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[QUOTE=Carberry]For a good straight massage, try Asian Feeling/Relax in Shinjuku/Kabukicho and choose the basic or the powder service. HR is provided with the oil service. The ladies are nearly all Thai, and a couple of Chinese. If you want a massage from a Japanese girl, another member must recommend -- there are any number of Este or Health shops in Kabukicho.Villa spa in Ebisu has been recommended for strictly straight massage by Japanese ladies.For the evening, if you are already in the Shinjuku area obviously there are plenty of choices in Kabukicho and you probably have enough Japanese speaking skill and kana skill to find something, especially as there are touts who will approach western looking guys. Hinomaru is a gaijin friendly pink salon.Alternatively, Grimpeur in Shibuya is within easy reach and foreigner friendly for good love hotel health.If money is tight, head up to Sugamo and sample the varied delights of Janjan, which is more of a budget pink salon. (No website.)Alternatively, return to your hotel and order in from AM if you do not mind the ladies usually being more mature. Pre-booking Manami of Tokyo Melty Kiss will reportedly guarantee you a hectic evening. Club Boo is well known and probably worth pre-booking if you want to be sure. FS is generally available from the AM ladies and the CB girls are also known to provide though usually ask for a tip.There are several other escort type services aimed at foreigners. They are more expensive than CB and AM and have not been well reported on in this thread, so I will only mention Nasty Dolls which has been mentioned in previous reports.If you still have the energy (what it is to be young!) then a Soapland must be on your schedule for the next day. As I have no experience in that area, I leave it to the rest of the board to make sensible recommendations. There has been a fair bit of Soap activity on the board lately, so I expect you easily find some info.[url]http://www.asian-feeling.net/information_english.html[/url][url]http://www.villa.vc/[/url][url]http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/top.php?page=s[/url][url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php[/url][url]http://www.asianmystique.com/top.html[/url][url]http://www.clubboo.jp/frames/home.htm[/url][url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url][url]http://www.nasty-dolls.jp/?c=index[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the help. I've looked at soaplands and searched the forum but I still am unsure what price I could expect to pay and which are in the immediate area. I've seen it could be 2-3x the entrance.Thanks.
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Re: Health @ Shibuya
[QUOTE=Hitori De]Would you mind sharing the details?[/QUOTE]I've shared a lot of info on this board, but this one I take to the grave (to paraphrase George Costanza). As I noted, this has been my go-to for, like, twelve years, and I'm not willing to risk them going "no gaijin" on me for any reason. My reason for asking was mostly curiosity as to why this shop hasn't been outed on the boards at some point over the years, as I know that they do have some foreign customers. Either it's fewer than I thought (and no one active on this board) or the other guys recognize the need to keep it safe and secure as well.If you wander around the back streets of Dogenzaka for long enough you are bound to stumble on it (that's how I found it). If you do, show it the respect it deserves.ES
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Yuri in Nippori
Just got back from Tokyo a few days ago and was able to play around a bit more this trip so here is my experiences at Yuri. I was able to go twice to Yuri with one visit being very good and the other not.First visit to the place was kind of tricky to find as the map makes it seem to be a straight road but when you get off the train and head down the steps, it opens into an area with multiple paths. The trick is to stay to the left and pass under the Nippori train staition sign. The road there leads to Yuri very quickly. Went up the stairs and a guy opened up the door and ushered me into a small room with a small couch and a view of the camera watching the entrance. I pointed to the sign for 8500 yen and gave him the money and got my change. Then waited for a minute before he came back and directed me to a girl named Kao. Very pretty brunette with a nice body and very friendly attitude. We went into one of the booths where I took off my clothing and went with her to the shower room(nasty looking). She was quite good with the shower, playing around with my family jewels before we headed back to the booth. Once inside, we began with some DFK, BBBJ, DATY and various other foreplay which she really seemed to like. This is important to me as I am a slow starter and really enjoy playing with a woman's body for a while before getting to business. She got really wet naturally from the foreplay and seemed to enjoy various positions including doggy style before I finished for the day. She also really liked having her butt played with so anyone who enjoys a little rimming will love her. After we finished, she gave me a short massage before another shower and I was soon on my way back to the hotel a happy camper.After that nice experience, I returned a few days later to try my luck again and ended up with Mimi. Very nice looking girl but totally not into it. Noticed that her shower technique was not as fun as Kao's so I was already a bit disappointed and when we began play, it was confirmed. No kissing at all, she immediately grabbed some lotion and started using her hands(no BJ) and quickly started pointing to the rubber. I told her not yet and had her lie down so I could play with her but she positioned herself so it was difficult to play with her tits and when I went to DATY, she kept her hands on my face pulling me up and making it difficult to do anything. At this point, I was kind of pissed and when she pointed at the rubber I said yes even though I had lost interest. Tried mish and doggy but no good as her attitude had totally turned me off and I faked a hip injury to put a stop to it. On the plus side, since we had some time left she gave me a good massage and she really knew how to do that at least so after maybe 10-15 minutes, time was up. We showered again and she acted kind of playful, possibly sensing my disappointment and ushered me out the door. The guy was nowhere to be seen and I got the feeling he was hiding because he knew her service was not so good and didn't want to hear a complaint. Since I didn't want to ruin the place for us, I kept my mouth shut, smiled and walked out.Bottom line: Good place with chinese girls but avoid Mimi at all costs and if you speak J, tell the owner you want a girl who is really into it. If I could speak J, I might have said something to the guy about the service quality right at the start but I was concerned about messing things up. Not sure if this is even a good idea when playing around so I'll let the veterans say when its appropriate to complain about a girls service. One more report on NYNY but I'll do that later. Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Hi guys,yesterday I was around Uguisudani and decided to stop for a few hours to enjoy my favorite hobby. I mentioned the KDH agency chance [url]http://www.chancedh.com/main.html[/url] in a few of my posts before. It seems there any many things happening in the KDH world so I thought it would be helpful to other mongers to post my findings.My experience yesterdayInstead of picking up a girl on the website as I usually do, I decide to let the mama-san pick up a girl for me according to my requirements. I asked for a girl with nice breasts(D-cup or higher), young, and very yasashii(nice and easy-going). She recommended naisu(nice?) and I decided to take a 100 min course. Enters nice, she is very tall(165cm-), thin, nice breasts(D-cup), very young looking and she was wearing a very sexy one piece dress. She is the girl on the website + some photoshoping. After she entered the room we started kissing, she was very into it, slowing putting her hands in and out of my pants. I am not used to get this good of an attitude from Korean girls so I was a bit surprised, and very looking forward to the session. We moved to the shower, again lots of kissing, she washed me, rubbing herself on me, again much better than I usually get from KHD. We moved to the bed, lots of kissing, multiple positions, she was very into it, overall a very good experience.About NaisuShe told me she just came to Japan 2 weeks ago, she's 21(from her looks I'd say most likely true, not older than 25), she looked like a model.Age/Looks/Japanese levelIt seems the economic situation is pushing many girls from Korea to come to Japan. A few months ago, I remember a girl telling me that few girls wanted to come to Japan because the won was so high and they weren't making money in Japan. Looks like now, with the won so low and yen so high, lots of Korean girls are coming to Japan to make a few bucks(or yen). In other words :- Quality is on the riseThe last few girls I had from chance were all model type, less than 25, tall (all 165cm or more), extremely beautiful. - Japanese level is decliningThe last 3 girls I had could barely speak any Japanese. Yesterday Naisu could not speak a word at all. Her English was also extremely limited which confirms my theory that they are coming to Japan to get the now very worthy Japanese yen. Unfortunately this makes conversation very difficult, just a few months ago most girls from KDH could speak quite fluent Japanese.- What it means for mongersWell, for those of us unaffected by the current economic situation, we can now sleep with Korean models for a very affordable price. As long as the yen stays high, 20-21 Korean models will come working in Japan.About Chance- Chance is a KDH agency around Uguisudani, they do not offer the usual special(2000 yen rebate) the other agencies offer, price are 20000 for 80min/25000 for 100min.2 shots on goal allowed for the 100 min course. Japanese is required to book a girl, non-Japanese looking foreigners are very welcome.Have fun guys![/QUOTE]Hi Gifuboy,Good to hear this news. But I wonder how would it be like if/when I do go there in Aug :P Hope to meet up with you for a chance to try out the lady at Chance if I do go then!
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Club Boo girls
[QUOTE=Hikaru] Has anyone had a date with Akubi or Erina? I heard good and bad reviews about Akubi, but nothing much about Erina.[/QUOTE] All of the girls currently on the menu at CB have been there for at least a couple of years. Except Kana, I think. I believe she started in the last year or so. I left Tokyo about 2 years ago. For the last year before I left my "regular" at CB was Haruka. I know I had been with every other CB girl there at the time, except Lime (and Hime who has never been on the schedule or available, so I have my doubts...). I sampled everything on the menu at one time or another. I never had a disappointing experience with any of the CB girls, though I never kept notes, so can't recall any specifics. I can verify my "****-dom", as once I had a girl over. Had no idea I had ever booked her before, and didn't recognize her when she came to my apartment. She said something along the lines of "good to see you again" or something. I'm sure she likely remembered my apartment, and not so much me. I didn't catch it. But she joked about a picture I had taken previously, which I then realized who she was. Went and got the picture, and played it off like I remembered everything. That girl was Tsuru, because I wrote her name on the photo so I wouldn't forget again (from CB, I think, maybe AM), a very friendly, fun girl. Never did keep notes or anything, but never recall a disappointing experience from CB. Only a couple of minor disappointments from AM. One girl there insisted on a CBJ, but that was several years ago and I'm fairly certain she didn't work there long. My plan C, when CB and AM were both closed, was a KDH, 10,000 Yen Roppongi, or something like that. Not even sure if it's still around. Supporting the notion of "you get what you pay for". I will say though that it seems that CB has gotten a little stale. I believe Kana is the only new girl since I left 2 years ago.
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Hi Jim,just get off at Uguisudani(鶯谷) station on the Yamanote line, north exit. There are tons of love hotels, just pick one, prices range from 5000 to 10000 yen for 3 hours. KDH expect you to get a room first, then you call them. No problem getting a room even if you're alone. Please post a report about your experience/findings.[QUOTE=Basementcello]Thanks for the great tip, gifuboy. I am thinking of giving them a call soon as I speak Japanese too. Do you usually arrange to meet at a hotel or on the street? I dont know Uguisudani that well and was wondering what is a decent hotel to use?Jim[/QUOTE]
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Pink Salons?
Anyone have links to any sites that have videos showing the inside of pink salons? I reside in Hawaii where there is nothing resembling pink salons here, I am very intrigued however at the idea of visiting a pink salon and may have to take a trip one day.Thanks
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Thanks Gifuboy, will do.BTW, I noticed on their website that they have a "kaiten course" for 30, 000 where you can have 2 girls, for an hour each. Looks interesting! Have the girls you've met there so far been decent?[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Hi Jim,just get off at Uguisudani(鶯谷) station on the Yamanote line, north exit. There are tons of love hotels, just pick one, prices range from 5000 to 10000 yen for 3 hours. KDH expect you to get a room first, then you call them. No problem getting a room even if you're alone. Please post a report about your experience/findings.[/QUOTE]
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hey jim,i have never tried the hanabirakaiten(花びら回転) course, i know you cannot choose the girls. the last 3 girls i met from chance, naisu, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] and aria where all model types, less than 25 and tall. you can private message me if you need more detailed information.good luck![quote=basementcello]thanks gifuboy, will do.btw, i noticed on their website that they have a "kaiten course" for 30, 000 where you can have 2 girls, for an hour each. looks interesting! have the girls you've met there so far been decent?[/quote]
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Gorgeous (Nishi-Nippori)
[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]For those who are curious, the website for this place can be found at:[url]http://www.2007carnival.com/toppage.html[/url]I don't know for sure, but the service list includes a "maru-hi" or "top secret" service listed, so I would be surprised if they don't include honban.[/QUOTE]Finally I went there today. Monday at 2pm. Very near the JR (or Chiyoda) station, only 1mn walk, and at that time of the day, no waiting this is good. I didn't really trust the photos (too good looking) so I asked the manager for the girl with the best service I picked Hikaru. Needless to say, the photos were all fake or heavily photoshopped, and the girl was really not pretty, though still young (26? ). She was Chinese and told me all the other girls were Chinese as well. I was a bit disappointed, but hey for 9000 yens, you get what you pay for, I wasnt expecting much.After shower, playtime. She started to undress and kissing and licking me, which I liked a lot, then started to approach little joe, which surprisingly to me was quite excited. She started BBBJ but I preferred to put on a condom at that stage (I got some painful memories for not having done so in the past) so CBJ & 69.Then without needing to ask, FS was ok. She told me she never had a European size so she was quite delighted with little Joe, and expressing herself loudly, so I decided to come rather quickly because I was afraid to be turned off if I didn't take that chance (remember she was not that pretty.)So a quickie. Lasted less than 60mns one pop only, but quite cheap and convenient. Maybe some of the other girls provide good service and are more pretty? The place itself is quite low end. Clearly not the Hilton.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Hi guys,yesterday I was around Uguisudani and decided to stop for a few hours to enjoy my favorite hobby. I mentioned the KDH agency chance [url]http://www.chancedh.com/main.html[/url] in a few of my posts before. It seems there any many things happening in the KDH world so I thought it would be helpful to other mongers to post my findings.My experience yesterdayInstead of picking up a girl on the website as I usually do, I decide to let the mama-san pick up a girl for me according to my requirements. I asked for a girl with nice breasts(D-cup or higher), young, and very yasashii(nice and easy-going). She recommended naisu(nice?) and I decided to take a 100 min course. Enters nice, she is very tall(165cm-), thin, nice breasts(D-cup), very young looking and she was wearing a very sexy one piece dress. She is the girl on the website + some photoshoping. After she entered the room we started kissing, she was very into it, slowing putting her hands in and out of my pants. I am not used to get this good of an attitude from Korean girls so I was a bit surprised, and very looking forward to the session. We moved to the shower, again lots of kissing, she washed me, rubbing herself on me, again much better than I usually get from KHD. We moved to the bed, lots of kissing, multiple positions, she was very into it, overall a very good experience.About NaisuShe told me she just came to Japan 2 weeks ago, she's 21(from her looks I'd say most likely true, not older than 25), she looked like a model.Age/Looks/Japanese levelIt seems the economic situation is pushing many girls from Korea to come to Japan. A few months ago, I remember a girl telling me that few girls wanted to come to Japan because the won was so high and they weren't making money in Japan. Looks like now, with the won so low and yen so high, lots of Korean girls are coming to Japan to make a few bucks(or yen). In other words :- Quality is on the riseThe last few girls I had from chance were all model type, less than 25, tall (all 165cm or more), extremely beautiful. - Japanese level is decliningThe last 3 girls I had could barely speak any Japanese. Yesterday Naisu could not speak a word at all. Her English was also extremely limited which confirms my theory that they are coming to Japan to get the now very worthy Japanese yen. Unfortunately this makes conversation very difficult, just a few months ago most girls from KDH could speak quite fluent Japanese.- What it means for mongersWell, for those of us unaffected by the current economic situation, we can now sleep with Korean models for a very affordable price. As long as the yen stays high, 20-21 Korean models will come working in Japan.About Chance- Chance is a KDH agency around Uguisudani, they do not offer the usual special(2000 yen rebate) the other agencies offer, price are 20000 for 80min/25000 for 100min.2 shots on goal allowed for the 100 min course. Japanese is required to book a girl, non-Japanese looking foreigners are very welcome.Have fun guys![/QUOTE]Arent the photos fake? I used another KDH in the past (playboy [url]http://www.play-b.com/[/url] but the original site disappeared), and I remember they used the same photos than chancedh, though based in Shinagawa/Gotanda.Prices were about the same, and the girls quite good looking (see previous reports) anyway how many sites with non-fake photos? I'd like to know.
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[quote=gifuboy]hey jim,i have never tried the hanabirakaiten(花びら回転) course, i know you cannot choose the girls. the last 3 girls i met from chance, naisu, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] and aria where all model types, less than 25 and tall. you can private message me if you need more detailed information.good luck![/quote]actually what does that course do anyway? 1 girl rotate for an hour each one after another? not too sure where the 2nd lady will be though :p
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Any freebie action in Tokyo
Hi guys, I'll be in Tokyo for some days in July. I regularly browse this site but according to my memory I never say any info concerning freebie activity in Tokyo? Is there anything comparable to Tong Ren Lu in Shanghai or Wan Chai in Hongkong! ? Thanks for some advise.Shamuc
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Hey Herpes,I know KDH are well-known for the fake photos. From my experience there are 3 kinds of KDH agencies.1. Completely fake, girl on the site are Korean models, whenever you ask for a girl she will always be available, they just send some girl that looks more or less like the girl you asked for.2. Partially fake, most of the girls on the site are real, popular girls are left on the site even after going back to Korea in order to keep the phone ringing.3. Totally real. All the girls on the site are real, girls who go back to Korea are promptly removed.Chance is category 2, I have met some of their girls and they were the girls on the site. Perhaps after someone becomes are regular customer, they no longer send fake girls. K-girls is category 3, all their girls are real. If you ask for a girl that is not available they will tell you right away. I even once asked for a girl with large breasts and they told me no one was available(how honest!), some fake agency would have sent any girl hoping I would not refuse her...The most difficult is to find type 2,3 agencies, once you find them, stick with them!! :) I invite members of the forum to report on KDH to help us identify fake and real KDH agencies.hanabirakaiten course is 2 girls for 1 hour each. You have fun with one girl for one hour, then she leaves, another girl comes, another hour of fun then she leaves. Good luck![QUOTE=Herpes]Arent the photos fake? I used another KDH in the past (playboy [url]http://www.play-b.com/[/url] but the original site disappeared), and I remember they used the same photos than chancedh, though based in Shinagawa/Gotanda.Prices were about the same, and the girls quite good looking (see previous reports) anyway how many sites with non-fake photos? I'd like to know.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Hikaru from Gorgeous (Nishi-Nippori)
Little Joe has a hangover. Ouch. Needed to see the doc again.You'd better ask for another girl, and anyway take your precautions. I remind readers of this forum, that BBBJ can certainly bring you a lot of bad things, and even a condom is not 100% efficient against everything. In that specific case, the girl licked my balls for a minute then put it in her mouth a few seconds before I said stop, lets put rubber, but the damage was already done it seems.Btw it would be appreciated if some readers having similar distateful experiences give the list of 'suspect' girls or shops who willingly let them on the loose. So we can avoid them.Also if you have some techniques or tricks to avoid this kind of incidents, theyre welcome.
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[QUOTE=Gifuboy]K-girls is category 3, all their girls are real. If you ask for a girl that is not available they will tell you right away. I even once asked for a girl with large breasts and they told me no one was available(how honest!), some fake agency would have sent any girl hoping I would not refuse her...[/QUOTE]Actually, K-girls did bait and switch with me once. They sent a girl who was not who I asked for and who had just come to the country the day before (as I found out later, when she was giving me her cell phone number). But I took her anyway, because she was cute. Of course, this doesn't mean that B&S is there standard practice. NonStop ([url]http://www.nonstopin.com/[/url]) seems to make some effort to send the real girl. I was told the first two girls I asked for weren't available and the girl they sent was definitely the girl in the photo, although heavily photoshopped.
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Huh?
[QUOTE=Shamuc]Hi guys, I'll be in Tokyo for some days in July. I regularly browse this site but according to my memory I never say any info concerning freebie activity in Tokyo? Is there anything comparable to Tong Ren Lu in Shanghai or Wan Chai in Hongkong! ? Thanks for some advise.Shamuc[/QUOTE]Shamuc - A little confused about your question... Freebies and TRL/Wan Chai in the same breath is like saying jumbo shrimp. The two ideas are mutually exclusive.To answer your question look in the Nampa thread for freebie info. Can be had, best places are the expat areas most notable is Roppongi area.As for the second part of your question about TRL type places... I have yet to find a place like Manhattan or Judy's anywhere in Tokyo. You can usually find some semi-pro's in places like Motown or Motown II in Roppongi but the place is a nuthouse on Friday and Saturday.You might also read the Tokyo Guide by Dire Wolf. Cheers
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What is pink salon?
Anyone have links to any sites that have videos showing the inside of pink salons? I reside in Hawaii where there is nothing resembling pink salons here, I am very intrigued however at the idea of visiting a pink salon and may have to take a trip one day.
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[QUOTE=Mumbaicop]Anyone have links to any sites that have videos showing the inside of pink salons? I reside in Hawaii where there is nothing resembling pink salons here, I am very intrigued however at the idea of visiting a pink salon and may have to take a trip one day.[/QUOTE]For a definition, try Wikipedia:[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_salon[/url]There are lots of videos. Just use the search string ピンサロ動画 and you should come up with plenty.Beyond that, RTFF.
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Here ya go
[QUOTE=Mumbaicop]Anyone have links to any sites that have videos showing the inside of pink salons? I reside in Hawaii where there is nothing resembling pink salons here, I am very intrigued however at the idea of visiting a pink salon and may have to take a trip one day.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.youporn.com/watch/182999/mai-haruna/[/url]I watched the first few minutes and its legit.
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Matsu69 / Huh?
[QUOTE=Matsu69]Shamuc - A little confused about your question... Freebies and TRL/Wan Chai in the same breath is like saying jumbo shrimp. The two ideas are mutually exclusive.To answer your question look in the Nampa thread for freebie info. Can be had, best places are the expat areas most notable is Roppongi area.As for the second part of your question about TRL type places... I have yet to find a place like Manhattan or Judy's anywhere in Tokyo. You can usually find some semi-pro's in places like Motown or Motown II in Roppongi but the place is a nuthouse on Friday and Saturday.You might also read the Tokyo Guide by Dire Wolf. Cheers[/QUOTE]Hi Matsu69,thanks for your help. Yes, you're right - question was confusing. What I searched are wg's which are still free to do what they want and where. And all the girls I met in Judy's/Manhattan or in the similar bars in Wanchai have been "free" in that sense..but actually they are no "freebies"...But thanks again, Shamuc.
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Western Escorts
Hey folks,Traveling to Tokyo soon. Was wondering if there are any recommendations for reliable western escort agencies. Google yielded quite a few (as expected).[url]http://www.angels-tokyo.com/gallery.php[/url][url]http://www.chocolatetokyoescort.com/gallery.php[/url]Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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Not good choices
[QUOTE=AGoodFella]Hey folks,Traveling to Tokyo soon. Was wondering if there are any recommendations for reliable western escort agencies. Google yielded quite a few (as expected).[url]http://www.angels-tokyo.com/gallery.php[/url][url]http://www.chocolatetokyoescort.com/gallery.php[/url]Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Gf, Why are you wasting time searching google? The escort agencies pulled in a google search are not trustworthy or out right rip-offs. Case in point is angels-tokyo you listed above. Has a link on the site that connects to some kind of Russian pw protected site. The Russian crapola is famous bait and switch or outright extortion arena. Stay away.Besides, both of these sites only have white chicks in their gallery! Is that what you are looking for? Probably better off searching the Tokyo thread for escort agencies. The two that are always mentioned are Club Boo and Asian Mystique. There is a third that is pretty popular run by a former AM girl. Manami. Run a search on any of these terms and you will be set.If you are looking for a white chick, there was a provider in the area some time back by the name of Basia. Good change of pace if you've been tapping the Asian sisters for too long. You can look in the classified thread for a way to contact her.Happy hunting!
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[QUOTE=Matsu69]Gf, Why are you wasting time searching google? The escort agencies pulled in a google search are not trustworthy or out right rip-offs. Case in point is angels-tokyo you listed above. Has a link on the site that connects to some kind of Russian pw protected site. The Russian crapola is famous bait and switch or outright extortion arena. Stay away.Besides, both of these sites only have white chicks in their gallery! Is that what you are looking for? Probably better off searching the Tokyo thread for escort agencies. The two that are always mentioned are Club Boo and Asian Mystique. There is a third that is pretty popular run by a former AM girl. Manami. Run a search on any of these terms and you will be set.If you are looking for a white chick, there was a provider in the area some time back by the name of Basia. Good change of pace if you've been tapping the Asian sisters for too long. You can look in the classified thread for a way to contact her.Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Matsu69, many thanks for the input and advice. Guess I'll just stick to the local "sushi"... I figured Tokyo was metropolitan enough to be able to tap some western ass... but it seems like its gonna be more miss than hit...
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Am Hits And Misses
I've been using AM for several years, and usually am extremely pleased. In Tokyo this week, I've had a hit and a miss.I think unfair to use names, and won't.Generally, I've found that AM has secured girls that genuinely like fucking. That was true with the first girl I test drove. Early 20's, no tats or weirdness, medium level english and extremely horny. Our two hours was spent chatting and fucking like old friends. She clearly wasn't faking excitement or orgasms. The true definition of GFE.Having mongered in BKK, MNL, and other popular locations I mostly believe that despite the higher cost, the chance of a real erotic experience is mostly tipped in favor of the Japanese.Number 2 looked good on paper, but was a starfish from dot one. Not particularly chatty, not particularly interested, and needed to "lube up" for the main event. Spent the rest of the time making small talk, not really interested in another non-event with her.This was surprised because over the years I've only had one other dud from AM. And that one was more due to immaturity rather than lack of interest.Thinking about a tie-breaker for tomorrow. We'll see.
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[QUOTE=Amerrican]I've been using AM for several years, and usually am extremely pleased. In Tokyo this week, I've had a hit and a miss.I think unfair to use names, and won't.[/QUOTE]To be fair, there's not much point in this post unless you name names. We all know there are hit and misses at any joint, and it's not just based on the girl, but also on a chemical reaction between provider and punter. That said, name and shame. Then if the boss sees this, he will tell the bad one that she messed up, and maybe next time she'll do a better job.
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Re: Huh?
[QUOTE=Amerrican]I think unfair to use names, and won't.[/QUOTE]Are you freakin' kidding? Name names, or begone. Don't waste our time.ES
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Moron...
[QUOTE=Amerrican]I think unfair to use names, and won't.[/QUOTE]Then, your posting is a total waste of space. I am a long time user of AM. Over that past year, the quality of providers at AM has seriously decreased. Most of us that use AM will greatly appreciate that you name names, as we do not enjoy wasting our money.
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No Names = No Info
[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Are you freakin' kidding? Name names, or begone. Don't waste our time.ES[/QUOTE]Right you are. If he's not going to give us the girl's name, why bother telling us she was from AM?
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Korean Delivery Health
I ran across these KDH sites for those who may be interested in checking them out.[url]http://www.storydh.com/main.html[/url][url]http://www.sakura-dh.com/main.html[/url][url]http://www.ororadh.com/main.html[/url][url]http://www.ainomemory.com/main.html[/url][url]http://www.mermaid-dh.com/index2.htm[/url][url]http://www.loveleta.com/main.html[/url][url]http://www.nudedh.jp/index.htm[/url]
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Ginza
Hello,I am spending my last night in Ginza today and I was hoping to have some fun with a J-Girl.Could anyone help out with some reccomendations of places and prices in Ginza?Much Appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Tokyo Plaxico]Right you are. If he's not going to give us the girl's name, why bother telling us she was from AM?[/QUOTE]Totally agree. What is the point of a report if you don't name names? This isn't Penthouse Forum.Do you feel the need to keep the "good" girl to yourself so that she won't ever sleep with another man? Do you feel the need to keep their "honor"? These are escorts paid to do a job. A report is simply telling potential clients whether they are good at that job or not. Nothing less, nothing more.At the very minimum tell us the girl you had the bad experience with -- or do you feel the need to keep that a secret as well?
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Hino Maru "remodel"
As a regular punter at HM (its 10 minutes from the office so hard to resist), i was a little dismayed a couple of weeks ago to find it shut one morning.Went back again last week to find they have re done the place. The top of the stairs and payment booth and waiting area is exactly the same, but once you go in that vast room with the crazy circular mirror is now I would estimate a 3rd of the size. Its like they built a wall at the old Row 5. This is not a surprise as generally I have found it pretty empty. The downside is that there is considerably less privacy (not that there was huge amount before). All seats are facing in the same direction as before, but because it is that much smaller, you are in closer proximity with other punters than you might like. As everyone should know - making eye contact or blimping at other punters or girls is very poor etiquette. Please no one fuck it up for us so it goes the way of Supergirls. All other aspects of the service are still the same (8K "no choice", 10K "choice". It does seem that the quality of the girls in the evening is higher. Still gaijin friendly but making the effort with Nihongo does no harm. BTW my strike rate at FS in there is about 1 in 4 (I never ask though, just see how it goes).[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Rtff...
[QUOTE=I Love Japan]I am spending my last night in Ginza today and I was hoping to have some fun with a J-Girl. Could anyone help out with some reccomendations of places and prices in Ginza?[/QUOTE]Well, you should have read through the forum long before your last night in Ginza.You're a little bit late.
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Am..Kotomi
Was a bit bored last evening so decided to have some company. Pinged AM and was surprised quite a few of the grils were available. I have never tried Kotomi, and frankly she is not really my type, but I was impressed by previous reports so thought I would give it a shot. Yes, as mentioned she is certainly older than the stated 33. However she is in good shape and has a nice body. Face is so-so. I had the two hour course. All in all not bad. She spent about an hour licking my balls and dick, which was good. She was not so great at deep throating it. But the licking was nice. I spent about 30 minutes DATY, and she seemed to enjoy it, said she came. But who knows. She had a nice pussy, and it was shaved! (rare in Japan, and how I like it) After the DATY, she went back to the oral session on my johnson. I had to ask her for itnercourse. (got the feeling she really didn't want to, just wanted the oral play) Any way, she said ok and saddled up. For an older pro. I have to say. She was very very tight. (My dick is not that big) this chick was spliting at the seams! Even with lube I thought I was going to split her open! I don't know how she does it. Maybe lots of Kegel exercises. In any case she rode me for about 15 minutes, then I rode her then her back on top. Finished that way. Would have liked the Anal play course. But was a little low on cash and couldn't swing the extra 15, 000yen. Anyway, once again AM delivers. Very Easy to set up, very prompt, and you get what you expect. Kotomi is nice, pleasant and reasonably attractive the tight snatch will encourage me to meet with her again.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Amerrican]I've been using AM for several years, and usually am extremely pleased. In Tokyo this week, I've had a hit and a miss.I think unfair to use names, and won't.[/QUOTE]Huh? Unfair? These girls aren't your GF or anything. They are WGs.They have names on the website (fake ones of course), and a positive review will help them make money-the whole reason they are in this line of work, don't forget.A negative review will hurt them slightly, maybe, but everyone knows YMMV. You have been "using them for several years" but only have 1 post in Japan-so don't hold back!
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Wtf??
[QUOTE=Amerrican]I think unfair to use names, and won't.[/QUOTE]What? Worthless report. Using for years? And not a single other report on AM? Dude. Waste of electrons to post what you did.
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Jan Jan in Sugamo
Well guys even though I had noticed that noone had mentioned this little gem of a place in a while, during my lunch break I decided to get on the train and see what there was to see.The instructions from previous posters was spot on, go out the South exit, you will see a small street to your left.As soon as I got near the street I could see a man in black waving at me."What?" I was thinking, then I saw the katakana sign ジャンジャン to his back and I thought to myself "Holy shit, this is the real deal"(side note: I have been trying for ages to get into a pink salon, only to be denied over and over even though my Japanese is fine and I am respectful so I was thrilled)I came in the door, down the stairs and the man at the bottom said "san zen yen" I handed him the 3000 yen (Im thinking holy shit, 3000 yen) and walks me to the back of the room into a little booth. Then brings me a oolong cha.After 5 or 6 minutes of nervous, smoking and sipping my tea a girl appeared. Her name is Haruka, and she was not half bad. Slim, nice hair, cute face and really nice personality. We chatted and I mentioned it was my first time. I dont know if she believed my, but I digress. She instructed me to take off my pants, which I did and she washed Mr. Happy with a cool cloth. After that she provided one of the best BBBJ and CIM I have ever in my life had.. like wow. (as a note I can rarely cum from BJ and usually need to assist manually or FS to finish...this girl was amazing but I guess sucking dick all day gives you plenty of practice).We chatted for a few after she cleaned me up, and I was on my way with her saying arigatou gozaimasu.I will definitely be back, shit that was cheaper than a love hotel.BY THE WAY: If you decide to visit PLEASE be respectful. If you cant speak Japanese just say NOTHING and enjoy. OK? This is the first Pink Salon I have gotten into in 4 years of being here.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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"UNCLE"
[QUOTE=Lion]Huh? Unfair? These girls aren't your GF or anything. They are WGs.You have been "using them for several years" but only have 1 post in Japan-so don't hold back![/QUOTE]Well I've been persuaded that at least naming the negative experience would be fair and helpful. Not by anything said here, btw.And those that have used AM, indeed any service using Japanese girls, would probably agree that the "working girl" situation in Japan is vastly different than places like the Phillipines and Thailand. This is what generally makes the Japanese experience different. The general diminution of the "working girl" mentality in favor of a more GFE.That being said, the dud was Yua. A true starfish from the moment I opened the door. I was in the mood for someone non-petite (not a fatty, just tall) and have watched the changes in her pictures over the years. In my view this was more that a YMMV reaction, but she's truly not into it.There 'ya go.
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KDH - Chance
Never tried KDH before, always went for different options. So today I had some time to kill after a meeting, decided to head over to Uguisudani for a little taste of kimchi. I've seen the site for Chance DH (chancedh.com) and though the girls looked pretty hot so I gave it a whirl.Got to the LH and called the phone number on the website. Asked for a tall girl with big tits. Requested Naisu if she was available and I was told she was. 30 minutes later somebody completely different showed up at my door. Not bad... but not exactly what I had expected.Saiya was her name- 21yo 167cm 94f. She had a pretty face, but crooked teeth and her breath smelled like kimchi ( I know it's cliche, but I kid you not). Even after she brushed her teeth, I could still smell it. Her pic is not on the website, she said she's only been in Japan for 3 weeks. Almost no Japanese, but she speaks workable english.Well, long story short BBBJ, DATY, CFS. Her BJ technique was just so-so... jolly roger only got to about half mast with her lackluster performance. While a little disappointed, I soldiered on. For her part, I don't think she expected my dick would get any bigger or harder once inside of her... hehe think again.After I popped, she jumped up and grabbed my cock and asked how come I never got this hard when she was blowing me.Best thing was afterward, she gave the best massage I have had outside of Thailand. Overall score 6Looks - 7BBBJ - 3Daty - 7 (she truly seemd to enjoy it)FS - 7 ( a bit mechanical at first, then she got into it when jr hit his stride)Massage - 9 climbing all over me... even left a few snail trails down my back.WIR - I'll go back, but I probably won't go back for her. Choose a different girl.FYI - I asked her if she had a lot of western customers and she said "every day". When she called the mamasan and told her she was in the room and that I was a foreigner the mama joked that all the foreigners keep asking for her. While I never asked for her, apparently the mama uses her for the switcheroo with foreign customers. Maybe holding some of the other girls back for the locals so they don't get stretched by the foreigners?A shout out to Gifuboy for the excellent report a few weeks ago about this KDH.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Pink Salon
[QUOTE=Tokyo Nampa King]Well guys even though I had noticed that noone had mentioned this little gem of a place in a while, during my lunch break I decided to get on the train and see what there was to see.The instructions from previous posters was spot on, go out the South exit, you will see a small street to your left.As soon as I got near the street I could see a man in black waving at me."What?" I was thinking, then I saw the katakana sign ジャンジャン to his back and I thought to myself "Holy shit, this is the real deal"(side note: I have been trying for ages to get into a pink salon, only to be denied over and over even though my Japanese is fine and I am respectful so I was thrilled)I came in the door, down the stairs and the man at the bottom said "san zen yen" I handed him the 3000 yen (Im thinking holy shit, 3000 yen) and walks me to the back of the room into a little booth. Then brings me a oolong cha.After 5 or 6 minutes of nervous, smoking and sipping my tea a girl appeared. Her name is Haruka, and she was not half bad. Slim, nice hair, cute face and really nice personality. We chatted and I mentioned it was my first time. I dont know if she believed my, but I digress. She instructed me to take off my pants, which I did and she washed Mr. Happy with a cool cloth. After that she provided one of the best BBBJ and CIM I have ever in my life had.. like wow. (as a note I can rarely cum from BJ and usually need to assist manually or FS to finish...this girl was amazing but I guess sucking dick all day gives you plenty of practice).We chatted for a few after she cleaned me up, and I was on my way with her saying arigatou gozaimasu.I will definitely be back, shit that was cheaper than a love hotel.BY THE WAY: If you decide to visit PLEASE be respectful. If you cant speak Japanese just say NOTHING and enjoy. OK? This is the first Pink Salon I have gotten into in 4 years of being here.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Looks like the real deal! Unfortunately, in my personal case, I am very afraid of BBBJ. I must have been unlucky but nearly everytime I did, I had to go to the doctor in the next few days. Perhaps I'm totally sick, but those girls don't help.? (been in supergirls 2 times. And BBBJ elsewhere a few times. But ouch.)I guess if I come with condoms in janjan or supergirls, the girls may refuse to work. Even if Banana or Choco? But sure if they accept, id Go there, then take it off just for the cim finish. That would be really nice.
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[QUOTE=Dong Hi]Was a bit bored last evening so decided to have some company. Pinged AM and was surprised quite a few of the grils were available. I have never tried Kotomi, and frankly she is not really my type, but I was impressed by previous reports so thought I would give it a shot. Yes, as mentioned she is certainly older than the stated 33. However she is in good shape and has a nice body. Face is so-so. ... ... ... Kotomi is nice, pleasant and reasonably attractive the tight snatch will encourage me to meet with her again.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I had Kotomi on the 2-hr course about Christmas time but didn't report on it at the time.I agree with everything you say. I didn't try the FS option so I can't comment about the tightness.
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[QUOTE=Herpes]Looks like the real deal! Unfortunately, in my personal case, I am very afraid of BBBJ. I must have been unlucky but nearly everytime I did, I had to go to the doctor in the next few days. Perhaps I'm totally sick, but those girls don't help.? (been in supergirls 2 times. And BBBJ elsewhere a few times. But ouch.)I guess if I come with condoms in janjan or supergirls, the girls may refuse to work. Even if Banana or Choco? But sure if they accept, id Go there, then take it off just for the cim finish. That would be really nice.[/QUOTE]Man with a user name like Herpes, and someone always talking about going to the doctor I would prefer if you keep using those jimmys. How about you only keep sharing your experiences, cause I sure as fuck dont want you sharing any of the "gift" with me or any of the other good guys here.
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[QUOTE=Amerrican]That being said, the dud was Yua. A true starfish from the moment I opened the door. I was in the mood for someone non-petite (not a fatty, just tall) and have watched the changes in her pictures over the years. In my view this was more that a YMMV reaction, but she's truly not into it.There 'ya go.[/QUOTE]Man, that is a shame. I was with her on 2 separate occasions about 4 months ago and she was just stellar. 3 pops each time, with her Really giving it her all to get the last of the three. I had a great time with her. Oh well, I guess that can be the nature of the business though.
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[QUOTE=Amerrican]Well I've been persuaded that at least naming the negative experience would be fair and helpful. That being said, the dud was Yua. There 'ya go.[/QUOTE]Thank you-that is helpful.Naming girls you have enjoyed is also OK of course. Not every detail needs to be written about, but if you mention someone who hasn't been reported before it helps, and if you re-confirm you liked a girl someone else commended that is also good.Info on whether the picts are accurate is great too. Often they aren't updated enough or they are take to strategically hide mediocre faces, fat, tats or scars.
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Momojiriemaki in Takadanobaba
Recently took a trip to Takadanobaba, because I still miss Paprika.First I tried following the internet directions to Baba-king ([url]www.baba-king.com[/url]), right around the Waseda exit to Takadanobaba station. I followed the arrows exactly, and tried the phone number-- no answer. Does anybody know if this service is even running? Their website seems to be updated regularly, but no one seems to be home.Then, as a fail-safe option, I turned around and walked up to Momojiriemaki, across the street from the Waseda exit to Takadanobaba station. It is exactly where prior reports have placed it, in the alley across from Takadanobaba station, on the right side, with the kanji "bijin" sign and the stairs upward. I would suggest to newcomers to be careful not to go straight up the stairs and forward into the fashion health on the third floor-- it is more expensive than Momojiriemaki. Momojiriemaki is on the third floor, but you have to make a you-turn to get to their door.That said, Momojiriemaki is for real, but it is sadly a few steps down from Paprika. I paid my money, got my card stamped, and asked for "Nana". I was told I would have to wait an hour. Fine, whatever, I had some stuff to keep me busy in the waiting area. When I got called for her, though, she was easily 10-15 years older than her picture. Worse, she was completely not into it, and even WORSE, had a cold. She kept up the phony patter the whole time, asking me in a little-girl voice if she could eat my d---, etc. I was pretty turned off. Worse than that, after we were done (very quickly), she quickly got dressed and stood up, like she couldn't wait for me to leave. Now I know, for a fact, that the girls at this establishment are supposed to give you a perfunctory massage after the FS-- but not this girl. She was so rushed and impatient, I ended up hurrying out too, not wanting to be around this waste of time.So, bottom line, Momojiriemaki gets the job done, at a price that can't be beat, but is definitely a few steps down from Paprika, if that's possible.
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KDH,So which ones can we use if we dont speak much japanese?
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[QUOTE=Amerrican]That being said, the dud was Yua. A true starfish from the moment I opened the door. I was in the mood for someone non-petite (not a fatty, just tall) and have watched the changes in her pictures over the years. In my view this was more that a YMMV reaction, but she's truly not into it.There 'ya go.[/QUOTE]I originally had Yua when she just became available last year (maybe she was on the site years back, don't know - predates me)Back last year she was perky, attentive, and got really wet, really quickly. I wrote a report on her bakc then as well A+Thinking of that experience I had her recently, she definitely changed, I think she has been working a *lot* after the favorable reports... which drove down her attitude towards quality of her work.So, I do agree with you she is not the best buy for the money any more, or at least untill she decides to change her attitude.Her bidy, IMHO was fine, large enough breasts, she is tall, but she by no means is slim. She is definitely on the larger side, but she is not fat. Her face is all right and it's pleasant enough, but it's not the J-girls cute.
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AM did right by me
First time in Japan, in Tokyo with family, I didn't think I'd get the chance to monger but I did my research on this site, part just having fun and part hoping to get lucky. It was good to see the recommendations for AM and CB, and that the sites offering model-quality European girls were probably B&S, and just plain BS.Anyway, I DID get lucky and find myself with an afternoon. I scanned both AM and CB sites and ranked the girls in the order the pictures appealed to me. I called AM and struck gold. They were very helpful with my English-only language and helped me find a love hotel to use. I decided to see Misaki for 2 hours. At just 5000 more than the 30000 1-hour fee, it was a bargain.I took a cab and got lost finding the hotel so I called again and the lady walked me up the street to the right place. It turned out the driver hadn't dropped me where I'd asked. Again, extra points for customer service.I waited a few minutes and this very pretty, young, blond Japanese girl walked up to me. We confirmed who we were and went in. This girl is gorgeous. She looks better in person than in her pictures, much better tone to her body. She sure looks 21 to me. She helped me work through the hotel computerized room selection menu and the computerized doors to the room. We have nothing like that in NYC or the wilds of Connecticut, so I was glad to have a guide.We got into the room (bigger than the hotel room I was staying in) and I suggested a shower. Tokyo's pretty muggy right now and I didn't want to sweat all over her. We didn't shower together, although I didn't ask. Maybe she would have if I'd requested it. She brushed her teeth and then showered after me.Then she put on some sexy lingerie and stockings and came to join me on the bed. After just a few words, we started hugging and kissing. I was pleased to find LFK on the menu. I didn't go for DFK, but maybe it was too. Anyway, she was just like a girlfriend: relaxing into it, seeming to really get aroused by my attentions. She has small tits (just the way I like 'them) and they are very responsive. Her nipples got hard and she started to moan as I brushed and sucked on them. I played with her pussy a little and she really seemed to get into it. She reached down to start stroking me and very soon got me hard as a rock. I just couldn't believe her incredible body.Without giving a blow-by-blow, I can confirm that BBBJCIM, DATY, CFS, and anything else I could want were on the menu. She's a very sensuous girl and fun to be with. She wasn't working the rest of the week, so I couldn't see her again.Thanks, cousins, for the great tips on this site and thanks to AM for a great time.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Anything around Narita airport?
I am going to spend the night at a Narita hotel after a long day of travel and would love to have a nice rub down.Any option by Narita airport?Thanks
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[QUOTE=Acetonerec]I am going to spend the night at a Narita hotel after a long day of travel and would love to have a nice rub down.Any option by Narita airport?Thanks[/QUOTE]Welcome to the list. On the menu bar at the top, you will find a tool labeled "SEARCH" or "SEARCH THIS FORUM." Type in NARITA AIRPORT and read the results.
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[QUOTE=Jack Hadda]KDH,So which ones can we use if we dont speak much japanese?[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "not much Japanese"? If you can make a doctor's appointment, or order pizza, you can order KDH. I'm not aware of any of them with English speaking receptionists.
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Jan Jan Again
Ok guys decided to check out Jan Jan again, this time I was half disappointed/ half amazed.So when I first came in they gave me this tall blond older (maybe 34) Japanese woman and her BJ technique seemed like she was just killing time and Mr. Happy deflated and I didnt cum. Very Very disappointed. Her name is Juri (or Juli, could tell). So I talked to Ma Ma-san, and she gave me a choice of a different girl for only 2000 more.I agreed. So I go back to my seat and over comes Nao-chan. And she was fucking amazing. I mean she was moaning, ticking my balls while her mouth did some crazy shit, rubbing on my leg, I blew up in like 5 minutes flat (this is after Juri had spent 25 minutes and could barely keep me hard). So I have to say gentlemen. If they try and give you Juri (she is tall, long blond hair, looks older) ask for a different girl.If Haruka or Nao-chan (now my #1) is available I promise you wont be disappointed.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]What do you mean by "not much Japanese"? If you can make a doctor's appointment, or order pizza, you can order KDH. I'm not aware of any of them with English speaking receptionists.[/QUOTE]I don't think I could do any of that in Japanese.Do they accept credit cards?
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Whats this special?[url]http://www.baba-king.com/system.html[/url]
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Rio of AM
I met with Rio recently and here is a brief recap: First of all, appearance-wise, as the AM site indicates--she is pretty thick, especially around the hips and thighs. This is not a problem for me, but just to let others know who don't go for this type of thing. When the AM site says her hips are 92cm, they're at least 10cm off in my best guess. Her face is reasonably cute. I've read in other reports that her listed age (30) hasn't changed over the years, but she could still "pass" for 30---again, not a negative at all. Next, her tits are reasonably-sized, but a little smaller than implied by her overall body shape. Very attractive straight black hair down to her waist (as advertised)--which she puts out of the way with a hair band during the session. Nice skin tone (very soft) with no tattoos or major skin issues (although she had a bruise or birthmark on her calf). Lastly, she has a LOT of stretch marks all over her mid-section and her belly fat kind of hangs down like loose skin (like people who have lost a lot of weight). I'm not a guy who is necessarily turned off by stretch marks, and Rio's ultimately didn't bother me---however, if this kinda thing turns you off, she is definitely NOT the girl for you.First of all, when she entered, her personality was a bit cold. Not in a way that suggested that she had a bad attitude per se, but more like she was trying to size me up to see what type of person I was and wanted me to take the initiative on everything so she could see what she was working with. I welcomed her into my LH room in Japanese and she asked me which language I'd prefer to use. I told her that it didn't matter to me, so we decided on Japanese. Unfortunately I can't comment on her English-speaking skills as she only uttered about 3 words of English during the 2hr session, but she did comment that her English was largley "self-taught" and that she still finds it difficult.I invited her to take a shower and we did. A pretty mechanical shower with no encouragement from Rio to make it a sensual one. After the shower we dried off and headed to the bed and she basically just layed there as in "here I am, do what you want", with no real encouragement or enthusiasm. I started to rub and kiss her skin, tits, etc. And her nipples got hard and she started breathing in a way that ever so slightly suggested pleasure. She was cool with LFK as well. Once I started playing with her freshly-shaved bald pussy she started to respond more---not a LOT more, but heavier breathing and quivering a bit when I rubbed her clit. Her pussy became quite juicy quickly, so I concentrated on rubbing it more and she started stroking my cock. I then maneuvered down to DATY, which she seemed to enjoy, but not materially more so than rubbing her clit with my finger. So we switched and she gave me a very good BBBJ, followed by 69.Then I asked her for a condom and she put it on for me. Then I asked her if I could enter her back door (an option I selected at the time of reservation). She lubed up and helped slip my cock in with relative ease. I fucked her ass while she was on her back and she took it like a champ. But again, no real reaction from her. Just heavy breathing and she reached up to hold her legs open more. We flipped over so I could enter her ass from behind. She felt much tighter in this position and I popped fairly soon. She took off the rubber and wiped me off with a hot cloth that she prepared. We then lay on the bed and made small talk. Conversation was fine and friendly, and after 10-15 mins, I started feeling her up in preparation for round 2.For the main event of round 2, I started missionary and pounded her pretty hard. Her snatch is certainly not particularly tight but, as mentioned, very moist. I flipped her and went at it doggie style for a while, but it was hard for me to pop with the lack of friction because of her loose tunnel. I worked up quite a sweat (and I'm a pretty fit guy) and decided to let her ride for a while. She rode until she was exhausted and climbed off and went into a CBJ (I'm not huge into BJ of any type, but CBJ does absolutely nothing for me). After a while, I regrouped and focused on getting over the finish line so I put her on her back, put her legs high in the air and started power-drilling and I eventually popped.One other general observation that I would make is that she kept her eyes closed almost the whole time I was banging her. I'm not sure if that was related to her kind of cold atmosphere or if she's just a person who closes her eyes while getting drilled.Overall, I probably wouldn't choose her again. But I definitely wouldn't regard the experience as a negative overall and, as always, YMMV.Face 6/10Body 5/10 (assuming you like 'em thick, lower if you don't)Skin 9/10Attitude 4/10 (again, not bad, just not enthusiastic)BBBJ 7/10Greek 7/10FS 6/10[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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I second this, it's pretty much the same experience I had with her. Not bad but not great either. Although I would say she Looks better in person vs. The website. From AM the most fun so far has been Harumi.[QUOTE=Suedehead]I met with Rio recently and here is a brief recap: snipped for length[/QUOTE]
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Maki of Grimpeur
A quick report on my recent experience with Maki of Grimpeur. Overall I had a great time. I found their office easily using their website map ([url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?action=map[/url]). Arrived around 6pm and was given a choice of 3 girls. They show you the photos and explain (in Japanese) how things work. I won't repeat the details here. I chose Maki, paid Y18,000 for a 1 hour course and was taken across the road to a love hotel by one of the guys on the desk. He asked for the room for 90 mins and I paid Y2,500. He left and I went up to the room. About 5 minutes later Maki arrived. Really cute, true to her photo. When I saw her she was more tanned than in the photo. I am not sure what details you guys want but she spoke little to no English. This was not a problem for me fortunately. Showered together, then BBBJ, 69, then CFS, then massage. Also kissing was allowed. She has large breasts, a pretty face and a tight body. Also a tight pussy which felt great. Maki is a very friendly girl who gave great service. One hour was probably a bit too much time for me in hindsight so might try 30 mins next time. I will definitely try again either with Maki or another girl and will report back here.Maki is: [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?action=girlprofile&id=995[/url]Hitori
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Pink Salons
[QUOTE=Herpes]Looks like the real deal! Unfortunately, in my personal case, I am very afraid of BBBJ. I must have been unlucky but nearly everytime I did, I had to go to the doctor in the next few days. Perhaps I'm totally sick, but those girls don't help.? (been in supergirls 2 times. And BBBJ elsewhere a few times. But ouch.)I guess if I come with condoms in janjan or supergirls, the girls may refuse to work. Even if Banana or Choco? But sure if they accept, id Go there, then take it off just for the cim finish. That would be really nice.[/QUOTE]Herpes, if you go to the place New just across the lane from Jan Jan they will do you with a condom. See my report in this thread.Also, I tried Supergirls just to confirm for myself that they don't allow gaijin. I had walked past there a few weeks ago and had a confusing encounter where I thought the tout was waving me in. This time I made sure. I recognised the tout from when I used to get in there. I think he might have remembered me. I walked up to him, said hello and asked if I could go in. He said politely that they did not allow gaijin. I excused myself and just left. If anyone has any luck please post!
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Harumi?
[QUOTE=Hanamizu]From AM the most fun so far has been Harumi.[/QUOTE]For real? I did a search of the Japan forum and didn't see any reviews of her, aside from someone calling her 'cuddly' I think. If you've tried her, it would be nice to see your opinion in detail.ES
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Hoshi - korean este
I'm staying in the Uguisudani area tonight. Now I knew uguisudani was home to some really nice korean deriheru, but I didn't feel quite up to it tonight, so I opted instead for the massage scene. I remembered there were some reports for the nippori area - so did a quick search and found about Hoshi, a korean massage place near Nippori station. I got in and chose the 80 min - 13 000 yen akasuri course. The mama was a bit hesitant at the beginning to see a 1m90, late twenties gaijin enter the place, but once I'd reassured her that yes, I spoke nihongo (somewhat better than she did, if I may say so) and that I understood the system, I was waved in without a problem. I wasn't asked to choose a girl, but after a few minutes I was introduced to Aya, their newest member.While she's not quite model-level like some of the upscale deliheru k-girls, Aya's a cute, petite foreign student, with the kind of mischievous korean smile I can't get enough of, and tight, muscled legs. She'd only been in Japan for 3 months so her conversation is mostly limited to memorized sentence. But with the odd bits of korean I'd remembered from my stay there we got along just fine. Funny thing is she used her massage cubicle to study too between (and with) customers so she had japanese word list all over the walls. Akasuri massage was just short of professional (but what do you expect from a 20yrs old beauty...) but I got out of there with tingly smooth baby skin. Once we got back to her little "room" she joined me wearing only a towel, and within moments was all over me... in a very good sort of way. Got back to my hotel thoroughly satisfied.On the way back I was also approached by 2 chinese gals offering me a 30-min massage course. One of them was young and quite cute so I might try it on my next trip.Directions are maybe 80 pages back on this thread, so I'll repost them for newcomers:Website: [url]http://www.star-es.com/[/url]The place is just next to Nippori station on the Yamanote line. Take the south exit (it's on a walkway above the tracks) then turn right and go down the stairs. At the bottom, turn right again. You'll see an AM/PM after a few meters. Take a left opposite the AM/PM and you'll come upon the place. It's marked by the kanji "hoshi", on the 3rd floor above a small yakiniku shop. Will definitely pay another visit on my next stay in Japan - in the meanwhile I'm looking forward to my trip to Korea next month.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Natloz]I remembered there were some reports for the nippori area - so did a quick search and found about Hoshi, a korean massage place near Nippori station. Once we got back to her little "room" she joined me wearing only a towel, and within moments was all over me... in a very good sort of way. Got back to my hotel thoroughly satisfied.[/QUOTE]Nice report, but you left our what kind of "satisfaction" you got. Sounds like FS but it would be nice to confirm.Many K-massage places don't provide FS, at least without asking for more money, and the Chinese ones that do range in price from 10,000 to 30,000 (if they are upselling and trying to rip you off late at night).
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]For real? I did a search of the Japan forum and didn't see any reviews of her, aside from someone calling her 'cuddly' I think. If you've tried her, it would be nice to see your opinion in detail.ES[/QUOTE]Met her soon after she started working for AM. Very nice, and was obviously not playacting. That was a while though, so can't vouch for her now ..By NO means slim, but that shouldn't come as surprise to anyone who reads her profile.
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Chinese street massage girls
Natloz,I seriously recommend you don't go with the Chinese girls on the street. Maybe others can confirm what the Nippori area is like but they are notorious for ripping you off. First it's 10,000yen for an hour. Then you get to the shop it's another 1,0000y for shop entrance. Then you're probably swapped and get a lesser beauty for the massage, who'll massage you like she's typing on an old typewriter while she's trying to get more money out of you. 5,000y to touch her, 10,000y for her to get her gear off, 10,000 for two girls - and she'll be screaming out in Chinese to other people in the shop. They'll empty your wallet and you still won't get anything. This is not just my experience speaking, I know quite a few people with the same stories.Stick with places that have web sites, prices lists and proper shops - or go on recommendations.
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[QUOTE=Hitori De]A quick report on my recent experience with Maki of Grimpeur. Overall I had a great time. I found their office easily using their website map ([url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?action=map[/url]). Arrived around 6pm and was given a choice of 3 girls. They show you the photos and explain (in Japanese) how things work. I won't repeat the details here. I chose Maki, paid Y18,000 for a 1 hour course and was taken across the road to a love hotel by one of the guys on the desk. He asked for the room for 90 mins and I paid Y2,500. He left and I went up to the room. About 5 minutes later Maki arrived. Really cute, true to her photo. When I saw her she was more tanned than in the photo. I am not sure what details you guys want but she spoke little to no English. This was not a problem for me fortunately. Showered together, then BBBJ, 69, then CFS, then massage. Also kissing was allowed. She has large breasts, a pretty face and a tight body. Also a tight pussy which felt great. Maki is a very friendly girl who gave great service. One hour was probably a bit too much time for me in hindsight so might try 30 mins next time. I will definitely try again either with Maki or another girl and will report back here.Maki is: [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?action=girlprofile&id=995[/url]Hitori[/QUOTE]From the option menu looks like Maki is down for just about whatever. If they all them match the photos this sounds like a good place. Too bad I don't live anywhere near there!
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[QUOTE=Japanguy]Natloz,I seriously recommend you don't go with the Chinese girls on the street. Maybe others can confirm what the Nippori area is like but they are notorious for ripping you off. First it's 10,000yen for an hour. Then you get to the shop it's another 1,0000y for shop entrance. Then you're probably swapped and get a lesser beauty for the massage, who'll massage you like she's typing on an old typewriter while she's trying to get more money out of you. 5,000y to touch her, 10,000y for her to get her gear off, 10,000 for two girls - and she'll be screaming out in Chinese to other people in the shop. They'll empty your wallet and you still won't get anything. This is not just my experience speaking, I know quite a few people with the same stories.Stick with places that have web sites, prices lists and proper shops - or go on recommendations.[/QUOTE]He is right. Recommended shops can get you laid for 10,000. Street girls will frustrate you for 30,000.
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Not!
[QUOTE=Jack Hadda]Do they accept credit cards?[/QUOTE]Stick to cash. As you won't have any possible surprises on your bill. It would be kind of hard to explain.
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Harumi
I seen they took her off the site recently. It's been a while since I've seen her. She said I was her first, not sure if she meant first overall or first through AM. I'm assuming first through AM. Anyway she's quite nice, pleasant and talkative, her english is very good. Kind of a beach or surfer girl personality. She had a nice tan at that time, I think she said she had gotten back from Australia recently.When I ordered her up AM emailed me twice with admonitions about her being BIIIIG. She's not skinny but not a tub either. It was in the right places no cellulite and she has good skin, so not unattractive. Probably what some would call pleasantly plump. Also keep in mind the japanese impression of fat is pretty skewed. One gram over an arbitrary line makes you a beached whale here.The shower was good she had a nice touch and jimmy was at attention right away. She was fun in bed and like the guy wrote before me not acting. Fun enough that I extended. She has a nice munchable pussy DATY was very good. Afterward we took a long bath and nodded off for a bit together.Chemistry is everything, YMMV.On a different note. If you're looking to take a walk on the wild side. There's has been a TS Fiona advertising on Craigslist and some other shit websites. Long story short this person is a liar and does not show up for his/her? Appointments. I might go into detail in another report but for now be aware there's a 50/50 chance he/she may not show up.
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Agreed
Thirded, street walkers are a freakin scam. Not worth the hassle.[QUOTE=Lion]He is right. Recommended shops can get you laid for 10,000. Street girls will frustrate you for 30,000.[/QUOTE]
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Tokyo so far
Hi guys, I am in Tokyo for 2 weeks. I am used to Shanghai scene and wanted to see what is available in Tokyo.I have: - Tried AM: Erika: Good experience. A bit cold in the beginning, but very happy ending. Not a stunner, but good body and knows her way.- Tried Jan Jan on Sunday afternoon. Mamasan gave me the blond tall one, with the best of effort no pop and asked for new one. I think she said "Mai" as her name. Not good looking but better than the very ugly blond one. Nice experience but on the bottom average of my list of experiences so far.- Tried [url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/index2.html[/url] neer Suidobashi station: don't go there, or I was unlucky with the very ugly girl.Anyway, so far not so good experience. I will try the 6F Aroma massage next to Suidobashi station tomorrow and hope for the best.If anyone can recommend me something that is good and delivers me a Japanese beauty that would be great (money no issue), beacuse so far I am not so amazed by my experiences in Tokyo lurking scene.Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Bier 8]Hi guys, I am in Tokyo for 2 weeks. I am used to Shanghai scene and wanted to see what is available in Tokyo.I have: - Tried AM: Erika: Good experience. A bit cold in the beginning, but very happy ending. Not a stunner, but good body and knows her way.- Tried Jan Jan on Sunday afternoon. Mamasan gave me the blond tall one, with the best of effort no pop and asked for new one. I think she said "Mai" as her name. Not good looking but better than the very ugly blond one. Nice experience but on the bottom average of my list of experiences so far.- Tried [url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/index2.html[/url] neer Suidobashi station: don't go there, or I was unlucky with the very ugly girl.Anyway, so far not so good experience. I will try the 6F Aroma massage next to Suidobashi station tomorrow and hope for the best.If anyone can recommend me something that is good and delivers me a Japanese beauty that would be great (money no issue), beacuse so far I am not so amazed by my experiences in Tokyo lurking scene.Thanks![/QUOTE]Grimpeur in Shibuya -- there are several favourable reports in the files.Browse the website and check the girl's schedule. Go to the shop. Pick a high price course. Go to one of the more expensive love hotels nearby. When the lady arrives, be a gentleman, and fun will ensue.
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At Jan Jan you really should have read my report. The blond girl you got was Juri (or Juli) and she is horrible, I had similiar situation, that girl does not know how to finish and like you said leaves much to be desired. For a better experience call ahead (number is 03-3947-7056) and request either Haruka or Nao (I recomend Nao).If you can handle directions in Japanese Busty Paradise is nice ([url]www.busty-p.com[/url]) but hands down for a high quality experience Grimpeur has some nice girls. [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?...lprofile&id=995[/url] Hope this helps you enjoy your trip.TNP[QUOTE=Bier 8]Hi guys, I am in Tokyo for 2 weeks. I am used to Shanghai scene and wanted to see what is available in Tokyo.I have: - Tried AM: Erika: Good experience. A bit cold in the beginning, but very happy ending. Not a stunner, but good body and knows her way.- Tried Jan Jan on Sunday afternoon. Mamasan gave me the blond tall one, with the best of effort no pop and asked for new one. I think she said "Mai" as her name. Not good looking but better than the very ugly blond one. Nice experience but on the bottom average of my list of experiences so far.- Tried [url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/index2.html[/url] neer Suidobashi station: don't go there, or I was unlucky with the very ugly girl.Anyway, so far not so good experience. I will try the 6F Aroma massage next to Suidobashi station tomorrow and hope for the best.If anyone can recommend me something that is good and delivers me a Japanese beauty that would be great (money no issue), beacuse so far I am not so amazed by my experiences in Tokyo lurking scene.Thanks![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Carberry]Grimpeur in Shibuya -- there are several favourable reports in the files.Browse the website and check the girl's schedule. Go to the shop. Pick a high price course. Go to one of the more expensive love hotels nearby. When the lady arrives, be a gentleman, and fun will ensue.[/QUOTE]FS on the cards, or is it a case of 'depends'?
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[QUOTE=Tokyo Nampa King]If you can handle directions in Japanese Busty Paradise is nice ([url]www.busty-p.com[/url]) but hands down for a high quality experience Grimpeur has some nice girls. [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?...lprofile&id=995[/url] Hope this helps you enjoy your trip.TNP[/QUOTE]Can you give directions how to find Grimpeur in English. I don't understand the map. Do they accept gaijin that can't speak any Japanese?
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[QUOTE=Hanamizu]On a different note. If you're looking to take a walk on the wild side. There's has been a TS Fiona advertising on Craigslist and some other shit websites. Long story short this person is a liar and does not show up for his/her? Appointments. I might go into detail in another report but for now be aware there's a 50/50 chance he/she may not show up.[/QUOTE]That person on CL is a TS, no questions about it. So if you are into girls it would not be exactly your cup of tea so to speak. Don't know whether it shows up for the appts or not, I did not pursue that far.
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I have a question for some of the long time mongers:So I just had my first Delivery Health experience a few days ago. The girl I chose was stunning; much better looking than the picture that was posted on the website. Overall, it was a very good experience. I booked another reservation with her for tonight. Anyways, would asking for her cell phone number after our session be out of the question? She's actually really new to DH--in fact, I was only her second customer. She seemed genuinely interested in me, and we really hit things off. Lots of moaning, multiple orgasms, etc. If she was faking everything, then damn, she should win an oscar for her acting.I'm sure she'd say no to video recording as well. Sorry for the newb questions, the answers to both of my questions will most likely be "hell no".
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[QUOTE=Tokyo Nampa King]but hands down for a high quality experience Grimpeur has some nice girls. [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?...lprofile&id=995[/url][/QUOTE]Sorry for the double post, but is Grimpeur generally foreigner friendly? I'm Korean American, so I don't stick out like a sore thumb. My Japanese is decent; a little rough around the edges, but definitely enough to get by.
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[QUOTE=Akbkenji]Sorry for the double post, but is Grimpeur generally foreigner friendly? I'm Korean American, so I don't stick out like a sore thumb. My Japanese is decent; a little rough around the edges, but definitely enough to get by.[/QUOTE]Yes definitely foreigner friendly, it says so on their home page and I can vouch from personal experience. I am white.You go to the shop, choose a girl and a hotel. You go to the hotel and book a room. Make sure to pay for a longer stay than the length of your course. When you are in the room you phone the shop and tell them your room number. The girl arrives 5-10 minutes later.
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[QUOTE=Akbkenji]I have a question for some of the long time mongers:So I just had my first Delivery Health experience a few days ago. The girl I chose was stunning; much better looking than the picture that was posted on the website. Overall, it was a very good experience. I booked another reservation with her for tonight. Anyways, would asking for her cell phone number after our session be out of the question? She's actually really new to DH--in fact, I was only her second customer. She seemed genuinely interested in me, and we really hit things off. Lots of moaning, multiple orgasms, etc. If she was faking everything, then damn, she should win an oscar for her acting.I'm sure she'd say no to video recording as well. Sorry for the newb questions, the answers to both of my questions will most likely be "hell no".[/QUOTE]There's no problem with that actually. I personally have collected the contact info of many a deli girl. Not all of them will say yes, but if they like you, you'll get it. I usually use the contact info as a way of contacting them should they quit (and a lot of them do eventually). I've also tried to date a few of them. A few of these girls are a bit odd, but a lot of them are fun and refreshing to be around. Plus they tend to be good in bed. That aside, don't get your hopes up. A lot of them aren't looking to date and just want you back as a customer so they tend to treat you really well. In either case, don't hesitate about trying, many of their other customers regularly ask for their contact info too. Some just want it in case they disappear, some are trying to date them, and some will even propose to them. Ask them, you'll hear a lot of interesting stories from these girls.
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Yes I know that. Hence taking a walk on the wild side. Lou Reed, do dodo dooo, ring any bells? My point is he/she stood me up twice then got insulting on the phone. So as I said it's like 50/50 he/she keeps appointments or not. Unprofessional at best, who knows at worst.[QUOTE=Ice Tea13]That person on CL is a TS, no questions about it. So if you are into girls it would not be exactly your cup of tea so to speak. Don't know whether it shows up for the appts or not, I did not pursue that far.[/QUOTE]
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You betcha
[QUOTE=Akbkenji]Sorry for the double post, but is Grimpeur generally foreigner friendly? I'm Korean American, so I don't stick out like a sore thumb. My Japanese is decent; a little rough around the edges, but definitely enough to get by.[/QUOTE]Hell yea, it's the prime deal for non-Japanese. Grimpeur gets quite a few in their doors. The one time I went, the girl said nearly half of her customers were gaikokujin. You only need a little basic Nihongo to get along with the staff and the girls. They make it easy to enjoy some nice young J-girls!Enjoy it and be cool!!Tankuki
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Dh
[QUOTE=Akbkenji] Anyways, would asking for her cell phone number after our session be out of the question? [/QUOTE] I did Delivery Health a few times. Had fine results, but never a stunner like you had. Decent looking, but nothing spectacular. Service was always fine. I asked a couple of girls their cell phone, mostly from Club Boo, and 1 or 2 from Asian Mystique. Usually reluctance, often got email addresses, but it never seemed inappropriate to ask. Even dated one girl from AM for a while. So sure, ask for their cell phone or email address. If they don't want to give it, no problem. I always offered my cell phone number, but only got called a couple of times. Whatever, at least I tried, and rarely even succeeded.
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[QUOTE=Bier 8]Hi guys, Anyway, so far not so good experience. I will try the 6F Aroma massage next to Suidobashi station tomorrow and hope for the best.Thanks![/QUOTE]Please report. I've been to the 5th, 6th and 8th floors under prior names. But 5th floor is gone and the last time I tried the 8th floor they would not give me a girl and said that they were relaxation rental room only. I always stay in the Suidobashi area and it would be nice to have the option of a place within walking distance. The girls used to live in the 5th floor shop and I would wake someone up for early morning service.
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6F opposite mcdo near Suidobashi station
[QUOTE=Cuty Suzuki]Please report. I've been to the 5th, 6th and 8th floors under prior names. But 5th floor is gone and the last time I tried the 8th floor they would not give me a girl and said that they were relaxation rental room only. I always stay in the Suidobashi area and it would be nice to have the option of a place within walking distance. The girls used to live in the 5th floor shop and I would wake someone up for early morning service.[/QUOTE]Went there 2 days ago. Quite crowded, so had to wait 40 min, but thought it was worth the wait. Not really. I took a 15000 option, looked fine on the menu although I do not speak any word Japanese.It was a standard massage with some erotic elements. After 90 min the alarm clock went off at the moment she was touching my private parts. Very slick. She asked 3000 to continue, but this did it for me and off I go. Not again.My neighbour (in a separate room) did have a more nice looking girl though so if you are lucky with the girl and you keep watching the time yourslef you might come off with a good deal.
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Manami?
Have you considered Manami . . . [url]www.tokyomeltykiss.com[/url] ?Or if money's no object, schedule Manami to take you to a couple kissa (listed as Happening Bar/Couple Kissa under 'Service Option Fee Schedule' on the System page of her website). I've never been, but Manami explained to me that these are sort of like swingers clubs or swap clubs in Tokyo. You'd probably get to experience Manami and 2 or 3 other girls (who each came with a guy). If you go, you MUST report back details as I haven't seen Couple Kissa reports in this forum yet.[QUOTE=Bier 8]Hi guys, I am in Tokyo for 2 weeks. I am used to Shanghai scene and wanted to see what is available in Tokyo.I have: - Tried AM: Erika: Good experience. A bit cold in the beginning, but very happy ending. Not a stunner, but good body and knows her way.- Tried Jan Jan on Sunday afternoon. Mamasan gave me the blond tall one, with the best of effort no pop and asked for new one. I think she said "Mai" as her name. Not good looking but better than the very ugly blond one. Nice experience but on the bottom average of my list of experiences so far.- Tried [url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/index2.html[/url] neer Suidobashi station: don't go there, or I was unlucky with the very ugly girl.Anyway, so far not so good experience. I will try the 6F Aroma massage next to Suidobashi station tomorrow and hope for the best.If anyone can recommend me something that is good and delivers me a Japanese beauty that would be great (money no issue), beacuse so far I am not so amazed by my experiences in Tokyo lurking scene.Thanks![/QUOTE]
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Hi, Any chance that a non japanese asian speaking guy will get their service at all? I will be in shinjuku in a weeks time. I can't wait to explore the pink saloon and all. Any good recommendations? Thanks[QUOTE=Tankuki]Hell yea, it's the prime deal for non-Japanese. Grimpeur gets quite a few in their doors. The one time I went, the girl said nearly half of her customers were gaikokujin. You only need a little basic Nihongo to get along with the staff and the girls. They make it easy to enjoy some nice young J-girls!Enjoy it and be cool!!Tankuki[/QUOTE]
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HinoMaru
Hi guys, Long time lurker, first time poster. Based upon info here, I decided to take a trip to HinoMaru, shinjuku. Finding it was simple given the directions in previous posts. The tout was over joyed to see me so I can attest to the fact that they are gaijin friendly! I chose Moee from the board. I had my beer goggles on that night, but I found her to be very beautiful! However, in the harsh light of sobriety, she may have had some flaws. Any she had though, she made up for in attitude. She gave me the most wonderful BBBJ. However, I have problems coming and am especially challenged with BJ. After what must have been close to my alloted 40 minutes, I told her to throw in the towel. That I had had a great time and that I was very happy. But she wouldn't take no for an answer. Its as if I didn't cum, she would not be satisfied! So she proceeded to ignore me and lubed me up for some handjob action. Well with one hand she stroked me, and with the other she started exploring my netherlands. Very carefully at first to judge my reaction. Well, I was all for it and gave her the green light. She proceeded to stroke me like there was no tomorrow while giving me my first prostate massage. The combo quickly brought me to the brink and I fired with such velocity the it literally shot across the room! This delighted her to no end to see me cum so vigourously. She is most definitely a girl who takes great joy in pleasing men. I will definitely be back!
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[QUOTE=Cooler8]Hi, Any chance that a non japanese asian speaking guy will get their service at all? I will be in shinjuku in a weeks time. I can't wait to explore the pink saloon and all. Any good recommendations? Thanks[/QUOTE]You will probably have a difficult time with most Pink Salon if you don't speak any Japanese. The Japanese are very poorly equipped to handle those who don't speak the language. The only sure-fire options that I know of for non-Japanese speakers are Asian Mystique and Tokyo Melty Kiss. Club Boo might also be possible, but the consensus seems to be that CB is priced higher than AM or TMK, with equivalent or lesser quality service on average. Please note that TMK is a "one woman show." That one woman is reported to be a sexual dynamo, but she is still just one person. All three places mentioned above are essentially escort services. There may also be some soapland that can handle non-Japanese speakers.Regarding which are good, the forum here is full of advice. Try using the search tool. Hinomaru is mentioned in the message immediately prior to mine, and has been mentioned several times in the past as a good place. Check the Links to Reports of Distinction. The report on Honobono probably describes a lot of places. They might speak some English, but not enough to complete a transaction. UCLA in Ikebukuro is listed as being friendly to non-J speakers, as is Jan Jan in Sugamo. I strongly suggest reading this report on behavioral guidelines: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=811352#post811352[/url]Don't mess everything up for others. It's already happened before with Supergirls. AND RTFF! That's what it is here for.
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[QUOTE=Bier 8]Hi guys, I am in Tokyo for 2 weeks. I am used to Shanghai scene and wanted to see what is available in Tokyo.I have: - Tried AM: Erika: Good experience. A bit cold in the beginning, but very happy ending. Not a stunner, but good body and knows her way.- Tried Jan Jan on Sunday afternoon. Mamasan gave me the blond tall one, with the best of effort no pop and asked for new one. I think she said "Mai" as her name. Not good looking but better than the very ugly blond one. Nice experience but on the bottom average of my list of experiences so far.- Tried [url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/index2.html[/url] neer Suidobashi station: don't go there, or I was unlucky with the very ugly girl.Anyway, so far not so good experience. I will try the 6F Aroma massage next to Suidobashi station tomorrow and hope for the best.If anyone can recommend me something that is good and delivers me a Japanese beauty that would be great (money no issue), beacuse so far I am not so amazed by my experiences in Tokyo lurking scene.Thanks![/QUOTE]I would suggest going to Shinjuku station, exit on the east side, and get a cab. Ask him to take you to Club KiLaLa (Kurubbu Keyrara). It is in Kabukicho, on the fifth floor of the ?Aora Building. Look up from the street to see the English language sign. Expect to pay $350-450 for a beautiful Japanese girl of your choice. If you go after 9PM there should be 25-30 beautiful choices for you. Take her out to the Pasha Hotel ($75-90 for 2 hours). A very classy place within walking distance. The girl you select will probably have a card that will get her points towards a handbag or other gift item.
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Shimbashi
Afternoon all, Just wondering, anyone have any suggestions for Shimbashi these days? Unfortunately, I have to confirm what others have said on Super Girls. No go for gaijin, the time being at least. I work in the area so will definitely update if that changes.Jan Jan has been good the couple of times I've been. With Rui. But it's a bit out of the way for me.Thanks to all for tips, please keep them coming.
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Shimbashi?
[QUOTE=Milan Bur]Afternoon all, Just wondering, anyone have any suggestions for Shimbashi these days? Unfortunately, I have to confirm what others have said on Super Girls. No go for gaijin, the time being at least. I work in the area so will definitely update if that changes.Jan Jan has been good the couple of times I've been. With Rui. But it's a bit out of the way for me.Thanks to all for tips, please keep them coming.[/QUOTE]I was out there one night last week. Lots of good places to eat/drink on the cheap. There's a strip club under the tracks a couple blocks south of the JR station. No idea if there's any extras available as I did not go in. If you are there after 8 or so, the Chinese massage women will be out on the small streets trying to pull you in. Probably not a great option.There are a few sex clubs in the area, but all are non-GF as far as I could tell. Looks to me like Shimbashi is not a prime target for ISG mongers. If it's problematic to hit other areas in town, try something over there and let us know! Basically, I'd think DH is a better option...Tankuki
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Kanae at AM
OK, flame away if there have been posts and I can't find them. I was cruising through the AM website and Kanae caught my attention. Have there been posts about her? I searched, but didn't find them. I was more of a CB regular until a couple of years ago, as CB has gotten rather "stale", with the same girls there for the past several years. So Kanae? Any info? If there have been reports (and I'm not finding them), I'll accept the stabs...
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Shimbashi
[QUOTE=Tankuki]I was out there one night last week. Lots of good places to eat/drink on the cheap. There's a strip club under the tracks a couple blocks south of the JR station. No idea if there's any extras available as I did not go in. If you are there after 8 or so, the Chinese massage women will be out on the small streets trying to pull you in. Probably not a great option.There are a few sex clubs in the area, but all are non-GF as far as I could tell. Looks to me like Shimbashi is not a prime target for ISG mongers. If it's problematic to hit other areas in town, try something over there and let us know! Basically, I'd think DH is a better option...Tankuki[/QUOTE]Thanks, Tankuki.Actually, I did try a place in the New Shimbashi Biru, the big old building right by the train station (you can't miss it, head for where the locomotive is and it's the mall-type structure on the left). On the second floor you'll find a number of massage places which I think are mostly legitimate, but there is also a place called D-Cup which is a fashion health shop.My Japanese is very basic but they didn't kick me out: they explained they have one girl who deals in gaijins and as luck would have it she was in the evening I called. Misaki is her name, I'd say early to mid-20s, small, nice body, cute enough face - crooked teeth but a pretty engaging smile. Very minimal English but no really a problem. I've not been to that many FH places but I guess the drill was pretty much the same as usual. Discussion with front of house and with Misaki to remind about the rules (no FS, no violence etc.), then shower (separate), then down to business. She has a very nice, soft touch, quite willing BBBJ, sumata, HJ to completion, with lots of smiling and laughing throughout.Since I was mainly there out of curiosity I only took 30 minute course, which was 10,000 plus 1,000 for some supplement (I forget what it was, to be honest). Being a shop in an ageing building in Shimbashi, the facilities are not fancy. But they were straightforward, and Misaki left a very pleasant impression. I'll go back sometime for a more relaxed session, I reckon. She only works Monday/Tuesday from 5.30pm on: I reckon she might be an impoverished OL trying to make a bit more, but she knows what's she's doing and is bubbly and obviously likes gaijins even though she doesn't have the language. Not the most wildly erotic experience ever, but pretty handy for blowing off some steam after work. Obviously, if anyone's interested, at the risk of boring you, if you can just be as polite as possible, relax and enjoy the show, that'd be much appreciated.MB[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Tokyo Nampa King]At Jan Jan you really should have read my report. The blond girl you got was Juri (or Juli) and she is horrible, I had similiar situation, that girl does not know how to finish and like you said leaves much to be desired. For a better experience call ahead (number is 03-3947-7056) and request either Haruka or Nao (I recomend Nao).If you can handle directions in Japanese Busty Paradise is nice ([url]www.busty-p.com[/url]) but hands down for a high quality experience Grimpeur has some nice girls. [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?...lprofile&id=995[/url] Hope this helps you enjoy your trip.TNP[/QUOTE]How do you get that discount on busty? Is it automatic? Would anyone help me with chancedh? Call them for me and act like me?
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Tried Kanae a few months back. Pleasant enough with a very good figure. Speaks very good English. She insist only on missionary though, so personally I gave her a big discount. I had wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt as she may have been tired. But I am inclined to feel she's just lazy.[QUOTE=Jelly37]OK, flame away if there have been posts and I can't find them. I was cruising through the AM website and Kanae caught my attention. Have there been posts about her? I searched, but didn't find them. I was more of a CB regular until a couple of years ago, as CB has gotten rather "stale", with the same girls there for the past several years. So Kanae? Any info? If there have been reports (and I'm not finding them), I'll accept the stabs...[/QUOTE]
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If someone is interested in TOFTT, I'm curious to see if this place welcomes foreigners or not:[url]http://www.erica-aroma.jp/main.html[/url]If you prefer, you can PM me with the results. I unfortunately don't live in Japan anymore, and I only travel there about once a year, or I'd do it myself.
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Kanae
[QUOTE=Classico]Tried Kanae a few months back. She insist only on missionary though, so personally I gave her a big discount. But I am inclined to feel she's just lazy.[/QUOTE] Thank you Classico. This forum is quite helpful when people share information like that. I looked for past reports, but didn't find them. Appreciate it. She looks hot. But if she relies on her looks, instead of her performance, then that's a bit of a downer.
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Supergirls. Still off the menu
Yes, Supergirls is still NG and in the worst way. Was in Shimbashi the other night and tried to talk to the tout. He ignored me completly, I was vapor man. Anybody know the story? I heard, (take this with a grain of salt) from a Filipino friend of mine that manages a Pinay hostess bar (litterally with in site of SG) That some big shot Japanese customer came in and was offended that his regular girl was blowing some white dude, So he pitched a ***** threatned some Government intervention, as in licencse helath inspections etc, apparently the guy knows somebody and that was that. According to my friend, there was never (that he knew of) any issue with an obnoxious Gaijin. Just a case of the wrong guy not wanting to see his GF with a mouthful of white knob. Can anybody corrabarate?
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[QUOTE=Dong Hi]Yes, Supergirls is still NG and in the worst way. Was in Shimbashi the other night and tried to talk to the tout. He ignored me completly, I was vapor man. Anybody know the story? I heard, (take this with a grain of salt) from a Filipino friend of mine that manages a Pinay hostess bar (litterally with in site of SG) That some big shot Japanese customer came in and was offended that his regular girl was blowing some white dude, So he pitched a ***** threatned some Government intervention, as in licencse helath inspections etc, apparently the guy knows somebody and that was that. According to my friend, there was never (that he knew of) any issue with an obnoxious Gaijin. Just a case of the wrong guy not wanting to see his GF with a mouthful of white knob. Can anybody corrabarate?[/QUOTE]The outraged Japanese guy threatening Government intervention sounds far fetched. SG is a legal business, is licensed and probably pays its taxes. Japan is not a banana republic.It's a lot more likely that one (or more) of the girls was put off for one reason or other by a gaijin customer and threatened to quit. Since supply is always less than demand for attractive girls in this line of work, the manager probably ran the numbers and - regrettably - put up the red light for gaijin.
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Moving forward
[QUOTE=Tokyo Plaxico]..... Japan is not a banana republic.[/QUOTE]BWAHAHAHAHA! Hey, dude, I've got a bridge for sale... :eek:[QUOTE=Tokyo Plaxico]It's a lot more likely that one (or more) of the girls was put off for one reason or other by a gaijin customer and threatened to quit. Since supply is always less than demand for attractive girls in this line of work, the manager probably ran the numbers and - regrettably - put up the red light for gaijin.[/QUOTE]The bottom line is, the place is closed to us forever. Fuck it, there's other stuff around. We can speculate all day and at the end of that day, we've wasted opportunities. Who cares? One door closes and one opens. It happens all the time here. SG was the single compelling reason to go to Shimbashi, and that's a small part of the Tokyo area. Go out and TOFTT and tell us about it. Personally, it's tough to beat Grimpeur these days, IMO, but that's easy cuz my house is a 10 minute walk from there. Woo Hoo! Meantime, I'm off to China for a bit and hope to sample a few things while over there. Enjoy! You could be in Iowa, you know...Tankuki
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Hi, Tks for ya advice. I have been advised my my buddy who just came back to be careful esp. In area like shinjuku. I will try to explore around 1st before I make my move. I have been lucky in Osaka and the pick up rate was good. Got some excellent recommendation here. I was quie surprised that Tokyo don't have much joint that are gajin or non japanese speaking friendly. Nevertheless, thanks for the info. Will check Hinomaru out.[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]You will probably have a difficult time with most Pink Salon if you don't speak any Japanese. The Japanese are very poorly equipped to handle those who don't speak the language. The only sure-fire options that I know of for non-Japanese speakers are Asian Mystique and Tokyo Melty Kiss. Club Boo might also be possible, but the consensus seems to be that CB is priced higher than AM or TMK, with equivalent or lesser quality service on average. Please note that TMK is a "one woman show." That one woman is reported to be a sexual dynamo, but she is still just one person. All three places mentioned above are essentially escort services. There may also be some soapland that can handle non-Japanese speakers.Regarding which are good, the forum here is full of advice. Try using the search tool. Hinomaru is mentioned in the message immediately prior to mine, and has been mentioned several times in the past as a good place. Check the Links to Reports of Distinction. The report on Honobono probably describes a lot of places. They might speak some English, but not enough to complete a transaction. UCLA in Ikebukuro is listed as being friendly to non-J speakers, as is Jan Jan in Sugamo.I strongly suggest reading this report on behavioral guidelines: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=811352#post811352[/url]Don't mess everything up for others. It's already happened before with Supergirls. AND RTFF! That's what it is here for.[/QUOTE]
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Mmmm
[QUOTE=Tokyo Plaxico]...sounds far fetched.[/QUOTE]I have no problem believing the tale Dong Hi recounts. At least he's talked to someone who might have some actual information on the matter... rather than it being some random guy's theory of what might have happened.ES
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Grimpeur - a mixed report
First the good news - easy to find, near the station, very accommodating, even though my Nihongo skills are less than zero. A busy Saturday evening, so only 2 girls available - I chose Risa.Nice girl, small, slender and tanned. After a long and pleasant prelim to the main event, she was genuinely surprised when I reached for a condom. "No sex" were the words I heard .... After a double-take and a request for confirmation, I accepted this sorry news and went back to business.Now, we got on very well, before and after this, so I (like to think!) it wasn't anything I did to make her close the shutters. I wonder though, is it only me that has had to hear these sad words from a Grimpeur gal?ps: the Moti Hotel, opposite Grimpeur, is indeed as smelly and dirty as reported here before > but it's only a few steps across the road, so who can complain!?
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Daytime fun in Tokyo
I will be available for about a month in Tokyo during daytime. I would like to fullfill a fantasy which is to satisfy frustrated shufu (married women) while hubby is at work. I am in my 30s, speak reasonable everyday Japanese.Suggestions are welcome (websites/chatrooms to initiate contact, what do do and to avoid, report of personal experiences,...).Of course I will give full report myself afterwards ;-)
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Craigslist girl
Has anyone met a girl named Chiaki from craigslist?Shes asking 20000 for 2 hours and wondered what she was like.She seems reluctant to send a photo.
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Did request her service from AM when I was in Tokyo a few months ago. However, the reply was disappointing as she only services the REGULARs. If that's the case, should say so on the web rather than posting "Need Advance Notice".SM[QUOTE=Jelly37]OK, flame away if there have been posts and I can't find them. I was cruising through the AM website and Kanae caught my attention. Have there been posts about her? I searched, but didn't find them. I was more of a CB regular until a couple of years ago, as CB has gotten rather "stale", with the same girls there for the past several years. So Kanae? Any info? If there have been reports (and I'm not finding them), I'll accept the stabs...[/QUOTE]
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SheMale DH !
I dont think I will ever try, but went by chance on this site.Based around JR Tamachi. they call SheMales "New Hafu"[url]http://www.lamancha.jp/[/url]Maybe some forum members would like to try and make some nice reports!
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Gorgeous in Nishi-Nippori
[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]For those who are curious, the website for this place can be found at:[url]http://www.2007carnival.com/toppage.html[/url]I don't know for sure, but the service list includes a "maru-hi" or "top secret" service listed, so I would be surprised if they don't include honban.[/QUOTE]Don't know what happened, I wanted to go there again, but checked their homepage, its not working anymore. The place must have gone bust already. Anything to do with this forum?
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[QUOTE=Backtobasics]Nice girl, small, slender and tanned. After a long and pleasant prelim to the main event, she was genuinely surprised when I reached for a condom. "No sex" were the words I heard .... After a double-take and a request for confirmation, I accepted this sorry news and went back to business.Now, we got on very well, before and after this, so I (like to think!) it wasn't anything I did to make her close the shutters. I wonder though, is it only me that has had to hear these sad words from a Grimpeur gal?[/QUOTE]You've learnt nothing from this forum at all. This a classic example of why we get barred from most places.
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Grimpeur - a mixed report
BacktobasicsI am wondering; how long did you book the girl for? If it was less than 90, 75 or even 60 minutes perhaps she might have felt that providing FS was not worth her time, effort or pay. She may also have been holding out for a tip but not willing to tell you so.
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[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]BacktobasicsI am wondering; how long did you book the girl for? If it was less than 90, 75 or even 60 minutes perhaps she might have felt that providing FS was not worth her time, effort or pay. She may also have been holding out for a tip but not willing to tell you so.[/QUOTE]60 minutes. She was very chatty, and I don't think she was holding out. She is 'new', so perhaps she just following the letter of the law? Dunno.For the sake of scientific research, if anyone else books Risa, let us know the result. (but don't ask me to cover your expenses!)
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I'll be visiting Tokyo in August. It will be my first trip there, so I definitely want to see some sights and explore the city's offerings as well as try my luck as a gaijin in the red light districts. This forum (and this thread in particular) has been extremely helpful for understanding what the Japanese scene is all about and the proper etiquette of various transactions.One thing I haven't seen much of is discussion about good places to stay for those who want to pursue both traditional sightseeing and mongering. I know places near Shinjuku and Roppongi are good for the latter. Are they good for the former? Anyone have particular suggestions for places to stay? I'll probably book my entire trip through expedia (or the like), so less obscure options are probably better.Thanks in advance, and sorry if this post should have been made elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=Japanguy]You've learnt nothing from this forum at all. This a classic example of why we get barred from most places.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, backtobasics did nothing wrong here. He asked twice, then moved on. Had he kept pushing the girl asking her for FS, then that would be a different story. There seems to be some sort of misconception on these forums that asking for FS from a non-fs place will get us as a whole banned. Granted, when I first started out mongering here in Japan, I was too scared to ask for FS, afraid I would be kicked out had the girl refused. However, nowadays I ask EVERY single time I go to a fuzoku place here in Japan. The most I'll ask is twice though, any more than that and not only do you come off as a jerk, but you risk getting us thrown out. There is nothing wrong with asking, and many of the girls will be very accommodating. No one will "snitch" on you. It's only when you're being really pushy will the girls decide to do something about it. Ask the girls, they'll tell you this same thing.I'd also like to point out that to this day, I am a favored customer of a certain store. They call me up whenever they get a new girl who fits my type. This is despite the fact that not only do they constantly remind me FS is "not allowed" but also that I'm constantly requesting these girls to provide FS.
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[QUOTE=Backtobasics]First the good news - easy to find, near the station, very accommodating, even though my Nihongo skills are less than zero. A busy Saturday evening, so only 2 girls available - I chose Risa.Nice girl, small, slender and tanned. After a long and pleasant prelim to the main event, she was genuinely surprised when I reached for a condom. "No sex" were the words I heard .... After a double-take and a request for confirmation, I accepted this sorry news and went back to business.Now, we got on very well, before and after this, so I (like to think!) it wasn't anything I did to make her close the shutters. I wonder though, is it only me that has had to hear these sad words from a Grimpeur gal?ps: the Moti Hotel, opposite Grimpeur, is indeed as smelly and dirty as reported here before > but it's only a few steps across the road, so who can complain!?[/QUOTE]The business has a lot of turnover, and new girls may be genuinely surprised you are asking for FS. Experienced girls will not be, and may offer it for free to a repeating customer or a customer they are truly hot for. Or they may try to hit you up for 5,000 or 10,000. All depends on the girls. No harm in asking once or twice though, as zcorps mentioned.
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[QUOTE=Japanguy]You've learnt nothing from this forum at all. This a classic example of why we get barred from most places.[/QUOTE]Japanguy - are you a troll, or do you have trouble reading the English language? Did you even read my original post? If so, and if you understood it, you are a troll. If you didn't really read it, or don't understand it - read it again.
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[QUOTE=Backtobasics]60 minutes. She was very chatty, and I don't think she was holding out. She is 'new', so perhaps she just following the letter of the law? Dunno.For the sake of scientific research, if anyone else books Risa, let us know the result. (but don't ask me to cover your expenses!)[/QUOTE]One thing to point out is that the Grimpeur site has a category for FS (アナルファク, it means 'anal fuck' but everybody knows it's code for FS). Girls who are FS-OK have a circle, girls who are FS-NG have a cross. (The detailed reports above are of FS-OK girls. Of course, if you had been speaking Japanese, the dude would have explained all this to you, and he may well have.)Of course, as ZCorps, points out, asking, or just going, for FS is standard for most guys. Even if she acted surprised, I would bet dollars to cents that you aren't the first guy that asked. (And I'd bet my right arm that you wont be the last.) Acting surprised is some kind of automatic J-girl response. I look like a young Robert De Niro and I'll tell a J-girl I'm Italian American and she acts like she's blown away by the news.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]One thing to point out is that the Grimpeur site has a category for FS (?A?i???o?C?u, it means 'anal fuck' but everybody knows it's code for FS). Girls who are FS-OK have a circle, girls who are FS-NG have a cross. (The detailed reports above are of FS-OK girls. Of course, if you had been speaking Japanese, the dude would have explained all this to you, and he may well have.).[/QUOTE]Thanks for those wise words. Only 2 girls with the magic circle at the moment.Of course if I could understand Japanese I may well have heard this from the young dude who walked over to the hotel with me.
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[QUOTE=Backtobasics]Thanks for those wise words. Only 2 girls with the magic circle at the moment.Of course if I could understand Japanese I may well have heard this from the young dude who walked over to the hotel with me.[/QUOTE]My mistake. Now it says アナルバイブ which means 'anal vibe' but I'm almost certain that it said 'anal fuck' before, as well as anal vibe. In particular, the girl who was reported on before, in her favorite pay (好きなプレイは ) it says blow job, whereas before it definitely said 'anal fuck.'
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]My mistake. Now it says アナルバイブ which means 'anal vibe' but I'm almost certain that it said 'anal fuck' before, as well as anal vibe. In particular, the girl who was reported on before, in her favorite pay (好きなプレイは ) it says blow job, whereas before it said 'anal fuck.'[/QUOTE]Yes I noticed that other option disappeared a few days before I went there. I wonder if there has been a bit of a shake-up?
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[QUOTE=Backtobasics]Thanks for those wise words. Only 2 girls with the magic circle at the moment.Of course if I could understand Japanese I may well have heard this from the young dude who walked over to the hotel with me.[/QUOTE]If you had read this forum you would know that, and you would not have heard from the "young dude".Anyone who has read this forum should know that FS is not on the menu except for clearly stated exceptions which are well documented here, eg KDH, Chinese, AM.[QUOTE=Backtobasics]Did you even read my original post? If so, and if you understood it, you are a troll. If you didn't really read it, or don't understand it. Read it again.[/quote]What is there to misunderstand? You didn't ask, you simply "reached for a condom", and when knocked back you had to check what you were told. You either fully expected you were getting FS or were rude enough to try your luck. And now you are checking to see whether this girl will put out for someone else! This is exactly the main reason foreigners are turned away. People not knowing what goes on or just being rude. This forum has well documented this.
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[QUOTE=Zcorps]In my opinion, backtobasics did nothing wrong here. He asked twice, then moved on.[/QUOTE]He didn't ask.
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Time to shut it
[QUOTE=Japanguy]...whatever...[/QUOTE]Dude, you need to shut the pie hole. Reaching for a condom and confirming whether FS is allowed are totally in bounds. You are out of bounds claiming this kind of behavior causes problems. It does not. Someone with 10 posts should not be lecturing folks about how things are done, especially with that tone and while being so damned wrong.F'ing relax.ES
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Dude, you need to shut the pie hole. Reaching for a condom and confirming whether FS is allowed are totally in bounds. You are out of bounds claiming this kind of behavior causes problems. It does not. Someone with 10 posts should not be lecturing folks about how things are done, especially with that tone and while being so damned wrong.F'ing relax.ES[/QUOTE]No need to have all these posts criticizing each other.I have reached for the condom with almost every DH girl. Some look surprised and say no, some say OK, some say OK for a fee. None have ever been upset.It is possible they think you want to shoot into the condom on a BJ, so honban does need to be clarified.And AF "may" be a codeword for FS. Then again it might mean AF. But most girls who offer AF aren't so picky if you want FS, so at the end of the day you'll probably have access to both doors if you pay the extra 5-10,000.
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I agree with Lion - let's put an end to all this bickering. The event itself was all over in a second, and no harm was done at all. I even walked away with a (swiftly) hand-made birthday card from her.More to the point, given that the original 'AF' 'option' has been removed from the girls' profiles, it might be (just) possible that they are now frowning upon AF, FS, or whatever.
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Grimpeur
i have been going to grimpeur since they first started excepted foreigners. i speak japanese fairly well and have spoken with the guys at that run the place and have spoken with a lot of the girls there. the first time i went there i got fs. it is definately not a sure thing there. maybe 50% ok and 50% not ok. it really depends on the girl and what they are feeling and you. the af mark was there way of indicating that they give fs, when in fact they do not give af at all.there appears to have been some problems there. i am not sure what. the last two times i went in i got very legal sounding answers from the girls that they do not offer fs and neither does the shop. this is a change from the previous times i went where i had to explain to the girls that i was not instrested in bbfs and wanted to use a condom.i can say one thing for sure. they are not as excited to see foreigners so much any more. the percentage of foreigner clients has greatly increased. at first they liked it because it brought in extra revenue in hard economic times. however, overall alot of girls don't like having to service foreigners and the japanese clients don't like putting their weenies in the same places as whitey.another thing i have noticed is the quality of girls is dropping there. a few months ago when the economy was looking more glum they had some first time in the business time of girls that were desperate because they lost there office jobs, they were all sweet and cute. lately, they seem a bit more used. the last time i went the girl was ugly and clearly wacked out on speed i could not take it. she kept talking and talking and then told me she would give me a hj. before she would start she started telling me the depressing stories of her life i almost just got up and walked out. in the end i got a cold mecanical hj.the experience was so bad i was questioning whether i would ever go there again.[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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no need to argue
[QUOTE]And AF "may" be a codeword for FS. Then again it might mean AF. But most girls who offer AF aren't so picky if you want FS, so at the end of the day you'll probably have access to both doors if you pay the extra 5-10, 000.[/QUOTE]a few points: 1. No need to argue or to be accusitory. Different places, different days, different experiences. Too many variables to get up on a soapbox and talk about "rules" and "consequences"2. In MY experience, asking for FS from DH has NEVER upset the girl. Most say yes, some say "no". (I have never tried asking and then asking again with a price---but can appreciate how that can also work for some)3. For the 1st time, recently I reserved an AF course from Milky Baby (report to follow) and the girl said "no" to FS. Interesting concept on many levels but, hey, I can live with that.4. If people are looking for DH w/ J-girls, why don't more use the10000yen.com? They seem as gaijin friendly as it gets and seem to have new girls coming through all the time. Seems like 85-90% of the girls provide FS in my experience.Maybe I'm lucky or naiive. But let's face it: nearly all of us who speak Japanese, speak Japanese with an easily detectible accent (fluent or not). If you call up a place and try to make an appointment, they'll steer you away at that point if they don't like gaijin. For me this has only happened once (lucky, I guess. Or relatively small # of attempts). So, if you see a place you'd like to try, call 'them up and try to make a reservation.Happy hunting!
