" or fresh first timers. These are the diamonds, if you are lucky to find them.

Gifts comes in all forms, ranging from perfumes to fancy exotic trips. There are no fixed rules, and it is up to you and your skills to negotiate a good deal, and up to the girl and how keen she is on you and how desperate she is. In general it is easier if you are a business man, and with a nice manners, and visiting the country often, than if you are a first time visitor. (or tourist) One should also try to blend in a lot of charm, and a "fresh" sponsor girl will feel more comfortable, and more like she is your girlfriend. She will feel like she is your girl, the only difference is that you will help her a bit which makes her feel much better. I have only had a few sponsored girls, and I'm not that experienced as other members might be in this area. I know a few girls that intially have told me that they need help "pomosh" but have later withdrawn that and felt ashamed of herself for telling me. And hence after that has meet me without any requests about money. That means that it can pay off to be nice to them and not to treat them as a piece of meat only or a "prostitutka".

These girls can be found on internet sites and / or by contacts (insider info). Start with Mamba. Ru and sites like that. There are girls with profiles and photos. Use a translator programme and contact them. However it will take some time to sort out the goodies from bad seeds. For a "rookie" it will be harder unless you are skilled. For those with business in Belarus or frequent visitors it is easier. I would say that it takes a few visits to build up a network. Usually I do not search for "sponsored" girls, but I make exceptions occasionally if they are very beautiful or nice looking and kinky. Still nothing beats the pure amatuers. And with their personality, and GFE. Thats my game.

Cheers.

Felix

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic;1168409]Why does some scandinavian tourists have bad reputation in Austria?[/QUOTE]I am sure they (we) are all misunderstood by "ze real nazis". . Mate, I really appreciate your posts about Belarus. I was there a couple of years ago and look to go back soon. Great place, but intel is vital as always. Tack!

Barba

[QUOTE=Steve German; 1168418]Turkish man; it's not a must for you.

To spend your time in a western culture.

If somebody doesn't like me; I stay away.[/QUOTE]Could you please write in English?

We who speak English don't understand what hell you are trying to say.

First post on this site!

I am looking for a little advice from people like 'Felix Nordic' or anyone with any knowledge on the subject. Last summer was my first real 'mongering' in the FSU and I enjoyed some wonderful success with a couple Ukrainian beauties / students. I really enjoyed my time in Kyiv and have even lined up a few freebies via the internet and I am sure will pan out with little difficulty.

However. I am very interested in Minsk, Belarus. I've worked the internet pretty good and have been speaking with a number of lovely Belarusian women. The problem I am having is I am just not sure how safe or wise it is to visit this country. Of course I will avoid the demonstrations and any sight of protest I will quickly retreat elsewhere, but how wise is it to visit a country where my own country has pulled out its embassy (Canada)? I have heard the streets are clean and safe (which is more than I can say for Kyiv) but how safe is it for English speaking foreigner in this backwards country?

Any advice? Should I play is safe and go to Kyiv or take a great adventure and go to Minsk? Money is not a problem.

Hi there.

We (6-people gang) going to have a sex-tour to Eastern Europe. We have got options in Poland, Ukraine and Hungary already. We would also like to visit Belarus.

Here's a problem. We have money but not time. We going to spend only one night in Minsk. Maybe a little bit more. We don't have time for hanging out.

Could someone help with. Leisure time? It would be cool to organize a trip out of town.

Maybe you can share contacts of people who could assist us in Minsk?

Money is not a problem.

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[QUOTE=GandJim; 1043024]For those of you who are presently preparing a trip to Minsk and wonder where in hell you can obtain a travel insurance from a Belarus insurance co before you leave, you don't have to. You can get it at Minsk airport when you get out of the plane, before you go through passport control. There are a couple of booths and it's dirt cheap. I usually stay 3-4 weeks on each visit (for business) and it costs about 10-15 USD each time.

Jim[/QUOTE]Hey Jim,

Do you find Minsk expensive? I am a Canadian planning a trip there in September for one month. Now, I am not reall on a budget but I am considering a trip to Kiev again instead of Minsk. What are your thoughts? My trip is basically for mongering.

I appreciate any help or advice you can offer!

Kiev is much better option than Minsk especially if it's your first trip in FSU.

Here Belarus sub-forum has 722 reports and Ukraine thread sub-forum has 15, 862 reports.

