Berlin

[QUOTE=Eddy Berlin;1266846]The hausmutti argued I hadn't given a good enough reason why I wanted to break off. By the way, I was still naked and holding my condom as I debated with the hausmutti. I've never actually gone through with aborting a session before, and have always grinned and beared it when I've made a bad choice. However, it seems like you can't win![/QUOTE]I don't think there is anything that you could have done differently. If the Hausmutti starts to argue with you and take the girl's side, all is lost. It sounds like one of those cases where the girl should have stayed home for the day or something. It has happened to all of us and is an unfortunate part of the hobby.

Truth is, as I am sure that you know, being charged for DATY is almost unheard of in Berlin. If a girl suggests it warning bells always do go off for me. If she simply says no, she does not care for it, that I can understand. But to try to turn it into an extra is inexcusable.

AM

Not to much info from me lately, first mongering trip of 2012 from 13-17 in Berlin, staying in hotel in Kudam,

Been to berlin several times and really like it, but can someone please tell where to meet up with hobby huren to take back to hotel, any bars our clubs?

Europa Center Dublin bar is a nice place and I scored there last time, nice girl from Latvia, drunk as hell and into my game of champagne drinking while riding, hope to make it this time also.

Thanks for info on how to make this the best trip ever, reports to come after the trip.

[QUOTE=Holidayfun; 1267911]Been to berlin several times and really like it, but can someone please tell where to meet up with hobby huren to take back to hotel, any bars our clubs?
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Well there is the notorious but perhaps overrated Cafe Psst,
There are scores of hobby ho`s here: [url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/Privatmodelle.php[/url],
You can hit the top discos as in Watergate, Berghain, or look up various top bar websites.
You could ring up Kamilla Dee or van Kampen, or other bordells or escort services and order take out.
But if you found a willing Lat in a basically non-descript Irish pub, well, perhaps any where would work, KaDeWe food section on the 6th? Floor, slick hotels in Mitte, the Aral gas station on Ulandstrasse and Blisstrasse. Who knows. Seek and ye shall find, maybe.

My 2 cents. Tried caligula and king george several times.

Caligula: lot of choice, young girls, all from romania, crowded place, dark small rooms, no option to shower. Pay 100Euros and fuck any number of girls.

Kind george: same concept. Clean rooms with shower option. Less choice of girls.

[QUOTE=Deeps; 1266825]Just posting the update over my experience of Berlin escort scene (the session with girls, will post later).

I have did 2 escorts with KD and 1 with Royal so far. Both are renown club over here. Both take care of girls and as well of customer.

With KD, my bookings were completely done over the email with Kira. A nice lady which promptly replies you and is always ready to provide you best service. The cost of escort is 200 euro for an hour. She will ask your Hotel, room no, when you are checking in and when you want to see the girl. Once you are in the hotel, you have to make a confirmation call on their escort number that you are in. The girl will arrive in the hotel, you can pick up if your hotel require keycard (my does) or she can also come directly to the room.

With Royal, it is similar to KD but a bit pricey. They will also charge you 30 euro travel costs of girl in addition to 200 euro fees for an hour. They will also ask you for the hotel number on which they will make the call to your room to confirm you are there then just for security reasons. You have to book girl on the phone or in personal at the club (I did at the club). Not sure if they do so through emails as well.

After going through I have felt that, KD has quite a lot of experience in escort department too whereas on Royal, I don't think they get too many requests for escorting. Why I say this is because when I called Royal for the confirmation, their first question was are your plans changed? Duh!

I would like to say that if you want a escort session, call the girl which you know via reviews here or via personal visits and that will get you some very good session privately. I also think that the cost of escort is like regular session + all extras (of course based on girl) because there is no negotiation there.[/QUOTE]

Friday I was at Berlin and wanted to try Lucia. Called the place to make sure she was at premises. The lady on the phone couldn't speak English so she called another lady (probably one of working girls). She told me that Lucia is present and will be at work until 4pm. She also asked me if I wanted to book a time and if so for how long. Although I didn't planned to book a time, I said yes and for half an hour. I arrived at the agreed time and showed to a room. I said in my limited German that I had an appointment with Lucia. After short waiting time Lucia came in and was puzzled when she saw me. She asked me again if it was her I booked time with and if we have met before? I answered that we havn't met each other and I have seen her pictures on the internet. Her English was as bad as my German but we could communicate with of languages. We agreed on 40 min with anal, BBBJ and kissing. Her zungekussen turned out to be only zungen then kussen. Every time I wanted to kiss she stick her thong down my throat. Except this part every thing else was top notch. She has the perfect breasts. After the deed we talked for about 20 minutes more. When I came out it was more then an hour I had spend at that place. Recommanded if you doesn't care about kissing and you can speak some german.

