Montreal

[QUOTE=Zeyto;2360024]Hi gents,

I figured this is the best place to inquire about Nora since she is from Montreal, but she will be coming to NYC at the beginning of October and I just wanted to ask the gents that saw her what her sessions will be like? She says she is PSE but is that just Greek? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've posted about Nora several times both on this board. Do a search and also you can follow her on twitter under Nora Bordeleau.

She is a wild one so don't be shy about asking her about her PSE services. She has meat on her hips and ass, so don't expect a skinny spinner. Pretty face and eyes.

Nora loves sex and is into kinky stuff too. For Chubzy. DFK, BBBJ and CIM if the chemistry is there.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2358328]They are escorts. One of the main perks of the job, beside the money, is they have the pussy so they set the schedule. It is the same everywhere. Expecting a hooker to keep an appointment 48 hours in advance is a 50/50 bet at best.[/QUOTE]Agree, sometimes an agency botches up a pre booking due to poor notes and booker shift changes. But sometimes I have had success prebooking 5 days ahead no prob.

Sometimes it works out, sure. And if you are a repeat or local client your odds are better. I never set something ahead of time without a plan be or at least a comme si comme ca attitude.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2360185]Agree, sometimes an agency botches up a pre booking due to poor notes and booker shift changes. But sometimes I have had success prebooking 5 days ahead no prob.[/QUOTE].

Guys,

I went to see a past favorite last weekend. Hadn't really followed her on her social and when she opened the door I was in shock. Horrified may be more appropriate.

I can't believe how many girls are going way too far down the surgery road and becoming outright grotesque. She was damn gorgeous but now. I gasped, turned around and said bye bye while walking away.

Are you guys attracted by that?

WTFF?

[QUOTE=TapTap;2360549]Guys,

I went to see a past favorite last weekend. Hadn't really followed her on her social and when she opened the door I was in shock. Horrified may be more appropriate.

I can't believe how many girls are going way too far down the surgery road and becoming outright grotesque. She was damn gorgeous but now. I gasped, turned around and said bye bye while walking away.

Are you guys attracted by that?

WTFF?[/QUOTE]I know you can't give any names. But would this be a girl who recently got "enhancements" that works for a well known agency?

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2360632]I know you can't give any names. But would this be a girl who recently got "enhancements" that works for a well known agency?[/QUOTE]No. Indy for as long as I can remember. She's moves around a bit and does advertise quite a bit on the review sites and on pretty much all the popular ad sites In the HDH price range.

Don't get me wrong, he body is ridiculous. And I'm sure some still find her face pretty, but the work she keeps doing on her face has completely changed her. This girl was gorgeous by all standards, and now, I honestly find she's starting to look like a man, its just way too much.

Hint: she's been recently advertising hardcore content on her twitter to promote her onlyfans channel.

[QUOTE=TapTap;2360549].

I can't believe how many girls are going way too far down the surgery road and becoming outright grotesque. She was damn gorgeous but now. I gasped, turned around and said bye bye while walking away.

Are you guys attracted by that?

WTFF?[/QUOTE]This is been going on a long time. Sometimes enhancements are nice. I want to see Bianka's (looks like she's not working again?) I also like when the older ladies get tits or if the girls that are flat as a board get a little shape. They always run the risk of capsular contracture or scar tissue forming around the implant that makes them feel like a super ball.

What I hate. Absolutely hate! Is when a girl like the vaunted Jennifer starts telling me that she's going to get enhancements. She had (has?) perfect perky B / Cs. Why? I mean they were perfect.

What we have to accept is that many of these girls are just not comfortable with themselves. Maybe it's confidence they lack? I always praise them and they seem to really like it but sometimes I wonder just why should my praise matter so much to them? Maybe they have to mutilate their bodies to achieve this ideal, iconic perfect body that the marketers shove down their throats? Maybe they do it to impress other girls? Like competition?

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2360632]I know you can't give any names. But would this be a girl who recently got "enhancements" that works for a well known agency?[/QUOTE]If its who I think it is then you guys are absolutely right. She was very pretty and very popular up to a couple of months ago.

The augmentation of her breasts was not that bad but certainly not necessary. The worst part is what she did her to her face. Grotesque is not too strong of a word.

Some of these girls must be making way too much if they can splurge 10 m to cap their teeth to the point of being too perfect, or 50 m to butcher their face.

She almost made the cover of a magazine cover with her previous face.

[QUOTE=TapTap;2360643]No. Indy for as long as I can remember. She's moves around a bit and does advertise quite a bit on the review sites and on pretty much all the popular ad sites In the HDH price range.

Don't get me wrong, he body is ridiculous. And I'm sure some still find her face pretty, but the work she keeps doing on her face has completely changed her. This girl was gorgeous by all standards, and now, I honestly find she's starting to look like a man, its just way too much.

Hint: she's been recently advertising hardcore content on her twitter to promote her onlyfans channel.[/QUOTE]In her early years she started off at Eleganza and used to be compared to Megan Fox until all that face sculpting and ink took the shine off. Correct?

Two unquestionable stars of the Montreal scene recently went under the knife for breast enhancements. I have not met Scarlett (XO) or Katrina (Indy), but their natural bodies looked amazing to me. I'm not sure what their motivation was. Both seemed very popular and booked up before the surgery. I know Scarlett is a cam girl and perhaps that attracts a whole new clientele.

Not too long ago, an agency girl posted photos on Twitter with the doctor's markings on her ass for pending butt implants. I personally thought that was an odd Twitter post. Although today's butt implants can be very natural, I think men want to maintain the allusion. I don't think we really want to know.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2360835]In her early years she started off at Eleganza and used to be compared to Megan Fox until all that face sculpting and ink took the shine off. Correct?[/QUOTE]We got a winner.

I actually had to dig, Eleganza was before my time.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2360852]Two unquestionable stars of the Montreal scene recently went under the knife for breast enhancements. I have not met Scarlett (XO) or Katrina (Indy), but their natural bodies looked amazing to me. I'm not sure what their motivation was. Both seemed very popular and booked up before the surgery. I know Scarlett is a cam girl and perhaps that attracts a whole new clientele.[/QUOTE]Depending on your tastes, it is a bit of a shame about Scarlett, as she was almost the definition of a perfect body prior to her lip injections and breast enlargement. She's a very sweet girl, and seems to be a genuinely good-hearted person. However, if you follow her social media presence. She's also enormously insecure. It's unfortunate. She doesn't have to be. Alas.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2360902]However, if you follow her social media presence. She's also enormously insecure. It's unfortunate. She doesn't have to be. Alas.[/QUOTE]It's a tough business. Your livelihood almost totally depends on your looks and your youth. I'm sure that weighs on you.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2360902]Depending on your tastes, it is a bit of a shame about Scarlett, as she was almost the definition of a perfect body prior to her lip injections and breast enlargement. She's a very sweet girl, and seems to be a genuinely good-hearted person. However, if you follow her social media presence. She's also enormously insecure. It's unfortunate. She doesn't have to be. Alas.[/QUOTE]Did she also get jaw implants or something? I hope those Instagram pictures are photoshopped.

I saw Katrinagirl shortly after she returned from her surgery. Her frame could certainly support the larger breasts, but I agree she looked perfectly fine before and didn't need the augmentation. She told me that she did the augmentation for herself, that she thought she looked better with bigger breasts. Bookings were good before and continue to be so. And her regular clients were happy with the results.

Anyone see these chics?

Do they have massage experience?

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2360986]Did she also get jaw implants or something? I hope those Instagram pictures are photoshopped.[/QUOTE]I suspect her photos are somewhat photoshopped.

Are jaw implants a thing, LOL?

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2361016]Anyone see these chics?

Do they have massage experience?[/QUOTE]I have not had time to see Carolina yet but from everything I've heard and seen you can't go wrong with her. Unfortunately I don't know about her massage skills.

Eva on the other hand has massage skills as well as any other skills you are looking for when it comes to sex. She loves sex and BDSM role play.

Her body is as you see on the Vog web site and her face is pretty GND with lovely eyes. I saw her twice but not since she is back.

The only woman I'm seeing regularly for the past few months, and who used to be an MP, is Alyssa Minx indie.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2360913]It's a tough business. Your livelihood almost totally depends on your looks and your youth. I'm sure that weighs on you.[/QUOTE]Yes correct it does weighs on them. Plus the fact that yes many of them come from background that made them quite insecure.

But we are to blame also. If you read the reviews here and on Merb you will see many very harsh comments about their look (face and body). Very often much more then their service. Must be hard for some young beautiful girl to read she's a 6. It hurts them without even knowing who the hell gave them a 6. And frankly even if it's true that she's a 6 she very well could be 9 for me! But they do not grasp that. It's a tough biz for sure.

Now when I say we are to blame I do totally exclude myself. All my preferred girl over the last few years (lillyb, Jenny, Sabrina just to name a few) were definitely not the most wonderful in terms of look. They all could have breast implant and / or other fix to their body. But they did not and did not care at all. They were absolute amazing stars in terms of attitude and sex delivery. And those are the one I dig!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2361344]Yes correct it does weighs on them. Plus the fact that yes many of them come from background that made them quite insecure.

But we are to blame also. If you read the reviews here and on Merb you will see many very harsh comments about their look (face and body). Very often much more then their service. Must be hard for some young beautiful girl to read she's a 6. It hurts them without even knowing who the hell gave them a 6. And frankly even if it's true that she's a 6 she very well could be 9 for me! But they do not grasp that. It's a tough biz for sure.
[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. I am shaking my head about the the naysayers for a girl I saw recently. I just can't believe it? Did she answer the door shitfaced high or something? As good as I've ever had! And some guys say below GND?

But you know what? It comes with the territory. It's like being a model.

Some girls will not read the forums. That's a good thing?

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2360986]Did she also get jaw implants or something? I hope those Instagram pictures are photoshopped.[/QUOTE]So I am not the only one that noticed it. Her jaw seem much more square. I am fine with the breast implants but I don't like what she done to her face.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2361344]Yes correct it does weighs on them. Plus the fact that yes many of them come from background that made them quite insecure.

But we are to blame also. If you read the reviews here and on Merb you will see many very harsh comments about their look (face and body). Very often much more then their service. Must be hard for some young beautiful girl to read she's a 6. It hurts them without even knowing who the hell gave them a 6. And frankly even if it's true that she's a 6 she very well could be 9 for me! But they do not grasp that. It's a tough biz for sure.[/QUOTE]LOL harsh comments about looks on the green board. Pretty sure those get cleansed pretty quickly or people come to their defense, 1 negative review generates 3-4 following positive ones. You assume we're to blame have you considered maybe its the folks who generously hand out 8/9's or glowing reviews on the green board are the culprit? Maybe reality just sucks when those guys are telling them they are 8/9's and kissing their feet when they are just 6/7 to most guys. There is one girl who has changed agencies multiple times in the past few years her threads are usually a mix of good and bad and she has a new and agency yet again. I'm looking at her thread and see all glowing reviews how she's GFE, not a clockwatcher and a shocking 8. 5 in looks and service except for a few negative reviews. I don't think shed be changing names / agencies if what they say are true about her. I've seen her and know its pretty much BS, the one negative written about her I know is true about how she doesn't let you go deep. I'm average size and she wouldn't let me go more than 1-2 in in some excuse about how it hurts. I have no clue how someone like that gets glowing reviews and she's a 6 at best for me. Maybe "we" should stop inflating their egos so they don't hit the ground as hard when they fall.

Hello gents,

Just got back and overall great trip, had a better time than last year, already going through withdrawal. Saw 9 lovely ladies in 6 days. Just for context of the reviews, I like spinners / thin types natural boobs not taller than 5'7.

Priscilla XO- Face 7, Body 7 (bigger ass than I like) service 10, attitude 10. Would def repeat.

Anastasia XO. Face 5, Body 8, Service 10, Attitude 10. CIM and Anal on the menu for extra. Would def repeat, best pse experience of the trip.

Erika Euphoria. Face 7, Body 8, Service and Attitude 10. CIM on the menu for extra.

Katrina. Independent - 9 all around. She walked in and my jaw dropped. Model material. Would def repeat. Best all around (looks / body + service) session of the trip.

Paige. Velvet - looks 6 , body 6, service (BJ -8.5, ride -5) attitude -9. Saw a lot of positive reviews about her. Wasn't feeling it with her tho.

Claudia Vog. Face 7, body 7.5, BBBJ - 9.5 (pse style, deep throat CIM and then some!) wow! Ride - 7. She didn't smell as fresh down there had her stop after 5 min* BBBJCIM she did not ask for extra. But I gave her a big tip.

Heidi xo. Looks 9, body 9 (big fake DS) on rail thin body. Service 8. 5 attitude 10. Sweetest girl of the trip. Wanted to just stay with her all day.

Jade velvet. Face 6.5 body 6.5 service 8 attitude 8. Wasn't feeling it with her.

Eiley Euphoria Face 8, body 8, service 7 attitude 7. She has a big ass triangle tattoo on her neck now with a eye and tats on both arms now, saw her last year and she still looked "normal" LOL She has a very dry personality. Last year when I saw her, she looked a lot better and service was better IMHO.

* friend saw Lola from XO. He said WOW! Looks 9.5, body 9.5 service 6.5. he's like spinners also.

We were in Mile End section of Montreal. During rush HR, Euphoria had problems doing Outcall be / see of traffic which is understandable.

Had no issues with XO Velvet and Vog.

IF I were using XO and Euphoria where is the optimal place to get a Airbnb to account for rush HR travel for the ladies. Griffentown / old port? Already planning for next year!

Well, until next Aug. I'll be lurking. Thank you nice Gents for all the info and replies.

JB.

Nice condensed review! Love it!

Of the girl I saw:

"Priscilla XO- Face 7, Body 7 (bigger ass than I like) service 10, attitude 10. Would def repeat."

Keep telling people she is a sure thing! I adore her. Her tits are rock solid see like on a 16 year old teenager! (oups that sounded a bit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord910][CodeWord910][/url] but it's just to illustrate the truth! Beside she's 21).

"Heidi xo. Looks 9, body 9 (big fake DS) on rail thin body. Service 8. 5 attitude 10. Sweetest girl of the trip. Wanted to just stay with her all day."

So much agree. Is she ever beautiful? Facially just so damn beautiful. Too bad she has too many restriction for me like no CIM.

"Jade velvet. Face 6.5 body 6. 5 service 8 attitude 8. Wasn't feeling it with her."

To be honest I had one hell of a session with her. Great spinner body. I would rank her a 7. 5 for face and body minimum. Perhaps higher but that's because she rode me like few have. When I saw her she was really upset about her boyfriend and told me she wanted to fuck me hard to compensate. Told her to please herself ha ha.

"IF I were using XO and Euphoria where is the optimal place to get a Airbnb to account for rush HR travel for the ladies. Griffentown / old port? Already planning for next year!

Mile end, plateau mt-royal, rosemont are probably best area to be in Montreal to feel the city's vibe. But true that it can be problematic for outcall agencies. Well except for Velvet which has incall on the Plateau (best incal area if you ask me!

Airbnb in Griffintown, Pointe-st-charles, Verdun (but not to far west) or old port area to the east ideal for these agencies.

Cheers,

Yes Jelly Bean nice reviews. I agree with the Katrina and Heidi reviews for excellence. I think Katrina has it all. Looks, service, and attitude. She blows my away every time I see her. Heidi is probably my all time favorite. So very pretty and sweet and sexy. I too want to spend all day with her and I want to take her home with me!

LOL Jalimon2 for your comments on Jade. I saw her last year and she was complaining about her boyfriend then. This might be a thing with her. Ha. Only I didn't get what you got. I got a response of - "I can't really continue the session because I am so upset and feel guilty. " So the last half hour I listened to her complaints about her relationship with her boyfriend. She then said she was going to cancel all her appointments for the rest of the night because she needed to talk with him. I guess it is best to get her on a night when she's feeling anger against her boyfriend rather than guilty.

[QUOTE=JellyBelly;2362037]Hello gents,

Just got back and overall great trip, had a better time than last year, already going through withdrawal. Saw 9 lovely ladies in 6 days. Just for context of the reviews, I like spinners / thin types natural boobs not taller than 5'7.

Priscilla XO- Face 7, Body 7 (bigger ass than I like) service 10, attitude 10. Would def repeat.

Anastasia XO. Face 5, Body 8, Service 10, Attitude 10

Erika Euphoria. Face 7, Body 8, Service and Attitude 10. CIM on the menu for extra.


Claudia Vog. Face 7, body 7.5, BBBJ - 9.5 (pse style, deep throat CIM and then some!) wow! Ride - 7. She didn't smell as fresh down there had her stop after 5 min* BBBJCIM she did not ask for extra. But I gave her a big tip..[/QUOTE]How exactly was Lola's service 6.5? Can you get details? She's basically their flagship provider.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2362204]How exactly was Lola's service 6.5? Can you get details? She's basically their flagship provider.[/QUOTE]I agree, Lola is the best in Montreal in my view, she is undoubtedly the best that XO has to offer. I'm curious about your ratings jelly, I thank you for the reviews but some of your ratings seem strange. I mean 6. 5 for service with Lola? I remember getting CIM at no extra charge with her.

Also you gave Paige a 6 rating for face? She has one of the best faces in Montreal, and everyone I've spoken to agrees. Maybe she has changed, I haven't seen her in a while. Anyway, I don't want to sound too negative but I'm just confused a bit, if you could go into a bit more detail on why you rated some girls low for service it would be helpful.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2362204]How exactly was Lola's service 6.5? Can you get details? She's basically their flagship provider.[/QUOTE]I did not see Lola myself (I wish I did! My friend saw her. He said, BBBJ was quick compared to other providers and she popped the condom on and finished off. He said one of prettiest. But service was a little less than standard. (maybe he had be. O or a stinky dick. LOL).

Paige is tall lanky and not tone, and GND- IMO. Just not my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2362204]How exactly was Lola's service 6.5? Can you get details? She's basically their flagship provider.[/QUOTE]Flagship provider?

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Lola Euphoria?

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2362503]Flagship provider?

Are you sure you aren't thinking of Lola Euphoria?[/QUOTE]Nope, it's Lola at XO I'm thinking of.

She's paid more than the other girls, has consistently solid reviews, and tough to book. Tons of guys I've talked to and trust say you should try and see her out of all the XO girls.

But yea Lola of euphoria is surely a flagship provider too. I've seen her and would def say as of now my vote for provider of the year.

Both chics have solid set of reviews. Across all forums. On the green board I don't think I've seen one of those "hey I saw this provider and the service was quite different from the reviews I read. " Like some of the other girls.

Both Lola's sound like sure shots with pretty consistent high mileage outputs, of course nothing is guaranteed in this hobby.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2362204]How exactly was Lola's service 6.5? Can you get details? She's basically their flagship provider.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2362412]Also you gave Paige a 6 rating for face? She has one of the best faces in Montreal, and everyone I've spoken to agrees. Maybe she has changed, I haven't seen her in a while. Anyway, I don't want to sound too negative but I'm just confused a bit, if you could go into a bit more detail on why you rated some girls low for service it would be helpful.[/QUOTE]Some of you can't seem to accept the fact that someone may have different view of beauty and type. If you don't agree with someone else view, that's fine. There is nothing to be confused or be critical about. The OP doesn't need any detailed explanation. That's his opinion. That's probably the reason I hesitated to post review of each individual lady I've met, and I've seen many. Just because many agree that Paige has one of the best faces, that doesn't automatically mean everyone else would think the same. That would be like a group think mentality. I'm sure you've heard about "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". Right?

You see. I happened to see Paige last year, but I never posted review about her. I would give her face an 8 at best. I agree with the rating of 6 for her body because she is too thin and has small boobs for me. I wish she would work out to gain little bit of weight and tone. (I generally like the tall, natural, and athletic type like tennis star Maria Sharapova.) Paige's attitude is definitely a 9 for sure. She seemed very articulate and wonderful to talk to. However, her service was somewhat questionable, so I would give that a 7 at most.

Before I go any further, let me provide some context. I don't smoke, have a good breath, work out regularly, and stay fit. Before I see a lady, I always shower, brush my clean straight white teeth, rinse with mouth wash. Those are just respectful things to do.

The thing about Paige is that she's like a mannequin. She said she would not mind kissing. She would even let you use your tongue, but she just would not reciprocate. I'm going to coin the phrase "reciprocal DFK". She would keep her mouth open and let you DFK her, but she would not move her lips at all. It's very strange. I've never met provider like that. It's like kissing a mannequin. (Reciprocal DFK to me is more important than BBBJ.) Without reciprocal DFK can be a mood killer and deal breaker for me. It has nothing to do with hygiene or anything like that.

BTW, can anyone confirm if she offers CIM or CIM with Sw? I wasn't in the mood to even bother to ask her.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2362798]Some of you can't seem to accept the fact that someone may have different view of beauty and type. If you don't agree with someone else view, that's fine. There is nothing to be confused or be critical about. The OP doesn't need any detailed explanation. That's his opinion. That's probably the reason I hesitated to post review of each individual lady I've met, and I've seen many. Just because many agree that Paige has one of the best faces, that doesn't automatically mean everyone else would think the same. That would be like a group think mentality. I'm sure you've heard about "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". Right?

You see. I happened to see Paige last year, but I never posted review about her. I would give her face an 8 at best. I agree with the rating of 6 for her body because she is too thin and has small boobs for me. I wish she would work out to gain little bit of weight and tone. (I generally like the tall, natural, and athletic type like tennis star Maria Sharapova.) Paige's attitude is definitely a 9 for sure. She seemed very articulate and wonderful to talk to. However, her service was somewhat questionable, so I would give that a 7 at most.[/QUOTE]Naaaaaahhhhhhh, I think it's more than reasonable to ask someone why his friend gave a 6. 5 rating to Lola from XO. Certainly not questioning it, but yea, an explanation is appreciated. Granted since the OP is not the one who saw her, it will be taken with a grain of salt. Again, I'm not questioning, but yea, would be nice to hear how the experience went. Much in the same way you expressed how your experience with Paige went.

[QUOTE=JellyBelly;2362468]I did not see Lola myself (I wish I did! My friend saw her. He said, BBBJ was quick compared to other providers and she popped the condom on and finished off. He said one of prettiest. But service was a little less than standard. (maybe he had be. O or a stinky dick. LOL).

Paige is tall lanky and not tone, and GND- IMO. Just not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]Fair enough, thanks for the explanation which I think is useful.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2362798]Just because many agree that Paige has one of the best faces, that doesn't automatically mean everyone else would think the same. That would be like a group think mentality. I'm sure you've heard about "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder". Right?[/QUOTE]"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. " LOL. That's what we say about guys dating plain girls.

While your personal experience with service is yours and yours alone, we kind of have to project an escort's beauty for the entire audience here. I can be objective and think a woman's not exactly my type, but I can understand a woman's appeal to other guys.

You can get a pretty good idea of Paige's face from her pics. Velvet's pic show like half of it and putting two and two together you get a pretty good picture. *I haven't seen her, but I can imagine. I won't likely ever see her due to service not being top notch.

I feel like all the best agency girls in terms of DFK service have retired, gone indy, or just aren't working often. It must be that time of year.

Like I saw someone recently and it was more natural LFK than any real DFK. I was a bit disappointed and couldn't be bothered to push for DFK or ask. However, I do have to admit she was a good kisser nonetheless and very into it. I didn't feel like she was really holding back. Anyway, I think I'm done with the agencies, unless someone has some truly fantastic recommendations. Back to indy only.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2363015]Anyway, I think I'm done with the agencies, unless someone has some truly fantastic recommendations. Back to indy only.[/QUOTE]Elie from VOG will give you DFK++ and she will give it you enthusiastically. Mia of VOG also gave me very good DFK. I know that Lola at Euphoria will give DFK++ as well. I get your disappointment with the lack of real DFK with agency girls. DFK is obviously YMMV as well so you have to consider that, I've gotten very good kissing from girls who were reviewed as only giving LFK. DFK is a term that is thrown around a lot, I see it way too often in reviews, people confuse LFK with DFK. You should see Elie if you haven't already, her kissing makes you feel like she really wants you, because she probably does, that woman loves sex.

Interesting ad on Saturday for one of the Montreal agencies new girls. GFE YMMV. I don't think I have ever seen an advertised girl with YMMV for GFE. I thought GFE was the standard and additional services were YMMV. Looked for a thread on her on green board. There was an outstanding initial review followed by two reviews that were less than stellar. The owner at first blamed the client's hygiene then said that her GFE was a YMMV. This week the girl is no longer on the roster. Kudos to the two reviewers who posted their honest reviews. And I still wonder if some of these agencies instruct their new girls to be "especially nice" to the big reviewers on the green board to insure stunning initial reviews and generate demand.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2363015] Anyway, I think I'm done with the agencies, unless someone has some truly fantastic recommendations. Back to indy only.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree. With the exception of half a dozen agency girls, mostly from Vog and Euphoria, I've been sticking mostly to new Indies.

One I really like is Jade Beaujolais.

Jade started this year as an Indy and had no prior experience with the biz even though she is in her mid twenties. What she has is tons of is great skills, a certain innocence and freshness, and plenty of enthusiasm.

I enjoy flirting on social media and that's how I've discovered some true gems. The best last year was LOLATHEBRAT. She is away in Europe for another month but she is posting some x rated vids on Twitter. April should be back in a couple of weeks and from the sounds of it. She is booking up fast.

Does anyone know what happened to Kellie from XO? I tried to see her back in April but schedules got tangled and now I just noticed she's not there anymore. Switch agencies?

[QUOTE=TNewton;2363615]Interesting ad on Saturday for one of the Montreal agencies new girls. GFE YMMV. I don't think I have ever seen an advertised girl with YMMV for GFE. I thought GFE was the standard and additional services were YMMV. Looked for a thread on her on green board. There was an outstanding initial review followed by two reviews that were less than stellar. The owner at first blamed the client's hygiene then said that her GFE was a YMMV. This week the girl is no longer on the roster. Kudos to the two reviewers who posted their honest reviews. And I still wonder if some of these agencies instruct their new girls to be "especially nice" to the big reviewers on the green board to insure stunning initial reviews and generate demand.[/QUOTE]That was one of the Godiva girls. I kinda do see what the agency is saying though. If there was really substandard service (mind you this is different from not clicking with the chic) I'the let the agency know before writing a review so it can be remedied. You can write a review but it's a he said she said scenario sometimes.

Has anyone seen any of these new Godiva chics? Rachel Looks great but no reviews.

Is freya From xo formerly of Godiva? It's not Emma or Chloe is it?

Also is the rose on XO roster formerly cloudys crush from vogue?

[QUOTE=TNewton;2363615]Interesting ad on Saturday for one of the Montreal agencies new girls. GFE YMMV. I don't think I have ever seen an advertised girl with YMMV for GFE. I thought GFE was the standard and additional services were YMMV. Looked for a thread on her on green board. There was an outstanding initial review followed by two reviews that were less than stellar. The owner at first blamed the client's hygiene then said that her GFE was a YMMV. This week the girl is no longer on the roster. Kudos to the two reviewers who posted their honest reviews. And I still wonder if some of these agencies instruct their new girls to be "especially nice" to the big reviewers on the green board to insure stunning initial reviews and generate demand.[/QUOTE]Yes I noticed that too. The first review was from a guy who has a great experience with literally every girl he sees. This dude's batting average is insane. Maybe he's just that great of a client that he always has a good time? What's more likely is that he only posts his good experiences and fails to report on his negative ones. Anyway, it was interesting that the owner initially blamed hygiene and vouched that she is GFE. Sometimes I wonder if agencies screen these girls ahead of time? It's almost like any girl with passable looks can just come in off the street and start working. That mentality would be fine in a tourist trap strip club, where "service" doesn't matter much, but at an agency it should be different.

Some have posted that Heidi has a lot of tattoos? Are they distracting? All seem to agree she is beautiful, but how skinny? I like some curves. Is she too skinny?

[QUOTE=JellyBelly;2362037]Hello gents,

Just got back and overall great trip, had a better time than last year, already going through withdrawal. Saw 9 lovely ladies in 6 days. Just for context of the reviews, I like spinners / thin types natural boobs not taller than 5'7.

Priscilla XO- Face 7, Body 7 (bigger ass than I like) service 10, attitude 10. Would def repeat.

Anastasia XO. Face 5, Body 8, Service 10, Attitude 10. CIM and Anal on the menu for extra. Would def repeat, best pse experience of the trip.

Erika Euphoria. Face 7, Body 8, Service and Attitude 10. CIM on the menu for extra.

Katrina. Independent - 9 all around. She walked in and my jaw dropped. Model material. Would def repeat. Best all around (looks / body + service) session of the trip.

Paige. Velvet - looks 6 , body 6, service (BJ -8.5, ride -5) attitude -9. Saw a lot of positive reviews about her. Wasn't feeling it with her tho..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PogoHunter3222;2363819]Does anyone know what happened to Kellie from XO? I tried to see her back in April but schedules got tangled and now I just noticed she's not there anymore. Switch agencies?[/QUOTE]Yes she switched. "Kellie" from XO is now "Kelly Ann" at Euphoria.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2363824]

Is freya From xo formerly of Godiva? It's not Emma or Chloe is it?

Also is the rose on XO roster formerly cloudys crush from vogue?[/QUOTE]I'm curious about Freya too. A reviewer stated that she is not new to the industry, but I have no idea about her history. I'm seeing Freya this weekend, I'll report back to you with my review along with all the others I'll be seeing this weekend. I'll try to do a summary report of my trip.

As for Rose at XO, her stats are different than cloudsurf's Rose that worked at VOG and briefly at Euphoria. Unless she shrank a few inches and aged a few years, I don't think it's her.

[QUOTE=GregDww;2364008]Some have posted that Heidi has a lot of tattoos? Are they distracting? All seem to agree she is beautiful, but how skinny? I like some curves. Is she too skinny?[/QUOTE]I don't believe she is too skinny. She is thin but not skinny like Anastasia at Xo. Her mad made breasts stick out on such a small frame though. Some taller girls with more weight can support larger breasts better. She is one of the prettiest girls I have seen in Montreal. I'm one that doesn't mind tattoos. I think most girls in Montreal that I have seen have tattoos that are tasteful. Hers for the most part were fine. Although I didn't quite understand the one on Heidi's stomach area. She is a wonderful provider.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2363978]But at an agency it should be different.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I once noticed a review say something like. It was the perfect Girl Friend Experience. She refused to give me a BJ, and then complained the entire time we had sex. Couldn't resist the joke. Apologies if this sounded funnier in my head.

Interesting about Kellie switching from XO to Euphoria. A couple of weeks ago on an XO thread she was championing Xo's rate hike to $230 - getting WiFi and the conditions of the incall rooms. And then she leaves to go to another agency with a lower rate?

Is the new Holly on Euphoria the one time Lana on XO? Sure looks like her.

Euphoria seems to have returned to the premier agency in Montreal. I don't think it is close. What's happened to Xo?

[QUOTE=TNewton;2364071]Interesting about Kellie switching from XO to Euphoria. A couple of weeks ago on an XO thread she was championing Xo's rate hike to $230 - getting WiFi and the conditions of the incall rooms. And then she leaves to go to another agency with a lower rate?

Euphoria seems to have returned to the premier agency in Montreal. I don't think it is close. What's happened to Xo?[/QUOTE]There's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes that the average customer doesn't know. The ones in the "loop" (some here, some on the green board) seem to know much of the drama though. In any case. It's not unusual for a girl to talk highly of an agency and then suddenly switch. I remember Amanda did it last year.

I just wanted to know if they where to over the top and be a turn off. Her feedback is good to pass up.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2364066]I don't believe she is too skinny. She is thin but not skinny like Anastasia at Xo. Her mad made breasts stick out on such a small frame though. Some taller girls with more weight can support larger breasts better. She is one of the prettiest girls I have seen in Montreal. I'm one that doesn't mind tattoos. I think most girls in Montreal that I have seen have tattoos that are tasteful. Hers for the most part were fine. Although I didn't quite understand the one on Heidi's stomach area. She is a wonderful provider.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2364177]There's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes that the average customer doesn't know. The ones in the "loop" (some here, some on the green board) seem to know much of the drama though. In any case. It's not unusual for a girl to talk highly of an agency and then suddenly switch. I remember Amanda did it last year.[/QUOTE]Damn right! Girl that do this are not renown for their loyalty haha And I do not say that negatively at all. They are their own employer guys. Never forget this. The agency is just a facilitator.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=GregDww;2364008]Some have posted that Heidi has a lot of tattoos? Are they distracting? All seem to agree she is beautiful, but how skinny? I like some curves. Is she too skinny?[/QUOTE]I am one that likes curves too. But her amazing cute face and service made up for it. I did not mind her skinny body and just devoured her.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2364009]Yes she switched. "Kellie" from XO is now "Kelly Ann" at Euphoria.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the updated info! Tough to keep it all straight as an occasional visitor.

Thank you for the review as you mentioned Katrina Independent. How to find her?

[QUOTE=JellyBelly;2362037]Hello gents,

Just got back and overall great trip, had a better time than last year, already going through withdrawal. Saw 9 lovely ladies in 6 days. Just for context of the reviews, I like spinners / thin types natural boobs not taller than 5'7.

Priscilla XO- Face 7, Body 7 (bigger ass than I like) service 10, attitude 10. Would def repeat.

Anastasia XO. Face 5, Body 8, Service 10, Attitude 10. CIM and Anal on the menu for extra. Would def repeat, best pse experience of the trip.

Erika Euphoria. Face 7, Body 8, Service and Attitude 10. CIM on the menu for extra.

Katrina. Independent - 9 all around. She walked in and my jaw dropped. Model material. Would def repeat. Best all around (looks / body + service) session of the trip.

Paige. Velvet - looks 6 , body 6, service (BJ -8.5, ride -5) attitude -9. Saw a lot of positive reviews about her. Wasn't feeling it with her tho..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2363978] Sometimes I wonder if agencies screen these girls ahead of time? It's almost like any girl with passable looks can just come in off the street and start working. That mentality would be fine in a tourist trap strip club, where "service" doesn't matter much, but at an agency it should be different.[/QUOTE]I have thought the same thing. I would imagine that the big agencies like Xo and Euphoria are more exclusive and do a tighter screening. The smaller agencies probably have the attitude that they will try anyone out and if they don't work out. Just drop them.

Thank you for the review as you mentioned Katrina Independent. How to find her?

[QUOTE=TNewton;2362183]Yes Jelly Bean nice reviews. I agree with the Katrina and Heidi reviews for excellence. I think Katrina has it all. Looks, service, and attitude. She blows my away every time I see her. Heidi is probably my all time favorite. So very pretty and sweet and sexy. I too want to spend all day with her and I want to take her home with me!

LOL Jalimon2 for your comments on Jade. I saw her last year and she was complaining about her boyfriend then. This might be a thing with her. Ha. Only I didn't get what you got. I got a response of - "I can't really continue the session because I am so upset and feel guilty. " So the last half hour I listened to her complaints about her relationship with her boyfriend. She then said she was going to cancel all her appointments for the rest of the night because she needed to talk with him. I guess it is best to get her on a night when she's feeling anger against her boyfriend rather than guilty.[/QUOTE]

I saw these two girls more to the Velvet Love agency this week. They are both high on my TDL. Anyone have the scoop on why they made the move? Are they still top tier girls? Don't want to book the if any issues or anything else as developed. Any info in general on these two girls would be appreciated. From what I gather Shelly is a goddess and Noemie is amazing but has scars due to her breast implants.

WW.

Was thinking of booking these two as the duo for my trip. From what I understand the are both pretty blondes with big breasts (one man made, the other natural). They are best friends so I think they would work well together. Any one have info on these girls? Is one much hotter than the other? Is it a waste and should just see one or the other?

WW.

Thanks for the info, Jelly Belly! Any links to find Katrina?

[QUOTE=JellyBelly;2362037]Hello gents,

Just got back and overall great trip, had a better time than last year, already going through withdrawal. Saw 9 lovely ladies in 6 days. Just for context of the reviews, I like spinners / thin types natural boobs not taller than 5'7.

Priscilla XO- Face 7, Body 7 (bigger ass than I like) service 10, attitude 10. Would def repeat.

Anastasia XO. Face 5, Body 8, Service 10, Attitude 10. CIM and Anal on the menu for extra. Would def repeat, best pse experience of the trip.

Erika Euphoria. Face 7, Body 8, Service and Attitude 10. CIM on the menu for extra.

Katrina. Independent - 9 all around. She walked in and my jaw dropped. Model material. Would def repeat. Best all around (looks / body + service) session of the trip.

Paige. Velvet - looks 6 , body 6, service (BJ -8.5, ride -5) attitude -9. Saw a lot of positive reviews about her. Wasn't feeling it with her tho..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sri15;2364320]Thank you for the review as you mentioned Katrina Independent. How to find her?[/QUOTE]I don't believe see has a website. She no longer updates her twitter. She does have an ad on green board under katrinagirl2018.

[QUOTE=Sri15;2364320]Thank you for the review as you mentioned Katrina Independent. How to find her?[/QUOTE]I guess easiest is to create an account on Merb. CC. Never saw her advertise anywhere else and she does not have a website. Not sure if we are allowed to post her number or email here?

Cheers,

How does one change the order of how posts are sorted?

They seem to be in reverse order and would like to view last page as latest (if that makes any sense).

[QUOTE=GregDww;2364008]Some have posted that Heidi has a lot of tattoos? Are they distracting? All seem to agree she is beautiful, but how skinny? I like some curves. Is she too skinny?[/QUOTE]Heidi looks good to me but if you are into curves I'd go for Raphaelle at euphoria, Rebecca at Euphoria, Kate at euphoria or Emma at Xo. All good providers in my experience.

[QUOTE=TapTap;2364657]How does one change the order of how posts are sorted?

They seem to be in reverse order and would like to view last page as latest (if that makes any sense).[/QUOTE]What's the big deal. Go back a several pages (several days) and read forward.

For some of us who check-in every day or two, this method works well seeing only the latest posts.

How where they in terms of facial beauty? Is any one soft in terms of body tightness?

[QUOTE=JaliscoState;2364837]Heidi looks good to me but if you are into curves I'd go for Raphaelle at euphoria, Rebecca at Euphoria, Kate at euphoria or Emma at Xo. All good providers in my experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregDww;2364992]How where they in terms of facial beauty? Is any one soft in terms of body tightness?[/QUOTE]Raph's booty is soft, but her service is the best and she speaks greek. Raph's face is OK.

I find Emma to be amazing. Her double D's are out of this world. Great BBBJ too.

Kate's face is also very nice. Nice Dees and ass. Very tight.

[QUOTE=GregDww;2364992]How where they in terms of facial beauty? Is any one soft in terms of body tightness?[/QUOTE]Ralph's a babe Listen really I think Emma is cuter but as for buying time with an SP I would go with Raphaelle again big time!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2364912]What's the big deal. Go back a several pages (several days) and read forward.

For some of us who check-in every day or two, this method works well seeing only the latest posts.[/QUOTE]To be honest, I find this way of reading a board weird too, even if I check every couple days. Its not so much the pages order, that its alright, but its the reading from bottom to top. Its basically all inverted. Maybe its just "being used to the other format" but oh well.

[QUOTE=JaliscoState;2364837]Heidi looks good to me but if you are into curves I'd go for Raphaelle at euphoria, Rebecca at Euphoria, Kate at euphoria or Emma at Xo. All good providers in my experience.[/QUOTE]This name Heidi keeps coming up here. I presume this is the Heidi who worked with Euphoria who was last working at XO. She doesn't seem to be working of late or even listed on the XO or Euphoria websites. Of course, that can change tomorrow.

Who are Sophie and Lexis of euphoria? Are they transfers from another agency? Anyone seen them?

Also any experiences with Ruby from anyone?

Met with Julia at Euphoria at their condo. Julia's face was cuter than GND with a spinner body. I'the guess her age to be in early 20's. I did not ask anything extra, so I don't know what options were available. But I had a good time with her. The only somewhat negative thing was we had 20 min. Left, and she took shower and got clothed. I took that as the sign to leave. I, too, was fully satisfied and ready to saying good by at that point. So it worked out for both.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Met with Kelly Anne at Euphoria at their condo. She was a super spinner with a GND face, with a few tattoos and facial piercing. I really enjoyed her DT skills. Her kitty was nicely shaven. The view from behind was spectacular. Service-wise, I normally do not ask for anything extra. So not sure what options were available.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2365645]Also any experiences with Ruby from anyone?[/QUOTE]I saw and reviewed Ruby when she had a different name, and short black hair.

I saw her before she became a super star at XO. And guess what. I thought she was already amazing. Fun personality and loves to dance.

Her body is perfection. Pale skin perfect breasts and a round booty. If I remember well she is French from France but speaks English well.

Her service is sensual GFE with no anal and no CIM, but lots of kissing.

Based on her recent reviews she is a gem.

Does Kate have tattoos? If so are there a lot? Distracting?

[QUOTE=JaliscoState;2365050]Raph's booty is soft, but her service is the best and she speaks greek. Raph's face is OK.

I find Emma to be amazing. Her double D's are out of this world. Great BBBJ too.

Kate's face is also very nice. Nice Dees and ass. Very tight.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=GregDww;2366110]Does Kate have tattoos? If so are there a lot? Distracting?.[/QUOTE]Yes she has sleeves. I'm not into tattoos at all but some girls could do anything and I'd still find them hot. Kate is one of those IMHO.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2365950]I saw and reviewed Ruby when she had a different name, and short black hair.

I saw her before she became a super star at XO. And guess what. I thought she was already amazing. Fun personality and loves to dance.

Her body is perfection. Pale skin perfect breasts and a round booty. If I remember well she is French from France but speaks English well.

Her service is sensual GFE with no anal and no CIM, but lots of kissing.

Based on her recent reviews she is a gem.[/QUOTE]Babes I'm talking about Ruby from euphoria, the one with the nice jigglies. Dude we need to get our shit together if we ever hope to have a 4 some gangbang cloudy! You can't be getting the chics names mixed up in a 4 some.

Def getting a wishy washy feel for what type of provider she is.

I need some recommendations, I am just outside of Montreal. I am looking for some good spinners. I like under 5'8", thin, small tits, CIM. Looking for someone for multiple shots, first is always quick.

From reading, the sites I am checking are:

[URL]https://montrealxxxtase.com[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsxo.com[/URL]

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escortes/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.leolist.cc/directory/quebec/female/city_id/100[/URL]

Is there a site that you guys recommend as the #1 go to?

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2366302]Babes I'm talking about Ruby from euphoria, the one with the nice jigglies..[/QUOTE]My bad. I had meant to write Ruby from Euphoria since there is no Ruby at XO. Memory is the second thing to go at my age and I forget the first.

As far as your desire for a 4 some I can't help you there but I'm sure one of the ex Unicorn gals can arrange something for you. LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnDoe9021;2366339]I need some recommendations, I am just outside of Montreal. I am looking for some good spinners. I like under 5'8", thin, small tits, CIM. Looking for someone for multiple shots, first is always quick.

From reading, the sites I am checking are:

[URL]https://montrealxxxtase.com[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsxo.com[/URL]

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escortes/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.leolist.cc/directory/quebec/female/city_id/100[/URL]

Is there a site that you guys recommend as the #1 go to?[/QUOTE]Euphoria is the top Montreal agency right now.

Stay away from leolist.

BTW Godiva and Velvet may also be of interest.

Most girls who offer CIM charge extra. Most offer 2 shots in an hour.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2365950]I saw and reviewed Ruby when she had a different name, and short black hair.

I saw her before she became a super star at XO. And guess what. I thought she was already amazing. Fun personality and loves to dance.

Her body is perfection. Pale skin perfect breasts and a round booty. If I remember well she is French from France but speaks English well.

Her service is sensual GFE with no anal and no CIM, but lots of kissing.

Based on her recent reviews she is a gem.[/QUOTE]Where was Ruby and what was her name? Are there reviews under that other name?

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2366724]Where was Ruby and what was her name? Are there reviews under that other name?[/QUOTE]I know for a fact she does not want that to be known. So please guys respect that request for privacy.

Cheers,

Posted this erroneously on the Quebec City Forum and am re-posting here.

So I'm a Caribbean venturing guy who was turned on to Canada from an Aruba post. Live in NY so this is an easy trip. Never realized there was action up north. Tried to go through these posts, but as you can imagine, there is ton's of info, and I was hoping someone could just help me focus.

It appears that there are many in call massage places. Are these just happy ending by hand, or can you actually do more?

Are there any strip clubs or brothels where you can go in, have a drink, spend some cash, pick a girl, and do incall there, or actually take her out? This, to me, is much more interesting than a massage place, but again, have no idea what the massage places are like. I briefly saw that the in city places are just lap dances with little more. Do you have to travel outside to get better action. Any recommendations?

And finally, are the online outcall places legit. Do they deliver the girls that actually appear, or is more like a Vegas bait and switch?

Grateful for any input.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2367560]I know for a fact she does not want that to be known. So please guys respect that request for privacy.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]Understood, absolutely.

Take everything you know about the Caribbean and the rip-off agencies that hand cards out on the Vegas Strip and do the exact opposite in Montreal. The exact fucking opposite.

Most Caribbean (and many South American) countries segregate their sex work scene into red light districts. They want the action to happen there, and they are fine with it. Montreal has gradually become the opposite. It doesn't want visible massage parlors or full-service strip joints. Full-service massage parlors still exist, but the screening is relatively significant to get in. They are frequented mostly by married Montreal locals who don't have a hotel room, or for unknown reasons don't want to go to an agency incall.

If you call Euphoria, XO, Vog or Velvet Love, a beautiful lady will come to your room and fuck your brains out for an hour at the stated price. BBBJ is standard. There are a bunch of independents who will do the same. My personal preference goes toward the independents who were once affiliated with the Unicorn Agency, but that is just my personal preference.

There is one good agency in Vegas that is honest, but they don't hand out cards on the strip. The ones that do are in fact bait and switch.

The lady that arrives at your door in Montreal looks like the website pics, even more so if she was her own website pictures or Twitter presence. There has been a lot of nonsense posted in this forum. For instance, Scarlett of XO placed very high in the voting for a major online beauty contest in her alter ego. I have seen her and she is gorgeous and delivers a hell of a performance. No way anyone could not find her extremely attractive.

I have no idea what agenda guys have on ISG who come to diss the Montreal scene. I suppose they think the local board has too much rating inflation, and that many providers are 7's and 8's out of 10 who would be listed as 9's and 10's out of 10 on the local board. But they do a disservice to newbies reading about the Montreal scene, in my opinion.

Pick a recommended agency lady or independent mentioned here on ISG from guys who don't want to complain all the time, and you will be pleased.

[QUOTE=SxmBound;2367578]Posted this erroneously on the Quebec City Forum and am re-posting here.

So I'm a Caribbean venturing guy who was turned on to Canada from an Aruba post. Live in NY so this is an easy trip. Never realized there was action up north. Tried to go through these posts, but as you can imagine, there is ton's of info, and I was hoping someone could just help me focus.

It appears that there are many in call massage places. Are these just happy ending by hand, or can you actually do more?.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for reading enough to ask reasonable questions. I happen to be in Montreal myself at the moment so here's what I know (and what I don't). The thing that makes it special here is the professionalism of the agencies, the beauty and service levels of the girls and the reasonable price, compared to NY. All with first world amenities and a friendly, chill atmosphere.

Google Merb Montreal. This is sometimes referred to here as the green board. You can register to see the reviews but I usually use it to peruse the daily LU of the escort agencies. In general the pics are pretty accurate, the photoshop used to mostly remove incriminating tattoos. Faces are not shown for the same reason but range from GND to DDG, depending on taste. The body shots (and ages) are accurate. WYSIWYG unlike Vegas. I've used XO, Vogue and Euphoria with great success. That's what I know.

What I don't know anything about is massage places since they don't interest me. There's no puta club scene like in Brazil or Panama. I may stop by a downtown strip club this trip but reports are extremely lame and frankly it's hard to see spending less than a good escort for an hour of GFE. You do get higher mileage outside downtown but reports are it's still lame. The agencies are where it's at.

[QUOTE=SxmBound;2367578]Posted this erroneously on the Quebec City Forum and am re-posting here.

So I'm a Caribbean venturing guy who was turned on to Canada from an Aruba post. Live in NY so this is an easy trip. Never realized there was action up north. Tried to go through these posts, but as you can imagine, there is ton's of info, and I was hoping someone could just help me focus.

It appears that there are many in call massage places. Are these just happy ending by hand, or can you actually do more?

Are there any strip clubs or brothels where you can go in, have a drink, spend some cash, pick a girl, and do incall there, or actually take her out? This, to me, is much more interesting than a massage place, but again, have no idea what the massage places are like. I briefly saw that the in city places are just lap dances with little more. Do you have to travel outside to get better action. Any recommendations?

And finally, are the online outcall places legit. Do they deliver the girls that actually appear, or is more like a Vegas bait and switch?

Grateful for any input.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2367711]What I don't know anything about is massage places since they don't interest me. There's no puta club scene like in Brazil or Panama. I may stop by a downtown strip club this trip but reports are extremely lame and frankly it's hard to see spending less than a good escort for an hour of GFE. You do get higher mileage outside downtown but reports are it's still lame. The agencies are where it's at[/QUOTE]Completely agree. Listen there is an absolute great massage scene in Montreal but in my opinion these are not for first timer in the city. It's much easier to stick to reputable agency, XO, Euphoria, Vog, Godiva, Velvet, xxxtase, carteblanche.

Cheers,

I don't think we actually have to give a plug to a competing board. You can check the schedules of ExcortsXO, Euphoria, Vogue, Velvet Love on their websites. Yes, most girls are added in the early hours of the morning for the that day. EscortsXO and Vogue however add girls all week for the upcoming days. I believe a few girls at Vogue and XO sometimes don't even get advertised on the green board. They just pop up on the agency's website schedule.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2367658]

I have no idea what agenda guys have on ISG who come to diss the Montreal scene. I suppose they think the local board has too much rating inflation, and that many providers are 7's and 8's out of 10 who would be listed as 9's and 10's out of 10 on the local board. But they do a disservice to newbies reading about the Montreal scene, in my opinion.

Pick a recommended agency lady or independent mentioned here on ISG from guys who don't want to complain all the time, and you will be pleased.[/QUOTE]Speaking of rating inflation. I used to hobby in the southern United States. Girls that I saw that were IMHO 6's or below were frequently given 8-9's on ***. I mean these girls were fat or in one case old (older) and wrinkly like she had laid out in the sun too many years etc. And the girl was given 8-9's. IN YOUR DREAMS! I would go to Montreal and see girls in their late teens and early twenties and notice that all they could rate was a fricken 7! I'm talking about girls like Chloe and Liz etc. WTF? Go sleep with the pigs that I gave a 5-6 to down South that others gave a 9. In the end, I couldn't blame those guys because they haven't been to Montreal. I go to FKKs and Brazil on a fairly regular basis so I use this a comparison.

Montreal is unique because you get to see young recent high school graduates / young Co-Eds from Quebec. Also, I have a strong opinion that you a higher probability of receiving a more consistent, passionate service in Montreal.

You guys are awesome and I appreciate all the feedback. Am looking forward to visiting.

Seems like strip clubs are out, and out call is the way to go. I also appreciate that only so much can be stated and posted publicly regarding massage locations. May decide to check one out just out of curiosity.

Wow I am getting to be an old man. Backpage closing down has made looking for.

Opportunities difficult the past few years. Previous trips wasn't not as difficult to scout out options. Haven't been to Montreal in a few years.

Hear the strip club scene is lame? Last AMP visited was Leonel on Rene' by Chinatown. In past had success from.

Apartment incalls in center of DT. Stayed away from AMPS in heart of downtown by St Cath due to "overrated" for cost.

Will RTF here and check the Merb / massage planet reviews.

An online friend told me to consider AMP / AAMP on Decarie' part of town I could find ads in Kijji? Should I look on "parc ave". He didn't remember which address I found 2 places looking at "online massage "ads. He said woman was early 40's but willing and not acting.

Should I spin my wheel of luck?

Any Asian outcall options?

I will post my report ASAP when I m in town later this week.

Effy at Vog is part Asian and is getting fantastic reviews. She is probably the girl you want if you prefer petite Asians (or at least part Asians).

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escorts/effy/[/URL]

This independent is Chinese. Not really a traditional petite Asian, in fact she has large breasts. Her subspecialty is prostate play if that is something you are looking for by preferring Asians.

[URL]https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?184493-Selina-Asian-Independent-GFE-Massotherapist-OLD-MONTREAL&highlight=Selina[/URL]

[QUOTE=USAmpexplorer;2369146]Wow I am getting to be an old man. Backpage closing down has made looking for.

Opportunities difficult the past few years. Previous trips wasn't not as difficult to scout out options. Haven't been to Montreal in a few years.

Hear the strip club scene is lame? Last AMP visited was Leonel on Rene' by Chinatown. In past had success from.

Apartment incalls in center of DT. Stayed away from AMPS in heart of downtown by St Cath due to "overrated" for cost..[/QUOTE]

Thanks to the feedback from all of you, I am heading to Montreal this Sunday to check out the outcall scene. Pardon my ignorance, but many of you mention reviews of the ladies. Are they posted in these forums, Merb, or somewhere else?

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2368023]Speaking of rating inflation. I used to hobby in the southern United States. Girls that I saw that were IMHO 6's or below were frequently given 8-9's on ***. I mean these girls were fat or in one case old (older) and wrinkly like she had laid out in the sun too many years etc. And the girl was given 8-9's. IN YOUR DREAMS! I would go to Montreal and see girls in their late teens and early twenties and notice that all they could rate was a fricken 7! I'm talking about girls like Chloe and Liz etc. WTF? Go sleep with the pigs that I gave a 5-6 to down South that others gave a 9. In the end, I couldn't blame those guys because they haven't been to Montreal. I go to FKKs and Brazil on a fairly regular basis so I use this a comparison.

Montreal is unique because you get to see young recent high school graduates / young Co-Eds from Quebec. Also, I have a strong opinion that you a higher probability of receiving a more consistent, passionate service in Montreal.[/QUOTE]I saw April (Indy formerly Vogue) recently. She is easily a 9+ anywhere in the world. Body and face. Celebrity comparisons always are tricky so I'll avoid that this time. I prefer DFK instead of LFK, but she is very enthusiastic on all other levels of service. Her breasts are an amazing creation of nature. They make Kate Upton's breasts look like bags of jello.

April is clearly an outlier, but there are many very attractive women at the major agencies.

I've been visiting Montreal for thirty years. The women are more open sexually. I hate to say that because goofy guys with no game will think that every girl is available to them. I've always found younger women intrigued by confident, older men. Mature women in their 40's? If they were sexually liberal in their 20's, they are definitely interested in their 40's. Just my take.

This openness always seems to pervade the P4P scene in any country. Brazil is a perfect example of this.

[QUOTE=SxmBound;2369412]Thanks to the feedback from all of you, I am heading to Montreal this Sunday to check out the outcall scene. Pardon my ignorance, but many of you mention reviews of the ladies. Are they posted in these forums, Merb, or somewhere else?[/QUOTE]Merb has a review section labeled by lady. It is free to join, but you must join to read the reviews.

ISG certainly has plenty of reviews but they are not organized. You just have to read the last 1-50 pages and make notes.

If you tell us what you are looking for (BBBJ versus CBJ), DFK versus relatively less kissing, ideal age of the lady, breast size, facial attractiveness, fetish availability, price range, etc. , you will get some recommendations. Of course many of us like a variety on trips. So studying the websites of the major agencies and independents is a good game plan.

[QUOTE=SxmBound;2369412]Thanks to the feedback from all of you, I am heading to Montreal this Sunday to check out the outcall scene. Pardon my ignorance, but many of you mention reviews of the ladies. Are they posted in these forums, Merb, or somewhere else?[/QUOTE]Some here but mostly on Merb. Usage of the private message on Merb is what helped me more then reviews actually.

Have fun!

I'd be curious to know who people think is the best looking Asian SP in Montreal. Incall or outcall, but preferably incall.

There's such a lack of asian escorts in Montreal. It's unfortunate (for people who have a thing for that, like me).

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2369538]I'd be curious to know who people think is the best looking Asian SP in Montreal. Incall or outcall, but preferably incall.

There's such a lack of asian escorts in Montreal. It's unfortunate (for people who have a thing for that, like me).[/QUOTE]Best looking from the ones I've seen? I would say Alice Storm from Indy Companions. She is part Vietnamese.

My favourite is Effy from Vogue not because she is the prettiest, she is not, but because of her awesome and very kinky service. I saw her 7 times and would see her again if I had the time.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2369515]Some here but mostly on Merb. Usage of the private message on Merb is what helped me more then reviews actually.[/QUOTE]Private messaging here on ISG or anywhere is where you get the best insight. I've found guys are reluctant to be too critical on the forums.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2369538]I'd be curious to know who people think is the best looking Asian SP in Montreal. Incall or outcall, but preferably incall.

There's such a lack of asian escorts in Montreal. It's unfortunate (for people who have a thing for that, like me).[/QUOTE]How is Mia Wolfe Mtl? She has twitter and website.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2369501]If you tell us what you are looking for (BBBJ versus CBJ), DFK versus relatively less kissing, ideal age of the lady, breast size, facial attractiveness, fetish availability, price range, etc. , you will get some recommendations. Of course many of us like a variety on trips. So studying the websites of the major agencies and independents is a good game plan.[/QUOTE]Taking you up on your offer. Looking for under 25 years of age, good attitude, definitely BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and would be nice, but not required, CIM or COF.

Have to say that I've been on the Caribbean sites forever, Dominican Republic, St Marten and Aruba. You guys are much more serious about your ladies and much more helpful.

Looks like I've been wasting years in the wrong place. Looking forward to my trip this weekend.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2369575]Best looking from the ones I've seen? I would say Alice Storm from Indy Companions. She is part Vietnamese.

My favourite is Effy from Vogue not because she is the prettiest, she is not, but because of her awesome and very kinky service. I saw her 7 times and would see her again if I had the time.[/QUOTE]How would you say they stack up with Miah from XO or Maie (formerly XO, now Maie Xuan)? If you've seen them, that is.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2369700]How would you say they stack up with Miah from XO or Maie (formerly XO, now Maie Xuan)? If you've seen them, that is.[/QUOTE]Sorry I haven't seen Miah or Maie Xuan, but they do look hot especially Maie who now does duos with Rose (ex Unicorn) I believe.

Best I can do is post a link to Alice and that may give you a bit of comparison. [URL]https://www.alicestorm.live/portrait.[/URL].

Effy to me is GND but her service is off the charts crazy.

On the other board she's getting 10/10 in the service department. The reviews say she has natural DS that have a slight "SAG" . I've learned to take everything I read on the green board with a grain of salt so does anyone have a true description and can confirm this legendary BBBJ?

[QUOTE=SxmBound;2369665]Taking you up on your offer. Looking for under 25 years of age, good attitude, definitely BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and would be nice, but not required, CIM or COF.

Have to say that I've been on the Caribbean sites forever, Dominican Republic, St Marten and Aruba. You guys are much more serious about your ladies and much more helpful.

Looks like I've been wasting years in the wrong place. Looking forward to my trip this weekend.[/QUOTE]What you describe is the standard for Montreal escorts, so you could pick most any of them.

Here would be my personal choices for the top four agencies I mentioned. Hopefully other will chime in with recommendations better than mine.

Velvet Love.

Darla.

Sabrina (if she is still there).

Logan is wonderful if you are into large breasts but she is well into her 30's.

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/models[/URL]

Vog.

Effy.

Laura.

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escortes/[/URL]

XO Escorts.

Scarlett.

Meghan.

Anastasia.

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/models/[/URL]

Euphoria.

Lola.

Heaven.

Allyson.

Amber (if you are into the slghtly curvier look).

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/models[/URL]

Once again, most every lady on the line-up meets your criteria.

I just listed some person favorites and ladies who have received great reviews from guys I trust.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2369851]Best I can do is post a link to Alice and that may give you a bit of comparison. [URL]https://www.alicestorm.live/portrait.[/URL].[/QUOTE]When I saw the link to Alice wasn't working, I checked the Indy Companion web site and saw she wasn't there any longer. She probably retired although her twitter account is still working.

BTW the Rose I was referring to is April Rose.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2369967]What you describe is the standard for Montreal escorts, so you could pick most any of them.

Here would be my personal choices for the top four agencies I mentioned. Hopefully other will chime in with recommendations better than mine.

Velvet Love.

Darla.

Sabrina (if she is still there).

Logan is wonderful if you are into large breasts but she is well into her 30's.[/QUOTE]Always a pleasure to see your input Mongerer88.