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Milky Baby
Recently had my 1st experience with milkybaby. Jp. I made a reservation online. My 1st choice wasn't available, but they worked with me via e-mail to let me know what my choices were. I picked a girl called Tamaru who was lactating (a new one for me).Their system is to follow their map and get to their building and give them a call to learn the exact apartment/suite number. I did so and the "papasan? " told me where to go. When I entered he asked me to have a seat and made some small talk and showed me the photo of the girl I chose online without her face being covered to ask me if I was OK with the choice. I agreed and he asked for the payment. He disappeared for a minute or 2 and came back with a membership card for me and told me to use the membership # when reserving in the future. He made more small talk (this is all in Japanese, by the way) and then excused himself again. About 5 mins later Tamaru showed up and he sent us off to a nearby LH (different from the one I selected in the online form but, fine by me). Tamaru was, objectively speaking, a pretty plain girl. Bad teeth in the multiple rows sorta-way (as opposed to rotting) and---understandibly so--seemed quite "motherly" in appearance/dress, despite being in her early 20s.Tamaru and I checked into the room and I bought her an orange juice. She asked me if I wanted a bath, shower or both and I said "both" (90 min course). We undressed and started to shower. Afterwards we got into the tub. We started to touch each other and make out (she was definitely into DFK) and she asked me if I'd ever been with a lactating girl before. I honestly answered "no" and she started to show me how she could squirt her breast milk and then encouraged me to try. More caressing/kissing/fondling and then she asked me if I'd like to go to the bed. I said "yes".In the bed, BBBJ, 69, DATY, and DFK. Then she asked me if I'd like to do "AF". I said "sure" (again everything in Japanese). She lubed up, grabbed a rubber for me and we got going. 1st with her on her back and then I flipped her to her knees. Very good AF in all the right ways, so I popped after not too long.We relaxed and chatted for a bit and then got to touching/DFK again. After I was ready for more, with here stroking me I asked her if she could do "honban" (FS). She politely said that she couldn't, but proceeded with a BBBJCIM that lasted for about 25-30mins. At completion she vacuumed everything with her mouth, and reached for tissues to spit and another to clean me/dry me off.We chatted a bit more and about 5 mins later, the front desk called for the "15min warning". We showered, got dressed and took off.While chatting, Tamaru said that the shop does have some foreign customers but most are Asian, non-Japanese (which I am not). She mentioned that, she finds it awkward to deal with these customers by using only sign/body language and that she was relieved that I could speak Japanese.Bottom line: great shop, I will go back. I will try a different girl next time. My opinion is that one would have a better experience if you can speak OK/decent Japanese. I don't wanna tell guys to be "careful" not to ruin the place because I assume that most of us behave with common sense in these settings. The lactating thing was cool in terms of "checking off a box" of things I hadn't tried before, but not something I'll necessarily seek out. There are all types of girls there and the customer service seemed quite friendly and accommodating.Any questions?[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Tokyo Pink Guide forums
I was just looking through the TPG forums for the first time in a while. It's a shame that we have people with similar interests sharing apparently useful information in two separate places... makes it that much less searchable/findable/useful. There are some decent-seeming reviews over there, and a preponderance of Asian Mystique talk. One thing I don't like: since most of the posters are 'anonymous' the posts are naturally less reliable... especially some of the rave reviews (reminded me of Manami's boyfriend posting on here a while ago in response to my less-than-rave review of Tokyo Melty Kiss). Seems like there might be an AM troll or two trying to drum up business. I could be wrong, but user id's with post counts and histories would certainly remove most doubt.ES
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Mini-review: Airi @ Grimpeur
Here is a quick review of Airi at Grimpeur/Shibuya. Stopped in to the shop, first time. Was shown three pictures -- the guy behind the desk clearly shuffled through his deck of picture cards, and selected to show me only those girls who are gaijin-friendly... par for the course. I picked Airi, who was pretty cute. I paid a 1k membership fee plus 10k for 45 minutes, if I recall. Then I was guided to the dive love hotel across the way (1 min walk) by the desk manager's assistant. Paid the 2.5k 90 min. room charge, went to the room and waited. Airi showed up about 5 minutes later. She was cute and fun:Cuteness: 7Funness: 7.5FS was included for no additional charge, although the condoms in the room were a tight fit. Bring your own. I would recommend Airi although she didn't shoot the lights out. I think the information on her profile is largely accurate. Sorry for the brief review, but no time. Happy to answer any specific questions later.Overall, I can take or leave Grimpeur. It's not bad, but clearly not all the girls are available to us folks, plus that fleabag motel... and the fact that FS is not a foregone conclusion -- seems to be case-by-case: YFSMV.ES
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Milky Baby
The papa at Milky Baby is reluctant to communicate in English by e-mail (but you can get around that with online language translation) and on the phone (but he probably will if necessary), but once you meet him in person he will speak quite good English with you. He is very personable.However, be advised that in my opinion a large number of girls on both his sites are not actually available, even though they once were. It seems to me he keeps them on the sites to make the pages look full and the phone ringing.
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[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]The papa at Milky Baby is reluctant to communicate in English by e-mail (but you can get around that with online language translation) and on the phone (but he probably will if necessary), but once you meet him in person he will speak quite good English with you. He is very personable.However, be advised that in my opinion a large number of girls on both his sites are not actually available, even though they once were. It seems to me he keeps them on the sites to make the pages look full and the phone ringing.[/QUOTE]Yes, I found the same thing - on all counts. The papa talked my ear off both times I went there (about a huge range of topics), so much so last time the girl had to remind him why I was there.It's a kind of 'unique' establishment though - not for all tastes, but kind of refreshing in it's 'services' and the ambiance of the office. Though having said that, last time I almost 'phased-out' of reality as I sat talking to the papa about global shipping with my gal (a 'plumpy') tapping him on the shoulder. Out of my left eye I saw the door open, and a Japanese Mr Magoo look-alike walk in the door. His date, a breastfeeding mother, was busy doing just that in the little lounge at the back of the shop. The baby was quite noisy though ... I was happy to get out onto the relative calmness of the Ikebukero streets afterwards!Their 'favored' hotel is a Korean-run joint just around the corner. Not bad, not great - but very close. A little bit pongy, but nowhere near as bad as the Hotel Moti opposite Grimpeur. You can use any Ikebukero hotel though, but the papa might 'suggest' the usual one.Both of the plumpy girls I saw were heavily (pardon the pun) into AF, with a host of twists and toys - but neither would allow FS. Seemed odd to me, after some of things they wanted me to do with them, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.I saw the first one for a 'date' just after she quit MB, and just before she left Tokyo, and she had no qualms about FS on that occasion. I think the papa might be insisting on the FS rule - but now I expect a slew of people saying they got it!
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[QUOTE=Suedehead] Then she asked me if I'd like to do "AF". I said "sure" (again everything in Japanese).[/QUOTE]Somewhat of a dumb question, but when one refers to AF in spoken Japanese, do you actually say 'ayy effuu' or would you say 'anaru faaku'?
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[QUOTE=Meiji]Somewhat of a dumb question, but when one refers to AF in spoken Japanese, do you actually say 'ayy effuu' or would you say 'anaru faaku'?[/QUOTE]In conversation I would normally say "anaru faaku" but in the love hotel I would instead say "omai wa oshiri ni suki desu ne..haiyaku chou dai!" In my deepest yakuza voice. :P
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rep001 services anywhere?
hello,i as wondering if there are any places that offer rep001 services.i want to eat it directly from the womans ass.i already tried it here at this place:[url]http://www.eldoradoyui.com/girls.html[/url]i had experience of rep001 with every girl at this place.each of them had a different taste, but they all were quite good.i am looking for other places that offer this kind of service.let me know.fynx
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Milky Baby Follow Up
My first experience at MB was with a lactating mother (not exactly my thing). I paid the extra 5000 for AF. She offered me FS, but I creamed the condom before I could get in, so technically did not do it.My second round was with the plumpy named Pinky, not to awfully plump on a taller than average frame and great tits, but kind of a strange person. We had a fantastic session going so I thought she was primed for FS, but she said flat no. I tried like hell to get it in her ass but she squeled like a stuck pig. I couldn't even get the tip of my head in. Anyway, she can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, so after 25 minutes of that I inseminated her tonsils with a giant load. A fairly satisfying experience, but I won't repeat. I think there are much better values to be had in Tokyo for about the same money.
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No thanks
[QUOTE=Fynx Gloire]I want to eat it directly from the womans ass. Each of them had a different taste, but they all were quite good. Fynx[/QUOTE]I'm not knocking what you are into for your own personal pleasure, BUT, your post truly made me sick, as in I almost vomited.
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[QUOTE=Techrepjapan]I'm not knocking what you are into for your own personal pleasure, BUT, your post truly made me sick, as in I almost vomited.[/QUOTE]He might want to eat that too.
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Grimpeur
I visited Grimpeur again this weekend. I have been using this place since before they changed its name. Anyway they told me they are not taking foreigners anymore, but then they told me I was alright because I speak Japanese and have been a long term customer. I don''t know how true this is exactly but is normal unfortunately for every shop that is not designed for foreigners that takes foreigner to stop the experiment quickly as too many non Japanese speaking people turn up and start asking all sort of questions when the rules are all ready posted. The shop guys told me it was not worth the effort...Also Moti is not a requirement if you can still get in you can use any hotel that is on the list on the desk. Moti is easy for them as the girls spend less time in transit and are easier to keep safe. AF course is also off the menu now as they told me if was "troublesome" whatever that means but I noticed my other favorite club also took it off the menu if tat means the law changed or the shops are owned by the same people I don't know. My girl still did it when I asked for the same price but asked me not to tell the club so I don't want list here name her sorry. She was fantastic though if you can speak fluent Japanese this place is still good.[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Here is a quick review of Airi at Grimpeur/Shibuya. Stopped in to the shop, first time. Was shown three pictures -- the guy behind the desk clearly shuffled through his deck of picture cards, and selected to show me only those girls who are gaijin-friendly... par for the course. I picked Airi, who was pretty cute. I paid a 1k membership fee plus 10k for 45 minutes, if I recall. Then I was guided to the dive love hotel across the way (1 min walk) by the desk manager's assistant. Paid the 2.5k 90 min. room charge, went to the room and waited. Airi showed up about 5 minutes later. She was cute and fun:Cuteness: 7Funness: 7.5FS was included for no additional charge, although the condoms in the room were a tight fit. Bring your own. I would recommend Airi although she didn't shoot the lights out. I think the information on her profile is largely accurate. Sorry for the brief review, but no time. Happy to answer any specific questions later.Overall, I can take or leave Grimpeur. It's not bad, but clearly not all the girls are available to us folks, plus that fleabag motel... and the fact that FS is not a foregone conclusion -- seems to be case-by-case: YFSMV.ES[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Suedehead]a few points: 4. If people are looking for DH w/ J-girls, why don't more use the10000yen.com? They seem as gaijin friendly as it gets and seem to have new girls coming through all the time. Seems like 85-90% of the girls provide FS in my experience.[/QUOTE]Since this was the first I heard of this DH place, I gave them a try a few nights ago. I called and asked for a girl they had listed as a 21yo gyaru. The woman they sent was in her late 30s and had normal OL style with long black hair. I called and told them they had sent me the wrong girl. At first the shop tried to explain that this was the same girl, but I pointed out that she was probably 15 years above the listed age and not at all gyaru. Then they said they were sorry but that it wasn't possible to get a replacement. Since the girl was waiting in my genkan and clearly did not want to leave, I decided to take her anyway. She was much older than I generally accept and not hot, but her body was OK and her attitude and service were great. She was very submissive (素直 ) and accepted whatever I wanted to give her. We started making out, I went down on her and within 5 minutes of her coming in from the genkan I was inside her pussy. She gave great head, took hard pounding in her pussy, a few minutes of anal, one facial and another load on her pussy. She was pretty into it and I got fairly worked up, so we went way over the time. At that point the shop got all worked up and started calling repeatedly. Eventually, they called my phone and started demanding a fee for extension. They got rude fairly fast. I tried to talk to the girl about it to figure out how they were calculating the extension etc. She was acting like she had no idea what was going on. Eventually, the guy in the car got out and started ringing the bell incessantly. The girl is still pretending like she has no idea what is going on and tries to tell me a robber is trying to enter the building. In the end, they only wanted 2,000. A good fuck, a minor adventure in miscommunication and a fairly reasonable price but I don't think I'll repeat.
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Grimpeur
[QUOTE=Katana]I visited Grimpeur again this weekend. I have been using this place since before they changed its name. Anyway they told me they are not taking foreigners anymore, it is normal unfortunately for every shop that is not designed for foreigners that takes foreigner to stop the experiment quickly as too many non Japanese speaking people turn up and start asking all sort of questions when the rules are all ready posted. .[/QUOTE]I can confirm this also from my attempt yesterday. Don't waste your time on a hot day., went there there and got the NG from the manager and his assistant. Better bet is to take the train a few more stops to Shinjuku and go to Hinomaru which is a proven gaigin friendly place.
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2 cents
[QUOTE=Nampa Guy]I can confirm this also from my attempt yesterday. Don't waste your time on a hot day., went there there and got the NG from the manager and his assistant. Better bet is to take the train a few more stops to Shinjuku and go to Hinomaru which is a proven gaigin friendly place.[/QUOTE]Very True. Give it some time (economy) and they might be gaijin friendly again. I've been here quite a few years, unfortunately, every time I went was during they're off period. They've gone back and forth several times. I think the managers right, it's not worth the hassle to deal with people that don't have the language skills, and may not understand the rules. Also keep in mind the Japanese stereotype that foreigners are stronger and more aggressive than Japanese people. (May not be true, but it's the perception). If he can't be 100% percent sure you understand, why should he trust you? All of this sucks because I'm moving back to Tokyo soon and was looking forward to trying grimpeur. AM is way too expensive, Supergirls is off limits, is UCLABear still GF? Don't like waiting in that room though. Nasty-dolls has some new girls. Never tried them, but I've NEVER heard anything good about dealing with them either. I've heard 10000 yen actually charges more and the girl selection is different at the english speaking Roppongi office, is that true? I'm very capable of nampa, but the time and effort, actually getting to know the person, her falling "in love" with you. C'mon, we all know you end up paying one way or another. You might as well spend your money and get exactly what you want.
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KDH experience
Have been living in Jpn a while, speak the language well. Saw that K-girls ([url]http://k-girls. Jp/top.html[/url]) was one of the KDH's mentioned here, decided to give them a shot. Uguisudani is a bit out of my way, but as I'm a free man for 2 days, figured it's something I need to try.Called up the number earlier in the day, made an appointment, asked for 'Rena' for 100min. This was all done in Japanese.Decided I would buy some chocolates to give the girl, can't hurt to help them get a bit more in the mood. Finally get to Uguisudani, head out the north exit, should have turned right out of the exit but went straight, then turned right, so wasted a bit of time looking for the hotels (also should have looked from the train platform. Oh well). As nothing really stuck out, just picked one at random, get in my room and call their number from my cell, give them the hotel and room number and the guy calls the room phone.Maybe 15min later a knock at the door, I open the door and a decent looking girl is standing there. I invite her in, thinking whether they've pulled the bait and switch on me, as I'm looking at her a bit more, I realize it is the girl I've ordered. Damn, whoever photoshops their website is a genius. I guess I should have expected it, but for some reason was hoping to get this drop dead gorgeous chick with giant cans. Oh well. 7 out of 10? Probably wouldn't have been disappointed in the looks (have paid for worse) if the website photos weren't so good.Very bad vibes at this stage, no smiles from her, she tries to confirm the time for the session, but I have problems understanding her Japanese, she gets on the phone with her shop and all is well. Asks me for ?25, 000, give her ?23, 000 as there is supposed to be a 2000yen discount. I don't fault her for this. Was worth a shot on her part. Still just a very awkward situation. I'm trying to find something to talk to her about, 'what do you like to do? ' 'sleep' 'oh? ' 'This job exhausts me, guys just want to fuck me.' Ya don't say. A very awkward and not really friendly chat. She asks if she can smoke, I say sure (says on her bio that she doesn't smoke, then again why believe anything on there).I apologize for the hotel selection, explain how I've never been to Uguisudani before and just picked a random hotel, she tells me this is the worst hotel in Uguisudani. Ha ha ha. She's not saying this in a joking manner at all, seems 100% serious. I had those chocolates in my bag, but left them in there, her making zero effort at this stage deserves nothing. Will give them to some girls at work tomorrow.Finally she suggests getting in the shower. We undress separately, nice big cans on her, she goes in to the dinky little bath/shower and adjusts the water, a very clinical washing of my body follows. Nothing at all arousing about it. It is so awkward that I would have felt strange grabbing her. She tells me to go dry off, she comes out of the shower, asks me to get on the bed, starts licking my nipples.That was the first remotely sexual thing she'd done, ok maybe I needed to take charge earlier on, but quite frankly her attitude was a major turnoff. So she works on both nipples for a bit, then goes down to my still soft dick, her technique was very good and I was hard in no time, rather enjoying my BBBJ (I don't get enough of these.), thinking that things are starting to look up. Rather quickly she grabs a rubber, puts it on me, grabs her tube of lube, jams a handful up her snapper then hops on top. Surprisingly things are quite firm and she starts pistoning up and down. In fact she's quite firm, much tighter than I have been experiencing lately and I actually finish up quite quickly, I tried to slow her down a couple of times, but she went right back to pistoning up and down. As I had the 100min, was thinking before I got there maybe I would shoot via BJ or something early on, then later find some more energy for round 2. Well I probably should have bashed one out before getting there.Now I'm stuck having to get it up again for a girl that I am not attracted to, or to somehow kill time. After a while of sitting there she offers to massage me. Yes please. She actually does a reasonable job at it, though nothing sexual about it, no brushing my balls, playing with my taint, or anything. As I am laying there, I then remember reading somewhere on the forum that one should go with 60min for a KDH and extend as required. Doh for not remembering that earlier.She sort of thaws a little bit after this and we find a few things to talk about, I realize that I am not going to get it up for round 2 as I have no interest. We shower, still clinical but a bit more friendly than the first one, we are actually talking now. Get dressed, she checks in with her company, puts me on the phone, they ask me if everything was satisfactory, I say yes as the girl is sitting 4 feet from me, hand the phone back, she hangs up and we walk out.If her attitude was a bit more friendly early on (as it was at the end), this probably would have been a much better experience.Will I try KDH again in the future. YesWill I use K-girls again? Maybe, but probably try one of the other places next timeWhat would I do differently. Either ask for a friendly girl, or maybe pick one of the top ranked girls, also pick a better hotel.One more day of freedom for me. Damn Manami for being on holiday. Might try a soapland for the first time ever tomorrow, or I guess can always go with AM.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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So what's the story on Grimpeur?
Can we still get in if we speak Japanese and maybe visit when they aren't busy?Or is it totally GNF now?I've got a loyalty card I was hoping to fill up.
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Nishi-Nippori
Hi all, I wanted to try Nishi-Nippori again after last time (see previous report)But the website of the previous shop ("Gorgeous") disappeared, so I checked again on [url]www.fuzoku. Jp[/url]. Looked at the first page of the shops listed in the area as "ESTEMASSAGE" (? ). I noticed one of the shops (Diamond) seemed to have some photos looking like "Gorgeous". Probably they just renamed the shop.ESTEMASSAGE means you don't have to go to a love hotel (= cheaper). The price among the shop was roughly the same (10, 000/hour or even cheaper). Remember I had FS last time. I decided to go for a Korean (FEEL) shop. They probably never saw non-Asian Gaijin there (I am asian looking and I can speak a minimum of Japanese) and probably they are not that welcome.The rule is that you should phone the mama-san first who will give you directions to the shop (just next to the station). Then choose girls on the menu. Went for a Oosama (King) Course. 2 girls 2x35mn 14, 000 yens, 2 pops.I didn't expect the girls to be good looking at all (remember Gorgeous, and price very low), and to be honest, they werent good looking. Giving 5/10 would be generous, 3 or 4/10 would be it. You wouldn't notice them if walking in the street. On the website, and on the photos mama-san shows you they would look like 7 8 or 9 / 10 but the photoshop guy is a real genius.However they were both very friendly. Basically 1st half of each session was a massage. Yumi started standing on me and massaging with her feet, then made a very good massage of my butt (wow) then undressed and did CBJ and FS. That was quick, but very good. She was really unto it, moaning load despite the other customers, and enjoying it (she came) and told me she never had such a "big one" in her pussy (probably true, but she probably never did gaijin, my dick is rather small for European standards.). I came on her pussy, but I'm sure I could have CIM if I had been a little more clever.Then round 2 with Sora, she started lubing my back and lubing her own body, and then that was a body body massage. She was petite and had reasonably sized tits (yumi had no tits and no butt, slender 'hirame'), but not a pretty face. The body body was REALLY GOOD. Went to a soapland once, but this one was better I think. Then, she managed to get me hard for round 2, and sat on me, I started banging her as good as I could while I was still hard, but round 2 is always difficult for me, I started softening so she finished me with HJ (I should have asked CBJ) but it was still very good feeling.All in all, very convenient to access, little waiting time, very good service, very cheap but the girls are not very good looking. 50% massage / 50% este is the rule. For me, more satisfying 2nd pop needs more time or excitement, or training or drugs?[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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First Time in Tokyo
I will be in Tokyo for business in July. I don't speak a lick of Japanese and I was wondering where I could go and have a good time with the ladies. Any help would be great I am staying at a hotel and really can't afford to have any embarrassments so something off property would be great.Thanks in advance for any help.
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[QUOTE=Red Sushi]I will be in Tokyo for business in July. I don't speak a lick of Japanese and I was wondering where I could go and have a good time with the ladies. Any help would be great I am staying at a hotel and really can't afford to have any embarrassments so something off property would be great.Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE]the best advice, since you have quit a few days ahead of your arrival is to RTFF. Very helpful.
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Iyashi in Gotanda report
I had some free time this afternoon so I decided to try Iyashi-ya in Gotanda. (There link [url]http://www.iyashiya-h.com[/url]) It is easy to find from there website and they had no problem with me not being Japanese. I think this place used to be called Sweets and Fruits before. The place was clean and well lit which in itself beats most of the dank establishments I have frequented.I decided to go for the Akusari course for 90 minutes and since they had a campaign going on the total price came to 10, 000 yen. Quite affordable compared to what I normally pay. I made no requests for a particular type of woman and I got a delightful well preserved 37 year old Korean woman named Fuka. The place is staffed by Korean and Chinese women.She spoke no English and I used my level 4 Japanese to communicate and while lying naked on the table, I realized I should have studied Japanese more so experiences like this can be more enriching.The aksuri was good and she was very competent practioner. It is a pleasure in the humid and sticky summer that we go through here, to have a nice scrub down by a cute woman with a loofah sponge.After about 1 hour of getting my pores opened, we returned to her room where she gave me a small massage and then a happy ending. Then a shower again and a 10 minute massage. The one thing that annoyed me was that she was clothed scantily but still clothed. However her attitude during all this was professional and friendly, not a GF experience, but I still found passing time with her pleasurable.I was a gentleman as it was my first time so I did not grope, fondle or request for additional services. At 10, 000 yen and my first visit, I thought I would see what is initially offered and then if I returned I may gently request additional services. Would I recommend it, yes with some caveats. You have to speak some Japanese, the more, the better. If you want a decent massage, your body washed and a nice hand job for 10, 000 yen then it is your place.Next time my report on Tompo, another Korean Este in Gotanda.
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Pig Benis
May I congratulate you on an excellent first report. You have great potential as an ISG reporter.I am exceedingly glad to know that K-Girls girls do an after the event on site customer service call to the office. Hence, I would certainly ask for a friendly girl and make sure everyone knows I will give an honest opinion of her service during the follow up call.However, my personal preference is to avoid surgically plumped up tits like those belonging to Rena.
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[QUOTE=Red Sushi]I will be in Tokyo for business in July. I don't speak a lick of Japanese and I was wondering where I could go and have a good time with the ladies. Any help would be great I am staying at a hotel and really can't afford to have any embarrassments so something off property would be great. Thanks in advance for any help.[/QUOTE]R - E - A - D T - H - E F - * - C - K - I - N - G F - O - R - U - M ! ! !You are welcome.
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Grimpeur = gaijin OK
I've only used the place twice before and I had no issue today. They didn't give me any funny looks even before I opened my mouth or showed my card. So I'm really not sure what the problem is. It might be one guy that sometimes works on the desk who doesn't like foreigners or something?By the way, some of the girls here definitely still give FS. One of the girls who serviced me said as much. But they all have different conditions, I guess. Some of them like to be tipped; some will only do it if you go for a longer session; some will do it without any encouragement; others just won't do it. It's a mix that I've seen in many a DH. One of the funny things is on the site some of the girls have "Favourite play: missionary position", so that's kind of a giveaway too.[QUOTE=Katana]I visited Grimpeur again this weekend. I have been using this place since before they changed its name. Anyway they told me they are not taking foreigners anymore, but then they told me I was alright because I speak Japanese and have been a long term customer.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Techrepjapan]R - E - A - D T - H - E F - * - C - K - I - N - G F - O - R - U - M ! ! !You are welcome.[/QUOTE]Reading the forum is definitely a good start. That's what I did, and I think I've learned a lot. However, a lot of the site-specific information is outdated, which can be an issue.For example, I am planning on staying in Roppongi for a week in August, but I'm not really sure which hotel locations offer a good balance of normal tourist things to do as well (suggestions are appreciated). It feels like a crapshoot when trying to rely on posts made many months or even years ago.
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Some helpful information
Hey guys: I pass by Grimpeur a lot, and there is a "hoteheru" right around the corner from Grimpeur (look for the first door on the left around the corner; there are stairs going up.) They definitely take foreigners, and in fact it has long been my "go to" establishment for taking out-of-town visitors. It costs about Y13, 000, and the selection of girls is pretty modest, but all the touts know where it is, and it is open late at night (I think about 3am). It is definitely FS, in fact pretty much nothing but. It is the only establishment in the area that is consistently open to foreigners, and all the touts will guide foreign-looking guys to this establishment. Just ask the touts.Now on to the main report-- I have been looking for a replacement for Paprika, and I think I have found it. Look at [url]www.tokyo-s-p-m.com[/url], [url]www.tulip-k.net[/url], [url]www.pinky-t.com[/url], and [url]www.hichu200.com[/url]. They are in Takadanobaba, and they are almost identical to Paprika! All FS, all Chinese esutes, all close to the Waseda exit to Takadanobaba station, all at about the same price-- 8500 yen for one hour.The rundown is the same-- shabby little apartments, the girl comes out to greet you, takes you to the showers, modest massage, then on to the main action (watch for when they reach for the lube.). I have had very good results with Tokyo Stand Pie Me-- it is out the Waseda exit of Takadanobaba station, then left along the main street, straight for about 5 min. Of walking, until you see a yellow katakana "higuchi" drug store sign on the right side. Just before the yellow sign, there is an alley. In the alley is a lone ramen shop. To the left of the ramen shop, there is an entrance to the building. Go in, and take the elevator to the third floor. Around the corner is Tokyo Stand Pie Me. I have tried Riri and Ringo, they were both very good service. You can choose from photos. Be nice to the girls and DON'T FUCK THIS UP FOR ME.There you go, several new spots for you to check out. Don't forget to report back![size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Hi,Just want to ask regarding the morning discount of Tokyo clubs like TS Music, DX Kabukicho, or Ueno Theatre. It is way cheaper if you avail of the morning discount.But is the discounted ticket valid for the whole day? Or up to 12pm only?
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Tokyo in a Month
I see their are many post here, I will start my reading before I ask any questions... on this thread but one question has anyone travel to Aomori, Japan? Looking for some action up their.
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[QUOTE=Maglock]I see their are many post here, I will start my reading before I ask any questions... on this thread but one question has anyone travel to Aomori, Japan? Looking for some action up their.[/QUOTE]Rather than looking in the Tokyo forum, try the Misawa forum, as that is in Aomori prefecture. There don't seem to be any Aomori posts in "Other Areas."
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[QUOTE=Eleemosynary]Reading the forum is definitely a good start. That's what I did, and I think I've learned a lot. However, a lot of the site-specific information is outdated, which can be an issue.For example, I am planning on staying in Roppongi for a week in August, but I'm not really sure which hotel locations offer a good balance of normal tourist things to do as well (suggestions are appreciated). It feels like a crapshoot when trying to rely on posts made many months or even years ago.[/QUOTE]First, I would suggest not staying in Roppongi. It's noisy and often full of drunk Marines (appreciate what they do, but drunk US Marines can be a dangerous group). I would suggest somewhere else, like Shinjuku, Ikebukuro, or Ueno. Second, if you are interested in tourist stuff, I would try Wikitravel or the Japan travel section on About.com
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[QUOTE=Maglock]I see their are many post here, I will start my reading before I ask any questions... on this thread but one question has anyone travel to Aomori, Japan? Looking for some action up their.[/QUOTE]As it seems to be so hard to get "gaigin friendly" p4p action in an international city like Tokyo, I think you would have even less chance in a "rural" area. You could try and find a RLD there and see what happens, but you might have more luck trying to nampa a girl in a restaurant or donut shop.
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valid all day
[QUOTE=Roquejo]Hi,Just want to ask regarding the morning discount of Tokyo clubs like TS Music, DX Kabukicho, or Ueno Theatre. It is way cheaper if you avail of the morning discount.But is the discounted ticket valid for the whole day? Or up to 12pm only?[/QUOTE]Discounted tickets are valid all day as long as you enter first before 12. You will save 1000 yens, i recall, not much more...
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Aomori
[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin]As it seems to be so hard to get "gaigin friendly" p4p action in an international city like Tokyo, I think you would have even less chance in a "rural" area. You could try and find a RLD there and see what happens, but you might have more luck trying to nampa a girl in a restaurant or donut shop.[/QUOTE]Ah, that's my old ground up there. You'd better speak some Nihongo to get around. The "RLD" are not very GJF in that area, to say the least. Hachinohe has a shitty old strip club next to Hon-Hachinohe Station. Used to be a few South American girls would work there at times, and you could pay extra money to poke them in between shows. Very antiseptic sex at best, but that's about the best you could buy back in the later 90's. You might try partying on the weekends at the campgrounds around Towada-ko and Odawara-ko (just outside the air base). People get pretty drunk and ladies can get friendly. All in all, the best you can do is just enjoy the food and friendly folks up there and if something comes along, take advantage quietly. If that doesn't happen, don't be too surprised. It's an economic hell there and lots of people have moved out.O-tanoshimi ni!Tankuki
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[QUOTE=Dreams]Discounted tickets are valid all day as long as you enter first before 12. You will save 1000 yens, i recall, not much more...[/QUOTE]thanks for the tip. Actually, you'll save more. for example, the regular price of TS Music is 5200 yen, but with the morning discount, it is only 3600 yen.That is better than their 1000 off discount coupon
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Chancedh Report: indeed a chance to possibly waste your cash
I've been lurking for a couple of years and never posted mainly because I don't monger as much as I used to. But I hit a dry spell and decided to shell out cash for a Korean DH spot mentioned here that I was looking at for a while--chancedh. Well, the staff on the phone were very nice. My japanese is not perfect but good enough to get most things done, and when there was difficulty the mama-san was helpful and patient. Away, I didn't want any more than a 80 minute course (their lowest amount of time) but for whatever reason they claimed they could only offer a 100 minute course. So that plus a 5,000 taxi fee... but I have the cash and I wanted to give them a try so I bit the bullet and accepted the total 30,000 fee. About 45 minutes later the girl arrives (Jennifer) and she's ok but nothing like the website photo, but that's cool, I understand that part of the game, and she was decent enough looking. Just keep in mind that the stunner you see by the name of Jennifer on the site does not exist except in the mind of the photoshopper who designed that grand illusion. Anyway, from minute one this chick clearly illustrated that she did not want to be there. I would have sent her away, but I was at first mistaking her attitude for just nervousness. Nope. She gets in, and before even saying hello, how are you, what's your name she goes "pay first?" with a semi-serious/concerned look. Now I've done all kind of mongering over the years, so I don't need pampering, but I figure since we're gonna be together for the next 100 minutes she could be a little more personable. I live in an upscale neighborhood, I was dressed well and well groomed, so the nervousness on her part was kind of weird to me.Anyway, I gave her the cash and then chatted her up for about five minutes after which she abruptly asked if we could go to the shower. I was not really into her at this point and had been trying to melt the ice around her first before getting started, but again I just decided to go with the flow and we when to the shower. Nice body, not amazing, but nice, about a 6.5, if her attitude was better I might have overlooked the scars on her belly and arm and leg and gave her a 7, but alas...She initiated no real intimate contact other than robotically grabbing the privates for washing. After about 2 minutes of this I told her it was ok, I could wash myself. I did try to wash her a bit (again, trying to melt the ice), but while she didn't stop me, she was quite unresponsive. So we finish quickly, hit the bed and she proceeds to covered BJ. I couldn't believe this crap. If I want covered bj (basically ineffective for me) I can just wack one out myself to a video. Needless to say there was no kissing or any other intimacy beyond my snacking on her tits a bit. Anyway, after that she switches positions so we can commence FS. At this point I'm actually a little shocked, I was starting to think she was going to do all kind of non-sex gymnastics just to finally tell me no FS. But to my surprise we were off the the races. Admittedly, for a session with a chick who didn't seem happy at all, she was relatively wet and tight and gave decent enough FS that I came after about 10-15 minutes. Whoa, my mistake. While I'm still laying there breathing heavy from the session and trying to get my wits back, she's already off the bed and asking me to come to the shower again. I'm like, damn, this chick really doesn't want to be here. I finally grew a pair and told her to hold on, while I rested a bit. She sat back down and basically ignored me watching TV while I sat there looking at her back wondering why I suddenly felt that I had to freaking seduce a chick I had just paid. After about 5 minutes I tell her ok, let's hit the shower. We do, same situation as before, nothing erotic or vaguely intimate. Then while still in the shower she tells me, 'I have to hurry, there is a taxi waiting for me.' I raise my eyebrows and say, 'Uhm, I paid for the 100 minutes course, you've only been here about 30 minutes' At which point she tells me that the 100 minutes includes the travel time it took her to get my apartment. ???!!!!! She actually said that BS. I tell here, NO, I 'know' that's not true. I told her, 'I don't pay for 'your' time, I pay for 'my' time.' She seems to realize her slick hustle logic wouldn't work and dropped it. We go back in the bedroom and she sits there naked again ignoring me watching tv. Again I'm thinking, 'really?' I've got to seduce some girl that's being paid to be here??? Well, like I said, I'm an experienced mongerer, so while I've actually seduced (or whatever you want to call it) my share of paid ladies from being sour into being happy, 1)this girl was not hot enough to warrant such a hail mary act, 2)despite my service request, I actually wasn't feeling 'that' hard up, & 3)she had yet to show even one chink in her armor of 'I don't really want to be here.' especially after the hustle attempt regarding the 100 minute course. I felt that attempt was over the top and borderline grounds for calling up the mama-san to get some of my cash back. But I didn't go there, when it comes to mongering I found that it's best to be extremely mellow in all dealings.So instead of trying to get her to change her mind I decided to just ask her, 'Do you not like foreigners?' She said, no, that's not it. Ok. 'Do you feel uncomfortable here for some reason? Because you really don't seem like you like being here at all.' Again, she goes, 'No, I'm ok.' So it's at that point I decide, ok, let's take her at face value and let's give this another whirl. I ask to come lay next to me. She ignores me (she spoke good english, so no communication problem). I look at her back knowing she heard me and say again, nicely and softly, hey, why don't you come lay next to me. She reluctantly comes, keeping her back to me while watching tv (I know, turn it off, but really, it was the only thing saving the episode from turning ugly). So I'm rubbing her shoulder and I then I give her nipple a lick and she shrugs me off. Hmmm... ok, now I'm actually getting a little ticked off. I say to her, again softly and playfully, 'hey, I want to play some more.' I didn't say 'what' I wanted to do, I just said 'play.' She turns around with a serious look and tells me that I only get one pop for the 100 minute course. I tell her that she has a lot more time left so we should do 'something'. She just clams up. The experienced monger in me told me that I had just been 'kinda' hustled and possibly dissed (though it's never good to take any mongering episode personally, it really is mostly business wrapped in emotional / sensual / sexual pretty wrapping). So I decided to cut bait and get on with my life immediately. I told her that I was not mad, but that I could tell she didn't want to be here, so she could leave now. Oddly enough, she starts protesting as if there's some argument to be had about time and courses, and I tell her very softly 'I don't want to talk about the time, it's OK. you can leave now, no problem.' It's important for me to stress that I said all this to her softly and nicely so as not to escalate things in any way. So she realizes I'm serious, gets out the bed, puts her clothes on and leaves. Good riddance.Back story on the girl: She said she had just gotten to Japan a month ago and that's why she could speak 'no' Japanese, only english and korean. She planned to only stay in the japan for a couple of months to make cash and then go back to korea. Which really makes me wonder what's going on in korea. the service price of kdh is not 'that' premium, so it seems odd that the korean girls would have to leave a relatively rich nation like south korean just to hook out here in japan. My verdict on Chancedh: Although I appreciated the niceness of the mama-san, and the girl was not bad looking, the fact that I was compelled to choose a higher priced/longer course than I had wanted, and then didn't even get the full impact of the extra time leaves me feeling a bit scorched. I think if you have some sort of specific yearning for korean girls and have money to blow, it's only a decent deal, certainly not amazing or noteworthy. For 30,000 I definitely expect some GFE, and what I got was pretty much the opposite. p.s. To any dissenters regarding chancedh, I won't begrudge you your disagreement, we all have different experiences. But keep in mind that I've been lurking here for over two years, have been mongering for at least 15 years, and this is the first time I've 'ever' posted a negative experience on an escort anywhere, which should give you some idea of the level of dissatisfaction that prompted this admittedly overlong and over-detailed screed.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]First, I would suggest not staying in Roppongi. It's noisy and often full of drunk Marines (appreciate what they do, but drunk US Marines can be a dangerous group). I would suggest somewhere else, like Shinjuku, Ikebukuro, or Ueno. Second, if you are interested in tourist stuff, I would try Wikitravel or the Japan travel section on About.com[/QUOTE]Thanks.I decided to get a room at the Sunroute Plaza in Shinjuku.Hopefully I can add a report or two after or during my August trip.
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Tokyo Stand Pie Me
My first report on the board, and I want to give a big thank you to Ultra Gaijin for his report and directions. I would add that for Tokyo SPM, the door number is 302.On to my report. I went yesterday about 8:00 PM, and no problems finding the place or getting in. My Japanese is pretty good, and the only questions were where I was from, and the amount of time I wanted to spend there (1 hour).There was a red flag when the door guy told me to sit and wait without showing me the photos of girls available. I asked, and was shown 3 or 4 girls. I chose Hana (see website).I waited in the waiting room for a few minutes then was told to go to the last "room" on the left. The girl that was waiting for me was certainly NOT the girl from the photo. Maybe 35, short, a chubby, and not cute at all. This is not the first time that a Chinese Este has done a bait and switch on me. Because it was my first time there, and not wanting to cause problems for Ultra Gaijin by complaining to management, I decided to bite the bullet and go through with it.Back to the shower room, a quick wash, then back to the room. This was certainly not a GFE experience. The girl complained about being tired, being cold, and how big my dick was (she took out her phone and wanted to take a photo! )About 3 min of BBBJ, then greased up for sex. She was tight, that's about the best I can say for her. All around terrible performer. When finished, I asked her to give me a massage. She said she was tired and wanted to lay down instead. WTF? It was pretty uncomfortable, so I asked if I could take a shower and leave.On my way out, the doorman slipped behind the curtain as I was leaving. He knew I was unhappy with the bait and switch, also with the service.In all, maybe I was just unlucky yesterday. Who knows, but I have yet to have a really good experience at a Chinese Este. Never had a GFE, or one even close. Still for 8, 500 yen it's a bargain I guess.Girl- 2/10Service-0/10
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Tokyojoe, Thanks for your report. I had been considering a trip to uguisudani to try out chancedh. The recent Korean DH reports have been pretty negative as of late, so I'm gonna give it a miss. In my experience, its better to just try calling Japanese places, like on this site - [url]http://www.night-life.jp/shinjuku/[/url] until you get a hit. Its also worth trying Deai. That way you can meet the girl before you decide to take the plunge! [QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07]I've been lurking for a couple of years and never posted mainly because I don't monger as much as I used to. But I hit a dry spell and decided to shell out cash for a Korean DH spot mentioned here that I was looking at for a while--chancedh. Well, the staff on the phone were very nice. My japanese is not perfect but good enough to get most things done, and when there was difficulty the mama-san was helpful and patient. Away, I didn't want any more than a 80 minute course (their lowest amount of time) but for whatever reason they claimed they could only offer a 100 minute course. So that plus a 5,000 taxi fee... but I have the cash and I wanted to give them a try so I bit the bullet and accepted the total 30,000 fee. About 45 minutes later the girl arrives (Jennifer) and she's ok but nothing like the website photo, but that's cool, I understand that part of the game, and she was decent enough looking. Just keep in mind that the stunner you see by the name of Jennifer on the site does not exist except in the mind of the photoshopper who designed that grand illusion. Anyway, from minute one this chick clearly illustrated that she did not want to be there. I would have sent her away, but I was at first mistaking her attitude for just nervousness. Nope. She gets in, and before even saying hello, how are you, what's your name she goes "pay first?" with a semi-serious/concerned look. Now I've done all kind of mongering over the years, so I don't need pampering, but I figure since we're gonna be together for the next 100 minutes she could be a little more personable. I live in an upscale neighborhood, I was dressed well and well groomed, so the nervousness on her part was kind of weird to me.Anyway, I gave her the cash and then chatted her up for about five minutes after which she abruptly asked if we could go to the shower. I was not really into her at this point and had been trying to melt the ice around her first before getting started, but again I just decided to go with the flow and we when to the shower. Nice body, not amazing, but nice, about a 6.5, if her attitude was better I might have overlooked the scars on her belly and arm and leg and gave her a 7, but alas...She initiated no real intimate contact other than robotically grabbing the privates for washing. After about 2 minutes of this I told her it was ok, I could wash myself. I did try to wash her a bit (again, trying to melt the ice), but while she didn't stop me, she was quite unresponsive. So we finish quickly, hit the bed and she proceeds to covered BJ. I couldn't believe this crap. If I want covered bj (basically ineffective for me) I can just wack one out myself to a video. Needless to say there was no kissing or any other intimacy beyond my snacking on her tits a bit. Anyway, after that she switches positions so we can commence FS. At this point I'm actually a little shocked, I was starting to think she was going to do all kind of non-sex gymnastics just to finally tell me no FS. But to my surprise we were off the the races. Admittedly, for a session with a chick who didn't seem happy at all, she was relatively wet and tight and gave decent enough FS that I came after about 10-15 minutes. Whoa, my mistake. While I'm still laying there breathing heavy from the session and trying to get my wits back, she's already off the bed and asking me to come to the shower again. I'm like, damn, this chick really doesn't want to be here. I finally grew a pair and told her to hold on, while I rested a bit. She sat back down and basically ignored me watching TV while I sat there looking at her back wondering why I suddenly felt that I had to freaking seduce a chick I had just paid. After about 5 minutes I tell her ok, let's hit the shower. We do, same situation as before, nothing erotic or vaguely intimate. Then while still in the shower she tells me, 'I have to hurry, there is a taxi waiting for me.' I raise my eyebrows and say, 'Uhm, I paid for the 100 minutes course, you've only been here about 30 minutes' At which point she tells me that the 100 minutes includes the travel time it took her to get my apartment. ???!!!!! She actually said that BS. I tell here, NO, I 'know' that's not true. I told her, 'I don't pay for 'your' time, I pay for 'my' time.' She seems to realize her slick hustle logic wouldn't work and dropped it. We go back in the bedroom and she sits there naked again ignoring me watching tv. Again I'm thinking, 'really?' I've got to seduce some girl that's being paid to be here??? Well, like I said, I'm an experienced mongerer, so while I've actually seduced (or whatever you want to call it) my share of paid ladies from being sour into being happy, 1)this girl was not hot enough to warrant such a hail mary act, 2)despite my service request, I actually wasn't feeling 'that' hard up, & 3)she had yet to show even one chink in her armor of 'I don't really want to be here.' especially after the hustle attempt regarding the 100 minute course. I felt that attempt was over the top and borderline grounds for calling up the mama-san to get some of my cash back. But I didn't go there, when it comes to mongering I found that it's best to be extremely mellow in all dealings.So instead of trying to get her to change her mind I decided to just ask her, 'Do you not like foreigners?' She said, no, that's not it. Ok. 'Do you feel uncomfortable here for some reason? Because you really don't seem like you like being here at all.' Again, she goes, 'No, I'm ok.' So it's at that point I decide, ok, let's take her at face value and let's give this another whirl. I ask to come lay next to me. She ignores me (she spoke good english, so no communication problem). I look at her back knowing she heard me and say again, nicely and softly, hey, why don't you come lay next to me. She reluctantly comes, keeping her back to me while watching tv (I know, turn it off, but really, it was the only thing saving the episode from turning ugly). So I'm rubbing her shoulder and I then I give her nipple a lick and she shrugs me off. Hmmm... ok, now I'm actually getting a little ticked off. I say to her, again softly and playfully, 'hey, I want to play some more.' I didn't say 'what' I wanted to do, I just said 'play.' She turns around with a serious look and tells me that I only get one pop for the 100 minute course. I tell her that she has a lot more time left so we should do 'something'. She just clams up. The experienced monger in me told me that I had just been 'kinda' hustled and possibly dissed (though it's never good to take any mongering episode personally, it really is mostly business wrapped in emotional / sensual / sexual pretty wrapping). So I decided to cut bait and get on with my life immediately. I told her that I was not mad, but that I could tell she didn't want to be here, so she could leave now. Oddly enough, she starts protesting as if there's some argument to be had about time and courses, and I tell her very softly 'I don't want to talk about the time, it's OK. you can leave now, no problem.' It's important for me to stress that I said all this to her softly and nicely so as not to escalate things in any way. So she realizes I'm serious, gets out the bed, puts her clothes on and leaves. Good riddance.Back story on the girl: She said she had just gotten to Japan a month ago and that's why she could speak 'no' Japanese, only english and korean. She planned to only stay in the japan for a couple of months to make cash and then go back to korea. Which really makes me wonder what's going on in korea. the service price of kdh is not 'that' premium, so it seems odd that the korean girls would have to leave a relatively rich nation like south korean just to hook out here in japan. My verdict on Chancedh: Although I appreciated the niceness of the mama-san, and the girl was not bad looking, the fact that I was compelled to choose a higher priced/longer course than I had wanted, and then didn't even get the full impact of the extra time leaves me feeling a bit scorched. I think if you have some sort of specific yearning for korean girls and have money to blow, it's only a decent deal, certainly not amazing or noteworthy. For 30,000 I definitely expect some GFE, and what I got was pretty much the opposite. p.s. To any dissenters regarding chancedh, I won't begrudge you your disagreement, we all have different experiences. But keep in mind that I've been lurking here for over two years, have been mongering for at least 15 years, and this is the first time I've 'ever' posted a negative experience on an escort anywhere, which should give you some idea of the level of dissatisfaction that prompted this admittedly overlong and over-detailed screed.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
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Filipina in Tokyo
Based on reports going back numerous pages in the thread, I'd say that the general consensus right now is that, for a gaijin with less than conversational Japanese, there is a great risk of finding oneself totally unable to score J-girl FS, or even BBBJ, in Tokyo no matter how many attempts are made.Is it the same way with Filipinas in Tokyo? Are they protected from devil gaijin as well? If not, can someone suggest a place for guaranteed Filipina P4P? After happily breaking my J-cherry with 2 sessions in Tobita earlier this year using nothing more than a bow and smile, then feeling that the lower end water trade must be universally open to gaijin, what disappointing news this is. To find out that the largest city has less opportunity! I had high hopes for doing a layover in Tokyo next month and maybe even getting image health opportunities, but it sounds like my RS Level 1 Japanese and a nicest salaryman's suit won't get me there. So sad, but willing to try my luck on Filipina if anyone can advise on the subject.
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The motive for Korean girls
[QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07].........Back story on the girl: She said she had just gotten to Japan a month ago and that's why she could speak 'no' Japanese, only english and korean. She planned to only stay in the japan for a couple of months to make cash and then go back to korea. Which really makes me wonder what's going on in korea. the service price of kdh is not 'that' premium, so it seems odd that the korean girls would have to leave a relatively rich nation like south korean just to hook out here in japan. ......[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]The motivation is the steep fall of the value of the SK Won against the Yen in the past couple of years. I don't follow Yen/Won in any detail, but I do remember that late last year the Won was down by 40%.That, plus a three month visa, makes it possible to do a kind of reverse sex tourism in which the ladies come to the clients.
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Korean Girls
The "satisfy the customer" attitude is just not ingrained in Korean girls like it is in most Japanese, so ones chances of getting good or bad service are always like rolling dice. We should always keep that in mind along with the heavily Photoshopped web site images.
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Hi TokyoJoeJoe,excellent report. I am regular at ChanceDh and I totally agree with you. I have been trying different KDH agencies recently and I have had a 50/50 good/bad experiences success rate. I heard the reason so many Korean girls are coming to Japan is because authorities in Korea are cracking down on prostitution. Add this to a bad economy and a weak Korean Won and herds of Korean girls are heading for Japan and the U.S to make money.About Chance, if you have another bad experience you should definitely call the Mama-san and COMPLAIN. The 100 mins starts when the girl knocks on your door, 100 min is 2 shots, it's standard. I complained before to a KDH agency and managed to get some of my money back. Instead of a picking up a specific girl, ask the Mama-san for a yasashii girl with a good attitude. [QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07]I've been lurking for a couple of years and never posted mainly because I don't monger as much as I used to. But I hit a dry spell and decided to shell out cash for a Korean DH spot mentioned here that I was looking at for a while--chancedh. [/QUOTE]
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Thanks Gaijin Otoko
I have been checking out the Misawa forum and I agree from what I read the strip clubs do not seem to have good eye candi. I did find some Japanese websites where you can order a girl in Aomori area and Hachinohe, I was told to visit the love motels and ask for a girl. Once I do I will post my findings.[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Rather than looking in the Tokyo forum, try the Misawa forum, as that is in Aomori prefecture. There don't seem to be any Aomori posts in "Other Areas."[/QUOTE]
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Aussiegaigin Thanks
You from Australia? I love the land down under, I think I will have better luck in Tokyo than Aomor but i will be their in a week so wish me luck lol.[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin]As it seems to be so hard to get "gaigin friendly" p4p action in an international city like Tokyo, I think you would have even less chance in a "rural" area. You could try and find a RLD there and see what happens, but you might have more luck trying to nampa a girl in a restaurant or donut shop.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks JoeJoe
I think to get good service, its really a matter of luck. If I can speak of my own experience, you have to be polite, show that you MAY be a return customer. Speaking some good Japanese, asking for good service ("yasahikute, sa-bi-su ga ii no onna", looking like a pervert, insisting to have a girl on the photo (shimei dekimasuka? ), let them know you've been going to other shops as well. Then be kind with the girl, and show confidence? Also, as the report on ChanceDh shows, there is no correlation between the price paid, and the level of service. Thats why (and I have restricted my budget too) I try to go to the lower priced joints. At least if I get ripped off, its not by much, and I have lower expectations. Then, you may be lucky (I've rather been lucky, maybe I'm the type Fuzoku workers like? ), and when you are, its better to stay with the shop/girl for a while.If you get ripped off, COMPLAIN. That might help the next customer, at least.With DH I've had only had one problem in Japan was with CB! Actually with the girl from CB (can't remember her name). I complained with the manager and he kindly offered me a discount for the next time, but I never used it ever since. I didn't find the girls from CB so attractive on photos, and its a bit overpriced anyway.
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[QUOTE=Bonkers Tokyo]My first report on the board, and I want to give a big thank you to Ultra Gaijin for his report and directions. I would add that for Tokyo SPM, the door number is 302.On to my report. I went yesterday about 8:00 PM, and no problems finding the place or getting in. My Japanese is pretty good, and the only questions were where I was from, and the amount of time I wanted to spend there (1 hour).There was a red flag when the door guy told me to sit and wait without showing me the photos of girls available. I asked, and was shown 3 or 4 girls. I chose Hana (see website).I waited in the waiting room for a few minutes then was told to go to the last "room" on the left. The girl that was waiting for me was certainly NOT the girl from the photo. Maybe 35, short, a chubby, and not cute at all. This is not the first time that a Chinese Este has done a bait and switch on me. Because it was my first time there, and not wanting to cause problems for Ultra Gaijin by complaining to management, I decided to bite the bullet and go through with it.Back to the shower room, a quick wash, then back to the room. This was certainly not a GFE experience. The girl complained about being tired, being cold, and how big my dick was (she took out her phone and wanted to take a photo! )About 3 min of BBBJ, then greased up for sex. She was tight, that's about the best I can say for her. All around terrible performer. When finished, I asked her to give me a massage. She said she was tired and wanted to lay down instead. WTF? It was pretty uncomfortable, so I asked if I could take a shower and leave.On my way out, the doorman slipped behind the curtain as I was leaving. He knew I was unhappy with the bait and switch, also with the service.In all, maybe I was just unlucky yesterday. Who knows, but I have yet to have a really good experience at a Chinese Este. Never had a GFE, or one even close. Still for 8, 500 yen it's a bargain I guess.Girl- 2/10Service-0/10[/QUOTE]I believe I had the same girl today at ~1200. Perhaps she's better at the beginning of her shift, very playful, decent f*ck, gave massage without my asking. Even opened the curtain to show the girl in the next 'room' my gear. Speaking Mandarin with her probably helped a bit also (gaijin fraternity).
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[QUOTE=Maglock]You from Australia? I love the land down under, I think I will have better luck in Tokyo than Aomor but i will be their in a week so wish me luck lol.[/QUOTE]Yeh, I come from the land down under. I've had a few trips to Japan over the last 25 years or so, but I never really looked into the p4p situation. Didn't have the advantage of ISG in those days, but usually plenty of contacts for some free nampa rendered it unnecessary.One early trip I was down in Hakata (as it then was) for a couple of days; went for a walk after dinner one night and must have wandered into the RLD. Got a couple of willing offers from touts to go into their soap. I'd read about them, so thought I would try one out. Middle aged woman, no English, but went through the standard play ending a reasonable FS. Didn't get offers like this in any other places, even if I went out of my way to get noticed.My only other experience was somewhere near Kanazawa. Was in the area on a "cultural exchange" visit with City officials, and the local mayor organized a visit to a soap for some of us. Reasonable girls provided, but I think we might have been their first gaijin visitors; we were probably forced upon them with some political pressure.Good luck. Let us know if you find anything.
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Nikko Narita
I'm so new here. Never been to Japan. Will be staying in Nikko Narita for a couple of nights. Can someone please direct; any actions in this hotel or around the vicinity? Much obliged.
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[QUOTE=Mkliang]I'm so new here. Never been to Japan. Will be staying in Nikko Narita for a couple of nights. Can someone please direct; any actions in this hotel or around the vicinity? Much obliged.[/QUOTE]Please check the Abbreviations list for the term RTFF.There is precious little action near the airport. In fact, there is precious little anything near the airport. It is not an accident that it is often referred to as the "least convenient International Airport in the World." Whether this is true or not is debatable, but it captures the essence of the fact that the airport is about 1 hour away from "civilization." And since you are brand new to Japan, I will clue you in to something else. The Japanese consider themselves unique. Not only unique, but uniquely unique. The country is less than 2% non-Japanese. Consequently, you will have to do a lot of work to get anything not on the official "honored guest" list. Based on the language in your e-mail, it does not seem that you are intending to make that level of commitment. If you just want to "score a J-girl," I suggest contacting Asian Mystique. You can search this forum for hundreds of posts about that particular agency, called AM for short.
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[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin]Yeh, I come from the land down under. I've had a few trips to Japan over the last 25 years or so, but I never really looked into the p4p situation. Didn't have the advantage of ISG in those days, but usually plenty of contacts for some free nampa rendered it unnecessary.One early trip I was down in Hakata (as it then was) for a couple of days; went for a walk after dinner one night and must have wandered into the RLD. Got a couple of willing offers from touts to go into their soap. I'd read about them, so thought I would try one out. Middle aged woman, no English, but went through the standard play ending a reasonable FS. Didn't get offers like this in any other places, even if I went out of my way to get noticed.My only other experience was somewhere near Kanazawa. Was in the area on a "cultural exchange" visit with City officials, and the local mayor organized a visit to a soap for some of us. Reasonable girls provided, but I think we might have been their first gaijin visitors; we were probably forced upon them with some political pressure.Good luck. Let us know if you find anything.[/QUOTE]I will definately let you know if I find any action. I will be in Aomori the day after tomorrow for a month. Plenty of time to find some free action or p4p. I will post my findings when the action is done. I will have to check up on those soapy massages areas in Tokkyo.
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Translation
I really do not understand whatever Gaijin Otoko is trying to say, though jump on the Skyliner to either Nippori or Ueno. Takes about 50 minutes.Haven't checked of late, though sure you can find directions to the infamous NYNY Soapland, Ueno UBC, etc. in Ueno (little or minimal Japanese needed). In Nippori, I suggest Funny, Rabbit or Yuri in which limited Japanese is needed. If you can speak, Four Seasons, Diamond or Paradise are quite good. Not sure if Vitamin is servicing foreigners these days.From Narita, Funabashi is about half way to Tokyo though haven't tried anything there personally.
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[QUOTE=Kanda]I really do not understand whatever Gaijin Otoko is trying to say...[/QUOTE]Really? I completely understand what he is saying... RTFF!Once again, a complete newbie logs on asking for personal attention before he has spent any time searching this forum, that in 10 or 15 minutes of reading, could probably answer 90% of his question.As for your reply and suggetions, not really helpful for a newbie that has never visited Japan. Your suggetions really do not apply to someone that asked about action around Narita.
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[QUOTE=Techrepjapan]Really? I completely understand what he is saying... RTFF!Once again, a complete newbie logs on asking for personal attention before he has spent any time searching this forum, that in 10 or 15 minutes of reading, could probably answer 90% of his question.As for your reply and suggetions, not really helpful for a newbie that has never visited Japan. Your suggetions really do not apply to someone that asked about action around Narita.[/QUOTE]The advice given is the best in the circumstances. If you know of ation around narita, just let us know instead of rubbisg=hing other suggestions. I would also advise him to take the Narita express to Ueno, and go to NYNY. A cheap gaijin friendly soap. Of course, he should be warned that he may end up with a 45+ ordinary woman, who may not even give him a BJ, although there are chances he may get a younger one, get BBBJ, AR etc... The key at NYNY is to be very polite, say "yes" when shown the card with the rules ( essentially, no FS). I don't speak a word of japanese, but I can explian "young" and "busty" and i ususally get it...
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De-ai Cafe Kirara in Kabukicho
I guess this report properly belongs in this thread, because it's basically p4p. I tried going to Kabukicho to a "deai cafe", Cafe Kirara. It's just around the corner from Koma Theater, in the center of Kabukicho, and I have good reason to believe basically all deai cafes operate similarly.You pay a Y1000 joining fee ("down from Y10, 000! ") and a Y4000 entrance fee. You get led into a dark, long room with a bunch of other horny guys sitting around, surfing the internet or reading mangas or porno mags. One wall of the room is a one-way mirror, and through it you can see a bunch of girls, sitting around doing the same thing. They can't see you. If you see a girl you like, you tell the attendants, and they put you and the girl in a "talk room" for 10 minutes. The rules are, you can't touch the girls, and you can't exchange contact information. If, after 10 minutes of talking, you and the girl agree, you can pay a 5, 000yen leaving fee, and take the girl out of the club with you. If you don't agree with the girl to leave, you can go back to the "men's room" and watch for other girls to come in.Here's the thing; girls know what's up. I took one girl to a talk room, and we immediately started talking about going to play in a love hotel. We agreed on a price, (25, 000 yen-- I know it's steep, but I'm paying for the information). The service was so-so-- she had obviously done it before.I was mainly interested to see if you could "close the deal", and apparently you can. Several friends also "closed the deal" that night. So the girls are basically there to hook, although the store pretends they are there to talk and fall in love.Total damage: 37, 500yen. But this hard-won information will benefit a generation of mongers, I'm sure.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin]I guess this report properly belongs in this thread, because it's basically p4p. I tried going to Kabukicho to a "deai cafe", Cafe Kirara. It's just around the corner from Koma Theater, in the center of Kabukicho, and I have good reason to believe basically all deai cafes operate similarly.You pay a Y1000 joining fee ("down from Y10, 000! ") and a Y4000 entrance fee. You get led into a dark, long room with a bunch of other horny guys sitting around, surfing the internet or reading mangas or porno mags. One wall of the room is a one-way mirror, and through it you can see a bunch of girls, sitting around doing the same thing. They can't see you. If you see a girl you like, you tell the attendants, and they put you and the girl in a "talk room" for 10 minutes. The rules are, you can't touch the girls, and you can't exchange contact information. If, after 10 minutes of talking, you and the girl agree, you can pay a 5, 000yen leaving fee, and take the girl out of the club with you. If you don't agree with the girl to leave, you can go back to the "men's room" and watch for other girls to come in.Here's the thing; girls know what's up. I took one girl to a talk room, and we immediately started talking about going to play in a love hotel. We agreed on a price, (25, 000 yen-- I know it's steep, but I'm paying for the information). The service was so-so-- she had obviously done it before.I was mainly interested to see if you could "close the deal", and apparently you can. Several friends also "closed the deal" that night. So the girls are basically there to hook, although the store pretends they are there to talk and fall in love.Total damage: 37, 500yen. But this hard-won information will benefit a generation of mongers, I'm sure.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Great info and we definately appreciate you TOFTT-but pretty pricey really.How long was the session, and what did the girls in the box look like? How many of them? For that price you could get a stunner for a couple hours at most DH (and pay her 10,000 fee if necessary), or a long KDH or AM/CB session.
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[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin]I guess this report properly belongs in this thread, because it's basically p4p. I tried going to Kabukicho to a "deai cafe", Cafe Kirara. It's just around the corner from Koma Theater, in the center of Kabukicho, and I have good reason to believe basically all deai cafes operate similarly.[/QUOTE]Hey Ultra Gaijin, thanks for this post. There have been 2 or 3 other posts on this club (also spelled Kilala), but this is the first one that lays out the logistics, various pricing, etc. Do you mind saying what your good reasons are for believing that all deai cafes operate in the same way? The reason I ask is that the most important thing when I p4p is that the girl be really HOT and secondarily that I can get some sense of her personality before I decide on her. (That's why lately I've been almost exclusively using Tobita, Kawazaki, type places. I can walk around a lot, decide who are the really hot girls, flirt with them, gets some sense of how playful they will be, etc. Of course, some of them are good actors, but I make them put a bit of effort into getting me to come into their shop and it usually translates into a fun time for all.) These deai places seem like they provide a good way to see if the girls are hot, and then you can chat for a bit to see if you click. Any idea how many times you can send the girls back? etc. Also, how did you and the girl decide on the price? Was 25,000 her starting quote? etc.
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Reprot on Yua of AM
Had the pleasure of seeing Yua the other day. I was a little nervous about booking her after some her past reviews but wow I'm glad I did! When she arrived I couldn't stop starring at her long sexy legs. She was wearing a tight black skirt and black stockings. We started with some chit chat to start sh is a very sweet girl. Then she took over and letting her take over was a smart move. She started lite then to a deep kiss and from there moved to BBBJ that was out of this world! Yua then mounted me rode me till I just couldn't take it any more. We then laid there and chatted for a while and then right back to work. Then we went to missionary then to doggy and watching sweet a$$ go back and forth was an almost heavenly site. I could hold back any longer and let go of the 2nd load. We ended with some more small talk then time was up. Yua never watched the clock and made feel like she really wanted to be there. If in fact she was tired and drained before that is not the case now she recharged and back to please! I'll more sure book her again ASAP!
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Now THAT'S the Yua I remember. I hope this Yua is back for a while. She's not a typical Japanese beauty but she has such a great "uh oh uh" face. When she's on she's really fun.[QUOTE=Irishman98]Had the pleasure of seeing Yua the other day. I was a little nervous about booking her after some her past reviews but wow I'm glad I did! When she arrived I couldn't stop starring at her long sexy legs. She was wearing a tight black skirt and black stockings. We started with some chit chat to start sh is a very sweet girl. Then she took over and letting her take over was a smart move. She started lite then to a deep kiss and from there moved to BBBJ that was out of this world! Yua then mounted me rode me till I just couldn't take it any more. We then laid there and chatted for a while and then right back to work. Then we went to missionary then to doggy and watching sweet a$$ go back and forth was an almost heavenly site. I could hold back any longer and let go of the 2nd load. We ended with some more small talk then time was up. Yua never watched the clock and made feel like she really wanted to be there. If in fact she was tired and drained before that is not the case now she recharged and back to please! I'll more sure book her again ASAP![/QUOTE]
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Yume, Kotomi of ND
spent 90min with yume a few weeks ago, she was pretty good. on time, cheerful, pro-active, and bubbly. her size is pretty close to the advertised 'f' just maybe a bit smaller, but very satisfactory. her goods are real, no implants of any sort of artificial stuffing. i had a very full filing time examining every inch of her boobs and doing some twister action. her face is attractive, figure is good, she is in shape - no am style belly fat. overall i would think she is older then 24, but probably not by very much. she took an initiative in the shower (give her a plus for that) and kneeled down for an un-obstructed access to the vital parts and did a very detailed clean & polish job.then the action took us to the bedroom and she was pretty good in bed. she likes to take action, likes to be on top and riding. i am ok with this and enjoyed, by being laid back this time. she is tight and has all the natural lubricants with a perfect timing. bbbj was equally impressive, she is a 'hoover' of an action. i managed 2 bulls eyes during our private encounter. i think she is still pretty new to the industry but she seems to be very willing to make sure you walk away happy and smiling. very good overall, would recommend and do again. given no reports on her and her relative newness on nd it was a toftt - please appreciate and enjoy!had kotomi, maybe 5-6weeks ago, just shortly after she became listed on nd. i actually was looking for someone new and hopefully not very experienced. the 'new' factor is what i was after. she was exactly that, a bit nervous, talked a bit too much, not sure what is the next step etc. i find that sweet, especially if you have the right chemistry going between you and the girl. i specifically waited until after the shower for the first kiss, she was a bit shy and timid - exactly what i was after. got very, very wet super quickly. i took the charge and we did a number of very juicy actions. she liked a lot (i think) finger play, i like to do this slow and move on to the next step when i see a lot of expectation written on the face... all in all she was pretty speechless by the end of the session and had forgotten her keitai (came back 5-6 min later and apologized for forgetting)ymmv, and she may no longer be so new and naive. i think her rack is not a 'd' but close to 'c' not fat, but not super thin. she is short and probably a bit smaller then the advert.just like yume there are no previous reports on her so i toftt for your benefit.[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Shill Alert
[QUOTE=Irishman98]Had the pleasure of seeing Yua the other day. I was a little nervous about booking her after some her past reviews but wow I'm glad I did! When she arrived I couldn't stop starring at her long sexy legs. She was wearing a tight black skirt and black stockings. We started with some chit chat to start sh is a very sweet girl. Then she took over and letting her take over was a smart move. She started lite then to a deep kiss and from there moved to BBBJ that was out of this world! Yua then mounted me rode me till I just couldn't take it any more. We then laid there and chatted for a while and then right back to work. Then we went to missionary then to doggy and watching sweet a$$ go back and forth was an almost heavenly site. I could hold back any longer and let go of the 2nd load. We ended with some more small talk then time was up. Yua never watched the clock and made feel like she really wanted to be there. If in fact she was tired and drained before that is not the case now she recharged and back to please! I'll more sure book her again ASAP![/QUOTE]This smells to me like a staged testimonial by an associate of the shop or the girl in order to drum up business: first post ever, over-the-top enthusiastic, and implication that this is a rebuttal of a previous poor review.Could be a legit report, but based on my experience the odds are against it. Reminded me too much of the Manami ringer a few months ago (Jimn1) who desperately tried to defend her only to disappear never to be heard from again -- he still has only two posts after claiming back in January: "I hope to contribute more reports in the future and maybe over time I will gain your trust" ... yeah, right. I guess we'll see whether Irishman98 turns out to be legit going forward.ES
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Chihiro @ D-Cup
I tried out D-Cup in Shimbashi the other day. To summarize the scene, it's on the second floor of the New Shimbashi Building in front of the station. There are a bunch of massage places on the same floor, could be legitimate but not sure, seemed to be mostly foreign (Chinese, Korean?) girls in those shops.D-Cup itself seems to be entirely Japanese staff. I was given the choice of two girls, Chihiro and one other (may have been Megu). I chose Chihiro, 10k for 30min course. She was friendly enough although perhaps a bit nervous. Body was OK, about a Japanese D-cup size as well, face was so-so. I got undressed and we showered (10 min) and then started out with some light kissing and a CBJ. She must have been budgeting another 10 min for the after-shower, because 5 min into the CBJ her alarm when off, at which point she told me there were only 5 min left until we needed to head to the shower. In the end I paid $100 for a 10 min CBJ/HJ. Not the best cost performance.The above is my view and YMMV. Foreigners as usual don't seem to get the full 'menu' of girls available, and for the service quality and price per unit time I can't recommend the place.ES
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Re: Yume, Kotomi of ND
Help us out Iced Tea: what was the financial damage in each experience? And was FS included? You say you TOFTT, but this is pretty basic info missing from your report.ES
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Yua report
Stoner I am in no way connected to to AM or Yua just a very satisfied customer that wanted share my experience with the rest of the mongers.
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[QUOTE=Barney Fife]What does ND stand for?[/QUOTE]Nasty Dolls? (STFF doesn't work work for TLAs - two letter acronyms - had to resort to [url=http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=site%3Awww.internationalsexguide.info+tokyo+nd]Google site search[/url])
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Help us out Iced Tea: what was the financial damage in each experience? And was FS included? You say you TOFTT, but this is pretty basic info missing from your report.ES[/QUOTE]90min => 35,000, ND plays by the same rules as AM in terms of FS, it's not advertised but it is included. When you book over the phone they'll send a girl to your place. If you are interested in anything else please ask.To another poster, ND stands for 'nasty dolls' do a google and you'll find them.
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Shinkansen action out of Tokyo in Nagano-ken?
Sorry to repeat this post from the "Other Areas" thread, but just curious if any Tokyo folks have availed themselves of this and have any feedback?Cheers!This story looked interesting; does anyone have firsthand experience with this (Chikuma city,) Nagano Prefecture phenomenon of the Tokura Kamiyamada Onsen p4p scene? It looks to be that you take the Asama Shinkansen from Tokyo to Ueda, change to the Shinano Tetsudo line 15 min. to Togura station.---[url]http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2009/0...-for-the-hills/[/url]To get wet with a gaijin, head for the hills
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[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]Sorry to repeat this post from the "Other Areas" thread, but just curious if any Tokyo folks have availed themselves of this and have any feedback?Cheers!This story looked interesting; does anyone have firsthand experience with this (Chikuma city,) Nagano Prefecture phenomenon of the Tokura Kamiyamada Onsen p4p scene? It looks to be that you take the Asama Shinkansen from Tokyo to Ueda, change to the Shinano Tetsudo line 15 min. to Togura station.To get wet with a gaijin, head for the hills[/QUOTE]I have not availed myself of this service or even been aware of it prior to the Tokyo Reporter article, but I can tell you:1. Kamiyamada Onsen is pretty far from the Shinkansen station.2. Nagano has historically been rather barren as far as P4P goes. Odd for a tourist spot, but the prefectural government has been pretty puritanical for a while, at least on the surface.3. Any and all P4P is going to be hard for gaijin to access. Not impossible, for sure, but requiring much more commitment than most punters are willing to put in. Especially if you don't have a Japanese wing-man opening the doors for you.4. The journalistic standards at Jitsuwa Knuckles would make William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer object. (If you don't understand this reference, check out "Yellow Journalism" on Wikipedia.)That said, if you want to do the leg work and TOFTT, I wish you the best of luck.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]I have not availed myself of this service or even been aware of it prior to the Tokyo Reporter article, but I can tell you:1. Kamiyamada Onsen is pretty far from the Shinkansen station.2. Nagano has historically been rather barren as far as P4P goes. Odd for a tourist spot, but the prefectural government has been pretty puritanical for a while, at least on the surface.3. Any and all P4P is going to be hard for gaijin to access. Not impossible, for sure, but requiring much more commitment than most punters are willing to put in.Especially if you don't have a Japanese wing-man opening the doors for you.4. The journalistic standards at Jitsuwa Knuckles would make William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer object. (If you don't understand this reference, check out "Yellow Journalism" on Wikipedia.)That said, if you want to do the leg work and TOFTT, I wish you the best of luck.[/QUOTE]Hi, I'm aware of points 1, 3 and 4, but not particularly perturbed or dissuaded as with a modicum of J-ability and a good attitude, I've been able to make my way around and access most of the stuff (p4p and not) I'd like to try, without too much trouble, here and there in J-nation.- and of course this forum gets some of the credit. In any case, re: point 2, from what I read in the above article and what I've found with a bit of independent research, the Tokura Kamiyamada Onsen area is an old, storied partytown and geisha haunt, with even modern-day drag shows (not my thing) to liven up the crowds after a day of onsens. So, without having direct prior experience of checking out that particular local scene, I could see it as a potentially memorable and interesting tourism activity, with assurance of onsen relaxation and some drinks on tap, and the other monger-play stuff just being gravy, if everything fell into place.On another, related front, if I got lucky with a fetching lady and got on the "all-night train" course should I make a Tokura Kamiyamada Onsen visit sometime this summer: I've never tried Viagra as that article alluded to (nor have I tried other such "pump-priming" drugs), but being tired from odd working hours could invite such experimentation (I would just want to bring along a couple of pills, not anywhere near a whole bottle).So, does anyone have advice on 1) Legitimate places to legally secure such drugs by legitimate physicians at legitimate medical clinics in Tokyo in ways that do not involve the Internet? (don't want to go to familiar doctors for a prescription, but would want to buy on an "a la carte" basis if possible; I'd also be happy to identify myself at the time of the transaction, but not bring my national health insurance card info into the equation).And though I've read about Viagra and its efficacy at its official website and elsewhere, 2) Does anyone have feedback based on personal experience to provide recommendations on the efficacy/dosage/duration of alternative drugs (like Cialis, Levitra, etc.)? Thanks!
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Chihiro @ D-Cup II
First time posting, but I've been reading for a while. Following Evan Stoner's report I also stopped in at D-cup and had the same girl. Concur with Evan, but I thought the girl was pretty friendly with a good attitude (she responded well to a little flattery), OK body and a so-so face. Completely average except for better than average tits and reminded me of one of the clerks at the office. I paid Y10 plus 1 as a 'members fee'.At first the clerk said they weren't taking gaijin at the moment, but I asked (in Japanese) if it was the store policy or if they didn't have any gaijin-friendly staff. He checked with the girl and she said OK.Showered together, then some mutual touching and fondling then on to CBJ. She worked it pretty hard and I managed to pop with it on time. Quick shower together and out the door. Pluses was the friendly, no BS service, easy to find, good location. Minus was no choice of girl, the place is a dump and the initial song and dance. Overall, not bad for what you get if you don't care about FS.[url]www.d-cup777.com[/url]
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Chancedh
Re: Machida, there is definitely action to be had at the expected Love Hotel spot near the bridge. There're a couple of nice ladies there but most definitely not Japanese. I enjoyed FS and GFE with a late twenties gal although she had a rather scary scar along her naval. Price was about 15k for an hour. She was fairly nice looking maybe 7/10 (apart from the scar) and basically let me do what I wanted. I've been there in the past when its raining and erm there're definitely discounts to be had, but imo service goes down by a lot.I went to Hoshi as was recommended by one chap on this site, the directions were perfect. When I arrived I was directed to Haruo (I believe her name is, although on the webpage it says Haru) she was much stockier than the picture depicts, not fat as such but definitely stockier. Looks wise I give her 5/10 but she was skilled so all in all I left fairly satisfied. I only did the 9k course which was mainly a massage followed by HJ, I asked for FS but def. no go. Actually I had wanted Koko or Riri but Hoshi was pretty busy so it was either Haruo or wait 2hours. I def. didn't want to make any waves so I just went with Haruo.I was wondering if anyone could give me directions to Chancedh, I get the impression it is in the Tokyo Tower area, can you give me a step by step for using their service. My japanese isn't so hot, I can basically ask for the girl by name, tell them my hotel, room #, but if it requires negotiation i'm going to be in some difficulty.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]This smells to me like a staged testimonial by an associate of the shop or the girl in order to drum up business: first post ever, over-the-top enthusiastic, and implication that this is a rebuttal of a previous poor review.Could be a legit report, but based on my experience the odds are against it. Reminded me too much of the Manami ringer a few months ago (Jimn1) who desperately tried to defend her only to disappear never to be heard from again -- he still has only two posts after claiming back in January: "I hope to contribute more reports in the future and maybe over time I will gain your trust" ... yeah, right. I guess we'll see whether Irishman98 turns out to be legit going forward.ES[/QUOTE]Evan, get a life. I haven't posted because I haven't been mongering. When I do, I will post. Or perhaps it would make you happier if I posted bogus reports to artificially boost up my reputation on this board?Jim
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Re: Chihiro @ D-Cup II
[QUOTE=Ben Linus]I paid Y10 plus 1 as a 'members fee'.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention the extra 1k. In my case it was a '写真指名料' or 'photo selection fee', i.e. because I didn't say I would take whatever girl was available next and instead chose from the (2) photos offered. I protested on the principle that he wasn't actually showing me the full range of available girls, and he dropped it. It sounds like you got the '入会金' or membership fee... YMMV obviously.I agree the overall experience wasn't terrible, although yeah the place is a bit of a dump... par for the course in Shimbashi. Given the lack of available options in the area I suppose one shouldn't complain too much.ES
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[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]I've never tried Viagra as that article alluded to (nor have I tried other such "pump-priming" drugs), but being tired from odd working hours could invite such experimentation (I would just want to bring along a couple of pills, not anywhere near a whole bottle).Thanks![/QUOTE]If you have never tried V and such, I would recommend you start at a very low dosage and, if necessary, work your way up. It all depends on age, individual physiology and such, but a friend of mine got drunk and thought it would be funny to pop a whole pill for the first time and ended up with a raging boner that was so hard it was painful. It wouldn't go away no matter what he did, and although the rest of us were joshing him, he was seriously considering going to the hospital. If you are young, in good physical shape or have a strong cardiovascular system, a very small amount will be more than enough.
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[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]Does anyone have feedback based on personal experience to provide recommendations on the efficacy/dosage/duration of alternative drugs (like Cialis, Levitra, etc.)? [/QUOTE]I'd have to agree with Xslikx - if you're just looking at them for recreational use start low. Once in a while I use 1/4 of a 100 mg pill, but most of the time 1/8 is more than enough. I only use it when I am mongering in SE Asia.It is a real drug with real side effects. I have to take them on an empty stomach and wait a couple of hours before I eat or it gives me an upset stomach. Depending on your complexion, it will make your face red. It is very distinctive to women who know about it. For me it fades after a couple of hours, but the male enhancement persists for 18 hours or more. Also, I use eye drops to remove the redness I experience.I got a handful of Levitra recently, but I haven't had occasion to use them.I've always gotten my pills off the internet. If you just want one or two for a test drive you should probably just chat up guys in bars. I'm sure a significant number of the lads in Motown are carrying on any given night and would be willing to part with one for a couple of drinks. If not the trannies could probably hook you up.SbySW
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Tokyo Stand pie me
Just came back from a session at TSPM. Thanx to ultra gaijin i managed to find this place. Short update on path:This is in Takanadobaba, Waseda exit. Going out you follow the main street to the left. You then have to pass two red lights, not including the one under the subway. The yellow sign mentioned is infact a drugstore, and they have a good selection of rubber. In the alley just before the sign is a white paper lantern. The entrace is just left to this.Comming up whit the elevator you will see a door to the right. Next to this door, theres another door. This is the place. This joint is really ultra-simple. I guess i could be vaccated in just a couple of hours if things goes out of hand. This looks just like an old office space, just curtains separates the diffrent areas. Shower takes place in what used to be a small kitchen. Really really simple. Staff is friendly, and i had no problems what so ever of being served. I guess this is one of the places that moves around these blocks.The place also had a survailence system, overlooking the street below, and that means it also overlooks anyone that comes to this place. A potential security risk.Anyway, i was greeted and led of to a small area where the action took place. There were no bed, just matrasses on the floor. I actually like that, the beds are no good anyway, and this way it gives you more space to change possisions. The service was ok, and provided for my needs. A question: Do you guys tip? This time the SP agreed to my fetish, and in that case i think it?s ok. Oppinions?Price is 8.500 for 60 min. SP name was Aki, from some shithole dump in china. Nice ass, but a little bit on the old side. She was a good faker; just as i thought she was in to it she said "times up". This was after 30 min.... Shit. A real turn of, but it made ma last longer...All in all an ok experience. Will go back. I guess it can be kind of messy if its busy, but at 1800 hrs on a tuesday, i was pretty much alone.[url]www.tokyo-s-p-m.com[/url],
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Too amusing to ignore
[QUOTE=South by SW 2]I'm sure a significant number of the lads in Motown are carrying on any given night and would be willing to part with one for a couple of drinks. If not the trannies could probably hook you up.[/QUOTE]I have no comment on this... I just kept reading it and re-reading it and couldn't help quoting it for emphasis. Creative advice!!ES
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[QUOTE=Hallo]I guess this is one of the yakusan runned places, that moves around these blocks. The Yaks are just intrerested in one thing: The money. They dont care if your gaijin or not, japanese speaker or not.[/QUOTE]What is your basis for this conjecture? I'll admit that I'm new to the scene in Tokyo, but in Osaka, at least, the Yaks are not known for running shit-hole Chinese places. In fact, they are generally not interested in dealing with anyone who isn't Japanese and have a documented relationship with the Uyoku. I'm going to guess that the reason the Chinese places are always closing shop and moving around is that they aren't really connected to anyone. The RLDs in Kansai are run by the Yaks (or at least they used to be, although they don't have complete control any more) and they are perfectly safe and remarkably stable.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]What is your basis for this conjecture? [/QUOTE]Well, not much. I have now edited my post. I really have no idea if this is a yak place or not. It was just an assumption.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]What is your basis for this conjecture? I'll admit that I'm new to the scene in Tokyo, but in Osaka, at least, the Yaks are not known for running shit-hole Chinese places. In fact, they are generally not interested in dealing with anyone who isn't Japanese and have a documented relationship with the Uyoku. I'm going to guess that the reason the Chinese places are always closing shop and moving around is that they aren't really connected to anyone. The RLDs in Kansai are run by the Yaks (or at least they used to be, although they don't have complete control any more) and they are perfectly safe and remarkably stable.[/QUOTE]I agree with Xslikx. Hallo got this upside down.
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[QUOTE=Hallo]Just came back from a session at TSPM. Thanx to ultra gaijin i managed to find this place.[url]www.tokyo-s-p-m.com[/url],[/QUOTE]I am just back to this site (and to mongering) after adjusting to a big economic hit in the crisis.So is this basically the same deal as the old Paprika? Could you recognize the girl from the photo? A nice thing about Paprika was that the photos, although of course selected in a flattering way, were basically true.
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[QUOTE=Nino]I am just back to this site (and to mongering) after adjusting to a big economic hit in the crisis.So is this basically the same deal as the old Paprika? Could you recognize the girl from the photo? A nice thing about Paprika was that the photos, although of course selected in a flattering way, were basically true.[/QUOTE]Actually if you read my post about the shop, they did a bait and switch with me. I chose a nice young lady from the photo offered, and was given an old, ugly thing when I reached "the room".I'm still missing the "21 Club" in Shibuya from the old days. Anything around like that anymore? 3 chicks BBBJ 45 min 6,000 yen
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Yes, i could recognize the SP, and this place has about the same basic services as Paprika. I find this place to be a little better. Not the true-shit-hole-place approach.
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[QUOTE=Hallo]Yes, i could recognize the SP, and this place has about the same basic services as Paprika. I find this place to be a little better. Not the true-shit-hole-place approach.[/QUOTE]Crikey! When I read that description I thought it was as bare-bones as humanly possible. Amazed to hear that Paprika was rougher!Mind you, I can't imagine anything worse than the shower at Yuri ...
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4 photos
Right. The shower at Yuri is nasty, to say the least. They have changed the floor mats, so its slightly better, but still quite ugly.Ok, the TSPM is simple and strange in a way, whit these curtains. But it is clean, and it has kind of a cozyness to it. Provided 3 pix as a sample.
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Aomori
I am here in Aomori and I have to say the eye candy here isn?t that great. I tried to find some free game but no luck. I took the advice of a fellow monger and purchase the Magazine "CALL" you can buy this magazine at your local Daily, Lawson?s and Swan shop. In the Magazine you will see many ladies for the following prefectures, Aomori, Hirosaki, and Hachinohe. The prices depend on the girl and the time you call the girls.Here is the tricky part, looking for a call girl or agency who speaks English. All of the agencies I was calling would only send a girl if you the individual speak Japanese. I called over 10 numbers and no luck until finally one person spoke English "Pink Lady" I requested for the girl name Maria. 3 hours later! Yes 3 hours the girl showed up.Maria came over and her body was pretty attractive but no breast. We tried to talk but that was a waste. So we took a shower and she started to give me a hand job. She drank some dark liquid and gave me some in order to rinse my mouth. You have to love the international sign language! LOL we went into the bedroom and I started to suck on her titties and started to finger her.. Once she started to moan I put my condom and started to slide in expecting for her to be tight.Now I am not huge but well indulge and I was surprise she was loose as a goose. I was on top for a good 15 minutes and switch positions to doggie style where she had her 1st orgasm. I figure it was time for me to really give it to her hard but once is started to really drill her she slowed me down which in turn cause me to lose my hard on.The sex was soo, soo, I knew I wasn?t going to cum from the sex so I ask her to give me a BJ. To my surprise she took me BBJ and I CIM, CIF. Overall 10/4[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Aomori & Model girls
One thing I have learned is that you can send emails by phone and receive a reply within 10/20 minutes.I tried to get a new girl from the "CALL" Magazine that really looked sexy but again most messages stated I need to speak Japanese.I figure ok, I met a Japanese guy who seemed really cool and I ask the guy for some help if he could call a girl for me and have her join me in my hotel. SUCCESS! I told him I call AOMORI & MODEL 090-4558-3939 Phone email: [email]gold-goldatdocomo. Ne. Jp[/email]And request Hirioka, Hiroka came to my hotel in about an hour I open the door and I think she was expecting a Japanese customer but I smile and I said come in. She hesistated for a moment and smile and walked in. She gave me a card to check for times and prices. I got the one hour special.I was impressing by the way she looked! She was spicy! Nice waist, C cups, juicy lips and great smile. Once the payment was done I couldn?t wait to get in the shower, same routine was Maria. We went to the bed and she was smiling and saying big, I smile and she started to give me a HB than she started to give me a BBJ and wow I was impress, her skills were on point! I think she wanted me to cum because once I started to grab the condoms she got nervous, I just kiss her neck and sucked her tities and put the condom on. She closed her legs but I just smile and kiss her body and got her to relax, and just tip her entrance, I soon found out why she didn?t want me inside her! SUPER TIGHT! It took a lot of discipline in my part not to ski right away. Once she got use to my size the girl took over by riding me, doggie style, reverse cow girl and once I was about to cum I stood up just to take my condom off and she got on her kneeds and started to wrok me. CIF. Overall Hiroka was 10/10[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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White women Hotel Esthe
Hi,I just found it over the net. I'm not really interested by ?white women hotel esthe? but you may:[url]http://www.dh-vipworld.com[/url]
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D-Cup
I've actually been refused a few times the few times I've tried at D-Cup. Sometimes they say there are no girls at the moment who will take foreigners, sometimes they say they just don't accept foreigners. Any tips on what to say or do to get accepted by the doorstaff would be great. I've also wondered about those other massage places on the same floor as D-Cups. Some of the girls are decently cute but the places unfortunately look legit to me. Anyone have any experience there? [QUOTE=Evan Stoner]I forgot to mention the extra 1k. In my case it was a '写真指名料' or 'photo selection fee', i.e. because I didn't say I would take whatever girl was available next and instead chose from the (2) photos offered. I protested on the principle that he wasn't actually showing me the full range of available girls, and he dropped it. It sounds like you got the '入会金' or membership fee... YMMV obviously.I agree the overall experience wasn't terrible, although yeah the place is a bit of a dump... par for the course in Shimbashi. Given the lack of available options in the area I suppose one shouldn't complain too much.ES[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Warmjan]I've actually been refused a few times the few times I've tried at D-Cup. Sometimes they say there are no girls at the moment who will take foreigners, sometimes they say they just don't accept foreigners. Any tips on what to say or do to get accepted by the doorstaff would be great. I've also wondered about those other massage places on the same floor as D-Cups. Some of the girls are decently cute but the places unfortunately look legit to me. Anyone have any experience there?[/QUOTE]I guess the usual applies. Be dressed neatly, be polite, don't be drunk and ask (politely) if he can check with the girl and tell him you've been there before.I wondered the same about the other places as well. Best thing to do is sit down, go over the courses and ask if they have 'special' services. There are so many there so there must be some competition that would work in favor.
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All of those places with the Chinese girls beckoning you in are legitimate shiatsu places.[QUOTE=Warmjan]I've actually been refused a few times the few times I've tried at D-Cup. Sometimes they say there are no girls at the moment who will take foreigners, sometimes they say they just don't accept foreigners. Any tips on what to say or do to get accepted by the doorstaff would be great. I've also wondered about those other massage places on the same floor as D-Cups. Some of the girls are decently cute but the places unfortunately look legit to me. Anyone have any experience there?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dynamics]Hi,I just found it over the net. I'm not really interested by ?white women hotel esthe? but you may:[url]http://www.dh-vipworld.com[/url][/QUOTE]What could be more exotic than banging rare white girls in Japan!..haha. I'll try it next week for novelty and post the results.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]I'm working on compiling a database of either confirmed gaijin-friendly or potentially gaijin-friendly places in Tokyo. If you are interested in receiving a copy, I'll send an abbreviated teaser to anyone who PMs me. If you want the whole thing, I'll be happy to barter for it. I will NOT respond to requests from the general list, so don't waste your time (or ours).[/QUOTE]Sounds harsh and enigmatic. "I'm" "ours". Are you an individual, or a spokesman for 'them'?Barter for what?Somehow, I think your post goes against the spirit of this forum - but then again, what do I know?
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Report deleted by Admin
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[QUOTE=Backtobasics]Sounds harsh and enigmatic. "I'm" "ours". Are you an individual, or a spokesman for 'them'?Barter for what?Somehow, I think your post goes against the spirit of this forum - but then again, what do I know?[/QUOTE]Here's my response:1. I'm the only one doing the work. I'd like to get something in return for what I'm doing. I don't need a lot, or to get paid, but I'm not giving this up for free.2. There are a lot of guys who sign up for free accounts and then send brain-dead emails like "I'm going to be in Narita tonight. Where do I go to do it with the twin sister high school girls from Austin Powers? Narita is close to Mt. Fuji, right?" If I post a compiled list of all the gaijin-friendly places, idiots like that will bollocks it up for the rest of us.3. The "us" refers to everyone who uses this list. I don't want idiots posting to the group and taking up valuable space just to say "Hey, you said PM, but I don't have an account, so could you contradict your own rule because it is inconvenient for me?" In my line of work, I get enough of that on a regular basis, I don't want any more.4. Right now there is no "secret group" putting this thing together, but I know there are guys who view this list who are have very useful info that they are keeping for themselves. I was hoping that this might encourage some of them to give up some of their better tips. I'm getting tired of reading about AM, Jan Jan, and UCLA Little Bear all the time. With the thousands of shops in Tokyo alone, I can't believe that there are only about 10 places that will take foreigners.5. I can't tell you what I would accept as a barter, because I don't know what you have to offer. It would have to be something that could be exchanged over the Internet (i.e. some type of information). I don't want money or goods. (If it was money, it wouldn't be barter, and goods I don't need and can't accept.)Personally, I think this is more in keeping with the spirit of the board than random e-mails from people who ask for the keys to the kingdom with their first posting. In an ideal world, there would be a rule that one's first post to the board MUST be a review which would contain directions, price, names, service description, and contact information. Experience has clearly shown that if you were to draw a circle representing the total number of men who are interested in P4P in Japan and then you drew a proportional circle of those who are willing and able to put in the time and effort necessary to identify gaijin-friendly locations and to make sure that these places don't ever have legitimate cause to want to exclude gaijin customers in the future, the first circle would be at least 50 times larger than the second. Anti-gaijin racism is a problem in Japan, but based on my 15+ years of experience with the country, in the overwhelming majority of cases, it's the fault of some stupid gaijin, and not the Japanese.
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Shizuka of ND
Had Shizuka from Nasty Dolls. She is of slender build, thin, flat belly, her face is all right but it's not a twenty something J-girl. Has round breasts, ample enough but it's not E. IMHO it's at least a size smaller. Full bodied large nipples. I booked 90 min course, which is 35,000 yen.She has been affiliated with ND for a while perhaps this is why her attitude is a bit lazy, and laid back. Shower was not very eventful, she mostly paid attention to herself and did not endear mr.pecker with a lot of attention. This is a minus.In the bedroom she did not show a lot of enthusiasm either, kissing was not really on the menu. It's not that she completely was not into it but she certainly was not very forthcoming, no tongue action, perhaps the spark was off, this was a turn off.She is completely shaved, access is clear and all the vitals seem to be in good order and clean. She was a bit passive with laying on her back, so I went to work on her Y. Slipped condom on and did a bit of riding. She is tight enough and the pump action was satisfactory. Soon enough we had an ignition and a controlled shaped explosion. Cleaned up, laid down for some cuddling. She did not seem in the mood to offer mr.right more affection for the second course even though we had about 35min left... I had 2 loads with the other ND girls who showed more interest in the business there were in.In conclusion, her English is all right, communication was not a problem. Her attitude need some CPR though. Nice body, ok face, crooked teeth (no worse then a norm here I suppose). I'll probably refrain from ordering her in the future. YMMV of course.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Ice Tea13]Soon enough we had an ignition and a controlled shaped explosion.[/QUOTE]That produced a chuckle.Well done sir.
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Wrong forum
[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]I'd like to get something in return for what I'm doing.[/QUOTE]I have no issue with what you are proposing to do, per se, although I doubt there will be much market for what you are offering.However, this discussion clearly belongs in the Classified Ads section with the other prostitutes. Please hawk your wares over there.ES
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Senior Member's List
[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Here's my response:1. I'm the only one doing the work. I'd like to get something in return for what I'm doing. I don't need a lot, or to get paid, but I'm not giving this up for free.2. There are a lot of guys who sign up for free accounts and then send brain-dead emails like "I'm going to be in Narita tonight. Where do I go to do it with the twin sister high school girls from Austin Powers? Narita is close to Mt. Fuji, right?" If I post a compiled list of all the gaijin-friendly places, idiots like that will bollocks it up for the rest of us.3. The "us" refers to everyone who uses this list. I don't want idiots posting to the group and taking up valuable space just to say "Hey, you said PM, but I don't have an account, so could you contradict your own rule because it is inconvenient for me?" In my line of work, I get enough of that on a regular basis, I don't want any more.4. Right now there is no "secret group" putting this thing together, but I know there are guys who view this list who are have very useful info that they are keeping for themselves. I was hoping that this might encourage some of them to give up some of their better tips. I'm getting tired of reading about AM, Jan Jan, and UCLA Little Bear all the time. With the thousands of shops in Tokyo alone, I can't believe that there are only about 10 places that will take foreigners.5. I can't tell you what I would accept as a barter, because I don't know what you have to offer. It would have to be something that could be exchanged over the Internet (i.e. some type of information). I don't want money or goods. (If it was money, it wouldn't be barter, and goods I don't need and can't accept.)Personally, I think this is more in keeping with the spirit of the board than random e-mails from people who ask for the keys to the kingdom with their first posting. In an ideal world, there would be a rule that one's first post to the board MUST be a review which would contain directions, price, names, service description, and contact information. Experience has clearly shown that if you were to draw a circle representing the total number of men who are interested in P4P in Japan and then you drew a proportional circle of those who are willing and able to put in the time and effort necessary to identify gaijin-friendly locations and to make sure that these places don't ever have legitimate cause to want to exclude gaijin customers in the future, the first circle would be at least 50 times larger than the second. Anti-gaijin racism is a problem in Japan, but based on my 15+ years of experience with the country, in the overwhelming majority of cases, it's the fault of some stupid gaijin, and not the Japanese.[/QUOTE]I know I send and receive PMs exchanging info that never gets posted. We do protect our favorite places from the new comers, since in Japan one screwup and the place closes its doors to all gaijin.Organizing a Senior's List would be helpful, although so many shops come and go it would be hard to keep updated. I doubt anyone would pay for it though. Exchange info, probably yes.
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[QUOTE=Lion]I know I send and receive PMs exchanging info that never gets posted. We do protect our favorite places from the new comers, since in Japan one screwup and the place closes its doors to all gaijin.Organizing a Senior's List would be helpful, although so many shops come and go it would be hard to keep updated. I doubt anyone would pay for it though. Exchange info, probably yes.[/QUOTE]This was exactly what I had in mind. And no, I don't think anyone will pay for it. When I said I wasn't going to give things up for free, I never meant that I would expect money from anyone. Information is valuable, both in the time it takes us to acquire it, and also in how much use it is to the recipient. I'm tired of the folks who want everything and don't want to give up anything for it, or make any effort to find things out on their own. I'm happy to share what I have put together to those who aren't going to go muck things up. I never asked for money. In fact, I tried to emphasize that I don't want any money for the list, only new information.Also, I have sent and received PMs as well, and I would *never* share any information that was given to me in a PM without the express permission of the person who sent it. All the stuff in my database is either open source or from the sweat of my brow.