Guess why is like that.

[QUOTE=Kurenda; 1178838]Kiev is much better option than Minsk especially if it's your first trip in FSU.

Here Belarus sub-forum has 722 reports and Ukraine thread sub-forum has 15, 862 reports.

Guess why is like that.[/QUOTE]You make a fair point, Kurenda. I was in the Ukraine last summer for one month and had a lot of success meeting women. I just thought with how segregated Belarus is and how screwed up their economy and political system is I would have more luck. Have you been to both cities?

[QUOTE=CanadianBoy;1176662]Any advice? Should I play is safe and go to Kyiv or take a great adventure and go to Minsk? Money is not a problem.[/QUOTE]I was in Minsk for a couple of nights once and loved the place. Went to a two regular nightclubs and made contact with some fantastic females. Minsk is very exotic IMHO. Really would like to visit again.

One partner told me that Minsk is 100% safe as long as you do not enter politics, but I have now idea about the safety at the moment.

All the best / Barba

[QUOTE=Barba; 1180430]I was in Minsk for a couple of nights once and loved the place. Went to a two regular nightclubs and made contact with some fantastic females. Minsk is very exotic IMHO. Really would like to visit again.

One partner told me that Minsk is 100% safe as long as you do not enter politics, but I have now idea about the safety at the moment.

All the best / Barba[/QUOTE]Thanks Barba!

I have zero interest in getting involved with their politics and in fact I quietly hope Belarus stays under the control of that Lukashenko fool so Belarus will continue to be a unusual / unpopular destination for tourists. I have spoken with a number of women from different websites and they've definitely shown a lot of interest in the idea of my heading to Minsk. So, Belarus is still in the cards alothough I have a deep love for all things Kyiv, Ukraine.

Minsk is getting cheaper. Prices for local drinks are still the same as they were two month ago but USD has risen from 3100 BYR to 6500 now. It was 6200 a week ago. People expect further devaluation up to 8000 BYR. So, anyone who is a hard currency holder will be fine.

As for safety, Minsk is really calm if we are talking about street crimes. Especially, against foreign tourists. Haven't heard about it for a long time. Maybe, it's because foreigners in Minsk are a bit scared, feel uncomfortable and don't want to leave center of the city. Do not know why is that. One Holland guy told me Minsk frightens him because the city is empty. True, if you are first time in Minsk you'll be surprised with very few people on the streets.

[QUOTE=MinskGuide;1181398]True, if you are first time in Minsk you'll be surprised with very few people on the streets.[/QUOTE]And then you visit Scandinavia outside the "cities" and experience what is perceived as nuclear winter by most visitors. If you are lucky you might see a curtain move if you walk by a house.

I plan to go back to Minsk soon, simply because I have the opportunity to do so with business as an excuse. Are you really a Minsk guide, MinskGuide? I always enjoy to meet someone that knows the scene. A bit like fishing. You can do it yourself and there is great joy in your own discoveries, but if you are on a schedule, a guide will with 100% certainty result in more and bigger trouts.

I will browse back the forum for some advice on where to stay. Stayed in a large fancy hotel last time, where I had a 200 € caviar serving from the tip of the tea spoon, and this time I will stay and eat in accordance with my budget instead.

B.

[QUOTE=MinskGuide;1181398]the city is empty. True, if you are first time in Minsk you'll be surprised with very few people on the streets.[/QUOTE]Here now and yes it is empty. It's quite strange.

[QUOTE=Fsu123;1181558]Here now and yes it is empty. It's quite strange.[/QUOTE]Explanation is simple. During WW2 Minsk was totally destroyed. Instead of rebuilding the city (like, for example, Warsaw did) the authorities decided to build the city center from a scratch. There are a lot of controversy about it. Some people says the historical buildings should have been reconstructed but it 's too late to discuss. What we have now is long Independence Avenue and city center have been built according to some architectural standards. Don't ask me what standards. The only thing I know it is about buildings with no more than 5 stores and wide streets. Must be some kind of proportion or something. That gives visual effect of space.

Strangely enough, but Minsk is actually a very densely populated city. Its population is three times higher that in Vilnues on the same territory. If you ask: "Where are people then?" I would advise to go to mikrorayons (small districts, I can't call them suburbia as they are part of the city).