I would add that Godiva has a porn star and a nympho on their roster.

There are some great Indies too. Some like Sonia and Melodie, from Unicorn.

Other great Indies around too. My 3 favourites right now are Alyssa Minx, Jade Beaujolais and April McAdams. All are gorgeous and all give passionate GFE / PSE service. All have review threads on merb.

Unfortunately for Montrealers. Many of the most popular Indies are spending a lot of time travelling to Toronto, N. Y. N L. A. Where they can make more.

I would add that Godiva has a porn star and a nympho on their roster.

Would you like to share more info on these two lovey ladies please?

[QUOTE=SxmBound;2369665]Taking you up on your offer. Looking for under 25 years of age, good attitude, definitely BBBJ, DFK, DATY, and would be nice, but not required, CIM or COF.

Have to say that I've been on the Caribbean sites forever, Dominican Republic, St Marten and Aruba. You guys are much more serious about your ladies and much more helpful.

Looks like I've been wasting years in the wrong place. Looking forward to my trip this weekend.[/QUOTE]Lucia is a beautiful Latina with vogue, very service oriented, great BBBJ, decent enough LFK bordering on DFK LOL, responsive to DATY, and I would say no matter what you read and hear from who, CIM / COF is always YMMV, but she's a chill girl and would say you should be fine. Speaks good enough English and fluent in Spanish. Has massage experience too.

She would be my suggestion.

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escorts/lucia/[/URL]

[QUOTE=GregDww;2370174]I would add that Godiva has a porn star and a nympho on their roster.

Would you like to share more info on these two lovey ladies please?[/QUOTE]Sweet Kylie is a porn star under a different name. The nympho is Lyly.

[URL]https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?185781-FRIDAY-GODIVA-SPINNER-28-SANDY-SWEET-KYLIE-katharina-jessy-LYLY-514-588-7325[/URL]

CloudSurf, that's not cool posting that link. You know that your friends there would delete a post regarding ISG and probably hand down a one month suspension to the poster.

Here is Godiva's website:

https://godivaescorts.com/

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2370373]Sweet Kylie is a porn star under a different name. The nympho is Lyly.

[URL]https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?185781-FRIDAY-GODIVA-SPINNER-28-SANDY-SWEET-KYLIE-katharina-jessy-LYLY-514-588-7325[/URL][/QUOTE]I would also categorize Sweet Kylie as a nympho.

Cheers.

I would appreciate some advice regarding duo recommendations. After looking at a lot of profiles I am leaning toward Anais and Stacy from Nadya's. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Also, is LEO List a reliable source of information. Pictures accurate etc?

Thanks very much.

[QUOTE=HardKnox;2370998]I would appreciate some advice regarding duo recommendations. After looking at a lot of profiles I am leaning toward Anais and Stacy from Nadya's. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Also, is LEO List a reliable source of information. Pictures accurate etc?

Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]LEO List is relatively more like Backpage than other advertising venues, so there are some gems but some low-end dumpster-diving chicks you want to avoid.

There aren't a lot of recent reviews of Nadya's. They once had some great providers but became the queens of photoshopping. I saw a lady from them once who was 20-30 pounds heavier than the pics.

This lady April Rose is excellent, and has many duo partners, and really performs during a duo. I had one duo with her and she is really bi and can really lead a session.

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/duos[/URL]

[QUOTE=HardKnox;2370998]I would appreciate some advice regarding duo recommendations. After looking at a lot of profiles I am leaning toward Anais and Stacy from Nadya's. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Also, is LEO List a reliable source of information. Pictures accurate etc?

Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]Emma at XO and Elly at XO is hard to beat IMO.

Luna at Euphoria and Heaven at Euphoria also fun.

Rebecca at Euphoria and Rapahelle at Euphoria is you are into bootys.

Cynthia at XO and Emma at XO is on my list because I want two girls with natural dees.

[QUOTE=GregDww;2364474]Was thinking of booking these two as the duo for my trip. From what I understand the are both pretty blondes with big breasts (one man made, the other natural). They are best friends so I think they would work well together. Any one have info on these girls? Is one much hotter than the other? Is it a waste and should just see one or the other?

WW.[/QUOTE]They both appear to be the newer millenial IG, larger bootie wanting type of french girls. Elly goes to the gym.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2369606]How is Mia Wolfe Mtl? She has twitter and website.[/QUOTE]Mia has runway height, but as everyone should agree, there's a good many runway models that facially, aren't better (actually worse) than shorter (5'4") girls you see on the street. Half Japanese, she has short straight eyebrows and just a basic look. Rides on a boyish non-perfect eurasian look.

I'm surprised her site lists as see cup, they felt like barely be to me. Body is not thin, but (last year) appeared actually to me as being in the scrawny category. Smart though, real smart nerdy personality and very chatty jesus christ. Was like talking to a dude. Boobs were sensative as fuck to my tongue.

With this girl all I have is one word for you curves. Nice man made breast and a killer ass that is very proportionate. Nice soft skin with no tattoos that I can remember. Face: So-so her nose was a little to big but her eyes are very nice. BBBJ: Above average, some gagging, sloppy and BLS. I has happy. FS: multiple positions, if your an ass man doggie is fantastic, CG was PSE and amazing. COT finish. No CIM, no COF. MSOG. I can't complain and was very satisfied. Repeat? No I'm not from Montreal so I never repeat.

[QUOTE=JaliscoState;2371240]Emma at XO and Elly at XO is hard to beat IMO.

Luna at Euphoria and Heaven at Euphoria also fun.

Rebecca at Euphoria and Rapahelle at Euphoria is you are into bootys.

Cynthia at XO and Emma at XO is on my list because I want two girls with natural dees.[/QUOTE]Lucia and Khloe at vogue. I've seen Lucia, she was awesome. Going to book Kloe and see what she's like. What do you boys recommend, seeing each participant in a duo in a single session first and then seeing how you click and then going for the duo or just belly flopping into it?

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2360902]Depending on your tastes, it is a bit of a shame about Scarlett, as she was almost the definition of a perfect body prior to her lip injections and breast enlargement. She's a very sweet girl, and seems to be a genuinely good-hearted person. However, if you follow her social media presence. She's also enormously insecure. It's unfortunate. She doesn't have to be. Alas.[/QUOTE]Joining this conversation late, sorry! I was with Scarlett earlier this year, and yes, she was very sweet, "genuinely good-hearted. " Come to think of it, very millennial too in her eagerness to be seen as respectable and successful -- she talked a lot about real estate investments with her sex work money, and is active on social media in a SJW mode for sex workers. Is this what you mean by insecure or something else?

It's a shame to hear about the surgical enhancements. Sounds like typical sex worker (porn star, stripper) alterations. They all do this, I'm not sure why, aiming for some Jessica Rabbit sexpot "party girl" ideal, when most guys I know want more natural. If she was going to pay for surgery, I might have recommended a fix to her one eye. It's a quirk that it's obvious, but it also adds some charm to her face, like Jennifer Grey's nose or Renee Zellweger's eye hoods.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2371751]Come to think of it, very millennial too in her eagerness to be seen as respectable and successful -- she talked a lot about real estate investments with her sex work money, and is active on social media in a SJW mode for sex workers. Is this what you mean by insecure or something else?[/QUOTE]I know many beautiful, confident professional women. When you get to be friends with them, you realize many of them are very self-conscious and insecure about their looks. This is particularly true for women in sales or who deal with the public in their roles. They're always thinking some sharp, younger woman is going to come along and displace them.

That's what I thought people were talking about with Scarlett.

It's very likely this is grounded more in reality than insecurity. It's like the person at work that says "people don't like me here". Your co-worker tells her "you're paranoid." You think to yourself. It's true people don't like her so she's not really paranoid.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2371751]Joining this conversation late, sorry! I was with Scarlett earlier this year, and yes, she was very sweet, "genuinely good-hearted. " Come to think of it, very millennial too in her eagerness to be seen as respectable and successful -- she talked a lot about real estate investments with her sex work money, and is active on social media in a SJW mode for sex workers. Is this what you mean by insecure or something else?

It's a shame to hear about the surgical enhancements. Sounds like typical sex worker (porn star, stripper) alterations. They all do this, I'm not sure why, aiming for some Jessica Rabbit sexpot "party girl" ideal, when most guys I know want more natural. If she was going to pay for surgery, I might have recommended a fix to her one eye. It's a quirk that it's obvious, but it also adds some charm to her face, like Jennifer Grey's nose or Renee Zellweger's eye hoods.[/QUOTE]She's also seemingly got jaw implants. Her photos from earlier this year and now are all very different. It's plain to see. This is subjective, but to me it makes her look less feminine.

Anyway, as for insecurity. We all have our insecurities. I watched a few of her livestreams where she came across as very desperate for love (not romantic love, but more like caring). I don't know what happened in her personal life, but one suspects she's been rejected a lot, maybe by people close to her. I don't know. Maybe it led her to do some of the surgeries. It also doesn't much matter on this end of things. But in any case. She's a delicate person, though as you said. Very goal and success oriented.

Anyone intel on Kim, Selena, and is Luna the former Indy who had sketchy history of flaking out on appointments? Luna is already starting at $240/ hour.

Field reports would be appreciated instead of psychoanalysis on SP's.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2371843]Anyone intel on Kim, Selena, and is Luna the former Indy who had sketchy history of flaking out on appointments? Luna is already starting at $240/ hour.

Field reports would be appreciated instead of psychoanalysis on SP's.[/QUOTE]Chubzy,

Its not the same Luna. Since you appear to like Arab girls try Amira if you like her body type. Many more who are good looking and offer amazing service including CIM. Laura, Claudia, Elie, Effy, Kloe, Eve etc. Unfortunately I haven't had time to see any new Vog girls recently because I've been very busy repeating with 3 Indies.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2371843]
Field reports would be appreciated instead of psychoanalysis on SP's.[/QUOTE]Yes, this forum is just so active, one might miss a field report!

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2371877]Chubzy,

Its not the same Luna. Since you appear to like Arab girls try Amira if you like her body type. Many more who are good looking and offer amazing service including CIM. Laura, Claudia, Elie, Effy, Kloe, Eve etc. Unfortunately I haven't had time to see any new Vog girls recently because I've been very busy repeating with 3 Indies.[/QUOTE]She (Luna) is starting at $240/ hour cloudy, what is up with that? Transfer from another agency or classified intel?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2371824]I know many beautiful, confident professional women. When you get to be friends with them, you realize many of them are very self-conscious and insecure about their looks. This is particularly true for women in sales or who deal with the public in their roles. They're always thinking some sharp, younger woman is going to come along and displace them.

That's what I thought people were talking about with Scarlett.

It's very likely this is grounded more in reality than insecurity. It's like the person at work that says "people don't like me here". Your co-worker tells her "you're paranoid." You think to yourself. It's true people don't like her so she's not really paranoid.[/QUOTE]Ah, got it. The Montreal sex worker scene is unusual though, they seem much more supportive and friendly to one another than the cattiness you see, say, among strippers in any random club.

But that may be just the culture here, and in reality, they're all at each others' throats all the same.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2371825] I watched a few of her livestreams where she came across as very desperate for love (not romantic love, but more like caring). I don't know what happened in her personal life, but one suspects she's been rejected a lot, maybe by people close to her. [/QUOTE]Sex work can be a brutally unforgiving business. You're evaluated pretty much like a piece of meat -- is the flesh firm in the right spots, does it have the appropriate amount of fat, is it the right shade of pink? If not, toss it out and find another. It's not a surprise that one should seek more caring. Many of the women in the sex business lack for that parental caring -- foster kids, women with daddy issues.

All I can do is confirm everything has posted in the past. Beautiful girl. Perfect body tits and ass go well with her frame with a pretty face and DSLs to boot. Has a new tattoo on her forearm for the vets that have seem her before. Saw her at a downtown condo today.

Body 9/10.

Face 9/10.

Service 8/10.

Highlights.

BBBJ: DT till my cock hit the back of her throat and licked my balls.

Pussy: beautiful, tiny, taste amazing, and tight.

Repeat. From the states. Never do.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2371751]Joining this conversation late, sorry! I was with Scarlett earlier this year, and yes, she was very sweet, "genuinely good-hearted. " Come to think of it, very millennial too in her eagerness to be seen as respectable and successful -- she talked a lot about real estate investments with her sex work money, and is active on social media in a SJW mode for sex workers. Is this what you mean by insecure or something else?[/QUOTE]I've actually been trying to find out for awhile with no success, but what is Scarlett's Twitter?

Been chasing this one for a while. Anytime I would be able to make it too Montreal she was booked or not working. This time it worked out. So here we go.

Body 8/10.

Face 7/10.

Service 7.5/10.

The body was beautiful, nice man made breast very little body fat, long nice legs, and and a nice ass that went along nicely. The reason I gave it a 8 is that it's not as tight as most girls (looks to be 30 y / o).

Face: amazing lips, pretty but didn't like the fake eyebrows and she didn't look fresh and youthful. A more mature look.

Service I can't complain BBBJ was very nice. DT, eye contact, full service was just fine. Only complaint was there wasn't much kissing. Very little LFK. CIM was extra so I decided to finish on her tits.

Repeat. Never do.

[QUOTE=StevenMazza;2372266]All I can do is confirm everything has posted in the past. Beautiful girl. Perfect body tits and ass go well with her frame with a pretty face and DSLs to boot.[/QUOTE]What is your take on Amanda's affection? Some recent comments have suggested that she's not a great kisser. Some LFK. Some seem to indicate her being cool with some clients.

I shied away from her on a recent trip because someone else more intriguing was available.

Don't get me wrong. There is something about a beauty with a great body that knows how to use it. She is also supposedly great with her mouth.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2372572]What is your take on Amanda's affection? Some recent comments have suggested that she's not a great kisser. Some LFK. Some seem to indicate her being cool with some clients.

I shied away from her on a recent trip because someone else more intriguing was available.

Don't get me wrong. There is something about a beauty with a great body that knows how to use it. She is also supposedly great with her mouth.[/QUOTE]I found her alright. She's a nice person, but all I got was very light LFK. Very light. I get DFK with almost everyone else. She was cool to start with because I am on the younger side, she thought one of her friends was playing a trick on her and had sent me to see her for some reason or another. Anyway, she was a bit paranoid about that for the first bit (which may explain the LFK. Don't know). I didn't find her BBBJ anything to write home about. It was good, but nothing unique or unusual. When I saw her she was not freshly shaen and had some stubble, which took away some DATY enjoyment. Though fair enough, you can't necessarily shave there every day.

[QUOTE=PogoHunter3222;2372512]I've actually been trying to find out for awhile with no success, but what is Scarlett's Twitter?[/QUOTE]Sorry man, you have three total posts. Two of them are questions. One is a thank you.

[QUOTE=PogoHunter3222;2372512]I've actually been trying to find out for awhile with no success, but what is Scarlett's Twitter?[/QUOTE]The reason Scarlett's twitter is not posted publicly is because it is under her webcam persona, and she travels to the USA Regularly as a webcam lady.

USA Border patrol denies entry for a visitor into the USA When they have reasonable proof that a lady works as an escort in a foreign country. There is an actual law allowing them to do this, which is ridiculous.

So it is important that her webcam persona (and associated webcam twitter) not be posted in conjunction with her escort persona. The local review board is careful about this, and we should be, also.

If you were a senior member, someone would likely share it with you.

She is a stunningly beautiful lady who delivers excellent performance.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2372683]The reason Scarlett's twitter is not posted publicly is because it is under her webcam persona, and she travels to the USA Regularly as a webcam lady.

USA Border patrol denies entry for a visitor into the USA When they have reasonable proof that a lady works as an escort in a foreign country. There is an actual law allowing them to do this, which is ridiculous.

So it is important that her webcam persona (and associated webcam twitter) not be posted in conjunction with her escort persona. The local review board is careful about this, and we should be, also.

If you were a senior member, someone would likely share it with you.

She is a stunningly beautiful lady who delivers excellent performance.[/QUOTE]Thanks for chiming in. I felt a little jerky for being so guarded, but I'm glad you took the time to explain this. I did not know it, and I now feel better about my guardedness!

Discussion on the green seems like there is a decline of DFK among the agencies. Furthermore, I would say many reilviewers are claiming DFK as LFK for reasons unknown or simply confused on what True DFK is.

Casey Euphoria Review.

Looks: 8 Quebecoise cutie. Solid body.

Attitude: 7.5 Nice lady. A bit laid back. Talked about things I didn't care about without prompting. If you've seen her you know. LOL.

Service: 7.25 LFK. Initiated DFK twice. Dominant BLS. Decent BBJ. Don't think she digs too much eye contact during sex, though still pretty good.

Repeat: No.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2372734]Discussion on the green seems like there is a decline of DFK among the agencies. Furthermore, I would say many reilviewers are claiming DFK as LFK for reasons unknown or simply confused on what True DFK is.[/QUOTE]Some men are simply fucking up the marketplace. Internet reviews were the great game changer twenty years ago. Offer mediocre service and word gets around fairly quickly.

I will use the example of tall, curvy beauty Valerie in Toronto. I think she came on the scene several months back. Reviews were very average if not downright weak. She made a course correction and men are noticing a big change in service.

[URL]http://mirage-entertainment.cc/escort/valerie/[/URL]

If the Montreal men are going to run around covering for average performance, these lackeys might get preferential treatment in the very short-run. Sooner or later, they're going to create an escort scene that resembles the Western provinces.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2372913]
If the Montreal men are going to run around covering for average performance, these lackeys might get preferential treatment in the very short-run. Sooner or later, they're going to create an escort scene that resembles the Western provinces.[/QUOTE]Haven't they been doing this for a while? I'm sure when a guy reads the reviews and doesn't get the same treatment or see the same 8/9 beauty they brush it off as you didn't have a "connection" or beauty is subjective BS on that board. There are a lot of ladies that are no better than a starfish in montreal. I've had better luck w / ladies that weren't constantly reviewed about on that board.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2372734]Discussion on the green seems like there is a decline of DFK among the agencies. Furthermore, I would say many reilviewers are claiming DFK as LFK for reasons unknown or simply confused on what True DFK is.[/QUOTE]There is definitely confusion around the terms DFK and LFK.

One case illustrates this well. In Amanda's 12 page review thread on the local board multiple guys mention having had DFK with her, including 3 just in the first page.

Yet Amanda states that she dislikes DFK and has never done it including with her boyfriends. Her definition of DFK is tongue thrusting and tonsil tickling. My definition is much less aggressive. Kissing for more than a few seconds with sensual and even passionate tongue touching. She admitted that she does participate in LFK if the guy smells clean and doesn't have bad breath.

For me the definition are: no tongue = lite kissing.

Long kisses with tongue caresses = passionate kissing.

Tongue thrusting = I don't participate but if she has a 5" tongue I'the rather she put it to better use, like licking my balls while giving me a BJ.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2372913]
I will use the example of tall, curvy beauty Valerie in Toronto. I think she came on the scene several months back. Reviews were very average if not downright weak. She made a course correction and men are noticing a big change in service.
[/QUOTE]What kind of correction did she made? Can you elaborate on that? Does she provide passionate DFK? I checked out the Mirage website. It didn't say anything about GFE service. It only mentions companionship when I clicked on the Escorts under the service menu. It looks like one of those US Escort websites which are mostly ripped off. What's going on there in Toronto? These ladies offer in call only? It does not mention any specific acronym like DFK, Greek, CIM like those in many Montreal escort websites. Am I missing something here? I'm not familiar with the Toronto scene.

Hey fellas,

First time poster here. I've definitely looked over what people have posted and wanted to thank everyone for their reviews.

Saw Sasha Johansen this past Monday at her incall location. Very easy to set up. She was amazing. So easy to talk to, very sexy, educated and gorgeous. We went over what I wanted to do and she had a lot of fun with it. Lots of long kissing, very sensual, great chemistry, great BBBJ, DATY, 69, and a variety of positions. The talking between rounds was great, very much a GFE experience, but a bit dirtier. Personally I'm more on the sensual side so this was great for me. I didn't ask about extras so I don't know what more she offers. I don't think the photos on her site do her justice. My opinions:

Body 9/10.

Face 9/10.

Service 9/10.

A little on the more expensive side but totally worth it for what I was looking for.

Would definitely repeat.

Second time I saw Mandy, last time was 2.5 years ago. I remembered her being amazing and so I tried to repeat and was lucky enough to get her.

She doesn't work much these days and my sense is that she will continue to work less and less.

She's a spinner, has such a cute face and is a totally sweetheart. So easy going, just wants everyone to be happy and have a good time. Very relaxed and casual, not a clock-watcher. Her hair color changes a lot but I got her as a blonde, which is what I like. She had extensions but I liked them, actually. She's a small package but with a lot of energy.

She brought some lingerie per my request and kept it on throughout, which made me very happy. Lots of sensual kissing.

BBBJ and when I asked if I could come in her mouth she said, "as you wish", with a smile. She just kept working it, swallowed and looked at me with another gorgeous smile.

Cuddling and easy chatting in between, like we were old friends. I cannot stress how easy-going she is.

Round 2 was great and then we chatted some more. I have her some extra as a tip and she was so grateful and acted like I didn't need to, but she definitely earned it!

Body 9/10.

Face 8/10.

Service 9/10.

I would definitely repeat if I could get her again. She mentioned that she likes threesomes so that would be my next attempt!

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2372921]There is definitely confusion around the terms DFK and LFK.[/QUOTE]I would not say confusion. I would say amplification If one is to write he gave 4 o's to the girl he is sure going to brag about getting DFK even if they barely kissed.

I have written a lot of review. Only my positive session I confess. But in those I never bragged about something I did not get.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2372913]If the Montreal men are going to run around covering for average performance, these lackeys might get preferential treatment in the very short-run. Sooner or later, they're going to create an escort scene that resembles the Western provinces.[/QUOTE]See my reply above. The worst is there is no preferential treatment. I would know if there was. Those who get preferential treatment are the guys who spend a shitload on the girls. That's it.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2373235]I would not say confusion. I would say amplification If one is to write he gave 4 o's to the girl he is sure going to brag about getting DFK even if they barely kissed.[/QUOTE]Girls can fake an orgasm but not DFK.

Many girls fake orgasms especially if the guy is inexperienced.

Many guys confuse light sensual kissing with more passionate kissing. Me included.

Most DFK is really LFK with a bit of tongue. These days I try to avoid those terms.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2373373]Girls can fake an orgasm but not DFK.

Many girls fake orgasms especially if the guy is inexperienced.[/QUOTE]Some of the inexperienced girls fake too hard. I'm sure new, young girls have chats with experienced providers. The experienced providers surely tell them to act like you're enjoying it whether or not you do. The young girls can be over the top with the fake orgasms.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2373063]What kind of correction did she made? Can you elaborate on that? Does she provide passionate DFK? I checked out the Mirage website. It didn't say anything about GFE service. It only mentions companionship when I clicked on the Escorts under the service menu. It looks like one of those US Escort websites which are mostly ripped off. What's going on there in Toronto? These ladies offer in call only? It does not mention any specific acronym like DFK, Greek, CIM like those in many Montreal escort websites. Am I missing something here? I'm not familiar with the Toronto scene.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry you sound like such a newb. Where are you seeing service acronyms listed on an agency website? You might come across an independent who breaks out such details, but rarely if ever an agency. The agencies can't be so bold in their on-line marketing.

Valerie at Mirage is a very attractive woman who offered very variable service several months back. It's the usual thing. Dispassionate kissing and presence. Seemed like she didn't want to be there. CBJ for some guys. Now Valerie seems to have upped her game. She kisses DKF, but as we know this is not guaranteed. Only when a provider establishes herself as a DFK queen can you be confident it will be offered.

You should ask any further Toronto questions on the Toronto thread.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2373645]Some of the inexperienced girls fake too hard. I'm sure new, young girls have chats with experienced providers. The experienced providers surely tell them to act like you're enjoying it whether or not you do. The young girls can be over the top with the fake orgasms.[/QUOTE]More than one girl has no idea if she ever had a real orgasm. They think that they have to squirt to achieve an orgasm. But luckily they are in the minority.

There are absolute ways to tell if she has an orgasm. Like pussy contractions, body convulsions, her screaming don't stop I'm close etc.

[QUOTE=BostonBound;2373069]
Saw Sasha Johansen this past Monday at her incall location. Very easy to set up. She was amazing. So easy to talk to, very sexy, educated and gorgeous. We went over what I wanted to do and she had a lot of fun with it. Lots of long kissing, very sensual, great chemistry, great BBBJ, DATY, 69, and a variety of positions. The talking between rounds was great, very much a GFE experience, but a bit dirtier. Personally I'm more on the sensual side so this was great for me. I didn't ask about extras so I don't know what more she offers. I don't think the photos on her site do her justice. My opinions:

Body 9/10.

Face 9/10.

Service 9/10.

A little on the more expensive side but totally worth it for what I was looking for.

Would definitely repeat.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the two excellent reports.

Sasha is probably my favorite hour appointment anywhere.

BostonBound -thank you for your reviews. Mandy seems to have some mixed reviews. I see some guys raving about her and others more blase. I saw her 2 years ago and she couldn't stop complaining about everything I did. It was not a pleasant experience. And yet I know guys who had a bad experience with her and then tried her again and she was great. I guess her mood plays a big part in her performance.

Sasha sounds intriguing. You mentioned she was easy to book. Did she require other SP references or a deposit before you met her?

[QUOTE=TNewton;2373706]BostonBound -thank you for your reviews. Mandy seems to have some mixed reviews. I see some guys raving about her and others more blase. I saw her 2 years ago and she couldn't stop complaining about everything I did. It was not a pleasant experience. And yet I know guys who had a bad experience with her and then tried her again and she was great. I guess her mood plays a big part in her performance.

Sasha sounds intriguing. You mentioned she was easy to book. Did she require other SP references or a deposit before you met her?[/QUOTE]I had similar experience as you with Mandy. Great beautiful girl. She was not even moody or anything. She was fantastic until she realized I was a tough cookie (sometimes I can have endurance haha). So she gave up on me. Never came and she left without a word. Too bad as she's beautiful.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2373700]Thanks for the two excellent reports.

Sasha is probably my favorite hour appointment anywhere.[/QUOTE]Here are Sasha's links. Like a lot of Montreal providers, if you follow her on twitter, you are rewarded with great pics.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/MissSashaJo[/URL]

[URL]https://sashajohansen.com/[/URL]

Has anyone considering using Airbnb in Montreal? Thoughts?

I saw Lydhia back in early August on a Saturday. Booking was relatively smooth despite the language barrier. She was writing in French and was not able to answer all my questions, but with the help of Googletranslate we made it work.

She gave me her address and picked me up downstairs when I arrived.

Location: 5/10.

A little further away. Not downtown MTL, but in Verdun. She mentioned she is staying at a friend's place. Easy enough to find and seems like a safe neighbourhood. I took an Uber so not sure about parking space. The building is not the newest, but her place was a decent and tidy one-bedroom apartment.

Appearance: 5/10.

Ldyhia has a GND face, which is cute but not what I usually go for. Could I imagine talking her up in a bar? Maybe. Would she make my head turn if I walked past her on the street? Definitively not. To be fair, she is going through some stuff in her life and taking care of her appearance is likely not her top priority right now. She wasn't wearing makeup and her probably had a bad hair day too.

The same applies to her body. Not fit, not curvy, not a spinner. Somewhere in the middle of all that. Although I must admit she had a firm and yet soft butt.

Service: 7/10.

I only wanted a BJ, and I got what I came for. (BBBJ / CIM) It was good but not spectacular, but that was mostly due to me being a bit nervous. I am sure with a more time and chemistry this can be improved easily. Lydhia tried to kiss me, but I declined. She also offered me some sparkling wine which we shared before and after our session.

Attitude: 9/10.

Despite not having a common language, we had a good conversation afterwards. She told me a bit of her current struggles and we lay in bed for a good 10-15 minutes.

Personality: 9/10.

Even though this encounter was not the most memorable one and I cannot really imagine going for a repeat, Lydhia simply struck me as a genuine and nice person. I sincerely hope she overcomes her challenges soon and gets to enjoy life a bit more. She is easy to get along with and has a great personalty and attitude.

That's it for my first review. Enjoy.

P.S. I am new to the city. So if you have any advise or tips please PM me. (My type is spinner / skinny, ideally 90 lbs or under). Thank you in advance!

Hello!

After hearing so many great things about Canada, I'll finally have a chance to visit Montreal! I would like to get some recommendation for hotels. I am hoping to not have a car and use metro / taxi / Uber to visit incalls, massage parlors, and also have outcalls to my hotel. I've looked around and searched the forum, but can't seem to be able to find the info easily. Can anyone recommend me some good mid-range hotels for the location and activity?

Much appreciated!

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2374280]Has anyone considering using Airbnb in Montreal? Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Airbnb in Montreal is fine. Same general rules apply as anywhere. Look at the photos. Read the reviews. If you're doing outcall, find one of the many apartments / condos in large buildings where the owner or their neighbors won't monitor your guests.

[QUOTE=Mander;2374543]Hello!

After hearing so many great things about Canada, I'll finally have a chance to visit Montreal! I would like to get some recommendation for hotels. I am hoping to not have a car and use metro / taxi / Uber to visit incalls, massage parlors, and also have outcalls to my hotel. I've looked around and searched the forum, but can't seem to be able to find the info easily. Can anyone recommend me some good mid-range hotels for the location and activity?

Much appreciated![/QUOTE]All Montreal hotels are Girl-friendly, so you can stay in any hotel (or Airbnb as the previous poster inquired about).

Since I have had enough loyalty points to book rooms for free, I have always personally liked this place, that used to be a Hyatt, but is now a Doubletree.

[URL]https://doubletree3.hilton.com/en/hotels/quebec/doubletree-by-hilton-montreal-YMQDTDT/index.html?SEO_id=GMB-DT-YMQDTDT[/URL]

Once you walk out the door, you are in between the two major streets where the good restaurants and shops are at, it is near two major metro stations, walking distance from the 747 airport bus stop, and near Old Town and the place I rent a bike from.

But if you don't have loyalty points, there are plenty of mid-range hotels within a two or three mile radius of this type of hotel. I remember staying at the LE'Apartment Hotel for a good price, and it was fine.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2374549].
Since I have had enough loyalty points to book rooms for free, I have always personally liked this place, that used to be a Hyatt, but is now a Doubletree.
[/QUOTE]Appreciate your recommendations. Are they also close to incall location for popular escort services? I am getting the vibe that you don't really do incalls, but outcalls mostly. I am looking for a location close to escort incalls, strip clubs, massage parlors, etc of adult entertainments.

[QUOTE=Mander;2374616]Appreciate your recommendations. Are they also close to incall location for popular escort services? I am getting the vibe that you don't really do incalls, but outcalls mostly. I am looking for a location close to escort incalls, strip clubs, massage parlors, etc of adult entertainments.[/QUOTE]There is only 3 incall agency besides MP's. Euphoria is walking distance from downtown. XO is 6 subway stations away. Velvet is also 6 subway stations away. All 3 very easy to reach. All 3 with great incall. My favorite is Velvet as I love the Mont-Royal area where they are located.

I do not know where the MP's are located as I do not go there. But I do think most are a bit out of downtown.

You should consider do outcal. Really I don't do it often as I live in the suburb of Montreal but when I do nothing beats that.

[QUOTE=Mander;2374616]Appreciate your recommendations. Are they also close to incall location for popular escort services? I am getting the vibe that you don't really do incalls, but outcalls mostly. I am looking for a location close to escort incalls, strip clubs, massage parlors, etc of adult entertainments.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am more of an outcall guy, so hopefully others can help.

The Doubletree is close to the incall used by some independents who used to be affiliated with the Unicorn Agency.

And the Doubletree is pretty far from Velvet Love's incall, I believe, which is somewhere in the Mont Royal area, I think.

Montreal doesn't have a Red Light District, and all the places are fairly spread out, so if you insist on incall at a variety of places, I don't believe there is a perfect hotel. But it isn't a huge city, and Uber is active, and the Metro is convenient, so exploring the different neighborhoods should be fun.

[QUOTE=Mander;2374616]Appreciate your recommendations. Are they also close to incall location for popular escort services? I am getting the vibe that you don't really do incalls, but outcalls mostly. I am looking for a location close to escort incalls, strip clubs, massage parlors, etc of adult entertainments.[/QUOTE]You are overthinking this. If you stay near the orange line or green line, you will be fine. If you are looking for a hotel or an Airbnb in a apt / condo building, the area around where the orange line and green line parallel is great for everything including getting places fast. The Guy-Concordia area a ton of good and affordable restaurants.

I also like hanging out in Le Plateau. It's problematic to stay here for my outcalls because it isn't a district with hotels or large residential buildings. Your host in this neighborhood would likely live nearby and / or their neighbors would see your young, hot guests coming and going.

If you preferred staying in the Le Plateau/Latin Quarter area, the only incall I have heard of here is VelvetLove. You can always take the orange line downtown. Regardless where you stay, I would definitely recommend getting a multi-day metro pass.

Thanks for all the great replies. So I will base my hotel on public transportations and restaurants / entertainments.

Anyone have any thoughts on LE Chabrol Hotel? The room looks amazing with in-suite jacuzzi and mirrored ceilings with cheap rates. It looks a bit away from the downtown, however.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2374631]XO is 6 subway stations away. [/QUOTE]Small nitpicky correction: XO is 2 stations away, 3 maximum. Not 6.

[QUOTE=Mander;2374858]Thanks for all the great replies. So I will base my hotel on public transportations and restaurants / entertainments.

Anyone have any thoughts on LE Chabrol Hotel? The room looks amazing with in-suite jacuzzi and mirrored ceilings with cheap rates. It looks a bit away from the downtown, however.[/QUOTE]Chabrol is in my opinion a bit too far west. Plus traffic is a nightmare in that area. I would not be surprise agency hesitating to go down in rush hour. The only positive would be the proximity to Indy Cherry who is just hundred of meters away.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2374884]Small nitpicky correction: XO is 2 stations away, 3 maximum. Not 6.[/QUOTE]Oups yes correct! Thanks. I had Berri station in mind. XO is 2 or 3 stations away. Hey I have walk from downtown to XO many times.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2374929]Chabrol is in my opinion a bit too far west. Plus traffic is a nightmare in that area. I would not be surprise agency hesitating to go down in rush hour. The only positive would be the proximity to Indy Cherry who is just hundred of meters away.[/QUOTE]What about Hotel Le Charblis Cadillac? It's near Cadillac station and the room looks fantastic with mirrored ceilings, jacuzzi, and stripper poles! Would this location be any problem getting outcalls?

I am considering splitting my stay with normal hotels close to downtown, then booking 1-2 nights at more of an exotic hotel/motels. I would really like an in-suite jaccuzi and can’t seem to find one near downtown that doesn’t cost arm and legs!

One continuous question on ISG is which Montreal agency ladies have pictures, ideally full or partial face pics.

We are starting to see a bit more of that with some agency ladies.

Blair of Euphoria has a twitter feed where she is very generous with face and body pics.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/blair_euphoria[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/blair[/URL]

I am going to take the liberty of copying over a review of Blair from one of the best reviewers on merb. I don't think he will mind. This isn't my review, but a review from a very trusted reviewer.

"Blair looks like a French lady in one of those classic Humphrey Bogart movies -- Casablanca comes in mind.

Blair is sexy and sensual and her current photos don't capture those qualities. She said she walks around naked at home and loves to look at herself in the mirrors and during sex.

Blair is dynamite. I had a wonderful, exhausting session with her. We were both sweating (even thought the AC was operating at full speed).

When we began, Blair asked what I like. I said I like to go with the flow.

LFK's turned into passionate DFK's and lots of DFK's throughout the entire rendezvous.

Blair loves sex and she engages in it passionately! She said she believes she had her first orgasm when she was in elementary school.

While Blair likes it hard, she can modulate herself to (and your) my tempo. We went at it hard. I was able to help her achieve O's by pinching her nipples -- the experience is simply divine. Her lovely Kitty is very responsive and it can take some hard stuff. DATY was delightful and yep, she moves around a lot and the pleasure for me was to stay with it as she closed her tights against my head.

Digits were delightful and repeated often. She gets wet quickly.

Junior is delicate and I asked her to be gentle with him during multiple BBBJ's and she performed admirably getting Junior hard each time.

I had Blair ride Junior first, CG. Damn! She rode Junior well -- she got Junior deep inside her Kitty and began rubbing her clit with her fingers and rubbing her clit against my abdomen. Pinching her nipples heightened her O's!

Round two. Doggy. It was nice for both of us. It was so cool for her to turn around to look at me while I'm pounding away at her.

Then Missionary. Delightful.

Blair is poised to become a superstar. She said she will start working more. She offers Greek and CIMSW for extra $$ ".

Blair is good friends with Lola at Euphoria. Blair said she would love to do a duo with Lola. Gents -- you may want to treat yourself to a duo with these two dynamite ladies. ".

Of course as mentioned in this review, Lola the Brat is the Euphoria lady most active on Twitter and she has received fantastic reviews on merb and on ISG for her looks and services.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/lolathebrat[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/lola[/URL]

The lady on xo with the most prolific twitter feed under her agency name is Nala Baez.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/NalaBaez[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/nala/[/URL]

As with Blair, I am going to take the liberty of copying and pasting one of Nala's merb reviews from a very trusted reviewer to provide a detail of Nala's services. I think that reviewer is active on ISG, also. Not my review, but a review from someone else who is a very good reviewer.

"NALA. Pics and description are accurate. Spinner type-petite all natural busty babe with beautiful 32 DD, dark blond, short hair. Oufff. Look Mediterranean. If you are in spinner you can't ask for more.

As soon I enter she receives me with deep and hot DFK. From there I knew I would have good time. She asked me to proceed in the shower before seing her in the bed. Where she was waiting for me in a nice white lingerie.

I asked her to come near me standing on the wall in front the little miror. And again passionnate and hot DFK. I told her I could spent all the hour just kissing her. Sooo good. So if you like kissing NALA is there for you. She enjoys a lot.

And she decided to honour Mr. Johnson with a long and délicieux BBBJ. Was looking at her in the miror. OMG her BBBJ skills are just wow. And she kept looking at me. Houha. Was about to explose. Told her was time to please her.

Went in the bed and she offers me to taste her SOFT big boobs. She will show you how she likes it. While playing with her pussy. Nice moment. After I asked her if she was ready for the plat principal and she said yes. So I proceeded to my favorite meal. A long, long and succulent DATY-DIGITS.

For at least 30 min. She really enjoyed it. After she asked me if I was ready for the condom. With 5 min. Left I just asked her to tease me with kisses. And I came with a big big smile.

Nala is non clock watcher at all. No tats and piercings. Very very clean. Speaks fluently french and English. But please guys handle with care. And NALA will deliver.

First time with this agency. Again thanks to. For a smooth booking. The incall location is nice and clean.

Thanks NALA for a lovely and warm afternoon.

And important she told me she will work almost every day this week. So you know what to do before Christmas!

Hopefully this gives three good leads to the ISG posters, primarily guys who prefer the "club scene" worldwide and want to see more detailed pics before booking. Twitter and reviews give a lot of great information.

[QUOTE=Mander;2376056]What about Hotel Le Charblis Cadillac? It's near Cadillac station and the room looks fantastic with mirrored ceilings, jacuzzi, and stripper poles! Would this location be any problem getting outcalls?

I am considering splitting my stay with normal hotels close to downtown, then booking 1-2 nights at more of an exotic hotel/motels. I would really like an in-suite jaccuzi and cant seem to find one near downtown that doesnt cost arm and legs![/QUOTE]Well Chablis is a bit better then Chabrol but still I would honestly avoid. It's a well known motel for average indy in Montreal Others here may say differently I do not know but if I were a outsider I would strictly focused on downtown hotel.

Cheers.

Claudia at Godiva.

Met with Claudia at Godiva. She is tall and athletic. Fair amount of ink, that's photo shopped in agency's pictures for privacy. Claudia said she's relatively new to Godiva, but not to the industry (didn't ask any details, however). Her face is GND, and she might be a smoker, if that's important. Claudia was eager to please. If you like a tall, edgy SP, she may fit the bill.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Rebeka Vog.

Met with Rebeka at Vog. She is a Quebecoise and pretty much French only. Rebeka is a quintessential spinner in her mid 20's (I'm guessing). Cute face, tight body, and tanned skin. Her hair was more tomato color than natural red, and it fit her well with edgy look. Could not tell if she's a smoker. Her oral skills have some room for improvement. But besides that, overall good time.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Tania Euphoria.

Met with Tania at Euphoria's condo. She was down to earth and easy going. GND face and curves at the right places. Tania is not a spinner, but by no means fat. Tania was eager to please and we had a nice time together.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2376291]One continuous question on ISG is which Montreal agency ladies have pictures, ideally full or partial face pics.

We are starting to see a bit more of that with some agency ladies.

Blair of Euphoria has a twitter feed where she is very generous with face and body pics.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/blair_euphoria[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/blair[/URL]

I am going to take the liberty of copying over a review of Blair from one of the best reviewers on merb. I don't think he will mind. This isn't my review, but a review from a very trusted reviewer..[/QUOTE]Hey boss,

Your post are gold in terms of the info they crank out, and you crank it out selflessly. I think in other forums you do a service to others by providing a translation / copying and pasting of many reviews found on local forums and giving analysis of the provider and reviewer.

I do not think though this would be a good idea here on the Montreal forum. It's more than apparent (at least to me) that a lot of guys on the green board read our forum, but don't contribute. I would encourage them to come post their reviews instead of copying and pasting. Invite them to contribute here in this community. Deathman is right, we need more activity, more new comers, not just guys who get banned from the green board and need a place to hang for a few weeks, LOL. We need more Jal's and Cloudys. Copying and pasting is not a good idea. Plenty of guys on merb who read this and can easily sign up and comment.

Thanks and good points. You are likely correct, and I won't copy and paste as much for Montreal since no English translations are needed.

Just trying to identify a few agency ladies worth seeing that are liberal with pictures, primarily on a Twitter. Since so many ISG guys come from environments where they think they must see the lady before booking her.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2376371]Hey boss,

Your post are gold in terms of the info they crank out, and you crank it out selflessly. I think in other forums you do a service to others by providing a translation / copying and pasting of many reviews found on local forums and giving analysis of the provider and reviewer.

I do not think though this would be a good idea here on the Montreal forum. It's more than apparent (at least to me) that a lot of guys on the green board read our forum, but don't contribute. I would encourage them to come post their reviews instead of copying and pasting. Invite them to contribute here in this community. Deathman is right, we need more activity, more new comers, not just guys who get banned from the green board and need a place to hang for a few weeks, LOL. We need more Jal's and Cloudys. Copying and pasting is not a good idea. Plenty of guys on merb who read this and can easily sign up and comment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2376518]Since so many ISG guys come from environments where they think they must see the lady before booking her.[/QUOTE]There is something exciting about being surrounded by young women and selecting one who hits your eye. In these "environments", I don't pick the most beautiful woman. The interaction with a woman beforehand is every bit as important.

I have to say generally I have been happy with the appearance of escorts that I have had to select blindly, but I have put the time into research. While I do feel a sense of excitement when an escort comes to the door, it is usually quite fleeting.

I have a question is the Toronto and Montreal spa scene conducive to walking up and selecting a girl from a line-up or do you generally make appointments. I get the impression in Montreal you have to negotiate full service and other extras. In Toronto, the full-service spas seem to offer full service pricing with the exception of some extras.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2376518]Thanks and good points. You are likely correct, and I won't copy and paste as much for Montreal since no English translations are needed.

Just trying to identify a few agency ladies worth seeing that are liberal with pictures, primarily on a Twitter. Since so many ISG guys come from environments where they think they must see the lady before booking her.[/QUOTE]The list is a good idea for sure. Speaking for myself, I just think it's a bad idea to harvest from the green board for transplant here on ISG. I don't know others could prob way in.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2376572]There is something exciting about being surrounded by young women and selecting one who hits your eye. In these "environments", I don't pick the most beautiful woman. The interaction with a woman beforehand is every bit as important..[/QUOTE]I agree totally and the next best thing is social media. Pm's on the local board or DM's on twitter.

I was chatting with LOLATHEBRAT when she only had one review and was barely known. We chatted by pm for a couple of weeks and when I finally met her I was already in love with her very naughty and kinky mind. Now I'm flirting with her friend Blair on twitter and she is even naughtier than Lola. Another one of their friends you guys should look at on twitter is Angelika Bunni. More curvy than Blair but just as naughty and not afraid to stick her pink pussy into a selfie.

The Ottawa private massage spa's have bars where you can chat up the girls before picking one. It's not full service though. Everything but penetration. Most of the girls are on twitter and some of their vids are damn sexy.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2376658]The list is a good idea for sure. Speaking for myself, I just think it's a bad idea to harvest from the green board for transplant here on ISG. I don't know others could prob way in.[/QUOTE]I think copying and pasting reviews from another forum is bad form. I concur with ChubzyMax. Encourage people to participate here. Jalimon, cloudsurf and others have come here and still participate in both. Whether they are conscious of it or not, I find them more interesting here. Thanks guys.

Full disclosure: I'm one of the banned so of course I'm biased. However, I was not a refugee seeking asylum here. I've been active on ISG for many years.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2376665]I agree totally and the next best thing is social media. Pm's on the local board or DM's on twitter.

I was chatting with LOLATHEBRAT when she only had one review and was barely known. We chatted by pm for a couple of weeks and when I finally met her I was already in love with her very naughty and kinky mind. Now I'm flirting with her friend Blair on twitter and she is even naughtier than Lola. Another one of their friends you guys should look at on twitter is Angelika Bunni. More curvy than Blair but just as naughty and not afraid to stick her pink pussy into a selfie.

The Ottawa private massage spa's have bars where you can chat up the girls before picking one. It's not full service though. Everything but penetration. Most of the girls are on twitter and some of their vids are damn sexy.[/QUOTE]Hopefully she gets her website up soon, since trying to operate as an independent with just twitter and an email puts a lot of eggs into one basket. Here is Angelika Bunni. Of course she seems to have some excellent friends for referrals.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/AngelikaBunni[/URL]

It will be interesting to see what her first reviews look like.

Hey guys,

Planning a bachelor party and Montreal is a potential destination. I'm from Boston and I heard Strip clubs / clubs are great and quite cheap.

Does Montreal / Quebec have any brothels massage parlors etc? Looking to have a great time and I want to make sure that wherever I go has all the added features.

Anything helps.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2376892]Whether they are conscious of it or not, I find them more interesting here. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]Haha thanks for the comment And I am serious.

I find this board interesting because it's not as plague by local cheapshot like on the green board. So I stay calm here That makes me more interesting I guess.

But I wish I would be seeing as many agency girl as I used to. I barely see agency girl except in some multi partner party we do once in a while. So I cannot participate here that much.

I now have a small network of local indy which satisfy me plenty. Tough to be a local let me tell you!

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Youngun3393;2376960]Hey guys,

Planning a bachelor party and Montreal is a potential destination. I'm from Boston and I heard Strip clubs / clubs are great and quite cheap.

Does Montreal / Quebec have any brothels massage parlors etc? Looking to have a great time and I want to make sure that wherever I go has all the added features.

Anything helps.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Montreal doesn't have any brothels.

The strip club scene has tamed down considerably after the new law and a moralistic mayor.

The massage parlors are also less visible due to the dangers of multi-girl incalls. You need to make an appointment after making contact with them, usually via message board membership. As to whether any of them can accommodate a large group, you will need to ask.

The escort scene is thriving, but you don't mention whether you are in separate hotel rooms, or if you are airbnb'ing a large house. There are a number of independent escorts who can arrange something with friends, and a bunch of agencies that can send like-minded girls over.

Throw out some details and numbers, and the guys here can do some recommendations.

This is a truly fantastic escort with a ton of friends who does everything, and advertises putting together parties. She is one of my favorites in Montreal and all three times I have seen her have been great.

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/private-parties[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2377000]Haha thanks for the comment And I am serious.

I find this board interesting because it's not as plague by local cheapshot like on the green board. So I stay calm here That makes me more interesting I guess.[/QUOTE]Don't let it go to your penis head.

There are some guys who float around the German board, Brazil board, etc. who have very strong opinions. For the most part the ISG community is quite diverse internationally and we generally don't let guys intimidate other members.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2376899]Hopefully she gets her website up soon, since trying to operate as an independent with just twitter and an email puts a lot of eggs into one basket. Here is Angelika Bunni. Of course she seems to have some excellent friends for referrals.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/AngelikaBunni[/URL]

It will be interesting to see what her first reviews look like.[/QUOTE]Is she new to escorting? Does she post her age on twitter? I'm only interested in mid twenties. And back to indy only.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2377269]Is she new to escorting? Does she post her age on twitter? I'm only interested in mid twenties. And back to indy only.[/QUOTE]If you like tall, beautiful, athletic slim and mid twenties.

New to escorting but great GFE servce. Then this is your girl.

Unfortunately she'll betravelling outside of Montreal for the next 4 to 6 weeks.

At BeaujolaisJade.

I've seen her 3 times and she does duos with several of her hot friends.

I met Claudia of VogMtl for a 1.5 hour encounter on my recent trip to Montreal and I was absolutely bewitched and enchanted by her.

I was staying at the Omni and she walked into my room on a cool, late summer afternoon. She was wearing black tights that nicely flattered her exquisite figure. She wore a jacket over her top, but quickly removed it to reveal that she was wearing only a silver, shimmery bikini top underneath. If I had had any doubts about my choice of late afternoon companion, they vanished at the instant she revealed herself to me in that outfit. She flashed a beautiful smile at me and introduced herself. I was totally captivated by her.

It's clear from the photos on the Vog site that Claudia has a great body. She has a slender, athletic body but with just enough womanly curves to ignite the passions of any man.

She also has a beautiful face. Her DNA is a mix of Dominican and French Canadian and the result is gorgeous. Some would characterize her look as "exotic," but I don't want to apply that word to her, because it makes it seem like she is in some special category of beautiful girl. But really, she's just a beautiful girl with a great body.

Physical beauty is one thing but personality is another. I liked the vibe that I got from her when she walked into the room, but would she live up to her looks?

The simple answer is Oui! Yes!

Claudia is charming, mature, intelligent, sexy, sweet, flirtatious and articulate. We shared glasses of white wine and it was a pleasure to get to know her. Is she really only 18 years old? I don't know and I don't care. She insisted that she really is just 18 and she doesn't look older than that. She can't be more than 20 but she has the maturity of an older, more experienced girl.

The first half hour of conversation passed quickly but I was eager to get to know her more intimately. So we moved the encounter to the bed. She removed her clothes to reveal that she looks even better naked. She looks very much like a nude model named Denisse Gomez. Claudia is at least as hot as her and maybe more.

The rest of the encounter went as well as it could possibly go. She was an enthusiastic giver and receiver of oral sex. She was an eager participant in sex in multiple positions. Doggy was great. She has great stamina and she seemed like she could go on as long as I wanted. I asked her to lower her body into prone doggy with her legs together and that position was the best. When wearing a condom, I often can't finish the encounter when inside the girl. But with Claudia, there was no need to pull out for the finish. I came easily inside her.

Claudia is a star in the making. She has it all-looks, personality and performance. I definitely recommend her.

I met Kamila of VogMtl on my recent trip and I liked her a lot. Maybe not as much as Claudia (see below), but still a lot.

Even though there were no photos of her on the Vog site (though they recently added some), her description (34 DD-Natural, Latina Beauty) was enough to make me take a chance on her. I'm very glad that I did.

When I opened the door of my room at the Omni and she walked in, I was delighted with what I saw. She was wearing black tights and a very low cut, tight-fitting, spaghetti-strap tank top that revealed some truly world class cleavage. Yowza, yowza, yowza! She must have seriously turned a lot of heads on her way to the appointment.

Kamila is statuesque, shapely, curvaceous--she is indeed built. I have a thing for such women (for example, I have also met and really liked Amira of Vog).

Once I took my eyes off her shapely body and we introduced ourselves, I also noted that Kamila has a very pretty face. As I learned later, this beautiful woman has an interesting mix of South American and North African DNA. According to my preferences, that's a great mix. So all in all, this woman really appealed to me physically. But what would her attitude and personality be like?

As we sat down to share a glass of wine, I quickly felt at ease with Kamila. She is a sweet, friendly, smart girl. I enjoyed talking with her and getting to know her, though it was hard to keep my eyes off her ample cleavage.

I was pretty eager to see her naked and after 30 minutes (of a 1. 5 hour encounter), we shed our clothes and moved our encounter to the bed. Wow! Kamila looks even better naked than clothed. She reminds me somewhat of the porn star, Ella Knox.

Kamila's performance was excellent. She enjoyed giving and receiving oral sex. She was an enthusiastic partner who was eager to please me. After sex in a few positions, I almost finished inside her but I decided that I just had to finish on her fantastic boobs. She happily obliged my request.

Kamila stayed the whole 1. 5 hours and she was fully engaged the whole time. After sex, we lay on the bed and talked some more. All in all, it was a great encounter and I liked Kamila a lot.

If you like her type--voluptuous, exotic beauty--then I definitely recommend her.

Just discovered I can post here. Not sure how long ago that changed. ISG has been a great resource for me on Montreal trips and especially when visiting the FKKs of Germany.

Visited Montreal this summer and met 4 girls, all with Euphoria. Used them once before, a year or two ago. Last time I met with Emily, a short sweet, somewhat quiet girl who I had hoped to repeat with, but schedules didn't line up, and Candice, a taller blonde whom I enjoyed conversation with, and would repeat with if I wasn't trying to meet other girls.

This trip, I got in late. Only girl available by the time I was able to call was Raffaelle. She wasn't on my list of girls I wanted to meet, but it was my first night and I wasn't going to head straight to bed! She was very pleasant. Not quite the look I wanted, but not unattractive. Very good BJ and DAMM she had a great behind. 2 pops and I would repeat if I was in the mood for a great butt.

Second girl I met. I can't remember the name. Maybe began with an "A?" Advertised big naturals on a thin waist. Not super attractive, but I wasn't disappointed either. Nice enough girl. Don't see her on the website anymore anyway, so this probably doesn't matter.

Heaven was third. I had wanted to meet her since last time in Montreal. Fantastic session with a taller, long haired sweet brunette with big bolt-ONS. Would 100% repeat. Started on the couch. I sat while she gave a great BJ, and continued to the bed. Just a wonderful, sweet beautiful girl.

Last was either Katia or Sacha. I cannot remember and I wish I could because I want to repeat. I believe, based on the photos, it was Katia. Only had a half hour this time and I regret not having a longer session. She was beautiful and sexy and my number one pick for a repeat, if I hopefully have the right name.

Long story short, you can't really go wrong with Euphoria. 6 girls I've met, and would be happier to session again with any of them. Just waiting now on an excuse to go back!

I'll be staying in LE Plateau-Mont-Royal, and was wondering which In-Call agency is closest or most convenient to this area?

I know there are only 3 in call agencies XO, Velvet, and Euphoria.

[QUOTE=CaptRenno;2377880]I met Claudia of VogMtl for a 1.5 hour encounter on my recent trip to Montreal and I was absolutely bewitched and enchanted by her.

I was staying at the Omni and she walked into my room on a cool, late summer afternoon. She was wearing black tights that nicely flattered her exquisite figure. She wore a jacket over her top, but quickly removed it to reveal that she was wearing only a silver, shimmery bikini top underneath. If I had had any doubts about my choice of late afternoon companion, they vanished at the instant she revealed herself to me in that outfit. She flashed a beautiful smile at me and introduced herself. I was totally captivated by her.

It's clear from the photos on the Vog site that Claudia has a great body. She has a slender, athletic body but with just enough womanly curves to ignite the passions of any man.

She also has a beautiful face. Her DNA is a mix of Dominican and French Canadian and the result is gorgeous. Some would characterize her look as "exotic," but I don't want to apply that word to her, because it makes it seem like she is in some special category of beautiful girl. But really, she's just a beautiful girl with a great body.[/QUOTE]Hey Capt,

Always nice to read your great reviews. Claudia is definitely an exotic delicious treat.

Good looks and great service. This girl is really into sex and is mature for her age.

Would like to repeat with her but just haven't had the time.

BTW are there any girls left at MSC that you haven't seen yet?

Stella of Euphoria was the third (and last) girl that I met during my stay in Montreal during the week of the F1 Grand Prix in June (the other two were Alexa and Mary-Lou of Wildtime).

At first thought, "Stella" seems like an odd choice of name for an escort, since it sounds a bit archaic--evoking the name of Marlon Brando's girlfriend in the 1951 movie, "A Streetcar Named Desire. " But checking the origin of the name, I think it fits Stella quite well.

The name Stella is a girl's name of Latin origin meaning "star. ".

Hmm. Now that I know that, I think it's a very apt name, because Stella, based on her looks, personality and service, really is a star. She provided me with one of my most memorable encounters ever.

Stella's origins are described on the Euphoria site as "Mediterranean. " That can mean a lot of things, and almost all of them are good. I'm attracted to just about any woman whose DNA comes from one or more of the countries that ring the Mediterranean Sea. In the case of Stella, her DNA comes from one country on the north side of the Sea and one country on the south side. Incidentally, she has the same origins as one of the most famous escorts ever to grace the Montreal scene, Melanie of French Kiss. If you meet Stella, she will fill in the details about her background.

Stella is a pretty woman with a great body. Her face reminds me a little of porn star, Mia Khalifa, especially since she wears glasses sometimes, as does Mia. However, Stella has nice, normal-size, natural boobs and not giant, porn-star boobs like Mia. Stella's best physical asset is her perfect ass: firm, round, right-sized.

While I was very attracted physically to Stella, her real attractiveness lies in her personality and intelligence. Despite her relative youthfulness, she is poised, mature, charming, flirtatious and seductive. I felt at ease with her right from the start. The first hour of our meeting flew by as we enjoyed wine and conversation while sitting on the couch of my Airbnb.

I had the feeling that sex with Stella would be good but it was better than just good-it was great. Stella's libido goes to eleven. She provided one of the most enthusiastic, responsive, passionate experiences that I've ever had with any woman. She loves to receive and give oral sex. She kisses willingly. She seemed to enjoy the sex as much or more than I did.

In my eyes, Stella really is a star. If you like her type, then I recommend her highly.

[QUOTE=ElTacoShmacko;2378064]I'll be staying in LE Plateau-Mont-Royal, and was wondering which In-Call agency is closest or most convenient to this area?

I know there are only 3 in call agencies XO, Velvet, and Euphoria.[/QUOTE]You are correct XO, Velvet Love and Euphoria are three major agencies with incall. Are they absolutely the only MTL incall agencies? I'm not sure, but you have the best ones covered.

I believe Velvet Love's incall is in Le Plateau off the orange metro line. Which leads me to ask why are you concerned about where the incall locations are located? They are all downtown and not far from the metro.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2378089]

BTW are there any girls left at MSC that you haven't seen yet?[/QUOTE]Among the girls in the current lineup of MSC, I have seen Michelle (3 times though not recently) and Madison (once a while ago). I may have also seen Azalee when she worked under another name at Wild Time, not sure.

Michelle is fantastic, as I'm sure you know. I wanted to see her on my most recent visit in Sept. But the timing did not work out. Madison is nice and pretty naughty but I didn't click with her as much as I do with Michelle.

MSC is a great agency and I really respect the owner, Jessy. But their roster these days is not as impressive as some other agencies. Still as long as they have a couple girls like Michelle, I will always consider using them.

I would recommend to guys who are new to Montreal to look beyond the most well known agencies (Vogue, Euphoria, XO) and consider the smaller agencies too, like MSC, Wild Time, XXXtase. There are diamonds in the rough out there among those agencies.

BTW, what ever happened to Asservissante? They still have a website listing girls but they never post a schedule. Are they still in business? I will always remember meeting Saphire when she worked there. She went on to become a high end, high priced indy but I met her when she was way under the radar.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2378394]Which leads me to ask why are you concerned about where the incall locations are located? They are all downtown and not far from the metro.[/QUOTE]I've never been to Montreal, and just curious if they're all centrally located.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2378394]You are correct XO, Velvet Love and Euphoria are three major agencies with incall. Are they absolutely the only MTL incall agencies? I'm not sure, but you have the best ones covered.

I believe Velvet Love's incall is in Le Plateau off the orange metro line. Which leads me to ask why are you concerned about where the incall locations are located? They are all downtown and not far from the metro.[/QUOTE]Exact. Do not rule out XO or Velvet because they are just a few subway line out of downtown (15 min subway is nothing). Choose the best girl first, location second.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=ElTacoShmacko;2378064]I'll be staying in LE Plateau-Mont-Royal, and was wondering which In-Call agency is closest or most convenient to this area?

