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prostitution in vienna – a comprehensive summary
about ten years ago i postet here my first summary of prostitution in vienna, but it is no longer online and outdated. here is a new version, which i will update from time to time, because there is a lot of recent information which change sometimes fast. this report is dated summer 2009. i am paysex client in vienna since 25 years and native viennese, so my english may not be perfect. if you find some errors, correct me, i do know much but not everything.
prostitution is completely legal in vienna – with some limitations for the girls, which i will mention later. to be in full compliance with laws, a woman who wants to prostitute herself has to register at the authorities of vienna and has to undergo an official weekly health check. at this time, 2009, there are about 1.850 registered girls in vienna, and even more work without registration, mainly in escort services and massage parlours. in vienna you can choose between 100 night-bars, 200 sexclubs, 10 of them huge, and 160 massage-parlours – nearly 500 locations where you can get sex and erotic services against payment – not to speak about the 100 escort-agencies and the countless streetgirls. so many say, vienna is a big brothel as a whole – many possibilities to choose. here are the details:
1. street prostitution
till 20 years ago, street prostitution was a main part of the vienna scene. official regulations, which prohibit street prostitution in some areas in vienna and 150 m around every church, kindergarten, or similar official locations, and the outcome of the internet have diminished street prostitution. about 1960 the street girls were banned from the inner city, and till around 2000 the gürtel area was the main scene. today you hardly find any girl at gürtel, because churches are nearly everywhere, and due to the regulations mentioned above there are only very few fitting places at gürtel.today you find street girls mainly in the prater area and in the area behind westbahnhof.
prater area
in the area near messe (messestraße, nordportalstraße) mainly coulored women are found, and sometimes many. usually they provide the act in the car, or in the bushes there. on the other side of ausstellungsstraße, there is a housing area called stuwerviertel. street prostitution is prohibited there, nevertheless you find streetwalkers there, mainly at daytime. police tries to get them out of there, and for the unexperienced client it is difficult there, he even may be fined by police.
westbahnhof area
in this area mainly women from eastern europe are found. the streets are felberstraße, linzer straße, parts of hütteldorfer straße, and mariahilfer straße west of gürtel (called outer mariahilfer straße). the authorities want to ban street walkers from outer mariahilfer straße, but they are not very successful. streetwalkers on felberstraße, hütteldorfer straße and linzer straße are competely legal, often checked by police. the act is provided either in the car or in clubs nearby. the prices depend on area, service provided and hour of night and start about eur 30,-. the standard price for covered oral and intercourse is about eur 40 to 50 (prater area: 30); if going to a club in the westbahnhof area, calculate eur 70 and more. some streetwalkers provide uncovered services, often the charge that higher. although the health status of the prostitutes in vienna is good, i do not recommend uncovered service with streetwalkers for health reasons. it’s a bit risky.
2. massage parlours
when in 1993 or 1994 prostitution was banned from flats (since then prostitution in normal flats and apartments it is not allowed, unless they have a separate entrance from the streets or prostitution is provided in all flats of a house) the viennese women invented massage parlours. most of these flats are legally registered as „massage“ or „aroma therapy“, but mostly it is pure prostitution. in 75% of the „erotic massages“ in vienna full sexual services are provided. all in all, we have about 160 massage parlours in vienna. you can divide them in following groups:
thaimassage
in the viennese thai parlours, real good non-erotic thai massage is provided. men and women are clients there. nebertheless, in some of these parlours for male clients a „hand relief“ for additional 20 – 40 eur is offered inofficially directly by the massage girl. but i wouldn’t call that erotic. examples are [url]www.thai-classic.com[/url] or [url]www.thaimassage.at[/url]
„real“ erotic massage
the classical erotic massage is provided by a few studios. this is really recommended. in a very pleasant surronding you are treated by a naked girl with oil, usually on a mattress at the floor, often with many mirrors around. at the end she serves you are mostly really good orgasm, only with her hands. this services cost about 100 to 130 eur for an hour. i recommend the following parlours:
[url]www.shivamassage.com[/url] , all available girls are politely introduced to you, and you choose. [url]www.last-paradise.at[/url] , not so central and slightly less expensive, but equally good. further [url]www.wellness4you.at[/url] [url]www.touchofstone.at[/url] , [url]www.studio-renaissance.at[/url] .
