Vienna

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2120594]According to what I heard from GT friends she is probably the most recommended girl in GT at the moment or one of the most recommended ones for sure.

If she comes back to GT in January I will give it a go with her as well. The part with her being selective is new to me, though. Reason why I wasn't with her yet despite all the high praise is the fact that she has silicone tits.
[/QUOTE]Hey Massimo,

Isabella should be back from today. Let us know how your time with her went. For me, she definitely is worth the maximum five star rating.

Howie.

Hello all!

I'm going to be visiting Austria in February and wanted to get an idea of the "scene" there. I was surprised to learn that it's legal there which is great news! I hate the idea of doing something illegal.

Anyway, I've browsed a bit of the history of this thread and I've seen that there is a lot of mentioning of sites called Maxim and FKK. I gathered from the context that these are escort agencies or brothels? Are there any websites that are for independent girls? In the States, we use Backpage. Something like that in Austria?

Also, how common is it for girls to speak English. Ich sprache ein bissen Deutsche, aber nicht sehr gut.

Finally, what are the average rates they charge?

Thanks for the response and sorry for all the questions!

MK.

[QUOTE=MadKapa;2124800]Hello all!

I'm going to be visiting Austria in February and wanted to get an idea of the "scene" there. I was surprised to learn that it's legal there which is great news! I hate the idea of doing something illegal.

Anyway, I've browsed a bit of the history of this thread and I've seen that there is a lot of mentioning of sites called Maxim and FKK. I gathered from the context that these are escort agencies or brothels? Are there any websites that are for independent girls? In the States, we use Backpage. Something like that in Austria?

Also, how common is it for girls to speak English. Ich sprache ein bissen Deutsche, aber nicht sehr gut.

Finally, what are the average rates they charge?

Thanks for the response and sorry for all the questions!

MK.[/QUOTE]Assuming you are a normal speed English reader, all your questions would be answered if you spend about 2 hours reading this thread. Happy reading, learning, and then hunting!

First day mongering 2018 I found myself in a tougher spot than expected. Vienna is a bit like that now as far as paidsex is concerned This early in the year.

Maxim is all right, though. More girls on the floor than I thought. All seem fresh, probably vacations became them.

Despite being Friday night and all I am surprised by how many people are here. Pleasant atmosphere and with Julia back I think I know what I will do somewhat later.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2125516]First day mongering 2018 I found myself in a tougher spot than expected. [/QUOTE]I think it is expected to be tougher in January than in other months. But yes, Maxim is already good as far as the number of girls is concerned.

Most other clubs are either closed or very weak. Only the FKKs (except for the weak Fresh club) are already in an OK shape and have enough girls as well. But in terms of classic sexclubs/nightclub brothels Maxim is already your best bet if you are in Vienna now.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2125534]I think it is expected to be tougher in January than in other months. But yes, Maxim is already good as far as the number of girls is concerned..[/QUOTE]I don't know about that. Not sure why people should be less horny than in other months but anyway.

I finally after some waiting time got to catch Julia eventually.

Her hair are red now and she lost some more weight. So she is super fit. In the room she is and has been the real deal. That hasn't changed at all. Wonderful 1 hour session and GFE came naturally.

The time off from work absolutely must've reinforced her recovery. In the end of 2017 she seemed exhausted and not eager to please at all anymore.

Gave me pleasure to see her being back to being herself again.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2125125]Assuming you are a normal speed English reader, all your questions would be answered if you spend about 2 hours reading this thread. Happy reading, learning, and then hunting![/QUOTE]Geez, you know. If you came to my city I'd be happy to copy-paste a link or two for you but if you think it would be better for me to spend 2 hours (not like I'm busy or anything), then, I guess thanks?

[QUOTE=MadKapa;2124800]Hello all!

I'm going to be visiting Austria in February and wanted to get an idea of the "scene" there. I was surprised to learn that it's legal there which is great news! I hate the idea of doing something illegal.

Anyway, I've browsed a bit of the history of this thread and I've seen that there is a lot of mentioning of sites called Maxim and FKK. I gathered from the context that these are escort agencies or brothels? Are there any websites that are for independent girls? In the States, we use Backpage. Something like that in Austria?

Also, how common is it for girls to speak English. Ich sprache ein bissen Deutsche, aber nicht sehr gut.

Finally, what are the average rates they charge?

Thanks for the response and sorry for all the questions!

MK.[/QUOTE]I can help but it will not be a total revelation or anything.

Backpage in Vienna gone through sort of a rebranding and it is now [URL]cracker.com[/URL].

[URL]http://wien.cracker.com/erotik/[/URL]

There are more of those sites but they are often being abused in that girls advertise as being independent and "private" but mostly turn out to be professionals as well. Since you are familiar with backpage, cracker should do the trick for you.

From my POV cracker has almost no market share in Austria. It isn't that well known or popular.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2126825]I can help but it will not be a total revelation or anything.

Backpage in Vienna gone through sort of a rebranding and it is now [URL]cracker.com[/URL].

[URL]http://wien.cracker.com/erotik/[/URL]

There are more of those sites but they are often being abused in that girls advertise as being independent and "private" but mostly turn out to be professionals as well. Since you are familiar with backpage, cracker should do the trick for you.

From my POV cracker has almost no market share in Austria. It isn't that well known or popular.[/QUOTE]Thank you VM for your reply. I'll do a bit of research on my own. It isn't exactly something that you can Google, but I think this is a good starting point.

