Berlin

[QUOTE=Geryon; 1156446].

Betty seemed very sweet at first, tall blond with small tits (which I like) , but as soon as we got into the room she became a robot. Clothes off, she tried to upsell me 20 euros for kissing and BBJ.

[/QUOTE]1) Normally, the house KD did not have a policy about extras for kisses and BBJ (services that need extras are listed in "Financial Conditions" ( KD_fin_cond.jpg) )

2) According to KD's web page, Betty is new ( KD_Betty_new*.jpg ) in this house (but probably not new in the profession) so may be she did not know KD's policy yet?

[QUOTE=Lexb; 1156932]For p4p in and around Berlin BUT, IMO, this, potential, quality (age range and physical condition) of WG, will, probably, only be available at "upscale" (meaning expensive) venues like "appointment only" escorts, FKKs and massage parlours.

Working in a Red Light District and a PTT will, probably, be deamed "beneath" the dignity of most university student SPs!

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110518/lf_nm_life/us_germany_odd_prostitution[/url][/QUOTE]I am not sure that you are right about it just benefiting the upper scale of Berlin p4p. This story really seems to be making the rounds at the moment and has appeared in every local paper. That means lots of exposure and lots of you women, who might have been considering it, deciding to take the plunge however they think about it. For those interested it might do to keep an eye on such websites as Kaufmich and Poppen where these student indy's are likely to appear.

Anyway, just some speculation.

AM

[QUOTE=Geryon; 1156446].

I emailed Kamila about a week before I arrived in Berlin to schedule some time, and never got a response. Then 3 days before I arrived in Berlin, I called, and I was told to call back on Sunday once the schedule had been set. I called on Sunday, and scheduled an appointment with Bo. I was told to call today half an hour before my appointment to confirm. I called to confirm, was told that Bo not coming in when I had scheduled her. Grr.

[/QUOTE]From my happy and unhappy experiences with KD, I propose

1) to consider that KD is a company with different departments, among them, the department "Escort" and the department "incalls at Blissestrass".

2) to be warned that these departments work separately.

3) to use exclusively phone calls (no email, no sms) for contacts with the department "Incalls"

4) to use phone calls or email (no sms) for the first contacts with the department "Escorts" (after these first contacts, sms could be used but with another phone number unpublished on the web site and given to us by KD )

5) to use the schedule just as "forecast" information (for many of the ladies, this job is a "hidden" job so we can imagine that it's not easy for them to postpone events (they did not expect) in their "normal" life just for KD's clients. Furthermore, some of them are single mothers so we can imagine easily that if their children get sick, they won't come to work ... etc ....)
Let's notice that the web site warns that the published schedule is "without obligation" (see appended jpeg file)

[Quote=Angus Magee]I am not sure that you are right about it just benefiting the upper scale of Berlin p4p. This story really seems to be making the rounds at the moment and has appeared in every local paper. That means lots of exposure and lots of you women, who might have been considering it, deciding to take the plunge however they think about it. For those interested it might do to keep an eye on such websites as Kaufmich and Poppen where these student indy's are likely to appear.

Anyway, just some speculation. [/Quote]You're "preaching to the choir", BTW but the websites you mentioned. I wouuld assume, based on what you wrote, that these are where incall / outcall escorts advertise = BIG MONEY (at least for my budget, anyway!)

Correct me if I'm wrong, please but I would be just thrilled if any of them ended up in red light districts!

[QUOTE=Lexb; 1158380]You're "preaching to the choir", BTW but the websites you mentioned. I wouuld assume, based on what you wrote, that these are where incall / outcall escorts advertise = BIG MONEY (at least for my budget, anyway!)

Correct me if I'm wrong, please but I would be just thrilled if any of them ended up in red light districts! [/QUOTE]Well I do not have any personal experience with Kaufmich but I do monitor the German forum and see what goes on with the girls listed there. Plenty are working for agencies and / or small bordellos. But there are also indys who advertise there. For those interested you really do (in my opinion) have to look closely at the ads and try to determine which are which. It does not hurt to have access to the German forums either.

I doubt the student body (pun intended) will end up at the RLD. For one reason Berlin does not have an RLD per se. If you mean end up on the stroll (strassenstrich) I hope not as this is really the bottom end.