„viennese“ erotic massage
these are the mentioned massage parlours, where you get a massage, more ore less good, and sex in the end, usually covered, sometimes owo. calculate 80-100 for 30 minutes and 130-150 eur for an hour service. i recommend following parlours in this section:
[url]www.beauty-and-art.at[/url] , expensive but very nice ambiente, [url]www.studio-penthouse.at[/url] , [url]www.sauna-royal.at[/url] , [url]www.emotion-wellness.at[/url] . all of them very nice locations, and there are 100 more.
china massage
in the last years many chinese massage parlours opened in vienna. also all parlours which call themselves „japan massage“ are china massages in reality, you will hardly find japanese women in vienna. tell me if you do so. meanwhile there are about 60 of these chinese locations all over vienna. in conrtrary to the other parlours, fees are negotiable there. mostly „mama“ asks you what yu have paid last time or what you want to pay. the common fees are 50-70 eur for 30 minutes and 80-130 eur for an hour of typically asian-type service. in chinese massage parlours owo is standard, quite often you get even uncovered intercourse without additional fee and sometimes even without mentioning by the girl. so be careful, if you do not want this. the best chinese parlours at the moment are mollardgasse 23-14 and ullmannstraße 38. further yoko’s at jägerstraße 33 and dampfgasse 3. most of these locations have no internet site.
3. escorts
the escort scene in vienna is very unusual for international clients, so read this carefully.
first: some agencies have phantasy photographs in the internet from girls who do not work with them. if you book a girl there, some other girl will occur. this is annoying, and you must not book in these agencies. second: some agencies have many, up to 11 (eleven) names and also many different internet sites. so it may happen that you think you call five different agencies and in reality you spoke only to one. there are about 100 ecort agencies in vienna, but if you do not count multiple agencies, there are not more than about 40. third: most agencies tell you only the basic fee, and for additional services additional fees are calculated. so what seems to be cheap in the beginnig can become quite expensive. but not everything is bad – if you get the right agency, you will be very happy.
at the moment i recommend following agencies:
[url]www.liebeselfen.com[/url] is managed by jasmin, a former sexworker; my favourite agency at the moment. 140,- first hour plus 25 taxi fee. no additional service fees (except a-level)
[url]www.queenofescort.com[/url] is also managed by a former sexworker, michelle. same prices, also no additional service fees.
[url]www.traum-escort.at[/url] if you want to save some money. not the high standard, but good honest service for an unbeatable price (109,- first hour, no taxi fee, owo and covered intercourse included. additional fees for cim an a-level). they have no photos in the internet but manager karin will e-mail them to you in advance upon request.
futher recommended: [url]www.playmodels.at[/url] (you see also nicole at the website, she is the manager and visits also herself) , [url]www.escort-bluemoon.at[/url] , [url]www.hostessing.at[/url] , [url]www.6teufelchen.at[/url]
the last one (6teufelchen) has many different other websites, but it is still the same agency: [url]www.austrian-angels.at[/url] , [url]www.fancyescort.at[/url] , [url]www.heavens-gate.at[/url] , [url]www.magictouch.at[/url] , [url]www.night-watch.at[/url] and [url]www.vipescort.at[/url] are all 6teufelchen.
if you book one of these recommended agencies, you will probably not be disappointed.
there are also some independent escorts, but i cannot really recommend one at the moment. except perhaps nicoletta, but she is the same as nicole of playmodels (see above)
4. fkk-saunaclubs
the trend from germany has finally reached vienna and there are three such clubs. a big wellness area where men and women pay entrance fee and find each other inside. the difference to germany: the austrian clubs are slightly more expensive, and only registered prosttitutes are admitted to the clubs. the entrance is about 80,- for the whole day and for 30min sex with a girl calculate 60,-. the fkk-clubs are recommended for the connaisseur who wants to choose his girl from many of them walking around. the clubs are:
[url]www.goldentime.at[/url] , the most popular
[url]www.dd-clubsauna.at[/url] and
[url]www.fkk-funpalast.at[/url]
5. laufhaus
in vienna a house, in which each apartment is rented to a different girl is called laufhaus. you go through the house and choose among the availabe girls. some laufhaus has also a contact area. now we have about seven of them in vienna. the oldest is [url]www.juchgasse11.at[/url] and the most popular is [url]www.kontakthof.at[/url] but not very central. the others are [url]www.house4love.at[/url] , [url]www.haus599.at[/url] , [url]www.laufhaus-rachel.at[/url] , [url]www.kontakthaus.at[/url] and [url]www.floridusgasse66.at[/url]
6. smaller clubs
the main part of vienna sex business happens in smaller sex clubs (you can call them brothels), there are a lot of them in vienna. in those smaller clubs you find usually between 1 and 5 girls to choose from, and many of the clubs have internet sites. see resources section beow. if i should recommend any, i would name [url]www.club4fun.at[/url] with three locations. they have a very detailed internet site where you can see which girl is actually available; you can even choose your girl by a „service filter“. also i never heard bad things about [url]www.club-doreen.at[/url] doreen herself is a specialist in role-play, so if you fond of that variety, she is your girl. thirdly i would recommend [url]http://www.luci4you.at/english/frame_eng.html[/url] also with english webpages. but there are so many more...
