Tokyo

Hey Everyone,

Well I usually go to China and Taiwan for business trips and a little fun. But I have always wanted to go to Tokyo for some fun. My questions are:

* Is there any fun clubs / freebee's? Having a hardtime finding anything of the sort in the Tokyp forum?

* Seems like everything is a massage place. I would much rather have room serivice. Is this possible?

* Is Tokyo expensive for the hobby?

I am use to China and TW, those places are easy, as many girls there like americans. So usually not hard to find someone that wants to play. BUt my usual searches are coming up empty. I have tried ww dateinasia and really not much in Tokyo.

I guess what I am asking is, is there a fun scene there? Or do I need to go someplace else in Japan? Please any help will be great!

You are lucky you got a Japanese girl, rather than Chinese or Thai.

[QUOTE=Gobo42; 1358710]Yea, I wish you had told me yesterday. So I went back, and figured what the hell. Some guy came up to me and was saying japenese girls and sex, and I told him I don't really speak japanese (even though I do to some extent). That should have been my first clue. But he said it was ok he says come look at some pictures, and I figure at this point, I can just look at the pics. Then he says to follow him, and he leads me just outside kabukicho into the 4th floor of building. This should have been my second clue.

We go in this really small pink door and I sit down while he gets a picture book. I will admit that the pics looked good, and I was thinking with my little head more than the one on my shoulders at this point. I have a moment of clarity and am about to leave so he goes from 25k to 22k for an hour, and I say what the hell, I'll TOFTT and try one. I pay and then I'm escorted to a dimly lit room with a much larger girl in it. Def bait and switch. I'll admit she was japanese, but she def wasn't the girl in the picture. I'm all about to leave at this point, but she's promising good service and I already paid, so I didn't think I was getting it back. I undress and then she leads me to a small shower. I just quickly rinse off because I'm not thinking someone's going through my wallet now, and I'm now back in the room. I lie down and then the upsell begins. She's asking for another 5k for BJ and CFS. I told her I gave the guy all my cash, and it takes her a while to understand this.

Finally she puts on a condom and gives a half hearted CBJ to get me ready. I get mish and she stops me just as I finish (I think she was going to ask for more $$). Anyway, another quick shower thinking about my wallet and then she starts handing me my clothes again (I discreetly checked my wallet, all good) and I'm out of there, no more than 20 mins after I walked in. All in all I wish I went back to Himawari.[/QUOTE]

I've just found this interesting article today:

[url]http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/12/10/get-laid-get-paid-japanese-adult-video-company-recruiting-sex-industry-reviewers/[/url]

It seems like SOD has decided to help us reviewing fuzoku, and is asking for volunteers to do so!

Seems like the greatest plan ever; but as always, it is only for Japanese.

Anyway, once the database will be available, it could be really helpful.

I had a mixed experience during my three nights stay in Tokyo. Being a huge JAV fan, I was really looking forward for the trip. I was initially planning to venture south after reading about the RLD there. However, I cancelled it in the last minute as I am not so sure if I will be able to find an accommodation close to the area. For the record, I am brown and don't speak Japanese at all except for the three or four pleasantries. So, I am not sure if I could readily find the place without getting proper direction. Hence, for the first night, I stayed in business hotel in Ikebukuro. 2nd night was in Hotel Shiroigawa Shinjuku and 3rd night was in Hotel Wako Shinjuku (tempted to try love hotel as described by some review).

Ikebukuro is the best place to stay IMO compared to Shinjuku. Even though its nightlife is less happening than the later, Ikebukuro does have all the type that Shinjuku offered and better place to roam. I had huge problem pushing away all those black touts hanging around Shinjuku. They just didn't understand the word no. At every junction they will follow me like housefly. I did follow one of them, but it turns out he just took me to an European girls' hostess bar. The cover fee is 4000 yen, but I didn't enter as I already had a great trip to Berlin a few weeks ago. I tried three massage places in Shinjuku, all offered shower, and great massage for around 6000. 8000 yen / hour with HJ additional 5000 yen. Girls are from China and Japan. I didn't take the extra as unfortunately unlike other countries that I have been, the girl won't let me roam their body freely or undress. Other places in Shinjuku are catered to mostly Japanese speaking people. Even if they let you in, you won't enjoy it as the idea was more about teasing and companion, rather than fuck and shoot. If I were to visit again, I would definitely stay in Ikebukuro.

