Vienna

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2148950]Hi Massimo,

I think if anyone knows the answer it will be you. A while ago when I was in Sharks, some Swiss guy told me that a friend of his was associated with the Sauna Club business in Austria and that they were going to open a lot of new clubs in Austria. That was in 2014 and I never heard anything since, but I think I read on the sex-vienna web site that the owners of the Goldentime chain, if you can call it that, are planning on opening some new clubs in Austria, is that right?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are actually rumours of plenty of new places to be opened but realistically I don't have that much faith in most projects I have heard of.

But there will be at least 2 or 3 new Laufhauses in Vienna soon. One will be a Goldentime Laufhaus and I assume it will be somewhat close to the FKK so either in the 3rd or 11th district is a good guess.

Laufhaus Juchgasse will renovate and the girls will move to the new Laufhaus in Zollergasse (also 3rd district) - this is factual and will happen beginning of April 2018.

In the process of opening Goldentime Leonding there were actually plans to open FKKs in Innsbruck and other cities in Austria as well but I haven't heard anything new about that in years. Also GT Leonding only has a fraction of the success that they want and compared to GT Vienna is a failure. But they are constantly improving so all credit to them for never giving up.

This is what I know. Quite possibly there is much more going on and more plans are being made however most people don't have what it takes to open successful businesses in the sex industry anymore. Hence the huge failures of FRESH, Imperial, and a few bad Laufhauses wasting away.

From what I could tell on my limited viewing of the Austrian clubs, it seems the ambience and decour standard is at a far higher level than what is seen in Germany. Perhaps the Austrian (and Italian) clientelle pays more attention to this than what does the German clientelle, and that is why more clubs and places fail in Austria, while a club like Acapulco without renovation for a lifetime is still going strong in Germany. Both Wellcum and gt Vienna, and from what I can see from pictures, GT Linz / Leonding and Andiamo has all better ambience than anything I've seen anywhere in Germany. Even better than palace ambience, although that place does have competitive ambience too. But of course, getting a good image for your club towards the girls is probably a hard task also if you run a club.

On the other hand even if GT Linz-Leonding isn't a great success yet, the rumors is at least that service there is higher than at GT Vienna. GT Vienna service and the attitude of some of the girls regarding upsells were worse than anything seen in Germany. Anywhere. And it seemed to be a club thing, not just a random girl thing. I think perhaps what GT Vienna could do to help out GT Linz in terms of image of their club brand, would be to fix this. As it gave me and my friends visiting gt a very bad impression. As it is right now, GT Vienna strikes me as the worst tourist trap in Europe. And it makes me cautious in trying more of the vienna market too.

[QUOTE=KingOfTheKill;2149049], I had girl that I was visiting in Artemis that told me, GT is not good and work is not good for her too.[/QUOTE]Was it Aksena by any chance? And if so, how long since you saw her at Artemis? I missed her last month. Fearing she has left.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2149274]On the other hand even if GT Linz-Leonding isn't a great success yet, the rumors is at least that service there is higher than at GT Vienna. GT Vienna service and the attitude of some of the girls regarding upsells were worse than anything seen in Germany. Anywhere. And it seemed to be a club thing, not just a random girl thing. I think perhaps what GT Vienna could do to help out GT Linz in terms of image of their club brand, would be to fix this. As it gave me and my friends visiting gt a very bad impression. As it is right now, GT Vienna strikes me as the worst tourist trap in Europe. And it makes me cautious in trying more of the vienna market too.[/QUOTE]Not too long ago it was the opposite and GT Linz had a far smaller number of good service providers than in Vienna. That is probably still the same for us locals. But sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience and impression there.

I find it way too harsh calling GT a tourist trap but to each his own.

The announced girl Violetta's photos look very professional on her Maxim page. The problem is that whenever I see photos like these, I immediately get sceptical and think they're fake. As far as I can tell and remember Maxim never uses fake photos, so does this mean that this hottie could actually be real?

Opinions or any input, anyone?

[QUOTE=Zorp001;2149542]The announced girl Violetta's photos look very professional on her Maxim page. The problem is that whenever I see photos like these, I immediately get sceptical and think they're fake. As far as I can tell and remember Maxim never uses fake photos, so does this mean that this hottie could actually be real?

Opinions or any input, anyone?[/QUOTE]I just realised I forgot to post the link to Violetta's page. Here are her photos: [URL]http://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/violetta[/URL].

