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After my shitty experience at the infamous FKK Artemis which I consider not worth the price of admission, I decided to try three low budget bordellos within walking distance of my Hotel in Mitte. The first one was Maison de Envie and when I arrived they only had three girls available and I chose one who was from Bulgaria who I had to pay 60 Euros for 1/2 hour. She spoke practically no English and it turned out not to be the greatest session and I had to fight with her to use my condom, etc. But she finally cooperated, had a nice rack on her, and was tight so I was able to finish. Afterwards I talked with the Lady in charge who was from Cuba so we spoke in Spanish and I told her I was disappointed with the Bulgarian and she acknowledged that she was not the greatest but told me when to come back she would have something better for me.

The next Bordello I tried was Europa Salon. I really didn't have a choice here because the girl who let me in from Moldavia was the only one available and a larger boned girl, not fat but pretty but with a very nice disposition so I said okay why not, it was 60 Euros for 1/2 hour. What a sweetheart and spoke five languages fluently so we bounced between English and Spanish and had a good time.

The next Bordello I visited was Fredenhaus Hase and this was on a Sunday afternoon and they had four of the ugliest, fat, and heavily tatted girls I have ever seen before so I was polite and thanked the Lady in charge and departed. These girls were the bottom of the barrel but being a Sunday afternoon I figured these were the only ones available.

At this point I called it a day and on Monday went back to Maison de Envie and when I arrived I asked the Cuban Lady to make a recommendation. So this black haired woman not thin but not fat and okay face and body comes in and is from Cuba and speaks no German but Italian and Spanish. So this time I opt for the 20 minute option at 40 Euros and she was pretty good and even got off as she gushed when I was doing her in doggie. It was a good experience.

So today I have been packing for my departure to Iceland tomorrow and was thinking of trying King George or Caligula to round out my Berlin mongering experiences but decided to go back Fredenhaus Hase as it is only a twenty minute walk from my Hotel and check it out. I'm glad I did. I arrived and asked the Lady in charge to only show me the thin girls, no beasts please. So I was shown I think eight girls who were all between 5 and 6's however there was one who was quite pretty, tall and lean wearing these horn rimmed glasses.

So I told the Lady in charge which one and she brought her in. On their website the pricing was not listed so I asked what the fees were for twenty minutes. The Lady said 15 Euros room rental and 20 Euros for the girl for twenty minutes unless I wanted extras. The Lady said this girl was from Bulgaria and didn't speak any English which concerned me but I found the girl to be very sexy. So I said okay, however I had her tell the girl if she did a good job she would get a tip and that put a smile on her face. So off to the room and she had a nice body, kind of like a Zebra and was a turn on. She gave a great BJ, albeit covered and was nice and tight. After experimenting in a couple of positions she got on top and finished me off. This was a nice one, best of the trip and when I gave her a 15 EURO tip she couldn't believe it. I think she thought I was Bill Gates. If I was staying here longer I would return and get the BJ uncovered for sure.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2345852]On your other questions: Tuesday is quite slow, Thursday will be better. But much better in evening starting at 1700 vs. during the day. Thursday night one of best of week - lots of choices, not so full of men like on Saturday. Consider way to stay til 2200 or so. Main bar area air conditioned, rooms are not but all have large ceiling fan and it is ok unless very hot outside. But you can also go to small rooms outside near pool, or even cooler rooms in basement floor just between cinema and fitness area.

Artemis will have girls you like. Extras will need to be negotiated. BJs Kissing etc. will depend a little how busy it is, mood, etc. Make sure they know you have been to FKK before. Just take it slow to see if some chemistry, and do not feel shy about saying "no". And do not pay stupid expensive prices. All this discussed in detail (with a lot of disagreements) in Artemis thread. But at least you can see range of expectations. Entrance is 80 Euros, then 30 minutes is 60 Euros + extras which can vary a lot.

Artemis easy to reach by S-Bahn (Westkreuz station) or Bus -several running on Kurfurstendam stop at Halensee. Short 5 minute walk from there. Use Google, Here, or Map Me (open source) digital maps. But quite simple to find.
If you have more questions about this, use the Artemis thread.

But, you might also consider visiting better private apartment bordellos - see reviews in Berlin for Beginners report (better link here): [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide&p=2238483&viewfull=1#post2238483[/URL]

Good luck to our Chinese guest.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed reply. Unfortunately, I'm only available during the day. Also, I tend to "perform" better during the day vs at night. Anyways, I think I definitely want to goto a FKK while I'm in Germany since I don't really find it any place else. I'm arriving on a Thursday so I'll go then. I may try a bordello when I'm back on Tuesday but I figure the line up will be even worse during the day.

