Berlin

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2365422]Today, the scene in Berlin for average monger without a lot of money is greatly reduced. I have tried Artemis but find it terribly overpriced. Insomnia is not what it used to be either. The Hausmadchen today are unwilling to get down and dirt with guests like they once used to.[/QUOTE]As I were considering going to Berlin (for mongering) I did consider other european cities. I was recommended to go to Berlin, Frankfurt or Dusseldorf instead of other European cities. I had tried Prag and Tallinn earlier, but that was also not for the "monger without a lot of money". Anyway, I decided to go to Berlin. Upon doing my research (here, in this forum, and elsewhere) I realized that it is quite expensive (more than I expected). But it is as it is. Good service with good looking girls seems to be expensive. As I am now going to Berlin in a few days I still hope to find some cheap girls; quite good looking and that could give a good service. But maybe that is only my hopes and will never happen. The only option for getting it is the street walkers. But I haven't got a clue about that scene. Maybe all girls are badly looking, drug addicts and give you bad service. Well, I will see when I get there.

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2365422] They will take you to the LSD cinema complex where you get a booth. If you negotiate you can get a BJ for 20. I talked to a twenty-something Hungarian petite girl with what looked like perky boobs. Hast du Lust? I declined. Never know what you see an pick up around here. Better to play it safe.[/QUOTE]So, if I find a street walker they want to go to this "LSD cinema complex". What is that? Is it safe? Is it possible to get the girls to your hotel? Sorry for all the questions from a novice.

[QUOTE=RoamingViking;2365422]I make weekly trip to go to the EW which still has some nice girls, depending on the night. There is a new nightclub of sorts downstairs but have no idea what kind of place it is.[/QUOTE]What is EW?

Any recommendations for a 50+ year old, also a bit tired, that is visiting Berlin?

[QUOTE=Svenne50;2365454]As I were considering going to Berlin (for mongering) I did consider other european cities. I was recommended to go to Berlin, Frankfurt or Dusseldorf instead of other European cities. I had tried Prag and Tallinn earlier, but that was also not for the "monger without a lot of money". Anyway, I decided to go to Berlin. Upon doing my research (here, in this forum, and elsewhere) I realized that it is quite expensive (more than I expected). But it is as it is. Good service with good looking girls seems to be expensive. As I am now going to Berlin in a few days I still hope to find some cheap girls; quite good looking and that could give a good service. But maybe that is only my hopes and will never happen. The only option for getting it is the street walkers. But I haven't got a clue about that scene. Maybe all girls are badly looking, drug addicts and give you bad service. Well, I will see when I get there.

So, if I find a street walker they want to go to this "LSD cinema complex". What is that? Is it safe? Is it possible to get the girls to your hotel? Sorry for all the questions from a novice.

What is EW?

Any recommendations for a 50+ year old, also a bit tired, that is visiting Berlin?[/QUOTE]If you haven't been to any FKK, just go to Artemis!

Don't waste your time in any Berlin brothel, unless you want to spend 200+ and need more time in the room ( 30 min).

You don't have to worry about game or pick ups at Artemis.

There will be tons of hot women walking around nude and you will get to pick which one you want to bang with no effort other than a simple Hi.

You can eat in the restaurant, dip in the pool, and sit in the sauna.

You'll walk out feeling like 1 milllion bucks.

EW stands for "Erlebniswohnung" - a gangbang club just like "Anni-Porsche".

[URL]https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.anni-porsche.de/[/URL]

Several girls try to satisfy several men at once in shifts. Sometimes it feels like rush hour, sometimes not.

Feeling safe with street girls in the video booth of LSD. Well, up to you. Girls are conditioned to get money, one way or the other. At least the booth are not comfortable. The street scene has apartments and hotels nearby. The girls will guide you. Usually no hotel in Berlin will make a fuss, when you receive guests- when all is decent and discreet (i.e. no half naked drunk picked up in the lobby). Reception will look the other way.

LSD Cinema. Checkout UBahnhof Kurfuerstenstrasse in Google streetview, then you know, what to expect. A Sexshop with Video Rental and Video View area with booths.

Soon I will be on my way and stop annoying the forum with all kinds of questions. Well, maybe you will find the good side of this when I return with lots of reviews for you. I hope so.