Truth is I agree with you in that I do not think that this student story means a great influx of cheap talent. Maybe just an influx of talent at a few level from mid to high end.

[QUOTE=Coloneldecker; 1156323]I was in Berlin last week so here are my mongering experiences.

I tried to go to Club Elfen but I couldn't find it. I'm aware that it's above McDonalds but I just could not find the buzzer. Maybe I'm blind but I just could not see it, so I went to Club Mac, which is just a short stroll away. I found their doorbell no problem, the housefrau answered and led me into a dark and dingy room. She explained that it's fifty euros for thirty mins, including BBBJ. Three girls were presented to me. I selected Lusy, the best looking and youngest, but was informed that she was not available? Why show her to me then? I settled for Sylvie, a slighly rough looking Bulgarian, around thirty years old. She tried to put a condom on me straight away. I pointed out that I had paid for BBBJ so, with a sigh, she led me to the sink and washed my meat. I got pretty hard while she rubbed my prick with soap and warm water. She gestured with the palm of her hand and said "kontrol kontrol", which I think is Bulgarian for "don't cum in my mouth you sleazy bastard". She then inspected my cock from every angle for around a minute before taking it in her mouth for a sweet BBBJ, just as I was ready to cum, she rolled a condom on then bent over for some doggy style. As soon as I entered her gaping vulva she started all this corny fake gruntin' and groanin' that I found kinda distracting so I got her to finish me off by hand. This place was pretty sleazy and sordid, just like me! Not the best fifty smackers I've ever spent but not the worst either.

! [/QUOTE]As posted in April I also could not find Club Elfen there. Can someone give more info on where it is. I was more satisfied with Mac though.

Hi.

[url]http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/ewa.htm[/url]

I have used this agency a few times, mostly successfully. Ewa is not as pretty or as fresh-faced as she looks in her pics. She is at the end of a 10-month 'tour of duty' here in Berlin, and it shows. She is tall, quite pretty, with huge pendulous natural tits. The not-so-good news is that she has developed something of a belly and is clearly somewhat jaded. Kissing appeared to be off the menu. BBBJ was adequate. Fucking her on her back was a treat however, with those massive tits flying about, and on those grounds alone I was happy enough with what was on the whole a minimum-standard encounter. No repeat for me. Not especially recommended.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-corinna.html[/url]

Altogether better was Corinna. Latest recruit at the KZ agency. This agency has a talent-spotting system that Barcelona FC would be proud of. I have had 6 or 7 of their cuties over the last two years and Corinna is a stellar addition to the stable. Slight, with a pretty round face, an engaging smile, perky tits, a round tush and all-in-all a much cuter, sweeter girl-next-door package than her vampy photos would suggest. She is at that perfect stage between enthusiastic novice and skilled pro. Somebody has taught her the basics but she is not yet the finished article (and much the more intruiging for that). BBBJ was soft, wet and sensual. She responded to some deft finger-work on my part followed by some delicious DATY. She seemed to suddenly back off just as she appeared about to come. I fucked her in mish. I wanted to try her in a few positions but couldn't hold back.

A terrific-value punt@120Euros. Recommended, especially for teenie fans. Despite the vast age gap (I'm so ashamed!) , we seemed to establish some sort of connection. A certain repeat for me.

Two wholly different encounters in the space of 24 hours that serve once again to illustrate the random nature of escort visits. With Ewa, a moderate session and with Corinna a terrific outing. How does one filter one's research to promote the likelihood of the latter and militate against the former? I wish I knew. My guess is that, aside from recommendations on forums such as these, you just have to throw the dice and hope. Buying into the escort sector of the market is a risky business. Not my idea of 'safe sex' at all. One thing is for sure. 60 seconds after the girl enters the room, I know how the session is going to turn out. That's the great advantage of Artemis. You get that crucial minute or so to make up your mind.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Geryon; 1156446]Went to Kamilla La Dee today and had a pretty terrible time. After reading so many glowing reports here about KD, I'm rather befuddled.

Etc.

