Berlin

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;3002805]Hi there -- Have posted in this forum years and years ago plus posted countless reports across North / South America, Europe and Asia.

I'm looking for somewhere I haven't been yet in Europe / Northern Africa for a mongering week this July which isn't stupidly expensive. That eliminates Morocco, Prague, Budapest, Berlin, Vienna, Barcelona, Madrid, Paris and London. I'm also coming from Athens, which also looks not very promising as a play destination.

I had really wanted to hang in Istanbul. But after RingTTF, it seems very expensive (minimum 8 k) and kind of an overall pain in the ass (fucking should be fun, but the reports don't seem all that inspiring). I'm open to poorer countries -- they usually have hotter girls and lower prices.

Suggestions? Where is great and hasn't been overrun with high prices and shitty service yet?[/QUOTE]Lisbon, especially its independents. But I don't consider Barcelona expensive if you use independents and the shared private apartments. If you do touristy options, yes, Barcelona is expensive and often shitty service.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;3002806]Lisbon, especially its independents. But I don't consider Barcelona expensive if you use independents and the shared private apartments. If you do touristy options, yes, Barcelona is expensive and often shitty service.[/QUOTE]Awesome lead, I'll look into Lisbon. Thanks!

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;3003045]Awesome lead, I'll look into Lisbon. Thanks![/QUOTE]This is actually a great question. Which is the best country in Europe for mongering? Specially in terms of ROI (or bang for the buck).

I was thinking east Europe (e. G. Romania) would be great, as those countries are cheaper in general and have really hot girls (some of the best girls I have met in UK, Germany etc. Were Romanian). But I read those forums and they are full of bad reports. And high prices.

Which European country would you think Is best for mongering? Not expecting money to go as far as it goes in Asia / Thailand but surely there are some countries better than others?

My last time in Berlin was back in 2019. I had 2 Brothel experiences. One was out standing, and one was laughably awful. My first experience was with Danika at Maison the' envie. After negotiating, she pretended to speak no English, and my German was not good enough to communicate. I believe she was intentionally sand bagging. I was able to get off, but she was awful.

My other experience was at Ginas Tango Rosa. I asked every lady as they came through, "Sprechen sie englisch bitte?" A cute, big titted Russian lady named Olga caught my interest. She greeted me in English with a hand shake. On a wim, I went with her. She had great tits, a decent ass, just a little chub around the middle. 50 euros for the room +10 for OWO +10 for DFK. She performed all well, and with enthusiasm. It was a great fuck session, and I would see her again if she was still around. I may go back to this place. It was a bit of a journey, but I had a really good experience.

This trip I am staying in Fridrichshain. Two block from my Air BnB, there is a "erotic massage" place called Club Amar. It has 3. 9 stars out of 15 reviews on Google maps. Other than that I can't find any information about it. Since it is so close, I will probably check it out.

I am hoping to check a box on my bucket list this trip. I would like to have a GFE 3 way with 2 lovely working girls. I will probably find an escort with a friend from [URL]Kaufmich.com[/URL] for this. However, maybe a brothel is my best bet? Any guidance? I would like two ladies who play well together.

I am considering an FFC experience at Artimes, but I keep reading that the girls there don't kiss. So, I may wait until later in the trip to try the FFC in beöblingen, or Baden Baden.

I would love some Berlin recommendations. I have to go back a few pages to actually find some helpful content on this forum, and a lot of the links are no longer viable.

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003557]

I am hoping to check a box on my bucket list this trip. I would like to have a GFE 3 way with 2 lovely working girls. I will probably find an escort with a friend from [URL]Kaufmich.com[/URL] for this. However, maybe a brothel is my best bet? Any guidance? I would like two ladies who play well together.
[/QUOTE]Royal is listing some suggested pairs of girls. But each girl will ask for 50 for OWO and 30 for DFK.

Also, lets say I have a great time with a lady in a brothel. Would it be appropriate to ask her to exchange contact information for a meeting in my Air BnB?