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My experiences in Tokyo
Ok since I've been using info on this board and now about to move to Kyoto, maybe I can give some feedback.First thing I tried long ago when arriving in Tokyo was Shinjuku. Ended up in a hostess bar (the ones black guys try to drag you in). Definitly places to avoid: expensive, mostly foreign girls, and not a lot of action.Then tried Ikebukuro. Followed a few girls offering "massaji" and had mixed results. Usually this is just quick FS, nothing like a GFE. Also usually you have to pay twice, so total damage ends up being higher than first expected on the street. Actually found one that was real massage with happy ending from a nice girl. It was somewhere on the west exit side of the station, not far from the Sakura hotel for those who know it. Total damage was ichi man, so probably better go to Asian relax instead.Also tried UCLA that was listed here. Not that bad in the end, but I had the impression you get less time than you actually pay for. Also realised that trying to be nice and thanking the girl in the end gets you quite good service the next time if you get the same girl by some chance.Than wanted to try "New-york New-York" near Ueno. Took me quite some time to find it. There was a tout in front trying to convince me to go to is Korean place instead. Followed him. It was shower-massage-CBJ. The girl was definitly stunning (called "ama" in katakana I think). I was recommended that girl at the counter because she was said to be nice and young. I didn't expect much based on my previous experiences, but she indeed was. Problem for me was that I found the massage a bit hard. Was expecting something like relaxation massage, definitly wasn't. But maybe you can ask for something softer. Total damage around 15000 if I remember well.Then went quite often to the BJ bars in Sugamo. Usually quite cheap but girls are usually nice (not pretty though.) if you try to be nice and to speak to them in Japanese. I usually start from the part of the road which is the furthest from the station exit. First shop on the right (new PM in katakana) doesn't seem to have any problem with foreigners, you get CBJ and a glass of cold tea for 3000. Another shop in the middle of the street waved me in once. Don't remember the name. It was quite nice for the price, some breast sucking then BBBJ. Never went back though cause I'm a bit scared of BBBJ, already had problems because of this.A few times I could enter Japanese places (probably they hadn't made enough money for the day. And there were no Japanese guys around), but looks pretty difficult to tell in advance whether you'll be allowed or not. Once a guy in Shibuya waved me in when he told me "sorry, Japanes only" the day before.I've also read that it's easier to enter if you arrive with a Japanese friend, but never had courage to ask them to bring me to a soapland.Also have one question: from what I've read here Kilala in Shinjuku looks interesting, but what is it exactly? In one post I've read it's just like a false hostess bar when a girl arrives and offers you to go to a nearby love hotel, in a recent one you had to choose a girl behind a mirror and to discuss price with her. Are those the same place?[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Club Boo -- Yayoi (note: old school report)
I like reading this board, but recently haven't seen enough actual reports, so rather than complain, I'll post one of my older episodes.The service was Club Boo. Yes, I know, boooo! Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that they service gaijins and all, but damn, the staff really never changes, even over the course of 3-4 years. WTF? So anyway, I used them because I was new to Japan (about 3-4 years ago) and didn't have the level of Japanese that I have now, so it was my easy solution to what was turning into an epic dry spell for someone used to getting a decent amount of play back in the united states. I should also mention that this was my first ever P4P in Japan. I went to the website and really wasn't inspired by any of the girls. Really, it was almost depressing. The one standout that caught my eye was Yayoi. But she she looked almost too genki and cute, so I was sure I was gonna get the bait and switch. I called the mama-san and asked for Yayoi, and was told she'd be over in about 45 minutes. I waited near the station, damn near terrified that I was about to get nabbed by some set-up operation to deport horny gaijin, or at least be met with a funky old hag that looked nothing like the photo. Basically I nervously hovered back and forth around the place like I was engaging in some sort of major underworld deal or something. (Look, I have experience mongering in the states, but this was my first overseas P4P, I didn't know what to expect). To my surprise, the girl I met was actually a little better looking than the photo. Score! She spoke very little english and was a little shy, but generally cool. To be honest she looked a little spaced out, like maybe she had taken something before meeting me. Anyway... We get to my place and she immediately takes me to the shower. Remember, I had never done this in Japan, so I was at first a little put off ("what, do you think I'm a stinky gaijin that must be washed before touching!" :) ) but after we got in the shower, good lord was I happy. Of course "now" I know this is standard practice, but at the time I was pleasantly surprised. She explored my entire body during the shower, and I almost blew right there, but then suddenly the shower was over. We retired to the bed and then she started in with the BBBJ. AMAZING. I mean, really, the girl has (or had at that time) skills. Then, without any prompting from me at all she flips me up (and I'm a big guy) and starts in on my bottom with her tongue. This is not my normal thing, so I was about to protest, but then I looked at her (then) sweet face, and thought "hell, let's see how this feels...." It was, of course, amazing. After about 10-15 minutes of all that, she starts in with the sumata. Wow. Again, at that time I had done this before with regular/non-pro girls, but I didn't know sumata was a P4P "thing". So I'm going nuts while she's doing this, plus I'm kissing her (kinda regret that) and sucking her tits, and in the moment this girl looked stunning. So I broach the issue of penetration and she mumbles something about more money or something... Well, two things I should mention... First, I'm a stingy bastard. :) And second, I didn't know the way of P4P in Japan. So I didn't get upset in the least, but I told her I'd take a pass and had her finish me off with BBBJ and HJ. All in all I was satisfied. Afterwards we sat and talked and I found that I actually thought she was kind of cool. Nice girl. But as I was looking at her I noticed how skinny and tired she looked (I hadn't really noticed this before because I had my horny glasses on). With a good, post-pop look at her, plus the fact that she went to work on my bottom without me even asking, I kind of decided I never wanted to go near her again. Yes, I was a prude. I'm less of a prude now, but I can get conservative at times. I say this because the girl looked really tired and malnourished and I'm actually quite surprised to see her still listed on the CB site working. I would have figured she had collapsed by now. I really wonder what kind of service she's giving today and if she still looks anything like her picture. Despite the post-pop comments, I have to say it was a "great" experience. Service 8/10, Attitude 9/10, Body 7/10. Having said all that, I have not used CB since then because:1) at the time Yayoi looked like the best thing on the site (IMHO) and if she's been working all this time, looking like that she did at the time, I wouldn't expect to be happy with her performance/appearance now (although I admit I could be "totally" wrong about her). 2) for the expensive price, the girl selection is scant, plus I was asked for another 10,000 tip from the girl for full service, uh..., no thanks. 3) now that my japanese is serviceable, I can pretty much use any service that isn't anti-gaijin. the guys on this board are right, if you live in japan and intend to continue P4P, learning even basic japanese will open up an entirely new world for you, as well as save you a few bucks. Still, I'm glad CB and AM exist for those without japanese skills (hey, they need P4P too damnit). I will try to post other reports, but I'm pretty busy so usually only have time to read. Hopefully this report will inspire more guys to log some of their experiences.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Craigslist
I just found this post from craiglists Tokyo. I always take anything I find there with a grain of salt. Does anyone have any experience with any of the places listed or thoughts on the post. I have never heard of any of these places. I found it under the erotic services section:[quote][url]www.u-sakuranbo.com[/url] [url]www.busty-p.com[/url] [url]www.chiyoya.com[/url] [url]www.hureai.jp.com[/url] [url]www.u-peach.com[/url] [url]www.u-paradise.com[/url] Been here 5 years and these are some great places. Want some white girls? Here: [url]www.dh-vipworld.com/top.php[/url] And some Chinese places: [url]www.tokyo-s-p-m.com,www.tulip-k.net,http,www.pinky-t.com[/url], and [url]www.hichu200.com[/url] None of these places are more then 15,000 (many less than 10,000 with no "add on fees"), all the girls are hella sexy and you will have a great time. Now stop wasting your time with these over priced, mostly fake, sub par girls who post here! Gain from my experience.EDIT: To answer all who emailed me, yes ALL of the places I posted above are "gaijin friendly" however some of them will require some basic Japanese for appointment and/or directions to the location. Hope this helps.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Yes, Virginia, Tokyo Grand Love does accept ([at least] bilingual) foreigners. Listen up children and I will tell you a tale. [last night's Cowboys/Patriots game tape playing on the video, Styx on the audio.- yes I'm older than you.- and a cup of cold sake to hand] here we go....[/QUOTE]Great report! I've got one quick question I was wondering if you could answer. Do these types of services (guy who comes to your door, etc) ever ask to see identification? This feels kind of silly to ask, but I have no idea if everyone just gives a fake name as a matter of course, or if everyone just gives their real name without a care. I've mostly been using AM and they're not too inquisitive.
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Interesting that someone just posted exactly this sort of info. on gaijin-friendly outfits on Craig's List of all places. So someone is clearly giving it away! [QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]This was exactly what I had in mind. And no, I don't think anyone will pay for it. When I said I wasn't going to give things up for free, I never meant that I would expect money from anyone. Information is valuable, both in the time it takes us to acquire it, and also in how much use it is to the recipient. I'm tired of the folks who want everything and don't want to give up anything for it, or make any effort to find things out on their own. I'm happy to share what I have put together to those who aren't going to go muck things up. I never asked for money. In fact, I tried to emphasize that I don't want any money for the list, only new information.Also, I have sent and received PMs as well, and I would *never* share any information that was given to me in a PM without the express permission of the person who sent it. All the stuff in my database is either open source or from the sweat of my brow.[/QUOTE]
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Misaki @D-Cup
Tried D-cup again. The tout remembered me so no problems and no Y.1 fee. After flipping through the cards, the tout picked out the only gaijin-friendly girl available. Younger than the first one, slightly cute, nice tits and ass but a little bit flabby. Friendly, but clumsy service. Played with the boys to get me warmed up, she was going to go for BBBJ, but I asked for the cover. CBJ for a while and then off with the cover. She got down on her knees, had me sit on the edge of the mattress and gave me some titty action until I popped. Overall 7/10.
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Gaijin Friendly - FREE
Just PM -- I'm happy to share....besides every other OL and obasan standing on the platform on any 5th or 25th, sheesh .... If ANYONE hasn't noticed, japan is in a period of recession - this means that enjyo related activities are at an all time high.If you can't p4p now - better go to phils or los , maybe the only places left on earth that welcome those who fail even the most minimal perusal of 'the manual'
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[QUOTE=Warmjan]Interesting that someone just posted exactly this sort of info. on gaijin-friendly outfits on Craig's List of all places. So someone is clearly giving it away![/QUOTE]More of a CL clue/link please?
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[QUOTE=Warmjan]Interesting that someone just posted exactly this sort of info. on gaijin-friendly outfits on Craig's List of all places. So someone is clearly giving it away![/QUOTE]Never mind my last post; I see the following laundry list on CL of which you speak (did it originate here on this board by any chance? it seems to be replicated on various places on the Internets):[quote user="NampaLover"]Here you guys are:[url]www.u-sakuranbo.com[/url][url]www.busty-p.com[/url][url]www.chiyoya.com[/url][url]www.hureai.jp.com[/url][url]www.u-peach.com[/url][url]www.u-paradise.com[/url]All of these service foreigners, but you gotta speak some japanese. Good luck[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]Never mind my last post; I see the following laundry list on CL of which you speak (did it originate here on this board by any chance? it seems to be replicated on various places on the Internets):[/QUOTE]To me these look like Chinese places-and the photos all have different backgrounds which makes me think bait and switch or at least Photoshop. That said the price is right and you may find them to be winners.They seem to guarantee 2 rounds with most courses-but it isn't clear the exact service for those rounds.One of you should TOFTT and report back. I bet all the listings are for the same group.
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[QUOTE=Warmjan]Interesting that someone just posted exactly this sort of info. on gaijin-friendly outfits on Craig's List of all places. So someone is clearly giving it away![/QUOTE]Interesting. Not me, and not my list, but good information.
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What is this system at Bizakuri?
For those who like the weird stuff this Bizakuri would be worth trying.Can anyone explain what is meant by the pictures..it looks like one should go there to the place shown in the last picture and then call from a payphone.?[url]http://www.bizakuri.com/access.html[/url]
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Story DH
Hello all, I had a chance to try out one of the Korean DH places in Uguisudani the other day so here's my report. After the bad reports on chance DH, I had been put off but thought I'd give another similar place a try. Thanks to gifuboy for his tips.Around the exit of uguisudani there are a lot of hotels around. With lots of guys darting in and out of them, seemingly there for the same purpose. Chose a hotel at random and forked out 5000 for a room. I had decided to give "Story DH" a call. 03 5603 8117 and try them out. A lady answered and it was all done in Japanese of course. I can speak Japanese but even if your Japanese is not so hot, I think it wouldn't be too hard to navigate the ordering process. They asked for when you want to order ("kore kara". From now), what is your name, where are you (hotel name, room number). They were going to hang up when I remembered about asking for a girl with a good attitude. I said "send someone nice, pretty because I don't like cold people (who does? )". A few moments later, they called my hotel room to check I was there and told me "Betty" was on the way.Killed time checking out the extensive cable TV selection which consisted of 2 news channels, 2 porn channels and the very romantic Arnie film "Commando". Just as Arnie was about to impale that guy who played Mac in "Predator", there was a knock at the door, and in she came. Looks were not bad on first impression. Heels, cute dress, cute face, slim body and small but pert tits and best of all, that big dyed hostess hair. I later checked the website and there wasn't actually that much difference in appearance. Not much photoshopping anyway. Was going to do the 80 min course, but she asked me would I take the 100 min course. Seeing as she was pretty cute, I thought I'd splash out for 100 mins. Had a chat and a quick cigarette, then onto the shower. Had the traditional Japanese scrub down, with a hotel scrubbing pad that felt like a dish scourer. Not much fun below the foreskin, I can tell you! I have never got used to being washed by women in Japan. I always feel like I'm 6 years old again. Also had to swig the disinfectant mouthwash. Very business like, but I appreciate the precautions.In bed, she was eager to please and liked kissing and touching. Never bothered to go for the old BBBJ nor DATY, as I wanted to keep things safe and CBJ does nothing for me. After we were warmed up, she lubed up a bit and on she hopped. She seemed to be pretty vocal and got a kick out of it, and she was pretty tight down below. After round one, we had a chat and it seems to be true that these girls' Japanese isn't that great, but she was friendly enough. No awkward moments at all. After a nice massage, got things warmed up for round two, which was a pretty frantic, vocal session. No bad attitude here. Was finished with a good 20 mins left on the clock, and she seemed to want to have a cuddle, but I was done and needed to escape. After a quick shower, she called the company and they wanted to talk to me to ask me "How was the girl's attitude? " etc., to which I said "great". Got a members card as a reward and business was done.Overall it was pretty damn good and it's a shame that KDH gets a bad rep. I assume its just luck of the draw.Looks - 7.5/10Performance - 8/10Value 9/10Damage - 25000 + 5000 hotel = 30000Happy hunting![size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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The more outrageous shop
I found this shop specialized in deep-throat.[url]http://www.irama.jp/[/url]Who want to try? I think it's super-extra-mega gaijin-dame! But who knows? Maybe some forum member will be successfull!
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Other than payphone you are right it give very exact directions where to go and what to do then call from that spot so they can see you and they will give you instruction to walk into which ever building it is and use the entrance phone to be let in. This is not unusual for non-standard type shops in Japan they keep a very low profile [QUOTE=Puta Playa]For those who like the weird stuff this Bizakuri would be worth trying.Can anyone explain what is meant by the pictures..it looks like one should go there to the place shown in the last picture and then call from a payphone.?[url]http://www.bizakuri.com/access.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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Hi Ben,just trying to figure out why I get rejected there when others succeed (and it's not because I'm impolite or underdressed; on the contrary). Did you go during the day or in the evening? Any particular phrases I should be sure to toss out?Thanks,WJ[QUOTE=Ben Linus]Tried D-cup again. The tout remembered me so no problems and no Y.1 fee. After flipping through the cards, the tout picked out the only gaijin-friendly girl available. Younger than the first one, slightly cute, nice tits and ass but a little bit flabby. Friendly, but clumsy service. Played with the boys to get me warmed up, she was going to go for BBBJ, but I asked for the cover. CBJ for a while and then off with the cover. She got down on her knees, had me sit on the edge of the mattress and gave me some titty action until I popped. Overall 7/10.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Warmjan]Hi Ben,just trying to figure out why I get rejected there when others succeed (and it's not because I'm impolite or underdressed; on the contrary). Did you go during the day or in the evening? Any particular phrases I should be sure to toss out?Thanks,WJ[/QUOTE]I don't have any special tips other than mentioned below. I went on Monday night both times and it was empty. Maybe that's it?
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Checked out Bizuraki's Web page but couldn't make heads or tails of it. What exactly goes on there? [QUOTE=Puta Playa]For those who like the weird stuff this Bizakuri would be worth trying.Can anyone explain what is meant by the pictures..it looks like one should go there to the place shown in the last picture and then call from a payphone.?[url]http://www.bizakuri.com/access.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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Re: Query
[QUOTE=Jouzen]Great report! I've got one quick question I was wondering if you could answer. Do these types of services (guy who comes to your door, etc) ever ask to see identification? This feels kind of silly to ask, but I have no idea if everyone just gives a fake name as a matter of course, or if everyone just gives their real name without a care. I've mostly been using AM and they're not too inquisitive.[/QUOTE]To be honest, this is the only time (I think) in my experience where the guy came to the door like this. And in the end, I only used this place once. And, this shop re-branded! They are now known as Club Marvelous and their site is [url]http://www.c-marvelous.com/[/url]. Haven't tried it, but would assume it's the same deal. Anyway, I was not asked for ID the one time I used Tokyo Grand Love, and if I had been I would have refused and sent them on their way.YMMV.ES
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]To be honest, this is the only time (I think) in my experience where the guy came to the door like this. And in the end, I only used this place once. And, this shop re-branded! They are now known as Club Marvelous and their site is [url]http://www.c-marvelous.com/[/url]. Haven't tried it, but would assume it's the same deal. Anyway, I was not asked for ID the one time I used Tokyo Grand Love, and if I had been I would have refused and sent them on their way.YMMV.ES[/QUOTE]I used Tokyo Grand Love four times. The first time a guy came to my door and explainded the rules (no sex! ) and gave me a point card. Two of the four girls put out in a 60 minute session. 2 flat refused. Again, I think it is up to the girl, even though the shop frowns on it.I haven't tried the new shop since the re-brand, and I wonder if it is still Gaijin friendly. From my experience with Grand Love, the photos on the site were legit. The girls were all Japanese and had no English ability. Looking at the new site, it seems that the price has gone up as well. I'm a bit broke right now, but would love to read a report on the new shop.
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666 & Chinese
Hi guys, This is it. I am done.I tried it and the result is not exactly what I was expecting.Events: After doing my homework (reading the forum), I decided to spend two days on a return flight from overseas for a visit of Tokyo and its attractions. I was impressed by the guys with positive experiences in Japan. Living a long time in two southeast Asian countries where FS is widely and easily available, I was challenged by your reports.I have seen now the beautiful gardens and I am a real pro with using any kind of local mass transport system, but something is missing.Story: My budget: 15, 000. 20'000 Yen for FS.I decide to head for Grimpeur (666). Easy to find. 14.00 afternoon. One Japanese customer talking to the front man. I discretely wait without disturbing. Japanese customer leaves. Front man is asking what I want. I show him a translated sentence that I would like a slim, rather young, good looking Japanese lady. He asks if I speak Japanese. I answer "very little". With no warning he collects all the photos and tells me to leave. I was polite and said thank you in Japanese and left. I had a business like attire (end 30's) and was just friendly and polite with a few words of Japanese in my vocabulary.Anyone any idea what could have triggered this kind of reaction? I was obviously very frustrated.During my past years of travel I have been in many places, but never something like this has happened, as I always try to adapt the "local way of doing things in a polite way".Ok, I thought, let's give the place in Takadanobaba a try. Chinese FS, directions very well described in a previous report. 3rd floor, next to Ramen shop. Apt 302. 15.00. Friendly front man. Shows me pictures. I choose 2 Chinese cuties. He asks if I want two girls for 60 mins. I accept for 12, 000 Yen. Bargain. He leads me between the curtains. A Chinese girl comes 2/10. I think "oh no! ". Not the one from the picture. Ugly. Shower, small talk. She starts licking my body. Then condom on BJ and on top. I ask if the other one could come too. She says afterwards. I ask politely to change, as I was really turned off.So the other girl comes. Funny, but 3/10. Not the one from the pic either. Shower again. We f. K all positions. But I was bored to be honest. So I finish. She gave me a halfhearted massage and then start with some Japanese language lessons. Tea together. She starts hugging me and acts GFE-like. Then I leave, not without saying thank you. It was just not worth complaining.Conclusion: 666: Something very strange must have happened with a foreign customer in recent past.Chinese: Not worth the effort. Not worth the money.I guess I will try Kabukicho or AM, if ever.I hope some of you guys will have a chance to visit Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines. You will definitely feel very, very welcome.Perhaps someone could share his insight knowledge.Appreciated.Cheers![size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Gotanda pink salons
Wanted to let you guys know about two pink salons I've found in Gotanda that are gaijin-friendly. They're out the East exit, make a right by the Yoshinoya and into a warren of streets in the red-light district -- gets a bit difficult to describe the directions from there but this Web site should help:[url]http://www.emotion.vc[/url]There are two places right next to each other, the 2nd floor (Emotions) is a bit more upscale than the 1st floor (Dio) -- but that's not saying much. Had a rather fat and not very attractive girl at Dio, but she was sweet and gave great service. Had a pretty cute girl (Sayaka) at Emotions, but just a so-so BJ. Emotions charged me 7,000, but I later heard them charging a few Japanese guys 4,000 -- I thought about arguing but my Japanese isn't good enough, and in any case I was happy just to get in. I believe the 1st floor cost 6,000, but that was a few weeks ago so I wouldn't swear to it. Anyway, neither place is anything to write home about, but it's nice to know that there are at least some pink salons that will take gaijin.
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[quote=wind surfer]hi guys, this is it. i am done.666: something very strange must have happened with a foreign customer in recent past.chinese: not worth the effort. not worth the money.i guess i will try kabukicho or am, if ever.i hope some of you guys will have a chance to visit thailand, vietnam and the philippines. you will definitely feel very, very welcome.perhaps someone could share his insight knowledge.appreciated.cheers![/quote]i don't know what happened, or what the specifics of your case were beyond what you offered, but i will tell you what my guess is.put yourself in the shoes of the person running grimpeur. a foreigner shows up who doesn't speak enough japanese to conduct the transaction. while business is slow, you have some degree of strange either nationalistic or personal pride (there's a lot less separation between those two in japan than in some other countries). definitely you are not as poor as most people in se asia. you'd like to have some business, but you aren't so desperate that you are willing to risk a serious problem between a foreigner and one of your girls because the foreigner doesn't speak the local language, and the girl doesn't speak english. if you were in se asia, the money you make off of a farang might count for 10 or even 100 local punters. in japan, you would definitely make either the same or more money off of a japanese client, even in down economic times, than you would off of a gaijin. proportionally, the risk isn't worth the reward. and how you dress isn't really an indicator of anything other than personal hygine. some of the most bent folks i have known have been serious fashionistas. let's say you decide that you want to "stick it in her pooper" or something even more extreme, and the girl doesn't allow that. how could she let you know? and if something did happen because of a misunderstanding, there's a huge downside. in most countries in se asia, there is a huge sex industry dedicated to serving foreign tourists. in japan, they haven't needed it historically, so they are just starting to take tentative steps towards opening up now. with regards to the chinese issue, it is a combination of price-point, personal preference, and luck. i had a chinese service provider in osaka who was a serious hottie. but i happened to be in the place on a day when a lot of things were shut down and there were almost no customers because of some severe weather that was going through. had i gone on another day, i might have been stuck with a skank. of course, since i speak japanese, i probably could have negotiated a switch. japan is not a country in general that is friendly to foreigners. with the exception of a brief period from 1945 to about 1958, they haven't really needed to be either. sorry you had a bad experience. had i known and been able to, i would have liked to have helped you out.
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[QUOTE=Wind Surfer]Hi guys, This is it. I am done.I tried it and the result is not exactly what I was expecting.Events: After doing my homework (reading the forum), I decided to spend two days on a return flight from overseas for a visit of Tokyo and its attractions. I was impressed by the guys with positive experiences in Japan. Living a long time in two southeast Asian countries where FS is widely and easily available, I was challenged by your reports.I have seen now the beautiful gardens and I am a real pro with using any kind of local mass transport system, but something is missing.Story: My budget: 15, 000. 20'000 Yen for FS.I decide to head for Grimpeur (666). Easy to find. 14.00 afternoon. One Japanese customer talking to the front man. I discretely wait without disturbing. Japanese customer leaves. Front man is asking what I want. I show him a translated sentence that I would like a slim, rather young, good looking Japanese lady. He asks if I speak Japanese. I answer "very little". With no warning he collects all the photos and tells me to leave. I was polite and said thank you in Japanese and left. I had a business like attire (end 30's) and was just friendly and polite with a few words of Japanese in my vocabulary.Anyone any idea what could have triggered this kind of reaction? I was obviously very frustrated.During my past years of travel I have been in many places, but never something like this has happened, as I always try to adapt the "local way of doing things in a polite way".Ok, I thought, let's give the place in Takadanobaba a try. Chinese FS, directions very well described in a previous report. 3rd floor, next to Ramen shop. Apt 302. 15.00. Friendly front man. Shows me pictures. I choose 2 Chinese cuties. He asks if I want two girls for 60 mins. I accept for 12, 000 Yen. Bargain. He leads me between the curtains. A Chinese girl comes 2/10. I think "oh no! ". Not the one from the picture. Ugly. Shower, small talk. She starts licking my body. Then condom on BJ and on top. I ask if the other one could come too. She says afterwards. I ask politely to change, as I was really turned off.So the other girl comes. Funny, but 3/10. Not the one from the pic either. Shower again. We f. K all positions. But I was bored to be honest. So I finish. She gave me a halfhearted massage and then start with some Japanese language lessons. Tea together. She starts hugging me and acts GFE-like. Then I leave, not without saying thank you. It was just not worth complaining.Conclusion: 666: Something very strange must have happened with a foreign customer in recent past.Chinese: Not worth the effort. Not worth the money.I guess I will try Kabukicho or AM, if ever.I hope some of you guys will have a chance to visit Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines. You will definitely feel very, very welcome.Perhaps someone could share his insight knowledge.Appreciated.Cheers![size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I've had three experiences with Chinese places and two of them were not positive. I liked Yuri and the 8500 yen price can't be beat for full service. First time was great but second time sucked. Manami of Tokyo Melty Kiss was over the top awesome and well worth the 35,000 yen for two hours. If I had to make a recommendation for your next trip, schedule with Manami and save up the money because it will be worth it.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]I don't know what happened, or what the specifics of your case were beyond what you offered, but I will tell you what my guess is.......Sorry you had a bad experience. Had I known and been able to, I would have liked to have helped you out.[/QUOTE]Thanks man for the insight. I really appreciate it. I'm back on my home turf and things are looking much better.Might learn some basic phrases before my next visit.Cheers and thanks again!
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[QUOTE=Logan6663]I've had three experiences with Chinese places and two of them were not positive. I liked Yuri and the 8500 yen price can't be beat for full service. First time was great but second time sucked. Manami of Tokyo Melty Kiss was over the top awesome and well worth the 35,000 yen for two hours. If I had to make a recommendation for your next trip, schedule with Manami and save up the money because it will be worth it.[/QUOTE]Hey man, thank you for your recommendation. Is Manami Japanese or Chinese? Did you take her to a loho or your hotel?Cheers!
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Grimpeur
I've been to Grimpeur recently several times in the past month or so, and not had any problems. I do speak great Japanese though--that is probably a big sticking point.I noticed that several people mentioned getting FS here--I've not yet to get it though I've asked (I usually ask at every place, not just this one).I've been with Risa, who gave excellent service, just not FSKei, who was so-so, nice body, decent serviceSerika--very tall girl if you're into that. Definitely knows what she's doing.All the girls gave excellent BBBJ. If anyone knows of any hits here, please feel free to PM me.
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[QUOTE=Wind Surfer]Hey man, thank you for your recommendation. Is Manami Japanese or Chinese? Did you take her to a loho or your hotel?Cheers![/QUOTE]Manami is all Japanese (although some have alleged that she looks like a famous Korean actress).
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The list
Well, I've come to the realization that I've approached this in the wrong way. So here are the websites of everything on my list that I'm allowed to share. Please don't bollocks it up for everyone! And write back with your experiences. Enjoy![url]http://www.emotion.vc/framepage5.html[/url][url]http://uclabear.kir.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kiraracafe.com/newkirara/[/url][url]http://www.milkybaby.jp/index.html[/url][url]http://www.star-es.com/map.html[/url][url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php[/url][url]http://www.c-marvelous.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.d-cup777.com/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.patto.jp/playboy/top.php[/url][url]http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/top.php?page=s[/url][url]http://www.kiraracafe.com/shin/[/url][url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.tokyo-s-p-m.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.busty-p.com/menu.htm[/url][url]http://u-sakuranbo.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.chiyoya.com[/url][url]http://www.hureai.jp/page008.html[/url][url]http://www.u-peach.com/menu.htm[/url][url]http://u-paradise.com/main.htm[/url][url]http://www.hono-bono.com/ladies/en.html[/url][url]http://www.chancedh.com/main.html[/url][url]http://www.y-donki.com/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.yoshiwara-otome.com/top.html[/url][url]http://oushitu.ok-g.net/[/url][url]http://www.ascot-c.com/service.html[/url][url]http://www.pretty-girl.net/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.club-amour.jp/index_f.html[/url][url]http://www.bk-max.com/bk/index1.php[/url][url]http://www.c-baron.com/home/baron/index.php[/url][url]http://www.sopcol.jp/[/url][url]http://www.club-hana.net/[/url][url]http://www.y-venus.com/[/url][url]http://pepper-mint.jp/[/url][url]http://jyotei.ok-g.net/[/url][url]http://www.club-gal.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kinpei.net/[/url][url]http://www.nk-soaptalent.com/[/url][url]http://www.chris-usa.jp/map.htm[/url][url]http://www.pastel-punch.jp/top.html[/url][url]http://www.body-talk.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kabuki-cho.co.jp/[/url][url]http://www.love-news.jp/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Wind Surfer]Hey man, thank you for your recommendation. Is Manami Japanese or Chinese? Did you take her to a loho or your hotel?Cheers![/QUOTE]Manami is Japanese and she came to my hotel. She was well dressed, sexy but nicely sophisticated.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Well, I've come to the realization that I've approached this in the wrong way. So here are the websites of everything on my list that I'm allowed to share. Please don't bollocks it up for everyone! And write back with your experiences. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Gaijin Otoko,Thank you very much for compiling the list and sharing it here with us. I'm sure a lot of us appreciate your work and "research" through the years.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Well, I've come to the realization that I've approached this in the wrong way. So here are the websites of everything on my list that I'm allowed to share. Please don't bollocks it up for everyone! And write back with your experiences. Enjoy![/QUOTE]I'll add one to that: [url]http://www.a-side.com/chouraku/index2.htm[/url] . No Japanese required.
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the fashion healths around Grimpeur (666)
Some useful explanation:I just went to one of the fashion healths around Grimpeur, in the alley on Dogenzaka (love hotel hill), and while I was walking to the love hotel, accompanied by one of the male staff, I started a casual conversation. I mentioned that it seemed like gaijins (gaikokujins) had a hard time finding service around there. He replied that it depends on the girls, some of them won't take foreigners (he implied that their gear is too big). He then added that his shop definitely would welcome foreigners, as long as they spoke Japanese. That was a definite requirement, because the girls had to be able to communicate to the customer what they would and would not do. So I hope that clears up some of the mystery; Japanese language skills are needed, but the fashion healths in Dogenzaka are definitely gaikokujin-friendly.
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Many thanks Gaijin, that's a true public service! [QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Well, I've come to the realization that I've approached this in the wrong way. So here are the websites of everything on my list that I'm allowed to share. Please don't bollocks it up for everyone! And write back with your experiences. Enjoy![url]http://www.emotion.vc/framepage5.html[/url][url]http://uclabear.kir.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kiraracafe.com/newkirara/[/url][url]http://www.milkybaby.jp/index.html[/url][url]http://www.star-es.com/map.html[/url][url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php[/url][url]http://www.c-marvelous.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.d-cup777.com/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.patto.jp/playboy/top.php[/url][url]http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/top.php?page=s[/url][url]http://www.kiraracafe.com/shin/[/url][url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.tokyo-s-p-m.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.busty-p.com/menu.htm[/url][url]http://u-sakuranbo.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.chiyoya.com[/url][url]http://www.hureai.jp/page008.html[/url][url]http://www.u-peach.com/menu.htm[/url][url]http://u-paradise.com/main.htm[/url][url]http://www.hono-bono.com/ladies/en.html[/url][url]http://www.chancedh.com/main.html[/url][url]http://www.y-donki.com/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.yoshiwara-otome.com/top.html[/url][url]http://oushitu.ok-g.net/[/url][url]http://www.ascot-c.com/service.html[/url][url]http://www.pretty-girl.net/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.club-amour.jp/index_f.html[/url][url]http://www.bk-max.com/bk/index1.php[/url][url]http://www.c-baron.com/home/baron/index.php[/url][url]http://www.sopcol.jp/[/url][url]http://www.club-hana.net/[/url][url]http://www.y-venus.com/[/url][url]http://pepper-mint.jp/[/url][url]http://jyotei.ok-g.net/[/url][url]http://www.club-gal.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kinpei.net/[/url][url]http://www.nk-soaptalent.com/[/url][url]http://www.chris-usa.jp/map.htm[/url][url]http://www.pastel-punch.jp/top.html[/url][url]http://www.body-talk.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kabuki-cho.co.jp/[/url][url]http://www.love-news.jp/[/url][/QUOTE]
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Quick question, A friend of mine went to check out some of the soap etc shops and found that a some 50% of girls were non-native, chinese or thai. anyone have encountered this? Kind of don't want to pick a girl only to find that shes from China.[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Well, I've come to the realization that I've approached this in the wrong way. So here are the websites of everything on my list that I'm allowed to share. Please don't bollocks it up for everyone! And write back with your experiences. Enjoy![url]http://www.emotion.vc/framepage5.html[/url][url]http://uclabear.kir.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kiraracafe.com/newkirara/[/url][url]http://www.milkybaby.jp/index.html[/url][url]http://www.star-es.com/map.html[/url][url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php[/url][url]http://www.c-marvelous.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.d-cup777.com/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.patto.jp/playboy/top.php[/url][url]http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/top.php?page=s[/url][url]http://www.kiraracafe.com/shin/[/url][url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/trinity/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.tokyo-s-p-m.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.busty-p.com/menu.htm[/url][url]http://u-sakuranbo.com/main.php[/url][url]http://www.chiyoya.com[/url][url]http://www.hureai.jp/page008.html[/url][url]http://www.u-peach.com/menu.htm[/url][url]http://u-paradise.com/main.htm[/url][url]http://www.hono-bono.com/ladies/en.html[/url][url]http://www.chancedh.com/main.html[/url][url]http://www.y-donki.com/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.yoshiwara-otome.com/top.html[/url][url]http://oushitu.ok-g.net/[/url][url]http://www.ascot-c.com/service.html[/url][url]http://www.pretty-girl.net/index2.html[/url][url]http://www.club-amour.jp/index_f.html[/url][url]http://www.bk-max.com/bk/index1.php[/url][url]http://www.c-baron.com/home/baron/index.php[/url][url]http://www.sopcol.jp/[/url][url]http://www.club-hana.net/[/url][url]http://www.y-venus.com/[/url][url]http://pepper-mint.jp/[/url][url]http://jyotei.ok-g.net/[/url][url]http://www.club-gal.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kinpei.net/[/url][url]http://www.nk-soaptalent.com/[/url][url]http://www.chris-usa.jp/map.htm[/url][url]http://www.pastel-punch.jp/top.html[/url][url]http://www.body-talk.jp/[/url][url]http://www.kabuki-cho.co.jp/[/url][url]http://www.love-news.jp/[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Manatsu]Quick question, A friend of mine went to check out some of the soap etc shops and found that a some 50% of girls were non-native, chinese or thai. anyone have encountered this? Kind of don't want to pick a girl only to find that shes from China.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm surprised that the numbers were only 50%. For shops that are gaijin-friendly, it seems like there are a higher percentage of shops staffed by "gaijin" that will service other "gaijin." My advice is do your research before you go if it matters to you. Or you can stick with AM, CB and TMK. They are all Japanese (with only one or two exceptions at AM), and they will tell you if your girl is not. A friend of mine who wanted to "complete his collection of Asian women" used AM and was very satisfied. Also, be prepared for severe sticker shock, if you are used to Chinese prices.
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Does anyone know any places in Nakano? I am close to Nogata station.Also, anybody know any very cheap places that will travel to my hotel/apartment? I am only here for a short time and terrible at navigating tokyo alone. Also I only speak limited Japanese.Thanks in advance!
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I'm going to Japan for the first time in September and was thinking of booking a 3some with Nasty Dolls. Asian Mystique seems kind of expensive? Apparently Akari, Junko, Sakura, and Maria are available for it.Any tips for a first-timer? Is Club Boo worth a look, and what's the difference between their trial and premium services? Thanks in advance.
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First time in Tokyo?
Hey, I'm going to Tokyo for the first time in September.I wanted to try a 3some, on a budget. Any ideas or advice would be appreciated a lot.An outcall thing would be the best, I think.Does anyone have any experience with Akari, Junko, Sakura or Maria from Nasty Dolls? They seem to be the cheapest.
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Tsubaki of ND
A little something for the holidays, enjoy the info and use appropriately!Reporting on Tsubaki of Nasty Dolls. She is short with longish hair. Her face is nice and she presents herself in a very quiet and submissive mannor. She came nicely dressed in a black dress, very pretty and sexy underwear, black stockings with a garter belt, pretty impressive and not your average AM girl.Shower was very exciting, she used her soapy hands to clean mr.LongJohn in a very soft and tender way. Cupping and nesting little bird in preparation for the fliy time. Full of attention, made sure I am clean, happy and very much looking forward to the action in bed. Her English is all right, she has traveled around in the world - lots of countries (or so she said). Great attitude so far, and this is a major plus in my book. Part II.She was moaning softly while I was playing with her soft and very sensitive nipples. Her breasts are small, I'd say it's a C size. Skin is soft and sensitive, great neck to kiss. She likes to play very softly and very tender, nice full lips. She is a little chubby but makes up in attitude and I enjoyed her a lot. Soon the raincoat was on and she went to work on mr.junior. Good technique, I like it soft, slow, tender and with a lot of attention to teasing. Soon enough the first salvo has been fired and the fireworks commenced. Cleaned up, and she came along side for a slow caressing session. She did it just right with some slow kissing to prompt a second coming from mr.Johnson. Argualbly not everybody likes it slow and tender but her talent is definitely in being non-aggressive and very light and soft in bed, she likes to tease.She is shaven, but with a little island of black hair on top. Pretty sexy if you ask me, I enjoyed playing down there. She is pretty tight and juicy. Very clean package.I had her for 90min, which came to be 39,000 (35,000 plus 4,000 for the taxi - it was late).[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Puta Playa Sugamo Report
This being my first time in Tokyo, and the first part of a trip that will bring me back here, I focused mainly on sightseeing (one day open metro pass Y600 is awesome!). I did manage to check out the non-pro scene at Gaspanic Shibuya, got blown at a couple places in Sugamo, and did a walkthrough of Kabuchiko to gauge the gaijin friendliness. Here are the results:Accomodations: I'm staying in Shibuya. Great place for scoping out the best J-girl fashionistas that Japan has to offer. Love all the shorty shorts and spiked heels. I've noticed that every one of them has some bruise on their legs somewhere....maybe from falling down while running in heels..or maybe the bruises come from rough treatment by you Nampa guys? Gaspanic Shibuya, last night, Saturday 9:30 PM:The place was packed, literally, making pickup very difficult. There were a lot of Japanese girls there and a surprising number of Japanese men, considering this place is supposed to be a gaijin bar. I had some chemistry with a passable Japanese girl (7/10), but she was with a friend so I sensed the cockblock and let her go. Most of the girls were there with a friend, for a short period of time, dancing and just doing the pub crawl. Next time, I'll go late at night and see what I can drag back to the hotel. Beer is Y900, so I recommend that you go there late to minimize your investment. I can say it was worth about that much to hear Japanese hip hop types yelling "Represent ATL!" during 'I'm about to act a foo', yeh'. ATL folks, y'all'd love it. ;)Sugamo, Today, Sunday, 3 PM:Rode the subway to Sugamo and discovered that Tokyo has 2 subway lines..if you buy a one Tokyo Metro open pass at Narita, it doesn't work up there. It'll cost you Y170 each way, but no problem, it's worth the small change. I'm posting a pic of BJ alley in the pics thread, to help those who aren't sure where to go. The first tout that stopped me was the Jan Jan tout, although I am still Level 1 Rosetta Stone and can't read the sign...so I didn't know this was Jan Jan. We tried to communicate a bit and he was suggesting that only 1 girl of the, maybe 10, girls is available and she was priced higher at Y6k. I thought 'bullshit, I'm being played, the posted price is Y3k', so I gave him a bow and arigatou and walked down the block...I remember reading that the last place on the block, opposite Jan Jan, is full service for 3K. The place is called 'PM' and has a pink sign. Thinking I was getting a deal, I picked a (photoshopped) girl from the menu and went in, only to find that there is no FS and not even a BBBJ. The setup is like a bar, with booths. You sit down and the girl comes to you, wipes you with cold towels, strips down to panties and just blows you right there in plain sight of everyone who walks in. She was probably about 28, tight body and skinny, but with the face and tits giving her age away. She sucked for about 20 minutes before giving up and walking away..this place was a big disappointment and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Keep in mind, I was ready to shoot just thinking about BJ before I got there, and she still couldn't make it happen. I guess I could have cum if I had really tried, but I had quite the impressive load saved and it's quite important to me that they actually get the sperm and taste it, so I already decided midsession to continue at another establishment.So then I left PM, still having not cum, but very primed. I decided to go back to the other place (Jan Jan, but I didn't realize it) and offer the tout 3K, calling his bluff on the 6K 'only-girl'. He still insisted that only the 1 girl was available, and that she was 6k, so I pulled out 3k and he ushered me upstairs to the mamasan who took the money, seated me, and brought a cup of iced tea. I'm not sure what this 6K trick was about. Anyway, my girl showed up with hot towels. She was typical J-girl, skinny, tight body, except she had amazing tits. I'd give her a 7.5 for looks and a 9 for body. I really didn't even know J-girls could have such nice firm natural big tits. I'd say she was maybe a 30 c, smooth sacks, no detectable stretch marks..I really appreciate the smooth feel! So my Jan Jan girl, whose name I couldn't get, proceeded to give me the Jan Jan treatment which has been described before on this thread...hot towels, strip, ball play, and a deep BBBJ. I was looking forward to this because I had a huge load stored, and a score to keep. I make it a point to be sucked and/or fucked by at least 2 local girls in every city I visit, every time I visit, so I was ready! Her BJ was unique, not excellent, but unique. It felt like she was holding her tongue rigid, and milking precum into the back of her throat. When she applied pressure on the pubic bone with one hand and to the balls with the other, she really made it evident that she's a BBBJ scholar. I lasted maybe 10 minutes to make sure that she had cleaned me out, then let her have the load. She went down for it all, to the last drop, and then spat it into her towel and walked away. The spitting is a bit offensive, but I've learned to accept this as a standard J-girl practice.So that was my Sugamo experience...the good, the bad, fortunately not the ugly that some others have reported. All said, I think it was a good deal at Y3000, even for the CBJ that didn't make me cum. How many 1st world nations offer BJ of any kind for 30 USD? Probably just Japan. Jan Jan is exceptional, a jewel in Japan for those of us who believe in blowing cum, not bagging it.Jan Jan was awesome service at an excellent price. I've read that some mongers have reservations about sticking their wands into mouths that see maybe 20 creams per day. Have no fear. I'd invite you to visit the Rio thread, where we're laying pipe in all 3 holes of Brasileiras who are highly, highly active pros who routinely practice BBBJ and even BBAF in their off time. I've seen no reports of disease on the Rio thread, except for a throat gon that could have been prevented by OTC local antibiotics, or simply by resisting DATY. I'd say a girl that takes 100 J-loads per day is safer than the girl who takes 1 Brasilero load per day, yet we have no problems...so Jan Jan at will.Kabuchiko, 9 pm today, a Sunday right before a holiday:Lastly, I checked out Kabuchiko to see what all the press+olympics fuss is about. I did a walk through and was approached by 2 African touts who insisted that they had a strip show and free drinks that I 'had to come check out.' I told them that I already spent my load on the next street over and was just looking at food at this point. I was also approached twice by a well-dressed young Japanese tout who spoke good English and made a point of offering me 'real Japanese girls' that were in his brochure, so maybe we are in a buyers market here, if they are actually admitting that we've been denied J-girls in the pass and they're offering them now. Quite honestly, just coming back from Rio, I find it culture shock to be in an environment where everything isn't for sale! Rio girls would fuck anything with a heartbeat for 200 USD, and give it a real GFE cause that's the way they do things. I have a hard time tolerating the arrogance in Japanese P4P, as if they think some sort of religiosity or honor remains when they are timesharing their holes to strangers of any nationality...it's both annoying and humorous.So ends the first leg of my trip...now I'm off to Osaka and hopefully to FS at Tobita, full service when I don't even ask for it...I grew to love Tobita on my last trip. I'll be back to Tokyo later and maybe hit Milky Baby for some kinks, maybe do the Y5K large intestine inflation job for some nice J-girl, then and give my best-luck smiling/bowing gaijin try at Supergirls and some of the other shops, IF I can resist spending myself at Jan Jan. I'll report on these later.PP[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Various updates and such
The price of Janjan's has gone up to 4,000. The booths in Kawazaki are closed. I asked a nearby tout and he said the cops had raided. I was in Shinbashi the other day. Supergirls and the other shops in that area are still dame. I went by D-cup. The guy looked at the board for to see who was working and then told me dame. I asked him if it was just because there was no gaijin-ok girl in and he confirmed that this was the case.
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Hono-Bono-Suika
I tried Hono-Bono for the first time last night. Working with the scheduler by phone was OK, but I recommend that you speak Japanese for best results. He was a nice enough guy and I think he can understand some English. My phone Japanese is not bad but something got lost in translation. He asked me for my phone number and mentioned "call back", so I thought he would call me back to confirm. But he meant for me to call him back, which resulted in the girl arriving later than originally scheduled. I thought something had gone wrong, but there was just a slight mis-understanding.Suika has been described as chubby. She has probably put on a good deal of weight since then, so that description should be updated to hefty. She has a prominently rotund beer-belly. She looks chubby in her web photo, but something else will arrive with a much rounder face. In any event her body is not too bad because it still has a decent shape and her ample tits are fun to play with. But her size made manipulating her torso difficult.Her photo also suggested to me a gregarious, compliant and submissive girl. I found her to be more bitchy and dominating. She immediately took charge of the situation upon arrival so I just went along for the ride. She performed the standard routine of shower, BBBJ and FS. But she is lazy and a very lazy fuck, just laying there like a big sack of potatoes. She does respond to the finger and tongue, but doesn't seem to like having her tits sucked. She also got into being banged. I basically just did my thing and finished. We parted company after only 45 minutes which didn't really disappoint me. I didn't even attempt any GF experience even though we got along well enough.I would give her body a rating of 6 on a scale of 10 with an additional point for her tits and good tasting pussy. With the overall experience of a 5. The price was not bad for 22,000 with delivery to an Ikebukuro business hotel. I will repeat with Hono-Bono but not with Suika.
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[QUOTE=Manatsu]Quick question, A friend of mine went to check out some of the soap etc shops and found that a some 50% of girls were non-native, chinese or thai. anyone have encountered this? Kind of don't want to pick a girl only to find that shes from China.[/QUOTE]Yes, but...what if you would **want** a Thai for p4p (i.e. along the lines of fashion health, delivery health or more)? Where would those shops be? I'm not talking about your standard (or even rub-and-tug) Thai massage joint or drinking/hostess bar, nor any kind of similar Chinese-staffed establishment...I'm talking Thai!
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[QUOTE=Manatsu]Quick question, A friend of mine went to check out some of the soap etc shops and found that a some 50% of girls were non-native, chinese or thai. anyone have encountered this? Kind of don't want to pick a girl only to find that shes from China.[/QUOTE]Stand-up Thai p4p setup drinking establishment would be good too.
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Mata Sumata Grimpeur
I had another great experience at Grimpeur yesterday.While puttering around Shibuya, I decided to check things out and lo and behold, Kasumi was one of the pick-up girls of the day, meaning she was 3000 yen off for that day.I called up and made a reservation at 17:00, then showed up at the appropriate time. Set a schedule for 60 minutes, paid my 16,000 yen, and went off to the hotel. When she arrived, she looked different from the picture(her face was blurred out), but in a very good way. She has a very striking resemblance to talent Suzanne--face and voice. It was kind of a turn-on. Kasumi was extremely polite, just a real treat. She's like, "I have a tatoo, is it OK?" I had no problem with it, so she got right down to stripping me bare.I helped her take her clothes off too, and her body was just as fabulous. We hopped in the shower where I got the good rinse off and scrub. Then she asked me where it feels good, and I said, "Well, you know where." So then she proceeded to make me feel good, giving me a great BBJ right in the shower. This has got to be the start of something good.We finally get out of the shower and get to the bed. She proceeds to work me all over, licking me everywhere, including my special place, going pretty deep on me. After about 10 minutes, she asked if my other 'special place' was within limits. I said no problem, and she then went to town on my anus from behind, stroking my cock at the same time. This was pretty incredible, normally limited to soap service or other special places, and I was pretty impressed.I decided to service her myself, stroking her to climax with my patented double finger jigger. She loved every minute of it, sucking on me at the same time until the very end. Finally, after recovering from her orgasm, she got on top of me with a unique sumata style that was stunning. After that we both passed out for the remaining time until heading back to the shower.Now, on her profile it says that AF is OK, and going in there, I was going to ask, but she was sooo good at what she was doing, I figured why even ruin a good thing, and to be honest I was extremely satisfied.One of the best services I've ever had there, and definitely will repeat.Looks 9Attitude 10Service 9.5[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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BJ alley in Sagamo.
I went to BJ alley in Sagamo the other day. I tried to find the legendary Janjan but all the signs are in Japanese. How can you tell which one is it? Anyways, I looked at a few sign boards and decided to go to the one that was the second one on the right if you are heading from the station. I headed downstairs and gave the lady 3K. She lead me to a booth and brought over some iced tea. I've been in some pretty seedy places. This was not. I've been in night clubs that have been worse. The booth in front of me was occupied with some guy and a fake short haired blond. I settled in for a long wait since some of you posted you had to wait for 30 mins. The wait was more like 30 seconds. I also got a short haired fake blond. She was thin and had a so so face. It's really dark so that doesn't matter that much. Her body was firm and her skin smooth. She had some cold towels and handed me one. I wiped my face which made her laugh. She then wiped me down below since I obviously had no idea what to do with them. She kept sticking her nipples on my mouth so I sucked on them for a while and then she went at it. Unlike most other countries, no complaints, no pauses. She was like a machine and I finished in her mouth. She then handed me a fresh wet towel, bowed and went off to spit I guess. Not bad for $33. I didn't utter a word during the whole thing. Not to the tout, not to the madam and not to the girl. I just nodded or laughed when it seemed appropriate.How does one find Janjan?
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Question.
What was that site linked to with a hospital-like room with people in horse masks? Thanks in advance!
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Not Jan Jan?
[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Sugamo, Today, Sunday, 3 PM:Rode the subway to Sugamo and discovered that Tokyo has 2 subway lines..if you buy a one Tokyo Metro open pass at Narita, it doesn't work up there. It'll cost you Y170 each way, but no problem, it's worth the small change. I'm posting a pic of BJ alley in the pics thread, to help those who aren't sure where to go. The first tout that stopped me was the Jan Jan tout, although I am still Level 1 Rosetta Stone and can't read the sign...so I didn't know this was Jan Jan. We tried to communicate a bit and he was suggesting that only 1 girl of the, maybe 10, girls is available and she was priced higher at Y6k. I thought 'bullshit, I'm being played, the posted price is Y3k', so I gave him a bow and arigatou and walked down the block...I remember reading that the last place on the block, opposite Jan Jan, is full service for 3K. The place is called 'PM' and has a pink sign. Thinking I was getting a deal, I picked a (photoshopped) girl from the menu and went in, only to find that there is no FS and not even a BBBJ. The setup is like a bar, with booths. You sit down and the girl comes to you, wipes you with cold towels, strips down to panties and just blows you right there in plain sight of everyone who walks in. She was probably about 28, tight body and skinny, but with the face and tits giving her age away. She sucked for about 20 minutes before giving up and walking away..this place was a big disappointment and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Keep in mind, I was ready to shoot just thinking about BJ before I got there, and she still couldn't make it happen. I guess I could have cum if I had really tried, but I had quite the impressive load saved and it's quite important to me that they actually get the sperm and taste it, so I already decided midsession to continue at another establishment.So then I left PM, still having not cum, but very primed. I decided to go back to the other place (Jan Jan, but I didn't realize it) and offer the tout 3K, calling his bluff on the 6K 'only-girl'. He still insisted that only the 1 girl was available, and that she was 6k, so I pulled out 3k and he ushered me upstairs to the mamasan who took the money, seated me, and brought a cup of iced tea. I'm not sure what this 6K trick was about. Anyway, my girl showed up with hot towels. She was typical J-girl, skinny, tight body, except she had amazing tits. I'd give her a 7.5 for looks and a 9 for body. I really didn't even know J-girls could have such nice firm natural big tits. I'd say she was maybe a 30 c, smooth sacks, no detectable stretch marks..I really appreciate the smooth feel! So my Jan Jan girl...[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Puta - good report, but a couple of corrections:Tokyo has many subway lines... you probably mean that the pass that you bought for subways did not work for the JR trains - Tokyo metro is subway, JR is trains... and while some cards can be used for both, some passes cannot.As to Jan Jan... maybe some of the other experienced Sugamo mongers can confirm, but unless Jan Jan has expanded or moved since I was last there (more than a year ago), you were not really in Jan Jan - the entrance to Jan Jan takes you DOWNstairs to a basement shop, not upstairs. I suspect either you just weren't at Jan Jan at all, or else the tout was directing you to another shop that would take your measly 3k.
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Jan Jan
[QUOTE=JustGotBack]I went to BJ alley in Sagamo the other day. I tried to find the legendary Janjan but all the signs are in Japanese. How can you tell which one is it? [/QUOTE]JustGotBack: This is what the sign looks like (if memory serves me, the sign is in Katakana, not hiragana..) ジャン ジャン
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[QUOTE=JustGotBack]How does one find Janjan?[/QUOTE]I think you were in Janjan. I haven't been in any of the other places but from talking to the guys at the front desk, it seems like Janjan is the only place that will guarantee a BBBJ. Also, everything else in your description sounds like Janjan.
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[QUOTE=JustGotBack]I went to BJ alley in Sagamo the other day. I tried to find the legendary Janjan but all the signs are in Japanese. How can you tell which one is it? Anyways, I looked at a few sign boards and decided to go to the one that was the second one on the right if you are heading from the station. I headed downstairs and gave the lady 3K. She lead me to a booth and brought over some iced tea. I've been in some pretty seedy places. This was not. I've been in night clubs that have been worse. The booth in front of me was occupied with some guy and a fake short haired blond. I settled in for a long wait since some of you posted you had to wait for 30 mins. The wait was more like 30 seconds. I also got a short haired fake blond. She was thin and had a so so face. It's really dark so that doesn't matter that much. Her body was firm and her skin smooth. [b]She had some cold towels and handed me one. I wiped my face which made her laugh. She then wiped me down below since I obviously had no idea what to do with them.[/b] She kept sticking her nipples on my mouth so I sucked on them for a while and then she went at it. Unlike most other countries, no complaints, no pauses. She was like a machine and I finished in her mouth. She then handed me a fresh wet towel, bowed and went off to spit I guess. Not bad for $33. I didn't utter a word during the whole thing. Not to the tout, not to the madam and not to the girl. I just nodded or laughed when it seemed appropriate.How does one find Janjan? [/QUOTE]Thanks for that report. I will make good use it when I head to Tokyo in a few weeks.Just out of curiosity, anyone in the know want to explain what we're supposed to do with those towels? I know the lady wipes her client down, so I'm guessing it's for something else.
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I think He probably meant companies. Tokyo has two subway companies, Tokyo Metro and Toei, passes for one do not work for the other. Ie. One day passes, commuter passes etc. They include a discount which may not be honored by the other group. Suica and pasmo cards will work for all lines equipped with proper scanning equipment. No discounts involved just straight up fee deducted from the card.[QUOTE=Stew2]Puta - good report, but a couple of corrections:Tokyo has many subway lines... you probably mean that the pass that you bought for subways did not work for the JR trains - Tokyo metro is subway, JR is trains... and while some cards can be used for both, some passes cannot.As to Jan Jan... maybe some of the other experienced Sugamo mongers can confirm, but unless Jan Jan has expanded or moved since I was last there (more than a year ago), you were not really in Jan Jan - the entrance to Jan Jan takes you DOWNstairs to a basement shop, not upstairs. I suspect either you just weren't at Jan Jan at all, or else the tout was directing you to another shop that would take your measly 3k.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hanamizu]I think He probably meant companies. Tokyo has two subway companies, Tokyo Metro and Toei, passes for one do not work for the other. Ie. One day passes, commuter passes etc. They include a discount which may not be honored by the other group.[/QUOTE]I know that this isn't a travel thread, but the following may be useful for people coming to Tokyo. Hanamizu is right about the two subway companies in Tokyo. Also, JR (East Japan Railways) runs several lines in Tokyo, including the Yamanote circle line, some underground. There are also too many private lines to mention, though most of those start somewhere in central Tokyo and run out to the suburbs.One day passes: Tokyo metro has a 1 day pass available for 710 yen that covers their subway lines.Toei has a 1 day pass available for 700 yen that covers their subway lines, official city buses, the Toden street car, and the Nippori Toneri Liner.There is also a combo pass available for 1000 yen that covers the Tokyo metro and Toei lines and buses.If you're using the JR a lot as well, you can get a pass that covers all the above plus all JR line stations within Tokyo proper for 1580 yen (called "Tokyo Free Kippu")Also, many individual lines (such as the Yuri-kamome line that runs from Shinbashi to Odaiba) have 1-day tickets specific to that line. It's usually worth it to buy one if you ride the line at least 3 or 4 times in one day.Sorry for the interruption in mongering reports!
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[QUOTE=Stew2]JustGotBack: This is what the sign looks like (if memory serves me, the sign is in Katakana, not hiragana..) ジャン ジャン[/QUOTE]Thanks. Your memory is correct and I was in Janjan before. I went back yesterday. I got the front seat this time right next to the door. It was not very good this time. The woman walks in with the towels. Another fake blond but with long hair. An OK body, a face only a mother could love. Late 30's by my guess. She hands me a hot one and I proceed to undue my pants since wiping my face with it was the wrong thing to due last time. She then asks me something. I don't speak Japanese so I just nodded. She then asks me again and takes the towel from me. I just shrug. She then asks me if I speak Japanese. I can understand that much. I say no. She sits back in the chair and asks me where I'm from. I say I'm American. She says something like "America?". I thought she was going to bolt by the look on her face. She then says something, grabs a towel and proceeds to scrub me down with a passion. Dick exfoliation isn't fun. She then does it again. Then she takes off her panties and pulls down her top and says "soft touch, no hard touch". I don't know what pulling down her panties was for. Because I touch her on the shoulder and she shrugs me off. I then tried her back, shrugged off again. Waist, shrug. Finally I went for the ass and she looks up and says "no". I then just crossed my arms and let her do her thing. She stopped every few seconds to wipe me down with a towel. Finally I finished. As I expected, when the first squirt hit she pulled out which caused quite a mess. She hands me a towel and runs off. Of the two experiences, this was by far the worse. Even the first one was nothing to write home about. The BJs are more of a HJ/BJ combo. Kind of what the girls in BA or a FKK will do to get you off when time is running short. $33 is cheap, but I rather save up my money for a FKK or even a window girl in Amsterdam or Frankfurt. Those are covered but done with more skill. It was much better a decade ago. The girls were younger, bowed when they first came in and were mouth only, no hand.The big question is, what are you supposed to do with that first towel they hand you.
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[QUOTE=JustGotBack] Then she takes off her panties and pulls down her top and says "soft touch, no hard touch". I don't know what pulling down her panties was for. The big question is, what are you supposed to do with that first towel they hand you.[/QUOTE]...to wipe off your hands before you finger her. They will moan and groan for you and hopefully make you hot and ready to come. At least that is supposed to be part of the service in a BJ place, but obviously this woman was not into the idea of an American being her customer.
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First Time Visit
Hello everyone,I've been reading your very helpful posts and I noticed that nobody seemed to talk about the Narita area. I will be arriving at the airport there and I have a hotel room near. I am very interested in trying a soapland or at the very least a pink salon. I'm a half Korean/white American that speaks only English. I don't know if my appearance will work as a bonus or not. Can some of you more experienced guys give me some advice on where I should go from the Hilton in Narita? Thanks in advance.Dat
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[QUOTE=Mystery Poster]What was that site linked to with a hospital-like room with people in horse masks? Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I would say RTF 1 page back, but I want to learn more this place...can anybody interepret the Japanese on the map to determine the location and system here? If any Tokyo-pro can review the place, please do. It's certainly different. Obviously the girls have seen Hostel one too many times. Probably have a pig mask and chainsaw around there somewhere... ;)[url]http://www.bizakuri.com/access.html[/url][QUOTE=Stew2]Puta - good report, but a couple of corrections:Tokyo has many subway lines... you probably mean that the pass that you bought for subways did not work for the JR trains - Tokyo metro is subway, JR is trains... and while some cards can be used for both, some passes cannot.As to Jan Jan... maybe some of the other experienced Sugamo mongers can confirm, but unless Jan Jan has expanded or moved since I was last there (more than a year ago), you were not really in Jan Jan - the entrance to Jan Jan takes you DOWNstairs to a basement shop, not upstairs. I suspect either you just weren't at Jan Jan at all, or else the tout was directing you to another shop that would take your measly 3k.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yes, my terminology was just screwed up. I mean that there are two subway 'systems', Tokyo Metro and Toei. Sugamo is on the Toei system. It doesn't matter too much. One-day open pass Tokyo Metro mongers can just ride to the nearest Tokyo Metro station and pay a few bucks for the jaunt to Sugamo on the Toei system. As a recent Tokyo virgin, I'd recommend that other T virgins buy the one day TM pass at Narita, then take the ride up to Sugamo, bust your nuts on J-girl tonsils for ~$30 USD and spend the rest of the day doing more valuable things like sightseeing on the metro pass. If the place I went wasn't Jan-Jan, then this is good news because it means I'm trailblazing and have found a different gaijin-friendly BBBJ place that has at least one hot girl. The place that I went to is shown in the attached picture.I'll be back in Tokyo next week, and this time I'll be hitting some 'happening bars' hoping to seed some gaijin-slumming J-wife. Can anybody make a recommendation for a happening bar, what time to go, the system, etc? Mysteria Purety looks like the best option, followed by silk, but I am not sure of the setup. Can some of you experienced Tokyo mongers advise on the Happening Bar scene?Overall perspective on this trip so far: This is my second time in Japan and I've been in four J-girls so far, 2 Tokyo girls and 2 Osaka girls. I have to say, expat J-mongers must be hardcore and well-heeled...J-guys do a damn fine job of keeping us devil-gaijin away from their women. Pickup anywhere in the west is easier than P4P in Japan...still, I know these J-girls routinely do stuff that my favorite kinky Brazilian girls would not dream of, due to their upbringing and fear of eternal damnation...so I retain an appreciation for the J-scene, despite its unfriendliness, due the fact that *anything* is available if your are in the right place at the right time.
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Sugamo BBBJ place
Sorry, I didn't attach it on my last post. I got BBBJ there this week, and it's reported by other mongers to be something other than Jan-Jan because I walked upstairs and not downstairs.PP
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[QUOTE=Coltpython]Hello everyone,I've been reading your very helpful posts and I noticed that nobody seemed to talk about the Narita area. I will be arriving at the airport there and I have a hotel room near. I am very interested in trying a soapland or at the very least a pink salon. I'm a half Korean/white American that speaks only English. I don't know if my appearance will work as a bonus or not. Can some of you more experienced guys give me some advice on where I should go from the Hilton in Narita? Thanks in advance.Dat[/QUOTE]Narita is in the middle of nowhere, one hour from downtown by express, that is why no one talks about it. You could get an AM girl to visit you if you pay an extra fee. DH girls might as well, but you'll need Japanese. KHD might work, especially if you speak a little Korean. Everyone will charge a bit extra to go to Narita, but the room at the Hilton may convince them you are a player with real money and not a time waster.Your appearance won't help you unless you go downtown, and even then you'll need a few words of Japanese.I suggest jumping on the express to Nippori and looking around there.
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Takeout
I'm not sure what those abbreviations mean but how would I go about seeing a selection of such girls? Are the hot spots in Nippori easy to find? A google search found nothing at first glance. What are the distinctive features of these establishments that give away their identity? I don't know a thing about the Japanese language.Thanks for your quick response.[QUOTE=Asian Travels]Narita is in the middle of nowhere, one hour from downtown by express, that is why no one talks about it. You could get an AM girl to visit you if you pay an extra fee. DH girls might as well, but you'll need Japanese. KHD might work, especially if you speak a little Korean. Everyone will charge a bit extra to go to Narita, but the room at the Hilton may convince them you are a player with real money and not a time waster.Your appearance won't help you unless you go downtown, and even then you'll need a few words of Japanese.I suggest jumping on the express to Nippori and looking around there.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Coltpython]I'm not sure what those abbreviations mean but how would I go about seeing a selection of such girls? Are the hot spots in Nippori easy to find? A google search found nothing at first glance. What are the distinctive features of these establishments that give away their identity? I don't know a thing about the Japanese language.Thanks for your quick response.[/QUOTE]RTFF.Search the Forum for the terms, not Google.
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Sugamo BJ Alley
Can anyone provide directions to the Sugamo BJ alley?Where is Jan Jan located?
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Re: Hopeless
[QUOTE=Coltpython]Narita[/QUOTE]You'll need Japanese skills but here is one option:[url]http://www.hitodumajo.com/narita/main.php[/url]ES
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[QUOTE=Coltpython]I'm not sure what those abbreviations mean but how would I go about seeing a selection of such girls? Are the hot spots in Nippori easy to find? A google search found nothing at first glance. What are the distinctive features of these establishments that give away their identity? I don't know a thing about the Japanese language.Thanks for your quick response.[/QUOTE]AM=Asian MystiqueDH= Delivery HealthKDH (mistype)= Korean Delivery HealthGoogle should help with that, but the forum is the best place to look. Anyway, DH and KDH are out of reach for you since you don't speak any Japanese. In fact, if you don't speak any Japanese, finding a location in Nippori might be out of reach for you also. Tokyo can be successfully navigated by non-Japanese speakers if they are resourceful, but it requires work and a certain degree of cleverness.After thinking about it, just contact Asian Mystique. They are set up specifically to handle customers like you. Just Google their name, it should be the first link.
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Use "search this forum" and put in "sugamo" and there are plenty of posts describing how to find it.[QUOTE=Sinboy1]Can anyone provide directions to the Sugamo BJ alley?Where is Jan Jan located?[/QUOTE]
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Directions to Sugamo
[QUOTE=Sinboy1]Can anyone provide directions to the Sugamo BJ alley?Where is Jan Jan located?[/QUOTE]I'm usually lurking, but I feel a little generous today. Here are some pics I got from Google Maps.In photo 1, you'll reach JR Sugamo Station and use the SOUTH exit. Once you reach the taxi boarding area, you'll have this view. Follow the yellow arrow.In photo 2, it's a closer look at the street (Sugamo Blowjob Alley) you should enter. Proceed as the yellow arrow indicates.In photo 3, going down that road, look on the right side until you find the red/white sign. There should be a tout standing in front (unlike in this pic) and guiding you to go downstairs to the basement floor.Good luck.
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No Foreigners Allowed Foreigner Deli-heru
Nothing that I think would be of interest to folks on this list, but I just stumbled across the following site that forbids all foreigners (no exceptions):[url]http://www.milkeve.com/[/url]The truly ironic thing is that it is an escort that specializes in supplying blonde foreign chicks located in Roppongi. This country never stops giving me a chuckle.
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Chinese place in Takatanobaba
I can confirm that Momojiriemaki is down. The guy from the shop right next to it told me it's been closed for a few weeks.I tried this new Chinese place around Takatanobaba[url]http://tokyo-s-p-m.com/main.php[/url]The place is really hard to find, you get out at the Waseda exit then go to your left, you should see the Yoshinoya, cross the street then turn left toward the Mitsubishi Tokyo UFG bank... keep going all the way until Pachinko Espace, walk up until the next traffic light and it's on your right. Call the shop once get to the traffic light and someone will come and pick you up. You must speak Japanese, I had a really hard time to find the place. I thought that my Japanese skills were poor but once in the shop I realized the guy was constantly on the phone trying to give directions to struggling mongers...Anyway, about the place. It's a small apartment, no separate rooms, just curtains, you can hear the guy next to you doing his thing. The girl I had(Minami) was OK, I was told she was in her 20s by the guy at the door, the girl told me she was 31, she was OK. Japanese was almost non-existent, no English either. Basic conversation in Chinese. 1. The usual shower, she was nice, smiling, pretty good attitude for a Chinese girl.2. A short massage3. Main event, multiple positions, some kissing, she was obviously not very experienced, she told me she had been doing this for 8 days.4. Massage and shower, she was nice, told me to come back.Total damage for 60 mins : 8500 yen, I think it's a deal. Note : There is another chinese place in Takatanobaba that is still in business. In front of the Wendy's, above the real estate shop on the 5F. Anyone has any info about the website? Price is 8000yen/hour, separate rooms, service is usually good.[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin]Recently took a trip to Takadanobaba, because I still miss Paprika.Then, as a fail-safe option, I turned around and walked up to Momojiriemaki, across the street from the Waseda exit to Takadanobaba station. It is exactly where prior reports have placed it, in the alley across from Takadanobaba station, on the right side, with the kanji "bijin" sign and the stairs upward. I would suggest to newcomers to be careful not to go straight up the stairs and forward into the fashion health on the third floor-- it is more expensive than Momojiriemaki. Momojiriemaki is on the third floor, but you have to make a you-turn to get to their door.So, bottom line, Momojiriemaki gets the job done, at a price that can't be beat, but is definitely a few steps down from Paprika, if that's possible.[/QUOTE]
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Chinese place Pinky Takadanobaba
I found the website for the other Chinese place in Takadanobaba. Been there last week, it is alive and well. 8000 yen for 60 mins, service is OK, private room, pretty clean for a Chinese joint.Have fun[url]http://www.pinky-t.com/[/url][QUOTE=Gifuboy]Note : There is another chinese place in Takatanobaba that is still in business. In front of the Wendy's, above the real estate shop on the 5F. Anyone has any info about the website? Price is 8000yen/hour, separate rooms, service is usually good.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gifuboy]I found the website for the other Chinese place in Takadanobaba. Been there last week, it is alive and well. 8000 yen for 60 mins, service is OK, private room, pretty clean for a Chinese joint.Have fun[url]http://www.pinky-t.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Does the map on their site give any real clue as to where it is?(Thanks for your 'baba research.)
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[QUOTE=Backtobasics]Does the map on their site give any real clue as to where it is?(Thanks for your 'baba research.)[/QUOTE]No. That's just one of the main gates near the Waseda Exit of the station. The website says, "After you come out of the Waseda Exit, please give us a call."
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the10000yen.com
Contrary to what I wrote at the end of a previous report, I decided to give the10000yen.com another try. They told me that the first two girls I wanted were busy, but they wouldn't pick a girl themselves, because they wanted to charge me the 2,000 nomination fee. Eventually I chose Miu, and I think they sent me the same girl, but she was definately not too kind on the eyes. But once again she gave great service. We made out on my bed for a few minutes, gave me BBBJ and in very little time, I was inside her pussy. We fucked in a number of different possitions, and she never mentioned the time, but because I had ordered the 40 min course, I went ahead and gave her a facial when I thought it was about time. She cleaned herself up and then lay down besides me for a bit. After a few minutes she got dressed. I noticed that she put on all her cloths except her panties, so I when over to her and we started making out. I reached around and held her ass and I could tell she was still horny. I felt her pussy and since it was wet, I turned her around for a quicky. I leaned her up against the wall and then layed her down on my bed with her ass in the air and tried to come as fast as I could. After a few minutes, I shot another load on her ass. She lay there recovering for a few minutes, then wiped herself down, put on her panties and left. 40 min, 13000yen, BBBJ, 2 rounds FS and 2 pops (w/ one facial). So two for two the girls at the10000yen have been not too much to look at but fun little sluts.
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Directions to Takadanobaba Pinki
Hey BackToBasics,you have to call to get directions. I've been there a few times so I usually just show up at the counter. Get out at the Waseda exit(JR Yamanote line), turn right(towards Mizuho bank) on Waseda-dori. Keep on the right side of Waseda-Dori. Walk for about 2-3 mins, you will see a Wendy's and a Tsutaya on the left side of the street(you're still on the right side), then you should see a coffee shop(sorry forgot the name) on the right side of the street, pass the coffee shop and you will see a Real Estate(fudousan) shop on your right, there is an entrance to a building on the right of the fudousan shop. Enter the building, elevator is on your left, there is a bar on B1, take the elevator to the 5F, shop is there.If you get lost, call them(in Japanese). Good luck. [QUOTE=Backtobasics]Does the map on their site give any real clue as to where it is?(Thanks for your 'baba research.)[/QUOTE]
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the10000yen
I checked out their website, and found something really bizarre. They are a chain, and they have Japanese and English language websites for the Roppongi location. What is odd is that the Japanese-site clearly states that foreigners are forbidden. I guess that just means non-English speaking foreigners. Anyway, thanks for sharing Xslikx.
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The 10000yen
[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko] What is odd is that the Japanese-site clearly states that foreigners are forbidden. I guess that just means non-English speaking foreigners. Anyway, thanks for sharing Xslikx.[/QUOTE]Let me tell u that they welcome foreigners with open arms (and legs)! At least for the Shinagawa & Roppongi branches. 90% of the girls provide FS.I'm not sure why more in this forum don't use them.
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[QUOTE=Suedehead]Let me tell u that they welcome foreigners with open arms (and legs)! At least for the Shinagawa & Roppongi branches. 90% of the girls provide FS.I'm not sure why more in this forum don't use them.[/QUOTE]A couple years ago there were a few posts about them. The main thing I didn't like is they charge foreigners more. That said, sounds like Xslikx was able to use the J-site and get J-prices. Getting FS for the price he paid is a good deal.Japanese site:10,000/40min, naming 2,000, plus travel 1,000-2,000English site for Ex-pats on expense accounts who haven't a clue about prices in Japan and can't speak or read a word of Japanese:16,000/40min, naming 4,000 plus travel 2,000-4,000Also, there is a good chance they speak little to no English, so the ex-pat type looking for a GFE chat may be unhappy there.Search Tokyo for 10000 and you'll find more reports.[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=669938&postcount=4110[/url]
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I've used them quite a few times and have not gotten FS (although I don't ask for it, either) but I always opt for quick service (30 or 40 min). The assessment that the ladies are so-so in the looks department is pretty accurate. The Roppongi phone number is the only one that takes foreigners in my experience. I always use them during the day shift and that's when they tout "housewives" so you're going to get an older lady. The higher prices on the Roppongi site is for the "gaijin premium" and not negotiable. It's a different set of ladies who are vetted to accept foreigners.If you want a young attractive lady stick to AM. You'll pay a premium for it but if that's what you need, that's what you'll get.A young friend of mine (expat) told me he tried Champs the other day, chose a young (28 is young at Champs) lady from the line up and said he will not go back. He is the type who likes a 18-yo (he's 24) and was pretty uncomfortable going with a lady older than him. He frequents pink salons and says it's a better deal and he can get usually get a younger lady that way. I told him to try one of the older (40s-50s) ladies at Champs or NYNY and he said his mother is 45-yo back in the UK and he would never go with a lady who is his mother's age. I told him those older ladies are usually pretty good in the skills department and he had this sick look on his face.I guess I have to remember that there are many mongerers here who are pretty young and have no interest in "older" ladies. Us older guys apparently have a different perspective on things. :-)It also explains why some of those dirty, hideous FS Chinese esute places get decent reviews here. If they say the 30-yo lady is 22-yo and can get away with it, at least in the mind of the guy, I guess that's what it takes. I think all of us who have been to those places know they lie by 5-10 years, sometimes even many more years are subtracted from the stated age but it's the belief that matters.[QUOTE=Lion]A couple years ago there were a few posts about them. The main thing I didn't like is they charge foreigners more. That said, sounds like Xslikx was able to use the J-site and get J-prices. Getting FS for the price he paid is a good deal.Japanese site:10,000/40min, naming 2,000, plus travel 1,000-2,000English site for Ex-pats on expense accounts who haven't a clue about prices in Japan and can't speak or read a word of Japanese:16,000/40min, naming 4,000 plus travel 2,000-4,000Also, there is a good chance they speak little to no English, so the ex-pat type looking for a GFE chat may be unhappy there.Search Tokyo for 10000 and you'll find more reports.[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=669938&postcount=4110[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Homer69]If you want a young attractive lady stick to AM.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the ladies of AM are no longer young or attractive. At least not like they were two or three years ago. While AM is still the easiest service to book for non-Japanese speakers. I find the selection to be a bit disappointing. Don't get me wrong. I used to be a huge fan of AM, and used their service two or three times a month. But, no longer.
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New Hinomaru
Went to Hinomaru at Shinjuku on Saturday. They must have a new owner or so now. First, internet didn't have the coupon anymore, price system changed and also on the internet no link to ikebukuro shop anymore. When I went there the tout was as friendly as last time but the size inside was like 1/2 of previous. 2 rows only. Tout waved me in and asked me whether short term 20 min free play for 4000 yen or longer with girl selection 40 min for 8000 yen. Went fot the latter and took mariko. She did an excellent job, and jumped on top (covered) after 20 minutes and I then soon couldn't hod it any more. Very nice expereince as expected.Does anyone have reports about the other girls. 2 girls in service when I went out looked quite attractive, but without staring I couldn't identify more.
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Other Chinese FS Options in Takadanobaba
Hi All, Longtime lurker here. Just thought I'd add to the discussions about Chinese FS esutes in Takadanobaba. Here are a few more websites.[url]http://www.otokonorakuen-s.com/[/url][url]http://www.tulip-k.net/[/url][url]http://www.hichu200.com/[/url]You have to call and ask for directions in Japanese, but they are all near the Waseda exit of Takadanobaba station. They are all shabby locations, with bare-bones venue and service, but for the price you can't beat it. Don't forget to report back if you check them out.
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Funny time in Nippori
It had been a while for a stop in Nippori so wen by Funny ([url]http://2008-funny.com/main.html[/url]) the other day. As before, usually a few guys waiting who didn't reserve though didn't mind to wait a bit.Had Kaoru and while looking nothing like the pic on the site (of course) though she was tons of fun. Started off in the shower together with plenty of touching, kissing and BJ. Got me out of the shower and more of the same finally finishing with a HJ. Bit of a massage and another HJ for good measure. Realized after that only got 50 minutes in (paid 8000 Yen for the 60 minute course) though no complaints. Mention the site and get an additional 10 minutes on top.
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[QUOTE=Homer69]I've used them quite a few times and have not gotten FS (although I don't ask for it, either) but I always opt for quick service (30 or 40 min). The assessment that the ladies are so-so in the looks department is pretty accurate. The Roppongi phone number is the only one that takes foreigners in my experience.[/QUOTE]I have used the Shinjuku and Ikebukuro shops (the10000yen). I did the transaction in Japanese and paid the Japanese price (I don't do business with places that charge me a Gaijin tax after being disappointed with the girls they send). I have to agree with your friends feeling about paying for older ladies. I'm 35 and I date girls who are around 25 (+- 5). Occationally I fuck someone older from a bar or something, but I would never pay to do so. I think this notion that the older ones are more fun is bullshit. As far as I'm concerned a girl is fun when she's slutty and loves to get fucked whether she's 16 or 50.
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Anyone up for some intelligence gathering?
I am still stuck in exile, but occasionally I am allowed back in Tokyo for good behavior, and so I try to "keep my hand in." I have five places in my queue that need to be checked out. Four are thought to be gaijin-friendly, and one is 99% confirmed to be. None have been mentioned on any of the regular forums (or minor ones either). The only condition is that you have to speak a fairly good level of Japanese. Anyone interested?
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Dominatrix
Since Tokyo is known for its fetish opportunities, I decided to find a world-class professional dominatrix service here for a memorable experience...and I found a great one that has English speaking J-dominas.I got a quite sophisticated early 20's 100% Japanese domina who spoke very good English and was a stunning beauty 9.5. This particular service trains their girls through apprenticeships and sends them to events in Europe for experiences, so you get a sense of the professionalism. These are lifestyle dominas, not just putas with whips. The fee was 20k for 70 minutes, 2k nomination fee for her, and one time 3k membership fee. She told me not to worry about the nomination fee. We met at the prearranged place streetside in Kabukicho, then went to a shop for tea and she spent about 30 minutes getting to know me and talking about what scenes I like and why, and this time was not taken from the 70 minutes. All said, I paid for a 70 minute session and spent about 2 hours with the girl, so it's a departure from the kind of clock watching fast-foda service that I am used to in the ho houses and pink salons.If anyone is interested in such a service, you can PM me and we'll talk. I want to help others, but I am really scared of this getting fucked up by someone who doesn't follow the booking/meeting procedure or doesn't session the way that was agreed.
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Did I get it right?
[QUOTE=Spacemiha]Went to Hinomaru at Shinjuku on Saturday. They must have a new owner or so now. First, internet didn't have the coupon anymore, price system changed and also on the internet no link to ikebukuro shop anymore. When I went there the tout was as friendly as last time but the size inside was like 1/2 of previous. 2 rows only. Tout waved me in and asked me whether short term 20 min free play for 4000 yen or longer with girl selection 40 min for 8000 yen. Went fot the latter and took mariko. She did an excellent job, and jumped on top (covered) after 20 minutes and I then soon couldn't hod it any more. Very nice expereince as expected.Does anyone have reports about the other girls. 2 girls in service when I went out looked quite attractive, but without staring I couldn't identify more.[/QUOTE] You got FS at Hinomaru for 4000Y? I thought this was just a Bj place. if true, that's a pretty good deal by Tokyo standard!
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Hinomaru
[QUOTE=Dreams]You got FS at Hinomaru for 4000Y? I thought this was just a Bj place. if true, that's a pretty good deal by Tokyo standard![/QUOTE]No, I went for 8000 yen course and received FS. Depends on the girl however what you get and you might better not ask for it but wait for what you'll get - depends on the girl.
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FS are Hinomaru for 8k? Must be a lucky man.
[QUOTE=Dreams]You got FS at Hinomaru for 4000Y? I thought this was just a Bj place. if true, that's a pretty good deal by Tokyo standard![/QUOTE]I was there an hour ago. I had to re-humanize myself from the dominatrix session I had earlier this afternoon..and what better way to get-back than nutting on some other J-girls tonsils. It was my first time there, and I had a hell of a time finding it. For those who might be looking for Hinomaru sign with romanji somwhere on it, like I was, don't. It is a big red vertical sign in Japanese that has the Japanese flag at the top.I paid 8k to pick a girl and take her back for 40 minutes. It was BBBJ with CIM finish, no swallow. The girl was mid-30's, average, pure Japanese and very overly polite like a J-woman you would meet on the street. Older than I prefer, but who can complain about BBBJ. The BBBJ lasted 30 minutes until I got bored and decided to let her have the seed. She did the same weird style that I got last time at Jan-Jan..with hand job and sucking sideways on the remainders of what once was my foreskin 30 years ago...then going deep, then back to the side. She ended by giving me the most thorough milking-out I've ever had, squeezing every last drop into her mouth, from base to tip, applying two-finger widths of pressure at a timeI've noticed that the pink salon girls don't swallow, *but* they aren't in a hurry to spit either..they milk your cock out and then hold the jizz in their their mouths while they throughly you clean off with towels..then they spit the seed into a towel a minute later or so.It is amazing how these skinny pink salon girls can flip basically upside down, support themselves with one hand on the floor, then suck for 30 minutes plus like a machine, never breaking rhythm with the music...the lyrics of the music at hinomaru even said something that sounded like "gobble, gobble"..and at one point I chuckled because she was indeed gobbling. Has anyone else heard this?Jan-Jan still dominates for selection and price, plus I find it easier to locate. Better yet, try both. It's cheap compared with buying said services in the US or most of Europe. My beloved Rio de Janeiro doesn't even have any BBBJ options as cheap as Jan-Jan.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Spacemiha]... She did an excellent job, and jumped on top (covered) after 20 minutes and I then soon couldn't hold it any more. Very nice expereince as expected.[/QUOTE]Did she start out with BBBJ and then wrap you up halfway through, or did she cover it at the beginning?
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Looking for a nice Club in Ikebukuro
Was thinking to try out UCLA. They are GF and girls look nice.Do they accept more than one shot during your booked time? Or any other suggestions than UCLA?
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Thanks for the report, Gifuboy.The photos on the website look kind of fakey - does the girl actually match up with the photo, or is it not-even-close/don't-expect-it kind of place.[QUOTE=Gifuboy]I can confirm that Momojiriemaki is down. The guy from the shop right next to it told me it's been closed for a few weeks.I tried this new Chinese place around Takatanobaba[url]http://tokyo-s-p-m.com/main.php[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]I checked out their website, and found something really bizarre. They are a chain, and they have Japanese and English language websites for the Roppongi location. What is odd is that the Japanese-site clearly states that foreigners are forbidden. I guess that just means non-English speaking foreigners. Anyway, thanks for sharing Xslikx.[/QUOTE]I have used the Shinjuku branch for quite a while now. You HAVE to be able to speak Japanese for that branch though. It just makes more sense to use the Japanese ones because it is less money. Have had a couple good experiences. Had a really, really young girl and she was very much into FS. The also did a swap on me once though. Selected a big titted girl. The girl that came had barely any tits. Later I complained and they said that she had lost weight but that they sent me the girl I had asked for. Whatever. Still not a bad place. Almost always get full service.
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New monger in japan
What up fellas I've been reading a few posts and wanted to a ask a few questions about the mongering seen in japan. I'm near hachioji and tachikawa. So my first question is are the any mongering spots in these areas? Second since I'm still learning the train system when is the best time to go to sugamo blowjob alley. Day or night? does in matter. Lastly does anybody have directions to the spots in shinjuku. I think thats it.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]Did she start out with BBBJ and then wrap you up halfway through, or did she cover it at the beginning?[/QUOTE]I asked for cover at the beginning, not brave enough for BBBJ.
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I wouldn't call UCLA a nice place. It's kind of a dump. But, they have Japanese ladies so you need basic Japanese skills. The number of shots depends on the girls and the time you paid for. It's a health joint so everything is all pretty safe but don't believe the pictures.[QUOTE=Asian55]Was thinking to try out UCLA. They are GF and girls look nice.Do they accept more than one shot during your booked time? Or any other suggestions than UCLA?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Adimu26]What up fellas I've been reading a few posts and wanted to a ask a few questions about the mongering seen in japan. I'm near hachioji and tachikawa. So my first question is are the any mongering spots in these areas? Second since I'm still learning the train system when is the best time to go to sugamo blowjob alley. Day or night? does in matter. Lastly does anybody have directions to the spots in shinjuku. I think thats it.[/QUOTE]I haven't heard anything about Tachikawa for several years. It used to be fairly active, but that was a long time ago. Anything left of its former glory is likely to be not Gaijin-friendly. I've never heard of anything reliable in Hachioji. It sounds like you are at Yokota - I'm sure that there's some scuttlebutt around the base on where the action is.There are plusses and minuses for day and night for Sugamo. Day is likely to be less busy except for lunch time.There are plenty of reports for Shinjuku in here. Use the Search This Thread tool in the upper right hand corner. It can be your friend.
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Typical Chinese esute.- Photos may be be real but photoshopped beyond recognition or simply fake- Girls are most likely 5-10 years older than advertised- The girls' Japanese level is often poor- Service varies greatly (you might have a great time or be terribly disappointed)Having said that, most places around "Baba" offers 40 mins courses for 6500 yen(including FS) so if you're not expecting too much it's one hell of a deal. (60 mins course is 8000/8500 yen)Good luck![QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Thanks for the report, Gifuboy.The photos on the website look kind of fakey - does the girl actually match up with the photo, or is it not-even-close/don't-expect-it kind of place.[/QUOTE]
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I knew a place called t-paprika that was fairly gaijin friendly (ie they don't ask question, you pay and get in.) but the homepage seems to be down so I guess the shop is close now.Any good asia este around baba? I found some homepage but they don't explain how to get there.[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Typical Chinese esute.- Photos may be be real but photoshopped beyond recognition or simply fake- Girls are most likely 5-10 years older than advertised- The girls' Japanese level is often poor- Service varies greatly (you might have a great time or be terribly disappointed)Having said that, most places around "Baba" offers 40 mins courses for 6500 yen(including FS) so if you're not expecting too much it's one hell of a deal. (60 mins course is 8000/8500 yen)Good luck![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Typical Chinese esute.- Photos may be be real but photoshopped beyond recognition or simply fake[/QUOTE]One way to tell is to look at the background and look for similar couches etc. If all the girls are wearing the same uniform that is another indicator they are fakes.
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Does anyone have a link to the cheaper, Japanese site for 10,000 Yen?[QUOTE=Xslikx]Contrary to what I wrote at the end of a previous report, I decided to give the10000yen.com another try. They told me that the first two girls I wanted were busy, but they wouldn't pick a girl themselves, because they wanted to charge me the 2,000 nomination fee. Eventually I chose Miu, and I think they sent me the same girl, but she was definately not too kind on the eyes. But once again she gave great service. We made out on my bed for a few minutes, gave me BBBJ and in very little time, I was inside her pussy. We fucked in a number of different possitions, and she never mentioned the time, but because I had ordered the 40 min course, I went ahead and gave her a facial when I thought it was about time. She cleaned herself up and then lay down besides me for a bit. After a few minutes she got dressed. I noticed that she put on all her cloths except her panties, so I when over to her and we started making out. I reached around and held her ass and I could tell she was still horny. I felt her pussy and since it was wet, I turned her around for a quicky. I leaned her up against the wall and then layed her down on my bed with her ass in the air and tried to come as fast as I could. After a few minutes, I shot another load on her ass. She lay there recovering for a few minutes, then wiped herself down, put on her panties and left. 40 min, 13000yen, BBBJ, 2 rounds FS and 2 pops (w/ one facial). So two for two the girls at the10000yen have been not too much to look at but fun little sluts.[/QUOTE]
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Try changing the URL so that it only includes the domain name.[QUOTE=Warmjan]Does anyone have a link to the cheaper, Japanese site for 10,000 Yen?[/QUOTE]
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I Second That Emotion
[QUOTE=Warmjan]Wanted to let you guys know about two pink salons I've found in Gotanda that are gaijin-friendly.They're out the East exit, make a right by the Yoshinoya and into a warren of streets in the red-light district -- gets a bit difficult to describe the directions from there but this Web site should help:[url]http://www.emotion.vc[/url]... Had a pretty cute girl (Sayaka) at Emotions, but just a so-so BJ. Emotions charged me 7,000, but I later heard them charging a few Japanese guys 4,000 -- I thought about arguing but my Japanese isn't good enough, and in any case I was happy just to get in....[/QUOTE]I visited Emotion yesterday and had a similar experience. I spoke with the manager and here's the deal: Gaijin do pay 7, 000 yen for 2 shots on goal (2 different girls) while Japanese have the choice of either paying 3, 500 for 1 pop or 7, 000 yen for 2. He explained that their rationale is that not all the girls are into the Gaijin experience and locking us into the two-fer is more an incentive to the girls. Who are paid based on how many customers they "process".If you're up for 2 shots, this is a good deal. The first chick, Sayaka (see above) was 27, cute, friendly and definitely into her chosen profession. Her technique was fair, but her love of the game was most endearing. I fired the retro rockets in about 5 minutes and was afraid I'd caused damage to her tonsils. She then went into an excellent impression of an Electrolux and cleaned things up without the need for a tissue. Very nice.She excused herself and I sat there alone for another 7-8 minutes. Which I used to recharge the battery (none of us is getting any younger). Then the second girl showed up. Yukino was what Sayaka would look like if she drank a 6-pack of tall beers every day for a year. If you can get past that (I managed.), she is pleasant and very good at doing what I went there to have done. I'd say she qualifies for an MBA (Master of BJ Administration).Emotion is definitely Gaijin friendly and saves many of us the trek out to Sugamo.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Mavie Derien]I knew a place called t-paprika that was fairly gaijin friendly (ie they don't ask question, you pay and get in.) but the homepage seems to be down so I guess the shop is close now.[/QUOTE]Paprika closed a few months ago.
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[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Paprika closed a few months ago.[/QUOTE]Arf,Any place similar that could be recommanded?
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Makahari
Hello,I stay this time in makahari in the new oritani hotel. This is where the fair is. Far out of everything. Will not have the time to go downtown. I heared it is quiet there.Is there any action. Thank you for helping.
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[QUOTE=Mavie Derien]Arf,Any place similar that could be recommanded?[/QUOTE]I posted a list of websites from about 30 gaijin friendly places a few weeks ago. Or you could also try using the search function in the upper right hand corner.
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I'll be going to tokyo and staying in shinjuku from Aug 11-24th. I'll like to try a pink salon and an image club, but I got a few questions first. Do most stores decline Asian foreigners as well? How far can you get with the girl from an image club? Any good recommendation for the first time Tokyo goer?
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Is it also....
[QUOTE=Tokyo Plaxico]I visited Emotion yesterday and had a similar experience. I spoke with the manager and here's the deal: Gaijin do pay 7, 000 yen for 2 shots on goal (2 different girls) while Japanese have the choice of either paying 3, 500 for 1 pop or 7, 000 yen for 2. He explained that their rationale is that not all the girls are into the Gaijin experience and locking us into the two-fer is more an incentive to the girls. Who are paid based on how many customers they "process".If you're up for 2 shots, this is a good deal. The first chick, Sayaka (see above) was 27, cute, friendly and definitely into her chosen profession. Her technique was fair, but her love of the game was most endearing. I fired the retro rockets in about 5 minutes and was afraid I'd caused damage to her tonsils. She then went into an excellent impression of an Electrolux and cleaned things up without the need for a tissue. Very nice.She excused herself and I sat there alone for another 7-8 minutes. Which I used to recharge the battery (none of us is getting any younger). Then the second girl showed up. Yukino was what Sayaka would look like if she drank a 6-pack of tall beers every day for a year. If you can get past that (I managed.), she is pleasant and very good at doing what I went there to have done. I'd say she qualifies for an MBA (Master of BJ Administration).Emotion is definitely Gaijin friendly and saves many of us the trek out to Sugamo.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]...friendly to non japanese speaking gaijins?
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[QUOTE=Gene Cooks]I'll be going to tokyo and staying in shinjuku from Aug 11-24th. I'll like to try a pink salon and an image club, but I got a few questions first. Do most stores decline Asian foreigners as well? How far can you get with the girl from an image club? Any good recommendation for the first time Tokyo goer?[/QUOTE]1. A gaijin is a gaijin. Some places might be more likely to reject non-Japanese asians, some might be less. If you can speak Japanese well enough to pass for a native, that's the only real possible advantage to being Asian.2. It depends on a whole lot of factors; e.g. what the rules for the image club are, what their rules for foreigners are, what nationality the girls working there are, etc. You will note that there are very few reviews of image clubs on this board. Draw your own conclusions from that.3. Use the search tool in the upper right. Many have asked the same questions you have before, and some of us have answered multiple times in the past. Learn the meaning of the acronym RTFF.
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Help please
Hi,Thank you everyone in advance for your friendly advice. I have heard of the club "RTFF" but do not find the web page. Is this a pink salon? I appreciate your help. I would like to try the legendary Japanese RTFF. Is it in Narita? Thank you in advance.ES
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Ha! Ha! Ha!
[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]I have heard of the club "RTFF"...[/QUOTE]Nice try, ES!I, too, am getting a bit tired of the same type of post from one-timers just joining ISG.
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Rtff
[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Hi,Thank you everyone in advance for your friendly advice. I have heard of the club "RTFF" but do not find the web page. Is this a pink salon? I appreciate your help. I would like to try the legendary Japanese RTFF. Is it in Narita? Thank you in advance.ES[/QUOTE]There are RTFF salons in many cities, not just in Japan, but worldwide!You can check for them on almost every forum!J
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You do realize that as time passes, those 30 places are going to be whittled down to 0 places as they each experience an influx of drunk, disorderly, uncooperative dumbasses who demand FS and treat the ladies like animals, don't you?[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]I posted a list of websites from about 30 gaijin friendly places a few weeks ago. Or you could also try using the search function in the upper right hand corner.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Homer69]You do realize that as time passes, those 30 places are going to be whittled down to 0 places as they each experience an influx of drunk, disorderly, uncooperative dumbasses who demand FS and treat the ladies like animals, don't you?[/QUOTE]That's what we're here for. You're welcome!
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[QUOTE=Homer69]You do realize that as time passes, those 30 places are going to be whittled down to 0 places as they each experience an influx of drunk, disorderly, uncooperative dumbasses who demand FS and treat the ladies like animals, don't you?[/QUOTE]Yes. I only posted those sites which have been openly discussed in this forum, or another open English-language forum (e.g. TPG). So I'm not revealing any secrets. I have locations that I don't share also. I'd say that many of your posts are more detailed and revealing than my list.Besides, of the places I listed, only one or possibly two had websites in English, the rest being in Japanese. I think that will eliminate those who are not determined, who typically are also the drunk, disorderly, uncooperative dumbasses. Also, postings to this list indicate that there are a huge number of DDUDs who read this list and are incapable of locating "Club RTFF" that others speak so highly of.Lion has called for a premium list only open to those who have proven themselves, possibly by invitation only. (e.g. those who aren't DDUD). I second that call, even if I'm not included.
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[QUOTE=Joinem]There are RTFF salons in many cities, not just in Japan, but worldwide!You can check for them on almost every forum!J[/QUOTE]Actually it started low profile, then as a japanese franchise, but with the globalization it expanded on the whole world.It looks that there are some also in thsoe countries not protecting brands or foreign trademarks.Still there is one country where RTFF does not seem to operate: Vatican City, but I would not bet on this.
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Just my 2 cents
So I know that AM gets a lot of air play here but I wanted to add my 2 cents. I was in Tokyo a long while ago (I'm lax in my reprting) and emailed Asian Mystique escorts.I asked for Rio. Everything went great Rio showed up EXACTLY on time. She is a bit "thick" around the mid section and legs but has an attractive (not beutiful) face and lovely long hair.She is a nice woman. Gives the best blow job I have ever had and when riding you cowboy does this wonderful hip movement thing thta I just loved. I really liked her and can't wait till I am back that way to give AM (and maybe Rio) another go.
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Tsubaki Nusty Dolls
I had the fortune and pleasure to be Tsubaki's first customer with ND. This was last month some time. Sorry I have been a bit busy, unable to post. Anyway I had wanted Emi, Yume or Kotomi but they were all unavailable. In the end I settled for Tsubaki even though there was no photo at that time. She actually arrived about 40 mins late (she forgot her wallet) which at the time was really annoying. I actually rang the agency and changed my plan from the 90 min to the 45min. However when she actually arrived, I changed my mind back again. It was worth the extra 40mins waiting & 2k i had to pay to extend my LH.Turns out she was rather nervous but after we took a shower, she seemed to have calmed down and went at it like a little minx.If you look at the photos now available, they're pretty accurate. She is slim, cute and petite. Very nice attitude. Very attentive. We started with a BBBJ, good technique, allowed CIM. Moved on to fingering then FS, multiple positions but wouldn't allow a-levels (said she was scared). She also speaks good English and I had a really good time with her. If it weren't for the fact that I want to try the other girls that I previously mentioned, I'd go back to her today. Actually I might try KDH at Uguisudani I hope they don't turn me down. Not to worry if they do though, since I can always go with Hono-bono or ND.Oh she said she lives in Meguro so... although I met her in Uguisuidani (if that's spelt correctly) it would probably be easier for you guys to meet her somewhere closer to Meguro.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Nah, you'd be included because you've contributed here. As you say, maybe my contributions are a bit too revealing but for the most part I tend to reveal more about places here which will probably go out of business, anyway, which BTW pertains to almost every Chinese esute, eventually.Remember Ueno Miharu? Right across from Keisei, gaijin-friendly, cheap FS, almost a prototype for the typical Chinese FS esute. I used to enjoy that place and was sad to see it go out of business. Fortunately, if you can use translation software, a little time and effort, you can probably find at least 100 of these esute in the Tokyo-Yokohama area. Some are going to be gaikokujin friendly, some are not. It's the legwork that makes the difference. One Saturday a few years ago, I spent an entire day and evening checking at least 50 esute around some rather insignificant stations (i.e. Ojima, Asakusabashi (not Asakusa), Kiba, Komagome, Omori, Kamata, etc.). I had a huge list and found at least 40% of them would offer me service. This means a 60% rejection rate. For some people, rejection is demoralizing. In this activity, I find it part of the job and not something to be taken personally.My list is pretty obsolete now. You can go to a-side or fuu-town and most of them have either shutdown, changed owners and names or don't accept gaikokujin anymore. You can search the phone numbers and they have been disconnected. My point is, the list will whither through attrition but the dumbasses are going to whither it further because of their behavior. My main point to anyone contributing here is to be aware that you're putting your hard work at risk.Do any of those places (the ones with no English webpages) listed on TPG even service gaikokujin anymore?[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Yes. I only posted those sites which have been openly discussed in this forum, or another open English-language forum (e.g. TPG). So I'm not revealing any secrets. I have locations that I don't share also. I'd say that many of your posts are more detailed and revealing than my list.Besides, of the places I listed, only one or possibly two had websites in English, the rest being in Japanese. I think that will eliminate those who are not determined, who typically are also the drunk, disorderly, uncooperative dumbasses. Also, postings to this list indicate that there are a huge number of DDUDs who read this list and are incapable of locating "Club RTFF" that others speak so highly of.Lion has called for a premium list only open to those who have proven themselves, possibly by invitation only. (e.g. those who aren't DDUD). I second that call, even if I'm not included.[/QUOTE]
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Emotion
Just got back home from Emotion. It was easy to find per the web site's directions. Anyway, had a terrible experience. Paid 6000 to the guy outside, nothing was communicated to me in Japanese or English regarding time or whether I would get one or two girls. Haru came. Presented me her business card. She has a big belly and sagging tits. She also has a loose pussy and BO (body odor). Terrible experience and rushed me, she did not even make me cum as she said no more time but I looked at my watch and it was only 10 minutes so I asked if another girl was coming and she said it was another 6000 yen. WTF? I rather just go the extra 15 mins ride to Sugamo.I will never go back again. I was cheated and discriminated, plain and simple. After all the talking and bitching, I got limp and just went home. Waste of time and money.
