Berlin

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1218300]Hi.

Popped in with Kimino yesterday. There were 8 or 9 girls in the line-up. 3 of which I'd have been happy try out. I picked out Hungarian Monika:

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/monika.html[/url]

An excellent session. Younf MILF body, heavy-breasted, natural, with just the perfect degree of 'swing' to them. Plain but attractive face, slim but not skinny, very friendly if a touch shy at first? Sexy young lady, we 'clicked' pretty well. No kissing (shame) , but a sensual encounter nonetheless. Would repeat and recommend.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Talking so much about Liberty these days. Has anyone of you recent visitors spotted Alina (a sexy long-legged Blonde). Just from her appearance she is on my top list for the next visit. Same as Romy, of course! Thanks a million Angus for the very important insights!

Looking forward to a visit there soon, after my current cold is cured!

Best of Luck to all,

The AF

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1218274]Hi Kimino.

One thing I do not understand. You say, ' I wasn't in the mood of [sic] getting any BS. '. Yet almost everything that has ever been written about KD makes it clear that this is a house policy. How is this then BS on their part?[/QUOTE]Angus, I reread your message and think there might be some misunderstanding on one point.

I'm not saying in any way that KD did something wrong or didn't give a professional service (for what I tryed) , I'm saying that in no way I would ever accept to have a covered BJ. I was totally disappointed and also very sorry for making the house lady and the girls loose their time, I apologized with the house lady and she did the same to me, so absolutely no problem with KD, it's just they don't provide what I'm looking for. Simple as that.

Hope it's clearer now.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino;1218317]What does [sic] stand for?[/QUOTE]Oh that is Angus the editor, meaning it is an editing thing used when quoting someone who has made a grammatical or spelling error. It means 'intentionally so written' and shows that the quote appears as it has been written and is not corrected by the editor.

[QUOTE=Kimino]BTW, how can you say a girl kisses you because she really wants to and not because she wants to acquire or mantain a regular customer? [/QUOTE]

I don't really question it as long as the kissing is with enough feeling to make it believable. Hell, I don't even mind throwing the girl a 20 (assuming I am financially able) if she kisses with feeling. But my experience is that I might as well rip up the 20 as give it to the girl for all the feeling she puts into it. If she is just trying to maintain me as a regular and does a good job, it will probably work out for her.

AM

This is my first post on ISG, * so I should introduce myself. *I am 50ish, live in a NE state in the boonies, miles away from any kind of SP action, *so I don't get to monger often although I did get to practice in Florida and Georgia a bit. Mostly though, I live vicariously by reading USASG and ISG posts. **I have posted on USASG before.

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Last month I had the opportunity to travel to Berlin for a very short business trip. * Although my only free time there was expected to be a few hours, I spent a lot of time on ISG reading the posts in the Germany forum in the hopes of doing some hobbying. I weighed the alternatives of FKK vs. Brothel. * I had made up my mind to call one of the many brothels mentioned in this forum and then I found myself walking along to my hotel from the UBahn station on Kurfurstenstrasse. * It was about 9pm, and I found myself in a street type of smorgasbord of street girls. * There they were, spread out along K'strasse between the U-bahn and Genthiner Str. * Some scragglies were standing on the road trying to flag down cars and people, others were more discreet. I'the guess ages ranged from 20 to 40. * Although not planning to go street, the other brain started to take over.

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I walked around a couple of blocks and didn't really see any more until I came back down Genthiner toward K'strasse, where I saw two. One was a rather large black girl, and the other was a somewhat petite brunette very discreetly located at the corner of one of the buildings on the east side of Genthiner. She looked around 25 ish, and very cute so I approached her. * I should mention by this time, the little brain was in full control. * She quoted 30 Euros for BJ. 40 for FS or 50 for half / half. * As neither of us had a place or a car, she volunteered a 'safe, quiet spot near by' and *I opted for the BJ. * As we walked over to the 'safe place', we talked a bit as she hooked her arms around mine (actually really quite nice). * She made it very clear that everything (inc. BJ) is covered. * She was german, but spoke passable English. She didn't appear to be a druggie, but you never know. * We got to the 'place', a wooded part of a parking lot just on the corner of Kurfen'strasse and Genthiner. * It didn't look very appealing, strewn with garbage, empty water bottles, condoms and who know what else. * Anyway, standing up, I gave her access to my American wurst. * After a few minutes it became obvious that things weren't going to work (standing up in the cold air doesn't really do it for me) so she upselled me to the half and half. * Again, it would have to be standing up (in my case anyway, for her it was bending over hanging on to a tree). * Again it didn't work for me, not for the lack of her trying. * As she was really nice and somewhat cute, I thanked her for trying and wished her a good night. *

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As I was walking back to my hotel, I cursed myself for staying in a hotel with my colleagues where they might see me bringing a street girl. * Back at the hotel, I decided it was too late to get out to a brothel as I had an early flight home the next day. * So, success in finding a girl. Not very successful in the act itself or finding a conducive venue. * Perhaps street really isn't for me.

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One thing for sure, I'the like to go back to Germany. They have a real practical outlook on sex, as opposed to the dark ages back here in the US.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1218149]. Etc.