Day after I finished my business meeting, I visited Yoshiwara, the RLD of Tokyo. I took the train to Minowa station and ride a cab to the place. Well this place score average to me compared to other RLD I have been to. It's nothing like Amsterdam or even Geylang. I didn't see any girls on the street. All the streets were lined with dozens of soapland with the touts / doorman smartly dressed outside in the street. The advertised price ranged from 15000. 35000 yen / 120min. Half of them invite me in even though I mentioned that I don't speak Japanese. I approached one of the soapland and was told that the advertised price is just a cover fee and the real price after adding a few more charges goes to triple that amount. Holy shit. I looked into their album and just say that I don't like any of them. Well, some are admittedly cute but I don't think I would pay 90000 yen for a fuck. Well then, they lowered the price to 75000 for A class girl. Looking at the album, the girls in this class does looks like the JAV girls that I dreamt of. However, I quickly declined when I was told that there is 20% surcharge to use credit card. Wow, rip off. So, I went to another soapland. The same rules seem to apply here too. But, it seems that the manager is a bit flexible and asked me what is my price since I said it's too expensive. Taking the previous outlet as reference, I said 50k yen for everything. He straight away agreed. Damn, should have asked for lower amount. Well I did ask, and they lowered only until 45k yen. Well, service wise, I was a bit disappointed as I asked for a slender girl with big breast. The one that showed up is Reisa, chubby and A cup. Face is only 5/10. The room is shabby and worst than a Phuket soapland room. First, she washed me and then straight to bed. Yes, that's it. No slithering on the air mattress, no bath tub session, no massage. But she did give a good fuck. FK all the way. She almost make it raw but I refused and request for cover. She moaned and shivered like a great orgasm front and back. After the session, all the managers lined up and kneeled down saying something in Japanese. Well that boost my ego a bit and so I didn't complain.

My third night was where I fucked up. Staying in love hotel let you watch non stopped JAV channel so my libido peaked again. I was actually looking for the so called Image Club in Shinjuku but can't really find a clue where it is. Maybe it is written in Japanese. This is where I had the big misfortune meeting a Japanese tout with herpes scar under his lip, that offered me Japanese girl for 20k yen to my hotel. I agreed and he took me to a club that require me to pay that money first before entering. Well, I am not paying something I didn't see, and they won't let me see without paying. Fair enough. So I refused. The tout brought me to his friend who showed pictures full of beautiful Japanese. Now it was late and I thought I want to end it quickly. So, I said ok, when suddenly he said the price is 30k yen, to pay upfront. Well the first tout had left, and this second tout keep saying that this is standard for foreigner. Stupidly I obliged and pay. Then, he passed me to his other friend who require deposit of 20k yen. Now, this sounds really funny. I of course refused but also keeping in my mind that he is already holding my 30k yen. I tried to take it back but he refused to give me. I should have stop but at that time I was thinking that maybe I should make the money worth. They keep saying that this is just deposit and will be returned after I finish my session. So I only agreed to pay 10k deposit. The third tout insists that I followed him to his hotel even though the first agreement was to my hotel. Since the first tout is now missing, I just agreed and just keep thinking of making my money worth. He took me to an upstairs hotel, Love Everlasting. The third tout now request another 20k yen to rent the room. I said no as there are already so much that I gave. Once entered the hotel, the manager took me to a lounge. At this point the third tout disappear. The manager request 15k as room rent. Damn, and the earlier touts said that all are in the 30k that I gave earlier. The manager and his buddy now threatening me and I know I am totally trapped now. The tout already nowhere to be seen. So much for being adventurous. The room given was very bad, the size and furniture of a massage room. The manager even warned me that its only for an hour and I have to pay extra if I exceed – I don't plan to stay. Feeling for the worst, I quickly hide my money in my socks as I said that's it. The girl came after 30 min and really the opposite of the photo. Like a drug addict with tattoo on the right leg. Worst, she try to squeeze another 20k from me. I showed my wallet is empty except for a couple of my local currency (worth 5k yen). She suddenly grabbed the money and dash out saying she is looking for condom. I chased her out but the hotel is a maze. At this point the hotel manager came and said that my time is up. This time I am really burned. So, yes everyone, I know I am an idiot. So, no need to tell me twice. Just telling this to let you be aware. Better to lose some, rather than to lose more.

All.

Some DH services offer a 3P 2 Guy. 1 Girl option.

It seems natural to me to assume that the 2 Guys would both be customers. That is, you go with a friend and double team girl.

However, since this is Japan you should not assume anything.

Does anybody know if the above is true? Or if you want the 2 Guy. 1 Girl option, does that mean that you and some guy from the shop will double team the girl?

