Tokyo

[QUOTE=Achup;1095692]Anyone used S-Hana recently? Or know if they are still accepting Gaijin?[/QUOTE]Yes, they accept Gaijin, but it depends on the girl if she services gaijin. Mostly good experiences so far. Beware that they keep a blog on their clients. Bad behaviour and you are immediately on a black list. Repeated good behaviour and you are in for good times. Japanese is not a must, but survival Japanese helps.

I just try Kiraracafe at Shinjuku. It was 1pm.

I say, I live in Tokyo and I know a little bit japanese (in Japanese off course).

But the staff tell me no gaijin.

Bad trip!

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1102297]

[url]Http://www.kiraracafe.com/[/url]

Two branches. Maps attached, I personnally don't think they are hard to find but opinion may be biased by that I'be been there a lot.

Though I believe you understand the system, basically you have 2 rooms. A magic mirror in between allows the mens room to see the ladies room without being seen.

(Disclaimer: not talking about bathrooms here)

If you like a girl, call the staff and they will guide you to a room where you can get to know the girl (by this I mean TALK) and figure out what you would like next stage to be (karaoke, bar, restaurant, darts (WTF) , hotel.).

The 2 places are quite similar, but girls are not always the same (many are registered in both shops though).

Shinjuku.

- Girls more used to Gaijin.

- Men's space is ridiculously small.

- More girls around 9-10pm.

- Open until 5:00 (Sunday 0:00)

Ikebukuro.

- More "natural" girls (not dyed, no 15cm heels)

- More girls around 6-7pm.

- Open until 0:00.

Now I'm talking about places that are 4 train stops away from each other, so just add 'slightly' everywhere in the list above.

Also note that Shinjuku sometimes have 'gyaku' (inverted) nampa events where boys and girls switch rooms (you're the one being seen and picked. But you're still the one who pays hahaha)

Some comments :

- 99. 5 % of the girls are Japanese, most in their early 20s.

- A fair number of girls do act like pros ('Hello, what's your name, yeah whatever let's go to hotel. 25, 000 OK? ') but most of them are freebies and are students, shop vendors, 'freeters' etc. In the real world. Looks and attitude follow, which means you can expect to meet real girls next door (for what the meaning of 'girl next door' in a city like Tokyo is worth) and that karaoke and drinks are enough to entertain them.

- This being said, most are here for the same reason: your money (some are here for the free soft drinks and air conditioner)

- Rules: Max. 5-10 minutes of talk. Can talk to as many girls as you want, but only once per girl. Don't touch, Don't exchange personal contacts inside the shop. The talk time is supposed to give you the occasion to nampa the girl so anything that would be inappropriate in 'real-life' nampa (touching, harassing.) is not okay in here.

Also use this time to negociate your price.

- Damage:

5000-6000 Yen to get in the shop and for free talk.

+ 3000 Yen to get out if accompanied ('couple's establishment fee')

+ Pocket money for the girl.

+ probably everything else that has to be paid on the way to wherever you want to take her (Kabukicho is full of cheap rental rooms)

Girls usually want 2, 000-5, 000 for drinks and karaoke, and sex generally goes from 20, 000 up to 50, 000 (I had to laugh at the face of that one). Not all the girls offer it (in contrast, some only offer sex)

Actually it partly depends on how you act and if she likes you.

It's possible to get something nice for slightly cheaper, but don't really count on it.

If getting laid is all that you want then obviously this is not the cheapest place in Tokyo. On the other hand, if you want something closer to a nice date with your girlfriend, I think you might enjoy the Kirara.

And my 2 yen:

- All the girls fill a profile form when they register. Reading them can get you an idea of what you can expect or not ("do you like sex? Average / a lot / hell yeah I do. Check most suitable one")

- You don't NEED to speak Japanese to get in. Staff is gaijin-friendly (at least in Shinjuku, not sure in Ikebukuro since I look and speak Japanese) and will be glad to let you in and guide you through if you understand the rules.

