Tokyo

Hi all,Long time no post. I am finally breaking down and going to Osaka(for the first time) for the New Years holiday. I notice that AM has two new girls there, Ran and Miki. I am just curious if anyone has had any experiences with either of the two? I have checked the other threads and I can't seem to find any info on them. If anyone has any info before I go it will be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.Jplover

Went to Yoshiwara today. From walking around for 30 minutes, I would say there are definitely different classes of soap there (stop me if you know this.). While the ones mentioned elsewhere on ISG (Playgirls, Academy) look incredible, there are definitely some more affordable options. Now that I'm home and looking at the sites of these places, there's some danger involved but with careful selection you may be able to avoid the 'mutton'. 'boilers'. 'nasty old women' that inevitably creep into people's descriptions of NY NY.Check out the sites for Chateau Petrus? Blue Lagoon and Idol. They have entry fees of JPY 10, 000 posted outside, and then JPY30, 000 on their web pages (which I think indicate the full price). Another place I stopped in to was the Landmark, which says 25, 000 outside and on the web, and the host confirmed it was 75, 000 (which indicates to me that I could have gone in if I wanted).I went to yet another place that lists the fee on its site as 35, 000 and on the sign outside as 10, 000, and that's inclusive. They would have picked me up but I walked, and they took me back (to Ueno). Drinks were free. The girl I had was a bit odd and her picture on the web had been heavily modified, but she was still workable, especially her body. She didn't speak English at all, but was chatty enough to keep things going with me. She had the attitude though. While she was washing me, she asked 'how many times do you usually have sex in one visit? ' I've only been to Thai soaps, so I said that in Thailand they often allow only one shot. She seemed surprised and said 'Well, any number of times is fine [with me]! ' You don't get that in Thailand, but it IS 6, 000 yen all in.Anyway, 35, 000 was definitely worth it. And there are definitely more places in that price range, and I'm sure they'll take foreigners if you call and ask nicely. In Japanese.

I took a long walk through a few months ago, too. Your assessment matches mine, in that there is a great variety of prices available. I eventually went into a bargain place and got serviced for Y21000 for 70 minutes, a very good deal for Yoshiwara but I had to do a lot of asking and taking rejection. Most of the cheaper places don't have a tout outside and you need to go in and speak to the tencho directly. I don't remember the name of the place because I don't plan to go back to Yoshiwara anytime soon because it's just too expensive and not really something I can afford that often.If you see another customer in there, don't even think about going in because you will be immediately shooed out. These places are quite discreet and they don't want customers seeing other customers, especially foreigners.It seems to me, the more you pay the skinnier and younger the lady. It seems proportional so if you're looking for a bargain, expect to get an older lady who is not in great shape. Service should be pretty good, though.You definitely need basic Japanese to go in and talk to tencho so I wouldn't waste time going without Japanese skills.[QUOTE=Jackazzzz]Went to Yoshiwara today. From walking around for 30 minutes, I would say there are definitely different classes of soap there (stop me if you know this.). While the ones mentioned elsewhere on ISG (Playgirls, Academy) look incredible, there are definitely some more affordable options. Now that I'm home and looking at the sites of these places, there's some danger involved but with careful selection you may be able to avoid the 'mutton'. 'boilers'. 'nasty old women' that inevitably creep into people's descriptions of NY NY.Check out the sites for Chateau Petrus? Blue Lagoon and Idol. They have entry fees of JPY 10, 000 posted outside, and then JPY30, 000 on their web pages (which I think indicate the full price). Another place I stopped in to was the Landmark, which says 25, 000 outside and on the web, and the host confirmed it was 75, 000 (which indicates to me that I could have gone in if I wanted).I went to yet another place that lists the fee on its site as 35, 000 and on the sign outside as 10, 000, and that's inclusive. They would have picked me up but I walked, and they took me back (to Ueno). Drinks were free. The girl I had was a bit odd and her picture on the web had been heavily modified, but she was still workable, especially her body. She didn't speak English at all, but was chatty enough to keep things going with me. She had the attitude though. While she was washing me, she asked 'how many times do you usually have sex in one visit? ' I've only been to Thai soaps, so I said that in Thailand they often allow only one shot. She seemed surprised and said 'Well, any number of times is fine [with me]! ' You don't get that in Thailand, but it IS 6, 000 yen all in.Anyway, 35, 000 was definitely worth it. And there are definitely more places in that price range, and I'm sure they'll take foreigners if you call and ask nicely. In Japanese.[/QUOTE]