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003557]
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My other experience was at Ginas Tango Rosa. I asked every lady as they came through, "Sprechen sie englisch bitte?" A cute, big titted Russian lady named Olga caught my interest. She greeted me in English with a hand shake. On a wim, I went with her. She had great tits, a decent ass, just a little chub around the middle. 50 euros for the room +10 for OWO +10 for DFK. She performed all well, and with enthusiasm. It was a great fuck session, and I would see her again if she was still around. I may go back to this place. It was a bit of a journey, but I had a really good experience.
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[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003643]Also, lets say I have a great time with a lady in a brothel. Would it be appropriate to ask her to exchange contact information for a meeting in my Air BnB?[/QUOTE]Sure, why wouldn't it?

"Club Amar" is "Club Amor". Small apartment bordello. I do not know any Website. But german forum has a thread: [URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?t=146702[/URL].

Friedrichshain has more massage parlors than Clubs.

[URL]https://mabelle-massagen.de/[/URL]

Erotic massage by mostly MILFs, most offer sex as extra. Decent prices. Recommended.

[URL]https://www.ekstase-massage.de/[/URL]

Massage by younger Woman, maybe they offer more (no own experience).

More massage:

[URL]https://www.feelings-massagen.de/masseurinnen.html[/URL]

[URL]https://my-lady-massage.de/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.russland-massage.de/[/URL]

Ginas-tango-rosa is still active, but no Olga listed (just call and ask).

[URL]https://ginas-tango-rosa.de/girls/[/URL]

Most advertizing for redlight is here:

[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/sexkontakte-berlin-erreichbar.html[/URL]

Be aware of fake pictures, false promises and moon prices.

Enjoy your stay!

[QUOTE=Piefke;3003691]"Club Amar" is "Club Amor". Small apartment bordello. I do not know any Website. But german forum has a thread: [URL]https://huren-test-forum.lusthaus.cc/showthread.php?t=146702[/URL].

Friedrichshain has more massage parlors than Clubs.

[URL]https://mabelle-massagen.de/[/URL]

Erotic massage by mostly MILFs, most offer sex as extra. Decent prices. Recommended.

[URL]https://www.ekstase-massage.de/[/URL]

Massage by younger Woman, maybe they offer more (no own experience).

More massage:

[URL]https://www.feelings-massagen.de/masseurinnen.html[/URL]

[URL]https://my-lady-massage.de/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.russland-massage.de/[/URL]

Ginas-tango-rosa is still active, but no Olga listed (just call and ask).

[URL]https://ginas-tango-rosa.de/girls/[/URL]

Most advertizing for redlight is here:

[URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/sexkontakte-berlin-erreichbar.html[/URL]

Be aware of fake pictures, false promises and moon prices.

Enjoy your stay![/QUOTE]Do you know anything about Club Carena?

Thanks for the link to the German forum, Heren Test. It is really hard to navigate. I use both their English translation, and Google's and still struggle.

I am not much into message. I am always looking for a GFE.

What is the going rate for 30 min, and an hour at a Berlin Brothel these days? I have spent some time on Kauf Mich. I am seeing 80-120 for a half and 150-250-to the moon for an hour.

I am seeing a lot a hairy ladies on Kauf Mich. I did not know that was so much of a thing in Berlin.

[QUOTE=Leroy1969;3003860]
Thanks for the link to the German forum, Heren Test. It is really hard to navigate. I use both their English translation, and Google's and still struggle..[/QUOTE]There's a forum in Berlin Forum / Lusthaus for Massage in Berlin, both one for Asian and one for regular, I believe I've seen extras and better descriptions, but it is mostly "indies" not the clubs. Most of the club reviews are WITHIN the individual named clubs.

As to Hairy, new to me, but if you see an uptake on anything it generally means there are customers. You don't see more advertisements for services no one uses.

[QUOTE=Piefke;2999871]
Thanks for naming an escort agency too! But you complain about Berlin agencies and give the name of a Bratislava one? Why?

