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So I understand that officially, nowhere except grandfathered soaplands in Yoshiwara offer FS. But are there any types of services where your chances are higher? E. G. Deli-health vs hotel-health vs massage? Or is it about equal chances and depends more on other factors, like Japanese ability or something else?

Finally how possible is it to see a girl again from say a hotel or deli health off the clock or outside of the service? Does that ever happen?

Thanks for any info!

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1295754]So I understand that officially, nowhere except grandfathered soaplands in Yoshiwara offer FS. But are there any types of services where your chances are higher? E. G. Deli-health vs hotel-health vs massage? Or is it about equal chances and depends more on other factors, like Japanese ability or something else?

Finally how possible is it to see a girl again from say a hotel or deli health off the clock or outside of the service? Does that ever happen?

Thanks for any info![/QUOTE]Chinese / Korean places offer the highest chance and most Chinese / Korean delivery shops are unofficially guaranteed. For proper Japanese run places. It's real crap shoot and it depends more on the girl and how smooth an operator you are.

According to shop policy you are not allowed to request employee phone numbers or meet them outside of the service. That doesn't mean it's never happened before, but it's definitely not a common occurrence.

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1295754]So I understand that officially, nowhere except grandfathered soaplands in Yoshiwara offer FS. But are there any types of services where your chances are higher? E. G. Deli-health vs hotel-health vs massage? Or is it about equal chances and depends more on other factors, like Japanese ability or something else?

Finally how possible is it to see a girl again from say a hotel or deli health off the clock or outside of the service? Does that ever happen?

Thanks for any info![/QUOTE]Not quite sure what you mean by 'grandfathered soaplands'—they are not exempt from the laws on prostitution in Japan, which basically make any offer to trade vaginal intercourse for money illegal. That said. They are your best bet.

It seems that delivery and hotel healths are hit and miss. I say 'it seems' as I am batting 100 with both (although I have probably just jinxed myself.)

Estes are even more of a crapshoot—although again I have a 100% record there. But although I am not cute or even handsome, I kissed the Blarney Stone and have a silk tongue. Hell, I even used to get FS free from a provider at a health in Ikebukuro. (How I miss UCLA Little Bear.)

If you are looking for a sure thing, why not hook up with one of the indie escorts on Craiglist? You can ask her in advance what services she offers and how much. In addition, if she is advertising on CL, she will have at least basic English skills. And as she is already off the clock, that answers your other query.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1295950]Chinese / Korean places offer the highest chance and most Chinese / Korean delivery shops are unofficially guaranteed. For proper Japanese run places. It's real crap shoot and it depends more on the girl and how smooth an operator you are.

According to shop policy you are not allowed to request employee phone numbers or meet them outside of the service. That doesn't mean it's never happened before, but it's definitely not a common occurrence.[/QUOTE]I've had quite a few Japanese delivery health girls and most have been happy to give me email and a few have exchanged numbers. Out of those I've only met 2 outside their work, one would fuck me for a lesser fee than her shop charged and the other wanted to just practice English and have dinner she paid for her meal so it's cool.

Happymail is a crap shoot but I met one girl on there who I still fuck regularly and go out on dates with. She's cute with a nice body and great tits.

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1295380]Based on recommendations here decided to try Happy Verry on my short few week trip to Tokyo. The pictures given in a link earlier really helped but the final 10 yards have changed somewhat. The whole area around have is a little overwhelming-especially if you can't read Japanese. I also only speak minimal Japanese having taken it a long time ago.

Almost missed it and had to double back, an old Japanese tout (I think) wearing a hat, glasses and checkered shirt stopped me outside near the stairs as I can pass for Japanese, but said to me "Japanese boys only!" when he realizes I'm not. I asked if this was have, he looks at me, considers a moment and motions for me to follow him.

Upstairs he negotiates access for me despite my being non-Japanese. They show me the prices and I am charged 21, 000, 19, 000 for 55 min plus 2, 000 initiation. I don't get to choose my girl because apparently only a few take gaijin and they are not on the board. I get led to a small waiting room where a couple other guys are waiting. Then the tout comes in and says,"Chippu". I guess he got me in so I give him 2, 000. (too much? Necessary?)