7. bars
as mentioned in the beginning of that article, there are about 100 night-bars in vienna. they usually open in the evening, about 9 o’clock and are open till 5 or so. mostly the girls are participating on drink expenses, so calculate some money for that too. an hour in a separate room with the girls costs between 150,- and 250,- in most bars. the most expensive and classic bar in vienna is babylon [url]www.babylon1.com[/url] , although i heard that it is not any more as it was in former times. but if you are ready to spend 500+ for a nice evening, that may be your place, including fine food. website. a second fine bar in midtown, not as expensive, is [url]www.josefine.at[/url] in sonnenfelsgasse (only german site available at the moment). if you like bar atmosphere and do not want to spent so much money, try [url]www.exzess.at[/url] not as central as the other ones. but very nice girls (ellen!) and 170,- an hour in an extra room (separée) with her. avoid those tourist bars in kärntner straße.
special interests
there are many more possibilities to get paysex in vienna, but maybe not for your first time in vienna. there are peep-shows, swinger-clubs, erotic cinemas where it comes to some action in the seats, balkan ladies in the cafes around westbahnhof, parties and private girls who find their clients via internet....
resources
girls, clubs and agencies advertise in [url]www.kontaktbazar.at[/url] and in [url]www.sexmagazin.at[/url] (link: sexfuehrer, wien). in the daily newspaper kronen zeitung there are more than 300 ads each day with lots of phone numbers – but it’s on your own risk to get bad service. if you read german you can try the biggest forum, the [url]www.erotikforum.at[/url] but very confusing. much better and totally non-commercial is [url]www.hasenforum.com[/url] , but unfortunately password-hidden.
if you come to vienna, do not hesitate to contact me for some consultation. by the way, on oct 7 some friends of mine and myself organize an afternoon erotic party with the best available girls of vienna for a reasonable price – so if you may be interested to participate contact oberelfe (jasmin) at liebeselfen.com, she knows how i can be found. some of her girls will also participate.
any questions?
glenlivet
[QUOTE=Sapswami]Has anyone done some business with this agency? According to the website, there are quite a few stunners. The price is also reasonable, starting at 150 Euros for the first hour.[/QUOTE]
I do not recommend this agency. High additional fees, and the pictures are highly photoshop-pushed. Poor advisory service by the agency. You may be lucky with your girl from that agency, but you can also have bad luck because they have poor supervision for the girls.
[QUOTE=Glenlivet]
About ten years ago I postet here my first summary of prostitution in Vienna, but it is no longer online and outdated. Here is a new version, which I will update from time to time, because there is a lot of recent information which change sometimes fast. This report is dated summer 2009. I am paysex client in Vienna since 25 years and native Viennese, so my English may not be perfect. If you find some errors, correct me, I do know much but not everything.
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You're welcome back, Glenlivet.
Always the #1 source for the best Wiener info.
We've missed you, old boy...
[QUOTE=Glenlivet]Prostitution in Vienna – a comprehensive summary
About ten years ago I postet here my first summary of prostitution in Vienna, but it is no longer online and outdated. Here is a new version, which I will update from time to time, because there is a lot of recent information which change sometimes fast. This report is dated summer 2009. I am paysex client in Vienna since 25 years and native Viennese, so my English may not be perfect. If you find some errors, correct me, I do know much but not everything.
An excellent piece of research and very well put.
I am scheduled to be at Vienna but on October,11th,4 days later,never mind and keep it up!!
Hello everyone!
I am a newbie to the mongering scene and visited an FF/sauna Goldentime in Vienna. I enjoyed the facilities and the environment on a nice summer afternoon. It was smaller than I had immagined yet quite quiet. It was quite a visual feast in the daytime.
I approached a few of SPs and chatted with them. I liked a particular gal and decided to proceed to next level.
I was not interested in intercourse but only in a covered BJ, I had brought my own condom but she refused to use it and insist I use what she had. I went along with that.
As I had not been sexually active for a while, it was a quick and fast done and over with. She brought me to ejaculation within a few minutes. (She laid me down and was on her side while doing the CBJ)
End of interaction, paid and off to the shower. After the shower as I applied some disinfectant to the groin area, to clean any bacterial etc infection (I am prone to that) I noticed a small minor cut due to a painful reaction with the disinfectant liquid. I had my nails well cut and filed so no chance of cutting myself.
