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RE: SoaplandsIs FS a given at all Soaplands? I was under the impression that sex for money is prohibited in Japanese establishments. Does the price matter? I know most Soaps are quite expensive so I never go for it. But I know a few that offer services for less than 30,000 total and wouldn't mind stopping in if FS is guaranteed.Any input?

viagrant,glad to be of service.homer,are you doing legal research? my friend, i believe that the material point here is quality of service and price, not the economic-legal framework, unless, of course, it should impact quality of service and price.the esute are cheaper, lower rent establishments and offer exotic treats from korea or china--choose the former for quality the later for adventure. table shower are available in some not others.the fashion healths are a slightly different atmosphere with a japanese staff and much less common than esute. they will often times have more varied [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url], with throne of pleasure, soapie mat, etc.my choice depends on what flavor of oriental i am in the mood for (a moot point if you don't speak chinese, japanese or korean).of course a good chinese esute which provides fs and is around the corner from your house is best.i also find that fixtures are not always the same, either, two esutes will have same prices same service but one will have table shower for body shampoo, one won't. same with healths, the plumbing is not always the same.in winter and summer ac is also an important consideration.finally, the beds, walls, doors, etc., vary considerably.i guess you just have to shop around to find the place with service, attendants and accoutrements most to your taste.

It's still difficult to find a gal who takes cum in the mouth. Only did it once and it cost me about 15k! Is it the market price?By the way, any tips to get girls who swallow? :)Thanks

CJWood,Thanks for the response. The economic-legal framework is important only if you're looking for the most bang for the buck while trying to stay out of trouble. I think it does impact quality of service and price, to a certain extent. I've heard horror stories about these clubs in Kabukicho where you end up owing a bunch of money when you leave for something you didn't ask for. I've also heard of ripoffs regarding credit cards and wallets and I'm trying to avoid these problems. The explanations given regarding the Koganecho scene have explained away a lot of questions and I think it helps put people at ease as to the legitimacy of the place.Since I'm relatively new to the Tokyo scene, I think it's a good thing to know the underlying economies and how things work in order to figure out what works best.Being a gaijin also severely limits the ability to "shop around" and this board is priceless in terms of finding prospective places to shop. It would be a guess but there are probably a lot of lurkers here who are seeing value in this discussion. Thanks for sharing your invaluable knowledge and experience with everyone here.

Rondolo,Sex in the Soap is a given. There is one right near Hinodecho which provides FS to foreign devil for 19,000 girls were so-so see my post about Soapland Mermaid, not to be confused with Esute Mermaid.Notty,According to webpage Hitoduma, Paichu, etc., options such as CIM seem to run 5k extra so 15k doesn't seem unreasonable.Of course, some BJ Pubs give you BBBJTCCIM for 8k-10k, but those places seem to have problems with STDs... Look back in the forum for more info. Usually the BJ Pub is also sitting on a chair in a semi-public booth which seems to bother some people. I got one memorable BBBJ in one such place from a somewhat middle aged woman, but the looks of girls are not always best and there is no way to verify quality of service before actually getting the BJ.As for how to get girls to swallow, keep them in a full nelson so they can't spit and pinch their nose shut until they have to suck in air and down the hatch she goes...CJW

Crazy Wood:A pink rotor is a small oval vibrator with a long cord and battery pack. It is what you see in most Japanese porn movies. I think you have to buy it from the girl, as no one want to use one that has been used by another (understandably).

I think CIM is standard in Japan, although Chinese seem to be less eager to allow it. Swallowing is not standard, but if you pay extra for the option "gokkun" she will do it (though some girls don't have that option on their menus).

Yes, FS in Soaplands is given. I think it is OK because they are located in specially zoned areas (?).As for CIM, none of the 3 or 4 women I have seen at Soaplands would do it the first time I saw them, but the one that I have seen more than once did it on the second visit, and every visit after that one. I guess it pays to be a repeat customer.Of course, at the BJ places like Hino Maru, CIM is standard, but not swallowing, since the girl must show the evidence in a tissue to her boss to get her bonus (or so I have read).V.