BUT if you don't, your options are limited (see previous point) and many girls don't speak English.

In that case going with a Japanese will probably help. If you're interested, we can go together next time and share a beer.

- All the girls fill a profile form when they register. Reading them can get you an idea of what you can expect or not ("do you like sex? Average / a lot / hell yeah I do. Check most suitable one")

- Usually going to sex places in group. Especially foreigners. Is a baaaad idea. But here it is totally ok (I will say up to 4 people) and can be fun (you can arrange double dates)

- At the beginning I was always going for straightforward sex, and then got tired of it. Now I prefer to go earlier (late afternoon) and take the girls to karaoke and drinks, and see what happens when last train gets close. No guarantee of sex but I'm having more fun this way and sometimes score at the end.

This is already been a long post, so I suggest you PM me if you want more details or have questions.

Take care.

Jared[/QUOTE]

Had a stop by Hinomaru yesterday, had my usual girl #28. She has an interesting technique which I will spare details for now and let you experience for yourself. On the way out I had a look to the left, and there was a guy getting fucked, no questions about it, definite penetration. I'm pretty sure it was Ayaka as there were only 3 girls working, and she was taken for a long period, and the other girl was only short time and the guy was getting his time limit as I was entering.It is interesting, in the waiting area there was a sign that said in Japanese, this is a no sex shop. This shop has always been no sex. Please understand and cooperate. Anyone ever get this extra service there?

[QUOTE=Dreams;1109217]RTTFF and search for "Sugami" Jan Jan" "Hinomaru".[/QUOTE]Um, he would get better results if he was properly directed to *Sugamo* Jan Jan and Hinomaru

[QUOTE=Raddict; 1109291]Had a stop by Hinomaru yesterday, had my usual girl #28. She has an interesting technique which I will spare details for now and let you experience for yourself. On the way out I had a look to the left, and there was a guy getting fucked, no questions about it, definite penetration. I'm pretty sure it was Ayaka as there were only 3 girls working, and she was taken for a long period, and the other girl was only short time and the guy was getting his time limit as I was entering.

It is interesting, in the waiting area there was a sign that said in Japanese, this is a no sex shop. This shop has always been no sex. Please understand and cooperate. Anyone ever get this extra service there? [/QUOTE]I've read in the past that early morning FS is available. The sign is just for show anyhow, same as all the DH places say that on their web sites. This game is always a matter of YMMV. .

The Tanuki

[QUOTE=Raddict;1109291]It is interesting, in the waiting area there was a sign that said in Japanese, this is a no sex shop. This shop has always been no sex. Please understand and cooperate. Anyone ever get this extra service there?[/QUOTE]My understanding of the usual "no sex" sign is : don't ask for sex. In most places you won't get it, but sometimes you get lucky. Depends on a lot, like the girl's mood, time of the day, whether shop is crowded or not, or some other detail you never suspected would make any difference. There seems to be no simple rule such as "you can always get FS with this girl" (I think) , at least not in places like pink salons where you don't get a private room.

[url]http://roppongi.bodyspa.jp/[/url] Anybody know what this place is?

Hi all.

I don't think this is new info, but maybe it will help someone, so here's my update, sorry if it is long. I went to Princess and finally get the pricing system. It's about 4000-5000 per hour for the shop, and a 3000 'tip' for each girl that you select. Each session is about 15-20 minutes. Drinks are pretty cheap there compared to a kabakura. You can reserve the girl for a slightly higher fee.

I'm not sure if you need to speak Japanese to get in the door, but you're going to at least need to know numbers as that's how you select the girl from the stage. And I'm talking about numbers 1-99, don't just study up to 10. And you're going to need to say it fast cause the selection only lasts about 1 min.

I went there 6 months ago, with no intention of doing anything but touching. Literally, the girls walk up to the stage from the couch that they were making out with some other guy with and go for re-selection. It was a little too much for me. But I was down with the touching part of it.

