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Is it possible to find bareback sex in Berlin?

Links? Ladies?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Il Duca; 1281504]Is it possible to find bareback sex in Berlin?

Links? Ladies?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]AO is available but no place is it really guaranteed. If one is into such risky mongering one really has to go out and look for it. Most of the lower end EE escort agencies have girls that do it but do not generally advertise as such. Personally I would not bother as is it really worth the risk? If you feel it is then I would check out the AO (bareback) section of the forum and travel to where it is offered. As a more or less responsible monger I do not like to spread info that is mostly unreliable and encourages unsafe sexual practice.

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[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1281591]AO is available but no place is it really guaranteed. If one is into such risky mongering one really has to go out and look for it. Most of the lower end EE escort agencies have girls that do it but do not generally advertise as such. Personally I would not bother as is it really worth the risk? If you feel it is then I would check out the AO (bareback) section of the forum and travel to where it is offered. As a more or less responsible monger I do not like to spread info that is mostly unreliable and encourages unsafe sexual practice.

A<[/QUOTE]Thanks for the help. There is more than one reason for seeking such information.

1) Where to find it.

2) Where not to go that this service might had been offered previously and one wants to avoid.

Ever since the STD scare at Artemis, I've been nervous. I'm in Berlin for the week, but I haven't figured out where to go. Does anyone have opinions on the safest and best bordell in Berlin? I'm looking for a place that regularly checks the girls for STDs and practices covered everything. I'm guessing KD (but I had bad luck the last time I went). And I know Artemis used to test the girls, but that doesn't seem to be the case if people are walking away with infections.

[QUOTE=Hossi36;1281016]I will be in Berlin soon and want to ask if anyone can recommend me a nice girl who likes to be submissive?[/QUOTE]Thanks to Bobo and Angus.

Any more suggestions? In fact I like more the freelancing girls and not the agencies or the apartments.

Any info on a Swedish lady called LoraGora?

[QUOTE=Geryon;1281801]Ever since the STD scare at Artemis, I've been nervous. I'm in Berlin for the week, but I haven't figured out where to go. Does anyone have opinions on the safest and best bordell in Berlin? I'm looking for a place that regularly checks the girls for STDs and practices covered everything. I'm guessing KD (but I had bad luck the last time I went). And I know Artemis used to test the girls, but that doesn't seem to be the case if people are walking away with infections.[/QUOTE]Wow. You have been nervous for almost an entire year? That might even be dangerous in itself.

First, this so called scare at Artemis was very very dubious. I actually followed this up privately and there is no hard, reliable, 3rd party verified evidence about what actually happened, and how. But repeating a story does not make it true. I have my doubts it ever happened, but surely we will never know. So "people walking away with infections" is to put it mildly, inaccurate. (People are walking in with infections, people are walking out with them-that is life). Whether these were actually exchanged during a session-very difficult to sort out.

Second. "safe" is obviously a continuum. The safest sex is no sex, or perhaps sex with a fresh juicy mellon from a bio store. Anything else means probabilities. If you don't kiss, don't do bareback blowjobs, don't lick, and wear condoms, well, that is pretty safe. So each little relaxation of those rules, mean, ah er, it is less safe (though a lot more fun). Now in the real world, all the better bordells in Berlin are pretty safe and clean. Artemis does have a doctor on hand and there are inspections of all on a regular basis. How regular. Who knows? You can be sure the German authorities keep an eye on this, and Artemis tries, given the numbers involved.. And some STDs aka THE BIG ONE can take 3 months to show up so timing is everything. The private flats make different inspection claims and they seem much safer than the streets. But in truth, none of us can possibly know. You just have to size up the situation, feel the trust and hygene factors, and make that existential choice. You can also be sure that whatever some establishment says, in the middle of things between 2 people with unknown histories, rules get bent, condoms break etc. So, you just make your choices. Some of you other mongers, especially of medical doctor persuasions (you know who you are) can please weigh in here. While your mileage may vary, there is such a staggering quantity of fucking going on in Berlin it has to be fairly safe, otherwise the city would be dead by now.

The best bordello in Berlin. Really no such thing. Girls come and go. But the big 7 covered at length on the Forum can all have good days and bad days, depending upon your taste, mood, and chemistry with your partner, and just the schedules that day. It is kind of an absurd question.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1282049]Wow. You have been nervous for almost an entire year? That might even be dangerous in itself.

First, this so called scare at Artemis was very very dubious. I actually followed this up privately and there is no hard, reliable. 3rd party verified evidence about what actually happened, and how. But repeating a story does not make it true. I have my doubts it ever happened, but surely we will never know.[/QUOTE]I don't mean to rip open a "wound" but what was this STD scare in Artemis all about? (uhmm....starting to get nervous before my trip next week!)