On the other hand, totally disappointed by KD. It's something probably only with auslanders or maybe just for Kimino but NO BBBJ there for me. Great lineup, but I left.

Etc.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Hello, Kimino,

Without any malice, I realized that finally you are probably a "newbie" of the Berlin's thread : I think that the fact that "covered" BJ is a rule in KD is well known by readers of this Berlin's thread.

I remember that, in the past, there was a page of KD's website where was mentionned explicitely this rule : I can not find this page anymore.

The first time I looked for a Berliner bordello (years ago) , this rule motivated to visit KD and KD became my first choice since.

Actually, I don't need BBBJ at all and like a lot passionnate deep kisses and to imagine that the ladies had a CIM in their previous meeting is not really encouraging : this KD's rule limits the risk of CIM.

However, in life, most of rules may have sometimes some exceptions!

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1218360]Hello, Kimino,

Without any malice, I realized that finally you are probably a "newbie" of the Berlin's thread : I think that the fact that "covered" BJ is a rule in KD is well known by readers of this Berlin's thread.

I remember that, in the past, there was a page of KD's website where was mentionned explicitely this rule : I can not find this page anymore.[/QUOTE]Actually, I absolutely am a newbie in the Berlin thread and to the Berlin extra-Artemis scene in general. Although I visited at least once all the Bordellos that I feel being the big ones.

Should also be noted that I simply forget stuff very quickly, at least the apparently non important things.

I perfectly remember the talks about the KD rule but for some reason I thoughit was an old story that had changed, a bit like the mith of Vk not being auslander friendly or something. Otherwise I would have never passed by 3 times to see If I could find a decent parade at KD.

Probably the fact that in none of the other apartments I visited this house rule came up, took me to just forget about the issue.

Think I'll remember it after all this writing.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1218152]But I always chose wisely and off the web page, making appointments (half hour at first) and making sure the girls knew that it was them I was here to see. I really do think this helps with the level of service one receives. Picking a girl out from a line up has a certain energy to me that is not as nice as telling a girl that you saw her pictures and just had to see her. It works for me, but I am fully aware that others have different criteria for a good session.[/QUOTE]Dittto for me.

Find that it pays to dedicate a little time in the exchange of small talk before the main event to let the lady know that having carefully perused the photos on the site, there really was no contest as to which one to choose.

Most Schmetterlingen (ladies) about their business will calculate that this is a Kunde (customer) worth cultivating with the prospect of repeat business in mind.

VG

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1218353]As I was walking back to my hotel, I cursed myself for staying in a hotel with my colleagues where they might see me bringing a street girl. * Back at the hotel, I decided it was too late to get out to a brothel as I had an early flight home the next day. * So, success in finding a girl. Not very successful in the act itself or finding a conducive venue. * Perhaps street really isn't for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the street report, a slight cautionary tale. Look at the bright side that this whole adventure did not cost you very much at all. Next time why not visit one of the excellent and comfortable bordellos Berlin has to offer.

AM

Sometimes the problem girls may have with BBBJ and CIM is based on the quite understandable but almost unfounded fear of infection with Aids or hepatitis. I am not a MD, but my brother is. I told him about the problem and here is what he said.

With healthy people the risk to get infected by oral-sex is very, very small. The statistic rate is about 1 to 86. 000 (WHO). This is because the saliva of healthy people normally provides a desinfection-impact, as you can see with animals when they try to lick a wound. The Aids- as the hepatitis-virus is so weak that our saliva will kill

Him at ounce. And sperm which gets into the stomach will be decomposed immediately by our gastric-acid.

BUT : If the oral-cavity of the girl is wounded the danger of infection is high, because the virus then may get into the blood-circuit. BBBJ without ejaculation is dangerous only if there are wounds in the mouth of the girl and on the penis.

I think that girls who refuse BBBJ and CIM don't have medical but psychic reasons. And the simple aspect of somemongerrs allready makes the KD

Makes the KD-rules very understandable. As for me : Sometimes I like to CIM, so I try to avoid places where this is generally proscribed. Sorry, my english is still very poor. Have a nice time : SC

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1218518]Thanks for the street report, a slight cautionary tale. Look at the bright side that this whole adventure did not cost you very much at all. Next time why not visit one of the excellent and comfortable bordellos Berlin has to offer.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'd like to try a bordello next time, kind of curious as to how it works though and what kind of variety I might find. Also I kind of like the fantasy that the lady isn't a seasoned working girl, more of an occasional part timer, and I have the stereotype of a worn tired out SP as the kind of woman working in a bordello. Of course, not having been in one I am probably completely wrong.

BTW sorry about the asterisks in my previous post. Don't know why my browser put those in.

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1218748]BTW sorry about the asterisks in my previous post. Don't know why my browser put those in.[/QUOTE]It happens to me when I write a report on the ipad using notes and then I copy / paste in the browser (safari).

A real pain.