Meiji.

I saw on another message board that you are looking for gaijin-OK KDH.

In my experience, Clover and Eve are both gaijin OK.

However, to be honest, I was seriously underwhelmed with the quality of the girls.

I think the benefit of KDH is that you have guaranted BBFS with ND.

Pururngang and Milky Baby in this area are both gaijin OK. Although they are not ordinary DH services in that they both feature girls with some unusual physical feature.

To get rejected by that many places, though, I wonder if you were doing something to turn the shops off? Not trying to be rude, just saying. .

You can see some hotass chicks walking around the north exit of Ikebukuro station, on their way to work. None of those Japanese nanpa guys ever seem to bother them either.

[QUOTE=OldGeezer; 1358508]Due to a work function I found myself in Ikebukuro at midday on Sunday. I have not visited there for the longest time so did not have any idea where to visit and decided just to take a walk around.

Started at the north exit where many places had a nice A4 already at the door to tell "Japanese only" in English, Chinese and Korean. Visited at least Marin, Max, Idol and Kadoebi and was told the same by apologizing tenchoos.

Found also a big number of massage places with pictures of the service providers in tiny bikinis and with notes "we do not offer sex services". Do they or do they not is unclear but did not want to take the risk so passed these.

Moved then to the east side and was similarly refused in the Mxy shop as well as two others which names I already forgot.

Was not approached by the touts a single time which makes me think the whole are is not gaijin friendly at all. If that is true it is a really pity as I saw several 9's and at least one 10 on their way to work so there must be some good shops around the station too.[/QUOTE]

You have to speak pretty decent Japanese to book with Milky Baby. My low level Japanese is enough to get me through day to day life, from one end of the country to the other by train and bus, and through dozens of mongering experiences and one night stands, but it wasn't enough for me to book an appointment with Milky Baby.

roy, sounds like you really should have rtff buddy. you probably walked right past 2 dozen hands on peep shows, pink salons, jack shacks, hotel health and delivery health options.

I actually just ran across one of those today on erouto-style. Net (I don't know if that place is gaijin friendly). From the description of the 'reverse 3P' it's 2 customers / one girl, and the total paid is twice as much.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1360041]All.

Some DH services offer a 3P 2 Guy. 1 Girl option.

It seems natural to me to assume that the 2 Guys would both be customers. That is, you go with a friend and double team girl.

However, since this is Japan you should not assume anything.

Does anybody know if the above is true? Or if you want the 2 Guy. 1 Girl option, does that mean that you and some guy from the shop will double team the girl?[/QUOTE]

I recently traveled back to Japan for vacation. During one of my off days I ventured out to get in trouble. I headed to sugamo solo without a working cellphone. Japan does not have a whole lot of free wifi spots so I knew my chances aren't very good. On top to of that, I did not have a map or an accurate address of JanJan. But I was determined to get there.

Upon arriving at sugamo JR station, I wondered the streets near the station and did indeed encounter several service shops but none were called JanJan. There was no tout around so I decided to hop into a manga Internet cafe to check the area out a little bit. After 15 minutes of searching I headed out again to look for a shop that was called flying castle or something. When I arrived at the street, it was under construction. I found the shop in a 2F building. As it happens the basement had a sign that said cosmos (or cosmic) something. An old tout stood outside and approached me. It was 3k for a blowjob. I thought why not, I was pretty tired.

I paid the guy 3k and was led into a room almost completely deprived of light. I wasn't given a choice on the girls. I sat down and wast told to drop my pants. A few minutes later a woman in her late 30s, chubby, and a 3/10 showed up. A little too late to make for the door I thought. So I went on with it. She wiped me down and begun to give me a very decent BBBJ. A few minutes later I came in her mouth. She did the spit on a towel and cleaned me up. As she went to get cleaned up I got dressed and decided to leave. Said bye at the entrance. Funny thing the construction watch guard saw me go in and watched me come out. I stared at him for a few minutes and left.

After leaving sugamo I left for Shinjuku. A brief break at Starbucks, I decided to hit up one more spot and off to Kabukicho I went. Upon arriving kabukicho, I walked directly towards the center square. It seems that the area is under renovation. Not stopping I continued walking until I arrived at Hinomaru. One staff stood outside and waved at me. Asked me if I was looking for Hinomaru. I nodded and was taken in. Paid the 4k due in the front I was able to pick Maria from the photo line up. This was around 2pm on a Wednesday so it was quite empty inside. To my surprise the room was much brighter than previous one. I sat at a couch all the way in the front, Maria showed up a few minutes later. She was slender, perhaps mid 30s and pretty.