Geryon: I am BTW no doctor, but I happen to have one who's been working with prostitutes before. I asked him lots of questions about STDs and his answers were not really assuring. While getting a BBBJ is less risky for the man than for the woman (more dangerous for the active part, than for the receiver) and vice versa when you lick a girls pussy. There are still risks involved if you happen to have wounds / sore of some kind, and the girl has some blood from her mouth (ie. Just after brushing teeth or using a floss). According to my Doc, you are almost 98% sure to not receive a STD if you always use a condom, with BJ and intercourse, and never do DATY. As Rocketboy just pointed out, there is no 100% guarantee in this business. They can test the girls everyday, and still there is a factor not mentionned: the customers! What if the "clean" girl gets infected by some of the many punters during her day, and she'll pass the infection to you. And even at Artemis, you still have the choice to aks for a covered BJ if you feel unsure, most girls will actually prefer this.

[QUOTE=Sucker17; 1282243]I don't mean to rip open a "wound" but what was this STD scare in Artemis all about? (uhmm. Starting to get nervous before my trip next week!)

Geryon: I am BTW no doctor, but I happen to have one who's been working with prostitutes before. I asked him lots of questions about STDs and his answers were not really assuring. While getting a BBBJ is less risky for the man than for the woman (more dangerous for the active part, than for the receiver) and vice versa when you lick a girls pussy. There are still risks involved if you happen to have wounds / sore of some kind, and the girl has some blood from her mouth (ie. Just after brushing teeth or using a floss). According to my Doc, you are almost 98% sure to not receive a STD if you always use a condom, with BJ and intercourse, and never do DATY. As Rocketboy just pointed out, there is no 100% guarantee in this business. They can test the girls everyday, and still there is a factor not mentionned: the customers! What if the "clean" girl gets infected by some of the many punters during her day, and she'll pass the infection to you. And even at Artemis, you still have the choice to aks for a covered BJ if you feel unsure, most girls will actually prefer this.[/QUOTE]There was a guy last year who said he "got" some "infection" from a girl at Artemis. He was "sure" of it. The Forum chatter went ballisto, but the story does not check out in any credible fashion. Dude had prior pre Artemis problems, he spent months trying to identify what it was and never really did, it was in any case a minor thing sorted with anti bs, and the whole thing was / is just very dubious. Artemis does watch these kind of things quite carefully and there is a doctor there just about every day inspecting all that nakedness (tough job but someone's got to.) on a regular basis like once every 2 weeks or so. I know on some occasions they have not allowed a girl who was ill to work (cold vs more serious things) and they clearly try to stay on top of what is (pardon the pun) a very fluid situation. But it is surely no sure thing for reasons Sucker17 described. He (and this scare story) also raise quite correctly the issue of how we mongers also have responsibilities in the game.

Sorry to hijack the thread but I used to go BB all the time with girls in Berlin, Madrid, Hungary, Africa, Asia etc. In 2007 I was with a girl in Budapest (Jasmine) and wrote a report on getting very sick after several sessions with her. I was terrified for years cause I got a lump in my groin and had a whooping type cough for the better of 6 months. Luckily, there is nothing wrong with me but after living in USA for 2 decades on and off I was told that almost all USA women have HPV (Papiloma Virus) and that going DATY can lead to throat cancer in men (unprotected no mouth-dam type DATY). Also, with the prepoderence of anal, CIM, BBBJ in Artemis and other places you can assume if you are kissing a girl that allows CIM and anal that at some stage she has had some one else's cock in her ass, then same cock in her mouth and puss. I never had any problems at FKK (to the best of my knowledge) but I now feel it is almost safer to go for "less regular" working girls. And, HIV for instance, can be contracted by one dirty sexual event, so regardless if women are tested even on a monthly basis (after sex with 100+ men) , there is extreme risk in high turnover situations.

At an FKK, I had one WG tell me she had been with an average of 5-8 guys a day for 3 weeks. 1 week off then again for months. Only needs a 0. 1% chance (1 in a 1000) of a HIV / STD carrier to slip through in a 6 month period and we can all get infected. My 2 cents worth.

I am now in Colombia and the amount of ignorance here with regards to STD's is frightening. In my time in Morocco, Tunisia, GHANA and Saudi Arabia, no-one seemed to be concerned with STD's which are everywhere in certain areas (Accra for instance is endemic) and diseases like Hep B are very easy to catch from the wrong girl.

Please stay safe why'all!

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At an FKK, I had one WG tell me she had been with an average of 5-8 guys a day for 3 weeks. 1 week off then again for months. Only needs a 0. 1% chance (1 in a 1000) of a HIV / STD carrier to slip through in a 6 month period and we can all get infected. My 2 cents worth.