Regarding AF in Gotanda,First some background. Way back when I had a GF that would let me have anal sex with her, and it was wonderful. My wife now. won't even think about it. That plus that fact that there is a lot more Japanese AV on the Internet now with anal sex has made me reaaly itching to try it again with a cute Japanese girl. So, having read all the posts here about the AF in Gotanda, I was extremely curious and ready to try. And by golly, if I had to take one for the team, I would. So here is my report. All in all, it turned out to be an expensive (details to come) but enjoyable evening. I just went this past Friday night, 1/9.First, you absolutely must speak passing Japanese. My Japanese is pretty good, but as many of you know, talking on the phone is one of the most difficult things in a foreign language. If you can't speak Japanese, then you will want to go with a friend.OK, so my evening started around 8:00 PM. I phoned the number on the web site and said I wanted to make a reservation at 9:00. The guy told me that it's too early and to call back when I get to Gotanda station. He also could tell I was a foregner, I think, and he asked me if this was my first time, and I said yes but that a friend recommended to me. So I hopped on the JR and arrive about 9:00. It is the West exit of the station that you need to go to, not the East. Anyway, I phone the guy there and he explains a bit of the system to me and tells me that I will go to a hotel, at which point he puts me on hold or something, then comes back and says that he will call me back. At this point, I am just wandering around Gotanda, as I had never been there before. In particular, I was looking for the hotels so I could get familiar with their names. The guy and I go back and forth on the phones a few times and finally I understand that he is telling me that all the hotels are full, that I should just find one with a free room and then call when I have checked in. Since I have never been to a love hotel before, this was also a new experience for me.A couple of the hotels I found, including Hotel West and Hotel Air France, which are a long side the tracks. When you come out of the West exit, turn right and go across the street. The hotels are on the left side of the small street next to the tracks. Air France was booked, and the Hotel West did have one room available, at 6300 Yen for 2 hours. Little bit expensive from what I understand, but I didn't have much choice. At this point it is about 9:30. And I get into the room and call the guy back to give him my room number. He wants to know what service I want, and I tell him that I want the regular AF, 2 hours, "ni kai" which lets me come twice. Party, I was just wanting to splurge and indulge myself, but partly also worried that I might blow my load early out of excitement and not even get to the anal or at least not much of it. Anyway, this will set me back 50,000 yen. I am taking a bit of a gamble since I have not gotten to choose which girl I want; I assume maybe cause I am not a regular.The guy tells me OK, and that he will call me back shortly. About 5 minutes later, he calls and says that the girl will be there at 10:40, and will that be OK?!? Well, what am I supposed to do? I am already in the hotel room, so I just suck it up and watch Star Wars Ep I in Japanese on the TV in the room. At about 10:30, the guy calls the room, not my mobile, and lets me know that the girl is coming, and she arrives at my door about 5 minutes later. Since I have been in the hotel about an hour, I am a little concerned and I ask the girl about how to pay for extra time. She says, you just pay when you leave. OK, fine. I pay her the 50,000 yen up front.She's really happy that I speak some Japanese, though her English is passable for a Japanese person. The whole time, though we speak in Japanese. She doesn't waste much time, and starts taking off her clothes and running a bath. :-) She's not drop dead georgeous, but cute and quite attractive. I'd say about a 7.5 or 8. Nice personality, also. I try numerous times to guess her age during the evening, but she won't tell me. She looks to be about 29-30, and the web site says 31, though from talking about her, I guess it is more like 35. Still quite attractive, though.Anyway, the rest, I think, Is much like your standard soap experience. We start with the shower, and she cleans me real good and has me get in the bath. I also get to soap her up. After, we get out and move to the bed. Little bit of kissing first, then she starts to give me light massage and tongue bath. I can't remember the order of everything, but there was some anal rimming, and somehow we end up in a 69, so I can enjoy some DATY while she gives me a BBBJ. She let's me play with her ass during.This goes on for about 10 minutes and I am really suprised that I haven't blown my load, but I have done well up to this point. She stops the 69 and get the gel, which is the stuff you often see in the Japanese porn. I wasn't expecting, but she pours it all over me and starts to massage me with her whole body, even massaging my ass with her tits. A little strange, but enjoyable. She then gets on top of me and starts a little sumata, getting herself all gooed up. After another 5, she asks if I am ready. Of course, I am, and she puts a condom on me and wants me to go in her ass missionary style. Wow, I had forgotten how good it felt. I don't last anymore than 5 minutes. Clearly one of the best orgasms I have had in a long time. After, she keeps me inside her for a while until I start to get soft.So I am spent and we spend the next 20 minutes or so relaxing and chatting after which she starts to try and wake me up again. She succeeds and we start again. This time, she puts the condom on me, and as I am about to enter her, she asks, which do you want, meaning regular or anal? I ask her, is it OK to do regular for a bit and switch and she says OK. So we go at it regular for maybe 5 minutes and then I get in her ass again and the contrast is wonderful. This time, I last a little longer, maybe 10 minutes.To finish us, another shower and bath and she calls the guy to let him know she is done. Unbeknownst to me, she actually had a timer, but I never felt rushed nor did she ever look at it. We've gotten pretty friendly, and I even manage to trade mobile phone info with her and get her real name.Now for the kicker of the evening. I had no problem with the 50,000 yen for the service. A little expenisve, but, hey, this is Tokyo, right? But I am getting ready to pay about another 4,000 yen for the room, for the extra hour. Well, we get down to the lobby and it turns out that we stayed an extra hour an 3 minutes, and for that luxury, I pay an extra 9,300 yen. The girl even tries to argue with them on my behalf, though to no avail. Throw in an extra 3,000 yen for the cab fare back to the hotel since it is now almost 1:00 AM and the trains are no longer running.So, an expesive and long eveining, about $700 and 5 hours from start to finish. I understand their need to be circumspect, but the initial arrangements could be a bit more smooth. Maybe if I am a regular, it can be arranged for the girl to come to my hotel. I will ask next time I am in Japan. All in all, I was pleased, though left with the sneaking suspicion that the guy might be in cahoots with the hotels.Sorry for the long post. Hope everyone finds it informative.