Once arriving I was presented with 3 ladies. Betty, Nathalie and Marie. I chose Betty as the best looking of the bunch. I think I prefer Artemis where you can get to know a bit more about the girl before you head off to the room. Betty seemed very sweet at first, tall blond with small tits (which I like) , but as soon as we got into the room she became a robot. Clothes off, she tried to upsell me 20 euros for kissing and BBJ. The kissing was once and briefly, and the BBJ lasted about ten seconds and then the rest was awkward mechanical fucking. I was glad to take the half hour because her mushi was definitely smelly, there was no attempt to even look like she was enjoying it. I ended halfway just asking for a handjob because it was not worth spending anymore time doing it with her.

Once it was finally over, she jetted out of the room. The housefrau came in and asked me how I enjoyed myself. I mumbled "it was okay" and got out of there. [/QUOTE]May be you can write to the "escort department" (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/contact.htm[/url]

) to talk about your story and ask Kira (see appended jpg) which ladies she would advise you according to your wishes.

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[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1159315]May be you can write to the "escort department" (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/contact.htm[/url]

) to talk about your story and ask Kira (see appended jpg) which ladies she would advise you according to your wishes. [/QUOTE][b]1) To Geryon [/b]

Did you see[b] At the end [/b]of this KD's web page :

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/concept.htm[/url]

[i]

Etc.

In a case of frustration you may exspect to get a voucher from us, usually over the amount due to the house. That means 36- EUR if for example you gave 80- EUR in all for half an hour. On the money for the girl we cannot decide. But in cases of very heavy disappointment we give even a voucher over the complete money = 80- EUR / half hour.

Etc. [/i]

[b]2) To all[/b]

About appointments, there are new rules :

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/appointment.htm[/url]

I don't know when these new rules did take place : just notice that with the new rules an appointment (at Blissestrass) will need at least 2 phone calls, the second is for confirmation.

this report is from a visit to kd in february. was originally written in danish (also a bit longer with some text about kd) and i did not have the time (and forgot) to translate it for this board:

this day there are six girls in the parade. paloma (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/paloma.htm[/url]

) is the most smiling of all of them. both the body and aura are in reality similar to the images on the website. i get confirmed that she kisses and after payment we go upstairs for an hour of fun. i grab a quick shower and i lie down naked on the bed when i return to the room.

paloma arrives, i turn around, and sitting on the bed i pull her over to me and i smell her belly skin. she turns around, bends over, and i put my hands up her back. i'm getting hard, and i get up so she can feel my penis between her buttocks. put my hands on her small breasts and her nipples respond quickly to my touch. she turns around, kissing me deeply while i get an euphoric dizziness in the head, no, in the entire body.

her panties are removed slowly. i feel her heat and moisture with one hand. we lie down on the bed in hot embrace and kissing. she climbs slowly over my body, kissing it and has, without my noticing, found a condom, which she puts on and she continues with a wet blowjob. with a few signals i get her turned into daty of mutual enjoyment. the smell and the taste is pure. we do this a while before she turns around and i slip into her (she's on top) while she kissed me passionately. it's always hard to tell if the enjoyment is mutual, but it seems so in this moment, and it is a total gfe, as she slowly rides me, bite my lip and looks me in the eyes.

we switch positions a few times before i pull out and come with great help from her mouth and hand. while i lie and sweats she helps me with the rubber and then comes to me and lie down close and kisses me. two sweaty bodies together. slowly the kissing becomes hotter and i'm ready for round two. paloma begins again with a fantastic blowjob. this time, i must stop her and get her in reverse cowgirl. like doggie, this position has a good vision of the woman's ass, while she also has full control of speed and depth. in an acrobatic maneuver i get her turned around so i'm on top, while i take her from behind. i push her down almost flat against the bed while she is pushing up her bum, so i can penetrate her deeply. i put my hands on her ass and it is obvious to heavy stuff for my little guy who gives up.

we lie close together as a couple in love. nurture each other's bodies. it is only now that i think of the time but paloma assures me there is plenty of it left. my head is thinking about another round, but my body says no. since time is slowly running out, i take another shower. return to the room, get dressed, and paloma walks me to the door, where we say goodbye with kisses on the cheek and a little hug. these 60 horizontal minutes with her and her smile when i leave will not leave my mind easily.

I could meet Felicia, Madeleine, Helene, Ella.

I failed to meet Jenifer.

When you ask for appointments, be careful about possibilities of confusion between Helene, Elena, Ella.