Anyone tried out Lissy at harmoniemassagen recently?

Thinking of visiting on my next trip.

This report is several months old. I went to my first gang bang at King George (KG). It was QUITE an experience.

It lasts from 11:00 AM to 3:00 PM (Mon, Wed and Fri). They advertised 3 girls but had only two. But the two they had were Klaudia (from Austria. Very famous on the forum) and Petronella from Rumania. These in my opinion are the 2 best girls at KG. I had a great time. They were both very friendly, and I did each one of them DATY, BBBJ, and FK two times with each girl. In between sessions I watched 3 or 4 other guys do the same while sipping a beer. I am sure that I made both Klaudia and Petronella come during at least one of our sessions. (I am not easily fooled.) They were both very friendly to me and to all the others. I think that they really like men and, as advertised, are true nymphos. (They have done this for several years and are still not 'hard').

I was the only male left at about 2:15PM and was invited to Join Petronella and Klaudia at the front bar in our towels (I speak German quite fluently which helped). I had another drink and a half and talked extensively to Klaudia. I massaged her toes and feet for an extended period of time, and we had a very good friendly time. Finally at about 2:45 PM, I said goodby and got dressed. I saw Klaudia in the hall on the way out and gave her a nice kiss and called her my Schatzchen. She thought that was nice. Petronella was nearby and asked if she also was my Schatzchen. I said 'of course' and gave her a nice long hug and kiss. What fantastic attitudes they both had.

Mass Monger (a monger from Massachusetts)

Hi all,

First of all: thanks to most of you who have extensively and contantly updated this forum with extremely interesting descriptions of the Berlin sex scene. It has been so interesting to me to understand the dynamics, type of clubs, pricing models and market approach of some of the clubs of this wonderful city.

I pick up girls quite regularly in bars and clubs but for some reasons very rarely it happens that you find a girl that has a true passion for sex, most of the ones are "average" which means not bad but not amazing either, I was thinking about a swinger club since in those sets you should find girls that are truly sex lovers in opposition of standard bars where girls do not (always) only look just for an healthy fuck or brothels where girls offer you sex for money.

I was wondering if there is a thread already on swinger clubs and in general how that works as I found very little on that and I am interested in exploring that scene as well?

Look forward to your reply!

A.

Hi all,

It's a bit hard to compile a review of the 15 times ot so I have seen Milena in about six months but I'll do my best. I must say I haven't seen here very recently though, having spent too much money with Erlebniswohnung lately. My last visit to her was in late March 2012 or thereabouts.

After my not entirely satisfactory meetings with Amelie and Eva, I liked Freudenhaus Hase location, rooms and price structure well enough but, I was looking for a girl that would be suit me better. A name came up frequently in my research of various German, English and French language forums*: that of Milena, who seemed to draw unanimous praise. I decided to give her a try.

Milena turned out to be a very sexy Bulgarian brunette, beautiful face and eyes, dark mid-long hair and a womanly body with a great pair of tits. I would describe her as voluptuous but in a good way, not overweight or even pleasingly plump as the term would perhaps suggest to some. The old photos on the website did not really do her justice, to be frank I hardly recognized her but new photos have been uploaded on the Freudenhaus Hase site very recently ([url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/milena.html[/url]) and give you a much better idea of how she looks. I would «*guesstimate*» her age to be between late twenties and mid thirties.

I took the 20 minutes option with French kissing (Zugenküsse) for 40€ (30€ +10€). I'm not normally a guy who goes for extras, but I love kissing and had read in several reviews that she was a great kisser. Turned out to be true so every meeting after that was the same pricewise.

At out first meeting she put me at ease straight away and when I mentioned my problem of often coming too soon she said don't worry we'll take it slow and easy. After a good blowjob I actually lasted in her pussy quite a while*: success*! Every meeting it was getting better and better and I never needed to take some medical boost, Kamagra Oral Jelly is my emergency drug of choice but no need of it with Milena. Generally our meetings begin with kissing, stroking, caressing, moving on to blowjob, sometimes 69 and sex in various positions. I usually start with missionary, then doggy and missionary again.