I know there are only 3 in call agencies XO, Velvet, and Euphoria.[/QUOTE]Hey man,

Just an FYI, there is literally no difference in incall vs outcall in MTL. Also, now, there are also few of the top girls who do incall only, mostly all the girls will come to you. Just some food for thought.

I met Elie for a two-hour encounter during a trip earlier this year. I chose her based on her availability during my preferred time of day, her description and my previous good experiences with Vogmtl.

There were a few things about Elie that make her stand out from the crowd, especially her willingness to kiss, her maturity and smarts, and her great body.

First, she's a great kisser. She kisses on the lips like she means it and enjoys it. She doesn't hold back, turn her head or just give you a little peck. You want to kiss? Elie is all in.

She is very fit, especially considering that she says that she doesn't work out and she's not a teenage girl. She has a naturally slender, fit body with some pretty nice curves. Her manmade boobs are very nicely done and they look and feel natural. They look right-sized for her body.

Elie is a smart, self-confident, mature woman who understands men and how to please them. She seems to take pride in her work as an escort and she told me that she enjoys the risqué aspect of working part-time as an escort. She's just very good at what she does.

She doesn't have photos and she doesn't plan to do any. She has a regular day job and a life outside of her escort work and she is careful to guard her privacy. An encounter with Elie feels more like meeting a secret lover.

She was wearing glasses (which add to her mature, smart, self-confident working-woman look) when I first met her but she took them off when her clothes came off. When her clothes come off is when you really appreciate what a great body she has.

Her performance was great. She seems to enjoy sex, responds well, doesn't tire, changes positions and aims to please.

All in all, I enjoyed meeting Elie a lot and I highly recommend her.

[QUOTE=CaptRenno;2378415]I would recommend to guys who are new to Montreal to look beyond the most well known agencies (Vogue, Euphoria, XO) and consider the smaller agencies too, like MSC, Wild Time, XXXtase. There are diamonds in the rough out there among those agencies.

BTW, what ever happened to Asservissante? They still have a website listing girls but they never post a schedule. Are they still in business? I will always remember meeting Saphire when she worked there. She went on to become a high end, high priced indy but I met her when she was way under the radar.[/QUOTE]I agree with you about those smaller agencies. However, You forgot to mention Godiva. This agency had a very special girl Emma last year. I did P4 P across Europe in the past decade but I could not find any FKK girl who could match the service of Emma.

I guess Asservissante was out of business. More than a decade ago, this agency had a famous SP called Mary Eve. The owner Martin did not answer the phone for more than two years. I guess that he was retired.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2378867]Hey man,

Just an FYI, there is literally no difference in incall vs outcall in MTL. Also, now, there are also few of the top girls who do incall only, mostly all the girls will come to you. Just some food for thought.[/QUOTE]Sorry, what I meant to say is that if your staying in down town, there is no difference in fee between incall and outcall. Compare this to Toronto where you may be asked to pay $50 for the provider to literally walk down two flights of stairs and come to you. To me, it seems like there are fewer girls now doing the "only incall / or mega session multi hour outcall" scenario offering.

Offering.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2378867]Hey man,

Just an FYI, there is literally no difference in incall vs outcall in MTL. Also, now, there are also few of the top girls who do incall only, mostly all the girls will come to you. Just some food for thought.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you mean. I'm mostly looking for incall place I can go, as I don't know if I'm comfortable having someone over at the place I'm staying at. If I am, I will open up to outcall girls.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2378903]..You forgot to mention Godiva...[/QUOTE]I agree. Godiva seems to be another good, under-the-radar agency. Though I have never used them, they have a good lineup and they seem to have a good reputation. I would consider using them on my next trip.

Katrina was the second mademoiselle from VogMtl that I met during my trip to Montreal earlier this year. I selected her for a 2-hour encounter based on her photos, the good reputation of VogMtl, her availability during my preferred (evening) time slot and my previous good experiences with Vog over the last few years.

Katrina is pretty much my ideal type physically, I. E. , petite but shapely.

She has great natural boobs (listed as 32 D and I have no reason to doubt that), a sweet round ass, and a body that is in between soft and toned. I think she works out but not to the point where she develops a hard body look. She has a pretty face and shoulder length hair. The photos of her on the Vogue site seem accurate. I would describe her look as a wholesome, sexy cheerleader type. All in all, she's very pleasing to the eye.

My first impression of Katrina was that she was a little cool and reserved towards me. But that was OK. Not every qubecoise fits the stereotype of being warm-hearted all the time with everyone. Perhaps she would warm up with a glass of wine, I thought. But Katrina doesn't drink (so she says) so she declined my offer of a glass of wine.

Because we didn't seem to click right away, I thought that maybe I had made a mistake to book her for two hours. I didn't need that much time just to have sex with her and I was starting to wonder how we would fill the rest of the time.

In the end, I need not have worried. I initiated some conversation (which was carried on in both French and English) and before long, we discovered some mutual interests. As we talked, I got to appreciate Katrina's personality as much as her looks. She's smart, interesting and personable once she warms up a bit. We actually talked so long that the first hour went by without any physical contact.

When I noticed the time, I decided it was time to get to know Katrina more intimately. When she took off her clothes, I could really appreciate her body-like I said, just my type (but maybe not everyone's type). Her performance was excellent and included light kissing on the lips, a BBBJ, sex in a few positions and a pleasing finish for me on her boobs.

I'm glad that I met Katrina and I might choose to meet her again. If you like her type, I recommend her.

I met Amira of Vogmtl in summer 2018 for a 90 minute encounter and then she disappeared from the Vog schedule for a while. But she reappeared sometime in 2019. Unfortunately our schedules did not mesh on any of my 3 trips to Montreal in 2019.

She is a beautiful, exotic looking Moroccan (Arab) girl with an absolutely killer body. She may not be everyone's type but she is 100% my type.

When I first met her, she didn't have photos on the Vogue website but I took a chance on her based on her description, my preference for exotic girls with shapely bodies and my previous good experiences with Vog. She does have photos now.

Amira is petite but with a very shapely body. She has absolutely magnificent natural D (DD?) cup boobs, a slender waist and a great ass-a perfect hourglass figure. There aren't that many petite girls with a shape like hers. Combined with her exotic beauty, she has a unique appeal.

But the best part about Amira is her delightful personality. She is friendly, affectionate, relaxed and mature for a girl of only 22. I felt at ease with her right away. I guess you could say that she gave me a peaceful easy feeling, as in the Eagles song.

After we chatted, drank some white wine and got to know each other a bit, Amira proved to be an enthusiastic, eager sex partner. She's just one of those girls whose libido goes to 11. While she checked the boxes of the GFE checklist, it was her overall great attitude and enthusiasm that made the experience an exceptional one. She's the kind of woman who can touch a man's soul with both her looks and personality. And her boobs are a gift of the gods. If you like her type, then I recommend her highly.

[QUOTE=CaptRenno;2379552]When I first met her, she didn't have photos on the Vogue website but I took a chance on her based on her description, my preference for exotic girls with shapely bodies and my previous good experiences with Vog. She does have photos now.[/QUOTE]And my review. LOL.

I saw her 2 weeks after she started. She had no pics but I asked Vog to send me some. While her body is not my type since I prefer spinners I had such a good time with Amira that I repeated with her after she went from blond to brunette. Effy is still my favourite at Vog. And if Eva comes back I'll be the first in line to see her again.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2379733]And my review. LOL...I saw her 2 weeks after she started. .[/QUOTE]CS-yes, that's true about Amira and your review of her. Your good review definitely mattered and I pay close attention to any Montreal girl that gets the CS seal of approval. Thanks!

I didn't realize until recently that Vog would send you a photo or two of a girl who had not yet had professional shots done. So, guys, if you are tempted by a girl's description but she has no photos, just ask the booker to text you one.

Hello,

Are you allowed to cum twice when you book an hour at Vogmtl or how does it work?

[QUOTE=Joezakary;2379911]Hello,

Are you allowed to cum twice when you book an hour at Vogmtl or how does it work?[/QUOTE]In theory you are but its up to the girl and your chemistry.

Some agencies like Godiva state 2 services during an hour, on the girl's profile page.

[QUOTE=Joezakary;2379911]Hello,

Are you allowed to cum twice when you book an hour at Vogmtl or how does it work?[/QUOTE]Yes, reputable, reviewed Montreal independents and agencies sell time, not sex acts.

So you can cum twice in the hour.

It is often a different story if you dumpster dive and get ladies off of low-priced classified ads.

You can learn a lot about a girl on twitter. Sexy pics and videos. Her intelligence, sense of humour and all around personality. Her schedule and future tours.

I follow the top Montreal escorts also some from Toronto. I also follow some gorgeous US escorts and dozens of MP's from Ottawa. You can DM most of them and view their answers to intimate questions. If you want more info then PM me.

Mongerer88 is also very active in following ladies on twitter so he may have some comments too.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2380099]It is often a different story if you dumpster dive and get ladies off of low-priced classified ads.[/QUOTE]Haha yes true. I would never recommend any visitor to Montreal to venture on Leolist or other low priced ads. Leave that to the locals who know what they are doing. The bullshit ratio on these sites is around 95 to 99% so you need to know your shit, have connections and experience to find the little gems.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=CaptRenno;2377880]Claudia is a star in the making. She has it all-looks, personality and performance. I definitely recommend her.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. She has a take charge type of attitude which I like. Everything but trip to Greece and COF was available. Great kisser. 2 SOG allowed. Well worth the premium request.

Hello! I am planning a visit to Montreal and want to try something extra special. MFM (hetero) with DP!

It looks like my options are 1) Find a fellow hobbiest 2) Find a gangbang / orgy and 3) Find a provider.

Finding another guy willing and compatible sound like a task alot harder than finding a SP who accepts 2 guys.

I've looked at swinger clubs and GB events but either they are filled with guys / obese / old folks, or timing doesn't align with my visit.

Lastly, I've searched for a SP who will bring in a guy, but did not see any openly advertising SPs.

Can anyone help? Any info on SPs / agencies providing male / female duos?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Mander;2381231]Hello! I am planning a visit to Montreal and want to try something extra special. MFM (hetero) with DP!

It looks like my options are 1) Find a fellow hobbiest 2) Find a gangbang / orgy and 3) Find a provider.

Finding another guy willing and compatible sound like a task alot harder than finding a SP who accepts 2 guys.

I've looked at swinger clubs and GB events but either they are filled with guys / obese / old folks, or timing doesn't align with my visit.

Lastly, I've searched for a SP who will bring in a guy, but did not see any openly advertising SPs.

Can anyone help? Any info on SPs / agencies providing male / female duos?

Thanks![/QUOTE]April Rose, one of my favorites in Montreal, advertises MFM as part of her many duo experiences and lists the male she does such sessions with.

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/duos[/URL]

Melodie was formerly Jasmine, who was the Head Unicorn of the Unicorn agency. That agency did everything, including MFM. I have seen Melodie and liked her. She could either do a MFM session, including selecting the male, if she is available, or she could direct you to former Unicorns who do this type of session and have guys they do it with.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/UnicornFor3some[/URL]

Both April Rose and Melodie offer anal.

Neither Montreal, or the participants of the Montreal boards, are filled with guys interested in MFM, and Montreal doesn't have huge gangbang / orgy events like parts of Europe has. You would be better off contacting either of the two providers listed above to make your arrangements.

[QUOTE=Mander;2381231]Hello! I am planning a visit to Montreal and want to try something extra special. MFM (hetero) with DP!

It looks like my options are 1) Find a fellow hobbiest 2) Find a gangbang / orgy and 3) Find a provider.

Finding another guy willing and compatible sound like a task alot harder than finding a SP who accepts 2 guys.

I've looked at swinger clubs and GB events but either they are filled with guys / obese / old folks, or timing doesn't align with my visit.

Lastly, I've searched for a SP who will bring in a guy, but did not see any openly advertising SPs.

Can anyone help? Any info on SPs / agencies providing male / female duos?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Ask any agency booker for a list of girls willing to do this. Session with the girl and ask her if she knows anyone. You ain't got no buddies who'the want to join you?

Mander,

Rosie Sparkles is another independent who offers MFM on her website.

[URL]https://www.rosiesparkles.com/duos[/URL]

April Rose and Melodie have more reviews than Rosie Sparkles, so they would be my personal recommendations, but I wanted to throw out another name, since many Montreal independents travel and are not always available in Montreal.

I don't know whether Rosie Sparkles does anal, which would appear to be a requirement for your session.

Wow this is awesome! I'll definitely inquire April and others!

Thanks guys! I'll report back in 2 weeks!!

[QUOTE=Mander;2381549]Wow this is awesome! I'll definitely inquire April and others!

Thanks guys! I'll report back in 2 weeks!![/QUOTE]Did you post on Merb? I once organized a 6 some with a visitor from Autralia. 3 of the top girl. He could not fucking believe it haha we had a blast.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2381647]Did you post on Merb? I once organized a 6 some with a visitor from Autralia. 3 of the top girl. He could not fucking believe it haha we had a blast.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]Damn that sounds hot!

I did post on MERB MTL 411 forum but mod took it down. 2 days after inquiring, the mod finally replied saying there were too many similar posts. Funny I did search before posting (like a good forum lurker) and the only one I found about MFM was back in 2016. Aw well.

Melodie looks hot, but the Unicorn ageny is now defunct? Lynn is replying to my emails so I guess they are not completely gone.

[QUOTE=Mander;2381848]Damn that sounds hot!

I did post on MERB MTL 411 forum but mod took it down. 2 days after inquiring, the mod finally replied saying there were too many similar posts. Funny I did search before posting (like a good forum lurker) and the only one I found about MFM was back in 2016. Aw well.

[/QUOTE]Haha welcome to Merb, home of the worst mods on the planet.

[QUOTE=Mander;2381848]Melodie looks hot, but the Unicorn ageny is now defunct? Lynn is replying to my emails so I guess they are not completely gone.[/QUOTE]Unicorn is gone but many of the girls are now Indy. They are on twitter so you can message them.

Too bad that its fully booked but Melodie is hosting an 18 person GB tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Mander;2381848]Melodie looks hot, but the Unicorn ageny is now defunct? Lynn is replying to my emails so I guess they are not completely gone.[/QUOTE]Melodie is very hot. The Unicorn agency ladies were always a bit of a consortium of independents anyway, and they disbanded and each lady went officially independent while remaining friends. Melodie and her assistant still monitor the old email address, apparently.

[QUOTE=Mander;2381848]Damn that sounds hot!

I did post on MERB MTL 411 forum but mod took it down. 2 days after inquiring, the mod finally replied saying there were too many similar posts. Funny I did search before posting (like a good forum lurker) and the only one I found about MFM was back in 2016. Aw well.

Melodie looks hot, but the Unicorn ageny is now defunct? Lynn is replying to my emails so I guess they are not completely gone.[/QUOTE]Mod on that board has a power trip. That's why I typically don't use it.

I posted something a while back in 411 asking about something. Their mod said "learn how to search". There were zero threads on the topic. None.

[QUOTE=Kaf003;2382104]I posted something a while back in 411 asking about something. Their mod said "learn how to search". There were zero threads on the topic. None.[/QUOTE]There are 2 possibilities. You searched well and actually found nothing. Or you didn't search properly.

Tell us what you were looking for and maybe one of us could help.

Savannah at Vog.

Met with Savanah recently in downtown. She's a blonde / blue bombshell in her mid / late 20's (agency age 23). Down to earth personality and easy to talk to. English is her first language, so no issue for communication. Did not ask anything beyond standard GFE, so not sure what options are available. Overall great time.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Judith at XO.

Met with Judith at XO condo. Judith had a cute GND face and soft body. I'the not necessarily call her fat, but she was not a spinner. Judith was sweet and always smiling. She seemed to be enjoying the work and to be eager to please. Judith spoke decent English and no issue for communication. Great oral skills, and very enjoyable session.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Alena at XO.

Met with Alena at XO at their condo outside of downtown. It's about 5 minutes away from downtown by Uber. No good place like a café to wait nearby in case your appointment is running late. So it may be inconvenient for winter time incall appointment.

Alena was a young GND SP with a nice body. XO said Alena is a debutante and I believed that. She seemed to be rather inexperienced, and more importantly, she didn't seem to enjoy the work. Alena told me of a few clients whom she did not like. She also made it clear that she only offers limited services. I sensed she's debating if she should stay in this business or not.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Lauren at XO.

Met with Lauren at XO condo. She was down to earth and easy to talk to. She was fit and athletic, with cute GND face. Lauren's first language is English, FYI for non-French speakers. I did not ask for anything beyond standard GFE, so not sure what options are available. The session was fun and I had a good time.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

[QUOTE=RainCity;2383383]Lauren at XO.

Met with Lauren at XO condo. She was down to earth and easy to talk to. She was fit and athletic, with cute GND face. Lauren's first language is English, FYI for non-French speakers. I did not ask for anything beyond standard GFE, so not sure what options are available. The session was fun and I had a good time.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.[/QUOTE]Thanks for review, lot of guys say she is really underrated, doesn't get the hype some of the other providers do.

I ask again if any brothers would be interested in an end of the year awards for ISG? My questions are:

1. Do we have enough brothers who contribute actual reviews? Wouldn't want anyone comin on and voting. Death man is right, not sure if it active enough.

If we did do it, I'the keep it simple and not sure why they don't do this on the green board to make life easy on themselves, one vote for each category, winner takes all. If we get enough people, think it would be fun.

I mongered across the border — finding myself stuck in Burlington, VT but reading about all of the fun you all have in Montreal. Arranged and incall meeting with Cora, who posts on Indys. Met at her apartment on the Island and I had perhaps one of the most enjoyable sessions with a provider in my many years of partaking. She was extremely accommodating, sensual, attentive and incredibly down-to-earth. Totally forgot it was a "session" and just enjoyed one another's company. You folks in Canada are spoiled with all of the wonderful providers you have and a country with laws that make waaaay more sense than the US.

LD.

[QUOTE=Lurkingdog;2384008]I mongered across the border finding myself stuck in Burlington, VT but reading about all of the fun you all have in Montreal. Arranged and incall meeting with Cora, who posts on Indys. Met at her apartment on the Island and I had perhaps one of the most enjoyable sessions with a provider in my many years of partaking. She was extremely accommodating, sensual, attentive and incredibly down-to-earth. Totally forgot it was a "session" and just enjoyed one another's company. You folks in Canada are spoiled with all of the wonderful providers you have and a country with laws that make waaaay more sense than the US.

LD.[/QUOTE]Many of us regular Montreal posters are Americans, a largely useless group with few skills other than the ability to do links in reviews.

Is this the Cora you saw?

[URL]https://www.zerkalida.com[/URL]

If so, can you tell us if she was BBBJ or CBJ (unless you requested CBJ). It is the most frequently asked question for prospective customers.

There is also a Montreal escort named Cora Winter, who I think is an independent. I am sure the Cora you favorably reviewed would want others to be able to find her.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2384031]Is this the Cora you saw?

[URL]https://www.zerkalida.com[/URL]

If so, can you tell us if she was BBBJ or CBJ (unless you requested CBJ). It is the most frequently asked question for prospective customers.[/QUOTE]Some of us are also interested in whether Cora is LFK or DFK. Seems that some reviewers will claim DFK when that is not necessarily certain. BBBJ is obviously either she does or doesn't.

Anyone have any recommendations for an indy incall massage in Montreal? I'm not keen on parlors.

Is it OK to have healthy business discussions?

An article says the girls in Montreal get to keep one half of the incall price. The half that the agency keeps covers the cost of the agency apartment, website, and booker. Is that correct?

So how much of the out call Price does the girl keep? I guess In an outcall the girl would have to pay Something for the driver and the booker.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2384350]Is it OK to have healthy business discussions?

An article says the girls in Montreal get to keep one half of the incall price. The half that the agency keeps covers the cost of the agency apartment, website, and booker. Is that correct?

So how much of the out call Price does the girl keep? I guess In an outcall the girl would have to pay Something for the driver and the booker.[/QUOTE]It is my understanding that the ladies get significantly more than half the fee for incall, and likely significantly more than half for outcall also. Are you sure you were not reading anti-prostitution propaganda when you read that the agency gets that much.

If that were true, you would see a lot more independents in Montreal.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2384350]An article says the girls in Montreal get to keep one half of the incall price. The half that the agency keeps covers the cost of the agency apartment, website, and booker. Is that correct?
So how much of the out call Price does the girl keep? I guess In an outcall the girl would have to pay Something for the driver and the booker.[/QUOTE]Interesting question. From what I understand on the hour charged 200-250, the girl keeps 120-160 (+extras).

But in incall, if 30 min is offered (at 140-160) the agency still pockets 60-80.

Hope I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2384350]Is it OK to have healthy business discussions?

An article says the girls in Montreal get to keep one half of the incall price. The half that the agency keeps covers the cost of the agency apartment, website, and booker. Is that correct?

So how much of the out call Price does the girl keep? I guess In an outcall the girl would have to pay Something for the driver and the booker.[/QUOTE]A good rule of thumb is that the girls keep 65%. Plus tips and gifts and money for extras.

[QUOTE=TapTap;2384349]Anyone have any recommendations for an indy incall massage in Montreal? I'm not keen on parlors.[/QUOTE]She's not Indy but Lina at XO was absolutely amazing! Not a shoddy massage mind you, professional level. She has good experience in this area and I also go amazing FS.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2384406] Are you sure you were not reading anti-prostitution propaganda when you read that the agency gets that much.[/QUOTE]I had a friend that used to hang out with one of the girls. He basically treated her like a queen, and she gave him so much fun and loving like he was king. They were like puppy dogs, having fun all the time. Obviously, the girl earned a lot, but she also kept the prices fair. Rarely does one ever find such a positive business exchange, they both got what they wanted and were happy.

Of course it probably isn't always so easy. Every business has bad customers and Also bad providers. Like every business, Everyone involved Should Consider making an effort to keep the market prosperous. Being polite and finding practical Creative ways of getting what you want instead of being excessively greedy. Business acumen goes a long way.

Hey guys. Long time forum member here passing thru Montreal. Trying to fulfill my fantasy here. RTFF but didn't come up with anything. Anybody got any advice? Incall vastly preferred.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2384031]Many of us regular Montreal posters are Americans, a largely useless group with few skills other than the ability to do links in reviews.

Is this the Cora you saw?

[URL]https://www.zerkalida.com[/URL]

If so, can you tell us if she was BBBJ or CBJ (unless you requested CBJ). It is the most frequently asked question for prospective customers.

There is also a Montreal escort named Cora Winter, who I think is an independent. I am sure the Cora you favorably reviewed would want others to be able to find her.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is the Cora I saw. Regarding oral, she asked me which I preferred so my sense is that she is okay with either (I opted for BBBJ and it was exquisite). While I'm not very endowed, she handled everything. I do not sense she likes "rough stuff" or gagging if anyone is into that. Hope this helps.

LD.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2384311]Some of us are also interested in whether Cora is LFK or DFK. Seems that some reviewers will claim DFK when that is not necessarily certain. BBBJ is obviously either she does or doesn't.[/QUOTE]Hey Wyatt- I enjoyed both LFK and DFK with her. Truthfully, I suspect thus is a YMMV type of activity but at least it's possible. The oral question was answered in the other post. Hope this helps.

LD.

There's been a lot of chat about kissing or this thread lately, thought I'd write a review for Elie who is probably in my top 3 ever in that regard. During my recent trip to MTL, she was my first encounter with the usual quick response from Vogue. Although there are no photos on the web site, no one need to be concerned. Elie has GND+ looks and a tight spinner body with tasteful enhanced the boobs. Bright and cheerful, I was wowed when I went in for my first kiss. This girl is a master (mistress?) of the art of DFK! She also sports a tongue stud and knows how to use it. You know how with some girls, all they need to do is DFK and BBBJ for you to get your shot off? That's her. Looks: 8. 5 (but only because she's a bit petite for my tastes, I like taller rangey women like Heaven of Euphoria (more about her to come)). Attitude: 10, Service:10 (she told me COF and anal are available to repeat customers), Repeat: absolutely. The extra $20 is worth it and trivial in any event.

Hb.

Can any experienced mtl hobbyist give me a short list of euphoria providers who are into greek?

I can obviously ask the bookers but sometimes I've found that there was misunderstanding between the SPs and the bookers. Also greek is always YMMV.

I know that Raphaelle and Evelyn offer and enjoy it. Is Elisa at Xo into it? I've read that she charges a lot for this extra.

Thanks!

Elie is a really pretty young women. She is originally from Gaspesie and came to Montreal when she was 17. This was my second time with this really pretty young women. She just had her boobs redone so please be very careful with her. This women is a DFK machine. She is open minded and will get better with repeat customers as previous poster just said. Her BBBJ skills are very good. CIM was part of her regular repertoire. Overall I would say she's pretty can't miss. If your respectful and have good hygiene.

This was my 12th time seeing this princess. She has to be one of the best looking SP's I have ever seen. Lia is also originally from Gaspesie, but left when she was 1 years old. Unfortunately Lia does not work to often because she now has her own business and is doing quiet well in it. All the times I have seen her she always has a smile on her face and is extremely bubbly personality. In terms of service I think she is YMMV. I have always had good service with her. BBBJ CIM is extra and she does not offer anal as for as I know. Her breasts are real and they are "spectacular". If you can catch her when she is working at Vogue I think you won't be disappointed.

[QUOTE=JohnnyFever;2385955]This was my 12th time seeing this princess. She has to be one of the best looking SP's I have ever seen. Lia is also originally from Gaspesie, but left when she was 1 years old. Unfortunately Lia does not work to often because she now has her own business and is doing quiet well in it. All the times I have seen her she always has a smile on her face and is extremely bubbly personality. In terms of service I think she is YMMV. I have always had good service with her. BBBJ CIM is extra and she does not offer anal as for as I know. Her breasts are real and they are "spectacular". If you can catch her when she is working at Vogue I think you won't be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Lia at Vog formerly Gabrielle at xxxtase and Mya at Delight has been around quite a few years. When I saw her as Mya I thought she was the most gorgeous escort that I'the ever seen. I remember that on her way to see me she asked the driver to drop her off at Victoria Secrets so she could buy sexy lingerie for her appointment. I've seen her twice and am tempted to see her again. Back then everything was on the menu.

[QUOTE=JohnnyFever;2385955]She has to be one of the best looking SP's I have ever seen. All the times I have seen her she always has a smile on her face and is extremely bubbly personality. In terms of service I think she is YMMV. If you can catch her when she is working at Vogue I think you won't be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Just to add, yea, def upper end GND. I've been wanting to see her for a while. If you give Celina a heads up with when your going to be in town she will try and make it happen. Obviously she won't come out for an hour booking unless she is already working. Great girl, would recommend and I would repeat. Service wise as a heads up to the boys, concur with Johnny, she is YMMV, of all the providers I saw this last time she barely kissed. Whatever she did, it was genuine and she was pretty enthusiastic with rest of service. Def glad I finally got to meet her.

Hi all,

I'm going to Montreal for to the first time end of November. I'm excited to see the city and I'm definitely interested in seeing 1 provider while I'm here. I've browsed a few escort agency sites and it looks like the standard rate is $200-250 an hour? Definitely pricey, I'm use to hookers in mexico that cost $80 max and can even get a good time for $20. So dropping 10 times as much money for a girl seems really dumb to me but I'm down to get just 1 session and see how I like it.

If anyone can recommend me a solid girl that fits my tastes that would be great. I'm looking for a thicker girl with preferably very huge tits such as H cups or bigger. I also very much enjoy big fat bubble butts and thick / juicy thighs. I'm not sure if Montreal has a lot of girls with these characteristics but this is my favorite body type. Basically an instagram thick type of girl. In terms of service I would hope that for $200 I get an excellent girl friend experience with a lot of kissing, rubbing, nipple licking, bare back blowjob, etc.

If anyone has a girl that they think would be perfect for me please drop a link to her pictures and the best way to contact her to set up an appointment. Also, I can only do incalls because I'll be staying at a public hostel, I have no place to bring the girls.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2386519]Hi all,

I'm going to Montreal for to the first time end of November. I'm excited to see the city and I'm definitely interested in seeing 1 provider while I'm here. I've browsed a few escort agency sites and it looks like the standard rate is $200-250 an hour? Definitely pricey, I'm use to hookers in mexico that cost $80 max and can even get a good time for $20. So dropping 10 times as much money for a girl seems really dumb to me but I'm down to get just 1 session and see how I like it.

If anyone can recommend me a solid girl that fits my tastes that would be great. I'm looking for a thicker girl with preferably very huge tits such as H cups or bigger. I also very much enjoy big fat bubble butts and thick / juicy thighs. I'm not sure if Montreal has a lot of girls with these characteristics but this is my favorite body type. Basically an instagram thick type of girl. In terms of service I would hope that for $200 I get an excellent girl friend experience with a lot of kissing, rubbing, nipple licking, bare back blowjob, etc.

If anyone has a girl that they think would be perfect for me please drop a link to her pictures and the best way to contact her to set up an appointment. Also, I can only do incalls because I'll be staying at a public hostel, I have no place to bring the girls.[/QUOTE]Logan is your girl. She is fantastic.

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/logan[/URL]

Please note that the per capital income of Canada is four times higher than Mexico, but the sex workers are only three times as expensive.

[URL]https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/mexico/canada?sc=XE34[/URL]

Looking for the exact same and I can do outcall!

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2386519]Hi all,

I'm going to Montreal for to the first time end of November. I'm excited to see the city and I'm definitely interested in seeing 1 provider while I'm here. I've browsed a few escort agency sites and it looks like the standard rate is $200-250 an hour? Definitely pricey, I'm use to hookers in mexico that cost $80 max and can even get a good time for $20. So dropping 10 times as much money for a girl seems really dumb to me but I'm down to get just 1 session and see how I like it.

If anyone can recommend me a solid girl that fits my tastes that would be great. I'm looking for a thicker girl with preferably very huge tits such as H cups or bigger. I also very much enjoy big fat bubble butts and thick / juicy thighs. I'm not sure if Montreal has a lot of girls with these characteristics but this is my favorite body type. Basically an instagram thick type of girl. In terms of service I would hope that for $200 I get an excellent girl friend experience with a lot of kissing, rubbing, nipple licking, bare back blowjob, etc..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RainCity;2376333]Rebeka Vog.

Met with Rebeka at Vog. She is a Quebecoise and pretty much French only. Rebeka is a quintessential spinner in her mid 20's (I'm guessing). Cute face, tight body, and tanned skin. Her hair was more tomato color than natural red, and it fit her well with edgy look. Could not tell if she's a smoker. Her oral skills have some room for improvement. But besides that, overall good time.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.[/QUOTE]Her newest pic the face appeared photoshopped. On the greenboard was a review that her face was below avg. Did not find her to below avg face?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2386562]Logan is your girl. She is fantastic.

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/logan[/URL]

Please note that the per capital income of Canada is four times higher than Mexico, but the sex workers are only three times as expensive.

[URL]https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/mexico/canada?sc=XE34[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes Logan is an excellent choice. I remember she was one of Manapart's favourites when she was at Eleganza, and James knows his women. LOL.

The guy should also look at the women at Indy Companions. Big selection of faces, body types and services offered.

Her measurments say GG but pictures show otherwise.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2386562]Logan is your girl. She is fantastic.

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/logan[/URL]

Please note that the per capital income of Canada is four times higher than Mexico, but the sex workers are only three times as expensive.

[URL]https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/mexico/canada?sc=XE34[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2386776]Her measurments say GG but pictures show otherwise.[/QUOTE]I have seen her and she has huge (non-fat) boobs. Absolutely huge compared to her frame. She is extremely GFE.

This isn't Latin America. Most local Quebec ladies are be Cups.

For what you asked for, she is my best recommendation.

Others may have additional recommendations.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2386872]I have seen her and she has huge (non-fat) boobs. Absolutely huge compared to her frame. She is extremely GFE.

This isn't Latin America. Most local Quebec ladies are be Cups.

For what you asked for, she is my best recommendation.

Others may have additional recommendations.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation, very much appreciated.

Tit size is interesting on escort sites. So many girls claim G cups, DDD cups, etc, but when you see their pics, their tits look like average sized boobs haha. I'm looking for huge tits to be honest. The ones that are absolutely spilling out and exploding out of a top. Not sure if any girl in Montreal can match that true caliber of huge tits? If not I may have to settle down with this girl you suggested. Maybe her tits look big in person?

Anyone have other huge tit girls they can recommend?

Our taste is the hardest to find broo haha, there must be an indy who looks just like that!

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2386889]Thanks for the recommendation, very much appreciated.

Tit size is interesting on escort sites. So many girls claim G cups, DDD cups, etc, but when you see their pics, their tits look like average sized boobs haha. I'm looking for huge tits to be honest. The ones that are absolutely spilling out and exploding out of a top. Not sure if any girl in Montreal can match that true caliber of huge tits? If not I may have to settle down with this girl you suggested. Maybe her tits look big in person?

Anyone have other huge tit girls they can recommend?[/QUOTE]

Can't remember the exact name of the place but near the Sheraton Hotel in downtown Montreal on the second floor. Rub and tug place. Anyone know if there is one closer to the Doubletree Hotel (the one attaches to the mall). Just curious if anyone has also ever hit up Chinatown? I like a massage along with a tug to include access but not really wanting FS.

Thanks!

Day 1.

I was arriving on a late flight and wanted a warm welcome. I had booked Hotel Kutuma Executive Suite. The hotel was a very small boutique hotel with African theme. The suite was huge, clean, and a very nice bathroom with big jacuzzi and candles. I had booked Sandy from Godiva Escorts. She was young, slim, hot, and very down to earth cool. We had a very nice GFE session and overall a good time. FBSA 9/9/9/9.

Day 2.

I had big hope for day 2, as I had connected with another hobbists to have MFM session. During the day, I decided to try LE Penthouse. They had a nice presentation and I picked Sara, a blonde with amazing figures! I cannot share any details but let's just say I had a great time with her! FBSA 8/10/9/9.

Later that day, I find out Raphaelle from Euphoria that I had booked for MFM flakes out, then the guy flakes out as well. I was able to find a backup girl Katherine from a different agency, and I had another local monger lined up, but then he flakes out 20 min before the time! So it's just Katherine and myself. Katherine was nothing like the picture and had tons of tattooes on her stocky body! But being a gentleman I am, I did my best to hide the disappointment and show her a good time. Greek with her was actually quite good! FBSA 5/5/8/8.

Day 3 & 4 to follow.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2386562]Logan is your girl. She is fantastic.

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/logan[/URL][/QUOTE]What is the deal with Logan's breasts? It seemed that in the past she was a popular naturally, busty woman. Recent comments seem to indicate she has had her breasts enhanced.

It might not be important to the member inquiring about very large breasts, but many breast lovers prefer the large, natural variety.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2387180]What is the deal with Logan's breasts? It seemed that in the past she was a popular naturally, busty woman. Recent comments seem to indicate she has had her breasts enhanced.

It might not be important to the member inquiring about very large breasts, but many breast lovers prefer the large, natural variety.[/QUOTE]It is my understanding that she had some shaping and lifting work done, which is not unusual for a woman born with extremely large breasts on a normal frame.

I saw her before this work was done and found them to be spectacular, so I simply don't know what they look and feel like today.

She is a friendly girl who loves sex, so I think of her as more than a pair of breasts.

That being said, one humorous reviewer said he would not recognize her face if he passed her on the street. He spent the whole session looking at her breasts.

Question for my fellow mongerers:

How long is it appropriate to wait for a response from an escort before reaching out to someone else for that same time period?

Thanks in advance for any replies!

[QUOTE=TapTap;2384492]Interesting question. From what I understand on the hour charged 200-250, the girl keeps 120-160 (+extras).

But in incall, if 30 min is offered (at 140-160) the agency still pockets 60-80.

Hope I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]Hello, this is my first time, are these prices CAD or USD?

Day 3.

I had moved to another hotel farther up north, named LE Chablis-Cadillac. The place was very clean and nice with modern decor. I really liked its glass-walled jacuzzi and mirrored ceiling. The place is supposed to be a love hotel but not sleazy at all! I had the pleasure of meeting Kloe from Vogue who was tall flowing blonde with long legs wearing a camo pants. She looked just like Cami from the Street Fighters! Anyways she was very cool and we had fun in the jacuzzi and climbed out for more intense actions including BBBJ, 69, CG, then switched to greek and moved to doggy with a delightful view, sideways, mish, then CIM ending. She was a big girl but in great glamours shape. FBSA 8/9/9/9.

For the evening event, I had to choose between 18-years old Italian hottie Elisa from XO, or attend a Halloween sex party. I choose the latter and we ushered into a luxury condo by a very courteous host. There was about 30 guys and 3 girls, but none of the girl was my liking and they didn't allow greek. So I got some BJ out of it, but I wish I had gone with Elisa instead. Oh well.

It's getting pretty late and I wanted to make one more use of the Jacuzzi suite, so I contacted agencies, but none of the agencies had a girl willing to come out that far in the morning. So instead I made an incall booking with XO in the afternoon.

Day 4.

I asked for a young spinner and XO booked me with Lana. However, as I was getting near the incall, XO contacted me and told me Lana flaked out. Great. But they had Emily available. I got to the location and Emily greeted me wearing only a towel. That was fast! Emily was very petite young GND girl with sweet demeanor. We had a very nice GFE session ending again with CIM. It was a nice way to end my visit. FBSA 8/9/8/9.

It was overall a very nice visit. You need to do your research to find 9's and above, and the ones that were reviewed in MERB either was unavailable or moved on from the agency. I would definitely try visiting again if I get another chance.

[QUOTE=Stabbin36;2387339]Question for my fellow mongerers:

How long is it appropriate to wait for a response from an escort before reaching out to someone else for that same time period?

Thanks in advance for any replies![/QUOTE]Waiting for a confirmation? For an Indy as long as you want. Could be 1 day to 5 minutes. If you are horny why would you wait for one indy to answer if you have another that answer before? That said me I live here so I usually wait from an answer from one before moving to another prospect.

With an Agency the same you can deal with 2-3 agency at the same time and pick the most interesting prospect for you.

Now if a confirmation was set for a meeting but you are waiting for final room number and / or confirmation to ask for your room number then it's another story. If the girl is late and if I do not get any notice I wait 20 minutes then I go back home or go back to browse who would still be available.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Bsizzle123;2387345]Hello, this is my first time, are these prices CAD or USD?[/QUOTE]Do not get offended but why would we advertise USD price in Canada? Yes it's CND.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2387587]Do not get offended but why would we advertise USD price in Canada? Yes it's CND.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Haha thanks. I wasn't thinking straight. I'm coming from NYC, so I'm planning on getting a hotel or Airbnb in the downtown area. Is VOJ an out all place, where you can go and see all the lineups of the girls?

[QUOTE=Bsizzle123;2387642]Haha thanks. I wasn't thinking straight. I'm coming from NYC, so I'm planning on getting a hotel or Airbnb in the downtown area. Is VOJ an out all place, where you can go and see all the lineups of the girls?[/QUOTE]I would suggest for AirBNB look in Griffintown area (just south of downtown). Hotel downtown.

VOG is outcall only.

There is no agency where you can go and see the girl. Some Massage parlor you can do that. If interested look for YPG.

Incall agency only 3 of them Velvet (in the Plateau area), XO east of downtown and Euhporia in Griffintown. Each of these 3 have stellar line up. Still some girl are much better then others. You need to pre-book (XO and Velvet) or no later then 9 am (Euphoria). Call instead of texting agency. And have a plan be.

Montreal is unique in North america for quality of girl and price. Ho almost forgot learn just a few words of French. Always polite to say Salut comment ca va instead of Hello how are you. Or Tu es si mignonne je vais te manger tout cru.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Bsizzle123;2387642]Haha thanks. I wasn't thinking straight. I'm coming from NYC, so I'm planning on getting a hotel or Airbnb in the downtown area. Is VOJ an out all place, where you can go and see all the lineups of the girls?[/QUOTE]You can't see line-ups.

Montreal is an escort city where time and companionship is sold.

This is why we have reviews and recommendations.

You book an escort and either see her incall or outcall.

Although you are purchasing time and companionship, you will get what you want if you read the reviews and recommendations.

The legal situation does not allow multiple ladies to be at one place and do a line-up.

And there has never been an interest by the ladies of working this way, even before the new law.

Your first posts were of FKKs.

The German FKK system gets a pipeline of Eastern European ladies, primarily from Romania, who work and live at the facility.

Montreal doesn't work that way. The ladies work by appointments and balance daily life between appointments.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2387587]Do not get offended but why would we advertise USD price in Canada? Yes it's CND.
.[/QUOTE]In every forum you go to worldwide Americans will state the prices in USD instead of the local currencies.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2387767]In every forum you go to worldwide Americans will state the prices in USD instead of the local currencies.[/QUOTE]The question should be in what currency do the agencies and escorts charge. And the answer is almost always Canadian dollars in Canada. Same goes for Euros for Germany, the pound for England and the Australian dollar.

What is the legality of prostitution in Montreal? If you get caught by the police can they ruin your life and jail you like in the united states? What is the likelihood of getting caught? Do the police set up stings, pretending to be independent girls and jailing johns that they catch? Are these escort agencies and independent girls under the threat of law enforcement and are they at risk of being shut down?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2387767]In every forum you go to worldwide Americans will state the prices in USD instead of the local currencies.[/QUOTE]That's more true for countries in Asia, South America and Eastern Europe. Much, much less so for the major industrialized countries / currencies. In South America, a girl is likely to quote a foreigner a US $ price right off the bat.

The girls will take Dollars, but local currency is an acceptable form of payment. I don't have much experience in Eastern Europe lately, but I'm guessing the girls are very comfortable accepting Euro.

Just to clarify for the guy booking hotels and AirBnB, if you are searching for rooms from the USA the websites typically know you are in the USA And quote US $ prices.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2388495]What is the legality of prostitution in Montreal? If you get caught by the police can they ruin your life and jail you like in the united states? What is the likelihood of getting caught? Do the police set up stings, pretending to be independent girls and jailing johns that they catch? Are these escort agencies and independent girls under the threat of law enforcement and are they at risk of being shut down?[/QUOTE]The new Canadian law makes it legal for a seller to sell sex, but illegal for a purchaser to solicit or purchase sex.

After the new law was passed, the law enforcement agencies of Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver issued prioritization bulletins stating that there prioritization policy would continue to be toward the prostitution of underaged and trafficked persons.

As a result, the new law has had no real effect, other than sex acts not being as openly advertised. Incall locations are kept off the Internet, and ladies do not typically work there in large groups at the same time, lest it will look like an illegal brothel.

A customer is purchasing the time and companionship of the escort, which is legal to buy and sell, and to advertise by the agencies (or by the escort herself).

Canada was never big on stings, and all known stings have involved ads where the customer is informed immediately that the (nonexistent) lady is underaged. This has occurred more often in rural Canada.

Hotels are girl-friendly and escorts and customers are not hassled.

If you have concerns, stay away from low-end classified sites like LeoList. If there is ever going to be Canadian law enforcement activity, it will start at the low end of the scene, not with respected agencies and upscale independents.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2388732]The new Canadian law makes it legal for a seller to sell sex, but illegal for a purchaser to solicit or purchase sex.

After the new law was passed, the law enforcement agencies of Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver issued prioritization bulletins stating that there prioritization policy would continue to be toward the prostitution of..[/QUOTE]Are escort agencies and independents at risk of being busted by the police though, can they go to jail for what they are doing? That's my main problem with seeing escorts in the US. I know the girls are real, I'm just nervous about being busted by law enforcement mid session. I. E: knock on the door, turns out it's police. In the USA it's not uncommon for cops to monitor escort sites like skip the games. They use the info to scope out seedy motels and hotels. I guess my concern is: are Canadian cops actively making an effort to bust prostitutes and guys that visit them?

Anyone ever been denied entry to Canada?

I had a multiple day trip planned this week and was turned away by the Canadian authorities on Sunday. I have a DUI conviction on my record. The arrest took place May 2009 and the case was decided January 2010 with suspended sentence and 2 years probation. In most of my research I found that the immigration officials will allow you entry 10 years after the incident. I tested this theory with my first trip to Canada since 2009 this past June (prior to my DUI I was a yearly visitor to Ontario). I drove to the Quebec border and crossed over at Stanstead. I was flagged for secondary screening after answering yes to question of have you ever been arrested. I'm not sure exactly what occurred during my secondary screening, but when I entered the building I was asked the exact same questions from the agent that I just answered at the guard booth. They told me to have a seat. After about a 30 minute wait they called my name and handed me back my passport and was allowed into Canada. I came back again in July. This time I crossed over the Quebec border from New York at Blackpool. I was allowed into Canada without any secondary screening.

Sunday I tried to cross the Quebec border from Vermont at Philipsburg-St. Armand. I was flagged for secondary screening and told to talk to the immigration officials. This time I was told that I cannot enter Canada because I last appeared in front of a judge in January 2010. Therefore it had not been 10 years from that time. I was told that after January 2020 I can come back to Canada because it will have been over 10 years now.

Needless to say I was pretty pissed off at the situation. I drove 4.5 hours to the border, had non-refundable hotel reservations, already booked a Sunday appointment with XO and booked with an indy on Monday and another indy on Tuesday. So I had to drive 4. 5 hours back home the same day.

Anyone from the US have similar circumstances or know someone with similar circumstances? I'm wondering if what the immigration official told me is correct. Or do I risk being denied again after January. I would hate to miss out on the Montreal experience. Nowhere else I have been compares to it.

[QUOTE=Stabbin36;2388983]Anyone from the US have similar circumstances or know someone with similar circumstances? I'm wondering if what the immigration official told me is correct. Or do I risk being denied again after January. I would hate to miss out on the Montreal experience. Nowhere else I have been compares to it.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you ran into the wrong border agents who interpret the guidelines more strictly. From what I understand, border agents have a lot of discretion. They can turn people away for any reason they see fit. No one can guarantee that you will be free and clear in January. Try to come to Canada again next year and hope for the best.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2388958]Are escort agencies and independents at risk of being busted by the police though, can they go to jail for what they are doing? That's my main problem with seeing escorts in the US. I know the girls are real, I'm just nervous about being busted by law enforcement mid session. I. E: knock on the door, turns out it's police. In the USA it's not uncommon for cops to monitor escort sites like skip the games. They use the info to scope out seedy motels and hotels. I guess my concern is: are Canadian cops actively making an effort to bust prostitutes and guys that visit them?[/QUOTE]No.

First if all, what you are describing isn't how law enforcement activity really works even in the United States. Sure those type of scenes occur on bad 8 pm TV crime dramas (cops busting into hotel rooms without probable cause), but it doesn't happen with respect to prostitution in real life.

In Canada, with one side of the equation not doing anything illegal at all (even if selling sex), and the other side arguably not doing anything illegal (buying time and companionship), there is no reason for heavy-handed law enforcement activity. The police have simply said as much in the prioritization policy following the enactment of the new law. Prostitutes, in addition to not being subject to arrest for selling sex, are allowed to legally purchase administrative, advertising and transportation services, which allows agencies to legally exist. Although from a legal standpoint the agency ladies are selling time and companionship, which is advertised by the agencies, and the agencies do administrative scheduling and transportation services for the ladies.

I don't know how you dream this kind of police-state thing up with no possibility of it happening, yet go to Tijuana, where there is the real possibility of something bad actually happening to you, regardless of whether all the prostitution acts are legal. But to each his own.

Where is the best place to find independent providers? If anyone knows any that meets these specifications please post the link here, thanks.

"I'm looking for a thicker girl with preferably very huge tits such as H cups or bigger. I also very much enjoy big fat bubble butts and thick / juicy thighs. Basically an Instagram thick type of girl. In terms of service I would hope that for $200 I get an excellent girl friend experience with a lot of kissing, rubbing, nipple sucking, bare back blowjob, etc. "

I know that other countries like NZ have a similar policy. One DUI is enough to get you banned. I've been told that this is in retaliation for the US denying entry to foreigners who have been convicted of a DUI at their home. Getting even one DUI is no joke.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2388958]Are escort agencies and independents at risk of being busted by the police though, can they go to jail for what they are doing? That's my main problem with seeing escorts in the US. I know the girls are real, I'm just nervous about being busted by law enforcement mid session. I. E: knock on the door, turns out it's police. In the USA it's not uncommon for cops to monitor escort sites like skip the games. They use the info to scope out seedy motels and hotels. I guess my concern is: are Canadian cops actively making an effort to bust prostitutes and guys that visit them?[/QUOTE]I don't know about Canada but nothing bad will happen to you in Montreal if you stick to the most popular agencies: Velvet love, Euphoria, XO, Vog, XXXtase, and wildtime.

I will be visiting Montreal for 2 weeks. Any pointers on Massage parlours or Escort service. Are the hotels girl friendly? Please PM me. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Bindas101;2389843]I will be visiting Montreal for 2 weeks. Any pointers on Massage parlours or Escort service. Are the hotels girl friendly? Please PM me. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotels are girl friendly.

Traditional full-service walk-in massage parlors with a published address are more difficult to find after the new law.

It is easier for a tourist to use an escort service or an independent escort.

The following are the most often recommended and highly reviewed escort services. They offer both outcall and incall, but only give you the incall address after you book an appointment. The Montreal USG thread provides recommendations of various ladies from each of these four agencies and you should read it and make notes.

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/[/URL]

The listing of escort agencies is certainly not designed to be an exhaustive list, nor is the following list of recommended independents designed to be a complete list. It is just a list if ladies who have received excellent reviews by ISG contributors and designed to identify a wide variety of ladies of different nationalities and service offerings so everyone can find someone who offers what he wants. It leaves off a tremendous number of excellent providers and a person should read the thread to identify more possibilities.

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/UnicornFor3some[/URL]

[URL]https://sashajohansen.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.soniavonsacher.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://minxalyssa.wixsite.com/alyssa[/URL]

[URL]https://gabriellegarniercompanion.ca/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?184493-Selina-Asian-Independent-GFE-Massotherapist-OLD-MONTREAL[/URL]

Further to the message I just posted, I should have listed Godiva as another recommended agency.

[URL]https://godivaescorts.com/[/URL]

How do you find out what's on the menu for each girl? The agencies don't list it obviously, is this something you talk about through email when you contact the agency?

What is typically offered? BBBJ? CIM? Multiple pops in the hour? How many positions? Kissing, rubbing, squeezing, and groping?

Details please and thank you.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2390443]How do you find out what's on the menu for each girl? The agencies don't list it obviously, is this something you talk about through email when you contact the agency?

What is typically offered? BBBJ? CIM? Multiple pops in the hour? How many positions? Kissing, rubbing, squeezing, and groping?

Details please and thank you.[/QUOTE]The percentage of providers in Montreal offering BBBJ is significantly higher than the percentage offering that service in Mexico.

The vast majority, like 95 percent, of the ladies at the five recommended agencies offer BBBJ. If you will read the thread twenty pages back, all the recommended providers offer BBBJ. All of the recommended independents offer BBBJ. If you dumpster dive on LeoList, your BBBJ percentage will drop to less than 50 percent.

CIM is a lower percentage and you need to ask the lady and / or join the free local review board that is mentioned countless times in the last 20 pages and read the reviews of the lady you are interested in.

For what it is worth, Logan, the lady I mentioned, is reviewed as offering CIM.

All Montreal providers I have seen did two cums in the hour. As I said, that will not necessarily be the case if you book low-cost providers off of classified ads.

All the other services you ask about, kissing, squeezing, multiple positions are standard with the recommended providers.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2390460]...

CIM is a lower percentage and you need to ask the lady and / or join the free local review board that is mentioned countless times in the last 20 pages and read the reviews of the lady you are interested in.

[/QUOTE]AFAIK, all the girls of Godiva allow CIM. Some of them also swallow. You can check Godiva's website to find out.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2390443]How do you find out what's on the menu for each girl? The agencies don't list it obviously, is this something you talk about through email when you contact the agency?

What is typically offered? BBBJ? CIM? Multiple pops in the hour? How many positions? Kissing, rubbing, squeezing, and groping?.[/QUOTE]Yes this is something you can talk with the agency on the phone or text. I do not know of Montreal agency that works via email. I would not do that. Phone call is best. Velvet does have a online chat. That is cool live efficient messaging.

As Mongerer wrote BBBJ is the norm at agency. With 2 pops in the hour. As many position as you want. Kissing is the norm also but many girl will do light french kiss (no tongue in). Squeezing and groping is YMMV. Many girl will have no problem with it if you do the correct move. The first 5 minutes with a new girl is very important. You need to put her at ease. Make sure she can trust you.

And yes do get on the local board to learn about the girl service. But remember the YMMV factor. I got CIMSW at no extra from girl that are listed as no CIM. To the opposite I got CBJ from girl reviewed as BBBJ. So no matter what you read a bit more could depend on you. On her. On the specific moment you see her. You create the moment (and if you are to review the girl make sure to what the girl's comfortable to be written about).

Cheers,

Thanks for the intel folks. Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2390715]Yes this is something you can talk with the agency on the phone or text. I do not know of Montreal agency that works via email. I would not do that. Phone call is best. Velvet does have a online chat. That is cool live efficient messaging.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]Here's what I remember, and I got a good memory, LOL.

XO, vogue, and Godiva all have iMessage, all you need is internet connection and you can text away.

Euprohia XXXTase and velvet don't have iMessage, I wish they had whatsapp, but nope. It would help international clients.

Xxxtasexe, XO, vogue and XXXTase give responses by email. Just might be a while. Euphoria doesn't have an email from what I know.

Final note, you can ask what you want and get any info from the bookers about extras regarding their providers, it's a completely different scenario once your in the room with them like Jalimon said.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2387720]I would suggest for AirBNB look in Griffintown area (just south of downtown). Hotel downtown.

VOG is outcall only.

There is no agency where you can go and see the girl. Some Massage parlor you can do that. If interested look for YPG.

Incall agency only 3 of them Velvet (in the Plateau area), XO east of downtown and Euhporia in Griffintown. Each of these 3 have stellar line up. Still some girl are much better then others. You need to pre-book (XO and Velvet) or no later then 9 am (Euphoria). Call instead of texting agency. And have a plan be.

Montreal is unique in North america for quality of girl and price. Ho almost forgot learn just a few words of French. Always polite to say Salut comment ca va instead of Hello how are you. Or Tu es si mignonne je vais te manger tout cru.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Just to confirm, if I get to Montreal from the US in the afternoon, can I just go pick up a prepaid phone when I get there and line up a girl for that night? Or would I need to buy a phone in the US (that will also work in Canada) and set this up days in advance, before I leave?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=CoachBombay;2390870]Just to confirm, if I get to Montreal from the US in the afternoon, can I just go pick up a prepaid phone when I get there and line up a girl for that night? Or would I need to buy a phone in the US (that will also work in Canada) and set this up days in advance, before I leave?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Surprised your handle isn't Bond, James Bond.

Either way works, but you can just use your own cell phone. They won't send unsolicited texts or make any phone calls to you after the appointment.

You do want to delete the texts and browsing history when crossing the border, though.

I just jot down the agency / independent names and numbers in a book and resume the text conversation once I go through border patrol.

It is very rare that they look at your phone, but it occasionally happens.

You can also of course call from the hotel room landline phone.

[QUOTE=CoachBombay;2390870]Just to confirm, if I get to Montreal from the US in the afternoon, can I just go pick up a prepaid phone when I get there and line up a girl for that night? Or would I need to buy a phone in the US (that will also work in Canada) and set this up days in advance, before I leave?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hum not sure. Being from here I do not know what visitors do.

If I were you I would pre-book the first girl for the first day before leaving home. You can do that at every agency except Euphoria.

Once here many options but buying a pre-paid phone here should be fairly simple and safest option.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=CoachBombay;2390870]Just to confirm, if I get to Montreal from the US in the afternoon, can I just go pick up a prepaid phone when I get there and line up a girl for that night? Or would I need to buy a phone in the US (that will also work in Canada) and set this up days in advance, before I leave?[/QUOTE]Some agencies allow advanced bookings as they will post a line-up (subject to additions) a few days in advance. EscortsXO, Velvet Love, Godiva and XXXtase all post some girls a few days in advance. Vogue also does on a very limited basis. I got lucky booking Vogue super star April McAdams (now indy) when I saw her added in advance one afternoon. Euphoria is the outlier not scheduling in advance.

I'm not sure if you have considered just getting a SIM card in Canada. I believe there might also be some expensive global SIM cards available at Walmart, Target and such. It's kind of a pain

If you're very concerned about booking a top girl the first day, my advice might be to email an independent provider. Many of them will take email appointments.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2387720]I would suggest for AirBNB look in Griffintown area (just south of downtown). Hotel downtown.

VOG is outcall only.[/QUOTE]It seems like we cover this topic every month or two. Jalimon is a knowledgeable local who knows the city. I am a tourist who knows the city from my tourist perspective.

Griffintown is a fun area to stay. However as a tourist, you shouldn't just limit yourself to the area where two major agencies have incall locations. As long as you stay near the orange or green lines, you can get to Griffintown very easy. I like the French feel of LE Plateau, but most AirBnBs likely are not as private if you are entertaining escorts in your apartment. Downtown is an excellent choice. I kind of like Concordia for all the casual eateries and bars along Saint-Catherine Street. There are lots of very private apartments in high rises operated by entrepreneurial AirBnB hosts. No one cares who you bring up the elevator and into your apartment.

I've decided I want to get my own hotel for this trip instead of a hostel. There are some girls that I really want to see that are outcall only.

Can someone recommend me an affordable hotel that is downtown and you are able to bring girls there? Some hotels do not allow outside guests which I do not want.

Thanks.

Let me just say that I am beyond excited to visit your city at the end of the month. I am a senior member of USASG and wanted to pass on my appreciation for the volume of great information that has been posted here. I think half the fun / anticipation of this trip comes with reading and researching these pages for what lays ahead. I'm travelling with a friend so incall is likely the only option, but that doesn't seem like it will be much of a limiting factor. I'm going to be staying downtown pretty much right at the Bell Centre so I should be walking distance to Euphoria, borderline walking distance to XO and a few subway stops to Velvet.

I'll be arriving on a Monday and departing on Wednesday but ideally I'd like to make all three days count. So far, I've got Heaven, Lola, Scarlett (XO), Amanda, Jade (Velvet), Anna, Ruby (Euphoria) on my list, but I'm curious, if you could only see 3 who would they be?

I'd love to have any input. Feel free to PM or reply.

Thanks!

Dupplehouse.

This is a couple months old. I've been out of things but you all have helped me so I owe you my contribution.

I spent a week in Montreal. I saw 9 escorts and one massage. Considering I had a few 90 minute sessions and usually 2 shots, this was too much for me. Next time I will pace myself better.

My reviews are below. Keep in mind I like things slow, speak English, and value oral over covered FS.

Lina: XO. Russian / Asian (google Kazakhstan girls). Big pretty eyes. Fake chest, maybe fake ass. She started strong but slowed down when I asked. Good oral and BLS. Good riding. Squatting CG. Took direction well. Very sweet and accommodating. A little mechanical but OK. No repeat.

Emily: Euphoria. Was unimpressed when she answered the door but was happy once I saw her body and eyes. 22 and petite. Enjoyable body. Had some skills but was distant. Was OK and was trying but seemed like a chore sometimes. Still enjoyed myself but she was a little awkward. No LFK or DFK. DATY but not FIV. No repeat.

Priscilla: XO. Pretty face great spinner body. A lot of tattoos but still a nice experience. Like a Disney Princess above the torso but inked like a rapper below the chest. Great pussy. Very sweet and sexy. No LFK or DFK. Would repeat.

Lauren: XO. Bleach blonde. Native English speaker. Great tan body with nice be's and perfect ass. Pretty good but less sensual than some. Not great oral so underwhelming when compared to others. Not that I'the get close in the real world but no repeat.

Sweet Kylie: Godiva. Saw her a couple times before and she was eager to please but chill. This time she was too energetic at times. Went from GFE before to PSE. I eventually got into and enjoyed the ride but it was not what I was expecting. After, she was more relaxed. Still a good time but not what I expected. Probably no repeat.

Ruby: Euphoria. Auburn dyed hair and sparkly eyes. Looked like a taller, prettier Isla Fisher. Has a piercing right between her breasts and a couple on her hip. Didn't allow DFK, FIV or CIM. Otherwise up for what I wanted. Pretty good oral and into DATY, mish and doggy. Sounded like she was into, which I appreciate. Always better when you are looking at a beautiful woman. Would repeat.

