Berlin

[QUOTE=Zeeker100;2441344]Is there any action at Kurfrstenstrae these days, with the quarantine?[/QUOTE]You know it man, the herd is out there building up their antibodies.

There is even a video out that shows the current scene: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH96BsL1R3U[/URL].

Out of curiosity, in which forum are people posting their experiences using seeking arrangement Berlin?

[QUOTE=Frank11;2444194]Out of curiosity, in which forum are people posting their experiences using seeking arrangement Berlin?[/QUOTE]There are some discussions here, but that thread is world wide. :

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements[/URL]

This thread (Berlin) could fit for experiences in Berlin (I have some) and if volume is bigger, we could ask for a new thread.

Other forums for the discussion, I don't know of.

[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2444200]This thread (Berlin) could fit for experiences in Berlin (I have some) and if volume is bigger, we could ask for a new thread.[/QUOTE]If you read every day, more and more research is coming out that we have barely a handle on how this virus spreads without symptoms. The latest is it could be up to 50% and the actual reach between those with and without could be as much as 50+ times higher. Your read that number right. For those inclined search Stanford University Santa Clara study of 3000+people tested at random. Was just released in past day or so. Yes only one study. But it shows how we still do not have a handle on this. In Berlin, this past week, the still relatively low number of deaths doubled. In 1 week.

You put us all at risk, especially girls who may be stretched financially and as I posted earlier, you are getting involved with a far from random, riskier pool. I think in 1-2 months things will be more under control between more data, more testing, etc. Not perfect but safer.

You are simply deluding yourself if you think because you feel good, and girl feels good, seems healthy, all is tolerable. This is not like an HIV AO deal. Be a real man and tough out a few more weeks. Anything else is both Russian roulette with several bullets and willful ignorance. Just keep it zipped.

[QUOTE=BoneRanger69;2444254]If you read every day, more and more research is coming out that we have barely a handle on how this virus spreads without symptoms. The latest is it could be up to 50% and the actual reach between those with and without could be as much as 50+ times higher. Your read that number right. For those inclined search Stanford University Santa Clara study of 3000+people tested at random. Was just released in past day or so. Yes only one study. But it shows how we still do not have a handle on this. In Berlin, this past week, the still relatively low number of deaths doubled. In 1 week.

You put us all at risk, especially girls who may be stretched financially and as I posted earlier, you are getting involved with a far from random, riskier pool. I think in 1-2 months things will be more under control between more data, more testing, etc. Not perfect but safer.

You are simply deluding yourself if you think because you feel good, and girl feels good, seems healthy, all is tolerable. This is not like an HIV AO deal. Be a real man and tough out a few more weeks. Anything else is both Russian roulette with several bullets and willful ignorance. Just keep it zipped.[/QUOTE]My answer was about discussing experiences using [URL]Seeking.com[/URL], nothing else. So, I don't understand where this post came from, accusing me for stuff?!

There is a separate thread, if you like to discuss the Corona virus.

[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2444271]My answer was about discussing experiences using [URL]Seeking.com[/URL], nothing else. So, I don't understand where this post came from, accusing me for stuff?[/QUOTE]Sorry but you mentioned in your post that 1. This thread could discuss such experiences and 2. You have some relevant experiences to discuss.

Either way it seems like gently encouraging P4P in Berlin which is exactly what we do not need right now. I miss all my favorites and the scene, but it is just not the time. So fine with me if you want to take it elsewhere.

I have no intention of dating during the Corona crisis. My previous post stated that I wanted to read about seeking arrangement in Berlin out of curiosity. Curiosity means for research or information particularly in the seeking scene before the Corona. I think most people are not interested in dating at the moment and they could possibly risk receiving a fine from authorities for socializing.

what were the Berlin girls at seeking asking for before the coronavirus crisis? I think a local in Berlin can get a date for a few hours for 150 to 200 Euros, not using seeking. The same goes for Montreal locals get a good (non seeking) few hours for 300 CAD. How does this compare to seeking rates?

Bone if you want to remind people to adhere to social distancing by all means do it. But how about doing it without offending others? I agree it is a bad time to date.

Will harrassing Forum members for making informative posts help? That will practically discourage everyone from posting anything and the forum will become a ghost town. People have already suggested they feel bothered by your post without any evidence to justify this. Social distancing does not prohibit Forum post. Most people have already had enough girlfriends to be happy for a lifetime most people don't have the need to go out and risk their health at the moment. Better to wait for a vaccine or a medical treatment to be developed. Wait for restrictions to be lifted.

[QUOTE=BoneRanger69;2444276]Sorry but you mentioned in your post that 1. This thread could discuss such experiences and 2. You have some relevant experiences to discuss.

Either way it seems like gently encouraging P4P in Berlin which is exactly what we do not need right now. I miss all my favorites and the scene, but it is just not the time. So fine with me if you want to take it elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Discussing in a forum doesn't spread any virus, does it? I am not encouraging anything at all. You are reading things that aren't there. Now is an excellent time to discuss P4 P, as this is the only thing we can do.

When is comes to sugardating, it is a bit of work to do, to weed out the girls to meet. That can also be done now and set up for meeting later, when the situation permits that.

If you cannot handle other discussing the scene at all, you are free to stop reading in the forum.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2444338]what were the Berlin girls at seeking asking for before the coronavirus crisis? I think a local in Berlin can get a date for a few hours for 150 to 200 Euros, not using seeking. The same goes for Montreal locals get a good (non seeking) few hours for 300 CAD. How does this compare to seeking rates?