I've been reading about Strip clubs, like Cleopatra, Angels and so on. I have a bit trouble understanding the concept. Is the concept that you pay an entrance fee and pay for overpriced drinks. And watch the strip? The question I ask; why go to a strip bar when you could, of course for a larger entrance fee, go to other places like Caligula, Artemis. I guess the concept is to earn money by overpriced drinks. It also seem like you often get ripped off at the places; end up with a large bill of hundreds of euros and a big guard telling you to pay. Is it possible to go to a strip club / bar, pay the entrance fee and get one (1) cocktail and just watch the show. Or are they eager to upsell you (and you always end up with a large bill). I'm having this picture of a sleazy place, run by the mafia, and you will get beaten if you don't pay a couple of hundred euros.

Yes, you could say. If you are so anxious don't go. But still I would like to hear more about places like this.

Thanks in advance for your input in this matter.

[QUOTE=Piefke;2365622]EW stands for "Erlebniswohnung" - a gangbang club just like "Anni-Porsche".
Feeling safe with street girls in the video booth of LSD. Well, up to you. Girls are conditioned to get money, one way or the other. At least the booth are not comfortable. The street scene has apartments and hotels nearby. The girls will guide you. Usually no hotel in Berlin will make a fuss, when you receive guests- when all is decent and discreet (i.e. no half naked drunk picked up in the lobby). Reception will look the other way.[/QUOTE]Would you, who are far more experienced with this than I am, ever go and have a street girl? Or do you find Artemis (and other places) a better and more price worthy hunting ground?

[QUOTE=Svenne50;2364187]Berlin planning.

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Any input on Liberty, Prestige, Carena, Karlsruherstr and van Kampen?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?775-Germany-Brothels[/URL]

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Any recommendations for a 50+ year old, also a bit tired, that is visiting Berlin?[/QUOTE]If you are "a bit tired" (like me), I do NOT recommend FKK, sauna clubs as Artemis.

For me, FKK and sauna clubs are interesting if.

1) you / me are "strong" enough to have many "sessions" on a day (because of the entrance fees).

2) the place is beautiful (for example yinyang (in NL) that I imagined "Manderley" could look like: "watch the full video" [URL]http://yinyang.nl[/URL]) : Artemis didn't (doesn't?) have any gardens or outdoors with trees and grass (I remember a young lady propose me to have sex outdoors at YinYang because all the rooms were busy!

Hi, OK so in Berlin there are not many quality venues left. Check the berlinintim. De website for the latest info.

I personally still like the EW—Erlebniswohnung (check their website) and AP-Annie Porsche (they too had a website but are relocating) as I write. Both places are a shadow of their former selves, unfortunately, but are still worth a visit. At the latter the pace is more relaxed and it is possible to get to know the girls a bit. But I speak German so at EW I know some of the people really well by now. Airport Girls has some pretty girls but the service is mechanical and rushed. Artemis has pretty girls but you will spend 200 euros or so very easily. It is 80 euros, I think, just to get in the door and then you shell out another 100 or so for 30 minutes of mostly covered pleasure. Caligula is no longer of any interest to me, ditto for King George. You might also try the Sexkinos, for example the one in the Sprengelstrasse or the one in the Kaiserin Augusta allee. Once you get to know the girls—a very few of whom are quite delectable-- they will loosen up and provide better service. As for the street girls in the Kurfurstenstrasse you go to a nearby short time hotel / apartment or do the act in one of the booths at the LSD sex shop. If you come by car, you have the option of going to an alley somewhere or to a parking garage. Always negotiate. But I'the be careful. The girls are rather dodgy if you know what I mean. I have never indulged, I only look around a bit on my way home and maybe chat a bit.

Glad I could help and good luck.

[QUOTE=Svenne50;2365851]Soon I will be on my way and stop annoying the forum with all kinds of questions. Well, maybe you will find the good side of this when I return with lots of reviews for you. I hope so.[/QUOTE]I'll believe it, when I read them. Less announcing, more writing.