Tried nuru massage. Out of a lineup I chose the tall one with perfect the's. Massage on back was good. Nuru with gel on my back was a waste. Enjoyed the hands on massage since I'm into that. I massaged her the's and she did a great HJ while I looked in a ceiling mirror. Was fun. Obviously no connection or personality but hotter and cheaper than a US massage. I know some people won't bother when FS is available but I enjoyed it.

Claudia: Vogue. Maybe she just didn't understand when I asked to start slow. Maybe she couldn't. Either way I enjoyed the action. Within 10 minutes I was inside her and loving it. After that I told I needed a rest and then we had our slow time. Kissing all over, sucking, DATY (she really seemed into it which I appreciate) another round in the tightest one I've been in in a while. Young gorgeous energetic. DFK but does have smokers breath. Still a highlight. Repeat.

Lia: Vogue. Reminded me of Megan Fox. Great chest. Back from hiatus. Spent a few minutes on small talk which is rare for me. I slowly moved her hands so we could talk and also get started. Wonderful teasing. Great dirty talk. Eye contact said my name. A beautiful tease but I loved it. No LFK or DFK but kissed me all over. Sucked licked and teased. Better with the talking and beautiful eyes. CG, more sucking then Mish at the two minute warning. Really fun. Repeat.

Selena: XO. Average face. Perfect spinner body. Terrible teeth. Looks nothing like her pics. Got into it quickly. Some LFK in that she used tongue but not well. Smooth delightful body. Enjoyed mutual kissing all over. She was loud during DATY. Decent oral. Took direction well. Great riding. My fav FS this week. CG for a while. Nice movement. Tightest girl I met that week. Round two later was Mish and Dog. Enjoyable. Repeat.

Let me know if you have questions.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2391202]I've decided I want to get my own hotel for this trip instead of a hostel. There are some girls that I really want to see that are outcall only.

Can someone recommend me an affordable hotel that is downtown and you are able to bring girls there? Some hotels do not allow outside guests which I do not want.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the awesome set of reviews Strawman83.

TErOnlyOnce, where are you getting this kind of information?

Other than shared room hostels, all Montreal hotels are girl-friendly to my knowledge.

Some guys complain that the LE Meridian lobby is very small and they find it awkward to meet a lady at that hotel since it has keycards.

And when the W has a big party, sometimes they monitor people coming in and out rather closely since they need to avoid a fire code violation.

But there has never been an issue with Montreal hotels not allowing outside guests in.

[QUOTE=DuppleHouse;2391326]I'll be arriving on a Monday and departing on Wednesday but ideally I'd like to make all three days count. So far, I've got Heaven, Lola, Scarlett (XO), Amanda, Jade (Velvet), Anna, Ruby (Euphoria) on my list, but I'm curious, if you could only see 3 who would they be?
[/QUOTE]They are all great choices. Never seen Lola XO or Ruby. All others yes and would recommend any of them. You will certainly need plan b so keep your list open.

My top 3 of the incal girl I have not seen and really want to see are in order Lola and Chelsea Euphoria and new Suki XO.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2391402]Thanks for the awesome set of reviews Strawman83.

TErOnlyOnce, where are you getting this kind of information?

Other than shared room hostels, all Montreal hotels are girl-friendly to my knowledge.

Some guys complain that the LE Meridian lobby is very small and they find it awkward to meet a lady at that hotel since it has keycards.

And when the W has a big party, sometimes they monitor people coming in and out rather closely since they need to avoid a fire code violation.

But there has never been an issue with Montreal hotels not allowing outside guests in.[/QUOTE]Just something I've seen on booking websites.

I was thinking about booking a 2 star hotel in downtown Montreal to save money. About $40-50 a night. Do the girls care what type of place you live in or will be staying in?

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2391620]Do the girls care what type of place you live in or will be staying in?[/QUOTE]Avoid St-Hubert street hotels. Otherwise you should be fine. I always meet in 2 star hotels and its not a probleme. That being said unless you come on a Monday it will be hard to find 50 $ a night. Its more around the 80 $(CAD) mark.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2391620]Just something I've seen on booking websites.

I was thinking about booking a 2 star hotel in downtown Montreal to save money. About $40-50 a night. Do the girls care what type of place you live in or will be staying in?[/QUOTE]Don't go too low. Like smaller size hotel on St-Hubert Street are too be avoided.

Comfort Inn, Best Western or LE Nouvel Hotel will probably be around 100 $ a night (depending on when you will be here). I would not go lower then that.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2391492]My top 3 of the incal girl I have not seen and really want to see are in order Lola and Chelsea Euphoria and new Suki XO.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Great picks Jal. Suki is brand new but is creating quite the buzz.

Lola is in the running for Escort of the year and is not to be missed. I've seen her 3 times last year. You can follow her and her friends on twitter under the name at LOLATHEBRAT.

Chelsea is a gorgeous 29 year old spinner who looks no older than 22. She is a marathon runner and in great shape. She used to be an Indy with FKS named Morgan. Saw her 5 times last year before she disappeared for a while and came back several months ago. The girl is the total package.

What the hell happened to Godiva?

Where did the girls move to?

Is XXXceptions still open?

Anyone seen Lily at vogue?

Rose was on vogues schedule recently, was that a one time scenario, or is she back?

Anyone seen Scarlett at euphoria?

Any info would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2392101]What the hell happened to Godiva?

Where did the girls move to?

Is XXXceptions still open?

Anyone seen Lily at vogue?

Rose was on vogues schedule recently, was that a one time scenario, or is she back?

Anyone seen Scarlett at euphoria?

Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]The local board closed a thread on Godiva. I guess they are waiting on Shawn to explain what's next.

I saw and of great redhead Alex that used to be at XXXCeptions but with a new, and similar, agency. Cannot find it anymore as they remove their adds. My guess is they changed name. Will try to confirm.

Rose is not back as far as I know. But I am not a Vogue client so maybe I am wrong.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2391937]Great picks Jal.
Suki is brand new but is creating quite the buzz.

Lola is in the running for Escort of the year and is not to be missed. I've seen her 3 times last year. You can follow her and her friends on twitter under the name at LOLATHEBRAT.

Chelsea is a gorgeous 29 year old spinner who looks no older than 22. She is a marathon runner and in great shape. She used to be an Indy with FKS named Morgan. Saw her 5 times last year before she disappeared for a while and came back several months ago. The girl is the total package.[/QUOTE]Cloud,

I had the chance to see pics of Suki. My style.

I follow Lolathebrat's twitter because of you and now I am addicted to it!

I want to see Chelsea ever since you urge me to see her before she left MikeMansion at the time. But now that she's back our schedule are not the same at all.

Cheers,

P.S. Have you notice Sonia has posted full face pic of her now? She's moving to webcaming that's why.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2392201]The local board closed a thread on Godiva. I guess they are waiting on Shawn to explain what's next.

I saw and of great redhead Alex that used to be at XXXCeptions but with a new, and similar, agency. Cannot find it anymore as they remove their adds. My guess is they changed name. Will try to confirm.

Rose is not back as far as I know. But I am not a Vogue client so maybe I am wrong.[/QUOTE]That's a big loss to guys who are looking for the late night shag. Both xxxceptions and Godiva were great for that.

Rose was on schedule for a few hours early this week Jal, or maybe it was end of last week, don't remember, but she was on for sure.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2392203]P.S. Have you notice Sonia has posted full face pic of her now? She's moving to webcaming that's why.[/QUOTE]Is it my imagination or are tons of escorts and Sensualists moving to webcam and showing face pics?

My most recent favourite is a webcam girl who does masturbating porn but is not an escort per se. Met her thru twitter and she is a wild devil up to almost anything. Squirting like a water hose.

Also a number of popular escorts have given up on all advertising except on twitter.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2392101]What the hell happened to Godiva?

Where did the girls move to?

Is XXXceptions still open?

Anyone seen Lily at vogue?

Rose was on vogues schedule recently, was that a one time scenario, or is she back?

Anyone seen Scarlett at euphoria?

Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Lilly at Vogue is Lilly at Euphoria. Just look up her reviews. She was pretty, and sweet, but I wouldn't say the session was anything special. Slim physique and decent ass.

Rose was a one time thing. I was pissed that I missed her. I immediately texted vogue to see if she would return and they said they didn't know.

I just booked for 2 nights at LE Nouvel Hotel, $100 per night after the taxes.

There are 2 girls I definitely want to see, both from xxxtase. I'm going to try to fit in a third girl. Probably from vogue just cause they have so many girls to select from. Since the max price is $240 CAD I'm looking at $170 USD per hourly session, not bad, considering I can get 2 pops off in the hour if I so desire. Seeing 3 girls for the trip is definitely within my budget. That third girl I see has to be one I'm reaaaaaallly looking forward to though, like perfect body and everything, otherwise I would rather settle for 2 girls and save the money, I'm not a fan of sub par escort experiences.

We will see what happens.

[QUOTE=CloudSurf;2392323]Is it my imagination or are tons of escorts and Sensualists moving to webcam and showing face pics?[/QUOTE]Cloud,

It's very sad. With technology everything is moving virtual. It seems it's too hard to go out and try to it a girl. Seems the feeling of rejection is too hard to take. WTF! Also it seems guys cannot really try on girl anymore. Fearing the girl will sue for harassment.

I am sorry because for me too some of my favorite are moving to webcam. But webcam is fucking bullshit. Giving money for virtual affection. Fuck you have to be so lonely and such a looser. These guys will never get a girl as the more they give towards virtual stuff the more they get away from real life. They won't learn. Learning is failing then succeeding.

Girl's rejection is good. It's normal. It's part of life. One day really one day it will work with one (or many) and from there fucking bingo! But fucking webcam really?

I am sorry to write that as I so much liked these girls. Still who could blame them? Making a lot of money basically via doing a theatre performance. Without sex. Easier on the body for sure.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2392569]I just booked for 2 nights at LE Nouvel Hotel, $100 per night after the taxes.

There are 2 girls I definitely want to see, both from xxxtase. I'm going to try to fit in a third girl. Probably from vogue just cause they have so many girls to select from. Since the max price is $240 CAD I'm looking at $170 USD per hourly session, not bad, considering I can get 2 pops off in the hour if I so desire. Seeing 3 girls for the trip is definitely within my budget. That third girl I see has to be one I'm reaaaaaallly looking forward to though, like perfect body and everything, otherwise I would rather settle for 2 girls and save the money, I'm not a fan of sub par escort experiences.

We will see what happens.[/QUOTE]Of all the advice you book 2 girl at XXXtase? Really? Nice agency but I am really surprise. Good luck and have fun!

Cheers.

Saw about 30 girls this trip. Most of the sessions were pretty average, so I'll only write about the standouts, both good and bad.

Not sure what's going on this year. I make a yearly trip a year to Montreal. In the past couple years, I would have A+++ experiences 75% of the time. This trip, my A+++ experiences were only maybe 10% of the time. Maybe this is an off-year? Out of around 30 girls, only 3 were on my list of must-repeat. Last year, out of 30, I had a list of 20+ must-repeats.

My top stand-outs this trip were:

Bianka at XO. Hot blonde with big tits and wide hips and killer abs. Athletic, sexy, hot, great personality. Great service.

Sandy at Godiva - 18 year old tall slim student. Talkative. Her skills aren't great because she's very young. But she is very pretty and a good time. She will only get better.

Liliana at XO. Hot brunette. Pretty face with big fake tits. Doens't speak much english but she is your quintessential quebec hottie. Great service.

Chloe at Vogue. Just a top level babe. Looks like she's 18 with a very cute angelic face, but has the A+ body of a super hot bikini model. Great service.

Emma at XO. Hot girl, big natural tits, wide hips, pretty face. Great service.

Mallory at Euphoria. Tall with a very pretty face. GND but also athletic. Great service.

Elie at Vogue. Very hot tanned quebecoise, great DFK, great service.

Average experiences:

About 20 girls in this section. But I suspect it was just a lack of chemistry, so I won't list them.

Mediocre experiences:

Cynthia at Vogue. Not as attractive as other Vogue girls I saw. Pretty weak BJ. Tried several positions and she wasn't really moving.

Julie at XO. She's a very nice sweet girl. However, she doesn't look like the photos on the website. I was expecting a pretty blonde with a nice ass, however, she's below average visage and had almost no ass.

Evelynn at Euphoria. Hot girl but. Uninspired service.

Not-good experiences:

Ariana at Euphoria. The description and photos were pretty misleading. I was expecting a pretty face and nice young body. Instead. She was 4/10 in the face, and had a not-so-great boob job with vertical scars. She also left after I finished myself for first SOG at 20 min. I didn't even bother to ask why she was leaving already.

Vanessa at XO. Her photos are misleading. She looks much less attractive in person, older and chubbier. I ended the session early.

Had 3-4 other A+ standouts but I was asked not to review.

Now that my Montreal is finished. My next stops are Barcelona, and then back to FKK land. This'll be a nice winter.

First, let me say what a great and active forum you have here. I'm based in Atlanta where we have a very active board as well, and it really makes a difference.

To the matter at hand, I'll be arriving in your fine city on an 8:30 flight on Wednesday, staying at a nice hotel downtown. I'd ideally like to book a 10-12 pm session, or something the next morning as I don't start until noon.

I'm pretty easy going, and I'm not a spinner guy, but I like fit girls preferably with a good rack. Beyond that, attitude and engagement is just as important. All of the agency girla are beautiful, I don't I think I'd be disappointed with any of them.

My big question is, given my constraints, should I try to prebook an Indy? Or focus on the agencies? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Dripster12;2392804]First, let me say what a great and active forum you have here. I'm based in Atlanta where we have a very active board as well, and it really makes a difference.

To the matter at hand, I'll be arriving in your fine city on an 8:30 flight on Wednesday, staying at a nice hotel downtown. I'd ideally like to book a 10-12 pm session, or something the next morning as I don't start until noon.

I'm pretty easy going, and I'm not a spinner guy, but I like fit girls preferably with a good rack. Beyond that, attitude and engagement is just as important. All of the agency girla are beautiful, I don't I think I'd be disappointed with any of them.

My big question is, given my constraints, should I try to prebook an Indy? Or focus on the agencies? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I really think you will be fine no matter what.

For the morning, xo and Euphoria have a really strong 10 am group that you can book in advance. Just text them in advance (but delete your texts prior to going through border patrol. Just looking at today, xo has five ladies and Euphoria had three ladies who started at 10 am. As with airline flights, there are fewer delays for the first appointment.

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/schedule/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

My favorite independent, April Rose, starts at 10 am and will likely be even more diligent than usual if you tell her you need to start at 10 am due to work constraints.

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/howtobook[/URL]

As for the night before, both Vog and Velvet sometimes have ladies that work late.

TErOnlyOnce might want to take a look at Vog's new very busty Valerie.

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escorts/valerie/[/URL]

And Logan, who I mentioned before, sometimes works late.

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/logan[/URL]

And my favorite agency lady Darla, while not busty, usually works very late on the nights she works.

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/darla[/URL]

You would need to contact the agencies beforehand to find out who is working late, while also checking the schedules a few days before.

8:30 pm isn't really as early as you might think. The walk from the plane to Border Patrol is a good 15 minutes. The waits at Border Patrol are often 30 minutes. So figure at least an hour to the 747 bus, Uber, or a taxi. The bus is the slowest, but the least expensive. You won't get to the hotel check-in until 1. 5 hours if you take the bus, so that is out. If you are on an expense report and can take a cab, that will be more like 45 minutes to an hour. So best case you are checking in at 10:15. So you have your room number at 10:30 best case. I think that means you would be planning on a midnight appointment. You might get an agency to be comfortable with earlier than that if you are in constant communication, but you would be safest with a night owl girl who planned to work until 1 or 2 am anyway, and you need to check the schedule to see how many are planning to do so. You might also be the perfect candidate for the many ladies who plan to take their last appointment at midnight, so you just need to ask the agency what they recommend.

If you can go to sleep with a boner, scheduling a 10 am the next morning would seem less stressful.

[QUOTE=Dripster12;2392804]First, let me say what a great and active forum you have here. I'm based in Atlanta where we have a very active board as well, and it really makes a difference.

To the matter at hand, I'll be arriving in your fine city on an 8:30 flight on Wednesday, staying at a nice hotel downtown. I'd ideally like to book a 10-12 pm session, or something the next morning as I don't start until noon.

I'm pretty easy going, and I'm not a spinner guy, but I like fit girls preferably with a good rack. Beyond that, attitude and engagement is just as important. All of the agency girla are beautiful, I don't I think I'd be disappointed with any of them.

My big question is, given my constraints, should I try to prebook an Indy? Or focus on the agencies? Thanks.[/QUOTE]You really can't go wrong with either. Especially at 10 AM to 12 PM in the morning, most of the top girls work during those hours.

You can also pre-book agency girls. Some of the very popular agency girls, they were even fully booked 1-2 days before!

[QUOTE=Dripster12;2392804]First, let me say what a great and active forum you have here. I'm based in Atlanta where we have a very active board as well, and it really makes a difference.

To the matter at hand, I'll be arriving in your fine city on an 8:30 flight on Wednesday, staying at a nice hotel downtown. I'd ideally like to book a 10-12 pm session, or something the next morning as I don't start until noon.

I'm pretty easy going, and I'm not a spinner guy, but I like fit girls preferably with a good rack. Beyond that, attitude and engagement is just as important. All of the agency girla are beautiful, I don't I think I'd be disappointed with any of them.

My big question is, given my constraints, should I try to prebook an Indy? Or focus on the agencies? Thanks.[/QUOTE]For such a short time frame I would prebook with agency. Indy are great but they still have a high level of cancellation. When it happens it's not like agency you have no plan be.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2392857]I really think you will be fine no matter what.

For the morning, xo and Euphoria have a really strong 10 am group that you can book in advance. Just text them in advance (but delete your texts prior to going through border patrol. Just looking at today, xo has five ladies and Euphoria had three ladies who started at 10 am. As with airline flights, there are fewer delays for the first appointment.

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/schedule/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

My favorite independent, April Rose, starts at 10 am and will likely be even more diligent than usual if you tell her you need to start at 10 am due to work constraints.

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/howtobook[/URL]

As for the night before, both Vog and Velvet sometimes have ladies that work late.

TErOnlyOnce might want to take a look at Vog's new very busty Valerie.

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escorts/valerie/[/URL]

And Logan, who I mentioned before, sometimes works late.[/QUOTE]This last line would be suboptimal. Thank you so much for the insight as well. I do have a couple more if you'd indulge me.

1. My flight originates in Toronto, from Dallas earlier in the day. Will that spees up border control?

2. As for transport, I have a car service, and my itinerary says to epect to arrive at the hotel at 9:30. Best case I know. Maybe I can get away with an 11 pm?

Really looking forward to visiting your fine city.

[QUOTE=Kaf003;2392637]Saw about 30 girls this trip. Most of the sessions were pretty average, so I'll only write about the standouts, both good and bad.

Not sure what's going on this year. I make a yearly trip a year to Montreal. In the past couple years, I would have A+++ experiences 75% of the time. This trip, my A+++ experiences were only maybe 10% of the time. Maybe this is an off-year? Out of around 30 girls, only 3 were on my list of must-repeat. Last year, out of 30, I had a list of 20+ must-repeats.

My top stand-outs this trip were:

Bianka at XO. Hot blonde with big tits and wide hips and killer abs. Athletic, sexy, hot, great personality. Great service.

Sandy at Godiva - 18 year old tall slim student. Talkative. Her skills aren't great because she's very young. But she is very pretty and a good time. She will only get better.

Liliana at XO. Hot brunette. Pretty face with big fake tits. Doens't speak much english but she is your quintessential quebec hottie. Great service.[/QUOTE]Wow 30 girls, and now traveling to barcelona and FKKs for more fucking? Sounds like a lot of money being spent. I think for me personally I'd be comfortable fucking a hot girl every day or 3-4 days per week. Don't really see the point of repeat visits to an FKK or other locations around the world just for sex. Would rather set myself up for daily sex at home.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2392857]I really think you will be fine no matter what.

For the morning, xo and Euphoria have a really strong 10 am group that you can book in advance. Just text them in advance (but delete your texts prior to going through border patrol. Just looking at today, xo has five ladies and Euphoria had three ladies who started at 10 am. As with airline flights, there are fewer delays for the first appointment.

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/schedule/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

My favorite independent, April Rose, starts at 10 am and will likely be even more diligent than usual if you tell her you need to start at 10 am due to work constraints.

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/howtobook[/URL]

As for the night before, both Vog and Velvet sometimes have ladies that work late.

TErOnlyOnce might want to take a look at Vog's new very busty Valerie.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. That indy girl you listed requires $300 CAD for an hour compared to the girls you can get at agencies for $220-240. This is why I never liked those "upscale" indy escorts with their fancy sites and all that bullshit. It gets to their head and they mark up prices a lot higher. Just cause they have a fancy site doesn't mean the prices should be raked up and they are "upscale". I feel that a majority of guys would rather get an agency girl. Save money and still have a blast.

Overall montreal looks like a great place for mongering. I already have a feeling that I would love to live there. Banging a hot girl from vogue or xo everyday sounds wonderful. Most of those girls on the sites look very hot. I wonder if it's actually possible to make a lifestyle out of banging out these girls daily. I'll find out as I visit more and if it's true looks like I have to move to montreal LOL.

BTW, some of the girls on vogue and xo have no pictures up. How can you tell what they look like? What's the point of booking them if you can't even see their pics?

[QUOTE=Dripster12;2392930]This last line would be suboptimal. Thank you so much for the insight as well. I do have a couple more if you'd indulge me.

1. My flight originates in Toronto, from Dallas earlier in the day. Will that spees up border control?

2. As for transport, I have a car service, and my itinerary says to epect to arrive at the hotel at 9:30. Best case I know. Maybe I can get away with an 11 pm?

Really looking forward to visiting your fine city.[/QUOTE]I have never done that, but these comments do seem to suggest that your Toronto. Montreal flight will be domestic and will not require you to clear Border Patrol again at Montreal. That is certainly the way it works in Europe. Once those incredibly efficient Swiss folks clear you, the remaining entries into remaining EU countries is a breeze.

[URL]https://www.fodors.com/community/canada/flight-us-to-montreal-via-toronto-customs-immigration-question-s-906154/[/URL]

That will shave off some serious time at the Montreal airport.

TerOnlyOnce, April Rose has been a fantastic escort for me, and I usually purchase some of her special services, so my total bill for her is often even more than her general $60 excess over most agency ladies (I like agency ladies, too, by the way). I have simply made a decision that the expenditure is worthwhile for me occasionally. If it isn't worthwhile for you, you shouldn't choose her. I mentioned her to Dripster because I have seen her as early as 10 am, and you know what you get with her. She does face and body shots. I fact she just did a video on her Twitter site of a couple of play sessions with Cynthia Cox, a provider I want very badly to see if I ever make it to Toronto.

[URL]https://twitter.com/AprilRose_Esc[/URL]

Toronto independents appear to require more screening information than Montreal independents do. I don't know why, it is just something about the culture. In addition to providing a fantastic session with the availability of lots and lots of specialized services, April Rose knows a tremendous number of other escorts, which makes her a valuable contact. So I would be able to use her as a reference perhaps if booking Cynthia.

Most of your posts are from Mexico, I believe. There is simply a greater variance in pricing and service offerings in Canada for sex work in comparison to Mexico. Same with hotels, actually. Some of us like to splurge every once in a while. I love Mexican food, but every dish is a combination of meat, cheese, peppers, sour cream, avocado / guacamole, and flour / corn breading. Paying more for Mexican food doesn't increase the quality or the range of ingredients, and based on the Mexico ISG reports, the same appears to be the case with the hookers. That is fine, but you can't necessarily take that principle and apply it in Canada, where one provider might have a completely different look, style and set of service offerings than another. And Montreal has a tremendous number of restaurants with a lot of variance in the offerings, and sometimes the expensive smoked meat is worth it to me, so I buy it.

[QUOTE=Dripster12;2392930]This last line would be suboptimal. Thank you so much for the insight as well. I do have a couple more if you'd indulge me.

1. My flight originates in Toronto, from Dallas earlier in the day. Will that spees up border control?

2. As for transport, I have a car service, and my itinerary says to epect to arrive at the hotel at 9:30. Best case I know. Maybe I can get away with an 11 pm?

Really looking forward to visiting your fine city.[/QUOTE]1. No Toronto is the worst airport to go through custom. Missed many connections to Montreal because of fucked up Toronto Custom.

2. Yes you can get away with an 11 pm booking. Pre-book it.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2392967]Thanks for the info. That indy girl you listed requires $300 CAD for an hour compared to the girls you can get at agencies for $220-240. This is why I never liked those "upscale" indy escorts with their fancy sites and all that bullshit. It gets to their head and they mark up prices a lot higher. Just cause they have a fancy site doesn't mean the prices should be raked up and they are "upscale". I feel that a majority of guys would rather get an agency girl. Save money and still have a blast.[/QUOTE]It does not work that way. It's supply and demand. The best of them (Sonia, April rose, April McAdam and many more) turned indy and are priced higher simply because they get the booking they want at those price. You are correct that being "upscale" generally does not affect the service. I have an amazing blast with Sabrina at Velvet at 220 just like any "upsaled" girl at 300 or more. That is the beauty of Montreal actually.

Regarding the pics not only that. Some girl are not even on the agency web site I have stopped looking at agency pics long time ago. They mean nothing. But it took some time and a lot of back channeling on the local board.

Cheers,

Met with Catherine recently at their apartment in plateau. Catherine is a GND cutie with a spinner body. Dark hair, dark eyes – very cute. I'the say she's in her mid 20's. Easy to get along, down to earth. I had a nice GFE session. Not sure what's on her menu, since I did not ask for anything extra. Overall I had a nice time and may see her again.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Met with Jessica recently. Jessica is listed as 25 yr old, 5'7", 115 lb. I am not sure if those numbers are current. She is by no means heavy, but she is not a spinner that those numbers indicate. Besides that, she's very down to earth, open minded and eager to please. I did not ask anything outside of GFE menu, so not sure what's on the menu. But she suggested that she's very open minded. Easy to get along. Overall I had a nice time.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2393116]I have never done that, but these comments do seem to suggest that your Toronto. Montreal flight will be domestic and will not require you to clear Border Patrol again at Montreal. That is certainly the way it works in Europe. Once those incredibly efficient Swiss folks clear you, the remaining entries into remaining EU countries is a breeze.

[URL]https://www.fodors.com/community/canada/flight-us-to-montreal-via-toronto-customs-immigration-question-s-906154/[/URL]

That will shave off some serious time at the Montreal airport.

TerOnlyOnce, April Rose has been a fantastic escort for me, and I usually purchase some of her special services, so my total bill for her is often even more than her general $60 excess over most agency ladies (I like agency ladies, too, by the way)..[/QUOTE]Yes I've been to Mexico twice. Tijuana is right next to the border and it's great in that you can fuck perfect 10 Mexican girls for very cheap. Basically any body type that you want. Big tits, Instagram thicc bubble butts, perfect asses, etc. You can fuck it all, typical price is $80 for 20 minutes with a club girl. The service is most of the time mechanical though. I wouldn't recommend it as a long term option for consistent sex. You will get too frustrated and you need to weed out a lot of girls before you can find a few regular escorts that are actually hot and give great service, don't short you time, blow your mind, etc. This is why I'm looking towards other areas for mongering, such as Montreal. Do you live in Montreal and are you currently fucking agency girls daily? What is your opinion on Montreal? Is it a viable place to live for long term sex, no bullshit with the agency girls and can basically get sex every day with good service?

BTW I recommend going to tijuana mexico at least once. Just to see what it's like. It is an experience.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2393190]It does not work that way. It's supply and demand. The best of them (Sonia, April rose, April McAdam and many more) turned indy and are priced higher simply because they get the booking they want at those price. You are correct that being "upscale" generally does not affect the service. I have an amazing blast with Sabrina at Velvet at 220 just like any "upsaled" girl at 300 or more. That is the beauty of Montreal actually.

Regarding the pics not only that. Some girl are not even on the agency web site I have stopped looking at agency pics long time ago. They mean nothing. But it took some time and a lot of back channeling on the local board.

Cheers,[/QUOTE]How do you know what those girls look like on the agency site if they don't have any pics up? Is there a way to find out? I don't want to miss out on some hotties just cause I can't see the pics.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2393116]I love Mexican food, but every dish is a combination of meat, cheese, peppers, sour cream, avocado / guacamole, and flour / corn breading. Paying more for Mexican food doesn't increase the quality or the range of ingredients, and based on the Mexico ISG reports, the same appears to be the case with the hookers.[/QUOTE]I think you are describing something that might be better called Tex-Mex. Without exaggeration, Tex-Mex is probably 95% of the "Mexican" restaurant fare in the USA And Canada.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2393466]How do you know what those girls look like on the agency site if they don't have any pics up? Is there a way to find out? I don't want to miss out on some hotties just cause I can't see the pics.[/QUOTE]You can ask the agency for pictures. VOG and XO give me pictures all the time when the girl doesn't have any agency pics yet. Just text and ask for pics, you will need data on your phone to be able to receive and actually view the pictures.

Also you were asking if Montreal is a good city to get daily sex from escorts and it absolutely is a great city for that. If you have the money for it of course, it adds up quick when each girl is 220+ per hour. I come from out of town and bang 2 or 3 girls per day when I visit and honestly, you get burned out very quickly if you are doing what I do, but I try to get as many girls in as possible each day when I visit, but it's less than optimal. If I lived in Montreal, I would be happy with once per week, maybe twice. Booking the right girl can leave you satisfied for several days. Banging several is nice at first, but almost becomes a chore after a few days. When you bang 10 girls over one weekend, it starts getting tedious.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2393853]You can ask the agency for pictures. VOG and XO give me pictures all the time when the girl doesn't have any agency pics yet. Just text and ask for pics, you will need data on your phone to be able to receive and actually view the pictures.

Also you were asking if Montreal is a good city to get daily sex from escorts and it absolutely is a great city for that. If you have the money for it of course, it adds up quick when each girl is 220+ per hour. I come from out of town and bang 2 or 3 girls per day when I visit and honestly, you get burned out very quickly if you are doing what I do, but I try to get as many girls in as possible each day when I visit, but it's less than optimal. If I lived in Montreal, I would be happy with once per week, maybe twice. Booking the right girl can leave you satisfied for several days. Banging several is nice at first, but almost becomes a chore after a few days. When you bang 10 girls over one weekend, it starts getting tedious.[/QUOTE]Not for me.

My last trip, I stayed for 40 days and saw 2-3 girls per day. Had a blast. Just remember to eat and hydrate between.

You don't even want to know my numbers when I go to FKKs. I usually stay at FKK for 3 days and see 8-10 girls per day. Love this hobby.

[QUOTE=RainCity;2393290]Met with Jessica recently. Jessica is listed as 25 yr old, 5'7", 115 lb. I am not sure if those numbers are current. She is by no means heavy, but she is not a spinner that those numbers indicate. Besides that, she's very down to earth, open minded and eager to please. I did not ask anything outside of GFE menu, so not sure what's on the menu. But she suggested that she's very open minded. Easy to get along. Overall I had a nice time.

Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this story are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure how those numbers indicate spinner at all. If anything, those are GND / model-type stats.

She is 5'7 and maybe 125, but definitely not more than that.

She is GFE and really is open minded, she's told me about some strange fetishes she's entertained.

Hello,

Wanted to know when is it good time to visit. It seems that Dec. January Feb. Will be cold and snowing. Will there still be a lot of girls working also in these cold months?

[QUOTE=Kaf003;2393971]Not for me.

My last trip, I stayed for 40 days and saw 2-3 girls per day. Had a blast. Just remember to eat and hydrate between.

You don't even want to know my numbers when I go to FKKs. I usually stay at FKK for 3 days and see 8-10 girls per day. Love this hobby.[/QUOTE]Yeah those numbers are insane to me. To each their own, if you can bang that many girls and still find each session enjoyable more power to you my friend. For me it just gets boring seeing that many girls in quick succession. I don't want to seem like a buzzkill, I just find that spacing my sessions apart from each other makes each session more enjoyable. I think the other factor is I have very high standards which were set by some of the top girls that Montreal had to offer, and most of my sessions don't measure up to the top 10% of sessions that I've had. For example, if each session I had was on the level of Elie from VOG, then 2 or 3 sessions per day would be perfect. I also saw Ariana from Euphoria and it was such a terrible experience, it makes other star level girls stand out even more.

Having said all that, I can see the appeal in banging 2 or 3 girls per day over a month or so, it's a crazy experience that very few men get to ever have, and if you have the funds to make it happen, well shit. Have fun and godspeed haha.

BTW, how do FKK's compare to Montreal agency girls? Never tried FKK's, do you think it's something that is a must try at least once? Also, you mentioned in your trip report that you saw other great girls but they asked not to be reviewed, could you at least list their names? You don't have to give any details besides their name (PM is ok), it seems that you and I have a similar taste, I've seen several of the same girls and agree with you about their ranking for the most part, thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2393990]Yeah those numbers are insane to me. To each their own, if you can bang that many girls and still find each session enjoyable more power to you my friend. For me it just gets boring seeing that many girls in quick succession. I don't want to seem like a buzzkill, I just find that spacing my sessions apart from each other makes each session more enjoyable. I think the other factor is I have very high standards which were set by some of the top girls that Montreal had to offer, and most of my sessions don't measure up to the top 10% of sessions that I've had. For example, if each session I had was on the level of Elie from VOG, then 2 or 3 sessions per day would be perfect. I also saw Ariana from Euphoria and it was such a terrible experience, it makes other star level girls stand out even more.[/QUOTE]Funny, I had same experience with both girls.

Last 2 years (2017 and 2018), I would say 75%+ of all my encounters were as good as Elie or better. Can you imagine that? Elie wasn't even in my top 15 last year and she was amazing. There were at least 10-15 girls just as good as Elie my last visits. It was really hard to stop and leave Montreal.

My 2019 Montreal trip was much less fruitful. I think it's a seasonal thing though. My last two trips were in the summer, and it was a very good visit. However, this year, I came later in the year, I am guessing that during the winter, it is quieter, so the top girls aren't working. Actually, I really do think this is the case (I texted several of my previous year ATFs and they were all traveling outside Montreal).

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2393990]Having said all that, I can see the appeal in banging 2 or 3 girls per day over a month or so, it's a crazy experience that very few men get to ever have, and if you have the funds to make it happen, well shit. Have fun and godspeed haha.[/QUOTE]You know what. You are right. It started getting a little tedious near the end of my trip because of all the mediocre visits this year. However, I found 2-3 hidden gems and 2 popular girls became available (they had returned from vacation) near the end of my trip and it revitalized me. And yes, I am very fortunate that funds are not too big of an issue.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2393990]BTW, how do FKK's compare to Montreal agency girls? Never tried FKK's, do you think it's something that is a must try at least once? Also, you mentioned in your trip report that you saw other great girls but they asked not to be reviewed, could you at least list their names? You don't have to give any details besides their name (PM is ok), it seems that you and I have a similar taste, I've seen several of the same girls and agree with you about their ranking for the most part, thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]FKKs are a must-visit for any monger, IMO. I have seen some top notch gorgeous girls. Obviously, just like Montreal or any other place, you'll have to wade through some before you find a gem, but you will find many.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2392967]Sounds like a lot of money being spent. I think for me personally I'd be comfortable fucking a hot girl every day or 3-4 days per week. Don't really see the point of repeat visits to an FKK or other locations around the world just for sex. Would rather set myself up for daily sex at home.[/QUOTE]I'm a consultant, so funds are not too big of a problem, especially at 220 CAD / hour or 100 Euro / hour. I am also not traveling just for sex, when did I say that? I travel very frequently for my job.

After Montreal, Barcelona, and Germany, I am stuck in Tokyo for a good 4 weeks, which I am not a fan of mongering in. So another reason I am getting it out of my system now.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2393853]You can ask the agency for pictures. VOG and XO give me pictures all the time when the girl doesn't have any agency pics yet. Just text and ask for pics, you will need data on your phone to be able to receive and actually view the pictures.

Also you were asking if Montreal is a good city to get daily sex from escorts and it absolutely is a great city for that. If you have the money for it of course, it adds up quick when each girl is 220+ per hour. I come from out of town and bang 2 or 3 girls per day when I visit and honestly, you get burned out very quickly if you are doing what I do, but I try to get as many girls in as possible each day when I visit, but it's less than optimal. If I lived in Montreal, I would be happy with once per week, maybe twice. Booking the right girl can leave you satisfied for several days. Banging several is nice at first, but almost becomes a chore after a few days. When you bang 10 girls over one weekend, it starts getting tedious.[/QUOTE]The pricing is $220 CAD for an hour right? That's almost $170 USD which is not bad. For that much you could only get 30 minutes with some crackhead junkie girl in the states. So 1 hour with a hottie sounds good.

For me I would say fucking a hot girl once a day would be perfect. I probably wouldn't do it year round, but having the option to call up a hottie every day if I so desire is awesome. And yes if you do decide to life this lifestyle you will need the funds. Putting together 30-40 k a year just for sex isn't that hard though to be honest. Especially if you're a business owner and have your own company.

[QUOTE=Kaf003;2393971]Not for me.

My last trip, I stayed for 40 days and saw 2-3 girls per day. Had a blast. Just remember to eat and hydrate between.

You don't even want to know my numbers when I go to FKKs. I usually stay at FKK for 3 days and see 8-10 girls per day. Love this hobby.

I'm not sure how those numbers indicate spinner at all. If anything, those are GND / model-type stats.

She is 5'7 and maybe 125, but definitely not more than that.

She is GFE and really is open minded, she's told me about some strange fetishes she's entertained.[/QUOTE]Yeah 2-3 girls per day consistently is a looooot. I've done that in Mexico. Yeah it's fun when you're there for like 2 nights or a week and trying to bang the desire out of your system. But I'm looking for consistency to be honest. A steady rate of good sex, rather than this epic avalanche of sex back to back. It makes sense to do the rampage of sex if you don't live in the area and just visiting.

As for FKKs: I've never been but I heard it's like a sex hotel / sauna? Like you have a lot of girls on you as you're lounging and you can basically fuck whichever one. It sounds cool but I personally don't think I'the like it much. I like the structure of a one on one fuck session with an escort. FKKs seem "party-like" which I don't like. I also heard it's easy to get upsold on stuff and get mediocre service cause in general it's a more "chaotic" environment. Another problem is I don't know how many girls there actually speak English LOL. Going in with absolutely 0 knowledge of German probly won't be as fun.

[QUOTE=Bsizzle123;2393981]Hello,

Wanted to know when is it good time to visit. It seems that Dec. January Feb. Will be cold and snowing. Will there still be a lot of girls working also in these cold months?[/QUOTE]Yes it can be cold but hotel will be much cheaper then in the summer. And yes enough girl will be working don't worry. And easier to book them as they have much fewer calls then summer / fall.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Bsizzle123;2393981]Wanted to know when is it good time to visit. It seems that Dec. January Feb. Will be cold and snowing. Will there still be a lot of girls working also in these cold months?[/QUOTE]There is no way Montreal in the winter can be as fun as the summer. It's great just walking around the various neighborhoods. There's also many summer events and festivals.

Hopefully, Jalimon or cloudsurf both active locals will respond. I myself have never noticed a big drop off in MTL girls working in the winter. If you are from Montreal (or other parts of Canada), cold winters are just a part of life.

There are a few advantages to visiting in the winter. Montreal Canadians hockey and much lower hotel / AirBnB rates. There's also probably less Americans coming to monger.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2394160]The pricing is $220 CAD for an hour right? That's almost $170 USD which is not bad. For that much you could only get 30 minutes with some crackhead junkie girl in the states. So 1 hour with a hottie sounds good.

For me I would say fucking a hot girl once a day would be perfect. I probably wouldn't do it year round, but having the option to call up a hottie every day if I so desire is awesome. And yes if you do decide to life this lifestyle you will need the funds. Putting together 30-40 k a year just for sex isn't that hard though to be honest. Especially if you're a business owner and have your own company.

Yeah 2-3 girls per day consistently is a looooot. I've done that in Mexico. Yeah it's fun when you're there for like 2 nights or a week and trying to bang the desire out of your system. But I'm looking for consistency to be honest. A steady rate of good sex, rather than this epic avalanche of sex back to back. It makes sense to do the rampage of sex if you don't live in the area and just visiting.

As for FKKs: I've never been but I heard it's like a sex hotel / sauna? Like you have a lot of girls on you as you're lounging and you can basically fuck whichever one. It sounds cool but I personally don't think I'the like it much. I like the structure of a one on one fuck session with an escort. FKKs seem "party-like" which I don't like. I also heard it's easy to get upsold on stuff and get mediocre service cause in general it's a more "chaotic" environment. Another problem is I don't know how many girls there actually speak English LOL. Going in with absolutely 0 knowledge of German probly won't be as fun.[/QUOTE]Hi TerOnlyOnce,

At most of the FKK's, language is not a problem for non German speakers. English is widely used in most of the FKKs, you usually get an option to use English or German. English is only an issue at some of the rural ones like Arabella. Not too much upselling when I went to the FKKs, but it does happen sometimes. I found the FKK experience really fun (except for Arabella Arabella was not good. For other reasons and not just the language barrier) and found some really good providers in the FKKs.

Some of them like Samya are "party like" but others have a more relaxed vibe.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2394166]Yes it can be cold but hotel will be much cheaper then in the summer. And yes enough girl will be working don't worry. And easier to book them as they have much fewer calls then summer / fall.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Would you suggest Dec, I'm looking into Dec. 6th or 13th weekend, don't know which date really? Because I know January and Feb. Is a lot colder then December.

Unfortunately it appears that I can't actually book the girls I want. On vogue there are 2-3 girls that I'd love to see, but they are found no where on the weekly schedules. Knew it was too good to be true LOL. Was expecting a seamless process, but the reality is, most girls up on there work so infrequently that you won't be able to bang the really enticing girls often even if you wanted to. Instead. Every week they have girls that look subpar in my opinion. For example, the schedule for vogue today and the next few days, all those girls I would never want to pay money to see. I don't like their body figures at all. Yet this is all that is available. How saddening.

Oh well, I'll try to get at least 2, maybe 3 girls that I'm really into. If I'm lucky.

Almost impossible to schedule a girl 3-4 days in advance. Literally all the schedules have no girls on for like 3 days from now. For some reason the schedule is flooded for today. So guys are booking literally same days right when their dick is hard? Seems really inconsistent. If you can only book the day of then. That is really dumb. How the hell are you suppose to plan anything. You can't even plan out what girl you are seeing on what day. It's just all random. And 80% of the girls look like they have anorexia. They are all twigs and bones. Vogue has tons of "models" on their page, but their schedule only shows like 6 girls? What is this nonsense. Wow so ridiculous.

I literally can't plan for my trip LOL. Cause I don't know what girls are really working that day. So I can't make a good choice LOL. I'm looking at broken / busted ass schedules for tomorrow and Sunday. It's all bullshit because all the fuckin girls put their schedule up last minute.

So there's not even a point to plan it. Fuck it LOL. Fuck this stupid shit LOL.

This is a public service announcement that should be reached to all mongers interested in coming to montreal for sex. One thing you should know is that vogue escort agency is arguably participating in false advertising.

If you go to their website here: [URL]http://vogmtl.com/[/URL] you will see tons of girls in their "our ladies" section. There are a couple on there that look great and you would love to hook up with. Here is the kicker though, most of the girls on that list, are not available.

Yes, that is 100% true. A good amount of girls you see there, you will be unable to book for a session. Meaning, these girls are being used for false advertisement purposes. Why do I say you won't be able to book them? Because if you take a look at their profiles, you will see that half of these girls have only worked 1 day in the whole month! Meaning, yes they were available, but for literally one day only. And then they are kept on the site for weeks and weeks! This is literally false advertising! These girls aren't on the site for booking. They are just put up on the site to inflate the appearance that vogue agency has "a lot of hot ladies available", they don't!

It is very dishonest in my opinion. There are a handful of girls I see on there right now that look absolutely hot but you won't be able to book them and they won't be available. So what's the point of continuing to have their profiles up? I literally can't book from vogue escorts because they offer practically no girls. And when they do, the girls put their schedule up last minute. Take a look at Sunday's schedule, they only have 6 girl up that all look very subpar, anorexic, and 6 out of 10's.

Xo escorts I'll admit their girls aren't much better but at least they have volume. For Sunday then have double, nearly triple what vogue has. This is important. Most people don't like booking last minute which is what vogue pushes! We don't all have the convenience of making an appointment same day in like 1 hour from now, doesn't work like that. And that's what these girls at vogue do. I do not recommend vogue agency because of this reason.

Xo escorts has volume which is great, there girls look questionable but you can surely find at least 1 on the schedule that is as close to your tastes as possible.

Euphoria escorts is completely useless since they only list for today. Which is extremely fucking dumb in my opinion. Do they think people have no lives or are they just catering to locals? Also, all of their girls, yes literally all of their girls are anorexic and look like they weigh 80 pounds, it's really disgusting to be honest. So yeah, I've basically ruled them completely out.

Xxx tase is not bad. But I have a feeling all their pics are bait and switch. Meaning the girls look pretty good in the photos, but in real life they look completely different. Booked a girl from them and wouldn't be surprised if it's bait and switch to be honest.

And velvet. They have like 2 girls in their entire agency. Not really a legitimate agency. I tried to book logan but the guy tells me he has no availability for her at all hahahah what a fucking joke. Okay I guess no more logan LOL.

So yeah. I booked 2 appointments. First one xxx tase and second one xo escorts. Literally on the second day of my trip I need to wake up at like 8 am and check vogue's website to see if I can book a girl I actually like rofl. Cause they never put up schedules in advance, they always wait same day to put the girls up and it's very frustrating. If I can't find anything I like same day then I will forget about vogue and see my xo girl that night then call it a day.

Only 2 girls on my trip cause there's no god damn options. Now I know how someone can fuck 40 girls here and have 80% of them be sub par experiences. That's exactly what you're getting when you look at the line up for today on vogue LOL. In my opinion, there is no point to pay for a sub par experience or sub par girl. I could just get that in real life for much cheaper. I'm here to actually bang really hot attractive girls, not pay for a 6/10 anorexic girl, that's stupid.

You mean to tell me they're not waiting for your call. They must not know how to run a business.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395174]I literally can't plan for my trip LOL. Cause I don't know what girls are really working that day. So I can't make a good choice LOL. I'm looking at broken / busted ass schedules for tomorrow and Sunday. It's all bullshit because all the fuckin girls put their schedule up last minute.

So there's not even a point to plan it. Fuck it LOL. Fuck this stupid shit LOL.[/QUOTE]I only can go for a Friday and Saturday, so your saying I have to get lucky and go with whatever is available that day, and book way in advance? Like 7 am haha.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395174]I literally can't plan for my trip LOL. Cause I don't know what girls are really working that day. So I can't make a good choice LOL. I'm looking at broken / busted ass schedules for tomorrow and Sunday. It's all bullshit because all the fuckin girls put their schedule up last minute.

So there's not even a point to plan it. Fuck it LOL. Fuck this stupid shit LOL.[/QUOTE]What the fuck are you talking about?

XO has 15 (15!) girl scheduled tomorow and Sunday. Vogue 6 tomorrow 8 Sunday. Euhporia will most probably have 15 also tomorrow and Sunday. That's not enough? Not even mention all great MP's and smaller agency options.

There is no problem with last minute day before booking as long as you have done your homework.

[QUOTE=Bsizzle123;2395237]I only can go for a Friday and Saturday, so your saying I have to get lucky and go with whatever is available that day, and book way in advance? Like 7 am haha.[/QUOTE]Allow me to explain, the agencies are lying to you. They don't actually have all those girls on their "models" page. It's all a lie, don't get too excited when you see a girl that you'the love to bang on their sites. Cause chances are, you won't be able to book her. The girl makes up her own schedule, and it gets updated last minute, which fucking sucks for people like you and I that are planning trips and are only there for a few nights.

You can't book in advance. Fucking piece of shit vogue wouldn't let me do it. You can only book the same day. You have to go off of what is on the schedule on their site. If you look at the schedule there's only like 6 girls on for tomorrow. It's fucking bullshit. You basically can only select from those 6 girls. Which is why vogue engages in false advertising. They are lying to you. They don't really have those hot girls on their websites. Far from it. Those hot girls can work one day in a month and they stay on the site. The longer they are there, the more these agencies lie and mislead potential customers like me and you. We think we are going to fuck some really hot girls, then we see the schedule and it's 3 anorexic that weigh 70 pounds each with no tits and no ass. Fucking disgusting and nasty. No idea how that is the standard of beauty. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395190]This is a public service announcement that should be reached to all mongers interested in coming to montreal for sex. [/QUOTE]Have you actually tried reaching out to any of these agencies or are you just yelling for the sake of enjoyment?

You should know that a lot of good ladies are indies. You may want to give that a try since they are easily booked in advance. (as are agencies, if you contact them).

Lastly, it sounds like you are looking for larger / BBW ladies. You should know that there's less of a market for that type of thing as most men prefer girls who are in at least relatively good form.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2395289]Have you actually tried reaching out to any of these agencies or are you just yelling for the sake of enjoyment?

You should know that a lot of good ladies are indies. You may want to give that a try since they are easily booked in advance. (as are agencies, if you contact them).

Lastly, it sounds like you are looking for larger / BBW ladies. You should know that there's less of a market for that type of thing as most men prefer girls who are in at least relatively good form.[/QUOTE]Yes I have been in contact with all of these agencies. The experience has caused me to write my previous posts.

Please can you direct me to a site where I can find a list of indie girls with their pics that I can book? I tried merb but you can't see their pics before opening a thread so it takes a lot of time to find potential girls. I tried google and not really any girls that I would want on there.

The problem I'm running into a lot is that 95% of girls on merb and at agencies look like they have anorexia, like 90 pounds. I don't know how someone can say this is "good form"? The girls look malnourished. Literally just bones with a little skin on top. No ass whatsoever. No tits. Do guys actually like this stuff? Banging a girl with no ass to speak of at all?

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2395265]What the fuck are you talking about?

XO has 15 (15!) girl scheduled tomorow and Sunday. Vogue 6 tomorrow 8 Sunday. Euhporia will most probably have 15 also tomorrow and Sunday. That's not enough? Not even mention all great MP's and smaller agency options.

There is no problem with last minute day before booking as long as you have done your homework.[/QUOTE]Are you honestly saying you see no problem with last minute booking? I think most people would prefer to book a few days in advance with a girl. I personally do not like booking same day, that seems very very dumb and definitely caters to impulse buyers that make decisions while they have a raging erection.

On top of that, last minute booking is terrible for tourists which I believe is most people here. How am I suppose to get the most value from my trip? I don't even know what girls will be on tomorrow because the full schedule isn't uploaded until last minute!! So in theory, there is literally no point to make a decision in advance. You basically have to wait until the same day to get an accurate list to book from. And even then, you have to refresh the page throughout the day to see if any better or hotter girls become available last minute?? It's total bullshit.

The full schedule should be uploaded at least 2 days in advance, 3 days is better, not this last minute shit. That way, people can actually book fucking appointments in advance with these girls, instead of raging dick syndrome in the middle of the night and deciding they need to see a girl.

In terms of the agencies: yes xo has a lot of girls on the schedule, great. Main problem though is almost all the girls are anorexic, but this is a problem for all the agencies across the board.

Vogue is garbage. They remind me of like the "apple" of technology or "upscale" call girls in the states that charge $1,000 for 90 minutes. Basically over inflated, over-ego, when in reality they are basic and maybe even complete shit. Just judging from the schedule. 6 girls tomorrow? And xo has double or triple that? Yeah fuck that 6 girl shit.

Euphoria is basically useless. They only show girls for today, which is worthless. Catering to horny guys with their cocks in their hand basically, really dumb. Also 100% of their girls are anorexic at 70 pounds each, so yeah, basically an irrelevant agency.

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Hey all,

Last time I was 20 years ago and the memory that is etched into my brain is of the Grand Prix club in Richelieu (where you walked in and porn was on all the TV's and the dancers were the hottest chicks on the planet. I shed a tear when I found out it closed down but now that I'm heading back up I was wondering, how does the Bar LE Gentlemen compare? Close? Worth a stop? Let me know what you think.

Thanks,

Dupplehouse.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395286]Allow me to explain, the agencies are lying to you. They don't actually have all those girls on their "models" page. It's all a lie, don't get too excited when you see a girl that you'the love to bang on their sites. Cause chances are, you won't be able to book her.[/QUOTE]Why would you think all 100 girls are available at any given moment? Are you dumb? No shit they won't be available. That's why you look at the schedule.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395286]The girl makes up her own schedule, and it gets updated last minute, which fucking sucks for people like you and I that are planning trips and are only there for a few nights.[/QUOTE]Vogue schedules are usually set 2-3 days in advance. Sometimes, 1-2 last minute additions will happen.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395286]You can't book in advance. Fucking piece of shit vogue wouldn't let me do it. You can only book the same day.[/QUOTE]I have no problems booking in advance. But I am a repeat client. Also, I prebooked with them my first time in Montreal and they were very accomodating. I guess the "don't be a dick" rule applies.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395286]You have to go off of what is on the schedule on their site.[/QUOTE]Yes? What. Is the problem you're crying about?

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395286]If you look at the schedule there's only like 6 girls on for tomorrow. It's fucking bullshit. You basically can only select from those 6 girls.[/QUOTE]Yes. What is the problem?

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395286]Which is why vogue engages in false advertising. They are lying to you. They don't really have those hot girls on their websites. Far from it. Those hot girls can work one day in a month and they stay on the site.[/QUOTE]These are 18-19 year old students. They are not always working. Sometimes they work in the summer, sometimes they travel for spring break, sometimes they need cash and they come work once in a while.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395190]Now I know how someone can fuck 40 girls here and have 80% of them be sub par experiences. That's exactly what you're getting when you look at the line up for today on vogue LOL.[/QUOTE]You're quoting my post and you're misrepresenting what I wrote.

Out of the 40, I had 8-10 outstanding experiences. Reread it.

I also said that in 2017 and 2018, out of 40-50 Montreal girls each summer, 75% were A+. This year, I came in the winter, and it seems to be a little slower in the winter.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395286]Allow me to explain, the agencies are lying to you. They don't actually have all those girls on their "models" page. It's all a lie, don't get too excited when you see a girl that you'the love to bang on their sites. Cause chances are, you won't be able to book her. The girl makes up her own schedule, and it gets updated last minute, which fucking sucks for people like you and I that are planning trips and are only there for a few nights.

You can't book in advance. Fucking piece of shit vogue wouldn't let me do it. You can only book the same day. You have to go off of what is on the schedule on their site. If you look at the schedule there's only like 6 girls on for tomorrow. It's fucking bullshit. You basically can only select from those 6 girls. Which is why vogue engages in false advertising. They are lying to you. They don't really have those hot girls on their websites. Far from it. Those hot girls can work one day in a month and they stay on the site. The longer they are there, the more these agencies lie and mislead potential customers like me and you. We think we are going to fuck some really hot girls, then we see the schedule and it's 3 anorexic bitches that weigh 70 pounds each with no tits and no ass. Fucking disgusting and nasty. No idea how that is the standard of beauty. Like where the fuck are the thick bitches? Despicable.[/QUOTE]Some girls are booked by regulars. I am one of the regulars. You tourists get what's left. As simple as that.

Most of these girls in the major agencies in Montreal do this as a part time job. They are attending university or have a daytime full time job. They schedule agency work to fit in with other demands.

Some guys in the States may be used to girls who do this line of work full time. In Montreal they make the rules and you can chose to accept their scheduling or go elsewhere. The major agencies have plenty of girls who are booked solid. I have seen plenty of girls from Vogue and they are not all anorexic. I have never had a problem with booking and their service is great. There is no false advertising because again most of these girls do this part time. They are not working every day.

The problem with an advance schedule, that I have learned, is that some guys will book girls from XO on Monday for later in the week, and then if someone else more desireable pops up later in the week, will cancel the original appointment. So if someone is frustrated because they can't book in advance, think of the girls who lose appointments they thought they had booked.

[QUOTE=Bsizzle123;2394931]Would you suggest Dec, I'm looking into Dec. 6th or 13th weekend, don't know which date really? Because I know January and Feb. Is a lot colder then December.[/QUOTE]I think December is a great time to visit Montreal. I went last year and got to see some popular girls who I was unable to see in summer because they were booked solid. And I booked them on the same day without any problem. Frankly there are so many nice girls, you won't have a problem booking a nice one the same day in December. But I would avoid Christmas and Boxing day.

Hotel rates are much lower in December. Using one of the online discount hotel services, you should be able to get a 4 star hotel for under $100 a night. And there are plenty of other activities. Fireworks on Saturday at the Old Port (usually starting around 12/14), Cirque du Soleil at Centre Belle, Casse Noisette at Placedesarts, the light show at night in Quartier des Spectacles, the small Christmas villages set up in the small parks.

Just remember to dress warmly even if the weather report shows warm weather for Montreal for the December weekend. It can change quickly. Also there is a whole underground city to explore if it gets too cold.

Works both ways. Would Teronlyonce be Ok with sending a deposit to ensure his chosen girls shows? Unlikely.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2395469]Most of these girls in the major agencies in Montreal do this as a part time job. They are attending university or have a daytime full time job. They schedule agency work to fit in with other demands.
So if someone is frustrated because they can't book in advance, think of the girls who lose appointments they thought they had booked.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JaliscoState;2395393]Some girls are booked by regulars. I am one of the regulars. You tourists get what's left. As simple as that.[/QUOTE]The Montreal agencies or independents do not show favoritism toward locals in comparison to tourists.

Guys from the USA are a huge portion of their revenue.

Don't take this troublemaking bait and discourage people from visiting Montreal.

The big agencies do what is called marketing branding. It doesn't matter that much who you chose because all the ladies are similar in looks and performance and service offerings. They don't have a lot of heavy-set ladies with giant breasts (to go along with other thick parts) since that is not their "brand". Their aren't as many thick girls in Montreal as in Mexico and other poor countries, because the First World diet is lower in carbs and more importantly lower in meats where the animals were given growth hormones that cause abnormally large breast development. And for the sake of the ladies health, thank god for that. And it helps with their long-term earnings also, since they can be attractive for a longer period of time.

Booking way in advance is not a big part of the Montreal agency scene.

For independents, where there is a greater variance in ages, body styles and service offerings, it is a bigger deal.

But the guy creating all of this trouble was not interested in independents due to their slightly higher prices.

And to the guy saying he was comparing Montreal to the USA, he was not. His comparisons were Montreal to Mexico, particularly Tijuana.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2395469]Most of these girls in the major agencies in Montreal do this as a part time job. They are attending university or have a daytime full time job. They schedule agency work to fit in with other demands.

Some guys in the States may be used to girls who do this line of work full time. In Montreal they make the rules and you can chose to accept their scheduling or go elsewhere. The major agencies have plenty of girls who are booked solid. I have seen plenty of girls from Vogue and they are not all anorexic. I have never had a problem with booking and their service is great. There is no false advertising because again most of these girls do this part time. They are not working every day.

The problem with an advance schedule, that I have learned, is that some guys will book girls from XO on Monday for later in the week, and then if someone else more desireable pops up later in the week, will cancel the original appointment. So if someone is frustrated because they can't book in advance, think of the girls who lose appointments they thought they had booked.[/QUOTE]Well said. I think TerOnlyOnce 's problem is he probably exchange with the agency the same way he is writing here. Which is quite rude. Booker will spot dude like that fast and ignore them quickly.

When you get yourself known from these bookers as a good and reliable client they will pre-book girl for you. Even agencies that supposedly do not pre book. You learn that when you organize 3 some or mini party with a few guys / girls.

Now girl being girl. Being young and yes on the rebel side (they would do another line of work if they were not a bit rebellious) you always need a plan B because last minute cancellation will happen. Probably 1 out of 5 of your booking. If not more sometimes. You have to plan to deal with that.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2395473]I think December is a great time to visit Montreal. I went last year and got to see some popular girls who I was unable to see in summer because they were booked solid. And I booked them on the same day without any problem. Frankly there are so many nice girls, you won't have a problem booking a nice one the same day in December. But I would avoid Christmas and Boxing day.

Hotel rates are much lower in December. Using one of the online discount hotel services, you should be able to get a 4 star hotel for under $100 a night. And there are plenty of other activities. Fireworks on Saturday at the Old Port (usually starting around 12/14), Cirque du Soleil at Centre Belle, Casse Noisette at Placedesarts, the light show at night in Quartier des Spectacles, the small Christmas villages set up in the small parks.