So basically, after you select a girl, she comes to your couch and you make small talk for like 5-10 minutes, then the music comes up and the lights go off. You have a about 5-8 minutes of free time to make out and touch above the waist. After that the lights come back up (it still is pretty dark in there) and there's some serious unintentional comedy when they play some Aaron Neville gospel song.

Here's where there's some discrepancies form my last trip:

When I was there like 6 months ago, as soon as the lights went out, the girls would auto hop on your lap and take their top off. As someone who lives in the US this is just a better version of a strip club, the lap dances aren't great (although some girls did grind a bit) , but you can touch (unlike some US clubs) , and the 3000 tip is actually a lot less than what you pay in the US.

So I went there a few nights ago, and the system is still the same, but oddly enough, right when I got there some girl sat down at my couch (I sat down right after the selection had happened). So we're making small talk, and the lights go down and she's still talking to me. I'm thinking it must be because I didn't pick her, but I asked her to stay for another because she was cute. So the next time the lights go down, she asks if I want to make out, and I tell her not really, and was expecting her to hop on top and take off her top. But she just kept talking. So I asked her how long she's been working there, and she said it was her first night. I don't know if she was lying, but because it looked like she didn't know what to do, it seemed pretty believable. Anyway, I spent more time with her and it was a more of a GFE type thing (I did eventually get her to hop on top and get working). I had the same experience with a few other girls who all seemed to just start a few days ago.

Not that the other time wasn't GFE, but this time the girls seemed a little more personable. Most of the girls there are in their low 20's. And even if they are lying about that, they are definitely close to that range. I wouldn't rate them as a supermodel type, but mostly I'd say they are above average looking. There's always a few exceptions on both sides.

I am supposed to meet up with the first girl later on. I'm not really sure how it is going to go down, but someone mentioned that you can ask them for a p4p kind of thing. I'm pretty sure that's not what this girl had in mind, and I'm cool with buying her lunch to hang out and see. If something comes of it, I'll update later.

One question for the forum, I passed a few because-play shops. Are they usually gaijin friendly? What goes on in there, is it just touching?

Thanks

There were some SWs standing along the entrance of Shinagawa Prince Hotel, when one is entering from the station side. It was around 10pm and one of them came up and asked me in broken English "Do you want some massage or company?" Due to someone being in my room already, I could not partake her services, but thought I pass this intelligence to the other members here.Good luck.

[QUOTE=Fac50; 1110745]Hi all.

I don't think this is new info, but maybe it will help someone, so here's my update, sorry if it is long. I went to Princess and finally get the pricing system. It's about 4000-5000 per hour for the shop, and a 3000 'tip' for each girl that you select. Each session is about 15-20 minutes. Drinks are pretty cheap there compared to a kabakura. You can reserve the girl for a slightly higher fee.

I'm not sure if you need to speak Japanese to get in the door, but you're going to at least need to know numbers as that's how you select the girl from the stage. And I'm talking about numbers 1-99, don't just study up to 10. And you're going to need to say it fast cause the selection only lasts about 1 min.

I went there 6 months ago, with no intention of doing anything but touching. Literally, the girls walk up to the stage from the couch that they were making out with some other guy with and go for re-selection. It was a little too much for me. But I was down with the touching part of it.

So basically, after you select a girl, she comes to your couch and you make small talk for like 5-10 minutes, then the music comes up and the lights go off. You have a about 5-8 minutes of free time to make out and touch above the waist. After that the lights come back up (it still is pretty dark in there) and there's some serious unintentional comedy when they play some Aaron Neville gospel song.

Here's where there's some discrepancies form my last trip:

When I was there like 6 months ago, as soon as the lights went out, the girls would auto hop on your lap and take their top off. As someone who lives in the US this is just a better version of a strip club, the lap dances aren't great (although some girls did grind a bit) , but you can touch (unlike some US clubs) , and the 3000 tip is actually a lot less than what you pay in the US.

