Berlin

Man 1

Thanks for the report and sorry to hear of your disappointment. I guess you "took one for the team" this time.

As I mentioned I was considering a visit to La Folie in the next week or so but perhaps now I will decide on one of Berlin's other establishments.

My experience with LF was about 3 years ago now and I was blown away by the place at the time. I went 3 times, 3 nights in a row and had a total of 6 girls. Of those girls, 4 were mind blowing and 2 were very good. I can only imagine that Artemis has cut into LF's business (it was not open at the time I went) and perhaps the top tier girls have migrated over there. And perhaps you hit an off night. It is also true that the girls of LF are somewhat restrictive (no bbbj etc.).

Anyway, once again TY and I hope your next day of pooning made up for LF.

AM

Thanks guys, I knew that La Folie would be a different type of experience than Artemis, which is why I tried to go in with an open mind (as well as other organs). I just found the quality of girls to be really below what I would want...maybe it was an off night, but there were well over a dozen girls that I saw.

Artemis may certainly have cut into the quality of other places. Interesting that in other cities, usually girls in the bigger, flashier, more expensive places have more restrictions than the "hole-in-the-wall" places. In Berlin, it seems like it is the opposite!

MI.

Thanks for those great reports.

Have you tried Frankfurt (Palace/Oase) or Cologne (Samya)? I would be interested to hear how you found them compared to Artemis / La Folie. I might be in Berlin for a few days mid November, but I'm contemplating if I should perhaps just go back to Frankfurt/Cologne instead for the FKK scene. I would be curious about the street scene that Jackyo and others talk about, sounds rather interesting. Also I heard that Berlin is much cheaper (except for the clubs, which seem a tad bit more) in terms of living costs and expenses. Mind you, flights seem to cost more though...

Sorry, I've only been to Goldentime FKK in Vienna, which was at least as big and nice as Artemis. Having read some of the reports, however, I will certainly make Frankfurt my next destination in Germany, since the FKK scene there sounds much more interesting than Berlin. And the street scene in Berlin seems to be very limited, by most reports.

MI

[QUOTE=Borat69]Thanks for those great reports.

Have you tried Frankfurt (Palace/Oase) or Cologne (Samya)? I would be interested to hear how you found them compared to Artemis / La Folie. I might be in Berlin for a few days mid November, but I'm contemplating if I should perhaps just go back to Frankfurt/Cologne instead for the FKK scene. I would be curious about the street scene that Jackyo and others talk about, sounds rather interesting. Also I heard that Berlin is much cheaper (except for the clubs, which seem a tad bit more) in terms of living costs and expenses. Mind you, flights seem to cost more though...[/QUOTE]

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My main issue is this: Kissing and DATY are essential for me. At the brothels such as KD, VK and Royal, are these generally considered extras, or are they included in the 80 Euro half-hour fee? How much would it cost (on average) to add these services? If the response to these questions is that it varies depending on the girl, how does one go about determining these things -- should I ask very precise questions when the girls are being introduced (to avoid surprises), or is this considered impolite in some way?
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Sorry, my answer is too late for the trip you mentionned.

I talk only about Kamilla-Dee :

1) Kissing & DATY : the answer rather is Yes or No instead of "Yes with extras". By the way, I met less and less ladies who kissed me ; may be I m now uglier than I was ?

2) The answer depends on the girl as you said but on the client too : a lady may kiss some but not all clients.

3) So if these services are really important to you, I think you should ask the ladies when they introduce themselves to you; I think it s not impolite but it will just point out a reality that often we want to forget : all these meetings are just trading business

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...Kamilla Dee is a very nice place with a selection of ladies that I would rate around 6 or 7, meaning that if I was pretty horny I would have taken them. But I wasn't so horny, due to the fact that I was suffering from food poisoning! :-(

I asked if any of the ladies did Franzosische pur/total and was told no.
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Kamilla-Dee has a safe-sex policy :it s why I appreciate a lot.

If you go to the URL :
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm[/url]

and then click on "Sexy ladies" (left frame)
and then click on "Health information" (nearly at the bottom of the page)
you will be able to read :

"We rule out the contact of muccous membranes with the classical virus carriers blood and sperm.
That means, we only practice vaginal or anal sex with condom
and when we give French kisses, we do not receive sperm with our mouth."

regarding extras at berlin bordellos, i find that it helps to speak with the hausfrau (the lady that lets you in who directs traffic) to let her know what you are interested in. she will know which girls do what and can guide you to making the right choice. then when you are alone with the girl you can confirm the services, before you pay the fee. this avoids disappointment and speeds up the choosing process.

i am also pretty sure that there is no ft at vk though perhaps you may find a girl who does some preliminary oral foreplay 'ohne'. this would in any case be very much ymmv and probably only available on subsequent visits.

and i know that some of the royal girls are open to ft (jolina?) but that it is an expensive extra. i think that they prefer covered oral.

update: it seems that ft/fo is indeed available from some vk girls. this afternoon i was looking at the bordello berlin page and noticed the set cards of the girls from vk. the first one i clicked on was nadia who offers ft/fo.