Now I am worried of what actually caused this cut? And more to it?
Am I being paranoid or? I couldn; t partake in any action after this incident and left after a little while.
More crazy thoughts through my head afterwards which I have not been able to put to rest.
Has anyone experienced similar situations?
This has severly affected me to say the least as well as my private life with gf (who I wouldn; t want to endanger due to my actions). I would have to wait for 2 weeks to test atleast and this can go on for 6 months.
I would like some input/advice from fellow mongerers here to help me with this. As I am in a fix and alone in this.
Any inputs would be appreicated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Soulgasm]...
I was not interested in intercourse but only in a covered BJ, I had brought my own condom but she refused to use it and insist I use what she had. I went along with that. As I had not been sexually active for a while, it was a quick and fast done and over with. She brought me to ejaculation within a few minutes. (She laid me down and was on her side while doing the CBJ)
End of interaction, paid and off to the shower. After the shower as I applied some disinfectant to the groin area, to clean any bacterial etc infection (I am prone to that) I noticed a small minor cut due to a painful reaction with the disinfectant liquid. I had my nails well cut and filed so no chance of cutting myself.Now I am worried of what actually caused this cut? And more to it? Am I being paranoid or? I couldn; t partake in any action after this incident and left after a little while. More crazy thoughts through my head afterwards which I have not been able to put to rest.Has anyone experienced similar situations? This has severly affected me to say the least as well as my private life with gf (who I wouldn; t want to endanger due to my actions). I would have to wait for 2 weeks to test atleast and this can go on for 6 months.I would like some input/advice from fellow mongerers here to help me with this. As I am in a fix and alone in this.
Any inputs would be appreicated.[/QUOTE]
First, my disclaimer: I am not a doctor.
Second, I think you're over-reacting.
From what I understand, you had a BJ with your penis covered by a condom. While STDs could be transmitted orally, unless the condom was broken, it's highly unlikely a disease could have been transmitted to you that way.
Also, I think I'm reading that the cut is NOT on your penis. I don't see how this can give you a STD even it was caused the girl's fingernail. You're more likely to get a mild infection from skin-born bacteria, something anyone can get anytime. Heck, you could do that to yourself when your nails are longer while changing your underwear or getting dressed in the morning.
I think a panic like yours is not unusual for someone new to mongering. The doubts, questions, anxiety related to STDs, the "what ifs", "what's that spot on my penis/groin ?, etc, etc
My recommendation is to calm down, think about what really happened (which, to me, seems like nothing to worry about), and, if you're still worried, then try to find a doctor or nurse you feel comfortable with confiding in. For some people, this might be a stranger you won't see again like at a local government/city medical clinic. Go to a clinic in another town if that feels even safer. Then describe to that person exactly what you told us and ask them what are the chances of having contracted an STD from the encounter.
In my non-medical opinion, I don't think you have anything to worry about and the chances of contracting an STD is close to 0 %.
Rufus
Thank you Rufus
Yes the cut was on the balls not the penis. There could have been a number of reasons for it.
And I do think I am overreacting but my anxiety is palpable and so. Thanks for the reply
The "what if" question that popped in my head was. If the SP had tried to do something purposefully, a malicious act. For no reason whatsoever which is quite a crazy question but have you ever come across such an incident?
Otherwise and any ways I will have to wait for atleast 2 weeks and go to testing and pray. Whew
I really appreciate your response, it has relieved me of somewhat my naive and newbie anxiety (though not completely. But I will deal with it)
Soulgasm, I am a physician and an infectious diseases expert as well. I agree whole heartedly with my non-medical collegue. You appear to be completely over-reacting to this incident. More likely you had a reasonably fresh cut due to any number of reasons and only noticed it because of the irritating effect of the disinfectant / soap.
Put this behind you and move on my friend.
Stirling
[QUOTE=Soulgasm]The "what if" question that popped in my head was. If the SP had tried to do something purposefully, a malicious act. For no reason whatsoever which is quite a crazy question but have you ever come across such an incident? Otherwise and any ways I will have to wait for atleast 2 weeks and go to testing and pray. Whew I really appreciate your response, it has relieved me of somewhat my naive and newbie anxiety (though not completely. But I will deal with it)[/QUOTE]
Let's just say I know someone very close to me (wink, wink) who had a similar experience and similar emotions. And this person eventually realized it was nothing - who would think seeing a piece of lint on the privates would cause so much anxiety, :-). As for malicious act, it sounded as if you and the SP had an acceptable experience. From what you said, there was no reason for her to do anything purposely to hurt you. My bet is she may have accidentally nicked you with a fingernail while putting the condom on you.