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Uguisudani
Not a report per-se, just thought it worth mentioning I was in the Uguisudani (or Ooogoo-eesu-dahni if you believe the announcements on the Yamanote line) love hotel area (with the [i]sefure[/i], the little minx) and couldn't help noticing there was no shortage of Asian (presumably Chinese) ladies of various ages propping up various buildings, though I presume their motives for being there were not purely architecturak. One was actually squatting on the floor in the entrance area of the selected establishment conducting some sort of mobile phone conversation, though she made a hasty exit. This was about 10pm. Not much change a couple of hours later. I didn't get a detailed look but I have seen much much worse in the way of streetwalkers.Hotel occupancy rates appeared pretty low, at least it was the first time I've found a room at the advertised minimum price in that kind of area at that time of night straight off the bat.
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Honobono Almond
Oh god. GOD! Today I went over to Uguisudani having done my homework, checked up on the internet. I had my top three choices which were from ChanceDH but they weren't even picking up the phone. Too early I guess (6pm). Rang my second choice agency: Hono-bono of which one girl I had been interested in from the photos was almond. According to the site she's supposed to be 24, but when she arrived she told me she was 30. Her physique was perhaps a 2/10, there were strange colorations and spots on her arms, legs, drooping boobs and flabby stomach and on top of that she had athletes foot.I didn't think I could send her away once her clothes were off. I certainly didn't want to cause any trouble. However I have to be completely honest I was physically repulsed by the lady's appearance. What's even worse was that it was an 80min session. The photos for this lady were totally fake, or over the last 6 years she has really really changed.I decided to brave it out. Service wasn't very good. CBJ. Poor technique, I was totally bored by the whole thing. She kept taking breaks even though she hadn't really been working very hard. In the end, we did doggy and I tried making excuses "I'm really tired. I have to go to work" etc. Trying to get her out the room so I could contact Emi or Tsubaki from ND.The best thing out of the whole experience was she insisted on burning the remaining time with a massage which lasted about an hour. There at least her technique was pretty good. I left feeling quite relaxed and refreshed. The only problem there is that I spent 20k getting a massage. Depressing!Before leaving, she saw my damaged nails (I bite them) and she felt compelled to paint over them with some cosmetic/substance. It was a nice gesture. I'd say maybe as a person she has a nice soul. However from an aesthetic point of view. Erm no no no! NO!I didn't get a chance to have emi or tsubaki, I was just too down in the mouth. Instead I thought I'd walk through kawasaki's soapy/booth place just to see what was happening. Booths were shut. I'd been curious and checked the place two days ago and also at the beginning of the week. I think they are well and truly shut down. Shame really. But oh well. I'm sure they'll be back someday.Tomorrow! I think I'll try Emi but if the experience is as bad as today's, I'm going to be royally cheesed off.
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[QUOTE=Homer69]Do any of those places (the ones with no English webpages) listed on TPG even service gaikokujin anymore?[/QUOTE]Well, of my list, the "freshness date" for the oldest listings was mid-June of this year; i.e. I had good information that as of at least mid-June this year, the listed places were accepting foreigners as customers. In some cases there were restrictions, the most common being that you had to speak enough Japanese to carry out the transaction, but all the places listed did take "gaijin." Yep, TPG does tend to attract even bigger jerks than we sometimes get here, and the turnover for places listed on TPG is shorter.
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The next station is OO/GOO/EE/SUE/DAH/NEE. That never fails to give me a chuckle. Anyway, 'ware the building proppers! The dim light is their ally and they like to bait and switch or upsell.There are two favorite lines from my experience. 1: you're gaijin so my boss says I have to charge you more. (but I didn (t bother to tell you in the street, LOL) 2: wow you are so much bigger than a japanese guy! I have to charge you more. (come on lady I'm not mandingo)As soon as you reach for your clothes or the door they change their tune.There are a very few passable women there. Most have been ridden hard and put away wet. Many have grungy teeth, a big turn off.There's a pretty hot Chinese woman there with big fake boobs. She seems straight up on her rates. I have never tried her though because she offers bare back service. Who knows what the hell she's got! Older korean woman (usually wears a pearl necklace and ear rings) and her sister. They're try to scam you for sure. On top of that, if they recognize you they'll follow you.Older japanese mamasan, says she has girls in a room nearby. Offers 3P for 25k. Smells like a scam, never tried it out.There were a few "regulars" a while back who seem to be gone now.[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Not a report per-se, just thought it worth mentioning I was in the Uguisudani (or Ooogoo-eesu-dahni if you believe the announcements on the Yamanote line) love hotel area (with the [i]sefure[/i], the little minx) and couldn't help noticing there was no shortage of Asian (presumably Chinese) ladies of various ages propping up various buildings, though I presume their motives for being there were not purely architecturak. One was actually squatting on the floor in the entrance area of the selected establishment conducting some sort of mobile phone conversation, though she made a hasty exit. This was about 10pm. Not much change a couple of hours later. I didn't get a detailed look but I have seen much much worse in the way of streetwalkers.Hotel occupancy rates appeared pretty low, at least it was the first time I've found a room at the advertised minimum price in that kind of area at that time of night straight off the bat.[/QUOTE]
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Are they waiting for deli calls?[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]Not a report per-se, just thought it worth mentioning I was in the Uguisudani (or Ooogoo-eesu-dahni if you believe the announcements on the Yamanote line) love hotel area (with the [i]sefure[/i], the little minx) and couldn't help noticing there was no shortage of Asian (presumably Chinese) ladies of various ages propping up various buildings, though I presume their motives for being there were not purely architecturak. One was actually squatting on the floor in the entrance area of the selected establishment conducting some sort of mobile phone conversation, though she made a hasty exit. This was about 10pm. Not much change a couple of hours later. I didn't get a detailed look but I have seen much much worse in the way of streetwalkers.Hotel occupancy rates appeared pretty low, at least it was the first time I've found a room at the advertised minimum price in that kind of area at that time of night straight off the bat.[/QUOTE]
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Pink Salon in Shinjuku, BBBJ
Maybe alreaqy been posted, just want to add more directions and how my experience was.Hinomaru, Pink Salon. Sofas on a row whre the girl and you sit, sometimes ther migth be some other people in other sofas, I: m ok with it.This is a place that does BBBJ, but sometimes at early morning they also do FS.Very good and very gaijin friendly, was there twice yesterday. One FS in the morning (7AM) and one BBBJ at 7PM.The one in the morning was 20 minutes for 4000 YEN, no picking girl.The one at night was 40 minutes for 8000 YEN, where I picked the girl.She knew here stuff, it was a long time ago I came so hard.Very easy to find, I]m posting the adress in japanese, ? 2? 36-3, paste it in under maps. Google.com and also look at the street view.And please remember the spelling, very big sign of the place.? And buy a compass, makes life easier, east exit at shinjuku and head north.Just say that the Swede sent you.Also search google for hinomaru reviews, etc to Recommended.Please enjoy.
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Yuffei-Almond
Many thanks for your excellent report. I have been watching the site as of late and noticed Almond works almost every day from midnight (sometimes as early as 1 PM) to 4 AM. She must be worn out if she gets any business. And surely she does because she looks great on the site.I think one of the keys to Honobono is to keep an eye on the schedule and try to connect with a nice looking girl who is a part timer. There are several who work almost every day who I would probably keep away from because it is their full time job.
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[QUOTE=Yuffei]Oh god. GOD! I didn't think I could send her away once her clothes were off. I certainly didn't want to cause any trouble. However I have to be completely honest I was physically repulsed by the lady's appearance. What's even worse was that it was an 80min session. The photos for this lady were totally fake, or over the last 6 years she has really really changed.[/QUOTE]Not to lecture here, but it seems you (and actually many other guys for sure), need to be a bit stronger in this situation. Waiting another 15-30 minutes might be frustrating, but it will be worth it if the girl you are spending 15,000-20,000 on is to your liking and not a charity fuck you are paying for.Guys really need to let the big head talk once in a while. Accepting a girl or shooting her down is your option with DH. Not taking the option when you are given someone unacceptable hurts all of us, as the management won't get the hint.Fake photos are acceptable IF the girl they send isn't bad, but if you feel repulsed, then do yourself (and everyone) a favor and just say NO.
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[QUOTE=Hanamizu]The next station is OO/GOO/EE/SUE/DAH/NEE. That never fails to give me a chuckle. Anyway, 'ware the building proppers! The dim light is their ally and they like to bait and switch or upsell.There are two favorite lines from my experience. 1: you're gaijin so my boss says I have to charge you more. (but I didn (t bother to tell you in the street, LOL) 2: wow you are so much bigger than a japanese guy! I have to charge you more. (come on lady I'm not mandingo)As soon as you reach for your clothes or the door they change their tune.There are a very few passable women there. Most have been ridden hard and put away wet. Many have grungy teeth, a big turn off.There's a pretty hot Chinese woman there with big fake boobs. She seems straight up on her rates. I have never tried her though because she offers bare back service. Who knows what the hell she's got! Older korean woman (usually wears a pearl necklace and ear rings) and her sister. They're try to scam you for sure. On top of that, if they recognize you they'll follow you.Older japanese mamasan, says she has girls in a room nearby. Offers 3P for 25k. Smells like a scam, never tried it out.There were a few "regulars" a while back who seem to be gone now.[/QUOTE]Uurgh, good thing I had no need to go for a closer look then ;).
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Rejection of an Undesireable
LionThat is not a lecture. It is good sound advice. The house will have to comply if they want your money.
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Lion, don't worry about the lecture, it's a matter of personal choice. I feel you just have to do it without offending anyone so they lose face. It's the reason I never send guys to NYNY or any of their sister shops. I did it once with a young co-worker (from the UK) and he was really pretty disappointed in getting service from a lady who was his grandmother's age. He said the service was OK but the lady was just too old and too unattractive for his taste. It's like Osaka Fats and Freajia in Osaka. You get what you pay for and it's not for young, horny guys. It's better to send them to a Chinese FS esute.[QUOTE=Lion]Not to lecture here, but it seems you (and actually many other guys for sure), need to be a bit stronger in this situation. Waiting another 15-30 minutes might be frustrating, but it will be worth it if the girl you are spending 15,000-20,000 on is to your liking and not a charity fuck you are paying for.Guys really need to let the big head talk once in a while. Accepting a girl or shooting her down is your option with DH. Not taking the option when you are given someone unacceptable hurts all of us, as the management won't get the hint.Fake photos are acceptable IF the girl they send isn't bad, but if you feel repulsed, then do yourself (and everyone) a favor and just say NO.[/QUOTE]
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Nasty Dolls
[QUOTE=Yuffei]I had the fortune and pleasure to be Tsubaki's first customer with ND. This was last month some time. Sorry I have been a bit busy, unable to post. Anyway I had wanted Emi, Yume or Kotomi but they were all unavailable. In the end I settled for Tsubaki even though there was no photo at that time. She actually arrived about 40 mins late (she forgot her wallet) which at the time was really annoying. I actually rang the agency and changed my plan from the 90 min to the 45min. However when she actually arrived, I changed my mind back again. It was worth the extra 40mins waiting & 2k i had to pay to extend my LH.Turns out she was rather nervous but after we took a shower, she seemed to have calmed down and went at it like a little minx.If you look at the photos now available, they're pretty accurate. She is slim, cute and petite. Very nice attitude. Very attentive. We started with a BBBJ, good technique, allowed CIM. Moved on to fingering then FS, multiple positions but wouldn't allow a-levels (said she was scared). She also speaks good English and I had a really good time with her. If it weren't for the fact that I want to try the other girls that I previously mentioned, I'd go back to her today. Actually I might try KDH at Uguisudani I hope they don't turn me down. Not to worry if they do though, since I can always go with Hono-bono or ND.Oh she said she lives in Meguro so... although I met her in Uguisuidani (if that's spelt correctly) it would probably be easier for you guys to meet her somewhere closer to Meguro.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Similar experience overnight - the girl apparently speaks French even better than English (studied art 4 years there)- but my experience is for more reluctance with both a-level and bj (I had to stay covered, maybe just got unlucky day) otherwise good conversation and good sex (lots of it).
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Woa woa
Hold on a tick. Did you say she gave you a-levels? How'd you get that? I asked and she wasn't up for it at all. Mind you I suppose you had the overnight package? So. Maybe that gets you extra? Hmmm.[QUOTE=Shirokyu]Similar experience overnight - the girl apparently speaks French even better than English (studied art 4 years there)- but my experience is for more reluctance with both a-level and bj (I had to stay covered, maybe just got unlucky day) otherwise good conversation and good sex (lots of it).[/QUOTE]
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What you're saying is fair enough, but the woman in question spoke English, and I didn't feel comfortable calling up the Agency and telling him point blank on the phone that the woman was disgustingly ugly.[QUOTE=Lion]Not to lecture here, but it seems you (and actually many other guys for sure), need to be a bit stronger in this situation. Waiting another 15-30 minutes might be frustrating, but it will be worth it if the girl you are spending 15,000-20,000 on is to your liking and not a charity fuck you are paying for.Guys really need to let the big head talk once in a while. Accepting a girl or shooting her down is your option with DH. Not taking the option when you are given someone unacceptable hurts all of us, as the management won't get the hint.Fake photos are acceptable IF the girl they send isn't bad, but if you feel repulsed, then do yourself (and everyone) a favor and just say NO.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Homer69]Lion, don't worry about the lecture, it's a matter of personal choice. I feel you just have to do it without offending anyone so they lose face. It's the reason I never send guys to NYNY or any of their sister shops. I did it once with a young co-worker (from the UK) and he was really pretty disappointed in getting service from a lady who was his grandmother's age. He said the service was OK but the lady was just too old and too unattractive for his taste. It's like Osaka Fats and Freajia in Osaka. You get what you pay for and it's not for young, horny guys. It's better to send them to a Chinese FS esute.[/QUOTE]I agree about the choice part, but bait and switch is another case. We know that in most Japanese places you get what you pay for, and the picts are less doctured. Cheap=Old, Expensive=Young.The KDH websites however promise very attractive girls, but the ones they send out can range from 5-10. I agree being kind is important, but these are working girls who understand that if you say they are not your type, then I am sure they won't loose too much face. Most companies will send replacements efficiently, as they want your money and know there are many other places you can call.I'll accept a switch if the replacement is to my liking, but as Yuffei was "repulsed", he really should not have paid. However the decision needs to be made before the clothes come off, no doubt.
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Kamiyamada Onsen
[QUOTE=Kerfuffle]So, without having direct prior experience of checking out that particular local scene, I could see it as a potentially memorable and interesting tourism activity, with assurance of onsen relaxation and some drinks on tap, and the other monger-play stuff just being gravy, if everything fell into place.[/QUOTE]Kamiyamada OnsenRevisiting the topic for the benefit of Tokyo denizens, I visited Kamiyamada Onsen (Togura Station, a 16-minute ride on the Shinano Line about four stops from Ueda Station after coming on the Shinkansen from Tokyo), to check out the scene. I found it comparable money-wise.- and even better in terms of quality and variety of providers on offer that you can check out in person (instead of a photoshopped website or photos you might be shown before entering a shop) as well as in terms of the monetary outlay and duration of p4p. Without giving away too many of my secrets, I am sure the majime/persevering types in Japan can easily fill in the blanks to secure any needed info.Do the math: Despite some posters still-glowing reports about AM and its offshoot girls-gone-independent, and similar agencies at which you may or may not get FS (and if you do, you often have to pay extra).- you have to admit they reflect varying at best, and disappointing at worst, experiences (*at the very least, * 35, 000 yen plus hotel); the variable or high rejection rates at other, desirable service providers (or at least the ones you know you'd like to try but feel you never would be allowed to as a gaijin); down to the generally positive KDH to be had for slightly less money; and the even less expensive Chinese esthes.Set all that aside. I submit to you the following: 5,000-6,000 yen from a discount ticket shop for a reserved seat each way on the Shinkansen from Tokyo or Omiya to Ueda (60-75 minute ride), plus 330 yen each way from Ueda to Togura on the local train (15-16 more minutes). Advance Internet reservations can secure a 5,000 per night room including breakfast at a clean, large national business hotel chain located **RIGHT ON THE CUSP** (er, it starts right on the next block) of the Kamiyamada Onsen "entertainment district." Cursory 3, 000 fee to enter one of at least a couple hundred drinking establishments for 60-90 minutes nomihodai, plus 1, 000-2,000 per drink that you should be a polite, non-pennypinching guy to buy for the lady who interests you (and her bar Mama, if necessary).- at this time you get lubricated (alcoholically, if you like, or stick to soft drinks if you must, though the la). You can either keep drinking, or get down to p4p business. Fees for recreational activities that follow.- as well as the general description and characterizatiion of the district and the ladies therein.- are correct, as were given by the Jitsuwa Knuckles article posted earlier in relation to this topic.Further tips: Stay at that hotel mentioned above, particularly its annex building, which has the cheaper room rates and is separate from the main building where the front desk is located. Despite a security camera at its entrance and an advisory in the hotel info packet in the room's desk drawer requesting guests to meet any visitors in the lobby, no issues were encountered for a single-room traveler wishing to bring a visitor to the room. If you stay at one of the town's numerous ryokan, or, and here I am guesssing, maybe even other business hotels, you likely won't be able to bring back visitors, who in their quest for business won't even try to go to a ryokan and will likely try to steer you instead to the district's only LH within walking distance (not sure about any others within driving distance), which a cursory stroll revealed to be a bit run-down (sort of like a small motel of the Motel 6 variety and also costing 4,500-5,000 yen for a stay) and completely unlike the spacious, clean, modern and spoilt-for-choice LHs we have in Tokyo). Saturday night seemed to be more lively.- snacks open from about 8 pm Until 2 am .- while Sunday some shut down at midnight. Don't know about other days of the week. Good food there in the district (and especially elsewhere in town from regular restaurants earlier in the day and evening). Overall, rather fetching options to be had.At any rate, it might not be everyone's cup of tea, but if you have the time (if you've read this far you obviously have the money), I maintain it's an interesting, viable option given the cleanup campaigns over the past few years in and around Tokyo.Happy hunting![size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Ueno
Of late, seems most of the Chinese este in Ueno are unnamed though touts everywhere around the area of Champs DElysees/NYNY. Standard is 10,000 Yen for FS and all have been more than satisfactory. A few seem to move around the area as the same mama-sans occasionally re-appear.
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Those touts seem to come and go. I've never taken them up on it because I'm usually there for a bath at NYNY. They always caution me that I'll get obaasan (grandmotherly) ladies there. It's comical to talk to them about this. I like to ask them (in Japanese, of course), "How old? 30-something or 40-something?" They get very animated and say, "Older, more older." And then I say, "50-something???" and they come back and say, "Sometimes, probably, older, please try one of my ladies. They are much younger and more cute" I then ask about FS and they affirm, "Yes, of course," using gestures to get the point across. Do you think they are unnamed now due to crackdowns by LE?[QUOTE=Kanda]Of late, seems most of the Chinese este in Ueno are unnamed though touts everywhere around the area of Champs DElysees/NYNY. Standard is 10,000 Yen for FS and all have been more than satisfactory. A few seem to move around the area as the same mama-sans occasionally re-appear.[/QUOTE]
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Yet another AM report: Aika
The Economy must be bad, or maybe its because of Oban Week, but for whatever reason Asian Mystique is offering discounts through the 16th of Aug. Well, never one to turn down a discount decided to see who was available. Long list of girls available last night, biz must be slow. Anyway decided to try Aika. As others have mentioned, she is FAR more attractive then the photos on AM's website, she has lost considerable wieght, I certainly would not call her thin by Japanese standards, thick might be a good adjective. Her tits are no where near and ecup hahahaha Her boobs are actually on the small side (they look bigger on the AM pics) so if your looking for giant tits, look elsewhere. So down to the details. This was way more of GFE then I wanted. Now, don't get me wrong, Aika is very pleasant and interesting to speak with, but last night I was looking for some solid sex, not a lot of converstation. I had the 3 hour course (the discount was 5000 yen) We spent about an hour and 1/2 talking music, world travel etc etc, she was sitting on my lap, cuddling, kissing etc. Now again, ordianarily I like this kind of warm-up, prior to the deed, but last night it I felt like I was clock watching and just wanted to get her naked as fast as possible. I made several overatures towards begining the Act. And each time she very cleverly got me talking again. Her English is flawless, which was nice, as my Japanese sucks. So anyway, about 1 hour and 45 into the apointment we showered up and went to bed. Again a very very good GFE, LFK, lots of touching, caress etc, She really did make me feel like we were a true couple. She has nice pussy, pretty tight, she does have a landing strip of the typical long, straight Japanese Pubes, which too me is kind of a turn-off, but other than that her body is nice, again I would NOT call her fat or chubby don't let those pics on AM fool you. There was no BJ, and I didn't ask, and an odd thing, when I was ready to mount up. She handed me the condom, and I put it on. Interesting, first time I was ever with a pro that didn't suit the little-Ranger. In any case, the sex was good, Aika has tiny little feet which is a HUGE turn on for me, and she was not shy at all about letting me caress them, and kiss them while I was nailing her. She was also cool with varied postions, although she said that my dick was too big for her be comfortable in doggy (yeah right) but mish, CG, RVGC, all good. It was good sex, felt like I was with a girl Iwas dataing, certainly not rushed or awkward, I think the long talk and cuddle before made us both more comfortable with each other.In Conclusion, Aika, very, very GFE. If you are into this, and don't want just 2 hours of slaming away I would recomend her, highly. I started being a bit irritated by the encounter, but in retrospect it was fine, and the GFE thing probably made the sex better. Once Again AM delivers.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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D-Cup info
I stopped by D-Cup in Shimbashi this week. There was only one guy at the desk this time, and he was pretty cool. Basically the girl I was willing to settle for had the day off, but we got to talking. Apparently there are very few girls who work there who are not "pass" -- his expression for girls who "pass" on foreigners, uttered while showing the "X" ([i]batsu[/i]) with his fingers. So I asked him to jot down those girls who are not "pass". The list:1. Chihiro - she has been covered in this forum; I've had her, and she is adequate although unspectacular2. Kaori - from the picture, not my thing; a bit older, a little bit of weight3. Miku - from the picture, not bad; I might be tempted to try her another timeNote the pictures he showed at the front desk show the girls' faces, while the web site and the waiting room have the faces blurred out. Cuteness-wise, I'd rank them Miku, Chihiro, Kaori.There may have been one other girl working today who was also foreigner-OK, but otherwise that seems to be it from among all of the staff there. A bit discouraging, although about par for the course in Tokyo. Hope this helps someone.ES
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foxy - escort
I know the price is well.. pricey at 50k for 90 minutes, but I have decided that usually the more you pay, the better the service.I haven't found any reviews for this service, and I was wondering if anyone would like to chip in some of their experience before I spend 50k to find out whether this service is a dud or not.Anyway they are called: Foxy [url]http://www.foxy-tokyo.com/girls/[/url]Hope someone replies.
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Looks risky
[QUOTE=Yuffei]I know the price is well.. pricey at 50k for 90 minutes, but I have decided that usually the more you pay, the better the service.I haven't found any reviews for this service, and I was wondering if anyone would like to chip in some of their experience before I spend 50k to find out whether this service is a dud or not.Anyway they are called: Foxy [url]http://www.foxy-tokyo.com/girls/[/url]Hope someone replies.[/QUOTE]Well, to me, it looks like a 'tourist trap' The wording and language on the web site looks like 'gaijin rip off' for 500 bucks those chicks better be good! Also note the 'our models do not perform immoral or illegal acts' Also this place as been around for at least 9 years, and not one report on ISG? Odd, very odd. In any case, if you go for it, good luck! And let us know! DH
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News info & why KDH girls short you on your time
For the more well read/investigate-before-purchasing members of the board I thought this would be an enlightening link to post:"Japan promised land for S. Korean prostitutes"[url]http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200908130066.html[/url]I would ask that you note in the story the part about the management of these women telling them how much they can make in "the shortest amount of time possible." This has totally been my experience. Tried korean deli twice recently and both times the women shorted me on my time by at least an hour (I'm not a trouble maker, so I just stopped using korean deli rather than complain), they spoke no english OR japanese making communication almost impossible. Both times I paid around 30,000yen for what essentially turned out to be about 30-40 minutes. Just thought you guys should know that opposed to other providers in japan who actually do what they advertise, the korean deli girls are mostly being instructed to short you on your time if at all possible. If the girls looked remotely like their hot-as-hell photos I might call it even, but they usually look nothing like the pics and rank about as low as some broke-down plain jane you would normally be able to pick up off the grimy street in a redlight district. Some may downgrade gaijin-heavy places like asian mystique, but at least those women actually make an attempt to give you all the time you paid for.
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[QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07] Tried korean deli twice recently and both times the women shorted me on my time by at least an hour (I'm not a trouble maker, so I just stopped using korean deli rather than complain), they spoke no english OR japanese making communication almost impossible. Both times I paid around 30,000yen for what essentially turned out to be about 30-40 minutes.[/QUOTE]Great post, JoeJoe. That's been my experience as well. I've gone the KDH route more than a few times and the girl always has at least one eye on her watch. If they weren't so great looking and gaijin friendly, I think I could probably kick the habit.
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[QUOTE=Yuffei]I know the price is well.. pricey at 50k for 90 minutes, but I have decided that usually the more you pay, the better the service.[/QUOTE]From my experience, it's totally wrong but if you have 50k to spend.
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This article is chilling. It doesn't explain the root of the problem, where this crusade really comes from and how the yakaza feel about getting their income sources squeezed.[QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07]For the more well read/investigate-before-purchasing members of the board I thought this would be an enlightening link to post:"Japan promised land for S. Korean prostitutes"[url]http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200908130066.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07]I would ask that you note in the story the part about the management of these women telling them how much they can make in "the shortest amount of time possible." This has totally been my experience. Tried korean deli twice recently and both times the women shorted me on my time by at least an hour (I'm not a trouble maker, so I just stopped using korean deli rather than complain), they spoke no english OR japanese making communication almost impossible. Both times I paid around 30,000yen for what essentially turned out to be about 30-40 minutes. Just thought you guys should know that opposed to other providers in japan who actually do what they advertise, the korean deli girls are mostly being instructed to short you on your time if at all possible. If the girls looked remotely like their hot-as-hell photos I might call it even, but they usually look nothing like the pics and rank about as low as some broke-down plain jane you would normally be able to pick up off the grimy street in a redlight district. Some may downgrade gaijin-heavy places like asian mystique, but at least those women actually make an attempt to give you all the time you paid for.[/QUOTE]I've used KDH quite a number of times, and this hasn't been my experience at all. Every girl I have gotten from a KDH spoke Japanese well enough to communicate, they've never shorted me on time, and they've always been accommodating. A few have looked worn out, but most were upbeat and cheery. In fact, I specifically remember one doing a little skip on the way to the shower with me.Some KDH places will even have you talk with them on the phone afterwards (via the girls phone) to make sure you were satisfied. Now, I'm not saying that you're lying, but I do think you're generalizing. If you search around you'll find many KDH places are amazing. The girls aren't maltreated, and all in all it's a wonderful alternative to some of the other places here in Japan.
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KDH time issue
Zcorps, Of course my opinion is a generalization (as they say, user results may vary), everyone's opinion is a generalization, unless they are conducting a scientific study. But of my korean deli experiences, I picked two of the top ones out there, so I feel I have a great sample. Also, after each session the mama-san was put on the phone to ask me my opinion and I regrettably told the mama-san that everything was OK (mainly because I diligently avoid any trouble or negative vibes/actions when doing p4p). If I was in the USA (my home turf where I know all the angles, laws and possibilities of such situations) and I was being honest with the mama-san I would tell her that I felt cheated, straight up.If you have had good experiences with kdh, then you are fortunate. Personally I would never tell anyone I considered a friend to patronize the kdh services out there. IF you simply want a change from japanese/Chinese, and aren't concerned about getting your time-for-money's worth, then sure it can be ok. But none of the kdh girls rocked my world 'that' much to get me to ignore the money-for-time issue.Caveat: Perhaps my standards come from the fact that I've had some GREAT experiences in japan with p4p with genki girls who gave me all my time (in fact, sometimes "I" was the one who wanted to cut it short simply to get some rest).So far my ratings (yes, Generalizations! ) go as follows:. Chinese p4p: almost always a rip off. If not a rip-off, usually a worn out hag. I imagine the Chinese p4p girls in shanghai are MUCH better.-Korean p4p: pretty cute girls, usually will get your rocks off, but service is expensive compared to other options in japan. Never had an 'amazing' experience with them.-Thai p4p: haven't tried it in japan. Figure if I'm gonna go that route might as well spend an extra 200bucks and just sample the real Bangkok action nearby.-Filipino p4p: haven't found any but would love to try it. If anyone has any recommendations please post.-Gaijin (Russian, eastern european, etc.) p4p: Umm, just don't do it. Better off using the same cash to book a ticket back to the USA Or europe and dealing with local talent.-Japanese p4p: great-to-good-to-bad all over, but my usual experience has been that good service was always their chief concern, in which case I can forgive many things. So when it's great, it's REALLY great. And when it's bad, it's basically a passable experience and not expensive, so I call it even.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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No no !
[QUOTE=Yuffei]Hold on a tick. Did you say she gave you a-levels? How'd you get that? I asked and she wasn't up for it at all. Mind you I suppose you had the overnight package? So. Maybe that gets you extra? Hmmm.[/QUOTE]I mean it was not even close - I got less not more, no bbj, cbj. But I guess i got lots of it. We spoke about Dancer in the Dark (the movie) actually quite brainy girl - artsy type but not artificially so. But less shy about the boundaries than the first time even for overnight.
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Nasty Dolls - Sakura
Manami cancelled on me! (the Tokyo legend got sick). So I tried Sakura from ND overnight. Overall experience was good. The girl is beautiful. Has a toned body, very dark hair, pussy was shaved neatly leaving just one brush of hair. She used to be an hostess in Roppongi bars. Sometime when you do not see faces in pics this is the reason, but here this is probably so she can have a day job (she does some work in a gallery during the day).Technique is very good, BBBJ and. An invigorating vaginal grip! My spilling the beans on this grip may get her good attention, that she deserves but if you want to go for it, I would recommend something shorter than overnight. Sakura got a bit leasy and playing the watch after a while ("she has a day job and needs some rest"). So probably if you want something long it is better to have one chunk and extend. With ND about half of your money goes to the girl / I think this is less than AM, maybe the incentives are not enough (though the girls like their mama-san, and "there is no initiation like at am". Not sure what that is, but curious to know if any of you do, but maybe this is just the local rumor mill).Conversation is good. Not quite like Tsubaki (my other experience at ND). But here you are comparing a Ginza and roppongi hostess I guess. In any case, the girl is not stupid or ignorant of the world at all ("Yes, the Annie Leibowitz pics of Lennon and Yoko Ono just before he got shot" (! )). Indeed. She carries a small notebook. If she ears a new music that interests her she will take some notes.Overall I recommend Sakura, be ready to ask what you want.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Mind you webcam ! A rare, bad Club Boo experience
This happened quite some time ago. And I have been quite reluctant for some time to talk about it. My experience in Japan has been mostly great so do not generalize from this report. However I feel I need to share this with fellow mongers as this is probably not that common an experience. Bad experience at Club Boo. With Akubi but mostly because of the Club not the girl (maybe a bit the girl).This was my first time with club boo. The girls from AM I like were not available. I have to say this is my first bad experience ever. Japan is usually very smooth. I ordered overnight from Club Boo, because this is what I usually do. This seemed to make sense here as I had no interest in haggling, transacting and topping up or calling mama in the middle of the session.The first thing I had there is the response that "the club" did not think it is a good idea. That I should not take overnight for a first session. I was told to take a few hours and decide later. I ordered Marina first but she got I'll just before coming, switched to Akubi after the recommandation from mama-san that she had a pretty face. Akubi came, pretty face is not really a candid characterisation, but she is ok, and had this totally Japanese attitude that is actually cute. She is a trouper. I told her I basically wanted overnight and pay JPY 150 000. That she could deal with things. If things did not work out we make it shorter. Akubi calls Mama-san has a cute way to put herself on her toes when she talks to Mama-san. My thing was not going to work as rather than buffering things between me and the club she was straight through. A bit annoying but she is basically a very serious by the book girl- and cultural differences are here at work- I just respect the attitude and move on. My simple transaction was not going to be and we had to do 2 about equal amount of money see took JPY 70 000 and left JPY 80 000. The reason being that if money is received by the girl it is never coming back. And no, common sense does not matter (as you will see later).Performance was decent and accurately described by Azure Knight, lots of HJ in BJ. Lots of washing teeth, shower etc. Very by the book. This is a routine. No need to fight it. Thankfully I did not experience the same problem as AK but it got close. 3 pops later took something to eat, moved room. Akubi is a pre-school teacher and does not like technical things, she defines herself as analog woman. The only peace of electronics she likes is the iPod.I found this sweet and probably the best compliment you could make to Apple. I confirm I want the full night. She calls mama-san, transaction. She takes the 80 000 JPY. We make out a few minutes in the new room. She is a bit cold, I bring her a comforter.Then she sees the webcam in the room. This is when things turn for the worse. Much worse.Apparently Akubi had a previous bad experience with being filmed. When she saw my webcam it was instant shivers, and game over instantly. I showed her it is hooked up to a computer that is basically turned off, but to no avail. Being Analog woman she gets no comfort from my explanations. I am stupid to have made out not too far from the device but it simply. Silly me. Did not even occurred to me. This was the end. At this point Akubi would be basically incapable to continue any kind of session. This is not played, just sincere if annoying. There was just nothing I could do. She calls Mama-san to seal the deal.I do not resist too much even I have not done a thing, if she cannot continue, we should cut the meeting short. I figured further rational explanation would not help (even the common sense "who would wants to film through a comforter? " I say that what ever she feels nothing happened, and that this thing basically ruined what was sofar for me a fun evening. She should just take the money she deserves and go. Akubi. You could feel. Was just emotional and would do whatever ordered by mama-san.The order came: "Keep everything and go! "Wow! That was pretty unfair given only little time had passed and I told her. She probably instinctively knew that, because her first reaction was. "If you want we can call the police! " grabbing her ketai "ready" to dial. Wow, again! I knew that was probably a bluff, or a least I this was my thinking at the time. But what is the point of calling it? All in all I had no willingness to let the evening slide further downhill from here, this was going to be the low of the evening, I decided to let her go. She did,. With my 150 000 JPY.Combination of very frustrating things, more than my idiocy the impossibility to rationally sort things out, compounded with Akubi's oversensitivity around privacy issues (she does not have her face on the web), . But the mama-san dogmatism topped it all that evening. I also got no answer to my email when I explained the situation to them.This said no more than when she threatened to call the police do I want to crush the girl. She is totally doing what she is told to do, and abstracting from the incident (! ), she was basically ok, and capable of a simple GFE. I can see how miscommunication compounds, but overall my evening could have been better for the money.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Tokyojoejoe07]"Japan promised land for S. Korean prostitutes"[url]http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200908130066.html[/url][/QUOTE]Exactly the same thing was happening 50 years ago, Korea supplying comfort women to Japan.
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Nasty Dolls
Due to the mystifying drop in quality from other services I have been giving ND a try. Here are my experiences...Junko: tall with a pretty face and knockout body. yes, they are fake but look and feel great. she came wearing a classy bra and thong underneath which is always appreciated. overall she was very friendly and it was a fun session. would repeat. Shizuka: sweet girl, but it`s really not my job to train them. gomennasai!Tsubaki: now this girl was a surprise. she`s not the best looking but has a super attitude. arriving stylishly dressed, she provides a passionate and naughty GFE, curling up afterward like a kitten. worth a full 2 hrs and definite repeat.Sakura: young, sharp and cute with a perky body. she was very responsive and had solid technique but felt her manner was just a bit too business-like. OK if you`re not looking for GFE.
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Shut your pie hole!
[quote=japanguy]exactly the same thing was happening 50 years ago, korea supplying comfort women to japan.[/quote]wtf are you talking about!?!?!?! how can you compare the two situations? you are a f*cking idiot!1 - 50 years ago, japan was rebuilding from wwii. comfort women were recruited to serve the military during wwii more like 65-70 years ago.besides that:2 - comfort women were kidnapped, forcibly recruited, or duped into their service.3 - once they were in the brothels they were either raped or killed if they refused to service the men. most likely both were going to happen even if they complied.4 - estimates of survival rate of the comfort women are around 25% during their service.now the girls that are coming over here from korea today:1 - they know exactly what they are coming to do.2 - they keep their passports and have to return to korea in 3 months.3 - they are earning a pretty healthy sum of money while they are here that they take back home.4 - many of the girls find the whole thing lucrative enough that they choose to return several more times.if i'm over-reacting to an off-the-cuff remark, that is just too bad! you are comparing systematic sexual slavery and a violation of human rights to a voluntary business undertaking.either your remark was a joke - in which case it was in poor taste and an utter waste of bandwidth; or you truly believe this is an accurate comparison. in which case i have to wonder about your sanity. either way, i find your post offensive and idiotic! keep it to yourself next time!!
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Was about to answer something quite similar. Just that I was looking for a more diplomatic way, but after all I couldn't agree more with Matsu.
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Craigs List Ad - English blond, Massage and more, 27
Took one for the team today. tried this Craigs list ad.[url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/1324240964.html[/url]She advertised 3 hours for 25000 yen. She did deliver the goods for round one (BBBJ). However, while starting to get ready for round 2, about 45 minutes into the session, she suddenly said she had to leave, got dressed and was gone within 1 minute.
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[QUOTE=Matsu69]WTF are you talking about!?!?!?! How can you compare the two situations? You are a f*cking idiot![/QUOTE]Actually I've interviewed returned Japanese soldiers from China and Burma. Have you?
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[QUOTE=Japanguy]Actually I've interviewed returned Japanese soldiers from China and Burma.[/QUOTE]And those returned Japanese soldiers from China and Burma told you that back in the day the Korean comfort women were coming over to Japan on short term student or holiday visas, working for 3 or so months and then going back to Korea when they were done. And sometimes coming back for another round? And you believed them? You are an [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] . I'm sure there were some sex workers coming of their own free will from various other Asian countries at the time, but these are not what people mean when they use the expression 'comfort women.'[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any [u]personal attacks or derogatory comments[/u] directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.[/blue][/size]
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Reports
Can we get back to using this forum for the intended purpose rather than flaming each other over the delicate historical sensibilities of *****mongers?
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Pig...
[QUOTE=Shatneresque]Took one for the team today. tried this Craigs list ad.[/QUOTE]You are a brave man! From the photo and description. She looks like a pig and about the same size. She's been posting the same ad about every three days for the last few weeks.
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Narita Chinese FS Esute options
Here are some options for international people staying near Narita Airport.[url]http://yume-rikyu.com/index_pc.php[/url][url]http://www.sakuranbo-n.com/[/url][url]http://www.n-poison.com/[/url][url]http://www.n-madonna.com/[/url][url]http://narida-golden.com/[/url]These are all pretty shabby little apartment esutes, with what seems to be illegal immigrant Chinese girls, but they are all gaijin-friendly, and the price is right. Just look at the websites for the maps, or call the telephone numbers and get directions (you will have to speak some Japanese). Walk in, pick a girl from the photo, and off you go.
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Deai Cafes
[QUOTE=Xslikx]Hey Ultra Gaijin, thanks for this post. There have been 2 or 3 other posts on this club (also spelled Kilala), but this is the first one that lays out the logistics, various pricing, etc. Do you mind saying what your good reasons are for believing that all deai cafes operate in the same way? The reason I ask is that the most important thing when I p4p is that the girl be really HOT and secondarily that I can get some sense of her personality before I decide on her. (That's why lately I've been almost exclusively using Tobita, Kawazaki, type places. I can walk around a lot, decide who are the really hot girls, flirt with them, gets some sense of how playful they will be, etc. Of course, some of them are good actors, but I make them put a bit of effort into getting me to come into their shop and it usually translates into a fun time for all.) These deai places seem like they provide a good way to see if the girls are hot, and then you can chat for a bit to see if you click. Any idea how many times you can send the girls back? etc. Also, how did you and the girl decide on the price? Was 25,000 her starting quote? etc.[/QUOTE]Sorry it took me so long to get back to you-- as you might imagine, I can't access this site at work, and it's hard for me to access it many other places. I have been to several deai cafes since my first post, and they all operate basically the same way-- you pay about Y1000 for a "joining fee", and then about Y5000 for an "entrance fee", to get into the cafe itself. Then you are seated in a "men's area", separate from where the women are, and you get to view several waiting women-- usually through a one-way mirror, sometimes there is just glass or even open space. The girls run the gamut-- a lot of them look to be ordinary girls, who just had nothing to do and are in need of some money, others look to be hardened pros (who show up day in and day out). They are all there to hook, however. You get to take any girl you select into a "talk room", where you get to talk to her for about 10 minutes. It rarely takes the full 10 minutes, because you just name a price and the girl is good to go. I named a price, Y20,000, and none of the girls refused it, so that may be a little bit high. You could probably get away with offering a little less. The girls' service varies as well, depending on their experience and enthusiasm. Sometimes they are enthusiastic amateurs, sometimes bored professionals-- you have to check out which is which during the talk time. You can "talk" to as many girls as you wish, one by one. I get the feeling that the staff starts pressuring you to choose one girl after a few tries, because all the girls will say yes to money, so you should pretty much know which one you want and ask to talk to her. The girl I chose had a favorite love hotel, so I guess she knew the ropes. Most of the girls have their favorite love hotel, and know the ropes. But as you mentioned, this is a great way to meet "semi-pro" and even "amateur" girls, and get to know them a little before agreeing to pay for them. hope that helps.
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Thank You
[QUOTE=Shatneresque]I'm not sure brave is the right word. Really stupid might be a better choice.[/QUOTE]I do not agree. From our perspective what you did is good -- explore and report. Maybe just maybe this good have been the best sex deal in town and an honest deal - thanks to you we know it is not - Thank You for sharing and as you say "Taking one for the team." I do not think we want to create a climate were people do not report their bad experiences -- this is useful to all of us.
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Otokonorakuen--Chinese FS Esute in Takadanobaba
Here is another Chinese esute FS option, for those of us who still miss Paprika. It is basically very similar to Tokyo SPM, on which I reported earlier-- same shabby apartments, pick a Chinese girl from photos, take a shower, FS, perfunctory massage.I wasn't sure I would get into this place. Here are the directions: Go to Takadanobaba station on the JR line. Go out the Waseda exit. I believe the main street passing in front of you is Waseda-dori. Take a left, and walk straight along the main street, for four traffic lights. On your left, there should be a "104" pachinko parlor. Cross the street at the light, and there should be a Morioka reimen shop there. To the right of the Morioka reimen shop, there should be an ABC Ramen store. Between the Morioka reimen shop and the ABC Ramen store, there is an entranceway, with a blue sign for "Club Yuri" above it. Go in the entranceway, and up the stairs. There is a locked door to the right, on the second floor. Knock on the door-- a papa-san will let you in.It is apparently gaijin-okay as long as you are polite and can understand basic Japanese-- the papa-san recommends calling 30 minutes in advance, but I didn't. The papa-san will give you a slip of paper with the name of the girl and a room number, and he will direct you to a building across the street-- "Toyo Building", next to the 104 Pachinko parlor. You go into the building, up the elevator to the room number, and the girl will be waiting.An interesting point-- they have apparently upped their security at these establishments, because now the place where they take your money is physically separate from the rooms where you meet the girls. This place is quite close to Tokyo SPM, and I think it is run by the same company or something.The service was quite good, although of course YMMV. I had Rika, she wasn't much to look at, but very enthusiastic and kind, and I had a great time. One improvement from Paprika, the room was a bit more private (it's a private apartment, apparently), and it was air-conditioned.There you go, hope this helps some of my brothers out.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Bakka crazy
What is up with people on this forum calling other people idiots and stupid because they post their opinion or try to help someone by alerting them to a bad situation. I have to think that the majority want to read this site for information and entertainment not flaming.
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[QUOTE=Matsu69]Now the girls that are coming over here from Korea today:1 - They know exactly what they are coming to do.2 - They keep their passports and have to return to Korea in 3 months.3 - They are earning a pretty healthy sum of money while they are here that they take back home.4 - Many of the girls find the whole thing lucrative enough that they choose to return several more times.[/QUOTE]I've been very involved with some of these girls.Yes many know what they are getting into.BUT. There are many who don't know what they are lined up for. At least the first time around. Many are told they will work in no touch/no sex room salons, but when they don't sell enough bottles. They must repay their debt, one way or another. Debt bondage involves little choice, esp given how debt is treated in korea. Until they repay their debt. They don't get to keep their passports nor choose what they will and won't do. It all depends who their debt was sold to. And some bosses structure it so debt only goes up, not down.That many return to this work after their debt has been repaid. Well. Why not the money is good and the milk has been spilled more than 1000x over.
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Hi,Are you referring kiraracafe in Ikebukuro? Are these cafes gaijin friendly?recently these Chinese places are also saying No some times. I think cafes are interesting to try. thanks [QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin]Sorry it took me so long to get back to you-- as you might imagine, I can't access this site at work, and it's hard for me to access it many other places. I have been to several deai cafes since my first post, and they all operate basically the same way-- you pay about Y1000 for a "joining fee", and then about Y5000 for an "entrance fee", to get into the cafe itself. Then you are seated in a "men's area", separate from where the women are, and you get to view several waiting women-- usually through a one-way mirror, sometimes there is just glass or even open space. The girls run the gamut-- a lot of them look to be ordinary girls, who just had nothing to do and are in need of some money, others look to be hardened pros (who show up day in and day out). They are all there to hook, however. You get to take any girl you select into a "talk room", where you get to talk to her for about 10 minutes. It rarely takes the full 10 minutes, because you just name a price and the girl is good to go. I named a price, Y20,000, and none of the girls refused it, so that may be a little bit high. You could probably get away with offering a little less. The girls' service varies as well, depending on their experience and enthusiasm. Sometimes they are enthusiastic amateurs, sometimes bored professionals-- you have to check out which is which during the talk time. You can "talk" to as many girls as you wish, one by one. I get the feeling that the staff starts pressuring you to choose one girl after a few tries, because all the girls will say yes to money, so you should pretty much know which one you want and ask to talk to her. The girl I chose had a favorite love hotel, so I guess she knew the ropes. Most of the girls have their favorite love hotel, and know the ropes. But as you mentioned, this is a great way to meet "semi-pro" and even "amateur" girls, and get to know them a little before agreeing to pay for them. hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
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Eri - the soapland big girl of AM
I am not too much into big girls in general but seing the good reports about Eri. I thought I give her a try. Well she is an interesting experience.Now she is a lot of girl. The attitude is very sex focused. Start with the shower quickly, she has the bag of trick from soapland. The most relevant ones will wake you from the dead.BBBJ technique is good. Lots of lotion cream etc.She will play with your ass. Not intrusive unless you ask- but well. She will play. She is herself a "virgin" in that department.She takes a lot of sex. And will work really hard on you and is very sensitive. From soapland she has this exotic stories. The submarine: the submerged customer grows a periscope for the girl to reach. Or aubergine-man whose johnson was so thick no girl could even give him a blow job and was on a strict 2 handed HJ diet.Overall an interesting break and something different. Definitely a good focus on the job at hand.
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Thanks!
Many thanks bro, I was going to try her, but was put off by the constantly changing rates, she does seem a little ditzy to me.[QUOTE=Shatneresque]Took one for the team today. tried this Craigs list ad.[url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/1324240964.html[/url]She advertised 3 hours for 25000 yen. She did deliver the goods for round one (BBBJ). However, while starting to get ready for round 2, about 45 minutes into the session, she suddenly said she had to leave, got dressed and was gone within 1 minute.[/QUOTE]
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Reservation with Club Boo
Hi,I am new to this forum and found already lots of great advice and informations. Thanks! I arrived in Japan some time ago and made already some experiences, some bad some better. Now I want to try out Club Boo and was calling them yesterday to make a reservation for next week. The guy on the phone was not very helpful and had very limited english abilities.But I understood that you can not make an reservation days before, (so actually no way of choosing a girl) You must call on the same you want that girl and can only choose from the day schedule list. And you must be in the hotel already. Is that right? So if all girls are busy you just sit alone in the hotel room? Are they reliable? I did RTFF, so some advice from you guys would really be appreciated.Thanks!
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Have anyone tryed the 30+30 deal at Tokyo stand pie me? I have a hard time understand that system. Is it 2 girls for 30 min, or is it first 1 girl and 30 min later anotherone?I could need some help here, please.[url]http://www.tokyo-s-p-m.com/system.php[/url]
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[QUOTE=Hallo]Have anyone tryed the 30+30 deal at Tokyo stand pie me? I have a hard time understand that system. Is it 2 girls for 30 min, or is it first 1 girl and 30 min later anotherone?I could need some help here, please.[url]http://www.tokyo-s-p-m.com/system.php[/url][/QUOTE]I have not tried it myself but I am quite sure it is one shot with one girl for 30 mins then another shot with a different girl for 30 mins.
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3 ladies
Hi there,I am planning to visit Tokyo next week again after reporting in this forum my previous vist not so good experiences, except Erika from AM (great!).I RTFF, but cant find any info on:- [url]www.missasiaplayground.com[/url] --> anyone tried her?If not, I will and will report.- Valentina Lovely: [url]www.girl-directory.com/japan-escort.php?ID=17164[/url]--> anyone experience- AM: Rina: I saw 1 soso report on her. On AM website she looks very hot, anyone else can report on another experience?Sorry, 3 ladies - 3 questions, hope that anyone can report something on them. Will report back after my Tokyo experiences.Thanks
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30 + 30 deal at Tokyo Stand Pie Me
[QUOTE=Hallo]Have anyone tryed the 30+30 deal at Tokyo stand pie me? I have a hard time understand that system. Is it 2 girls for 30 min, or is it first 1 girl and 30 min later anotherone?I could need some help here, please.[url]http://www.tokyo-s-p-m.com/system.php[/url][/QUOTE]The 30 + 30 deal at Tokyo Stand Pie Me means 1 girl for 30 minutes, and then a different girl for another 30 minutes.
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Cafe Kirara in Kabukicho by Koma Theater
[QUOTE=Ginger 3443]Hi,Are you referring kiraracafe in Ikebukuro? Are these cafes gaijin friendly?recently these Chinese places are also saying No some times. I think cafes are interesting to try. thanks[/QUOTE]I was talking about Cafe Kirara in Kabukicho by Koma Theater, but I think it's a chain and there is also a branch in Ikebukuro. As far as I can tell all the branches have the same basic procedure. Also, I have tried a few different chains in Shibuya and Akihabara.I didn't have any problem getting into Cafe Kirara (the website is [url]www.kiraracafe.com[/url]), but I went in the afternoon, when it was pretty dead, and the place seemed desperate for business. It probably helps to make friends with the staff there, and be able to speak some Japanese so you understand the procedure. I think the few refusals I've gotten, at any p4p establishment, have been right after the store had some kind of problem with gaikokujins who didn't understand the proper etiquette. I just smile a lot and nod, and if they say 'no' then I leave, with no questions asked. I've been pretty successful.
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Odakyu Line P4P Action? Shimokitazawa?
Okay, I am having a lame weekend, but I thought I would take my lemons and make lemonade. Since I'm stuck out in Shimokitazawa anyway, helping out a friend, I thought I would check out what sort of P4P action there is along the Odakyu line, south-west out of Shinjuku.I have to tell you, there is not much here. Shimokitazawa is full of cute young college sex kittens, but having wandered fully around the station, I have only found some legitimate Chinese massage parlors, and some lame "Girl's Bar"s. These are establishments where fully clothed (pretty) female bartenders serve you drinks-- and that's it. If there is any kind of pink scene here, it is extremely well-hidden.Someone mentioned that there is one hostess club in Shimokitazawa, but I have yet to find it. I would think, with all the geeky guys here, a nice soapland would do a raging business, but this place seems squeaky clean.Does anyone have any information about p4p establishments anywhere along the Odakyu line? Fortunately I don't have to spend long here, but a little geographical variety would be nice.
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An escort links short list
[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Hi,Now I want to try out Club Boo and was calling them yesterday to make a reservation for next week. The guy on the phone was not very helpful and had very limited english abilities.But I understood that you can not make an reservation days before, (so actually no way of choosing a girl) You must call on the same you want that girl and can only choose from the day schedule list. And you must be in the hotel already. Is that right? So if all girls are busy you just sit alone in the hotel room? Are they reliable? [/QUOTE]I had one bad experience with see them [post]916946[/post] but mosty they are ok. And yes they seem to have a bunch of rigid annoying rules. You may find AM ([url]http://www.asianmystique.com/[/url]) and Manami ([url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url]) better value for similar experience - as someone already said in forum. With these 2 you can definitely make a reservation. Also Nasty Dolls ([url]http://www.nasty-dolls.jp/[/url]) I never tried advanced reservation but should be ok (please report). Also Honobono ([url]http://www.hono-bono.com/ladies/en.html[/url]) is a popular alternative. With all that your chance to sit duck in your hotel room are slim... have fun.
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More on Shizuka
[QUOTE=tjoe2002]Shizuka: sweet girl, but it`s really not my job to train them. gomennasai!.[/QUOTE]She is pretty and has an interesting goofy personality. So if what you look for is company for the evening she may be an interesting option. As for the sex she has this amateur quality and yes the technique is a bit weak. Blow jobs are covered and do not count on too much help to wake your johnson up. She does take a lot of standard sex and is a bit on the passive side.
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Any news from Yua anyone?
I really liked her at AM. She seemed no longer available (maybe extended vacations?).I hope she comes back.
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I took a friend who is on vacation in Tokyo to this Chinese esute place(on the 5th floor). The place was dead, the guy told me only one girl was working (on a Friday night?). He was kind enough to tell us that there is another Chinese esute in the same building on the 3rd floor. Went there with my buddy, many girls working, many customers waiting, 8000 yen for 60 mins, private rooms. The girl I had gave me average service, my friend seemed to be very satisfied with the experience, at 8000 it's a steal he said...Anyway, directions are below except that this place is on the 3rd floor. Have fun!P.S : the station is Takadanobaba[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Get out at the Waseda exit(JR Yamanote line), turn right(towards Mizuho bank) on Waseda-dori. Keep on the right side of Waseda-Dori. Walk for about 2-3 mins, you will see a Wendy's and a Tsutaya on the left side of the street(you're still on the right side), then you should see a coffee shop(sorry forgot the name) on the right side of the street, pass the coffee shop and you will see a Real Estate(fudousan) shop on your right, there is an entrance to a building on the right of the fudousan shop. Enter the building, elevator is on your left, there is a bar on B1, take the elevator to the 5F, shop is there.If you get lost, call them(in Japanese). Good luck.[/QUOTE]
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Can you choose the girls at Honobono?
Also Honobono ([url]http://www.hono-bono.com/ladies/en.html[/url]) is a popular alternative. With all that your chance to sit duck in your hotel room are slim... have fun.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice so far. I tend to try out AM (Rio) for the first time. They have a new chinese girl which was also available, but I couldn't find a feedback so I was not sure for the first time.I looked at the Honobono list, some look kind of cute but some look really scary, so I was wondering if you could really choose the girls. Most other places say only a few are available for NJ. How is their service anyway?
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It's the 'burbs
[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin]Okay, I am having a lame weekend, but I thought I would take my lemons and make lemonade. Since I'm stuck out in Shimokitazawa anyway, helping out a friend, I thought I would check out what sort of P4P action there is along the Odakyu line, south-west out of Shinjuku.I have to tell you, there is not much here. Shimokitazawa is full of cute young college sex kittens, but having wandered fully around the station, I have only found some legitimate Chinese massage parlors, and some lame "Girl's Bar"s. These are establishments where fully clothed (pretty) female bartenders serve you drinks-- and that's it. If there is any kind of pink scene here, it is extremely well-hidden.Someone mentioned that there is one hostess club in Shimokitazawa, but I have yet to find it. I would think, with all the geeky guys here, a nice soapland would do a raging business, but this place seems squeaky clean.Does anyone have any information about p4p establishments anywhere along the Odakyu line? Fortunately I don't have to spend long here, but a little geographical variety would be nice.[/QUOTE]UG - Yes, this is a squeaky clean part of town. Here are the bad things for P4P:1 -Too much visibility of local traffic - i.e. too high risk of your neighbor seeing you come/go from a P4P place.2- High cost real estate - rent is too expensive for the amount of traffic one could expect.3 - Odakyu line to Shinjuku - 10 minutes.4 - Keio line to Shibuya - 5 minutesPretty much the same with most of the bedroom communities in Setagaya. It's just not worth the hassle to start a P4P establishment of any kind in this area.
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Cafe Kirara following the steps
[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin]I was talking about Cafe Kirara in Kabukicho by Koma Theater, but I think it's a chain and there is also a branch in Ikebukuro. As far as I can tell all the branches have the same basic procedure. Also, I have tried a few different chains in Shibuya and Akihabara.I didn't have any problem getting into Cafe Kirara (the website is [url]www.kiraracafe.com[/url]), but I went in the afternoon, when it was pretty dead, and the place seemed desperate for business. It probably helps to make friends with the staff there, and be able to speak some Japanese so you understand the procedure. I think the few refusals I've gotten, at any p4p establishment, have been right after the store had some kind of problem with gaikokujins who didn't understand the proper etiquette. I just smile a lot and nod, and if they say 'no' then I leave, with no questions asked. I've been pretty successful.[/QUOTE]Was curious about the new avenue you opened, and tried to follow your steps. Just been there on a Saturday afternoon, which is probably not that good a time. The first reaction is that it is closed to Gaijin. Definitely one needs to make friends with the staff before getting in. And UG I agree with you it is 90% about being likeable, smiling and speak some Japanese. I tried all that and they let me in in the end, but this good have gone either way (at the time there was more men than girls as well).Thank you for the tip Ultra Gaijin. We need to be very careful that they see gaijin favorably for this openness to continue. At the moment they are surprised but relatively open minded if you can show so social skill in Japanese. Some Japanese is a must as the also expect you to fill in some profile and discuss with the girl.
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Yua
[QUOTE=Shirokyu]I really liked her at AM. She seemed no longer available (maybe extended vacations?).I hope she comes back.[/QUOTE]Dave (the AM owner) just confirmed she left AM.
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In Tokyo Oct 7 to Oct 10
Hi Guys,I will be in Tokyo from Oct 7 to Oct 10. Was wondering if any of you would be interested in going to Yoshiwara and try to hit one of the soaplands? I'm chinese but actually look Japanese/Korean with no Japanese language skills. I know it may be tough, but I figured why not give it a try since some here have been successful.I'm hoping by bringing my iPhone and maybe using the Japanese-English translation on it will help me a bit in getting into one of the stores. If anyone here that speaks Japanese is thinking about going and don't mind me tagging along, that would be awesome.I went to Grimpeur last time I was in Tokyo with a Japanese friend and was able to get in, but my buddy is no longer in Tokyo.If you are ever in HK/Macau or Toronto, I will be able to give you a tour or at least give you tips on where to go for good girls/service.Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Jcdantiv]Also have one question: from what I've read here Kilala in Shinjuku looks interesting, but what is it exactly? In one post I've read it's just like a false hostess bar when a girl arrives and offers you to go to a nearby love hotel, in a recent one you had to choose a girl behind a mirror and to discuss price with her. Are those the same place?[/QUOTE]I believe that Kirara cafe and Club Kirara are 2 different establishments. Club Kirara (Kilala) is on the fifth floor of a building. Full service take-out.
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[QUOTE=Ronin7788]]Thanks for the advice so far. I tend to try out AM (Rio) for the first time. They have a new chinese girl which was also available, but I couldn't find a feedback so I was not sure for the first time.I looked at the Honobono list, some look kind of cute but some look really scary, so I was wondering if you could really choose the girls. Most other places say only a few are available for NJ. How is their service anyway?[/QUOTE]Sounds like you went for the safest pair of hands. With Honobono also YMMV as you can see in the Yuffei post below [post]913797[/post]. To simplify ND girls have an homogeneous kitten look, AM almost consistently GFE. Never tried Rio but you read good things about her in this forum.
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Kirara Cafe
[QUOTE=Tokidoki]I believe that Kirara cafe and Club Kirara are 2 different establishments. Club Kirara (Kilala) is on the fifth floor of a building. Full service take-out.[/QUOTE]Kirara cafe is the place with the mirror. The net result is not that dissimilar though.
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Kirara cafe's news feed
Their web side is [url]http://www.kiraracafe.com/[/url] . They even have a feed -- for exemple the shinjuku branch feed : [url]http://www.kiraracafe.com/shin/news_shin.php[/url].you get regular reports there with time stamp and you may see from time to time 【男性6名】【女性7名】With different numbers of course. The first number (6) is the number of men on the man side. The second one (7) the number of women. I think the staff actively uses the feed - to signal to girls when to come.If you are a man you do not want to go there when there is only one girl an 8 men. This was the case for exemple yesterday around midnight.Then the report reads:2009/08/23 00:02 【店内状況】まさに男性の襲来だぁ!女性が来ても即成立!イベントは最終日!!成立料は1000円!!こんな日だからこそ来て頂きたいのです!【男性8名】【女性1名】お嬢さん!!ここがポイントの時間です!!Posted By はっし~There staff member Hassi describe the situation, calls for more girls to come, and remind their special deals. It seems to have some kind of impact because by 2am the report reads:2009/08/23 02:00 【店内状況】一気に女性がご来店!これはまさに男女比大逆転だぁー!終電を逃して彷徨っている女性達が来る時間!そこを狙う男性!そしてイベント最終日?【男性6名】【女性7名】成立料は1000円!成立しやすくご案内!新規女性はこうだ!『20歳 大学生』ムッチリボディーは必見だぞ!もちろん生足!!Posted By はっし~In other words there are now seven girls and 6 men. I looks like there is a community of girls - that kirara cafe can call upon.
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I'm checking out Kabukicho/Ueno Nov this year and thinking of trying out some of the strips clubs there.Which one is the best among the 3?TS MusicDX KabukichoStrip Club UenoI plan to buy tickets in the morning so I can avail the morning discount and watch all day. I sure hope the girls still do open poses and flaunt their pinkbits here.any special shows/events on these clubs every novermber that I should now about?
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[QUOTE=Tokidoki]I believe that Kirara cafe and Club Kirara are 2 different establishments. Club Kirara (Kilala) is on the fifth floor of a building. Full service take-out.[/QUOTE]Will someone please explain the selection process at Club Kilala (5th floor). In particular, I'm wondering if you can choose from a number of different girls, or does one just come to your table and you go from there?
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Emi of ND - 90min course
Had a really bad experience with her a few weeks ago. Her figure is great, face is ok too, but I think she really has some sort of mental problem. I don't want to go into all sorts of negative details here and maybe your experience is going to be different but in all my years of being here never had a girl like her. To sum up: took a while in the shower, has been burning time on idle activities, screams (yes, and I don't mean passion here) and doesn't really let you touch her pussy. Instead of sex spent 40min on a very mediocre massage. Very, very disappointing experience - otherwise I've been quite satisfied with ND girls to date. PS ND - Nasty Dolls if you don't know the abbreviation.
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All the same...
[QUOTE=Roquejo]I'm checking out Kabukicho/Ueno Nov this year and thinking of trying out some of the strips clubs there.Which one is the best among the 3?TS MusicDX KabukichoStrip Club UenoI plan to buy tickets in the morning so I can avail the morning discount and watch all day. I sure hope the girls still do open poses and flaunt their pinkbits here.any special shows/events on these clubs every novermber that I should now about?[/QUOTE]And, yes, when I last went, about a year ago, you could alkmost perform an endoscopy on their private parts. But unfortunately, very little , if any, touching allowed..
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Emi of ND?
[QUOTE=Ice Tea13]Had a really bad experience with her a few weeks ago. Her figure is great, face is ok too, but I think she really has some sort of mental problem.[/QUOTE]ND states she is 19. Do you think this is correct?After your poor service with her... Did you make a complaint to ND?If not, you should have.
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[QUOTE=Dreams]And, yes, when I last went, about a year ago, you could alkmost perform an endoscopy on their private parts. But unfortunately, very little, if any, touching allowed.[/QUOTE]So which of the 3, TS Music, DX Kabukichi, or Strip Ueno is best.I heard there are only 6 performers. So with the unlimited day pass. You get tired of them after a few hours.Any of those clubs have more than 6 performer?
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[QUOTE=Shirokyu]Sounds like you went for the safest pair of hands. With Honobono also YMMV as you can see in the Yuffei post below [post]913797[/post]. To simplify ND girls have an homogeneous kitten look, AM almost consistently GFE. Never tried Rio but you read good things about her in this forum.[/QUOTE]Well I booked my session with Mako of AM. I guess I tend more for the slim girl. I will report back after the session.
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[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Well I booked my session with Mako of AM. I guess I tend more for the slim girl. I will report back after the session.[/QUOTE]See is very slim and a nice girl.
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Club Kilala (5th floor) vs. Cafe Kirara
[QUOTE=Xslikx]Will someone please explain the selection process at Club Kilala (5th floor). In particular, I'm wondering if you can choose from a number of different girls, or does one just come to your table and you go from there?[/QUOTE]As someone else explained, Club Kilala (5th floor) is a completely separate establishment from Cafe Kirara (basement), as Cafe Kirara is a chain of deai cafes, while Club Kilala (5th floor) is what is known as a "seku-kyaba", or sex hostess club. Club Kilala (5th floor) is just one open room, where you come in, sit down, and a girl (usually Chinese) sits down with you, pours you some drinks, and grabs your unit, and offers to go to a love hotel with you for like Y30,000. If you don't like the girl, there are lots of other girls (in hostess attire) lounging around the room, or talking to other customers. You can point and choose, but if you keep refusing the girls who sit with you, (as I did), the mama-san will come over and ask you what the problem is. I guess you are expected to choose fairly quickly. Most of the girls, and certainly the mama-san, are Chinese. Hope that helps.
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Miku @ DC
I visited D-Cup the other day and tried Miku for the first time. Check out the photo attached, it gives a pretty good idea of what we are talking about. My ratings:Looks: 8+ Face is pretty cute, body is quite petite and slim, breasts are real, large for her frame, and nice -- check the photoService: 7 Service was CBJ and HJ only. Everything must be covered. If you are looking for FS or BBBJ prepare to be disappointed. Liftoff was achieve twice, one CBJ one HJ.Cost: I did 60 minutes, because (a) as per my last review of Chihiro @ DC 30 is too short, and (b) 60 is where we find the sweet spot yen/minute minimum (assuming I took derivatives properly). Damage 15,000.No complaints. I had my expectations well in check, and if you do based on the above you should do fine.Note that there is a situation where one guy (mentioned in my last DC post) is cool and will be upfront about which girls are OK for foreigners and which are NG. There is an old guy who tried to tell me that about 3 months ago foreigners were declared off limits in the shop. Luckily the other guy was standing right there and he set the old guy straight. So YMMV. If you get denied but you've been there before, tell them about it and you might get in. If you haven't been there before, you might try telling them you have. Good luck.By the way, Miku is featured in the Gravure section. These shots/video are legitimate. Miku's strict on covering up, but not shy. She has her own blog by the way, and will give you here personal card if you ask. She also loves ferrets, and her favorite movie last year was Iron Man. Whatever.[url]http://www.yoasobitai.net/contents/yarou/100/[/url][url]http://movie.yorutomo.net/movie/doutama/asx/d-cup777_miku.asx[/url]Final note. I asked her about foreign customers, and she said there a few but not that many. She specifically mentioned that Chinese are not allowed, for whatever reason. Apologies my Chinese brothers, but that's what she said. If your Japanese is good enough you can probably get in, although if you object to the practice you'll probably be boycotting anyway.ES
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Misaki @ Dcup
[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]I visited D-Cup the other day and tried Miku for the first time. Check out the photo attached, it gives a pretty good idea of what we are talking about. My ratings:Looks: 8+ Face is pretty cute, body is quite petite and slim, breasts are real, large for her frame, and nice -- check the photo.Service: 7 Service was CBJ and HJ only. Everything must be covered. If you are looking for FS or BBBJ prepare to be disappointed. Liftoff was achieve twice, one CBJ one HJ.Cost: I did 60 minutes, because (a) as per my last review of Chihiro @ DC 30 is too short, and (b) 60 is where we find the sweet spot yen/minute minimum (assuming I took derivatives properly). Damage 15,000.No complaints. I had my expectations well in check, and if you do based on the above you should do fine.Note that there is a situation where one guy (mentioned in my last DC post) is cool and will be upfront about which girls are OK for foreigners and which are NG. There is an old guy who tried to tell me that about 3 months ago foreigners were declared off limits in the shop. Luckily the other guy was standing right there and he set the old guy straight. So YMMV. If you get denied but you've been there before, tell them about it and you might get in. If you haven't been there before, you might try telling them you have. Good luck.By the way, Miku is featured in the Gravure section. These shots/video are legitimate. Miku's strict on covering up, but not shy. She has her own blog by the way, and will give you here personal card if you ask. She also loves ferrets, and her favorite movie last year was Iron Man. Whatever.[url]http://www.yoasobitai.net/contents/yarou/100/[/url][url]http://movie.yorutomo.net/movie/doutama/asx/d-cup777_miku.asx[/url]Final note. I asked her about foreign customers, and she said there a few but not that many. She specifically mentioned that Chinese are not allowed, for whatever reason. Apologies my Chinese brothers, but that's what she said. If your Japanese is good enough you can probably get in, although if you object to the practice you'll probably be boycotting anyway.ES[/QUOTE]Yes, I hit d-cup too last week. After getting shot down twice in a row, the tout told me that it was best to call ahead. Third time, I called ahead about 10 minutes before and there were no problems at all. The touts were actually friendly when I arrived! I had Misaki again for the 30 minute course. She remembered me from last time, so she didn't require a cover, but YMMV. She also laid on her back and let me titty fuck her to finish off and she was adequate for that job. Not a lot of J-girls will let you do that so that was a big plus.
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Yumi @ Grimpeur
[url]http://www.s-grimpeur. Jp/index.php? Action=girlprofile&id=1025[/url]Had Yumi at Grimpeur this weekend. Actually, I thought that I had been to Grimpeur once before, but I was actually at the shop in the front. I'm sure that many people know this already, but when you get to the 666 building, make sure that you go to the shop all the way in the back. Worlds different.The tout pulled out the cards for the gaijin-friendly girls and Yumi's card had g-cup written clearly on it so the choice was pretty easy. Came pretty quickly to the room, tall, pleasant, cute face, friendly and fun with really nice, large, natural tits. Nicely trimmed, plus even a Brazilian, I think. Let me leisurely explore her terrific body for a while and and looked straight at me and really seemed to get into it when I fingered her (I can't work up the courage for DATY with working girls). BBBJ for a while and she wanted to go for sumata which I declined. I know a lot of guys here get into that but I never did it before and it seems a little unsafe (but I'm OK sometimes with BBBJ, so go figure). I had her finish BBBJ and popped a little bit in her mouth, which she got upset about because she said it was an "option", which she or the tout didn't tell me about before. Afterwards, I gave her the Y2000 option price, so I think no harm was done.Had her for the 1 hour and I think that she really wanted to finish at one pop. I asked her if two pops were OK before I popped the first time and she just said, "dame, mada gamen shite" and wouldn't give me an answer. I also asked if she did time extensions, but she said she had another customer reservation afterwards. Anyway, took me a little while and she tried to distract me (oh don't touch me. My legs fell asleep, oh my mother just called), but I managed to start her up for round two which was a handjob with lotion. I didn't mind, because I played with her tits the whole time.Overall, excellent if only for the amazing tits. Maybe the best ones I have ever seen on a J-girl. Disappointing because she wouldn't let me titty fuck her. She said the lotion gave her pimples. Whatever. Anyway, I think she's fairly lazy, so be prepared to have to seduce her a little into pop number two if you are so inclined. She told me to call ahead and reserve her next time.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Sayuri at Funny
Hit Nippori last week for Funny. I wanted to go for Hoshi, but it was full. First time there, so I called and the friendly Japanese Papa-san came out and met me.Had Sayuri. Chinese, thin but a little flabby with an OK face. Hit the room connected shower first, and then had two nice, long, slow, relaxing hand jobs with lots of ball action. She said her nipples were sensitive from her last customer, and wouldn't let me play with her tits that much, though. Little light massage between pops. Anyway, overheard some of the other girls from the other rooms and they seemed a lot more fun. However, not too bad for Y8, 000. Sayuri was OK, but I think that they have better girls there.
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Nope...
[QUOTE=Roquejo]So which of the 3, TS Music, DX Kabukichi, or Strip Ueno is best.I heard there are only 6 performers. So with the unlimited day pass. You get tired of them after a few hours.Any of those clubs have more than 6 performer?[/QUOTE]I repeat, all the same... Ueno is smaller, DX is teg biggest,
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]7 Service was CBJ and HJ only.Everything must be covered.ES[/QUOTE]Wait, was the HJ covered as well?
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[QUOTE=Matsu69]UG - Yes, this is a squeaky clean part of town. Here are the bad things for P4P:1 -Too much visibility of local traffic - i.e. too high risk of your neighbor seeing you come/go from a P4P place.2- High cost real estate - rent is too expensive for the amount of traffic one could expect.3 - Odakyu line to Shinjuku - 10 minutes.4 - Keio line to Shibuya - 5 minutesPretty much the same with most of the bedroom communities in Setagaya. It's just not worth the hassle to start a P4P establishment of any kind in this area.[/QUOTE]There is a small, expensive love hotel there called Hotel Andre (sp) there. You can check in and call in for DH.
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Thank you for paying attention!
[QUOTE=Tengu]Wait, was the HJ covered as well?[/QUOTE]Good point. No, it was not.ES
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Very good points. Try Sangenjaya instead.[QUOTE=Matsu69]UG - Yes, this is a squeaky clean part of town. Here are the bad things for P4P:1 -Too much visibility of local traffic - i.e. too high risk of your neighbor seeing you come/go from a P4P place.2- High cost real estate - rent is too expensive for the amount of traffic one could expect.3 - Odakyu line to Shinjuku - 10 minutes.4 - Keio line to Shibuya - 5 minutesPretty much the same with most of the bedroom communities in Setagaya. It's just not worth the hassle to start a P4P establishment of any kind in this area.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Techrepjapan]ND states she is 19. Do you think this is correct?After your poor service with her... Did you make a complaint to ND?If not, you should have.[/QUOTE]No, she is probably 20+ however her service makes it really impossible to enjoy in any way. I really think there are some mental issues going on, so no I don't feel like complaining about someone in such sorry state.
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Mental = Hazardous
[QUOTE=Ice Tea13]I really think there are some mental issues going on, so no I don't feel like complaining about someone in such sorry state.[/QUOTE]This is exactly why I feel you should have made a complaint. If she has some type of mental instability, maybe she should not be doing this type of work. Who knows what could make her snap while she is with a customer.
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[QUOTE=Techrepjapan]This is exactly why I feel you should have made a complaint. If she has some type of mental instability, maybe she should not be doing this type of work. Who knows what could make her snap while she is with a customer.[/QUOTE]One's man loss is another find. If there are other reports on her and others feel the same way perhaps it make sense to complain. At present it's just one report and one opinion and that's not enough of a ground to complain in my book.
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My findings in Tokyo
Stayed now a few nights in Tokyo and had 4 girls:- Valentina Lovely (site below): prety girl, brazilian/italian blood, but not the Asian service we are used to. Her body made me have a nice session, but dont expect that she is very much into it. OK, but no repeat.- Marina: Club Boo, very nice experience. As written by someone before, a very slow and sensual session. She is tiny, has nice face, 100% shaved, juicy and just into you. Had only 1 pop, but that was somehow just perfect. Could repeat.- Akubi: Club Boo. Looks like an average secretary, not very pretty, but also not ugly, just nice to do one time. She is friendly, knows what she's doing, not the typical sweet and (appearing) innocent J-girl (like Marina). Nice, but no repeat.- Sakura: ND, very nice experience. She is smart girl, speaks best english of the J-girls had so far. Perefct body, nice face (even a girl you would look back on street), but not a model stunner. Unlike previous report i found it a very GFE. Had 2 pops, tried A-level (but I was just too big, unf this time:) and just felt great. She offers CIM. Could repeat.All in all, 4 nice ones, but so far best were Sakura and Marina. Will try Tsubaki of ND on Sunday, lets see if her great reports so far materialize.. Thanks all for the tips.If anyone has more experience on Rina or missasiaplayground.com, would be great to have some advice..[QUOTE=Bier 8]Hi there,I am planning to visit Tokyo next week again after reporting in this forum my previous vist not so good experiences, except Erika from AM (great!).I RTFF, but cant find any info on:- [url]www.missasiaplayground.com[/url] --> anyone tried her?If not, I will and will report.- Valentina Lovely: [url]www.girl-directory.com/japan-escort.php?ID=17164[/url]--> anyone experience?- AM: Rina: I saw 1 soso report on her. On AM website she looks very hot, anyone else can report on another experience?Sorry, 3 ladies - 3 questions, hope that anyone can report something on them. Will report back after my Tokyo experiences.Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Power flower tsubaki (camellia)
[QUOTE=Bier 8]Will try Tsubaki of ND on Sunday, lets see if her great reports so far materialize.. Thanks all for the tips.[/QUOTE]I hope you like her - I admit I went back to her for 2 hours a few days ago. She got so much into the action she went 15mn overtime without realizing. I took another hour - great time.
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Otsuka - Smiles
Visited Otsuka today because I was lacking in funds for some play. Otsuka has a lot of Deliheru and Pink Salons. Checked out Smiles, located two minutes from the North Exit of JR Otsuka. There are a lot of Pink Salons gathered beyond the Starbucks. There are some Chinese esutes as well.Otsuka Pink Salons range between 2, 000 yen and 3, 000 yen if they choose the girl for you. Add 2, 000 yen more if you want to choose your girl for 30 minutes. Smiles has a online coupon for 1, 000 yen off. The site is only in Japanese.[url]http://smiles-o.com/[/url]It is on the 3rd floor of the common multi-story building. When you get off, you will be in the common lobby of the 3rd floor, which is shared by Smiles and a bar. Usually there a bunch of guys waiting in the common lobby. I chose a girl named Sera. There was a 30 minute wait. During my wait, I looked at the sign indicating the establishment's rules. Standard rules, but one caught my eye. "No mafia, NO FOREIGNERS." I can pass myself off for a native Japanese, so that is why I was allowed in.Sera is pretty, pair of C cups, and the service was standard pink salon fare. DFK, and BJ. The girls are dressed in schoolgirl uniforms. She gave a pretty good BJ, and they do not chase you out if you "finish" before the 30 minutes. I noticed other customers talking to the girls. The facilities are pretty clean, and they change the towels covering the sofas for every client. This place is constantly busy and the wait can be long for the better looking girls.Will report back when I can visit another establishment in Otsuka. Hopefully they accept foreigners.
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Kumi from AM - ouch
I met her a few weeks back in an upscale hotel in Shinagawa.This hotel requires a keycard to get to the elevators, so I had to meet her outside. Usually I prefer to have her come to my room. We met in front of a coffee shop. We exchanged greetings, and walked up to my room. Got a strange look from the woman at the front desk who had escorted me up to my room upon checkin about 2 hours before. I think she is probably in her early 30s, but very cute. We made some small talk, and she asked if I wanted to take shower. Got undressed, and went to the bathroom. She isnt a small girl. She's got some meat on her, but is really nicely put together and carries herself well. Not huge tits, but nice also. Totally clean shaven. Nice bubble butt. Shower was nice. She doesnt like to kiss all that much though. Made it back to the bed. She did BBBJ for a while and I couldnt help take a couple of licks at her totally clean pussy...but I dont typically do that with women I dont know quite well. Had a bud get Ghon in the mouth one time from some tainted pussy and, well, it wasnt pretty. Anyways.I made the mistake of not bringing my own condoms. I'm pretty thick, so she struggled to get the largest of the ones she brought with her on the big guy, and it was freaking tight. Real tight. I mean REAL tight. Well, we go at it at all the usual positions. She definitely was getting into it and seemed to be having as much fun as I was. As I'm getting beggining to pop while doing it doggie, I start to feel this sharp pain. It startled me, but I was too into what I was doing so I kept going. I could tell the tight condom was interfering with the flow, and it seemed to last for a while. No complaints about that though. All done, she removes the condom and we start chatting while getting ready for round 2. She goes down to start getting things back in working order and says "Wow, are you ok?" I look down and see blood coming from my dick. WTF? I kind of panicked and went into the bathroom to clean up and take a leak. No pain and no more blood. But I continue to asses the damage. I think I burst a blood vessel when I popped because the condom was so damned tight. I go back in and tell her what I think happened. She was very apologetic and asked if I wanted to go more or would I like a deep massage. I opted for the massage since I wasn't clear what shape my junk was in. Nice massage. She rolled me and continued, then finished me off BBBJ again. No blood or pain this time. I was surprised because after seeing the blood, I didnt think she wanted anything more to do with that part of me. If I was her, I dont think I would have. We finished with a shower, then I let her have the bathroom so she could fix herself up. Overall, very nice experience except for the equipment damage. She was a lot of fun. I would definitely repeat (with my own condoms.) I noticed she is no longer on the AM website. She did mention that she may be going independent like Manami. I'd keep an eye out for her. Well worth it.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]And those returned Japanese soldiers from China and Burma told you that back in the day the Korean comfort women were coming over to Japan on short term student or holiday visas, working for 3 or so months and then going back to Korea when they were done. And sometimes coming back for another round? And you believed them? [/quote]Yeah, you got it, except it wasn't coming over to Japan, they were Japanese. That's pretty close to the truth. Of course you won't find any Koreans pointing out that they were in fact *****s, better to play the innocent maiden who had no idea what she was getting herself into. Koreans were an integral part of the Japanese war effort but they don't like to talk about it these days, best to play the victim. But that's the problem with history that's been written in newspapers, not by historians.[QUOTE]I'm sure there were some sex workers coming of their own free will from various other Asian countries at the time, but these are not what people mean when they use the expression 'comfort women.'[/QUOTE]The term 'comfort women' was coined by the Japanese. Whatever it is you think it means, they were *****s. If you are really interested there is an interesting reference to them in the brilliant BBC series "The World At War".
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[QUOTE=Castl Smith]I met her a few weeks back ...[/QUOTE]She seems to have disappeared from the AM site.
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Well can anyone name any soaplands in Tokyo that accepts gaijin?Anyone?
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[QUOTE=Coug X]Well can anyone name any soaplands in Tokyo that accepts gaijin?Anyone?[/QUOTE]I gave a list a month or two ago that listed 30 or 40 locations, including soaplands that accept gaijin. RTFF.
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[QUOTE=Japanguy]She seems to have disappeared from the AM site.[/QUOTE] If you are going to read a post, try reading it all the way until the end.
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Eri of AM
The post before this one about Eri convinced me to try her and I can say that it was indeed accurate. Eri is not thin but I enjoyed her skill and service level which she honed from working in a soapland. From the moment she met me to saying farewell, she was all smiles and upbeat. I give her a well deserved 9 out of 10 in the service and technique department, but give her maybe a 7 for her BBBJ as her small mouth and my sizable size were a bit of challenge for her. For those of you who enjoy hand jobs, her sumata technique is umm, quite proficient. She likes to set the pace of the session, so be aware of that and either appreciate it or reconsider before asking for her. She's very GFE and friendly and as the other report indicated, she "can take a lot of sex" however I popped early doing her doggie. My second cup of coffee came with her most expert sumata. PS. If anyone has tried Aya of AM, I'd greatly appreciate a post or PM. Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]I gave a list a month or two ago that listed 30 or 40 locations, including soaplands that accept gaijin. RTFF.[/QUOTE]Can someone do the same for Nagoya?
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]If you are going to read a post, try reading it all the way until the end.[/QUOTE]Gaijin, your every post is like a ray of sunshine. And so much value added. On behalf of everyone I would just like to say... thanks.ES
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Kumi
[QUOTE=Japanguy]She seems to have disappeared from the AM site.[/QUOTE]If this is the same girl from okinawa (it has got to be her i remember the condom pb) she went back there.
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Gaijin, your every post is like a ray of sunshine. And so much value added. On behalf of everyone I would just like to say... thanks.ES[/QUOTE]Why thank you. And might I wish you the same.
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Yuki not Kumi
[QUOTE=Shirokyu]If this is the same girl from okinawa (it has got to be her i remember the condom pb) she went back there.[/QUOTE]Actually I checked my email - the okinawa girl was Yuki, not Kumi. I had her last session in August before she would go back to Okinawa. Same domestic condom problem and also disappeared from am board (which confused me). But overall even I never tried Kumi, Yuki probably sounds like a less adventurous girl (Kumi was on the AM a-level list) and less experienced or sure of herself. Yuki certainly was sweet, but a bit shy and self-councious, sex was decent but not great, something naive and sweet about her. She would lick your full body and provide GFE.Sorry for the confusion.
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For the newbie
So I'll be in Tokyo for a few days later this year, and had a different sort of question. Is there any way to select a girl via website/phone and have her come to a hotel room?
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ND - Tsubaki
Met her a couple of days ago, 90 min package.Shirokyu, I have to admit she is very much into it, she likes sex, lots of it...However, you have to like her appearance and the screaming during the session though. I would def. not repeat, but can imagine she is favorite for others.[QUOTE=Shirokyu]I hope you like her - I admit I went back to her for 2 hours a few days ago. She got so much into the action she went 15mn overtime without realizing. I took another hour - great time.[/QUOTE]
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You can't be serious!!!
[QUOTE=Opticwind]So I'll be in Tokyo for a few days later this year, and had a different sort of question. Is there any way to select a girl via website/phone and have her come to a hotel room?[/QUOTE]Dude - I thought about stomping you with both feet for asking this question. But I don't want to develop a harsh reputation on the board... so I'll be PC and kindly advise you to Review The Field reports contained in the Forum (RTFF). There are a hundreds of pages talking about these services.Go to the Japan Forum and find the thread called Tokyo Guide by Dire Wolf [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2900[/url] . It's a great overview that gives the basics including the terminology.If you had read Dire Wolf's guide you would know that you are looking for "Delivery Health" also known as Deli Health or deri herusu. Now then, once you are back to the forum for the city you will be visiting go to the right side of the page and look for the words "Search this Forum". Click on that thing that looks like and upside down triangle and type what you are looking for. Don't forget to click the "Go" button.Now you should have several reports pertaining to what you are looking for. Don't forget to read them before you come back asking more questions.I think you'll discover that what you are asking about is not really a "different sort of question". I just did a search and found 87 posts in the Tokyo thread using "Delivery Health" as a keyword search.And 1 more thing, if you don't have time to RTFF then nobody will have time to help you out.
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[QUOTE=Opticwind]So I'll be in Tokyo for a few days later this year, and had a different sort of question. Is there any way to select a girl via website/phone and have her come to a hotel room?[/QUOTE]Yes this is the standard way (see short list of reputable agencies below: Nasty Dolls, Club Boo, Honobono, TMK and Asian Mystique).
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What is Shinjuku New Art in Kabukicho?Is it similar to DX Kabukicho, TS Music?I'm not sure which one to visit.
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Can anyone recommend any good maid cafes? I'm sure there should be some that are super raunchy and less about chatting.I've also heard of a place that built a replica of a tokyo subway train and basically you go in and get to grope on the girls. Probably not worth the price but more of a fetish/one-time gota try thing.To share an experience of mine: I was in tokyo last Feb. I prepped for the hunt by dressing up alittle. Jeans, nice polo shirt, very nice coat. I see a guy out of this one soapland and as I walk by. He waves me down and I ask him politely "Are gaijins ok" (gaijin daijoubu deska) he smiles and responds yes and we begin a 15minute discussion with my broken japanese, lots of hand signs, and my phone calc to show the price.Price 65K yen but since I am paying with cc there is a 20% extra so it becomes something around I think was 800USD (I recall this as this was the charge on my credit card). They had to call in to cc company or something to verify or something, it took frigging forever. I used a mastercard. I def recommend bringing cash and save!The course is 2 hours, I asked if there was an 1 hour option but the price dropped maybe about 100$ USD, definitely not worth it.The gal I chose was exactly like the pics. I chatted with her alittle. Shes says shes 22, studing law at waseda. Not very busty but just downright beautiful.Now cutting to an interesting part, because you all know what generally occurs. I was on top of her, DFK/etc, while her hand was on junior. For awhile it felt like she was trying to lead me in, I felt alittle weird because I didn't know what she was doing, clearly I didn't have a condom on. After 10-15min of me "dickin" around outside. I finally realized she was expecting BBFS.She asked me what was wrong, I was kind of shocked and I had to ask for a condom. She uses the telephone and calls for someone to bring it to her. It took a hellueva willpower to refuse BBFS. Anyways we finish up. Happy man, hurting wallet.This is the place's website with directions. Honestly I took probably a few wrong turns and eventually walked into the border of Yoshiwara.[url]www.reijou.jp[/url]
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Advertisement?
[QUOTE=Querym3]To share an experience of mine: I was in tokyo last Feb. I prepped for the hunt by dressing up alittle. Jeans, nice polo shirt, very nice coat. I see a guy out of this one soapland and as I walk by. He waves me down and I ask him politely "Are gaijins ok" (gaijin daijoubu deska) he smiles and responds yes and we begin a 15minute discussion with my broken japanese, lots of hand signs, and my phone calc to show the price.[/QUOTE]Your entire post reads like an advertisement, especially from a first time poster.
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Hmmm...
[QUOTE=Techrepjapan]Your entire post reads like an advertisement, especially from a first time poster.[/QUOTE]I thought that same thing, but wasn't sure. Fact that it was a first time poster was suspicious.Anyway, if so, I thought it was relatively well done.ES
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[QUOTE=Techrepjapan]Your entire post reads like an advertisement, especially from a first time poster.[/QUOTE]I guess i could just ask questions without sharing any experiences.
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No discount, but big smile anyway
Just in case anyone is curious, the 15000 yen discount noted on the website of the Martini soapland in Yoshiwara does not apply to gaijin. However, service can still be obtained for the full foreigner price of 90000 yen for 2 hours. Left with a big grin on my face, even though there was a huge hole in my wallet :-). First time soapland experience for me. Definitely something every man should try at least once in a lifetime. Nothing like Japanese customer service, definitely a quality vs. quantity thing. I'll hopefully try out the quantity side of the equation when I visit Angeles City in November, assuming my vacation plans work out.
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[QUOTE=Dbdoll]Just in case anyone is curious, the 15000 yen discount noted on the website of the Martini soapland in Yoshiwara does not apply to gaijin. However, service can still be obtained for the full foreigner price of 90000 yen for 2 hours. Left with a big grin on my face, even though there was a huge hole in my wallet :-). First time soapland experience for me. Definitely something every man should try at least once in a lifetime. Nothing like Japanese customer service, definitely a quality vs. quantity thing. I'll hopefully try out the quantity side of the equation when I visit Angeles City in November, assuming my vacation plans work out.[/QUOTE]90k yen. anything special to write home about?
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[QUOTE=Dbdoll]... full foreigner price of 90000 yen for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Considering that is almost what I pay for my rent every month, I'm not going to even try.
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[QUOTE=Dbdoll]Just in case anyone is curious, the 15000 yen discount noted on the website of the Martini soapland in Yoshiwara does not apply to gaijin.[/QUOTE]That is fucking ridiculous.And yet, you went in and paid full price? Can I borrow some money from you?ES
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]If you are going to read a post, try reading it all the way until the end.[/QUOTE]I stopped reading when he hurt his dick. Maybe that turns you on but not me.
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The Soapland Experience
Ok, so I guess I should have provided a bit more detail on my brief soapland report other than the price. Here goesFor starters, no I was not drunk, and did not wake up wondering where my 90k yen (US $900) went. Rather, this was a planned experience. Going to a soapland has been on my bucket list for a while now, but since I was married I never thought I would get the chance. However, the wife and I recently parted ways, so I figured I would make this my "kickoff event", and saved up for it.Before marriage, I had done a bit of mini-mongering, but nothing too extravagant. I was in my twenties, overworked, and underpaid, so steered towards the cheap end and was usually disappointed. So, 15 years later (still overworked, but now well paid) I wanted my first "other woman" to be something memorable. Hence, the soapland experience. I was not disappointed.So, on to the details. Took the Hibiya line to Minowa station and walked to Martini soapland, using a Google map printout. Do not try this at home! Next time I will take a cab from the station. Walking around for 20 minutes in the September heat in Tokyo left me more than a bit sweaty (more on this later). Found my way there eventually, after dodging all the other Yoshiwara doormen along the way. Anyone who says gaijin can't get into a soapland hasn't walked through Yoshiwara...you have to almost fight off the offers. "Irashaimase!" says the doorman at Martini. He literally does a double take when I actually accept his offer and follow him inside. I was escorted into their waiting room and offered a seat. I speak very little Japanese, but can comprehend a fair amount when spoken to slowly, so was able to muddle my way through the negotiations, especially after he wrote 90k yen on a piece of paper. Having read this forum, I was aware that most soaplands will offer a non-inclusive price for the bath, but the true price for full service is 3-5 times that. The Martini website advertized 30k yen, so I figured full price was around 90-150k, but they were also advertizing a special good until Sept 11, offering 15k off. Anyway, I brought 90k...any more than that and I would have walked away. I produced the printout of their website offering a 15k discount. He made it clear that this did not apply to foreigners, which I pretty much expected...others may gripe about this and call it discrimination (which it is), but if you spend any time in Japan as a gaijin you know you just have to accept that it happens and move on...it is their country after all. I politely nodded my acknowledgement, and produced the 90k yen. Another double take...he didn't think I would follow through. I was offered a drink (whatever I wanted) while he went back to work out the details. He returned shortly with pictures of three girls. Their website showed quite a few more available that evening, but since I did not have a reservation my choices were limited. I chose one girl, only to have the guy disappear for a few minutes, then return with two pictures, saying "sorry, no gaijin". Ok, so choice number one doesn't want me...neither did my wife...I can take rejection and move on. I made my second choice, and 5 minutes later was ushered out of the waiting room and introduced to...?I'm really bad with names, and was a bit nervous, so I did not catch her name when she introduced herself. The pictures on the Martini website have the faces partially blocked, so I can't be sure which is her, but I think it was Natsumi...however I am very likely wrong. I'll call her Natsumi anyway for the sake of this report. Very attactive, though a bit larger than I prefer. Don't get me wrong, she was not fat...but more of a swimmer/gymast build, whereas given my choice I would prefer the lightweight "spinner" type. Looked about 27 or so years old (the website says Natsumi is 25). Anyway, no objections. She took me back to the room, which was not bad at all. Certainly a nice step up from the AMPs I visited from time to time as a younger man. I sat down on the bed and she started to undress me. When she took my shirt off, I remembered my sweaty walk from the station. "Choto kusai desu" I said in my broken Japanese, which is basically "I'm a bit stinky". "Daijobu desu!" she laughed...or "That's ok!". I can only imagine what they must put up with when some really drunk salary man shows up at closing time...I must not have been that bad. Anyway, for those who have seen one of those soapland themed JAV pornos, what followed next was a perfect rendition, so you may skip to the end. If you want details, read on. Ok, so we get down to the underwear. She puts a towel over my lap before removing my briefs, then goes to HJ while slowly removing the towel, followed by BBBJ. She motions me to lay down, then we 69 for a bit, then finish with her on top in cowgirl. She then offers me any drink of my choice while she prepares the bath. She calls up front, and my booze is delivered outside shortly there after with a subtle knock at the door. We chat in my broken Japanese for a while, which she complements several times. She is a very good liar :-). Bath is ready, but in the Japanese fashion you do not get into the bath while you are diry, you need to wash off first, so she sits me down on a "special seat" that has a strategically placed opening allowing your attendant to fully clean your privates. Lots of groping, kissing, HJ, and BBBJ action. After that, into the bath to relax for a bit while she pulls out the air mattress. She prepares whatever that lubricating stuff is they use in the soapland videos and invites me to lie down. I do not resist. Pretty soon I realized why she had the gymnast build. Slippery, sliding, sizzoring, sexy stuff follows for quite a while, with me alternating between laughing at the sounds (similar to "onara") and gasping at the sensations. I swear at one point it felt like she had a third working me. She then turned me over, more 69, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, etc.Ahhh.Washed off, then sat on the bed while she poured more booze for me and did her best to complement my Japanese again. After a few more drinks, it was off to the races again, more BBBJ, DATY, 69, cowgirl, doggy, and finished in good old missionary. Showered and bathed once more, then had a nitecap and goodnight kiss before parting ways. The doorman arranged a ride back to Minowa station. I rode back to my hotel with a huge smile on my face, which brought more than a fair share of stares. Summary----------Looks: 7.5 (others would rate higher, but I prefer spinners)Oral skills: 8 (no deep throat)FS skills: 9Attitude: 9Class: 10Pampering: 10Feeling like the Shogun for 2 hours: priceless!So...would I do it again? If I were a richer man, yes, but right now another 90k yen would blow the budget for my AC trip in November (next on my bucket list), so I have to say no for now. Oh well...I'll be in Tokyo again some time.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Japanguy]I stopped reading when he hurt his dick. Maybe that turns you on but not me.[/QUOTE]Bro, I didnt write it to turn you or anyone on. It was a factual report. Moral of the story. She was a trooper, and BYOC.