Now after so much positive comments what are the negative would you ask? Well there aren't any negatives for me but some other punters might not like Milena for some reason. First off she's a smoker, I actually like smoke flavoured kisses a lot so this is rather a plus for me, but it would be a turnoff to others. She rinses her mouth and sucks a mint before the meeting so the smoke flavour is faint but it's there. Second if you're looking for a powdered beauty who smells like a baby after a bath, she's not the girl for you. She doesn't smell bad, just with energetic sex there can be a wiff of slightly acrid sweat that's all. All very natural and sexy if you ask me, but again some may not like it. Lastly she's not 18 year old bimbo without an inch of body fat, if you don't like your prostitutes to be womanly (Germans would say weiblich I think) don't bother*! Another thing but not Milena's fault, some rooms don't have a sink or bathrooom so you have to wash in a separate bathroom / laundry room.

Otherwise great GFE every time, and highly recommended.

VeLo BERLIN

[QUOTE=Alberigo; 1274971]Look forward to your reply!

A.[/QUOTE]I can not personally recommend as I am not really into that scene but this place is said to be one of the better Swingers Clubs.

[url]http://www.swingeroase-zwiespalt.de/[/url]

As I say never been there so I don't know how it works but I think you can get in as a single man paying a bit more.

Or you could try Erlebniswohnung. There has been much written about it on its; own thread over in the partytref section of the forum.

AM

Hi been lurking on here for a while looking for info, I am heading to berlin at the end of the month for a few days sightseeing on route to a music festival, will arrive Saturday afternoon and leave Thursday morning, I am planning on indulging a bit have little bit of experience of RLD in netherlands but thats it. What liked about the RLD is that I was under no pressure and could browse around before committing myself also like the outfits a lot of the girls wear. I think I would feel under too much pressure with the bordello line up situation. Mainly go for the natural look and would prefer places where kissing is normal.

Other worries are being ripped off or getting a poor service because I am a tourist and speaking very little german, can say please thanks and order beer food / beer. I am also vegetarian so not sure if any of the clubs where you spend an extended time would feasible if nothing to eat, will feel out of my depth enough without turning up with a pack lunch.

Anyway looked at Caligula / king george which maybe relaxed but going by the websites very few of the girls look like my thing so feel I would end up disappointed, think freudenhaus hase, maybe closest to being to wander round and see whats available and like celina, anna, christina and alicia. Like a few of the girls on erlebniswohnung website especially veronica, elina also never been anywhere like that so may be a bit too much. Think artemis may a bit expensive although the choice on the site does look great and feel I may like the lingerie idea on a Wednesday although I get the impression its not a popular day. From looking at some of the bordellos was taken by tiffanys website loads of info on the girls all seems friendly and may build up the courage to give it a try. Liked a few girls on the site emille, tina, zoe and anna, but really taken with shakira.

So planning on maybe Saturday night going to FH, Monday EB, Tuesday tiffany if shakira is working and artemis on the Wednesday.

Sorry about the ramble but any opinions if this sounds a decent plan or pointers on the girls I mentioned or similar girls to look out for at artemis I would really appreciate it.

Hi Jock180.

I was in the same situation as you, earlier this year.

I visited Tiffany first, and it's a good place. I spent an hour with Charlyn and she was perfect! Really sweet, fantastic body, cute face. Not so good at english, but she was better than I am at German.

I then visited Salon pankow a couple of times. Sweet girls and the price is not bad, but it's all the way out in Pankow, but it's not any worse than Artemis. And the walk from the station to the place is about the same.

Unfortunately I only visited Artemis on my last day. If I had went there earlier and had more days left in Berlin, I would have visited Artemis again. The atmosphere is relaxed and it's easier to spend an hour getting used to the place, than going to a normal brothel and then walk in, and have 5 minutes to chose a girl and then go to a room.

I would say, visit Artemis in the beginning, then you can always return.

I found it easy to find girls I wanted, on a lazy Sunday. When I left there was even one girl I'd want to try but didn't have the money for (both my creditcards were down due to maintanance on the computer-servers in my home country. Damn. But it was also at 04:00 in the night, and I have had three girls that day so. It didn't matter that much.)

[QUOTE=Jock180; 1278156]Hi been lurking on here for a while looking for info, I am heading to berlin at the end of the month for a few days sightseeing.