Lion,Thanks for update on pink rotor live and learn eh.CJW

Pink RotorMy experiance with the pink rotor is that most of the delivery girls have one stashed in their purses. All you have to do is ask (if you ever want to see some amazing stuff, ask to go thru the purse)I had one delivery, who turned into a regular GFE, that had to use it to cum. She was literally addicted to that damn thing!At first it was cool doing it doggy style with that little rotor going and vibrating the entire groin area.But then any other position and it started to get in the way and was always humming and buzzing. I started to hate the rotor.I would always kid, "make sure you have lots of batteries" but really I would have liked to send it down the toire'She did mention that it is readily purchased at any of the sounds like "Donkey" (SP?) stores. Kind of a 7-11, there is one in Roppongi. They look cheap and may be worth picking up and leaving on the dresser with some energizers installed. But buyer beware!

Endowed,Donkey is probably the Don Quixote chain of discount stores. With the inexplicable penguin logo.Sho

BTW - The 'Donkey' in Shibuya is a good place to hook up near freebies on most Fri/Sat nites. It's close to the clubs and alot of girls hang out around there looking for someone to take them clubbing. It's worth a stroll around 11pm or so just to see what's up. One time I had a drunk chick practically begged me to take her into a love hotel - especially after I scored some ChuHi's in the DQ and bought her a Doner. SO I guess the cost of that pick up:3 Lemon ChuHi's - 450Y1 Doner Kabob - 500Y1 ST Love Hotel - 4000Y2hrs with a cute spinner - pricelessAnother time I was with some japanese friends and they were pretty appalled that I approached some girls near there to bring along as a 'catch' for one of the guys who was single. I guess they hold 'those girls' in quite low esteem. Though I couldn't really differentiate between my friend's friends and the girls by the DQ except of job status.S

Finally see some action. This k-gal was recommended from a close friend here, guess what? She is real cute. I manage to get some photos but please bear with the resolution as it was taken via camera phone. Hope you all enjoy though.The whole session was ok, but too bad she don't take it in the mouth!!! (CIM) Deal breaker? Now way!

Another one.