So I went there a few nights ago, and the system is still the same, but oddly enough, right when I got there some girl sat down at my couch (I sat down right after the selection had happened). So we're making small talk, and the lights go down and she's still talking to me. I'm thinking it must be because I didn't pick her, but I asked her to stay for another because she was cute. So the next time the lights go down, she asks if I want to make out, and I tell her not really, and was expecting her to hop on top and take off her top. But she just kept talking. So I asked her how long she's been working there, and she said it was her first night. I don't know if she was lying, but because it looked like she didn't know what to do, it seemed pretty believable. Anyway, I spent more time with her and it was a more of a GFE type thing (I did eventually get her to hop on top and get working). I had the same experience with a few other girls who all seemed to just start a few days ago.

Not that the other time wasn't GFE, but this time the girls seemed a little more personable. Most of the girls there are in their low 20's. And even if they are lying about that, they are definitely close to that range. I wouldn't rate them as a supermodel type, but mostly I'd say they are above average looking. There's always a few exceptions on both sides.

I am supposed to meet up with the first girl later on. I'm not really sure how it is going to go down, but someone mentioned that you can ask them for a p4p kind of thing. I'm pretty sure that's not what this girl had in mind, and I'm cool with buying her lunch to hang out and see. If something comes of it, I'll update later.

One question for the forum, I passed a few because-play shops. Are they usually gaijin friendly? What goes on in there, is it just touching?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi, Can you remind us where it is?

I went to a simnlar place in Kabukicho some years back, I think they call it an Oppai bar.

System was quite similar: you select the girl, she comes to you, first song, she sits on your lap, clothes on, and good kissing, second song, top off, lots of touching and DFK. Most enjoyable.

But what you desribe seems to be far less exciting, since my talking japanese abilities are limited, and I don't come to those places for small tlk, nor with the hope to hook up. BTW, they were gaijin friendly.

It had been a while for doing it up in Ueno so went with the intention of hitting the new 10K special at Ueno Body Clinic. Along the way, the normal touts though one guy who's shop was 4, 000 Yen for 30 min and showed me a pic of some nice girls on his phone. Anyway, went to check it out and found-out that it was Chip-In Pink Salon ([url]http://roguinn.fu8.jp/main.html[/url]) which I had been to years back and had a crappy experience. Guy says it's new management and tells me 4, 000 all-in (they advertise 6, 000 Yen). He also said I could change the girl once if I wasn't happy so thought I would give it a try.

Anyway, brought to the back and a beastly older woman comes out in nurse's outfit. Ouch! Decided to shoo her away though not before she said that there were no changes. Wasn't expecting anything much better after that, though Makoto later came out and was quite cute in her mid-20s. Nice surprise. Before we started she showed me a list of options (5, 000 Yen-25, 000 Yen) which I said I didn't need. She then asked for a 5, 000 Yen tip in advance to do basically anything, ended up giving her 2, 000 Yen. She stood over my head and had me run a vibrator between her legs while she proceeded with a very nice BJ. Plenty of touching though she didn't actually completely disrobe at any time. Would go back and see what better tip might get me.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1110812]Hi, Can you remind us where it is?

I went to a simnlar place in Kabukicho some years back, I think they call it an Oppai bar.

System was quite similar: you select the girl, she comes to you, first song, she sits on your lap, clothes on, and good kissing, second song, top off, lots of touching and DFK. Most enjoyable.

But what you desribe seems to be far less exciting, since my talking japanese abilities are limited, and I don't come to those places for small tlk, nor with the hope to hook up. BTW, they were gaijin friendly. [/QUOTE]Regarding the location, they guy from the anaijo walked me there both times. I remember thinking that it seemed like a long walk from where I started (pretty much central kabukicho). I can tell you that it's on the 10th floor. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

The first time I went there I asked to be taken to a 'lingerie pub' (got the term from this site).

I also had previously asked to go to an oppai bar and was taken to something that was more like what you described. It was a bunch of chicks in school girl outfits that rotate tables kabakura style and you can make out with them or touch them. The music is really too loud to talk and no one is trying to. This one was a lot cheaper, but although the girls were all Japanese, none of them were what I would consider to be attractive.