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Well done
[QUOTE=Dbdoll]Ok, so I guess I should have provided a bit more detail on my brief soapland report other than the price. Here goesFor starters, no I was not drunk, and did not wake up wondering where my 90k yen (US $900) went. Rather, this was a planned experience. Going to a soapland has been on my bucket list for a while now, but since I was married I never thought I would get the chance. However, the wife and I recently parted ways, so I figured I would make this my "kickoff event", and saved up for it.Before marriage, I had done a bit of mini-mongering, but nothing too extravagant. I was in my twenties, overworked, and underpaid, so steered towards the cheap end and was usually disappointed. So, 15 years later (still overworked, but now well paid) I wanted my first "other woman" to be something memorable. Hence, the soapland experience. I was not disappointed.So, on to the details. Took the Hibiya line to Minowa station and walked to Martini soapland, using a Google map printout. Do not try this at home! Next time I will take a cab from the station. Walking around for 20 minutes in the September heat in Tokyo left me more than a bit sweaty (more on this later). Found my way there eventually, after dodging all the other Yoshiwara doormen along the way. Anyone who says gaijin can't get into a soapland hasn't walked through Yoshiwara...you have to almost fight off the offers. "Irashaimase!" says the doorman at Martini. He literally does a double take when I actually accept his offer and follow him inside. I was escorted into their waiting room and offered a seat. I speak very little Japanese, but can comprehend a fair amount when spoken to slowly, so was able to muddle my way through the negotiations, especially after he wrote 90k yen on a piece of paper. Having read this forum, I was aware that most soaplands will offer a non-inclusive price for the bath, but the true price for full service is 3-5 times that. The Martini website advertized 30k yen, so I figured full price was around 90-150k, but they were also advertizing a special good until Sept 11, offering 15k off. Anyway, I brought 90k...any more than that and I would have walked away. I produced the printout of their website offering a 15k discount. He made it clear that this did not apply to foreigners, which I pretty much expected...others may gripe about this and call it discrimination (which it is), but if you spend any time in Japan as a gaijin you know you just have to accept that it happens and move on...it is their country after all. I politely nodded my acknowledgement, and produced the 90k yen. Another double take...he didn't think I would follow through. I was offered a drink (whatever I wanted) while he went back to work out the details. He returned shortly with pictures of three girls. Their website showed quite a few more available that evening, but since I did not have a reservation my choices were limited. I chose one girl, only to have the guy disappear for a few minutes, then return with two pictures, saying "sorry, no gaijin". Ok, so choice number one doesn't want me...neither did my wife...I can take rejection and move on. I made my second choice, and 5 minutes later was ushered out of the waiting room and introduced to...?I'm really bad with names, and was a bit nervous, so I did not catch her name when she introduced herself. The pictures on the Martini website have the faces partially blocked, so I can't be sure which is her, but I think it was Natsumi...however I am very likely wrong. I'll call her Natsumi anyway for the sake of this report. Very attactive, though a bit larger than I prefer. Don't get me wrong, she was not fat...but more of a swimmer/gymast build, whereas given my choice I would prefer the lightweight "spinner" type. Looked about 27 or so years old (the website says Natsumi is 25). Anyway, no objections. She took me back to the room, which was not bad at all. Certainly a nice step up from the AMPs I visited from time to time as a younger man. I sat down on the bed and she started to undress me. When she took my shirt off, I remembered my sweaty walk from the station. "Choto kusai desu" I said in my broken Japanese, which is basically "I'm a bit stinky". "Daijobu desu!" she laughed...or "That's ok!". I can only imagine what they must put up with when some really drunk salary man shows up at closing time...I must not have been that bad. Anyway, for those who have seen one of those soapland themed JAV pornos, what followed next was a perfect rendition, so you may skip to the end. If you want details, read on. Ok, so we get down to the underwear. She puts a towel over my lap before removing my briefs, then goes to HJ while slowly removing the towel, followed by BBBJ. She motions me to lay down, then we 69 for a bit, then finish with her on top in cowgirl. She then offers me any drink of my choice while she prepares the bath. She calls up front, and my booze is delivered outside shortly there after with a subtle knock at the door. We chat in my broken Japanese for a while, which she complements several times. She is a very good liar :-). Bath is ready, but in the Japanese fashion you do not get into the bath while you are diry, you need to wash off first, so she sits me down on a "special seat" that has a strategically placed opening allowing your attendant to fully clean your privates. Lots of groping, kissing, HJ, and BBBJ action. After that, into the bath to relax for a bit while she pulls out the air mattress. She prepares whatever that lubricating stuff is they use in the soapland videos and invites me to lie down. I do not resist. Pretty soon I realized why she had the gymnast build. Slippery, sliding, sizzoring, sexy stuff follows for quite a while, with me alternating between laughing at the sounds (similar to "onara") and gasping at the sensations. I swear at one point it felt like she had a third working me. She then turned me over, more 69, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, etc.Ahhh.Washed off, then sat on the bed while she poured more booze for me and did her best to complement my Japanese again. After a few more drinks, it was off to the races again, more BBBJ, DATY, 69, cowgirl, doggy, and finished in good old missionary. Showered and bathed once more, then had a nitecap and goodnight kiss before parting ways. The doorman arranged a ride back to Minowa station. I rode back to my hotel with a huge smile on my face, which brought more than a fair share of stares. Summary----------Looks: 7.5 (others would rate higher, but I prefer spinners)Oral skills: 8 (no deep throat)FS skills: 9Attitude: 9Class: 10Pampering: 10Feeling like the Shogun for 2 hours: priceless!So...would I do it again? If I were a richer man, yes, but right now another 90k yen would blow the budget for my AC trip in November (next on my bucket list), so I have to say no for now. Oh well...I'll be in Tokyo again some time.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]And do not bother over some envious guys who cannot afford. Life is made of choices, and it is your right to prefer investing in one single "once-in-a-life-time" experience, rather than in 10 mediocre experiences...
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Yoshiwara price range
I'd like to hear from anyone about what they are paying for their courses these days at Yoshiwara. I've been twice to a place called lovers. First time was a Saturday night at 7pm. 35, 000 for 70 min. After that I checked their website and saw that they had lower rates before noon (most do). So the second time I dragged my ass out of bed early Sunday morning and made it to Yoshiwara by 10: 30, thinking I could get 70 minutes for 25, 000 this time. The guy first wrote 35, 000 on a sheet of paper. After I mentioned "Morning course" he knocked it down, but only down to 32, 000. At this point I said to myself "ok, you're a gaijin, so just take it. Don't *****". Anyway, is anyone finding anything for under 30, 000? Morning maybe? I know that below 20, 000 the quality would probably take a dip, but it would be nice to get in somewhere for 20, 000-25, 000. I'm starting to think that any ad on a website like "morning course" or "special campaign" just doesn't apply to us gaijin folk.
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[QUOTE=Dbdoll]Ok, so I guess I should have provided a bit more detail on my brief soapland report other than the price. Here goes[/QUOTE]Great report! Thank you for taking the time to calmly write down your experiences. I enjoyed reading your post and have no doubt that the encounter was a top notch experience.
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[QUOTE=Ice Tea13]Great report! Thank you for taking the time to calmly write down your experiences. I enjoyed reading your post and have no doubt that the encounter was a top notch experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback! A few additions/corrections to my post. First, I forgot to mention the rimming/HJ combo during the lubed air mattress session. Also, where I said "it felt like she had a third working me" I meant "third leg". Lastly, all FS was CFS. Used their condomns, which unlike most in Japan were not too tight. Did not find out the brand.
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[QUOTE=Dbdoll]Thanks for the feedback! A few additions/corrections to my post. First, I forgot to mention the rimming/HJ combo during the lubed air mattress session. Also, where I said "it felt like she had a third working me" I meant "third leg". Lastly, all FS was CFS. Used their condomns, which unlike most in Japan were not too tight. Did not find out the brand.[/QUOTE]Good report! I'll be headed back to Japan soon and might give that soapland a try though i read many pages back that Primma Donna has some non-famous JAV stars?I also made the same mistake of walking from the station to the soapland area, took forever and almost gave up. Thankfully searching soapland on google maps shows a few, and they are all around the same area.
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Otsuka tour
I tried about six BJ places in Otsuka, but they all turned me away. A few of the touts were apologetic but they referred me to a posted "no gaikokujin" policy. I went by Smiles, just to take a look at the scene. As mentioned in a previous report, there were about 20 guys in the lobby, waiting to get their knobs polished.
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Silky Doll
I occassionally go to Silky Doll. I think they have a 25, 000 yen for 70 min price. They have a few AV actresses in their roster. I'm not totally sure, but they may have a, "You must be with a Japanese, " rule. Their high end branch, Satin Doll that enforces that rule. I personally feel the quality and the price are fair here.[QUOTE=Captain Yonoi]I'd like to hear from anyone about what they are paying for their courses these days at Yoshiwara. I've been twice to a place called lovers. First time was a Saturday night at 7pm. 35, 000 for 70 min. After that I checked their website and saw that they had lower rates before noon (most do). So the second time I dragged my ass out of bed early Sunday morning and made it to Yoshiwara by 10: 30, thinking I could get 70 minutes for 25, 000 this time. The guy first wrote 35, 000 on a sheet of paper. After I mentioned "Morning course" he knocked it down, but only down to 32, 000. At this point I said to myself "ok, you're a gaijin, so just take it. Don't *****". Anyway, is anyone finding anything for under 30, 000? Morning maybe? I know that below 20, 000 the quality would probably take a dip, but it would be nice to get in somewhere for 20, 000-25, 000. I'm starting to think that any ad on a website like "morning course" or "special campaign" just doesn't apply to us gaijin folk.[/QUOTE]
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Imagine Massage (Gotanda)
Last week, I tried this women-run deli-massage in Gotanda.[url]http://www.imagine-tokyo.com/[/url]IMHO, their standard prices are too high (near deli-heru range) for their services, but the quality of masseuse working there appear to be excellent - probably due to their policies. I usually prefer to pick the girl, but here, I am willing to forego the selection for a much lower price.Once I got to Gotanda, I called the shop and got directions to the office - about a 2 minute walk from the station, on 6F of a small concrete building with Boo Cafe on the first floor (I believe that was the name). You may have to call several times as the line is often busy.WARNING: You will need conversational Japanese ability - the attendant cannot speak English.Once in the office, and re-assurances from me that I read their website and understand their policies, the guy explains their system. The masseuse are fully clothed and there is no touching. I opt for their 70min ichi-man yen course and ask him to suggest a hotel. He gives me a membership card with a member number, I suppose for anonymity. I walk to the hotel in a few minutes with the small map he gives me, pay the discounted 3400 for 100min, go to my room, and call back to let him know which room I am in.Saya-chan arrived in about 10 minutes; she was prettier than I expected. I have to admit that the photographer for the website is pretty good, but no complaints from me. She told me to select some scented oils and asked me to take a shower. She preps the shower, but I take it alone. I am nude for the massage, she is not. We chat in Japanese during the massage, which was fun for the practice and some information, but in the end, it was a little too much. In the last 15min, she gave me the best HJ that I've had in years. She was able to back off at the right time (repeated about 10 times) and continue, prolonging the pleasure. I usually have to tell the masseuse to slow down, but Saya-chan was just perfect. I had one hand on her thigh and tried to grope a little more, but she wouldn't allow it, so I didn't insist. Mind was numb for a couple hours after the experience... ...a good sign.I found out from her that she used to get about one foreigner per month (usually American), but with the bad economy, everything has slowed.Japanese Required: Beginner to ModerateDamage: 10k (70min) + 3400/Hotel (100min)Masseuse: 水川紗綾(みずかわさや)- Mizukawa SayaFace: 8Body: 9Massage Skills: 8HJ Skill: 10Overall Value: 8.5 (if you use the no-picking specials), 6 for regular pricesWould I repeat? Definitely. I don't consider this cheap, as I can go to a good pink salon around the corner for 7500, but a little variety in fuzoku is nice. Sometimes, when I feel like a good massage with a happy ending by someone of quality, this shop is on top of my list.If you do go, please do follow their rules, so they will continue to accept foreigners. Thank you.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Sekai ni Hitotsu Dake no Hana (Gotanda Pink Salon)
In my quest to "do as the Tokyo-ites do", I have been doing my best to monger as the locals do. One of my favorites is here in Gotanda. The photos are pretty accurate - there is some very high quality, somewhat younger girls here.[url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/[/url]Let's abbreviate this shop to SNHDNH.After reading many horror stories of foreigners losing access to certain shops, I have been reluctant to post this one. But after flipping back and forth and realizing how much I have gained from ISG, I decided that I should post. For those of you who are scratching their heads at the name, it refers to an ubiquitous SMAP song - if you don't know who SMAP is, forgettaboutit. Some preliminaries...Gaijin Accessibility: indeterminate. If you look Japanese and dress well, you can basically walk in and grunt at their questions. If you don't look Japanese, YMMV. A couple years ago, I visited their sister shop (even younger girls) down a few shops about five or six times until one of the providers took offense to my honest answer of being non-Japanese. This sister shop tried to make me leave without getting served. I complained in Japanese and would not budged until they refunded my money. They finally returned my cash after a 10 minute stand-off (prolly beginning to bother other customers at that point), when I told them if they returned my money, I would not come back to their shop. It's not the money - it's the principle - I will not pay if I am not serviced. After that bitter experience, I even avoided SNHDNH for about a year.Back to SNHDNH. They just about always ask the same questions.Q1. Would you like to pick? Which girl would you like?A1: Look on the wall of polaroids. The ones with ribbons are the girls who are in today. It helps a lot if you know your Japanese numbers up to 100 or so. Damage +2000 for choosing. Say "omakase" if you want avoid the fee and have them pick.Q2. Have you been with this girl before?A2: Doesn't make a big difference so just answer honestly. I think they ask so the girl provides better service by greeting you as someone they knew from before.Q3: Sometimes they will ask you: do you need to use the restroom?A3: If you say no, they will spray your hands with some disinfectant and lead you downstairs immediately.If you have been to a well-known blue-colored pink salon in Shimbashi that no longer accepts foreigners, you know how fashion health works (rtff if you don't know). SNHDNH is much bigger than that blue underground shop - about 5 times bigger I would say, and the quality and choices much better.You are led into a booth when they will ask you.Q4: What would you like to drink?A4: I usually just say oolong-cha (free). After a few minutes, the girl you picked will come into the booth and introduce herself. She will use some towels to wipe off your hands. I usually don't say anything, just smile, and start kissing and groping. In pink salon, usually anything short of FS is permitted, but I always back off if the girl doesn't like something I am doing. A bouncer will periodically walk the aisles to make sure no customer is hiding his sausage.The general rule is, if you undress her, you can have her sit on your lap, but you can't do that if both of you are naked. However, most girls will let you 69. There is a small hanger to hang your shirt and pants. DK is expected, but again, I tend to adjust depending on the girl. There is no set order to the play and if the girl is any good, she will go with your flow. At some point, she will begin to do a BBBJ. Skill levels vary, but is almost always better than in a fashion health or a Chinese esthe. Afterwards, the girl will wipe up and chat. Unlike the sister shop, in the 30+ times I have been to SNHDNH, I have had no problems telling the girl that I was a foreigner AFTER the service 8^)Here is a recent favorite.Damage: 7500 = 6500 + 2000 (charge for choosing) - 1000 (repeat card)No: 100Face: 8Body: 10BJ Skill: 8Intimacy/GF (YMMV): 9Value: 9Overall Shop Quality - cleanliness: excellent, girls: good-excellentBefore you leave, the girl will give you a card for a 1000yen discount the next time you come back - you can use it at any time for any girl. Once in a while you get lucky and get a straight-out 10. I still remember a kindergarden teacher a couple years back who was saving for a trip to Paris. Beautiful face, perfect body, great personality, GF-level service: straight-out 10 all the way... (in the opinion of someone who is unreasonably picky: me). Too bad I haven't seen her since.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Next time you are in Otsuka...
[QUOTE=Xslikx]I tried about six BJ places in Otsuka, but they all turned me away. A few of the touts were apologetic but they referred me to a posted "no gaikokujin" policy. I went by Smiles, just to take a look at the scene. As mentioned in a previous report, there were about 20 guys in the lobby, waiting to get their knobs polished.[/QUOTE]Next time you are in Otsuka, try this place:[url]http://www.paradise-bb.com/ginga/[/url]This is a Korean Este. What does that mean?NEGATIVE: fakey photos on the website - the ones at the counter are pretty accurate, though.POSITIVE: they usually do not reject foreignersThe place isn't that cheap, but the girl is all-nude and does a very good light-touch massage with a happy ending. Not a bad value. The place isn't that great, but there are individual rooms, so it's better than Chinese Este. Usually amongst the girls on any given day, one or two is a hottie.The girl will shower naked with you to clean you up, but you can't really fondle in the shower. After a rather good real massage with hot towels, she will do the classic Korean light-touch massage on your back and then fondle you from behind. She finishes with a HJ, during which time you can fondle her and play around, but generally, kissing is discouraged (YMMV).This is my experience from going there many times over the years, but I haven't been there recently.I've also tried one or two of those super-cheap Otsuka pink salons. Going to these places gives you the relief of release, but leaves you wondering what you may have caught in return. Yes, they are that dirty. Not recommended unless you are very very short on cash - to the extent that you are willing to risk your carrot and peas falling off the next day (I'm exaggerating, but these places are literally dirty).You are not missing much. Go check out the Korean place, instead.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Kirara
[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin]you pay about Y1000 for a "joining fee", and then about Y5000 for an "entrance fee", to get into the cafe itself.[/QUOTE]Actually the JPY entrance fee includes 2000 for actually getting in, and 3000 for free talk with the girls. Most people won't care about that detail, but that also means that if you're kind of "watch first" person, you're saving 3000.That's not it. After talking to the girl, if you decide to go (do whatever you fancy) with her you'll have to pay an extra Y5000 as "Thank you for having me go with her" fee. (Currently you only pay 3000)And THEN, you pay the girl. Since that place is not only about having sex (but also go together to karaoke, izakaya...) the rate depends of the girl. Basically she's going to ask you about Y5000 for a 1-2 hour drink, and a lot more if you want to get a bit down on her. And of course once you're out, you're going to pay everything (drinks, meal, hotel, karaoke...).So if you just want to get laid, I don't think it's a great idea since it's going to cost you something like Y35000.What IMHO makes Kirara still a great place is that you don't go there only for fuck. As said before, you can talk with the girls, have some fun with them, and maybe even meet them again later in private (which they all say, of course not always true)I just wanted to give some more info so that you people know where you're getting into. I think the last thing we all want is Gaijin going to some nice place like that and bully the staff because they didn't get the system. So please be nice (and yes, some japanese skills is a MUST)Thank you again Ultra Gaijin for your great input.PS : just a quick question : you said that all the girls you talked to said ok for Y20000, but did you get into conditions like time duration, services offered ?Thanks in advance.
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First time in Tokyo
After a long flight from Los Angeles, not getting my ATM card to work at the airport, traffic getting to the city, getting lost finding the hotel, I am here in Tokyo, my first time!Thanks for all of the great reports guys, as usual they are very valuable.Only here tonight and tomorrow night, I leave on the 15th.Mike
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Sugamo BJ Alley ? Jan Jan
With the help of the great directions and the photos finding the place was easy. Thanks!Told the guy outside I didn?t speak any Japanese, he said OK, 3,000 Y, I went downstairs, was met by an old woman, she took the 3,000, led me to a booth. Very dark inside but you could see/hear some activity in a couple other booths. I waited maybe 10 minutes when Aki came in with a handful of hot moist towels. She was 20?s, short and thin, very cute and sweet.She cleaned everything up, removed her nightgown, slid over on my lap and started kissing me, lots of open mouth tongue and DFK, very hot, as she stroked me and I rubbed her tits and then down to here trimmed snatch.When I was rock hard she slid down and started licking and kissing my dick and balls, then she went to work, OMG, she knew her stuff and wasn?t going to be denied my load. I managed to hold out for about 20 minutes before I exploded in her mouth, she didn?t quit sucking until I was limp and dry then she spit into one of the cloths. She drank some of my tea and we kissed some more.She got dressed, left for a minute, came back with a Janjan business card with her name and hours. Aki, 12:00 to 18:00, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, also sometimes on Sunday. There was also a little note; ?If you come, I may be happy, heart, by Aki?I saw 2 other girls walking around, both blond but I couldn?t tell nationally.Mike
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Nakameguro97,Thanks so much for such a great report.I noticed looks like the girls are wearing costumes in the photos.So they gnerally wear schoolgirl costumes with loose socks?
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SNHDNH - Costumes
[QUOTE=Radar1]Nakameguro97,Thanks so much for such a great report.I noticed looks like the girls are wearing costumes in the photos.So they gnerally wear schoolgirl costumes with loose socks?[/QUOTE]Radar1,Glad you found it useful. The costumes change on a daily basis.I have seen the girls in the school uniform costumes you see in the photos.Sometimes, the costumes are announced here:[url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/main.php[/url]For example, it says that Sunday is ミニスカポリ or mini-skirt police.Last Thursday was 女教師 or female teacher.Last Wednesday was also mini-skirt police.If you manage to get in, there are posters on the wall of the booth describing which days are which costumes. I usually don't pay too much attention to them because for me at least, the girl (who may not be there every day) takes precedence over the uniform. But I know how you feel, sometimes I just feel like a nurse costume, or a mini-skirt.
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First time in Tokyo - Part 1
As I come to the end of my first visit to Japan, I feel I should contribute a report in return for the invaluable info I have gained from this forum. It definitely made a difference.My base of operations has been in Shibuya, which has made it easy to get to the various places mentioned on this forum. Also, I might add, I was surprised by the number of women working the streets. Primarily on Dogenzaka, as you walk away from Shibuya Station. I got a fair number of propositions, but didn't go with any of them. Didn't want to fight the language battle, plus assumed most would be a scam of some sort. Some were pretty decent looking.Instead, I opted for the tried and true Gaijin options.First, Jan Jan in Sugamo. Very easy to find. Just a rock's throw from the station. They were very welcoming and charged me 4000 yen. Didn't quite expect the exposed lounge set-up, but it seemed discreet enough. Eventually a woman came by (didn't get name or details). And after I established that I did not know Japanese, she just went to business. No "foreplay" of any sort, just straight to BBBJ (after we used the hand towels). She dropped her top and took off her panties and I proceeded to finger her. But when I hit a string, I got a bit turned off. Luckily I didn't end up with blood on my finger. The BJ was very good. She knew how to do it well. And I walked away satisfiedSecond, I went to Emotions in Gotanda.Before I go on, I should point out something that I hadn't really picked up on this forum. Although these places are gaijin-friendly and will accept our business, DO NOT assume that they will speak anything but Japanese to you. Even after you display your total lack of comperhension, they will still ramble off whatever they need to say in Japanese. Just smile and say "Hai".So, back to Emotions. Found the place easily. Actually, the directions (with pictures) on their website makes it look overly complicated. It's very close to the station. I must have picked a bad time to go, or just entered after a group of others, because I ended up sitting and waiting, with 2 other guys, for a bit until the girls freed up. One Japanese guy next to me was friendly and started a conversation with me in English. Very nice of him, but awkward considering we were both sitting there waiting to get our dicks sucked.(and I think I ended up getting the same girl that did him). The guy running the door did not speak a word of English, but through gestures and such we were able to communicate. He charged me the expected 7000 yen. I think he asked me if I wanted 1 or 2 girls. I just said 1, because I didn't know if I had 2 shots in me.So, I finally get called in, and was again surprised by the layout. Seemed like someone's basement with a bunch of sofas, all facing forward. I was seated in the front one and ended up waiting another bit of time before the girl arrived.(again, no name or details of who she was). And I have to say, WOW. That was the best BJ experience of my life. She made love with her mouth. She had one of those squeaky Japanese voices that I love, and a great body. Nice little titties, with big ol' peanut M&M nipples. After the standard use of hand towels, she surprised me by starting with nice, gentle kissing (thankfully, she had nice minty fresh breath, so I know she rinsed out the previous guy). Nice tongue play. She strattled my lap (my pants still on) and kissed me for a nice long time, with her top off. Then she eventually took off her panties and I dropped my pants and she proceeded with the BBBJ, and I started to finger her nice tight pussy. As I said before, the BJ was stellar. My cumshots aren't that big, but it felt like I shot 3 or 4 loads worth into her mouth, and she took it all (and eventually spit it out into the towel). I walked out of there a VERY happy man.BTW, there seem to be other places on other streets around the station and I did get a couple of propositions from touts, but I had my destination in mind already.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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First time in Tokyo - Part II
Today, being my last day in Japan, I decided to try out Grimpeur (666).I have to say, they have a very informative website, so I was able to see who would be on duty when. Not that I really had a choice, I was at the mercy of what they presented to me. I went there about 1:15pm and again, while my business was welcomed, communication by them was completely in Japanese. We managed to get through it. At first he only presented one woman. She looked nice enough, but then he put up 2 others. I chose Black Saki Nyina (her translated name on the website. God bless Google Toolbar Translate. Pictures from the website attached). Not because she was one of the discounted girls today, but because she was the youngest of the three (21. Allegedly, although probably not far off). So I got her for an hour for 14, 000 yen. And the guy actually asked me flat out if I wanted sex, to which I said yes. They told me to return at 2pm. So I had a half hour to kill walking around Love Hotel Hill.I returned at 2pm and the assistant took me down the street to a love hotel, the one next to the shrine. Got a room for 90 minutes for 2, 500 yen. And went up and waited. About 10-15 minutes later, the girl arrived. Very cute in person. And a great personality. And she spoke excellent English! Put me totally at ease and we had a great time together. Shower, then onto the bed for body kisses and a nice BBBJ. She asked me if I ever did Sumata, which I hadn't but had heard about, so I gave it a go. Very nice. Really feels like your doing the real thing. She seemed to really get into it. Unfortunately, she had applied loads of gooey lube for this, so it kinda ruled out me moving on to DATY. Oh well. I wasn't sure if sex was guaranteed, so I asked her if we could do "honban", which was no problem. The hotel had some condoms laid out, but she didn't seem to impressed by them. I told her I had my own (good ol' Durex). She then told me about how Japanese condoms are small and how Japanese men are small (she demonstated with her fingers. They are small! )So, then she hopped on and we proceeded to have sex. She was a bit of a screamer (or at least loud moaner) and seemed to enjoy the event. As did I. Eventually her timer went off and we had to hit the shower and wrap it up.Overall, an excellent experience. I highly recommend her, especially if you're intimidated about the language. She was cute and fun, and a young Japanese girl willing to screw a gaijin. What more could you ask for?[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Although I haven't been to this shop in a little while, I will vouch for its quality if you can get in. It is a pretty large operation for a pink salon. Depending on the girl, some will require you to put on a jacket. The overall quality of the girls are pretty high, but again I think this shop is a little more expensive than the ones in Sugamo and Otsuka. The facilities were also very clean too.[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]In my quest to "do as the Tokyo-ites do", I have been doing my best to monger as the locals do. One of my favorites is here in Gotanda. The photos are pretty accurate - there is some very high quality, somewhat younger girls here.[url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/[/url]Let's abbreviate this shop to SNHDNH.After reading many horror stories of foreigners losing access to certain shops, I have been reluctant to post this one. But after flipping back and forth and realizing how much I have gained from ISG, I decided that I should post. For those of you who are scratching their heads at the name, it refers to an ubiquitous SMAP song - if you don't know who SMAP is, forgettaboutit. Some preliminaries...Gaijin Accessibility: indeterminate. If you look Japanese and dress well, you can basically walk in and grunt at their questions. If you don't look Japanese, YMMV. A couple years ago, I visited their sister shop (even younger girls) down a few shops about five or six times until one of the providers took offense to my honest answer of being non-Japanese. This sister shop tried to make me leave without getting served. I complained in Japanese and would not budged until they refunded my money. They finally returned my cash after a 10 minute stand-off (prolly beginning to bother other customers at that point), when I told them if they returned my money, I would not come back to their shop. It's not the money - it's the principle - I will not pay if I am not serviced. After that bitter experience, I even avoided SNHDNH for about a year.Back to SNHDNH. They just about always ask the same questions.Q1. Would you like to pick? Which girl would you like?A1: Look on the wall of polaroids. The ones with ribbons are the girls who are in today. It helps a lot if you know your Japanese numbers up to 100 or so. Damage +2000 for choosing. Say "omakase" if you want avoid the fee and have them pick.Q2. Have you been with this girl before?A2: Doesn't make a big difference so just answer honestly. I think they ask so the girl provides better service by greeting you as someone they knew from before.Q3: Sometimes they will ask you: do you need to use the restroom?A3: If you say no, they will spray your hands with some disinfectant and lead you downstairs immediately.If you have been to a well-known blue-colored pink salon in Shimbashi that no longer accepts foreigners, you know how fashion health works (rtff if you don't know). SNHDNH is much bigger than that blue underground shop - about 5 times bigger I would say, and the quality and choices much better.You are led into a booth when they will ask you.Q4: What would you like to drink?A4: I usually just say oolong-cha (free). After a few minutes, the girl you picked will come into the booth and introduce herself. She will use some towels to wipe off your hands. I usually don't say anything, just smile, and start kissing and groping. In pink salon, usually anything short of FS is permitted, but I always back off if the girl doesn't like something I am doing. A bouncer will periodically walk the aisles to make sure no customer is hiding his sausage.The general rule is, if you undress her, you can have her sit on your lap, but you can't do that if both of you are naked. However, most girls will let you 69. There is a small hanger to hang your shirt and pants. DK is expected, but again, I tend to adjust depending on the girl. There is no set order to the play and if the girl is any good, she will go with your flow. At some point, she will begin to do a BBBJ. Skill levels vary, but is almost always better than in a fashion health or a Chinese esthe. Afterwards, the girl will wipe up and chat. Unlike the sister shop, in the 30+ times I have been to SNHDNH, I have had no problems telling the girl that I was a foreigner AFTER the service 8^)Here is a recent favorite.Damage: 7500 = 6500 + 2000 (charge for choosing) - 1000 (repeat card)No: 100Face: 8Body: 10BJ Skill: 8Intimacy/GF (YMMV): 9Value: 9Overall Shop Quality - cleanliness: excellent, girls: good-excellentBefore you leave, the girl will give you a card for a 1000yen discount the next time you come back - you can use it at any time for any girl. Once in a while you get lucky and get a straight-out 10. I still remember a kindergarden teacher a couple years back who was saving for a trip to Paris. Beautiful face, perfect body, great personality, GF-level service: straight-out 10 all the way... (in the opinion of someone who is unreasonably picky: me). Too bad I haven't seen her since.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
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Met a lady on the train back to the hotel
So I?ve got my stupid map in hand trying to make sure I?m going the right way and this lovely Japanese lady starts talking to me, asking if I am lost, where I?m from, first time visiting Tokyo, etc., her English is good, tell me she went to Portland once.I told her about my getting lost all the time and that I sure hoped I could find my back to the hotel, she then offers to go with me to find it, I tell her, if you don?t mind that would be great and I?ll buy you dinner too, she accepts and we exit the train. She has to make a couple of calls first and we are on our way.We are walking through Sunshine shopping area and she says she want to eat at Denny?s of all places. We had a wonderful time talking about Tokyo, Los Angeles, her life, my life, a little flirting that turned into sexual hints, it was fun. I felt I was getting a green light but was taking it slow and easy not wanting to mess it up. And at this point I felt that if nothing happened, like what are the odds anyways, I had a great time with her so nothing lost anyways.We left Denny?s headed to my hotel, soon she was holding onto my arm, we did some window shopping, she never even hinted at anything, people watched, which is always fun to do, we sure weren?t in any hurry, just enjoying each others company. I would say that the walk from Ikrbukuro exit to my hotel is about 8 minutes, it took us about an hour.We?re walking down this small street when she sees a Karaoke place and wants to go in, we?re right across from my hotel now, so we go in. We are having a blast, she is singing, it?s all Japanese so I just watched. In the booth things start to heat up, lots of closeness, snuggling, holding hands and hugging, and then she kissed me, nothing much really, just a peck on the lips but it sure was a green light, I then kissed her and each kiss became more passionate. We stayed about an hour, she had 2 beers, when she said we better finish finding the hotel.We walked out hanging all over each other, walked about 30 steps and we were at my hotel, I asked her if she would like to come up, she looked at her watch and said only for a little while, we head up to the room.My room is basis and small, but clean and only $70.00 USD, so there?s nowhere to sit but on the bed, one thing leads to another and we are making out like teenagers, she was shy but passionate and never even hinted to stop. When some of our clothes were off she said she had to make a call and then we were back at it.She spent the night and we made love 3 times. She left at 6:00 AM to go home and get ready for work.She was Japanese, 37 years old, very cute, sweet, about 4?5? and maybe 80 pounds, single with one girl, lives with her mother and works in a bank.Keep smiling and be friendly you never know what you?ll find.Mike
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Struck out in Takatanobaba at 4 places
You really have to know some Japanese in order to get the directions over the phone![url]http://www.otokonorakuen-s.com/[/url][url]http://www.tulip-k.net/[/url][url]http://www.hichu200.com/[/url][url]www.tokyo-s-p-m.com[/url]Should have had some back-up with me.Well I didn?t so I paid another visit at Jen Jen and had a great time with Aki so the trip wasn?t a total waste.Mike
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Thanks for the great reports Thedeno and ReallyaNiceGuy. You give us all hope.
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For those who can speak some Japanese these places accept foreigners. Well it depends on the girl - usually they have to check with each girl when you call to make a reservation.[url]http://www.sw-sp.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-hana.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-chaya.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-doll.com/silky/[/url][url]http://www.utage.tv/[/url][url]http://www.de-prism.jp/[/url][url]http://www.real-tokyo.jp[/url][url]http://www.loveimage.jp[/url] [url]http://www.honey-girl.jp[/url][url]http://www.pure-girl.jp[/url][url]http://deli-o-g.com/[/url]Please please be polite. If they say no just apologize and hang up and don't try to argue with them about other foreigners able to get in. It does require enough Japanese to make a simple reservation over the phone, so please do not try unless you have confidence in this.Let us know how it goes!
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Met a lady on the train back to the hotel
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]So I?ve got my stupid map in hand trying to make sure I?m going the right way and this lovely Japanese lady starts talking to me, asking if I am lost, where I?m from, first time visiting Tokyo, etc., her English is good, tell me she went to Portland once...............................Mike[/QUOTE]Welcome to the magic world of nampa; the "lost tourist" bit has got to be one of the easiest ways to actually get picked up by a J-girl.Down here in Sydney, it works in reverse. Find a J-girl puzzling over a map, and offer to help. Usually they are out in pairs, so you can get double the fun.
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Wouah!!!
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]So I?ve got my stupid map in hand trying to make sure I?m going the right way and this lovely Japanese lady starts talking to me, asking if I am lost, where I?m from, first time visiting Tokyo, etc., her English is good, tell me she went to Portland once.I told her about my getting lost all the time and that I sure hoped I could find my back to the hotel, she then offers to go with me to find it, I tell her, if you don?t mind that would be great and I?ll buy you dinner too, she accepts and we exit the train. She has to make a couple of calls first and we are on our way.We are walking through Sunshine shopping area and she says she want to eat at Denny?s of all places. We had a wonderful time talking about Tokyo, Los Angeles, her life, my life, a little flirting that turned into sexual hints, it was fun. I felt I was getting a green light but was taking it slow and easy not wanting to mess it up. And at this point I felt that if nothing happened, like what are the odds anyways, I had a great time with her so nothing lost anyways.We left Denny?s headed to my hotel, soon she was holding onto my arm, we did some window shopping, she never even hinted at anything, people watched, which is always fun to do, we sure weren?t in any hurry, just enjoying each others company. I would say that the walk from Ikrbukuro exit to my hotel is about 8 minutes, it took us about an hour.We?re walking down this small street when she sees a Karaoke place and wants to go in, we?re right across from my hotel now, so we go in. We are having a blast, she is singing, it?s all Japanese so I just watched. In the booth things start to heat up, lots of closeness, snuggling, holding hands and hugging, and then she kissed me, nothing much really, just a peck on the lips but it sure was a green light, I then kissed her and each kiss became more passionate. We stayed about an hour, she had 2 beers, when she said we better finish finding the hotel.We walked out hanging all over each other, walked about 30 steps and we were at my hotel, I asked her if she would like to come up, she looked at her watch and said only for a little while, we head up to the room.My room is basis and small, but clean and only $70.00 USD, so there?s nowhere to sit but on the bed, one thing leads to another and we are making out like teenagers, she was shy but passionate and never even hinted to stop. When some of our clothes were off she said she had to make a call and then we were back at it.She spent the night and we made love 3 times. She left at 6:00 AM to go home and get ready for work.She was Japanese, 37 years old, very cute, sweet, about 4?5? and maybe 80 pounds, single with one girl, lives with her mother and works in a bank.Keep smiling and be friendly you never know what you?ll find.Mike[/QUOTE]You must be a really nice guy....
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[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]We are walking through Sunshine shopping area and she says she want to eat at Denny?s of all places. [/QUOTE]There's a DENNY'S in Japan??? Wow, when will that franchise come over to other Asian countries? I miss Denny's....
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[QUOTE=BruceTea]There's a DENNY'S in Japan??? Wow, when will that franchise come over to other Asian countries? I miss Denny's....[/QUOTE]I went for the first time a few weeks ago. The Denny's in Japan are even crappier than the American original. I didn't think it could be done.
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[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]4?5?[/QUOTE]Really??ES
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[QUOTE=Jinashi]For those who can speak some Japanese these places accept foreigners. Well it depends on the girl - usually they have to check with each girl when you call to make a reservation.[url]http://www.sw-sp.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-hana.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-chaya.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-doll.com/silky/[/url][url]http://www.utage.tv/[/url][url]http://www.de-prism.jp/[/url][url]http://www.real-tokyo.jp[/url][url]http://www.loveimage.jp[/url] [url]http://www.honey-girl.jp[/url][url]http://www.pure-girl.jp[/url][url]http://deli-o-g.com/[/url]Please please be polite. If they say no just apologize and hang up and don't try to argue with them about other foreigners able to get in. It does require enough Japanese to make a simple reservation over the phone, so please do not try unless you have confidence in this.Let us know how it goes![/QUOTE]Very nice, Jinashi!Thanks for posting this.
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[QUOTE=BruceTea]There's a DENNY'S in Japan??? Wow, when will that franchise come over to other Asian countries? I miss Denny's....[/QUOTE]Yeah, DENNY's is what you should focus on in that story :)
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[QUOTE=Jinashi]For those who can speak some Japanese these places accept foreigners. Well it depends on the girl - usually they have to check with each girl when you call to make a reservation.[url]http://www.honey-girl.jp[/url][/QUOTE]I went with Honey Girl once and I can't recommend them. They told me the two girls I was interested in were busy, but they would send a girl who they thought was good. They asked me where I was from and when I told them I was American the said they had the perfect girl. I was a bit skeptical and rightly so, the girl they sent was large and plain.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]I went with Honey Girl once and I can't recommend them. They told me the two girls I was interested in were busy, but they would send a girl who they thought was good. They asked me where I was from and when I told them I was American the said they had the perfect girl. I was a bit skeptical and rightly so, the girl they sent was large and plain.[/QUOTE]I make a point never to accept recommendations from them. You can assume you will always get a large and/or unattractive girl that nobody ever picks, regardless of which place you use. If they don't have the girls I'm looking for, I try the next place.
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[QUOTE=Little Jared]Yeah, DENNY's is what you should focus on in that story :)[/QUOTE]Yeah. That 's cause freebies like that never happen to me. I mean, the girl sounds like a real cool babe who made a guy's trip freakin unbelievable. The closest I've gotten to something like that is when I'm picking up a girl at the club. But I've always been too chicken to go further and further with her. It's like something is unconsciously telling me "what's the catch?" In any case, I can see what I would do in agoodguy's situation. I would end the evening with only her phone number and go back to the hotel alone. Of course I'd be kicking myself but that's me.I've heard a few stories not only in Japan, but in other parts of Asia, where the girl picks up the guy and end up with an unexpected romp. Crazy stuff. But let's get back to Denny's. Do the japanese Denny's offer the grand slam breakfast? the slamwich? moon over my hammy?
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[QUOTE=BruceTea]There's a DENNY'S in Japan??? Wow, when will that franchise come over to other Asian countries? I miss Denny's....[/QUOTE]Denny's has been in Japan for at least 15 years, maybe longer - I remember going to one in Shinjuku in the early 90s. And yes, it is crappier than in the states - one thing that stuck out in that memory is that breakfast items were only available until like 10 am.
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[QUOTE=Stew2]Denny's has been in Japan for at least 15 years, maybe longer - I remember going to one in Shinjukui in the early 90s. And yes, it is crappier than in the states - one thing that stuck out in that memory is that breakfast items were only available until like 10 am.[/QUOTE]To be fair, most people don't go there to eat breakfast. It's often treated as a late night dessert place.
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[QUOTE=Zcorps]To be fair, most people don't go there to eat breakfast. It's often treated as a late night dessert place.[/QUOTE]Not only that, Japanese often go to places like MacDonald's, Denny's, MOS Burgers or Jonathan's not for the food, but actually for a place to hang out or to study. Also, Denny's and Jonathan's are good for being open 24/7. Young people will often hang out there overnight when they miss the last train (to avoid paying for a place to stay or to avoid the $100+ cab fare out to the 'burbs).
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[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Not only that, Japanese often go to places like MacDonald's, Denny's, MOS Burgers or Jonathan's not for the food, but actually for a place to hang out or to study. Also, Denny's and Jonathan's are good for being open 24/7. Young people will often hang out there overnight when they miss the last train (to avoid paying for a place to stay or to avoid the $100+ cab fare out to the 'burbs).[/QUOTE]In addition to this, you'll see a lot of families with children there and lot of school girls/boy teams/pairs. Everything being relative, I don't think the food is crappy - YMMV this is highly individualistic thing. The fact however is that most of the food is NOT microwaved (unlike in the states), coffee refills are free, and it's relatively inexpensive. I frequently go to the one next to where I live, especially if I want to have a quick and decent breakfast. But no they wouldn't have the same food you'll find in the States, but you can get a traditional Japanese breakfast of rice, miso sup, and salmon.
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Asian Relax
I visited Asian Relax (the Thai massage place in Shinjuku with HJ endings) and after I was done the girl gave me a small piece of paper with the company's phone numbers/address etc on it. I didn't think anything of it until I got home when I noticed she had also written her name and what seem to me to be her personal mobile phone number and email on it.I've been there enough times to know this is not standard practise. Has this happened to anyone else? I have no idea what the intended purpose of that information she gave me is. Does she want to go out with me? Provide "extra" services outside of her working hours somewhere else for more money? Or does she just expect me to ask her when she's going to be working if I want to see her specifically again?
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Need help in Tokyo for the first time
Hello, I'm new in this forum, I will visit tokyo in Sep, 26-27, I want to know what is the best place in tokyo to hangout or making love with girls, because this is my first time in Tokyo. If someone can accompany me that's will be a great help for me. Please send me a private message if you don't mind.Thanks
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[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin]Welcome to the magic world of nampa; the "lost tourist" bit has got to be one of the easiest ways to actually get picked up by a J-girl.Down here in Sydney, it works in reverse. Find a J-girl puzzling over a map, and offer to help. Usually they are out in pairs, so you can get double the fun.[/QUOTE]I hear ya AussieGaijin. During my two years in Seattle, I met many a J-gal that way. Especially easy living smack in the middle of downtown.
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Not sure about this case but I've had providers give me their keitai and private email address. I don't make too much of it. I usually write to them from a special email I keep for this purpose, thanking them for the service and whatever but a professional lady is the last person I'd ever think about establishing an outside relationship with. Too much baggage, regardless of how much feeling you have for them.Just my guess but I think she may just want to establish a repeat business relationship with you? The economy here is pretty tough and repeat business is very important to these ladies. I have one that I see about once per month or maybe every other month. It's a nice professional relationship, almost like with the lady who cuts my hair in Kamata, except this lady gives blowjobs and provides happy endings for a living. She's really quite plain looking, almost homely but has a great personality and works hard at doing a good job with me. I always bring her a small gift, usually a small box of candy or wagashi. A cash tip would not be proper and would set a very bad precedent. 500JPY worth of candy or wagashi is a nice investment to ensure superb service, though. Never had FS, never asked for it (a no-no at legitimate, licensed healths, anyway) and always leave with a smile.Additionally, I'm not interested in establishing any friendship or relationship. That's why I pay cash for it. Things are much easier and cleaner that way.[QUOTE=Wagenbach]I visited Asian Relax (the Thai massage place in Shinjuku with HJ endings) and after I was done the girl gave me a small piece of paper with the company's phone numbers/address etc on it. I didn't think anything of it until I got home when I noticed she had also written her name and what seem to me to be her personal mobile phone number and email on it.I've been there enough times to know this is not standard practise. Has this happened to anyone else? I have no idea what the intended purpose of that information she gave me is. Does she want to go out with me? Provide "extra" services outside of her working hours somewhere else for more money? Or does she just expect me to ask her when she's going to be working if I want to see her specifically again?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Well I booked my session with Mako of AM. I guess I tend more for the slim girl. I will report back after the session.[/QUOTE]Mako is not slim. She is dangerously anorexic. If she hadn't been wearing the cosplay-option I asked her to, and if Manami hadn't been there for the threesome, Mako would have been sent packing and exchanged for another girl.Yes, she is a very nice girl, but DAMN! seeing her look like a death camp survivor in the pre-event shower was a real turn off. Thank god Manami was there to save me any embarrassment.
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Asian Relax n more..sorta..
[QUOTE=Wagenbach]I visited Asian Relax (the Thai massage place in Shinjuku with HJ endings) and after I was done the girl gave me a small piece of paper with the company's phone numbers/address etc on it. I didn't think anything of it until I got home when I noticed she had also written her name and what seem to me to be her personal mobile phone number and email on it.I've been there enough times to know this is not standard practise. Has this happened to anyone else? I have no idea what the intended purpose of that information she gave me is. Does she want to go out with me? Provide "extra" services outside of her working hours somewhere else for more money? Or does she just expect me to ask her when she's going to be working if I want to see her specifically again?[/QUOTE]It happened to me my first visit, and it never happened again. I didn't follow up. Been there quite a lot since too;)
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[QUOTE=Homer69]Not sure about this case but I've had providers give me their keitai and private email address. I don't make too much of it. Just my guess but I think she may just want to establish a repeat business relationship with you[/QUOTE]I agree. She is a worker in a service industry, and gets paid according to how many customers she has. Repeat customers are essential, unless it is one of these high traffic, cheap BJ establishments.
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Sugamno
I guess it no black guys allowed in the blow job spot. I went today and was turned away by three of the joints. Is it only three spot there or is it more. I was fuckin [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] because it took my an hour by train to get down there. So in all i spent to hours of my valuable time doing shit.
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[QUOTE=Lion]I agree. She is a worker in a service industry, and gets paid according to how many customers she has. Repeat customers are essential, unless it is one of these high traffic, cheap BJ establishments.[/QUOTE]Even the girls at those places prefer repeat customers. I don't know if it gives the girl a sense of security or not, but ask those girls, they'd almost definitely prefer repeats over brand new people.That being said, girls that work in this industry are pretty "direct" when it comes to dating you. At least in my experience. The times when I've been given the green light for dating, they usually would say something along the lines of "It's ok if you just want to hang out."
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[QUOTE=Zcorps]Even the girls at those places prefer repeat customers. I don't know if it gives the girl a sense of security or not, but ask those girls, they'd almost definitely prefer repeats over brand new people.[/QUOTE]I would imagine that a repeat customer gives a girl a better standing within the shop. A repeat customer is obviously happy with the good service, and might even tell his friends about it.
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NYNY Ueno
I don't believe that I've ever seen this reported here.NYNY has a website.[url]http://newyork2.jp/[/url]
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[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]With the help of the great directions and the photos finding the place was easy. Thanks!Told the guy outside I didn?t speak any Japanese, he said OK, 3,000 Y, I went downstairs, was met by an old woman, she took the 3,000, led me to a booth. Very dark inside but you could see/hear some activity in a couple other booths. I waited maybe 10 minutes when Aki came in with a handful of hot moist towels. She was 20?s, short and thin, very cute and sweet.She cleaned everything up, removed her nightgown, slid over on my lap and started kissing me, lots of open mouth tongue and DFK, very hot, as she stroked me and I rubbed her tits and then down to here trimmed snatch.When I was rock hard she slid down and started licking and kissing my dick and balls, then she went to work, OMG, she knew her stuff and wasn?t going to be denied my load. I managed to hold out for about 20 minutes before I exploded in her mouth, she didn?t quit sucking until I was limp and dry then she spit into one of the cloths. She drank some of my tea and we kissed some more.She got dressed, left for a minute, came back with a Janjan business card with her name and hours. Aki, 12:00 to 18:00, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, also sometimes on Sunday. There was also a little note; ?If you come, I may be happy, heart, by Aki?I saw 2 other girls walking around, both blond but I couldn?t tell nationally.Mike[/QUOTE]I've had Aki the other week, got the exact same card. Best I've had at Jan Jan! Personally didn't go for the DFK but will repeat with her. Trick is with Jan Jan is to either go ealy afternoon or early evening (after 18:00, when the shifts start then you get the girls at their best.Previously made the mistake of going at about 5pm, had a chubby girl who seemed stoned out of her head and was waiting for the end of her shift.
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Pearl in Takadanobaba-- used to be Pinky-T
This report may be of marginal value, but I did check out another Chinese esute in Takadanobaba recently. Called up Pearl in Takadanobaba, and the place is the old Pinky-T-- same building, same floor, same apartment, same shabby surroundings. For those who have never been, you get out the Waseda exit of Takadanobaba station on the JR Yamanote line. Turn right on Waseda-dori. Go straight for about 2-3 blocks, until you pass an Excelsior on your right. After that, there should be a real estate store on your right. After that, on your right, there should be a building in a little alcove lined with tobacco machines. Go in the building, take the elevator to the 5th floor. It is the same building as Tulip-K. There is nothing special about this place, it is if anything even shabbier than the other Chinese esutes in the area. I think they are all owned by the same company or something, I recognize the same modus operandi with all of the establishments. I didn't have to wait to get the girl I wanted in the picture (Y8,000 for one hour), but holy crap when I saw her, she was about 15 years older than her picture. I can't complain about the service, she tried really hard, but I basically had to close my eyes the whole time to get through it. My friend had a similar experience-- the girl had to be at least 15 years older than her picture, and had terrible breath to boot. The papa-san was polite and nice, and the place is gaijin-friendly, but this has got to be one of the lower-level options I have seen. In my opinion, cheap and gaijin-friendly, but you get what you pay for. I would go to Tulip-K, on the 3rd floor of the same building, for the money.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Shibuya--Dougenzaka fashion healths
Took a trip out to Shibuya, to walk around Love Hotel Hill on Dougenzaka. Walking around up by Grimpeur/666, I noted that the touts for the hotel healths and fashion healths in that area- there are about a dozen all clustered in those alleys around Grimpeur- were welcoming gaikokujins. Several of the touts standing around approached me, and I struck up casual conversations with some of them. They mentioned that business was bad, the economy sucks, and most of them stated that their establishments would certainly take gaikokujins, IF THEY SPOKE JAPANESE. The guys mentioned that the girls have to be able to communicate with the customers, and tell them what is and isn't allowed, but they did say to bring my gaikokujin friends, because business is bad.The place is definitely hopping, with all the p4p information booths there, because just while standing around fiddling with my phone, I saw several couples coming out of the little love hotels in that area, having obviously just completed the act.
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Korean hostess clubs in Kabukicho or Akasaka
This may be a long shot, but I'm looking for Korean p4p establishments, where I don't have to go through the process of checking into a love hotel beforehand and calling a KDH. I have been looking for Korean FS esutes, or seku-kyaba, or anything like that. I have heard that there are Korean hostess bars with some p4p in Kabukicho or Akasaka-- has anyone heard anything about this? Would be very grateful for any info. Also, somewhat off-topic, if anyone has any information on nampa for Korean girls, it would be most welcome.
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[QUOTE=Adimu26]I guess it no black guys allowed in the blow job spot. I went today and was turned away by three of the joints. Is it only three spot there or is it more. I was fuckin [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] because it took my an hour by train to get down there. So in all i spent to hours of my valuable time doing shit.[/QUOTE]I get the same treatment when I try to go to Jan Jan's also. The majority of the time I get turned away but the three times they did let me in I always got the same girl with bad breath. I'm not sure what her name is but she looks as if she's in her late 30's and slim.
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Struck out at Grimpeur 666
I couldn?t for the life of me find this place. I finally gave up looking and just walked around some of the side streets, they looked interesting, and there it was. There was a guy outside talking on the phone, I showed him my note, he nodded that it was the it, then with his little English asked if I called, I told him that I hadn?t, he told me I had to call first, I went back to the main street, found a phone booth and called, I was told Japanese only.Maybe this will help for directions, when facing 109 take the road on the left, the street will be on your right, see photo. There is a payphone on the main street at the entrance. Mike
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Last ditch effort
i had the number of a chinese girl from craigslist, michelle, we exchanged a few emails, so i decided to call her, she answered, said i could come right over, she gave me some vague directions how to find her hotel after i got off at the shinjuku station, there?s more than one exit and ended up walking around the stations several times looking for it and finally gave up, by now i?m hot and tired so i called her and told her i wasn?t coming.headed back to the hotel, was really beat, called the front desk to inquire about the in-room massage they offered, no one available tonight, so much for 24 hours.i?d exchanged emails with a woman from craigslist, therapeutic section, that offered a full body massage for 3,000, called her and she said she would be at my hotel at 9 pm. i showered, took a nap and she arrived right on time.nice lady, kind of cute, short and thin, sweet and very shy. so-so massage, she stayed dressed, got me hard with some sensual rubs and touching, offered a hj, i accepted, she oiled me up and went to work. very nice, it took me awhile and she never complained, big finish, she commented about it, she cleaned me up, we talked for a while, i asked what i owed, she said 3,000, i gave her 4,000, it was worth it just for the look of surprise she got when i gave her a tip, the hj was good too.i left for bangkok the next morning.mike
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Final thoughts on Tokyo
It?s not Thailand or the Philippines!But the girls, women, ladies are amazing! They are in a league of their own with class, style and elegant along with being beautiful. Everywhere I went, the street, the malls, the train stations, it was girl watching and I thoroughly enjoyed it. No I didn?t score like I wanted/hoped to but just to have been in and seen Tokyo was a great experience.Mike
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[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]I couldn’t for the life of me find this place. I finally gave up looking and just walked around some of the side streets, they looked interesting, and there it was. There was a guy outside talking on the phone, I showed him my note, he nodded that it was the it, then with his little English asked if I called, I told him that I hadn’t, he told me I had to call first, I went back to the main street, found a phone booth and called, I was told Japanese only.Maybe this will help for directions, when facing 109 take the road on the left, the street will be on your right, see photo. There is a payphone on the main street at the entrance. Mike[/QUOTE]It's been noted on here a number of times that being gaijin-OK does not mean being non-japanese-speaking-OK. Most of the people working in the sex industry in Japan cannot speak any other language besides Japanese, and aside from a few sketchy places (a few places that are way off the beaten track, and a few places that cater to this very small market) they don't want to deal with people they can't communicate with. Which is fairly understandable.
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Tokyo times
Apologies for the late reports - IT issues.I've been in Tokyo a couple of months but hard to get away from the other half and not speaking nihongo a definate disadvantage here (seems there would be freebies there for the taking for those who do).A quick summary of my p4p experiences to date:AM Mako, 25, very thin, nice personality, very tight and seemed to enjoy a good rogering. BBBJ average. WIR - yes.AM Hitomi, 33, bigger than the photos suggest. Good service. WIR - no, too big for my taste.AM Kanae, 22, very nice body and lovely face, good DKK, nice BBBJ/CIM, real GFE but enjoyed it hard also. WIR - definately, but I see she is no longer on the site.Tokyo Melty Kiss Manami, 29. Lots of fantasic reports here so though I'd have to try. Very enthusiastic about her work. Great BBBJ/CIM and lots of solid shagging in muliple positions. WIR - worth the time but a bit bigger than I normally like.Jan Jan, didn't get the name, nice tight young body but average service (too much hand, and not deep enough). Interesting experience in a far more open setting than even some BJ bars in Bangkok. Will be back as this has to be the best value in Tokyo and also has some great reports.AM Xiao Xiao, 24, Taiwanese. Photos definately show her to advantage. Reasonable service though not enthusiastic, certainly not the same GFE as the Japanese girls from AM. A bit hairy too, but I guess that is a personal preference. This girl had obviously seen a few Japanese porn movies, as the sound effects were a bit off-putting. WIR - no.Tokyo - great city, gorgeous stylish girls everywhere, and a well resourced p4p sector. The AV standard girls don't seem to be available for non-Japanese speaking foreignors, which is a real pity, but I guess we can't blame the locals for keeping the best J-girls to themselves. Looking forward to a trip back to Thailand - language and/or girlie shyness never seems to be an issue there ;-)
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Club Boo website
I have been unable to access Club Boo website for several days.Can anyone help?Thanks
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Sakura - Nasty Dolls
This report's a bit late and may not be much use at all (more on that later), but the forum provided useful info, so I thought I'd give back a bit. A quick background, this was my first time going the p4p route. I'm relatively young and have had no problem pulling girls from nightclubs, but I was hitting a run of some hanging around a bit longer than I wanted and decided to give this a go (relying on the old "you don't pay for the sex, you pay for them to leave"). In any case, I don't write all this to talk myself up but as a possible explanation for what comes later because I was a bit surprised myself.I was initially looking to check out Hime at Club Boo, but she apparently wasn't available, and they weren't very helpful in providing any information on when she would be. I wasn't feeling anyone else on the site so much and wasn't overly pleased with their lack of info, so I looked to Nasty Dolls. AM girls seemed to be a bit bigger than I prefer.My first choice on ND was Anna, but I obviously didn't research quite enough to know she was MIA. With that, I had them send over Sakura for a 90 minute session.She was a bit late since she was coming from her day job but nothing horrible. My door buzzer was having issues, so I went downstairs to let her in. When I appeared at the door, she initially gave me a glance and looked away before I let her know she was there for me, which she was rather surprised about. Cute girl, nice face, slender waist and legs, a bit taller than I expected, great chest (which was a tad hard to see in the white-on-white pic on the website: [url]http://www.nasty-dolls.jp/images/0022.jpg[/url]), ass a bit flat, but, yeah, I'm in Japan... you can't win em all.Upstairs, minimal small talk at first since the whole thing was new to me, which I let her know, and we hopped in the shower right away. Pretty standard shower, eventually leading to DFK and a bit of a HJ as I groped her, but nothing crazy happening.We hit the bed, more DFK, and I started with DATY. Went at this for awhile, and she seemed to be enjoying herself with little moans, which was confirmed a few minutes later when the telltale spasms started and she had to push me away as she became too sensitive. As I went in for some follow-up DFK, she whispered, "I like your tongue," so, hey, that's something.From there, she started on a BBBJ. It started off a bit weak, but she deep-throated like a champ, which I'm usually not a huge fan of. Went at this for awhile before she switched up her technique a bit and eventually got me to pop a fairly sizable load for CIM. Now here's where the review intro info comes into play. After sucking me dry, she raised herself up on her knees, and I was waiting for her to get up to grab the tissues behind her on the table. However, she just sort of smiled at me for a bit, and then she was talking to me (I do not at all remember what) with a empty mouth. Bless her soul, she swallowed it like a champ. She went for some water on the side in a minute, but it was definitely gone before then. Again, I'm new to this, so someone please pop my bubble if that's normal, but I was pretty thrilled.We rested up a bit with some cuddling and small talk but nothing significant. I was eventually good to go again, so I grabbed the condom I had with me, and she mounted me CG, and we went from there. Flipped to a few different positions with me mostly taking the lead. She took it nicely and returned to her moaning. One slight minus was less eye contact that I was looking for, but she pulled me in for the occasional DFK, so it worked out okay. She was back in top, grinding away, when her timer went off. She didn't flinch as we kept it up a few more minutes until I popped again. From there, it was a standard clean-up, shower, and some final DFK, and she was on her way.Overall, I don't know if I'll be making a habit of this, but I was definitely pleased with Sakura. So the reason this report may not be of much use is that I received notice from Nasty Dolls just a couple days ago that she was leaving the agency as of today, and today they have already removed her from the site's gallery, so where she goes, nobody knows. Glad I was able to get to her.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Pansted00]I have been unable to access Club Boo website for several days.Can anyone help?Thanks[/QUOTE]Worked OK for me just now. Got this link from Google:[url]http://www.clubboo.jp/frames/home.htm[/url]
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The impossible quest for a HJ in Akasaka
I think I believe in Karma so I thought I should finally contribute after lurking for a while.I'm a newly arrived expat in Tokyo and although I look Japanese, I speak very little Japanese and continuous "hais" gives you up after a while. I've been trying out the Akasaka area as it is closed to where I'm based but maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place. It's nigh on impossible to find an esute which gives you a decent massage with a HJ.I tried looking for the Korean place "Yuri", but I didn't see any "Club Premium" anywhere along the street or on the sidewalks. Perhaps its closed but pity, I was looking forward to trying it out.I then tried looking for the place adjacent to the Malboro shop near exit 6 of Akasaka station, but nothing there as well.I've tried the chinese esute that's on your right just after you turn right after Lotus Palace (the vietnamese restaurant) and it's totally legit. They give you a pair of shorts to wear so when that happens, one usually gives up much expectation. The massage is quite good though.I've also tried the joint on 7F just opposite Lotus Palace - the girl who serviced me was young and pretty good looking, but alas, nothing more than a massage on offer. Also a decent massage and her mama-san is pretty hot too (for MILF lovers).Well in the spirit of things, I thought I should post it up here to "take one for the team". But with Vitamin M not always free-flowing, I hope I find somewhere good soon.Anyway I found this site - "www.thailady-massage.com" - anyone tried it yet? Haru looks properly fit and I think most will agree that if you have a great massage (with a nice HJ) by a young, fit lady (preferably nude), that's money well spent.I hope this helps, if anything, to save others from hunting in vain.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Kaygee]I think I believe in Karma so I thought I should finally contribute after lurking for a while.I'm a newly arrived expat in Tokyo and although I look Japanese, I speak very little Japanese and continuous "hais" gives you up after a while. I've been trying out the Akasaka area as it is closed to where I'm based but maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place. It's nigh on impossible to find an esute which gives you a decent massage with a HJ.I tried looking for the Korean place "Yuri", but I didn't see any "Club Premium" anywhere along the street or on the sidewalks. Perhaps its closed but pity, I was looking forward to trying it out.[/QUOTE]KGIf you want some "hands on" looks into Akasaka, I can show you around. It's not Shinjuku by any stretch of the imagination, but there are several places with happy endings or better. Since we can't post contact info here, you'll need to pay the piper (aka Jackson) his $20 and then you can use PM. Happy to run around there and there are some nice pubs too.Tankuki
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[QUOTE=Kaygee]Anyway I found this site - "www.thailady-massage.com" - anyone tried it yet? Haru looks properly fit and I think most will agree that if you have a great massage (with a nice HJ) by a young, fit lady (preferably nude), that's money well spent.[/QUOTE]If you're looking for Thai massage, and haven't been yet, I would suggest [url]http://www.asian-feeling.net/[/url] in Shinjuku. I had Erina the other night. She's a sweet girl with decent Japanese (but not much English), big tits, a nice smile and full eye contact when she is stroking you off. It was my first time for a HJ, however, and I couldn't cum which really put her out, especially after she was trying to hurry me to cum quick.
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Sakura - ND
Nice report, I had similar great experience with her.She already told me she would leave and go to the UK to study...[QUOTE=Frankie Pete]Overall, I don't know if I'll be making a habit of this, but I was definitely pleased with Sakura. So the reason this report may not be of much use is that I received notice from Nasty Dolls just a couple days ago that she was leaving the agency as of today, and today they have already removed her from the site's gallery, so where she goes, nobody knows. Glad I was able to get to her.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
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Are AM, Nasty Dolls and Club boo the only places that serve to people who don't speak japanese?Are there any health clubs or something similar?
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[QUOTE=Kaygee]I think most will agree that if you have a great massage (with a nice HJ) by a young, fit lady (preferably nude), that's money well spent.[/QUOTE]Asian Group gives a great massage but unfortunately they don't do it in the nude. Many of the ladies will show you their breasts if you ask them nicely. In my experience, all the ladies I tried showed them to me except Natalie who told me that she has never let anyone see her breasts and never will.If you want a massage in the nude then I suggest going to a KMP. My favorites are Hoshi (Star) and the recently "renewed" Tanpopo. They are both located a few minutes walk from Nippori station south exit. Remember that you need basic Japanese skills to go to these places.Hoshi (Star)[url]http://www.star-es.com/[/url]Tanpopo[url]http://www.a-side.com/tanpopo/[/url]And for some sad news. One of the places I went to a lot has closed down. Daimon at Okachimachi is no longer open.
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Pink Salon Tour
Ok, on my last trip to Tokyo, I had my first soapland experience:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=927119&highlight=Martini#post927119[/url]In addition, I followed up with a Pink Salon tour. Details follow.Hinomaru Cabaret in Shinjuku:--------------------------------This is the place I used to visit 15 years ago before I got hitched to the ***** (now split). Some things never change. Still gaijin friendly, girls still average to fine (5-8), service still ranges from BBBJ to CFS depending on the server. Repeat business here is definitely a plus. Hooked up with Mimi (a 6) the first time and got a decent BBBJ. Came back 3 days later and requested her again, she threw in CFS without any prompting. Also, in my opinion, service quality is inversely proportional to the attractiveness of the server, i.e. the hottest girls tend to do CBJ while the more average ones really work for it (again, partially based on 15 year old experiences). Case in point, on my last visit, I chose the latest "new face" (sorry, bad with names), who showed up and smiled, sporting a missing tooth (bad face, nice body). Awesome BBBJ and went right on to CFS even though it was my first time with her. Emotions in Gotanda-----------------A previous poster said it looked like somebody's basement with a bunch of couches...couldn't agree more. I kept looking around trying to find a bong and a lava lamp :-). Went there twice, got different girls both times. Both BBBJs. First time (upstairs) was good. 2nd time (downstairs, around 11:30pm) the girl was rushed off before I finished...couldn't have been there more that 15 minutes. Debating whether I will ever go back...will certainly never go close to closing.Jan Jan in Sugamo-----------------Only went once. Will definitely be back. Awesome BBBJ (way more mouth than hands). Very gaijin friendly, both the doorman and the girl. Still cannot believe it only cost 3000 yen.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Rtff!
[QUOTE=Michael Red]Are AM, Nasty Dolls and Club boo the only places that serve to people who don't speak japanese?Are there any health clubs or something similar?[/QUOTE]Hey, first timer! Welcome to the forum!Now, spend more than the amount of time it took for you to write your first posting and READ THE F*CKING FORUM! The answer to your questions are easily found after reading for about 5 minutes, or something.
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non japanese speaking friendly
[QUOTE=Michael Red]Are AM, Nasty Dolls and Club boo the only places that serve to people who don't speak japanese?Are there any health clubs or something similar?[/QUOTE]This is correct but you can also add Hinomaru in Shinjuku. So search these names and you will find info. Then go there or order in
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Tokyo-s-p-m Experience
Last Tuesday I took the chance and went down to Takadanoba visiting TSPM. Thanks to the descriptions I found on this forum, the place where very esay to find. It's totally GF and even for people who can not speak any japanese it should not be a problem.But I can recommend this place only for people who are looking for a very cheap FS. Girls (better to say women, cause I don't believe they have there anyone under the age of 25) are below average. I had Yuka, Website image and the reality is a big big difference. I guess they have no one who looks like the girls on the website working there at all. Girls are all Chinese.Room was really dark but not so shabby as I expected. While I was fucking Yuka I could hear the other girls through the curtain talking and laughing.Are all Chinese escutes the same or are the ones in Ueno better?
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[QUOTE=Michael Red]Are AM, Nasty Dolls and Club boo the only places that serve to people who don't speak japanese?Are there any health clubs or something similar?[/QUOTE]You also may want to check out the Thai massage place, w/happy ending option on the menu, in Kabuki-cho. Mind you it's only HJ service there. Check search on this forum for Asian Feeling/Asian Relax. Somewhere on here is their URL with information in English.
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Any one try the French black girl advertising on CraigsList?
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Some questions about busty-p
I saw on their webpage that they also do delivery to a hotel of your choice. Is that correct? Anyone done this?Do they girls look at least similar to the photos on their webpage?Thanks for help from you.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]Any one try the French black girl advertising on CraigsList?[/QUOTE]No, but I saw her ad too. Did you get in touch to see if she can send you a better picture or how much she wants? If not, perhaps I'll pose a question to her.
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[QUOTE=Kaygee]I think I believe in Karma so I thought I should finally contribute after lurking for a while.I'm a newly arrived expat in Tokyo and although I look Japanese, I speak very little Japanese and continuous "hais" gives you up after a while. I've been trying out the Akasaka area as it is closed to where I'm based but maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place. It's nigh on impossible to find an esute which gives you a decent massage with a HJ.[/QUOTE]Magic characters you need to look for on websites are Japanese euphemisms for HJ like:回春マッサージ 性感マッサージdropping that in google followed by the area you are interested Japanese characters in will narrow things down a bit though many will still state they are not a fuzoku-ten. Still it is a start. Doesn't necessarily mean a HJ is off the menu, but wouldn't chance it if this was my objective.Members here with Japanese ability will usually be able to give an educated guess if the place has this service, if in doubt.
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Nina @ Grimpeur
I popped into Grimpeur the other night, with nothing better to do, and I was given the option of three girls: Ageha, Sakura and Nina. I was interested in Sakura's cup size, but I vaguely remembered a report about Nina, so I reluctantly decided to go with her.I should add, I've used Grimpeur a lot, and never had FS before, even though I've read on here that it is on the cards. Anyway, while she was finishing off in the shower, I finally got around to finding that report and found that FS was on the menu. That perked me up a little, but it was just the prelude to one of the best sessions I have had in Japan.Nina's lip technique is amazing. I quickly assumed the receiving position, and she kissed and licked me all over at a very slow pace, building up immense amounts of excitement. She really knows how to linger and give the best possible feeling. She paid extra attention to licking my nipples, and when she finally arrived down at my nether regions, she gave me a BJ to rival the very best. I responded by going down on her, while pushing fingers inside her, which she seemed to enjoy, but I longed for more so asked "Can I put it inside?" and she replied "Sure, if you use a condom." The hotel had a couple ready, so I was inside in a jiffy and it felt glorious. She responded to the penis much more warmly than my fingers, and was orgasming in minutes. It was a real pleasure to see/hear.Besides the sex, Nina is a cutey. Very short (4'6"), slim, with a couple of minor scars on her shoulder, but very cute. We spoke in Japanese the entire time, though the previous report said she speaks English, and she told me she had lived in Australia for a year. I think this is probably a very good bet for short term visitors to Japan, and also for the veterans who want to go a little bit further than the typical health service.By the way, though I have been to Grimpeur a lot in the last few months, everytime I have thought about writing about a specific girl, they have disappeared from the roster. Grimpeur has a [b]very[/b] high staff turnover rate. This can be a plus, of course, if you like to try new girls, but it makes it difficult to write reports of note.
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Thanks all for your tips!Appreciate it.
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Japanese girl - w4m - 22 (Tokyo and Narita)
Saw this on CL a little while back. If anyone tried or asked for more info, please share.
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Went down for one of those famous BBBJs at JanJan in Sugamo two weeks ago. The girl, Rui was her name was cute enough but her service was certainly not worth the money or the wait. After 15 minutes of non inspired sucking during which I couldn't cum, she looked up at me and said "theres no more time" in Japanese and proceeded to give me a handjob. In the end it was pretty cheap (3000 yen) but the clamydia that she gave me was more costly to cure.
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Went down for one of those famous BBBJs at JanJan in Sugamo two weeks ago. The girl, Rui was her name was cute enough but her service was certainly not worth the money or the wait. After 15 minutes of non inspired sucking during which I couldn't cum, she looked up at me and said "theres no more time" in Japanese and proceeded to give me a handjob. In the end it was pretty cheap (3000 yen) but the clamydia that she gave me was more costly to cure.
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Janjan
Went to JanJan about two weeks ago.
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Janjan
[QUOTE=Ice Tea13]Saw this on CL a little while back. If anyone tried or asked for more info, please share.[/QUOTE]I went to JanJan about two weeks ago.
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Arrival and using credit cards at pink establishments
I got into Narita from Manila last night. Checked into my Shibuya hotel around midnight.Spent the morning wandering around Shibuya pretending to be lost. I have a really hard time finding the yobinkyoku. LOL. I got directions from eight women. The three who seemed fairly good at English got one of my personal meishi as a reward. One asked me to add my email address to the card. Haven't heard from any of them yet, but we'll see.I have five dating leads from Japan Cupid that will take some time to develop, but I'm here for two weeks.Found the Cafe De Ai Ai which I am going to try out soon. I believe my Japanese might be good enough to pull it off. I'm thinking about either Grimpeur or JanJan tonight.I also have two Japanese male pen pals that I'm trying to work into mongering buddies. I'll pay their way into a soapland if they can get me in, too. I can introduce them to foreign women at Motown and Heartland if they are into that. I've always gone with cash in the sex joints, but that is constrained by my daily ATM limit (that might be a good thing). But if I'm paying for two, a credit card would be optimal. Have any of you guys used a foreign CC for these establishments? I already use my CC for hotels and bars in Japan without a problem.Feel free to PM me if you are in Tokyo and want to get a drink and compare notes.SbySW
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CC use
[quote]Have any of you guys used a foreign CC for these establishments? I already use my CC for hotels and bars in Japan without a problem.SbySW[/QUOTE]I would not use any CC, foreign or otherwise. Last time I did - it got scanned and next thing I knew was that it katchinging ever where to the max. Wife was understanding, but boy that was no fun.
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[QUOTE=South by SW 2]I've always gone with cash in the sex joints, but that is constrained by my daily ATM limit (that might be a good thing). But if I'm paying for two, a credit card would be optimal. Have any of you guys used a foreign CC for these establishments? I already use my CC for hotels and bars in Japan without a problem.SbySW[/QUOTE]I've used it without problem, but they will sometimes charge you a 10% fee for using a credit card. That's actually fairly normal here in Japan. They apply this fee to Japanese men as wel.
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Busty-p and chiyoya in Ueno
Went yesterday to Busty-p in Ueno. Very nice place and girls are cute and hot. Wanted also to try Chiyoya but they don't allow Gaijins anymore. Can anyone confirm that?
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Yet another Jan Jan report <yawn>
Went with Jan Jan's Tuesday night. Did JR to Sugamo and got there right at 2300. Last train back was 0045, so plenty of time. It was easy to find the exit and Jan Jan using Jpn Dude's excellent "Directions to Sugamo" report. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=908883&postcount=6294[/url]Google Streetview covers BJ Alley - Now that's technology improving people's lives!Anyway, one tout at the beginning of the street tried to bring me in. The next one just waved me down to Jan Jan.It was drizzlng and the shop wasn't busy. I asked for two girls - "Futari onegashimasu". The guy said that wasn't available. Given that there were three additional girls sitting in a booth, it was obviously a shortage of those willing to service gaijin. It was 4000. The one willing lass was Yuu. She was fairly tall. Maybe a 7 in looks. Rather saggy breasts. Probably a E-cup in Japan, but a B-cup in the rest of the civilized world.After the obligatory wipe down, she took off her bra. With a little prompting she took off her panties too. Trimmed bush. Obviously wasn't into fingering, so I focused on her nipples. All kissing was lips closed. She gave a good BJ, but I'm a difficult customer to get off orally. With a little joint effort we got the job done.I'd probably try one of the other shops that was trying to lure me in to see what they are like before repeating with her, but then I monger for the variety.SbySW
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[QUOTE=South by SW 2]It was drizzlng and the shop wasn't busy. I asked for two girls - "Futari onegashimasu". The guy said that wasn't available. [/QUOTE]Has anyone on this forum successfully gotten a "double" at a pink salon? If so, where? Most of them seem to have so little room on their couches that it would seem to be fairly difficult logistically speaking.
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[QUOTE=Tankuki]I found a nice little place out of the shitty rain tonight that might serve to help forget about the loss of SuperGirls. In Akasaka, coming out of exit 2 of the metro station, stay to the right a short walk til the corner with a Vietnamese restaurant called Lotus Place. Turn right, go maybe 50 meters past Hobgoblin and there's a small Korean area. There's a sign on the sidewalk on the left for a place called Premium Club on the 3rd floor, but go to the 4th floor and it's called Yuri (Kanji and katakana). The old lady grabbed my dick when I walked in, but she means well. The place is typical massage joint. A girl called Kaori took care of me for the 1 hour plan. Strip and into the shower. She goes with you and washes you down, especially lots of ass and dick washing. Back to the room, she proceeded with a so-so massage, but she got more and more friendly as we chatted. Very little English, some Japanese but good attitude. After a while of massage, her clothes came off and so did the towel. She went for a bit of body surfing and then time for the flip. The old lady talked about BJ, but this gal did it up very nicely. She hopped on top so I could munch a bit of muff while she sucked her way home. Great tongue on her! Even the whiskey couldn't hold me too long and I blew a load in her mouth. She swallowed it up and licked me clean. Then she said it was "amai" which was pretty cool. Not many swallowers around these days, much less girls who actually enjoy it! Some more massage, and clean up and time to head out. Nice little session for sure.Damage 1.5 man plus a little tip for DATYFace 7Body 7Attitude 9DSL's 9.5Swallowing 10WIR No doubt!Good excuse to stop over and have a few in Akasaka and then hit this joint before going home!Tankuki[/QUOTE]About 2 months ago I visited this place after reading your report and found it exactly the way you had described it. I had some difficulty in locatign the palce due to lack of any knowledge of Japanese but then i tried to follow your detailed directional instructions and found it.I was greated by a Korean mama-san who herself was quite hot and came straight to the point. showed me 3 packages and last one included FS (1 shot) for 12k. I took that.I got a MILF in late 30s but was quite good looking. She hardly spoke any English so the conversation was next to nothing. Her massage was good. The moment I turned my face up, she grabed my stuff straight and within a few seconds I saw it in her mouth before I knew anything. Sucking was just normal nothing great and then came the FS, which was good but she showed very little enthu. Anyway, I left the place quite satisfied.Last week I thought of going back to the place but to my surprize they have shifted to some new location. A small handdrawn map has been posted on the door but it is all in Japanese which I can not understand. There is a phone number as well but when I called that number it goes to some cleaning service.Can some bro, who knows where they have shifted, advise how to get to their new location. I seemed to like their service. Any updates will be welcome.SingSong
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[QUOTE=Dbdoll]Has anyone on this forum successfully gotten a "double" at a pink salon? If so, where? Most of them seem to have so little room on their couches that it would seem to be fairly difficult logistically speaking.[/QUOTE]In this case, it would be one girl after the other - not simultaneously. That would be like a game of Twister.SbySW
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Thanks guys for posting this. I frequent Grimpeur a lot basically looking for the FS girls. If anyone else has any positive experiences, please do share.So far I've gotten FS from Airi, Coco, and Arisa.Arisa was fantastic--great deep throat technique and was not at all shy about giving up the cooch. Got real heavy into it too. Definitely repeat that one for sure.Airi I've been with a few times. So-so face, but great, great BJ and gets turned on so easily. After being with her many times, its very GFE.Coco took a while to get started but once I turned her on she was mine and begged for it. (hint, start slow, and focus on her breasts).[QUOTE=Hot Bot]I popped into Grimpeur the other night, with nothing better to do, and I was given the option of three girls: Ageha, Sakura and Nina. I was interested in Sakura's cup size, but I vaguely remembered a report about Nina, so I reluctantly decided to go with her.I should add, I've used Grimpeur a lot, and never had FS before, even though I've read on here that it is on the cards. Anyway, while she was finishing off in the shower, I finally got around to finding that report and found that FS was on the menu. That perked me up a little, but it was just the prelude to one of the best sessions I have had in Japan.Nina's lip technique is amazing. I quickly assumed the receiving position, and she kissed and licked me all over at a very slow pace, building up immense amounts of excitement. She really knows how to linger and give the best possible feeling. She paid extra attention to licking my nipples, and when she finally arrived down at my nether regions, she gave me a BJ to rival the very best. I responded by going down on her, while pushing fingers inside her, which she seemed to enjoy, but I longed for more so asked "Can I put it inside?" and she replied "Sure, if you use a condom." The hotel had a couple ready, so I was inside in a jiffy and it felt glorious. She responded to the penis much more warmly than my fingers, and was orgasming in minutes. It was a real pleasure to see/hear.Besides the sex, Nina is a cutey. Very short (4'6"), slim, with a couple of minor scars on her shoulder, but very cute. We spoke in Japanese the entire time, though the previous report said she speaks English, and she told me she had lived in Australia for a year. I think this is probably a very good bet for short term visitors to Japan, and also for the veterans who want to go a little bit further than the typical health service.By the way, though I have been to Grimpeur a lot in the last few months, everytime I have thought about writing about a specific girl, they have disappeared from the roster. Grimpeur has a [b]very[/b] high staff turnover rate. This can be a plus, of course, if you like to try new girls, but it makes it difficult to write reports of note.[/QUOTE]
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Bunny - Craigslist
Does anyone know anything about the Bunny listing as of today (Oct 1) on CL? I'm sort of interested, but the pic and description leaves me wondering what she isn't showing...
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75 kg!
[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Does anyone know anything about the Bunny listing as of today (Oct 1) on CL? I'm sort of interested, but the pic and description leaves me wondering what she isn't showing...[/QUOTE]I thought I had mentioned this before, but I can't find my previous post. She's hiding information she originally posted in her ads that have appeared almost daily for the past month+. She is 75 kilos! No idea about her height. That makes her 25 kilos more than my standard limit.Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Azure Knight]Does anyone know anything about the Bunny listing as of today (Oct 1) on CL? I'm sort of interested, but the pic and description leaves me wondering what she isn't showing...[/QUOTE]She's a fatty and she walks out after you come the first time, regardless of time spent. She's already been mentioned on these forums.
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Did a quick search and didn't find anything, so thanks for the info! I was going to try her but I decided to go with Marina of CB again. Feel like I dodged a major bullet and had an excellent time with Marina. It was a good night.
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[QUOTE=South by SW 2]Went with Jan Jan's Tuesday night. Did JR to Sugamo and got there right at 2300. Last train back was 0045, so plenty of time. It was easy to find the exit and Jan Jan using Jpn Dude's excellent "Directions to Sugamo" report. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=908883&postcount=6294[/url]Google Streetview covers BJ Alley - Now that's technology improving people's lives!Anyway, one tout at the beginning of the street tried to bring me in. The next one just waved me down to Jan Jan.It was drizzlng and the shop wasn't busy. I asked for two girls - "Futari onegashimasu". The guy said that wasn't available. Given that there were three additional girls sitting in a booth, it was obviously a shortage of those willing to service gaijin. It was 4000. The one willing lass was Yuu. She was fairly tall. Maybe a 7 in looks. Rather saggy breasts. Probably a E-cup in Japan, but a B-cup in the rest of the civilized world.After the obligatory wipe down, she took off her bra. With a little prompting she took off her panties too. Trimmed bush. Obviously wasn't into fingering, so I focused on her nipples. All kissing was lips closed. She gave a good BJ, but I'm a difficult customer to get off orally. With a little joint effort we got the job done.I'd probably try one of the other shops that was trying to lure me in to see what they are like before repeating with her, but then I monger for the variety.SbySW[/QUOTE]Thank you. Yes please do report on other Sugamo places once you've tried them. I have a feeling though that Jan Jan is the only one where you dont have to wear a condom? Can anyone confirm this? Can anyone kindly report on other places in Sugamo BJ alley?
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[QUOTE=Hot Bot]Besides the sex, Nina is a cutey. Very short (4'6"), slim, with a couple of minor scars on her shoulder, but very cute. We spoke in Japanese the entire time, though the previous report said she speaks English, and she told me she had lived in Australia for a year. I think this is probably a very good bet for short term visitors to Japan, and also for the veterans who want to go a little bit further than the typical health service.By the way, though I have been to Grimpeur a lot in the last few months, everytime I have thought about writing about a specific girl, they have disappeared from the roster. Grimpeur has a [b]very[/b] high staff turnover rate. This can be a plus, of course, if you like to try new girls, but it makes it difficult to write reports of note.[/QUOTE]Any links to Nina's profile on their website? Try as I might (and I read Japanese) I can't find anyone by that name - hoping she is still around!
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Ok, I am new to the forums and have already taken advantage of some of the info.Could someone kindly link me to the directions to Grinpeur and Janjan?I sifted through 15 pages of posts and I'm out of time for now, and the search didn't help me either.Thanks in advance!
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Best spots near Roppongi
My next business trip will likely put land me in a hotel in Roppongi. What are the best bets for gaijin-friendly service there. Aside from the "masagi" scams (which is about all I remember from my last walk-through there a few years ago)? I know I could go to Shinjuku, Sugamo, etc., but it seems that most of my best opportunities for mongering tend to occur after 11pm, which means if I leave the local area I am in danger of missing the last train, so would like something in walking distance.
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Nina @ Grimpeur
[QUOTE=Mrbx76]Any links to Nina's profile on their website? Try as I might (and I read Japanese) I can't find anyone by that name - hoping she is still around![/QUOTE]Oddly enough I was checking for her name yesterday as well. I saw her info up on the site a week or two ago, but she seems to be gone now. As reported, the turnover at Grimpeur is high...ES
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[QUOTE=Hairyjuku]Ok, I am new to the forums and have already taken advantage of some of the info.Could someone kindly link me to the directions to Grinpeur and Janjan?I sifted through 15 pages of posts and I'm out of time for now, and the search didn't help me either.Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]If you can read Japanese, Grimpeur's website is:[url]http://www.s-grimpeur[/url]. Jp/index.php I have not been able to locate a website for Jan Jan.
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[QUOTE=Hairyjuku]Could someone kindly link me to the directions to Grinpeur and Janjan?[/QUOTE]Here are the directions to JanJan[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=908883&postcount=6294[/url]Found by searching this thread for "Sugamo". Took under 30 seconds to find.
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So Grimpeur's is gaijin friendly? They service in their room or in my hotel?Can I have a sex with their girls?Thank you
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Oddly enough I was checking for her name yesterday as well. I saw her info up on the site a week or two ago, but she seems to be gone now. As reported, the turnover at Grimpeur is high...ES[/QUOTE]I spoke to the shop dude, and he said taht she was one of those "didn't show up half the time" girls, so they don't expect her back.
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Grimpeur (again)
Hi, I just had a pleasant afternoon visit with Coco. I'm a regular at Asian Feeling but decided on Grimpeur for a change. I was after Kasumi based on a previous report by Stacey Kane [post]906884[/post]but I would have had to wait quite a while for her. I was offered 4 other girls and decided on Coco who was also mentioned by SK. I'm not a breast man but hers are magnificent and SK is right on about focusing on her breasts. She had me in a headlock for quite awhile, the nicest headlock I've ever had. She is quiet and I'm guessing fairly shy, but a lovely girl and I was quite happy with her. My only problem is that she smokes and I think she had a fag on the way to the hotel. FS wasn't offered nor was I after it.The reason for my post is to point out that I had no problem at all. I do speak pretty good Japanese, or so I am regularly told. But the guy I was dealing with had a soft voice, spoke looking down and there was fairly loud techno playing so I had difficulty following him. He made a couple of calls to hotels, then took me to there, it was bit of a walk and we had time to chat. I told him it was my first time at hotel health and he took me the actual room (no one told me it was a gay shop! ). He explained about paying on the way out using the vending machine and put the door stop in the door to prevent it closing. Coco was there 6 minutes and one cigarette later.A question if anyone knows what's the difference between 写真指名料 無料, and 本指名料 1,000円 other than 1000 yen?I wasn't charged 1000yen or I'm guessing that's not a hon shimei.JG
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One more Grimpeur girl
I went to Grimpeur for the first time a few weekends ago. They guy at the counter confirmed that I could speak Japanese and then showed me a selection of six girls who would do Gaijin. I went with Ageha, because the description of her made it sound like she was a dirty girl, and I was looking for a girl who wasn't waify thin.I went to a hotel around the corner, got squared away in a room for a couple of hours and then called the shop. When she arrived, she had on a little blue one-piece, matching thong and bra set, and somewhat beat white heels. She's a fairly typical gyaru, mid to late 20s, long bleached brown hair, tons of make-up, and huge encrusted fake nails. She was every inch the gyaru I wanted to bang. Her body is thick, but not fat, lumpy thick - more like poured-into-that-dress thick. I started getting wood right away. She has a pretty frank manner. She broke out a bunch of bottles of various gels and started pouring a bath. She was really insistent on the idea of a bubble bath. While the bath was pouring, we did some gelly play in the bathroom, with her sliding her naked body all over me and playing with my cock. When we got into the tub, she gave me some BBBJ. Then we got out, dried off and climbed under the covers. We made out, I sucked on her titties, ate her pussy, and we just rolled naturally into FS, no questions or discussion. We fucked for a good while and even though she made a number of remarks about it hurting, she didn't want me to stop. At one point she got out a special BJ gel that she put in her mouth and gave me some more BJ. It was some kind of minty gel and it kind of tingled. After that, I put my cock back in her pussy, and ended up finishing on her ass. I was in the mood for some big booty, and Ageha delivered.We hoped back in the tub and chatted. She told me I was her third gaijin customer, but she felt that one didn't really count, because he had just wanted to play with her titties. She also worried that her pussy would hurt the next day and that it might have been stretched out. (She kept saying, as Japanese girls love to say, that her pussy had been destroyed - マンコ壊れたわ. NB: I am in no way particularly large.) We exchanged info by sekigaisen, and I haven't heard from her since.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]I went to Grimpeur for the first time a few weekends ago. They guy at the counter confirmed that I could speak Japanese and then showed me a selection of six girls who would do Gaijin. I went with Ageha, because the description of her made it sound like she was a dirty girl, and I was looking for a girl who wasn't waify thin.I went to a hotel around the corner, got squared away in a room for a couple of hours and then called the shop. When she arrived, she had on a little blue one-piece, matching thong and bra set, and somewhat beat white heels. She's a fairly typical gyaru, mid to late 20s, long bleached brown hair, tons of make-up, and huge encrusted fake nails. She was every inch the gyaru I wanted to bang. Her body is thick, but not fat, lumpy thick - more like poured-into-that-dress thick. I started getting wood right away. She has a pretty frank manner. She broke out a bunch of bottles of various gels and started pouring a bath. She was really insistent on the idea of a bubble bath. While the bath was pouring, we did some gelly play in the bathroom, with her sliding her naked body all over me and playing with my cock. When we got into the tub, she gave me some BBBJ. Then we got out, dried off and climbed under the covers. We made out, I sucked on her titties, ate her pussy, and we just rolled naturally into FS, no questions or discussion. We fucked for a good while and even though she made a number of remarks about it hurting, she didn't want me to stop. At one point she got out a special BJ gel that she put in her mouth and gave me some more BJ. It was some kind of minty gel and it kind of tingled. After that, I put my cock back in her pussy, and ended up finishing on her ass. I was in the mood for some big booty, and Ageha delivered.We hoped back in the tub and chatted. She told me I was her third gaijin customer, but she felt that one didn't really count, because he had just wanted to play with her titties. She also worried that her pussy would hurt the next day and that it might have been stretched out. (She kept saying, as Japanese girls love to say, that her pussy had been destroyed - マンコ壊れたわ. NB: I am in no way particularly large.) We exchanged info by sekigaisen, and I haven't heard from her since.[/QUOTE]Where do I get their service? Is it possible in Grimpeur or i do it in a hotel? The girl exit at Grimpeur with me or I wait her in a love hotel?Thank you
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]I went to a hotel around the corner, got squared away in a room for a couple of hours and then called the shop. [/QUOTE]Could you tell me how much did you pay hotel fees?
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Anyone had experience in Korea deli-health?[url]http://www.kandeli.net/girlinfo/1024/1039/[/url]
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Hi Kanda,[QUOTE=Kanda]In Nippori, I suggest Funny, Rabbit or Yuri in which limited Japanese is needed. If you can speak, Four Seasons, Diamond or Paradise are quite good.[/QUOTE]I've yet to try Funny but will soon. Can you give more information as to why you recommend Four seasons, Diamond and Paradise? Both the Rabbit and Four Season websites show a normal massage place. I assume just a HJ place. The Diamond website looks more promising in terms of services provided. I couldn't find the Paradise website. Has it changed names?ThanksPD
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[QUOTE=Japanguy]Hi, A question if anyone knows what's the difference between 写真指名料 無料, and 本指名料 1,000円 other than 1000 yen?JG[/QUOTE]The first one is regarding choosing by picture.The second one is deciding by meeting the girl in person.
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About the "shimei"
[QUOTE=Japanguy]A question if anyone knows what's the difference between 写真指名料 無料, and 本指名料 1,000円 other than 1000 yen?I wasn't charged 1000yen or I'm guessing that's not a hon shimei.[/QUOTE]When you just turn up at the store, they show you the photos, and you pick from one, that is a "shashin shimei" (choosing the photo) and it's free.If you walk in and say "I want so-and-so" or if you call them and say "I want so-and-so", you are choosing directly and that is a "hon shimei".They have another fee for AV shimei, but it seems like a lot of the girls are AV stars and they don't even bother with that any more. It's probably just a leftover from days gone by.
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Grimpeur report: Kumi
Went to Grimpeur on a Friday evening around 6 PM. No tout in front. No sign for the shop, Just the 666 with the cloverleaf. First floor. Right hand door all the way to the back. An automatic chime announced my arrival. Guy at the desk put out three pictures. I picked the shortest one. He gestured for me to sit on the couch. I was there for two seconds as he conferred with someone behind the curtain. He called me back to the counter and said "Dame desu". She wasn't available. I didn't get a chance to ask if she just was busy at the moment. I picked the next shortest, Kumi, who happened to be one of the Picks of the Day, 3000 off. We settled up on a 60 minute course. He asked me my name and wrote it on a frequent customer card. Looks like 1000 off the first five visits, 2000 off the next 5, and VIP on the tenth visit. I won't have time to achieve that exalted status on this trip.To answer a question from an earlier post: Judging from the number of girlish voices I heard chattering behind the curtain, at least a couple of the girls are there on site. The guide took me out of the shop and to the right. The love hotel he was heading to was Moti(?). It is the black one 10 meters past the shop. It got lousy reviews in a previous report, so I asked him to take me to a better one. He said there was one for 4500 to 5000. I agreed, so off we went to the Hotel Zero. My guide asked me the "play time" I had chosen (60 min) as we got to the hotel. He went in with me and talked to the clerk. I pressed the button on picture of room the I wanted. The available ones were lit up in red. They all looked the same - no themes or anything. The clerk held up out a placard with what I assumed were a bunch of rules. After a second or two it became clear she was waiting for me to say something. I said, "Hai. Wakarimashita." That was sufficient. I paid and got the key to 201. The guide walked me to the room and said Kumi would be there in a few minutes.Room was small but very nice. Kumi arrived with a knock even though there was a doorbell. She is a total J-girl - boots, dark pantyhose, denim shorts, jewel-encrusted red fingernails. She is very early twenties, maybe 160 cm with her boots off. A regular girl, not bony, not chubby. Lightly trimmed bush.After we exchanged greetings and she set her stuff down, she set the timer in her purse. We took a shower together which was mostly her washing me. No bath which was fine for 60 min. She did some strategic self-cleaning and rinsed her mouth out with some stuff that looked like motor oil. I'm glad I wasn't expected to do the same.She learned her English in England and it was more than good enough for what we had to do. She was very GFE and affectionate. BBBJ, DATY, FS. Two shots. Judging from her actions, she would be fine with CIM, but be polite and ask first. It might be an extra charge. No pics, of course. She gave me a few minutes after the buzzer to finish my second time - no rush. And she showered with me again afterward. Overall, an excellent time and a good value. I'd definitely repeat with Kumi.SbySW
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Gaijin friendly places with no Japanese needed 1
A little bit of background:I happened to have a few days in Tokyo so I did some research on this forum and gathered some information before I go. Now I am back so I am reporting some of my experience there.I would like to try different things so I went to very different places. I find the directions on this page very helpful so I will try to help you find the place by include as much direction and information as possible.1. Emotion [url]http://www.emotion.vc/[/url][url]http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E5%93%81%E5%B7%9D%E5%8C%BA%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%94%E5%8F%8D%E7%94%B0%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%8D%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%96%EF%BC%8D%EF%BC%92&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=38.876412,79.013672&ie=UTF8&ll=35.626897,139.724877&spn=0.002978,0.004823&z=18[/url]access: Very easy to find and close to the station. The direction on their website is rather complicated, so just follow google map. The catch is that it is on a small alley and if I haven't looked at the door sign here:[url]http://www.emotion.vc/hpe-map-pic9.jpg[/url]I would have totally missed it.Very interesting green stairs going up:[url]http://www.emotion.vc/hpe-map-pic11.jpg[/url]The doorman didn't mind that I am not Japanese and don't speak any Japanese at all. However he asked me for 80000 yen which is more than what I usually see quoted on this forum. I didn't get to pick the girl at all either. He lead me into the room and it is just one room with a few sofa all facing the same way. I sat down on the last one, and waited for a few minutes. A girl shown up with a gown on and only a gown. She was young and had a slim body, but very small boobs. She sit down and we hugged and kissed. From all the girls in Tokyo, she was probably the only one who gave me a (seemingly at least) passionate kiss. A lot of tongue. She sat down and tried to communicate with me, but when she realise that it is not possible we just hug. When I start groping her and touching her all over her body she would giggles with her nice voice which is great. She also do a very very good job with her BBBJ. When she moves her head up and down she also rotate it around my dick which generates another level of sensation. I came rather quickly, and she took all my load in her mouth, sucking and cleaning it mostly with her mouth. She then cleans me up with some towel before she split my load out on another towel. We then huddle for a bit. I actually enjoy huddling very much so it was a big plus for me. After a while she stand up and signal me to stay by holding out her hand, so I did.Another girl came, she was not as nice. Probably much older, fat with small tits. At least her lips was soft. She did a good job with her BBBJ though. Not as good as the first girl, but she still managed to make me cum rather quickly. I suppose it was too quick so we huddle for a bit again. After a while she stands up and hold my arm around hers and we walked off to the entrance so I know that's the end of it.The guy in the sofa in front of me got a girl much cuter and had much better body figure... I suppose if you speak Japanese and know how to pick a girl, it would have been much better. He was also doing 69 and sumata with the girl... but I am not sure if I would want to do that with any of the girls I had.Summary: Best BBBJ I had in tokyo, best Kisses as well. However girls quality is really not that good.2. UCLA [url]http://uclabear.kir.jp/top.html[/url][url]http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E8%B1%8A%E5%B3%B6%E5%8C%BA%E6%9D%B1%E6%B1%A0%E8%A2%8B1-42-17&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=38.876412,79.013672&ie=UTF8&ll=35.730976,139.712759&spn=0.005948,0.009645&z=17[/url]access: easy and close to the station as well. Their sign actually has an American flag as the background so it should be easy to locate. It is up stairs on the third floor (two stairs up).I was asked for 14000 yen and I could pick the girl from the photos on the wall. I have choosen a young one.I was first asked to wait in the room right up from the stairs, and then he lead me into a hallway with many small rooms. I was lead to the last room of the hallway. The girl was young and slim. She first asked me to take off my clothes and get a shower. All with body language. After I am done she signal me to lay down and she started an amazing BBBJ. However she didn't really suck much of my dick. She licked the tip in a really nice way, running her tongue all around the tip of my dick. She then sucks on the tip a bit but just the very tip of it. It felt awsome, but she never got pass much of the tip of it. However it didn't last long. She then pour some of that gel on me and started a pretty good HJ. I am not very used to HJ and I couldn't come. Asked her if she could continue with the BBBJ but she refused =(. Anyways she continued to try and finish with HJ but I just couldn't take it. It feels good but I just couldn't, maybe due to the two load I had last night at emotion and this is the morning right after... I just asked to hug her a bit but she was not even very willing to let me hold and hug her with both of us sleeping on the bed. When it is almost time I went took a shower and I am off without a single shot...Summary: Girl was ok, thin and at least smooth skins... cute with thick lips, but not willing to kiss. Great BBBJ and best HJ ever, but not very willing to service... nothing special as some other people have experienced said they have on this board. probably because I don't speak any Japanese...3. New Hot Point [url]http://www.new-hot-point.com/price.html[/url][url]http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E6%96%B0%E5%AE%BF%E5%8C%BA%E6%AD%8C%E8%88%9E%E4%BC%8E%E7%94%BA%EF%BC%91%E4%B8%81%E7%9B%AE%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%97%E2%88%92%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%93&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=40.368629,79.013672&ie=UTF8&ll=35.694036,139.700952&spn=0.003089,0.004823&z=18[/url]I went here right after UCLA as I was not satisifed.This one is on the main street of Kabukicho. The trick is that it is on the 9th floor. You need to find the building with the sign that said ニューホットポイント, then take the elevator up there.I paid 2000 yen at the reception and were asked to put down my camera if any. They give me a plastic sign with number on it to claim my phone back afterwards. Then I was seated waiting for the show to start in the room with two others waiting. One more person came after I did, and when the show seems to be ready the group of 4 of us were all lead into the show room, where each seat looks like a telephone booth. After a little wait a gogerous girl shown up talking to me in Japanese. I didn't understand a word but the menu was on the wall so I pointed to the 4000 yen one and paid the girl. After a while the show started and it was the gogerious girl who was taking the money. I was so happy it was her. With nice dancing music she stripped, and occationally came close to the booth to show her breast or pussy to each of us. Her body figure was great and the boobs looks real. Smooth and white skin, very attractive dance.After the dance, I think she started "servicing" each booth starting from the entrance as I can hear the noise. I was the third. Another show girl shown up to strip but she doesn't even look as cute as the first girl, and her boobs looks fake. This is good for me however as I have some time to warm myself up before the girl shows up at my booth. Her body was great. This is the kind of girl who is cute with big boob that you see on the street which you really want to go up and grop. She took off her top before she started and it looked amazing. Her skin was smooth and she had perfect body figure. It turns me on just by seeing her body. However the CBJ/HJ service was the worse out of all I had. She started with a CBJ, which didn't last long and I barely feel anything. I think I was just using the time to grab her boobs. Which does feel great. She then took off the condom to try to finish with her hands. Her technique sucks as well but I think I got warm enough watching her strip earlier on and from the boob grabing, so I did come off this time.Summary: strip dance from a dancer with great body, very smooth skin. However physical service technique is the worst out of all.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Gaijin friendly place with no Japanese required 2
4. Martini Soapland [url]http://www.rosso-martini.com/companion.php[/url]東京都台東区千束4-23-1A step up from the above... I tried a soapland. I am not providing google map here since I didn't walk there. I took the suggestion from this board and I first take a train to Ueno station. From there I took the cap and show the driver the address 東京都台東区千束4-23-1. The cap driver put it on his GPS and off we go.He actually dropped me off at 東京都台東区千束4-23-3 and told me to get off... he said something but I didn't understand. After I got off I try looking for 東京都台東区千束4-23-1. The taxi driver saw me looking around so he stopped and got off his taxi to show me that I actually had to go into a small alley where his cap couldn't reach.See google map street view for the alley I had to walk into:[url]http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E5%8F%B0%E6%9D%B1%E5%8C%BA%E5%8D%83%E6%9D%9F4-23-3&sll=35.722824,139.795532&sspn=0.012351,0.01929&ie=UTF8&ll=35.722963,139.795403&spn=0.012351,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A&layer=c&cbll=35.723047,139.795345&panoid=xESComKJE-Q91O8kemsWgQ&cbp=12,44.32,,0,4.4[/url]There I saw the doorman as well as the Martini sign.He didn't mind that I am not Japanese and don't speak any Japanese at all. The doorman lead me to a waiting room and he knee down in front of me everytime he talked to me. After some wait, he came back with some paper and he wrote 120 mins 90000 yen on it. It was the expected price I saw from this board so I agreed to it right the way. I paid up and I was then offered some drinks. The doorman returned with the drinks and 3 photo frames. I picked 静香 from the three... she seems to have the largest breast measurement...Some more wait, and the doorman lead me into a hallway where the girl 静香 was waiting. She nicely hold my hand as if she is my gf as we walk down the hallway. Very nice feeling there.As we go into the room we first both sat down on the bed. Although she doesn't speak any english at all and I don't speak any Japanese, she actually tired to start a conservation with me. I managed to get her to understand that I came to Tokyo by myself and this is the first time I have been to a soapland. Not sure if she understood exactly what I meant but she seems happy and gave me a nice hug. I can feel her boobs pushed against my chest which is a great feeling. After the small talk she asked me to take a shower first. She helped me take off my clothes, and shown me to their special chair which the middle is open. Readers who are faimilar with soupland will know what I am talking about, it is for the girl to easily reach and clean the lower parts of you.She then started cleaning me. She washed my body and rubbed her boobs on my back. After that she knee in front of me to start cleaning my foot. She would let my foot rest on her thigh. At first I was a bit uneasy about it but I used to it really quickly. The feeling of superiority is amazing (although it cost a lot...). She carefully cleaned everything including each toe and in between them, while I have my foot resting on her thigh. She then cleaned my private parts, but no elebrate HJ/BJ happened.She then lead me into the tub and jumped in with me. She lay down with her back on me so I can hold her around my arms and groped her. My dick is also rubbing against her lower back closer to her ass which felt great. I did try to reach down to her pussy from in front but she was a bit too tall for me to get there. She then turns around and went under me in water. I have seen this in Japanese AV so I know what I should do. I started supporting myself to stay above her. She had only her head out of water right between my thighs, so you all know what she would do next. Her BBBJ was just average compared to all the ones I got in Tokyo though.She then lead me onto the bed. After a bit of hugging, she put a condom on me for FS. First with her on top then me on top. With years of spoiled no cover sex with my (now ex) girlfriend, I can't say I enjoyed it too much so I didn't even cum. After a while I got bored and suggest just taking a rest. All these are done with just body language and she seems to cop along fine.This is an hour into the session. Although it did feel great having a naked girl in my arm, I started looking for a bit more action. However she didn't seems to be very proactive to start anything. Maybe due to the language barrier. So I started pointing to the huge grey air mat in the room. It took a while before she understands that I would like to try that. She then started perparing it by first cleaning it up throughtly. She then put gel all over it and lead me onto it, facing down. It sure was a very slippery mat.Her moves include sliding up and down beside me to rub her boobs along the side of my body, and another one with both of her legs around one of mine so she can rub her thighs and pussy up and down my leg.Another fun one when she let me foot rest on her boobs while she cleans it. I have never rub a girl's boobs with my foot before, it felt funny but nice. Especially feeling her nipple with my foot.And then, the unimaginable happend.She started sucking my toes. She sucked the big toe first, then the other one by one. Sometimes four at a time. She even lick in between the toes. This is by far the biggest surprise. Having my toe sucked for the first time, it was amazing! I never expected her to do it and really didn't expect it to feel that good. It can't really compare to having my dick sucked, but given I had my dick sucked like 4 times in 3 days, it did get a bit num. A suck on the toe definitely was a fresh change and boy it felt wonderful. I am relatively young and I do have perfectly smooth skins only my whole foot. I also have all my toe nails properly clipped so I suppose my toes look kind of cute. But I really didn't expect that she would suck and lick them.After the amazing toe clean up, she turned me around to clean the front of my body. No big surprise there, more rubbing my body with her boob, and she finished with a BBBJ. First and only time I cummed in the two hour session. Again average quality BBBJ, but with the fresh excitment from the toe, it came easier.She then gives me a wash to wash off all the gel from the air mat, and lead me into the tub again. She finished her clean up for the mat and joined me. Again I hold her around me, with her head resting on my chest, and my hands on her boobs. Some gental groping, very relaxing and comfortable.After a while we get back on the bed. We huddled a bit and I tried to talk to her but it is hard to get through. At least at the end she understood when I told her I liked her voice and she said thank you. I suggested another BBBJ by pointing to her mouth then to my dick, and she gets on with it with a smile. I didn't recover as quickly as I though and I had to tell her to stop before I could cum. However over all I was very satisifed. We looked at the clock and it is almost time, so we put on our clothes and she gave me a final hug, then we left the room together. Again she hold my hand with our 10 fingers crossed while she escorted me out. I loved it.I was lead back to the first room where the doorman discussed the price with me. The doorman came again and offered more drinks. He also asked me if the service was ok (I guess that was what he meant from his "OK" hand sign). He then asked me another question which I have no idea what it was, and then he started to ask in english "Walk?". From reading on the forum I understand he meant how I wanted to leave. I said "Ueno station" and that's pretty much the only thing I said closest to Japanese the whole time... He got it and went out to perpare for the ride. A huge white limmo then await me outside and it took me to the Ueno JR station.Summary: Very expensive but if you can afford it, it is definitely something to try. Having my toe sucked for the first time in my life was an awsome experience. Everyone including the girl serves you which such high level of respect makes you feel superior. Yes I realise that it was because I paid a handsome amoung of money, but you can't buy that great feeling in many other places. I felt great and relaxed for the rest of the day. If I had more time with my trip I definitely would have come back for more. However I have a feeling that what they give you varies depending on if you can speak Japanese or know how to communicate to the girl what you want her to do. I could have missed the whole air mat part if I didn't ask for it. However she thrown in the unexpected toe sucking without me asking, which I don't think happens to everyone else. Be sure to be active in asking the girl to do what you want, and if I were to go again I will definitely try to learn a few more Japanese phrase before going.Overall Summary:I definitely got to try a few very different things. If I were to go again, I would not save the best til the last as I don't think I can recover quick enough to enjoy the last awsome soupland experience.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. 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Nasty Dolls
Is it still in operation?Tried calling and emailing for a weeknow.No response, and email bounced.
