Vienna

[QUOTE=MikeOdamerika1;2159248]The website says Goldentime closes at 4:00.

Can I count on it staying open until then on a Friday morning?

The train doesn't head to the airport until 4:30 so I am trying to make sure I can hang out somewhere.[/QUOTE]It is not a 100% certain. I don't know how it is on very bad weekend days but it has happened on many occasions that GT closed early on Sundays and Mondays. But I suppose it would have to be a very very weak Friday for them to decide to close early. I can hardly imagine it happening.

Hello everyone,

So I have been in Vienna last weekend mostly to try out the asian scene. .

Had a chance to visit following places:

1. Vienna Night Club. Währinger Gürtel 12.

First night I have visited just "Vienna Night Club" which was located near to my hotel. That's like a bar, unfortunately there was only 1 girl who doesn't speak English.

Anyways I have decided to take her to the room I do not know what is the name of the girl, she is 27 years old with tattoos on her body. Paid her 70 E for 30 minutes of massage and sex. Her body and her tattoos makes her to look similar as Asa Akira (Asian pornstar), I think she is really hot.

My first session with her was average because I was not able to explain her what I wanted. Even BJ was with a condom, again by my mistake.

On second night I have visited the place again, the same girl was there + one more tall asian girl who was not my type. Also there were there boss as well who is a really cool guy and is able to speak English.

Asked him few questions related to BBBJ and cum on body, he says both are included in 30 minutes. So I have paid him 70 E and took the same girl to the room.

In the room the sex was much better than first night even the message, at the end I wanted to cum on her face but she was scared like I am going to do something scary: the At the end I have finished on her body as agreed.

Conclusion: I would rate this place 4/5. Just because the Asian girl was super hot, the bar and room was clean. Also the place is opened till 4 or 5 AM. Bad thing is that most likely you won't find more than 4-5 girls, keep in mind this is a small Asian bar.

2. Studio 31 a. Stattmayergasse 31 a.

- I have heard a lot of great things about this studio so it was my time to visit it.

To make it short, I have had 2 sessions with a well known Lisa from this studio. I am not sure how old she is, I was told she is the youngest one there.

Both time she did everything to satisfy me, her BBBJ was really good. BBBJ & CIM is included in 30 minutes of standard service (60 E /30 min).

Had a good time with her but right after our session she has just disappeared from the toom.

Conclusion: I would rate this place 4/5. I have seen Lisa only and I can see she is a nice young girl who will do almost everything to satisfy you. Looks like a clean studio but there is one thing I do not like.

I feel like girls has no or little time to rest between the sessions with customers. Not sure If Lisa is that popular or that is the case with all the girls. Anyways I would still suggest you to visit this studio If you are interested in asian girls, this is probably one of the best in Vienna at the moment.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2158872]Well Carinthia with Klagenfurt and Villach has a bit over 500 000 people. It should be enough to at least be 15% of the population. One guy I met was from south of Salzburg. Distance to Graz is about the same as to Salzburg. So people drive quite a bit for this club. 5 hours for one guy living in Tuscany. That's like Berlin. Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Italians, like me, don't have FKK / clubs in our countries. Not anymore escorts golden years in Milano, nor Roma, not often now in Paris, even mid March was real Christmas with 4 Russian beauties met in Paris, then I preferred to repeat with my dreamed Siberian, rather than going to a fifth real beauty. I wish she will return to me on May, after her London tour.

So Italians drive now to Switzerland through Gottard and Wellcum via Tarvisio, because less top escorts at home. Even I really enjoyed my Eve, I would not drive only for Wellcum, when as long I can, I will always drive through Dolomiti from Stelvio and Mortirolo to Zoncolan, for only 10.5 kms climbing, but sometimes more than 25% climbing, 23% in Mortirolo, for less than 1 h30 for body and head burning like in hell, heart in red zone, 160/180 pulses per minutes for kilometers, but after terrible fourth kilometers, You are not able to feel pain everywhere. On August 2016, I climbed at noon under heat, losing all my body water, then I returned to Wellcum at about 4 pm. When she saw me, Natali. Hu I had in room on previous day, came to me asking me if I wanted her, but I couldn t even answer, because I couldn't breathe, speak, eat, I needed to recover until later than 10 pm, then it was too late for Natali, but I returned on next day to improve my climbing time in Zoncolan. Again improved on 2017.

Then so easy to fuck girls for hours, when You are fit and getting older but sporty, then you improve your body resistance to efforts, higher level for intense than stamina. Passion makes work mind.