And in your first report from yesterday you complained about "Berlin has seemed to me the worst place in terms of price / quality / girl's resemblance to her photo. " . But 10 steps later you declare "Warsaw wins in the "photos with a face" category;" and finish with praise for Berlin "There are a lot of fakes on Hungarian / Polish sites and, although I am sure that the situation is similar in Germany, I was luckier with the reality of the photos in Berlin. ".

It is not fully consistent. [/QUOTE]Similar pattern is observed on other country forums. Great to see someone is noticing. It's a fascinating behavior.

[B]Girl:[/B] pretty, nice and sweet.

[B]Photos:[/B] real.

[B]Facilities:[/B] poor.

[B]Service:[/B] poor.

[B]Organization:[/B] poor.

[B]Price paid:[/B] 130€ incl. FO, DATY, french kiss + 20€ extra cumshot on the body.

[B]Repeat factor:[/B] none.

[B]Story of the encounter:[/B]

I was trying to set the meeting up as an outcall to my hotel, to make sure the environment will be nice and tidy.

Not sure if the agency or the girl handles the comms but I was trying to schedule it in a tight window between my bussiness meetings so I got in touch a couple of days in advance, outcalls are from 2 hours and more + taxi, I only had 90 mins but agreed to pay the whole thing to get what I want.

Confirmed in the morning on the day of the meeting but the girl was in the end not ready on time and I could not reschedule, so change of plans, drove over to Charlottenburg for an hour of incall.

Nice neigbourhood, next to the Augsburger st. Metro. New building, basic one-room apartment on top floor, I was let in on time, the girl is cute and nice, the photos are flattering but real, she speaks OK english (and other languages), but you won't need it, she's not a talker.

Unfortunately the appartment was not well kept, as I was afraid, it was musty, used bedsheets, smelly bathroom and I was handed a completely wet towell. Precisely why I wanted the outcall in the first place. But the girl was polite and pretty and I was really into her, so decided to bite the bullet on the ambience, kept my mouth shut, paid the 130€ hourly rate and took a quick shower.

Then I asked her what she likes, with a young and cute girl like her I want to be gentle and make it as pleasant for both parties as possible. She told me she didn't like it rough, other than that she doesn't care. No problem for me, I don't like it rough either. Turn out she meant it literally when she said she doesn't care, which is a problem, but we'll get to it.

After that I got invited to the bed and we started to make out with french kisses and I was gently playing with her tits. The initial making out was the highlight of the service, she wanted to move on quickly but I asked her to slow down and keep making out with me, with which she complied. Some minutes later I started to get hard, she offered a blowjob which I accepted.

Here it has to be said if you are into deep or porno blowjobs, there will be nothing for you here. Very basic amateurish sucking of the top third of the cock (and I'm only average in size at best), with some tongue play on the head. No creativity, no playing with the balls or surrounding area, no hand involvement to proper the instrument up. This is the kind of blowjob your first girlfriend will give when you are 16. Don't get me wrong, it's still pleasurable when a beautiful young girl sucks you and I liked it (I guess liking her in general and her sweet demeanor played a role), but there were none of the skills one expects from a professional.

I was getting into it though and started to think I might let her finish me this way and then move onto fucking for the second shot on the goal. But after a while she grew tired or bored with it and asked me to move on to fuck her. I like to do what the girl likes to do, so I said yes, but when she put a condom on me and removed the remainder of her dress and revealed her beautiful white body, breasts and peachy pussy, I knew I had to eat this treasure first.

But as a gentlemen, I asked first, if that's ok, I don't want to force any girl into something she doesn't want to do, kills my mood anyway. She again said she does not care and she really meant it. I was trying every trick in my repertoire to get her in the mood, kissed all over and very gently tried to find her erotogenous zone but no success, she was mentally some place else and could not get any involvement from her. Then I moved on to the cunnilingus, she has a very beautiful, sweet and clean pussy and I really enjoyed eating her out and when you like to do it and know how to do it, sucess is almost guaranteed. But not this time, though she got beautifully wet, I was not getting any involvenent or signs of enjoyment from her. Shame, I was really trying to get her comfortable and enjoy, because that's when I enjoy the most as well but despite considerable and long investment of effort, she was mentally not there at all.