Ciao

[QUOTE=IM Punter;1218748]Thanks. I'd like to try a bordello next time, kind of curious as to how it works though and what kind of variety I might find. Also I kind of like the fantasy that the lady isn't a seasoned working girl, more of an occasional part timer, and I have the stereotype of a worn tired out SP as the kind of woman working in a bordello. Of course, not having been in one I am probably completely wrong.[/QUOTE]Finding a newbie is a common fantasy. Many girls will advertise (or be advertised) as beginners. In my opinion most of it is bunk. The best to hope for is the part timer and they do exist, just takes a lot of research and a measure of luck to find one.

Interesting that with that fantasy you chose the street. This is the last place I would look. Even if she is a relative beginner, girls gain experience fast on the street and become hard. And some girls do a sort of circuit moving from city to city to stay "fresh" in the eyes of the punters. It is surprising to me just how many punter do prefer to do their mongering on the streets here in Berlin.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1217813]In fact there was a fairly recent review, I think of Sara, bei Rheinsberger 78. Do an advanced search or just scroll back. I can not be more than 10 or maybe 15 pages back. For searched it would always help a great deal if people included in the title the name of the girl and the name of the bordello, separated by a space. This way the search function can find it easily and display the report. Another thing we could all start doing is including the telephone number for the bordello in the report. This makes it really easy for the search function to find and display.

Rheinsberger generally gets good reviews on the German forum. It is a smal place with what seems a motivated crew of ladies.

Salon Pankow is the a different story. While I myself have been tempted buy what always seems a slutty bevy of ladies, the reviews are almost universally disappointing. The ladies are said to be very unmotivated to do anything to make you feel good. Most reviews I have read say that they will never return. But you could alway be the exception or at least take one for the team. It would not cost you much.

Links.

[url]http://rheinsberger78.de/index.html[/url]

017678653017.

[url]http://www.salonpankow.de/index.html[/url]

03061748323.

As for other establishments try looking on the Berlin map.

[url]http://karte.berlin-platz.de/?amenity=nightclub,massage,brothel[/url]

A very handy resource.

AM[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the advice, stupid of me not to have included the links myself, sorry.

I searched and found the earlier posts on here and Rheinsberg78, which is walking distance from where I'll be staying, looks a pretty good prospect (especially Sara who I had noted on their website). Hopefully I'll get the opportunity to try out a couple of other establishments as well.

I'm new to this community but have mongered before, as many before my I have gained useful information on this board and would like to contribute. I was looking for a place to spend new years eve, as all FKK are closed on that day, and thanks to Angus (the Berlin legend) got the tip that King George and Caligula are open on that day which by the way they are. I like to dedicate this first major post to you guys that contribute to this forum!

On a personal note I'm in my lower thirties but look in my upper twenties, as for outward appearance tall and dark (African which is helpful) and slim. I'm just mentioning this because outwards appearances affect the quality of service and level of tips involved.

Recap of Berlin trip Saturday 12th of November landed around 16. 00 and had a very short trip to my hotel thanks to German efficiency and good public transport. It less then an hour from touch down to me flopping on the bed in my hotel room.

After a shower, a nap and a sandwich I waited for the changing of the shifts at 20. 00 and headed for Caligula. I didn't quite know what to expect my previous mongering activities in the city have been conducted at Artemis or La Foile I had no idea of how the Caligula girls would look like in comparison but I enjoy a good hunt. Well first with the practicalities:

Entry: eur 99 everything is included I. E. Sex and drinks

Food: none is served on the premises but if you talk to the coat room attendant he will let you step outside for 45 min. One has around 4 choices pizza / generic Italian across the street, kebab down the street, Tapas / generic Spanish parallel to the kebab place and Greek further down from the kebab place. A word of advice if you go for the high carbohydrate meal please note that Caligula doesn't have any relax are as in the FKK so you have to stand or sit on a bar stool until you are ready for the next round.

Local: well the easiest way of describing Caligula is a strip bar, one thing to note is that it is rather small total area of the main room is ca: 70 m2. There are 6 small rooms on the left of the main room that just fit a 120 cm bed plus, a basin, tree pillows and if lucky a towel that the girl puts down on the bed and NO SHOWERS. To the right just the same set up but worst because the room are closer to the speakers so it makes it difficult to concentrate.

Drinks: the bar is basic full service I. E. None of the premium brands but they are fully equipped, just one note of caution I noticed that on more then one occasion customers were escorted out because they were to drunk. Part of the business plan get in get them drunk get them out.

Now to the girls they are about 12-14 girls of mixed nationalities none exotic Polish, Romanian, German / Turkish and Bulgarian. Most of them are 5-6 and two are 8. The sex is short time around 20 min-30 min max with regular positions they also provide you with an add on service table in the room. CIM eur 10, BBBJ eur 10 (wash first) and anal eur 25. None did anal but most did the first two. IMPORTANT this is not a GFE establishment. The girls do all the regular tricks to work as little as possible so use your head to get a good session out of the experience.

My personal experience was quite enjoyable I didn't drink and don't smoke which helped in keeping my head and body in check. All in all I would repeat if I was out to keep my budget in check. But not for New years or any other major holidays its simply to difficult to spend a longer period than 3 hours here. I almost forgot they are not great dancers.

Plus: value for money and opening hours.

Minus: hygiene and small rooms and no GFE.

Wreckdiver