Does anybody here has a list of recommended escort agencies for future reference?

As I have been in the neighbourhood of this Laufhaus I made a pit stop to see what is new. Juchgasse is an item in the media currently as they will soon open a 2nd branch in Zollergasse which is close by. Also in the 3rd district. They are currently raising attention with fake news articles some of which claim that up to 200 girls will be there. That is utter nonsense for sure but people are sheep and easily manipulated therefore this made for a pretty good news piece even though it couldn't be further from the truth.

Well, it is too early now to really inspect Juchgasse. Most rooms have the red sign Indicating busy or absent girls. I'll come back later. And don't judge me, for I know that by reputation Juchgasse is notorious and maybe the worst house of them all. Taking a look only because I am already here. Rihanna who is available now has gotten horrible reviews on the local forum is one of the few ones who is ready to f.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2160769]As I have been in the neighbourhood of this Laufhaus I made a pit stop to see what is new. Juchgasse is an item in the media currently as they will soon open a 2nd branch in Zollergasse which is close by. Also in the 3rd district. They are currently raising attention with fake news articles some of which claim that up to 200 girls will be there. That is utter nonsense for sure but people are sheep and easily manipulated therefore this made for a pretty good news piece even though it couldn't be further from the truth.

Well, it is too early now to really inspect Juchgasse. Most rooms have the red sign Indicating busy or absent girls. I'll come back later. And don't judge me, for I know that by reputation Juchgasse is notorious and maybe the worst house of them all. Taking a look only because I am already here. Rihanna who is available now has gotten horrible reviews on the local forum is one of the few ones who is ready to f.[/QUOTE]The new location will be at Zollgasse, not Zollergasse. Zollgasse is very good location, near Innere Stadt nad Wien Mitte (shopping center, metro and rail station) and not far away from Juchgasse.

Due to some very inefficient planning and last minute cancellations, I had a lot more free time on my hands than I had expected. Although there are a lot of options and many of them shockingly visible in the city, I wouldn't say Vienna is a good place for sex tourism. It's just so spread out, and you need to do a bunch of homework to find many of the places. In the end I visited a bunch of studios and got to go to the two big sauna clubs. I found myself behaving a bit like a tourist. The sex wasn't particularly good and overpriced really, but I felt mostly interested in how things would be, and so kept on trying things out. More for educational purposes than to get off almost. I didn't make it to Maxim because of timing issues, it opening late and me starting early the next day, and a line-up that didn't seem that interesting. I was kind of annoyed to find out that a handful of interesting girls had returned the day I flew home. I wish the trip had been a day longer, so I could have had a go at Alexandra. Not in the least because I seem to have spent that morning with her "best friend". In some typical post coital picture swiping, there suddenly were some normal life pictures of the two of them, after which I was asked if I knew Alexandra: "She's in Maxim, right?" "Yeah, you should visit her too! With a recommendation like that, what could have gone wrong!? She wasn't planning to follow her friend BTW, because of the crappy earnings. Kind of a surprise to hear, especially given the cash distribution in that particular studio.

Anyhow, I did a bunch of studio visits and while the studios ranged from run down shacks to neatly decorated mini clubs, the sessions were very similar to one another. Girls mostly friendly, service rather ordinary. Maybe I just don't know how to deal with the girls immediately lining up in front of you and sort of being pressured into picking one. Given most of the pricing schemes, you quickly feel taking longer sessions are a bargain, but pretty much all my sessions got to business very quickly. Real and good DFK mostly non existing, a quick BBBJ and then to sex. Regardless if you booked an hour or less. Also kind of funny how the typical preliminary conversations now happen while in progress. I had two girls ask my why I had come to Vienna, literally in the two seconds after they put my dick in her pussy. In order to avoid the tourist service, I was a bit quicker than usual in throwing out some standard Romanian lines, with mostly the desired outcome. The cheapest of all sessions was particularly funny in this regard. During the line-up, shower and start of the session she looked mostly mad. A lot of eye contact in cowgirl, but not a smile to be seen, then in a spooning position I found something to compliment her on in Romanian and she burst out laughing while starting to roll away from me. I followed up with praise for that first smile, and she totally got out of the way. In the following exchange it became clear enough that I don't actually speak Romanian, always an important step in these exchanges, and I called her over to give me a kiss and get back to it. I got a sloppy, wet French kiss that lasted anywhere between 5 and 10 seconds. I immediately was like: "this, let's do more of this! But I just got a very Romanian "Nu, haide and-futem" and during the sex just a few short and feeble reminders of the way this girl can kiss if she wants to.

