Tokyo

Well, I tried to get into a couple of the places under the Orange Group umbrella today, only to be turned away. The first one, I got a polite but firm "Japanese customers only, sorry" in English; the second I received a baleful stare, and when I asked "ii desu ka" I got a negative head shake. No worries though; there are plenty of gaijin-friendly options available in the neighbourhood, so I had a good time anyway.Thanks for the link Dendo, and for warning that the places might not be gaijin-friendly. For anyone here who can pass themselves off as Japanese, it sounds like the Orange Group might be a good option, especially for the price.[QUOTE=Dendo]The chain I mentioned is the Orange Group ([url]http://www.orange-group. Jp/top.html[/url]). I can't really speak to foreigner-friendliness as I usually try to pass as nihonjin. However, none of the girls I talked to have had foreigners as customers. Most of the girls working here are young and new to the business.60 minutes might be OK if you're only interested in bath+bed play; if you also want mat (lotion) play you should definitely go for the 80 minute course. If you really enjoy mat play then ask for a "technician", which is what the mat play experts are called.[/QUOTE]

I used to be a big fan of Angel massage place in Ebisu. They closed down about a year ago but I'm wondering if anyone has ever found any of the girls from there working somewhere else? They were real sweethearts, especially "Eri." Any info. would be most appreciated!Thanks,WJ

The AM staff told me that they no longer allow the AM girls to meet for MFM dates at love hotels. The reason being for security issues, thus MFM dates must be booked at legit hotels i.e. Hilton, Hyatt, ect. I guess they figure this screens out the wilder, reckless boys, and ensures the girls' safety. They must have had some negative experiences with a couple guys at a love hotel. Anyway, rather than clog up the board with everyone's theories as to why this new policy makes sense of not, let's simply accept it as AM's policy, and let it go at that, and seek out other providers who are willing to meet for MFM at love hotels. Manami, of tokyomeltykiss.com also informed me that she's uncomfortable booking MFM dates unless they are with established clients that she knows. Again, this is just an FYI post and I hope it won't start a "well you know what I think" barrage on the board.- Happy mongering!!

[QUOTE=Really Now]The AM staff told me that they no longer allow the AM girls to meet for MFM dates at love hotels. The reason being for security issues, thus MFM dates must be booked at legit hotels i.e. Hilton, Hyatt, ect. I guess they figure this screens out the wilder, reckless boys, and ensures the girls' safety. They must have had some negative experiences with a couple guys at a love hotel. Anyway, rather than clog up the board with everyone's theories as to why this new policy makes sense of not, let's simply accept it as AM's policy, and let it go at that, and seek out other providers who are willing to meet for MFM at love hotels. Manami, of tokyomeltykiss.com also informed me that she's uncomfortable booking MFM dates unless they are with established clients that she knows. Again, this is just an FYI post and I hope it won't start a "well you know what I think" barrage on the board.- Happy mongering!![/QUOTE]Was there some big demand for MFM and an ensuing discussion that I somehow missed? Why look for other providers and not just book at legit hotels?

Ahh, here we go..At a love hotel, each of the two guys will only have to shell out maybe 6K or 7K each, with no credit card or passport/alien card registration at the front desk. Love hotels are set up for discretion and convenience. Legit hotels are fine, but love hotels are on the whole cheaper and a lot less hassle. No big demand for MFM actually. I happen to have been in the market recently (check my post) and got some inquisitive PMs, so I thought I'd post here for future reference. No big deal actually.[QUOTE=Pita123]Was there some big demand for MFM and an ensuing discussion that I somehow missed? Why look for other providers and not just book at legit hotels?[/QUOTE]

Speaking of AM, I notice their website now boasts several discounts to the usual rates.Whilst a bit of money saved is always welcome, the main interest is that this reflects the general decline in the economy. I don't know if it will be reflected among the mainstream Japanese native providers.

[QUOTE=Llewelyn]Thanks for the link, Dendo. I notice their soaplands are based in Yoshiwara which, while not being a guarantee, is potentially a good sign for gaijin-friendliness. At the very least, if they turn me away at the door, there are places such as Pretty Girl and Prima Donna close by.[/QUOTE]Hi Llewelyn (or any other bros here),Have you been to the other soaplands under the same establishment as Prima Donna, (Dream group), such as Trendy, Club Yume and Tokyo Yume Monogatari? http:// [url]www.dream7000[/url]. com. Their prices seems to be cheaper. Would like to try out soapland once at least in my life, hehe

[QUOTE=Dirtysa]Hi Llewelyn (or any other bros here),Have you been to the other soaplands under the same establishment as Prima Donna, (Dream group), such as Trendy, Club Yume and Tokyo Yume Monogatari? http:// [url]www.dream7000[/url]. com. Their prices seems to be cheaper. Would like to try out soapland once at least in my life, hehe[/QUOTE]I actually went to Tokyo Yume (I think that was the one) the first time I heard about the Dream Group salons, but they seemed to be really busy so they let me choose a Prima Donna girl and drove me over to Prima Donna. That happened the second time I went there too, and I haven't tried since. It might be better to go at a time when it's not busy if you can manage it (maybe on a weekday morning).

[QUOTE=Llewelyn]I actually went to Tokyo Yume (I think that was the one) the first time I heard about the Dream Group salons, but they seemed to be really busy so they let me choose a Prima Donna girl and drove me over to Prima Donna. That happened the second time I went there too, and I haven't tried since. It might be better to go at a time when it's not busy if you can manage it (maybe on a weekday morning).[/QUOTE]Hmm but isn't the prices at Prima Donna more expensive, like by at least 10k Yen? How much did you pay in total? Guess that's why the girls there are more free, hehe Any chance you would try out the other places I mentioned then? If there is a chance, maybe we can go for a weekday early session together :P Thanks!

