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Hi,Does anyone know this korean place:[url]http://www.d-suiren.com/[/url]They get a lot of good reviews on [url]http://www.kan-deli.net/index.html[/url]Are they okay with non japanese customers?

Hi guys,Will be in Tokyo from 24th. 27th of Jan. Staying at the ANA in Akasaka.Are there any good places to pick up P4P Filipina girls in Roppongi.Rbaajl

I followed the instructions below and was pleasantly surprised with the results. The town itself is small and a bit decrepit, but in an appealing way (many things are original from the 60's, so they're shabby but cool). It's true that the Route Inn is conveniently located and cheap. The cheap rooms don't seem to be available through their web site, only through Jalan. I too had no trouble with the camera in the Annex (although the room was really really small).I saw a writeup saying there are 200 snacks. I didn't believe that until I got there, but I think it's true. There are probably 3-5 girls per place, and the system is that you stick your head in the door and ask to 'see faces', at which point all the girls will jump up and run over to say Hi. I think everyone, except possibly the owners, is Korean. The language spoken between workers on the street is frequently Korean, and all the girls (and mamas) I saw were Korean.I stuck my head into a few places before finding one with OK options; it's a little hard to browse in a leisurely way since they're pretty desperate for business and want you to come in, choose a girl, and start paying asap. But I found something workable, had a few drinks, and worked it. Specifically negotiated that two pops was OK; told that this was a special service only for my first time. In the end, the first time lasted long enough that the girl insisted a second was impossible, and I couldn't have anyway. Yes, Y25k+about Y5k bar fees. Oh, and the all-you-can-drink is for 2 hours, not the 60-90 mins quoted on the signs (again, maybe because it was cold and quiet in February!), but that's for that 'Triangle' shochu which I think is $5 a bottle in stores, not beer or anything else. Still not expensive.Be aware that there may be trouble taking a girl back with you; mine insisted on going to the neighboring love hotel and had to go back and 'check with mama' to get approval to walk the extra block to my hotel.Some good restaurants too. Look for the two on the main street (behind the fancy sign) with sake bottles and old-looking fronts.[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]Kamiyamada OnsenRevisiting the topic for the benefit of Tokyo denizens, I visited Kamiyamada Onsen (Togura Station, a 16-minute ride on the Shinano Line about four stops from Ueda Station after coming on the Shinkansen from Tokyo), to check out the scene. I found it comparable money-wise.. And even better in terms of quality and variety of providers on offer that you can check out in person (instead of a photoshopped website or photos you might be shown before entering a shop) as well as in terms of the monetary outlay and duration of p4p. Without giving away too many of my secrets, I am sure the majime/persevering types in Japan can easily fill in the blanks to secure any needed info.Do the math: Despite some posters still-glowing reports about AM and its offshoot girls-gone-independent, and similar agencies at which you may or may not get FS (and if you do, you often have to pay extra).. You have to admit they reflect varying at best, and disappointing at worst, experiences (*at the very least, * 35, 000 yen plus hotel); the variable or high rejection rates at other, desirable service providers (or at least the ones you know you'd like to try but feel you never would be allowed to as a gaijin); down to the generally positive KDH to be had for slightly less money; and the even less expensive Chinese esthes.Set all that aside. I submit to you the following: 5, 000-6, 000 yen from a discount ticket shop for a reserved seat each way on the Shinkansen from Tokyo or Omiya to Ueda (60-75 minute ride), plus 330 yen each way from Ueda to Togura on the local train (15-16 more minutes). Advance Internet reservations can secure a 5, 000 per night room including breakfast at a clean, large national business hotel chain located **RIGHT ON THE CUSP** (er, it starts right on the next block) of the Kamiyamada Onsen "entertainment district. " Cursory 3, 000 fee to enter one of at least a couple hundred drinking establishments for 60-90 minutes nomihodai, plus 1, 000-2, 000 per drink that you should be a polite, non-pennypinching guy to buy for the lady who interests you (and her bar Mama, if necessary).. At this time you get lubricated (alcoholically, if you like, or stick to soft drinks if you must, though the la). You can either keep drinking, or get down to p4p business. Fees for recreational activities that follow.. As well as the general description and characterizatiion of the district and the ladies therein.. Are correct, as were given by the Jitsuwa Knuckles article posted earlier in relation to this topic.Further tips: Stay at that hotel mentioned above, particularly its annex building, which has the cheaper room rates and is separate from the main building where the front desk is located. Despite a security camera at its entrance and an advisory in the hotel info packet in the room's desk drawer requesting guests to meet any visitors in the lobby, no issues were encountered for a single-room traveler wishing to bring a visitor to the room. If you stay at one of the town's numerous ryokan, or, and here I am guesssing, maybe even other business hotels, you likely won't be able to bring back visitors, who in their quest for business won't even try to go to a ryokan and will likely try to steer you instead to the district's only LH within walking distance (not sure about any others within driving distance), which a cursory stroll revealed to be a bit run-down (sort of like a small motel of the Motel 6 variety and also costing 4, 500-5, 000 yen for a stay) and completely unlike the spacious, clean, modern and spoilt-for-choice LHs we have in Tokyo). Saturday night seemed to be more lively.. Snacks open from about 8 pm Until 2 am.. While Sunday some shut down at midnight. Don't know about other days of the week. Good food there in the district (and especially elsewhere in town from regular restaurants earlier in the day and evening). Overall, rather fetching options to be had.[/quote]