[url]http://www.bordelle-berlin.info/setcard-nadja-7605.html[/url]

it does not mention the price for this service.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]And I know that some of the Royal girls are open to FT (Jolina?) but that it is an expensive extra. I think that they prefer covered oral.

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Yes, she (Jolina) is. I don't think it was so expensive (EUR 30 maybe). I am sure you'll find enough doing FO.

[QUOTE=Toscana]Yes, she (Jolina) is. I don't think it was so expensive (EUR 30 maybe). I am sure you'll find enough doing FO.[/QUOTE]

Funny. I know Kumbu mentioned 15 euros for bbbj at Royal. I was there last year twice and was told 50 euros!!! The first time I just declined. The second time, some months later and after having read reports here, I asked for clarification. I mean "fünfzehn" & "fünfzig" can sound very similar to an English ear. It was indeed "fünfzig" and again I declined. It was also FT that I was after so maybe that makes a difference (cim).

Most places with an extra menu on a web page charge from 20-30 euros for FT with 25 being about average.

Just checked my September report:

Prices start at EUR 50 for 20 mins, 30 mins are EUR 75, 40 mins EUR 100. This includes DFK. Extras like BBBJ, CIM, anal are each EUR 30 extra. This was on a written "menu" they had handed me.

Wow, Kamilla Dee looks pretty good.

CAn someone tell me how it's like mid November. I can't decide if i should go back to Frankfurt FKKs or come check out Berlin. I'm just a bit concerned about the costs and scene. Sounds like value for money is less than Frankfurt.

Hi Grand Wazoo,

I tried to PM you this request but was told that you do not accept PMs...


It was not clear from you report if you had been to one or both of these establishments or if they were simply on your list of places to check.

If the former I wonder if you have any further info on the ladies (Maria of M I or Kelly from M II-or any other ladies) or the pricing of these places.

Thanks in advance

AM

Hi,

This will be a quick report as it was a bit disappointing and why dwell on what does not work.

I went to VC a few days back with the hope of seeing the lovely Maria. I was disappointed that she was not available but went instead for Nadja who was in fact my second choice from the web site.

[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/nadja.html[/url]

She is a lovely girl but the session itself left me a bit disappointed.

First the choosing. I was ushered into a small room and was told to wait. I waited...and waited...and waited...for about 10 mins. Then the first girl arrived (Steffi?). Then I waited again. Finally, I must have been there for 15 mins now, Nadja and another girl popped in.

Perhaps I should have cut and run at this point as I was hot (the room was sweltering) and feeling a bit grumpy at having to wait so long. But Nadja looked good so I went for her.

Then I waited again....

Finally Nadja shows up looking lovely and I think-now we can go to a big room and have fun. But no, it seems that this tiny room is all that is available. I have given my cash now and making a fuss seems too much trouble so I shrug and we get started.

Things are okay with Nadja. As I say she is a very lovely girl but she seems a bit distant. He cbj is top notch but when I lick her pussy there is absolutely no response from her.

The sex (doggy at her insistence) is okay but we do not seem to be able to get into synch. She is very, very tight and has no lube with her...

It is in fact a bit uncomfortable for me and my hard on suffers.

So we go back to a cbj (with a change of condom) and Nadja brings me to orgasm like this. I must mention that her cbj was very, very good and the orgasm I had was excellent. She did not stop as soon as I came and seemed to be able to keep it going much longer than is usual. So here at least she gets top marks from me.

As time was up we cleaned up and I was on my way.

So I would not repeat with Nadja but in fact this has more to do with VC than with her. I was disappointed at paying a premium and receiving less than 1st class service. In fact I have been much better treated at some of Berlin's second tier Bordellos.

I will not be back there for a while at least...

AM

[QUOTE=Borat69]Wow, Kamilla Dee looks pretty good.

CAn someone tell me how it's like mid November. .......[/QUOTE]
Here's Kamilla-Dee's schedule, updated every week (on Monday or Tuesday). Of course , a lady can change her mind (or get sick ... etc ..) so it's better to give a call to make sure who are there on the day you want to meet a lady (another choice is to ask for a private meeting) :

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm[/url]

Am planning to spend 24 hours in Berlin with a night stop in Artemis and a day stop at either KD or VK. Can anyone give me an advice on which of these two club to go (comparison of infrastructure, number of girls and quality and price). Thx a lot in advance.