Just remember to dress warmly even if the weather report shows warm weather for Montreal for the December weekend. It can change quickly. Also there is a whole underground city to explore if it gets too cold.[/QUOTE]December is absolutely great time to be in the city of Montreal. Many girl will work a lot to get more money for Christmas holiday. January / February can still be good in regards to low price and girl not being booked much.

The problem with the Summer is many girl barely working. They get a few shift in just to get enough money to then hop from music festival or to some vacation. In August you have more chance to hit SP at the Pointe-Callumet Beach Club north of montreal then at popular agencies.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395286]Allow me to explain, the agencies are lying to you. They don't actually have all those girls on their "models" page. It's all a lie, don't get too excited when you see a girl that you'the love to bang on their sites. Cause chances are, you won't be able to book her. The girl makes up her own schedule, and it gets updated last minute, which fucking sucks for people like you and I that are planning trips and are only there for a few nights.

You can't book in advance. Fucking piece of shit vogue wouldn't let me do it. You can only book the same day. You have to go off of what is on the schedule on their site. If you look at the schedule there's only like 6 girls on for tomorrow. It's fucking bullshit. You basically can only select from those 6 girls. Which is why vogue engages in false advertising. They are lying to you. They don't really have those hot girls on their websites. Far from it. Those hot girls can work one day in a month and they stay on the site. The longer they are there, the more these agencies lie and mislead potential customers like me and you. We think we are going to fuck some really hot girls, then we see the schedule and it's 3 anorexic bitches that weigh 70 pounds each with no tits and no ass. Fucking disgusting and nasty. No idea how that is the standard of beauty. Like where the fuck are the thick bitches? Despicable.[/QUOTE]Type indycompanion twitter. You should see many thick or non skinny girls this way throughout Canada.

Personally, I feel like booking were easier prior to Mike's Mansuon being absorbed. Maybe it's just everything has reached a sort of peak polularity. Someone on the green mentioned more indepedants advetising than ever, and indpedants being strictly on twitter and no where else. The only lady I'm seeing right now is one of those people, actually. In any event, I don't think you can call a list of who is available that day relative to the full list of employees at an agency false advertising. Everyone has their own schedule and life to live.

For advance booking of anyone popular, I would say give-up because those girls have local regulars who fill that spot. Last minute is all tou would get with them, if you're lucy. The heart of winter is ideal for that, since even if we're use to the cold, it can still stifle our urges to go out.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2395473]I think December is a great time to visit Montreal. I went last year and got to see some popular girls who I was unable to see in summer because they were booked solid. And I booked them on the same day without any problem. Frankly there are so many nice girls, you won't have a problem booking a nice one the same day in December. But I would avoid Christmas and Boxing day.

Hotel rates are much lower in December. Using one of the online discount hotel services, you should be able to get a 4 star hotel for under $100 a night. And there are plenty of other activities. Fireworks on Saturday at the Old Port (usually starting around 12/14), Cirque du Soleil at Centre Belle, Casse Noisette at Placedesarts, the light show at night in Quartier des Spectacles, the small Christmas villages set up in the small parks.

Just remember to dress warmly even if the weather report shows warm weather for Montreal for the December weekend. It can change quickly. Also there is a whole underground city to explore if it gets too cold.[/QUOTE]Thanks Tnewton for all your help. After your review, I just booked my montreal flight and hotel today. Staying 2 nights so hopefully that weekend will have some girls that I like. Most of the girls now on euphoria vog and Xo, I like these types of girls. Skinny, 5 ft 3 inches and taller. Wish me luck.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2395575]Type indycompanion twitter. You should see many thick or non skinny girls this way throughout Canada.

Personally, I feel like booking were easier prior to Mike's Mansuon being absorbed. Maybe it's just everything has reached a sort of peak polularity. Someone on the green mentioned more indepedants advetising than ever, and indpedants being strictly on twitter and no where else. The only lady I'm seeing right now is one of those people, actually. In any event, I don't think you can call a list of who is available that day relative to the full list of employees at an agency false advertising. Everyone has their own schedule and life to live.

For advance booking of anyone popular, I would say give-up because those girls have local regulars who fill that spot. Last minute is all tou would get with them, if you're lucy. The heart of winter is ideal for that, since even if we're use to the cold, it can still stifle our urges to go out.[/QUOTE]He was advised many pages ago that certain independents would best fit what he was interested in as far as body type goes, but he said they were way too expensive and somehow uppity for having their own fancy websites.

[QUOTE=DuppleHouse;2395374]Hey all,

Last time I was 20 years ago and the memory that is etched into my brain is of the Grand Prix club in Richelieu (where you walked in and porn was on all the TV's and the dancers were the hottest chicks on the planet. I shed a tear when I found out it closed down but now that I'm heading back up I was wondering, how does the Bar LE Gentlemen compare? Close? Worth a stop? Let me know what you think.

Thanks,

Dupplehouse.[/QUOTE]My first trip to Montreal was 2001 and I made a visit to the Grand Prix and loved it. I haven't been to LeGentlemen in years but it is a lot like the Grand Prix. I do escorts these days. The service is a lot better with Montreal escorts but I have to say that I enjoyed my visits to both these places. I think that LeGentlemen (as I remember) was just a half a step down from Grand Prix. But Nostelgia is a seductive liar. I'll never forget how beautiful the woman were. Only my first visit to FKK Oase would beat that feeling.

Hi everyone. First I just want to apologize for my posts earlier. I was honestly very new to the process and got a little disappointed and got carried away. The process is not that bad. Usually on the day before the schedule is somewhat rounded out so I would recommend booking the night before. I enjoyed my first night here yesterday and I saw one girl. The experience with her was not too good as I will review below. I also want to mention that I did try to book an indy that I found from [URL]https://www.indycompanion.com/.[/URL] I was texting with her and found out she requires a deposit. I didn't see the point to pay it when vogue and xo will let me book with no problems and no deposit, so I passed on the indy. Plus, she was actually a bit more expensive then the agencies, $250 CAD.

Now for the review: I saw Tara from XXXtase and she was not that great. I just want to say that I went into this very objectively and have communicated with the agencies and girl thus far in a very down to earth and casual way. I do have some courtesy and for the most part am not a loud idiot. That being said, I personally did not enjoy my session with Tara to the best extent. Yes she has huge titties which is why I was excited to book her. They are very big, one tit is almost as big as the size of your head if you are into that. They are fake tits. It was all great and I got to titty fuck her for sometime, but in general she didn't have a solid attitude towards the session. She didn't allow any kissing and no BBBJ. I was surprised, thought BBBJ was the standard? She also didn't take her pants off during the session. I was mainly there to titty fuck her huge tits which is what I wanted and got to do. But there was not even an offer or gesture towards sex. In fact, she was actually encouraging me to cum after 10 minutes in the session.

Tara from XXXtase in a terrible provider. I highly recommend to avoid her if you want to save your money. I really feel that I should put this up there and make this public. Some guys would really benefit to know this information. Let me be the Guinea pig, let me take one for the team and waste my money for you, and give you the information so you don't have to find out yourself. She is awful. Yes her tits are huge, but really you won't be able to enjoy them as much as you would like. You can tell she has restrictions. It was so awkward because I wanted to do more, I wanted to really enjoy her tits, but I knew she wouldn't let me. And when I did try to enjoy them, she backed off towards the end. She does not want to please you, she does not care about that or you, she just wants to deliver sub par experience, and leave. She complained a lot about me rubbing her tits. She complains to me and says she hates it when people touch her tits!

Half way into the session, she wouldn't let me titty fuck her anymore and told me I could jerk off to her tits as she put them in my face. She has huge tits but she doesn't like to use them very much. Again, she says she hates it when guys touch her tits. If you like huge tits guys, she is not the one for you. Way too many restrictions, isn't interested in ensuring your desires are met, just wants you to cum quickly so she can leave. In fact, she actually left 12 minutes early. This was a problem in tijuana as well, girls leaving early. I mean, honestly it worked out cause I was able to make it to this restaurant before it closed. But in general, she was really bad. I wonder if most girls leave 10-15 minutes early? Yes I track the time each session starts. I wish the girls would just uphold their commitment and stay and deliver.

Another thing, she ate some of the stuff I had in my hotel room without asking me first. And she used a lot of my lube, like gushing tons of it. It's interesting, I paid her $200 CAD and this is how she treats me? This is how she treats clients? I know as a client I have to be respectful and courtesy as well, but for christ sake I'm paying her $200 CAD. I should be able to get an experience that I really like and really am into.

In short, I would not see her ever again, and recommend others to not see her either. I will be compiling a list of reviews, mainly bad reviews and will be posting them on here and maybe merb down the line. This list will serve as a guide for the providers that you should avoid and not see again. Even if you don't agree with the list I would still read it just to be informed.

I have 3 girls I will see today. 2 vogue and 1 xo. I'm planning 1 more xo girl tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully it all goes well.

What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.

So far my trip has been good. I saw Amira from vogue earlier today. She is a very nice girl. If anyone is on the fence about her I would go see her. She is nice and ensures that you will have a good time. Reminds me of girls that I would normally get in real life. Very laid back, a bit quiet, and goes with the flow. She is good, I recommend.

I booked a girl from leolist and she should be arriving shortly. I had to cancel a booking from xo escorts, 4 hours notice. I feel bad but things turned out differently for me. I'm sure there are cancellations. In fact, the 2nd vogue girl I booked canceled on me today which worked out since I discovered that leolist has some pretty solid girls on there. A lot of junk but if you sift through it you can find some solid pictures. One girl has G cup tits that is coming to my hotel in an hour. I am excited about that. I'm hoping the pictures are accurate and she is a nice girl.

Overall paying for sex is a different experience. I'm use to meeting girls out on a date, chatting and vibing, and then bringing them back to my apartment to fuck them, then venmo them some money. This is my standard routine for girls that I meet on sugar daddy websites. Here it's a bit different, of course it's a direct transaction and it's timed, so psychologically that can fuck with you a bit during the session. Plus there's the question of: are the girls somewhat enjoying the session or is 90% of their focus on making money, going through it, and then heading home. It's all very psychological and it doesn't help to think so deeply on it.

I will say that I enjoy both paying directly for sex, and putting in the work to actually earn the girl. Both have their benefits and downsides. Getting exactly the girl you want is nice and can be fun. But there is a different kind of fun when you actually earn the girl and see that she wants to be horny for you and fuck you. I've had both experiences, there's definitely a marked difference. I guess it all comes down to chemistry, but again both aspects have their advantages and disadvantages.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2395992]What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.[/QUOTE]Most independents have shared trick pads for incall, and there are fewer overall transactions in that incall to spread the costs among.

Their advertising costs are significant, as they usually maintain their own websites and pay a photographer.

They usually Uber to outcalls, which is more expensive than the agency "carpool".

And most have a separate work smartphone for calls, emails, and to do basic screening and security.

Those costs are borne by the agency and spread among the agency ladies by the agency taking a "cut".

Not sure that most independents don't have a higher "overhead" fee per session than agency girls do. And it isn't an upfront fee an agency lady.

What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2395992]What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.[/QUOTE]Hum sorry but it's all about the money if offer and demand. Period. It's not all girl that want to work a lot. I know of some girl who are happy to grab 2-3 fish per month at 500 $ hour. I do have some rebate on some independent who agreed to see me at fixed lower price. But that is because I asked frankly. Some hesitate or don't answer so I take this as a no. Most agreed.

Also Twitter helps to bring more high price independent. It's free and easy marketing / networking.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2396054]What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.[/QUOTE]I am mostly a independent guy. Only went 4 times in agency in 2019 so far. And really pretty much for the same reason you wrote (but I never tried to negotiate the first meet up, I wait for a repeat).

But I would never ever suggest Leolist or AI or Hump or 123 to any outside visitors. Those ad site are filled with 95% bait. You got lucky but continue and you will see what I mean These independent web add sites are for hard core locals. And still most local I know never bother they prefer to pay a bit more the agency way.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2396250]I am mostly a independent guy. Only went 4 times in agency in 2019 so far. And really pretty much for the same reason you wrote (but I never tried to negotiate the first meet up, I wait for a repeat).

But I would never ever suggest Leolist or AI or Hump or 123 to any outside visitors. Those ad site are filled with 95% bait. You got lucky but continue and you will see what I mean These independent web add sites are for hard core locals. And still most local I know never bother they prefer to pay a bit more the agency way.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I grew up in the backpage days where you had to go through fake pictures to find 1 or 2 real girls and hope they weren't crazy enough to rob or stab you, all while you avoid getting arrested by the cops LOL. Leolist looks like what I'm use to. I agree that I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. To people that are more experienced or have mongered in the US the site will feel very familiar because this is how we are use to getting sex from hookers in a country where prostitution is illegal.

My last day in Montreal was great and I can't complain at all. I had a great 90 minute session with the same girl from last night which was plenty of fun. I fucked her tits a lot and we cuddled and chatted. It was an eye opening experience and makes me think I should try for some civilian girls again even if I can't fuck them. In reality, just sex and no connection with the girl can really suck, especially after you nut. At the same time, paying for sex is excellent when you are at a low point with women and haven't gotten laid in a really really long time. So it's like a balancing act. When I'm over sexed I tend to go for more connections, but when I'm under sexed I pay for sex and go for sex no matter what.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395174]I literally can't plan for my trip LOL. Cause I don't know what girls are really working that day. So I can't make a good choice LOL. I'm looking at broken / busted ass schedules for tomorrow and Sunday. It's all bullshit because all the fuckin girls put their schedule up last minute.

So there's not even a point to plan it. Fuck it LOL. Fuck this stupid shit LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm reading all this shit now. How many times have I told you fuckers to call a week in advance and introduce yourself to the bookers? James from euphoria literally spent 10 min talking to me and hooked me up with an appointment when I first tried to book with euphoria, and she was a tough chic to book. Amanda / Mia diverted me to Elena when she was in her second week at XO, when Meghan was totally booked. Call ahead dudes, makes a huge difference.

One thing I noticed for sure, there's a lot of locals who write favorable reviews cause they think they will get in good with a girl, others who give so, so, service a pass cause the girl is really hot, and others who just don't have the gonads to come out and say they had an average time with a popular girl (I myself am guilty of this).

So the girls you think your missing out on, might not be in reality what they are hyped up to be. One time I went to MTL, and had a TSL, didn't see one chic on that list. My plan be's and see's also bailed, but still had a blast. Remember Sam from XO pointed out a girl after none of the girls I wanted to see were available or canceled. Don't think I would booked this chic had he not mentioned her to me. Booked her for 90, she ended up staying another half hour.

Talk to the bookers, forget prebooking, forget the starlets, you may not think they are one, or might be able to book a starlet in evolution, LOL! Just go to MLT and enjoy!

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2396350]I grew up in the backpage days where you had to go through fake pictures to find 1 or 2 real girls and hope they weren't crazy enough to rob or stab you, all while you avoid getting arrested by the cops LOL. Leolist looks like what I'm use to. I agree that I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. To people that are more experienced or have mongered in the US the site will feel very familiar because this is how we are use to getting sex from hookers in a country where prostitution is illegal.

My last day in Montreal was great and I can't complain at all. I had a great 90 minute session with the same girl from last night which was plenty of fun. I fucked her tits a lot and we cuddled and chatted. It was an eye opening experience and makes me think I should try for some civilian girls again even if I can't fuck them. In reality, just sex and no connection with the girl can really suck, especially after you nut. At the same time, paying for sex is excellent when you are at a low point with women and haven't gotten laid in a really really long time. So it's like a balancing act. When I'm over sexed I tend to go for more connections, but when I'm under sexed I pay for sex and go for sex no matter what.[/QUOTE]"You had to sift through lots of fake pics to find one or two real girls who hopefully aren't crazy enough to stab you all while avoiding getting arrested. This is what we are used to mongering in the US".

LOL. I'm also from the US but never have bothered with that bullshit. Not worth it. Only place I have mongered in the US is Nevada where it is safe and legal. Sure prices are higher than in the illegal scene but you don't have to worry about being stabbed, robbed, or arrested! The girls there are even regularly tested for STIs. Nevada's legal scene is more similar to German FKKs. In NV you have a club type of environment and can choose girls from a lineup. There are pics online but they are usually pretty accurate and are rarely completely fake. Never used backpage or similar sites such as skip the games in the US so I wouldn't be used to something like leolist.

Good to hear the rest of your trip turned out well.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2395992]What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.[/QUOTE]I prefer indy and I will tell you why.

1) You can ask them blantant and explicit questions about your preferences before seeing them. This includes asking or suggesting specific clothing, lipstick, or accessories.

2) Indy on the green at least always trend older. This usually means they already have experience in the industry. Often this translates into an increased willingness to "let themselves" naturally react when intimate. This leads me to my next point.

2.1) Indy are much more inclined to DFK with passion than Agency ladies. This isn't to say agency girls do not DFK. It's just much more likely on average to get that sweet DFK from indy. This isn't a concidence. Many of the more popular ladies in the agency that have since retired gave generous DFK and sweet GFE. Many who go on to become Indy do as well.

3) Indy rates are very often all inclusive. So, while it may seem like it's way higher, if she's giving you CIM or CIMSW at 300 hour, it's not that bloated compared to say an agency at 220 h where there is usually a $40 CIM upcharge.

4) TIME. With the indy I've seen at least, I've always got the full time. Never a minute less. And often a few minutes more. All have asked if I wanted to take a shower once my time was up. Never before. At the agency they simply cannot be as generous with time because they have back to back bookings. Maybe if you're the last of the day that's different.

I don't like paying more. All girls are totally about the money until the day they aren't doing this anymore. Never think otherwise. They make as much as they can while they can, although some aren't as profit mongering as others.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2396401]I'm reading all this shit now. How many times have I told you fuckers to call a week in advance and introduce yourself to the bookers? James from euphoria literally spent 10 min talking to me and hooked me up with an appointment when I first tried to book with euphoria, and she was a tough chic to book. Amanda / Mia diverted me to Elena when she was in her second week at XO, when Meghan was totally booked. Call ahead dudes, makes a huge difference.

One thing I noticed for sure, there's a lot of locals who write favorable reviews cause they think they will get in good with a girl, others who give so, so, service a pass cause the girl is really hot, and others who just don't have the gonads to come out and say they had an average time with a popular girl (I myself am guilty of this).

So the girls you think your missing out on, might not be in reality what they are hyped up to be. One time I went to MTL, and had a TSL, didn't see one chic on that list. My plan be's and see's also bailed, but still had a blast. Remember Sam from XO pointed out a girl after none of the girls I wanted to see were available or canceled. Don't think I would booked this chic had he not mentioned her to me. Booked her for 90, she ended up staying another half hour.

Talk to the bookers, forget prebooking, forget the starlets, you may not think they are one, or might be able to book a starlet in evolution, LOL! Just go to MLT and enjoy![/QUOTE]Right on target.

I guess many visitors are a bit shy and nervous of what they are doing. So they prefer least communication with the booker and expect the best. Well it's a recipe for missing out.

This is Montreal folks. Let it go don't be shy. Talks to bookers. Also if one booker gives you special attention let him know you will only use his agency for your trip if he helps you out. Booker need to know your plan to help you out. For example if you want 2 h or even 3 h session my god let them know!! They will prioritize you big time as it's easier for everyone to book a girl multiple hours.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2395857]
Now for the review: I saw Tara from XXXtase and she was not that great. I just want to say that I went into this very objectively and have communicated with the agencies and girl thus far in a very down to earth and casual way. I do have some courtesy and for the most part am not a loud idiot. That being said, I personally did not enjoy my session with Tara to the best extent. Yes she has huge titties which is why I was excited to book her. They are very big, one tit is almost as big as the size of your head if you are into that. They are fake tits. It was all great and I got to titty fuck her for sometime, but in general she didn't have a solid attitude towards the session. She didn't allow any kissing and no BBBJ. I was surprised, thought BBBJ was the standard? She also didn't take her pants off during the session. I was mainly there to titty fuck her huge tits which is what I wanted and got to do. But there was not even an offer or gesture towards sex. In fact, she was actually encouraging me to cum after 10 minutes in the session.

Tara from XXXtase in a terrible provider. I highly recommend to avoid her if you want to save your money. I really feel that I should put this up there and make this public. Some guys would really benefit to know this information. Let me be the Guinea pig, let me take one for the team and waste my money for you, and give you the information so you don't have to find out yourself. She is awful. Yes her tits are huge, but really you won't be able to enjoy them as much as you would like. You can tell she has restrictions. It was so awkward because I wanted to do more, I wanted to really enjoy her tits, but I knew she wouldn't let me. And when I did try to enjoy them, she backed off towards the end. She does not want to please you, she does not care about that or you, she just wants to deliver sub par experience, and leave. She complained a lot about me rubbing her tits. She complains to me and says she hates it when people touch her tits![/QUOTE]What has gone wrong with this agency? Xxxtase. Back in the day when Martin was working there. Was a great agency. Martin left the day-to-day to run his restaurant and the agency went to hell and never recovered. My worst service from an agency girl was a Delights girl and Delights was just another name for Xxxtase. I'm telling you that my 2nd Montreal agency girl ever was an Xxxtase girl and I had had a few after that and they were always top notch.

Has anyone had any luck with this agency lately?

Thanks for the review TerOnlyOnce. The bad ones like this one are the ones that help the most. Avoid Tara. Got it.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2396676]What has gone wrong with this agency? Xxxtase. Back in the day when Martin was working there. Was a great agency. Martin left the day-to-day to run his restaurant and the agency went to hell and never recovered.

Has anyone had any luck with this agency lately?[/QUOTE]Had a great time with this chic.

[URL]https://montrealxxxtase.com/escort/jessica/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Frank11;2395992]What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.[/QUOTE]I for one always use independents.

First it is always about the money agency or independent don't kid yourself that it is not.

Independents have a higher overhead, their own web sight, incall location are shared with few others or maybe entirely their own, they do their own booking etc. There is a long list of reasons why they are more expensive most of which are justifiable.

I prefer the individual dialogue, with the Indys, I don't like talking to bookers.

With repeats you get to know them quite well, most will go out of their way to please you.

Repeat business is their bread and butter they know the value of a regular client.

They tend to be way more mature and experienced, then if you are really lucky you may end up with a couple that are not only amazing to be with but you end up being friends and actually really get to like each other and appreciate each other's company not just the sex.

This is very rare but it does happen.

I have never had a bad session so far, but I have only used well reviewed indys that advertise on the local green board.

Yes they are maybe more pricey, but not always, as there is usually none of the nonsense that there is an extra for this an extra for that, and once they are comfortable with you, you would be amazed just what really is available without even asking.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2396054]What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.[/QUOTE]Would you care to share her profile so I can get what you're talking about! We seem to have the same tastes LOL and I can completely relate to your story with Tara.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2396054]What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.[/QUOTE]If you are not a local forget leolist, Humpchies, an123 these sites are 90%. Bait and switch and if you are not familiar with the neighberhoods it can even get dangerous and scary.

Stick to the 5 or 6 agencies advertised on the green board, or the Indys advertising there.

Two other good sites for MTL Indys are Indy companions. Com and Tryst Link there should be ample supply of Indys to suit any bodies needs and with them you can easily set up sessions even weeks in advance.

I am a local Montrealer not very active here, sometimes post on the Budapest / Hungary thread, but post more on the local Montreal green board.

It was my birthday and decided I was deserving of a 2 day long present. But who, so many choices!

April was always at the top of my list, busty, fit, blonde, pretty, long legs. There are no trade-offs with this one you get it all.

As we emailed I fell in love with her attitude. She's a modern-day geisha. All about the art of pleasure and not jaded at all, she is positive and happy and a great communicator. She is serious about being professional, getting back to you right away, taking the time to answer questions, being very accurate and polite. Not many like this, especially when they are doing their own booking.

We booked a two days marathon and I can't give a full blow-by-blow because some of it is a blur, but this girl is amazing. I am naturally dominant and she picked up on that and played a submissive role with me. She doesn't know the word "no"- almost any request irrespective of reasonableness was answered with "I would love to". She came with a bag full of goodies, toys and whips and candles and outfits and we tried it all. A few firsts for me which doesn't happen much- but she loves this stuff and the fact she likes to do it is clear and makes a big difference.

My dick must have been in her mouth non-stop for the first 2-3 hours- this girl does not give up she wants what she wants and works hard to get nut after nut. She might have been made more of my DNA then hers by the end of the weekend! She loves to make great eye contact, is an energizer bunny and vocal. At such a age to have mad skills- she was telling me some clients like S&M so she invested in an advanced course with a Mistress and paid a few thousand because she wants to do things right.

She is full of ideas- shall we go to a strip club? How about a threesome? Lets use the freestanding tub, how about we have sex in front of the windows of the suite with the curtains opened, want to DP me with toys. She is full of naughty ideas and loves to try things. She is full PSE but at the same time full of class and smart and friendly and engaging. We were at a 5-star hotel and she blended right in at the restaurant or lobby. You can also tell what a person is like in how they treat others- she was always so polite to the waitstaff and always grateful for everything. She kept telling me she was happy I picked her and having a great time and asking me if I was happy. Its like opposite world where a hot girl is acting as if she's the lucky one to be with me! Trust me luck was on my side.

April is a good conversationalist for someone so she is worldly and traveled and knows her food. I hope she can keep being kind and optimistic and enjoying herself as that makes her the perfect extended-date. No matter how great the sex if you are spending 2 days together the mood and the experience is ready made between sessions and she is able to build a connection, and can make you the center of attention. She is always thinking of how to make you happy- constantly checking she looks great and is making sure you are content. Also she isn't bothered about the money, she never asked about it the first day and I had to remind her about it- and she didn't bother counting it and is a trusting soul who deserves only the best customers who are worthy of this trust.

[QUOTE=LATraveller;2397620]April was always at the top of my list, busty, fit, blonde, pretty, long legs. There are no trade-offs with this one you get it all.[/QUOTE]Yes, April is a legitimate blonde bombshell. She is stunning head to toe. She could have been a Playboy or Penthouse centerfold when that was a big deal.

I was disappointed just a bit because she gave me very LFK with the lip lock some girls give you. Hopefully with a long, multi-day booking April was more into kissing with you.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2398458]Yes, April is a legitimate blonde bombshell. She is stunning head to toe. She could have been a Playboy or Penthouse centerfold when that was a big deal.

I was disappointed just a bit because she gave me very LFK with the lip lock some girls give you. Hopefully with a long, multi-day booking April was more into kissing with you.[/QUOTE]From What I've experienced and have read. Kissing for April is definitely YMMV. I saw her when she started at Vog and it was non stop sloppy wet kisses. The last guy to review her on the green board got the same. As a matter of fact he wrote that it was the best sexual experience of his life. I know him well and he has seen some of the best in the last 10 years. So that's quite a compliment.

Any of the other MTL in all agencies offering it, or is it just XO?

Had a dream I visited Montreal, got in late and was sore so I first went and got a massage with Jasmine [URL]https://www.extrememassage.ca/en/portfolio-items/jasmine/[/URL] who was slim and tan, not the best personality but gave a nice he on the flip. Second encounter was with Alissa from XO [URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/alissa/[/URL] who was very friendly but LK only. A bit of a butterface, has a few tattoos, but enjoyed OWO, DATY, a few positions and CIM finish.

Then had an encounter with Madison from Euphoria [URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/madison[/URL] who has quite a few tattoos and some lip fillers. She's also got braces if you're into that sort of thing too but otherwise has a wonderful body which was a pleasure to explore.

After that it was the Moroccan beauty Nala from XO [URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/nala/[/URL] who has a beautiful face and thin body. DFK, OWO, and several positions later I was very satisfied.

Lastly was a visit with Taylor from Euphoria [URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/taylor[/URL] who has tattoos and beautiful eyes. Her body is better in person than in the pictures and an hour with her was bliss.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2398611]Any of the other MTL in all agencies offering it, or is it just XO?[/QUOTE]As far as I know XO doesn't advertise half hour sessions though.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2398891]As far as I know XO doesn't advertise half hour sessions though.[/QUOTE]They just started, it's under some girls in rate. That why I asked if Euphoria is doing this but not advertising?

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2398926]They just started, it's under some girls in rate. That why I asked if Euphoria is doing this but not advertising?[/QUOTE]Interesting!

Thanks for the reviews. You have made very good, honest contributions to the threads of three of my favorite places, Lisbon, Barcelona and Montreal.

Taylor of Euphoria has somewhat mixed reviews on the local board. She is consistently reviewed as doing BBBJ, with a $20 upsell for CIM, does GFE including fingering, and a lot of guys love her "Kate Upton like" looks and body. But other guys have complained that she is mechanical and sometimes leaves after the guy's first cum even when there is time left in the hour. Hopefully that has been fixed. Can you elaborate a bit more on her and the subjectiveness of your experience with her?

[QUOTE=OddsMaker;2398804]Had a dream I visited Montreal, got in late and was sore so I first went and got a massage with Jasmine [URL]https://www.extrememassage.ca/en/portfolio-items/jasmine/[/URL] who was slim and tan, not the best personality but gave a nice he on the flip. Second encounter was with Alissa from XO [URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/alissa/[/URL] who was very friendly but LK only. A bit of a butterface, has a few tattoos, but enjoyed OWO, DATY, a few positions and CIM finish.

Then had an encounter with Madison from Euphoria [URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/madison[/URL] who has quite a few tattoos and some lip fillers. She's also got braces if you're into that sort of thing too but otherwise has a wonderful body which was a pleasure to explore.

After that it was the Moroccan beauty Nala from XO [URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/nala/[/URL] who has a beautiful face and thin body. DFK, OWO, and several positions later I was very satisfied.

Lastly was a visit with Taylor from Euphoria [URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/taylor[/URL] who has tattoos and beautiful eyes. Her body is better in person than in the pictures and an hour with her was bliss.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LATraveller;2397620]It was my birthday and decided I was deserving of a 2 day long present. But who, so many choices!

April was always at the top of my list, busty, fit, blonde, pretty, long legs. There are no trade-offs with this one you get it all.

As we emailed I fell in love with her attitude. She's a modern-day geisha. All about the art of pleasure and not jaded at all, she is positive and happy and a great communicator. She is serious about being professional, getting back to you right away, taking the time to answer questions, being very accurate and polite. Not many like this, especially when they are doing their own booking.[/QUOTE]How can I book April? What website?

Incall with BBBJ, DATY, and 2 pops with multiple positions. Didn't ask and wasn't offered CIM / FIV. She didn't seem mechanical and was very friendly, definitely has that Kate Upton fullness.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2399214]Thanks for the reviews. You have made very good, honest contributions to the threads of three of my favorite places, Lisbon, Barcelona and Montreal.

Taylor of Euphoria has somewhat mixed reviews on the local board. She is consistently reviewed as doing BBBJ, with a $20 upsell for CIM, does GFE including fingering, and a lot of guys love her "Kate Upton like" looks and body. But other guys have complained that she is mechanical and sometimes leaves after the guy's first cum even when there is time left in the hour. Hopefully that has been fixed. Can you elaborate a bit more on her and the subjectiveness of your experience with her?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LATraveller;2397620]It was my birthday and decided I was deserving of a 2 day long present. But who, so many choices!

April was always at the top of my list, busty............[/QUOTE]Are they bolt-ons?

[QUOTE=Bsizzle123;2399220]How can I book April? What website?[/QUOTE]She has a web site with Indy Companions and on twitter under at Aprilmcadams.

BTW her breasts are stunning and I couldn't tell if they were real or man made's. Couldn't care either way.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2399214]Thanks for the reviews. You have made very good, honest contributions to the threads of three of my favorite places, Lisbon, Barcelona and Montreal.

Taylor of Euphoria has somewhat mixed reviews on the local board. She is consistently reviewed as doing BBBJ, with a $20 upsell for CIM, does GFE including fingering, and a lot of guys love her "Kate Upton like" looks and body. But other guys have complained that she is mechanical and sometimes leaves after the guy's first cum even when there is time left in the hour. Hopefully that has been fixed. Can you elaborate a bit more on her and the subjectiveness of your experience with her?[/QUOTE]While I don't have the cred here as others, I thought I'd add my Taylor review from my visit a couple of weeks ago. Booked her for 2 hours, as the last session of the night. I like to do 2 hours, so as not to feel rushed. Picked her up in the lobby, and after a drink proceeded to an excellent BBBJ Oral session, with CIM but for me was +40. I generally don't negotiate, especially in the middle of the action. The challenges began after this, as I was ready for round 2, but she demonstrated a distinct lack of enthusiasm. She wasn't willing to put in the work to make sure I was satisfied, and finally I just finished myself. I asked and she simply said she's been working a lot.

So my review here is mixed, but I would not repeat.

[QUOTE=Dripster12;2399815]While I don't have the cred here as others, I thought I'd add my Taylor review from my visit a couple of weeks ago. Booked her for 2 hours, as the last session of the night. I like to do 2 hours, so as not to feel rushed. Picked her up in the lobby, and after a drink proceeded to an excellent BBBJ Oral session, with CIM but for me was +40. I generally don't negotiate, especially in the middle of the action. The challenges began after this, as I was ready for round 2, but she demonstrated a distinct lack of enthusiasm. She wasn't willing to put in the work to make sure I was satisfied, and finally I just finished myself. I asked and she simply said she's been working a lot.

So my review here is mixed, but I would not repeat.[/QUOTE]That's why I hate batting last. Some of these providers are working 10 hours and seeing 4-5'clients maybe more. If you get shitty service some boys will be saying "hey man, cut her some slack" but then it's like why work that long if you can't provide a consistent service? I think it's a fair question. That's why now I look to see the duration of shift and if it's something ridiculous, I'll take a pass.

[QUOTE=Dripster12;2399815]While I don't have the cred here as others, I thought I'd add my Taylor review from my visit a couple of weeks ago. Booked her for 2 hours, as the last session of the night. I like to do 2 hours, so as not to feel rushed. Picked her up in the lobby, and after a drink proceeded to an excellent BBBJ Oral session, with CIM but for me was +40. I generally don't negotiate, especially in the middle of the action. The challenges began after this, as I was ready for round 2, but she demonstrated a distinct lack of enthusiasm. She wasn't willing to put in the work to make sure I was satisfied, and finally I just finished myself. I asked and she simply said she's been working a lot.

So my review here is mixed, but I would not repeat.[/QUOTE]That is sad to read. For those who are kind of newbie in Montreal let's say no round 2 in a 1 hour session is somewhat acceptable. It's really depending on the time you took for round 1.

But for a 2 hour session is completely unacceptable. I have done very few 2 h sessions but from all I have done round 2 was always on the table (actually I never was asked extra for CIM in a 2 h session).

Cheers.

Just wondering if any of you guys have had decent experiences with seeking? If so, how often would you say you connect with a girl? How do you deal for fees? Are there always fees?

[QUOTE=TapTap;2400918]Just wondering if any of you guys have had decent experiences with seeking? If so, how often would you say you connect with a girl? How do you deal for fees? Are there always fees?[/QUOTE]I tried it for a short time. With mix results. Basically:

- I found girl living in the city (Montreal for my case) demand as much and often higher then SP.

- Avoid the monthly allowance trap. After 2 months the girl will be sick often, have her period every week or have her grand mother die 3 times. Once you've paid reason for cancelling are too easy.

- Do not discuss too openly on SA (I was banned for solicitation.), try to get her email as soon as message exchange gets underway.

- I had 2 rules. No monthly allowance and no paid social time.

After many many exchanged I ended up seeing one regularly for many weeks. She was 22 and had a boyfriend. She was the kind of girl not every guy would like. GND type. I found her cute. A bit on the chubby side, like 10 lbs. That's nothing for me I was really aroused. Basically she was stuck with a BF that did not like sex. When she saw I took 30 minutes to undress, kiss, massage and DATY her before moving on she said 'fuck with my BF is done after 10 minute max. ". We did a few light kinky stuff like handcuff, blindfold, etc etc. She was always smiling. She finished me every time with a swallow because her BF found that disgusting haha But then she left her BF, found a new younger guy and left me off Anyhow that one made it worthwhile to try SA.

Cheers,

For the many guys who want to see face shots of an escort prior to seeing her, Faye of Euphoria has a twitter feed showing more than her Euphoria profile reveals. She has received a favorable review on the local board. She often posts her advance schedule on her twitter page.

[URL]https://twitter.com/fayefleure[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/faye[/URL]

True story, I swear to the leprechaun in my garden. This one time my friend overpaid his girl 580 instead of 300. My friend isn't an idiot he just had that once-in-a-lifetime accident where he overpaid the girl. The girl gave him his money back after telling him he overpaid. So the guy was so impressed with her honesty that he called her again Every weekend for the next 3 month. And he said to her Afterwards I Only called you, instead of someone else, Again and again because I was impressed by your honesty, because I believe hard-working honest people should win and should be rewarded. So there is another true story where honesty was actually more important than money. Doesn't work all the time but it did work in this true story. Other times money actually is more important, Obviously.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2401085]For the many guys who want to see face shots of an escort prior to seeing her, Faye of Euphoria has a twitter feed showing more than her Euphoria profile reveals. She has received a favorable review on the local board. She often posts her advance schedule on her twitter page.

[URL]https://twitter.com/fayefleure[/URL]

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/faye[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks Mongerer, I posted something similar on her review thread and one of the mods on the local board deleted it without an explanation.

I've only seen Faye once but was very impressed. Exotic beauty, brains, quirkiness, naughtiness and an amazing blow job with tons of kissing. Yes Chubzy she has a massage background. James tells me she is very popular so I'm surprised that she doesn't have any more reviews.

The very highly thought of, extreme busty, Daryn (who went by Logan at Velvet Love) has moved to Vog. She is mentioned often in this ISG thread and I have seen her twice and liked her a lot.

They don't have pictures up, and they haven't given her an accurate website link when it comes to her name in the link, but hopefully that will be fixed soon.

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escorts/veronika/[/URL]

During a short, quick trip to Montreal in November, I met Rosa (outcall at the Omni) when she was still working with Godiva. I was going to review her earlier, but then Godiva suddenly shut down. Rosa worked briefly as "Thayla" at Wildtimes and now she is on the XO roster.

I enjoyed my short, one-hour session with Rosa. I picked her based on her availability, her reported Thai heritage, her photos and description and a few decent reviews that she had.

When I first met her, I was a little puzzled that no one on the Green board had reported that she is mixed race. The reviews of her when she was at Godiva just described her as Thai. But based on her facial features and dark skin, it was obvious to me that she had some DNA that stretched back to Africa. Now the XO site describes her as "Asian / Latina. " I think that's accurate if you interpret "Latina" as Dominican (there are lots of Dominicans with African DNA).

Anyway, if you like mixed race girls, you might like Rosa. Rosa has an average face but her best feature is her young, slender, athletic body. She has just enough boobs and ass to not look skinny.

Since my appointment was only for one hour, I didn't waste time with chit-chat over wine. We took our clothes off and moved to the bed.

I asked Rosa to start me off with a nice, slow, sensual hand job. This was my second appointment of the day (which is very unusual for me), so I was a little tired and I wanted to just lie back and enjoy having Rosa take care of me.

But she got me excited enough that I decided to proceed to fucking. I put the condom on and entered her in doggy. Given her youthfulness and slender frame, I found the fit to be very tight and very pleasing. It got even better when I asked her to lower herself on her belly with her legs together, I. E. Prone doggy. I was surprised when it didn't take long for me to cum in that position.

I enjoyed my short session with Rosa. She is personable, easy-going and willing to please. If you like her type, then I recommend her.

[QUOTE=TapTap;2400918]Just wondering if any of you guys have had decent experiences with seeking?[/QUOTE]Though there are lots of great looking girls from Montreal listed on Seeking, I (as a visitor) would probably not try to use it there. Though I might consider using it if I lived in Montreal.

I have used it in the USA And yes, it can work and it can be worthwhile. But it takes a lot of research, time and some up front expenditure (the monthly fee).

I wouldn't bother with it when visiting Montreal, because it is so easy, safe and relatively inexpensive to find great escorts there. No need to use Seeking. But because of the many problems (law enforcement, screening, high costs, etc) involved in trying to identify and arrange meetings with escorts in the U.S., Seeking is an option worth considering.

[QUOTE=CaptRenno;2402079]Though there are lots of great looking girls from Montreal listed on Seeking, I (as a visitor) would probably not try to use it there. Though I might consider using it if I lived in Montreal.

I have used it in the USA And yes, it can work and it can be worthwhile. But it takes a lot of research, time and some up front expenditure (the monthly fee).

I wouldn't bother with it when visiting Montreal, because it is so easy, safe and relatively inexpensive to find great escorts there. No need to use Seeking. But because of the many problems (law enforcement, screening, high costs, etc) involved in trying to identify and arrange meetings with escorts in the U.S., Seeking is an option worth considering.[/QUOTE]Exactly unless you are coming here in Montreal for about a month or so do not bother with SA here as Capt is saying.

If you think SP are unreliable wait until you discover the world of SA! Until you find the correct one quite a few will have cancel on you with or without notice.

Was in Montreal in late November and saw three girls from three different agencies:

1. Nala (XO): had booked a different girl prior to arriving in MTL but was told by the booker a few hours in advance of appointment that there had been a scheduling change. Was offered to pick a different girl from the roster and went with Nala. Location was incall in Sud Ouest, easily accessible by train from where I was staying in Centre Ville. I ended up getting there way too early because I'm from out of town and not familiar with MTL's trains, wandered around the neighborhood for a while which was actually quite nice. It ended up being worth the wait, Nala is a beautiful, petite Moroccan girl with tanned skin and dyed blonde hair. She is very Middle Eastern looking (which I am into) and has a great natural top. Standard, but thoroughly enjoyable, GFE with BBJ and DATY followed by missionary. She is not a clock watcher and I probably could have gone for MSOG, but decided against it as I was too tired from traveling. She said that her nipples are sensitive and she doesn't like pinching or too much contact. Her English is good, we had an interesting conversation about living in Morocco vs. Canada vs. NY, she is a university student and mentioned that she had finals coming up.

2. Kloe (Vog): booked the morning of for an afternoon outcall session. Kloe is a relatively tall (like 5'7/170) and athletically built French girl with blonde hair and piercing blue eyes. She mentioned that she was recovering from a sports injury but this didn't really impact the session. Top is enhanced but looks / feels pretty close to natural. Was standard GFE with BBJ / DATY followed by missionary, this time asked for MSOG which she gladly obliged. Mentioned beforehand that her clit is sensitive, so to go easy on it. Read reviews of her on merb that mentioned that she does S&M stuff, I did not ask for this but she did mention it in passing. No communication difficulties as she speaks good English, she mentioned that she travels to NY a lot and lived there at one point. We had a funny conversation about NY police, the general rudeness of New Yorkers versus Montreal residents, and the differences in the escort scene in NY versus MTL due to different laws regarding SW. She asked if I had read about her on merb ("they talk about me on there a lot" I mentioned the now-defunct are / hookers subreddit, which she wasn't familiar with.

3. Lexis (Euphoria): booked the morning of for an evening outcall session. Location was in Griffintown, walkable from downtown but kind of inconvenient to get to. Lexis is a pretty French girl with dark hair and blue eyes, very nice natural top. Again English was good so no difficulties in communication. Experience was pretty straightforward, BBJ / DATY followed by doggy / missionary and then a back massage at the end which was nice. Was tired and didn't go for MSOG. Had a funny conversation afterward about her day job which is in something unexpected.

Would recommend any of the three girls although Nala was my favorite, she is on Twitter (at NalaBaez) if you want to see more of her (this is on XO's site, otherwise I would not post it).

[quote=jalimon2;2401002] have her period every week or have her grand mother die 3 times.

Cheers,[/quote]ahahahhhahaaa.

Hey guys,

Just wanted to share an experience from the Berlin thread with the Montreal crowd. Just so you know, the girl earned a lot. €650 is 948 Canadian currency. I just wanted to explain what I meant when I said it pays more to be creative than greedy. Plus, I think I gave the girl a lot of tips. Only because I think people would do a good job should get rewarded, just think about the girls in the reports that walked in the room take the money and then leave. Some of the girls who steal money like that are absolutely beautiful 8, 9's or tens. They could at least try to make an effort and work hard like everyone else does.

Yeah anyhow, I like it when the girls make a lot of money. The more money I can give her the happier I am. Both sides can win this game. If she wants him to give her 650 she can have it. She can come over at the beginning of the evening and start by relaxing and having some fun conversation. At the same time she can sit really close to him to make it enjoyable. Watch the time go by. Listen to some music, watch some music videos, and watch a scene or a little part from a good movie. Tell each other a story or joke. Then head to the bedroom and keep having fun. Afterwards maybe lay back while drinking a beer or fruit juice, whatever. Don't forget about sometime cuddling and feeling body warmth. Forget about the time and then finally notice you stayed over an extra hour. So basically, that was 3, 4, or 5 hours and she didn't even care because she was having fun and it was easy and relaxed even though everyone's job including hers is demanding. Okay cool so how much did she make 300 or 350. Since what she really wants is 650 then she can come back next Saturday do same thing again. See no problem instead of being greedy she was focused on being the best person she can be and making the people that appreciate her happy. And she has her 650. The other girl wanted 650 for 2 hours. But, which girl do you really think is going to get the 650 and which girl deserves it more? Obviously is a case-by-case thing is different with different customers.

It is normal for people to get nervous talking about money. This is so much that in the green form anyone posting about money apparently will have their messages deleted. All I'm saying is take Amazon. It's usually the product with the lowest price that makes the most sales. Anyone who offers top-notch service at an affordable price usually gets to keep all the profit. A lot of people in business are familiar with that cut out the middleman to lower your production cost and increase net profit. That is only one creative solution. Come up with other creative solutions on your own.

[QUOTE=Dripster12;2399815]While I don't have the cred here as others, I thought I'd add my Taylor review from my visit a couple of weeks ago. Booked her for 2 hours, as the last session of the night. I like to do 2 hours, so as not to feel rushed. Picked her up in the lobby, and after a drink proceeded to an excellent BBBJ Oral session, with CIM but for me was +40. I generally don't negotiate, especially in the middle of the action. The challenges began after this, as I was ready for round 2, but she demonstrated a distinct lack of enthusiasm. She wasn't willing to put in the work to make sure I was satisfied, and finally I just finished myself. I asked and she simply said she's been working a lot.

So my review here is mixed, but I would not repeat.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Great review Dripster. I get a little mechanical myself during the 2nd hour of a late night date.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2405550]Hey guys,

Just wanted to share an experience from the Berlin thread with the Montreal crowd. Just so you know, the girl earned a lot. 650 is 948 Canadian currency. I just wanted to explain what I meant when I said it pays more to be creative than greedy. Plus, I think I gave the girl a lot of tips. Only because I think people would do a good job should get rewarded, just think about the girls in the reports that walked in the room take the money and then leave. Some of the girls who steal money like that are absolutely beautiful 8, 9's or tens. They could at least try to make an effort and work hard like everyone else does.
.[/QUOTE]There was a Lebanese girl Nadia Jolie. She was a grad student and she was a dime! *She cost about 100-150 $ more than the typical agency girl. I met her at a party and so I thought I would try her. She came in from school dressed exactly like I asked her to dress and I found out later that the lingerie was exactly what I asked for and the same as in her pictures. She sat down with me and talked geopolitics, family, being Arabic and growing up in Lebanon and how Arabic families and Christians intermingled in the Paris of the Middle East etc. I thought she was trying to talk her way through our visit. The time started after she got undressed. She did a great Russian with baby oil on her tits. Yes, I agree. She was worth the extra $$$ I paid with her get-to-know-you preamble followed by non-rushed full service and arrived dressed like she was actually going on a date!

She disappeared and so did all her reviews. During our interesting conversation, she said that due to family pressure she would eventually leave the business and marry and start a family and her electronic trail would disappear and it did.

Somewhere there is a baby nursing on the beautiful tits that were once covered in baby oil and Hungry's white creamy spluge!

*Note. I think she was running a special.

Hello all,

I'm planning (more like thinking about it) a short trip (a weekend) across the border sometime next month. Does anyone have experience crossing the border alone in the winter for only a two days trip? It would be driving from Boston on Saturday and returning on Sunday. Would the short turnaround raise a red flag? Too bad there isn't a major enough event going on in the city.

I could spend the money and time on local escorts but the quality isn't even close. I was going to make a trip North last year, but it didn't end up happening.

[QUOTE=WindBlow;2406763]Hello all,

I'm planning (more like thinking about it) a short trip (a weekend) across the border sometime next month. Does anyone have experience crossing the border alone in the winter for only a two days trip? It would be driving from Boston on Saturday and returning on Sunday. Would the short turnaround raise a red flag? Too bad there isn't a major enough event going on in the city.

I could spend the money and time on local escorts but the quality isn't even close. I was going to make a trip North last year, but it didn't end up happening.[/QUOTE]It is really not a problem. Tell them the obvious if asked. You had to work on Friday and you have to be back to work on Monday, and you want to see Montreal over the weekend when you are off of work. The reason for the advice on this thread is just to tell people to scrub their phones. They love to take a quick scroll though phones and you don't want an ongoing text chat with three escort bookings, and the local escort review board being the first hit if they type M into your internet browser. Have a list of things you want to do, like shopping on St. Catherine Street to get the 25 percent currency discount on clothes, and the name of some restaurants you would like to try.

[QUOTE=WindBlow;2406763]Hello all,

I'm planning (more like thinking about it) a short trip (a weekend) across the border sometime next month. Does anyone have experience crossing the border alone in the winter for only a two days trip? It would be driving from Boston on Saturday and returning on Sunday. Would the short turnaround raise a red flag? Too bad there isn't a major enough event going on in the city.

I could spend the money and time on local escorts but the quality isn't even close. I was going to make a trip North last year, but it didn't end up happening.[/QUOTE]I did this two years ago in early January. Went up on a Saturday and returned on Sunday. The weather was unusually warm and the hotel rates were really low. There was a popular girl I wanted to see that was available on Saturday. So I went for it. There was very little traffic and no other cars at the border.

Sure enough I got pulled over for secondary inspection. They went through everything in my car, luggage and phone. They asked me four times if I was seeing anyone in Montreal. I kept repeating no and reiterated the tourist things I was going to do (which I did intend to do). After 30 minutes of inspecting my car and asking questions they let me go. I do believe that I raised red flags for only going for 1 day, being a solo male traveler, and traveling as a tourist in winter. I had never been pulled over before or since. But I never went for 1 day in the winter before. So it does happen. Be prepared and follow Mongerer88's advice and you should be okay.

Hotel price is a part of why I'm interested in heading north this time of the year. Still thinking if I should make the trip or not, not sure if I can justify a two day trip with all the driving and potentially getting stuck at the border, although the reward is quite tempting.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2406930]I did this two years ago in early January. Went up on a Saturday and returned on Sunday. The weather was unusually warm and the hotel rates were really low. There was a popular girl I wanted to see that was available on Saturday. So I went for it. There was very little traffic and no other cars at the border.

Sure enough I got pulled over for secondary inspection. They went through everything in my car, luggage and phone. They asked me four times if I was seeing anyone in Montreal. I kept repeating no and reiterated the tourist things I was going to do (which I did intend to do). After 30 minutes of inspecting my car and asking questions they let me go. I do believe that I raised red flags for only going for 1 day, being a solo male traveler, and traveling as a tourist in winter. I had never been pulled over before or since. But I never went for 1 day in the winter before. So it does happen. Be prepared and follow Mongerer88's advice and you should be okay.[/QUOTE]

I'm about ready to get a Nexus card but I'm a little worried about the interview to tell you the truth. I would like some opinions on how to go about this. What is it about going from the USA to Canada and back? I go to Brazil, Europe, and cross the border into Tijuana and nothing! Canada is always 20 questions.

Many times I am going on business but I have still been flagged and had to provide names and addresses of who I was going to see and where I was going to stay. The head Unicorn told me to tell them that I'm going to hit the Casino and do some clubbing and go out to dinner. I still got pulled out of line for this and once they took my laptop in a back room only to hand it back to me 10 minutes later and no, I didn't scrub it.

You may get challenged both ways so be prepared with where you are staying and use the casino and shopping and clubbing excuse. Is there a hockey game? Tell them you are going to go see the Canadians. Is it legal to buy tickets off the street? I've always wanted to see a game in Montreal. Scalping a single ticket at game time is a good way to get a good seat and see a game cheaply. Look up some events that are happening. Is there a winter carnival? Give them a minimum of details, answer with the lest amount of verbiage possible, and stick to your story. They may hassle you but they will let you go.

One time I was in Connecticut at a conference and I got board and left early and drove 6 hours up to Montreal just for the night. On the way back the crossing guard asked what I did. I said went out to dinner and spent the night. He raised his voice and said in an accusatory tone "YOU DROVE ALL THE WAY FROM CONNECTICUT TO HAVE DINNER?" I said yes and he told me OK, pop the trunk and as I was doing it I said "and hit some clubs" and this seemed logical to him and he said "Ok you were going to clubs. oh OK." like this makes sense. He went through my golf bag very quickly and then sent me on my way.

I have been buying a sim card once I cross the boarder. It is a small investment of about 30 $ and I use this to book girls. My business sim card is in my phone for the border crossings. I don't know if this makes a difference but I do it. I haven't bothered to take yahoo mail down but I have my civilian yahoo account up and running and they would have to do some looking to get to my hobby e-mail. I guess I'll delete cookies and memory and then hit a few sports sites before going next time but I haven't bothered to do this.

I am interested in hearing about Nexus interviews. I want to get one. I'm sick of the harassment at USA-Canada border crossings. I don't understand why this is such a hassle.

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some info / advice. I'm a 33 year old male living in Montreal. I am currently going through a really rough time in my life and think an experience with an escort could be really beneficial for me mentally. This would be a first time for me and I am a bit nervous. I was hoping you guys can help me with on how all of this works:

-Is it safe to use my real phone number to contact these agencies?

-Where do the "meetings" take place? At my place, or their place?

-I'm guessing you pay with cash?

-How much in advance do I need to book these meetings?

-Are the prices I see online fixed or are there hidden fees I should know about?

-What are the meetings like? What should I expect?

-I am a pretty shy guy in general, will that be an issue if I'm not the one initiating?

-Lastly, any recommendations on which agency / girl to see based on my profile?

Sorry for all the questions. I appreciate all the help you guys can offer!

[QUOTE=Micsmy31;2407615]Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some info / advice. I'm a 33 year old male living in Montreal.:[/QUOTE]You sound perfect for this. There are all kinds of guys that see escorts from womanizers with both a wife and a girlfriend that still need a little strange to absolute losers with women that cannot get laid at an orgy.

[QUOTE=Micsmy31;2407615]
-Is it safe to use my real phone number to contact these agencies?[/QUOTE]It depends. Is it your private number and only you see the bills? I would be careful with a company phone or if you and your wife are on a friends and family plan but if I'm paying, I would feel comfortable using my own phone. If you are in doubt it is so easy to buy a sim card for less then 30 $/ month and swap it in and out when you hobby. I got one from Rogers and I even got a little data with it.

[QUOTE=Micsmy31;2407615]
-Where do the "meetings" take place? At my place, or their place?[/QUOTE]You can do either outcall at your place or incall at her place or the agencies place. Maybe it would be good to look fro incall so that your neighbors aren't seeing a parade of young hot women knocking at your door. However, a lot of guys have the girls come to their residence or rent a room.

[QUOTE=Micsmy31;2407615]
-I'm guessing you pay with cash?[/QUOTE]Yes.

[QUOTE=Micsmy31;2407615]
-How much in advance do I need to book these meetings?[/QUOTE]I've booked and had the session in as little as 30 minute prior to the date. Most of the time you book in the morning when the schedules come out and they get updated throughout the day. I think XO puts a schedule out as early as a Sunday.

[QUOTE=Micsmy31;2407615]
-Are the prices I see online fixed or are there hidden fees I should know about?[/QUOTE]With some girls and some indies all is inclusive. CIM may be +40 $ and Anal may be +80 $. The going rate for an agency gitl is 200-250 $/ hour. Indies will be a bit more.

270 $-400 $. Be very careful about bargain hunting. This is where I have got burned. Also, more than what I have listed isn't always commensurate with a better experience. Know the sweet spot which is 220 $/ hour.

Write reviews and and include such information for others following in your wake.

Degrosify yourself prior to your appointments. Trim back your pubes and even shave that area down there and under your pits a few days prior and keep it shaven. Bleach your teeth. By a nose hair trimmer for 10 $ and make sure your don't have gross nose hairs sticking out. Use mouthwash and don't eat a heavy meal until after your session.

Do not eat onions or garlic. Do not try to shove your tongue down a girls throat (she will help you learn if you don't know). Make sure that your fingernails are clean and trimmed and where nice clothing like you are going on a date or to an interview and when you walk into an incall, go right to the shower even if you just took one. I like to have a bottle of wine and I make sure I have an opener and wine glasses. I let her open it or open it in her presence. I also bring a blue tooth and have music prerecorded or a playlist picked out.

[QUOTE=Micsmy31;2407615]
-What are the meetings like? What should I expect?

-I am a pretty shy guy in general, will that be an issue if I'm not the one initiating?

-Lastly, any recommendations on which agency / girl to see based on my profile?

Sorry for all the questions. I appreciate all the help you guys can offer![/QUOTE]Have a glass of wine and sit and talk with her for 10 minutes or so and let her warm up to you. Be complimentary. If you are shy, let her make the first move. These girls are pros.

Euphoria, XO, VOG, Montreal Sex City, Wild Times, Velvet Love are all great agencies. If you are really nervous, try Indy Gabrielle Garnier or maybe share a bottle of wine with Sexy Judy. She's got a promo and she may be able to loosen you up. Go two hours with these girls. My favorite is Sasha Johansen and she considers herself a quasi medical professional she was a Unicorn Healer and she can do a tantra massage if you don't know what the hell you are doing. Maybe anyone of these would be a great first pick.

A few answer to go along the excellent response of H.

"I'm looking for some info / advice. I'm a 33 year old male living in Montreal."

This board is great but honestly you would find quicker info on Merb, the local board.

"Is it safe to use my real phone number to contact these agencies?

I now use textme app with a local area number (514). I tough I would be blocked but nope.

"Where do the "meetings" take place? At my place, or their place?

I would suggest first time go incall.

"Are the prices I see online fixed or are there hidden fees I should know about?

Do not accept a girl that would ask extra for other thing then CIM / COF / greek. Like DATY, DFK. Should not be extra. Also the norm is 2 service within the hour. Me I do only one sog. Most probably because of that I often get freebies on extra.

"What are the meetings like? What should I expect?

You should expect some mind blowing experience! (and cock blowing as well of course).

"I am a pretty shy guy in general, will that be an issue if I'm not the one initiating?

I was too in the beginning. Because of that many girl took me for granted and provided me with sub par service. I didn't know any better. But I learned. I am still shy but capable of initiating.

"Lastly, any recommendations on which agency / girl to see based on my profile?

Girl I know who are not afraid to initiate.

Heaven, Amanda, Amber, Candice, Erica, Raphaelle, Sandy, stella at Euphoria.

Scarlett, Elly, Jaime (probably the cutest girl I ever had sex with), Ivey, Lolathebrat, Prisicilla (a disney princess turned naughty haha) at XO.

Sweet Kylie at velvet. When I saw her she did not give me the time to be shy as she started BJ within 10 second of entering the condo. Removed my coat, shoes, etc. As she kept blowing.

There are some great girl at Vog but I do not do outcall.

"Sorry for all the questions. I appreciate all the help you guys can offer!

After 5 years of being really active I now have slowed down considerably. The problem of being a local is the dangerous effect. Hard not to get hooked. Because if the girl dig you pretty soon you will not even book them. They will book you. And it's so hard to say no.

Cheers.

I have a choice for a visit to either London, England or Montreal, Canada for the purpose of pursuing our hobby this summer. Is there anyone here who has hobbied in both cities who care to advise on which city is better in that regard?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2411085]I have a choice for a visit to either London, England or Montreal, Canada for the purpose of pursuing our hobby this summer. Is there anyone here who has hobbied in both cities who care to advise on which city is better in that regard?[/QUOTE]Depends what your going for? London prices are insane. If your coming to see London for London it's one thing, but wouldn't come for the sake of a sexcation. London's a waaaaaay bigger city. Like NYC there's a ton to do and at any hour. However you could pay £200 and up / hour. If your a young guy you would be better served trying out your game and accent on civies.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2411085]I have a choice for a visit to either London, England or Montreal, Canada for the purpose of pursuing our hobby this summer. Is there anyone here who has hobbied in both cities who care to advise on which city is better in that regard?[/QUOTE]I also hope that someone with experience in both cities will respond, but there are a few threads on the local Canadian boards on this subject, and honestly the two cities have a lot more in common than they have in terms of differences.