[QUOTE=Enphl;2347712]Thanks for the detailed reply. Unfortunately, I'm only available during the day. Also, I tend to "perform" better during the day vs at night. Anyways, I think I definitely want to goto a FKK while I'm in Germany since I don't really find it any place else. I'm arriving on a Thursday so I'll go then. I may try a bordello when I'm back on Tuesday but I figure the line up will be even worse during the day.[/QUOTE]If you can only go during the day, suggest forgetting Artemis. Bordello lineups are strongest during day. Artemis very quiet until early evening. You might try somehow to change schedule, or stay extra day so if you want to go there, you at least go at best time. With many more girls, you will perform.

[QUOTE=Enphl;2347712]Thanks for the detailed reply. Unfortunately, I'm only available during the day. Also, I tend to "perform" better during the day vs at night. Anyways, I think I definitely want to goto a FKK while I'm in Germany since I don't really find it any place else. I'm arriving on a Thursday so I'll go then. I may try a bordello when I'm back on Tuesday but I figure the line up will be even worse during the day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2347830] Bordello lineups are strongest during day. .[/QUOTE]I was reading through a number of posts on Bordello's and decided to toss in my 2 cents as I have been doing some research into Berlin for an upcoming trip. Most / much of my research is from the German language boards, where there are many specific reviews. The thing I first noticed is that since many of the girls move around you might find a review of a girl at Gina's Tano Rosa one time and then in another place 6 months later. Some of the bordellos have lists of their girls online, with specific times, while others request you inquie (I. E. Try and reserve). Some of the German sites offer you the ability to sms the girls directly and then you can plan a visit at a specific time / place. If you have to take a chance, then you do the line up and either pick one or walk to the next place.

If all of this sounds daunting in a small space of time, or a single day in Berlin with limited flexibilty then I suggest what NNinja said, and just go to Artemis. Again, sitting there for a bit, looking at so many hot ladies, does wonders for your erotic imagination. Expect there to be a lot of Romanians, a few Hungarians or Russians and maybe a German lady or two. You can also try to just book the lady you want. Massage Republic is an english language site that has a nice list of woman and the services they offer and I had great success using What's App getting price, time, and location up front. (no surprises). While it's called Massage Republic, it's a full meal deal, including some BDSM and Fetish ('bizarre sex" the Germans phrase it). Their pull down menu is sublime. Berlinintim. De has an english language translation and lists many clubs, bordellos etc. It gives the main numbers of the clubs. On the club websites are often the names of the ladies working "aktuell" (currently) and you can call the club and ask if the girl is going to be in when you plan to be there. Just a side note, sometimes you have fumble around on the Bordello page to find the link to the ladies. Not all of them have it in the top menu bar (I've found similar layout issues on smaller FKKs).

Good luck and let us hear from you on your return.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2348103]I was reading through a number of posts on Bordello's and decided to toss in my 2 cents as I have been doing some research into Berlin for an upcoming trip. Most / much of my research is from the German language boards, where there are many specific reviews. The thing I first noticed is that since many of the girls move around you might find a review of a girl at Gina's Tano Rosa one time and then in another place 6 months later. Some of the bordellos have lists of their girls online, with specific times, while others request you inquie (I. E. Try and reserve). Some of the German sites offer you the ability to sms the girls directly and then you can plan a visit at a specific time / place. If you have to take a chance, then you do the line up and either pick one or walk to the next place.

If all of this sounds daunting in a small space of time, or a single day in Berlin with limited flexibilty then I suggest what NNinja said, and just go to Artemis. Again, sitting there for a bit, looking at so many hot ladies, does wonders for your erotic imagination..[/QUOTE]I believe what the original poster said he was not a night time type of monger and Nooky Ninja recommended him going to a bordello during the day which I agree with 100 % based on my daytime experience at Artemis. I posted reviews of three lower end bordellos but am not sure the poster would be satisfied with the line-ups there. I got lucky on my last day at one of them and it can be very hit and miss as I experienced.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2348103]In a small space of time, or a single day in Berlin with limited flexibilty then I suggest what NNinja said, and just go to Artemis. [/QUOTE]Except if you read carefully, Ninja said if only option is during the daytime [I][b]don't[/b][/I] go to Artemis. Not worth price (80 EUR entrance + 60/ [i]30 min[/i] minimum and probably more) vs private flats (140 ish for [i]1 hour[/i] with typical extras), unless you also want to swim and chill outside, or use sauna, or exercise room. Especially in summer, A very slow during day-maybe 10 girls before 1700. Better, cheaper choices at e.g. Liberty (maybe best overall compromise for thin girls), Mon Rouge (also for thin girls),van Kampen, Prestige (around the corner, 5 min from Artemis), Gina's Tango, etc. Or Royal (very good, but not cheap).

