Berlin

So I did it. Took advantage of a solo trip to Berlin for a conference and headed to Kamilla Dee for my first ever paid sex. Still feels like something that happened in a parallel universe.

Fair warning: people who just want to hear a report about the girl I slept with might want to skip ahead a few paragraphs. Some soul searching and first timer nerve related comedy comes first.

Some reflections for other first timers considering it. Who might, like me, have been very nervous and unsure about going ahead. KD is probably a perfect place to do it. Complete discretion. Very sympathetic staff and girls. It actually took me two attempts to go through with it.

On the first visit there just genuinely wasn't a girl in the lineup of four who really appealed to me so, having chosen one in a panic, I confessed to her that I wasn't feeling sure about going ahead, that it was my first time paying and I wasn't sure about doing so. Honestly she was incredibly sensitive and understanding about it, put no pressure on me at all. Left me to think about it, but made clear she was there if I wanted her. Then the house madam came in speaking no english and basically got annoyed with me hogging her waiting room (quite understandably, she's got a business to run) so I cleared off before I could pluck up the courage.

Afterwards I felt a range of emotions, initially mostly relief at being out of the high pressure situation. Relief that I hadn't done something that people in my 'real life' would be hurt by. But then the urge crept back in, and I realised that actually the decision had nothing to do with my life back home, and everything to do with just not wanting to do it with those particular girls on that night. I'd psyched myself up so much that walking out without choosing anyone would have been too hard. So I'd chosen someone, and then realised I didn't want them. Like I said the girl in question was unbelievably understanding about it. So much so that I felt totally confident going back there a few days later to try again.

This time I decide to approach it with a bit more confidence. I would look at the lineup, and if no one appealed I would say no thank you and head over to Royal nearby and see what I found there. If I did choose someone, there would be no soul searching. I would just follow her upstairs without delay and see what happened.

So I went back mid afternoon (1 pm) rather that late evening like the first time (8.30 ish) and there were six or seven girls rather than four. This time I could have probably chosen any of them. They were mostly young (I'm mid thirties so 'young' to me means 29 or under), blonde, curvy. Some with tattoos, some not. Everyone was attractive to me, which made the choice harder.

The problem this time was that I decided to go with the last one who came in. But I couldn't remember her name. So I said to the house lady that I wanted the last girl who came in, sorry but I couldn't remember her name. "Nico?" she said. "Yeah, maybe," I said.

Long story short, Nico came in and she wasn't the girl I'd actually picked out. But of course, still nervous, when she said "Me?" I just said yes and smiled. Too polite and flustered to say 'no, not you, sorry'. Some idiot eh? 160 euro on a girl I hadn't even chosen. But I was in this zone of 'I am just going to do this to see if I can', so I went with it.

Paid all the money over for an hour and upstairs we went. Ultimately I'm happy I did.

Actual report starts here.

Fortunately Nico is very attractive. Tallish (maybe 170 cm) long darkish blonde hair, long tanned legs, maybe be cup breasts. Guessing 27 years old or so. Walking upstairs behind her I didn't feel too sorry for not getting the exact girl I'd wanted. The anticipation started to build.

Nico's body naked is wonderful. Tanned all over, beautiful smooth skin. She let me take her black dress off for her and started with a massage for me, then took her bra and underwear off and a massage for her. This gave me a chance to really enjoy feeling her arse. I am an incredible fan of women's arses. Absolute favorite part for me. Hers is perfect.

Massage became foreplay, and her pussy (shaven) responded really well to my fingers, getting nicely wet, and she seemed to like that I was gently biting her nipples as I did so. Okay, maybe she was closing her eyes and thinking of Brad Pitt. But you can't fake a wet pussy, and it felt amazing. I didn't go down on her, but I had a sense like that would maybe have been okay. I didn't want to stop at any point and be told 'that's extra', would've killed the mood. I didn't want it enough to pay for it, but would have done it just because at that point she seemed to be genuinely enjoying it. First timer uncertainty!

Her blowjob technique is pretty good. On the fast side. I'm not a massive fan of blowjobs to be honest, and I wonder if she could tell because the first attempt was a minute or two at most before she climbed on top of me and we started to fuck. Physically she knows exactly what she's doing. We did lots of different positions, doggy was particularly enjoyable. Always been a favorite of mine. The only thing she said no to was standing up in front of the mirror being fucked from behind.

She is honestly so beautiful that I really wanted to just fill my memory banks with visual and physical memories. I certainly got that. So overall I'm pretty happy with my first experience of a sex worker.

There were a few things I didn't like about Nico, however.

