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[QUOTE=Homer69]Lion, don't worry about the lecture, it's a matter of personal choice. I feel you just have to do it without offending anyone so they lose face. It's the reason I never send guys to NYNY or any of their sister shops. I did it once with a young co-worker (from the UK) and he was really pretty disappointed in getting service from a lady who was his grandmother's age. He said the service was OK but the lady was just too old and too unattractive for his taste. It's like Osaka Fats and Freajia in Osaka. You get what you pay for and it's not for young, horny guys. It's better to send them to a Chinese FS esute.[/QUOTE]I agree about the choice part, but bait and switch is another case. We know that in most Japanese places you get what you pay for, and the picts are less doctured. Cheap=Old, Expensive=Young.The KDH websites however promise very attractive girls, but the ones they send out can range from 5-10. I agree being kind is important, but these are working girls who understand that if you say they are not your type, then I am sure they won't loose too much face. Most companies will send replacements efficiently, as they want your money and know there are many other places you can call.I'll accept a switch if the replacement is to my liking, but as Yuffei was "repulsed", he really should not have paid. However the decision needs to be made before the clothes come off, no doubt.

[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]So, without having direct prior experience of checking out that particular local scene, I could see it as a potentially memorable and interesting tourism activity, with assurance of onsen relaxation and some drinks on tap, and the other monger-play stuff just being gravy, if everything fell into place.[/QUOTE]Kamiyamada OnsenRevisiting the topic for the benefit of Tokyo denizens, I visited Kamiyamada Onsen (Togura Station, a 16-minute ride on the Shinano Line about four stops from Ueda Station after coming on the Shinkansen from Tokyo), to check out the scene. I found it comparable money-wise.- and even better in terms of quality and variety of providers on offer that you can check out in person (instead of a photoshopped website or photos you might be shown before entering a shop) as well as in terms of the monetary outlay and duration of p4p. Without giving away too many of my secrets, I am sure the majime/persevering types in Japan can easily fill in the blanks to secure any needed info.Do the math: Despite some posters still-glowing reports about AM and its offshoot girls-gone-independent, and similar agencies at which you may or may not get FS (and if you do, you often have to pay extra).- you have to admit they reflect varying at best, and disappointing at worst, experiences (*at the very least, * 35, 000 yen plus hotel); the variable or high rejection rates at other, desirable service providers (or at least the ones you know you'd like to try but feel you never would be allowed to as a gaijin); down to the generally positive KDH to be had for slightly less money; and the even less expensive Chinese esthes.Set all that aside. I submit to you the following: 5,000-6,000 yen from a discount ticket shop for a reserved seat each way on the Shinkansen from Tokyo or Omiya to Ueda (60-75 minute ride), plus 330 yen each way from Ueda to Togura on the local train (15-16 more minutes). Advance Internet reservations can secure a 5,000 per night room including breakfast at a clean, large national business hotel chain located **RIGHT ON THE CUSP** (er, it starts right on the next block) of the Kamiyamada Onsen "entertainment district." Cursory 3, 000 fee to enter one of at least a couple hundred drinking establishments for 60-90 minutes nomihodai, plus 1, 000-2,000 per drink that you should be a polite, non-pennypinching guy to buy for the lady who interests you (and her bar Mama, if necessary).- at this time you get lubricated (alcoholically, if you like, or stick to soft drinks if you must, though the la). You can either keep drinking, or get down to p4p business. Fees for recreational activities that follow.- as well as the general description and characterizatiion of the district and the ladies therein.- are correct, as were given by the Jitsuwa Knuckles article posted earlier in relation to this topic.Further tips: Stay at that hotel mentioned above, particularly its annex building, which has the cheaper room rates and is separate from the main building where the front desk is located. Despite a security camera at its entrance and an advisory in the hotel info packet in the room's desk drawer requesting guests to meet any visitors in the lobby, no issues were encountered for a single-room traveler wishing to bring a visitor to the room. If you stay at one of the town's numerous ryokan, or, and here I am guesssing, maybe even other business hotels, you likely won't be able to bring back visitors, who in their quest for business won't even try to go to a ryokan and will likely try to steer you instead to the district's only LH within walking distance (not sure about any others within driving distance), which a cursory stroll revealed to be a bit run-down (sort of like a small motel of the Motel 6 variety and also costing 4,500-5,000 yen for a stay) and completely unlike the spacious, clean, modern and spoilt-for-choice LHs we have in Tokyo). Saturday night seemed to be more lively.- snacks open from about 8 pm Until 2 am .- while Sunday some shut down at midnight. Don't know about other days of the week. Good food there in the district (and especially elsewhere in town from regular restaurants earlier in the day and evening). Overall, rather fetching options to be had.At any rate, it might not be everyone's cup of tea, but if you have the time (if you've read this far you obviously have the money), I maintain it's an interesting, viable option given the cleanup campaigns over the past few years in and around Tokyo.Happy hunting![size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Of late, seems most of the Chinese este in Ueno are unnamed though touts everywhere around the area of Champs DElysees/NYNY. Standard is 10,000 Yen for FS and all have been more than satisfactory. A few seem to move around the area as the same mama-sans occasionally re-appear.

