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Hi fellas, Newbie here. Have been a reader for long time and got much help from all of you. Thanks a lot.

Saw some reviews here and also on other sites about this Dio / Emotion Pink Salon. So decided to give a try yesterday while I visited a frined near Gotanda. Here is the report.

Place is very easy to find, after taking the toei train, I walked up from exit A6 and headed straight for the second crossing where I turned right and saw the shop already. A tout was waving me in and talking to me in Japanese (I look very "Japanese" but I only have basic Nihongo ability) about which salon (Dio or Emotion) I wanted to pick up and price, blah, blah.

According to him, Dio is cheaper since the girls are older (but I didn't get the price clearly, maybe 4K or 5K for two girls or something) while Emotion has younger girls, offers a double offload (from two girls, of course) and the price is 7K. I personally picked up Emotion since age means sth to me. Do note that Emotion's stairs are on the left of the entrance while Dio's are on the right side (they are separated).

So after walking up stairs, I paid my 7K to another tout out of a black curtain and was asked to wait in a little space with 3 chairs and some mangas on a little book shelf to my left. After sitting for about 10 Mins or so, I was asked to enter the "business" area through the black curtain. It was already full with only one sofa empty (which was for me). I guess they only had 3 girls working at the time I visited since I waited on the sofa for another 15 mins while all the other three Japanese dudes are serviced. That was a very funny moment, haha, I tried very hard to stop from laughing out.

I saw a half-bald old man (sitting in front of me) was having DFK and 69 with his assignment. I guess he also had deeply fingered the girl's Bush and had DATY since I actually heard the noise and the girl moaning. So I believe these are acceptable deals.

Now after the 3 dudes got their relieves, I waited for another 5 mins and a Japanese lady came in to blow me. She was definitely at her late 30s and looked far from good-looking. Flat breast, crooked teeth, cannot understand English at all and poor BJ skills. After cleaned up a bit by her, I refused her DFK and she didn't succeed at blowing me after 20 mins when her time was up. A lot of regret up to this point. Trust me, BBBJ for 20 mins without a blow really hurts.

Then waited another few mins for my next service. This time things turned out to be the opposite, a lady around 25 with a nice body and C boobs came. Old routine here except DFK for this lady. I fingered her and she was all wet under the forest. BJ was very good, I blew my load within 10 mins and made her a mouthful. A little chat after that, pants on and I left. This lady is for sure not Japanese (probably Chinese from my experience) , she can throw some basic english communication if you like to chat a bit. One more thing to note is, the first lady serviced me also served a white dude sitting in front of me. So I guess this 7K gets you two ladies with differed quality in looking and age.

This was it. A good first attempt for me at BBBJ, but I'd say that this was also my last time with BBBJ, since the fear of being hit by STDs will push me back to HJs. Hope my report is useful.

[quote]Trust me, BBBJ for 20 mins without a blow really hurts.[/quote]Not if they do it right.

As far as I can tell, though, there are no normal JDH places in Ugu (ie there are no DH places that have just ordinary young Japanese girls, like Grimpeur). All of the JDH places specialize in some kind of weird fetish: Fat chicks, old chicks (like 90 years old) , chicks who will let you shit on them, etc.

[QUOTE=Xslikx;1318438]As is well-known, and discussed on the Japanese boards, BBFS is the "special" service of the Uguisudani scene. All of the KDH, and most of the JDH, places offer it as a standard. It is also well-known that if you frequent Ugu and partake of the local offerings, it's only a matter of time before you will catch a little something "special."[/QUOTE]

I have made several searches in the Forum. But came up empty handed.

I will be staying in the Hilton in Shinjuku-Ku and am looking for good quality spa nearby. Sometime back I read in the forum something about place called New York. New York . NYNY. Or something like that.

Can some of the local "experts" help?

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1318717]Not if they do it right.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on this. But when the lady is not your type and she tries hard to make sure you blow, things can get very difficult.

Although this was my first try on BBBJ, I think I will rather go back to HJs since thr risk taken is simply too much.

[QUOTE=Firebird; 1318730]I have made several searches in the Forum. But came up empty handed.

I will be staying in the Hilton in Shinjuku-Ku and am looking for good quality spa nearby. Sometime back I read in the forum something about place called New York. New York. NYNY. Or something like that.

Can some of the local "experts" help?