For that last morning before I left, the early options were kind of limited and I couldn't help myself, and ignored the meagre reports, to try setting something up with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] in La Chica lounge. She seems to be booked up pretty much non stop and when I called for an appointment the evening before, the friendly woman at the other side of the line was already half way through her line of telling me no, when she changed to "actually, tomorrow morning is possible". She sounded positively surprised. As with all the other girls I have seen, the photos are a fair representation, although she seems even tinier in person and smiling with her hair in a pony tail, she is infinitely cuter than her online pictures. She claimed she doesn't photograph well, and that was kind of confirmed when we went through a few bazillion of her cell phone pictures later on. In some of them she was positively unattractive. In any case, in real life a pretty, nice and young girl. Service was not brilliant off course, but in all honesty amongst the top of the studio sessions I had. Some soft light French kissing, a forgettable blowjob and a lot of stamina in cowgirl. Kissing clearly a different discipline, because she would stop the fucking entirely when she kissed me. All the time happily yapping away in Romanian at me. I got about a third of what she was trying to say, but that seemed enough. After finishing, which really didn't happen in all sessions, we mucked about a bit with her phone and I somehow got the feeling that personality wise she would fit very well in a club like Samya, although that would probably mean a lot less money. She was a bit difficult in getting started for a second go, but by being similarly Romanian in my attitude we had a go at a second pop. If I were in Vienna for a longer time, I'm sure I'the be back a few times.

Then the Saunaclubs. I spent an evening in Funpalast and actually quite liked the set up. The place is huge, with a lot of wasted space. I think the main hall is larger than Sharks, but it doesn't quite feel like it because of all the random crap they put in there, like the pool, the poker table and the fake castle. It seems like you get decent meals at decent prices and the fact that they provide plastic cups for water in the changing rooms is sympathetic. An honest pricing system. The interactions with the girls felt a bit like coming home and it shows that you get better at things you do a lot. For me there were enough options to fill an evening with, seven or so. In the end I went with Brennie with the big tits. I have seen her either in LR or Sharks before and had heard positive things. In any case we had plenty to talk about, although her "love" for sharks should have been a giveaway. A waste of time and my prepaid room. Later I went with redheaded Criss, who I found difficult to resist for some reason. I hadn't discussed the BJ, and before I knew it the cover was on. DFK was pretty good though, also during the sex itself. Decent enough.

I must admit Golden time is a totally different kettle of fish. That line up, on a weekday, was simply ridiculous. Looks wise comparable to Sharks I would say. The club itself kind of disappointing and not nearly worth the 90 euros entry fee. Especially the food was crap, asking 90 euros for that is the biggest rip off I have seen Vienna, even worse than the 3 euros they seem to charge for mediocre coffee everywhere. In NRW or Hessen, I would say that a club with these facilities should aim at between 40 and 50 euros entry fee. But plenty of hot girls, although you shouldn't be too early. At around 5 pm the line up was great, in the early afternoon there is a good change you will be blowing your load on a lesser goddess. As I did with Bulgarian Diana, who is pretty, but not really my type. Session was simply good with decent DFK, BBBJ, some pussysliding and decent sex. Nothing wrong with that service at all. I also had the feeling I knew a great many of these girls from clubs in Germany. In the end I confirmed with 5 girls that I knew them from somewhere in NRW. Four that I had been in the room with, but only one that was an option for a repeat. A good session of an hour, but not quite as good as before. The funny thing about meeting girls this far from "home" is that they suddenly feel like talking a lot about all kinds of things. In addition to some insights into a few clubs in NRW, I also got the low down of GT in Vienna. One girl literally said that she didn't understand girls that stayed in Germany because "here everything is extra! Pointing out there were 3 times as many girls as guys didn't affect a reconsideration. When I asked about Regulars, she claimed those were few and far between "everyone is a tourist here", she even claimed that the hourly rate in Babylon wasn't that high because the girls are expected to do everything. For an hour with all those thing, most notably anal, you could get a similar amount in GT. I was promised old school service for the standard rate, for what it's worth. As a tip: when I mentioned my successful room early in the day, she immediately asked incredulously "with a Romanian girl? I am quite fond of my Romanians, but it appears the Bulgarians are known for normal service at the standard rate, while the Romanians try to charge extra for all kind of things. I did do a third session with a new girl and payed 20 extra for a "good" blowjob and kissing. I mostly went for it, because I really dig Anja with her cheeky attitude. Session was decent with deep throat and ok DFK, not as good as the other two, but probably the top 5 of the week. The sessions in GT were definitely the best of the week.