Was in Tokyo couple of weeks back. First time in Tokyo and felt the urge to try out the local scene.Went out with some colleagues ( all gaijin) to Roppongi, but didn't like it much. I wouldn't go there fishing at all, maybe we went to the wrong places, but to me they all looked like expat rip-off.So finally, as my Japanese is non-existant contacted AM. Took a bit of calling back and forth because the girl I wanted was not available, and also my second choice wasn't there that day. Finally decided on Sayuri.Lady showed up exactly on time in the agreed place. Came in, kissed a bit ( all very GFE), payed agreed sum, sat on the bed, played a bit more, undressed, shower, play time. She stayed the full time, took shower and was on her merry way, leaving a happy customer behind.She's quite nice, I would guess her a couple of years younger than on the site, long nipples ( which I like), not to thin, just right.

I finally found some places to try. Took a trip into Tokyo to meet some people and went around to Sugamo, tried the BJ area. I went to the last one on the left (I don't remember the name, it was a climb up the stairs) and got an older-looking lady.She allowed some touching of the upper body but was plainly not enthusiastic about it, nor was she very good with the CBJ. I couldn't do it and she didn't seem to care; I left unhappy.Made my way back down the alley to the station, was enticed into jan jan. Got another older woman in a race queen outfit, which was promptly removed. I remember her having a tattoo of some sort.She cleaned me off and started going at it without a rubber, started easy and started moving up the intensity pretty regularly and encouraged me to touch her. I was surprised at how wet she was; I guess she lubed up before coming to the booth.I ended up doing the deed after ten minutes or so, and she wanted to know if I wanted to go again. It wasn't bad at all. I wish I'd gone there first.

[QUOTE=Jackazzzz] I've only been to Thai soaps, so I said that in Thailand they often allow only one shot. She seemed surprised and said 'Well, any number of times is fine [with me]! ' You don't get that in Thailand, but it IS 6, 000 yen all in.[/QUOTE]Jack,Nice post about Yoshiwara. A little confused about the Thailand comment though. Never heard that before; and I've been to at least 20 Soaps there. Always been able to pop as many times as I could in the time alotted.Oh well, getting time to try a Soap here in Japan. Maybe that will be my Christmas present to myself.

As a side note, I expect to go to Tokyo sometime after Christmas to look around; will there be anything open between Christmas and New Years, or do shops start closing up for the holiday season?Also, I've been reading the posts for some time, and it seems like all of the in-shop providers listed are non-Japanese. I'm quite interested in experiencing a real Japanese woman for BJ or FS, does anyone know a relatively inexpensive place in Tokyo that they'd vouch for?Preferably not something like AM, since I don't feel up to using the phone or finding accomodations. I'd prefer to be able to go in, pay, try it out, and walk out without any hassles.

[QUOTE=The Whittmore]As a side note, I expect to go to Tokyo sometime after Christmas to look around; will there be anything open between Christmas and New Years, or do shops start closing up for the holiday season?[/QUOTE]Between Xmas and NY, you will find business as usual in Japan.However, don?t plan anything for January 1-4 or there about, because in the days after NY, Japan basically shuts down. There is really not much more you can do in those days other than going to temples and appease the gods for the new year.Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=The Whittmore]Also, I've been reading the posts for some time, and it seems like all of the in-shop providers listed are non-Japanese. I'm quite interested in experiencing a real Japanese woman for BJ or FS, does anyone know a relatively inexpensive place in Tokyo that they'd vouch for?[/QUOTE]Where did read that? If you had paid more attention, you would have noticed that in-shop providers in both BJ shops and soaplands are Japanese. The foreign providers are in the dingy slam-bang el cheapo FS places; that is a market segment that Japanese girls would avoid.Please read before asking questions based on false premises.