Firstly she doesn't kiss. This is something I should have asked about before I paid, I suspected it would be important to me, and it turns out it was. It just feels like quite a big barrier to be having sex with someone and not being able to go in and kiss deeply now and then.

Secondly, the porn star noises. Oh my god, this. I'll be honest. Kind of spoiled it for me. No matter what we were doing she was regularly going 'oh yeah' in a, frankly, quite unconvincing way. Same tone and cadence every time. I am under no illusions about how attractive I am, and whilst I'm confident I can please a woman sexually, I could just tell that she was faking it. Maybe thinking about her laundry or something. I honestly wanted to ask her to stop doing it, but it would have felt a bit unkind. And there was already a bit of a disconnect between us because of the no kissing, and point 3, so I didn't want to make this worse.

(Also. In the room there was this terrible lite jazzy dance funk music crap playing. Like some 90's chill out compilation. Doesn't help!

Thirdly, her English isn't particularly good. She can talk about anything to do with the business, but some subtleties of language were lost on her. I made one or two sort of jokey comments, and she didn't seem to realise what I was getting at. So very quickly we stopped talking to each other, other than for me to ask her to change positions. This didn't help point 2.

She is friendly, and pleasant. She clearly wants to make her clients happy. But she seems to have no interest in trying to 'click' on a personal level. This is something born out by reports I've read on German sites. So I don't think it's just to do with the English thing. I think she's probably just a particular kind of sex worker who pleases with her body and with that alone. There's certainly plenty to be pleased about! Perhaps she just wants to keep personality stuff to herself? That's fair enough, and I don't doubt lots of her clients are perfectly happy with her.

She is, I will say again, exceptionally beautiful and her pussy felt wonderful.

So I would recommend Nico if you're looking for a beautiful young woman who has great technique, who will please you quickly, with a porn star type experience.

I would not recommend Nico if, like me, you're looking for something more like a girlfriend experience with a bit more of a personal connection / good communication.

I learned a lot from this first experience. I would take the opportunity to go to KD again. I would be clearer up front what I want (in fairness I tried to be. Asking the house lady about GFE and English skills but she wasn't terribly helpful on that), and not get rushed into handing over cash until I'm sure the girl is happy to do the things I'm interested in.

I had a good time with Nico, and I have a lot of happy memories to keep me going until I can visit Berlin again. I'll go back to KD, but I wouldn't choose Nico next time.

This is her page (no photos) [URL]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/nico-14-e.htm[/URL].

[QUOTE=MarkBrookes;2027918]I learned a lot from this first experience. I would take the opportunity to go to KD again. I would be clearer up front what I want (in fairness I tried to be. Asking the house lady about GFE and English skills but she wasn't terribly helpful on that), and not get rushed into handing over cash until I'm sure the girl is happy to do the things I'm interested in.

I had a good time with Nico, and I have a lot of happy memories to keep me going until I can visit Berlin again. I'll go back to KD, but I wouldn't choose Nico next time.

This is her page (no photos) [URL]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/nico-14-e.htm[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for an interesting report. Bad experiences paying for sex is normal. It's like everything else in life. Sometimes one just gets pissed off at having spent money on some ***** who didn't deliver. Has happened to me on several occasions. You pick a hot woman and then she's just worthless. I've had real nightmares: in China I was in a small city and went to a very poor RLD. I picked a girl but later in the room I didn't like her manners, so I changed my mind and wanted to leave. She went haywire and started holding on to me and pulling my arms while shouting for her friends. Several chicks and guys showed up and I didn't understand a word they were saying. Meanwhile she was still grabbing my arms. She was overreacting because I hadn't even undressed but still wanted me to pay. After a few minutes she calmed down and I was able to leave. Absolutely terrifying experience. The last thing one wants is having trouble with Mafia types. This was of course an extreme example. If you're looking for GFE the best thing is being a regular with some lady who you know well. In the past I visited ladies on a regular basis whom I knew well. It often felt like real relationships. I also recommend you to try some other place since you've already been to KD. I'm not a Berliner myself but know the city has much to offer.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2028380]Thanks for an interesting report. Bad experiences paying for sex is normal. It's like everything else in life. Sometimes one just gets pissed off at having spent money on some ***** who didn't deliver. [/QUOTE]Thanks. Hope the report is useful to someone. Especially fellow noobs.

I just want to say that I hope my account didn't come across like I was calling Nico a '(whatever) who didn't deliver'. I don't want to disrespect her. What she offered wasn't quite right for me, but she was very pleasant and professional (and very attractive! So I think a lot of clients would be extremely happy to spend time with her.