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[QUOTE=Papaiya]4. Martini Soapland [url]http://www.rosso-martini.com/companion.php[/url]東京都台東区千束4-23-1A step The doorman lead me to a waiting room and he knee down in front of me everytime he talked to me. After some wait, he came back with some paper and he wrote 120 mins 90000 yen on it. It was the expected price I saw from this board so I agreed to it right the way.[/QUOTE]The website displays a price of 120min/30,000 [so likely 60,000 total] and a -20,000 discount for a free (they choose girl) midday course [so 40,000].Paying 90,000 is way too much, equal to a 50% gaijin tax. However if you are loaded, I guess it means little. Since I will never be able to afford 45,000/hr, it doesn't affect me really.
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[QUOTE=Lion]The website displays a price of 120min/30,000 [so likely 60,000 total] and a -20,000 discount for a free (they choose girl) midday course [so 40,000].Paying 90,000 is way too much, equal to a 50% gaijin tax. However if you are loaded, I guess it means little. Since I will never be able to afford 45,000/hr, it doesn't affect me really.[/QUOTE]Actually, the total cost at Martini (総額) is 80,000 yen according to info in Japanese on the net, so the apparent gaijin tax is only 10,000.Where you often loose out is on the different discounts they may have (early morning, new faces, rainy day, whatever). I guess they figure that if a non-Japanese makes it all the way into their shop they won't mind "just this one time." Probably aren't coming back.I don't know what time of day Papaiya visited, but their website states that their "free" (meaning you don't choose your provider) discount is 20,000 yen off, but only from 10:30am to 2:00pm, and only if you specifically ask for it.
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[QUOTE=Papaiya]After some wait, he came back with some paper and he wrote 120 mins 90000 yen on it. It was the expected price I saw from this board so I agreed to it right the way.[/QUOTE]Same price as I paid. When I was there, I a Japanese salary man entered right after me. While I didn't rudely stare and try to count the money he plopped down, it seemed like he was forking out about the same amount. Maybe minus the website discount (which was definitely not for Gaijin). So I don't think there is really a big foreigner tax here. It is just a high end, very expensive place.[QUOTE=Papaiya]The feeling of superiority is amazing (although it cost a lot.). [/Quote]I think that is a big part of the attraction about this kind of place. I wouldn't call the service GFE. More like LFE (loving servant experience). As I said in my post from last month, it made me feel like the Shogun.[QUOTE=Papaiya]She started sucking my toes. She sucked the big toe first, then the other one by one. Sometimes four at a time. She even lick in between the toes. [/Quote]Didn't get this on my session, but really can't blame her. She probably took one look at my yellow toenails and said "nope, I'd rather lick his ass". Which she did.[QUOTE=Papaiya]I definitely got to try a few very different things. If I were to go again, I would not save the best til the last as I don't think I can recover quick enough to enjoy the last awsome soupland experience.[/Quote]I guess I was lucky, in that the girl I was with went straight into BBBJ/CFS before the shower, so I had more time to recharge. However, with only 2 hours I can see how if you don't fire right away you might not get another chance.
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[QUOTE=South by SW 2] ... rinsed her mouth out with some stuff that looked like motor oil.[/QUOTE]That's an iodine based mouthwash/gargle and I've always been expected to gargle with it - it's not so bad. Maybe you look less diseased than me? ;)
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[QUOTE=South by SW 2]Went to Grimpeur on a Friday evening around 6 PM.[/QUOTE]SBSW, how is your Japanese? Mine is pretty basic (greetings, basic directions, etc.), and I am wondering if it would be sufficient to pass the GJLAT (Grimpur Japanese Language Aptitude Test). I am savvy enough to say "hai" or nod and grunt to most questions. Since I will be staying in Roppongi for my next trip, I figure it would be pretty easy for me to take the bus to Shibuya, and even if I miss the last bus back the cab fare back should not be too bad, so I would like to try Grimpur if I stand a decent chance of getting serviced.
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Shotdown at Cafe De AiAi
Stopped by Shibuya Cafe De AiAi one weekday afternoon during a break in the rain. It is a deai cafe. There were two guys at the front desk. I asked for a new membership. The first guy launched into the rules. I was catching maybe one sentence in three, but I knew them from the website. [url]http://www.cafedeaiai.net/index.html[/url]The second guy stopped him and asked me a couple of rapid fire questions that I didn't catch. I asked him to repeat them. He then said in slow, clear Japanese that it would be too difficult for me to talk to the girls. Sorry. Yeah, that made two of us.Ultra Gaijin and Ginger obviously have better Japanese skills than I do. No luck with my "What is that big white building over there?" Japanese. It seems safe to assume intermediate conversational Japanese is required.SbySW
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Sakura
[QUOTE=Bar Pillar]My Fellow Mongers, Here is my anticipated review of Sakura aka tokyoplaygirl. Her pics are accurate and I definitely found her attractive. She is quite tall and definitley curvy. I felt like I was banging a hot basketball player or volleyball player. She has a very nice personality. She speaks english well. She gives great bbj. She is not into anal--but didn't mind a little fingerplay in the ole browneye. She got a GREAT ASS. I would definitely recommend her if you like big girls. I asked her about her friend hikaru and if its true 3p. She said they don't go down on each other but they do kiss and suck tities. The only issue is she is a bit slow to reply to emails.[/QUOTE]Sakura is back in Tokyo now and also offering an anal option - has anyone tried her recently?
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[QUOTE=Muku1]Actually, the total cost at Martini (総額) is 80,000 yen according to info in Japanese on the net, so the apparent gaijin tax is only 10,000.Where you often loose out is on the different discounts they may have (early morn.[/QUOTE]I was just going by the rule of thumb that the bath fee is usually about half the total. Where did you find the total mentioned? On that site or elsewhere?I wonder if any foreigner mentioning the discount would get it...
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[QUOTE=Japanguy]That's an iodine based mouthwash/gargle and I've always been expected to gargle with it - it's not so bad. Maybe you look less diseased than me? ;)[/QUOTE]LOL, Maybe it was the suit and tie...
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[QUOTE=South by SW 2]The GJLAT is more of an eye exam. [/QUOTE]I'll be sure to bring my reading glasses then.LOL!
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[QUOTE=Lion]Where did you find the total mentioned? On that site or elsewhere? [/QUOTE]I found it a while back searching "martini" and "? " after someone else mentioned going to Martini (for 90, 000yen). I can't locate the exact site now, but it was basically a one-man show by a guy that visited soaplands all over Japan and wrote up very long, detailed reviews. He intended to get 20, 000 off for using their "new face" discount, but ended up choosing someone else on looks and experience. Said it was worth it! By the way, a lot of Japanese guys say that it's ridiculously expensive too, but they would like to "try it just once! "I think a better rule of thumb is that you end up paying between 2 and 3 times the bath fee, depending on whether you can get any discounts. Here is a list of soaps that all cost 60, 000 yen or more: [url]http://www.tokuhou-kantoh.net/soap/price/index4.html[/url]The bath entry fee for some of these places is as low as 20, 000 yen.I've never been to anything so "high class". You can have a great time for less: Club Amour for 35, 000 to 45, 000 yen was great! [url]http://www.club-amour.jp/index_f.html[/url]By the way, if you can read Japanese, it sometimes pays to become a net member of the soapland sites. They have special member-only discounts, much more revealing photos, and sometimes even let you know who is willing to provide FS without a condom. Useful whether that's your thing or whether you'd like to avoid any provider who goes bareback.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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I'm heading off to Tokyo tomorrow so I thought that I would check out the reports. Great reports from Papaiya and others, and much appreciated.Whilst reading I was thinking that the prices didn't seem too bad, until I realised I had mislaid a decimal place! Dear heavens, are you guys really comfortable paying this kind of money? :) With or without a discount? I guess I'm somewhat hacked off because of the exchange rate is so bad at the moment... Perhaps it seems different if you're a resident?I'm in Singapore at the moment, and realised that it was cheaper to fly to BKK for two days and nights, staying in a nice hotel, than it was to stay in Singapore... And the money I saved I put to good use. I'm sure if I lived in Japan I'd be saving my money for trips to BKK, but I guess that's not always possible.Anyway, enjoy yourselves, fellas, and you certainly won't be bumping into me! :)
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The truth? about Ageha
[QUOTE=Xslikx]I went to Grimpeur for the first time a few weekends ago. They guy at the counter confirmed that I could speak Japanese and then showed me a selection of six girls who would do Gaijin. I went with Ageha, because the description of her made it sound like she was a dirty girl, and I was looking for a girl who wasn't waify thin.I went to a hotel around the corner, got squared away in a room for a couple of hours and then called the shop. When she arrived, she had on a little blue one-piece, matching thong and bra set, and somewhat beat white heels. She's a fairly typical gyaru, mid to late 20s, long bleached brown hair, tons of make-up, and huge encrusted fake nails. She was every inch the gyaru I wanted to bang. Her body is thick, but not fat, lumpy thick - more like poured-into-that-dress thick. I started getting wood right away. She has a pretty frank manner. She broke out a bunch of bottles of various gels and started pouring a bath. She was really insistent on the idea of a bubble bath. While the bath was pouring, we did some gelly play in the bathroom, with her sliding her naked body all over me and playing with my cock. When we got into the tub, she gave me some BBBJ. Then we got out, dried off and climbed under the covers. We made out, I sucked on her titties, ate her pussy, and we just rolled naturally into FS, no questions or discussion. We fucked for a good while and even though she made a number of remarks about it hurting, she didn't want me to stop. At one point she got out a special BJ gel that she put in her mouth and gave me some more BJ. It was some kind of minty gel and it kind of tingled. After that, I put my cock back in her pussy, and ended up finishing on her ass. I was in the mood for some big booty, and Ageha delivered.We hoped back in the tub and chatted. She told me I was her third gaijin customer, but she felt that one didn't really count, because he had just wanted to play with her titties. She also worried that her pussy would hurt the next day and that it might have been stretched out. (She kept saying, as Japanese girls love to say, that her pussy had been destroyed - マンコ壊れたわ. NB: I am in no way particularly large.) We exchanged info by sekigaisen, and I haven't heard from her since.[/QUOTE]I've been reading so much about Grinpeur lately, I decided to give it a shot. Arrived about 4:30PM and was shown pictures of 3 girls (Ageha, Yun, and Airi) that were available. I remembered the post above mentioned Ageha was down for FS and figured I would give it a go.Same treatment as mentioned above... bath, slippery body gel, menthol BJ gel, etc. But when it came down to it, she was not down for FS, and said she never did FS with customers. I spent some time south of the border doing DATY. She came several times (she said she came 4 times) and asked me how come I was so good at that. I figured I was good to go for FS... but it was not to be!She did an amazing sumata however. I had to do a double take on several occasions. She even did a revers cowgirl sumata that totally freaked me out. I mean I thought sure I was inside her... which I absolutely didn't want to be as I wasn't covered. I pulled away a little bit and she leaned over and moved her ahnd to show me that I wasn't really inside.... WOW! I have had sumata on several occasions before, but nothing like this!As for the BBBJ, the menthol BJ gel was really great! She warms it in hot water and when she uses it's indescribable.Lastly, this girl is a bit freaky. When we were getting warmed up on the bed, she started making some kind of cat-like noises. Then when I was doin' the DATY she would put her hand in her mouth and make squeals that sound like a newborn baby when she came. She kind of threw me off my game when she first came, but I soldiered on. So - as for the report from Xslikx above, either he is a slick operator and she was putty in his hands, or she totally fooled him with some excellent sumata technique. Either way it was no dice in my case... YMMV!
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[QUOTE=Mgz1234]Went down for one of those famous BBBJs at JanJan in Sugamo two weeks ago. The girl, Rui was her name was cute enough but her service was certainly not worth the money or the wait. After 15 minutes of non inspired sucking during which I couldn't cum, she looked up at me and said "theres no more time" in Japanese and proceeded to give me a handjob. In the end it was pretty cheap (3000 yen) but the clamydia that she gave me was more costly to cure.[/QUOTE]Any other of you guys actually got an STD from this place? I went to Hinomaru a couple of times and that place never gave me an STD. But price is higher, maybe that's why? Are the girls at JanJan checked on a regular basis?
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Anyway, enjoy yourselves, fellas, and you certainly won't be bumping into me! :)[/QUOTE]Anytime I am in Singapore or Japan I know that I'll be in Bangkok shortly. It is hard but I bide my time.
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For MATSU69: So Grimpeur is gaijin friendly?
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[QUOTE=Classico]Is it still in operation?Tried calling and emailing for a weeknow.No response, and email bounced.[/QUOTE]Yes, still in action and providing a good service. Mama-san (Megu) always answers when I call her.
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[QUOTE=Serpaz]For MATSU69: So Grimpeur is gaijin friendly?[/QUOTE]Um... just in the last 2 weeks, there are at least 10 trip reports from forum members talking about their exploits to Grinpeur. Some of the reports specifically mention that it is Gaijin friendly now. In fact some reports even mention that the place will send somebody to handhold you to the hotel if you can't find one. Just get off your *ss and go there!
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[QUOTE=Serpaz]For MATSU69: So Grimpeur is gaijin friendly?[/QUOTE]Come on, there's been about 10 reports in the last week. How can you think Grimpeur is Japanese only?
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[QUOTE=Hot Bot]Come on, there's been about 10 reports in the last week. How can you think Grimpeur is Japanese only?[/QUOTE]Correct. But what the reports do not always state clearly, is the level of Japanese, if any, required. This applies to a lot of places mentionned on this thread, which may well be gaijin-friendly, but not to non japanese speakers.
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[QUOTE=Hot Bot]Come on, there's been about 10 reports in the last week. How can you think Grimpeur is Japanese only?[/QUOTE]I don't speak japanese, i don't understand if I can use Grimpeur's services, can they accept me?
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Anybody try this service?[url]http://www.storydh.com/sys.html[/url] Video play is fantastic!But i think this is not for gaijin!
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[QUOTE=Serpaz]For MATSU69: So Grimpeur is gaijin friendly?[/QUOTE]PLEASE do NOT go! If you can't take the time to read the past 10 reports, then you will most likely f*ck it up for the rest of us.
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[QUOTE=Dreams]Correct. But what the reports do not always state clearly, is the level of Japanese, if any, required. This applies to a lot of places mentionned on this thread, which may well be gaijin-friendly, but not to non japanese speakers.[/QUOTE]I disagree. If you read the reports carefully, instead of just skimming over them, you will find all the details you need to know. One report even states they will hold your hand and walk you to a love hotel. I'm just glad to know they don't stick around and help you with your tool.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Dear heavens, are you guys really comfortable paying this kind of money? :) [/QUOTE]I think what you are seeing is several of us willing to shell this out "just once" to see what one of these really high end places are like. At least that was true in my case. Don't knock us. By posting here we are also taking a hit for the team so others won't go in there and get blindsided thinking that the 30, 000 yen price on the website is all-inclusive. Now you know what to expect and can decide for yourself if it is for you.Truth be told, I probably won't do it again at that price, but I am glad I went once in my life. When I'm 100 years old, sitting in the old folks home smiling absently at the ceiling. You know what I'll be thinking about.
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Already answered
[QUOTE=Dreams]Correct. But what the reports do not always state clearly, is the level of Japanese, if any, required. This applies to a lot of places mentionned on this thread, which may well be gaijin-friendly, but not to non japanese speakers.[/QUOTE]Dreams. As we all know, in Japan a tencho can change his mind on anytime. "This foreigner is OK, that foreigner is not". "Your Japanese is good enough, Japanese language is not necessary". Hell, I've been told by the tout outside that foreigners are no problem, only to go inside and be rejected because I'm Gaijin (regardless of J level).It's pretty much case by case. There have been enough posts that demonstrate very limited to no Japanese is acceptable at this place to make the point. The guy is worrying this thing to death. He has 4 posts, 3 of which ask the same question about Grinpeur. Several reports over the last 2 weeks have said that Japanese is not really necessary there. They have a sign with the price and time options which is easy to read and they point to. They see you are a foreigner and they put out the pics of the girls who are down with Gaijin. They will even walk you to the hotel and show you how to choose. Again. It's all been put in the forum the guy just has to read back through 3 whole pages of posts!
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Grimpeur foreigner friendly ?
[QUOTE=Dreams]Correct. But what the reports do not always state clearly, is the level of Japanese, if any, required. This applies to a lot of places mentionned on this thread, which may well be gaijin-friendly, but not to non japanese speakers.[/QUOTE]Thanks Dreams. I will vouch for this fact. This place will allow non-Japanese but you have to speak Japanese and they will test you on it. There are 3 guys at the desk in there at any particular time and one is kind of friendly and tolerant and the others are not, probably depending on what kind of day they are having and you may get sent packing if you cannot answer the questions they ask you. Now you may luck out, that is they will not have to tell you any specifics like that the girl is 1 hour late, or the hotel you asked for is booked and you need to go down the street to an alternate hotel and they may have an extra guy around to escort you down the street but this is not the common scenario. Also you need to communicate with the girl and know enough that things like CIM are an additional fee. These girls are not screened for their English ability like AM and CB. So bottom line, if you do not have the basics down in Japanese language then just go to Hinomaru or talk to an Chinese tout in Shinjuku Kabukicho(not the black guys), order from AM or club boo who all speak English. Don't go to Grimpeur because you just make it harder for the rest of us to get in and then no one will post anything on here again and you stand a fair chance of taking a bus ride home without getting serviced.
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I occasionally go there. You will not get service if you can't speak Japanese. You don't need a high level but you will need to fake it (nodding and 'eh' at the right time is usually sufficient but you need to do it when they are explaining, not asking you a specific question). If your Japanese is weak and your body language is not convincing you will be turned away. The young guy there used to ask me basic stuff like where did I hear about the shop, etc. If I answer yes or nod I would be shown the door. You need to have adequate receptive Japanese skills to know what they are asking. You don't need to be conversational from that standpoint. You just need to understand the rules and be able to choose options, time and other relevant things.This place is not one of my favorites because the ladies who service foreigners are not the hot ones, unfortunately. I usually get the older sister types in their late 20s (maybe even early 30s, I can't really tell) but interestingly, I've never had one that was overweight or even a little pudgy. They ones I've had all have had nice figures.It's a licensed health shop so the ladies are checked for disease and it is relatively safe from that standpoint but not 100% safe.[QUOTE=Dreams]Correct. But what the reports do not always state clearly, is the level of Japanese, if any, required. This applies to a lot of places mentionned on this thread, which may well be gaijin-friendly, but not to non japanese speakers.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Josh63]Any other of you guys actually got an STD from this place? I went to Hinomaru a couple of times and that place never gave me an STD. But price is higher, maybe that's why? Are the girls at JanJan checked on a regular basis?[/QUOTE]Well I asked one of the girls there and it seems the place encourages them to get tested but won't pay for it. In the end the girls who want to can go get tests on their own. Think about it though if you we servicing 10 to 20 guys a day for a living just because you like the money, you wouldn't really care or want to know if you had an STD eh.
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Just to conclude....
...on this issue of whether grimpeur is gaijin friendly, and/or non japanese speaker friendly..If you read the answers to my question, you might agree that the question was worth asking, since each answer is different, some saying yes, others no.. and some: sometimes... I was actually not thinkng for a second to go there, I was just curious, and wanted to spot an issue in the way we report. Anyway, I have been going to Japan since many years, and although not able to speak japanese, always had a good time. I have used, and reported about all the known gaijin, non-Japanese speaking places, ( Hinomaru, NYNY, Champs, Sugamo, even in the good old days Seiko 21 and supergirls, AM etc..)just wanted to know if I could add Grimpeur to it. The answer is No. Period.
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Shinjuku - Kabukicho
I was in Shinjuku - specfically Kabukicho section near the soon to be old Koma theater last night with a friend showing him where Asian Relax, Asian Feeling and Hinomaru are located along with a few choice secret places of my own when a tout approached us as I expected. But this guy was different. Well dressed, young, respectful and intelligent. The kind of guy where your impression after talking to him would be, "Hey, I would consider hiring him" or you wonder about the talent being wasted. He was Chinese We grilled him for about 20 min in 3 languages about the possibilities in Shinjuku. He explained that he could take us to a club with J girls, age 20-25 and it was ni-man for 40 min. FS on the menu. I did not have the time to take him up on this but showed him my various member cards and made sure he knew I could not be BS'ed and then quized him on some places I had been and he had all the right answersI think this guy could help out some of the guys who are looking for a J girl meeting for FS and with no language skills.PM me and I will give you his contact info and you can meet him in front of McDonalds or something. Says he is in the area there every night.
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ND is alive and kicking
[QUOTE=Nick Smithson]Yes, still in action and providing a good service. Mama-san (Megu) always answers when I call her.[/QUOTE]I would agree, the place is still alive and kicking. I called them tonight to inquire about availability and there were no vacancies, alas this is because quite a few of their girls were off due to the period. My last session there was with the girl called Emi. I would not recommend her, it was a waste of time and money. However, I had plenty of experiences where my experience was more then satisfactory. YMMV.In any case I would suggest to call during the day time or very late morning. Typically they have girls available either for the evening of the same day or for some day(s) ahead. This has been my experience to date. The only thing to add here is that I started using their service shortly when they opened for business and have been a repeat customer. Interesting that mama-san knows me (probably caller id) pretty well and remembers all the girls I had over the time... this is an interesting example of truly knowing your customer :-)BTW, while we are on the same subject, Junko is back - she was MIA for a few weeks or more. I did not have her before and was told that she looks more like half Japanese and half 'white woman' just a tid bit I thought is worth sharing.
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Really??ES[/QUOTE]You know I struggled with this, at first I was going to say she was only 4 foot!I'm 6 foot and I swear as we were walking together that she was at least 2 feet shorter than me. Mike
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Thanks both for replying. I had a problem with the caller ID issue as dialing 186 as instructed from the hotel phone doesn't seem to work. Eventually called from a mobile instead. Did not manage to try anyone, as no one I am interested in seems to be available. Bad luck I suppose.[QUOTE=Ice Tea13]I would agree, the place is still alive and kicking. I called them tonight to inquire about availability and there were no vacancies, alas this is because quite a few of their girls were off due to the period. My last session there was with the girl called Emi. I would not recommend her, it was a waste of time and money. However, I had plenty of experiences where my experience was more then satisfactory. YMMV.In any case I would suggest to call during the day time or very late morning. Typically they have girls available either for the evening of the same day or for some day(s) ahead. This has been my experience to date. The only thing to add here is that I started using their service shortly when they opened for business and have been a repeat customer. Interesting that mama-san knows me (probably caller id) pretty well and remembers all the girls I had over the time... this is an interesting example of truly knowing your customer :-)BTW, while we are on the same subject, Junko is back - she was MIA for a few weeks or more. I did not have her before and was told that she looks more like half Japanese and half 'white woman' just a tid bit I thought is worth sharing.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Lion]The website displays a price of 120min/30,000 [so likely 60,000 total] and a -20,000 discount for a free (they choose girl) midday course [so 40,000].Paying 90,000 is way too much, equal to a 50% gaijin tax. However if you are loaded, I guess it means little. Since I will never be able to afford 45,000/hr, it doesn't affect me really.[/QUOTE]I am not loaded but as someone pointed out earlier, it really is an experience of a life time. I have never done trips like this before and I am not likely to do it again any time soon. So even I am not really loaded I wouldn't try to ruin my experience by arguing with them over 20000 yen or something which is really just a small fraction of the total cost of the trip. This mentality probably is different from people who are going for it every other week.
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[QUOTE=Dbdoll]Same price as I paid. When I was there, I a Japanese salary man entered right after me. While I didn't rudely stare and try to count the money he plopped down, it seemed like he was forking out about the same amount. Maybe minus the website discount (which was definitely not for Gaijin). So I don't think there is really a big foreigner tax here. It is just a high end, very expensive place.I think that is a big part of the attraction about this kind of place. I wouldn't call the service GFE. More like LFE (loving servant experience). As I said in my post from last month, it made me feel like the Shogun.Didn't get this on my session, but really can't blame her. She probably took one look at my yellow toenails and said "nope, I'd rather lick his ass". Which she did.I guess I was lucky, in that the girl I was with went straight into BBBJ/CFS before the shower, so I had more time to recharge. However, with only 2 hours I can see how if you don't fire right away you might not get another chance.[/QUOTE]I didn't get an ass lick. Nor any of the special things like tits fuck or sumata which seems to be mentioned very often on this board. However I really don't think I can get the toe lick from anywhere else. So I am happy.
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[QUOTE=Matsu69]I've been reading so much about Grinpeur lately, I decided to give it a shot. Arrived about 4:30PM and was shown pictures of 3 girls (Ageha, Yun, and Airi) that were available. I remembered the post above mentioned Ageha was down for FS and figured I would give it a go.Same treatment as mentioned above. Bath, slippery body gel, menthol BJ gel, etc. But when it came down to it, she was not down for FS, and said she never did FS with customers. I spent some time south of the border doing DATY. She came several times (she said she came 4 times) and asked me how come I was so good at that. I figured I was good to go for FS. But it was not to be! She did an amazing sumata however. I had to do a double take on several occasions. She even did a revers cowgirl sumata that totally freaked me out. I mean I thought sure I was inside her. Which I absolutely didn't want to be as I wasn't covered. I pulled away a little bit and she leaned over and moved her ahnd to show me that I wasn't really inside. WOW! I have had sumata on several occasions before, but nothing like this! As for the BBBJ, the menthol BJ gel was really great! She warms it in hot water and when she uses it's indescribable.Lastly, this girl is a bit freaky. When we were getting warmed up on the bed, she started making some kind of cat-like noises. Then when I was doin' the DATY she would put her hand in her mouth and make squeals that sound like a newborn baby when she came. She kind of threw me off my game when she first came, but I soldiered on.So. As for the report from Xslikx above, either he is a slick operator and she was putty in his hands, or she totally fooled him with some excellent sumata technique. Either way it was no dice in my case. YMMV! [/QUOTE]That sounds great. Now I really regret missing out on Grimpeur. I was at the door and found the 666 sign. But I didn't know exactly where is Grimpeur in there.
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[QUOTE=Papaiya]That sounds great. Now I really regret missing out on Grimpeur. I was at the door and found the 666 sign. But I didn't know exactly where is Grimpeur in there.[/QUOTE]As you walk in the front door of the building, on the ground floor, there are two doorways. One to the left (A) and one to the right (B). Got into the one to the right, and you will see a series of doors. The first 2 doors are closed and have signs saying not to enter in Japanese. The third door is a split door with the top half open and an attendant sitting down behind the lower half of the door. You have arrived at Grinpeur. This is the guy you have to talk to.It's a little confusing at first, but generally in Japan I find if the door is open or unlocked it never hurts to go in and at least try.Good hunting.
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[QUOTE=Matsu69]I've been reading so much about Grinpeur lately, I decided to give it a shot. Arrived about 4:30PM and was shown pictures of 3 girls (Ageha, Yun, and Airi) that were available. I remembered the post above mentioned Ageha was down for FS and figured I would give it a go.Same treatment as mentioned above... bath, slippery body gel, menthol BJ gel, etc. But when it came down to it, she was not down for FS, and said she never did FS with customers. I spent some time south of the border doing DATY. She came several times (she said she came 4 times) and asked me how come I was so good at that. I figured I was good to go for FS... but it was not to be!She did an amazing sumata however. I had to do a double take on several occasions. She even did a revers cowgirl sumata that totally freaked me out. I mean I thought sure I was inside her... which I absolutely didn't want to be as I wasn't covered. I pulled away a little bit and she leaned over and moved her ahnd to show me that I wasn't really inside.... WOW! I have had sumata on several occasions before, but nothing like this!As for the BBBJ, the menthol BJ gel was really great! She warms it in hot water and when she uses it's indescribable.Lastly, this girl is a bit freaky. When we were getting warmed up on the bed, she started making some kind of cat-like noises. Then when I was doin' the DATY she would put her hand in her mouth and make squeals that sound like a newborn baby when she came. She kind of threw me off my game when she first came, but I soldiered on. So - as for the report from Xslikx above, either he is a slick operator and she was putty in his hands, or she totally fooled him with some excellent sumata technique. Either way it was no dice in my case... YMMV![/QUOTE]I had the same experience as Matsu. No FS, but very good otherwise. The Sumata was definitely a double take and felt for real.
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Full House in Otsuka
Have anyone been to this place?[url]http://www.o-fullhouse.com/menu.htm[/url]Website design looks very much like the one of busty-p in Ueno.Maybe same owner/group?
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[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Have anyone been to this place?[url]http://www.o-fullhouse.com/menu.htm[/url]Website design looks very much like the one of busty-p in Ueno.Maybe same owner/group?[/QUOTE]Yeah, should be the same owner. Also, ladies are all Chinese. BJ
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[QUOTE=Stacey Kane]I had the same experience as Matsu. No FS, but very good otherwise. The Sumata was definitely a double take and felt for real.[/QUOTE]Sorry if I mislead people into thinking that FS is always on the menu with Ageha. I fucked her the same way I fuck any other girl - I put on the condom when we were making out and I was going down on her etc, and then I just slowly put my cock in her pussy. I never asked her about it, just as I don't ask a girl I pick up on the street or at bar if it's OK. I just go ahead and do it - but slowly, so they have plenty of time to say no. These are Japanese girls, after all. Unless they've had a fairly full experience of western culture, you can't expect them to be straightforward about anything. Say you're bringing a girl to a love hotel, you can't just ask if she wants to go to a love hotel, you have to ask if she wants to rest, or watch a movie or not ask anything at all and just lead her there. You also can't expect them to be honest about anything. Sometimes they will just offer random bullshit - like "that's the first time anyone has every fucked me in a karaoke booth" or "cum on my face" or whatever. Not because it's true or because it matters to you, but because they want you to have a certain idea of who they are. It's not that they want you to know who they really are - they want you to know who they want you to believe they are.
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Yup, that's the way to do it. I had another one at Grimpeur, who shall remain nameless. She was really into it, slurping on Mr. Happy when I reached over for an Okamoto. Spotting it, she said "hey, do you do such bad things with all the girls? " "Yes I do! " I replied as I rolled her onto her back. She just giggled and made me promise to come see her again. Of course, darling. =P I've had more success with girls that are newer or not as popular. If a girl looks timid and guarded in the photos I avoid her. Some of the hotter, more experienced ones will demure unless you dangle a tip and a promise not to talk. Seriously, it can be hit or miss so don't go there with the expectation of FS. What Xslikx mentioned applies to non-pros as well. If you take the lead and act like it's normal she may just go right along with it. By taking the responsibility for what happens you give her plausible deniability. "He was so hot for me the next thing I knew we were making out in a taxi back to his place." A buddy of mine calls this the "Bad Man Made Me Do It" syndrome. LOL.[QUOTE=Xslikx]Sorry if I mislead people into thinking that FS is always on the menu with Ageha. I fucked her the same way I fuck any other girl - I put on the condom when we were making out and I was going down on her etc, and then I just slowly put my cock in her pussy. I never asked her about it, just as I don't ask a girl I pick up on the street or at bar if it's OK. I just go ahead and do it - but slowly, so they have plenty of time to say no. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bj Star]Yeah, should be the same owner. Also, ladies are all Chinese. BJ[/QUOTE]Can you give me directions? I know they are in Otsuka and I shall call them from the station but would prefer to have a little bit direction before. I can handle basic japanese but sometimes the directions given over the phone are a bit difficult to understand.Thanks for the help.BTW; I suppose they are GF as busty-p.
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Not to be a wet rag mates, but you walk a line when you push a girl into FS.Sounds like you've each done okay so far and good on you, but one of the big issues a lot of places have with foreigners is just this. Especially if shes not keen and as you say just doesnt know how to say "NO." or "Get off me." What you do in your private life is nobody else's business but keep in mind the issues involved and the possible repercussions not just for the girl but for all the other punters out there. Say she does say "Yada," or "yamete," (No or No)? I'd hope we'd all take her word for it and not just go hard in. If not you better be damn sure.. or there's a word for that.Morals aside--there is at least one place that posts polaroids of customers who fuck the girl when theyre not supposed to. Same customers are also banned after that.Don't want to get into a philosophical discussion here so dont take it as a challenge. Just offering an alternative view.
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Hi there,I am usually a lurker, but in a mood to share recent experiences:Yuri from Ucla Little Bear in Ikebukuro ([url]http://uclabear.kir.jp/girls/yuri/index.html[/url]): she is definitely not great-looking, but does have a nice ass, and VERY friendly. What she lacks in looks she makes up for in conversation and willingness to service. Basically walked in, asked to choose - the guy said OK and took my shimei money, but never actually showed me any pictures. He chose for me, apparently. A little pissed off about that but oh well. The wait was only a few minutes but I guess that's because I came in the afternoon on a weekday. Walk into a very small room with essentially just a bed, lots of towels, and an attached bathroom. Hopped in the shower, then to the bed. She wasn't much of a kisser (more like she didn't want to kiss), but that's ok. she started off with a 69 CBJ. I was surprised at the condom because, well, it's not standard in a health place. I'm not sure what her technique was like because I didn't actually feel anything (condoms..) - the view was pretty nice though and I played with it for a bit. Too scared to go down on a working girl though so didn't - although it was certainly tempting. A bit later she came up and started sumata which was actually quite good. It took a long time but she did put an effort. She was VERY nice and chatted throughout the whole session which was nice - she seems to enjoy her work which is a good thing. I don't like girls who are in it only for the money because it makes me feel like a jerk taking advantage of them. Kind of weird maybe? I dunno.Overall: 7Looks: 6 (average face, average body. a bit on the "big" side for a J-girl. I normally prefer thinner/smaller)BJ Technique: 0? (couldn't feel it, so I guess 0?)Sumata: 10Friendliness: 10GFE: she said she doesn't mind gaijin at all. definitely OK.English skills: I have no idea. We spoke only Japanese. I did get the feeling she does speak quite a bit of English though which is probably why the papa-san "chose" for me - although not needed in my case.Damage: 11,000 for 50 minutes, 20,000 more to choose (see above)---The other night I was clubbing in Shibuya with some Japanese friends, and we somehow ended up hanging out in Roppongi until 9am (I blame alcohol). At which point me and another guy were talking while walking to the train station, and I was joking about the "massaji-dou-desuka" Chinese girls being too tired to approach us (that's a first!!). He then did a double-take and was like "let me show you this place!!!" and dragged me back to Shibuya to the area where Grimpeur is. He took me to the place right as you walk up the slope thingie and has a pink sign, maybe ichigo-something, unfortunately the minute the door-guy saw me it the hands were crossed. No way here. So we went up to another store above it, where the door-guy did the same thing, but my (Japanese) friend basically talked him into allowing me in. Thing is- there was only one girl available and the pictures didn't do her any favors. We chose to pass. He then took me to another place which ended up being [url]http://www.garden-gal.com/[/url] - apparently it's a hotel-health type place. The guy as usual said "gaijin ha dame", but he wasn't as strong about it as the other places, i.e. he didn't do the cross-arm thing. My friend was pretty hilarious telling him it's ok, I'm "half". While my Japanese can definitely pass as hafu, I look 100% gaijin. tenchou of course didn't buy it, but I think at that point he just didn't care and decided it was easier to just ask the girl. Called her up and said it was OK. Speaking of the girl - he gave us a choice of 5 girls, but the pictures really didn't show much. I chose the shortest girl hoping she would be cute, but ended up with Karen ([url]http://www.garden-gal.com/index.php?ac=girlprofile&id=1483[/url]) - she's not horrible looking, but not great either.Thing is- apparently Karen was a newbie and just started in the biz a few days earlier. Did the shower thing, then hopped on the bed where she started aggressively DKing me which was a surpise. Oh well, went with it. A lot of touching etc. but it was all me. She came a couple of times at which point my thinking is like "wtf? I didn't come here to get HER off, I came here for her to get ME off"... throughout the whole thing she never even touched me. Just when I was going to provide some "guidance" towards what I really wanted, her alarm thingie went off. Apparently 50 minutes have turned into more like 20. When the alarm went off she immediately proceeded to say something stupid along the lines of "50 minutes is so short" and "it's 10 minutes before 50 minutes so we need to take a shower". I was totally pissed off honestly, but didn't say anything. No point in saying anything - she was new to the biz, and 100% in it just for the money. Pretty sure SHE got off - but I didn't. Completely pointless and a complete waste of money.Took a shower, and chatted a bit. As if what just happened (didn't happen) wasn't enough - she added insult to injury by telling me she doesn't understand why people go to fuzoku and not instead just go and nanpa someone at a bar. I was thinking WTF.. you're spitting in the well you're drinking from... but again didn't say anything. I figured while we're talking about stuff we shouldn't be talking about I might as well ask - and did - why she decided to start fuzoku, and yes- something happened and she needed the money. This is the type of girl that obviously shouldn't be in the industry - is doing it just for the money - does not want to do it - and provides bad service for those who give her a try.As I was going home I called my friend who had his cell off. After something like 30 minutes he calls me back and said he just got out. Apparently the 50 minutes he got weren't the same 50 minutes I (didn't) get. It wasn't all in my mind. He was very happy with the girl he got, so I'm not quite sure about the store in general.Overall: 0 for the girl - not sure about the store. a different girl might be better.Looks: body is cute, face ruins it.. maybe 7 for the bodyBJ Technique: huh? what BJ? she didn't even touch me...Friendliness: 5 - she wasn't friendly at first. once she figured I can carry a conversation in Japanese she became more friendly, but she definitely broke a few unwritten rules with the fuzoku topic at the end.GFE: Store is NOT gaijin-friendly, but you'll definitely get in if you're fluent in Japanese and come with a Japanese friend. Alone I doubt they'll let you in unless you've already been there before.English skills: Zero. No English from neither the girl nor tencho - don't even try.Damage: 13,000 for 50 minutes, 2500 more for the hotelWould I try it again? good question. I don't know. If the spur of the moment hits and same friend drags me back there I suppose I'd go for it - but it's not a place I'll specifically go to.A note about the above: while I did get incredibly poor service (or none, really) from Karen - I am still gaijin. If I ***** and whine about it the store isn't going to care - instead they're going to just make their no-gaijin policy stricter. In the interest of not ruining it for everyone else - I kept my opinion to myself and just took it as a lesson to avoid Karen. I sure hope those of you who encounter similar poor experiences do the same - do NOT complain, or next time none of us (gaijin) will be able to even get in the place. They don't care if you didn't like it - they don't need to. In their mind if you don't like it you can just go away. Keep that in mind, and be as nice as you can to the staff regardless of how well you are treated. Also- learn a little (a lot!) Japanese. this goes a LONG way into getting better service and a better atmosphere, and ensuring these places stay open for us.Good luck![size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Ozboy: Good point, but I don't think anyone is suggesting to "push". You're right, you will get in trouble. What I'm saying is to gently and slowly lead in the desired direction. Act like it's normal but allow her the chance to respond. I've had a couple say "ok. But that'll cost you more" and one who said she just doesn't do that. In the latter case I just dropped it. Unless there is a language barrier I doubt many of them would have a problem protesting. Of course, social common sense applies in paying attention to her mood. If you're really unsure you can always get her hot and heavy and then naughtily suggest, "ne, wouldn't it be so much more fun if we." and let her respond. You're being clear about your intention while still leading.[QUOTE=Ozboy]Not to be a wet rag mates, but you walk a line when you push a girl into FS.Sounds like you've each done okay so far and good on you, but one of the big issues a lot of places have with foreigners is just this. Especially if shes not keen and as you say just doesnt know how to say "NO." or "Get off me."[/QUOTE]
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+1If the place is legit and licensed you could be in for a session with the local yak if the girl reports you and that's not going to be pleasant. One yak may be intimidated by the size of a foreigner but a team of them is not. Enforcement is not done by the police. It's outsourced to private security.[QUOTE=Ozboy]Not to be a wet rag mates, but you walk a line when you push a girl into FS.Sounds like you've each done okay so far and good on you, but one of the big issues a lot of places have with foreigners is just this. Especially if shes not keen and as you say just doesnt know how to say "NO." or "Get off me." What you do in your private life is nobody else's business but keep in mind the issues involved and the possible repercussions not just for the girl but for all the other punters out there. Say she does say "Yada," or "yamete," (No or No)? I'd hope we'd all take her word for it and not just go hard in. If not you better be damn sure.. or there's a word for that.Morals aside--there is at least one place that posts polaroids of customers who fuck the girl when theyre not supposed to. Same customers are also banned after that.Don't want to get into a philosophical discussion here so dont take it as a challenge. Just offering an alternative view.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Nick Smithson]Sakura is back in Tokyo now and also offering an anal option - has anyone tried her recently?[/QUOTE]Apparently not doing anal any more, maybe she had some rough experiences with it. Anyway, when we met she was ok and friendly enough. But not a repeater just because she didn't really seem that interested in a tired "oh, go on and finish will ya" kind of manner. Probably just after as much money as she can get before heading off to australia again to continue her study. She said she would be around until November. I think I'll spend my hard earned on some better option.
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[QUOTE=Ozboy]Not to be a wet rag mates, but you walk a line when you push a girl into FS.[/QUOTE]I've never pushed for FS in Japan, but have received it about 30% of the time in various pink salons, etc. usually because a) I was a repeat customer and loyalty is rewarded or b) I ain't that bad looking and I like to give as well as receive :)
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[QUOTE=tjoe2002]Ozboy: Good point, but I don't think anyone is suggesting to "push". You're right, you will get in trouble. What I'm saying is to gently and slowly lead in the desired direction.[/QUOTE]It's going to be hit and miss as you know, but just FYI some clubs enforce this rule strictly while others don't. I find clubs like Hinomaru look the other way (based on what I've heard, I prefer alternatives), while ones that do good straight business have a zero tolerance policy. So you are taking some risk here depending on the place. Most girls are going to refuse anyways, and in a strict club management will find out and bad things will happen either for you or all future customers like me.This is exactly why people don't post the best pink clubs here - if it's legit people are just going to try to f**k it up anyways. So we tend to post the ones that will look the other way anyways. In any case, best wishes!
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[QUOTE=Nampa Guy]I was in Shinjuku - specfically Kabukicho section near the soon to be old Koma theater last night with a friend showing him where Asian Relax, Asian Feeling and Hinomaru are located along with a few choice secret places of my own when a tout approached us as I expected. But this guy was different. Well dressed, young, respectful and intelligent. The kind of guy where your impression after talking to him would be, "Hey, I would consider hiring him" or you wonder about the talent being wasted. He was Chinese [/QUOTE]Probably a different guy but I had a similar experience few years back. Guy was legit, but it really depends on what you're looking for. He could show me everything based on what I wanted, so the question is quality and what's available. By default though he directed me to certain places (mostly Chinese owned) but when I asked for something he took me even if he didn't know the owner. It sounded like most non-affiliated shops would negotiate a broker's fee of about 2000 for this, and it counts as a discount so you don't pay anything extra and he got paid by the shop. Not sure if that's how it still works though.I went to see over a dozen places and ironically the best place I got was one Chinese hostess club where you could take the girls out. This was after I rejected about a dozen places he patiently suggested or showed me.He actually took me to three different hostess clubs but one was full (decent girls), and one I didn't like any of the girls. But the third one had two girls that were smoking hot. This one was rather high class compared to the other two, with an 8 and 10 there. I have pretty high standards and I didn't expect that, even in a hostess club. The other patron I saw was obviously a long-time customer, brought a bouquet for the mamasan.Entry fee was 5000 yen and I tipped him 1000. Take out is optional but 30000 for a whole night til morning (didn't ask how much for a quickie but it's probably significantly lower), or you can pay for drinks to sing karaoke and chat with her. I practiced my Chinese and had a pretty nice time. This place isn't publicly listed, so meeting him was a stroke of luck here.Now, the problem is that I had to see or hear about over a dozen other places before this one. That's mostly my fault because this was one of my first times in Japan and he really didn't know what I was looking for. At the time I spoke almost no Japanese (now I'm pretty fluent), so I was also locked out of some places I'd otherwise try. Part of it was also his fault because by default he'd take me to places where he knew the owner (Chinese run).The hostess clubs were all either decent or in the last case pretty awesome. But every other type of place he took me like health clubs didn't have such great girls and all of them were Chinese - which by itself isn't the problem, as I'll explain next. Apparently, all the hot or barely decent Chinese girls work at the hostess clubs, and the ugly or almost decent Chinese girls all work at health, happy ending, and FS shops. I saw a dozen girls at 5 places and let me tell you they had this down to a science. Not that someone couldn't be happy with a couple of them, but not for me. I turned down all dozen girls despite wanting to try my first mongering in Japan. At this point he still hadn't shown me the hostess clubs yet.Lastly, if you can speak decent Japanese you can get top service from one of the information booths. The biggest one is the "Manzoku one" (being remodeled last year I saw it), but there are about a dozen of them in Shinjuku all with curtains showing a pair of hands with a big "18" (nobody under 18 allowed) sign. If you go there, those are basically the yellow pages of fuzoku and they'll be happy to walk you to a place assuming it accepts your level of Japanese.Most of the best places can all be accessed using coherent Japanese and basic etiquette. I'll write another report about that when I have a chance.Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Josh63]Any other of you guys actually got an STD from this place? I went to Hinomaru a couple of times and that place never gave me an STD. But price is higher, maybe that's why? Are the girls at JanJan checked on a regular basis?[/QUOTE]Price doesn't guarantee anything about STDs. I wouldn't count on all of them getting checked, because the best that would mean is she has STDs less often than not getting tested/treated periodically It's your risk to take but personally bbbj is not the best idea from anyone who does it several times a day let alone week.I know some people are against cbj and that's understandable, but Hinomaru has had a long history of this problem from past reports. History repeats itself here. If a girl will give you bbbj she will most definitely be doing it for others. You may well be special but you're not the only one.
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Girls option - not mandated
[QUOTE=Traveler X]Price doesn't guarantee anything about STDs. I wouldn't count on all of them getting checked, because the best that would mean is she has STDs less often than not getting tested/treated periodically It's your risk to take but personally bbbj is not the best idea from anyone who does it several times a day let alone week.I know some people are against cbj and that's understandable, but Hinomaru has had a long history of this problem from past reports. History repeats itself here. If a girl will give you bbbj she will most definitely be doing it for others. You may well be special but you're not the only one.[/QUOTE]Guys,Make no mistake, I know of no place that mandates a STD check for the girls. Even some of the better known places on this board which have been written about at great length do not mandate STD checks. I have this on reliable information from several ladies in the biz. The smart girls are careful and have themselves tested frequently, but believe me it is their OPTION.Stay safe!
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Cheap Sex?
Went to Japan for a 7-day holiday. Didn't realize but my hotel in Tokyo was close to an area - Nishi Kawaguchi. At night, once you walk outside the subway exit on the adjacent streets, there are guys dressed in suits trying to sell you sex. They do not speak English, but with a couple of hand signals it's easy to figure out they're selling sex. The girls are located in apartments behind the subway station, but they're mostly Chinese girls. They start at 10,000 Y but I've managed to bargain it down to 8,500.
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Astil Oasis Spa - Shimbashi
this is >not< a p4p spot, but if you would like to relax before or after mongering, this is a good place to go:[url]http://www.ps-astil.co.jp/oasissauna/index.html[/url]directions: shimbashi station 新橋 is on the yamanote line 山手 around tokyo, two stations down from tokyo station. exit the karasumori side 烏森口 and look for yoshinoya on your left. if you walk down this street, you will soon see kfc on your left and on the opposite corner, a largepachinko/slot parlor named big dipper (1f, 2f). this is the building. go down the street and enter from the left side. take the elevator to 3f (women go to 5f).what to do. take off your shoes and put them in a locker. take the key and go to the counter. they will ask you how long you expect to stay at the front desk.the rates are here: [url]http://www.ps-astil.co.jp/oasissauna/price.html[/url]2 hours for 2,000 yen is not bad, if you can't choose. 1 hour speed course for 1, 500 yen if you are in a hurry. you pay first. they will then take your key and give you a new locker key. walk into the locker room and change into a robe and optional pants. here is a map of the layout: [url]http://www.ps-astil.co.jp/oasissauna/floor.html[/url]on the 3rd floor is a relaxation space with lounge chairs and tv. there is an open area for facials. the therapists look pretty good, but obviously, this is not a site for mongering (not that< kind of facial, you dork). there is also a restaurant here, but there are much better choices outside. if you take the stairs to 4f, you get to the actual spa.there is another set of lockers in this area. take off your robe, put it into the locker and take a second set of keys. you can get a small towel here.first thing you should do is wash yourself. if in doubt, do the good old "monkey see, monkey do". they provide disposable razors, shampoo, facial foam, body gel, and a rag for scrubbing yourself down.there is a cold spa (20c), a micro-bubble spa (40c), a regular jacuzzi (40c), a steam room (60c), a sauna (80c), stone chairs, and a foot wash. asukari (scrub down) is available by some middle aged women if you want to try it, for additional fees. remember, these baths are not for cleaning. they're just for soaking.before entering any of the baths, the convention is to wash yourself down with a tiny bucket full of water from the bath you are about to enter, several times. japanese also tend to cover their privates slightly with their towels. just follow what everyone else does.i usually don't like steam rooms, but theirs is excellent. i also like their micro-bubble spa and their cold spa.the entire place is very clean, and you should come out of it very relaxed and refreshed. one other thing. some spas have capsules, but this one doesn't. however, you could get away with sleeping on those couches on 3f, if you get there early enough. by 9:30pm, almost all of them were full.there are other services like the deluxe room (bigger chairs? ) and the oasis room for movies. besides some other men's relaxation options (for a fee), they also have shoe shines and dry cleaning/laundry.during the couple hours there on a monday night, i saw one white guy. there are signs in english so i suppose they do get foreign visitors.enjoy![size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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New member - some questions
Hello! I will be going to Tokyo (Shibuya) in a week and would like to try the local flavor. I have started my research here but have a question: I know Gaijin means "foreigner". Does that apply mostly to Caucasians? I am Asian but speak no Japanese. I've read that sometimes east asians are welcome even if they don't speak the language.With that, any gaijin (Asian, non. Japanese speaking) friendly place you can recommend?
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[QUOTE=Astig]Hello! I will be going to Tokyo (Shibuya) in a week and would like to try the local flavor. I have started my research here but have a question: I know Gaijin means "foreigner". Does that apply mostly to Caucasians? I am Asian but speak no Japanese. I've read that sometimes east asians are welcome even if they don't speak the language.With that, any gaijin (Asian, non. Japanese speaking) friendly place you can recommend?[/QUOTE]It sounds like you don't know much about Japanese history. Gaijin applies to all foreigners. The only difference is, if you dress like the locals, they may initially mistaken you for one, but once you open your mouth, you will pretty much be treated like any other gaijin.Eh - rtff - the entire forum is chock full of recommendations.
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Gaijin Girls
I dont know if anyone would be interested but I found this link elsewhere and I hear they are gaijin friendly.These Russian/Ukrainian/Polish girls are smoking hot and the prices are reasonable.[url]www.burondo.jp[/url]
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[QUOTE=Astig]Hello! I will be going to Tokyo (Shibuya) in a week and would like to try the local flavor. I have started my research here but have a question: I know Gaijin means "foreigner". Does that apply mostly to Caucasians? I am Asian but speak no Japanese. I've read that sometimes east asians are welcome even if they don't speak the language.With that, any gaijin (Asian, non. Japanese speaking) friendly place you can recommend?[/QUOTE]Gaijin is anyone not Japanese, so even though you are asian, you are still gaijin. Some gaijin friendly places listed in this forum are Hinomaru cabaret and Jan Jan (try a search to get details). You might also try Grimpur, though some Japanese knowledge might be required. If you want in-call at your hotel, there are various escort services you can try such as Club Boo, Asian Mysique, or Nasty Dolls. Lastly, you could just try going to Yoshiwara (take the Hibiya line to Minowa station, then ask any Taxi to take you to Yoshiwara), and if you walk around for a few minutes someone will wave you into a Gaijin friendly SoapLand...just make sure you have a full wallet, since prices can go up to 90k yen for 2 hours at those establishments.
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[QUOTE=Astig]I know Gaijin means "foreigner". Does that apply mostly to Caucasians? I am Asian but speak no Japanese. I've read that sometimes east asians are welcome even if they don't speak the language.[/QUOTE]As Irony Monger said, Gaijin means anyone not Japanese. However, from my experience, being Asian can help you a bit. In general if a shop says no Gaijin, then you're out of luck whether or not you're Asian. There might be a few places that let you in because you're an Asian, but I've yet to run into those kinds of places. However, if you can pretend to be Japanese, then obviously you're in. Unfortunately, this only applies to those that can speak Japanese. A place where being Asian has helped me is with girl selection. Most shops that will take foreigners have girls that will service and won't service Gaijin. I've been to a few shops where they will let me have any girl I want whether or not a foreigner is ok. Of course you might be able to get this treatment by simply getting to know the manager. I know there have been a few places which didn't let me have my choice of girls initially, but after they got to know me I had my pick of the litter. So, no, a gaijin is a gaijin whether or not they're Asian or White, this goes double for non-Japanese speakers. However being Asian does provide an advantage, but not as big as you would hope. Don't get your hopes up though, you're still going to run into a lot of rejection.
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[QUOTE=Zcorps]Don't get your hopes up though, you're still going to run into a lot of rejection.[/QUOTE]I would turn that on its head rather, and say don't let rejection ruin your hopes. You may have to be turned down a couple times, but if you are persistent you will eventually find a place to get serviced.
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SNHDNH - Gotanda 五反田
sekai ni hitotsu dake no hana 世界にひとつだけの花 is a pink salon in gotanda 五反田i've posted about this pink salon previously. thought i would post a recent update. it appears that management keeps good track of selections? so if you take a look at their rankings, here: [url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/ranking.php[/url]you can have a good sense of who the best service providers are.as far as pink salons go, this one is kind of expensive. even at non-peak hours, it's 6500 + 2000 (for selecting the girl). 1000 (if you are a repeat customer, you can use their card for a 1000 discount) = 7500, by no means cheap. however, the place is clean. the bathroom has medicine-y mouth rinse and they spray your hands with disinfectant before you go downstairs. unlike some chinese service providers, it's also extremely rare that i feel i didn't get my money's worth after being serviced here.two excellent providers are no. 80? misora and no. 111? kinoshita. i have picked no. 80 twice and i tried no. 111 today. both will do 69 and allow fingering. no. 111 doesn't dfk, but i think i remember no. 80 being ok with it. both provide gfe or near-gfe service, if you can call it that. my jgfs rarely treated me this good.[url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/profile.php?id=065[/url]no. 80. excellent choice if you have a bit of a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] complex?. yup the japanese have a special name for it. i don't particularly have it, but this one looks like an irresistible junior high school student. i feel like the neighborhood police will take me in cuffs ever time she sucks me. i like groping and dry-humping with her on my lap (only one of you can be naked. the guy walking around will check). nice body, good looks, excellent service. definitely the cute student-type you see walking around in short skirts that you just want to grab and.[url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/profile.php?id=060[/url]no. 111. this girl is taller and has tiny breasts, but i don't care. i'm an ass-man, and as far as 111 goes, hers is perfect (69 is a great way to enjoy the service). if you like the slim type, 111 is an excellent choice. i usually don't like to talk to the girl until after the deed is done (read my other post where at the sister store, i got booted almost without refund for being discovered as a foreigner), but this one kept chatting away, making me a little nervous. i was extra nervous this time as i saw a sign outside the store that said foreigners were not allowed. i think it's a new sign because i've never noticed it before. i kept groping and kissing. when she asked where i worked and i could tell she would not stop questioning me, i lied and told her i was half-japanese (learned my lesson from the sister store). well, that was enough get her excited and it quenched her curiosity. after that, her service was excellent. face isn't as cute as no. 80, but no. 111 has a great bod, if you prefer ass over breasts and if you like the slim type. service was gfe after i "explained" where i was from.both are worth repeating, if you can get in and stay in. you may need to be good enough to appear japanese (including answering in japanese) to get past the front desk.it's also nice to know that once a provider has accepted you, you can keep picking her for good service and safety (not getting kicked out for being a foreigner). however, there are so many nice ones in this shop that i tend to want to experience the variety.
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Thanks!
Thank you very much for the enlightenment guys! It looks like I will be going and leaving a very lonely man. I have, for the longest time, wanted to visit these soaplands. My trip in a weeks time is unplanned (accidental I would say) so here I am trying to get the infos straight. Trying to learn a little Japanese in a weeks time would be futile. Oh well. Ah! Any Japanese here I could tag along with?
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[QUOTE=Zcorps]...However, from my experience, being Asian can help you a bit. In general if a shop says no Gaijin, then you're out of luck whether or not you're Asian. There might be a few places that let you in because you're an Asian, but I've yet to run into those kinds of places. However, if you can pretend to be Japanese, then obviously you're in...[/QUOTE]I would agree with this assessment. (I'm a Caucasian of Mediterranean decent, who can hold a conversation in Japanese.)There are basically three different kinds of Gaijin:1) People who can't speak any Japanese. 2) People who don't look at all Japanese, but who can speak the language.3) People who could pass for Japanese, and who can speak the language. Outside of rolling with Japanese friends, one's access to service and quality girls to pick up gets better from 1-3. Of course, there are exceptions to this basic rule, but if you look Japanese and speak tight nihongo, very few people will give much of a shit whether you're Japanese or not. This comes from a couple of years of hanging out with guys from HK and Korea, who can basically pass for Japanese.
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Hm
[QUOTE=Tokyo Nampa King]I dont know if anyone would be interested but I found this link elsewhere and I hear they are gaijin friendly.These Russian/Ukrainian/Polish girls are smoking hot and the prices are reasonable.[/QUOTE]Where did you find the link? From whom did you hear they were gaijin friendly. Have you actually tried this place?ES
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Interesting
[QUOTE=Tokyo Nampa King]I dont know if anyone would be interested but I found this link elsewhere and I hear they are gaijin friendly.These Russian/Ukrainian/Polish girls are smoking hot and the prices are reasonable.[url]www.burondo.jp[/url][/QUOTE]According to the website, most of the girls are from Spain. There are also others from France, Switzerland, Portugal, Greece, Argentina, and the US. No Eastern European countries mentioned.Seems a little strange because the girls are smokin', but the prices seem pretty low. It's right across the street from Mark City in Shibuya, so you would think there would be a line of guys standing in the street waiting their turn.If anyone has any info on this place, please share.
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Non-pro
[QUOTE=Astig]Hello! I will be going to Tokyo (Shibuya) in a week and would like to try the local flavor. I have started my research here but have a question: I know Gaijin means "foreigner". Does that apply mostly to Caucasians? I am Asian but speak no Japanese. I've read that sometimes east asians are welcome even if they don't speak the language.With that, any gaijin (Asian, non. Japanese speaking) friendly place you can recommend?[/QUOTE]Try Gaspanic Shibuya first. Even a white or black guy can meet curious J-girls there. Girls would approach me there, apparently just because I was foreign, evil white devil or whatever.Disclaimer: I'm not saying that Gaspanic is cool. It's merely a place to meet girls, and see Japanese trying to act like American rappers, and hopefully drag something Japanese, female, and drunk over to the love hotel.Freebies aside, Milkybaby is on this gaijin's itinerary for the next trip. The menu options are apparently only limited by your courtesy, perversity and willingness to pay.
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Where did you find the link? From whom did you hear they were gaijin friendly. Have you actually tried this place?ES[/QUOTE]No Evan I havent used it. Actually I almost never PvP (except for the occasional pink salon BJ). Im only 30, good looking and have a pretty extensive black book. Just found it on another site and thought I would share the info. If you dont wanna try, then dont.
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1) encompasses many foreigners in Japan. I've met some who cannot speak much Japanese but know the drill with respect to body language, grooming, respect for social norms, remaining humble and sober and losing the attitude. The easiest way for these people to get into action is to go drinking with Japanese guys. Get those guys reasonably drunk while you stay reasonably sober. After awhile, these guys will be begging to take you to their favorite pink salon or other fuuzoku place.But, the most important thing is to lose the attitude. You are still an honored guest and if you get lousy service just suck it up and walk away. I read all sorts of stuff from self-righteous guys here who say we have to stand up for our rights and not let unscrupulous shops rip us off. That's not the way things work in Japan. In general, the Japanese people I know are very passive regarding "standing up for their rights" and they just suck it up. They don't go back, that's it.[QUOTE=Xslikx]I would agree with this assessment. (I'm a Caucasian of Mediterranean decent, who can hold a conversation in Japanese.)There are basically three different kinds of Gaijin:1) People who can't speak any Japanese. 2) People who don't look at all Japanese, but who can speak the language.3) People who could pass for Japanese, and who can speak the language. Outside of rolling with Japanese friends, one's access to service and quality girls to pick up gets better from 1-3. Of course, there are exceptions to this basic rule, but if you look Japanese and speak tight nihongo, very few people will give much of a shit whether you're Japanese or not. This comes from a couple of years of hanging out with guys from HK and Korea, who can basically pass for Japanese.[/QUOTE]
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Well, Mr. Nampa King, I hope your nampa is better than your P4P recommendations, because this one sucked. I went today, against my better judgment, and they don't accept foreigners. Though that would not be a surprise to a P4Per because there isn't a single place with foreign women that services foreign men, simply because the women don't want to. At all.By the way, I'd rather not open another can of worms here, but I fail to see why being "only 30, good looking and having a pretty extensive black book" would hold you back from P4P. Unless you refuse to buy your dates drinks/food, you're probably paying similar cash anyway. At least the sex industry is up front about it.[QUOTE=Tokyo Nampa King]No Evan I havent used it. Actually I almost never PvP (except for the occasional pink salon BJ). Im only 30, good looking and have a pretty extensive black book. Just found it on another site and thought I would share the info. If you dont wanna try, then dont.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Astig]Thank you very much for the enlightenment guys! It looks like I will be going and leaving a very lonely man. I have, for the longest time, wanted to visit these soaplands. My trip in a weeks time is unplanned (accidental I would say) so here I am trying to get the infos straight. Trying to learn a little Japanese in a weeks time would be futile. Oh well. Ah! Any Japanese here I could tag along with?[/QUOTE]Call Hono-bono. I did it by speakin English with a bit of Japanese numerals from the Frommers book i had with me.
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[QUOTE=Skins]Call Hono-bono. I did it by speakin English with a bit of Japanese numerals from the Frommers book i had with me.[/QUOTE]Well done! I speak pretty good Japanese but still balk at using the phone. But I have the same problem in English too!
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I had a fun time in Shibuya yesterday. I had 90 mins spare and I was passing through tokyo. I called up ND to see whether Emi or Tsubaki were available, but the mamasan said that the only person who was available was Juri. Hmm well I looked at the photos and they didn't look so great, but I figured what the hell I'll have the 45min and if she were cute enough I'd switch to a 90.They told me to meet outside the starbucks opposite the Hachiko exit. Well I could see this was going to be a problem but they said it would be fine, so there I went for a rendezvous at 7pm. Only prob is I'm Asian lookin. Korean heritage. So surprise surprise I got a phone call saying she couldn't find me. I had to buy a mc D's shake just so that she could spot me out of the crowd.At first glance she was maybe a 5/10 looks wise, small petite body which is what I had wanted. I could've wished she was prettier but oh well. I wanted to do a bit of because play, so she took me to this place a little far by foot, but we were off the meter so it was ok. I guess it took about 10 mins. The hotel was called INP or paplaza? She was starting to get a bit more talkative, and her English was pretty good. We went in and chose a room prices ranged from 7k to 14k. We chose out a school uni. I was in one of those moods. Ha ha ha. Cost for rental was 1000yen.Went up to the room which was a standard thing, took a shower. She was pretty good, attentive, gave me a nice 'rub down' in the shower. No BBBJ though, she'll only do CBJ. We went back into the b. Room and she got changed into the uni. Then gave me a CBJ which was pretty nice even though I don't like 'c'bjs generally. Hmm. Bit too much saliva if you ask me, kind of grossed me out sometimes. Personal thing perhaps. She 'said' she's 20, never went to highschool, lost her cherry at age 14, btw lives in yokohama.Went to the bed for several positions, I think my fave was prob doggy, I got into the swing of things. Perhaps just my ego speaking here, but I'd say she was getting a heavy pounding at least that was how she was reacting to it. Smacking her butt is fine and tbh you can smack pretty hard, she just smiles at you while her peaches glow red. V odd person who likes to be smacked imo.Anyway I liked how she reacted during sx. Not like some girls who either have that kind of fake moan, or just grit their teeth and grip on to the sheets. It felt genuine. Made me feel like da man or some such.So summary: GF type kissing is generally out. No a-levs. No BBBJ. Short girl, so heightwise could be a prob when mounting from the back. Has a tendency to lose stamina in her arms when going doggy and will eventually lie flat on her tummy. Oh I thought I'd just mention she has a scar on her chest from apparently 'heart surgery' when she was a baby.Smacking ok, uniform ok, CBJ, lots of protected sx, nice service imo.Looks: 6/10Attentiveness: 8/10Sx: 8/10Cost: 7/10 (35k for 90min, 1k for costume, room 7k)Will I choose her again?.- maybe if Emi is unavailable. Next though I want to try Kotomi. Anyone had any experience with her? Does she look like her photos? Or. Sagging breasts, scary skin?[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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no you're not
i've also been able/fortunate to build a decent stable. no you're not. not by a long shot. we are happy to see each other and don't cost much, if anything at all.[QUOTE=Hot Bot] By the way, I'd rather not open another can of worms here, but I fail to see why being "only 30, good looking and having a pretty extensive black book" would hold you back from P4P. Unless you refuse to buy your dates drinks/food, you're probably paying similar cash anyway. At least the sex industry is up front about it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hot Bot]By the way, I'd rather not open another can of worms here, but I fail to see why being "only 30, good looking and having a pretty extensive black book" would hold you back from P4P. Unless you refuse to buy your dates drinks/food, you're probably paying similar cash anyway. At least the sex industry is up front about it.[/QUOTE]That's what I used to think when I first came to Tokyo. But after being here for a while, I began to notice that there are quite a few Japanese couples (where the girl is a hottie) going to MOS Burger, Ten-ya, or a ramen joint. It would be pretty tough to spend more than 3,000 yen total in such a place.OTOH, if you bring all your dates to expensive bars or restaraunts in Aoyama or Azabu-Juban, I'm sure you can match and exceed p4p. I would bet the Nampa King doesn't do this...
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soapland etiquette? can I walk/say no?
I'm heading on my 4th trip to Japan soon and I've used the soaplands in Yoshiwara a couple times. Last time I was there was in 2005. IIRC, I paid 30000 or 35000 yen.I'm an American born Chinese so I'm obviously gaijin and can't speak Japanese. In the past, I've either walked around Yoshiwara after getting off from Minowa station or another one near there just asking if they accepted foreigners. Another time, I remember having a cabbie take me from the Metro station and he dropped me off at a soap that accepted foreigners.I know my selection is really limited. Each time, only a very small # of photos have been brought out (<10). Is it ok to decline and walk if the none of the girls appeal to me or the price is too high? I've so far never done that. I'd like to not go over 35, 000 per session. It seems I can get a better price if I go in the morning/day. But would that mean my selection is even more limited? I'm only interested in CFS w/CBJ (for safety's sake) and I do like the mat play a lot. I also like how service oriented the girls have been even if the ones I've been given haven't been hot.
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Totally OK
[QUOTE=Captain Pi]Is it ok to decline and walk if the none of the girls appeal to me or the price is too high?[/QUOTE]You are completely within your rights to walk away if the shop doesn't show you someone you are interested in for the price they are charging.Until you hand over the cash you are under no obligation. Keep your wallet in your pocket until you are sure you want to continue.ES
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Yoshiwara
Nothing to panic about, just a mild warning. There are some independent broker-type guys called Ponbiki standing around in Yoshiwara, you should steer clear of. These guys will walk around and try to pull in customers to soap shops and make a commission from the customer, so you get charged an extra fee. I haven't heard of these guys approaching foreigners, but they do exist, so wanted everyone to know about them.Going directly to the soap shops is the best bet. I sometimes visited the 60, 000 yen places, but my policy nowadays is like yours, 30, 000 yen or 35, 000 yen, and you can get 90 mins. To 110 mins. I have an okay shop that I go to, but they require that you are accompanied with a Japanese when you visit, so I can't suggest that one to you if you are solo.[QUOTE=Captain Pi]I'm heading on my 4th trip to Japan soon and I've used the soaplands in Yoshiwara a couple times. Last time I was there was in 2005. IIRC, I paid 30000 or 35000 yen.I'm an American born Chinese so I'm obviously gaijin and can't speak Japanese. In the past, I've either walked around Yoshiwara after getting off from Minowa station or another one near there just asking if they accepted foreigners. Another time, I remember having a cabbie take me from the Metro station and he dropped me off at a soap that accepted foreigners.I know my selection is really limited. Each time, only a very small # of photos have been brought out (<10). Is it ok to decline and walk if the none of the girls appeal to me or the price is too high? I've so far never done that. I'd like to not go over 35, 000 per session. It seems I can get a better price if I go in the morning/day. But would that mean my selection is even more limited? I'm only interested in CFS w/CBJ (for safety's sake) and I do like the mat play a lot. I also like how service oriented the girls have been even if the ones I've been given haven't been hot.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Yamato1]Nothing to panic about, just a mild warning. There are some independent broker-type guys called Ponbiki standing around in Yoshiwara, you should steer clear of. These guys will walk around and try to pull in customers to soap shops and make a commission from the customer, so you get charged an extra fee. I haven't heard of these guys approaching foreigners, but they do exist, so wanted everyone to know about them.Going directly to the soap shops is the best bet. [/QUOTE]Thanks.I remember a lot of touts in Kabukicho but my memory of what's in front of soaps in Yoshiwara is foggy.How can I tell the difference between a Ponbiki and a tout working for a soap? Ignore that guy and just go up to the door?Since I'm Chinese, I look totally Asian and it seems that everyone tries to speak Japanese to me even though I don't understand it.
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CBJ is sometimes tricky unless you communicate this well before the play starts. Sometimes she will start in very quickly, even during the wash down. If you come in very clean she may start in on it while you're getting undressed. Personally, I find this very nice but if you want it covered, just say "condom" and she should get the message.[QUOTE=Captain Pi]I'm heading on my 4th trip to Japan soon and I've used the soaplands in Yoshiwara a couple times. Last time I was there was in 2005. IIRC, I paid 30000 or 35000 yen.I'm an American born Chinese so I'm obviously gaijin and can't speak Japanese. In the past, I've either walked around Yoshiwara after getting off from Minowa station or another one near there just asking if they accepted foreigners. Another time, I remember having a cabbie take me from the Metro station and he dropped me off at a soap that accepted foreigners.I know my selection is really limited. Each time, only a very small # of photos have been brought out (<10). Is it ok to decline and walk if the none of the girls appeal to me or the price is too high? I've so far never done that. I'd like to not go over 35, 000 per session. It seems I can get a better price if I go in the morning/day. But would that mean my selection is even more limited? I'm only interested in CFS w/CBJ (for safety's sake) and I do like the mat play a lot. I also like how service oriented the girls have been even if the ones I've been given haven't been hot.[/QUOTE]
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A visit to Playgirls.
Hi guys-I'm an old time member he who just does not post much. I started coming to Japan in 2004, and due to my monthly visits, have become very familiar with the scene there. Anyways, just wanted to drop a line about Playgirls. The place has been written about countless times, but I thought I'd give an up to date account.So after arriving at the location via taxi, I immediately noticed that the building that they are in was somewhat run-down. I was courteously ushered into a waiting room and given a drink and some cigarettes. I don't smoke, so I just had an iced oolong tea. After waiting for a few minutes, I was presented with 6 photos of the available girls at the moment. Not 100% sure, but don't think it jibed with what was listed on the schedule page of their website.I ended up choosing Reo, who came down after a few minutes to guide me into our "room". Much older than her pics, she seemed to be near 30. When we arrived at the room, again I was disappointed by the run-down appearance and overall dumpiness. The place looked like it was from a 1980's movie, and everything had a sort of patina and aged look. Reo chatted with me in basic English and told me to start stripping.No BBBJ, nothing. (I had arrived immaculately clean and fresh out of the shower) After I undressed, I sat on the "Lecherous Chair" and had a very unispiring dick and body wash. After that we moved onto the mat, where she piled on the goopy stuff and began to play with me. Not a bad experience, and could tell that she was experienced in what she did. It was pretty fun, but when it got down to it, teasing, no touching her pussy, and BJ was covered. After 20 minutes of this, we started standard fucking, first asian squat, then missionary, then doggie. We moved over to this really tiny bed and I finished there.To be honest, I was so disappointed at my YEN 700, 000 experience, that I wanted to get the heck out of there asap. After laying for a while, and another half assed attempt at getting me hard, I just told her I wanted to leave and went downstairs, had another drink and left. Well, was it worth it? NO. No premium service, would have been much better served with some of the existing services offered by AM, CB, etc. I have no problem with paying $$$, but service has to be commensurate.
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You hit the nail on the head my friend. I rarely take a girl to dinner (unless fish and chips at a bar is considered dinner). If its a first date I usually take em to a bar where I know some love hotels are nearby (Kabukicho is a big favorite). Have a few drinks and say lets go for a walk, which leads us to the destination.If its not a first date and we are regular f-buddies, then just hit the convenie for a some beer/wine/shochu then off to the love hotel. Some of my older flings (women in their late 30s) will usually even split the love hotel fee. Ive gotten some nice gifts from my older ladies, they like to spoil me. One took me on a helicopter tour of Tokyo for my b-day. But like the man said, I do enjoy a pink salon now and again when I cant be bothered to entertain someone. Its a nice way to relax for less than the cost of a love hotel. [QUOTE=Nakameguro97]That's what I used to think when I first came to Tokyo. But after being here for a while, I began to notice that there are quite a few Japanese couples (where the girl is a hottie) going to MOS Burger, Ten-ya, or a ramen joint. It would be pretty tough to spend more than 3,000 yen total in such a place.OTOH, if you bring all your dates to expensive bars or restaraunts in Aoyama or Azabu-Juban, I'm sure you can match and exceed p4p. I would bet the Nampa King doesn't do this...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hot Bot]By the way, I'd rather not open another can of worms here, but I fail to see why being "only 30, good looking and having a pretty extensive black book" would hold you back from P4P. Unless you refuse to buy your dates drinks/food, you're probably paying similar cash anyway. At least the sex industry is up front about it.[/QUOTE]I rarely spend more than 10,000 on a date (including love hotel) so unless you know a place where you can score with sexy 22-27 year old Japanese girls (the average age/type of the women I take out) for that price than let me know. I certainly havent seen it. Maybe when I am like 45 and balding and I want a taste of that young flavor again that I cant get on my own anymore than I will consider kicking out some of the money many of you guys pay. Until that day comes though, I like the game Im running. And yes the sex industry is upfront, but the girl has you on a timer..is only there because you are paying, and the sex is usually missing something for me compared to when I use only my charms (and a few drinks) getting a girl to the love hotel. Not looking down on it, just for me right now the cost/benefit isnt there. In the future that may change.
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[QUOTE=Tomato]Hi guys-To be honest, I was so disappointed at my YEN 700, 000 experience, ...Well, was it worth it? NO. No premium service, would have been much better served with some of the existing services offered by AM, CB, etc. I have no problem with paying $$$, but service has to be commensurate.[/QUOTE]No doubt is was only 70,000 but I sympathize in that it probably felt like a huge waste of cash.I have noticed more than a few soaps seem to be stuck in 80s-90s mode, with no renovations or upgrades. Much better to order a high class DH to a nice hotel room!
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Re: ND in Shibuya
I missed something. What/where is ND?Thank you[QUOTE=Yuffei]I had a fun time in Shibuya yesterday. I had 90 mins spare and I was passing through tokyo. I called up ND to see whether Emi or Tsubaki were available, but the mamasan said that the only person who was available was Juri. Hmm well I looked at the photos and they didn't look so great, but I figured what the hell I'll have the 45min and if she were cute enough I'd switch to a 90.
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Nippori -Korean Este
I think I reported ont that one already.[url]http://www.este-feel.com/top.html[/url]1mn from Nishi-Nippori station, very easy to find. Photos are real but heavily photoshopped (like on the similar sites). Girl looks are 4, 5 /10 at best. I went 3 times.1st time I had a 2*35mn course (13, 000 yens if I remember well) with 2 different girls. Both massage + CBJ + FS.One of the girls (Yumi) seemed to like me a lot, (I was her first gaijin so she was pretty excited) so I came back another time just spend time with her.That was very enjoyable indeed and very GFE with her.3rd time I came, Yumi wasnt there, was serviced by Bani. She was chubby and not great looking and not very into it. I had difficulties to get a hard-on. Though we finally got to FS, but then she looked like a robot, and not liking it at all. That deflated my willie so I had to finish with HJ. Not a likeable experience. But for the 60mn 7, 500 (new discount) course, the bad quality of the service may have been on purpose? 1 hit / 1 miss. I don't think I'll go there anymore. And I don't think I'll try this kind of place if I don't feel that day like an animal ready to f*ck anything anyway. I've had similar problems lately alas. But for other people, its really a conveniently located, cheap and rather clean place to FS with a massage.For japanese readers, [url]www.fuzoku. Jp[/url] has plenty of DH & Este ads all over Japan. Prices in Nippori are overall cheap and the joints are 1mn from the JR or Chiyoda station which make it very convenient (for example vs Shibuya where love hotels are far from the Station)
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Sexy curvy japanese girl - w4m - 24 (tokyo)
This is a late post but this is my first opportunity to write about my experience. Decided to set up an appt after reading the ad. We agreed to meet outside of Shibuya Station. Once she arrived we walked up the hill to a love motel. Once inside the room she suggested that we both get undressed and ensured me that we had plenty of time. She started off with a back rub (which actually was pretty good) before rolling me over and starting a HJ. In the back of my mind I'm thinking when is she going to start the BJ and I kept telling her to stop each time I was about to reach my peak. I finally decided to just go ahead and let go and then she got up and led me to the shower. After I was cleaned up I noticed that she started putting her clothes back on and I asked if that was it. She said that all she gave was HJ's and apologized for the misunderstanding. After going back reading her post it does state "sensual massage". Other than that she was very friendly and encouraged me to touch her breast (which are a perky size D as advertised). I would rate her as a 7 and my overall experience as a 5, mostly because I went in expecting more than a HJ. The total damage was 20K. I would repeat only if I had an extra 20K to burn a HJ, which would is more than likely never when FS is available for less than 10K.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Herpes]I think I reported ont that one already.[url]http://www.este-feel.com/top.html[/url][/QUOTE]How much Japanese language skill do you need for this place?
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Feel
[QUOTE=Irony Monger]How much Japanese language skill do you need for this place?[/QUOTE]When you're inside none at all. The staff is korean and friendly. But on the site there is no address. You are supposed to phone them for directions. I don't have the exact address but going out from the JR station, look for the Chiyoda station exit (near the elevated highway). You cross the street towards a pachinko parlour and enter a small street going along the yamanote line. You go along it, there is another side street parallel to the main avenue, you continue forward its the building making the corner between that street and the street going along the Yamanote. Its and old building. Its on the 4th floor.
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Google street view links?
It would be very helpfull if a picture/link of the place thru google map is attached to some of the reports. This may not be the right place but just an example.[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Nishinippori+Station,+Japan&sll=36.120128,138.208008&sspn=8.745353,28.037109&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=Fac6IQIdA6xUCA&split=0&hq=&hnear=Nishinippori+Station,+Japan&ll=35.732228,139.768327&spn=0,359.996567&z=19&lci=transit&layer=c&cbll=35.732173,139.76825&panoid=cseFaWKNQZ8mPHboZ_k_8Q&cbp=12,95.09,,0,5.7[/url]
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Enough to call them from the station to get directions on how to get there. These places that offer FS usually work this way. All of the ones in Otsuka and Sugamo do, at least.[QUOTE=Irony Monger]How much Japanese language skill do you need for this place?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jay Bird]Dear friends[url]http://www.bestworldescorts.com/gallery.php[/url]Please check the attached link. As I'm a big fan of girls with large breasts I'd like tot try May. Anyone having any experience with "Beauty and Goddes"?Recommendations for other places with large breast girls are welcomed. Japanese or foreign girls, doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]Meiji has already commented but I'd like to add that when you see photos you should look carefully at the backgrounds. All the photos are professionally shot, which might be hard to notice if you aren't familiar with photography. But it is obvious that none of those photos look like they have anything to do with Japan and they are all completely different. Most likely they are stolen from porn sites.If you look at Grimpeur the photos all have a similar look, and the girls are often wearing the same costumes.
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[QUOTE=Herpes]When you're inside none at all. The staff is korean and friendly. But on the site there is no address. You are supposed to phone them for directions. I don't have the exact address but going out from the JR station, look for the Chiyoda station exit (near the elevated highway). You cross the street towards a pachinko parlour and enter a small street going along the yamanote line. You go along it, there is another side street parallel to the main avenue, you continue forward its the building making the corner between that street and the street going along the Yamanote. Its and old building. Its on the 4th floor.[/QUOTE]Any chance you can use google maps and street view to find the actual location and post it? Hopefully you will recognize the streets. If you find the building, I'll be able to find my way to the 4th floor on my next trip :-).
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[QUOTE=Wagenbach]I visited Asian Relax (the Thai massage place in Shinjuku with HJ endings) and after I was done the girl gave me a small piece of paper with the company's phone numbers/address etc on it. I didn't think anything of it until I got home when I noticed she had also written her name and what seem to me to be her personal mobile phone number and email on it.I've been there enough times to know this is not standard practise. Has this happened to anyone else? I have no idea what the intended purpose of that information she gave me is. Does she want to go out with me? Provide "extra" services outside of her working hours somewhere else for more money? Or does she just expect me to ask her when she's going to be working if I want to see her specifically again?[/QUOTE]I just returned from Asian Relax. First time there and received a paper with email and mobile. I'll follow up on it and see where it might lead me. I speak a bit of Thai and so there was good chemistry. The massage was amazingly refreshing but the release was only so-so. At one point I was asked not to touch her which was a bit annoying. Unlikely to be a repeat customer but will see if I can draw her out.
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Hi guys! Next week I stay in Tokyo, Roppongi.Do you know a pink salon, also not FS, in Roppongi available for gaijin? Thank You!
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Korean Massage Este - Feel
[QUOTE=Irony Monger]Any chance you can use google maps and street view to find the actual location and post it? Hopefully you will recognize the streets. If you find the building, I'll be able to find my way to the 4th floor on my next trip :-).[/QUOTE][url]http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=fr&geocode=&q=nishi-nippori&sll=35.733421,139.767114&sspn=0.001461,0.002363&ie=UTF8&radius=0.07&filter=0&rq=1&ev=zi&hq=nishi-nippori&hnear=&ll=35.733186,139.767326&spn=0.001461,0.002363&z=19[/url]The building under the number '36' on the map. There is no sign inside or outside. 4th floor (401/403)
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Need some help with paying for the pm function here
. Ok I know its cheap and I HAVE the money, just don't really have means of transferring it electronically (no credit card due to unfortunate circumstances) and hence no paypal account, the only thing I can do is bank transfer and I haven't seen that option around here. So. Since I live in tokyo I have a favor to askCan I meet someone here (in Tokyo) and just give you the 2000 yen in cash and you just do the gift subscription thing to support the forum and activate the pm function? That would help me out a lot, thanks!
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[QUOTE=Herpes][url]http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=fr&geocode=&q=nishi-nippori&sll=35.733421,139.767114&sspn=0.001461,0.002363&ie=UTF8&radius=0.07&filter=0&rq=1&ev=zi&hq=nishi-nippori&hnear=&ll=35.733186,139.767326&spn=0.001461,0.002363&z=19[/url]The building under the number '36' on the map. There is no sign inside or outside. 4th floor (401/403)[/QUOTE]Thanks! I'll be sure to post my report, assuming I successfully find the place and get in.
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Wow
[QUOTE=Tokyo Nampa King]I rarely spend more than 10,000 on a date (including love hotel) so unless you know a place where you can score with sexy 22-27 year old Japanese girls (the average age/type of the women I take out) for that price than let me know. I certainly havent seen it. Maybe when I am like 45 and balding and I want a taste of that young flavor again that I cant get on my own anymore than I will consider kicking out some of the money many of you guys pay. Until that day comes though, I like the game Im running. And yes the sex industry is upfront, but the girl has you on a timer..is only there because you are paying, and the sex is usually missing something for me compared to when I use only my charms (and a few drinks) getting a girl to the love hotel. Not looking down on it, just for me right now the cost/benefit isnt there. In the future that may change.[/QUOTE]You're well into yourself, aren't you Chief? Do us a favor and save the overconfidence for the girls you claim to date. In these forums it's mostly just annoying and certainly doesn't add value.ES
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Recent Grimpeur Experience
Hello friends,First time for me here. I had been to Grimpeur a couple of days ago. Thanks to the guidance I found in this site. I was asked to choose from about 4 pictures. All the pictures did look pretty hot, difficult to choose for a greedy mind like mine. I chose anna. The picture looked a lot prettier than the real one. Anyways I was asked to check in and wait in the nearby hotel, which I did. The girl arrived in the room. She looked too young compared to the one shown in the picture earlier, frankly I am not too fond of gakusei type girls. She had this wierd looking timer clock which she had set to 45 mins as soon as she got into my room. We both got undressed and took shower together and later hopped into the bed. The rest of the experience was not all that exciting. She just seemed to be disinterested from there on. Certainly she was excited whenever the clock beeped after lapse of every 15 minutes. Was a big turn off for me eventually. I don't like to be in company of ladies who don't like what they do. As soon as I noticed it I decided to just have a casual conversation with her for the rest of the time left over. Left the place annoyed and lost a bit. All that I could remember is looking at her back for most of the 45 minutes time. She was a bit too nervous and shy, certainly not my type.Overall damage: 11000 + 2500 = 13500Girl (Anna): 4/10Experience: 2/10Will I go there again? : not in near futurewould appreciate all your advise in case I unknowingly missed something during my experience above. Maybe I chose the wrong one?
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Well, it depends on how you look at it.In general, Grimpeur is a crap shoot. You might get a good provider, but usually, at the prices that they charge, I don't go in with high expectations. You may or may not get FS. You may or may not get enthusiastic service. Most likely, you will not get "professional" service (positive and negative connotations). If you get lucky and pick a good provider, she may not stay there long enough for you to use her as a LT provider.In general, if you are looking for better or more consistent/predictable service, you need to go elsewhere and pay more.In other words, you are expecting too much for what you pay at Grimpeur.[QUOTE=Bratty]Hello friends,First time for me here. I had been to Grimpeur a couple of days ago. Thanks to the guidance I found in this site. I was asked to choose from about 4 pictures. All the pictures did look pretty hot, difficult to choose for a greedy mind like mine. I chose anna. The picture looked a lot prettier than the real one. Anyways I was asked to check in and wait in the nearby hotel, which I did. The girl arrived in the room. She looked too young compared to the one shown in the picture earlier, frankly I am not too fond of gakusei type girls. She had this wierd looking timer clock which she had set to 45 mins as soon as she got into my room. We both got undressed and took shower together and later hopped into the bed. The rest of the experience was not all that exciting. She just seemed to be disinterested from there on. Certainly she was excited whenever the clock beeped after lapse of every 15 minutes. Was a big turn off for me eventually. I don't like to be in company of ladies who don't like what they do. As soon as I noticed it I decided to just have a casual conversation with her for the rest of the time left over. Left the place annoyed and lost a bit. All that I could remember is looking at her back for most of the 45 minutes time. She was a bit too nervous and shy, certainly not my type.Overall damage: 11000 + 2500 = 13500Girl (Anna): 4/10Experience: 2/10Will I go there again? : not in near futurewould appreciate all your advise in case I unknowingly missed something during my experience above. Maybe I chose the wrong one?[/QUOTE]
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Cheap bigger Clothing for men...
So I read lots of posts in the nampa section and I saw peloton and sojouner mention that they get their clothes for cheap in shibuya and that they have bigger sizes, I'm bigger than all the stuff they have in the gap and sakazen which has bigger clothing is pretty expensive, so I was wondering if anyone else here knows what soujourner and peloton were tlaking about, sicne they didn't mention the name of the store. Just that there was a store in Shibuya where they get all their clothing. I would like to know what it is.Thanks
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I agree with this assessment. It really depends on the lady you get. Of the 20 or so times I've gone to Grimpeur and L/S (previous incarnation when it was a standard health) I think I've had maybe 2 times where the experience was memorable, maybe about 1/2 the time was OK and the rest of the times were very mediocre to bad, but not so bad as a Chinese esute. By "bad" I mean not up to expectations of a licensed health.I've been drawn there because I know one tencho pretty well and I can always be guaranteed of getting a real Japanese lady. The rates are OK, the time is short but the service is very spotty. The ladies are clearly there to get quick pocket money to buy brand-named goods and to finance their high spending lifestyles. I don't think any of them are there as a career, if you get my drift.The best service with a Japanese lady is at a soap but you will pay a lot more for it.[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Well, it depends on how you look at it.In general, Grimpeur is a crap shoot. You might get a good provider, but usually, at the prices that they charge, I don't go in with high expectations. You may or may not get FS. You may or may not get enthusiastic service. Most likely, you will not get "professional" service (positive and negative connotations). If you get lucky and pick a good provider, she may not stay there long enough for you to use her as a LT provider.In general, if you are looking for better or more consistent/predictable service, you need to go elsewhere and pay more.In other words, you are expecting too much for what you pay at Grimpeur.[/QUOTE]with
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Ronin,Sorry I ve never been there.Ask your Japanese friend to call on your behalf if you go.BJ[QUOTE=Ronin7788]Can you give me directions? I know they are in Otsuka and I shall call them from the station but would prefer to have a little bit direction before. I can handle basic japanese but sometimes the directions given over the phone are a bit difficult to understand.Thanks for the help.BTW; I suppose they are GF as busty-p.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Homer69]...The best service with a Japanese lady is at a soap but you will pay a lot more for it....[/QUOTE]Homer69 is right with the general, "short answer".If you are interested in the "long answer", here it is. There is a ton of fuzoku/adult services in the Tokyo area and a huge variety. Now, I define "quality of service" as feeling satisfied and not feeling ripped off by the provider. If you are new to Tokyo, you probably need to adjust your expectations to fit the kinds of services provided here. Like it or not, your racial background and Japanese ability, in addition to your manners and whether or not you have Japanese friends, will all factor into accessibility and often even into quality of service.If you take this broad point of view, there are quite a lot of quality options.1. Chinese Esute2. Korean DH3. Japanese DH4. Pink Salon5. Massage with Finish6. Legit Massage7. Japanese Herusu8. Korean Herusu9. Japanese Soap10.Kawasaki Booths11.Nampa12. ... many more that I don't have experience with - too many to listIn general, I agree with Homer69 - Chinese Esute is pretty low on the scale of good service, but for the low price paid, it's sometimes worth it if you find a decent one in say, Takadanobaba.I personally prefer Options 4. and 5. for value (look at my previous posts for suggestions) where although not cheap (but cheaper than Grimpeur), there is good management and consistent service. Places where you feel like you got your money's worth.Note that even for soap, there is a huge range of prices/quality. There are cheap soaps, but in general, the quality of women is lower (although the quality of service many not be much lower). It all depends on how much money you want to spend and what your expectations are.If you read this forum carefully, you will find many of these places described in detail. With help from the forum and some experience, you can find the providers that fit your needs.
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[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Homer69 is right with the general, "short answer".If you are interested in the "long answer", here it is. There is a ton of fuzoku/adult services in the Tokyo area and a huge variety. Now, I define "quality of service" as feeling satisfied and not feeling ripped off by the provider. If you are new to Tokyo, you probably need to adjust your expectations to fit the kinds of services provided here. Like it or not, your racial background and Japanese ability, in addition to your manners and whether or not you have Japanese friends, will all factor into accessibility and often even into quality of service.If you take this broad point of view, there are quite a lot of quality options.1. Chinese Esute2. Korean DH3. Japanese DH4. Pink Salon5. Massage with Finish6. Legit Massage7. Japanese Herusu8. Korean Herusu9. Japanese Soap10.Kawasaki Booths11.Nampa12. ... many more that I don't have experience with - too many to listIn general, I agree with Homer69 - Chinese Esute is pretty low on the scale of good service, but for the low price paid, it's sometimes worth it if you find a decent one in say, Takadanobaba.I personally prefer Options 4. and 5. for value (look at my previous posts for suggestions) where although not cheap (but cheaper than Grimpeur), there is good management and consistent service. Places where you feel like you got your money's worth.Note that even for soap, there is a huge range of prices/quality. There are cheap soaps, but in general, the quality of women is lower (although the quality of service many not be much lower). It all depends on how much money you want to spend and what your expectations are.If you read this forum carefully, you will find many of these places described in detail. With help from the forum and some experience, you can find the providers that fit your needs.[/QUOTE]With regards to Soap, I agree that price and quality are highly variable.For those on a budget, there are 2 well known soaps in Ueno, namely New York New York and Champs, under same management, who accept non japanese speaking gaijins. Price is ridiculously low, 9200 Y. But the quality of the women is likely to be very, very low... however, service is ususally excellent... Have been there perhaps 10 times, have been disappointed by the service only once; Since they know my face, I can ask, using body language, for a "young and busty",and ususally get one even if it means waiting a little. Not to say that there are model type though, but again, for this price and this quality of service, I don't mind.