All this flexible pricing and the questions about gifts, which I haven't even mentioned yet, shouldn't be blamed just on tourists though. Reading some of the local forums, and I've noticed it with some locals here occasionally as well, there seems the be a pride in overpaying. I've seen people complain about a rip off by literally saying that they only paid the standard 60, which they had never done before and someone who though 20 euro tip on a 60 euro session was a bit much, was told to go for streetwalkers if he thought 80 euros was too much for 30 minutes of sex. After reading the Erotikforum for a couple of weeks, it seems the problem in Vienna is just as much the locals as the tourists.

I never been to Vienna, but I think it has a good sex scene based on past research. The biggest problem IMO is the dominance of Romanian girls. There aren't many girls from other ethnicities.

Free Dude.

Very interesting report, great one!

Maybe your planning was inefficient but your writing isn't. You seem to have given a good part of the Vienna sex scenery a go which is admirable. Also seems as if you got pretty much what you wanted.

Again, I have to defend GT when I hear it being called a rip-off or tourist trap or any of that. This is just not right and a club that has been going strong for that many years almost unchallenged by the cheaper FKKs has serious muscle. And who has serious muscle (and a line-up that also you found "ridiculous") and dominates the FKK market in its respective city can also dictate the prices.

I am on your side when it comes to the girls' services and pricing for "extras". This might be getting out of control and I don't feel at this point as if the management give an F. As I said many times, we don't feel that at all. We locals get super service in GT without any effort most of the time.

[QUOTE]After reading the Erotikforum for a couple of weeks, it seems the problem in Vienna is just as much the locals as the tourists.[/QUOTE]After being a part of the Erotikforum for 15 years or more I can tell you that there is no wisdom in it to be found anymore. It's nothing but a chatbox where every topic ends up becoming a price discussion and a (pea) cockfight.

The locals are not the problem at all. Yes, we tip. Austrians tip as a courtesy any chance we get or so we were raised. People my age take pride in tipping, I feel. If we like the service of the provider, of course. The tourists are not the problem, either, of course.

If we want to find problems in the current state of sex affairs in our city then it lies in the mindset of comparing apples with oranges. And the low prices are what will bring it all down if we entertain the notion that highclass girls should earn 50 or 60 for great sex per half hour.

What is happening in Germany with a law that is so restrictive is at part the result of mass extortion of girls. No need to get into discussions about the law much further but at this point in time, in Austria, we move in the opposite direction of the spectrum. Girls can do whatever the hell they want. They can charge what they want and can use a condom whenever they want. And can openly speak and brag about it or not, it's their choice. And in that they can regulate their money stream according to their needs. In theory at least a smart woman has endless possibilities in Austria and in Vienna endless whales to catch. There is nothing wrong with that and I will say, there is everything right with that. Club and brothel owners just have to defend their house rights, too. If the vision of the girls doesn't match the vision of the club in the least then those girls should not be welcome anymore, and it will all balance out. As long as management knows what's going on they can always regulate and balance it out.

Girls who then end up in LH Juchgasse and offer no OWO at all, hey, more power to them for sure. Juchgasse owners do so well that they will launch the 2nd one as we learned from Monsooner and Itponaus. And yeah, it is in Zollgasse and not in Zollergasse but at the moment is not open yet and they are waiting for their license. I am confident that they will do well. Girls seem to like to work under their management. I am not a fan but I respect the fact that they are mostly fully booked in Juchgasse.

As far as Funpalast is concerned. You call it an honest pricing system but isn't it the desperation that kept them "honest"? Less than a year ago the price in FP was THE SAME as it was in GT now. What does it mean if a "service" that once was calculated as being worth 90 EURO is now worth 10 or 15 EURO. In my opinion it means despair and recipe for many dishes, none of which has the long term success ingredient in it.

Just about 2 hours later it all got better in the house and most girls were in their rooms. I went up and down the stairs only twice to make my decision that Rebecca is the best looking girl there. To my surprise I found her there, I wasn't aware she had moved on from Maxim.

This woman is remarkably sexy and flawless. In the sack she is very sensual, very subtle moaning when I went down on her. I find nothing wrong with her at all and will repeat where ever she ends up. Look at the website now, she already left. I must've been with her on her final day.