Then the guy that took my payment gets me and leads me about a 3-5 min walk (where he repeats several times to me "sex is prohibited" and making an X with his arms- guess he doesn't believe my "wakarimashita"s) to nearby love hotel where I forked over another 1, 500. This seems to be standard. The room is a little more grungy than expected and the bed appeared to be leather? Anyway the girl comes in and asks me to shower. Of course I oblige but somehow thought she would join me-I was mistaken.

Overall session started awkward given my lack of Japanese, but once we got into it and a little google translate, things were better. Very GFE except for no FS offered. Might this change on future visits with this girl or with other girls?

Also she seemed to cum at least three times, having to stop everything and shudder for a few min. Then saying "Jyouzu" (I can understand that!). I didn't pop unfortunately as BJ rarely does it for me, but did enjoy the GFE with a very young and cute Japanese spinner. Not sure I should try again without nihongo o benkyou shimasu.[/QUOTE]I have never had these kinds of difficulties at happy verry. Plus, I never had to pay a tip at all. I am a semi-regular here and theyve always been cool with me

Thanks for the responses (Johnnyboy, BigManJapan, TokyoBlade and Ektelontt)!

So looks like I had some bad luck at Happy Verry- do repeat visits to the same girl help? Also it seems Japanese ability is pretty key to being a smooth operator- am I correct that those of you that have had good success with deli and hotel health speak passable / fluent Nihongo? Or are there other tricks or phrases that can improve my odds? (have studied Japanese but it's been a while and I am far from fluent.)

Also what kind of quality can be found on Craiglist from freelancers? Rates similar to Chinese / Korean estes?

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1296300]Thanks for the responses (Johnnyboy, BigManJapan, TokyoBlade and Ektelontt)!

So looks like I had some bad luck at Happy Verry- do repeat visits to the same girl help? Also it seems Japanese ability is pretty key to being a smooth operator- am I correct that those of you that have had good success with deli and hotel health speak passable / fluent Nihongo? Or are there other tricks or phrases that can improve my odds? (have studied Japanese but it's been a while and I am far from fluent.)

Also what kind of quality can be found on Craiglist from freelancers? Rates similar to Chinese / Korean estes?[/QUOTE]Well, I speak japanese so it helps. I live and work here. Usually, most of these busineses don't allow foreigners because of language barriers. There might be things the girl is not cool with and neither does the store tolerate.

But after tonight, I am goingmto retire from mongering to attempt a real relationship.

[QUOTE=Dirk67; 1296300]Thanks for the responses (Johnnyboy, BigManJapan, TokyoBlade and Ektelontt)!

Also it seems Japanese ability is pretty key to being a smooth operator- am I correct that those of you that have had good success with deli and hotel health speak passable / fluent Nihongo? Or are there other tricks or phrases that can improve my odds? (have studied Japanese but it's been a while and I am far from fluent.)

Also what kind of quality can be found on Craiglist from freelancers? Rates similar to Chinese / Korean estes?[/QUOTE]My Japanese is far from fluent, but my ability to communicate on a street level is extremely good. Do not confuse the two.

Tricks? Be nice. Treat the girls with respect. Never push it.

As for "quality" on CL, this is a highly subjective call. In general, I have found the quality to be at least as good if not better than you are likely to get anywhere else. No, of course the rates are not similar to Chinese / Korean hotbed estes-not if you are thinking 10, 000 yen. Expect to pay 20, 000 for 60-90 minutes. For that the girl will come out to your place.

Late Saturday morning (around 11:00 am) I decided to do some mongering research in the Shinjuku area. First I attempted to visit a few soaplands in Shinjuku. The first soapland I went to in Shinjuku was. 11 channel, which is next to an empty lot just around the corner from Tenkaippin. I've been there in the past but that was a long, long time ago. There is now a sign up in the entrance with big bold letters, JAPANESE ONLY. I ignored the sign and went to the front counter anyway. I spoke to the tout at the counter (my Japanese is passable but certainly not fluent). He said the business was for Japanese only. When we spoke he said there was no problem with my Japanese just that the times had changed. I asked why and he didn't elaborate.