Those touts seem to come and go. I've never taken them up on it because I'm usually there for a bath at NYNY. They always caution me that I'll get obaasan (grandmotherly) ladies there. It's comical to talk to them about this. I like to ask them (in Japanese, of course), "How old? 30-something or 40-something?" They get very animated and say, "Older, more older." And then I say, "50-something???" and they come back and say, "Sometimes, probably, older, please try one of my ladies. They are much younger and more cute" I then ask about FS and they affirm, "Yes, of course," using gestures to get the point across. Do you think they are unnamed now due to crackdowns by LE?[QUOTE=Kanda]Of late, seems most of the Chinese este in Ueno are unnamed though touts everywhere around the area of Champs DElysees/NYNY. Standard is 10,000 Yen for FS and all have been more than satisfactory. A few seem to move around the area as the same mama-sans occasionally re-appear.[/QUOTE]

The Economy must be bad, or maybe its because of Oban Week, but for whatever reason Asian Mystique is offering discounts through the 16th of Aug. Well, never one to turn down a discount decided to see who was available. Long list of girls available last night, biz must be slow. Anyway decided to try Aika. As others have mentioned, she is FAR more attractive then the photos on AM's website, she has lost considerable wieght, I certainly would not call her thin by Japanese standards, thick might be a good adjective. Her tits are no where near and ecup hahahaha Her boobs are actually on the small side (they look bigger on the AM pics) so if your looking for giant tits, look elsewhere. So down to the details. This was way more of GFE then I wanted. Now, don't get me wrong, Aika is very pleasant and interesting to speak with, but last night I was looking for some solid sex, not a lot of converstation. I had the 3 hour course (the discount was 5000 yen) We spent about an hour and 1/2 talking music, world travel etc etc, she was sitting on my lap, cuddling, kissing etc. Now again, ordianarily I like this kind of warm-up, prior to the deed, but last night it I felt like I was clock watching and just wanted to get her naked as fast as possible. I made several overatures towards begining the Act. And each time she very cleverly got me talking again. Her English is flawless, which was nice, as my Japanese sucks. So anyway, about 1 hour and 45 into the apointment we showered up and went to bed. Again a very very good GFE, LFK, lots of touching, caress etc, She really did make me feel like we were a true couple. She has nice pussy, pretty tight, she does have a landing strip of the typical long, straight Japanese Pubes, which too me is kind of a turn-off, but other than that her body is nice, again I would NOT call her fat or chubby don't let those pics on AM fool you. There was no BJ, and I didn't ask, and an odd thing, when I was ready to mount up. She handed me the condom, and I put it on. Interesting, first time I was ever with a pro that didn't suit the little-Ranger. In any case, the sex was good, Aika has tiny little feet which is a HUGE turn on for me, and she was not shy at all about letting me caress them, and kiss them while I was nailing her. She was also cool with varied postions, although she said that my dick was too big for her be comfortable in doggy (yeah right) but mish, CG, RVGC, all good. It was good sex, felt like I was with a girl Iwas dataing, certainly not rushed or awkward, I think the long talk and cuddle before made us both more comfortable with each other.In Conclusion, Aika, very, very GFE. If you are into this, and don't want just 2 hours of slaming away I would recomend her, highly. I started being a bit irritated by the encounter, but in retrospect it was fine, and the GFE thing probably made the sex better. Once Again AM delivers.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