[QUOTE=Svenne50;2365851]Is the concept that you pay an entrance fee and pay for overpriced drinks. And watch the strip? The question I ask; why go to a strip bar when you could, of course for a larger entrance fee, go to other places like Caligula, Artemis. I guess the concept is to earn money by overpriced drinks. It also seem like you often get ripped off at the places; end up with a large bill of hundreds of euros and a big guard telling you to pay. Is it possible to go to a strip club / bar, pay the entrance fee and get one (1) cocktail and just watch the show. Or are they eager to upsell you (and you always end up with a large bill). I'm having this picture of a sleazy place, run by the mafia, and you will get beaten if you don't pay a couple of hundred euros.[/QUOTE]Yes, then concept is to pay for entertainment: Look, but not touch. Nothing for action-oriented sex addicts.

They make their money by inviting you to pay overprized drinks for the ladies.

But nethertheless, you can go there, pay the entrance fee, get one beer, see the show (rotating girls doing striptease). The girls will invite you for discussion (buy them a Picollo for a much larger sum than in the "Spaeti" late-nigth shop), ask for a strip-dollar as token of apprecitation for their art (buy at the bar) or for a lap-dance behind the stage (about the same money as a rump in a bordello) or even more private time somewhere "I am an artist, not a prostitute, but you are such a cute guy with much money, that I forget my limits. You give me the money, do you?

Overall, you can go there, drink a beer, watch the show, avoid the girls ("later maybe") and they will forget about you and serve other guests. They know such guests all the time. Nobody forces you to spent your money. In the end it is repeatingly boring to sit there alone. But you can cross this visit off your list. No harm done.

[QUOTE=Svenne50;2365852]Would you, who are far more experienced with this than I am, ever go and have a street girl? Or do you find Artemis (and other places) a better and more price worthy hunting ground?[/QUOTE]I do not know, if I am more experienced than you. But thanks for not mentioning my age!

I am not into street girls nor Artemis. I formyself do not need the adrenalin to haggle with rough street girls from Romania or somewhere else. And Artemis is too large and probably too expensive for me. Think of kid in the candy store. I care for friendly MILFs in small apartments or massage salons. Nice meeting for a known sum of money for one hour. No / not much upselling. Satisfying entertainment without rushing, sometimes even without pentration (think massage with hand relief).

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Any recommendations for a 50+ year old, also a bit tired, that is visiting Berlin?[/QUOTE]Wow I wish I was 50 again!

Still I suggest two things. Go find a great massage place with happy ending. There are several reviewed here and many advertised on Berlin intim. De. The advantage is that you don't work, a good massage with full body rub and a great pair of boobs in your face can really revive you. I'm sure there are bad ones but do research (Lusthaus website has 'by the girl' reviews for many clubs- wish people put more here!) Personally if money weren't a big issue I'd recommend a tantra place if you can get into a sort of "delay" slow session. The best of these providers can keep you on the edge for a long time AND you just lie there and let them do all the work?

Then again “bang for the buck esp time-wise”. Private ladies provide a nice service, you can chat, relax etc. Bring your own drinks. Lots of reviews here over the years of some favorites. If you are not so focused on 20 somethings, many MILFs really appreciate a nice older guy and go out of their way to make you feel special. I've had ladies want me to stay just to chat afterwards.

[QUOTE=Piefke;2366020]I do not know, if I am more experienced than you. But thanks for not mentioning my age!

I am not into street girls nor Artemis. I formyself do not need the adrenalin to haggle with rough street girls from Romania or somewhere else. And Artemis is too large and probably too expensive for me. Think of kid in the candy store. I care for friendly MILFs in small apartments or massage salons. Nice meeting for a known sum of money for one hour. No / not much upselling. Satisfying entertainment without rushing, sometimes even without pentration (think massage with hand relief).[/QUOTE]Well, I could not say that I am into street girls and Artemis either. I haven't tried them yet. But I have them on my bucket list, so I will give it a shot. I find girls in 30-45's more attractive than some silicon girls in their 20's. But I do not like fat ladies and all older (40 years old) I have found are either too expensive or a bit fat. But I keep on searching but it is giving me a hard time since I don't understand German (and google translate is a bugger sometimes).

Massage I absolutely an option I have considered. Last night I was trying to find some good massage place but again a bit hard since I don't understand German. A total dream would be to find a massage place with an happy ending in form of a BJ. But that might not even exist.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2366220]Wow I wish I was 50 again!