Only downside to the experience, she asked extra for owo and kisses. She is worth a lot more than what she charges. I would pay 100 more without hesitation because she is in another league to me.

At night I was in a very crowded Maxim and just m when I wanted to engage Alexandra she went to speak to another guy at the bar who was smart enough to take his chance.

Come Tuesday I will return and Alexandra or Daisy will be mine.

Line-up was still good despite it being an Easter weekend.

How many Bulgarians are there at GT Vienna then if the service girls are mainly Bulgarians? Come to think of, my ex GT Vienna favourite at Artemis is also a Bulgarian too. Perhaps she returned since I believe she left Artemis. Her name at Artemis was Aksena. MP or anyone else, do you remember an Aksena from maybe 4 years ago at GT? And if so, have you seen her back?

Massimo Potente: maybe if the 60 e session is too cheap for a city like Vienna which is more expensive than anything in Germany, then perhaps they should reduce the entry fee from 90 to 60, and then increase the 30 min price from 60 to 70. It would all make so much more sense economically. It would bring in more scouts instead of the entry fee being a cockblock in the first place. The food is far below what you find at Wellcum / marina and even far below a place like Yinyang in Netherlands with 50 e entry. And 70 e would be an ok price. They could also just fire one of the useless bouncers if they need to cut expenses.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2161299]Massimo Potente: maybe if the 60 e session is too cheap for a city like Vienna which is more expensive than anything in Germany, then perhaps they should reduce the entry fee from 90 to 60, and then increase the 30 min price from 60 to 70. It would all make so much more sense economically. It would bring in more scouts instead of the entry fee being a cockblock in the first place. The food is far below what you find at Wellcum / marina and even far below a place like Yinyang in Netherlands with 50 e entry. And 70 e would be an ok price. They could also just fire one of the useless bouncers if they need to cut expenses.[/QUOTE]In the FKK realm they have no competition in Vienna. Why in the world would they even consider a price change. Why would any successful business lower their prices. It wouldn't make any sense at all economically, trust me.

I am not saying that 60 is too cheap for a city like Vienna but at this moment in time, the girls can charge extra money in GT and people are largely ok with it. The problem that had been pointed out is subjective. Objectively this is just us whining and not an error in the system.

As for Bulgarians, there is a bunch of them. Some number between 5 and 8, I would estimate. No Aksana, though, however it won't be her real name for sure and she could likely have changed it.

Monsooner.

Rebecca can be booked again at Maxim as it turns out.

[URL]http://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/rebecca3[/URL]

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2161364]
I am not saying that 60 is too cheap for a city like Vienna but at this moment in time, the girls can charge extra money in GT and people are largely ok with it. The problem that had been pointed out is subjective. Objectively this is just us whining and not an error in the system.

As for Bulgarians, there is a bunch of them. Some number between 5 and 8, I would estimate. No Aksana, though, however it won't be her real name for sure and she could likely have changed it.[/QUOTE]I just read here and elsewhere that tourists make up a great deal of the GT market. So of course prices matters. The tourist market as opposed to the local market is extremely international. So people will just go elsewhere. Anywhere. It doesn't matter to most Joe's if they postpone their Vienna mongering 1 day longer and monger in Berlin, Frankfurt, Budapest or Villach instead of Vienna either.

True, Aksena is not her real name, but she said she used it in GT Vienna also. However she could have a totally new name now. A few girls do use their real names though. I know since I got a bunch on facebook.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2161392]I just read here and elsewhere that tourists make up a great deal of the GT market. So of course prices matters. The tourist market as opposed to the local market is extremely international. So people will just go elsewhere. Anywhere. It doesn't matter to most Joe's if they postpone their Vienna mongering 1 day longer and monger in Berlin, Frankfurt, Budapest or Villach instead of Vienna either.
[/QUOTE]Tourists don't generally pick the city based on mongering possibilities. I think you are overestimating the influence of professional super mongerers in comparison to normal every day clients who are by far not that price sensitive.

People will not just go elsewhere because Vienna and Villach can't be compared. And Budapest is as bad an example as one can even imagine. Berlin has Artemis which is not better than GT Vienna with basically the same price level.

But of course if people start to shout out "rip-off" and "scam" and "tourist trap" for no valid reason whatsoever on many relevant boards then a false impression could materialise. But I don't think that is on the agenda of anyone in their clear mind, is it?