I stopped by D-Cup in Shimbashi this week. There was only one guy at the desk this time, and he was pretty cool. Basically the girl I was willing to settle for had the day off, but we got to talking. Apparently there are very few girls who work there who are not "pass" -- his expression for girls who "pass" on foreigners, uttered while showing the "X" ([i]batsu[/i]) with his fingers. So I asked him to jot down those girls who are not "pass". The list:1. Chihiro - she has been covered in this forum; I've had her, and she is adequate although unspectacular2. Kaori - from the picture, not my thing; a bit older, a little bit of weight3. Miku - from the picture, not bad; I might be tempted to try her another timeNote the pictures he showed at the front desk show the girls' faces, while the web site and the waiting room have the faces blurred out. Cuteness-wise, I'd rank them Miku, Chihiro, Kaori.There may have been one other girl working today who was also foreigner-OK, but otherwise that seems to be it from among all of the staff there. A bit discouraging, although about par for the course in Tokyo. Hope this helps someone.ES

I know the price is well.. pricey at 50k for 90 minutes, but I have decided that usually the more you pay, the better the service.I haven't found any reviews for this service, and I was wondering if anyone would like to chip in some of their experience before I spend 50k to find out whether this service is a dud or not.Anyway they are called: Foxy [url]http://www.foxy-tokyo.com/girls/[/url]Hope someone replies.

[QUOTE=Yuffei]I know the price is well.. pricey at 50k for 90 minutes, but I have decided that usually the more you pay, the better the service.I haven't found any reviews for this service, and I was wondering if anyone would like to chip in some of their experience before I spend 50k to find out whether this service is a dud or not.Anyway they are called: Foxy [url]http://www.foxy-tokyo.com/girls/[/url]Hope someone replies.[/QUOTE]Well, to me, it looks like a 'tourist trap' The wording and language on the web site looks like 'gaijin rip off' for 500 bucks those chicks better be good! Also note the 'our models do not perform immoral or illegal acts' Also this place as been around for at least 9 years, and not one report on ISG? Odd, very odd. In any case, if you go for it, good luck! And let us know! DH

For the more well read/investigate-before-purchasing members of the board I thought this would be an enlightening link to post:"Japan promised land for S. Korean prostitutes"[url]http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200908130066.html[/url]I would ask that you note in the story the part about the management of these women telling them how much they can make in "the shortest amount of time possible." This has totally been my experience. Tried korean deli twice recently and both times the women shorted me on my time by at least an hour (I'm not a trouble maker, so I just stopped using korean deli rather than complain), they spoke no english OR japanese making communication almost impossible. Both times I paid around 30,000yen for what essentially turned out to be about 30-40 minutes. Just thought you guys should know that opposed to other providers in japan who actually do what they advertise, the korean deli girls are mostly being instructed to short you on your time if at all possible. If the girls looked remotely like their hot-as-hell photos I might call it even, but they usually look nothing like the pics and rank about as low as some broke-down plain jane you would normally be able to pick up off the grimy street in a redlight district. Some may downgrade gaijin-heavy places like asian mystique, but at least those women actually make an attempt to give you all the time you paid for.

[QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07] Tried korean deli twice recently and both times the women shorted me on my time by at least an hour (I'm not a trouble maker, so I just stopped using korean deli rather than complain), they spoke no english OR japanese making communication almost impossible. Both times I paid around 30,000yen for what essentially turned out to be about 30-40 minutes.[/QUOTE]Great post, JoeJoe. That's been my experience as well. I've gone the KDH route more than a few times and the girl always has at least one eye on her watch. If they weren't so great looking and gaijin friendly, I think I could probably kick the habit.

[QUOTE=Yuffei]I know the price is well.. pricey at 50k for 90 minutes, but I have decided that usually the more you pay, the better the service.[/QUOTE]From my experience, it's totally wrong but if you have 50k to spend.