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]NYNY is on the other side of town from shinjuku. This is NYNY [url]http://goo.gl/maps/qpagq[/url] The shop has now a purple front instead of a green one. You also have Champs-elysees just around the corner. But for these you will need to get on the train to Ueno. Sorry I can't help for a place around Shinjuku as I usually go to the above mentioned shops.

[url]www.newyork2.jp[/url]

[url]www.shanze.jp[/url]

Just finished getting a rather decent massage and FS (covered) for 1 mon yen for 40 minutes of service. No signage that I could see but it's pretty easy to find. Leave Gotanda station from the east exit, cross over to the giant Big Echo bldg. Go left around said building and take a right at the Jonathan's. Like I said there's no sign but there's usually? (actually the second one I visited this plac) a female tout hanging out on the street. Right across from a few male touts for, I'm guessing Japanese only places since they made no effort to get me. She takes you downstairs right between these guys and you come out 40 minutes later a much happier fellow. Wonder if it burns those guys to see her ferrying customers in and out right between them. I had "Yuki" from Thailand, big fake rack, but nice face and good technique, both massage and otherwise. Not a place to go if you want Japanese girls but for my money quite a good deal.

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1318948]This is NYNY.

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/qpagq[/url]

The shop has now a purple front instead of a green one.

[url]www.newyork2.jp[/url]

[url]www.shanze.jp[/url][/QUOTE]How good does your Japanese have to be for NYNY? What time of day do you usually visit NYNY? I'd like to try it out and I'm looking to judge what is a god time of day to go.

[QUOTE=Taipan68;1319454]How good does your Japanese have to be for NYNY? What time of day do you usually visit NYNY? I'd like to try it out and I'm looking to judge what is a god time of day to go.[/QUOTE]These shops are very gaijin friendly. The first time I went there I used "hai" and "wakarimashita" only. They will speak English to those who can't speak Japanese. I usually go there based on the desired lady's schedule so morning, afternoon or evening. I don't think I ever spent more than 5 minutes in the waiting room.

Warning: the ladies in those shops are very friendly but there won't be any FS on the menu (but pretty much anything else goes as long as respect of the lady is involved) and the gals are older. I always enjoyed my times there (about 10 times now).

Dear Xslikx.

Would you please post a link to one of these Japanese boards?

The only Japanese boards I can seem to find are the bbs pink boards, but those boards seem like just a bunch of random disconnected comments.

[QUOTE=Xslikx;1318438]As is well-known, and discussed on the Japanese boards, BBFS is the "special" service of the Uguisudani scene. All of the KDH, and most of the JDH, places offer it as a standard. It is also well-known that if you frequent Ugu and partake of the local offerings, it's only a matter of time before you will catch a little something "special."[/QUOTE]

I'm a sucker for these date cafes but haven't gone in a while given the last few times I went I've had bad experiences in that there were hardly any girls. The last thing I like doing is wasting away a Sunday afternoon sitting around at these places for girls that never show up.

Given I haven't had luck in a while at Stella or Kirara (closed now) in Shinjuku I've decided to check out the cafes in Ikebukuro. I was planning on cycling through kirara, kirari, and momo cafe depending on the talent on showcase but never made it past momo cafe. They had today (sun) a gyaku-nanpa event, meaning the guy's end up sitting in front of the magic mirror and the girls are able to checkout the guys at their leisure behind the mirror and pick who they want. When I arrived there must've like 15 guys, luckily got picked within 10 mins of sitting down for a free talk session which is where you are meant to settle the financial matters and the makeup of the date.

So during the free talk session we do light introductions, some minor small talk. Then we talk about what I want to do. I'm pretty clear from the beginning. Sure can go for some tea, do karaoke but interested to go to a hotel (warikiri) ultimately. She then asks well what do you want to do more now at the moment, get some tea or go to a hotel. Great my kind of girl! We talk price. I generally lowball the girl and offer her 15k to which she laughs at. I ask what she was expecting, to which she replies 30k but asks if I can do 25k. Done (given she's my type. Young, skinny, pretty. Looks like your every day girl walking down Shibuya). We then get out of the cafe then get to a nearby hotel.

Total Damage ends up being 33, 000.

Cafe Costs: 5, 000.

Hotel Costs: 3, 000.

Allowance: 25, 000.

