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I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.As I was leaving a tout from another one ushered me in (walking from the station, down that road its the first on the right). Paid 3000, got a terrible blowjob from a girl who barely got her mouth over the cock head, what a waste of time.Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.
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CB report
Tried Hikari from CB. Photo was accurate, other than her hair is now short. She is quite petite, not so apparent on photo. Great GFE, nice figure and tries hard to please. My only issue is her poor english, which makes it difficult to communicate and make the experience whole.We did DFK, BBBJ, CIM, FS and 2 shots. Very nice service! Recommendable.Anybody tried the platinum angels from CB, always wanted to know whether they are really worth the price.
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[QUOTE=I Fucked Haruhi]I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'. I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.[/QUOTE]Is that what you said? I agree, you don't understand Japanese.Gyaos.
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Platinum Angels
[QUOTE=Qwer123]Anybody tried the platinum angels from CB, always wanted to know whether they are really worth the price.[/QUOTE] Of the three current Platinum Angels I have had Maya over several times. Very beautiful, great service, not so great English, but that's ok. However I had Maya over back when she was a "Regular" Angel. I think she upgraded to Platinum about 6 months ago. CB is already a little pricier than AM, so the Platinum prices are really a stretch. I haven't had Maya over since her upgrade. I'm equally happy with the other "Regular" Angels, and particularly interested in Hikari after your report, thank you. I did try to book Lime (pronounced like the fruit, not like Lee-may) a couple of times, but she wasn't available the nights I wanted to get together. So for me staying with the Regulars is my preference.
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[QUOTE=I Fucked Haruhi]I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.<snip>Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.[/QUOTE]That's interesting, you're the first person ever to make a report of being asked to leave Jan Jan, regardless of Japanese ability.Sure you're not leaving something out here?
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Many people often post about racism here. For the most part I agree that there is a level of racism. But, I don't necessarily think there is more of it here compared to other countries. Espcially the U. S. While it is true that you that you generally won't get thrown out of a place for being of a different race in the U. S. , you might not get equal treatment. Especially in less metropolitan areas of the U. S.The Japanese will treat you differently if you are a foreigner. But they tend not to chase a black guy, or a gay guy down the street and beat him to death just for being different. I think that is a positive.Lastly, I'd like to mention something that I think people don't understand here in Japan. The Yakuza (Japanese Mafia) which runs the majority of the sex related industry, is ultra ultra ultra conservative and very right wing. They are as pro-Japan as the ultra conservative right wingers in the U. S. Are pro-America. This is why they actively refuse gaijin. This is also why it is more difficult to go into a love hotel with 3 or more people, or as a gay couple, or even alone. It's because of their conservative views on sex, I. E. It should be between a man and a woman. This is may seem strange, and is probably difficult for most foreigners to understand because on the one hand they are in the sex business but on the other, they have certain "morals" about sex.So, it's not an objective sampling to condemn this country based on experiences with sex shops.I definetly think there is racism here, but I like to think of it as a "kinder gentler" form of racism.[QUOTE=I Fucked Haruhi]I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.As I was leaving a tout from another one ushered me in (walking from the station, down that road its the first on the right). Paid 3000, got a terrible blowjob from a girl who barely got her mouth over the cock head, what a waste of time.Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Inasia]I definetly think there is racism here, but I like to think of it as a "kinder gentler" form of racism.[/QUOTE]I am not even sure about that. From reading his behaviour here (and that is *his* presentation, i.e. in his favour) he behaved like a a*se and probably screwed this place up for other gaijins.I mean, ridiculing the doorman about his small Japanese dick, and then complaining about racism. Good grief.
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[QUOTE=I Fucked Haruhi]As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.[/QUOTE]He probably couldn't understand what you were trying to say to him in your poor Japanese.
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JanJan
I have been to Jan Jan many times, and have always been welcomed. (I clearly appear to be a gaijin.) Some other shops on the street in Sugamo have turned me away as a gaijin, but Jan Jan has always been one of the reliable shops for entry in my experience. Also - it seems a little unbelievable that the tout would invite someone in but the man inside would refuse - they usually get their signals right. So the original story probably omitted something - my guess is "I fucked Haruhi" said something to provoke a negative response... But no matter what the cause, even if things had gone the way described, making a scene just doesn't get you anywhere - and it may just make it harder for other gaijins to be accepted ... sometimes you just have to suck it up and move on. You aren't going to change those xenophobic atitudes by making a scene.