[/QUOTE]There are no fixed rates, it can vary a lot in my opinion. I have paid between 300-500€ for an evening, with dinner, drinks and sex at the end. I have also been suggested meetings föare 1000-1500 €, which I politely declined.

The girls I have met in Berlin via Seeking, have all been lovely girls that are stunning and had made my evening really memorable.

"Backside" of Berlin, is that there are som many options for P4 P and I use to have so little time to spend.

Be safe!

[QUOTE=BlueSwede;2444434]There are no fixed rates, it can vary a lot in my opinion. I have paid between 300-500 for an evening, with dinner, drinks and sex at the end. I have also been suggested meetings fare 1000-1500 , which I politely declined.

The girls I have met in Berlin via Seeking, have all been lovely girls that are stunning and had made my evening really memorable.

"Backside" of Berlin, is that there are som many options for P4 P and I use to have so little time to spend.

Be safe![/QUOTE]That is good information. At 200-500 and evening, there is room for negotiation So everyone can be happy.I've read reports that even in the USA some girls are looking only for 200. A lot of the women work really hard for their money. They deserve it. Remember to remember, And abide by the Virus rules. Bye.

Of course, not everyone is looking to work. Actually Before I say goodbye I will share a good story. Once I gave my left hand 2500 for a fine lovely evening of red-hot loving. And my left hand was so nice and Since we share the same Wallet she said I could just keep the money in my Wallet. Later my left hand confessed she actually wanted 3500 instead of 2500. But my left hand told me she was so nice she liked me so much that she only charged 2500 for her loving. I'm so lucky. **love** *Red heart emoticon* Thank you baby.

[QUOTE=Frank11;2444338]The same goes for Montreal locals get a good (non seeking) few hours for 300 CAD. How does this compare to seeking rates?[/QUOTE]Where did you get this information from? What did you mean by 'non-seeking'? You mean escort ladies? I confused with your statement. Where would you get the non-seeking one for 300 CAD? 300 per hour, per evening, or per date?

[QUOTE=SinglePro;2445008]Where did you get this information from? What did you mean by 'non-seeking'? You mean escort ladies? I confused with your statement. Where would you get the non-seeking one for 300 CAD? 300 per hour, per evening, or per date?[/QUOTE]Yes you can get an evening with a local escort that includes two, three, or more hours for 300 cad in Montreal. Prices for " locals" are usually lower. You can be a local even if you live somewhere else. If you can't get to Montral and be a local, then You can always be local in the city where you Live.

Local means:

You can communicate with the escort in a mutual language.

You are a repeat customer.

Which means you are in the city for a longer while.

You are not a weirdo that scares people off. If you are a weirdo which means you have poor communication skills or emotional intelligence that needs to be improved they will just try to do their job and then leave.

Locals don't smell bad.

You can create a safe fun comfortable environment for the two of you to spend time. She has to want to stay because it will be easy! Get paid just to talk and listen to music.

It helps if you are a loyal customer that keeps calling the same girl back again.

Prove to her that she is getting almost all your budget.

It helps if the woman doesn't have a steady job or somewhere to go the next morning. If she's busy in the morning she can't stay late.

And sometimes you have to try to find the right kind of woman that has the right kind of business mentality. You have to do with honesty and trust.

Obviously you need to do business directly with the women because it doesn't help if someone else is taking a cut of her money.

If she gives you everything you desire and she deserves her money then give her more.

In the beginning you will have to pay higher prices but if you keep coming back you will be able to negotiate for the best prices.

Look at it this way she will still be getting 1000 for 4 hours except that she won't be getting 1000 the same day she actually has to come to see you several days. But she knows she is the only one and she knows she will get the money.

This will not work with all the women so be patient and find the right one. Also some customers are not interested in socializing and they just want a small quick hour.

It's about building strong business ties with other people. You have to become friends with her through business. Not real life friends. But still friends. It's not about easy money.

And you have to be smart about business. Put her earnings into perspective. Just think about it. Let's say a professional makes 5 thousand Euros in a month. Since that professional works weekends and pays taxes he won't be making more than 250 in an 8 hour work day. So if a software engineer makes less than 250 in a day do you really believe an escort that says she makes 1000 for a 4 hour date? Hey if she does congratulations because a lot of hard-working government officials are not making that much. Would you like to be the guy that pays 1000 for 4 hours? After one date would that guy really be happy? Would you really like to charge your customers that much? Would you feel bad if they were paying you that much? A girl may be great looking and have an awesome personality but if she is charging me $1,000 for 4 hours well unfortunately for me I don't find that very attractive. Sad but true.

I met her in November and December last year. Was a nice GFE. She is cute, nice body and her booty is hot as hell!

As far as I know she still makes dates. But its hard to get a appointment. She works regularly, even at corona.

Her profile on kaufmich is [URL]https://www.kaufmich.com/Devote-Kimi[/URL].

Good luck.

The portal websites in Berlin are still full of adverts of working girls and not all will be baits from the 'Gesundheitsamt'.

So what is so special on Veronicaxwild to mention her extra, as you met her 10 month ago and she seem to still working? Working so busy, that nobody can get appointments.

Interesting side information from a german forum: some girls from the closed down, locked down Artemis seem to work in home office now and use similar price menus, I. E. 150 E / h as base and every single, simple extra (kissing, suck, lick, touch) a 50 Euro on top.

But it is only hear-say from the internet.