Others on the forum have indicated a lot of these girls are normal girls you see on the street, so you should be subtle in asking for what you want (its technically against the cafe rules to talk about sex for money in the store). Having been to a lot of these places I know better and don't have these fantasies that normal girls would actually come to these types of establishments. Its always people who are already in the pink trade and do this on the side or people who are regulars and go to the cafe with the motivation of getting cash for sex (so are technically pro's). If you unluckily get a normal girl, you will probably end up singing karaoke with her for an hour or two and that's it, best to screen those out before leaving the cafe. Otherwise worst case you probably have to feed the girl before hitting the hotel (I. E. Go get some tea).

This was only the 2nd time I've been to a gyaku-nan event but can say that both times I got a higher quality hookup than I would in a normal day at the cafe. Talking briefly to the girl after our session, she mentioned a lot of girls (including herself) only go to the cafe when they have gyaku-nan events. Which makes complete sense. So if you are an average or better than average looking guy then this may be a good way to hook up. I have no idea how non Japanese people well do. But its probably worth a shot. Needless to say you can't really go to one of these looking like a total slob.

[QUOTE=Tengu;1319068]Just finished getting a rather decent massage and FS (covered) for 1 mon yen for 40 minutes of service. No signage that I could see but it's pretty easy to find. Leave Gotanda station from the east exit, cross over to the giant Big Echo bldg. Go left around said building and take a right at the Jonathan's. Like I said there's no sign but there's usually? (actually the second one I visited this plac) a female tout hanging out on the street. Right across from a few male touts for, I'm guessing Japanese only places since they made no effort to get me. She takes you downstairs right between these guys and you come out 40 minutes later a much happier fellow. Wonder if it burns those guys to see her ferrying customers in and out right between them. I had "Yuki" from Thailand, big fake rack, but nice face and good technique, both massage and otherwise. Not a place to go if you want Japanese girls but for my money quite a good deal.[/QUOTE]Around what time were you out there? I want to try someone with an enormous fake rack-haven't yet!

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1319555]These shops are very gaijin friendly. The first time I went there I used "hai" and "wakarimashita" only. They will speak English to those who can't speak Japanese. I usually go there based on the desired lady's schedule so morning, afternoon or evening. I don't think I ever spent more than 5 minutes in the waiting room.

Warning: the ladies in those shops are very friendly but there won't be any FS on the menu (but pretty much anything else goes as long as respect of the lady is involved) and the gals are older. I always enjoyed my times there (about 10 times now).[/QUOTE]Taratata, thanks for the nice info and guide. Just one question, have you ever talked through a FS in any of your sessions? Do you recommend trying that or not?

[QUOTE=Tengu;1319068]Just finished getting a rather decent massage and FS (covered) for 1 mon yen for 40 minutes of service. No signage that I could see but it's pretty easy to find. Leave Gotanda station from the east exit, cross over to the giant Big Echo bldg. Go left around said building and take a right at the Jonathan's. Like I said there's no sign but there's usually? (actually the second one I visited this plac) a female tout hanging out on the street. Right across from a few male touts for, I'm guessing Japanese only places since they made no effort to get me. She takes you downstairs right between these guys and you come out 40 minutes later a much happier fellow. Wonder if it burns those guys to see her ferrying customers in and out right between them. I had "Yuki" from Thailand, big fake rack, but nice face and good technique, both massage and otherwise. Not a place to go if you want Japanese girls but for my money quite a good deal.[/QUOTE]Hard to find your place based on those instructions. Especially if the touts are not around.

1. What time do they open / close? What time of day did you visit?

2. Can you be more precise on the location? I understand from your instructions that Jonathons is on the corner of the street. But how far in from the main road is the shop. 20 metres. 50 metres? 100 metres? Is it on the left hand side of the street or the right side?

3. Are there any "landmarks" nearby. Opposite a carpark / hotel / rack of vending machines. From your description it seems the shop is in B1. Was their anything about the entrance / stairs that was descriptive. (eg. Next to vending machine, covered in pot plants, red hand rail. Anything?)

[QUOTE=ToBeDetermined;1319697]Taratata, thanks for the nice info and guide. Just one question, have you ever talked through a FS in any of your sessions? Do you recommend trying that or not?[/QUOTE]Dear ToBeDetermined, In my years of patronizing both NYNY and CHAMPS (a few steps around the corner) I would strongly advise you to not expect to negotiate FS. Once you go there, you'll quickly see that the atmosphere screams "No FS"; from the small windows in the doors to the demeanor of all older gals who work there, IMHO.