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Jan Jan Second Time
Was just going to write about my second trip to Jan Jan when I read the stuff below. I was able to get in no problem.This time was much better then my last expereince, however, I did go at 10pm and had to pay 4,000. The place was backed and I waited about 15 minutes before my girl showed up. She said her name was Jun and she was Japanese, but I am pretty sure she was Chinese because her Japanese just sounded very odd.We first made out and rubbed on her kitty which was completely shaved. She then went down on Jr and gave a pretty damn good BJ and even though I was trying to fight cumming, I only lasted for about 7 minutes. This girl had much better skills then Aki who I first had. However, this girl lacked the GFE that I got from Aki. When we were done Jun talked for a minute and rushed me to the door and did not even give me a business card. Face: 6, teeth were kinda jacked up and its just a wavy thing I haveBody: 7, nice b cups and a little chubby, but fine by meTechinque: 8, really good and new what she was doing.Overall: 8, This was a much better expereince, however, I am hoping next time will be even better.As far as the comment made about being asked to leave Jan Jan . . . . I think you are leaving something out and are only helping to further perpetuate the stereotype they have of gaijin with that kind of attitude. Most Japanese are very friendly and both times I have been to Jan Jan they have been nothing but pleasant.
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Mizushobai racism?
[QUOTE=Inasia]So, it's not an objective sampling to condemn this country based on experiences with sex shops.I definetly think there is racism here, but I like to think of it as a "kinder gentler" form of racism.[/QUOTE]Back in the mid-80's I was on a big gray boat on its way back to port in Yokosuka. We parked out in the bay for 3 days to run propulsion checks, and the airwing guys got flown off by chopper back to Atsugi. Some pinhead writer was sitting out there watching the boat and trying to figure out why we were just sitting out there while some folks came back to land. He decided to go with the story that the Midway crew was infected with AIDS. When we finally got out of the stinkin base, the "Japanese Only" signs were damn near everyplace. Even on up into Yokohama and Tokyo.It took quite awhile for things to normalize, and the media played up on folks distrusting foreigners to help fan the flames of xenophobia. Really sucked.Having talked with bar owners and pimps at various places since then, a lot of them swear that the main reason they wouldn't allow foreigners is due to the language hassle. That and the expectation of high prices resulting in fights and things along those lines. Of course, while talking to them in Japanese the language piece sorta falls apart but they still wouldn't let this white dude buy a BJ or whatever.It is a drag to get rejected from P4P joints but I figure there's nothing to get pissed about. That isn't going to change anyone's mind, but will reinforce the notion that gaijins are assholes.Let's concentrate on helping to make the places successful that will let anyone in who acts decently and pays up. That's a strategy toward opening things up eventually.Wantacunta
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[QUOTE=I Fucked Haruhi]I went to Janjan today, the doorman showed me in then the guy inside like muttered something to me in a low voice, I couldn't hear him so I asked him to repeat and he just said 'you don't understand, so get out'.I then said, I understand japanese, I couldn't hear wtf you just said, it was noisy with the music and you just muttered something incoherent.He was like 'just get out'The guy was clearly just a fucking racist, and muttered shit just as an excuse to get rid off me. As I was leaving I just said to him that you're jealous of us westerners for having bigger cocks. He didn't say shit to me after that and I just walked out.As I was leaving a tout from another one ushered me in (walking from the station, down that road its the first on the right). Paid 3000, got a terrible blowjob from a girl who barely got her mouth over the cock head, what a waste of time.Sick of xenophobic, racist japan. No wonder hardly any gaijin live here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for ruining any future chance at that establishment.And if you are sick of japan, no one is stopping you leaving.When in Rome.
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[QUOTE=Nino]I am not even sure about that. From reading his behaviour here (and that is *his* presentation, i.e. in his favour) he behaved like a a*se and probably screwed this place up for other gaijins.I mean, ridiculing the doorman about his small Japanese dick, and then complaining about racism. Good grief.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you're right. He absolutely shouldn't have made comments like that. It just confirms their reasoning to reject foreigners. The "kinder gentler" aspect is that he didn't end up severely injured in a dumpster. In New York, if you tell the doorman of a strip club he's got a small dick. There's a pretty good chance there's going to be a fight! If you tell a guy with mob connections he's got a small dick, I think there's a chance that they'd want to rough you up a bit before letting you go.He know he doesn't have to worry about that here, which is exactly why he so confidently made such a comment.
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Jan Jan
So after reading the post about Jan Jan and having just been there the say before, I decided on my way home lastnight to go ahead and swing by. I had no problem getting in and got a great BJ. I even acted like I did not even speak very good Japanese and still not issue.Jan Jan is a good gaijin friendly place, and when you put it in perspective to what cost (s) are in the States, it is actually well worth it.Anyways this is just to FYI!