Here of course is the most highly reviewed London agency.

[URL]https://www.divaescort.com/[/URL]

I enjoy reading Steve's and others reviews of them in the London ISG thread, and Diva is good about listing the service offered by each lady.

But I see ladies in Montreal and read the Montreal reviews on the local board, and the ladies from the big Montreal agencies do the same services detailed on the Diva website. BBBJ is standard in Montreal, CIM is sometimes standard, sometimes upsold for 30 Canadian more, and sometimes a BBBJ provider doesn't do CIM. Anal, when available, is a similar upsell in both countries. Montreal is a very sexual city, so most of the "standard" services listed on the Diva website are available in Montreal by asking during the session.

Here are four big Montreal agencies. The pictures are pretty accurate. Expect a 10-20 percent photoshopping effect.

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/models/[/URL]

[URL]http://vogmtl.com/escortes/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.velvetlovemtl.com/models[/URL]

London is slightly more incall oriented, so there is greater availability of 30 minute sessions. On the other hand, outcall seems to often cost more than incall in London, and that is not the case in Montreal. XO in Montreal is experimenting with 30 minute incall sessions, so we will see how it goes.

When I convert the prices to USA Dollars, I find them to be pretty similar for the two cities.

London is more famous for kink, but Montreal can hold its own in that category. Both cities are relatively more expensive for specialized services. But here is where I notice a difference. In Montreal, the higher you go on price for a lady offering fetishes, the more liberal her services are when it comes to offering items like CIM and anal. These two are great Montreal providers that I have seen.

[URL]https://twitter.com/UnicornFor3some[/URL]

[URL]https://www.lavieenaprilrose.com/[/URL]

When I go to the profiles of London independents offering a wide range of services, they can't wait to tell everyone that they don't offer CIM, anal, and even sometimes that BBBJ is discretionary. And there are a lot of CBJ only London independent escorts I don't link to. So among independents, I give the edge to Montreal in terms of services, even when kink is desired.

[URL]https://www.aliciadarlinglondon.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://poppyfoxldn.com/[/URL]

I know that isn't a big London sample, but the profiles are very similar for all the independents in the Collective they belong to.

And even when you come across a London independent who offers a lot of great services including CIM, anal and fetishes, I sometimes find their ads a bit "bossy" in terms of how they want customers to communicate with them and what hours they work, etc.

[URL]https://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1974272[/URL]

So a tie in terms of agency escorts in my estimation, and an edge to Montreal for independents. Just my opinion based on Montreal experiences and researching London. Those with actual London experiences will trump my opinion.

For what it is worth, I read a few more "bad miss" reviews of London escorts than Montreal escorts. There are not that many "bad miss" reviews for London, but the bluntness of the Eastern European providers causes this to happen sometimes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2411085]I have a choice for a visit to either London, England or Montreal, Canada for the purpose of pursuing our hobby this summer. Is there anyone here who has hobbied in both cities who care to advise on which city is better in that regard?[/QUOTE]I have hobbied in both locales with great success. London is one of my favorite cities in the world. I am still getting to know Montreal. London used to have a more fluid marketplace. In the past, I have relied upon ********* for lots of reviews and inside information. Their message board isn't what he forum used to be. More up to date info here on ISG. In London, I have mostly seen Eastern European chicas (Polish, Hungarian, Czech, etc.) with a couple English lasses thrown in. I never had a bad experience with a provider. I always have used independent providers (at least I thought that they were independent). I used to like the walk-ups at Shepherd's market for impromptu punts. I think that most, if not all of them are probably gone by now. One thing I learned is stay away from the strip clubs in Soho. I also never visited the meat markets near Soho. London is more expensive in virtually every way than Montreal. That said, Montreal is not a bargain-hunter's paradise.

In Montreal, I have seen mostly agency chicas (there are a couple good ones) and have not been disappointed. I love French Canadian chicas. Almost all of the chicas I have seen in Montreal have been smoking hot (8+) with rocking bodies (very little fat and big titties). I feel like the Canadian chicas are a little more natural PSE. Also, the strip clubs in Montreal are quite good and most are generally safe. I like Old Montreal (the European feel, restaurants, bars and boutique hotels).

If I was making the decision, I'd pick Montreal because I could probably save $1,000 on a week's stay just in hotel and restaurant expenses which I could deploy to 5 sessions with hot chicas.

[QUOTE=WindBlow;2406763]Hello all,

I'm planning (more like thinking about it) a short trip (a weekend) across the border sometime next month. Does anyone have experience crossing the border alone in the winter for only a two days trip? It would be driving from Boston on Saturday and returning on Sunday. Would the short turnaround raise a red flag? Too bad there isn't a major enough event going on in the city.

I could spend the money and time on local escorts but the quality isn't even close. I was going to make a trip North last year, but it didn't end up happening.[/QUOTE]For Americans coming up to Montreal. I'm pretty sure your best bet on coming in to Canada would be to say you're coming up to go to a couple of strip clubs. Maybe take in some music somewhere. And at least they won't be trying to guess what you might be doing. Hockey games, all that stuff. It's pretty easy for them to challenge your story. Hockey game for example. If you were that much of a Habs fan you would have your tickets with you. You would know a lot about them. Etc. You're not going to cross the border and drive to Montreal to buy tickets from a scalper. Probably. Anyway. The problem with stories is that certain other things go with them. And as soon as a customs or immigration agent senses you're not telling the truth then they have to figure out what's really going on.

You could probably say that you've heard that the women there are very beautiful. And you're hoping to find a great escort. They might give you a mini-lecture (or not) but at least you're coming in for something they understand.

Tell them that you are going to party. I always tell them that purpose is to visit night clubs, dancing, bar hopping and will be back in US on Sunday night because Monday I have to go back to work. They never question me back. Sometimes I get a female IO and they give me a wicked smile while returning back my passport. They are used to getting weekend male visitors who want to party in Canada because US is a lame ass country when it comes to having fun.

[QUOTE=WindBlow;2406763]Hello all,

I'm planning (more like thinking about it) a short trip (a weekend) across the border sometime next month. Does anyone have experience crossing the border alone in the winter for only a two days trip? It would be driving from Boston on Saturday and returning on Sunday. Would the short turnaround raise a red flag? Too bad there isn't a major enough event going on in the city.

I could spend the money and time on local escorts but the quality isn't even close. I was going to make a trip North last year, but it didn't end up happening.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys thanks for the low-down. I've always been meaning to revisit Montreal since my trips there in the 80's where I had significant jollification in numerous strip clubs. Although I did not partake of p4p they were indeed memorable jaunts. Perhaps I should visit both cities as they seem to provide equal jollity albeit in varying circumstances.

Hey guys,

2019 has been good to me and I've hence had the opportunity to meet with a decent amount of ladies. I like that this board accepts many reviews at once and hence won't post the same info on the green board, which is also useful.

Jan 2019 Khloe at euph.

Khloe has a generally good body, but her face and ass are what distinguishes her from the rest. It is unfortunate that she does not offer greek. BBBJ was good, not great.

Lazy doggy and reverse cowgirl are a must with this butt that is out of this world. She has previously been described as PAWG but this is exaggerated since her ass is not out of proportion, simply a good, round ass.

Would repeat.

Jan 2019 Taylor at euph.

I was greatly satisfied with Khloe and asked James to recommend to me a similar girl. In comes Taylor. She is not as tall as Khloe, is not as thin, but her boobs more than make up for it. Taylor does not seem to enjoy her job very much but she is still a decent fuck. I opted for CIM and greek is sadly not available with her. I wouldn't describe Taylor as overweight but she could easily lose 5-10 pounds, although I did enjoy her looks.

BBBJ was below average, sex was good and her body is very nice. Natural the cups, a fat ass (in a good way) and a very pretty face. Her body is not firm but still looks good because of her age.

Would probably not repeat unless I miss her body. It did turn me off that she asked me when I was going to cum when there was plenty of time left.

March 2019 Raphaelle at MM now at Euph.

Raphaelle's looks are under average for the MTL escort scene but her butt is out of this world. She is the total opposite of Taylor at Euph who has the looks but lacks the service. Raphaelle's service is some of the best you will get with agency girls. She loves her jobs and offers many extras including greek. I clearly remember her telling me she enjoys her jobs because she doesn't want any attachment to the many men she wants to fuck. Very cool.

Her BBBJ is good but gets better after you've made her cum, greek is great with that big ass. This was my second time with her so yes, I would repeat even though her breasts and face are underwhelming for the mtl escort scene. She is still a cute girl but so many are better looking IMHO.

March 2019 Elisa at Xo.

I finished my butt face with a model-like lady who somehow got lucky in the gene pool by being extremely thin and yet having a round and firm butt. Elisa has very long legs and has a more elegant look than, say, Taylor at Euph who is hot in a purely sexual way. Elisa's face is nice, without being anything out of this world, and she has tiny breasts that are just lovely.

Elisa enjoys her job and offers greek. When you see her ass you will not be able to refuse that option. Her BBBJ is very good, and 69 with her is fantastic! Definite repeat in 2020.

March 2019 Dasha at Xo.

Dasha has mixed reviews on the green board but she is very hot so people, including myself, are still tempted to see her. This was my first meh experience with XO who is a generally good agency. Dasha talked to me about her problems which aren't exactly of my interest because I can see my GF if I want to hear about such things. She is indeed very good looking, but I prefer Elisa who is similar but not as thin. In March 2019, Dasha was really thin and I do not think she has any health problem but it is simply not my personal taste. Very pretty, model-like, face and she offers many extras. Session was average, but unlike with Taylor at Euph, it could not be saved by a sinful body. I may have seen her on a bad day, which is what 50% of the reviews state whereas the other 50% is incredibly positive. I found her to be too bossy for my taste.

May 2019 Rebecca at Euphoria.

Being an ass man, I had to meet with the short Rebecca who was described to me as the best butt on the euphoria roster. She sadly seems to have retired, but Rebecca was one of my favorite encounters in 2019 as her service was impeccable, she has a beautiful face with blue eyes, and a round butt that god gifted her. Her body is overall very firm. Only downside is that she doesn't offer greek and did not work often.

She spent a great amount of time on the BBBJ with tons of spit and DT which made me feel in a porn movie. She can also take a good fuck and doesn't ask people when they're going to cum as many SPs unfortunately do.

I hope she comes back because she was a well kept secret with almost no reviews on the local board.

July 2019 Tiffany at Vog.

I definitely prefer incall but vog has a few ladies that are worth booking a hotel room for.

Tiffany is a legendary SP with a sinful body. One of the best faces in MTL. Great natural DDs and a round butt. Like Taylor, her body isn't firm but somehow looks amazing. I do not know how to express this into words.

Simply one of the best natural bodies I have seen. Tiffany's service is rather good but I do not know about the extras because I remember saying very little to her because I was shocked at how hot this girl is.

She rarely works but do see her when she does, you'll thank me later.

July 2019 Ashley at Vog.

Ashley has stellar reviews but I was somewhat disappointed with her. She is a decent SP but not a superstar. Nice firm body (Vog uses her for their main website photos) but the service was not anything to write home about. She is a sweet girl but I am not sure if she didn't like me, if she doesn't like her job, or if her service is usually this subpar (Or all 3! Still worth seeing for this youthful body IMO, but I wouldn't repeat.

August 2019 Noemie at Xo (now at Vog).

I rarely see girls like Heaven at Euph or Noemie at Xo because I prefer natural girls to the barbie look, but sometimes you feel like a barbie. Noemie is very sweet and seems to enjoy her job. BBBJ was above average, no DT and not enough spit but she did spent a lot of time on it and I appreciate the effort. She is rather submissive but is ready to do just about any position and 69. It's not like she lets you take the lead and then says "no" to every one of your suggestions. Her butt is spectacular and she has a nice face. The fake breasts are well done even though I always enjoy fake breasts more when a girl wears clothes than when you see them on a naked girl. She was probably hotter before is was I mean to say. Still very sweet and talented in bed.

November 2019 Alena at Xo.

I decided to see Alena simply because she is a true 18 year old. She is the most submissive girl I've seen in 2019 with the tightest body. She offers greek in MPOS which is something you rarely see anymore. Her face is cute but nothing more. I would recommend for those, like me, who like submissive girls. This goes for any girl, but she seems fragile emotionally and I hope you gents will be nice to her. She deserves it.

December 2019 Leah at Euph.

Leah is not facially attractive and seemed in shock. As always, maybe it was me, maybe she hates her job, or maybe she doesn't offer good service. She looked like she had a great body on euphoria's website but those photos are very much modified. I felt bad for her during the session. She doesn't want to be there at all.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2411521]For Americans coming up to Montreal. I'm pretty sure your best bet on coming in to Canada would be to say you're coming up to go to a couple of strip clubs. Maybe take in some music somewhere. And at least they won't be trying to guess what you might be doing. Hockey games, all that stuff. It's pretty easy for them to challenge your story. Hockey game for example. If you were that much of a Habs fan you would have your tickets with you. You would know a lot about them. Etc. You're not going to cross the border and drive to Montreal to buy tickets from a scalper. Probably. Anyway. The problem with stories is that certain other things go with them. And as soon as a customs or immigration agent senses you're not telling the truth then they have to figure out what's really going on.[/QUOTE]I love hockey and I watch the Habs when I visit Montreal. I wouldn't say buying last minute tickets is really unusual anymore. In fact, it's quite easy with Stubhub, etc. and electronic ticketing. It helps that I usually know something about the Habs.

Whatever you do, I would suggest not giving a backstory that is outside your comfort zone. If you say you are clubbing, know the name of a few clubs. If you're going to listen to music, know the name of venues.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2412945]I love hockey and I watch the Habs when I visit Montreal. I wouldn't say buying last minute tickets is really unusual anymore. In fact, it's quite easy with Stubhub, etc. and electronic ticketing. It helps that I usually know something about the Habs.

Whatever you do, I would suggest not giving a backstory that is outside your comfort zone. If you say you are clubbing, know the name of a few clubs. If you're going to listen to music, know the name of venues.[/QUOTE]What's wrong with saying that you are going to a hockey game? I am thinking of doing this next month because I truly want to see a game at Centre Bell and just take in the atmosphere of professional hockey in Quebec. I'm going to try to score corporate tickets but if they are taken I was thinking of going down and scalping at game time on the cheap. I go to baseball games around the country and the best way to see a game IMHO is to buy tickets same day at the box office because so many are turned in by season ticket owners that have no use for them.

I was going to buy a cheap ticket on line just as an excuse but then I thought why do this? Why not go down there and get a good ticket at game time for a lot less? Stub hub tickets can be so expensive for some seats.

WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS THE FOLLOWING: WILL SOME ASSHOLE SAY "SCALPING IS ILLEGAL HERE. ".

I know that crossing into Canada these days is like going behind the iron curtain. Jesus Christ, I smuggle electronics into Brazil for a friend and there isn't even someone to challenge me. I go to Europe and not a fucking question. I drove into Tijuana and I didn't realize I crossed the border but back and forth to Canada and expect the 5th degree and secondary questioning.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2413174]I was going to buy a cheap ticket on line just as an excuse but then I thought why do this? Why not go down there and get a good ticket at game time for a lot less? Stub hub tickets can be so expensive for some seats.[/QUOTE]I haven't used Stubhub in the last year, but prices closer to game time seem to be stubbornly sticky. They also have some rules for various venues to cut-off sales within an hour or two of the start time. That seems to preempt a big markdown.

You would think many tickets would be significantly marked down, but I have had season ticket holders on craigslist text me that I am a cheap bastard. Okay, eat your tickets. I'll find someone else who will sell them at that price.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2413174]I know that crossing into Canada these days is like going behind the iron curtain. Jesus Christ, I smuggle electronics into Brazil for a friend and there isn't even someone to challenge me. I go to Europe and not a fucking question. I drove into Tijuana and I didn't realize I crossed the border but back and forth to Canada and expect the 5th degree and secondary questioning.[/QUOTE]Perhaps the guys at the border are the same guys who are MERB moderators. Just a thought.

The guys at the border are just doing their job, And they are there to help everyone. It is their job to protect people and to ask questions. The problem is mainly travelers have such small egos that any little thing offends them. Everybody is treated the same and everybody has to answer 20 questions, so just calm down, Be honest, and answer the questions. Not so bad is it. Try not to get offended.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2411098]XO in Montreal is experimenting with 30 minute incall sessions, so we will see how it goes.[/QUOTE]Do you have any more info on that? I looked at the XO website and only see 1 hour rates advertised.

Coming from Toronto scene. I much prefer 30 min incall sessions, but Montreal looks to be all about outcalls and 1 hour minimum. What are my best options for 30 min incalls in Montreal?

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2413707]Do you have any more info on that? I looked at the XO website and only see 1 hour rates advertised.

Coming from Toronto scene. I much prefer 30 min incall sessions, but Montreal looks to be all about outcalls and 1 hour minimum. What are my best options for 30 min incalls in Montreal?[/QUOTE]A few ladies list half-hour rates. Not much of a discount, though.

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/liliana/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/svetlana/[/URL]

[URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/lauren/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2413707]Do you have any more info on that? I looked at the XO website and only see 1 hour rates advertised.

Coming from Toronto scene. I much prefer 30 min incall sessions, but Montreal looks to be all about outcalls and 1 hour minimum. What are my best options for 30 min incalls in Montreal?[/QUOTE]I saw Katie and Liliana who both offer half hour sessions. Both were great.

[QUOTE=JaliscoState;2412743]Hey guys,

2019 has been good to me and I've hence had the opportunity to meet with a decent amount of ladies. I like that this board accepts many reviews at once and hence won't post the same info on the green board, which is also useful.
l.[/QUOTE]This is really a nice list. Thanks for your efforts!

Say, I'm not familar much of the parlor scene for mtl.

Did try it in toronto a decade ago.

For adagio, as most any place, you pay the room fee / house fee.

Then the rest is how long you want the massage time for.

The site has a set rate per hour for massage time, but I'm also told it's $250/ per hour. I just don't want to be upsold and want to get the accurate pricing but if it's diff for each girl that gives a 'massage' per hour, at least there's clarity.

Are the girls within, each individually chargning different rates her hour (and presumably add on tips for different finishing services, right?

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2415011]Say, I'm not familar much of the parlor scene for mtl.

Did try it in toronto a decade ago.

For adagio, as most any place, you pay the room fee / house fee.

Then the rest is how long you want the massage time for.

The site has a set rate per hour for massage time, but I'm also told it's $250/ per hour. I just don't want to be upsold and want to get the accurate pricing but if it's diff for each girl that gives a 'massage' per hour, at least there's clarity.

Are the girls within, each individually chargning different rates her hour (and presumably add on tips for different finishing services, right?[/QUOTE]60-80 $ to book the room and the part you are worried about was 200 for the "best" service last time I was there. To be honest Adagio is well-known and even if there was a minor price increase I'd be surprised if you got played there. Nice business.

[QUOTE=JaliscoState;2415257]60-80 $ to book the room and the part you are worried about was 200 for the "best" service last time I was there. To be honest Adagio is well-known and even if there was a minor price increase I'd be surprised if you got played there. Nice business.[/QUOTE]Well, yeah they been around a long time, one can see via their website. & thank you for commenting.

Here's the thing for me. How likely are attendants working there able to 'get by' being regularly on shift, by just charging $250 an hour, and only for providing for massage.

(in this scenario it's 60 $-80 plus $250 for a 1 hour experience of. 310-330 $ cost, just for a 1 hour massage, for a customer.).

And this is where my unfamiliarity w / that adagio scene, but I'm more inclined to think the customers wouldn't line up for merely a massage for that price too often.

And she'd not make much money. And not last there very long. Unless she's actually providing 'more' services. Than just a massage?

If I go to a parlor, I'm thinking I'm busting a nut in there. Someway, some how, for 250 $ per hour.

Call euphoria or xo for an 1 h incall then. It makes no sense for you to go to a massage salon if you think this way.

I'd recommend the following SP's for massage and FS.

1. Lina at XO.

2. Jessica at XXXtase.

3. Elly at XO.

[QUOTE=JaliscoState;2415950]Call euphoria or xo for an 1 h incall then. It makes no sense for you to go to a massage salon if you think this way.[/QUOTE]

Tried this place a couple days ago after searching for "tantric massage" in Montreal. On the web site it shows you who's working and what their specialties are.

I chose Alex for her petite frame and style. In person she is at least 50% hotter than her pictures. Incredible body, face, and smile. I opted for the 90 minute session because the dollar is strong right now.

The spa itself is really, really nice. Marble everywhere, a high end glass shower stall, and a 12 person jacuzzi in every massage room. This place is nothing like what you find in the US.

I asked ahead if the girl goes in the jacuzzi with you, and they do. That's how your time starts. She is naked, and she comes in after you're already in.

She chatted and flirted with me, climbing and softly grinding on my lap. No penetration or hand release in the tub. Just teasing.

After 30 minutes you go to the massage table for the remaining hour of time. She does a full body nuru type massage, and as I said you're both naked. She moves like a hunting tigress. Hot af.

After much teasing she has you flip and mounts you in a 69 position. However you cannot attempt to touch or taste the poonani. They are very strict about this. She puts it right in front of your face and mouth though. So it's a great exercise in self discipline not to at least extend your tongue out.

She works on your goods with her hands and oil, edging very nicely. Eventually she takes you over the edge and it is wonderful.

The last 10 to 15 minutes or her laying next to you on the table, just talking and flirting and being really sweet. It's actually way more intimate than you would ever expect at a massage parlor.

Overall it was a great experience, and I put out two sixty USD total. They have a 90 room fee, then her tip is the remaining amount.

I will definitely go back.

[QUOTE=McCreeper;2418734]..................After much teasing she has you flip and mounts you in a 69 position. However you cannot attempt to touch or taste the poonani. They are very strict about this. She puts it right in front of your face and mouth though. So it's a great exercise in self discipline not to at least extend your tongue out...................[/QUOTE]No way I would be able to resist, I will capitulate and get banned.

Nothing special. She is always smiling not much of DFK (ymmv), very average BBBJ, OK FS.

She looks 70% of pictures. Overall OK. Will not repeat her.

[QUOTE=MtlBoy;2420221]Nothing special. She is always smiling not much of DFK (ymmv), very average BBBJ, OK FS.

She looks 70% of pictures. Overall OK. Will not repeat her.[/QUOTE]Where is Euphoria located.

Can we book only by phone?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Cmebefore;2420404]Where is Euphoria located.

Can we book only by phone?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]This is from their ad. You can also text them. The exact incall location is provided to you when you make an appointment. Montreal escorts work by appointment, regardless of whether it is incall or outcall.

[URL]WWW.EUPHORIAGIRLS.COM[/URL]

You can Call / Text us at the following number and we will be more than happy to help you:

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2420416]This is from their ad. You can also text them. The exact incall location is provided to you when you make an appointment. Montreal escorts work by appointment, regardless of whether it is incall or outcall.

[URL]WWW.EUPHORIAGIRLS.COM[/URL]

You can Call / Text us at the following number and we will be more than happy to help you:[/QUOTE]Thank you.

[QUOTE=Cmebefore;2420404]Where is Euphoria located.

Can we book only by phone?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Euphoria is the closest to downtown, walkable. XO and Velvet are very few subway stations from downtown.

Cheers.

Tried her Yesterday, Young 19 year old. Exotic mix thai and black. I don't think she is comfortable with this work. No LFK anal and digits. Usual BBBJ, FS. I don't think it is good idea to spend your hard earn money on her. Try her if you like young exotic girls.

Mtlboy.

Classy women. BBBJ, DFK and anal.

She not perfect but somehow I am attracted to her. I just want talk to her keep looking at her.

Will repeat. But I am biased.

[QUOTE=MtlBoy;2422326]Classy women. BBBJ, DFK and anal.

She not perfect but somehow I am attracted to her. I just want talk to her keep looking at her.

Will repeat. But I am biased.[/QUOTE]I am in the same boat as you. I just love that girl.

She is super busy in her other projects but still manage to appear on schedule once or twice a week. To tell you the truth she probably does to have sex as much if not more then $.

Cheers.

For the multitude of posters and lurkers wanting to see realistic photos of ladies, Sandy of Euphoria now has a twitter page with photos and videos, including her body art.

[URL]https://twitter.com/Sandy_mtlexp[/URL]

Her reviews on the local board are very good, and she did well in the annual best escort voting. Lots of DFK, BBBJ (CIM seems to be available for an upsell, but her base rate is lower than many ladies, making the upsell more tolerable), she usually brings a sex toy and loves DATY while she is using it, and one review says light BDSM is generally available.

Not my personal review or reviews, I am summarizing what many other reviewers have said, and pointing out another Montreal lady with an online presence that features selfie photos and videos.

[URL]https://www.euphoriagirls.com/sandy[/URL]

Have not yet see Sandy but she is high on my list. Most probably mid-March I will. All of what you wrote Mongerer88 I can confirm is true (good friend of mine saw her 4-5 times now). She can also dance, strip-tease, tease you a lot. One great girl of Montreal.

Now for those interested I have seen Lolathebrat. You can go read my review on the local board. She is one of a kind. A star among star. She can be sweet cool GFE (with deep long DFK) or really kinky (some actions needs to be message to her in advance via twitter to make sure she's ready).

Cheers.

Hello,

Anyone knows a similar indie to [URL]https://twitter.com/VanessaJolie_[/URL] ; seems like all the Montreal indies are below C cup.

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2424046]Hello,

Anyone knows a similar indie to [URL]https://twitter.com/VanessaJolie_[/URL] ; seems like all the Montreal indies are below C cup.[/QUOTE]True Montreal is renowned for small size spinner type. If boobs are above see they are often man made.

Would highly recoomand Sexy Judy. Maybe [URL]www.xshantiex.com[/URL] (never seen).

For these type of girl look in [URL]https://www.indycompanion.com/companions[/URL].

Cheers.

This thread has become ominously quiet lately especially since the outbreak of the Corona virus has spread into North America. Is it what this all about? Something is up. Mongering cannot possibly be stopped during the pandemic or, some would say, hysteria. Can it? LOL. My buddy and I have been debating about heading North within the next few weeks or not. At least, the northern border is not closed, or not yet. :-)

It would be helpful to find out if many mongers have recently crossed the borders and the kind of experience they have encountered. If you did cross the borders, were you questioned and passport verified where you've have been in the preceding 14 days? (If so, you must bring a passport book, instead of just a card, to show the history of stamps to prove where you've traveled to.) Were you interrogated more severely than usual about what you're doing specifically in MTL during this time of the year? Were you suggested to self quarantine by both sides of the borders? Were your forehead temperature checked as you would have checked at some airports?

What about the services from the WGs? Have they withheld certain service like DFK because they get paranoid about the Corona thing? Have the agencies asked where you're from to decide whether to let you see their WGs? I guess if you're into hobbying, the practice of 'social distancing' is pretty much out of the question. LOL. Any advice, recommendation, suggestion, warning, deterrence, comment, observation, thought, hint, whisper, etc. ?

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2433988]This thread has become ominously quiet lately especially since the outbreak of the Corona virus has spread into North America. Is it what this all about? Something is up. Mongering cannot possibly be stopped during the pandemic or, some would say, hysteria. Can it? LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't know what's happening up North, but it's a good bet are friend Jalimon was Canada's patient zero. That's not an insult. That's a complement based on the man's sexually active lifestyle.

He's also one of the best sources for what's happening on the ground in MTL real-time. If Jalimon is taking a break, then the P4P scene in MTL is quiet.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2435185]I don't know what's happening up North, but it's a good bet are friend Jalimon was Canada's patient zero. That's not an insult. That's a complement based on the man's sexually active lifestyle.

He's also one of the best sources for what's happening on the ground in MTL real-time. If Jalimon is taking a break, then the P4P scene in MTL is quiet.[/QUOTE]Haha thanks for the compliment.

I am at home self-quarantine as I came back from a trip down south last week. It's been 5 days now and bored to hell. Netflix helps me survive.

The scene is really quiet. A thread has been started on the local board to publicize, rightfully so, the girl who are taking on a break while life comes back to normal.

Can't wait for this craziness to pass and hopefully I will not be ruined financially!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2435185]I don't know what's happening up North.[/QUOTE]Canada has closed its borders to all countries including the USA for leisure travel. Canadians returning from travel are placed under a 2 week quarantine. Many Indies and some agency girls have announced on twitter that they are taking a break. If you have a favourite who is suffering financial difficulties you may want to consider helping her out.

I have a garlic clove necklace around my neck in case any vampires show up!

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2433988]This thread has become ominously quiet lately especially since the outbreak of the Corona virus has spread into North America. Is it what this all about? Something is up. Mongering cannot possibly be stopped during the pandemic or, some would say, hysteria. Can it? LOL. My buddy and I have been debating about heading North within the next few weeks or not. At least, the northern border is not closed, or not yet. :-)

It would be helpful to find out if many mongers have recently crossed the borders and the kind of experience they have encountered. If you did cross the borders, were you questioned and passport verified where you've have been in the preceding 14 days? (If so, you must bring a passport book, instead of just a card, to show the history of stamps to prove where you've traveled to.) Were you interrogated more severely than usual about what you're doing specifically in MTL during this time of the year? Were you suggested to self quarantine by both sides of the borders? Were your forehead temperature checked as you would have checked at some airports?

What about the services from the WGs? Have they withheld certain service like DFK because they get paranoid about the Corona thing? Have the agencies asked where you're from to decide whether to let you see their WGs? I guess if you're into hobbying, the practice of 'social distancing' is pretty much out of the question. LOL. Any advice, recommendation, suggestion, warning, deterrence, comment, observation, thought, hint, whisper, etc. ?[/QUOTE]The scene in mtl is dead.

1) Euphoria, XO, Velvet, Vogue, multiple MP, and all strip clubs are closed.

2) Indy all over twitter are announcing they are on break. Indy all over tweeter are announcing how slow it is and to stay strong, etc.

3) Green has removed their ad sections entirely.

4) Sites like leolist have the fewest ads I've ever seen.

5) I'd guess any client over 60 won't take even a minuscule chance. Any client over 35 may be hesistant because they have older parents. And of course no travel in or out.

I predict the ladies won't have many booking until maybe August. It could be even longer, if the virus mutates.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2438277]The scene in mtl is dead.[/QUOTE]As it should be.

Glad to see that finally agencies are closed and independents are sticking to Skype, onlyfans and other online ways of generating an income without seeing anyone in person.

We all need to do our part no matter the age, yes it is much more dangerous for the elderly and people with serious health issues but there is no 100% guarantee for the young either.

An escort confirmed to me she had Cov19, which is why she stopped seeing clients. It dawned on me later that some ladies have probably gone on hiatus for the same reason. The prescribed solution is 2 weeks away from the world, but it's possible you can be contagious weeks after that. And sex is a lot more close contact than a way ward cough or sneeze.

I have not posted reviews or mentioned her in any of my old post.

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[QUOTE=Frank11;2447158]Lonely town.[/QUOTE]So guys seriously if you buy tickets for Montreal in the next few months just make sure you have a free cancellation policy.

Nothing is happening right now. And something else is happening, at least for me, as all girl I was messaging once in a while in the past cut me off. They just do no bothered replying. I understand completely as I am useless to them now. I respect that anyhow the day this starts over most probably all of them will have moved to something else.

I will concentrate on keeping myself fit while hoping we can still physically meet some girls in 2020!

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2448484]So guys seriously if you buy tickets for Montreal in the next few months just make sure you have a free cancellation policy.

Nothing is happening right now. And something else is happening, at least for me, as all girl I was messaging once in a while in the past cut me off. They just do no bothered replying. I understand completely as I am useless to them now. I respect that anyhow the day this starts over most probably all of them will have moved to something else.

I will concentrate on keeping myself fit while hoping we can still physically meet some girls in 2020![/QUOTE]It's bound to happen that they will ignore you now. They have found other unique ways to earn their livelihood like can sex and online shows. And on top of that there is no dearth of people willing to pay.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2448484]And something else is happening, at least for me, as all girl I was messaging once in a while in the past cut me off. They just do no bothered replying. I understand completely as I am useless to them now.[/QUOTE]This is common in any business relationship not just with escorts. Once the transactional benefit is removed, the service provider or salesperson moves on no matter how much of a friendship had appeared to develop.

[QUOTE=PokeMe;2448575]It's bound to happen that they will ignore you now. They have found other unique ways to earn their livelihood like can sex and online shows. And on top of that there is no dearth of people willing to pay.[/QUOTE]Need to keep emotions away from the mongering life.

Unless there is a good reason to do so, it is not a good idea for a service provider to ignore a client. Business may be 0 at the moment, but in the future the client may once again be profitable for the provider. Besides this it doesn't hurt anyone to keep old friends And business contacts. Business is about building lifelong economic networks. Instead of thinking about how much money can be made today tomorrow or next week it's more about building trust and reliability for decades to come. 1st comes the reputation, the social network, and then the profits.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2449436]Unless there is a good reason to do so, it is not a good idea for a service provider to ignore a client. Business may be 0 at the moment, but in the future the client may once again be profitable for the provider. Besides this it doesn't hurt anyone to keep old friends And business contacts. Business is about building lifelong economic networks. Instead of thinking about how much money can be made today tomorrow or next week it's more about building trust and reliability for decades to come. 1st comes the reputation, the social network, and then the profits.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100%. Having many business relationships over a few decades, I can say it's not unusual for younger people to not think long-term. I have had a lot of business friendships that just flat out ended when the business aspect was over. More mature (not just a function of age) business people seem to understand that are paths might cross again.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2448484]So guys seriously if you buy tickets for Montreal in the next few months just make sure you have a free cancellation policy.

Nothing is happening right now. And something else is happening, at least for me, as all girl I was messaging once in a while in the past cut me off. They just do no bothered replying. I understand completely as I am useless to them now. I respect that anyhow the day this starts over most probably all of them will have moved to something else.

I will concentrate on keeping myself fit while hoping we can still physically meet some girls in 2020![/QUOTE]What type of messages where you sending them? How long have you been waiting for a reply? I sent a message to someone I haven't met and she responded after maybe 2 weeks. In her case, I get the sense she wasn't checking anything, since her Twitter went dark for about the same amount of time. Personally, I would not bother seeing a girl again no matter how good she was in the past, if she ignored a communication. Though, if she makes some kind of tepid excuse after that fact in a reply, I'd find that good enough to not disregard premium service.

As for girls moving on, I doubt too many will. Everything is quiet now because the 16 weeks of gouverment aid can't have been exhausted by anyone yet. That's all coming to an end in July. It will either be get a job in the essential service places hiring, sustain with OnlyFans / other virtual services, or go, back to escorting regardless of how the cov19 curve is. Of course, I guess the girls wpuld also have the option of school, or if they had some other career to pursue or continue prior. The thing is, I don't think too many had another career in tandem with escort. Not to the point they wanted to quit the money they were making from escorting altogether. In fact, I imagine some have built up a life were the loss of those thousands would mean the sudden end of their elevated comfort. So.. they will be back. Maybe the scene won't be as friendly because guy's will be poorer, scared, and so on. I don't know, but I do think the old saying of once a you know what always a you know what isn't that far off for many.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2450531]What type of messages where you sending them? How long have you been waiting for a reply? I sent a message to someone I haven't met and she responded after maybe 2 weeks. In her case, I get the sense she wasn't checking anything, since her Twitter went dark for about the same amount of time. Personally, I would not bother seeing a girl again no matter how good she was in the past, if she ignored a communication. Though, if she makes some kind of tepid excuse after that fact in a reply, I'd find that good enough to not disregard premium service.

As for girls moving on, I doubt too many will. Everything is quiet now because the 16 weeks of gouverment aid can't have been exhausted by anyone yet. That's all coming to an end in July. It will either be get a job in the essential service places hiring, sustain with OnlyFans / other virtual services, or go, back to escorting regardless of how the cov19 curve is. Of course, I guess the girls wpuld also have the option of school, or if they had some other career to pursue or continue prior. The thing is, I don't think too many had another career in tandem with escort. Not to the point they wanted to quit the money they were making from escorting altogether. In fact, I imagine some have built up a life were the loss of those thousands would mean the sudden end of their elevated comfort. So.. they will be back. Maybe the scene won't be as friendly because guy's will be poorer, scared, and so on. I don't know, but I do think the old saying of once a you know what always a you know what isn't that far off for many.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. Don't even try to connect with a girl who doesn't give a damn to your message. It simply means that she is not interested anymore to meet you because she may have found a more high paying client. In mongering it's a lesson all should learn. Regarding the girls coming again to business, I am also of that opinion, and I think even the girls who have left it earlier maybe be back in business because of economic slowdown.

You would have to know the context of the communication to make a judgment. While it is shortsighted for an escort to not respond to male admirers, they are not required to make chit-chat with guys during the pandemic.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2450896]You would have to know the context of the communication to make a judgment. While it is shortsighted for an escort to not respond to male admirers, they are not required to make chit-chat with guys during the pandemic.[/QUOTE]If this is regards to an escort, then the question arises why they list their profiles in the first place?

[QUOTE=Gamer76;2451029]If this is regards to an escort, then the question arises why they list their profiles in the first place?[/QUOTE]Everyone has to consider the pandemic. The business is on hiatus.

I believe a post by Jalimon began this discussion. I have been following his posts for over two years. He sounds like he has some nice relationships with several Montreal escorts. From what I am told by other locals, the girls like him. I just don't think every escort is open to real friendship and communication outside of the work relationship.

As we discussed, is it short-sighted for escorts to cut-off communication. Yes, probably. If she's hot and offers good service, I bet Jalimon sets up an appointment with her if she is back when things open up.

On a slight tangent, this kind of reminds me of the porn stars who on social media talk about how much they like fucking many guys, many women, can't wait to shoot scenes, love anal, etc. Etc. Then they retire and then they go on and on about how they hated working in porn, didn't like this or that.

Wow, been lurking various country board, looking for a nice country to make my first sex vacation. Montreal looks perfect!

I'm hoping things open up in August. Can't make any firm plans but planning to see April Rose and visit one of the Nuru massage places. Do any of those location do full service?

Montreal sounds like an amazing place for a first time monger. Planning to visit in August. Hope the lockdown ends by then.

[QUOTE=Youhadmeatbbbj;2451974]Wow, been lurking various country board, looking for a nice country to make my first sex vacation. Montreal looks perfect!

I'm hoping things open up in August. Can't make any firm plans but planning to see April Rose and visit one of the Nuru massage places. Do any of those location do full service?[/QUOTE]Hopefully life will be better by August.

There is a lot of full-service at massage parlors, but it is difficult to get good information.

The combination of a mayor who hated erotic massage parlors and the possibility of that being the one venue where the new anti-prostitution law might get enforced, caused the information to go dry, and makes the establishments reluctant to give information to a new customer. So you just have to take your chance and bring some tip money.

Escorts are more of a sure thing, and there is plenty of information available on them.

[QUOTE=YouHadMeAtbbbj;2451974]Wow, been lurking various country board, looking for a nice country to make my first sex vacation. Montreal looks perfect!

I'm hoping things open up in August. Can't make any firm plans but planning to see April Rose and visit one of the Nuru massage places. Do any of those location do full service?[/QUOTE]Montreal is amazing yes. Services at massage places cannot be openly discussed.

I have been to quite a few places like Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Portugal but in my opinion Montreal is even better.

In August of this year you may not have full regular services like before the pandemic. As of now we have no clue how it will be like.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2450896]You would have to know the context of the communication to make a judgment. While it is shortsighted for an escort to not respond to male admirers, they are not required to make chit-chat with guys during the pandemic.[/QUOTE]The context was a bit different yes. Some I was helping them get some bookings (long story.). Some may get back to me but I do not expect much. Things have changed. Anyhow I do understand these girl have in majority just short term goal. This is not regular business.

And things have changed for me too. 2020 was the year of my semi-retirement (from work not from girls! I took many important decision and acted on them (while stuck in my house!) and now there is no way I will go back to the same level in this hobby (which was about once a week).

I will soon become an has been.

I'm planning my first-ever mongering visit to Montreal next month. I went back several pages here and discovered lots of useful information. I'm planning at least two sessions:

1) hands-down, my top choice is Nala Baez of escortsxo dot com, she's received good reviews and I've also enjoyed her reading her Twitter and Curious Cat accounts, she seems like a really nice person and appears to be very beautiful (plus I love her 95 lbs. 5' 1" spinner body). On Wednesday Nala posted on Twitter that she was going to start working again next week, look forward to seeing her.

2) several possible choices for my second session, including Montreal Nuru (which humorously has a page of rules on their website stating "There is strictly no sex or fellatio permitted – do not waste your time asking our Nuru hostesses. NO touching between the hostesses legs is tolerated" Adagio (which also offers nuru with the possibility of more, I like Angelina a 5' 2" 115 lbs. Thai woman) or the mysterious Oh Plaisir a new spa that before the shutdown only had one or two women on duty (all Middle Eastern). Both Montreal Nuru and Adagio will re-open June 1st, no word on Oh Plaisir.

Or I could just have a second session with Nala.

Escorts xo and Montreal Nuru have all-inclusive pricing and I'm sure that a $20 tip on top would be appreciated. Adagio and Oh Plaisir give only the house fee. Any feedback or suggestions on tips or anything else?

MTL Is among the best; has been my go to spot in and America for awhile but now I worry about the service levels I'll find whenever things open up. Especially DFK, which along with BBBJ and FIV, are the activities that are 'must haves' for me. Not only will it be difficult to find DFK from the girls, given my health status, I'm worried about the consequences myself. CFS is nice but really more of an extra since I hate condoms. What do you think of the idea of trading DFK for BBFS (with a recent STD test)? I'the argue that it's going to be safer than standard GFE. I'll even wear a mask while I'm doing her!

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2453694]Montreal is amazing yes. Services at massage places cannot be openly discussed.

I have been to quite a few places like Netherlands, Germany, Spain, Portugal but in my opinion Montreal is even better.

In August of this year you may not have full regular services like before the pandemic. As of now we have no clue how it will be like.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2453700]The context was a bit different yes. Some I was helping them get some bookings (long story.). Some may get back to me but I do not expect much. Things have changed. Anyhow I do understand these girl have in majority just short term goal. This is not regular business.

And things have changed for me too. 2020 was the year of my semi-retirement (from work not from girls! I took many important decision and acted on them (while stuck in my house!) and now there is no way I will go back to the same level in this hobby (which was about once a week).

I will soon become an has been.[/QUOTE]Has any girls hit anyone up for spare cash during these months?

I got one case of that.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2454715]What do you think of the idea of trading DFK for BBFS (with a recent STD test)? I'the argue that it's going to be safer than standard GFE. I'll even wear a mask while I'm doing her![/QUOTE]If you're not joking, then are you crazy?

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2454681]I'm planning my first-ever mongering visit to Montreal next month. [/QUOTE]Will you be flying or driving into MTL? If driving, I think the borders are still closed for leisure travelers until the end of this month. Can someone confirm that? I believe the reputable agencies have reopened as I've just checked their websites. However, only a small number of ladies is available. It would be helpful to read local reports from mongers who have recently used these agencies after the reopening. Will the agencies become more cautious about what type of customers they would accept by asking questions that are related to certain risk profiles like age or geography? (For example, if you're from NYC where the pandemic hot zone is, they may not want their ladies to see you.) Will the services be the same as before or become more limited like no DFK due to the fear or paranoia of Covid-19? Will you be required to wear masks to walk into a hotel? These are the questions pending to be answered.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2455423]............. Will the agencies become more cautious about what type of customers they would accept by asking questions that are related to certain risk profiles like age or geography?.............[/QUOTE]Regarding age the greater risk for the girls would be the younger client who generally would show no symptoms. Chances are the older covid-19 positive man would not be feeling well and receiving treatment.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2455423]Will you be flying or driving into MTL? If driving, I think the borders are still closed for leisure travelers until the end of this month. Can someone confirm that? I believe the reputable agencies have reopened as I've just checked their websites. However, only a small number of ladies is available. It would be helpful to read local reports from mongers who have recently used these agencies after the reopening. Will the agencies become more cautious about what type of customers they would accept by asking questions that are related to certain risk profiles like age or geography? (For example, if you're from NYC where the pandemic hot zone is, they may not want their ladies to see you.) Will the services be the same as before or become more limited like no DFK due to the fear or paranoia of Covid-19? Will you be required to wear masks to walk into a hotel? These are the questions pending to be answered.[/QUOTE]Borders are closed until 6/21. But review for extension would usually happen by 15th of the month.

Non essential travellers are not allowed.

But if you are flying from Canada to usa, you'd be allowed as american rules do not apply to air border. So not the other way around as Canada's agents will block all non-essential visitors.

i'd say the roster of girls reporting for work at the agencies is pretty near full actually. and 1 agency seems to me, to have raised their prices.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2454715]What do you think of the idea of trading DFK for BBFS (with a recent STD test)? I'the argue that it's going to be safer than standard GFE. I'll even wear a mask while I'm doing her![/QUOTE]Not a good idea at all. You will be kicked out by the girl and banned from the agency. This is a big no goin this industry.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2455585]i'd say the roster of girls reporting for work at the agencies is pretty near full actually. and 1 agency seems to me, to have raised their prices.[/QUOTE]I am quite surprised actually. Many more then I would have tough. And also correct one agency did raised just a bit.

Still no news from famous Lolathebrat.

As for myself I had my first session since end of February. A Mexican girl who is not even yet an SP. Kind of a test run. 90 minutes. I usually have 1 sog per day. I got 3 in 90 minutes with her. Could not fucking believe it! Once she officially work as an SP I will let you know.

It's good to have some fun again fuck!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2455567]Regarding age the greater risk for the girls would be the younger client who generally would show no symptoms. Chances are the older covid-19 positive man would not be feeling well and receiving treatment.[/QUOTE]Well true, but the girls are likely not at risk. They will generally show no or mild symptoms, but will pass it on to their older clientele who will have a reaction.

Let's be real here. Unless you are over 70, very overweight or have a weakened immune system, this will not be a big risk for you. This isn't the message necessarily being communicated, but it is the reality.

We shouldn't being scaring people.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2455631]As for myself I had my first session since end of February. A Mexican girl who is not even yet an SP. Kind of a test run. 90 minutes. I usually have 1 sog per day. I got 3 in 90 minutes with her. Could not fucking believe it! Once she officially work as an SP I will let you know.

It's good to have some fun again fuck![/QUOTE]Jalimon, is there ever a new girl in Montreal that you don't test drive before they debut to the public?

Don't get me wrong, the old arrangement is just fine for me! I'll just be interested if DFK is still on offer going forward. And to make the point that AO (with a recent test like in porn) might be less risky than GFE. I certainly wouldn't do anything without consent.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2455627]Not a good idea at all. You will be kicked out by the girl and banned from the agency. This is a big no goin this industry.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2455676]Well true, but the girls are likely not at risk. They will generally show no or mild symptoms, but will pass it on to their older clientele who will have a reaction.

Let's be real here. Unless you are over 70, very overweight or have a weakened immune system, this will not be a big risk for you. This isn't the message necessarily being communicated, but it is the reality.

We shouldn't being scaring people.[/QUOTE]Well, for the older client it is, as they say, caveat emptor.

Hi,

I wanted to know if there is FS on the menu cards since they have separate fees for the masseuse and the counter.

It's going to be my first time so I'll be grateful for a head's up.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2455678]Jalimon, is there ever a new girl in Montreal that you don't test drive before they debut to the public?[/QUOTE]Haha funny but no not at all. I have never test drive an unknown girl before. Quite the opposite I am one who see many girl that have quit the biz 'officially' but continue to see some off the record.

So this girl is hesitating at working officially as an SP. I told her what to expect, how much she could make (a lot) but also that she could perfectly make enough needed while having fun on her own.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2455681]Don't get me wrong, the old arrangement is just fine for me! I'll just be interested if DFK is still on offer going forward. And to make the point that AO (with a recent test like in porn) might be less risky than GFE. I certainly wouldn't do anything without consent..[/QUOTE]I understand you point. The problem is these girl face so many situation regarding BBFS that they just won't trust anyone. Which is normal.

By the way DFK is full on from what I heard. Which is normal. We know much more about the virus now. A one on one encounter is very low risk.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2455857] I told her what to expect, how much she could make (a lot) but also that she could perfectly make enough needed while having fun on her own.[/QUOTE]How much do you guys think they can make?

A newspaper article quoted that a top earner could make between 30000 and 90000 a year. But not everyone has those types of skills and talents. Examples: above-average good looks (talent), being able to relate well with the customers (skill), make customers feel welcome (skill), and being okay with being known around the city or "famous" (skill). Plus they have to be hard workers because to make that much it's a full schedule. Obviously a superstar can make more than most other competitors. Not everyone is a superstar.

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2455423]Will you be flying or driving into MTL? If driving, I think the borders are still closed for leisure travelers until the end of this month. Can someone confirm that? I believe the reputable agencies have reopened as I've just checked their websites. However, only a small number of ladies is available. It would be helpful to read local reports from mongers who have recently used these agencies after the reopening. Will the agencies become more cautious about what type of customers they would accept by asking questions that are related to certain risk profiles like age or geography? (For example, if you're from NYC where the pandemic hot zone is, they may not want their ladies to see you.) Will the services be the same as before or become more limited like no DFK due to the fear or paranoia of Covid-19? Will you be required to wear masks to walk into a hotel? These are the questions pending to be answered.[/QUOTE]Yes, lots of questions, I look forward to reading the posts here as Jalimon2 and other local mongers post about their experiences.

I'll be driving to Montreal from New England, so it looks like I won't be able to make my visit until after June 21st.

Strangely, within 24 hours of my posting that I had enjoyed reading Nala of escortsxo dot com's Twitter account (information that is posted on her escortsxo web page), she changed the setting on her account to Private and her profile photo from a recent full-body photo with her face partially blurred to a photo that only shows her mid-torso. Coincidence? Or did I accidentally scare her off?

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2455859]..............By the way DFK is full on from what I heard. Which is normal. We know much more about the virus now. A one on one encounter is very low risk.[/QUOTE]I'm here south of Canada and ever since mid March I have not DFK'd any escorts which was my choice. Being north of sixty I am rather spooked and DFK seems to be the riskiest activity.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2455973]How much do you guys think they can make?

A newspaper article quoted that a top earner could make between 30000 and 90000 a year. But not everyone has those types of skills and talents. Examples: above-average good looks (talent), being able to relate well with the customers (skill), make customers feel welcome (skill), and being okay with being known around the city or "famous" (skill). Plus they have to be hard workers because to make that much it's a full schedule. Obviously a superstar can make more than most other competitors. Not everyone is a superstar.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't guess. I would say 90,000 seems low if you are a solid escort at one of the top agencies or a popular independent. However, that's probably a small universe relative to the entire MTL scene.

When I am in Montreal, the solid (not just the superstars) agency performers seem to work four-five days a week and have full dance cards. I have no idea how many appointments they have a day. It obviously a personal choice. I have to believe they also see regulars on the side. E.

As far as agency superstars, many of them spread their wings and go independent. Their reputations allow them to charge 300,350 and up per hour. That's obviously an even smaller circle of women. And at the very top of that group, the girls are being booked for overnighters and out of town trips on occasion. Some of the girls keep busy and in demand by rotating across Canadian cities.

My point and situation exactly. But a session without DFK is hardly worth it for me and certainly not worth a trip north. And don't underestimate the risk to the girls who will be DFKing 5-6 guys a day. Hence I was musing about the idea of a trade in service levels.

One encounter is only one point of contact but the activity is pretty sure to pass the virus if either of you have it. On a typical trip to MTL I might see 5-7 girls.

But nobody really knows the risk. When this started I made a top 10 list in my head of those in my circle who would be in grave danger. 2 of them got infected but recovered quite nicely. Go figure.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2455994]I'm here south of Canada and ever since mid March I have not DFK'd any escorts which was my choice. Being north of sixty I am rather spooked and DFK seems to be the riskiest activity.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2456020]My point and situation exactly. But a session without DFK is hardly worth it for me and certainly not worth a trip north. And don't underestimate the risk to the girls who will be DFKing 5-6 guys a day. Hence I was musing about the idea of a trade in service levels.

One encounter is only one point of contact but the activity is pretty sure to pass the virus if either of you have it. On a typical trip to MTL I might see 5-7 girls.

But nobody really knows the risk. When this started I made a top 10 list in my head of those in my circle who would be in grave danger. 2 of them got infected but recovered quite nicely. Go figure.[/QUOTE]As I said earlier, we shouldn't be exaggerating the impact of COVID unless you are over 70, very overweight or have a weakened immune system.

The numbers you posted up above did make me think. If a girl can be an asymptomatic carrier for on average 14 days, DFKing 5-6 guys a day four times week is 280-336 guys over the preceding two weeks. If you see 5-7 girls on a visit, you are exposed to 1,400-2350 other people via DFKing. Even if we allow for 50% overlap of men, that's 700-1175 people.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2455994]I'm here south of Canada and ever since mid March I have not DFK'd any escorts which was my choice. Being north of sixty I am rather spooked and DFK seems to be the riskiest activity.[/QUOTE]I should have express myself better. From what we know now about the virus is the most contagion occurs in public closed areas with a lot of people where you stay for a particular amount of time. Like a restaurant, a stadium, a theatre, a packed subway etc.

With an SP you are one on one in a private area. So the risks are very very low. But you are staying for a good amount of time. So if one of the 2 is infected the other will be also by the end. DFK, mask, washing hands, shower. Won't matter. You will get it unless you are immune.

So if you decide to do a session accept the risk and go full out at it with DFK and all.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456089]As I said earlier, we shouldn't be exaggerating the impact of COVID unless you are over 70, very overweight or have a weakened immune system.

The numbers you posted up above did make me think. If a girl can be an asymptomatic carrier for on average 14 days, DFKing 5-6 guys a day four times week is 280-336 guys over the preceding two weeks. If you see 5-7 girls on a visit, you are exposed to 1,400-2350 other people via DFKing. Even if we allow for 50% overlap of men, that's 700-1175 people.[/QUOTE]I disagree with your math. It assumes too much likelihood of transmission in my opinion.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/70-people-infected-coronavirus-did-213700577.html[/URL]

You are more likely to get it singing in the church choir than having sex with an escort.

I would substitute getting a BBBJ for DFK to get a full erection just in case, since it is logical than DFK is a super-spreader activity.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2455973]How much do you guys think they can make?

A newspaper article quoted that a top earner could make between 30000 and 90000 a year. But not everyone has those types of skills and talents. Examples: above-average good looks (talent), being able to relate well with the customers (skill), make customers feel welcome (skill), and being okay with being known around the city or "famous" (skill). Plus they have to be hard workers because to make that much it's a full schedule. Obviously a superstar can make more than most other competitors. Not everyone is a superstar.[/QUOTE]The vast majority do this only part time. To earn a bit to pay for school, appartment, avoid to work at long hours at Starbuck and / or unfortunately to afford their crazy lifestyle.

But the one who are serious about it, who like sex as much as money, it can be really good.

I was a regular of one who worked 18 months. She reached 150 k and retired to focus on finishing school. I know one that has 2 condo's that are fully paid. She's 23! Just do the math a popular girl can ask 350/ hour, see 3 client a day, 5 days a week and she racks up 165 k in a year.

The wise one will declare a chunk of revenue to pay taxes. They know it's a must to eventually go back to normal life.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2456137]I disagree with your math. It assumes too much likelihood of transmission in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

The math is for exposure to other people in a chain. If one man with COVID DFKs a woman and then you DFK with her, that is a exposure to COVID. I believe Jalimon said that a session is one on one and low risk. That doesn't make much sense to me.

As I have said here, the risks are very low for most of the population. In fact, some of us could be asymptomatic ourselves.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2456138]But the one who are serious about it, who like sex as much as money, it can be really good.[/QUOTE]If you are good-looking and / or charming, perhaps they are thinking of only you during the session. Unfortunately when they are with me, they are thinking of being with Jalimon. :(

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2455974]...Strangely, within 24 hours of my posting that I had enjoyed reading Nala of escortsxo dot com's Twitter account (information that is posted on her escortsxo web page), she changed the setting on her account to Private and her profile photo from a recent full-body photo with her face partially blurred to a photo that only shows her mid-torso. Coincidence? Or did I accidentally scare her off?[/QUOTE]I posted the above yesterday. This morning, I checked Twitter and lo and behold, Nala Baez's Twitter account is no longer private (although the profile photo still shows an older, mid-torso-only image). Coincidence? Or does Nala read ISG?

I can't speak for Canada, but here in the US I know of many SWs who regularly read USA SG, ISG and other boards to see what's being said about them. A couple of them are even members themselves. A female provider in Hong Kong used to write some of the most informative posts on ISG's Hong Kong page (not sure if she's still posting).

Still looking forward to seeing Nala in Montreal once the border re-opens to tourists; hopefully, she won't move to Toronto for the summer like she did last year.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2456302]I posted the above yesterday. This morning, I checked Twitter and lo and behold, Nala Baez's Twitter account is no longer private (although the profile photo still shows an older, mid-torso-only image). Coincidence? Or does Nala read ISG?

I can't speak for Canada, but here in the US I know of many SWs who regularly read USA SG, ISG and other boards to see what's being said about them. A couple of them are even members themselves. A female provider in Hong Kong used to write some of the most informative posts on ISG's Hong Kong page (not sure if she's still posting).

Still looking forward to seeing Nala in Montreal once the border re-opens to tourists; hopefully, she won't move to Toronto for the summer like she did last year.[/QUOTE]ISG is not that popular in Montreal. I think some of our local participants like Jalimon and Cloudsurf came over because they heard they were being mentioned.

Nala Baez is a buxomous spinner who has been around for a few years. I believe she was with the now defunct agency Mike's Mansion. She seems to post revealing photos on and off. I seem to remember one time she posted a facial shot. I could be wrong. In any event, many of the escorts alternate between very revealing shots and less revealing shots. Who knows why? Perhaps, they have a mood where they feel private. Maybe they post revealing shots to gin up business.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456286]The math is for exposure to other people in a chain. If one man with COVID DFKs a woman and then you DFK with her, that is a exposure to COVID. I believe Jalimon said that a session is one on one and low risk. That doesn't make much sense to me.

As I have said here, the risks are very low for most of the population. In fact, some of us could be asymptomatic ourselves.[/QUOTE]I still say the risk are very low in a one on one session. The chance of you or the girl to be infected are very low because there is only 2 people in the room. When there is much more like a restaurant, subway, etc. The risk increase by 10 fold. Remember this virus fly in the air quite long time. It's not and std.

But I did wrote that if one of the 2 is affected by the virus (of course asympomaticaly if not he / she would not be there!) then you are screwed. DFK or not does not matter. Spending 1 h in a closed area with someone infected will do it and get you infected.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456288]If you are good-looking and / or charming, perhaps they are thinking of only you during the session. Unfortunately when they are with me, they are thinking of being with Jalimon.[/QUOTE]In life I love people with sarcasm and humility. You nailed it here haha.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456288]If you are good-looking and / or charming, perhaps they are thinking of only you during the session. Unfortunately when they are with me, they are thinking of being with Jalimon. :([/QUOTE]Yes one time I was with one of the girls and of course I'm just a client, she was saying she was my friend too, we should hang out sometime, all those sweet things she was telling me, and then when she started moaning she said " oh jalimon" instead of "oh and "my real name.""

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456286]The math is for exposure to other people in a chain. If one man with COVID DFKs a woman and then you DFK with her, that is a exposure to COVID. I believe Jalimon said that a session is one on one and low risk. That doesn't make much sense to me.

As I have said here, the risks are very low for most of the population. In fact, some of us could be asymptomatic ourselves.[/QUOTE]I think what he meant was that because it is one on one and not in a group setting like a club or concert where you are exposed to many people that may be carriers the risk is low.

However if she has the virus at the infectious stage your chance of getting it is probably 100% whether you DFK or not as you are up close and personal for an hour or more.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456322]ISG is not that popular in Montreal. I think some of our local participants like Jalimon and Cloudsurf came over because they heard they were being mentioned.

Nala Baez is a buxomous spinner who has been around for a few years. I believe she was with the now defunct agency Mike's Mansion. She seems to post revealing photos on and off. I seem to remember one time she posted a facial shot. I could be wrong. In any event, many of the escorts alternate between very revealing shots and less revealing shots. Who knows why? Perhaps, they have a mood where they feel private. Maybe they post revealing shots to gin up business.[/QUOTE]Buxomous is right! It's hard to believe that someone as tiny as Nala has boobs as big as she does, especially since they appear to be all natural.