Felicia : cute! Cute! Cute!

Helene, Ella : hot! Hot! Hot! (by the way, both of them seemed appreciate DATY)

Felicia : [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/felic-e.htm[/url]

Madeleine : [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/madelai-e.htm[/url]

Helene : [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/helene.htm[/url]

Ella : [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/ella-e.htm[/url]

Personnaly, I find that Ella looks like French actress Claire Keim, girlfriend of Bixente Lizarazu (former member of "Bayern-Munchen" soccer team) : [url]http://www.google.fr/search?q=claire+keim+bixente&hl=fr&prmd=ivnso&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=9zTgTbLLLYbLhAe0mdm7Cg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBAQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=629[/url]

Left friends at a Museum, Saturday 10:15 am, no cash but only credit cards, only support the Iphone. 2 hours max to:

- find cash.

- figure out where to go.

- reach the place, session.

- go back to fetch the friends at the museum, smiling.

The only info I had handy was about Liberty, but the place opens at noon on Saturday, arghhhh. Checked Angus blog, jumped on Berlin intim, googled "brothel near alexander platz" and finally found some info on Tiffany, in Ritterstrasse 11. 3 subway stations from Alexander Platz or a 7 euro taxi ride.

Site looks fine, opens at 10, no time to loose, found a visa cash dispenser, took the taxi.

Access is pretty simple, ring at the door downstairs, get the lift at 4th floor, ring atthe door, all labeled "Tiffany", obviously.

A young fatty, english speaking girl opens the door wearing underwear and takes me through a nearby door where I was told she would let the girl parade so I can choose. Before that she asks me if I have any particular desire or if all girls would be fine. I answered no particular desires. I actually wasn't believing I actually made it to reach a place to session instead of breaking my balls at the Pergamon.

After that, a first girl enters. MILF, thin, very big synthetic boobs, blond short hair, at least 35. Good looking but absolutely not what I was looking for. Named Stefy, german from Berlin.

She leaves and I sit back, in the quite elegant room, waiting for next girl. Nothing happens.

After about a minute, the fatty girl from the entrance comes in smiling and says : "there's only me left, all other girls are booked, if you prefer you can come back later". WTF!

I wouldn't fuck the fatty even with my worst friend's dick and no time to leave the place and look for another so, Stefy.

Took a shower and went in a room, very nice room. She probably upsold a bit with the excuse of kisses and I ended up paying 80 euros, in advance, for a 40 min. Session with kissing.

I was probably the first customer, she really smelt like she just came out of the shower. Gave me a decent BBBJ and was quite sweet throughout the session. DATY. She said no cim but that I could come on her breasts, not something I like. Ended doggy.

A mediocre session that I actually appreciated a lot because of the situation. Took another shower, dressed up and 20 min after I was again in Alexander platz at the UBahn station.

Yesssss!

Tiffany looks like a nice place, very clean. I can't judge the lineup based on 2 girls but I suggest to call before you go there to check how many girls are available.

Flying back tomorrow morning. Sigh.

Kimino

Recently moved to Shoneberg where I discovered I was was exactly halfway between KDs and Liberty. Due to some great reviews here, I've been having myself quite a time at KDs (Sascha!) and now I am curious about Liberty. But I haven't seen too many specific recommendations other than for the place as a whole. Anyone had a great session there recently?

Anyone know any really tall women in Berlin, escort or in-house ladies?

At KD there's a couple. Coco 1, 83, Brigitte 1, 82.

Anyone taller? 8)

L.

[QUOTE=Kafka1;1160222]Recently moved to Shoneberg where I discovered I was was exactly halfway between KDs and Liberty. Due to some great reviews here, I've been having myself quite a time at KDs (Sascha!) and now I am curious about Liberty. But I haven't seen too many specific recommendations other than for the place as a whole. Anyone had a great session there recently?[/QUOTE]Hi,

Sorry I do not have much current info for Liberty. One girl I was very regular with was Romy. But be warned, she is not 19 as states the web page. More like mid twenties. But she is a nice and more importantly very dirty girl if you click with her.

For me Liberty has always been a cheaper alternative to places like KD and VK. More importantly is that they always seem to treat me well. If you chose reasonable carefully you should have a good time there.

AM