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So, UCLA or GRIMPEUR?What's the best?Thank You!
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Hi, in Grimpeur's there is 3 course:Image courseErogenous Health CourseMa power courseWhat is the different?Thank You
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Argh--just lost a report. Otokonorakuen, Chinese FS esute in Takadanobaba
Argh, just lost a long report. Here's the long and the short of it: Went to Takadanobaba to try Otokonorakuen again. Website is www.otokonorakuen-s. Com. Japanese-speaking ability is a must, as the papa-san recommends calling 30 min. In advance to make a reservation. He says some days there are no customers, some days lots of customers, even with the crappy rain tonight.Take a left out of the Waseda exit of Takadanobaba JR station. Walk 5-10 min. Until there is a Quattro pachinko palace on your left. There should be a traffic light in front of the pachinko palace. Cross the street at the light, there should be a Morioka reimen joint there. To its right, as you stand on the street, there should be another ramen joint. In between the two ramen joints is a set of stairs going up, with a sign above them in Japanese for "Yuri". Go up the stairs, and knock on the locked door on the right. When I went, the papa-san seemed to be finishing up with one of the girls, and he embarrassedly asked me to "call 30 min. Ahead next time."The papa-san shows you some pictures (3 girls for me). You choose, and then the papa-san draws you a map. You go back out, down the stairs, across the street, and into one of the alleys leading away from the main street. The apartments constantly change, it must be some kind of security against getting busted by LE. I had some trouble finding the right exact apartment, but the papa-san came out in response to my call, and he guided me to the exact apartment.Aiko is a 6 in the looks department, but I got a 9 in service. She is an eager beaver (I guess pun intended), and she is eager to please. She gave me the best massage I have ever gotten in a Chinese FS esute-- she has very strong hands. She seemed to enjoy it when we got down to the dirty deed, and I had a good time. We had a good conversation afterwards, and she gave me another massage- really relaxing. She said she just started in the shop 3 days ago, and only came from China 4-5 months ago.All in all, you can't beat it for the price, even with the raised prices-- now 9, 000 yen for 60 min. FS is of course included. I think the papa-san tells the girls to massage you once the FS is done, too. The papa-san is very talkative, I think it would probably pay to make friends with him if you plan on using these kinds of options regularly-- he seems like a decent sort.Looks: 6Service: 9price: 9,000 yen for 60 min. Call 30 min. in advance-- Japanese speaking ability a must. ymmv, as always.Would I repeat: yes.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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I never recommend NYNY or Champs anymore to anyone. I've done this for co-workers and most of them can't deal with getting serviced by a 40-something or 50-something year old who reminds them of their mother or aunt. "Young and busty" could also mean young=35, busty=busty but you may have to deal with a beer gut and thunder thighs that many younger guys are just not ready for. If you want "young, busty and not chubby" then it's going to be a huge challenge to get all three at these places. Add "cute" or "attractive" to this mix and you are just not going to get it. Many years ago, a tout in the neighborhood tried to steer me away to a Chinese esute. I asked him how old, 30-something? He said, many are older. How much older? He said as old as 60. I said 60? He said, unfortunately yes. I have not seen any that were 60 but there are quite a few in their 50s there. Nothing wrong with a lady in her 50s if that's OK with you but for some guys, it's just not an enjoyable experience.Service is usually good but these places are not for most guys who prefer a younger, more fit and more attractive lady.[QUOTE=Dreams]With regards to Soap, I agree that price and quality are highly variable.For those on a budget, there are 2 well known soaps in Ueno, namely New York New York and Champs, under same management, who accept non japanese speaking gaijins. Price is ridiculously low, 9200 Y. But the quality of the women is likely to be very, very low... however, service is ususally excellent... Have been there perhaps 10 times, have been disappointed by the service only once; Since they know my face, I can ask, using body language, for a "young and busty",and ususally get one even if it means waiting a little. Not to say that there are model type though, but again, for this price and this quality of service, I don't mind.[/QUOTE]
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Recon report-- Shibuya love hotel hill and "fashion health alley"
Just thought I'd do a little research and report back on Shibuya's love hotel hill, in Dougenzaka.Was in the neighborhood a few nights ago, and the place is hopping-- if you walk up to the left of the 109 building, and then take a right before the big yellow neon sign for "tonkotsu ramen", you go up the alley. There are lots of sex-related establishments, and a convenience store directly in front of you. To the right is an alley and lots of love hotels, to the left of the convenience store is what I call, "fashion health alley." There are about 7 or 8 "fashion health" establishments here. (To those of you who have been to Grimpeur, you don't need my directions.)I just wanted to test the waters and see how "gaijin-friendly" the other establishments were, so I walked down the alley. The fashion health establishments are very obvious, with pink and purple lighting behind doorways with split curtains. Some of the touts ignored me, some of them immediately closed their doors at the sight of a gaijin. But some of the touts seemed to be in a talkative mood-- I got to talking with them, and they were friendly enough to tell me it was a busy night. I asked them if they would take a gaijin, and they replied that as long as the gaijin could speak as much as I could, it would be fine-- the girl just had to be able to tell me the rules, and what she could not do. I talked to 4-5 of the fashion health reception people, and they all gave me the same line.For some reason, apparently to do with what shady characters run the neighborhood, they have lots of Japanese girls in the fashion healths in the alley, but no Korean girls. There are some Chinese girls working in the "hoteheru" down the alley and around the corner, on the left. On a Friday night, the love hotels here are doing a brisk business, with "couples" obviously on "dates" going to and fro into the hotels.Around midnight on a Friday or Saturday night, there are also Chinese "masaji girls" at the "tonkotsu ramen" corner, who will upsell you to full service for an exorbitant 40, 000 yen or so (don't ask me how I found this out.) Some of them, however, it is worth noting, are extremely hot.Hope this recon helps somebody out. Hopefully in the future there will be recon reports on Ueno or Uguisudani, or some other places.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Politely disagree...
[QUOTE=Homer69]I never recommend NYNY or Champs anymore to anyone. I've done this for co-workers and most of them can't deal with getting serviced by a 40-something or 50-something year old who reminds them of their mother or aunt. "Young and busty" could also mean young=35, busty=busty but you may have to deal with a beer gut and thunder thighs that many younger guys are just not ready for. If you want "young, busty and not chubby" then it's going to be a huge challenge to get all three at these places. Add "cute" or "attractive" to this mix and you are just not going to get it. Many years ago, a tout in the neighborhood tried to steer me away to a Chinese esute. I asked him how old, 30-something? He said, many are older. How much older? He said as old as 60. I said 60? He said, unfortunately yes. I have not seen any that were 60 but there are quite a few in their 50s there. Nothing wrong with a lady in her 50s if that's OK with you but for some guys, it's just not an enjoyable experience.Service is usually good but these places are not for most guys who prefer a younger, more fit and more attractive lady.[/QUOTE]...at least with you sentence " never recommend...". Sure enough, I will not recommend it to any "young" guy who want a fit, yound and attractive girl. , And I will always mention the "risks" taken by going there. But, for somebody on a budget, who wants to know what the soapie routine is, and wants a japanese girl (or woman, should I say...),and does not mind too much the look, it's a bargain. BTW, my last "young and busty" was both, that is less than 25, and nice d cups. Not a beauty otherwise, but surely an excellent deal for 9200 Yens. And after that I booked the legendary Manami ( then at AM) on the morning of my departure, just to keep great memories...BTW, what do you recommend to your young friends who do not speak a word of Japanese, and wants a to experiment a soap? I am not young anymore, but may still be interested...
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I guess you haven't been there for awhile. With the commodity bubble a few years ago and the spike in the price of heating oil they raised the price to 9800. I like the place but I'm an old guy. My young co-workers are not into getting a bath from their mother. That's how one characterized the experience after he tried it on my advice. So, I gave up recommending it.I don't recommend these places to anyone. They are better off going to a Chinese esute, getting FS and questionable service and a true bargain in the process. If they are on a budget I send them to JanJan or other pink salons. Most of them want either FS or BBBJCIM, neither of which is available at NYNY or Champs. Occasionally you can get CIM but there are only a few that do it and you have to ask for it or you'll usually get a hand finish. Some of them won't even do BJ, covered or BB, just a straight hand finish. But, they will usually give you a rim job or other nice thing to make up for it. You have to ask before you go in with them.[QUOTE=Dreams]...at least with you sentence " never recommend...". Sure enough, I will not recommend it to any "young" guy who want a fit, yound and attractive girl. , And I will always mention the "risks" taken by going there. But, for somebody on a budget, who wants to know what the soapie routine is, and wants a japanese girl (or woman, should I say...),and does not mind too much the look, it's a bargain. BTW, my last "young and busty" was both, that is less than 25, and nice d cups. Not a beauty otherwise, but surely an excellent deal for 9200 Yens. And after that I booked the legendary Manami ( then at AM) on the morning of my departure, just to keep great memories...BTW, what do you recommend to your young friends who do not speak a word of Japanese, and wants a to experiment a soap? I am not young anymore, but may still be interested...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Serpaz]So, UCLA or GRIMPEUR?What's the best?Thank You![/QUOTE]Since you have mentioned in the past that you don't speak Japanese, Grimpeur is out for you. The first question they will ask you is if you can speak Japanese.
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[QUOTE=Homer69]I guess you haven't been there for awhile. With the commodity bubble a few years ago and the spike in the price of heating oil they raised the price to 9800. I like the place but I'm an old guy. My young co-workers are not into getting a bath from their mother. That's how one characterized the experience after he tried it on my advice. So, I gave up recommending it.I don't recommend these places to anyone. They are better off going to a Chinese esute, getting FS and questionable service and a true bargain in the process. If they are on a budget I send them to JanJan or other pink salons. Most of them want either FS or BBBJCIM, neither of which is available at NYNY or Champs. Occasionally you can get CIM but there are only a few that do it and you have to ask for it or you'll usually get a hand finish. Some of them won't even do BJ, covered or BB, just a straight hand finish. But, they will usually give you a rim job or other nice thing to make up for it. You have to ask before you go in with them.[/QUOTE]You are correct, I have not been there since about 18 months.And your description of what can happen, and possibly can NOT happen, is also correct.At the end, our respective posts do present what the real situation is, pros and cons, and whoever reads it can decide for himself if this for him or not. Anyway, thanks for all you interesting contributions to the forum, it is useful to the occasional, albeit regular, visitors like me.
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Top 10 reasons Yoshiwara is the best option
10) GIRLS ARE ALL JAPANESE. Since we're in Japan here, I'm guessing alot of people get an extra thrill when it's an actual Japanese girl and not a Korean or Chinese or korean or thai.9) GIRLS ARE AROUND AN 8 ON A SCALE OF 1-10. Not like the 4's at JanJan.8) CALL RATE IS GOOD. I don't know if it's the economy or whatever but I get around a 50% rate lately. Nicer than the 10% at Tobita this summer.7) THE SERVICE. Recently, I was offered a ride back to Minowa Station by the staff. Nice of them, huh? Waiting rooms are nice. Flat screen tv's and leather couches rock.6) YOSHIWARA IS 100% FULL SERVICE. Why go somewhere you're not sure?5) ENERGY/ENTHUSIASM. 3 out of the last 5 trips I got 2 pops in 70 minute courses. They hopped on and wanted more. Didn't know I had it in me.4) NO ATTITUDE. Girls have always been friendly and kind of girlfriend like. Never sensed that one of them wasn't into me or was going at it half assed.3) NIHONGO. Not everyone cares about this but I'm trying to learn the language. Great conversation practice. Hard to hear the pigs at JanJan with the awful music blaring.2) NO NIGERIAN TOUTS. None that I've seen, anyway. Ever been followed by one in Kabukicho? It really sucks.1) MAT PLAY. If you haven't done it, you haven't lived.
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Ikebukuro
[QUOTE=Xslikx] Originally Posted by SerpazSo, UCLA or GRIMPEUR?What's the best?Thank You! Since you have mentioned in the past that you don't speak Japanese, Grimpeur is out for you. The first question they will ask you is if you can speak Japanese. [/QUOTE]I can confirm that about Grimpeur that you need to speak, it is not just point and grunt. If you do not speak Japanese then just go to UCLA. They will do their best to accomodate you with point and choose. The one in Ikebukuro is across from the big Yamada Liquor store on the Parco side of station. Just ask anyone for the liquor store location (even koban) and then go in and buy a beer and come out and you are looking at UCLA on 3rd floor. right next to it is a non gaigin place with a sign waving guy out front. Don't mix the 2 up. Also in Ikebukuro there is a pink salon called Emanuelle that I got waved into while walking by, you did need to speak nihongo. I did not have time but it looks like another possible super girls. Also several happening bars where noted and even a few black touts on one end of town. Not to mention about 2 dozen soaps and a huge LH section. With Ikebukuro's proximity to Saitama there are lots of potential girls there to man these places. I am wondering if anyone has explored this area and can give out some info. Either on the forum or PM....
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I can add a few things.The Yoshiwara neighborhood is immaculate like Tokyo Disneyland. The streets are clean, the people living there are quiet and subdued and it's nothing like Kabukicho, Ikebukuro or Shibuya. It is a very pleasant place to walk around.Compared to Kawasaki (where I've had 0% success), the call rate and the quality of the ladies are quite good. There are some older ones there but it's been my experience that they are some of the best and providing pleasure.Just be aware that it's going to be very expensive. The cheapest places are going to be like CB or AM, only a much better experience, being in a purpose built facility where the waiting room, hallway and layout is all meant to retain privacy.[QUOTE=Captain Yonoi]10) GIRLS ARE ALL JAPANESE. Since we're in Japan here, I'm guessing alot of people get an extra thrill when it's an actual Japanese girl and not a Korean or Chinese or korean or thai.9) GIRLS ARE AROUND AN 8 ON A SCALE OF 1-10. Not like the 4's at JanJan.8) CALL RATE IS GOOD. I don't know if it's the economy or whatever but I get around a 50% rate lately. Nicer than the 10% at Tobita this summer.7) THE SERVICE. Recently, I was offered a ride back to Minowa Station by the staff. Nice of them, huh? Waiting rooms are nice. Flat screen tv's and leather couches rock.6) YOSHIWARA IS 100% FULL SERVICE. Why go somewhere you're not sure?5) ENERGY/ENTHUSIASM. 3 out of the last 5 trips I got 2 pops in 70 minute courses. They hopped on and wanted more. Didn't know I had it in me.4) NO ATTITUDE. Girls have always been friendly and kind of girlfriend like. Never sensed that one of them wasn't into me or was going at it half assed.3) NIHONGO. Not everyone cares about this but I'm trying to learn the language. Great conversation practice. Hard to hear the pigs at JanJan with the awful music blaring.2) NO NIGERIAN TOUTS. None that I've seen, anyway. Ever been followed by one in Kabukicho? It really sucks.1) MAT PLAY. If you haven't done it, you haven't lived.[/QUOTE]
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Shin-Okubo-- mongering opportunities?
I have tried hanging out around "Monbijou" love hotel in Shin-Okubo, and I have already reported on how there are usually 4-5 South American streetwalkers in the nearby alleys around 10pm-12 midnight on weekend nights. Many times, I have seen some obvious "deriheru" action there, with older guys hooking up with young and slutty-looking "dates" and heading to the love hotels in the area. I was wondering if anybody has done any serious research into mongering possibilities in Shin-Okubo. There are a lot of Korean establishments here, definitely some good eating places for cheap, and a lot of "esute"s. Some of their websites advertise "sexual massage". Does anyone know of any establishments in the Shin-Okubo area that offer fs? I recently had an opportunity to roam the internet sites listing "hoteheru" and "deriheru" in the Shin-Okubo area, and having walked around the area, there is p4p in the air. I think this will be my next area of reconnaissance, but if anybody has any advance information, it would be much appreciated.
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"World Famous Lisa"
Has anyone used "World Famous Lisa" who advertises on Craigslist sometimes? Her pictures look really good, but my experience so far is that she's rather high maintenance. Her quoted rates are comparable to AM or CB, but her "acceptable hotels" list is all four star or better.
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Alana from craigslist- anyone tried her yet?
Her latest post: [url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/1455223292.html[/url]Her name didn't come up on the search thread, so wondering if anyone's given her a shot.
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NYNY Champs
What train station are these near?[QUOTE=Homer69]I never recommend NYNY or Champs anymore to anyone. I've done this for co-workers and most of them can't deal with getting serviced by a 40-something or 50-something year old who reminds them of their mother or aunt. "Young and busty" could also mean young=35, busty=busty but you may have to deal with a beer gut and thunder thighs that many younger guys are just not ready for. If you want "young, busty and not chubby" then it's going to be a huge challenge to get all three at these places. Add "cute" or "attractive" to this mix and you are just not going to get it. Many years ago, a tout in the neighborhood tried to steer me away to a Chinese esute. I asked him how old, 30-something? He said, many are older. How much older? He said as old as 60. I said 60? He said, unfortunately yes. I have not seen any that were 60 but there are quite a few in their 50s there. Nothing wrong with a lady in her 50s if that's OK with you but for some guys, it's just not an enjoyable experience.Service is usually good but these places are not for most guys who prefer a younger, more fit and more attractive lady.[/QUOTE]
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new to site, not to Japan
Hi,I was wondering how many people have been able to date girls that they have gotten numbers or email from, when they met the girls through some service like dh or hotel health or grimpeur and so on?I have gotten mail but never been able to convert it into a date. Any clues would be welcome.
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AM date
[QUOTE=Onmyway]Hi,I was wondering how many people have been able to date girls that they have gotten numbers or email from, when they met the girls through some service like dh or hotel health or grimpeur and so on?[/QUOTE] I dated a girl from AM for a little while. I met her through AM, then she left that service to go back to school. Before she left, she told me she was going back to school. I told her I would like to go out with her, and it started with her calling me or emailing me. Eventually she could trust giving me her number and we dated for a little while... until I met someone else. I went out a couple of times with my "regular" from CB, but it wasn't going to work out. I could tell. So it happens. After a couple of regular services, seems they got to know I wasn't some creep or loser, and could trust seeing me outside work.
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NYNY and Champs
[QUOTE=Cluster99]What train station are these near?[/QUOTE]NYNY and Champs are near Ueno station. [url]http://newyork2.jp/[/url]
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I've dated a few girls from DH places and the like. However, I was never the one that put my foot forward. It has always been the girl that suggested it. In my experience, most of these girls are approached by other customers to date them or sometimes even marry them. So their normal response is to just lead you on as it's easier than saying no, it also has the benefit of possibly having you come back to see them again, repeat customers are a great thing after all.[QUOTE=Onmyway]Hi,I was wondering how many people have been able to date girls that they have gotten numbers or email from, when they met the girls through some service like dh or hotel health or grimpeur and so on?I have gotten mail but never been able to convert it into a date. Any clues would be welcome.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jelly37]I dated a girl from AM for a little while. [/QUOTE]Can you clarify what you mean by 'dating'? You were seeing her outside of AM for P4P or Gifts4P?
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I believe closer to Tokyo Metro Ueno-Okachimachi Station and Chiyoda Line Yushima Station.[QUOTE=Inasia]NYNY and Champs are near Ueno station. [url]http://newyork2.jp/[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Homer69]I believe closer to Tokyo Metro Ueno-Okachimachi Station and Chiyoda Line Yushima Station.[/QUOTE]Correct, closer and simpler to find form ueno Okamachi than ueno, or even the Okachimachi station on the yamamote line
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Am
[QUOTE=Pita123]Can you clarify what you mean by 'dating'? You were seeing her outside of AM for P4P or Gifts4P?[/QUOTE]Yea, I met her from AM. Soon after she said she was leaving AM and going back to school. I told her I'd still like to see her. I gave her my number and email. I took her out a couple of times; dinner, clubs. No discussion of money but I would give her a "tip" in the morning.
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Alana
[QUOTE=Really Now]Her latest post: [url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/1455223292.html[/url]Her name didn't come up on the search thread, so wondering if anyone's given her a shot.[/QUOTE]I called her yesterday, to set up a meeting. Not happening. She refused to come to my location, and said she is only interested in meeting at a hotel room. I didn't want to waste any more of my time talking with her to find out more details for a meeting that wasn't going to happen. So, I don't know what she charges or services she offers. Her voice sounded a bit on the older side. Not that age is an issue for me.
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[QUOTE=Techrepjapan]I called her yesterday, to set up a meeting. Not happening. She refused to come to my location, and said she is only interested in meeting at a hotel room. I didn't want to waste any more of my time talking with her to find out more details for a meeting that wasn't going to happen. So, I don't know what she charges or services she offers. Her voice sounded a bit on the older side. Not that age is an issue for me.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that 'girl' is a TS. She has been advertising under that name and image for awhile and some of the ads are clear about it. That's just my memory of the CL situation, however, I never met her.
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Yet another Hinomaru report...
Ok, so after hearing a whole bunch of things about this place (both positive and negative), I decided to finally give it a try. Here's what happened:It was a rainy day so no touts outside. Walked in and was immediately greeted by a very friendly tout who asked me what option I'd like (I chose the 40-minute for 8000 yen), and asked me to choose a girl from about 5 who were available as indicated by a small light next to their picture. The pictures themselves look nice - but they don't look anything like the actual girls. I chose Yuuna who looked about 25 in her picture. (she's No. 27 I think)The guy took me to a sofa and asked me to sit and wait there. After a few minutes Yuuna came. If the picture was really hers - it must have been taken at least 10 years ago. I think her real age was more like 40. Overall she looked like someone who used to be very attractive a decade ago, but just a regular obasan right now. On the upside- she wasn't fat or ugly - just a little old for my taste. Anyway, we made small talk for a few minutes, and she was surprisingly good at pretending to actually be interested in what we talked about - I guess it comes with the job. When we got down to business it was basically some kissing and petting, then she literally flipped over where her legs are on top of the couch, supported herself with one hand on the floor, and started a BBBJ. Overall her technique was great except she used her teeth at some point (on purpose I think) which hurt a bit.Overall experience: around 6-7Gaijin friendly: very. I spoke to them 100% in Japanese so I have no idea what their English level is like, but they didn't even blink about me being gaijin which is good. I saw a black guy getting in after me too.Girls: the ones I saw range from standard obasan to FAT obasan. Different people have different ratings, I guess if I had to rate them it'd be like a 3-4 at best - but I'm picky.Effort: she's a champ. seriously. good technique and she didn't stop until, well, you know.Will I go again? I don't think so. Nothing negative about the place - but I prefer someone who's closer to my age.Should you go? at their prices (4000 for 20min no girl choice, or 8000 for 40min with choice) I think you should try it at least once and decide for yourself.And while we're on the pink salon subject - does anyone know one where the girls are under 30 (heh) and they'd let gaijin in? (I'm fluent in Japanese if that's a factor)[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Gotanda
The other day, I decided to go to Gotanda.So I browsed the internet and checked a little bit the area.I phoned to this shop[url]http://www.Joule1.com/JOULE_gotanda2/[/url]I asked in Japanese if gaijins were allowed, they said ok.I arrived there at noon. They asked me whether id like a younger (<23) or bit older girl (supposed to be married 'furin'). Shop was busy, there was another jap guy in the waiting room. But bad surprise, suddenly they said no gaijin allowed. I protested that I asked over the phone before. But 'dou shiou mo nai.'.I was pissed off. I'm sure some gaijins made their way there, but somehow it didn't work for me.Fortunately as I know these things happen, I had a KDH # with me, I went into a LH (plenty in that area) called mama-san, and 20mns later, the girl showed up. Looked like the girl next door, with innocent looks. But she said my willie was too big from the start, and indeed she didn't enjoy that a lot, and she was relieved when it was finished.Of note: her teeth were a bit bad. I made the mistake of accepting BBBJ for 1 minute (which is already too long to be safe). Now bit itching a little. But more worryingly I didn't notice, but there was a tiny bruise, with blood coming out, and now I'm afraid could get some virus or AIDS. (of course for FS I put on a condom, but still.). I'll have to wait 3 months and make a test, but can't help thinking about it.BTW, in most estes/DH, the girl brushes her teeth and forces you to do so. Actually brushing teeth also can make some minor bruises and cause blooding in your mouth. I've been to a few sites on internet which do recommend NOT TO BRUSH your teeth (and hers). So BBBJ should be avoided, esp in Japan, I think. (and in my own experience, everytime I did not it ended being painful for me).[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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query AM Mika
Someone tried the new AM girl Mika yet? She looks cute.
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Joynurse - Marie Osawa
I've mentioned this place a couple of times before. I had a recent experience, though, which has almost put me off using the place for good. I'd spotted one girl that keeps popping up on the roster, with decent photos and a nice "table of contents", so to speak. According to their home page, she likes anal, tit fucks, sumata, 69, etc. Pretty much the only thing she doesn't do is swallowing.Well I finally got chance to spend some time with this lady. The first thing I could think when I met her was "surely some mistake!" This shop's website is quite clever about hiding faces and tattoos, but this was beyond a joke. She has clearly put on several pounds since the photo shoot on the web site. And by several I mean 20+. The girl is a pig now. The fine bone structure in the photos is history.And if that's not bad enough, her attitude stinks. She is clearly of the "I'm doing this job, so I'm better than you" frame of mind. It was a rough ride, but in the end she managed to bring me off with a HJ. Much dissatisfaction, unfortunately.
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Love Merci Sex Goods Shop in Akihabara
if your love life has gotten a little boring, then there is an awesome adult goods shop in akihabara i came across while escorting some of my friends around the electronics shops - love merci ([url]http://www.akibalovemerci.com/top.html[/url]). the shop is 5 floors with a dizzying selection of goods.- basement specializes in s&m products - all the ropes, whips, chains, masks, etc. for not-so-nice play.- first floor is for costume play - schoolgirl uniforms, nurse costumes, beer girl costumes (heineken, budweiser, etc.), racing girl uniforms, stockings, underwear, teddies, etc.- second floor has stuff for the ladies - dildoes, vibrators, anal beads, nipple stimulators, massagers, lubricants, condoms, etc.- third floor has stuff for the guys - blow-up dolls, latex foam dolls, masturbators, pocket pussies, etc.- fourth floor has become something called the "big goods" floor, which will be selling the blow-up dolls.i was looking for some dress-up play for my sweet asian squeeze back home, so i spent a lot of time looking through the schoolgirl costumes. if you want "near authentic" schoolgirl uniforms, they stock a great selection of multi-size/multi-design uniforms. they are made in china and are slightly loose-fitted for costume play, but the worksmanship is good and the detailing is very good (some of the sets come with faux school emblem patches, matching sweaters, etc.). costs range from jpy5500 for the simple "sailor costume" sets (blouse and skirt) to jpy20000 for the more detailed sets (blouse, skirt and sweater). there are costumes available in small, medium and large sizes - my petite asian fucklet looked great in her small size sailor costume. medium should fit the average adult asian and large should fit a slim western woman. if you are dressing a corn-fed western woman, there are a few xl selections, but the shop's clientele is mostly asian, so there will not be that many choices. for the schoolgirl purists amongst us, they also sell gymwear sets - white t-shirt and spandex bloomers (also in small, medium and large). there is also a kinky set of bloomers with the pre-cut fuck holes that are common in schoolgirl-themed japanese porn movies. yum yum!i took a look at the other floors. s&m isn't my thing, but the selection of implements of torture is extensive. i might me tempted to try if the gear wasn't so damn expensive (and if the chains didn't set off airport scanners). the ladies floor had a great selection of vibrators. next time i plan to pick up some anal beads - again, great selection. the men's floor with dolls and masturbators was impressive. here japanese realism comes into play. one of the dolls offered was so real (see pic) but i guess it should be with a price tag of circa usd2000! they really play up the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] angle with the love dolls - they even sell clothes to dress the dolls up with - panties, dresses, etc. hmmm. only in japan.getting there: take the japan railway (jr) yamanote line to akihabara station. take the exit for the akihabara electric town. just walk up the street past all the girls dressed for the maid cafes. you will see love merci right across the street just to the right of the laox electronics stores. here is the map (in japanese) [[url]http://www.akibalovemerci.com/map.html][/url].enjoy tokyo! asianrain
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New York New York
A first visit here last night. can't really say why I never went before, just always had other options, that is until my regular Chinese Estute closed. I decided to give NY/NY a shot last night, despite the fact that the reports here indicate this is obo-san land. Arrived about 8:45 pm, Was told the rules in Japanese, (I must have looked like I was struggling, because the dude switched to very clear English) I enquired if I could pick the provider and told yes, 1000 yen extra, but they only had 3 ladies working last night, and I would have to wait if I wanted to slect. I was horny as hell, and didn't feel like waiting around so I said, first available. The guy led me to the small waiting room, I was there about 5 minutes when he opened the door and there was my provider. Wow, she looked to be at least 40 and more likely 45. Not an attractive face and extra small tits. Her name is Ari. Well, at this point I have already paid, and as mentioned I'm horny as hell so I decide to drive on. Upstairs we go, Typical soap set-up in the room, tub, shower, small bed. WHAT is up with the box thing with the pressure guage? any body know what the hell that thing is for? looks like some kind of steam box. Anyway typical soap service. Body licking, HJ, Ass licking etc. Etc Ari wanted to kiss me during the service, and I just couldn't do it. A) she had just been licking my ass, b) she IS NOT attractive. I think she was shy that I wouldn't kiss her, so to make her feel better I licked her tits and gently caressed her ass pussy etc. She seemed to like it and grabbed by hand stuck it on her twat which was wet, (wether because she was truly aroused or because she had lubed it for the illusion, I know not). Any way she must have figured out that I was about to blow, because she put a condom on junior and proceed to whip him furiosly. I asked her if nama was ok, and she took of the condom and contiued on. Finished that way, this was about 40 minutes into the 50 minute course, we made small talk (she had very very limtied in English, but we did ok in my (poor) Japanese. She thanked me many times, said I was a very nice guy etc etc. Gave me a tea to go, and. Walked me downstairs, manager dude thanked me told me to come back any time, and home I went, well relieved.Summation:Service: 9Attitude: 10Body: 6 (small tits, but not fat or flabby)Looks: 3+ and that is pretty generousSo thats my first (and probably last) trip to NY/NY. Its very gaijin friendly, and for 98, 500 Soap type service (I say type because IMHO this does not qualify as soap 1.) NO FS, 2) no slide mat.) But everything else samey same. Any ways thats it.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Fair description
[QUOTE=Dong Hi]A first visit here last night. can't really say why I never went before, just always had other options, that is until my regular Chinese Estute closed. I decided to give NY/NY a shot last night, despite the fact that the reports here indicate this is obo-san land. Arrived about 8:45 pm, Was told the rules in Japanese, (I must have looked like I was struggling, because the dude switched to very clear English) I enquired if I could pick the provider and told yes, 1000 yen extra, but they only had 3 ladies working last night, and I would have to wait if I wanted to slect. I was horny as hell, and didn't feel like waiting around so I said, first available. The guy led me to the small waiting room, I was there about 5 minutes when he opened the door and there was my provider. Wow, she looked to be at least 40 and more likely 45. Not an attractive face and extra small tits. Her name is Ari. Well, at this point I have already paid, and as mentioned I'm horny as hell so I decide to drive on. Upstairs we go, Typical soap set-up in the room, tub, shower, small bed. WHAT is up with the box thing with the pressure guage? any body know what the hell that thing is for? looks like some kind of steam box. Anyway typical soap service. Body licking, HJ, Ass licking etc. Etc Ari wanted to kiss me during the service, and I just couldn't do it. A) she had just been licking my ass, b) she IS NOT attractive. I think she was shy that I wouldn't kiss her, so to make her feel better I licked her tits and gently caressed her ass pussy etc. She seemed to like it and grabbed by hand stuck it on her twat which was wet, (wether because she was truly aroused or because she had lubed it for the illusion, I know not). Any way she must have figured out that I was about to blow, because she put a condom on junior and proceed to whip him furiosly. I asked her if nama was ok, and she took of the condom and contiued on. Finished that way, this was about 40 minutes into the 50 minute course, we made small talk (she had very very limtied in English, but we did ok in my (poor) Japanese. She thanked me many times, said I was a very nice guy etc etc. Gave me a tea to go, and. Walked me downstairs, manager dude thanked me told me to come back any time, and home I went, well relieved.Summation:Service: 9Attitude: 10Body: 6 (small tits, but not fat or flabby)Looks: 3+ and that is pretty generousSo thats my first (and probably last) trip to NY/NY. Its very gaijin friendly, and for 98, 500 Soap type service (I say type because IMHO this does not qualify as soap 1.) NO FS, 2) no slide mat.) But everything else samey same. Any ways thats it.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]My only additional comment is that if you becomes a regular, you can ask for what you want. I don't speak japanese, but I can make myself understood and ask for "young and busty". Without paying extra, I ususally get it. It does not mean "attractive" but at least, a younger chick with some breasts is better than what you (and I initially) got. For less than 10000 yens, you are 100% sure of a good service with a japanese woman. Not that bad in Tokyo. Of course, if you want a younger attractive girl and FS, I think your best bet remains AM , 2h for 35000, at your place
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[QUOTE=Dong Hi]WHAT is up with the box thing with the pressure guage? any body know what the hell that thing is for? looks like some kind of steam box. [/QUOTE]It is, I recall reading way back on this thread that they are there for legal reasons as the place is classed as a bathhouse or something.
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That is correct. The steam box has to do with the licensing.Regarding Dong Hi's experience, it concurs with what most of the people I referred there said in the past. You will most likely have good service but the lady giving you the service may or may not be to your liking. I have never seen one there I would consider physically attractive, let alone cute or bijin. Most of them look like the ladies who clean the Shinkansen cars or the old ladies selling magazines at a Kiosk on the platform. You wouldn't be able to pick them out of a line up nor would you be able to describe them other than being an anonymous face in the crowd. Some of them are pretty out of shape and you may gasp when they take their clothes off. Believe it or not, one who had the worst body I've ever seen made up for it with killer BBBJ and a very nice smell doing 69. You have to just overcome the initial shock.Also, not all of them do BJ. Many of them just do HJ.If you can overcome the aversion to an older lady with an imperfect body and face then you could have a good time. If you are hung up about this then you probably shouldn't waste time or money there.As my friend, Kanda says, "I go there to take a bath and relax." I don't go there when I'm horny. That's a big mistake because for me, part of being horny is having a good visual experience to relieve myself. I don't get a good visual experience there. What I get is a nice bath, scrub-down and a release. The ladies work very hard and are mostly pretty well skilled but don't expect someone like your cousin's friend, expect someone more like your auntie's friend and you'll be fine.[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]It is, I recall reading way back on this thread that they are there for legal reasons as the place is classed as a bathhouse or something.[/QUOTE]
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Miss Universe?
Does anyone have a report on Miss Universe in Ikebukuro? [url]http://www.jo-kyoushi.com[/url]I would like to know how it is and how it goes as the girls on the website look very good.
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Miss Universe?
I was wondering if anyone has a report on Miss Universe in Ikebukuro?[url]http://www.jo-kyoushi.com/[/url]If anyone could report on how it is and how it works it would be much appreciated as the girls on the website look very nice.
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[QUOTE=Homer69]That is correct. The steam box has to do with the licensing.Also, not all of them do BJ. Many of them just do HJ. [/QUOTE]Cool, now I know! Looked like some giant gold flake pressure cooker!And yes, I did not get a BJ, some light shaft licking and ball licking but the little Ranger never touched her tonsils! I asked and she shook her head Damae! I, being the polite gaijin I am did not push the issue at all, just went with the system! Frankly if she would have sword swallowed, I would have rated the experience higher.That said, once again Homer69 has sage advice. Go in with an understanding of the level of provider you will have, and you will be happy. The service truly was top notch. Interestingly enough, when I left, a tout at the intersection told me (all in Japanese) that he knew NYNY was NOT FS and he could take me to a place that was. (I understand Nihongo a thousand times better than I speak it!) so, next time I'm in the mood, I will seek this out and report up.
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[QUOTE=Homer69]As my friend, Kanda says, "I go there to take a bath and relax." I don't go there when I'm horny. That's a big mistake because for me, part of being horny is having a good visual experience to relieve myself. I don't get a good visual experience there. What I get is a nice bath, scrub-down and a release.[/QUOTE]So true. The first time I went there I was a bit taken aback, but there came a day when I was tired, cold and in need of a bit of "pampering" to feel human again and it fitted the bill exactly. (Those Thai massage places in Kabukicho serve a similar function, though the service is different).
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Yes, the need to just be treated like a human (you may call it pampered) is different from being horny and needing to get your rocks off. If I need that I go to one of a few Chinese esute neighborhoods I know of, pay my 1-man and get unmemorable FS from a Chinese lady. It serves the purpose, gets me out of the horny mode and allows me to get on with things. Sometimes I just need that, usually when I'm stressed out. Other times, when I'm just tired or in a different mood I, too, go for a bath or the two places in Kabukicho you mention (A-F and A-R) and get a very nice massage with hand release. If I want akasuri I go to Oji and get it there but no touching and no nudity, either, just killer akasuri and nice massage and a quick hand finish and shower.[QUOTE=Gaienmae08]So true. The first time I went there I was a bit taken aback, but there came a day when I was tired, cold and in need of a bit of "pampering" to feel human again and it fitted the bill exactly. (Those Thai massage places in Kabukicho serve a similar function, though the service is different).[/QUOTE]
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Jan Jan Needs More Customers!
Hey guys. I have not been feeling 100% on this trip to Japan, so I haven't been doing my usual scouting of new locations. Instead I've been hitting the regular places, and tonight I went to Jan Jan. At 9:30 on a Wednesday night with good weather, I was expecting it to at least be crowded, if not a bit of a wait. Instead I had the entire place virtually to myself. The tout saw me at the head of the street and beckoned me in. "No no, we're not busy at all," he said, and he wasn't kidding. And the upstairs place next door that Puta Playa mentioned a while ago tried to rope me in after I had finished at Jan Jan. If I would have had the energy, I might have taken him up on it.Yukari, my service provider, gave me a top-five lifetime blow job (probably top three if I'm completely honest). From what has been said on this board she is not unique in her stellar oral skills. I'm issuing a call to action! Everybody on this board who isn't an asshole, get to Jan Jan as soon as possible. I would hate to see this place shut down because of lack of business.
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Not possible
[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Everybody on this board who isn't an asshole...[/QUOTE]That might be a hard order to fill.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Hey guys. I have not been feeling 100% on this trip to Japan, so I haven't been doing my usual scouting of new locations. Instead I've been hitting the regular places, and tonight I went to Jan Jan. At 9:30 on a Wednesday night with good weather, I was expecting it to at least be crowded, if not a bit of a wait. Instead I had the entire place virtually to myself. The tout saw me at the head of the street and beckoned me in. "No no, we're not busy at all, " he said, and he wasn't kidding. And the upstairs place next door that Puta Playa mentioned a while ago tried to rope me in after I had finished at Jan Jan. If I would have had the energy, I might have taken him up on it.Yukari, my service provider, gave me a top-five lifetime blow job (probably top three if I'm completely honest). From what has been said on this board she is not unique in her stellar oral skills. I'm issuing a call to action! Everybody on this board who isn't an asshole, get to Jan Jan as soon as possible. I would hate to see this place shut down because of lack of business.[/QUOTE]Maybe if JanJan had better looking women, they would have more customers. The place is an STD just waiting to happen. Many better places to go to.
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[QUOTE=Captain Yonoi]Maybe if JanJan had better looking women, they would have more customers. The place is an STD just waiting to happen. Many better places to go to.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your feedback. Personally I thought my provider was quite attractive for the service type and price point. I didn't really notice anything in their service regimen that increased the risk of STD, other than the fact that they offer BBBJ with CIM, and while you are correct that the risk is higher, it is a personal choice we each make individually. I am well aware that there are places that offer many other different options and price points. But to each his own, and on the basis of postings to this board, Jan Jan seems to have a combination of price, service, and gaijin-friendliness that many readers value. I strongly encourage you that if you personally don't like Jan Jan, by all means, please stay away. My message is obviously not intended for you. But if there is anyone reading this who enjoys Jan Jan and would like to see it continue, I wanted to bring to their attention that they seem to be hurting for customers.Also, I am looking for a place that would provide me with genetic clones of Sora Aoi, Aida Yua, Himeno Rimu and Yoshizaki Nao in a luxury suite, all night, for around 5000 yen. If you encounter a place like this, please do pass it on.
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Kinshichou
The south exit of this station is a major mongering area that gets little mention on this board. I'm seeing a girl who lives in this area, so I'm in and out once every few weeks. The local specialty seems to be foreign girls. Of course, there are lots of the unfuckable Chinese massagi girls in the quad, but as soon as you get into the other areas you will be approached by Japanese, Chinese, and Middle Eastern (?) touts trying to bring you into their places. (A lot of them will offer you ichman for a lay, but they can be talked down.) There are some pink salons staffed by foreign girls due south and south west of the exit, which have Eastern European and Phillapina girls. Also, to the south east, kitty corners over the huge intersection there is a blow job ally, with Japanese and Korean girls. Gaijin Otoko: If you are looking for some new scouting you might want to check out this area.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Thanks for your feedback. Personally I thought my provider was quite attractive for the service type and price point. I didn't really notice anything in their service regimen that increased the risk of STD, other than the fact that they offer BBBJ with CIM, and while you are correct that the risk is higher, it is a personal choice we each make individually. I am well aware that there are places that offer many other different options and price points. But to each his own, and on the basis of postings to this board, Jan Jan seems to have a combination of price, service, and gaijin-friendliness that many readers value. I strongly encourage you that if you personally don't like Jan Jan, by all means, please stay away. My message is obviously not intended for you. But if there is anyone reading this who enjoys Jan Jan and would like to see it continue, I wanted to bring to their attention that they seem to be hurting for customers.Also, I am looking for a place that would provide me with genetic clones of Sora Aoi, Aida Yua, Himeno Rimu and Yoshizaki Nao in a luxury suite, all night, for around 5000 yen. If you encounter a place like this, please do pass it on.[/QUOTE] If you research far back enough, there is a report from a guy who got crabs after a visit there. Yes, to each his own, the price can't be beat, 100% gaijin friendly but the place is filthy.
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I scouted the area on a few occasions with very little luck. Lots of Filipina bar girls when I was there. Most of the esute and all of the health refused service. I did get serviced at Chinese places but they are unmemorable. There are a ton of foreigners (ladies) there, though.[QUOTE=Xslikx]The south exit of this station is a major mongering area that gets little mention on this board. I'm seeing a girl who lives in this area, so I'm in and out once every few weeks. The local specialty seems to be foreign girls. Of course, there are lots of the unfuckable Chinese massagi girls in the quad, but as soon as you get into the other areas you will be approached by Japanese, Chinese, and Middle Eastern (?) touts trying to bring you into their places. (A lot of them will offer you ichman for a lay, but they can be talked down.) There are some pink salons staffed by foreign girls due south and south west of the exit, which have Eastern European and Phillapina girls. Also, to the south east, kitty corners over the huge intersection there is a blow job ally, with Japanese and Korean girls. Gaijin Otoko: If you are looking for some new scouting you might want to check out this area.[/QUOTE]
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Grimpeur
Seconded. I have been frequenting this establishment since its L/S days and you need to try a few more to find a good one. Sometimes tips work wonder but sometimes it's just a waste of money. Kasumi is pretty good, at least you can have penetration, I never ask for vaginal intercourse with her since she is keen on anal sex. Good service, average body. [QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Well, it depends on how you look at it.In general, Grimpeur is a crap shoot. You might get a good provider, but usually, at the prices that they charge, I don't go in with high expectations. You may or may not get FS. You may or may not get enthusiastic service. Most likely, you will not get "professional" service (positive and negative connotations). If you get lucky and pick a good provider, she may not stay there long enough for you to use her as a LT provider.In general, if you are looking for better or more consistent/predictable service, you need to go elsewhere and pay more.In other words, you are expecting too much for what you pay at Grimpeur.[/QUOTE]
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JanJan is friendly and all but just filthy. I got chlamydia there on two different occasions from two different girls. Not bad looking either but when you think about it, the good looking ones or the decent looking ones are the one who get more dick in their mouths and have a higher likelihood of being sick.
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[QUOTE=Homer69]I scouted the area on a few occasions with very little luck. Lots of Filipina bar girls when I was there. Most of the esute and all of the health refused service. I did get serviced at Chinese places but they are unmemorable. There are a ton of foreigners (ladies) there, though.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the only places I've been to there are the pink salon, bj bar type places.
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Gotanda - again
I went to Gotanda noon time. First I wanted to go for a KDH in a LH, (see a previous report) but I was hailed by a scout. I asked WTF it was about.Well, quite a good surprise. Pink salon, 7000 yens. Loud music, huge sofa. Quite dark but you can have a glimpse of the action of your fellow mongers (if you enjoy this kind of things.! I do.). J-girls, young, but not really pretty. Mine was a 5/10 face ok but really thin, no tits, bad teeth.Like other places, its about BBBJ & CIM, but I asked for a condom and I got it. I tried to remove the condom & CIM at the end, but I missed it, damn, I have to go and try again.It was really busy. All seats were full, and I saw customers come in as soon as some clients left.Personally I think BBBJ is unhealthy and no showers / toilets in this kind of place. As someone said on this forum, its a STD in waiting. So please be careful.Where? Take A6 exit from Toei Asakusa Gotanda, turn right into Gotanda Ichibancho, (big sign above your head) 2nd small street on the right, second floor. I think the sign reads 'O-takara' (treasure).Maybe there has been a report on this place in this forum already?
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New Hot Point
[quote=nampa guy]kerfuffle, 2000y is for one show, then you have to leavemy exper. was pretty good there. i had the misfortune of showing up right after the show started so it was a long wait in the sitting area where there are many hentai manga to read. the doorman asked me if i spoke japanese and i just said hai. and he asked for my kietai which i turned off and handed to him. then about a 20 min wait. the guys came out one by one as they blew loads and it looked like one girl was doing all of them.my japanese sucks so after everyone was out and they were ready to start the next show (the waiting room now had about 5 guys) they apparently asked for the guy who came in first. i hesitated and then figured it out and sprang up to get my booth because then i was also the first to get serviced!good system as i had already hung around there long enough. the girl came in and asked if i wanted her or the girl who strips and what did i want from the menu. i picked her and the bj w/ hat. i was just there for the strange experiance so it was not what i would call a blow your doors off experiance but it was a good prelude to the rest of the evenings happenings in shinjuku.[/quote]new hot point has a new system. when you go in you choose out of 2 girls you want to visit (if you want more than the peep show). i have gone a few times on saturday mornings and the girls are 10's! you can't go wrong. after i chose which girl i wanted from the picture i waited until the show. one girl guides you in. then a short wait and show starts (nothing special). then the girld comes to the box and removes the stool. she pulls down your pants and depending on which service you got (hand or covered bj) she goes to town. oh yah you can opt for breast touch which i personally like. she was very young 19 or 20 and very firm everywhere, skinny too (which i like). she had trouble with multiple condoms ripping as she tried putting them on but she was a trooper. i think it might have been her 1st time. as she sucked i pushed her head up and down and she didn't seem to mind. i am still jerking off too her after about 5 months! maybe i will go tommorow morning! highly recommend it! the girls are willing and able to please!
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Tokyo Report - Foreigner friendly
I recently had an unscheduled stop over in tokyo with limited private time. Before I could read the forum, I was wandering around the shubiya area and ran into a tout who mentioned Gajin friendly areas.I was low on time that day but still decided to investigate. This guy, an older gentleman carried with him a laminated 8X6 card with small logos of local joints. He pointed to 3 of them out of the 20 or so and said "foreigner ok". And motioned me to walk along. I know nothing about japanese and I am non-oriental asian.The first place had a catalog with seemingly attractive early 20 (IMHO) girls. The rate quoted was 20,000 for 50 minutes (not sure what is the sense in 50, but the guy insisted on it), which was dropped immediately to 18000 when I didnt seem interested. I was trying to ask what it bought me and the guy said "sexo oral" which meant blow job. There was no full service on the menu. I was taken to a second place which asked for 15000 for 1 hour but turned out that only HJ was offered. I did not take any of them that day as I was short of time. At one point I was tempted but better sense prevailed. Here are the directions ... (experienced mongers probably know these directions by street names)- Take exit 1 from Shubiya Tokyo metro station (reads EXIT for THE PRIME. Its on B1F on the multi floor map)- Turn right when you get out of the staircase, onto the street.- Walk till you see "Royal Host". I think its a cafe.- Immediately after that a lane turns right, uphill. Must be atleast 20 degree incline and you can see a convenience store about 50 meters up (its not a 7-11 but some other one)- I am trying to recollect my thoughts but I think there is also some kind of gate like how china towns normally have, but dont hold me to the gate thing.- walk stright past the convenience store, ignore the branch off to the left.- the road will "automatically turn left". You cannot go straight , there is a love motel, i think.- Go about 75 meters, and on your left you will pass a big steel grey garage kind of door. Its probably not made of steel but is eazy to spot as it stands out against concrete walls. It is less of a door but more of a steel covering for the wall as if reinforcing it.- just before the steel door there is a small opening with a curtain (dark color) to get in. You need to go down 4-5 steps into a small room.- A makeshift wooden counter will have a guy with a catalog of girls.Also they charge additional 20% for credit cards.Hope it helps .... please do post if you try out the fare.BTW, thanks to the forum, I tried Ai from Asian Majestic the next day with great satisfaction.-
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BJ Alley
Xslikx,I used to stay in this area when they had a Marriott there. There were a lot of Chinese girls available for gaijin, but I did not notice anything else. Maybe I didn't look far enough. One Chinese mamasan took me to a place; I think it was a Pink Salon, where I got FS from a J-girl for 15k. I ended up becoming good friends with the mamasan afterwards and she would stay with me at my hotel when I was in town so I did not monger in the area after that. She was probably unfuckable by mongering standards (30+ yo) but then it was free. She has since disappeared and her cell phone is disconnected. Good things never last.Do you know if the BJ places are gaijin friendly? I am starting to get afraid of Sugamo after what has been posted about Jan Jan. It has always been one of my favorite places.OAH[QUOTE=Xslikx]The south exit of this station is a major mongering area that gets little mention on this board. I'm seeing a girl who lives in this area, so I'm in and out once every few weeks. The local specialty seems to be foreign girls. Of course, there are lots of the unfuckable Chinese massagi girls in the quad, but as soon as you get into the other areas you will be approached by Japanese, Chinese, and Middle Eastern (?) touts trying to bring you into their places. (A lot of them will offer you ichman for a lay, but they can be talked down.) There are some pink salons staffed by foreign girls due south and south west of the exit, which have Eastern European and Phillapina girls. Also, to the south east, kitty corners over the huge intersection there is a blow job ally, with Japanese and Korean girls. Gaijin Otoko: If you are looking for some new scouting you might want to check out this area.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Do you know if the BJ places are gaijin friendly? OAH[/QUOTE]I've been to two BJ places there, one with gaijin providers and the other with J-girl providers. (The gaijin place was CBJ.) I've also been invited into a few more.
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[QUOTE=Xslikx]I've been to two BJ places there, one with gaijin providers and the other with J-girl providers. (The gaijin place was CBJ.) I've also been invited into a few more.[/QUOTE]What are the prices you've (or anyone else has) encountered in Kinshicho, for BJ establishments and any other variants? I've always assumed the area was about fashion healths (at most, as far as P4P was concerned) and hostess bars (some of which offered omochikaeri take-out girls).Thanks
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Prices
[QUOTE=Xslikx]I've been to two BJ places there, one with gaijin providers and the other with J-girl providers. (The gaijin place was CBJ.) I've also been invited into a few more.[/QUOTE]How were the prices compared to Sugamo? Can you give me better directions from the south exit? I remember the main mongering area and a big plaza to the right of it. Thanks.OAH
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]How were the prices compared to Sugamo? Can you give me better directions from the south exit? I remember the main mongering area and a big plaza to the right of it. Thanks.OAH[/QUOTE]Prices range from 4,000 to 6,000, depending on the time of day, which is more than JanJan but comparable to most pink salons. The places that I went to were in roughly these locations (which you can enter into Google Maps):Gaijin providers:(35.69575239971124, 139.81140285730362)A BJ alley, J-girl providers:(35.69512069201174, 139.81567561626434)
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Public Service Announcement
The rule of "don't follow touts", as well as don't go to those shady bars in Roppongi, should be a hard-and-fast rule. I should have heeded this advice.Anyway, the PSA is this -- DO NOT GO TO AVALON IN ROPPONGI (wherever that is). I rolled the dice and followed a tout into a less than respectable place, and the night went downhill from there. Avalon charged USD 5000 on my credit card. Suffice it to say it's total BS.Anyway, I won't have to pay of course, but clearly Avalon (and any of those shady places) are to be avoided.Happy Thanksgiving.-B-
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Bonzo,It's a hard and fast rule for anyone who drinks alcohol to never take a credit card or excess cash along with you when you go out drinking. You take enough for the night and that's it. I'm not sure what led you to partake but its common knowledge here in this forum that this is a "get what you deserve" scenario when you start going along with touts who promise you things associated with drinking alcohol you're simply asking for trouble. It's not particular clubs, either. It's anywhere but especially in Kabukicho and Roppongi.[QUOTE=Bonzo1]The rule of "don't follow touts", as well as don't go to those shady bars in Roppongi, should be a hard-and-fast rule. I should have heeded this advice.Anyway, the PSA is this -- DO NOT GO TO AVALON IN ROPPONGI (wherever that is). I rolled the dice and followed a tout into a less than respectable place, and the night went downhill from there. Avalon charged USD 5000 on my credit card. Suffice it to say it's total BS.Anyway, I won't have to pay of course, but clearly Avalon (and any of those shady places) are to be avoided.Happy Thanksgiving.-B-[/QUOTE]
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Advice taken re credit cards. However, I don't think I 'deserved' to be drugged and ripped off to the tune of $5000 plus my cash (about $500), though it's not unexpected I suppose. In any case, I submitted this post (despite the shame) to forewarn others in hopes that they might avoid a similar circumstance. -B-[QUOTE=Homer69]Bonzo,It's a hard and fast rule for anyone who drinks alcohol to never take a credit card or excess cash along with you when you go out drinking. You take enough for the night and that's it. I'm not sure what led you to partake but its common knowledge here in this forum that this is a "get what you deserve" scenario when you start going along with touts who promise you things associated with drinking alcohol you're simply asking for trouble. It's not particular clubs, either. It's anywhere but especially in Kabukicho and Roppongi.[/QUOTE]
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No shame, just a hard lesson. The drink-spiking has been in the news since March 2009 or even before. I'm surprised you didn't know. The US Embassy has been warning Americans (not sure where you're from but that doesn't matter because this pertains to all foreigners) about drink spiking. It's very well known throughout the expat community. Do a search. Here is just one article: [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/18/us-embassy-tokyo-warning[/url][QUOTE=Bonzo1]Advice taken re credit cards. However, I don't think I 'deserved' to be drugged and ripped off to the tune of $5000 plus my cash (about $500), though it's not unexpected I suppose. In any case, I submitted this post (despite the shame) to forewarn others in hopes that they might avoid a similar circumstance. -B-[/QUOTE]
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Ah - that's scary. I'm American, but not living in Tokyo...was just visiting friends and did zero research. Hence I suppose I was a perfect target, particularly given my "I'll try anything once" attitude. Lesson learned. Hope can prevent someone else from suffering the same thing. I can say first hand it REALLY sucked - not just the phony credit card charged, but more the entire night which I can hardly remember other than struggling to deal with BS and to get out of the bar and get back to my hotel.Happy thanksgiving, and safe wishes to all.-B- [QUOTE=Homer69]No shame, just a hard lesson. The drink-spiking has been in the news since March 2009 or even before. I'm surprised you didn't know. The US Embassy has been warning Americans (not sure where you're from but that doesn't matter because this pertains to all foreigners) about drink spiking. It's very well known throughout the expat community. Do a search. Here is just one article: [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/18/us-embassy-tokyo-warning[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bonzo1] Avalon charged USD 5000 on my credit card. Suffice it to say it's total BS.Anyway, I won't have to pay of course, but clearly Avalon (and any of those shady places) are to be avoided.Happy Thanksgiving.-B-[/QUOTE]What surprises me in these scams are also the credit card companies. for sure most of the scams go successfull as nobody dares ot complain for many reasons. Still there is a good number of people that claims with the cc company and surely those corporates have list fo th egood and bad establishments.I mean, a high rate of claims should be a warning not to license those scammers with credit card payments.Evidently they do not care!
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I have informed my credit card company and I'm fairly sure I won't have to pay. My company, Chase, puts the responsibility on the establishment to prove the charges, which in this case of course they will not be able to do. I agree - they have access to lists about bad establishments, and these places should have their merchant licenses revoked. It happens occasionally in China they do (get their licenses revoked). Strange that it happens over and over in Tokyo without similar consequences....[QUOTE=Bionicman]What surprises me in these scams are also the credit card companies. for sure most of the scams go successfull as nobody dares ot complain for many reasons. Still there is a good number of people that claims with the cc company and surely those corporates have list fo th egood and bad establishments.I mean, a high rate of claims should be a warning not to license those scammers with credit card payments.Evidently they do not care![/QUOTE]
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Gotanda - Pink Salon O-Takara
[QUOTE=Herpes]I went to Gotanda noon time. First I wanted to go for a KDH in a LH, (see a previous report) but I was hailed by a scout. I asked WTF it was about.Well, quite a good surprise. Pink salon, 7000 yens. Loud music, huge sofa. Quite dark but you can have a glimpse of the action of your fellow mongers (if you enjoy this kind of things.! I do.). J-girls, young, but not really pretty. Mine was a 5/10 face ok but really thin, no tits, bad teeth.Like other places, its about BBBJ & CIM, but I asked for a condom and I got it. I tried to remove the condom & CIM at the end, but I missed it, damn, I have to go and try again.It was really busy. All seats were full, and I saw customers come in as soon as some clients left.Personally I think BBBJ is unhealthy and no showers / toilets in this kind of place. As someone said on this forum, its a STD in waiting. So please be careful.Where? Take A6 exit from Toei Asakusa Gotanda, turn right into Gotanda Ichibancho, (big sign above your head) 2nd small street on the right, second floor. I think the sign reads 'O-takara' (treasure).Maybe there has been a report on this place in this forum already?[/QUOTE]Hi againI could not resist to go there again.The tout didn't recognize me, but it was the same guy, and about the same time (noon). I had to wait about 20mns to get serviced. This time, I looked at the price board, and noticed service starts at 3, 500 (before noon). Last time I paid 7, 000 for 1 girl (so the double). This time the guy told me id have 2 girls for 7, 000 yens, then 5mns later told me this time only id have 2 girls this time, but normally id have only 1 next time, as for gaijin, the rate is double.Of course, I complained and the guy figured out I could read and speak Japanese, so next time they may not try these cheap tricks.This is a rip-off as I'm sure the guys keep the money for themselves and not the girls. But hey, were gaijins and all-in-all its a bargain basement price in Tokyo for the quality of service and nice setup.Anyway I'm a one-shot guy (need more time to reload) and I knew in advance #2 girl would totally unhelpful, except for fondling, hugging and kissing.It wasnt the same girls than the other day. The girls are not good looking, theyre poor and simple girls from Chiba or Saitama, having a hard living. All 3 are kind hearted, offer good service and have good BJ technique, IMHO.And part of the excitement is to see other people getting laid or being seen getting a nice BJ. Might be fun to go in groups as well. (4 people max if I remember well)[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Bonzo1]I have informed my credit card company and I'm fairly sure I won't have to pay. My company, Chase, puts the responsibility on the establishment to prove the charges, which in this case of course they will not be able to do.[/QUOTE]You should be fine. A friend with a [I]Japanese[/I] credit card wasn't so lucky. The Japanese credit card companies are very difficult to get reversals on and he is paying off a $US5000 debt. I had a hold put on my American credit card once because of a legitimate $2000 transaction which was rejected. When I contacted them about my card not working they asked if that transaction was OK. It wasn't easy saying yes. I could have got away with rejecting it.
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Credit Cards - don't use it
[QUOTE=Japanguy]You should be fine. A friend with a [I]Japanese[/I] credit card wasn't so lucky. The Japanese credit card companies are very difficult to get reversals on and he is paying off a $US5000 debt. I had a hold put on my American credit card once because of a legitimate $2000 transaction which was rejected. When I contacted them about my card not working they asked if that transaction was OK. It wasn't easy saying yes. I could have got away with rejecting it.[/QUOTE]I had a chance to figure out these Chinese girls near the naval base. I went in for the standard 3000 Yen massage from a good looking Chinese girl. Went upstairs and saw a bunch of curtained stalls. I got on the table and started with a standard massage. A drunken US guy was in the next stall, could hear him asking for extras. Long Story Short (LSS) the girl charges this guy 40, 000 yen for a HJ on his CC "sign here" was the clue. With the heavy Chinese accent it was easy to mislead the price for 4, 000Y (showing 4 fingers). My time was about up so I requested another 30 minutes for 3, 000 Y. Then came in victim #2 extremely drunk could hardly even get on the massage table. LSS Credit card charge 70, 000 Y for BJ. For the 6, 000 Y I did get a lubed HJ at the end.Things to watch for at these establishments.Curtained booths will not allow FS, may be BJ.Watch for second girl asking for the house $/Y especially different from negotiated. (I negotiated FS for 10, 000Y and second girl asked for 3000Y house fee (?). RUN, they will try to stop you by grabbing your arm.I found FS range from 10, 000 to 15, 000 Y depending on your negotiating skills; they try to rip you off starting at 30, 000 to 90, 000Y.The FS I got was in small single massage rooms, not separated by curtains but with real walls.
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Alana from CL
[QUOTE=Really Now]Her latest post: [url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/1455223292.html[/url]Her name didn't come up on the search thread, so wondering if anyone's given her a shot.[/QUOTE]After numerous failed attempts and cancellations I was finally able to secure an appointment with Alana. Met her at Roppongi station and was not impressed. Her pictures that she posted on CL could be her, but a few years ago, she looks to be around 35. I backed out after seeing her (I made an excuse that I got an important call and had to leave) but I did give her money for her cab fare. She offered $250 for the entire night but I couldn't bring myself to do it. It seems like she had some sort of acne condition on her face also.
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[QUOTE=Warburton 0263]Things to watch for at these establishments.Curtained booths will not allow FS, may be BJ.The FS I got was in small single massage rooms, not separated by curtains but with real walls.[/QUOTE]Perhaps for that particular establishment, but others (with only curtains) DO allow FS. SPM Takanobaba is but one example....
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[QUOTE=Mike921]Perhaps for that particular establishment, but others (with only curtains) DO allow FS. SPM Takanobaba is but one example....[/QUOTE]Please see my previous reports in Nishi-Nippori as well.
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Grimpeur new report
Hey guys, this is my first report ever and I just found this forum yesterday. After serveral readings of previous grimpeur report, I decided to go there check it myself. Arrived around 5PM, the place was easy to find but there are two doors on each side, a little confused on which one to go in. I look japanese but not able to fully communcate with the staff. When I walked in, there were five guys standing behind the counter and ask he many questions in japanese. I told them I a gaijin and only say a few word. Then they show me who is able to take a gaijin customer. I forgot her name, 21 yr be cup. The guy walked me to the hotel 20 feet away and check in the room. Waited about 10 mins before the girl showed up. I paid 40mins and the girl has a smoking hot body. Except her nose bridge a bit tall, everything else was perfect.We talked a few mins before she set the timer. Shower together with all the standard, washed my part with great care and always talk to me about many things in japanese. I only understand half of what she was saying but no problem on breaking the ice. Then she sucked my part for a long time, asking me if I am S or M. Of course I went S on her. About half way, I asked her real penatration if alright. She said it's illegal but she want me to keep it secret. Maybe I played it cool or I just play cute, she wants me go all the way. Then the next 20 mins was fantastic. All the positions I could think off and not to worry about breaking the comdom since she pull out an extra size from her purse. She said the japanese are too small for me. She cry out like a porn star but not in the fake way. Last few mins left, I said I want to cum in her month and she went really deep with out the protection. It was the first time I got a real month finish. She spit out the stuff and clean my part with her month again. Never a better feeling then this.Totally worth going back. Service 10. Attitude 10. Body 10 but face I gave a 7 because her nose.Additional note, I used to go to the massage place around shinjuku. Taking the south exit, 4 mins walk straight towards the JR hospital right befor the AM PM store. On the left side, there are three massage place in one building. The 8th floor has real deal but the girls there are not so hot. 4 for body and 5 for service. 5th floor are all Chinese, "asian maid". But only HJ. The thai massage place which on the same floor has the best massage but I can't touch the girls. So I only went there once.So anyone know any place better for a cheaper, better place then grimpuer. Please let me know.
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[QUOTE=Matsu69]According to the website, most of the girls are from Spain. There are also others from France, Switzerland, Portugal, Greece, Argentina, and the US. No Eastern European countries mentioned.Seems a little strange because the girls are smokin', but the prices seem pretty low. It's right across the street from Mark City in Shibuya, so you would think there would be a line of guys standing in the street waiting their turn.If anyone has any info on this place, please share.[/QUOTE]I tried to fine the place yesterday around 5PM. Had a difficult time locate the place. Only I could find is that pachiko on the first floor. Do I have to call?
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Nishi Nippori - again
Went to Nishi Nippori again.Not to the Korean place (este Feel) but to Carnival[url]http://n-carnival.com/index_pc.php[/url]Gaijin friendly. But you have to speak Japanese to find the place. Unless you read this forum!So at the exit from JR, look for the Yoshinoya. Next small street on the right. At the end of the street is a LH called Hotel Papillon. Before that on the right side of that street is a Udon called Kameya (in Hiragana.?). Now if my memory is good, on the other side of the street is an old residential building (blue if I remember well) called New Fleet (?). No sign of any activity. Some bicycles in the entrance. Go to room 501 and knock at the door. IRRASHAIMASE!Mostly Chinese girls, some Korean & Thai as well. Looks 5 at best. But service quite good if you're nice with them. No unnecessary waiting, no BS.FS looks always included. Starts at 6, 000 for 40mns. Today I chose 3P course for 15, 000 / 1 hour. It feels very nice for sure! Even I wasnt in great form at all (and probably a bit 'worried' about the situation and my 'performance') I don't regret at all my money!Actually thats my 2nd time here. The girls are not clean. I don't recommend BBBJ and be sure to use condoms and bring your own ones (might be too small for you.)
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Kinshichou report
I went there about two month ago when I was bored out of my mind on a weekend. I went to two massage parlor that night and found out they are all legit. Both of them are at the north east exit of the JR station. First one called "mo-e" in kanji, right above a taiwan food joint. First I asked in japanese if any happy ending. And the mamasan keeps saying yes. 8k yen for one hour. But nothing happen. And the massage was so-so. Another place right across the street on the back alley. Thai massage and I paid 3k for 30 mins with shower and everthing. I didn't expecting anything but the massage was superb. Stretch out my back bones and everything. Feels like a new born when all my joints are all loosen up. I recommand this place for a short relax.Ps, there is another korean massage place very closed to the "asian feel" in shinjuku kabukicho. 10k yen for a hour service. First 30 mins was a deep scrubbing in the shower table. First I feel like in a mortgue when they clean up the body. But they did a very nice job on cleaning you up. So much dead tissue scrubed away. And the HJ was nice and quick if you close your eyes the hold time and don't mind the obansan, who is really hot when she was younger. Biggest load I ever shot. Still a little sore five hours later. I recommand you do it once a year, just for the srubbing is worth the price.I have been reading so much about the BJ alley in varies parts of tokyo. Can someone do a whole list and it's location? Much apprciated.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Touts as guides
[QUOTE=Bonzo1]The rule of "don't follow touts", as well as don't go to those shady bars in Roppongi, should be a hard-and-fast rule. I should have heeded this advice.-B-[/QUOTE]Yeah, don't follow touts to the places they are touting...but they actually can be friendly guides if you let them know that you're a real hobbyist who knows the business...not just a tourist or rookie monger. I got one to show me the closest place to buy an umbrella in Kabukicho. Yet another one showed me the location of a good cheap ramen noodle shop.After walking around for an hour, I got a tout for a different shop to show me the location of Hinomaru. I assume and hope he got a commission.Some of these guys even ask me about the scene elsewhere, and I make them jealous with tales of Latin America. :) The ones I've spoken to don't even get to session the girls that they are touting..sad.
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I can't make head or tail of the options on the System page - could someone kindly summarize?[QUOTE=Herpes]Went to Nishi Nippori again.Not to the Korean place (este Feel) but to Carnival[url]http://n-carnival.com/index_pc.php[/url]Gaijin friendly. But you have to speak Japanese to find the place. Unless you read this forum!So at the exit from JR, look for the Yoshinoya. Next small street on the right. At the end of the street is a LH called Hotel Papillon. Before that on the right side of that street is a Udon called Kameya (in Hiragana.?). Now if my memory is good, on the other side of the street is an old residential building (blue if I remember well) called New Fleet (?). No sign of any activity. Some bicycles in the entrance. Go to room 501 and knock at the door. IRRASHAIMASE!Mostly Chinese girls, some Korean & Thai as well. Looks 5 at best. But service quite good if you're nice with them. No unnecessary waiting, no BS.FS looks always included. Starts at 6, 000 for 40mns. Today I chose 3P course for 15, 000 / 1 hour. It feels very nice for sure! Even I wasnt in great form at all (and probably a bit 'worried' about the situation and my 'performance') I don't regret at all my money!Actually thats my 2nd time here. The girls are not clean. I don't recommend BBBJ and be sure to use condoms and bring your own ones (might be too small for you.)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Yeah, don't follow touts to the places they are touting...but they actually can be friendly guides if you let them know that you're a real hobbyist who knows the business...not just a tourist or rookie monger. [/QUOTE]I'm going to disagree slightly. I've used touts to take me to stores with great success. I generally ignore them though as I almost always have a place I want to go to. The only problem is that you have to be specific with what you want. You have to say I want this service with this kind of girl. They'll do their best to help. However those free information places are far better at that. Those Muryou Annaijou places.If it's past the last train though, I might go up to a tout and tell him I'm looking for some play with a Japanese girl for example. I've been helped out a number of times that way.
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[QUOTE=Backtobasics]I can't make head or tail of the options on the System page - could someone kindly summarize?[/QUOTE] The whole SP 1, SP 2 thing is rather cryptic. Here's how I understand it. SP1 - One shot on goal2do nuki - One shot on goal with some non-goal action after.SP 2 - Two shots on goalThe reading of the last one escapes me, but it means unlimited shots on goal.Courses:40 Min short course 6000 yen, one shot on goal and non scoring play after60 Min basic course 7500 yen, up to two shots on goal80 Min long course 12,000 yen, up to two shots on goal100 Min long course 17,000 yen, unlimited shots on goal80 Min W course 13,000 yen, two shots, girls switch60 Min Harem course 14,000 yen, two shots, probably two girls simultaneouslyThe last two are overnight courses, one starting at 2 am, and the other starting at midnight. Unlimited shots, of course.Hope this helps, and I hope someone can give a clearer definition of the whole SP 1, SP 2 thing, and correct me if I'm wrong.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]The whole SP 1, SP 2 thing is rather cryptic. Here's how I understand it.SP (?. Special seikan) is generally used as a cryptic euphemism for full service by some estes. The codes used are basically:SP1: one full service shot2 nuki: one full service shot, then one hand service shotSP2: two full service shotsSpecial seikan: as many full service shots as you can manageEach of the courses (40 minutes, 60 minutes, etc.) show what you are allowed to do during the allotted time (red color OK, gray not OK).Hope that helps!
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[QUOTE=Captain Yonoi]If you research far back enough, there is a report from a guy who got crabs after a visit there. Yes, to each his own, the price can't be beat, 100% gaijin friendly but the place is filthy.[/QUOTE]I guess you're talking about me. I did get crabs, but I definitely don't think it was from there. On that trip I fucked (2) full bush J-girls in Tobita in Osaka , then back to Tokyo..went to Jan-Jan about 3 times, Hinomaru once, and had an session with a dominatrix in a Kabukicho love motel where I ended up on the dirty floor. I theoretically could have caught them at any of those places, but *Tobita* is the most likely since that's the only place where I had that kind of contact. Moral of the story: Go to Jan Jan. It's great and the deal can't be beat. If I was in Tokyo, I'd be at Jan Jan tonight. If you are worried, take a cloth and put it under you to ward off anything.Next time back, all my hobbying yen will go to Jan Jan for BBBJ, and to Milkybaby and the domina service for kink. I am staying away from anything hairy on a J-girl.
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Thanks to both of you. Google Translate choked on the SP stuff, but you have both made it very to me (and others).[QUOTE=Muku1][QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]The whole SP 1, SP 2 thing is rather cryptic. Here's how I understand it.SP (?. Special seikan) is generally used as a cryptic euphemism for full service by some estes. The codes used are basically:SP1: one full service shot2 nuki: one full service shot, then one hand service shotSP2: two full service shotsSpecial seikan: as many full service shots as you can manageEach of the courses (40 minutes, 60 minutes, etc.) show what you are allowed to do during the allotted time (red color OK, gray not OK).Hope that helps![/QUOTE]
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Otsuka Korean Este
Yesterday, on my way home from the airport I stopped off for a massage in Otsuka. I had a really long week in the states, due to a family emergency, with almost no time to myself, late nights and little sleep. I was beat after a long day of travel and I just wanted some relaxation. As I was transferring at Otsuka anyway, I decided to pop out for a massage. I walked to the north east of the station and went into one of the many Korean massage places. I opted for the 70min ?12,000 akasuri course as I'd never tried it before. I was told I could switch girls for an extra ?1,000 - the price of choosing in person (本指名). The girl who I was given, however, was cute enough although kind of chubby, maybe a 6, but since I wasn't really looking for anything but a good massage, I didn't care.She started out with some massage on the table - laughing and swatting my hand away whenever I touched her ass or titties. Then she took me into the shower room, laid me out on a table and scrubbed me all over with a sort of abrasive glove. After that she washed me down and played with my cock a bit. Then she said let's go finish in the other room. She took me back to the first room laid me down, gave me a bit of a rubdown and then told me to wait while she took a shower. She came back into the room in a towel, took it off and climbed onto the massage bed with me. She rubbed her tits and her paipan pussy all over me and started to play with my cock. I asked if I could eat her pussy and she lay down on the bed. I ate her pussy until I was pretty horny then lubed it up for some sumata. I hadn't touched a girl all week, so I came pretty fast. But she wanted to get me off again, so she lay me on my back and started stroking my cock. Once she got it hard again, she started really going to work on it. She climbed on for some 69. Since I was taking a long time, we went for some FS. After I blew my load a second time, she took me back into the shower and washed me off. Then she gave me a hard massage for the last few minutes of my time, reminding me over and over again not to say anything and that honban is a no go. Slept like a baby, happy to be back in Japan.
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For those who read Japanese
Some of the mongering vocab that you may not find in the standard dictionaries:[url]http://www.dch.jp/top/dictionary.html[/url]
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Xslikx,Do you have the name or site of the Otsuka one? It it Trinity?
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Janjan
Avoid Rui in JanJan she looks hot in the dark but up close she is like 50.Besides the one time I was with her she gave me Hepatitis.Since then I keep having flare ups
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Std
Wow - it seems you have bad luck - either getting chlamydia by BJ or Hep (A?, B?, C?) First off - its very difficult to get chlamydia by oral sex unless the chick is blowing you with cum from the last infected dick still in her mouth and the bacteria not yet succumbed to death by saliva.Secondly - I'd strongly suggest to any monger to make sure their Hep shots and boosters are up to date. Thats just common sense - and will serve well in Asia anyway as its a general cesspool everywhere. Staff never wash properly, food work areas are not santizied, etc. More likely you got Hep from eating Sushi or the local Ramen shop. [QUOTE=Mgz1234]Avoid Rui in JanJan she looks hot in the dark but up close she is like 50.Besides the one time I was with her she gave me Hepatitis.Since then I keep having flare ups[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ginger 3443]Xslikx,Do you have the name or site of the Otsuka one? It it Trinity?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't know. The only Trinity I know is in Iidabashi. The place I went to in Otsuka is in the section to the north west of the station. It's above the BJ place called Sweets towards the end of the red light area (which, by the way, told me no gaijin are allowed). There are a ton of Korean places around here, all of which will take gaijin.
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[QUOTE=Soujourn]Wow - it seems you have bad luck - either getting chlamydia by BJ or Hep (A?, B?, C?) First off - its very difficult to get chlamydia by oral sex unless the chick is blowing you with cum from the last infected dick still in her mouth and the bacteria not yet succumbed to death by saliva.[/QUOTE]Actually there is always one or two posters here (and on other boards about the Tokyo Pink scene) who say this non-sense. Basically I think these people are affiliated with the other high priced, gaijin rip off places and they believe that by posting negative or say that they got a disease there then the people reading it will most likely migrate over to the over priced places. If you read this posters previous posts (and others like him) usually in the post history they are giving rave reviews about one of the other shops. Take it all with a grain of salt. Ive been to Jan Jan at least 20 times, never had an issue and always get a BBBJ with CIM.
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Change in Policy
[QUOTE=Xslikx]Prices range from 4,000 to 6,000, depending on the time of day, which is more than JanJan but comparable to most pink salons. The places that I went to were in roughly these locations (which you can enter into Google Maps):Gaijin providers:(35.69575239971124, 139.81140285730362)A BJ alley, J-girl providers:(35.69512069201174, 139.81567561626434)[/QUOTE]XSlikx,I walked around for an hour but could not find the Gaijin BJ providers from the Google map. Some people told me it was across the main road in front of the station, others said on the same side. Anyway, I gave up.I did manage to find the BJ alley but it is not gaijin friendly anymore. One of the touts told me that it used to be but the policy was changed about 6 months ago. He asked me to wait outside while he went in and double checked.I was offered all kinds of FS in the area from 10k for Chinese to 15-20k for J-girls.OAH
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Maria Ozawa doing Deri-Heru
Hello fellas, long time lurker here. Not adding a report as I have been out of the loop with the working ladies in the city. However, I came across the following on another site:Famed JAV actress Maria Ozawa (half-Japanese, half-Canadian) is now doing delivery health. Anyone else heard of this? Anyone willing to take one for the team? I'm considering it (assuming she or the agency allows gaijin clients).Site in Japanese: [url]http://www.tora-ana.jp/detail.php?sn=393[/url]Sumimasen, if this is a repost.
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Tokyo trip
To everyone on the board. Thanks for your comments. I had my first trip to Tokyo and the information gleaned from this board was incredibly helpful. I have to say that this is NOT the easiest city to find things in and obviously a working knowledge of Japanese would go a long way. When I return, I will have to study harder to get more phases. I am half-Japanese so that helps initially but my lack of effective communication inhibits a lot of play time.First off, went to Super Girls. Definitely NOT gaijin friendly at present as has been noted in the past. I tried to talk to the tout who was polite but stated "Japanese only". I think I would have made it past if I could speak more.Decided to try to find Manohra for and Oily Thai massage. Despite what appeared to be pretty good directions, I wasn't able to find it at all (It's suppose to be on the Yaesu side of Tokyo station. After 30-45 minutes of just walking around and looking at address, I think I found the building but I couldn't find the actually establishment. In the place where Manohra was supposed to be there was an aromatherapy place. I went up to investigate and they were very nice. Two Japanese women were on. I paid for the 60 minute oil (7000 yen) and got a truly wonderful massage. I extended for another 30 minutes and ended up having a wonderfully relaxing HR. The masseuse was seemining reluctant to do it encouraging "self service" but in the end she delivered a great assist! After the massage was done, they offered me iced tea and I tried to improve my Japanese with them. I wasn't too successful but they were very nice about it (and I had the place to myself on a Saturday night!).After I left I went over to Shinjuku and to Kabukicho looking for Hinomaru. I wandered around again until a tout from Senegal stopped me to try to go to his club. I asked him about Hinomaru and surprisingly, he walked me through the Kabukicho area, stopping and asking the other touts where the club was. He delivered me to the club and the doorman was extremely friendly and there were no problems with my being gaijin. Had a wonderful BBBJCIM from a chunky but nice Japanese girls who really did a nice job trying to make me feel comfortable for 4K. I would highly recommend this place, however, I'm afraid I couldn't explain the directions. After this episode, the tout was waiting for me and I guess since he was so nice, I wandered to his club (club paradise or something like that) which was a hostess bar. He assured me all sort of things that of course didn't happen so I left after having dropped another 4K to visit the club. I should have followed everyone's advice but that's how it goes sometime.Leaving in the morning but will look forward to coming back. Thanks again to everyone for helping this monger out.LD[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Price?
[QUOTE=Jpn Dude]Hello fellas, long time lurker here. Not adding a report as I have been out of the loop with the working ladies in the city. However, I came across the following on another site:Famed JAV actress Maria Ozawa (half-Japanese, half-Canadian) is now doing delivery health. Anyone else heard of this? Anyone willing to take one for the team? I'm considering it (assuming she or the agency allows gaijin clients).Site in Japanese: [url]http://www.tora-ana.jp/detail.php?sn=393[/url]Sumimasen, if this is a repost.[/QUOTE]Jpn Dude,Did you enquire about the price and gaijins? I would consider it myself.OAH
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Jpn Dude,Did you enquire about the price and gaijins? I would consider it myself.OAH[/QUOTE]A quick look over the 'system' page, it looks like they aren't even publishing her price since she's 'diamond' level. It also looks like porn star Yoko, who has done some fine uncensored AV work, is providing at the same place:[url]http://www.tora-ana.jp/detail.php?sn=322[/url]Her rates, as 'platinum', *ARE* published- 35K Yen for an hour. Pretty cheap for a porn star.
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Market Price
I'd be curious to hear what the "diamond" rates are. One could estimate the rates to be around 45,000 yen? [QUOTE=Meiji]A quick look over the 'system' page, it looks like they aren't even publishing her price since she's 'diamond' level. It also looks like porn star Yoko, who has done some fine uncensored AV work, is providing at the same place:[url]http://www.tora-ana.jp/detail.php?sn=322[/url]Her rates, as 'platinum', *ARE* published- 35K Yen for an hour. Pretty cheap for a porn star.[/QUOTE]
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Old News
[QUOTE=Jpn Dude]Famed JAV actress Maria Ozawa (half-Japanese, half-Canadian) is now doing delivery health.[/QUOTE]This has been reported on ([url]http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2009/11/14/maria-ozawa-other-acclaimed-av-actresses-on-auction-as-stagnation-sticks/[/url]). Given the strict conditions noted here for locals to have a shot at MO guess what our chances are?[QUOTE][i]A source says that once an asking price of 150,000 yen for 70 minutes with the actress appeared on the club?s Web page a flood of roughly 200 inquiries soon followed.[/i][/QUOTE]Not that there would be any harm in trying.By the way, Tora No Ana is one of the deli-heru's that have been on my radar for a while. I mean to eventually try it, but until now Shinagawa Komachi and its sister shops have been enough. Anyone who goes for it let us know your results.ES
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150,000 yen
[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]This has been reported on ([url]http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2009/11/14/maria-ozawa-other-acclaimed-av-actresses-on-auction-as-stagnation-sticks/[/url]). Given the strict conditions noted here for locals to have a shot at MO guess what our chances are?Not that there would be any harm in trying.By the way, Tora No Ana is one of the deli-heru's that have been on my radar for a while. I mean to eventually try it, but until now Shinagawa Komachi and its sister shops have been enough. Anyone who goes for it let us know your results.ES[/QUOTE]ES,I have only done a porn star once in New York. She was not a real famous star but did have quite a few starring roles under her belt. It cost me 1,000 US$ + 100 US$ to use a credit card for 2 hours. This was several years ago. I am sure prices have gone up.IMHO, there is no way that us normal mongers have a shot at MO. She can be and will be very selective about her clientele if it is not a scam and she is available at all.MO and her fame aside, I wonder where a non-Japanese speaking, gaijin, monger can get that same quality level. In my experience, I haven't seen/done anything close to that hot at AM, Club Boo or Nasty Dolls, for example. Do any of these deli-heru with top quality girls accept gaijin at all?Just my POV.OAH
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]ES, I wonder where a non-Japanese speaking, gaijin, monger can get that same quality level. In my experience, I haven't seen/done anything close to that hot at AM, Club Boo or Nasty Dolls, for example. Do any of these deli-heru with top quality girls accept gaijin at all?Just my POV.OAH[/QUOTE]Here is a list of girls all over Japan that have done AV work and are available for takeout. I would guess the over 30 would be likely to say yes to most paying customers, gaijin or not. Some superhot 20-somethings maybe less likely, but then again the are AV stars, not girls trying to make ends meet with a little evening DH work.Still, I expect you should have a fat wallet for the FS charge that will no doubt come.[url]http://dh-jiten.com/galList/b3-11/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Lion]Here is a list of girls all over Japan that have done AV work and are available for takeout. I would guess the over 30 would be likely to say yes to most paying customers, gaijin or not. Some superhot 20-somethings maybe less likely, but then again the are AV stars, not girls trying to make ends meet with a little evening DH work.Still, I expect you should have a fat wallet for the FS charge that will no doubt come.[url]http://dh-jiten.com/galList/b3-11/[/url][/QUOTE]How much does it cost to call AV stars?THe pink bikini one looks very hot.
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I talked to a tencho a few days ago at a hotel health in Shibuya. It was a slow time and he didn't mind chatting. I asked him about gaijin and he said there are a number of considerations. First, he said many of the ladies don't like us because we take too long, whereas most Japanese men finish their business quickly and move one. Gaijin tend to take their time and seem to be trying to prolong things while Japanese men are just going in to shoot their load and be done. Any spare time is left for chatting. I think many foreigners believe it is a macho thing to last a long time. In this business, you're trouble, you wear out the equipment, you cost valuable time and you create an uncertainty as to whether or not you'll finish. I think most of us can identify with this characteristic. Second, it's the language and reputation issue. Many foreigners have caused problems due to misunderstanding of the system, etc. Many have limited Japanese skills which makes explaining difficult or impossible. My Japanese is not great so I asked him about mine. He said mine is fine. Basically, you need what I call mid-level Japanese which means you don't need to be fluent in terms of conversation but you do need to be fluent in terms of understanding what is being said. He said that is an absolute requirement. You don't need to read kanji but you need to understand the rules. Third, he said we should not come around during busy times. It's just plain bad for business. This is common sense. Choose afternoons or mornings if they are open. Don't go at 9:00PM, for instance. Fourth, he said to come alone or with a Japanese friend. Do not come in with other foreigners. Put yourself in his place and I think this is easy to understand. It's intimidating and scary for him and his reaction is going to be to tell you all to go away.This pertains to hotel healths only in Tokyo. A regular health is a much tougher nut to crack in my experience, virtually impossible in some areas like Yokohama. I would be curious if anyone has had success with a health in Yokohama.
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[QUOTE=Homer69]I talked to a tencho a few days ago at a hotel health in Shibuya. It was a slow time and he didn't mind chatting. I asked him about gaijin and he said there are a number of considerations. First, he said many of the ladies don't like us because we take too long, whereas most Japanese men finish their business quickly and move one. Gaijin tend to take their time and seem to be trying to prolong things while Japanese men are just going in to shoot their load and be done. Any spare time is left for chatting. I think many foreigners believe it is a macho thing to last a long time. In this business, you're trouble, you wear out the equipment, you cost valuable time and you create an uncertainty as to whether or not you'll finish. [/QUOTE]Homer,You make some very good points. Unfortunately, cultural differences can make it very hard for Westerners mongering in Japan. In the West having a big dick and fucking for a long time before busting a nut is supposed to impress women. Manliness is measured in dick size and stamina. Japanese women with small pussies don't want to be worn out by a Western dick doped up on Viagra. They are not impressed by attempts at marathon fucking sessions. They appreciate men who just fuck and shoot their load within five to ten minutes. Poking their tight pussies as quickly as possible is seen as being considerate while rooting away for a long while is seen as being abusive.
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My POV
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]ES,I have only done a porn star once in New York. She was not a real famous star but did have quite a few starring roles under her belt. It cost me 1,000 US$ + 100 US$ to use a credit card for 2 hours. This was several years ago. I am sure prices have gone up.IMHO, there is no way that us normal mongers have a shot at MO. She can be and will be very selective about her clientele if it is not a scam and she is available at all.MO and her fame aside, I wonder where a non-Japanese speaking, gaijin, monger can get that same quality level. In my experience, I haven't seen/done anything close to that hot at AM, Club Boo or Nasty Dolls, for example. Do any of these deli-heru with top quality girls accept gaijin at all?Just my POV.OAH[/QUOTE]I have had good luck at Shinagawa Komachi and its sister shops:[url]http://www.s-komachi.jp/[/url][url]http://www.sw-sp.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-hana.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-chaya.jp/[/url]Many of these girls are gravure/AV-level hot, and some are even gravure girls e.g. Aira ([url]http://www.s-komachi.jp/profile_513.html[/url]) who I've had several times. I am a non-Asian foreigner but my Japanese is fluent. I have never gotten The Question over the phone ("お客様、外人さんですか?") although it is not 100% clear this is because they don't realize I am a foreigner or because they don't care. The great thing is, once you phone in an appointment and complete it successfully once, they recognize your number on subsequent calls and the level of due diligence on their part falls considerably. You can even schedule subsequent appointments via the web, further reducing the risk of getting caught out as a non-Japanese over the phone.I just noticed that you are asking from the POV of a non-Japanese speaking foreigner... unfortunately I think you have three chances: slim, none, and SOL. Sorry about that. As you can see in the article I linked to in my last post, it's not easy or cheap even for the locals.By the way, I happened to meet and fuck an ex-porn star on Japan Cupid. Her actress persona was 成瀬 雛 ([url]http://actress.douhou.com/actress/7404.html[/url]). In the end not really my type, plus she was mad as a hatter.ES
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My experiences totally contradict you. I'll leave it at that.[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Homer,You make some very good points. Unfortunately, cultural differences can make it very hard for Westerners mongering in Japan. In the West having a big dick and fucking for a long time before busting a nut is supposed to impress women. Manliness is measured in dick size and stamina. Japanese women with small pussies don't want to be worn out by a Western dick doped up on Viagra. They are not impressed by attempts at marathon fucking sessions. They appreciate men who just fuck and shoot their load within five to ten minutes. Poking their tight pussies as quickly as possible is seen as being considerate while rooting away for a long while is seen as being abusive.[/QUOTE]
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Fame surcharge
[QUOTE=Lion]Here is a list of girls all over Japan that have done AV work and are available for takeout. I would guess the over 30 would be likely to say yes to most paying customers, gaijin or not. Some superhot 20-somethings maybe less likely, but then again the are AV stars, not girls trying to make ends meet with a little evening DH work.Still, I expect you should have a fat wallet for the FS charge that will no doubt come.[url]http://dh-jiten.com/galList/b3-11/[/url][/QUOTE]Lion,Thanks for the list. I am not necessarily interested in AV stars that can charge more for fame. I am interested in normal WGs of the same quality e.g. 8-10 range. IMHO, what is available from the gaijin friendly outcall providers (AM, Club Boo, Nasty Dolls) is only in the 5-7 range. Are there any 8-10s available for gaijins without paying crazy prices?OAH
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Homer,You make some very good points. Unfortunately, cultural differences can make it very hard for Westerners mongering in Japan. In the West having a big dick and fucking for a long time before busting a nut is supposed to impress women. Manliness is measured in dick size and stamina. Japanese women with small pussies don't want to be worn out by a Western dick doped up on Viagra. They are not impressed by attempts at marathon fucking sessions. They appreciate men who just fuck and shoot their load within five to ten minutes. Poking their tight pussies as quickly as possible is seen as being considerate while rooting away for a long while is seen as being abusive.[/QUOTE]I agree with what you wrote, with the caveat that the "short time" preference is much more common in working girls than in non-professional relationships. And I think this preference is common across cultures and borders. As the humorous (and accurate) old joke goes: "What's the difference between a hooker, a mistress, and a wife? The hooker says, 'will you finish soon?' the mistress says, 'what you finished already?' and the wife says, 'Yellow. I think I'll paint the ceiling yellow!'"
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Hinomaru
Went by Hinomaru today, thanks to all for the directions and recommendation.It's a little difficult to find, best advice I can give is find Seibu-Shinjuku station as that is on all the local maps then with your back to it looking at the main road walk left, walk a few hundred yards and you will see a kabukicho entrance with a red arched sign above the road, if you can see McDonalds down to the left you are looking the right direction.Walk down all the way to the end where you can either go left or right, you should see the Koban on the leftish, go right, then walk about 1 minute until you see a building with a white sign on the front that says "Ninja in New YOrk" 5F, its on the side of that building with a Japanese sign (White letters on Red) with a Japanese flag on the top of the sign.So anyway, went in paid Y4000 for 20 minutes, I spoke Japanese and asked if foreigners were ok and got a dozo. So went up the stairs, not offered a choice of girls, paid at the window and sat down.One other gaijin getting service, then Miu, think that was her name, arrived OK looking but probably late 30s, early 40s, she took her top down and left the dress around her waist then cleaned me up and got down to business. Excellent technique while I slipped my hand into her panties and she slowly built up until she got me off in about 15 minutes.She asked me to wait while she went to get cleaned up, but I got ready and was ready to go then, though if my Japanese was better I could have stayed for a chat a bit longer. She walked me to the door which was a nice touch then off I went.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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My 2 cents
[QUOTE=Evan Stoner] I am a non-Asian foreigner but my Japanese is fluent. I have never gotten The Question over the phone ("お客様、外人さんですか?") although it is not 100% clear this is because they don't realize I am a foreigner or because they don't care. The great thing is, once you phone in an appointment and complete it successfully once, they recognize your number on subsequent calls and the level of due diligence on their part falls considerably. You can even schedule subsequent appointments via the web, further reducing the risk of getting caught out as a non-Japanese over the phone.[/QUOTE]IMHO, I think too much emphasis is placed on language ability. I understand that guys that have mastered the Japanese language are very proud of it. Without pointing any fingers, I sense that bravado in some of the posts here e.g. "I am accepted but you are not." That said, I am nearly fluent in two other Asian languages but I always encourage those without language skills to go for it in those countries. They can usually manage to get laid with a pen and paper and some body language.[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]I just noticed that you are asking from the POV of a non-Japanese speaking foreigner... unfortunately I think you have three chances: slim, none, and SOL. Sorry about that. As you can see in the article I linked to in my last post, it's not easy or cheap even for the locals.[/QUOTE]IMHO, I believe the underlying reason for "Japanese Only" is primarily discrimination, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with language, "understanding the system." or big dongs and long sessions. Most Japanese men do not want their girls done by gaijin. And, when a WG has enough Japanese business, why challenge this. The older, less attractive gals have less choice. When my Japanese business associates take me out, it is nearly always a Filipina, Chinese or European girls club. Almost never a Japanese club. Telltale signs to support my theory.The same applies to a lesser extent in other Asian countries. Korea is virtually the same as Japan; China is somewhat more tolerant. On the other hand, Thailand and Philippines are nearly completely tolerant, altough there are still small segments of those markets that are still off limits to foreigners.Just my POV.OAH
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]IMHO, I think too much emphasis is placed on language ability. I understand that guys that have mastered the Japanese language are very proud of it. Without pointing any fingers, I sense that bravado in some of the posts here e.g. "I am accepted but you are not." That said, I am nearly fluent in two other Asian languages but I always encourage those without language skills to go for it in those countries. They can usually manage to get laid with a pen and paper and some body language.IMHO, I believe the underlying reason for "Japanese Only" is primarily discrimination, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with language, "understanding the system." or big dongs and long sessions. Most Japanese men do not want their girls done by gaijin. And, when a WG has enough Japanese business, why challenge this. The older, less attractive gals have less choice. When my Japanese business associates take me out, it is nearly always a Filipina, Chinese or European girls club. Almost never a Japanese club. Telltale signs to support my theory.[/QUOTE]While there are a lot of things that OAH says that I agree with, I think that the picture has some subtle, but important, differences.It is worth noting that in living memory (although that living memory is quickly fading), there was a time in Japanese history when the majority of servicing that was going on was of American servicemen, and not Japanese. This must have been a huge blow to the Japanese collective psyche (no pun intended), because prior to that, they were an island people who had never had their island invaded. As a professor of mine liked to say, "if you take a people and shut them away from the world for 250 years and browbeat them by despots, they are bound to grow up strange." Simply dismissing it as prejudice is overly simplistic.There certainly is some element of boasting to the "I speak Japanese and you don't" mentality, but I think that it also addresses the fact that the Japanese see themselves not only as unique, but uniquely unique, and hence the shut off a lot of their culture to outsiders. There are some areas of Japanese culture that a foreigner will never be allowed to penetrate (again, unintentional pun), but I can tell you from personal experience that there is a feeling of accomplishment in getting "in the club." And this feeling extends far beyond P4P. Japan is a large "members only" club, and I am quite sure that fact is a large part of its appeal.
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]IMHO, I believe the underlying reason for "Japanese Only" is primarily discrimination, plain and simple.[/QUOTE]Basically I agree. What I am saying is the slim chance a fluent-Japanese foreigner has of getting one of these high-demand girls is basically reduced to nil for someone who has no language ability. It's not simply a matter of making yourself understood; it's also a matter of getting the shop to believe that because you know the language pretty well, you might also understand the culture a little bit and be able to follow the rules.ES
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I always encourage those without language skills to go for it[/QUOTE]So do I -- see my posts on nampa. No one here is saying don't try (well, some are, but they seem mostly concerned that a certain element might 'ruin it for the rest of us' -- with some cause for such concern). Most of the guys sending the message that language ability is an asset in this game are trying to be helpful. If it sounds like boasting, well in some cases it probably is, but generally it's simply a reflection of the facts of the situation. Deal with it or, if you can't, perhaps it's time to hit the books?ES
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[QUOTE=Homer69]I talked to a tencho a few days ago at a hotel health in Shibuya. [/QUOTE]Should I assume that hotel health is not the spa in a hotel?
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[QUOTE=Homer69]This pertains to hotel healths only in Tokyo. A regular health is a much tougher nut to crack in my experience, virtually impossible in some areas like Yokohama. I would be curious if anyone has had success with a health in Yokohama.[/QUOTE]I think this has a lot to do with the visibility factor. When you go in for a regular health you'll be seen by Japanese customers either waiting for service or entering a room to get service. With hotel health on the other hand you're less likely to be seen by Japanese customers.I've tried a few and the only regular health I was able to enter was ucla little bear in ikebukuro. Other ones simply say no gaijin. This one time I went with a Japanese friend to shibuya and we tried to get into a few. First one said no and wouldn't budge. Second one said no initially, then my friend said I was half-Japanese (my Japanese is fluent) so the tencho said OK. But there was only one girl available (it was around 8-9am). Funny thing is the tencho had dyed blonde hair and blue contacts. He looked more gaijin than me. Eventually we ended up in a hotel health where again tencho said no gaijin, my friend again whipped up the "he's half" line, and tencho was OK with that.Probably won't work for a gaijin alone. But if you're fluent and coming with a Japanese friend at an off-hour I have a feeling saying you're half will get you into a lot of places. Don't abuse this.
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[QUOTE=Pita123]Should I assume that hotel health is not the spa in a hotel?[/QUOTE]No, it's not the spa in the hotel. They can be found almost anywhere where you can find regular fuzoku establishments. It's a type of store where they send you to a hotel room with a girl. Generally, you wait around until they call you, then they introduce you to the girl and you walk to the hotel room together. However it's not uncommon to be given directions to the hotel, and after checking in, they'll send the girl to you. The latter type is invariably requires the ability to speak Japanese, obviously because they have to be able to give you directions to the hotel.