So planning on maybe Saturday night going to FH, Monday EB, Tuesday tiffany if shakira is working and artemis on the Wednesday.[/QUOTE]J180-knowing nothing about your state of mind, and tastes, very difficult to actually give good advice. My idea of natural (a sheep) might be different from yours, etc.

But reading between the lines here, I think turning up at Artemis sort of mid Sat afternoon and taking it slow til whenever you want to leave might be the safest bet. There will be salads and some cooked vegs around after 6pm so avoiding edible flesh should not be a problem. It won´t be good veg cooking but you certainly won't starve. But all the other options you mention require a bit of game, and some moderate knowledge of German useful. EW (you have to be into gang bangs and sharing the goods with lots of other guys in real time) , FH really mostly locals' thing-has a very different vibe than the NL RLD scene, and Tiffany's can be a bit standoffish, though the girls are fine. Royal, Liberty, Kamilla la Dee, and van Kampen (slightly more expensive than the others) would all be better bordell choices and you can get by in English. But at all these places, who is actually on and available when you are is hit and miss, and you do have to do a fair bit of running around the city. Exploring can be fun of course, but it not the same as have massive numbers of choices in front of you, naked, for hours, and you do have to decide fairly quickly.

So for a non-German speaker, Artemis a good choice. No pressure, you can relax for hours, wandering about, and size up the scene. You can chat with girls for as long as you both want before deciding, you can walk away, you have the pool and sauna to relax. Ease into it late afternoon-it will be relaxing with maybe 10 guys and 15-20 girls, expanding to + 50 girls at night. Surely the naturals you seek will be amongst the ample choices. You can observe other guests and see who they head off with, and ask them how the session was. Most guys and girls there speak English, and it is quite the Berlin scene.

Yes potentially 80 Eur (minus whatever value you put on unlimited soft drinks, food, and the wellness facilities) down the drain if you cannot find a choice but the odds of that happening are in your case just about 0. Of course, you can make a poor choice anywhere, but at least at Artemis, you can regroup quickly and find another. But when you compare say a half hour session elsewhere with equivalent extras (100-120 Eur) , the minimum 140 at Artemis (80 entrance plus 60 for a 30 min session) is not a bad deal, when you throw in all the other relaxing and food bits. If you go for 2-3 sessions over 10 hours, the pricing vs bordells becomes more compelling. Some would argue that Caligula, King George, or EW are cheaper. They are of course (on all levels), but it is really not a fair comparison of mellons with mellons, and from what I have seen and heard, while there may well be diamonds in the rough at all these places, the odds are stacked against you, in your situation.

Sat will be a good day, possibly better (more choices) than dessous day Wed. You can get your bearings on the whole deal and then decided Mon re other options. Sunday will be quieter, everywhere, though Artemis can surprise even then, as a recent trip with Count Kamino showed me.

The trick in Artemis is just take it slow, take your time to talk with candidates, don't rush into anything. Just say no when you don't want to, feel the vibes, watch body language and feel some connection or wait for another. Be clear on what you both expect before you finally zimmer it (head up to the room). Not a big deal really and you clearly have some mongering experience so you´ll keep a grip on. The ISG Artemis thread here, Angus Magee's epic blog have anything and everything you would ever need to know if you take the time to do your homework. I think actually I have written all this already several times on the Arts thread-word for word for newbies who just don´t read through it.

Good luck whatever you decide, and we look forward to your expedition reports back.

[QUOTE=Jock180;1278156]Hi been lurking on here for a while looking for info (…) any opinions if this sounds a decent plan or pointers on the girls I mentioned or similar girls to look out for at artemis I would really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]If you like it at Artemis or not. It is all a matter of temperament. I'm not really good at saying no to naked women so the FKK concept is a scary thought for me. So I have never tried it.

When I'm in Berlin I usually go to Kamilla la Dee because the level of service is very high and I really like the suspense of the line up situation. The price is also high but that does not matter when the girls usually delivers great sex. Quite a few of the girls there kiss by sympathy. So if you are well shaved and take a shower you can have a great GFE there. English language is almost allways possible.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1279018]I'm not really good at saying no to naked women so the FKK concept is a scary thought for me. So I have never tried it.[/QUOTE]You should try!

You will be surrounded by naked women at Artemis, but after a while you get used to it and can control yourself.

Bring enough money to take 1-2 sessions as appetizer and then relax and enjoy the atmosphere. 1-2 sessions as dinner and then take the final 1-2 sessions as dessert before leaving.

Of course this would cost more than a single session at KD ect.