Also, this "Massage Republic" site is just a global aggregator, quite weak in choices compared to BerlinIntim, Kaufmich, Omello, Mietmich, Markt.de, Ladies.de etc. Only advantage is MR in English, but on-line translators solve any problems on much better local sites. Otherwise independent privates and outcall escort sexfaris always hit and miss (photos shopped, not actually available), requiring lots of running around in city visitor may not know well.

For limited time, bigger better bordellos safest, best bet, and all easily reached by rented bicycle (within 15-20 min of each other) or public transport. At least what you see is what you get. Would start with those mentioned above for thin younger girls (which are not Ninja type at all, but seen plenty). Would never reserve unseen as no way to feel chemistry. Just go, look, discuss and choose, or leave.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2348264]Except if you read carefully , Ninja said ......[/QUOTE]Who am I to disagree with Ninja! Completely right. Thanks for posting the names of the Bordellos with comments, very useful! And even a site like Lusthaus is somewhat readable with Google translate if you want to search for reviews on some of the ladies, it's just a little daunting to navigate around if your German is completely lacking.

I also agree about Massage Republic being an aggregator, but it's an easy first step into the escort world. I like the fact that they tell you whether the girls have incall / outcall and most offer a starting price for services. Berlinintim was a little overwhelming to me when I first came across the site.

Again, thanks for clarifying my post NN.

Tin.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2348368]Berlinintim was a little overwhelming to me when I first came across the site. [/QUOTE]Just wanted to clarify, not meant as snarky reply. Thanks for your comments.

These global sites slick technically but usually hopelessly out of date. If you really want to see lookers - search for "City of Love" and choose your locale. But local sites, with own limitations, still more up to date.

Some find Berlin "Intim" is short for Intimidation. But if you look at BerlinIntim webpages, in upper right is a small DE flag that sets language preference. It can be changed to the UK flag and every page is then sort of in English. We call it Sexit. No doubt some AI thing but certainly enough to get the job done, and kind of amazing they do this. But then, we are sexport-oriented economy.

Anyway, do not over plan, and spend less time on screen, and more time in bed...

This is not a report about a specific visit but more a general report of the Erlebniswohnung (translates as something like "Adventure / Experience Apartment". Please see [URL]www.erlebniswohnung.com[/URL] for details. It is a location, where people meet for gang bangs. Girls go there for getting fucked by a crowd of men. Sometimes there are 10-15 men banging one girl. The girls are very often surprisingly beautiful and young. Rare exceptions. Since this is a gang bang concept, you are not supposed to fuck the girl until you come. You may fuck her, then let another dude do the job which you jerk-off a bit, receive a blow-job or just rub your penis on her body. Usually, the girls suck dicks while they get fucked by other dudes. If the girl is horny, it can be really fun. Many do COB. Everything is safe, using condoms is mandatory and required by law. What I like about the gang bang concept is, that there is no pressure at all. You may fuck a girl or you don't, you may come or you don't and nobody cares. Food and drinks are included in the entry fee (rates are on the website). After spending a day in there, you will end up having fucked (or played with) about 8 -10 women. And it will cost you less than EUR 100 incl. Food and drinks. Mustafa, the owner of the club is a nice guy. In the past he used to partake in the sessions which was a bit odd because the girls took special care of the boss, of course. But recently he doesn't do that anymore according to my experience. The club has previously been located in the city center and at that time, the laws in Berlin have been very relaxed. So many local girls from Berlin went there for 2 -3 hours just for getting intensely fucked by a horde of strangers. Nowadays, the club's new location and even more the new laws (aiming specifically against gang bangs and flatrate-brothels) made the scene a bit more boring. If you go there on two consecutive days, you'll find that the girls are almost the same. One reason is that girls now need to register officially when going there as a performer and I think many of the young non-professional girls who went there in the past do not want to do that (if they do, they need to pay taxes, get medical checks, etc.). But still, I love the concept and if you do it from time to time, there will always be some fresh talent. I fucked Germans, Turkish girls, Africans, US-Americans, Asians and Caribbean girls in there as well as some East Europeans. So it is as international as Berlin and at the same time it is simply a relaxed atmosphere. Much more relaxed than a one-to-one session in many clubs or brothels. Since gang bangs are not that easy to have outside Germany, I would give it a try when you are in Germany and Berlin specifically.