The anaijo guy told them on the phone (when he was calling to discuss his commission) that I'd been there before but I was a gaijin. It probably helped to have him give the introduction, but I don't know.

I had Miki the other day for the 1 hour hot oil massage. She has a very friendly personality, and puts on a good show without overfaking it.

I will say the ball play was a little rough at times. Maybe just be ready for it.

As always. Thanks to everyone for your advice, it has always been helpful.

I'm still relatively new to the p4p and not fully comfortable yet. You can do a search on my posts for the backstory on that.

I'll try to give some brief info on my situation:

Anyway, I feel like the girl I met from princess meets my requirement that I'm attracted to her, she at least has me believing that she's interested, and (again) she at least has me believing that she's in the relatively low (er) risk STD category. Believing is key for me even if the truth is different.

She knows I'm leaving town on Friday and wanted to meet my for lunch before I left (she works nights). If this was a kabakura girl, I know it's just paying to be with her. My question is, since this girl works at a more questionable type place, is it possible to negotiate p4p with her? Or even close the deal as a non p4p? Or is this just a free lunch?

When we were talking at the club, she told me her other job was a 'waitress at a kabakura in roppoingi'. I'm assuming based on where we were when we were talking, if she was a sex worker, she would have just told me at that point and tried to meet up when the club closed. (As an aside, I'm not sure why she'd be a waitress and not a hostess. It probably pays better and has to be better than working at princess).

So any thoughts on what strategy I should use? Since I've already made out with her (I was a little surprised I crossed that line) and felt her up, do I still have to start all over and go nampa since we're not at that club? If she's not a sex worker, and I bring up price, would that kill the mood? I'm guessing the best thing to do is use some of the nampa techniques like go to lunch at one of those private room places and try to be flirty and see where she goes with it.

Sorry for being a rookie, this is definitely not my strong suit. Hopefully at the worse it can provide some comedy for the forum.

[QUOTE=Fac50; 1111108]As always. Thanks to everyone for your advice, it has always been helpful.I'm still relatively new to the p4p and not fully comfortable yet. You can do a search on my posts for the backstory on that.I'll try to give some brief info on my situation:Anyway, I feel like the girl I met from princess meets my requirement that I'm attracted to her, she at least has me believing that she's interested, and (again) she at least has me believing that she's in the relatively low (er) risk STD category. Believing is key for me even if the truth is different.She knows I'm leaving town on Friday and wanted to meet my for lunch before I left (she works nights). If this was a kabakura girl, I know it's just paying to be with her. My question is, since this girl works at a more questionable type place, is it possible to negotiate p4p with her? Or even close the deal as a non p4p? Or is this just a free lunch? When we were talking at the club, she told me her other job was a 'waitress at a kabakura in roppoingi'. I'm assuming based on where we were when we were talking, if she was a sex worker, she would have just told me at that point and tried to meet up when the club closed. (As an aside, I'm not sure why she'd be a waitress and not a hostess. It probably pays better and has to be better than working at princess).So any thoughts on what strategy I should use? Since I've already made out with her (I was a little surprised I crossed that line) and felt her up, do I still have to start all over and go nampa since we're not at that club? If she's not a sex worker, and I bring up price, would that kill the mood? I'm guessing the best thing to do is use some of the nampa techniques like go to lunch at one of those private room places and try to be flirty and see where she goes with it.Sorry for being a rookie, this is definitely not my strong suit. Hopefully at the worse it can provide some comedy for the forum.[/QUOTE]I'm no expert in dealing with this either, but my suggestion (and approach if I were in your situation) would first to clearly decide what you want, and know what you want out of this encounter. After that, it's all up to how you want to go from there. I wish I could help more but that's all I can think of. Also, I still have no idea what Pink I Land.[url]http://roppongi.bodyspa.jp/[/url]Is. Has someone gone here before or has read through the website? My Japanese is poor so yeah.