Just on the other side of the empty lot (about 150 feet away) there is another soapland (I forget the name but it has a blue canopy with a mermaid on it. It's next to the 'Be-Wave' café and bar). I spoke to the tout there and he said I could come in now since it was day time (before 7:00 pm) but not in the nighttime. He said he didn't want a lot of foreigners in the place during the night hours when he mostly had Japanese customers. He also quoted a price of about 35, 000 yen. I thanked him for the info and moved on.

As I walked away I was approached by a Japanese guy asking if I wanted to see a strip show or have a massage. I introduced myself and asked what his name was. Watanabe, was his repsonse. I inquired about the massage and he said it included a BBBJ if I wanted it. The cost would be 15, 000 – 20, 000 yen for 40 minutes and the price depended on the girl I got. I asked about FS and he said it would be at least 25, 000/40 minutes. I then asked about an accommodating soapland in the area and he said in the past I could have gone to 11 Channel or the mermaid shop. He said I probably couldn't get in there anymore because there are more affluent Japanese guys going in there and they don't care to 'compete' with the foreigners. When I asked about the 'affluent' Japanese guys, he showed me a picture on his cell phone of a guy walking into the mermaid soapland. The guy in the photo looked very much like, Hideki Sunaga, who pitches for the Tokyo Giants.

I asked Watanabe about the soapland, Le Grand, just down the road from Hinomaru and he said he wasn't sure about that place. He said if I wanted guaranteed FS in the Kabukicho area my best bet would be to go for health service from one or more of the escort places. He said he could show me around but I passed on his offer saying I wanted to do some research in the Shibuya area as well. He noted that he was always somewhere near the Tenkaippin and could assist if I needed it. Watanabe appeared to be somewhere between 45 and 48 years old, smokes heavily, and has a long ponytail. He speaks fluent English and was dressed very casually. Ball cap, t-shirt, slacks and a sweatshirt tied around his waist.

My next research report will be on the Shibuya area.

[QUOTE=K1234K; 1295550]Great report- Quick question.

Do all the booths at least face the same direction, with some barriers between booths, or is everything arranged in a circle, with everyone facing each other and having 100% visibility?[/QUOTE]Everything faces forward, its lighter and much smaller than JanJan, so if you aren't at the front as others are going in and out you will be in pretty much full view.

Personally I didn't care too much and found the girls abou the same as JanJan, plus its better value (for me for two pops). Also the music isn't that cheesy techno most of these places play, which I found much better!

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1295950]Chinese / Korean places offer the highest chance and most Chinese / Korean delivery shops are unofficially guaranteed.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice about this. Just wondering if there are any particular delivery health agencies that you would recommend?

Bear in mind that I live near Shinagawa / Roppongi and Chinese / Korean / Japanese girls will all do fine. By the way, I can speak Japanese fairly well although look heavily Gaijin LOL!

Hey Taipan, was Watanabe-San really tall like maybe 6'1 and pretty slim? If it was he is hella cool I believe I've had drinks with him before in Shinjuku.

Anyone know if Milky Baby takes foreigners? [url]http://www.milkybaby.jp/[/url]

Emailed them and got no reply. Would rather hear back from someone here than going over there only to be rejected.

Thanks

Yes they do take foreigners I do speak Jp very well (25 years dealing with them) zenzen daijoubu desu yo.

The lady on the phone seemed very nice and willing to make resevations for me right then and there even though I was a foreigner.

Wow and they money they want for one hour. Your dime brother.

Thanks a lot. Think I would have a lot of trouble with limited Nihongo?

[quote]Wow and they money they want for one hour. Your dime brother.[/quote]Yeah, but where else am I going to get 60 minute access to a pregnant girl with tits that squirt warm milk?