[quote=puta playa] the j-mongers really tear them up, as i hear these guys' balls slapping on asses at high speed. i assume it wasn't isg gaijin, as isg gaijin would typically slowly savor the idea of any fs in tokyo at this price, except in those rare occasions like you mentioned here.[/quote]if you have time in your busy schedule to watch some japanese av ;0 you will see that most of the guys finish by going to incredible speed fucking with the girls breasts flying in all directions and then pull out to gansha (cum on face)this is also the same copied technique you will see applied to your gf when you go to a happening bar. lol, gotta love japannampa guy

[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Hi,Does anyone know this korean place:[url]http://www.d-suiren.com/[/url]They get a lot of good reviews on [url]http://www.kan-deli.net/index.html[/url]Are they okay with non japanese customers?[/QUOTE]I'd like to know this too.

[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Hi,Does anyone know this korean place:[url]http://www.d-suiren.com/[/url]They get a lot of good reviews on [url]http://www.kan-deli.net/index.html[/url]Are they okay with non japanese customers?[/QUOTE]I would like to know this as well.

[QUOTE=Rbaajl]Hi guys,Will be in Tokyo from 24th. 27th of Jan. Staying at the ANA in Akasaka.Are there any good places to pick up P4P Filipina girls in Roppongi.Rbaajl[/QUOTE]Why waste time looking for Filipinas in Tokyo? There is so much local talent to try, you might enjoy a change of menu.

[QUOTE=Pshred]I would like to know this as well.[/QUOTE]Called them today. They accept only Gaijins from other asian countries, not americans or europeans.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Well, FL, let me first say that I am honored that my post prompted you to make your first. Welcome to the party. It's a great community of (usually) friendly and always helpful people.[/quote]I've been reading here for a while and I definitely see a strong sense of community on this forum. Especially in how to behave in Japan so the rest of the forum members don't suffer in Japan due to others reinforcing xenophobia.[quote]Secondly, I don't know how sharp it was but it felt weird and I wasn't sure at first what was going on, which is why I said that she snuck it in. It felt sharp. I supposed a well trained domina knows that this is a way to make a play submissive an actual submissive, because she didn't waste anytime in thinking of it or getting it in. Before the session I saw something on the table that looked like a big eye hook, and I figured that it something from her kit for suspension rope bondage from the ceiling, since she has rope skills. I was bound and gagged nose down in one of her high heels (which by the way are branded "Devious", appropriate). She got behind me and I never saw the hook, but knew immediately what it was when she put a rope through it. and tugged.[/quote]I ask because it reminded me of the man from Enumclaw that was having consensual sex with a horse and the man died from a perforated colon. That story made me realize just how easy it is to die from a rectal injury of somesort.[quote]Thirdly, please join ISG as a paying member and then I can tell you the name and contact info, then you can find out up close and personal what it is like to be part of a scene from a Japanese domina's version of 'Hostel'. This is a great forum, I've been able to experience things that most guys only dream of as a result of info provided here...(well, and by having a job with international travel and decent expense account..hard work doing all this sex) Anyway, please join and support Jackson in keeping the servers running. It's the gift that keeps on giving, :)[/QUOTE]I'm not actually "into" SM. I find the ideas behind it fascinating, but have no wish to participate.

I called another korean place in Uguisudani. Shop name is "Pure".[url]http://www.k-pure.com/[/url]They asked me how tall I am and when I said 180 cm they said okay.But you must speak at least some japanese!I want to try them out this friday. But did anyone of you guys ever tried them?

[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Called them today. They accept only Gaijins from other asian countries, not americans or europeans.[/QUOTE]Hi Ronin,Thanks for calling d-suiren. I happen to be from an asian country, do I have to speak japanese with them though?Thanks

I just called another korean place in Uguisudani.Shop name is: Kan-deli (Yu-zin). Gaijin totally ok. But again you must speak at least basic japanese!![url]http://www.yu-zin.com/top.html[/url]Making a reservation with Mama-san was very easy and after I read some reviews on kan-deli net I am looking forward for my first korean bang!Mama-san had a very friendly attitude and she even said which girls are chubby and which are not. She asked what kind I preferred and so on.