This article is chilling. It doesn't explain the root of the problem, where this crusade really comes from and how the yakaza feel about getting their income sources squeezed.[QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07]For the more well read/investigate-before-purchasing members of the board I thought this would be an enlightening link to post:"Japan promised land for S. Korean prostitutes"[url]http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200908130066.html[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07]I would ask that you note in the story the part about the management of these women telling them how much they can make in "the shortest amount of time possible." This has totally been my experience. Tried korean deli twice recently and both times the women shorted me on my time by at least an hour (I'm not a trouble maker, so I just stopped using korean deli rather than complain), they spoke no english OR japanese making communication almost impossible. Both times I paid around 30,000yen for what essentially turned out to be about 30-40 minutes. Just thought you guys should know that opposed to other providers in japan who actually do what they advertise, the korean deli girls are mostly being instructed to short you on your time if at all possible. If the girls looked remotely like their hot-as-hell photos I might call it even, but they usually look nothing like the pics and rank about as low as some broke-down plain jane you would normally be able to pick up off the grimy street in a redlight district. Some may downgrade gaijin-heavy places like asian mystique, but at least those women actually make an attempt to give you all the time you paid for.[/QUOTE]I've used KDH quite a number of times, and this hasn't been my experience at all. Every girl I have gotten from a KDH spoke Japanese well enough to communicate, they've never shorted me on time, and they've always been accommodating. A few have looked worn out, but most were upbeat and cheery. In fact, I specifically remember one doing a little skip on the way to the shower with me.Some KDH places will even have you talk with them on the phone afterwards (via the girls phone) to make sure you were satisfied. Now, I'm not saying that you're lying, but I do think you're generalizing. If you search around you'll find many KDH places are amazing. The girls aren't maltreated, and all in all it's a wonderful alternative to some of the other places here in Japan.

Zcorps, Of course my opinion is a generalization (as they say, user results may vary), everyone's opinion is a generalization, unless they are conducting a scientific study. But of my korean deli experiences, I picked two of the top ones out there, so I feel I have a great sample. Also, after each session the mama-san was put on the phone to ask me my opinion and I regrettably told the mama-san that everything was OK (mainly because I diligently avoid any trouble or negative vibes/actions when doing p4p). If I was in the USA (my home turf where I know all the angles, laws and possibilities of such situations) and I was being honest with the mama-san I would tell her that I felt cheated, straight up.If you have had good experiences with kdh, then you are fortunate. Personally I would never tell anyone I considered a friend to patronize the kdh services out there. IF you simply want a change from japanese/Chinese, and aren't concerned about getting your time-for-money's worth, then sure it can be ok. But none of the kdh girls rocked my world 'that' much to get me to ignore the money-for-time issue.Caveat: Perhaps my standards come from the fact that I've had some GREAT experiences in japan with p4p with genki girls who gave me all my time (in fact, sometimes "I" was the one who wanted to cut it short simply to get some rest).So far my ratings (yes, Generalizations! ) go as follows:. Chinese p4p: almost always a rip off. If not a rip-off, usually a worn out hag. I imagine the Chinese p4p girls in shanghai are MUCH better.-Korean p4p: pretty cute girls, usually will get your rocks off, but service is expensive compared to other options in japan. Never had an 'amazing' experience with them.-Thai p4p: haven't tried it in japan. Figure if I'm gonna go that route might as well spend an extra 200bucks and just sample the real Bangkok action nearby.-Filipino p4p: haven't found any but would love to try it. If anyone has any recommendations please post.-Gaijin (Russian, eastern european, etc.) p4p: Umm, just don't do it. Better off using the same cash to book a ticket back to the USA Or europe and dealing with local talent.-Japanese p4p: great-to-good-to-bad all over, but my usual experience has been that good service was always their chief concern, in which case I can forgive many things. So when it's great, it's REALLY great. And when it's bad, it's basically a passable experience and not expensive, so I call it even.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Yuffei]Hold on a tick. Did you say she gave you a-levels? How'd you get that? I asked and she wasn't up for it at all. Mind you I suppose you had the overnight package? So. Maybe that gets you extra? Hmmm.[/QUOTE]I mean it was not even close - I got less not more, no bbj, cbj. But I guess i got lots of it. We spoke about Dancer in the Dark (the movie) actually quite brainy girl - artsy type but not artificially so. But less shy about the boundaries than the first time even for overnight.