I checked out the four sites of this group.The three sites besides Prima Donna are not only 10,000 Yen cheaper but have a better line up girls in my opinion. They appear to specialize in busty ladies. Even though a few of them look a little plump that is certainly not a problem for me. I didn't see anything less than a C cup.While Prima Donna is more expensive, the girls look less attractive to me and most are petite.Perhaps the other three are a lot busier for the above reasons, but perhaps foreigners are funneled to Prima Donna for the same reasons.Maybe a phone in advance reservation would be in order to get the girl you really want.

Long time between reports for me. I have been out of action for a while but recently back in the game. I have information that may be of interest to fellows here. All this happened over the last few weeks.1. Sugamo pink salonsJan Jan's is still hit and miss but good value for money. Recently saw "Mai" there and have to say was one of the best deep BBBJ I have had. Downside was she had her period! I was shocked when she told me (that she would be working with it) but it really didn't make much difference to be honest. She has a great rack, smooth skin, good kisser (DFK) and soft personality. A great time if you can manage to see her. Also of interest was that I was waved in and decided to try the place near Jan Jan's called New. This was just out of curiosity because I was never waved in in the past. Unless you are after a CBJ given by older Thai women (I think, definitely not Japanese) then give this place a miss. Walked over the other side of the station to Madonna. Those places were still not interested in me (ie. white guy).2. SupergirlsWent to test the waters given others' reports of no gaijin being allowed in anymore. Interesting thing was I was offered to go in (around 6pm). The guy locked onto me from across the street and waved me in like in the old days. I just played dumb and kept walking because I wasn't up for it at that time. No harm done. I will go back when I am up for it and see if I can actually get in but thought this was interesting.3. YoshiwaraI have not stayed at a soapland yet but the recent discussion in this forum got me interested in checking out Yoshiwara. So I managed to get out there. It's a hike if you don't drive. I found some good directions on the net so let me know if you want them and I will post a link. My mission was to just acquaint myself and see who waved me in, then go back another time to stay. I had a few names in mind (Pretty Girl, Prima Donna, Playgirl) which have been mentioned here before. All waved me in enthusiastically but I kept walking because I wanted to see how many waved me in. So I traversed up and down every street. I found that numerous soaplands with different price levels were waving me in. I was surprised. Sorry I don't have their names but encourage other fellows to try the same and explore. Seems like the bad economy in Japan might be opening up this game a bit! Will report back once I actually stay at a soapland but thought you might like this info.Hitori De[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]I checked out the four sites of this group.The three sites besides Prima Donna are not only 10,000 Yen cheaper but have a better line up girls in my opinion. They appear to specialize in busty ladies. Even though a few of them look a little plump that is certainly not a problem for me. I didn't see anything less than a C cup.While Prima Donna is more expensive, the girls look less attractive to me and most are petite.Perhaps the other three are a lot busier for the above reasons, but perhaps foreigners are funneled to Prima Donna for the same reasons.Maybe a phone in advance reservation would be in order to get the girl you really want.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree with you totally, so did anybody here manage to go to the other 3 soaplands besides Prima Donna b4 though?

[QUOTE=Dirtysa]Hmm but isn't the prices at Prima Donna more expensive, like by at least 10k Yen? How much did you pay in total? Guess that's why the girls there are more free, hehe Any chance you would try out the other places I mentioned then? If there is a chance, maybe we can go for a weekday early session together :P Thanks![/QUOTE]Prima Donna is more expensive than the other three; as the site indicates, it's 35, 000 yen total while the other three are 25, 000 yen.I'm certainly open to trying one of the other three places, though I don't know if I'll be able to get out for a weekday morning session for a while (I'm going to start a new job which will preclude me from that for a couple months or so) but if you feel more comfortable going with someone at a different time I might be up for it sometime next month. Feel free to fire me a PM about it.

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]I checked out the four sites of this group.The three sites besides Prima Donna are not only 10,000 Yen cheaper but have a better line up girls in my opinion. They appear to specialize in busty ladies. Even though a few of them look a little plump that is certainly not a problem for me. I didn't see anything less than a C cup.While Prima Donna is more expensive, the girls look less attractive to me and most are petite.Perhaps the other three are a lot busier for the above reasons, but perhaps foreigners are funneled to Prima Donna for the same reasons.Maybe a phone in advance reservation would be in order to get the girl you really want.[/QUOTE]I could argue about the girls' attractiveness, but then I'm into petite girls just as much as I'm into busty ones. While I saw a number of hot girls on the other three shops' pages, to my eyes there was a greater concentration of them at Prima Donna (and the three I met were attractive). Again, not something I can argue from an objective standpoint since it's just my opinion.That said, I do see your point about funneling foreigners to the more expensive place, and the same thing occurred to me the second time it happened. Your point about making a phone reservation in advance is a good one, and when I have the time to go again I'll probably do that.

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]I tried this KDL agency "chance" around Uguisudani. Used them once before, I remember the girl was really nice so I decided to try them again. Asked for Aria, the girl on the picture showed up 20 mins later. Very nice, nice F cups, enhanced but very well done, amazing body, she could be in an AV video, no English, little Japanese, total damage was 25000 yen for 100 mins, worth it.[url]http://www.chancedh.com/main.html[/url][/QUOTE]The girls on the website all look impossibly beautiful. Has anyone else used this agency?