Note Stirling's message. I think if you consider the possibilities you will see there is nothing to worry about.
My best wishes...
Rufus
First and foremost a big Thank You to both Rufus and Stirling.
This forum has been very informative but most importantly as I realize supportive. Which means a lot. It really helps to have members like Rufus and Stirling calm you down and point out what a newbie 's anxiety could be. And help him laugh at it now (well almost there! )
Besides being new at this, I guess it could the ghost of the guilt of mongering (but then that is another forum discussion by itself.) that adds to these anxiety and panic moments. Not to mention the ever increasing plethora of STDs and non STD like swine flu. Etc.
Stirling as a physician, when would you recommend a test for possible STDs including the big one. In terms of the time frame after the incident. I may or may not go through it as my nerves are calmer but it would be nice to know what is the optimum time. (I know this is asking for free advice. But one day I will make it up. It would rule out any niggle doubts.
Once again a Big thank you to both of you.
Cheers
Well, the answer to your question is somewhat complicated and even among experts you may find different approaches. There is the approach that dictates testing after any theoretical exposure and then there is the practicle approach. I tend to use the former.
Let's start with the big one, HIV. First we have to establish risk. While there are many variables to consider including an infected persons stage of illness, viral load etc, in general, the risk of transmission (outside of Africa for reasons I won't go into here), from female to male is approximately 1/1000 for each act. This assumes unprotected vaginal intercourse with a KNOWN HIV positive female. Now, if intercourse is protected and if the females HIV status is unknown (and likely negative), the risk is very very very low. Fortunately, the HIV virus is not very efficient at transmission outside of direct blood contact. So you can see that if you protected the risk is exceedingly small. The risk of HIV transmission from a BBBJ, while likely not absolutely zero, is so small the risk appoaches zero.
Employing a less scientific approach to reducing risk, one should stay away from lower end street girls, that statistically are more likely to engage in higher risk behaviours such as IV drug abuse, sharing needles etc than high end escorts. Obviously this is a generalization, but there is some ancedotal evidence to support this approach.
Based on what you have stated, I would NOT recommend an HIV test. The downside of testing in situations where there is a low pre-test probability is that all tests are prone to some degree of false positives and in a situation like that, you will suffer several months of anxiety before the situation is resolved.
Of greater concern, are some of the other STIs such as HSV, Chlamydia, GC, and mycoplasma infections. All of these are much easier to contract. In many cases, the female may be asymptomatic and not even know she is infected. Fortunately, most, although not all, males tend to be symptomatic. Both Chlamydia and GC, although fucking unpleasant, are reasonably easy to treat. A single 400mg tab of cefixiime for the GC and 1 gram of azithromycin will clear up most cases.
Mycoplasma presents very similar to Chlamydia and is treated much the same, although longer courses of antibiotics are sometimes required as the failure rate is higher.
While I shouldn't recommend this, whenever I travel to Vienna (Babylon) about 4 times a year, I swallow cefixime and azithromycin prophylactically on my way home the plane. You didn't hear that from me LOL.
HSV is the real bastard, because it is quite prevalent and as you know, there is no cure, although treatments exist to minimize the outbreak.
In any event, based on what you've said, I wouldn't go running in to some clinic to get tested. Doesn't sound to me like you have anything to worry about.
Stirling
Glenlivet,
Thanks for a comprehensive report on Vienna.
Any suggestions where to go for the classic slim & big tits girl? Have a fetish on big ones. Tit play etc.
Will be in Vienna in late Sep.
Thanks
Stirling and Rufus, Once again Thank you for all the advice and information.
This has certainly helped me and made me wiser. A suggestion for the forum is that it could help all if there was a thread dedicated to "what if" for panic moments or a general precaution to do list (or even not to do list) while engaging in the hobby. Is there one? I know is it is common sense for most things but then again common sense is not that common!
Cheers,
Soulgasm
I am in Vienna now for a week-
Would like to get recommendations on who you think are the BEST INDIVIDUAL ESCORTS (there are so many to choose from) to see from Glenlivet's recommended escort services below:
[url]www.liebeselfen.com[/url]
[url]www.queenofescort.com[/url]
[url]www.traum-escort.at[/url]
[url]www.playmodels.at[/url]
(or independents)
Saw Nicoletta last night for 2 hours...WOW!!- truly amazing - report to follow..
Glenlivet or others care to comment?
Thanks for your thoughts!