Glad you had success. FYI, the Route Inn Web site can be accessed and reservations made in a few languages, including English:[url]http://www.route-inn.co.jp/english/index.html[/url]Then in this case, click on Nagano Pref.:[url]http://www.route-inn.co.jp/english/pref/nagano.html[/url]Then the icon for Kamiyamada:[url]http://www.route-inn.co.jp/english/pref/nagano.html#kamiyamada[/url]Then for the Kamiyamada location's reservations:[url]http://www.route-inn.co.jp/english/pref/reserve_frame_en.php?hotel_id=6[/url]from where I see the cheap annex-category single room rates of 4900 yen available daily.As for the town being all Koreans, that's at odds from my experience already documented and which included witnessing of a number of nationalities, including Thai, Mongolian and others. What night(s) did you go? I speak from a Saturday-Sunday two-night exposure to the town. And all such negotiating regarding hotel location took place in the snack itself, with clear understanding among all parties on all points, financial and destination location, before leaving with the girl. I had no issue with regards the number of "permissible pops" either, but from walking around and scoping the place out before making my final choice on which establishment to enter and girl to go with, I could tell that some club mamas, while generally operating within the prevailing system of the town's leisure establishments, like anywhere else that I've seen like in Tokyo, needed to be watched closely and disregarded if conditions and their vibe didn't seem amenable to me.All that said, nice to hear you had a good time. Anyone else check Kamiyamada Onsen area out?[QUOTE=Jackazzzz]I followed the instructions below and was pleasantly surprised with the results. The town itself is small and a bit decrepit, but in an appealing way (many things are original from the 60's, so they're shabby but cool). It's true that the Route Inn is conveniently located and cheap. The cheap rooms don't seem to be available through their web site, only through Jalan. I too had no trouble with the camera in the Annex (although the room was really really small).I saw a writeup saying there are 200 snacks. I didn't believe that until I got there, but I think it's true. There are probably 3-5 girls per place, and the system is that you stick your head in the door and ask to 'see faces', at which point all the girls will jump up and run over to say Hi. I think everyone, except possibly the owners, is Korean. The language spoken between workers on the street is frequently Korean, and all the girls (and mamas) I saw were Korean.I stuck my head into a few places before finding one with OK options; it's a little hard to browse in a leisurely way since they're pretty desperate for business and want you to come in, choose a girl, and start paying asap. But I found something workable, had a few drinks, and worked it. Specifically negotiated that two pops was OK; told that this was a special service only for my first time. In the end, the first time lasted long enough that the girl insisted a second was impossible, and I couldn't have anyway. Yes, Y25k+about Y5k bar fees. Oh, and the all-you-can-drink is for 2 hours, not the 60-90 mins quoted on the signs (again, maybe because it was cold and quiet in February!), but that's for that 'Triangle' shochu which I think is $5 a bottle in stores, not beer or anything else. Still not expensive.Be aware that there may be trouble taking a girl back with you; mine insisted on going to the neighboring love hotel and had to go back and 'check with mama' to get approval to walk the extra block to my hotel.Some good restaurants too. Look for the two on the main street (behind the fancy sign) with sake bottles and old-looking fronts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Called them today. They accept only Gaijins from other asian countries, not americans or europeans.[/QUOTE]For the money you would pay in Roppongi for a filipina, you might as well save it and fly to Manila for the real deal.

[QUOTE=Fried Luke]I've been reading here for a while and I definitely see a strong sense of community on this forum. Especially in how to behave in Japan so the rest of the forum members don't suffer in Japan due to others reinforcing xenophobia.I ask because it reminded me of the man from Enumclaw that was having consensual sex with a horse and the man died from a perforated colon. That story made me realize just how easy it is to die from a rectal injury of somesort.I'm not actually "into" SM. I find the ideas behind it fascinating, but have no wish to participate.[/QUOTE]Yes, Japan ISG thread is special community because Japan is a very special place to monger. We foreigners are accepted here to some extent, but usually not. Whenever in town, I try to mind my manners and present gaijin in a positive light. Other gaijin on ISG live here in Tokyo and depend on the local market for all of their mongering, so we need to respect those people and do everything we can to preserve and expand the few gaijin friendly mongering spots that Tokyo has.Well, I didn't get pegged by a horse, just a pretty Japanese girl. But to be quite honest, I was so helpless at the time she could have done absolutely anything that she wanted. Thank god she didn't bring her uma.Maybe someday you are into SM, maybe not. Whatever makes you happy. In Tokyo, I feel like fetish is one of the specialities of the town. Like GFE in Rio, or gangbang in the Partytreffs in Germany. So in Tokyo I partake of the local speciality to the extent that my budget affords it. (not often).