Still I suggest two things. Go find a great massage place with happy ending. There are several reviewed here and many advertised on Berlin intim. De. The advantage is that you don't work, a good massage with full body rub and a great pair of boobs in your face can really revive you. I'm sure there are bad ones but do research (Lusthaus website has 'by the girl' reviews for many clubs- wish people put more here!)[/QUOTE]I will follow your advice and have considered it already. Yes, I had found the Lusthaus website but that site doesn't work with the translate button in Chrome. So it is a real time consumer trying to understand the reviews.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2366220]Then again bang for the buck esp time-wise. Private ladies provide a nice service, you can chat, relax etc. Bring your own drinks. Lots of reviews here over the years of some favorites. If you are not so focused on 20 somethings, many MILFs really appreciate a nice older guy and go out of their way to make you feel special. I've had ladies want me to stay just to chat afterwards.[/QUOTE]I guess I have to go through the forum again to find these gems. I'm surely not focused on 20's. MILFs would more be my cup of tea. Thanks for the advice!

[QUOTE=Svenne50;2366272]Yes, I had found the Lusthaus website but that site doesn't work with the translate button in Chrome. So it is a real time consumer trying to understand the reviews.[/QUOTE]You might try and use [URL]HTTPS://translate.google.com[/URL] directly. Just enter and "translate" the link of the site, than click in the translated link, the site will open inside Google. You can even navigate.

Massage with BJ: search for Nataszka. Private flat near Spandau, massage only, some touching, no fingering, but BJ at the end. Described as very pretty and friendly. Have no own experience.

[URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/Nataszka19[/URL]

[URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?t=194445[/URL]

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Massage I absolutely an option I have considered. Last night I was trying to find some good massage place but again a bit hard since I don't understand German. A total dream would be to find a massage place with an happy ending in form of a BJ. But that might not even exist.[/QUOTE]OK Pierfke to the rescue on language. On the massage, there are several ways to think about this. It is UNLIKELY, that any place that advertises itself as a Massage Salon or even Tantric Massage place will offer BJ, these places are in the HJ business and have women who really try and make the experience special with other tricks. Repeat visitors might get more, but it is doubtful you have the time in Berlin needed to "learn the ropes". BUT it seems to me almost all the independent girls offer massage. Many offer various types of massage: my experience is that if they only offer Oilmassage (lmassage) and B2B, their massage skills are weak and they are just going through the motions. You need to look for "health" "wellness" or Tantric and see if they also offer OV (Oral service). If you take a look at a pro like Kyra-Kim [URL]https://www.kyra-kim.de/index.php/service[/URL] who is older you can see (after translation) that she offers any combination of services. Between someone like K-K and Nataszka (Piefke mentioned) there exists more than any one man can visit in a lifetime.

I am very much like you, I like a great massage, a healthy, physically fit lady, who knows how to make my sex organs do somersaults while I lie there and just moan. (OK. I admit it, many days, I'm a lazy hedonist). Again the advantage of the escort who is good at massage is that if you change your mind and say, let's finish this with GV (full sex), there's a price.

There's a woman on massagerepublic called Lila Bee, who starts at about 100 E an hour for basic services and then you add what you want, but at some point you'll pay more than a full time escort. Again, she might start out at a higher rate than many escorts as she claims to be a great massseuse. [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-berlin/lila-bee?q%5Bservices_include_all%5D%5B%5D=37[/URL].

Places that offer body massage without any oral and have lots of reviews are Kashima (tantric but you can't chose your lady), Paris 5 and their sister business (again, lots of reviews on Lusthaus). Paris lists who is working at what hours and you go and see who is available. Can't remember how you book if you want a specific lady, possibly with What's App direct. Lots of ladies request you use What's App for communication. Berlin Intim- an advertising website- ([URL]https://www.berlinintim.com/erotikmassage-berlin.html[/URL]) has a page of the massage parlors and in the upper right, you can turn on English. BUT AGAIN, most of this is HJ ending.

FINALLY, many of the FKKs in Germany have actual 'spa' massage rooms with professional (often male) masseuses) if you need a lower back pick me up after too much regular sex.