Went on a Thursday, and went for all day, 11 am until about 2 am. I did leave for a few hours to go to the gym. Decent enough food at breakfast and dinner. Decent line up during the day, gets much stronger around 5 pm. There are lots of sharks and upselling, but fun can still be had if you negotiate. I almost always opt for 30 min with OV ohne. Some girls will want 40-60 euro for this. Had 2 girls out of 6 do it for free. One of the mistakes I think you can make in this place is trying to have some kind of conversation in the room. Have all the chit chat out of the room. As soon as they close the door I bend them over and put my tongue right in their ass. You have to set the pace or the girl will waste time dicking around. Anyway I managed 6 pops, all 30 minutes. All but one girl kissed for no up charge. So all in all I spent 400 euro, got six pops, 3/4 free meals, and got plenty of sauna and sun. Essentially all the girls are Romanian / Bulgarian / Brazilian etc. Last summer I had an amazing Colombian that I actually upgraded to two hours, and it was worth it. She was great fun. Also last year I had a local German college girl with an all natural body that I also upgraded to two hours. There was nothing on offer this time that would have inspired me to two hours. Overall the quality of the girls is down, but its not impossible to have a good time. There are plenty of scrubs around that just want to talk and bullshit and not go to the room. I saw several groups of Indian and Japanese businessmen that spent all day huddled in groups just looking at the girls going by. Don't be those guys. I would say the girls in Lisbon, or in Apartments are better but it doesn't work if you are looking for a full day of debauchery as I was. If you just want one pop I would say go to an apartment. Also sadly the hammam was closed.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2349106]Went on a Thursday, and went for all day, Anyway I managed 6 pops, all 30 minutes. All but one girl kissed for no up charge. So all in all I spent 400 euro, got six pops, 3/4 free meals, and got plenty of sauna and sun.[/QUOTE]BB-nice report. Please copy and paste into dedicated ISG Artemis thread: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin[/url]

because 1/ it belongs there and 2/ it introduce sanity into constant complaining and whining.

Ninja would do it but then it looks like from Ninja - you are author and deserve credit (and no doubt questions about names etc.) Danke.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2349106]Went on a Thursday, and went for all day, 11 am until about 2 am. I did leave for a few hours to go to the gym. Decent enough food at breakfast and dinner. Decent line up during the day, gets much stronger around 5 pm. There are lots of sharks and upselling, but fun can still be had if you negotiate. I almost always opt for 30 min with OV ohne. Some girls will want 40-60 euro for this. Had 2 girls out of 6 do it for free. One of the mistakes I think you can make in this place is trying to have some kind of conversation in the room. Have all the chit chat out of the room. As soon as they close the door I bend them over and put my tongue right in their ass. You have to set the pace or the girl will waste time dicking around. Anyway I managed 6 pops, all 30 minutes. All but one girl kissed for no up charge. So all in all I spent 400 euro, got six pops, 3/4 free meals, and got plenty of sauna and sun. Essentially all the girls are Romanian / Bulgarian / Brazilian etc. Last summer I had an amazing Colombian that I actually upgraded to two hours, and it was worth it. She was great fun. Also last year I had a local German college girl with an all natural body that I also upgraded to two hours. There was nothing on offer this time that would have inspired me to two hours. Overall the quality of the girls is down, but its not impossible to have a good time. There are plenty of scrubs around that just want to talk and bullshit and not go to the room. I saw several groups of Indian and Japanese businessmen that spent all day huddled in groups just looking at the girls going by. Don't be those guys. I would say the girls in Lisbon, or in Apartments are better but it doesn't work if you are looking for a full day of debauchery as I was. If you just want one pop I would say go to an apartment. Also sadly the hammam was closed.[/QUOTE]After reading your post, I finally get it about this establishment. The place is like the Playboy Mansion, you wear a bath robe, walk around and take a bunny upstairs, then refresh, drink, eat, take a dip, hit the the sauna, and then take another bunny upstairs and do this all day and into the night. Your Hugh Hefner! Or your a Sultan perhaps, and have this very large Harem from which to choose from.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2349765]... Or your a Sultan perhaps, and have this very large Harem from which to choose from.[/QUOTE]Pleased do not forget to mention the Sultan's large purse!

Surfer500, one suggestion: Would it be possible, that you delete some content of the large quotes? BB wrote a good report, but it is not needed to read it twice.

No offence, just a suggestion.

Can you get OWO in Berlin brothels?

[QUOTE=Piefke;2350046]Pleased do not forget to mention the Sultan's large purse!

Surfer500, one suggestion: Would it be possible, that you delete some content of the large quotes? BB wrote a good report, but it is not needed to read it twice.

No offence, just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]A large purse indeed at FKK Artemis, wasn't worth the price of admission for me, but I now see it's allure for others.

And no offence taken on your good suggestion!