I was being a little facetious in my last post, I seriously doubt if Nala is trolling the Internet all day to see if her name has been mentioned, especially since she's just re-started working this past Monday.

But she does work through an agency escortsxo dot com that features 48 ladies on their website, so I wouldn't be surprised that one of that agency's employees reviews the Internet for comments on their employees. Perhaps someone from the agency noticed my post and told Nala to re-open her Twitter account.

Wyatt, you are also correct in pointing out that escorts alternate between revealing and non-revealing shots. This includes Nala although I have yet to discover a full facial shot of her. Interestingly, someone named Dasha Ivanov also works for escortsxo and has her face blurred out on that web site, but Dasha has a Twitter account that shows her full face all the time and also posts totally revealing crotch and rear photos that look like they could have been taken from one of the video porn web sites.

I can confirm that many escorts in MTL read ISG. Remember some girls can't stomach reading reviews, though. This is understandable, imagine what they would say about us!

I have a story which I will relate soon about why I know that the provider network's knowledge about ISG is bigger than you think.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456322]ISG is not that popular in Montreal. I think some of our local participants like Jalimon and Cloudsurf came over because they heard they were being .[/QUOTE]

By July's end when all the working girls finally come back, I expect price raises from almost every escort out there.

Agency rates will likely be $250 for all with stars at 270 or 280. And there won't be an indy in sight on merb lower than $300 hour.

A lot of john's may find themselves essentially forced out of pay for play, or searching for alternatives. It is going to be an interesting year from a sociological stand point. Hell, I guess it has already.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2456396]I can confirm that many escorts in MTL read ISG. Remember some girls can't stomach reading reviews, though. This is understandable, imagine what they would say about us!

I have a story which I will relate soon about why I know that the provider network's knowledge about ISG is bigger than you think.[/QUOTE]Perhaps that has changed. The ISG Montreal forum was very quiet about two years ago. It started heating up and a few members, Mongerer88 especially, helped get it going. I remember some on the local board were like "what is this ISG I hear about?" That is when we got Jalimon and Cloudsurf to join in.

ISG is great place to pose questions and have open discussions about specific escorts.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456453]Perhaps that has changed. The ISG Montreal forum was very quiet about two years ago. It started heating up and a few members, Mongerer88 especially, helped get it going. I remember some on the local board were like "what is this ISG I hear about?" That is when we got Jalimon and Cloudsurf to join in.

ISG is great place to pose questions and have open discussions about specific escorts.[/QUOTE]And from now on I will only report here. I need to be open and honest I was banned on the local board. Long story but, like I try to do often, I used a sarcastic sentence that users and mods there did not catch. My fault. Life goes on.

So do not hesitate to ask question. After 5 years of regular encounters (3-4 per months) I kind of learned a bit about the Montreal scene.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2456452]By July's end when all the working girls finally come back, I expect price raises from almost every escort out there.

Agency rates will likely be $250 for all with stars at 270 or 280. And there won't be an indy in sight on merb lower than $300 hour.

A lot of john's may find themselves essentially forced out of pay for play, or searching for alternatives. It is going to be an interesting year from a sociological stand point. Hell, I guess it has already.[/QUOTE]Really, why would the prices increase? Practically everyone has been out of work. Would they have spare money to pay more? Plus the few girls who don't raise their prices they will probably get all the customers who don't see it necessary to pay more.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2456543]And from now on I will only report here. I need to be open and honest I was banned on the local board. Long story but, like I try to do often, I used a sarcastic sentence that users and mods there did not catch. My fault. Life goes on.

So do not hesitate to ask question. After 5 years of regular encounters (3-4 per months) I kind of learned a bit about the Montreal scene.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Like you I was banned on the green board also for shilling of all things for someone who had stopped working 2 weeks before, so it seems you cannot say nice things about someone who deserves it.

Mods on that board seem to think they are homicide detectives and it has gone to their head.

I have never been a shill, I can afford to see whoever I want to see luckily.

Doesn't really matter I have my contacts of Indies who I can use as a reference and they even recommend their friends if you are looking for a service that they don't provide.

I don't need to write reviews just as easy to send the SP a thank you email, which I do anyway if you enjoyed your time and if not then you just don't repeat with them.

Anyway it seems the key agencies are back on and have minimal increases for now $20-$30 HR.

Some of the indies have increased by $50-$100 per hour and have set minimum 90 min to 2 HR sessions and for now with only their regulars to start out with.

We will see how that plays out.

GFE is still being offered as before with some additional hygiene requirements and questions about your health and some have put age restrictions not wanting to see guys in a vulnerable age group.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2456556]Really, why would the prices increase? Practically everyone has been out of work. Would they have spare money to pay more? Plus the few girls who don't raise their prices they will probably get all the customers who don't see it necessary to pay more.[/QUOTE]Healthworkers and people in specific industries were indeed displaced, but most of those will have their jobs back eventually. The majority of those who were out of work were poor people. And Sp don't care about them. Granted, I'm sure some people have taken a hit in the stock market or thereabouts, but not enough to be unable to afford mongering. All in all, I imagine they are raising rates for the same reason they always do. Opportunity.

-Johns have been deprived for months.

-Regulars are addicted.

-No girls hate more money.

-The risk of death from covid for 20's is basically non existent. However, I think its been suggested even asymptomatic people will have long term respiratory damage. Increased health risk are thus a concern.

-The world is in chaos. In times of uncertainty, I believe people want stability and safety more than ever. If this means paying a but more to seehave a hassle free GFE, it will be justifiable, albeit not wanted.

Given the above, it seems like there is no better time to jack up prices than right now. Besides, if raised prices fail to garner the amount of wanted business, it's simple enough for the indy to reduce them anew. I suspect many will be forced to implement "specials" at some point, whereas others might bow out entirely. I'm not sure the agencies can as easiky reduce their prices. In any event, I gurantee there will be an overflow of girls in the months to come. It remains to be seen what, if any influence the border being closed, and a chunk of the girls business via tours and travels being gone does.

For you visiting travelers, I think it may well be a superior scene to what it was whe the dust settles. Better service and attitudes all around. And unlike us locals, I doubt the price increase hurts the same. It's a big increase!

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2456884]-The risk of death from covid for 20's is basically non existent. However, I think its been suggested even asymptomatic people will have long term respiratory damage. Increased health risk are thus a concern.[/QUOTE]I always thought any serious cough and / or pneumonia caused respiratory damage. I am skeptical to a degree because the media and some other forces have really sold hard the idea that we are all in danger. So much has been proven wrong.

In any event if you are saying the price increases and the escort scene are in a state of flux, yes absolutely. It will be in a state of flux for awhile. When a solid treatment is determined or a vaccine developed or the virus dies out (seems unlikely), the scene will go through another adjustment.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2456758]Like you I was banned on the green board also for shilling of all things for someone who had stopped working 2 weeks before, so it seems you cannot say nice things about someone who deserves it.

Mods on that board seem to think they are homicide detectives and it has gone to their head.[/QUOTE]They are very goofy blokes. I'm guessing if you met them, they are odd, insular and way to serious about their role. They do not like feedback. If you try to question them about the moderating in a polite way, they will penalize you for that and target you beyond that.

ISG mods are generally cool. No issues here.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2456884]For you visiting travelers, I think it may well be a superior scene to what it was whe the dust settles. Better service and attitudes all around. And unlike us locals, I doubt the price increase hurts the same. It's a big increase![/QUOTE]True! And for US citizen 100 $ US is as of today 134 $ CDN (pretty good discount).

The biggest game changer in the Montreal scene for the past year or so is Twitter. Even for some agency girl many now have a presence on Twitter. The latest agency girl I have seen (back in January / February) the session and booking was made directly via twitter. It's a nice way to prepare the session and get a good real view of the girl (much better then photoshop agency pics.).

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2456543] I need to be open and honest I was banned on the local board. Long story but, like I try to do often, I used a sarcastic sentence that users and mods there did not catch. My fault.
[/QUOTE]No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.

Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2456976]No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2457028]Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.[/QUOTE]I would reckon. They ain't at all happy we out here talkin'. You boys best be careful when you're in their town. They the law over the border and don't you boys forget it.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2456976]No, it's not your fault. The mods there are total goofs. They have no idea how to properly moderate a message board, and think they have to police everything down to the smallest detail. Even inventing reasons. I've never seen anything like it. I exist over there under a different name (TheSavoySuit). I use it mostly as a resource, and a place to get a good laugh from reading posts by some of the semi-retarded Trump super-supporters.[/QUOTE]Haha I did read you often over there.

The thing is I have never really had issues with them before. They did delete quite a lot of my post but who cares. I ran the sp of the year contest for 2 years and they did not interfere at all. It's their board and I do not want to judge them. Just pissed they banned me haha It's too bad for their users as I was providing a lot of info and reviews. As opposed to so many that suck info out of that board without never contributing or sharing their info.

I will find the provider with the fair prices not the highest prices and give her all my money. Everyone is free to set the price, but is usually the competitive prices that win not the higher prices. Unemployment hasn't Been this high since the Great Depression. And the world bank predict a further recession. I'm not sure people are ready to appreciate someone that is hiking up the prices at this moment. I'm really glad I'm not addicted to women. Seriously, I I just go to porn hub in half an hour later I have a big smile across my face.

Yeah and the green forum apparently has a secret Abusive police censoring and deleting everyone's posts. It happened to me too.

It's good to have good rules. Like one thing that kinda sucks is when people say mean thing about the girls. but also allowing people to present their opinions in a polite manner is a valuable resource. As mentioned previously,It's kind of mean to ban a member after he has contributed so much the forum. That is just sad. Isn't there a better way to solve these problems? plus what kind of community Doesn't allow different points of views? The green form definitely has room for improvement.

[QUOTE=HarvestBoi;2457028]Does anybody think the green board mods read this thread? I wouldn't be shocked.[/QUOTE]I hope they do. They could learn a thing or two.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2456933]I always thought any serious cough and / or pneumonia caused respiratory damage. I am skeptical to a degree because the media and some other forces have really sold hard the idea that we are all in danger. So much has been proven wrong.

In any event if you are saying the price increases and the escort scene are in a state of flux, yes absolutely. It will be in a state of flux for awhile. When a solid treatment is determined or a vaccine developed or the virus dies out (seems unlikely), the scene will go through another adjustment.[/QUOTE]I can't really attest to the veracity of any covid infected suffering permanent damage, since there's conflicting data. Likewise, I am skeptical that it's already possible to predict such long consequences. That said, I do believe more than a few escorts in Montreal may believe Covid is a danger to them. The media has done a pretty good job of scaring people.

Girls have risen prices and / or duration minimums because they want to resume in the business, make the same / similar / more as they did pre-covid, (least being less than precovid), but while now reduce their risk. Not yours / ours. Reduce the quantity of us they see, per day of work.

For agencies, there's going to be waves of less client volume (all social events banned all summer, no visitors dumping $ and running, just local customer base) and waves of girls not working periodically as they individually minimize risk dip in and dip out, the agencies rose the girls under who were 240, into that price. These initial weeks of repopening represent pent up demand. Most of those that book will have paid.

I think any realm of price agencies would gave set within the 200-250 range. But the long term, say 2 months from now, I think remains to be seen how busy business will be. Esp if covid does or does not get under control.

Supply of girls versus demand of them, but agencies never lower prices once raised. Prices were raised the last few years already. Perhaps now, they won't raise for the next two-three. Unless the preexisting 240 girls get unhappy and complain that they need to be $260 tier.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2457358]Unless the preexisting 240 girls get unhappy and complain that they need to be $260 tier.[/QUOTE]A few of the pre-covid 240 girls are now 260 already. Like Sienna at Euphoria. 260/ HR, jesus we are approaching Toronto prices in Montreal. And I promise you the prices will not be going down after this covid bullshit is over. For me the agency price raise makes little sense because it's not like they will be seeing less volume of clients like the indys would. The 20 dollar increase offers no added protection to agency girls. And to think, in 2017/2018 a lot of agency girls were 200/ HR, this is a bad trend and there are too many people defending it. The only reason people come to Montreal is due to the absurdly favourable price / quality ratio and no other city in North America even comes close to matching it.

It seems like the US border will remain close until July 21 now.

Even if I am a local that sucks big time. The hobby needs the US client to thrive. Many girl told me over the years they are the best. They pay well and generally less demanding then locals.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2457461]A few of the pre-covid 240 girls are now 260 already. Like Sienna at Euphoria. 260/ HR, jesus we are approaching Toronto prices in Montreal. And I promise you the prices will not be going down after this covid bullshit is over. For me the agency price raise makes little sense because it's not like they will be seeing less volume of clients like the indys would. The 20 dollar increase offers no added protection to agency girls. And to think, in 2017/2018 a lot of agency girls were 200/ HR, this is a bad trend and there are too many people defending it. The only reason people come to Montreal is due to the absurdly favourable price / quality ratio and no other city in North America even comes close to matching it.[/QUOTE]I think Toronto agencies were pushing towards 300 before COVID. The agencies need to be careful not to push away customers especially for some of the less popular girls. Toronto seems to have informal pricing tiers. I'm not sure how that works with the girls who are priced at a lower rate. I'm guessing the agency owners have to be very sensitive and good at dealing with all the personalities. I suspect they will continue to bring new girls on at lower prices and let the girl's demand kind of determine whether price increases can be sustained.

As already mentioned by others, how do the price increases work with less visitors to Montreal. In any event, it's a very fluid situation.

It seems that pricing discussions are no longer allowed on the local board.

Our illustrious leader has issued a warning that any discussions On pricing are nothing more than tiresome bitching and will be removed and the individual banned. They should shut the fuck up pay the price or jerk off.

Pricing has become a taboo item on the local board, the only pricing that is important is how many advertisers pay to advertise there.

It seems that board is becoming like a police state you write a very positive review or make nice comments on a lady it is considered shilling, if you write any kind of negative issue then depending on the lady it is either body shaming or insensitive and the white Knights come out in droves to defend.

Back to pricing.

The popular local agencies have increased their rates by $20-$30, that in my view is still a bargain especially looking at the gorgeous ladies and services they provide.

Will it last, probably although once the initial wave of pent up horny locals subsides if the borders are not opened there will be a significant decline in hobbyists as many are still scared or have suffered financial losses and may even be unemployed.

The Indies are a whole different story.

Many have increased their rates by $50-$100 and are requiring minimum sessions of 90 minutes to 2 hrs with one even 3 hrs.

That is a significant jump for those who normally book 1 hour sessions.

Will it last, we will see, they are testing the waters.

Personally I will continue to see the indys that I know as they have been very kind to me and I enjoy being with them. I usually book 90 minute sessions anyway.

I will not however see any new indies that have increased their pricing significantly.

If I feel the urge for someone new for the first time I will look towards the 3 popular agencies.

Put it into perspective. You tell me which prices are correct. If you are lucky enough to earn 50,000 cad in Montreal after taxes and working weekends you will probably make between 100 and $150 per day. All that I'm after University, speciality training, and years experience.

So how much are providers asking for 1 - 3 hours? These issues can be solved when clients and providers have good negotiating skills. Just think and talk about it.


Concerning the advice given to forum posters by the not too secretive abusive moderators of the green forum...

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2457499]
They should shut the fuck up pay the price or jerk off.
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I will jerk off, thank you. I don't suffer from tennis elbow, golf elbow, or repetitive strain elbow injury, so I can jerk off all I want. Greed and pride are the downfall of the hero. :) d4 damager Power to the forum posters. Peaceful Uprising against the greenking in the vicinity.

Something like this happened a year ago in Berlin. And the king over there steped down and had everyone respect the standard rates. Unfortunately this raise the prices culture is making everyone fall ill. Most noticeably in the real estate industry people want to buy a house for 100,000 paint it. Then sell it for 300,000. Or people expect to buy an apartment and rent it out for $2,000 a month. Entitlement. It may be reality, but this sort of attitudes and expectations are the root cause of the housing crisis. In this case when one benefits excessively, it does a lot of damage to the group as a whole. Could we consider changing our expectations? Is man not strong enough to defeat greed?

[QUOTE=Frank11;2457568]Could we consider changing our expectations? Is man not strong enough to defeat greed?[/QUOTE]Perhaps man is, but his dick isn't.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2457462]It seems like the US border will remain close until July 21 now.

Even if I am a local that sucks big time. The hobby needs the US client to thrive. Many girl told me over the years they are the best. They pay well and generally less demanding then locals.[/QUOTE]I agree its the tourism business that is needed. A visitor on vaca, is on spending mindset in most cases, than not. A local is not as much in that mindset. Then there's the currency disparity.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2457499]It seems that pricing discussions are no longer allowed on the local board.

Our illustrious leader has issued a warning that any discussions On pricing are nothing more than tiresome bitching and will be removed and the individual banned. They should shut the fuck up pay the price or jerk off.

Pricing has become a taboo item on the local board, the only pricing that is important is how many advertisers pay to advertise there.

It seems that board is becoming like a police state you write a very positive review or make nice comments on a lady it is considered shilling, if you write any kind of negative issue then depending on the lady it is either body shaming or insensitive and the white Knights come out in droves to defend.

[/QUOTE]Yes, I found it absurd, the reasons offered as you summarized for justification? You let the board members decide if it's tiresome. If it was the thread would die. But no, it was current. And active current events for the board for the scene. There are other, real reasons. Not what was suggested, please. One thing I really don't like is smoke screens.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2457461]A few of the pre-covid 240 girls are now 260 already. Like Sienna at Euphoria. 260/ HR, jesus we are approaching Toronto prices in Montreal. And I promise you the prices will not be going down after this covid bullshit is over. For me the agency price raise makes little sense because it's not like they will be seeing less volume of clients like the indys would. The 20 dollar increase offers no added protection to agency girls. And to think, in 2017/2018 a lot of agency girls were 200/ HR, this is a bad trend and there are too many people defending it. The only reason people come to Montreal is due to the absurdly favourable price / quality ratio and no other city in North America even comes close to matching it.[/QUOTE]I see. I did not notice that. The only 260 agency girl in recent memory was casey back in vog back a few seasons now. It was xo who last year wanted to reposition itself as the top tier agency as if it had to, by setting itself at the 230 price point, now not a year from that euphoria moves ahead of that LOL.

They going to push it to see if it works. The only way to tell them no, is don't accept those prices.

I didn't see anything specially better about the outcall location of XO when they explained why the cost increase (to attract best talent they need to pay them more, get wifi on the outcall, prettier apt or whatever).

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2457604]I see. I did not notice that. The only 260 agency girl in recent memory was casey back in vog back a few seasons now. It was xo who last year wanted to reposition itself as the top tier agency as if it had to, by setting itself at the 230 price point, now not a year from that euphoria moves ahead of that LOL.

They going to push it to see if it works. The only way to tell them no, is don't accept those prices.

I didn't see anything specially better about the outcall location of XO when they explained why the cost increase (to attract best talent they need to pay them more, get wifi on the outcall, prettier apt or whatever).[/QUOTE]The pricing is getting ridiculous and people are just standing by and watching it happen. Of course a 20 dollar increase isn't the end of the world, but there was already a price increase last year, and now there is another 20 dollar increase. I'm just saying it's a slippery slope. And then the people that are voicing their concerns are being suppressed and silenced. First of all, why are the mods getting involved in a thread where there was a civil discussion being had about pricing? And who are they to deem it boring and tedious? The topic of pricing obviously wasn't boring because ever since they locked down that very active thread, the lounge section has been a ghost town. Besides, isn't that what the lounge section is for? For discussing basically anything that people want to discuss.

The way I'm responding to this is by being much more picky. I don't feel like taking any chances now with new SP's that aren't reviewed positively and by people I trust. I'm just going to stick to back channel info from now on so I don't end up getting burned by a sorry excuse for an SP with now premium rates. I'm praying for the next one of you fuckers that books a shitty SP for 240 or 250/ HR.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2457642]The pricing is getting ridiculous and people are just standing by and watching it happen. Of course a 20 dollar increase isn't the end of the world, but there was already a price increase last year, and now there is another 20 dollar increase. I'm just saying it's a slippery slope. And then the people that are voicing their concerns are being suppressed and silenced. First of all, why are the mods getting involved in a thread where there was a civil discussion being had about pricing? And who are they to deem it boring and tedious? The topic of pricing obviously wasn't boring because ever since they locked down that very active thread, the lounge section has been a ghost town. Besides, isn't that what the lounge section is for? For discussing basically anything that people want to discuss.

The way I'm responding to this is by being much more picky. I don't feel like taking any chances now with new SP's that aren't reviewed positively and by people I trust. I'm just going to stick to back channel info from now on so I don't end up getting burned by a sorry excuse for an SP with now premium rates. I'm praying for the next one of you fuckers that books a shitty SP for 240 or 250/ HR.[/QUOTE]We live under the capitalist system. Prices will go as high as people are willing to pay. If there are people willing to pay more prices will go even higher.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2457602]Yes, I found it absurd, the reasons offered as you summarized for justification? You let the board members decide if it's tiresome. If it was the thread would die. But no, it was current. And active current events for the board for the scene. There are other, real reasons. Not what was suggested, please. One thing I really don't like is smoke screens.[/QUOTE]Well I think one long time poster remarked that it isn't really an Escort review board anymore, but rather an Escort ad board. Any comments that are negative to an agency, even if politely presented, can be removed. Also the fact that there exists a secret black and gray list area that list members who are banned from certain agencies without their knowledge is not fair. Someone placed on that list should be able to defend themselves.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2457735]We live under the capitalist system. Prices will go as high as people are willing to pay. If there are people willing to pay more prices will go even higher.[/QUOTE]Of course, I completely understand this. The problem is that too many guys still think that the increased prices are a bargain and I beg to differ. My issue is that if agencies want to increase prices, they also need to make measurable improvements in their service. As it is right now, there are several escorts that are mediocre at best that are at the 240/ HR rate which is ridiculous. If you are going to increase prices, at least make sure that the vast majority of the girls that work for you meet a high standard of looks and service and that simply isn't the case anymore in Montreal agencies. There are major discrepancies between the various girls at agencies in terms of their looks and service, but these discrepancies aren't reflected in the price because you can have an absolute star who commands the same rates as a girl I wouldn't even fuck for free. I've met complete duds and their prices were the same as star caliber SPs. In capitalism price and quality tend to scale together, in the SP world this is not the case. But hey, if guys want to pay more for less, by all means.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2457756]Of course, I completely understand this. The problem is that too many guys still think that the increased prices are a bargain and I beg to differ. My issue is that if agencies want to increase prices, they also need to make measurable improvements in their service. As it is right now, there are several escorts that are mediocre at best that are at the 240/ HR rate which is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]That statement is true. You need to chose wisely as they are still some great one working.

The problem discussing prices is because we have a memory. 2-3 years ago I could get 100-120 half session including CIM with stunningly beautiful indies. Now there is only a few of these girl left and they ask 180-200 for half hour. I had it so good!

Hi guys,

Hope everyone is staying healthy in all this bullshit. Here's a little diversion from the $$increase talk. Has anyone given this special arrangement stuff a go in MTL? It seems like a lot of work? But I hear once you put the time and effort in the rewards can be endless. How practical is it for guys who come in and out of town for a few days? Anyone have experience, please share it would be cool to hear.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2457756]........... I've met complete duds and their prices were the same as star caliber SPs. In capitalism price and quality tend to scale together, in the SP world this is not the case. But hey, if guys want to pay more for less, by all means.[/QUOTE]I can obviously speak only for myself. If I pay $x for a star and on another occasion pay $x for a flop then there is no way I will repeat with the flop. The caliber SP will always get my money. This is the reason why stars are always so much harder to book than lemons, they are busier. The quality provider wins in the end because she rakes in more money than the dud. Capitalism in action.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2457934]I can obviously speak only for myself. If I pay $x for a star and on another occasion pay $x for a flop then there is no way I will repeat with the flop. The caliber SP will always get my money. This is the reason why stars are always so much harder to book than lemons, they are busier. The quality provider wins in the end because she rakes in more money than the dud. Capitalism in action.[/QUOTE]Agreed, and this is why reviewing is so important. There was one particular SP I saw last year that had been working for months and months and was on the schedule regularly. I made the mistake of booking her and I honestly would have rather flushed 220 down the toilet than to give it to her. That is how terrible she was, and yet, she was able to work for months and rake in money from countless first time clients and these clients were too afraid to post a bad review, so her cycle continued. She eventually got fired and word got out that a lot of board members had seen her and wanted to warn others, but they didn't want to leave a bad review publicly. The star SP wins in the long game of course, but these lemon SPs are out there more than ever. Veteran mongers will tell you than 10-15 years ago, the quality in Montreal was higher and more consistent. You could get gold at essentially bargain bin prices, now the rates are higher than ever regardless of quality.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2457996]Agreed, and this is why reviewing is so important. [/QUOTE]Yes review are important. But I would say the most important is networking. Especially if you do not mind girl that do not fit the usual young spinner type that are so popular. But in my opinion will lead you often to deception.

With friends networking (here or on the green board) you can truly find some unknown gem. Some older, some still young. Different body type. But girl that truly enjoy what they do. That enjoy having sex!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2457934]I can obviously speak only for myself. If I pay $x for a star and on another occasion pay $x for a flop then there is no way I will repeat with the flop. The caliber SP will always get my money. This is the reason why stars are always so much harder to book than lemons, they are busier. The quality provider wins in the end because she rakes in more money than the dud. Capitalism in action.[/QUOTE]This is why 90% of the time I see my ATF, I have been seeing her for 2 years and she never disappoints.

I stick to a few indys that I know and have always been top notch.

It may be somewhat more pricey but at least I am guaranteed a fabulous experience each time.

The only agency girl that has interested me so far is Heaven, maybe one of these days.

I don't like dealing with bookers and middlemen and like the individual attention some of the Indys provide.

When seeing a totally new Indy I do my research and if I still get it wrong well I have spent a lot more on much worse things than seeing a gorgeous woman who may not be what I was expecting and hoping for, not the end of the world and won't put me in a different tax bracket and obviously I will not repeat.

Perhaps I am too nonchalant about this but unless it is an obvious bait and switch or I am in some kind of danger I would just put it down to a learning experience and move on, life is too short as we have seen lately to worry about one mediocre experience.

So far I can't say I have ever had a bad experience with the fabulous women of Montreal.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2458228]Yes review are important. But I would say the most important is networking. Especially if you do not mind girl that do not fit the usual young spinner type that are so popular. But in my opinion will lead you often to deception.

With friends networking (here or on the green board) you can truly find some unknown gem. Some older, some still young. Different body type. But girl that truly enjoy what they do. That enjoy having sex![/QUOTE]YES! Networking behind the scenes of public reviews is undoubtedly the best source of quality information. A lot of the time when I make booking decisions, it's based on info I received from friends and other hobbyists I really trust. There are a lot of guys that don't write public reviews, both on here and the green board, but they see lots of SPs and have a lot of knowledge and information to share. I think it's also very important to consider the age of the client who you are talking to because age can have an effect on service. I wish reviews would list the general age range of the reviewer, that would be helpful. If I'm being honest, the times that I get burned by a bad experience is when I take a risk and book an SP with a unknown reputation. Having said that, if any of you want to share PM's, I'm always open to that. Quid pro quo.

Also, for those wondering about the service level post-covid and lockdown. Me and others I know have all seen several SPs recently and the level of service across the board is the same as it was before the quarantine. Not all the girls are back working, but the girls that were providing great service before COVID, are still providing great service now, nothing has changed in that respect.

What do you recommend for those guys who want not only great sex but also, to socialize a little, through longer bookings, that means having some laughs, and make an emotional connection. Not serious socializing, just a basic artificial friendship.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2458401]I think it's also very important to consider the age of the client who you are talking to because age can have an effect on service. I wish reviews would list the general age range of the reviewer, that would be helpful. [/QUOTE]Age? How so?

[QUOTE=Frank11;2458450]Age? How so?[/QUOTE]I so much agree with dontmindme on this. Age of the reviewer is very important. As well as years of hobbying.

Whatever age you are you will not be the same and accept same level of service if you are a newbie versus 10 years into this. So you will not read a review the same either.

Same for your age. In my early 40 I was a 2 sog full sex.

Hi all,

Just want to introduce myself as I want to join the gang here. Been spending the past few days reading this thread as I am / used to be a frequent visitor of Montreal. Interesting points were read, and I seeing familiar handles (I am used to the green board). You've convinced me to post reports here moving forward. Became aware of this from NatureBoy who's been quite helpful to me in the past. I also want to give shoutout to Mongerer88 who helped me with my Lisbon adventures years ago. Looking forward to start hobbying again. Without further ado, I'll give one contribution for now for good will.

Cora Winters. Indy.

I saw her before the pandemic and never got to post a review. She's is really awesome. She's a very good looking girl facially (got that exotic European Asian mix look). She's super fit as she is into fitness and does some competition. Attitude wise she is very easy going, very modest and humble. I would classify her as GFE plus. Not sure how much I can say here so I'll end with the usual "email me or PM me if you are seeking specifics". Doesn't seem like she's operating at this very moment, probably due to the pandemic, but I would highly recommend her for those who are into tall, fit-bodied girls. I found her through the green board last time. She's definitely on the pricey side compared to agency girls but I think she's worth meeting once. I would compare her service level to Laura from Euphoria for those who have met her before, but Cora is taller, more fit, and I find her less timid as first meeting goes.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2458513]Cora Winters. Indy.

I saw her before the pandemic and never got to post a review. She's is really awesome. She's a very good looking girl facially (got that exotic European Asian mix look). She's super fit as she is into fitness and does some competition. Attitude wise she is very easy going, very modest and humble. I would classify her as GFE plus. Not sure how much I can say here so I'll end with the usual "email me or PM me if you are seeking specifics". Doesn't seem like she's operating at this very moment, probably due to the pandemic, but I would highly recommend her for those who are into tall, fit-bodied girls. I found her through the green board last time. She's definitely on the pricey side compared to agency girls but I think she's worth meeting once. I would compare her service level to Laura from Euphoria for those who have met her before, but Cora is taller, more fit, and I find her less timid as first meeting goes.[/QUOTE]She doesn't seem to have much of a footprint on the internet.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2458452]I so much agree with dontmindme on this. Age of the reviewer is very important. As well as years of hobbying.

Whatever age you are you will not be the same and accept same level of service if you are a newbie versus 10 years into this. So you will not read a review the same either.

Same for your age. In my early 40 I was a 2 sog full sex.[/QUOTE]I think I disagreed with you before on this, but I do get where your coming from. Knowing how experienced a client is can certainly be beneficial, however, in the climate that is MTL I'm afraid that many of the experienced gents seem to post pretty much the same gist of review content with just the name of the provider being changed. Some even have the providers proofread them beforehand. Some have relationships with agencies and are known to get 1st dibs on newbie providers in exchange for a favorable review, so again, in the climate of what is MTL, I would take years of hobbying in MTL with a grain of salt.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2458678]She doesn't seem to have much of a footprint on the internet.[/QUOTE]She seems pretty low key yeah. I didn't ask her anything about her internet presence. Hopefully she comes back maybe later this year.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2458754]I think I disagreed with you before on this, but I do get where your coming from. Knowing how experienced a client is can certainly be beneficial, however, in the climate that is MTL I'm afraid that many of the experienced gents seem to post pretty much the same gist of review content with just the name of the provider being changed. Some even have the providers proofread them beforehand. Some have relationships with agencies and are known to get 1st dibs on newbie providers in exchange for a favorable review, so again, in the climate of what is MTL, I would take years of hobbying in MTL with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]Is it really all that advantageous to be able to be the first one in line to meet a new rookie? My experience with rookies have been very underwhelming to the point that these days I have very little interest. Occasionally I would indulge but it would take a lot to get to that point (mood, situation, finance have to align).

Interestingly enough, on my last visit, I mainly chatted with the booker of the agencies to get their takes. Some of them are quite honest with me with regards to expectations. I guess this is potentially because they know I was a decent customer in the past. I will say that the bookers are generally a lot better with this when compared to Toronto bookers, truly day and night. Anyway, my point is, it wouldn't hurt to try to solicit their input as well.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2458754] I'm afraid that many of the experienced gents seem to post pretty much the same gist of review content with just the name of the provider being changed. Some even have the providers proofread them beforehand. Some have relationships with agencies and are known to get 1st dibs on newbie providers in exchange for a favorable review, so again, in the climate of what is MTL, I would take years of hobbying in MTL with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]I agree with Chubzy on this. There are some experienced reviewers who begin the review with "My good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency called me and told me that he had a new girl who just can't be missed and boy was he right. " I doubt that this reviewer would ever write anything negative about his "good friend' Mr. A's agency. Just last year there was a long time reviewer who wrote a typical over the top review of a new girl at his "friend's" agency. The review was quickly disputed by three other reviewers and the review disappeared.

I would also agree with PCode80 assessment of new girls. There are some experienced reviewers who love to boast that they were a new girl's first client. Does it really matter? A few years ago there was an exchange on the review board like this:

Reviewer 1: "I am happy to report that I was New Girl's first client on her very first day. ".

Reviewer 2: "No you weren't. I actually saw her the day before her official first day".

Reviewer 3: "You're both wrong. I actually saw her the week before when my good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency asked me to do a trial run and provide feedback. ".

Bottom Line: Some experienced reviewers can be trusted and some can't.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2459506]Is it really all that advantageous to be able to be the first one in line to meet a new rookie? My experience with rookies have been very underwhelming to the point that these days I have very little interest. Occasionally I would indulge but it would take a lot to get to that point (mood, situation, finance have to align).

Interestingly enough, on my last visit, I mainly chatted with the booker of the agencies to get their takes. Some of them are quite honest with me with regards to expectations. I guess this is potentially because they know I was a decent customer in the past. I will say that the bookers are generally a lot better with this when compared to Toronto bookers, truly day and night. Anyway, my point is, it wouldn't hurt to try to solicit their input as well.[/QUOTE]Hey, wasn't there a reliable and honest poster on the local board named pseudocode? If that is you mon amis, please stay here and share. I remember you were once burned seeing an unreliable escort where the local board basically wiped clean her checkered history before your interest. We have conversed via PM and your perspective was very helpful.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2459506]Is it really all that advantageous to be able to be the first one in line to meet a new rookie? My experience with rookies have been very underwhelming to the point that these days I have very little interest. Occasionally I would indulge but it would take a lot to get to that point (mood, situation, finance have to align).

Interestingly enough, on my last visit, I mainly chatted with the booker of the agencies to get their takes. Some of them are quite honest with me with regards to expectations. I guess this is potentially because they know I was a decent customer in the past. I will say that the bookers are generally a lot better with this when compared to Toronto bookers, truly day and night. Anyway, my point is, it wouldn't hurt to try to solicit their input as well.[/QUOTE]It depends really about seeing newbies. Are they really newbies? Do they have experience coming from massage establishments? Are they already on SA? Two separate bookers recommended newbies to me, but they were already on SA for well over years and were rockstars when I saw them. Yea they were newbies as SP's but still very well experienced at making you happy. That's where pcode comes in when he says you got to talk to bookers, 100% correct.

Is it known if any of the agencies are getting their inventory periodically tested going forward? Not for sti, but covid I mean.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2459778]Is it known if any of the agencies are getting their inventory periodically tested going forward? Not for sti, but covid I mean.[/QUOTE]I really don't see why this would make a difference, you can be tested and negative one day and get infected the very next.

If it was antibody testing meaning that you have had it and are now no longer infectious that would be a different story.

Even with that there is not enough data to know how long you will be immune to the virus after having successfully lived through it once.

The only thing it could possibly weed out are people that are infectious at the particular day of the test it's no guarantee someone testing negative may not get infected the very next day.

You want to be 100% safe of not getting the virus from an SP stay home LOL.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2459778]Is it known if any of the agencies are getting their inventory periodically tested going forward? Not for sti, but covid I mean.[/QUOTE]The girls are not their employee. And surely not their inventory It's up to the girl to get tested for sti. Same for COVID.

Seems like a good option, anybody seen her? Thanks.

[QUOTE=PGTour;2459833]Seems like a good option, anybody seen her? Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you like that style of girl go see Heaven. Better looking and an absolute sure thing on service. But I disclose having never heard of that Alycia. Hopefully others will help.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2459628]Hey, wasn't there a reliable and honest poster on the local board named pseudocode? If that is you mon amis, please stay here and share. I remember you were once burned seeing an unreliable escort where the local board basically wiped clean her checkered history before your interest. We have conversed via PM and your perspective was very helpful.[/QUOTE]I don't now about reliable, but yes that's my handle in the green board.

Yeah I used this board a while back only for my visit to Portugal and didn't realize people are active here for Montreal.

I have to apologize, I am not sure I figured out who you are yet. I mainly have been conversing with a user whose handle is Nature Boy. I may have chatted with you a bit in the past but I can't recall what it was about. Frankly, I didn't even know I got burned haha. I do notice one or two of my reviews in the past have disappeared but I guess I wasn't a frequent visitor enough to see what kind of conversation have transpired before they were taken down. I don't usually look at the follow-ups on my reviews. But now I am curious, do tell if you recall which girl it was about.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2459632]It depends really about seeing newbies. Are they really newbies? Do they have experience coming from massage establishments? Are they already on SA? Two separate bookers recommended newbies to me, but they were already on SA for well over years and were rockstars when I saw them. Yea they were newbies as SP's but still very well experienced at making you happy. That's where pcode comes in when he says you got to talk to bookers, 100% correct.[/QUOTE]Still, I don't get the appeal. I still think the risk of having an undesirable meeting is higher that way, and on the other hand you can just wait for a few weeks or so while proper intel can ultimately be gathered. I bet the SP is going to perform just as well on her third week than on her first week. I can't think of a situation where an SP will be better on her first week of work than on her forth week of work. I mean, maybe, but I feel the chances of that happening is much lower than the opposite.

I will say that I appreciate these people though, who are willing to take that chance and report, but as you all say, they may be biased without possibly realizing themselves.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2459614]I agree with Chubzy on this. There are some experienced reviewers who begin the review with "My good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency called me and told me that he had a new girl who just can't be missed and boy was he right. " I doubt that this reviewer would ever write anything negative about his "good friend' Mr. A's agency. Just last year there was a long time reviewer who wrote a typical over the top review of a new girl at his "friend's" agency. The review was quickly disputed by three other reviewers and the review disappeared.

I would also agree with PCode80 assessment of new girls. There are some experienced reviewers who love to boast that they were a new girl's first client. Does it really matter? A few years ago there was an exchange on the review board like this:

Reviewer 1: "I am happy to report that I was New Girl's first client on her very first day. ".

Reviewer 2: "No you weren't. I actually saw her the day before her official first day"..[/QUOTE]I hate to say it but this is actually one of the reasons I like to read the greenboard. These ego-oriented exchanges are somewhat funny. Trying to imagine how much fun the SPs are having reading them and just laughing in the background.

Saw her in mid winter. She's a bit more curvy that what I typically prefer (I typically prefer the slim / slender body type). She's an extremely easy going person so I can guarantee that breaking the ice isn't going to be a challenge with her. I had a multi-hour session with her and was confident enough to do so based on her overwhelmingly positive reviews. Plus I was celebrating something. She was dedicated to the session and didn't allow anything to distract her from pleasing and meeting my requests. I was very content. Even tough she's on a higher than average rate, I think she deserves it and I have placed her on my repeat list.

You all may see a few more since I realized I missed a few reviews from recent past in the green board. Might as well put them here.

[QUOTE=Hacsek;2459809]


The only thing it could possibly weed out are people that are infectious at the particular day of the test it's no guarantee someone testing negative may not get infected the very next day.
[/QUOTE]And that, is a 1000% enough, because if one is asymtomatic, it would stop the spread, LOL.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460025]I hate to say it but this is actually one of the reasons I like to read the greenboard. These ego-oriented exchanges are somewhat funny. Trying to imagine how much fun the SPs are having reading them and just laughing in the background.[/QUOTE]You brought to mind for a quick conversation I had while with a girl who went under the radar last year but kept in contact with me four my multi HR needs, when I spoke to her of merb for the first time, she just said very softly. I haaate merrrrb.

I should have asked her for clarity at the time.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460025]I hate to say it but this is actually one of the reasons I like to read the greenboard. These ego-oriented exchanges are somewhat funny. Trying to imagine how much fun the SPs are having reading them and just laughing in the background.[/QUOTE]You made me laugh here Some reviewers do not get it. They are reviewing themselves! I find them funny to read but always roll my eyes to the ceiling at the second or third O they gave to the girl haha.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460021]Still, I don't get the appeal. I still think the risk of having an undesirable meeting is higher that way, and on the other hand you can just wait for a few weeks or so while proper intel can ultimately be gathered. I bet the SP is going to perform just as well on her third week than on her first week. I can't think of a situation where an SP will be better on her first week of work than on her forth week of work. I mean, maybe, but I feel the chances of that happening is much lower than the opposite.

I will say that I appreciate these people though, who are willing to take that chance and report, but as you all say, they may be biased without possibly realizing themselves.[/QUOTE]I can think of easily.

Say she gets some bad clients up front and gets taken advantage of, and she becomes guarded the rest of the way going forward.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2460082]I should have asked her for clarity at the time.[/QUOTE]It's because of YMMV. It has nothing to do with your look, body type, sexual talent, cock size, age. It's all about YMMV.

So they do not like being reviewed. Being tagged with acronyms they do or not do. Because they might very well do something they won't to another dude or the opposite.

Took me a few years to get that. So yes only a few minority like the boards all others will hate it soon enough. But that said the forum boards are vital to work your way around all the baits and switch.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2459614]I agree with Chubzy on this. There are some experienced reviewers who begin the review with "My good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency called me and told me that he had a new girl who just can't be missed and boy was he right. " I doubt that this reviewer would ever write anything negative about his "good friend' Mr. A's agency. Just last year there was a long time reviewer who wrote a typical over the top review of a new girl at his "friend's" agency. The review was quickly disputed by three other reviewers and the review disappeared.

I would also agree with PCode80 assessment of new girls. There are some experienced reviewers who love to boast that they were a new girl's first client. Does it really matter? A few years ago there was an exchange on the review board like this:

Reviewer 1: "I am happy to report that I was New Girl's first client on her very first day. ".

Reviewer 2: "No you weren't. I actually saw her the day before her official first day".

Reviewer 3: "You're both wrong. I actually saw her the week before when my good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency asked me to do a trial run and provide feedback. ".

Bottom Line: Some experienced reviewers can be trusted and some can't.[/QUOTE]Yes there are those kinds of writeups at he green board. Sometimes I guess being a thread starter for a girl, has something to do with it or the over all sense of TOFTH, that's all as well.

But there is a differnce for those which it matters, between a 'new girl' (to the roster of an agency) versus a new girl to an agency, that's also new to the scene, and you're the first client. Those are the ones who the posters brag about.

Earlier this year I had a girl new to the agency and I learned from her she had come from recently stopped working at a completely unadvertised, word of mouth only, establishment. That was the pits. How / why she bothered to work there I did not ask, but she left as well as took her friend w / her. So, though new, she wasnt new to the scene.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2460086]I can think of easily.

Say she gets some bad clients up front and gets taken advantage of, and she becomes guarded the rest of the way going forward.[/QUOTE]I guess but if that happens, frankly, I imagine that's something that is unlikely to happen through those agency reviewers because that's bad for business. That could happen to anyone at anytime.

I'm planning to visit the city in the fall. Hopefully things stabilized by then. Not sure how the scene will look like at that point.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2460087]It's because of YMMV. It has nothing to do with your look, body type, sexual talent, cock size, age. It's all about YMMV.[/QUOTE]So if it YMMV has nothing to do with those things you mentioned. Then what exactly determines "your mileage may vary"?

On a different topic, I think the green forum doesn't allow the girls to reply to the reviews. ONLY UNDER EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES sometimes the girls reply. That just seems unfair. However, some of the girls have really good threads. Like the threads help people believe they're honest workers because there are no troublesome reviews. I think the positive experience threads help the girls get new customers.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460027]Saw her in mid winter. She's a bit more curvy that what I typically prefer (I typically prefer the slim / slender body type). She's an extremely easy going person so I can guarantee that breaking the ice isn't going to be a challenge with her. I had a multi-hour session with her and was confident enough to do so based on her overwhelmingly positive reviews. Plus I was celebrating something. She was dedicated to the session and didn't allow anything to distract her from pleasing and meeting my requests. I was very content. Even tough she's on a higher than average rate, I think she deserves it and I have placed her on my repeat list.

You all may see a few more since I realized I missed a few reviews from recent past in the green board. Might as well put them here.[/QUOTE]Please do. April absolutely killed it with end of the year polling for Indy of the year. Katrina girl came in second. Have you seen Katrina girl pdiddy?

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2460084]You made me laugh here Some reviewers do not get it. They are reviewing themselves! I find them funny to read but always roll my eyes to the ceiling at the second or third O they gave to the girl haha.[/QUOTE]Here's the thing those reviewers don't get. The girls are secretly laughing at them behind their backs. I met a popular agency girl recently and she was telling me why she doesn't like MERB. She said clients that come from MERB are the worst because they come in with false expectations because they read that the girl will do a certain act in a review and then they get upset when she refuses. They also find those long, romanticized reviews to be cringe worthy. If you're reading this and you are a guy that writes long reviews where you gush over the girl the entire time, STOP, you are being made fun of behind your back. The SP that you glorify in your essay long reviews are having a laugh at your expense.

The worst is the guys that think they have a connection with the girl and that he is a favoured client. Dudes, wake up. She is an SP, she doesn't give two fucks about you, she only wants your money. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but don't get attached and think it is something more than a transaction. And please if you are writing a review, write about the girl, not the size of your micro penis and how many O's you gave her, so cringe.

[QUOTE=TNewton;2459614]I agree with Chubzy on this. There are some experienced reviewers who begin the review with "My good friend Mr. A from Big-Time Agency called me and told me that he had a new girl who just can't be missed and boy was he right. " I doubt that this reviewer would ever write anything negative about his "good friend' Mr. A's agency. Just last year there was a long time reviewer who wrote a typical over the top review of a new girl at his "friend's" agency. The review was quickly disputed by three other reviewers and the review disappeared.[/QUOTE]I'm a reviewer on that board. I have written many many many reviews. Maybe around 100+ in just 2018, my first time on that board. Been writing steadily ever since.

I would say 95% of my reviews are generally positive. Like you said, I tend to ignore anyone who has a relationship with the agency because they would never write anything bad. In fact, I've had several terrible experiences that I have maybe 8-9 reviewers that I blacklist and ignore.

I have 4-5 bad reviews in the past year of some very popular SPs. Those 8-9 guys surely enough, immediately jump in and say how wrong I am. Funny enough, there are about many guys on that board that message me privately to tell me they had the same terrible experience, but don't want to get banned for bad reviews or banned from promotions or parties. It is absolutely ridiculous. Guys too afraid of sharing their bad experiences, which is the entire point of review boards. And guys who have nothing better to do than blindly criticize anyone with a bad experience.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2460147]Here's the thing those reviewers don't get. The girls are secretly laughing at them behind their backs. I met a popular agency girl recently and she was telling me why she doesn't like MERB. She said clients that come from MERB are the worst because they come in with false expectations because they read that the girl will do a certain act in a review and then they get upset when she refuses. They also find those long, romanticized reviews to be cringe worthy. If you're reading this and you are a guy that writes long reviews where you gush over the girl the entire time, STOP, you are being made fun of behind your back. The SP that you glorify in your essay long reviews are having a laugh at your expense.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I skip those. You immediately know those are the guys that will never say anything negative, too. They're the same as the guys who boasts about "knowing the owner". It's pathetic.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2460147]The worst is the guys that think they have a connection with the girl and that he is a favoured client. Dudes, wake up. She is an SP, she doesn't give two fucks about you, she only wants your money. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but don't get attached and think it is something more than a transaction. And please if you are writing a review, write about the girl, not the size of your micro penis and how many O's you gave her, so cringe.[/QUOTE]I find that untrue in Montreal. There's a popular SP I was dating-slash-friends with for 2 years and still see once in a while. We actually lived together for about 6 months. I find that the Montreal scene is very very different from most other cities. The SPs are very down to hang out without a business-relationship. I've been to music festivals, dinners, lunch with them, met her friends, traveled, etc. No, I wasn't a sugar daddy, either, the action was unpaid. I also saw 2 others here and there once in a while. Again, I find that Montreal SPs are very very casual and not business-like. It's incredible, I love this city.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2460147]Here's the thing those reviewers don't get. The girls are secretly laughing at them behind their backs. I met a popular agency girl recently and she was telling me why she doesn't like MERB. She said clients that come from MERB are the worst because they come in with false expectations because they read that the girl will do a certain act in a review and then they get upset when she refuses. They also find those long, romanticized reviews to be cringe worthy. If you're reading this and you are a guy that writes long reviews where you gush over the girl the entire time, STOP, you are being made fun of behind your back. The SP that you glorify in your essay long reviews are having a laugh at your expense.

The worst is the guys that think they have a connection with the girl and that he is a favoured client. Dudes, wake up. She is an SP, she doesn't give two fucks about you, she only wants your money. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but don't get attached and think it is something more than a transaction. And please if you are writing a review, write about the girl, not the size of your micro penis and how many O's you gave her, so cringe.[/QUOTE]The reviews are for other guys, and ultimately for ourselves. We want to find ladies we like. If I read several reviews where a lady does everything I want, I like her pictures, and the reviews confirm the accuracy of the pictures, I am more likely to book her. Ultimately, we build a network of reviewers who we trust and have similar interests and use that system to make decisions.

If a lady offers varying services to different customers, eventually that comes to light through reviews. Each of us then has to make a decision as to whether we are likely to be the recipient of good service from her on that particular day.

Many of the ladies do dislike the review system. Laughing at reviewers may indeed be a way that some of them express that dislike. Many of us would prefer that they not even read the reviews. These are fundamental and irreconcilable conflicts in a system where the ladies themselves advertise and participate on the same boards where they are reviewed. Sometimes you encounter ladies who simply say they don't read the reviews, but they are glad the review system exists, and those are usually gems.

You also have to understand that reviews are a necessity in a world where many governments are moving to systems where advertising is censored. Fosta / Sesta in the USA Is of course the best example, but there are others. Canada's adoption of the Nordic Model has reduced the availability of explicit advertising. The Australian province that includes Melbourne bans sexually-explicit acronyms in ads. Germany's lovely (and thank-god often ignored) rule that she must apply a condom for oral sex and she can give you a spanking, but you can't give her one, has certainly limited the ability of ladies to advertise BBBJ and submissive BDSM offerings. And many advertising venues where multiple ladies who advertise in Portugal do not allow either pricing or explicit acronyms in the ads, to avoid the pimping / pandering laws, apparently. So reviews are the only way to get much of that information.

So reviews are the only way to find out that information. For some of us, this is really easy. If a lady is CBJ only, there is the real possibility of erectile dis function and a ruined session, so the reviews are necessary to get the most important information needed for a booking. When a lady says she hates reviews and laughs at them, please explain these concepts to her. And does she really want to take the administrative time to answer the same question over and over again regarding her services and sometimes even pricing. And sometimes there are legal issues at play. In places where commercial sex is illegal, or half-legal, the very discussion of explicit services and prices can be dangerous. Guys hate screening, but unless both parties are very comfortable that neither is law enforcement and / or that law enforcement will never later discover the email or text, it is better that a guy read the information in a review instead of having that written discussion with her about certain details.

And readers of reviews have to understand a very basic concept that amazingly escapes so many guys. Certain activities will always be YMMV. There are times when anal sex is simply unavailable, and so is heavier BDSM submissive play, even from a lady who typically offers and enjoys those activities. Girls don't really enjoy discussing the gory details of life such as having inflammation as a result of diarrhea or not getting spanked too often to avoid bruises. They prefer to just communicate what is available during the sessions themselves as things progress. And just like reviews are ultimately for other guys, we owe a duty to each other to recognize that YMMV is a necessary part of every session, even if the availability of certain service offerings are mentioned in advertisements or reviews. One of the best ladies I saw in Lisbon was named Ana. She had the rare body of a college track star. Long and lean with long blonde hair. You just don't find that type any longer with the fattening of the world. There was a review on the local board where a guy basically insisted that she do anal sex even though she initially declined, because he said it was in her ad. He said that upset her but she complied. Sure enough, she left the business in a week or two. She was a sweet girl, so I feel bad for her, but look how that idiot ruined it for the rest of us. Hope that Karma gets him.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2460122]So if it YMMV has nothing to do with those things you mentioned. Then what exactly determines "your mileage may vary"?

On a different topic, I think the green forum doesn't allow the girls to reply to the reviews. ONLY UNDER EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES sometimes the girls reply. That just seems unfair. However, some of the girls have really good threads. Like the threads help people believe they're honest workers because there are no troublesome reviews. I think the positive experience threads help the girls get new customers.[/QUOTE]Yea, I read that somewhere as well. It does not make sense to me either. The red board allows them to do it but not the green board. I am not sure what the rationale behind that was.

Here is the thing. In my opinion, it is not at all difficult to tell whether a girl is genuine or not. If you have enough street smarts and instincts from just regular life experience, average socializing skills, you an tell who truly enjoys being with you and who don't. I say it that way because I think all the SPs do genuinely want to provide a good service but there are times when the connection or the chemistry isn't there. That's just my take on it.

I do remember now who I think ChubzyM is referring to. It may have been a girl named Dasha. Had glowing reviews when she first started but my meeting with her was disappointing. I actually mitigated my review quite a bit I dare say, but it was actually quite the waste of time and money. I think the issue I had with her is that I didn't feel she even tried to make the most out of it. Interestingly enough she's got very mixed reviews in the red board (she comes to Toronto as an Indy now and then). She definitely responded there to that I believe.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2460147]Here's the thing those reviewers don't get. The girls are secretly laughing at them behind their backs. I met a popular agency girl recently and she was telling me why she doesn't like MERB. She said clients that come from MERB are the worst because they come in with false expectations because they read that the girl will do a certain act in a review and then they get upset when she refuses. They also find those long, romanticized reviews to be cringe worthy. If you're reading this and you are a guy that writes long reviews where you gush over the girl the entire time, STOP, you are being made fun of behind your back. The SP that you glorify in your essay long reviews are having a laugh at your expense.

The worst is the guys that think they have a connection with the girl and that he is a favoured client. Dudes, wake up. She is an SP, she doesn't give two fucks about you, she only wants your money. Have fun, enjoy yourself, but don't get attached and think it is something more than a transaction. And please if you are writing a review, write about the girl, not the size of your micro penis and how many O's you gave her, so cringe.[/QUOTE]Haha I will admit that I may have been in those shoes in in the past (thinking I was a favorite) when I was a bit more naive, I won't lie. Thankfully I grew up eventually and timely. I do feel bad about those people though. I imagine some of them opted to go this route because they are socially timid so I can imagine that it doesn't take much to grab their attention and bring it over the top. I can totally see it. You get caught up in the moment, the SP are young and say what's on their mind unintentionally without realizing the repercussions and the words are interpreted to be more than what they are.

Questions for the veterans. I am starting my browsing and I notice that there are quite a few agency SPs who now advertise (seemingly) independently on other platforms. I am wondering if anyone can provide some input on the rationale behind this. Are they advertising independently on purpose? I have heard some say that often their profile are posted without their permissions.

If it was deliberate, why would anyone take up the indy rate over agency? What do the agencies not offer?

I did double check and some of them offer services in the same city. Thoughts?

If here is already a discussion of this on this forum before, let me know. I tried browsing but I am not sure how to easily search for them right now. Kind of new to this site.

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460307]Questions for the veterans. I am starting my browsing and I notice that there are quite a few agency SPs who now advertise (seemingly) independently on other platforms. I am wondering if anyone can provide some input on the rationale behind this. Are they advertising independently on purpose? I have heard some say that often their profile are posted without their permissions.

If it was deliberate, why would anyone take up the indy rate over agency? What do the agencies not offer?

I did double check and some of them offer services in the same city. Thoughts?

If here is already a discussion of this on this forum before, let me know. I tried browsing but I am not sure how to easily search for them right now. Kind of new to this site.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]From what I understand, sometimes a girl is so popular and in high demand that the agency will turn a blind eye if the girl decides to supplement her income by working independently for a higher rate. Now, I think technically this is prohibited by the agency, that a girl see clients privately outside agency schedules and hours. But sometimes, a girl is too good to pass up and you sort of have to deal with her working outside of agency hours if you want to continue having her on your roster as a draw or attraction. Meanwhile, when other girls are caught doing this, they are fired from the agency.

There was one popular agency girl who I only saw once at the actual agency. But I saw her several more times again, outside of agency hours. Only the first time was through the agency, but all the rest of the bookings I made privately with her. This allowed flexibility that I wouldn't get with the agency. The best part is that she continued to charge me her standard agency rate. But she didn't explicitly advertise as an Indy, it was all hush-hush. And I'm sure this still happens, I know for a fact that it does.

Why would someone take on the indy rate over the agency rate? The only reasons I can think of are related to the booking process. If you contact the girl as an indy, you can talk to her directly and also book whichever time works best for you rather than being stuck with having to work around the arbitrary agency schedules. You can book a time that is convenient for you.

There is no other advantage that I know of, it's not that the agencies don't offer a particular thing, it's just that you have to deal with the schedule of the agency. So if the girl you want to see is only working on a certain day and you are in town only on that day, you will be shit out of luck if she is fully booked. Whereas if she offers indy services, you may be willing to pay the extra for the convenience of booking her at time that works for you.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2460225]The reviews are for other guys, and ultimately for ourselves. We want to find ladies we like. If I read several reviews where a lady does everything I want, I like her pictures, and the reviews confirm the accuracy of the pictures, I am more likely to book her. Ultimately, we build a network of reviewers who we trust and have similar interests and use that system to make decisions.

If a lady offers varying services to different customers, eventually that comes to light through reviews. Each of us then has to make a decision as to whether we are likely to be the recipient of good service from her on that particular day.

Many of the ladies do dislike the review system. Laughing at reviewers may indeed be a way that some of them express that dislike. Many of us would prefer that they not even read the reviews. These are fundamental and irreconcilable conflicts in a system where the ladies themselves advertise and participate on the same boards where they are reviewed. Sometimes you encounter ladies who simply say they don't read the reviews, but they are glad the review system exists, and those are usually gems.

You also have to understand that reviews are a necessity in a world where many governments are moving to systems where advertising is censored. Fosta / Sesta in the USA Is of course the best example, but there are others. Canada's adoption of the Nordic Model has reduced the availability of explicit advertising. The Australian province that includes Melbourne bans sexually-explicit acronyms in ads. Germany's lovely (and thank-god often ignored) rule that she must apply a condom for oral sex and she can give you a spanking, but you can't give her one, has certainly limited the ability of ladies to advertise BBBJ and submissive BDSM offerings. And many advertising venues where multiple ladies who advertise in Portugal do not allow either pricing or explicit acronyms in the ads, to avoid the pimping / pandering laws, apparently. So reviews are the only way to get much of that information.

So reviews are the only way to find out that information. For some of us, this is really easy. If a lady is CBJ only, there is the real possibility of erectile dis function and a ruined session, so the reviews are necessary to get the most important information needed for a booking. When a lady says she hates reviews and laughs at them, please explain these concepts to her. And does she really want to take the administrative time to answer the same question over and over again regarding her services and sometimes even pricing. And sometimes there are legal issues at play. In places where commercial sex is illegal, or half-legal, the very discussion of explicit services and prices can be dangerous. Guys hate screening, but unless both parties are very comfortable that neither is law enforcement and / or that law enforcement will never later discover the email or text, it is better that a guy read the information in a review instead of having that written discussion with her about certain details.

And readers of reviews have to understand a very basic concept that amazingly escapes so many guys. Certain activities will always be YMMV. There are times when anal sex is simply unavailable, and so is heavier BDSM submissive play, even from a lady who typically offers and enjoys those activities. Girls don't really enjoy discussing the gory details of life such as having inflammation as a result of diarrhea or not getting spanked too often to avoid bruises. They prefer to just communicate what is available during the sessions themselves as things progress. And just like reviews are ultimately for other guys, we owe a duty to each other to recognize that YMMV is a necessary part of every session, even if the availability of certain service offerings are mentioned in advertisements or reviews. One of the best ladies I saw in Lisbon was named Ana. She had the rare body of a college track star. Long and lean with long blonde hair. You just don't find that type any longer with the fattening of the world. There was a review on the local board where a guy basically insisted that she do anal sex even though she initially declined, because he said it was in her ad. He said that upset her but she complied. Sure enough, she left the business in a week or two. She was a sweet girl, so I feel bad for her, but look how that idiot ruined it for the rest of us. Hope that Karma gets him.[/QUOTE]I agree with a lot of what you said, we are on the same page. However, you are describing the ideal scenario for reviews. Reviews CAN be helpful sure, and ideally if everybody was honest, they would be even better. But that isn't the case. I've been burned by overly positive reviews a few times, and likewise, I was burned by a lack of a negative review. Sometimes a guy will see the girl, have a terrible session and never mention it on the board for fear of getting banned or retaliation by the white knights. I end up seeing her and having a shitty time, and later I find out that she was known to be awful but nobody dared to write a public review to warn others. Reviews can help you and hurt you, but I'm glad they exist.