I am now in Colombia and the amount of ignorance here with regards to STD's is frightening. In my time in Morocco, Tunisia, GHANA and Saudi Arabia, no-one seemed to be concerned with STD's which are everywhere in certain areas (Accra for instance is endemic) and diseases like Hep B are very easy to catch from the wrong girl.

Please stay safe why'all![/QUOTE]When I read your report, I got the impression that you think the whole world would be disease ridden. Well, I had gotten an STD from rubber-fucking once. Bareback fucking however gives healthy joy and happiness. I fucked over a hundred women bareback until now, no problems there. So please stop spreading hysteria over a subject where it is unnecessary! If you want to worry about something, then worry about our crappy politicians wanting to turn the EU into an EUSSR. Or the Fed taking over the USA completely. Or being struck by lightning. All more likely to happen than getting an STD from bareback fucking in Western Europe!

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1282679]Please stay safe why'all![/QUOTE]All very interesting yet I am not sure what you are trying to say other than P4P carries some risk, and FKK girls fuck a lot of men, which I am sure all of us know.

Just a suggestion-there is a safe sex thread that this sort of stuff would suit better. This is the Berlin thread and unless it specifically references Berlin, it is out of place.

AM

Short Report in hopes of getting the forum in the right direction:

King George: 49 Euro for 1 hour. 4 girls working at 5pm on a weekday. Went to a room with an OK looking Romanian where I was offered BBBJ, but chose covered. Sex doggystyle was only allowed. Went back to club floor and had 3 beers (free) and watched the girls dance. Talked with an overweight Bulgarian who spoke good english and was offered to go to the room again but I didn't want to go with her, despite how nice she was. One spanish girl was good looking but wasn't interested in me. Final opinion was King George is good to drink the free beer and have non-GFE sex with mid to low range girls. I'd go again, it was a good time.

Club Deluxe: Strip club with rooms. I did not trust this place and felt a scam coming on. I had 1 beer for 10 euro and then was pressured to buy a girl a 200 euro glass of wine, then pressured to buy a 25 euro lady drink. I made a quick exit from the club when the stripper approached from from the stage and gave me a lap dance for no reason. I thought they were going to charge me for the lap dance so I quickly finished my beer and acted like I was going to the bathroom but bailed out instead. The bouncer wasn't at the door so I exited and walked down the street swiftly, looked back and saw the bouncer standing outside the club glaring at me. Girls were not that good looking.

Apropos / La Dolce: It's the same place. Apropos is a strip club but when the doorbell rings the girls all get up and walk over to La Dolce. Beer was 5 euro, girls will somewhat pressure for a 15 euro drink but you can buy them beer instead and they will sit with you. 7 girls working, most were good looking. I believe it's 35 euro for 20 minutes, but I didn't partake. I just wanted to drink beer and watch the girls dance. I had a good time here.

Club Elfen: 50 euro for 30 minutes. I've heard bad reports so I wanted to check this place out because I live nearby. The entry way is sketchy, but the place seems decently run and sort of clean. I chose a skinny Bulgarian girl and had a good time, everything covered, multiple positions, and non-GFE. The line-up was full of mid-range girls and they seemed nice.

Club Sternchen: Oh man, don't go here. Once again, I had to see just how bad it was, and it was bad. The area is sketchy and dark. I used my cellphone as a torch to get up the stairwell. Once inside the Hausmutti was rude and ordered me to a room with a chair. The line up comes in and none of the girls were good. I don't speak German that well, and the Hausmutti ordered me to select a girl. I told her "Nein Danke, kein interessant". She again demands for me to select a girl. Then she began insulting (in German) me in front of the girls and they all laughed with her. I motioned to leave and she made me pass the girls on the way out, they all gave me dirty looks and said things which I don't understand. When I got out to the street I said to myself,"The joke's on them, because I'm actually able to leave this place!"

Anybody know a good bordell with older women? In the 40 years old range?

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Any info??

[QUOTE=Wanking;1283047][url]http://www.anni-porsche.de/party-termine.html[/url][/QUOTE]I am pretty sure there is a report of this place somewhere in the forum not too far back. In fact a search turned up this.

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[QUOTE=Wanking;1283047][url]http://www.carena-girls.de/[/url][/QUOTE]This place always looked good to me but has generally pretty shoddy reviews from the Germans. I think youwill be pestered for champagne well before seeing any pussy. In fact some of those girls have been on there for the past 8 years always remaining the same age and looking exactly the same. Never a good sign. For small clubs I would think you has a much better chance of success here.

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[QUOTE=Wanking;1283047][url]http://zwiespalt-berlin.de/events.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Iseeu told me that ths place was pretty good, though that was at least three years back and things could have changed.

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