Cheers,

MK.

Bring cash. ATM in the lobby on the first floor if needed. Headed upstairs. Each girl ahas her own "apartment" with the door open if they are available. You can talk and ask questions. I went with Anka. Big bolt ONS and was open for greek. Decent English and was a real pleaser. Safe play only.

I am generally an FKK guy but I want to try Maxim this time. I read as much as I could and searched the thread but I have a few questions.

1 hour at Maxim I hear is 200 euros: Is it one shot or two possible if time permits? BBJ or CBJ? I may take my GF (she wants to try her first threesome) and how receptive are girls at maxim? Club promotes couples so I assume threesomes are welcome. Will girls charge more for threesome with another girl? Any particular Maxim girls that are into it? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2128066]I am generally an FKK guy but I want to try Maxim this time. I read as much as I could and searched the thread but I have a few questions.

1 hour at Maxim I hear is 200 euros: Is it one shot or two possible if time permits? BBJ or CBJ? I may take my GF (she wants to try her first threesome) and how receptive are girls at maxim? Club promotes couples so I assume threesomes are welcome. Will girls charge more for threesome with another girl? Any particular Maxim girls that are into it? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hey Vitrea,
Nice to see you here.

My take (limited experience / only one visit): Such details vary from girl to girl and need to be agreed in advance.

On my visit to Maxim I made it very clear I wanted DFK / BBBJ included and was told "no problem; plenty girls will be happy to agree, but not all". The girls also encouraged me to be specific about my "dreams and desires" in order to find the right girl for me. It gave the impression that the club expect the girls to be honest about what can be offered in the room in order to meet expectations. The girl I picked did not disappoint at all. A few girls offered exotic stuff at an extra fee (I did not partake at the time). Bringing your own girl or two shots, however, were not discussed.

Another lesson learned was that the specific girl's services described on the club's website did not always match what was offered when in the club. So; much better to have these discussions being one on one with the girls in the bar.

Sorry for not being able to be more helpful, but I am confident the Vienna vets will fill in the gaps.

Have fun!

Bro, that is helpful. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Hope you are doing well and wish you a happy mongering year. :-)

[QUOTE=Shark16;2128117]Hey Vitrea,
Nice to see you here.

My take (limited experience / only one visit): Such details vary from girl to girl and need to be agreed in advance.

On my visit to Maxim I made it very clear I wanted DFK / BBBJ included and was told "no problem; plenty girls will be happy to agree, but not all". The girls also encouraged me to be specific about my "dreams and desires" in order to find the right girl for me. It gave the impression that the club expect the girls to be honest about what can be offered in the room in order to meet expectations. The girl I picked did not disappoint at all. A few girls offered exotic stuff at an extra fee (I did not partake at the time). Bringing your own girl or two shots, however, were not discussed.

Another lesson learned was that the specific girl's services described on the club's website did not always match what was offered when in the club. So; much better to have these discussions being one on one with the girls in the bar.

Sorry for not being able to be more helpful, but I am confident the Vienna vets will fill in the gaps.

Have fun![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2077378]Those upselling attempts have become much worse of late in GT. Although regulars do not feel this at all I know what a pain in the ass this must be for foreigners.

I believe that all clubs which will survice 2017 will prohibit aggressive upselling in the very near future. I know that Maxim generally does not allow it for kissing and OWO and they encourage you to report it to the staff if it occurs. In Babylon the same although this is not even an issue. I also know that GT hasn't struggled with this at all a few years ago and the probs they are having with it now are actually new territory. They seem either to not know how to deal with it or they lost interest in it, seeing that they are still the number 1 saunaclub in Vienna by a big margin. It is so weird to hear about it (upsell attempts) because, I repeat yet again, we as locals do not at all experience this. Especially being regulars and having a different status so to speak.

And as far as the comparison of GT and FP goes. FP has basically admitted defeat in the Saunaclub game. They have turned themselved inside out and are now a budget club. I am not judging. If you feel that paid sex is a thing where you should go out and try to save a buck where ever you can then Vienna is getting better and better. Only a handful of clubs are still doing well, though. There is a massive series of closures coming our way. The brothel next door will cease to exist and girls will become more and more sharky in their behaviour, Mark my words, it is coming end of this summer LOL.[/QUOTE]I was researching Vienna for an upcoming trip and saw your interesting post.

Looking back, has the up selling changed at GT or still the same or worse?

What is the status of FP and other clubs? Your predictions came through or are they doing fine? Just curious. Any new strip clubs?

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2128589]I was researching Vienna for an upcoming trip and saw your interesting post.

Looking back, has the up selling changed at GT or still the same or worse?

What is the status of FP and other clubs? Your predictions came through or are they doing fine? Just curious. Any new strip clubs?[/QUOTE]Personally I can't tell if upselling in GT has become worse because, as I said, regulars don't have that problem at all. I assume, though, that in the early months of the year it might be less of a problem because the girls have less men to choose from. January and February are very slow months for most places.

FP is doing fine, thriving as the budget club that it wants to be now, I try to avoid the place, though. It has a very cheap feel to it nowadays.

Maxim, Babylon and GT are doing pretty well, as expected, so I feel that my predictions weren't far off. Smaller clubs are closing, open again, closing, open again. Like Okaybar and VIP Bar, which try to relaunch with a new brand name. In my opinion it'll all be in vain.

No new stripclubs at all.

The peepshow is doing fine, too. After all, they are a bunch of professionals and know their craft.