I have encountered this situation more times than I can count. FriendlyGaijin has some very good points. Tencho has no idea what my expectations are so if he doesn't have any girls ready to service me his usual response is to me is "no" with the crossed arms. At that point, it's extremely counterproductive to ask for a reprieve. I would be challenging his authority to protect the girls. A better thing to do is to ask him if he knows of another place that would accept foreigners. Most of the times they answer in the negative and at that point they just want to get rid of you because they are in a very uncomfortable situation. Remember that their pay is fixed and they are not commission-hungry the way that touts are.If the guy touches you or makes physical contact trying to direct you out of the shop then it is best to be polite and just leave. He's doing it to get you out so you don't scare off Japanese customers. I know for a fact that if they do let foreigners in it is usually when there is little or no waiting because they want us out of the way and not in the waiting room. Foreigners in the waiting room makes it very uncomfortable for Japanese customers. Sometimes they want you in there for a short amount of time so they can get the camera on you for the girl to make sure you're OK. Other times, I've seen girls look out discreetly from behind the curtain.I am not trying to judge anyone here. I am just adding a constructive opinion.[QUOTE=Friendly Gaijin]I was not present at the scene, so I can only speculate what went wrong here.You write that you objected to the Tenchou's explanation by pointing to a sign on the wall.This might have given him the impression that you don't recognize his authority to decide what happens in his shop.A better approach might have been to just ask for the girl you had the last time. If she is available (maybe after some waiting time), fine, you can discuss details about the level of her service later directly with her.If not, you get a much better way out of the situation, without either party losing face or getting angry. You would just come back some other time.Anyway, I think the discussion should not be about what level of service some particular shop is ready to provide as a matter of general policy. It should be what individual girls are ready to do.In this particular situation that would mean you understand his explanation as "the girls free right now don't want to do more than hand service for you" as opposed to "this shop does not give you more than hand service as a matter of policy".And it would mean you don't answer by discussing the general policy of the shop (which is not for you to decide), but by asking if there are girls working here who are comfortable with the level of service you want (you already know the answer here), and then, when it would be convenient to show up to meet them.The same principle holds when someone enters a new shop, with no prior information from this board. Your pulse doing overtime, sweat flowing down your brow, you pop the big question:"What can this shop do for Gaijin costumers?"No.You ask:"Is there any girl working here comfortable with providing service for me?"Big difference.If the Tenchou wants to answer the first question in the affirmative, he basically commits all his girls to serving you and all your friends from this board. He can't do that if he has even one girl in his lineup that is not comfortable with the idea.If, on the other hand, he gives the nice answer to the other question, all he has to find is one girl that is ready for you.It should be obvious that your chances of scoring are much better in that case.[/QUOTE]