The concept of YMMV is lost on some people though, and that is the real downside with reviews. There is always potential to have a better or worse session than the guy before you and this is what clients hate. When you pay just as much as the other guy, you expect to get the same service he got but that isn't the case.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460307]Questions for the veterans. I am starting my browsing and I notice that there are quite a few agency SPs who now advertise (seemingly) independently on other platforms. I am wondering if anyone can provide some input on the rationale behind this. Are they advertising independently on purpose? I have heard some say that often their profile are posted without their permissions.

If it was deliberate, why would anyone take up the indy rate over agency? What do the agencies not offer?

I did double check and some of them offer services in the same city. Thoughts?

If here is already a discussion of this on this forum before, let me know. I tried browsing but I am not sure how to easily search for them right now. Kind of new to this site.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]This is very important discussion. Many girl now have a twitter account. I absolutely love it because you get a better picture of the girl, how she looks and acts. It tells you so much more then agency photoshop pics. You can also message them. I usually start my message by describing a bit about me. Write not to worry I will never bombard them with message. If we agree on expectation of service (I prepare the session I want) we schedule something. Of all girl I have done this the actual session happened at the agency. Most are loyal to the agency in that regards so I would not openly suggest to see her outside the agency. Unless it's a repeat and / or the girl decides only to see you.

Also often many will post their schedule. Which is great as some agency do not publish weekly schedule.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460019]I don't now about reliable, but yes that's my handle in the green board.

Yeah I used this board a while back only for my visit to Portugal and didn't realize people are active here for Montreal.

I have to apologize, I am not sure I figured out who you are yet. I mainly have been conversing with a user whose handle is Nature Boy. I may have chatted with you a bit in the past but I can't recall what it was about. Frankly, I didn't even know I got burned haha. I do notice one or two of my reviews in the past have disappeared but I guess I wasn't a frequent visitor enough to see what kind of conversation have transpired before they were taken down. I don't usually look at the follow-ups on my reviews. But now I am curious, do tell if you recall which girl it was about.[/QUOTE]I think things started heating up here about two or so years ago. Mongerer88 was holding down the fort here. Some of us green board refugees realized we could have unfettered conversations about the Montreal scene. Jalimon and cloudsurf show up from time to time. Chubzy and others are well-known contributors.

I believe the girl was Gaia or Luna or whatever the fuck she was calling herself at the time (or perhaps it was Dasha). Both Gaia and Dasha at one time had their older reviews wiped clean. I think it coincided with them going Indy and becoming advertisers. Gaia was a superstar flake who seemed to waiver between fucking your brains out or just completely flaking on keeping the appointment without warning. Beautiful Dasha seems to be a 50/50 as to whether she is engaged in the session or not. At least with the former, you wouldn't be out any money. Sexually frustrated perhaps, but not out any money.

If memory serves me, you got burned just after the older reviews were removed. Anyways, they both had very hit or miss histories that didn't seem to be rectified with the fresh start on their review thread.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460027]Saw her in mid winter. She's a bit more curvy that what I typically prefer (I typically prefer the slim / slender body type). She's an extremely easy going person so I can guarantee that breaking the ice isn't going to be a challenge with her. I had a multi-hour session with her and was confident enough to do so based on her overwhelmingly positive reviews. Plus I was celebrating something. She was dedicated to the session and didn't allow anything to distract her from pleasing and meeting my requests. I was very content. Even tough she's on a higher than average rate, I think she deserves it and I have placed her on my repeat list.[/QUOTE]Fortunately, I saw April last year at the Vogue agency rate. I was coming into town the next day. She was already becoming an internet phenom and Vogue added her to next day's schedule late afternoon. I jumped on it and said anytime that works. I figured dilly-dallying over time would just make the opportunity slip away. I personally don't have a preference for an afternoon or evening appointment.

I prefer April's physical stature. I like some curves especially when everything is firm. I think if one likes a sexy Barbie doll look head to toe April's your girl. She's very pretty and her natural breasts are very beautiful.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2460564]I think things started heating up here about two or so years ago. Mongerer88 was holding down the fort here. Some of us green board refugees realized we could have unfettered conversations about the Montreal scene. Jalimon and cloudsurf show up from time to time. Chubzy and others are well-known contributors.

I believe the girl was Gaia or Luna or whatever the fuck she was calling herself at the time (or perhaps it was Dasha). Both Gaia and Dasha at one time had their older reviews wiped clean. I think it coincided with them going Indy and becoming advertisers. Gaia was a superstar flake who seemed to waiver between fucking your brains out or just completely flaking on keeping the appointment without warning. Beautiful Dasha seems to be a 50/50 as to whether she is engaged in the session or not. At least with the former, you wouldn't be out any money. Sexually frustrated perhaps, but not out any money.

If memory serves me, you got burned just after the older reviews were removed. Anyways, they both had very hit or miss histories that didn't seem to be rectified with the fresh start on their review thread.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, Gaia / Luna. I made an attempt to see her twice and both times she flaked on me even though she sounded committed during the planning discussion. Actually, what really made me completely ignore her was her last response on to me. I don't have it anymore but her final text to me in response to my saying "I am disappointed and that was unprofessional" was uncharacteristically rude and self-absorbed. I didn't respond and never tried again. I didn't leave any mention of that on the board though. I think she recently set up an OF page and I vaguely recall she also fired back on some negative comments.

Agree about your take on the circumstances. While the flake caused disappointments, I prefer that over a terrible session.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2460567]Fortunately, I saw April last year at the Vogue agency rate. I was coming into town the next day. She was already becoming an internet phenom and Vogue added her to next day's schedule late afternoon. I jumped on it and said anytime that works. I figured dilly-dallying over time would just make the opportunity slip away. I personally don't have a preference for an afternoon or evening appointment.

I prefer April's physical stature. I like some curves especially when everything is firm. I think if one likes a sexy Barbie doll look head to toe April's your girl. She's very pretty and her natural breasts are very beautiful.[/QUOTE]Yeah she's still on my list haha. I really like her demeanor and she was very good. Have you seen Emma from XO? I personally didn't think she's all that but I make a mention of this because she's got similar body type as Paril, just as pretty and apparently a lot of folks have voiced very positive reviews.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2460345]From what I understand, sometimes a girl is so popular and in high demand that the agency will turn a blind eye if the girl decides to supplement her income by working independently for a higher rate. Now, I think technically this is prohibited by the agency, that a girl see clients privately outside agency schedules and hours. But sometimes, a girl is too good to pass up and you sort of have to deal with her working outside of agency hours if you want to continue having her on your roster as a draw or attraction. Meanwhile, when other girls are caught doing this, they are fired from the agency.

There was one popular agency girl who I only saw once at the actual agency. But I saw her several more times again, outside of agency hours. Only the first time was through the agency, but all the rest of the bookings I made privately with her. This allowed flexibility that I wouldn't get with the agency. The best part is that she continued to charge me her standard agency rate. But she didn't explicitly advertise as an Indy, it was all hush-hush. And I'm sure this still happens, I know for a fact that it does.

Why would someone take on the indy rate over the agency rate? The only reasons I can think of are related to the booking process. If you contact the girl as an indy, you can talk to her directly and also book whichever time works best for you rather than being stuck with having to work around the arbitrary agency schedules. You can book a time that is convenient for you.

There is no other advantage that I know of, it's not that the agencies don't offer a particular thing, it's just that you have to deal with the schedule of the agency. So if the girl you want to see is only working on a certain day and you are in town only on that day, you will be shit out of luck if she is fully booked. Whereas if she offers indy services, you may be willing to pay the extra for the convenience of booking her at time that works for you.[/QUOTE]I see. This is an interesting take. Thank you.

Now that I think about it some more, I think if I were an agency, I wouldn't be opposed to letting them setup their own indy page. The caveat would be that their Indy rate has to be higher than the agency rate. The clients who want a lower rate can some to the agency, the ones who want to meet outside of agency policies and operation hours can work direct. Makes sense actually. Everyone is happy.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2460348]I agree with a lot of what you said, we are on the same page. However, you are describing the ideal scenario for reviews. Reviews CAN be helpful sure, and ideally if everybody was honest, they would be even better. But that isn't the case. I've been burned by overly positive reviews a few times, and likewise, I was burned by a lack of a negative review. Sometimes a guy will see the girl, have a terrible session and never mention it on the board for fear of getting banned or retaliation by the white knights. I end up seeing her and having a shitty time, and later I find out that she was known to be awful but nobody dared to write a public review to warn others. Reviews can help you and hurt you, but I'm glad they exist.[/QUOTE]While the reviews are mainly for us guys and most of the women don't care for them, they can sometimes be very useful to new girls committed to an escort career. I can think of one remarkable turnaround by one Toronto SP. She was a rookie in 2019 I believe. She had about five-six weeks of mediocre reviews. Everyone noted she was a tall, blonde stunner, but several reviewers mentioned cold and distant.

All of a sudden, there was a major course correction and now she is one of the top agency escorts. Would that have happened without the reviews? Would it have happened so quickly? I'm guessing based on her photos she was booked steadily for a month and then the bookings started to tail off. The agency probably was able to use the reviews to constructively advise her. Of course, some hot escorts just offer mediocre service their entire careers.

Can anyone guess this escort's name?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2460564]I think things started heating up here about two or so years ago. Mongerer88 was holding down the fort here. Some of us green board refugees realized we could have unfettered conversations about the Montreal scene. Jalimon and cloudsurf show up from time to time. Chubzy and others are well-known contributors.

I believe the girl was Gaia or Luna or whatever the fuck she was calling herself at the time (or perhaps it was Dasha). Both Gaia and Dasha at one time had their older reviews wiped clean. I think it coincided with them going Indy and becoming advertisers. Gaia was a superstar flake [/QUOTE]Yeah, gaia was pretty much it, more recently, luna. / massage spa. Greek genes I believe.

My one time experience w / her was when, some time after she had went imdy for a decent stretch, for some reason she, for like maybe a month, hopped back for agency work. I booked her thruogh said agency, and I arrived to the loc, nice and early. And it was frigid. And I wait, waited, to prob 15 min past my appt time lets say, where I texted the agenvy. They reply then, that she hasnt even arrived (to the apt) and revealed, she hasnt even communicated w / them. So, I felt like a sitting duck standing at the door of the condo. Perhaps 45 min in, of waiting, I said screw this. Gave up cut my losses in time, as in it took me 20-30 min to get there, and required the same to leave. I initailly didn't want to give up. Plus I did not have a plan be girl that day.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2460345]From what I understand, sometimes a girl is so popular and in high demand that the agency will turn a blind eye if the girl decides to supplement her income by working independently for a higher rate. Now, I think technically this is prohibited by the agency, that a girl see clients privately outside agency schedules and hours. But sometimes, a girl is too good to pass up and you sort of have to deal with her working outside of agency hours if you want to continue having her on your roster as a draw or attraction. Meanwhile, when other girls are caught doing this, they are fired from the agency.[/QUOTE]To me this appears to be the case, in mtl, only the past 12-18 months. Where agency girls are now flexxing in a may I say, agency driven market. More mtl agency girls hopped onto social media and even the older / popular agency ones who had been around but wasnt active (heaven) have have come aboard. And its like how the nba is a players league. Stud players can get a coach fired these days or get other kinds of turn the blind eye things they were less likely to get in a diff era.

About 4 yrs ago in tor, to which is to me and perhaps others, was / is a more indy driven market, there was a indy girl who flew out to another city to do personal things on personal time, as well as on her social media, advertised a tour while at that city. She told me her agency suddenly owner gave her a call, basically telling her she can't do that. I forgot if an ultimatum was dropped, but she decided to leave the agency shortly after this.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2460539]This is very important discussion.

Also often many will post their schedule. Which is great as some agency do not publish weekly schedule.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering how that works exactly. Say provider A days she's working sat and Sunday 6-11 at agency A. You text agency A when you see this on twitter on Tuesday saying "Hi, I want to book provider A on Sat from 6-7:30 please" only to be told "please reach out to us on Friday night by agency A. You reach out only to find out she's booked solid? Would imagine you would need to be well known by agency or the provider to get the favored time slot.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460579]Yeah she's still on my list haha. I really like her demeanor and she was very good. Have you seen Emma from XO? I personally didn't think she's all that but I make a mention of this because she's got similar body type as Paril, just as pretty and apparently a lot of folks have voiced very positive reviews.[/QUOTE]I saw Emma and very true she has similar great figures. She's cool and sexy. But her friend Elly also from XO is much more sexually driven, will do CIM (with pleasure) and has similar body type as well.

Cheers,

There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.

When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety.

So if you deal directly with the girl and she charges you more than agency rate with no reason to justify this, then you just simply don't know how to negotiate prices. Or she is just taking advantage that you are nave. SORRY to have to say this, but there is no reason to pay higher independent rates. And also if someone charges 300 for one hour that doesn't mean that 3 hours are worth 900. Anyone who knows how to set prices knows that is ridiculous. Just think about it. Obviously longer bookings are negotiated as the amount of hours increase the rate per hour decreases. There are only very few opportunities in the world where anyone make $1500 for 5 hours, RARELY. Only if you can score 30 points over 5 guys who are 3 meters tall and weigh 120kilos. Once again if you don't understand this you need some experience negotiating price.

Also, the green form prohibits anyone from discussing pricing. That is obviously a power-play to give the price setters all the power. Customers also have a right to know and discuss the prices. If the customers are in complete ignorance about pricing than the service providers have an opportunity to unjustly take advantage of the customers.

Also, an agency cannot legally stop a girl from working on her own. Unless they sign a contract that says she cannot receive clients outside of the agency. Obviously no woman would ever sign such contract. However, since the agency presents the girl with opportunities and clients than the girl should have enough business acumen and manners and smart to work at least one or 2 days a week in the agency. The rest of the days the girls can advance her own career however she wishes to do so.Plus not all clients are interested in seeing the escort outside of the agency. Sure, the girls are fully booked but only in rush hours. I think a lot of people overestimate how busy the girls are.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2460666]There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.

When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety.

So if you deal directly with the girl and she charges you more than agency rate with no reason to justify this, then you just simply don't know how to negotiate prices. Or she is just taking advantage that you are nave. SORRY to have to say this, but there is no reason to pay higher independent rates. And also if someone charges 300 for one hour that doesn't mean that 3 hours are worth 900. Anyone who knows how to set prices knows that is ridiculous. Just think about it. Obviously longer bookings are negotiated as the amount of hours increase the rate per hour decreases. There are only very few opportunities in the world where anyone make $1500 for 5 hours, RARELY. Only if you can score 30 points over 5 guys who are 3 meters tall and weigh 120kilos. Once again if you don't understand this you need some experience negotiating price.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you would think bro. Again and again.

In theory yeah, you'd think.

But in reality, have you looked at any of the popular regular 5 indy's in tor, or any 5 regular popular indy's in mtl, do they budge? They DO charge more what agency rates go for. Their position is if you book me directly, you will get my indy rate.

They all set their rates and their rates are 'not negotiable'. The girls are all nearly universally price fixed together like a frat or an OPEC. There aren't any price wars where girls hurt ea. Other. They trade info within each other and blacklist numbers, etc. They look out for ea. Other like a sisterhood. Do you understand that aspect? They retweet ea. Other to promote ea. Other. They fly / drive to visit ea. Other have social time / know ea. Other across diff cities / countries.

I don't claim to be one of those experienced mtl members, you refer to, but.

Go send Lolathebrat an DM telling her you want her for 3 hrs, and each hour, you going to pay her progressively less. The email will go unanswered. She'd leave you to book her at her agency rates. These girls know they are a commodity as well as hold the line so that it's a self fulfilling prophecy. And they are'nt past their prime, like 35+ etc. And these girls arent the 'carrying 20 lbs extra weight' types which would probably more likely be negotiatable, perhaps those are the ones you're mind is set is on, or perhaps also you hit up a pure agency-only girl during your session you propose a futre one off, multi hour out of agency booking. But you're casting it all over to be universal, and that does not apply and that's what I have the main issues with.

Your generalities are as if one were to propose when a mtl girl would fly to toronto to tour, she should be offering herself to toronto punters at her mtl pricing of 220 and if she don't, it don't make sense.

But it just doesn't happen. She charges toronto prices. That 350 1 h, two for 700 or whatever structure. That's the reality.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460580]I see. This is an interesting take. Thank you.

Now that I think about it some more, I think if I were an agency, I wouldn't be opposed to letting them setup their own indy page. The caveat would be that their Indy rate has to be higher than the agency rate. The clients who want a lower rate can some to the agency, the ones who want to meet outside of agency policies and operation hours can work direct. Makes sense actually. Everyone is happy.[/QUOTE]Pcode, those were valid points in convenience and logistics made by dmm11.

I would also add that girls who do the agency / indy dual, have to deal with cancellations and those can come and hit like a storm. The agency shifts give them stable income because the cancellation gaps can be filled by the booker doing schedules. The girls who allocate their own indy day, do all their own scheduling and conversations, and a cancellation here and there can leave her with a day she was expecting a few hours of work, to be suddenly a lot less revenue as well as time to kill, (those 2 HR minimum requirements end up being a 2 HR cancellation) or time she could have just shown up for a robotic shift at the agency in the first place.

This is another reason and its not my own, to where there is the higher indy rate versus the agency one.

One of the benefits of direct booking is you can customize your experience if you are particular of a punter to enjoy that aspect, it's more available.

Say if you're one of the few who enjoy more than just telling the agency 'can I have her come by in a dress' and hope that gets conveyed, or you hope she brought one before she left the house that day.

With direct booking, as you can imagine, there is the ability to explore those scenarios much more because she has advance time to plan / get ready for you.

Ultimately, the decision on which to take is yours as those prices are for her hedging / maximizing the revenue efficiency of her time. Versus volitilaty at achieving that end for herself.

Nah. I'm actually correct about the pricing. And the girls are really smart. The ones that are good at business will not scare the clients by being greedy. I'm not going to waste time proving I'm right because I know from real life experience trustworthy preferred clients negotiate reasonable rates. So let's say I want 1 hour of sex, 1. 5 hour of conversation, and. 5 hour of conversation and massage. Ok so the first hour is 300 for hard sex. That is just. That is hard work. Then Do you really think you can charge someone $600 1 one hour of conversation and. 5 hour of massage. Get real man. Probably less than 5% of the people in the country can make $600 in 2 hours for talking. That being said You do need levarage to negotiate. What kind of men have 1000 dollars for a three dollar date? Where do these men live? Saturn? We can research all salaries no one except very low percentage have so much money to burn. As a joke Are you guys paying $1,000 for 3 hours of escorting as a cover-up for other under-the-table business. Are you exchanging gold petroleum or some other foot powder commodity?

Post what you will, but at least my experience proves I'm right. You can keep discussing all you want but I think I said enough already. Don't get carried away by hot looks and big numbers. Apply the numbers to reality and to the standard rates in the country and then ask yourself if it makes sense? This is just hype like when musicians from three decades ago they all claim their legendary album was the best selling album of all time in the so-and-so category. Like all musician say that. If you say you charge 1500 for 4 hours and then say fully booked all of a sudden smart people going to believe you it's just hype. Sure maybe a few dodo birds payed all that but smart people are aware comparitavely what services really cost.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2460666]There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.

When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety.

So if you deal directly with the girl and she charges you more than agency rate with no reason to justify this, then you just simply don't know how to negotiate prices. Or she is just taking advantage that you are nave. SORRY to have to say this, but there is no reason to pay higher independent rates. And also if someone charges 300 for one hour that doesn't mean that 3 hours are worth 900. Anyone who knows how to set prices knows that is ridiculous. Just think about it. Obviously longer bookings are negotiated as the amount of hours increase the rate per hour decreases. There are only very few opportunities in the world where anyone make $1500 for 5 hours, RARELY. Only if you can score 30 points over 5 guys who are 3 meters tall and weigh 120kilos. Once again if you don't understand this you need some experience negotiating price.

Also, the green form prohibits anyone from discussing pricing. That is obviously a power-play to give the price setters all the power. Customers also have a right to know and discuss the prices. If the customers are in complete ignorance about pricing than the service providers have an opportunity to unjustly take advantage of the customers.

Also, an agency cannot legally stop a girl from working on her own. Unless they sign a contract that says she cannot receive clients outside of the agency. Obviously no woman would ever sign such contract. However, since the agency presents the girl with opportunities and clients than the girl should have enough business acumen and manners and smart to work at least one or 2 days a week in the agency. The rest of the days the girls can advance her own career however she wishes to do so.Plus not all clients are interested in seeing the escort outside of the agency. Sure, the girls are fully booked but only in rush hours. I think a lot of people overestimate how busy the girls are.[/QUOTE]Why would their rate be lower as indy? If indy is offering incall, it usually means she is paying condo / apt rent per month. That runs anywhere from $600 to 1200 a month. As indy she also risk being cancelled on and less likely to fill those last minute slots. Also, I believe the whole point of being on your own is that you have enough demand / confidence to get a higher price, and subsequently earn more than working for others. Isn't that literally why people start working for themselves?

As for the hourly dropping when you book more time, I think many girls have grandfather rates for regulars.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2460734]
As for the hourly dropping when you book more time, I think many girls have grandfather rates for regulars.[/QUOTE]See, I told you. Grandfather rateS.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2460734]Why would their rate be lower as indy? [/QUOTE]Well maybe the Independent rate should not be lower but the same as the agencies. Okay so they Hopefully can pay their rent with the money they aren't giving the agency. Most guys would probably go for the agency girl because it's more affordable. Take a look at the products on Amazon, the lower price wins practically every time. It's not about me. Independent providers are losing their customers just for charging more than the agencies.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2460734]As indy she also risk being cancelled on and less likely to fill those last minute slots.
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The other day my priest told me to get creative. So if one client cancels on an independent provider. Next time she should wise up and book tWo clients for the same hour. If both clients show up they can just have a threesome. My priest. What a fng genius. He should get married.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2460705]Go send Lolathebrat an DM telling her you want her for 3 hrs, and each hour, you going to pay her progressively less. The email will go unanswered. She'd leave you to book her at her agency rates. These girls know they are a commodity as well as hold the line so that it's a self fulfilling prophecy. [/QUOTE]Totally with you on this. These girls have other things to do then hanging out with you unless you pay full rate.

Via Twitter DM Lolathebrat asked me to bring extra 60 $ for her on top of XO rate. She wrote "you will see why I will deserve the extra gratification."

What a brat! But she was totally right. I so much hope she will get back soon!

[QUOTE=Frank11;2460666]There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.

When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety..[/QUOTE]I think, as I was trying to say before, the reason they charge higher prices as indy is because they are probably asked / requested to charge higher prices by the agency they work with so that the agency can remain competitive. If they charge the same or lower, then that may remove the agency as the middleman entirely as you said. I mean, I am sure they can, and I hazard a guess that if it has been discovered that they charge the same or lower rate than agency, the agency might let them go (or maybe charge lower rate at the agency themselves but that would set an undesired precedence). In other words, I do not think the intent of going indy for them is to cut off the agency entirely. I actually think this is a good move for everyone from the business sense.

Also, as you said, even if the main mentality in this situation is "why would I pay for indy rate over agency rate for the same service", well the answer is at least the option is there in case one isn't able to get time within the agency hours. Example, maybe you want to book the girl weeks or months ahead of time. Agencies don't do that so you book through the indy channel. So yeah, for the Montreal dwellers the indiy rates don't make much sense but for myself who only visit every now and then, I appreciate having the option.

I do agree the math become undesirable when it comes to multiple hours. However, its probably something they'll figure out as well. Who knows, maybe girls don't really want multi hours generally.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2460803]Totally with you on this. These girls have other things to do then hanging out with you unless you pay full rate.

Via Twitter DM Lolathebrat asked me to bring extra 60 $ for her on top of XO rate. She wrote "you will see why I will deserve the extra gratification."

What a brat! But she was totally right. I so much hope she will get back soon![/QUOTE]Yeah maybe we should stop talking and arguing about rates. I mean, it is what it is, it's working and it's hard to argue with something that works. And to each their own.

I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):

Vogue. Audry, Jade.

Velvet. Arielle.

Euphoria. Anna, Amanda, Katia, Annabelle, Erika, Heaven, Kiara.

XO. Dasha, Lana, Anastasia, Elisa.

I think you can still find the reviews of that I posted on the green board.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2460803]Totally with you on this. These girls have other things to do then hanging out with you unless you pay full rate.

Via Twitter DM Lolathebrat asked me to bring extra 60 $ for her on top of XO rate. She wrote "you will see why I will deserve the extra gratification."

What a brat! But she was totally right. I so much hope she will get back soon![/QUOTE]

you need leverage to negotiate. What does leverage probably mean in this case? obviously leverage means money. So another words if you make a good contract where she's making a lot of money that can be used to receive more Time for the amount of money you offered her.You will not receive a discount if you're going to then go and spend your discount On another girl.

I would never negotiate through private messages. Plus I don't need to be rude And offer something she would not like. I would just wait to see what rates she offers me. I could politely say What sort of deal I expected. And then I would take her offer or leave it politely.

Most men here are working hard Their whole life. They probably don't make more than $100-$200 a day. They wouldn't pay 1060 for 3 hours. Why such inequality? So you would work 5 to 10 days (8 Times 10 = 80 hours) and spend it in 3 hours.

Jalimon, If you are so experienced Then I don't believe you would pay 1060 for 3 hours. Sorry, but I'm going to call you out on that. I'm telling you from experience The prices advertised For the top girls, if you know how to negotiate with leverage, are different from the real prices, At least Sometimes and Only for some locals. It depends sometimes the advertised prices areActually correct.

It's funny how it seems experienced mongers are trying to hide and lie about this obvious fact. And yes be careful with your money because you will find people who think you're dumb enough to pay 1500 for 4 hours. Just keep looking and you'll find most of these girls are down to earth when it comes to money. The girls themselves will make you a good offer. And a lot of them will feel bad if they are taking money from you that they don't deserve so much they will turn your payment down or return your money.The girls want you to keep coming back, they don't want you go broke.

Plus, to be honest 90% of the times I wouldn't even be interested in having sex 3 hours straight. Also I think it's true what someone said, sometimes a girl may feel uncomfortable making a long booking with someone she doesn't know.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460579]Yeah she's still on my list haha. I really like her demeanor and she was very good. Have you seen Emma from XO? I personally didn't think she's all that but I make a mention of this because she's got similar body type as Paril, just as pretty and apparently a lot of folks have voiced very positive reviews.[/QUOTE]Mon frère, I'm surprised you have seen Emma, Gaia / Luna and April. You said you prefer the slim / slender girls. You must have a penchant for big naturals on occasion.

Lola would be a good choice for you. She seems like a blast. She might be a bit skinny for me, but I like her face (the glimpses I see) and hair.

Who's this Paril you speak of?

[QUOTE=Frank11;2460853]Jalimon, If you are so experienced Then I don't believe you would pay 1060 for 3 hours. Sorry, but I'm going to call you out on that. I'm telling you from experience The prices advertised For the top girls, if you know how to negotiate with leverage, are different from the real prices, At least Sometimes and Only for some locals. It depends sometimes the advertised prices are Actually correct.

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Plus, to be honest 90% of the times I wouldn't even be interested in having sex 3 hours straight. Also I think it's true what someone said, sometimes a girl may feel uncomfortable making a long booking with someone she doesn't know.[/QUOTE]I am a special case I never do more than one hour. I never go for high price indy. The only thing I have done is multiple partner session with many girl. Where the girl got their regular hourly rate. I have met many girl this way. And we would always finish the night in a restaurant (where no social time was paid, only food / bar bill). Last one was last summer so it's been a while. But it was epic! 4 dudes 5 girls grrrr.

I have only succeed a few times with particular girl to extend a one hour session to a restaurant where again I only pay for food / booze. Tried with many others but received a no pay no go haha.

I am one who think, beside very few exception, there is absolutely no difference in service from a 220/240 reputable agency then from a 500/ hour indy.

There is enough fish in Montreal at every rate to stop talking rate.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460834]Yeah maybe we should stop talking and arguing about rates. I mean, it is what it is, it's working and it's hard to argue with something that works. And to each their own.

I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):

Vogue. Audry, Jade.

Velvet. Arielle.

Euphoria. Anna, Amanda, Katia, Annabelle, Erika, Heaven, Kiara.

XO. Dasha, Lana, Anastasia, Elisa.

I think you can still find the reviews of that I posted on the green board.[/QUOTE]With Lola's figure I would suggest you Annabelle [URL]https://twitter.com/rose_anna_belle[/URL] And she is awesome. Have not seen her yet but I have good intel on her.

From the one that are working now the one I would see in a heartbeat are:

XO: ELLY, Priscilla.

Euphoria: Annabelle, Amanda, Candice, heaven, Khloe, Marylin and Ruby.

[QUOTE=PCode80;2460834]I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):[/QUOTE]LOL.

I've had my fancy for ysabella at vog. Tall, slender. But more to the point anyone with a 32" chest or (under), with 5'8" (and above) is nearing the realm of model frame. This is near Brats zone.

But as you can see where brat is rather modest up top in the cup, which is often the case w / slender frames, ysabella is no exception too, but she has paid for hers.

Looks like a fine job as any, at least on the agency photos. But too pronounced still, if I had to complain. Maybe she's thinks she will grow into it by the time she's 26-27, but whatever.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2460855]Mon frre, I'm surprised you have seen Emma, Gaia / Luna and April. You said you prefer the slim / slender girls. You must have a penchant for big naturals on occasion.

Lola would be a good choice for you. She seems like a blast. She might be a bit skinny for me, but I like her face (the glimpses I see) and hair.

Who's this Paril you speak of?[/QUOTE]Sorry that's a typo. I meant "April".

Anyone see her yet?

Good posts, Frank11 You've asked where those men lived, on Saturn. Actually, as per Austin Powers movie they live 'on Uranus'.

[QUOTE=Kabukicho;2460889]LOL.

I've had my fancy for ysabella at vog. Tall, slender. But more to the point anyone with a 32" chest or (under), with 5'8" (and above) is nearing the realm of model frame. This is near Brats zone.

But as you can see where brat is rather modest up top in the cup, which is often the case w / slender frames, ysabella is no exception too, but she has paid for hers.

Looks like a fine job as any, at least on the agency photos. But too pronounced still, if I had to complain. Maybe she's thinks she will grow into it by the time she's 26-27, but whatever.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I see what you mean. She's on my list as well. Tried to see her last time I was there but she wasn't around. Well if she's still around when I am there later this summer, I'll report back to this group.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2460864]With Lola's figure I would suggest you Annabelle [URL]https://twitter.com/rose_anna_belle[/URL] And she is awesome. Have not seen her yet but I have good intel on her.

From the one that are working now the one I would see in a heartbeat are:

XO: ELLY, Priscilla.

Euphoria: Annabelle, Amanda, Candice, heaven, Khloe, Marylin and Ruby.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I am copying your list haha, although I have seen some of them in the past.

Yeah I have seen Annabelle. She's very toned and I feel she is more down-to-earth than LolaTheBrat, not that there is anything wrong with Lola. It's just the way she carries herself is a bit less energetic, which worked for me.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2460740]See, I told you. Grandfather rateS.

Well maybe the Independent rate should not be lower but the same as the agencies. Okay so they Hopefully can pay their rent with the money they aren't giving the agency. Most guys would probably go for the agency girl because it's more affordable. Take a look at the products on Amazon, the lower price wins practically every time. It's not about me. Independent providers are losing their customers just for charging more than the agencies.



The other day my priest told me to get creative. So if one client cancels on an independent provider. Next time she should wise up and book tWo clients for the same hour. If both clients show up they can just have a threesome. My priest. What a fng genius. He should get married.[/QUOTE]I'd never pay for a 2 hour booking where the overall hourly isn't lower. I. E. She has an hourly rate of $300, but her 2 hour rate is $600 won't ever get my business. I've only ever booked 3 hours once, and probably never again. Right now, I do agree girls are losing business like mine by having these static hourly rates. They only seem to be dropping it at the 3 hour mark or more.

Grandfather rate is only benficial if the client brings in more business because of it. A new cient would almost never get a grandfather rate because he'll probably be blocked before he can propose something or another.

Anyway, I will probably pay Cersei a cisit in July.

[QUOTE=MtlLocal;2461034]
Grandfather rate is only benficial if the client brings in more business because of it. A new cient would almost never get a grandfather rate because he'll probably be blocked before he can propose something or another.

Anyway, I will probably pay Cersei a cisit in July.[/QUOTE]Yeah grandfathers are loyal Like dogs So they keep coming backTo the girl. Grandfathers have enough trust And know how to negotiate, If she is going to say no Then don't even ask. Grandfathers know how to develop a business friendship with the girl. She has to be okay with spending time with you, not just sex. Doesn't work if you want to see a different girl every time. First hour cost $300 for skilled sex. 2nd hour was just talking so it has to cost less. Just find the girl that will tell you these things herself so you don't have to bargain Nor negotiate.

To all the doubters and critical thinkers, I'm just telling you something that is true. Instead of trying to prove me wrong Or dismissing me, figure out how you can make it happen. Try it for yourself. And only if you're Wise enough to be like a grandfather.Doesn't work all the times. Don't be discouraged. Of course not everyone wants to be a grandfather.

Cersei isReally hot LOL.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2461072]Yeah grandfathers are loyal Like dogs So they keep coming backTo the girl. Grandfathers have enough trust And know how to negotiate, If she is going to say no Then don't even ask. Grandfathers know how to develop a business friendship with the girl. She has to be okay with spending time with you, not just sex. Doesn't work if you want to see a different girl every time. First hour cost $300 for skilled sex. 2nd hour was just talking so it has to cost less. Just find the girl that will tell you these things herself so you don't have to bargain Nor negotiate.

To all the doubters and critical thinkers, I'm just telling you something that is true. Instead of trying to prove me wrong Or dismissing me, figure out how you can make it happen. Try it for yourself. And only if you're Wise enough to be like a grandfather.Doesn't work all the times. Don't be discouraged. Of course not everyone wants to be a grandfather.

Cersei isReally hot LOL.[/QUOTE]Multi-hour sessions are so overrated. Usually as soon as I bust the first nut, I'm already planning my exit. I would rather have an action packed 1 hour session than a multi-hour where I'm paying the girl to have a chat.

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2461126]Multi-hour sessions are so overrated. Usually as soon as I bust the first nut, I'm already planning my exit. I would rather have an action packed 1 hour session than a multi-hour where I'm paying the girl to have a chat.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with you on one hour sessions. Sometimes 90 minutes allows for some relaxed touching and kissing. If you're in the mood for two rounds, 90 minutes isn't such a rush. Escorts tell me some guys are so determined to bust two nuts in an hour session, that they seem to be in a race to bust the first nut the minute they walk in the door.

I think where things get interesting is when you are not in a First World mongering market. You can many times just chill with a local Latin American or Asian girl and it's not on an hourly clock.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2461133]I tend to agree with you on one hour sessions. Sometimes 90 minutes allows for some relaxed touching and kissing. If you're in the mood for two rounds, 90 minutes isn't such a rush. Escorts tell me some guys are so determined to bust two nuts in an hour session, that they seem to be in a race to bust the first nut the minute they walk in the door.

I think where things get interesting is when you are not in a First World mongering market. You can many times just chill with a local Latin American or Asian girl and it's not on an hourly clock.[/QUOTE]I like busting 2. One is never enough. Sometimes I don't make it, rarely I just didn't want it. The gems are the ones who try to get a third nut popped. If I'm iffy about someone by reading bipolar reviews, I'll do an hour and see how it goes.

Wyatt, when will we tango in Rio again?

Alright guys I'm going to elaborate further on the prices. I got for 1000 the entire evening, then sleeping together, and then a 2nd round until early afternoon. I'm not saying this to brag. I wrote exactly what I paid without lowering the price to seem cool. She is one of the top providers. Tall and thin and beautiful and young. She was happy and I was happy. Making 1000 in less than 24 hours is an extremely difficult feat to accomplish. I don't usually do this overnight thing. So normally I get 2 to 3 hours for 300. It depends on what date is. Like what do we have to do tomorrow? How drunk are we?

The only reason I'm sharing this with you is because I hear people saying 3 hours worth a thousand. Some people think overnight is worth 2500. And everybody is raising prices in a time of crisis. And all I see is greed greed greed from every side involved in the business. Even the guys are greedy. There's more to life than money.

No I'm not lying. Save yourselves all the BS criticizing my post. It's true okay. I have no reason to lie. Don't believe all these phony inflated rate published over the place. And that is a really low blow when someone says you can't discuss rates. Really, why not? Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.

How is it done? Grandfather rates. Repeat customer. I'm good client. I created a good business relationship. I also offered my professional and personal friendship.

Would be nice if everybody stop flashing their cash around and gave their neighbor a hug. And chill out with the housing crisis rental prices. Please! Free hugs for everyone okay on the house. I hope honest posts like this make the scene a better place. For everyone! Both providers and clients.Obviously, there are also a lot of honest hard-working people not just greed.

Anyone see this chic.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2461209]Alright guys I'm going to elaborate further on the prices. I got for 1000 the entire evening, then sleeping together, and then a 2nd round until early afternoon. I'm not saying this to brag. I wrote exactly what I paid without lowering the price to seem cool. She is one of the top providers. Tall and thin and beautiful and young. She was happy and I was happy. Making 1000 in less than 24 hours is an extremely difficult feat to accomplish. I don't usually do this overnight thing. So normally I get 2 to 3 hours for 300. It depends on what date is. Like what do we have to do tomorrow? How drunk are we?

The only reason I'm sharing this with you is because I hear people saying 3 hours worth a thousand. Some people think overnight is worth 2500. And everybody is raising prices in a time of crisis. And all I see is greed greed greed from every side involved in the business. Even the guys are greedy. There's more to life than money.

No I'm not lying. Save yourselves all the BS criticizing my post. It's true okay. I have no reason to lie. Don't believe all these phony inflated rate published over the place. And that is a really low blow when someone says you can't discuss rates. Really, why not? Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.

How is it done? Grandfather rates. Repeat customer. I'm good client. I created a good business relationship. I also offered my professional and personal friendship.

Would be nice if everybody stop flashing their cash around and gave their neighbor a hug. And chill out with the housing crisis rental prices. Please! Free hugs for everyone okay on the house. I hope honest posts like this make the scene a better place. For everyone! Both providers and clients.Obviously, there are also a lot of honest hard-working people not just greed.[/QUOTE]Shit man, $1000's a lot. I'm pretty sure some dudes get freebies. Maybe not by the career chics, and peeps prob know who these chics are. But the low profile ones in an agency, the ones who prob get little reviews and are better if not equivalent to the "superstars"? I'm sure guys have had these chics staying longer, coming back after shifts, going out for drinks, coming back for some naught naughty when not working for free? Makes no sense to me to say I got this much for say amount of cash? Just saying? Better off talking about who to see and who not to.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2461217]Shit man, $1000's a lot. I'm pretty sure some dudes get freebies. Maybe not by the career chics, and peeps prob know who these chics are. But the low profile ones in an agency, the ones who prob get little reviews and are better if not equivalent to the "superstars"? I'm sure guys have had these chics staying longer, coming back after shifts, going out for drinks, coming back for some naught naughty when not working for free? Makes no sense to me to say I got this much for say amount of cash? Just saying? Better off talking about who to see and who not to.[/QUOTE]Like you say, Yes 1000 is a lot. Only did this once. I usually pay 300. I also think 300 is a lot.

In reply to your comment, yes some people probably do get freebies. I don't.

I only talk about the prices, so customers can be informed and not get taken advantage of by unfair prices. For example, Just a few posts ago some guy was saying 3 hours was worth a thousand and some people were saying that is non-negotiable. Not always, according to my experience.

You say it makes no sense talking about prices...Sorry about that... However, Some people think discussing prices is in the customers favor and is a valuable Informative conversation. I think a healthy conversation about prices will also benefit the providers.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2461217]Shit man, $1000's a lot. I'm pretty sure some dudes get freebies. Maybe not by the career chics, and peeps prob know who these chics are. But the low profile ones in an agency, the ones who prob get little reviews and are better if not equivalent to the "superstars"? [/QUOTE]Freebies as like free sessions? Nope that does not happen. But you are absolutely right saying low profile girl are very often equivalent to superstars. The amount you pay has no impact on service. The amount you pay has an impact on having better chances to get the service you ask for. But then again I got burned by high priced indy and will not enter that territory ever.

Still if you will not get freebies I can assure you if you repeat with those low profile girl enough you will get benefit. I am rarely ask for extra like greek, CIM, cimws and very often get a longer session or time in restaurant or bar for free social time (as long as I pay the tab).

But that was when I was very active. For the last 6 months I have been pretty much completely inactive and the girls are not returning my message haha. It's OK for me as long as I am long longer an active prospect I am being ignored.

I may be back at it if things return to some kind of normal.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2461349]Like you say, Yes 1000 is a lot. Only did this once. I usually pay 300. I also think 300 is a lot.

In reply to your comment, yes some people probably do get freebies. I don't.

I only talk about the prices, so customers can be informed and not get taken advantage of by unfair prices. For example, Just a few posts ago some guy was saying 3 hours was worth a thousand and some people were saying that is non-negotiable. Not always, according to my experience.

You say it makes no sense talking about prices...Sorry about that... However, Some people think discussing prices is in the customers favor and is a valuable Informative conversation. I think a healthy conversation about prices will also benefit the providers.[/QUOTE]Are the man who posts here as well tried SA in MTL and how good luck with good prices too. Would be cool to get his perspective.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2461209]Alright guys I'm going to elaborate further on the prices. I got for 1000 the entire evening, then sleeping together, and then a 2nd round until early afternoon. I'm not saying this to brag. I wrote exactly what I paid without lowering the price to seem cool. She is one of the top providers. Tall and thin and beautiful and young. She was happy and I was happy. Making 1000 in less than 24 hours is an extremely difficult feat to accomplish. I don't usually do this overnight thing. So normally I get 2 to 3 hours for 300. It depends on what date is. Like what do we have to do tomorrow? How drunk are we?

The only reason I'm sharing this with you is because I hear people saying 3 hours worth a thousand. Some people think overnight is worth 2500. And everybody is raising prices in a time of crisis. And all I see is greed greed greed from every side involved in the business. Even the guys are greedy. There's more to life than money.

No I'm not lying. Save yourselves all the BS criticizing my post. It's true okay. I have no reason to lie. Don't believe all these phony inflated rate published over the place. And that is a really low blow when someone says you can't discuss rates. Really, why not? Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.

How is it done? Grandfather rates. Repeat customer. I'm good client. I created a good business relationship. I also offered my professional and personal friendship.

Would be nice if everybody stop flashing their cash around and gave their neighbor a hug. And chill out with the housing crisis rental prices. Please! Free hugs for everyone okay on the house. I hope honest posts like this make the scene a better place. For everyone! Both providers and clients.Obviously, there are also a lot of honest hard-working people not just greed.[/QUOTE]We all want different things, which can impact the transnational aspect of booking. What you are offering lends itself to grandfathering. On the otherhand, I am not really interested in overnighte. I'd be gone long before I fell asleep. Likewise, I don't want to friends whose services I'll be paying for at so. I can get behind cultivating a professional relationship, but only to to a certain point. Beyond that point, I wouldn't be able to keep seeing that person without caring in a why that isn't conductive to pay for play.

All I want is sub $300 HR and Sub $400 90 m. By sub I mean any amount under even if it was just $10.

I'm starting to doubt the scene is going to "recover" from this. Increased prices probably won't drop off this year. Agency only will be getting my miney as a result. I'm terrible at negotiating anyway. Not my style.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2461467]Are the man who posts here as well tried SA in MTL and how good luck with good prices too. Would be cool to get his perspective.[/QUOTE]Yes, if anyone has any interesting pricing stories, we want to hear about them. Guys if you have some hot information to post. You don't always have 2 reveal your identity. Sometimes forums allow users to have more than one account. Use anonymous nickname.

I think we can keep the conversation civil. Sometimes people get nervous talking about money. That is normal. No need to worry.

Guys and the girls in Montreal are very honest too. When I was young and dumb I gave her 500 for 2 hours. On her own initiative she gave me the money back and said I usually just charge 300. Of course, I called her back for another session and gave her all the money she returned to me. She helped me out, so I had to help her out.

With another girl it was 240 for an hour and I Told her I would include a tip for a total of 280. She gave me the tip back. And she wouldn't take it.

I learned A lot of women are hard-working and honest. They prefer to make business connections and build their network instead of taking advantage of their customers, Or just "staying quiet".

[QUOTE=Frank11;2461597]Yes, if anyone has any interesting pricing stories, we want to hear about them. Guys if you have some hot information to post. You don't always have 2 reveal your identity. Sometimes forums allow users to have more than one account. Use anonymous nickname.

I think we can keep the conversation civil. Sometimes people get nervous talking about money. That is normal. No need to worry.

Guys and the girls in Montreal are very honest too. When I was young and dumb I gave her 500 for 2 hours. On her own initiative she gave me the money back and said I usually just charge 300. Of course, I called her back for another session and gave her all the money she returned to me. She helped me out, so I had to help her out.

With another girl it was 240 for an hour and I Told her I would include a tip for a total of 280. She gave me the tip back. And she wouldn't take it.

I learned A lot of women are hard-working and honest. They prefer to make business connections and build their network instead of taking advantage of their customers, Or just "staying quiet".[/QUOTE]One time, I booked a girl for 90 min, and her driver came half an hour late! But we only talked that extra time. She was very pretty.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2461216]Anyone see this chic.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Lanna at VOG used to be Charlie at Euphoria. Charlie has reviews on the green board.

Cool story about the driver. Maybe he fell asleep waiting for her. lol

Maybe the guys who get freebies maybe they are the escort's boyfriend. Does That qualify as a freebie. Freelove. :)

[QUOTE=Frank11;2461209]Alright guys I'm going to elaborate further on the prices. I got for 1000 the entire evening, then sleeping together, and then a 2nd round until early afternoon. I'm not saying this to brag. I wrote exactly what I paid without lowering the price to seem cool. She is one of the top providers. Tall and thin and beautiful and young. She was happy and I was happy. Making 1000 in less than 24 hours is an extremely difficult feat to accomplish. I don't usually do this overnight thing. So normally I get 2 to 3 hours for 300. It depends on what date is. Like what do we have to do tomorrow? How drunk are we?

The only reason I'm sharing this with you is because I hear people saying 3 hours worth a thousand. Some people think overnight is worth 2500. And everybody is raising prices in a time of crisis. And all I see is greed greed greed from every side involved in the business. Even the guys are greedy. There's more to life than money.

No I'm not lying. Save yourselves all the BS criticizing my post. It's true okay. I have no reason to lie. Don't believe all these phony inflated rate published over the place. And that is a really low blow when someone says you can't discuss rates. Really, why not? Suuuuuuuuuuuuure..[/QUOTE]I don't really understand why anyone cares how much he spent. He could have spent 1000 of butt ugly SW for 5 minute or a Victoria secret model for the whole night.

Its his money, his time, his review. That's the point of this forum what our experiences.

All that needs to be said is good for and thank you for the info.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2461652]One time, I booked a girl for 90 min, and her driver came half an hour late! But we only talked that extra time. She was very pretty.[/QUOTE]Have any of you guys banged a working girl and she was enjoying it so much that she did not realize (or ignored) that time was up?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2461778]Have any of you guys banged a working girl and she was enjoying it so much that she did not realize (or ignored) that time was up?[/QUOTE]I can only wish I was that good. Haha. However, I have had a few occasions where they lost track but not to the point that time was totally up. I've had sessions where the girl felt like time "flew".

Got some intel from solid boys that Leyla from euphoria is a rock star. Has anyone seen her and could you give some feedback? Another source said she was kinda similar to Priscilla at XO. Anyone seen both and can give comparison?

I liked Priscilla a lot, very naturally pretty. Not one to lather on a ton of make up simply because she doesn't need it. Has pretty facial features and def well above average service level. So def interested to see how Leyla compares.

Also sienna has been getting good reviews on the green board, and her pricing is at 'premium, anyone seen?

If you get a chance to see Elly from XO, I think you should go for it. Here's why I say so: for me, she was heavily pushed by some of our contemporaries on the green board. Some of these ladies who get a similar push by the same boys tend to, well to be blunt, have for my tastes a bit of a Prima Donna complex sometimes. I didn't really get that vibe from Elly, seemed really down to earth. Her service level was well above average. Next to my absolute fav Sasha jo, I'the say Elly was very into the session and making sure I was having fun. There was absolutely no sense of trying to knickle and dime a guy during the session.

Liliana from XO is another solid bet from XO that I liked with a similar chilled out non pretentious vibe to Elly, would def see both if possible.

For me the absolute best of 2020 was Lexis at euphoria. Guys should know she's got a decent amount of tats though. Would be my vote for SP of the year.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2461463]Freebies as like free sessions? Nope that does not happen. But you are absolutely right saying low profile girl are very often equivalent to superstars. The amount you pay has no impact on service. The amount you pay has an impact on having better chances to get the service you ask for. But then again I got burned by high priced indy and will not enter that territory ever.

Still if you will not get freebies I can assure you if you repeat with those low profile girl enough you will get benefit. I am rarely ask for extra like greek, CIM, cimws and very often get a longer session or time in restaurant or bar for free social time (as long as I pay the tab).

But that was when I was very active. For the last 6 months I have been pretty much completely inactive and the girls are not returning my message haha. It's OK for me as long as I am long longer an active prospect I am being ignored.

I may be back at it if things return to some kind of normal.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Jal, my opinion is that if your not paying for it, it's not a session let alone a free session? Also, sometimes it does happen. Not everyday, but every some time some brothers get lucky. Obviously it's not going to be from a lady who charges over $300/ hour and has these 24 hour fly me to you packages, from those who heavily advertise revenue garnering services like only fans on twitter. Maybe someone will get lucky with these pros but there are a lot of girls who have a regular day job and what not and are I'm not sure how to describe them? Low profile? Not fussed? Just doing this for extra cash? Not sure dude, LOL? But meet up with their friends with guys at a bar, have hook ups. It does happen, LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2461778]Have any of you guys banged a working girl and she was enjoying it so much that she did not realize (or ignored) that time was up?[/QUOTE]No, but one time this chic let me take a shit, shave and a shower at her place before I got on a flight which I really appreciated. This was also at no extra charge.

Hello everyone,

Anyone have been with her? [URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/arianna/[/URL].

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2461830]Hello everyone,

Anyone have been with her? [URL]https://escortsxo.com/talent/arianna/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I have heard from very good and reliable friend that she's a Jennifer with bigger boobs. That remains to be proved but I trust the guys who wrote me that.

I am quite interested now haha.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2461892]I have heard from very good and reliable friend that she's a Jennifer with bigger boobs. That remains to be proved but I trust the guys who wrote me that.

I am quite interested now haha.[/QUOTE]Not all of us can recall the Montreal scene in great detail. Which agency and what years? I vaguely recall a star named Jennifer. Thanks.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2462051]Not all of us can recall the Montreal scene in great detail. Which agency and what years? I vaguely recall a star named Jennifer. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry. Ex Jennifer Euphoria / XO. She was so unreliable but my god so good and beautiful!! Retired for maybe 2 years now.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2461892]I have heard from very good and reliable friend that she's a Jennifer with bigger boobs. That remains to be proved but I trust the guys who wrote me that.

I am quite interested now haha.[/QUOTE]No chance that's the former Elle from vogue Jal?

[QUOTE=DontMindMe11;2461656]Lanna at VOG used to be Charlie at Euphoria. Charlie has reviews on the green board.[/QUOTE]If Lanna is indeed Charlie at Euphoria, I would not recommend her IF optic is important to you. I spent one hour with her last year at Euphoria. To me, she's a 4. That's obviously a subjective thing. I believe the agency did photoshop her photos. She provide pretty good service, but I couldn't DFK her long (few secs was enough) because her face was not attractive to me at all. Her face and her somewhat sagging tits are so not my type that I couldn't even cum. I should have given her 20 for taxis fare and asked her to leave at the beginning, but I kind of feel bad at that time. I have NEVER asked a lady to leave in all my mongering activities in MTL. For some reasons, I feel bad doing that. Has anyone of you done that? How would the agency react?

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2462156]If Lanna is indeed Charlie at Euphoria, I would not recommend her IF optic is important to you. I spent one hour with her last year at Euphoria. To me, she's a 4. That's obviously a subjective thing. I believe the agency did photoshop her photos.[/QUOTE]Of the 50 or so girls I have seen from the big agencies in Montreal, I don't think I have ever seen an unattractive girl. Maybe they weren't exactly my type, but I never dreaded kissing them. And yes looks are subjective but I met the last Charlie at Euphoria and I thought she was attractive. To me, she looked like her photos. But that is what review boards are for to get different perspectives.

As for the 2nd part of your post, I have never asked a girl to leave. Again I have never found one to be unattractive. There were a few that I thought had bad attitudes or were not in the right frame of mind. But I was worried what the agency would say and the "he said she said" aspect of the conversation. Also, I was once on a three way conversation with an agency and the SW when the Booker was yelling at the SW because she was late (made me feel bad for the SW). So since most of encounters are positive and I want to maintain good relations with the Agencies, I have never asked a girl to leave.

Interesting post and good questions.

Just saw on Nala Baez's Twitter account that she has left EscortsXO and will be available at VOG beginning tomorrow Monday June 29. Interestingly, her height has increased from being 5'1" at XO to 5'3" at VOG. At the rate she's growing, she'll be the same height as me (6 feet tall) by the time the US-Canada border reopens, LOL.

I've attached a photo from her Twitter account posted just before the quarantine. Maybe VOG measured her while she was wearing those heels.

[QUOTE=ChubzyMaximus;2462079]No chance that's the former Elle from vogue Jal?[/QUOTE]No clue sorry. Vogue (now Vog) is a mystery to me as I never do outcall. I live to far out of the city for them.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2462064]Sorry. Ex Jennifer Euphoria / XO. She was so unreliable but my god so good and beautiful!! Retired for maybe 2 years now.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have heard of her. I heard Jennifer was a very beautiful blonde. She likely was one of the top escorts in town (if not the top) during her time. I believe she was Indy for awhile after agency work, but was almost impossible to book if you weren't a regular or requesting several hours.

I just wanted to make sure. These names get recycled often. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2462197]Just saw on Nala Baez's Twitter account that she has left EscortsXO and will be available at VOG beginning tomorrow Monday June 29. Interestingly, her height has increased from being 5'1" at XO to 5'3" at VOG. At the rate she's growing, she'll be the same height as me (6 feet tall) by the time the US-Canada border reopens, LOL.[/QUOTE]It seems like when a girl changes agencies the new agency tinkers with their descriptions. They get younger, they get bustier and they get taller. Some even drop ten pounds just crossing the street to the new incall location. LOL.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2462330]It seems like when a girl changes agencies the new agency tinkers with their descriptions. They get younger, they get bustier and they get taller. Some even drop ten pounds just crossing the street to the new incall location. LOL.[/QUOTE]They probably copy / paste the profile of a previous girl to create the new one but forgot to adjust a few details.

Took me a while to realize that when you work as an escort you no longer age. Start at 20, work for 3 years, retire at 20. Cool no? Haha.

This is why forums are important.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2462401]They probably copy / paste the profile of a previous girl to create the new one but forgot to adjust a few details.[/QUOTE]I think you are being too generous to the agencies. The differences in descriptions are almost always tweaks. Nala went from 5'1" to 5'3". She didn't become 5'8".

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2462330]It seems like when a girl changes agencies the new agency tinkers with their descriptions. They get younger, they get bustier and they get taller. Some even drop ten pounds just crossing the street to the new incall location. LOL.[/QUOTE]Either Nala or someone at VOG saw my post, because Nala is now listed as 5'1" on VOG's website.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2462590]Nala went from 5'1" to 5'3". [/QUOTE]I think maybe Nala actually grew taller. As professional researchers we cannot dismiss any of the possibilities. Dennis Rodman Grew from 1. 73m (5.9 ft) to 2.1m (6.8ft) at age 20.

I think this happens when people wear those air Jordan basketball shoes. The expensive ones. Those shoes bring about unexpected growth spurt.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2462885]I think maybe Nala actually grew taller. As professional researchers we cannot dismiss any of the possibilities. Dennis Rodman Grew from 1. 73m (5.9 ft) to 2.1m (6.8ft) at age 20.

I think this happens when people wear those air Jordan basketball shoes. The expensive ones. Those shoes bring about unexpected growth spurt.[/QUOTE]These ladies are all too familiar with growth spurts. Ba-dum-bump!

Hey there,

Has anyone seen Lady Zoe from twitter? Apparently she worked for an agency before (though not one of the main 2). At LadyZoeMtl on twitter.

Curious, as she looks good.

Is that how you spell it? It's an agency I've never seen them advertise on the green board. Anyone have any experience with them.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2462954]Hey there,

Has anyone seen Lady Zoe from twitter? Apparently she worked for an agency before (though not one of the main 2). At LadyZoeMtl on twitter.

Curious, as she looks good.[/QUOTE]To make it easy: [URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/LadyZoeMtl[/URL].

I hear a lot about her these days. I will have good intel on her soon.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2463167]To make it easy: [URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/LadyZoeMtl[/URL].

I hear a lot about her these days. I will have good intel on her soon.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Great, hope you'll post what you find out about her!

You guys brought up the topic of agencies tinkering a girl description when she changes agency. In fact, MontrealXXXtase even tinkered its own girl description after she left the agency for one year and came back. Case in point, I met Rachel almost 3 years ago when she was listed as new and 18 years old on XXXtase website. She was clearly 'new' to the industry at that age. She worked there for about one and half years and then disappeared from XXXtase for more than a year. She recently returned to XXXtase which has listed her as 18 years old and 'new' again with the same old photos. That's clearly a lie. She's definitely NOT 'new' at XXXtase. She's at least 20 yo by now. I actually think she's probably 21 at this point. Why would XXXtase need to lie about her age? That makes no sense. I guess XXXtase is hoping that unsuspected or new mongers won't know about her status and get baited into the fantasy of having an 18 yo to choose from. I bet most mongers would still want to see her as long as she's 25 or younger. To me, Rachel is an 8 for her body and 6 for her face (more like GND look). Her service was a 9 for me at that time. I wonder if her excellent service may change after Covid-19.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2463219]Great, hope you'll post what you find out about her![/QUOTE]You bet! I used to share a lot. Especially in my first 3 years on the green board I was very very active. Less the past year because I mostly saw retired girl.

They never truly retire until they do with regulars.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2463260]You bet! I used to share a lot. Especially in my first 3 years on the green board I was very very active. Less the past year because I mostly saw retired girl.[/QUOTE]To paraphrase Nora Desmond (Gloria Swanson) from Sunset Boulevard:

There once was a time in this business when Jalimon had the eyes of the whole Quebec! But that wasn't good enough for them, oh no!

Has anybody seen or heard from Julia lately.

She has all but disappeared no activity on her Twitter since May 30.

Won't answer email or phone text.

She was a friend I am a bit worried about her, if she just quit that is fine I wish her well.

I just hope she is OK.

A real nice and sweet girl.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2463673]To paraphrase Nora Desmond (Gloria Swanson) from Sunset Boulevard:

There once was a time in this business when Jalimon had the eyes of the whole Quebec! But that wasn't good enough for them, oh no![/QUOTE]Shoot my English is not good enough to grasp the true meaning of your sentence.

So I did a first session in quite some time! Went to see Heaven from Euphoria. I wanted a sure thing. A queen. This girl is built for sex. Yet at the same time so cool, humorous and. Nasty haha Had a blast!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jalimon2;2463803]Shoot my English is not good enough to grasp the true meaning of your sentence.

So I did a first session in quite some time! Went to see Heaven from Euphoria. I wanted a sure thing. A queen. This girl is built for sex. Yet at the same time so cool, humorous and. Nasty haha Had a blast!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Basically, you wrote a lot of good stuff for them and they blew it.

I have a question about Heaven. I'm very particular about naturals or reasonably shaped man-mades. Are Heaven's breasts as unnatural as they appear in the photos?