Sounds like your bad experiences are on a whole other level!

Can anyone recommend a girl friendly hotel or an apartment that is convenient to Artemis (by taxi is fine) but also has some good nightlife around? Going to be in town for a short three day visit this summer. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Rog123;2029045]Can anyone recommend a girl friendly hotel or an apartment that is convenient to Artemis (by taxi is fine) but also has some good nightlife around? Going to be in town for a short three day visit this summer. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Hotel Kronprinz, short walk to Artemis and WestKreuz metro. I don't know if it's girl friendly.

[QUOTE=Riina;2029095]Hotel Kronprinz, short walk to Artemis and WestKreuz metro. I don't know if it's girl friendly.[/QUOTE]Thanks girl friendly is not too important since I will be at Artemis but I may have a local freebie I fucked before and don't need the hassle of trying to bring her back to my hotel.

[QUOTE=MarkBrookes;2028675]Thanks. Hope the report is useful to someone. Especially fellow noobs.

I just want to say that I hope my account didn't come across like I was calling Nico a '(whatever) who didn't deliver'. I don't want to disrespect her. What she offered wasn't quite right for me, but she was very pleasant and professional (and very attractive! So I think a lot of clients would be extremely happy to spend time with her.[/QUOTE]Dear Mark,

I didn't mean to seem disrespectful of Nico. I was talking about bad experiences in general. Of course there is a difference between disappointments and worthless experiences. My bad that I wasn't clear enough!

Sad news from Kamilla Dee: they are forced to close at the end of the month. A quality establishment for many years, will be missed by many.

If this signals a further crackdown on p4 p-business, almost at the same time the new laws go into effect, Berlin may lose its naughty shine.

[URL]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/nutzungsuntersagung.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarkBrookes;2028675]Thanks. Hope the report is useful to someone. Especially fellow noobs.

I just want to say that I hope my account didn't come across like I was calling Nico a '(whatever) who didn't deliver'. I don't want to disrespect her. What she offered wasn't quite right for me, but she was very pleasant and professional (and very attractive! So I think a lot of clients would be extremely happy to spend time with her.

Sounds like your bad experiences are on a whole other level![/QUOTE]I had a very disappointing experience with Nico last May. She would not survive in a well reviewed scene without tourists.

[QUOTE=Ravein2;2030194]Sad news from Kamilla Dee: they are forced to close at the end of the month. A quality establishment for many years, will be missed by many.

If this signals a further crackdown on p4 p-business, almost at the same time the new laws go into effect, Berlin may lose its naughty shine.

[URL]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/nutzungsuntersagung.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]WTF. How can they be forced? Are they breaking any law? The place was a bit overpriced but I liked the atmosphere there.

Bad news indeed. By mid-June I'll be in Berlin. I just hope my vacation won't be ruined.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2030243]WTF. How can they be forced? Are they breaking any law? The place was a bit overpriced but I liked the atmosphere there.

Bad news indeed. By mid-June I'll be in Berlin. I just hope my vacation won't be ruined.[/QUOTE]These places are famous for their owo overall naughtiness, the new rules bans OWO, but I wonder how could you know whether a punter had the umbrella on or not while getting a BJ.

I'm curious to know which hotels are female friendly.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2030243]WTF. How can they be forced? Are they breaking any law? The place was a bit overpriced but I liked the atmosphere there.

Bad news indeed. By mid-June I'll be in Berlin. I just hope my vacation won't be ruined.[/QUOTE]They are closing down because of land use regulations according to translation. They might open a new location.

[QUOTE=Mobeen;2030427]These places are famous for their owo overall naughtiness, the new rules bans OWO, but I wonder how could you know whether a punter had the umbrella on or not while getting a BJ.[/QUOTE]I suppose that you've never been in KD and probably rarely followed Berlin's posts: using condom was the standard at KD.

The first time I was in Berlin, I chose KD because KD's web site warned clients that condom would be used for all.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;2031860]I suppose that you've never been in KD and probably rarely followed Berlin's posts: using condom was the standard at KD.

The first time I was in Berlin, I chose KD because KD's web site warned clients that condom would be used for all.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I've been there once and had a good time. The girl however was very strict about use of condom, just as much as I am.

Makes me sad, I had the best sex in Berlin in that place.

[QUOTE=Ravein2;2030194]Sad news from Kamilla Dee: they are forced to close at the end of the month. A quality establishment for many years, will be missed by many.

If this signals a further crackdown on p4 p-business, almost at the same time the new laws go into effect, Berlin may lose its naughty shine.

[URL]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/nutzungsuntersagung.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]