I dropped my jeans and she wiped me off and went to work. She gave a very decent BBBJ. While she was working my hands were allowed to go anywhere I wished as she was semi nude and had her panty off. Great experience. Got cleaned up and off back to Chiba to meet up with my wife.

Hinomaru looked like to be in a very old hostess club. Maria had a great personality. Recommended!

[QUOTE=Roy2920;1359723]. So, yes everyone, I know I am an idiot. So, no need to tell me twice. Just telling this to let you be aware. Better to lose some, rather than to lose more.[/QUOTE]You may be an "idiot" but at least you are not trying to hide the facts form anyone, and you help others not to make the same mistakes.

Be thanked for that.

I assume you did not have the time to read the forum before your trip, where you would have found quite a lot of info, helping you to avoid those traps.

As regards Yoshiwara, there are upmarket soaplands with the double price system, but many are "standard" price, and the cost is normally less than 30000 yen for low end places, like the one you have been. No wonder the guy happily took your 50000 offer.

Shinjuku; fully agree, not a place to successfully monger, but fun to wander around, strip theaters, pink salons can be fun. But the touts are a nightmare.

Hopefully, you will have a better time next time.

[quote]Shinjuku; fully agree, not a place to successfully monger, but fun to wander around, strip theaters, pink salons can be fun. But the touts are a nightmare.[/quote]I see this said a lot but I never really understand it. I can think of at least 9 shops in Shinjuku including the stuff you just mentioned plus rub and tugs, oppai pubs, delivery health and hotel health.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1360146]I see this said a lot but I never really understand it. I can think of at least 9 shops in Shinjuku including the stuff you just mentioned plus rub and tugs, oppai pubs, delivery health and hotel health.[/QUOTE]It makes perfect sense to me. The barrier to hobbying for the one-time traveller to Tokyo is extremely high compared to someone that is here regularly or lives here. Even IF you exclude the people that don't do their research, get drunk, and then get essentially robbed to the tune of 5 man, you are still talking about people that have the language barrier, the unfamiliarity of the streets and address system, and the lack of a smart phone in order to overcome these or other obstacles. The first time I came to Japan, I thought the area immediately west of Shinjuku station was 3 or 4 times as large as it really is, because I didn't have Google maps. I kept getting lost and disorientated, and the west side of Shinjuku is minuscule compared to the east side.

It's easy to explain to someone how to find Hinomaru if they know Kabukicho and know basic Japanese, because Hinomaru is on the giant marquee in lights, but someone that knows no Japanese and hasn't been to Shinjuku before is going to have a hard time finding the right train exit or place for the taxi to drop them off, much less find that building in Kabukicho. People in that position practically have to plan things out, and then print out maps to guide them. Not many people are going to go through all that effort, given that getting P4P action for many guys is a spur of the moment proposition. And the Nigerian touts take advantage of that.

It's obvious that those guys wouldn't be there, and the Chinese and other providers that whisper 'want massaji? ' at you when you are walking by them near the love hotel area wouldn't be speaking English if they didn't have a market to sell to (or rip off). It's not like if, in a magical world, all the touts and ripoff artists disappeared tomorrow, that foreigners would have no problems getting action in Kabukicho. They'd just wander around, getting ignored by all the tenchos, looking for a needle in a haystack.

IDK man, I've never used a smart phone in Japan. Don't want to pay a deposit for a sim card and realize there is almost no wifi to be found for temporary visitors. Been there about a dozen times, never more than a week at once. Found every single place I ever looked for without a problem. It's pretty simple to find a place online then put the address in Google maps. The exits on the train stations are named or numbered, and the names / numbers show up on Google maps. Just remember or write down the directions. That's what I've always done. I find that Tokyo is one of the easiest non-English speaking cities to navigate in the world.

Anyway, yeah you can get lost anywhere. Some people easier than others I guess. My ex-girlfriend got lost going to the bathroom. I always got fucked up driving on the DC beltway before GPS.

That's fine.

I'm saying I don't understand why so many people seem to say there is nothing but scams on offer in Shinjuku or even Kabukicho. There are 10-12 places there where a gaijin can walk right in and get service. And I've never once been approached by a tout there (I guess I just lucked out? Seems to be pretty common.).

It's probably one of the easier places to find action in Tokyo as a foreigner. At least with such a wide selection. It's nothing like the Fukuoka red light district which is totally off limits to gaikokojin.