I hope I am posting in the right area. I am planning my first trip to Tokyo this coming year and need some guidance. I am stationed in Okinawa and I frequent the RLDs (Yoshihara & Maehara) rather frequently. I am not too fond of the prices of the soapies in Oki (Tsuji District). I also do not go to jack shacks because the prices are basically the same as the RLDs. I've only used an ES once and I thought it was good but rather high. I tend to stay away from the philipina "juicy girls" over here also because of the love motel fees..and in my opinion they are not as enthusiastic or talented as the Japanese women. So I guess I am looking for FS and/or BBBJs in RLDs for a reasonable price. I have thought about trying ES again because I will be staying in a hotel, but I would rather go to the services. I've been reading around the Tokyo forums and you guys have posted a wealth of information..I still feel I need some guidance, so I don't get ripped off. Also Toyko is freakin' huge compared to what's available in Okinawa. I have actually pulled of "Japanese only" girls because I am Hawaiian and can speak broken Japanese to get my point across. I am all ears for suggestions, where to stay, etc. (I haven't booked tickets, hotel accommodations). Any advice you guys give would be great.

[QUOTE=Nino]Where did read that? If you had paid more attention, you would have noticed that in-shop providers in both BJ shops and soaplands are Japanese. The foreign providers are in the dingy slam-bang el cheapo FS places; that is a market segment that Japanese girls would avoid.Please read before asking questions based on false premises.[/QUOTE]I apologize, then. I remember several instances of people saying that providers were new to the country or didn't speak Japanese. Soaplands don't really seem "inexpensive", which is what I was asking about. I thought I'd also read something that referred to a provider in Sugamo not being Japanese. Of course, the Kawasaki booths referred to so often seem to have only non-Japanese providers.I know that my experiences with FS over 10000 yen have yielded only non-Japanese people in Gunma, as well.So from all of that, I've been assuming that most providers here are non-Japanese women. Apologies if I offended, which I seem to have done.

[QUOTE=The Whittmore]II know that my experiences with FS over 10000 yen have yielded only non-Japanese people in Gunma, as well.[/QUOTE]Over 10,000 Yen is still el cheapo here. Of course, if you set your sights so low, then yes, you are right.

This is my first post but I've been reading for a while.I was wondering if anyone else uses the freelance boards?For those who are not aware of them, there are a lot of boards where freelances posts ads for "support" in exchange for services. Anything from selling dirty underwear to FS. An interesting thing I have noticed is that 90% offer FS, but 50% or less will offer BJ & Kiss.From the few boards I'm looking at, it seems that the board for plump girls has the cheapest and most willing girls. A lot offer FS, BJ, etc for 1.5Some go as low as 5000yen for all. I've sent out 6 messages stating I'm a foreigner and be interested in meeting and got 3 positive responses and 3 no-reply which could mean they got booked on that day, or won't do foreigners.I've also gotten 2 reply to my own ad offering to give support.The girl I did meet was 18, did everything and only asked for 10,000 Yen, which was a bargain!Anyway, I'm interested in sharing stories and URLs for those in the know.You need to read/write fluent Japanese anyways.!Cheers,David

[QUOTE=Tokina]This is my first post but I've been reading for a while.I was wondering if anyone else uses the freelance boards?For those who are not aware of them, there are a lot of boards where freelances posts ads for "support" in exchange for services. Anything from selling dirty underwear to FS. An interesting thing I have noticed is that 90% offer FS, but 50% or less will offer BJ & Kiss.From the few boards I'm looking at, it seems that the board for plump girls has the cheapest and most willing girls. A lot offer FS, BJ, etc for 1.5Some go as low as 5000yen for all. I've sent out 6 messages stating I'm a foreigner and be interested in meeting and got 3 positive responses and 3 no-reply which could mean they got booked on that day, or won't do foreigners.I've also gotten 2 reply to my own ad offering to give support.The girl I did meet was 18, did everything and only asked for 10,000 Yen, which was a bargain!Anyway, I'm interested in sharing stories and URLs for those in the know.You need to read/write fluent Japanese anyways.!Cheers,David[/QUOTE]I use them, and I have gotten results from them. But in my experience, I have to send a lot more messages out than just 6, so I can?t confirm the hit ratio. Although I would agree that on a board specifically for plump girls, it is probably better (if you like that, you in the Briar`s Patch in Japan).One downside is that "suppo" is not all that much cheaper than e.g. AM (most girls ask for at least "@3" (the at mark means man), and often they tend to over-estimate how attractive they look. So, it is kind of a gamble. And writing all the message and weeding out the inevitable spam is also not without effort, so there is no free lunch.

[QUOTE=Tokina]I was wondering if anyone else uses the freelance boards?[/QUOTE]I have to admit I am curious. Can you give some examples of the freelance boards you are referring to? I am a proponent of the English-language sites (World Friends, Japan Cupid, et al) but have not tried the locals yet (unless you count Dream Realize, which I wouldn't).