In the end I figured this is not going anywhere, I stopped and asked outright if there's anything I can do for her, she just said we should move to sex. Fine, but will need some help with my little friend first, since the cold atmosphere killed his pump. We get rid of the condom that got all dirty from the musty sheet, she gives me couple of minutes of the schoolgirl BJ mentioned previously, but the second I get barely hard enough, on a new condom goes with added lubricant (which was not really necesarry, she was wet) and she lies in mish, where she proceeds to deadfish with closed eyes thinking of some place else. I figured trying to get her on top and make some effort would not be met with any enthusiasm so I proceed and fuck her very gently in mish and to my surprise in a very short time I need to cum, so I remove the condom and blow a massive load all over her belly and bit on the tits.

That woke her up:

A) she was also surprised I came so fast.

B) first thing she said was "cum on body is extra".

Now, I knew this was not true as her message from whatsapp said BJ natur and cum on body is included, but she gave me nice french kissing included in the price so I decided bickering over stupid 20€ is not worth ruining my day with an argument. We both took a very quick shower, then to her credit she did offer me a massage twice but I declined, we had about 20 minutes left and that would be just enough to make me ready for the second round when the alarm would go off and I would be leaving with a boner, not what I needed for my bussiness meeting that was to follow. I asked her to cuddle up with me instead, we talked for a bit while I gently careseed her but again, she was not mentally there, so I got up and left 10 minutes early.

Some final notes, stupid on me for not finding time the day before to offload, I had no action for couple of days and then came too soon, her lucky day hahah.

She clearly is not made for this job, she's not a natural and has to space out mentally. I'm quite positive it was not my fault, she was not the first working girl I met by any strech and I know the women like me, because I'm polite, tune in with their tempo easy, I have very good hygiene and manners and I'm among the younger and better looking among the clients, so it was her state of mind. She clearly already had clients that day which surely didn't help her energy, but I think she's just tired of this life and wants out.

As a fellow human being I do have understanding and compassion for that, but when I look at her as a purveyor of professional services. My impression was poor; and on top of that the very poor facilities. Hence, the repeat factor was zero. Even though I really, really liked the girl, she was polite and sweet and pretty.

Elisabeth can be recommended to the type of fellow monger who only cares if the girl is pretty, who wants to take complete initiative and does not mind having sex with a passive girl who doesn't want to be there. She is not rude or visibly disgusted either, so if this is enough for you, I think 130€ is a bargain for a pretty young girl like her. But I need involvement, I don't want to feel like I'm doing it with somebody who doesn't want to be there and thus rate the experience as poor. If she gave me just a little theater, I would be elated. Shame.

Being from Ukraine means you got handed the raw end of the deal even without the **** Putin trying to bomb your house and I wish her all the best in her life, but hopefully she will find something else, I don't think the working girl life is for her.

Forgot to update the title, the report below is about Elisabeth from Monica's Agency.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;3018759]Similar pattern is observed on other country forums. Great to see someone is noticing. It's a fascinating behavior.[/QUOTE]I apologize if this bothers you too much, I will try to write better reports, ask more adequate questions and choose forums more correctly =).

And, by the way, to the questions.

In early September, I will be traveling to Berlin with a business partner who is deeply married, so he decided that now is the time to push himself into the depths of paid love. He is a bit old-fashioned and does not like massage parlors (although he has not been to them) and he does not really like searching on [URL]berlinintim.com[/URL] and [URL]kaufmich.com[/URL]. So I thought maybe someone could recommend some proven quality brothels in Berlin? Laufhauses are also a German thing, aren't they? I have been to a couple of such places in Austria.

EDIT: I know about FFK Artemis, of course.