[QUOTE=Zorp001;2149542]The announced girl Violetta's photos look very professional on her Maxim page. The problem is that whenever I see photos like these, I immediately get sceptical and think they're fake. As far as I can tell and remember Maxim never uses fake photos, so does this mean that this hottie could actually be real?

Opinions or any input, anyone?[/QUOTE][URL]http://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/violetta[/URL]

She is announced to arrive on Saturday. We'll have to wait another 2 days for the final verdict on that. But usually they don't use fake photos ever.

Also Alexandra's photos look quite professional but she looks every bit as great as in the photos.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2149274]On the other hand even if GT Linz-Leonding isn't a great success yet, the rumors is at least that service there is higher than at GT Vienna. GT Vienna service and the attitude of some of the girls regarding upsells were worse than anything seen in Germany. Anywhere. And it seemed to be a club thing, not just a random girl thing. I think perhaps what GT Vienna could do to help out GT Linz in terms of image of their club brand, would be to fix this. As it gave me and my friends visiting gt a very bad impression. As it is right now, GT Vienna strikes me as the worst tourist trap in Europe. And it makes me cautious in trying more of the vienna market too.[/QUOTE]I think calling Goldentime the "worst tourist trap in Europe" is a bit of an exaggeration. I've had good, as well as somewhat bad experiences in GT, but it's definitely not a tourist trap whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Zorp001;2150299]I think calling Goldentime the "worst tourist trap in Europe" is a bit of an exaggeration. I've had good, as well as somewhat bad experiences in GT, but it's definitely not a tourist trap whatsoever.[/QUOTE]First impressions may always be wrong of course.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2150452]First impressions may always be wrong of course.[/QUOTE]To be fair, I understand why one would call it that and if you observe some of the GT ladies how they jump and swarm groups of Asians right when they enter the club (not even giving them a chance to settle and get the first drink in hand) I can relate to the sentiment that you have.

But if you overcome the first obstacles, let the experience as a whole sink in and make your own selection, well, this will allow you to form the experience into the shape that you want, more or less.

It's all a question of definition, I think because what is Wellcum if not entirely dedicated to tourist of the Italian variety!? LOL. And yet, I have not heard Wellcum be referred to as a tourist trap.

A sex tourist needs to be wary of where he sets foot regardless where he goes. Girls will try to maximize their earnings if given the chance ALWAYS.

If anyone is looking for Miruna from Goldentime, apparently she is in Maxim now and that after two years of working in GT. She was also in Funpalast and Fresh for a while. This is her first time out of the FKK circle AFAIK, so curious to seeing how she fares there. If you don't already know her, you will notice that she looks almost exactly like Aisha, but with big silicone tits. No pictures on the Maxim website yet.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2150659]It's all a question of definition, I think because what is Wellcum if not entirely dedicated to tourist of the Italian variety!? LOL. And yet, I have not heard Wellcum be referred to as a tourist trap.[/QUOTE]Would you really call it tourism when they only need to drive 2-3 hours? I think it more relates to the difference between a big bustling city like Vienna, and the serene surroundings near Wellcum. A true paradise. Me and McA even stopped by one of these very cute italian cafes / bakeries in Arnoldstein, where happy pensioners met to have their chats. Beautiful weather, clean air, lots of old people laughing and just enjoying a peaceful life. Good authentic food, bicycle riders strolling by, and hardly anyone had any stress. When a club like wellcum is located in such a place, you loose your stress. Even as a working girl. In a big city like Vienna, the bustling streets and active life adds stress. Especially to the girls trying to make money.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2150890]Would you really call it tourism when they only need to drive 2-3 hours? I think it more relates to the difference between a big bustling city like Vienna, and the serene surroundings near Wellcum. A true paradise. Me and McA even stopped by one of these very cute italian cafes / bakeries in Arnoldstein, where happy pensioners met to have their chats. Beautiful weather, clean air, lots of old people laughing and just enjoying a peaceful life. Good authentic food, bicycle riders strolling by, and hardly anyone had any stress. When a club like wellcum is located in such a place, you loose your stress. Even as a working girl. In a big city like Vienna, the bustling streets and active life adds stress. Especially to the girls trying to make money.[/QUOTE]Very well described and yet the Italians are still tourists and without them neither Wellcum nor Andiamo would exist, I think.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2151123]Very well described and yet the Italians are still tourists and without them neither Wellcum nor Andiamo would exist, I think.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/RyYG1rQyQtQ[/URL]

0:51.

I think that was the bakery / cafe. What does he actually say? The narrator and the guy?