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They have enough English on the site to suggest they might accept Japanese-speaking foreigners. She speaks English, so once she turned up at least you'd have no problem. I'd bet she'd go for 50,000 or more per hour, though. Probably more like jyu-man, about 1,200 AUS$. Maybe more? Not cheap, but it would be something to remember.The question is, is this for real?[QUOTE=Jpn Dude]Hello fellas, long time lurker here. Not adding a report as I have been out of the loop with the working ladies in the city. However, I came across the following on another site:Famed JAV actress Maria Ozawa (half-Japanese, half-Canadian) is now doing delivery health. Anyone else heard of this? Anyone willing to take one for the team? I'm considering it (assuming she or the agency allows gaijin clients).Site in Japanese: [url]http://www.tora-ana.jp/detail.php?sn=393[/url]Sumimasen, if this is a repost.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Oki Guy 09]Went by Hinomaru today, thanks to all for the directions and recommendation.It's a little difficult to find, best advice I can give is find Seibu-Shinjuku station as that is on all the local maps then with your back to it looking at the main road walk left, walk a few hundred yards and you will see a kabukicho entrance with a red arched sign above the road, if you can see McDonalds down to the left you are looking the right direction.Walk down all the way to the end where you can either go left or right, you should see the Koban on the leftish, go right, then walk about 1 minute until you see a building with a white sign on the front that says "Ninja in New YOrk" 5F, its on the side of that building with a Japanese sign (White letters on Red) with a Japanese flag on the top of the sign.So anyway, went in paid Y4000 for 20 minutes, I spoke Japanese and asked if foreigners were ok and got a dozo. So went up the stairs, not offered a choice of girls, paid at the window and sat down.One other gaijin getting service, then Miu, think that was her name, arrived OK looking but probably late 30s, early 40s, she took her top down and left the dress around her waist then cleaned me up and got down to business. Excellent technique while I slipped my hand into her panties and she slowly built up until she got me off in about 15 minutes.She asked me to wait while she went to get cleaned up, but I got ready and was ready to go then, though if my Japanese was better I could have stayed for a chat a bit longer. She walked me to the door which was a nice touch then off I went.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Hey man, I think we saw each other over there yesterday. Glad you like it. It was my first time there. Tenchu insisted me to go with the 40mins 8k yen. Maybe I look too much like japanese. But I still go with the 4k. Chatted with the girl a little bit.
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I have not mastered Japanese but I can get by. The bravado you're pointing out is real but the requirement for Japanese ability is also real. Basically, if you can't understand the rules your chances of success are greatly reduced, usually approaching zero. For instance, I can't read menus very well at these places. I study the website before going but I'm at a severe disadvantage if they give me a menu in kanji. Hiragana and Katakana are no problem but Kanji is difficult and my writing is pretty terrible if they give me a clipboard to fill out. DH is totally off-limits for me, I just don't have the conversational skills to pull it off over the phone. I usually have a Japanese drinking buddy do the calling for me in this case.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]IMHO, I think too much emphasis is placed on language ability. I understand that guys that have mastered the Japanese language are very proud of it. Without pointing any fingers, I sense that bravado in some of the posts here e.g. "I am accepted but you are not." That said, I am nearly fluent in two other Asian languages but I always encourage those without language skills to go for it in those countries. They can usually manage to get laid with a pen and paper and some body language.OAH[/QUOTE]
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I'm a very persistent guy when it comes to getting in at a Japanese health. I'm not talking about a Chinese esute which will usually take anyone. Before my Japanese got better, I tried and tried and tried some more and then I tried and tried again. I had an extremely high failure rate at the time. One reason is that I couldn't speak basic Japanese in a confident manner. Limited success would drive me on and as my Japanese got better my success rate got higher. I quickly figured out that night time mongering during busy periods is also a losing proposition. Most of my success (and the free time I have) is on an early afternoon on weekends. After about 4:30 or so it starts getting busy and prospects become less and less. If I were to count up my failures vs successes I would probably estimate 50:1 (for new Japanese places I've inquired at). In the old days, I would go to NK and try at least 30-40 Japanese healths and fail. I could always go to a Chinese place but that was not what I was looking for. I can usually have a 10:1 success rate now (on new places I've not tried) because I can read the websites and usually figure out if there is any chance of success before I try. This take a great deal of perseverance and frustration to overcome. It's not easy but I enjoy the challenge, especially if I'm not that horny and can take it or leave it.The key is, when I find a place is to establish myself, at least until the management changes and I'm refused service. That means getting a membership or point card and not losing it. It means slipping out quickly after saying goodbye and going along with the program. It's a lot of hassle but I find it worthwhile.[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]So do I -- see my posts on nampa. No one here is saying don't try (well, some are, but they seem mostly concerned that a certain element might 'ruin it for the rest of us' -- with some cause for such concern). Most of the guys sending the message that language ability is an asset in this game are trying to be helpful. If it sounds like boasting, well in some cases it probably is, but generally it's simply a reflection of the facts of the situation. Deal with it or, if you can't, perhaps it's time to hit the books?ES[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Homer69]I have not mastered Japanese but I can get by. The bravado you're pointing out is real but the requirement for Japanese ability is also real. Basically, if you can't understand the rules your chances of success are greatly reduced, usually approaching zero. For instance, I can't read menus very well at these places. I study the website before going but I'm at a severe disadvantage if they give me a menu in kanji. Hiragana and Katakana are no problem but Kanji is difficult and my writing is pretty terrible if they give me a clipboard to fill out. DH is totally off-limits for me, I just don't have the conversational skills to pull it off over the phone. I usually have a Japanese drinking buddy do the calling for me in this case.[/QUOTE]I'll agree with his statement. I probably am a bit on the arrogant side since I have a decent success rate, but I am going to agree, your success rate goes up as your Japanese goes up. I can't tell you how many places have sat me down and tossed some rather difficult Japanese at me to make sure I knew Japanese and not just a few key phrases. Now, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try, but there are many places that will reject you simply for logistical reasons. As for Homer's seemingly low success rate, well, I don't have a rejection rate quite that low. I can usually find a place that will service me in about 3 to 4 tries. However, part of the reason is that I will usually ask for some help being pointed in the right direction. There have been several instances where the store actually made a few calls and then had an employee walk me over to the store. Obviously most stores aren't this nice, and I've had a few incidents where they were practically pushing me out the front. If the stores don't help me, there might be a few touts that will. Granted with touts you need to be careful. There are many horror stories with them.
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]IMHO, I think too much emphasis is placed on language ability. I understand that guys that have mastered the Japanese language are very proud of it. Without pointing any fingers, I sense that bravado in some of the posts here e.g. "I am accepted but you are not." That said, I am nearly fluent in two other Asian languages but I always encourage those without language skills to go for it in those countries. They can usually manage to get laid with a pen and paper and some body language.[/QUOTE]The number of establishments that provide in house services is shrinking and a lot are hotel health or delivery health. A lot of places now do not advertise an office but tell you to call from the station and they direct you to the office and then a love hotel or directly to love hotel. You then have to phone and let them know where you are and the room number. I'm no good on the phone in either English or Japanese :(Of course if you can just walk into a in house parlour then that's different then generally good social skills might win out, but in my experience less common these days.
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The language issue
Well said! For the businessmen, newcomer and the short term visitor to Japan, I feel for you. When I first came to japan, I spoke not a lick of Japanese which left me few options. It was either try to pick up English speaking girls in gaijin bars, as the other foreign hyenas circled close by, salivating over the same prey. Or, it was calling up the safe options like AM, which was sometimes ok, but was usually expensive. But being bold and taking a few risks can pay off - hit different bars, talk to girls on the street, walk into more places, enlist a Japanese friend. Maybe you can get him to claim he represents you, a famous diplomat/rock star/F1 driver, to get Maria Ozawa to visit your room!For the guys resident here who can't speak J-go, just a bit of conversation practice opens new doors. I just took an hour lesson every week in a language school, and in 6 months I could order girls over the phone and had picked up a couple of girls who couldn't speak any English. Not to mention I became able to live properly in this country and take control of my life. I enjoyed my lessons I can now read most everyday things short of a newspaper. Point is, yeah I'm proud I can now speak Japanese - I won't ever be one of the Japan club and don't want to be, but I can now plunder more of their natural resources! Time to go back to school?[QUOTE=Homer69]I have not mastered Japanese but I can get by. The bravado you're pointing out is real but the requirement for Japanese ability is also real. Basically, if you can't understand the rules your chances of success are greatly reduced, usually approaching zero. For instance, I can't read menus very well at these places. I study the website before going but I'm at a severe disadvantage if they give me a menu in kanji. Hiragana and Katakana are no problem but Kanji is difficult and my writing is pretty terrible if they give me a clipboard to fill out. DH is totally off-limits for me, I just don't have the conversational skills to pull it off over the phone. I usually have a Japanese drinking buddy do the calling for me in this case.[/QUOTE]
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My low rates for for Japanese healths only. These are the highest class places that are licensed and the ladies have regular medical examinations. The prices reflect this and are usually something like Y14000 for 40 minutes. They are nothing like esute which are not licensed and the ladies are not checked out regularly. For me, these are an extremely nut to crack, but not so tough as the soaps in Kawasaki where I am 0:100000. I don't know what it is but I have had no luck there and don't even waste time trying anymore. Ditto for the healths in Kawasaki. I've only had success at esute and the booths when they were open in Kawasaki.[QUOTE=Zcorps]As for Homer's seemingly low success rate, well, I don't have a rejection rate quite that low. I can usually find a place that will service me in about 3 to 4 tries. However, part of the reason is that I will usually ask for some help being pointed in the right direction. There have been several instances where the store actually made a few calls and then had an employee walk me over to the store. Obviously most stores aren't this nice, and I've had a few incidents where they were practically pushing me out the front. If the stores don't help me, there might be a few touts that will. Granted with touts you need to be careful. There are many horror stories with them.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]So do I -- see my posts on nampa. No one here is saying don't try (well, some are, but they seem mostly concerned that a certain element might 'ruin it for the rest of us' -- with some cause for such concern). Most of the guys sending the message that language ability is an asset in this game are trying to be helpful. If it sounds like boasting, well in some cases it probably is, but generally it's simply a reflection of the facts of the situation. Deal with it or, if you can't, perhaps it's time to hit the books?ES[/QUOTE]ES,Although I would love to learn Japanese for my business, I don't find it absolutely necessary since I do not live in Japan. I only visit 6-7 times a year. That said, I have learned the languages in the Asian countries I have lived in; Thailand and China.From a mongering perspective, it seems that even with the language ability, hit rates are still quite low and frustration quite high.I have tried most of the gaijin friendly places usually posted on this forum, AM, Club Boo, Nasty Dolls outcall, Jan Jan in Sugamo, New York, New York, Champs Elyse in Ueno, Kawasaki booths when they were going, Tobita in Osaka and a couple other soaps and Pink Salons in various places, etc. And, I've had my share of Nampa. I have never managed DH. I tried to get a Japanese friend to call a couple for me one time without success.My dilemna is that when I look at some of the websites that are not usually gaijin friendly, I realize that what I am getting is the "bottom of the barrel" so to speak. For example, guys here rave about AM. Don't get me wrong, I have always (with one exception) had good service from pleasant girls but IMHO the girls are 5-7 at best. And, the pictures always look better than the real thing. I remember one girl that must have gained at least 20 lbs. For 35,000, I reckon I should do better than that. What I would like to hear is some advice from the resident mongers here where I can get better quality for similar money without having to learn Japanese. From the websites that have been posted here, I can manage to tell the prices without Japanese. Most are cheaper than the gaijin friendly providers for younger, better looking girls. It does not have to be an AV star. I don't care about the fame. I don't care if they can speak English.Are you guys telling me that it is absolutely impossible without speaking the language? OAHP.S. I am only interested in J-girls. I have access to others in my travels. I always find that the quality and service is better on their home turf.
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What happened?
A Japanese customer of mine is always telling me that "many years ago" he used to take all his foreign suppliers to Kawasaki to get laid.OAH
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Visit Japan for the first time
I'm headed for Japan for layover. I'll be there for 20 hours and was wondering if anyone can recommend a place. I am an asian but don't speak or read japanese. thus, I'm not even sure how to communicate with japanese speaking people. thus, if there is anyone that can recommend anything, that would be for the best.
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I always to go Kawasaki alone. My friends won't go there. They still think it's the dirty place it was during the Bubble. I am sure if I had a Japanese friend go with me it would not be so much of a problem. My hit rate in Yoshiwara is pretty decent, albeit at a much higher price. It's the same thing (soapland) with the same polite touts out front but there is just no luck when I go by myself to Kawasaki.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]A Japanese customer of mine is always telling me that "many years ago" he used to take all his foreign suppliers to Kawasaki to get laid.OAH[/QUOTE]With learning the language you also learn the nuance of the cultural norms expected. This is often more important. You learn about when and how to use very polite Japanese. I found when I used normal Japanese I had a high failure rate. When I started using polite Japanese my rate went up. My main problem is with Healths. To me, they are at the top of the food chain in terms of quality of Japanese ladies and choice. They are strictly get-em-in-get-em-out operations (hence, the short session times and relatively high price) and are often smoky and a little dirty but the quality of the ladies is pretty good.Regarding looking at websites, I have spent many hundreds of hours doing this sort of prep work. I don't just head out to Shimbashi or Okachimachi unarmed. I have a list and a plan. For instance, in Okachimachi where the density is very high I can hit 30 places in an hour or less. They are all clustered together in two main areas, some of them clustered in the same building.Most of the time, I have a plan for failure, using ending in a bath at Champs with an older woman who I've already vetted or I head across town for a painful massage at Asian Feeling. Both provide relief at the end which is often good enough after the frustration of rejection. Note that this is a time-consuming proposition and I usually burn 3 hours on a Saturday afternoon doing this sort of activity.I think a lot of guys here just want the magic bullet. Cheap FS with a young, cute Japanese lady. Well, let me tell you, that doesn't exist anywhere, especially if you don't have much Japanese skill.Cheap FS with a not so young, average looking Chinese lady is available, easily and conveniently, usually with minimal or no Japanese skill.Figure it out. CB and AM provide almost what you are looking for but at a steep price. They can command that price because you can't speak Japanese. You are basically paying for an invisible interpreter, who happens to be built into the tencho and lady. If you needed an invisible interpreter to accompany you, how much would you have to pay that person to work for you? CB and AM are simply providing this invisible interpreter. I would figure 1-man to 1.5-man for this service if I hired a professional interpreter.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]ES,From a mongering perspective, it seems that even with the language ability, hit rates are still quite low and frustration quite high.I have tried most of the gaijin friendly places usually posted on this forum, AM, Club Boo, Nasty Dolls outcall, Jan Jan in Sugamo, New York, New York, Champs Elyse in Ueno, Kawasaki booths when they were going, Tobita in Osaka and a couple other soaps and Pink Salons in various places, etc. And, I've had my share of Nampa. I have never managed DH. I tried to get a Japanese friend to call a couple for me one time without success.My dilemna is that when I look at some of the websites that are not usually gaijin friendly, I realize that what I am getting is the "bottom of the barrel" so to speak. For example, guys here rave about AM. Don't get me wrong, I have always (with one exception) had good service from pleasant girls but IMHO the girls are 5-7 at best. And, the pictures always look better than the real thing. I remember one girl that must have gained at least 20 lbs. For 35,000, I reckon I should do better than that. What I would like to hear is some advice from the resident mongers here where I can get better quality for similar money without having to learn Japanese. From the websites that have been posted here, I can manage to tell the prices without Japanese. Most are cheaper than the gaijin friendly providers for younger, better looking girls. It does not have to be an AV star. I don't care about the fame. I don't care if they can speak English.Are you guys telling me that it is absolutely impossible without speaking the language? OAHP.S. I am only interested in J-girls. I have access to others in my travels. I always find that the quality and service is better on their home turf.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Homer69]My low rates for for Japanese healths only. These are the highest class places that are licensed and the ladies have regular medical examinations. The prices reflect this and are usually something like Y14000 for 40 minutes [/QUOTE]I'm shooting for the same places. I've only been in a Chinese Estute a few times, and that was when I was figuring out these places.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Are you guys telling me that it is absolutely impossible without speaking the language? [/QUOTE]A quick run through of what I've gotten in Japan. The cheapest FS from a Japanese girl I've ever gotten was 16,000 yen for an hour. She was young, but was a 6 at best, more likely a 5 actually (dim lighting). This came with a hotel room and there was no upselling at all.The cheapest FS I've gotten from a top quality Japanese girl is 20,000 yen for 80 minutes. Normally you have to pay a nomination fee of 2000, but you can get out of that in various ways. Also there was a hotel room fee of 2000 yen (provided through the store), but this can be dropped if the store has a special, or possibly some sort of time service. Anyways the total damage is about 20,000 to 24,000 yen for 80 minutes. Again, no up selling.You can find stores with similar price models to the ones above almost anywhere in major cities, but I have never been to one where they didn't confirm I spoke Japanese. I'm not going to say you can't find a place similar to these that will also take in non-Japanese speaking foreigners, but I have never been to one. Honestly though, you'll have better chances in the nampa scene.Again, that's not to say it's impossible as a monger to find top-quality girls, but at this point we're talking about high-quality soaps which cost quite a bit.
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Impossible
Gentlemen,Thanks for the feedback. I guess I can make the assumption that it is impossible for me to find high quality, younger, J-girls.Kawasaki: I managed one soapland there. A tout called me in and showed me pictures. There was one girl only that would accept gaijin. I asked about the others and he kept saying no and pointing to the one picture. I paid 15k for 50 minutes. Last time I was there, most of the booths with the Koreans, Chinese, Thai girls were closed. Have they reopened?Chinese estutes: I live in China so I am not interested. Most of the Chinese girls I see in Japan would not be able to get any customers in China or would be standing in front of a hovel for 30 RMB ST (400 JPY). There may be better quality available but I have not looked that much.Prices for J-girls: The cheapest FS I've had is 11k for 15 minutes in Tobita. The most expensive is AM at 35k for 2 hours. BTW, I pay 5k per hour for an interpreter. Nampa: I have had limited success at this, but it takes time which I do not always have and often it is difficult for me to plan ahead.Soaplands: So where are these "high-quality soaps that cost quite a bit"? How much are we talking about?OAH
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Ever since NK got shutdown, it is very difficult to get FS from a Japanese lady without going to a soapland which is going to be quite expensive. It's not difficult because of a lack of Japanese skill, either, it's just plain difficult even for native Japanese to get cheap FS with a young attractive lady.Young, cute Japanese ladies do not consider themselves hardcore prostitutes (i.e. offering FS). Offering FS to them is hardcore prostitution and mostly illegal except for at soaps because of the way the law is written.Come to think about it, I can't think of anywhere you can get cheap FS from a young, cute Japanese lady. It really doesn't exist. Perhaps the soaps in Kawasaki or Yokohama (Y15K-Y20K, if you call that cheap) but those are mostly closed off to all but native Japanese.I talked to a Japanese friend about this. He doesn't know anywhere he can go and pay for this. He told me to work on my nampa.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Gentlemen,Thanks for the feedback. I guess I can make the assumption that it is impossible for me to find high quality, younger, J-girls.Kawasaki: I managed one soapland there. A tout called me in and showed me pictures. There was one girl only that would accept gaijin. I asked about the others and he kept saying no and pointing to the one picture. I paid 15k for 50 minutes. Last time I was there, most of the booths with the Koreans, Chinese, Thai girls were closed. Have they reopened?Chinese estutes: I live in China so I am not interested. Most of the Chinese girls I see in Japan would not be able to get any customers in China or would be standing in front of a hovel for 30 RMB ST (400 JPY). There may be better quality available but I have not looked that much.Prices for J-girls: The cheapest FS I've had is 11k for 15 minutes in Tobita. The most expensive is AM at 35k for 2 hours. BTW, I pay 5k per hour for an interpreter. Nampa: I have had limited success at this, but it takes time which I do not always have and often it is difficult for me to plan ahead.Soaplands: So where are these "high-quality soaps that cost quite a bit"? How much are we talking about?OAH[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Homer69]Young, cute Japanese ladies do not consider themselves hardcore prostitutes (i.e. offering FS). Offering FS to them is hardcore prostitution and mostly illegal except for at soaps because of the way the law is written.[/QUOTE]Small point: FS for pay is illegal everywhere in Japan, including in soaps. The difference with soaps is that the girls who work there are technically independent contractors who are just contracting the space and purchasing supplies from the soapland. Therefore if the cops come in and bust the joint, the owners have a legal argument to hide behind. Of course the reality, which is a larger issue, is that the legal code really doesn't mean anything in Japan, because it is interpreted and applied based on the actors involved. As someone smarter than me once said, "Japan is a country of customs, not laws." So FS has been illegal since April 1, 1958, but the reality is that soaplands are allowed to offer FS, and others aren't for complex and convoluted reasons that have no bearing on the law.
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[QUOTE=Smith Ed]Hey man, I think we saw each other over there yesterday. Glad you like it. It was my first time there. Tenchu insisted me to go with the 40mins 8k yen. Maybe I look too much like japanese. But I still go with the 4k. Chatted with the girl a little bit.[/QUOTE]That's funny. I was there the same day too! (seriously)
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[QUOTE=Ozboy]They have enough English on the site to suggest they might accept Japanese-speaking foreigners. She speaks English, so once she turned up at least you'd have no problem. I'd bet she'd go for 50,000 or more per hour, though. Probably more like jyu-man, about 1,200 AUS$. Maybe more? Not cheap, but it would be something to remember.The question is, is this for real?[/QUOTE]I called them up a few days ago. I speak fluent Japanese, but after only a few sentences the guy figured out that I wasn't Japanese and gave me the whole "Sorry, no foreigners" bit.So, you'd have to have a pocket full of cash and REALLY good Japanese to even have a shot at this.
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Cheap?
[QUOTE=Homer69]Come to think about it, I can't think of anywhere you can get cheap FS from a young, cute Japanese lady. It really doesn't exist. Perhaps the soaps in Kawasaki or Yokohama (Y15K-Y20K, if you call that cheap) but those are mostly closed off to all but native Japanese. [/QUOTE]Homer69,Where did you guys get the idea that I wanted cheap FS? I am willing to pay the going price if it is available.OAH
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Homer69,Where did you guys get the idea that I wanted cheap FS? I am willing to pay the going price if it is available.OAH[/QUOTE][url]http://www.y-playgirl.net[/url][url]http://www.y-tokubetu.net[/url]These are two soaps that will take in foreigners (it says so in their FAQ). Their prices say 20,000 each, but you multiply that by 3 to get the the real price and then you add another 10,000 for the Gaijin service fee. The total comes out to 70,000 yen for 100 minutes, you might get them to toss the Gaijin fee though, but that's up to you. Not cheap by any means, but these girls are probably the girls you're looking for. I'd recommend tokubetsu over playgirl though, but only because I haven't been to playgirl, but I've been to tokubetsu many times and the girls always looked stunning.Now, a quick note, I'm sure there are cheaper soaps that will take non-Japanese speaking foreigners that ALSO have the girls you want. It's just a matter of footwork.
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[QUOTE=Zcorps][url]http://www.y-playgirl.net[/url][url]http://www.y-tokubetu.net[/url]These are two soaps that will take in foreigners (it says so in their FAQ). [/QUOTE]Just a point. Tokubetsu on their website specifically says that they DON'T take foreign customers. Glad to hear you have gotten past that barrier.From their FAQ. Q5.外国の方の利用は可能でしょうか? ご利用頂けません。
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I'm a little late to this party, but I wanted to chime in a bit.[QUOTE=Homer69]I asked him about gaijin and he said there are a number of considerations. First, he said many of the ladies don't like us because we take too long, whereas most Japanese men finish their business quickly and move one....[/QUOTE]I have chatted up numerous tencho/mamasan, and triple that amount of girls over the years. Of course, the information tends to vary across the board depending on who I talk to, but compiling everything together this is what I've found.The main reason why we foreigners get turned away is because we attract too much attention. The sex industry operates under a very precarious balance with law enforcement - don't make waves, and we'll look the other way. We foreigners attract attention simply because we are foreign. And while shops don't know about the ISG specifically, they have a general idea that if they begin regularly accepting foreigners that quite a few will turn up.So if foreigners start frequenting a shop in decent number, that brings attention to the shop, and the police would have to step in. Your occasional 10,000 yen isn't worth the risk of getting closed down.Then after that, its the communication problem, and fear that you don't know the system. If you cause problems, there's no way to settle it, and it again risks bringing attention to the shop. The girls do put themselves in a vulnerable position every time they are with a customer, and you not being able to communicate with them just makes them extra nervous. The risks outweigh the potential benefits.Then there is the stamina issue. But this is really mostly for the girls, the tencho don't really care as long as the girl can continue to work. They are a lot stronger than most people give them credit for (after all, this is their profession) but if you are a big guy and have lots of stamina then that can cause problems.And then after that there's the stuff like racism, STD fear, et al.The key is to show them that you are very low risk. They're not above taking your money if they feel safe about it. Japanese language ability helps a lot of course, but I have seen a guy navigate an area where I only have about 10% success ratio, with about 60% success or better. He didn't say a word, he just let everyone there know that he knew what was up - no need to worry about him, just take his money.I've been thinking about writing up a small p4p guide for a few months, maybe I should?
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Just a point. Tokubetsu on their website specifically says that they DON'T take foreign customers. Glad to hear you have gotten past that barrier.From their FAQ. Q5.外国の方の利用は可能でしょうか? ご利用頂けません。[/QUOTE]They must have changed their policy since I last went there. I went there about 3 months ago, so they must have changed their policy during that time. That or I've been reading that wrong the whole time, but the former seems more likely as a few others on this forum have also been there.
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[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I've been thinking about writing up a small p4p guide for a few months, maybe I should?[/QUOTE]You should. (thumbs up)
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Question?
[QUOTE=Zcorps][url]http://www.y-playgirl.net[/url][url]http://www.y-tokubetu.net[/url]These are two soaps that will take in foreigners (it says so in their FAQ). Their prices say 20,000 each, but you multiply that by 3 to get the the real price and then you add another 10,000 for the Gaijin service fee. The total comes out to 70,000 yen for 100 minutes, you might get them to toss the Gaijin fee though, but that's up to you. Not cheap by any means, but these girls are probably the girls you're looking for. I'd recommend tokubetsu over playgirl though, but only because I haven't been to playgirl, but I've been to tokubetsu many times and the girls always looked stunning.Now, a quick note, I'm sure there are cheaper soaps that will take non-Japanese speaking foreigners that ALSO have the girls you want. It's just a matter of footwork.[/QUOTE]Zcorps,Thanks for the recommendations. I noted the following English comment on Playgirl's website:*The visitor of the foreigner comes back to the index page, and please watch deficit guidance.Do you know what it means? I could not find any index page.Also, what do you get for the 20k basic charge for 110 minutes?"OAH
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Makes sense
[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I'm a little late to this party, but I wanted to chime in a bit.I have chatted up numerous tencho/mamasan, and triple that amount of girls over the years. Of course, the information tends to vary across the board depending on who I talk to, but compiling everything together this is what I've found.The main reason why we foreigners get turned away is because we attract too much attention. The sex industry operates under a very precarious balance with law enforcement - don't make waves, and we'll look the other way. We foreigners attract attention simply because we are foreign. And while shops don't know about the ISG specifically, they have a general idea that if they begin regularly accepting foreigners that quite a few will turn up.So if foreigners start frequenting a shop in decent number, that brings attention to the shop, and the police would have to step in. Your occasional 10,000 yen isn't worth the risk of getting closed down.Then after that, its the communication problem, and fear that you don't know the system. If you cause problems, there's no way to settle it, and it again risks bringing attention to the shop. The girls do put themselves in a vulnerable position every time they are with a customer, and you not being able to communicate with them just makes them extra nervous. The risks outweigh the potential benefits.Then there is the stamina issue. But this is really mostly for the girls, the tencho don't really care as long as the girl can continue to work. They are a lot stronger than most people give them credit for (after all, this is their profession) but if you are a big guy and have lots of stamina then that can cause problems.And then after that there's the stuff like racism, STD fear, et al.The key is to show them that you are very low risk. They're not above taking your money if they feel safe about it. Japanese language ability helps a lot of course, but I have seen a guy navigate an area where I only have about 10% success ratio, with about 60% success or better. He didn't say a word, he just let everyone there know that he knew what was up - no need to worry about him, just take his money.I've been thinking about writing up a small p4p guide for a few months, maybe I should?[/QUOTE]Azure Knight,This is a good summation of the rationale in China, as well, except the language is not a big issue. They could care less if you can communicate. If there were any trouble, a couple of thugs would show up fast to show you the way out. That said, racism also plays a big part. Many local Chinese punters don't like to do girls that do foreigners so it can affect their business if it gets out of hand.Just my POV.OAH
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Zcorps,Thanks for the recommendations. I noted the following English comment on Playgirl's website:*The visitor of the foreigner comes back to the index page, and please watch deficit guidance.Do you know what it means? I could not find any index page.Also, what do you get for the 20k basic charge for 110 minutes?"OAH[/QUOTE]It's not 20k, it's 70k. The basic fee is the room rental or something, another 20k for the girl directly, another 20k for something else, and 10k for the Gaijin fee. Japanese people pay 60k for this service fyi. You get FS for this price. First it starts out with a mandatory bath, then they'll probably give you a smokejob. Then some mat play, the girls covers you and her in a thick lube, and she starts massaging you with her body and than transitions into another bj followed by some covered FS. After that you'll probably get more FS if you can manage it. If you search red tube for japanese massage, you're basically getting that. It's a unique experience for sure.I just noticed, playgirl has an "English" site. [url]http://www.y-playgirl.net/e/[/url] It's really a crappy English site, but there it is. Lists some basic information you need. Considering that crappy English page, you should be able to get in no problem.
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Homer69,Where did you guys get the idea that I wanted cheap FS? I am willing to pay the going price if it is available.OAH[/QUOTE]I got it from the quote that follows. It sounded like you were looking for something cheap. If the most expensive you've found is 35K then that sounds cheap. To get a top flight young cute Japanese lady you're probably going to have to go to a soap and pay double that.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Gentlemen,Prices for J-girls: The cheapest FS I've had is 11k for 15 minutes in Tobita. The most expensive is AM at 35k for 2 hours. BTW, I pay 5k per hour for an interpreter. OAH[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I am only interested in J-girls. I have access to others in my travels. I always find that the quality and service is better on their home turf.[/QUOTE]Have you gone to Shibuya Grimpeur yet?[url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/[/url]They will limit your choices as a foreigner, but even then, they are usually very good. I tried Rina today:[url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?action=girlprofile&id=1112[/url]She is better looking than her pictures, and I am a picky bastard. Here are my ratings for 45 min:Looks: 9.5 (pretty face, great T&A, perfect skin - from Hokkaido)Service: 7Technique: 8English: a little bitTotal: 14.5k (13k - 1k discount + 2.5k hotel)Repeat? ProbablyShe would not do FS - I tried nicely twice, but her BBBJ was pretty good. A nice, typical Shibuya-type girl who is into fashion and music. Like posted many times before, Grimpeur is a crap shoot - sometimes, you get FS, sometimes you don't. But if you want a real Japanese girl with almost no chance of rejection as a foreigner, this is a good bet. She will finish with sumata or if you prefer, have your way with her (almost anything but FS or DFK) depending on the girl.When talking to the guy at the counter, you will usually need to know some very basic Japanese, at least enough to convince him that you understand the basic rules. I think they get a lot of business from foreigners. After the first time, you will get a member's card, which will make subsequent times easier. GL.BTW, Tobita is GREAT - I wish they had something like that here in Tokyo.
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[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Have you gone to Shibuya Grimpeur yet?[url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/[/url]They will limit your choices as a foreigner, but even then, they are usually very good. I tried Rina today:[url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?action=girlprofile&id=1112[/url]She is better looking than her pictures, and I am a picky bastard. Here are my ratings for 45 min:[/QUOTE]She looks better in person? WOW!
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[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Have you gone to Shibuya Grimpeur yet?[url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/[/url]They will limit your choices as a foreigner, but even then, they are usually very good. I tried Rina today:[url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/index.php?action=girlprofile&id=1112[/url]She is better looking than her pictures, and I am a picky bastard. Here are my ratings for 45 min:Looks: 9. 5 (pretty face, great T&A, perfect skin. From Hokkaido)Service: 7Technique: 8English: a little bitTotal: 14. 5k (13k. 1k discount + 2. 5k hotel)Repeat? ProbablyShe would not do FS. I tried nicely twice, but her BBBJ was pretty good. A nice, typical Shibuya-type girl who is into fashion and music. Like posted many times before, Grimpeur is a crap shoot. Sometimes, you get FS, sometimes you don't. But if you want a real Japanese girl with almost no chance of rejection as a foreigner, this is a good bet. She will finish with sumata or if you prefer, have your way with her (almost anything but FS or DFK) depending on the girl.When talking to the guy at the counter, you will usually need to know some very basic Japanese, at least enough to convince him that you understand the basic rules. I think they get a lot of business from foreigners. After the first time, you will get a member's card, which will make subsequent times easier. GL.BTW, Tobita is GREAT. I wish they had something like that here in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the report and I frequent this place too. Is her pussy shaved or trimmed?
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Asian Mystique - Asuka ?
Hi,I searched the Forum, but did not found any feedback about Asuka from AM.So I would like to ask if there is any experience with her?Thanks for the feedback!Nemics
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Small point: FS for pay is illegal everywhere in Japan, including in soaps. The difference with soaps is that the girls who work there are technically independent contractors who are just contracting the space and purchasing supplies from the soapland. Therefore if the cops come in and bust the joint, the owners have a legal argument to hide behind. Of course the reality, which is a larger issue, is that the legal code really doesn't mean anything in Japan, because it is interpreted and applied based on the actors involved. As someone smarter than me once said, "Japan is a country of customs, not laws." So FS has been illegal since April 1, 1958, but the reality is that soaplands are allowed to offer FS, and others aren't for complex and convoluted reasons that have no bearing on the law.[/QUOTE]In a follow up to this point. In the RLDs of Osaka all of the shops are technically licensed as 'restaurants' where you have to pay a base fee of 11,000 for 15min, which is posted on the walls near the genkan and in the rooms. Inside the rooms, they have a little hand-written list of prices that give the rates for 20min, 30min and so on. The girls bring you a little tray of snacks, tea and an o-shibori. I don't think there is any pretext of the girls renting out the rooms. Everybody knows what's going on, and the cops in the nearby kobans just make sure that everyone is behaving themselves. After all, those areas have been brothel districts since before there was an anti-prostitution law and nobody in south Osaka gives a shit about what the laws in Tokyo say about how they ought to be conducting themselves.
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Trinity Closed?
I was thinking of going to Trinity today. The website is 403 and it appears as though they have closed. Too bad.
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Getting clearer
Gentlemen,I appreciate all your feedbacks, suggestions and recommedations. I am starting to get the picture. I apologize if I am asking too many ignorant questions. Unfortunately, I have not had the luxury of spending as much time on the ground as many of you that live in Japan and speak the language have. Time contraints usually force me to seek out the "sure things" such as AM, Jan Jan, New York, New York and the like.As I see it, the system is very complicated. Correct me if I am wrong, but to an outsider, it looks like this is intentional either to get around the law and/or to scam the patrons. Most Japanese are non-confrontational thus the operators can probably get away with it. This is usually not the case with gaijin so the operators want to avoid any hassles or misunderstandings. It is too difficut to explain 20k for this, 20k for that, 3k for BBBJ, 2k to pick the girl, 10k because you are gaijin, etc. Most gaijin resent being charged more just because they are a gaijin. This applies to everything wherever they travel. Some gaijin get pissed off and create a scene, I have learned to just walk away and look elsewhere.The websites are confusing even when I use a translation site since a lot of it is slang and does not translate literally. Some seem to quote for a FS package while others have all the add ons. This is probably why the Playgirls's English site just says 70k for everything. It is much simpler and more palatable for gaijin to deal with.As Azure Knight suggested, if somebody could post a "Gaijin's Guide to Mongering in Japan", that would be fantastic. SammyT's comprehensive guide for Beijing on the China board is a very good example. Also, if somebody could supply Jackson with definitions of local acronyms and abbreviations, he could add them to the Abbreviations link.Just my POV.OAH
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Very bad Hono-bono experience!!!
I had a plan since long to try out Hono-bono. And a few days ago I finally got a chance. I booked over the phone (in japanese) and my choice was Wakame. On the website she looks like my type of girl. I know of course that they edit the photos and the girls never look like the ones on the photo. But maybe I was to naive or just didn't realize what they can do with Photoshop nowadays but in no way I was prepared for what I got when I opened the door. I was totally shocked. She has at least 30 pounds more and she looks to say it in a nice way, not pretty. Lot's of tattos (which is not a problem) but she also smells bad! I guess she is a heavy smoker. We did some foreplay anyway but after maybe 20 minutes I just couldn't bare it any more and I complained of a headache and finished the session. I had some experiences in Tokyo and been to AM and UCLA, but Hono-bono is by far the worst experience I ever had and I just warn everyone to use them.Now I realize also why they accept foreigners and handicapped. I am pretty sure they don't get normal japanese customers otherwise and they believe foreigners don't complain.Next time I will go with grimpeur, ND or AM again. UCLA is also not bad but never ever again HB.
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Gentlemen,As I see it, the system is very complicated. Correct me if I am wrong, but to an outsider, it looks like this is intentional either to get around the law and/or to scam the patrons. Most Japanese are non-confrontational thus the operators can probably get away with it. This is usually not the case with gaijin so the operators want to avoid any hassles or misunderstandings. It is too difficut to explain 20k for this, 20k for that, 3k for BBBJ, 2k to pick the girl, 10k because you are gaijin, etc. Most gaijin resent being charged more just because they are a gaijin. This applies to everything wherever they travel. Some gaijin get pissed off and create a scene, I have learned to just walk away and look elsewhere.OAH[/QUOTE]IMO, I am less likely to be scammed in Japan than elsewhere in asia. The web sites clearly indicate the prices and services, just not in English.
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The language thing is a little more complicated. Mostly, if you've taken the time and trouble to learn the language you've probably also taken the time and trouble to understand the cultural norms. Some dumbass foreigners haven't done this and those people do pose a problem. These dumbasses are very few in number.I find many long time residents who don't really know Japanese very well to be in the same shape as an infrequent visitor who knows very little Japanese. The shops are just playing percentages by accepting Japanese who speak the language. It's a risk for them but they need the business. During the Bubble years they did not need our business so it was extremely difficult to get service back then.In general, foreigners get rejected because we are bad for business. If we were good for business, such as checking into a 5-star hotel where the staff speaks English and where they are used to foreigners then we have no trouble getting a room. Additionally, we are considered acceptable in these places so Japanese customers don't shy away because we foreigners may have stayed in the room before them. If you try to check into a very small business hotel in an obscure area way out in the suburbs you may have a little more trouble, both with the language and their racism. They may not want to rent you a room because you don't understand the system and other Japanese customers may not like the fact that we make a little more noise, take showers in the morning and other things that are outside of Japanese norms. The same goes for fuuzoku places. If we are bad for business then we are rejected. If we are not bad for business (I can't think of a case where we are good for business other than providing a less than optimal revenue source) then we may get service. It's as simple as that.If you consider Chinese esute, the downside of accepting us is far less. The Japanese clientele is going to expect a Chinese place to accept foreigners and it may or may not affect their willingness to go to a cheap Chinese esute.The bottom line is for us to not take it personally. It's just a business. It does have racism built into it but everywhere on the planet has a certain amount of local racism and it can't be avoided.You get service at AM because they are geared for foreigners and probably don't even have Japanese customers. You get service at NYNY because the quality of the lady is extremely low by Japanese standards and no Japanese guy below the age of 30 would even consider going there because he can get a better lady from a hitoduma (housewife) place so there isn't much risk in having foreigners there. You absolutely will not a get a young, cute Japanese lady at NYNY so their target customer is far different from the places we always get rejected from.The system is not complicated at all. If you don't have language skills then you need to delete a certain number of places from your pool. If you are of a certain ethnicity (some places don't like blacks, some don't like Chinese, some don't like Korean, some don't like Middle Easterners, etc., each for whatever reason) then you have to cut back further. What you are left with is often very slim pickings. As others have said, you can always find a Chinese esute for a reasonable price but you said you're not interested in that.If your budget can afford it then you should stick to high end soaps that service foreigners. The service is almost always superb and the ladies are almost always at least moderately attractive.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Gentlemen,I appreciate all your feedbacks, suggestions and recommedations. I am starting to get the picture. I apologize if I am asking too many ignorant questions. Unfortunately, I have not had the luxury of spending as much time on the ground as many of you that live in Japan and speak the language have. Time contraints usually force me to seek out the "sure things" such as AM, Jan Jan, New York, New York and the like.As I see it, the system is very complicated. Correct me if I am wrong, but to an outsider, it looks like this is intentional either to get around the law and/or to scam the patrons. Most Japanese are non-confrontational thus the operators can probably get away with it. This is usually not the case with gaijin so the operators want to avoid any hassles or misunderstandings. It is too difficut to explain 20k for this, 20k for that, 3k for BBBJ, 2k to pick the girl, 10k because you are gaijin, etc. Most gaijin resent being charged more just because they are a gaijin. This applies to everything wherever they travel. Some gaijin get pissed off and create a scene, I have learned to just walk away and look elsewhere.The websites are confusing even when I use a translation site since a lot of it is slang and does not translate literally. Some seem to quote for a FS package while others have all the add ons. This is probably why the Playgirls's English site just says 70k for everything. It is much simpler and more palatable for gaijin to deal with.As Azure Knight suggested, if somebody could post a "Gaijin's Guide to Mongering in Japan", that would be fantastic. SammyT's comprehensive guide for Beijing on the China board is a very good example. Also, if somebody could supply Jackson with definitions of local acronyms and abbreviations, he could add them to the Abbreviations link.Just my POV.OAH[/QUOTE]
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Have you gone to Shibuya Grimpeur yet?BTW, Tobita is GREAT - I wish they had something like that here in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Nakameguro97,Thanks for the tip. I've not tried it yet but I am staying in the Shibuya area next month. I've read mixed reports about the place but I will give it a go and hope for the best. I assume because FS is not on the menu it is not possible to ask at the counter if a girl provides it?I enjoy Tobita a lot too although my hit rate can be very low, between 5-30% depending on the time of day I am there. The earlier the better. That said, nearly all the hottest girls are usually off limits even though I get lucky from time to time.OAH
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[QUOTE=Homer69]The language thing is a little more complicated. Mostly, if you've taken the time and trouble to learn the language you've probably also taken the time and trouble to understand the cultural norms. Some dumbass foreigners haven't done this and those people do pose a problem. These dumbasses are very few in number.[/QUOTE]After many years of traveling to and doing business in Japan, even having worked for a Japanese/American JV, although not based in Japan, I have learned something about Japanese cultural norms even though I do not speak Japanese.[QUOTE=Homer69] If you consider Chinese esute, the downside of accepting us is far less. The Japanese clientele is going to expect a Chinese place to accept foreigners and it may or may not affect their willingness to go to a cheap Chinese esute.As others have said, you can always find a Chinese esute for a reasonable price but you said you're not interested in that. [/QUOTE]I invite you guys to visit me in China where I would be honored to show you the ropes. You can have top quality, 8-9 level girls overnight for what you are paying for an hour with a 5-6 at best in Tokyo. Or, the same quality will provide 18 steps of total bliss for 2 solid hours in a high-end sauna for the same money. 5-7 quality is as cheap as 2k ST, even for gaijin. And, even then, the service will still be better than you get in the Chinese estute. And, you do not need to speak a word of Chinese for any of it.[QUOTE=Homer69] If your budget can afford it then you should stick to high end soaps that service foreigners. The service is almost always superb and the ladies are almost always at least moderately attractive.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, my budget cannot afford 70k+ for lunch everyday but I am willing to try it out a few times to see if it is worth it. The most expensive soap I have been to was 20k. I like to have a balance. Sometimes I spoil myself with the top end whilst other times going for the down and dirty at the low end.OAH
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Thailand et al
[QUOTE=Zcorps]You get FS for this price. First it starts out with a mandatory bath, then they'll probably give you a smokejob. Then some mat play, the girls covers you and her in a thick lube, and she starts massaging you with her body and than transitions into another bj followed by some covered FS. After that you'll probably get more FS if you can manage it. If you search red tube for japanese massage, you're basically getting that. It's a unique experience for sure.[/QUOTE]Zcorps,Thanks for the clarification. Sounds pretty close to a Thai MP, "B Course" as they call it minus the thick lube. Same type of service is available in most of Asia with a slightly different spin to it.Just my POV.OAH
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[QUOTE=Nemics]Hi,I searched the Forum, but did not found any feedback about Asuka from AM.So I would like to ask if there is any experience with her?Thanks for the feedback!Nemics[/QUOTE]There are some positive reports on her on Tokyo Pink Guide.
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HB-Wakame
Ronin 7788I think you just happened to make a bad choice of Wakame. That particular photo of her has been posted for a long time, so it may be that she has put on the extra poundage since it was taken. I notice she regularly works the late night shift so, and a lot of them, so the stress of doing that probably has affected her living habits.I have tried HB only one time and that particular girl showed up with more extra padding than the photo, but she was also on a heavy work schedule and has since left.So you might reconsider HB....watch the site on a daily basis and observe the girls who don't work that often. They might be your best bet because they are fresher and less stressed. I check in on the site almost every day just for fun.Jam and Rika look interesting to me. I wonder if anyone has tried either.
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Personally, as a foreigner I would not ask for FS. The code is AF, but then you may get one that doesn't do FS and will insist on AF.Grimpeur is hit or miss because many of the best ladies will not take foreigners. It is a legal (as far as I know) hotel health now so that means its licensed and FS is not part of the offering. If you get FS its going to have to be between you and the lady.[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Nakameguro97,Thanks for the tip. I've not tried it yet but I am staying in the Shibuya area next month. I've read mixed reports about the place but I will give it a go and hope for the best. I assume because FS is not on the menu it is not possible to ask at the counter if a girl provides it?I enjoy Tobita a lot too although my hit rate can be very low, between 5-30% depending on the time of day I am there. The earlier the better. That said, nearly all the hottest girls are usually off limits even though I get lucky from time to time.OAH[/QUOTE]
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Where in China? Who are the best (most knowledgeable, most practical, etc.) ISG references in the Shanghai and Beijing forums (besides yourself)?[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand] I invite you guys to visit me in China where I would be honored to show you the ropes. You can have top quality, 8-9 level girls overnight for what you are paying for an hour with a 5-6 at best in Tokyo. Or, the same quality will provide 18 steps of total bliss for 2 solid hours in a high-end sauna for the same money. 5-7 quality is as cheap as 2k ST, even for gaijin. And, even then, the service will still be better than you get in the Chinese estute. And, you do not need to speak a word of Chinese for any of it.OAH[/QUOTE]
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Okay - most of this message is directed towards OAH, but posted for the benefit of all.1. In general, Japanese as a society, is a little "system-crazy". There are rules and conventions for everything. This includes the various types of fuzoku. There are special pricing conventions for soap, hotel health, pink salons, delivery health, massage-with-finish, etc... FS is illegal, and almost always, the counter will deny and insist no FS. Sometimes, this is really the case, and they will deny you service if you ask about FS. In others, not. With Shibuya Grimpeur, I have read on ISG that the guy at the counter actually told him who provided AF, but YMMV. It is safest to consult with ISG or someone who has used that particular service. As for Grimpeur, the default hotel is a dump, and the service is random, but for the price you pay, it is cheap to have a chance at a hottie. IMHO, sumata is not bad at all, so for me at least, FS is not so important here - I just want a young Japanese hottie when I go there. With all the services in Japan, the more conditions you insist on, the more expensive it gets and the more research you have to do to find a place that satisfies all your conditions. There are many foreigners who live here who still have to compromise in one way or another. I agree with you that most of the systems are unnecessarily complicated, but it is what it is.To me, the hit-or-miss is not that foreigners get a worse choice - foreigners will only get the ones where the girl doesn't mind being with a foreigner. There are still good ones to be had. The hit-or-miss is in the quality of service and whether you end up with FS or not.2. In general, pricing in Japan is crazy relative to most other places. In terms of value, I'd much rather go to certain areas in the South of China rather than spend my money in Tokyo. However, there are exceptions. In particular, I like some higher level pink salons and some legitimate massage-with-finish places, which probably have no comparison elsewhere, in terms of service. My personal measure is, do I feel like I got ripped off after the service? If you've never tried soap, it's good to try it once, but I think for most people, unless you are very wealthy or inexperienced mongering, will experience monger's regret at paying outrageous sums of cash. I know OAH is experienced so maybe he'd try it once or twice, but I am certain he would compare versus his experiences elsewhere.3. WRT Tobita, I have never met you, OAH, but I am rather certain that your hit rate there should be much higher. Japanese tend to be very appearance-oriented, even more so in Tokyo than in Osaka. The general idea is, if you can dress and appear to be a local, your chances are much better. If you can speak a few words in Japanese, your chances are better. How hot the girl is makes no difference. I have only been to Tobita a few times, but I have never been rejected.4. In answer to the previous question, she was shaved, and yes, she is better looking in person - not as heavily made-up and dressed professionally. Big eyes and beautiful skin. Unfortunately, not really into the work, but she has a happy personality. At this price, no complaints from me.
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[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Okay. Most of this message is directed towards OAH, but posted for the benefit of all.1. In general, Japanese as a society, is a little "system-crazy". There are rules and conventions for everything. This includes the various types of fuzoku. There are special pricing conventions for soap, hotel health, pink salons, delivery health, massage-with-finish, etc. FS is illegal, and almost always, the counter will deny and insist no FS. Sometimes, this is really the case, and they will deny you service if you ask about FS. In others, not. With Shibuya Grimpeur, I have read on ISG that the guy at the counter actually told him who provided AF, but YMMV. It is safest to consult with ISG or someone who has used that particular service. As for Grimpeur, the default hotel is a dump, and the service is random, but for the price you pay, it is cheap to have a chance at a hottie. IMHO, sumata is not bad at all, so for me at least, FS is not so important here. I just want a young Japanese hottie when I go there. With all the services in Japan, the more conditions you insist on, the more expensive it gets and the more research you have to do to find a place that satisfies all your conditions. There are many foreigners who live here who still have to compromise in one way or another. I agree with you that most of the systems are unnecessarily complicated, but it is what it is.To me, the hit-or-miss is not that foreigners get a worse choice. Foreigners will only get the ones where the girl doesn't mind being with a foreigner. There are still good ones to be had. The hit-or-miss is in the quality of service and whether you end up with FS or not.2. In general, pricing in Japan is crazy relative to most other places. In terms of value, I'd much rather go to certain areas in the South of China rather than spend my money in Tokyo. However, there are exceptions. In particular, I like some higher level pink salons and some legitimate massage-with-finish places, which probably have no comparison elsewhere, in terms of service. My personal measure is, do I feel like I got ripped off after the service? If you've never tried soap, it's good to try it once, but I think for most people, unless you are very wealthy or inexperienced mongering, will experience monger's regret at paying outrageous sums of cash. I know OAH is experienced so maybe he'd try it once or twice, but I am certain he would compare versus his experiences elsewhere.4. In answer to the previous question, she was shaved, and yes, she is better looking in person. Not as heavily made-up and dressed professionally. Big eyes and beautiful skin. Unfortunately, not really into the work, but she has a happy personality. At this price, no complaints from me.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot and very much agreed, except thigh or ball massage in Macau should beat the massage parlor in Japan. Like Japan, the system is complicated, officially, they can't give you the finish, but with more sessions, it is always possible.In Grimpeur, AF was on the menu until few months ago. Kazumi in Grimpeur still does AF. She has a great attitude and good and keen service. AF itself is not among the best though, probably not the best ass, that's all.Will try Rina soon!
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China
[QUOTE=Homer69]Where in China? Who are the best (most knowledgeable, most practical, etc.) ISG references in the Shanghai and Beijing forums (besides yourself)?[/QUOTE]Homer69,I am S. China based where P4P is the best value. In Shangai, it would be Blacklisted and Mockabee, Ace Gallant if he is in town. In Beijing, it would be SammyT, Zhuren and Bad Boy Billy but Billy is not based in Beijing. Prices in Beijing a little higher than the rest of China. Send me a PM if you are coming over and I will hook you up.OAH
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Appearance
[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]3. WRT Tobita, I have never met you, OAH, but I am rather certain that your hit rate there should be much higher. Japanese tend to be very appearance-oriented, even more so in Tokyo than in Osaka. The general idea is, if you can dress and appear to be a local, your chances are much better. If you can speak a few words in Japanese, your chances are better. How hot the girl is makes no difference. I have only been to Tobita a few times, but I have never been rejected. [/QUOTE]I agree. I get more "dozo" with a suit on then wearing a pair of jeans. My hit rate may be higher if I approached more shops. I normally just walk around waiting to be called in. I never approach the shop without the "dozo". I get the feeling that they are taking gaijin to fill in the low business periods. When there are many Japanese punters around later in the evening, my hit rate goes down a lot. What time do you normally go?OAH
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I just tried SW-SP and they said no gaijin, even says so on the website. So I tried Komachi and the guy said no on Aira and one other girl I asked about. He said some girls are OK but he wouldn`t know until they showed up. My Japanese is not a problem and they guy didn`t know until he asked for name and address. Just curious, but did you use them recently?[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]I have had good luck at Shinagawa Komachi and its sister shops:[url]http://www.s-komachi.jp/[/url][url]http://www.sw-sp.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-hana.jp/[/url][url]http://www.s-chaya.jp/[/url]Many of these girls are gravure/AV-level hot, and some are even gravure girls e.g. Aira ([url]http://www.s-komachi.jp/profile_513.html[/url]) who I've had several times. I am a non-Asian foreigner but my Japanese is fluent. I have never gotten The Question over the phone ("お客様、外人さんですか?") although it is not 100% clear this is because they don't realize I am a foreigner or because they don't care. The great thing is, once you phone in an appointment and complete it successfully once, they recognize your number on subsequent calls and the level of due diligence on their part falls considerably. You can even schedule subsequent appointments via the web, further reducing the risk of getting caught out as a non-Japanese over the phone.[/QUOTE]
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Xmas in Shinjuku
Hey guys,I'll be staying in Shinjuku for the Christmas holiday [23rd-28th] and want to visit a soapland and/or some of the pink salons.I could use a partner in crime/guide to find these venues. Your bar tab would be on me, naturally. I could reciprocate if you were to come to Seoul, even though the scene there is minimal compared to Tokyo. (big sigh)Up-to-date advice on which venues to visit would also be appreciated.Send me a PM if you're up for it.Seoulstice
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I agree. I get more "dozo" with a suit on then wearing a pair of jeans. My hit rate may be higher if I approached more shops. I normally just walk around waiting to be called in. I never approach the shop without the "dozo". I get the feeling that they are taking gaijin to fill in the low business periods. When there are many Japanese punters around later in the evening, my hit rate goes down a lot. What time do you normally go?OAH[/QUOTE]That's way too passive: do you wait for girls to approach you at a bar? The girls in Tobita are on display, for god's sake. If you are interested in someone, stare a little bit, smile and nod, and say "konnichi-wa" when they recognize your interest. How can you call that a "hit rate" when you haven't even attempted a "hit"? =DYou are being too self-aware of being a foreigner and they might be getting those vibes from you!!!If they are not interested because they think you are a foreigner, they will either ask you about your background, or at least chit-chat with you for a second to gauge you. From my experience, Kansai fuzoku (Osaka/Kobe, etc...) is much more open to foreigners than Kanto fuzoku (Tokyo).I've never paid attention to the time of day when I took a visit; I went when I felt like it. I've gone when it's busy and I've gone when it's quite empty. Just view it from their perspective: the shop doesn't care if you are a foreigner or not, as long as you understand the rules and act like all the other customers do (this is true of 99% of Japan, regardless of what kind of business). Occasionally, the girl cares, but there's no way you can gauge until you try! Let the mama reject you... ...that's HER job.Oh... ...and you don't literally need a suit - just dress neatly and cleanly - casual also works, but looking cheap or sloppy does not. Just do as the locals do.
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AM - Asuka
[QUOTE=Nemics]Hi,I searched the Forum, but did not found any feedback about Asuka from AM.So I would like to ask if there is any experience with her?Thanks for the feedback!Nemics[/QUOTE]I haven't been able to post for a while hence no FR on Asuka. I saw her in late Oct. She's young, grew up in Australia (speaks perfect English with an Aussie accent), has a very down to earth attitude and is a hot and horny experience. Small breasts, very passionate kisses, gets very wet during DATY, mutiple positions and likes it hard and deep, finished 2nd session with a great BBBJCIM and swallow.Stats:Age: 22 Nationality: JapaneseLooks: 7/10 (pretty with nice smile)Body: 7/10 (slim waist, slightly larger butt)Tits: 5/10 (small)GFE and attitude : 9/10 (outstanding)BBBJ: 8/10CIM: and swallowAnal: Not available AR: Can't recallTime: 2 hrsPrice: standardWIR: Definately Yes
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Not that passive
[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]That's way too passive: do you wait for girls to approach you at a bar? The girls in Tobita are on display, for god's sake. If you are interested in someone, stare a little bit, smile and nod, and say "konnichi-wa" when they recognize your interest. How can you call that a "hit rate" when you haven't even attempted a "hit"? =DYou are being too self-aware of being a foreigner and they might be getting those vibes from you!!!If they are not interested because they think you are a foreigner, they will either ask you about your background, or at least chit-chat with you for a second to gauge you. From my experience, Kansai fuzoku (Osaka/Kobe, etc...) is much more open to foreigners than Kanto fuzoku (Tokyo).I've never paid attention to the time of day when I took a visit; I went when I felt like it. I've gone when it's busy and I've gone when it's quite empty. Just view it from their perspective: the shop doesn't care if you are a foreigner or not, as long as you understand the rules and act like all the other customers do (this is true of 99% of Japan, regardless of what kind of business). Occasionally, the girl cares, but there's no way you can gauge until you try! Let the mama reject you... ...that's HER job.Oh... ...and you don't literally need a suit - just dress neatly and cleanly - casual also works, but looking cheap or sloppy does not. Just do as the locals do.[/QUOTE]I suppose I could be more straightforward. I do look into the shops but often the mama does not return the look or say anything. I will try to smile, nod and say hello next time and see if it helps. From reading some other posts about Tobita, I did not think I was that far off with my success ratio.Thanks for the advice.OAH
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[QUOTE=tjoe2002]I just tried SW-SP and they said no gaijin, even says so on the website. So I tried Komachi and the guy said no on Aira and one other girl I asked about. He said some girls are OK but he wouldn`t know until they showed up. My Japanese is not a problem and they guy didn`t know until he asked for name and address. Just curious, but did you use them recently?[/QUOTE]You are correct, I see that SW-SP does note a no-foreigners rule on their web site -- although oddly none of the other three 'sister shops' seem to. I have used several of these sites within the last couple months, including SW-SP. PM me if you like.ES
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this place is very expensive but absolutely rocking with girls...been here for about just a year and enjoyed every minute of it. J.G.
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Grimpeur report again
Yes I went there for the second time yesterday. Only one was available was ayu at that time. Her profile was nice. But when she showed up 15 mins later at my hotel, I was a bit disapointed since she was not as cute as her picture. I bought 45 mins, paid 2500yen for the hotel. So we chat for a while just about everything, then she showed me all the stuff in her purse, WTF? She was stalling time and the her timers started as soon as she walked in. So I have to pay the talking too? I can get that in any host club. My japanese wasn't perfect but I can get by. Then we showed for 5 mins. She mainly just washed my private a bit. Then off to business. She told me to lay down and went to BBBJ directly. Sad thing is she was on period that day. So DATY is out, 69 is out and I don't feel comfortable asking for FS is there is blood involved. I came in the first 15 mins. She didn't even taking them all in since I have to pay 2000yen extra for that. Then I asked for another shot if time allows. So I tried to arouse her a bit, but she feels a bit passive and neglectant to that. In the end, I didn't get my second shot. But her BBBJ was the best I ever had. Something about the way she works her tougue just blow my mind and my ****.Body 5Service 4Repeat I don't think so.Maybe because she was one her period or somthing else, I didn; t get the same satisfaction as before. So maybe depends on the girls.So I went to dinner with my clients around shibuya, then went back to 666 again that night. Something stroke me to walk to the left entrance instead the right. It's a different establishment. Here is the link [url]http://www.S-queens.com/contents/top/index.html[/url]They said they don't take gaijin. But I talked to the tencho for a bit, then he told me he has to call the girls to make sure if that is ok. I waited in the booth about 2 mins. He said daijobu. So I picked Sari. Looks nice on her profile. Went to the hotel, and tencho walked me to it and take care of the clerk over there. Waited for 10 mins then she arrives. Totally shocked me since she was much better than I expected and way better than the Ayu. She timed only the time when we get to the shower until the end. So I don't know if it is a stardard practice. She was like someone who is into sex and not afraid to try couple new things. So as soon we got it on in the bed. I asked for honban. Then she told me "can you keep a secret? " then she grabed a extra large condom from her purse, along with some toys and a hand cuff. I was so surprise that I don't know what will happen to me. SM was in the house. Only down side is that her "mango" was a bit small, so I can't go all the way in. I not joking about my size. Regular 6 only. So well money spent in this joint. If your japanese is ok, general noding and common conversation, then you should try this place. Maybe just my luck.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Threesome Options...
Hi There.Firstly I would like to wish all a very Merry Christmas and it goes without saying that this forum has been a great help over the years.I am in a position at the moment where I want to treat myself to a Christmas present and would like to experience a threesome here in Japan. The only options I have come across for us gaijin is with AM and ND. I have a couple of queries and would love some advice.1. Has anyone gone experienced a threesome with AM or ND? If so, which girls make a good combination in order to make it an experience to remember.2. Are there any other options (maybe Happening Bar) that is considered Gaijin friendly where I could perhaps get the same service?Thanks in advance
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Glory holes or easy access happening clubs
My girlfriend is looking at experimenting with some other cock. When she is out partying, she has her urges. However, when she is sober and in work mode, she doesn't want to do it. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knew of any straight glory holes or happening clubs in the Tokyo/Yokohama area that are easy access? My girlfriend is Japanese.
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I'm also looking for a Happening Bar in Tokyo that I can take one of my girls too. If anyone has any info on Happening Bars that will take accept a gaijin/nohonjin couple, please let me know. You can contact me by PM if that's better.Thanks
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Me too.I'd like to find some easy access happening bars or a straight gloryhole.My Japanese girlfriend would like to try some other dick.
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[QUOTE=LatinoInTokyo]Hi There.2. Are there any other options (maybe Happening Bar) that is considered Gaijin friendly where I could perhaps get the same service?Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Manami ([url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url]) offers a happening bar option. This could take care of two issues at once, in that you'd have a girl who would take you to a happening bar which is gaijin friendly. Anyway, good luck, and enjoy!
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Yokyo comming!
Hey guys,!I'll be coming to Tokyo og new years eve. Till 3rd Jan.I am an India guy. Please suggest me some thing to go about in Tokyo., is it difficult for me to get a nice catch if I am not a Japanese?.And are the 5* hotels in central Tokyo. GFF.? Do they arrange girls by any change?Your Indian mate!
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[QUOTE=Akkitkd]Hey guys,!I'll be coming to Tokyo og new years eve. Till 3rd Jan.I am an India guy. Please suggest me some thing to go about in Tokyo., is it difficult for me to get a nice catch if I am not a Japanese?.And are the 5* hotels in central Tokyo. GFF.? Do they arrange girls by any change?Your Indian mate![/QUOTE]There are plenty of 5* hotels in Tokyo, but you better start making some enquiries now if you want any chance of getting a booking.RTFF for the other answers.
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[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin]There are plenty of 5* hotels in Tokyo, but you better start making some enquiries now if you want any chance of getting a booking.RTFF for the other answers.[/QUOTE]Indeed, indeed. And prepare to be shocked. The computer says those three days at, say, the Park Hyatt will cost around $2000, cheapest rate. If someone has to ask whether there are 5* hotels in Tokyo, he better won't come.None of them usually care who you bring to your room.And none of them will arrange for female room service. Polite as they are, they will claim they don't understand the question.
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[QUOTE=LatinoInTokyo]Has anyone gone experienced a threesome with AM or ND? If so, which girls make a good combination in order to make it an experience to remember.[/QUOTE]I'd wondered the same thing -- how "interactive" are the threeways with AM? Do the girls play with each other or just concentrate on the guy?
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Omg
[QUOTE=Zhuren]Indeed, indeed. And prepare to be shocked. The computer says those three days at, say, the Park Hyatt will cost around $2000, cheapest rate. If someone has to ask whether there are 5* hotels in Tokyo, he better won't come.None of them usually care who you bring to your room.And none of them will arrange for female room service. Polite as they are, they will claim they don't understand the question.[/QUOTE]OMG!Thts hell expensive.Any other suggestions?. Caus I have already booked my flight tickets.!
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[QUOTE=Akkitkd]OMG!Thts hell expensive.Any other suggestions?. Caus I have already booked my flight tickets.![/QUOTE]use [url]http://www.kayak.com[/url] and act fast. Tokyo hotels are booked out fast over new year's. Also, lower your expectations in stars or raise your budget.
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Tokyo Hotels
Short list --1) Washinton Hotel in Shinjuku.2) Granbell in Shibuya or Akasaka.3) Akasaka Prince same day booking.4) E-Hotel various locations.5) Bali-An various locations.Ganbatte!
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Anyone in Tokyo and want to join me for some action?I will be here till the 3rd Jan.
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Thanks guys!
Thanks guys!Will let you know my experience.
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[QUOTE=Meiji]I'd wondered the same thing -- how "interactive" are the threeways with AM? Do the girls play with each other or just concentrate on the guy?[/QUOTE]This is secondhand information, not first, but a friend of mine did the three-way option at AM. According to him, the girls needed prompting from him to interact with each other, but once he asked, they did. You might want to book far in advance, and ask them to make a pairing, or ask for one you like and leave it up to her to choose the second. I've had fairly good luck with the second strategy at Estes and the like.
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[QUOTE=Zhuren]use [url]http://www.kayak.com[/url] and act fast. Tokyo hotels are booked out fast over new year's. Also, lower your expectations in stars or raise your budget.[/QUOTE]I've tried them all, and I find that [url]http://www.japanican.com[/url] and [url]http://www.agoda.com[/url] have both been better than Kayak, unless Kayak has added Japanican and Agoda to their meta-search.
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[QUOTE=Akkitkd]OMG!Thts hell expensive.Any other suggestions?. Caus I have already booked my flight tickets.![/QUOTE]For really cheap but clean business hotels look at these chains:[url]http://www.toyoko-inn.com/eng/[/url][url]http://www.superhotel.co.jp/en/index.html[/url] Other reservation sites:[url]http://www.itcj.jp/eng/index.php[/url][url]http://travel.rakuten.co.jp/en/[/url][url]http://www.kid97.co.jp/~jeh-group/jeh-group.html[/url][url]http://www.jcha.or.jp/english/[/url][url]http://www.ejapanhotels.com/[/url][url]http://www.japanhotel.net/[/url][url]http://www.j-hotel.or.jp/en/index.html[/url][url]http://www.japanican.com/index.aspx[/url][url]http://www.j-reserve.com/[/url]
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Beauty and the Beast
I went to this happening bar in Kabukicho a couple of years ago and had a great time (I went with my gf of the time). Does anybody know what happened to it, or where the "new" B&B scene might be? From reading other blogs etc, I found that B&B was one of the best S&M type happening bars around, but that the police had raided and closed them down.
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[QUOTE=Exgeo]I went to this happening bar in Kabukicho a couple of years ago and had a great time (I went with my gf of the time). Does anybody know what happened to it, or where the "new" B&B scene might be? From reading other blogs etc, I found that B&B was one of the best S&M type happening bars around, but that the police had raided and closed them down.[/QUOTE]Sadly, B&B has been closed for some time. Some of its flair lives on at Sleeping Beauty in Shibuya (same owner.) Sleeping Beauty is more like a "regular" happening bar, but it has several SM themed rooms. The beauty of Sleeping Beauty is that the main playroom is opened to couples only, and you won't be accosted by single guys.
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freelancer
I will be in Tokyo 12 January for 1 weekI'm new and I have some question1) There are some place (bar. Or.) where to find freelancer?2) I read a lot about Grimpeur, I cannot read japanese map, will be big help to post english map or right information for to arrive.3) I don't speak japanese, I hope Grimpeur will not refuse me, if happened will be other similar place?4) RLD also for this can give me good information for findSorry for to much asking.
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I'm currently in Japan on vacation in shinjuku. I walked through kabukicho and saw the same guy I saw on a random youtube video that speaks in english hustle me for a good time.I'm mainly interested in one of the 'image' or 'theme' clubs where the women wear the sexy outfits. I'm not looking for FS, just a good bbbjtcim hopefully.Any good recommendations?
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A newbie, older Gaijin's best chance....
I have read (and re-read!) accounts on this board over the last few weeksAnd would appreciate a few tipsI'll be visiting Tokyo late this month, my second visit in five years(3 days in Tokyo, then leaving for elsewhere in Japan).The first time I almost made contact with someone from Cherry Blossoms but confess I cancelled due to cold feet.I am committed to make something happen this visit.I'm Canadian. Caucasian. Can't read, write or speak Japanese.Just turned 50. Fit. Quiet by temperament. Never been comfortable with bar scene.Looking to meet J-girl in her 20s or 30s.Prepared to pay for high-end experience.What I have discerned so far from your collective experience is thatA) the above qualities severely limit my options.B) AM and CB and ND are probably my best betC) with no working knowledge of Japanese, and no local contacts, wandering the streets of Yoshiwara or following up leads from this site is essentially asking to be taken advantage of.Is that accurate?Also, I did email a girl from her ad on [url]www.Sexyescortads.com[/url]She responded to me with a phone number, general indication of openness but cagey on details other than she is fun to be with, and call her when I am in town. Goes by name of "Tomoloo. " Ring any bells?One more: Is Cherry Blossoms still operating?Thanks, and good luck to all.
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Tokyo Melty Kiss
[QUOTE=atlasarchw]I have read (and re-read!) accounts on this board over the last few weeksAnd would appreciate a few tipsI'll be visiting Tokyo late this month, my second visit in five years(3 days in Tokyo, then leaving for elsewhere in Japan).The first time I almost made contact with someone from Cherry Blossoms but confess I cancelled due to cold feet.I am committed to make something happen this visit.I'm Canadian. Caucasian. Can't read, write or speak Japanese.Just turned 50. Fit. Quiet by temperament. Never been comfortable with bar scene.Looking to meet J-girl in her 20s or 30s.Prepared to pay for high-end experience.What I have discerned so far from your collective experience is thatA) the above qualities severely limit my options.B) AM and CB and ND are probably my best betC) with no working knowledge of Japanese, and no local contacts, wandering the streets of Yoshiwara or following up leads from this site is essentially asking to be taken advantage of.Is that accurate?Also, I did email a girl from her ad on [url]www.Sexyescortads.com[/url]She responded to me with a phone number, general indication of openness but cagey on details other than she is fun to be with, and call her when I am in town. Goes by name of "Tomoloo. " Ring any bells?One more: Is Cherry Blossoms still operating?Thanks, and good luck to all.[/QUOTE]Manami from [url]www.tokyomeltykiss.com[/url] will rock your world. Unfortunately she won't be available until 11Jan. Webpage is in english.
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Mini Skirt Gotanda
I'm currently in Japan on vacation in shinjuku. I walked through kabukicho and saw the same guy I saw on a random youtube video that speaks in english hustle me for a good time.I'm mainly interested in one of the 'image' or 'theme' clubs where the women wear the sexy outfits. I'm not looking for FS, just a good bbbjtcim hopefully.Any good recommendations?Here is a hompage of a delivery health in Gotanda. [url]www.Minisuka-c.com[/url] You will need a working knowlege of Japanese as you have to call the tout, follow directions to a mansion/apartment and in person choose the girl, course and outfit she will wear. The tout will emphasize NO FULL SERVICE but from my experience its up to the girl once you are in the hotel. The tout will show you a book of approximately 100 different outfits for the girl and you choose everything all the way to color/style of stockings and shoes. All in all probably close to 1000 variables in outfits. This place's primary focus is on leg fetish but the girls are very good looking, all japanese and the service is amazing. After choosing the course, girl and outfit you will pay the tout and he will give you directions to a neaby hotel with instructions to the girl at the window "Minisuka desu". You will pay another 4000 yen or so and receive a room key for 2 hours. Call Minisuka back up and give them the room number. Wait and have fun. Most girls do BBBJ and the tout was upfront if the girl didn't. Again, if you don't have a decent working knowledge of Japanese don't waste your time with this place. Way too much interaction for an non-knowledgable person. I have had no problem with this place and another Delivery Health in the same building called Bodycon. Bodycon focuses more on the seual appeal of a well dressed woman but both companies are run by the same people. Sorry couldn't fiind the webpage for Bodycon but I got both of them from the Manzoku newspaper sold in most Tokyo convienence stores. Once you are inside the lobby of the mansion look at the mailbox on the wall and look for the room number for bodycon if you prefer. Sorry I don't remember the exact room number. Both places worked with me just fine and I am as "white american looking" as you can possibly get.
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[QUOTE=atlasarchw]I have read (and re-read!) accounts on this board over the last few weeksAnd would appreciate a few tipsI'll be visiting Tokyo late this month, my second visit in five years(3 days in Tokyo, then leaving for elsewhere in Japan).I'm Canadian. Caucasian. Can't read, write or speak Japanese.Just turned 50. Fit. Quiet by temperament. Never been comfortable with bar scene.Looking to meet J-girl in her 20s or 30s.Prepared to pay for high-end experience.What I have discerned so far from your collective experience is thatA) the above qualities severely limit my options.B) AM and CB and ND are probably my best betC) with no working knowledge of Japanese, and no local contacts, wandering the streets of Yoshiwara or following up leads from this site is essentially asking to be taken advantage of.Is that accurate?[/QUOTE]A) and B) are absolutely correct. I have recommended AM to others, with uniformly positive results (although I have never used them myself). C) is not 100% accurate. Other than being charged a "gaijin-rate," you are exceedingly unlikely to be "taken advantage of" in Yoshiwara. I've never been ripped off, although most of the complaints I have heard have been about Shinjuku, Roppongi, and a few other places frequented by foreigners. The biggest indicator of potential danger is if they employ foreign touts. Now before I get totally flamed, many foreign touts are simply trying to conduct business, and some are genuinely helpful. However it is difficult for me to think of a case of someone getting ripped off or worse that wasn't predicated by some variation of the phrase, "so this Nigerian/Iranian/Pakistani tout comes up to me..." Stick with AM. It isn't the finest experience possible, but it is generally safe, extremely gaijin-friendly (gaijin are their business), and more consistently rated than CB or ND.
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[QUOTE=atlasarchw]I have read (and re-read!) accounts on this board over the last few weeksAnd would appreciate a few tipsI'll be visiting Tokyo late this month, my second visit in five years(3 days in Tokyo, then leaving for elsewhere in Japan).The first time I almost made contact with someone from Cherry Blossoms but confess I cancelled due to cold feet.I am committed to make something happen this visit.I'm Canadian. Caucasian. Can't read, write or speak Japanese.Just turned 50. Fit. Quiet by temperament. Never been comfortable with bar scene.Looking to meet J-girl in her 20s or 30s.Prepared to pay for high-end experience.What I have discerned so far from your collective experience is thatA) the above qualities severely limit my options.B) AM and CB and ND are probably my best betC) with no working knowledge of Japanese, and no local contacts, wandering the streets of Yoshiwara or following up leads from this site is essentially asking to be taken advantage of.Is that accurate?Also, I did email a girl from her ad on [url]www.Sexyescortads.com[/url]She responded to me with a phone number, general indication of openness but cagey on details other than she is fun to be with, and call her when I am in town. Goes by name of "Tomoloo. " Ring any bells?One more: Is Cherry Blossoms still operating?Thanks, and good luck to all.[/QUOTE]Stick with AM. Its a sure thing. I've never been disappointed. I'll post a report about Shiori soon. She's a little older, but I would rate her really high. Not a dynamo, but a smooth, soft relaxing experience with a woman who loves sex and knows how to take her time and do things right.
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Just for the record
Just for the record, I know a few of you know but if you speak Japanese well there really is no reason to limit yourself to AM etc. I got the impression that the places I've tried would be unhappy with a sudden gaijin rush* (in fact they all said they'd never had a Caucasian before and I believed them) but if you speak, just go through the Japanese Fuzoku pages and make calls. All this talk of foreigners being rejected mostly comes from salons where its bad for foreigners to be seen by other customers, and soaps where things are a bit more complicated. I called multiple very, very good deli health (8-10's), hotel health etc. Places and wasn't rejected by any of them. Its expensive ( 2man all together) but got an I've gotten an I cup girl, a 19 yo gyaru, etc. If you can't speak Japanese or don't speak well, don't try but for the rest, try branching out!*I don't mean to be mysterious about which places I've been but really you can find tons on your own if you speak.
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[QUOTE=Mar Deepack]I will be in Tokyo 12 January for 1 weekI'm new and I have some question1) There are some place (bar. Or.) where to find freelancer?2) I read a lot about Grimpeur, I cannot read japanese map, will be big help to post english map or right information for to arrive.3) I don't speak japanese, I hope Grimpeur will not refuse me, if happened will be other similar place?4) RLD also for this can give me good information for findSorry for to much asking.[/QUOTE]No any information?
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Craig's List
Was wondering if anybody tried the 24 yr old Australian - 170 cms, caramel hair - advertising on Craig's list? Her add said she was expensive but worth it... was wondering how much she wanted and if indeed she was worth it!
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Using your hotel room vs a love hotel
For incall services, which is generally better?Do hotel staff (I am thinking of business hotels here, or four/five star hotels)Get fussy with the girl, or with you?Also, anybody familiar with "Tomoloo" (mentioned in an earlier post)?Thanks
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[QUOTE=atlasarchw]Prepared to pay for high-end experience...Also, I did email a girl from her ad on [url]www.Sexyescortads.com[/url] [/QUOTE]As long as you don't pick[url=http://www.sexyescortads.com/escort-150-107646/] Natasha Levine,[/url] who sells her cherry for a cool quarter million Euro, you should be fine.
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In that case
[QUOTE=Rndm21]I don't mean to be mysterious about which places I've been but[/QUOTE]Why don't you just tell us all then? Frankly you are not adding much value unless you do. I've sourced deli/hotel healths via the net, stickers and booklets found in Shibuya phone booths, and even a magazine or two back in the day. What places did you find success with, and where did you source them?ES
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Asuka - Best of Both World
[QUOTE=Nemics]Hi,I searched the Forum, but did not found any feedback about Asuka from AM.So I would like to ask if there is any experience with her?Thanks for the feedback!Nemics[/QUOTE]Meant to answer that but saw Striker34 beat me to it. I by and large agree with him. Here the review I wanted to post before I even read his:Manga-ka is a manga artist, and one may wonder what asu-ka stands for.Well you get a great un-expected package. An Aussie babe mind in a J-Girl body! For those of you who miss the now elusive Basia, there is now another antipodian option to be found in town. Asuka is absolutely laid back. Her English is very good and the sex is good, she has a taste for doggy style, attitude is great, the body is a tight little package. What else could you wish for?For the casual traveler who wants a smooth taste of J-girls without the risk of loss in translation types of problems, and for the experience monger here who would like some kind of new reverse exotics. Strongly recommended.
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"This posting has been flagged for removal"
[QUOTE=Markchi]Was wondering if anybody tried the 24 yr old Australian - 170 cms, caramel hair - advertising on Craig's list? Her add said she was expensive but worth it... was wondering how much she wanted and if indeed she was worth it![/QUOTE]To quote from the original listing: [url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/1529984745.html[/url]ES
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Craigs list
[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]To quote from the original listing: [url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ers/1529984745.html[/url]ES[/QUOTE]Thanks.I thought this happens when the author decides to remove their post. I.e. she had enough interest, or am I misunderstanding?
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Experience at Yuri (Nippori)
I went to this shop few weeks ago, it was a Friday, around 5pm. I went there a few times and never had any problem. Sometime the service is good, sometimes not as it really depends of the provider. For the price, you can't really complain.Well this time, I paid normally the tout. He took the money and right after call an other shop, gave my name and then told me to go to this shop located around 50-100 meters ago. It was a little bit strange but I was ok, as I never got any trouble with him. I finally found the place after 10mn. I wanted to see pics of girls but the tout didn't give me that chance. Fortunately the girl he choose looked ok, she was friendly and we had a good contact, laughing together for some jokes. We was almost in the shower when the toot comes to her and said she finally had to wait, as a Japanese customer was coming in a minutes. He didn't really ask me, just explained the situation and said sorry. An other girl came to me and she was bad looking and bad in providing services. An other bad experience.I didn't know if I had to accept or not what the tout said, but the thing is, it was the first time for me to feel that kind of discrimination.In the same situation, what would you do?
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Dynamics
I would absolutely not ask, but demand my money back in a polite but very firm manner. Something similar has happened before to me and I got my money back.
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Overall Thanks
Hi allI'd like to thank everyone here as I've largely been able to achieve what I've intended to do with all of the information on this forum. I wish I could contribute more, but sadly, I probably don't do much in the conventional mongering that anyone would want to hear about (I've been going to mostly hostess clubs).I've read the forum to see where I can get a basic massage/HJ from a Japanese girl (not a Chinese/Korean). If I go to a health is this possible (I don't really want a BJ). (I'm sure everyone is sick of hearing this). But I went to UCLA in kabukicho yesterday (and found it to be closed in the afternoon) and was going to ask. At that point I went to an annaijo and spoke with the guy who worked there who told me he could get me a BJ but no HJ (if anyone is interested in this the annaijo was right across from UCLA).Anyways. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. My Japanese is passable and would just like a nice looking girl to get me off.Thanks again to allI've also posted this at pink guide as my time here is short so sorry for the duplicate.
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[QUOTE=Fac50]Hi allI'd like to thank everyone here as I've largely been able to achieve what I've intended to do with all of the information on this forum. I wish I could contribute more, but sadly, I probably don't do much in the conventional mongering that anyone would want to hear about (I've been going to mostly hostess clubs).I've read the forum to see where I can get a basic massage/HJ from a Japanese girl (not a Chinese/Korean). If I go to a health is this possible (I don't really want a BJ). (I'm sure everyone is sick of hearing this). But I went to UCLA in kabukicho yesterday (and found it to be closed in the afternoon) and was going to ask. At that point I went to an annaijo and spoke with the guy who worked there who told me he could get me a BJ but no HJ (if anyone is interested in this the annaijo was right across from UCLA).Anyways. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. My Japanese is passable and would just like a nice looking girl to get me off.Thanks again to allI've also posted this at pink guide as my time here is short so sorry for the duplicate.[/QUOTE]There's two UCLA stores, one in Kabukicho which I've never seen open, and another one in Ikebukuro.
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Late request sorry!
Hello, Tokyo end of the forum! I'm a newbie and have been in Osaka but have had no luck finding what I want (due to the lack of activity in the fourm)I will soon be in Tokyo for 2 days and am hoping someone could help me find aa place that does BBBJCIM.Young sexy J-girls is a must!Money will not be a problem but I can't get a DH unless it can be arranged at a love ho: /I would RTFF but I don't have that kind of time!Please any help would be greatDetailed reports will ensue!
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Details about me
Sorry guys I forgot to mention my details!I'm Japanese, 18, speak little Japanese and have enough for decent FS but really am only looking for BBBJ.
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I will be in Tokyo for a few days and am staying at the Conrad with family. Is there anywhere near to get out to for about 2 hours or so? I read a lot of reports but can't really tell what areas they are in.I'd be glad to help anyone with any Philippines or HKG info.
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Shimbashi
[QUOTE=Sugoi]I will be in Tokyo for a few days and am staying at the Conrad with family. Is there anywhere near to get out to for about 2 hours or so? I read a lot of reports but can't really tell what areas they are in.I'd be glad to help anyone with any Philippines or HKG info.[/QUOTE]Conrad is in Shimbashi. This area used to be good, but has been closed to non-J punters.Options really depend on your J level and how comfortable you are riding the rails in Tokyo.
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Eager to hear all about Shiori of AM
[QUOTE=Castl Smith]Stick with AM. Its a sure thing. I've never been disappointed. I'll post a report about Shiori soon. She's a little older, but I would rate her really high. Not a dynamo, but a smooth, soft relaxing experience with a woman who loves sex and knows how to take her time and do things right.[/QUOTE]I'm chomping at the bit CS!, do tell soon! Inquiring minds of AM fans like me want to know! Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]I will be in Tokyo for a few days and am staying at the Conrad with family. Is there anywhere near to get out to for about 2 hours or so? I read a lot of reports but can't really tell what areas they are in.I'd be glad to help anyone with any Philippines or HKG info.[/QUOTE]The Conrad is next to Shinbashi station (sometimes spelled Shimbashi). Get on the Yamanote line and ride around the ring. The big places frequently metioned here are virtually all near stations on the Yamanote. If you find something here that interests you, search to see if it is near a Yamanote station. The most notable exception is the soapland district in Yoshiwara, which isn't near any station, train or subway.The areas that get the most coverage here that are served by Yamanote stations are:Shibuya (Shibuya Station)Ikebukuro (Ikebukuro Station)Ueno (Ueno Station)Sugamo (Sugamo Station)Shinjuku (Shinjuku Station) There is an excellent article on the Yamanote line on Wikipedia:[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamanote_Line[/url]
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AM Hiromi
Is profile looks great.Anybody have experience with her?Next week I will be in tokyo, and I want trial AM, also other information on AM girl is welcome.
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While in tokyo
Greetings all,I am in Tokyo for a short time and would like to find AM and Jan Jan. Could somone point me to a google map, web site or some directions. I read back 30 pages, LOL, and found lots of references, but no addresses.Thanks everyone!M.Ps; alas, I do not speak or read japanese.
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Gaijin punter in Shibuya
Few weeks ago I only had three hours of freedom in Tokyo.My hotel was not far from Shibuya so I went there.Drifting around at 10:00 pm I walked on the large streetwhich is on the left side of 109's store keeping the right side...After the movie theatre, some girls stop me asking if I want massage.Further, some touts ignore me because I am totally gaijin.Further more, at the cross with a small street there was a tout (possibly Chinese or Korean)that stopped me and insists to bring me to some girls.He seems to not be expert enough to be dangerous,and due to my time shortage, I decided to follow him.I asked several times what kind of service he was going to propose,but he was more involved in quality of girls instead of their services...So I just made it sure that I was going to regret in caseI don't like the girls or their services.He understood and said no problem.Rising the small street and turning right, he took mein a small residential condominium and knocked at one apartment door.I got into a very small space where there was a big guy that showthe picture list of the girls (all pretty) and the prices. (6 to 8 thousands/hour)Not being a beginner in Japan, I wanted to make it sure about the services,and he immediately understood that I was looking for FSand not for a massage with several extras to be paid apart the standard price.I politely excuses myself for the embarassment,and firmely complained with the tout because he didn't want to tellpreviously about the available services.The guy inside the shop helped him to understandwith the FS gesture... the thumb between other two fingers.On the way back and still in the small street,we crossed a lady and the tout said something:then the lady said in good english that she could show mesome young pretty j-girls for FS.Again I made it sure that I was allowed to regretin case I don't like the girls or the service... No problem... and so I decided to follow her.Not a long way, this time turning left the small street instead right,and we get into from a small door directly from the street.The shop is not shabbier than the previous but the girls list is shorter.The menu is 15000 yen for 50 min but the girls don't look pure Japaneseand there is only two... fu*kable.The manager insist for one, but I choose another.Pay first and then take me in a dark corridor with 4 doors,knock at one and show me the girl.Pretty girl, but this is not the girl I said,and so I politely demand him to show me the picture list again.After I pointed again my choise, he knocked another door...Again, the girl wasn't the one in the picture and moreoverthis time I didn't like her at all.To get over the situation, I promptly said that I would takethe first one I saw and the manager was ok with it.Inside the little room there was just the space for the bed,but with the light on, the girl was a little Chinese beauty.Not too bad by the circumstances...Clothes off, little shower, a bit of conversation and there we go.The girl wasn't very partecipative for European standards,no FK, no DATY, and not too much touch,but spoke good english and had nice attitude anyway.I let her leading the curse and gained an excellent BJ(a full 10/10 for her tongue skills)Then she ride as a cowgirl for few minutes but get tired soonand ask for some missionary.Too bad because I lost the view of gorgeous big natural boobs.With no FK, I got quickly tired of it, and so I tried to vary lifting and turning her a bit.I don't know if she didn't like it too much or if she just wanted to finish me right away,but she suddenly offered me doggystyle... and I can't resist to it.Finally she let me free to go however I want toand kept me inside as long as she feels me throbbling.After that, very kindly and with no rush,she took care of the gum and cleaned my satisfied brother,so meticolously that I renounced to the second proposed shower.Some more friendly conversation...Bye Bye, good luck !The girl:8/10 for the apparence10/10 for BJ skills9/10 for attitude10/10 conversation5/10 for participation10/10 personal hygieneThe ambience:3/10 Too small and unconfortable, doubts about general hygiene2/10 Girl can't wait to get away from that environment...1/10 Of course none of the girls was JapaneseOverall:A flower can grow from the shitCheers
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[QUOTE=Matsu69]Conrad is in Shimbashi. This area used to be good, but has been closed to non-J punters.Options really depend on your J level and how comfortable you are riding the rails in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]I can get around fine but my Japanese is very basic. The problem is that Shimbashi station is about a 10 min walk each way which cuts into my time. Anywhere in the area?
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]The Conrad is next to Shinbashi station (sometimes spelled Shimbashi). Get on the Yamanote line and ride around the ring. The big places frequently metioned here are virtually all near stations on the Yamanote. If you find something here that interests you, search to see if it is near a Yamanote station. The most notable exception is the soapland district in Yoshiwara, which isn't near any station, train or subway.The areas that get the most coverage here that are served by Yamanote stations are:Shibuya (Shibuya Station)Ikebukuro (Ikebukuro Station)Ueno (Ueno Station)Sugamo (Sugamo Station)Shinjuku (Shinjuku Station) There is an excellent article on the Yamanote line on Wikipedia:[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamanote_Line[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks. I lived in Japan for a year but that was about 15+ years ago but I am still familiar with the railway.I'm looking for a J girl. Last time I was here I went to Kabukicho to the massage place that has been recommended here and got a Thai girl.Any help on a place I can get to and from in about 2 1/2 hours is appreciated.As mentioned, I can give a lot of advice on the Philippines and HKG if anyone is interested. Everything is a lot cheaper there. FS massage with your pick of a girl in an "aquarium" is about $50US all in.
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]Thanks. I lived in Japan for a year but that was about 15+ years ago but I am still familiar with the railway.I'm looking for a J girl. Last time I was here I went to Kabukicho to the massage place that has been recommended here and got a Thai girl.Any help on a place I can get to and from in about 2 1/2 hours is appreciated.As mentioned, I can give a lot of advice on the Philippines and HKG if anyone is interested. Everything is a lot cheaper there. FS massage with your pick of a girl in an "aquarium" is about $50US all in.[/QUOTE]For FS with a J girl, you are probably better off just using AM. If your Japanese is not highly fluent, and your familiarity with the trains not terribly high, any other option runs the risk of you missing your time frame.The closest I can suggest is visit Jan Jan in Sugamo. That's only oral, but the ladies working there all seem to be Japanese. And the price, at between 3000 and 4000 yen, depending on the time of day, is very good for Japan. You might try Grimpeur in Shibuya. I haven't used them, but I understand they are J-girls, and they offer FS. But it's a Deri-heru, which means you'll have to work out a place. They might be able to help you locate a love hotel; Shibuya is full of them. But that will be extra. Search the forum, and you'll find answers to just about all of your questions.
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]Thanks. I lived in Japan for a year but that was about 15+ years ago but I am still familiar with the railway.I'm looking for a J girl. Last time I was here I went to Kabukicho to the massage place that has been recommended here and got a Thai girl.Any help on a place I can get to and from in about 2 1/2 hours is appreciated.As mentioned, I can give a lot of advice on the Philippines and HKG if anyone is interested. Everything is a lot cheaper there. FS massage with your pick of a girl in an "aquarium" is about $50US all in.[/QUOTE]6 months ago, just under the tracks at Shimbashi station, I just randomly walked into a basement using a stairway that said R-18 (18 and over) and came into a health shop, they asked me if I spoke Japanese (which I did) and I got to choose between 5 girls who were available at the moment.I remember the girl's name, Noriko, but not the shop's name.Service was great, the girl was slender and cute as hell. 100% Japanese.She said they don't get that many foreigners, so I guess the shop is not on the boards.If I ever go back in that area, I'll try and find it again and report.
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[QUOTE=Sugoi]Thanks. I lived in Japan for a year but that was about 15+ years ago but I am still familiar with the railway.I'm looking for a J girl. Last time I was here I went to Kabukicho to the massage place that has been recommended here and got a Thai girl.Any help on a place I can get to and from in about 2 1/2 hours is appreciated.As mentioned, I can give a lot of advice on the Philippines and HKG if anyone is interested. Everything is a lot cheaper there. FS massage with your pick of a girl in an "aquarium" is about $50US all in.[/QUOTE]You might also try these two posts, very informative:[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=938073[/url][url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=938074[/url]
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I was walking around a little and saw a sign that offered a massage on the 2nd floor and was 3000 for 30min and also had prices for 45min and 60min. Are these regular massages?I also saw a sign like that in Kyoto and wondered the same thing.I'll look for the R-18 sign if I go out tonight.I lived in Japan before so I know about the love hotels but I'm afraid that going through the whole process will take too long.
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[QUOTE=Zhuren]As long as you don't pick[url=http://www.sexyescortads.com/escort-150-107646/] Natasha Levine,[/url] who sells her cherry for a cool quarter million Euro, you should be fine.[/QUOTE]Natasha? I've had 'er; a couple of times. Not bad for a slapper.
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Jan Jan
I had an itch to scratch and a couple of hours to spare so went over to try the (in)famous Jan Jan (or JanJan, Japanese ジャンジャン ) for the first time. Easy enough to find, in fact I had been there once before but too early in the day before they opened so knew where I was going. Nothing spectacular to report, but for anyone (like myself) wondering how this kind of place works, it's like this:1) make the tout outside aware of your presence (not difficult, the street is pretty empty apart from a couple of touts for other places)2) he directs you down the stairs, and presses some kind of doorbell to alert the staff of incoming fire3) the mama-san greets you, relieves you of 3,000 yen, and guides you to a boothThe place is pretty dark and loud disco-style music is playing, there are even some mirror balls etc. It has that distinct "eau de fuzoku" olfactory atmosphere, dominated by the smell of sanitary wipes. The booths are semi-enclosed spaces with a long upholstered bench seat on one side, and a small corner table. Not exactly private, though until your eyes get used to the dark it's hard to work out what's going on around you. The odd slurping sound is hard to overhear when there is a break in the music though. Every now and again the doorbell dingdongs, and there is a constant stream of announcements along the line "Booth 19, your time is up".You wait for a while, then your assigned attendant comes in with a handful of warm o-shibori (towels), introduces herself (I forget the name, but early 30s maybe, from what I could make out not unattractive), engages in a bit of chitchat, then invites you to remove anything restricting access to your lower half. She takes her top off at the same time (presumably more might be possible, but from a subsequent quick exploratory feel I think the painters might have been in, and did not pursue the matter further). She uses one of the o-shibori to wipe down the object of interest (no disinfectant wipes etc. involved), then engages in a bit of touchy-feely during which I imagine a DFK might be possible, but to be honest unless I had a signed affidavit she'd just come on shift following a visit to an oral hygienist, I wouldn't want to go there. Then down to business, which is carried out with the lady in question lying on the bench supporting herself with her left hand on the floor. No complaints about technique, though I am not exactly a BJ connoisseur, and she took everything I had to give like a trouper. Once the transaction was complete she engaged in a little post-coital chitchat before discretely divesting herself of a mouthful of Gaienmae08's potential children into one of the oshibori before assisting with the cleanup operation with the remaining ones. Disappeared for a few minutes, presumably to somewhere involving lots of mouthwash, while I re-robed myself. A bit more chitchat, then off to the door with an invitation to come again, and not 5 minutes later I was on a Yamanote Line train.Was it what I expected? More or less. Would I go again? Possibly, though not in any hurry. I'm not really a BJ afficionado, and the place is too skanky for my taste. Came out feeling in need of a shower and change of clothes (the place has an underlying cigarette smell) and rather stupidly realized too late that there was nowt betwixt my tender posterior and the booth bench (note to self: if there is a next time, at least sit on underpants or appropriate one of the oshiboris, soft lad).
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Grimpeur
I will be staying at a hotel near Shibuya station. Will Grimpeur send the girls to your hotel or only the love hotels nearby the shop?OAH
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I will be staying at a hotel near Shibuya station. Will Grimpeur send the girls to your hotel or only the love hotels nearby the shop?OAH[/QUOTE]You have to go to the shop anyway to pay, you cannot just call and get the girl sent to you. I doubt they will do anything but love hotels but since you have to go there anyway you may as well ask them.My experience with Grimpeur has been quite poor recently. Not as friendly towards (Japanese speaking) gaijin as they used to B. They completely closed the place for foreigners in 2003 after they had a few bad customers.Due to the recession there are now actually quite a few places in Shibuya who accept non-Japanese speaking customers. If you hang out in Dogenzaka at night, especially the area in front of the Lawson convenience store, most likely a tout will approach you and take you to a few places that are okay with gaijin. Quite different from a few years ago.
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Greetings all,I am still trying to find JanJan and AM. Can anyone assist? Many thanks!Oh, and someone mentioned slightly higher prices for full service at AM. What sort of numbers are we talking..Mysterio
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Craigs lest Tokyo
Who have some experience and give some information?Any other system for to find real freelancer?
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Grimpeur report
Had a chance to visit Grimpeur for the first time the other day, so I thought I would report in and maybe stick a quick guide up for those who are thinking of giving it a try.Getting there:Finding the place was pretty straightforward. They have directions on the website in Japanese. You basically go out of the JR station in Shibuya and go to the main hachiko crossing. When you see the big "109 Building" where all the girls go shopping, take that exit and follow the street on the left hand side of the 109. This is the dogenzaka hill and leads to all the love hotels. After about a 100m, you then need to take the second turning right down a small street. There is a weird looking sign with a pac-man's head on the top of the street. Follow this road straight past a Lawson (to the right of the lawson, there are some semi-decent hotels to use) and you will eventually see the "666" sign on a building on the left. When you get to the 666 building there are 2 curtained entrances, take the right hand one and there should be a few vending machines, ashtrays and three little curtained desks inside. Grimpeur is the furthest desk away and has a sign.Ordering:I did the whole thing in Japanese, and it seemed pretty straightforward. It could be done in English maybe, but the guy behind the desk didn't look like he cared to use anything other than Japanese. There was a big, bouncer size Japanese skinhead guy there who looked my cheesy grin up and down before solemnly asking if I was Japanese. Told him I was half Japanese half English and he brought out 2 photo cards of the girls available (presumably to foreigners). There may have been more, but it was like 10 in the morning on a weekday. Hey, I was bored and horny! They had Mei and another girl who I can't remember. Girl's names were written in Japanese only. Mei looked sexy and young so chose her, then out came the price card and chose 75 mins for 22k (with the added fees, which was paid up front). He then asked if I was a member, then gave me a card. Lastly he asked about hotels. I had spotted some hotels near the Lawson so told him I would call him back when I'd checked in to one nearby. I guess he could guide you to one if you were unsure (?)I doubled back to the Lawson and to a hotel nearby. Once I had checked in to a room, called Grimpeur and told them which hotel and which room I was in. I guess this would be the hardest part for non-Japanese speakers. After about 15 mins, got the knock on the door. Mei was reasonably cute, maybe 70% of her photo. Chubbier cheeks than her photo had given away, early 20s, unremarkable body, pretty small tits, hairy pussy, a couple of suspect bruises on her back and zero English ability. She was, however, really friendly and wasted no time getting me into bed. After a shower together, to bed: lots of kissing, DATY, BBBJ and sumata to finish. Didn't get FS but wasn't too bothered, I asked "shall we? " after I had got her excited, but I think they are being strict on customers. I reckon if I see her again it may be OK. Had a cuddle and a cigarette with her for a bit, chatting about this and that. She was quite funny and open. Said she was fairly new but had been working there often recently, joking about her ex boyfriend and her party lifestyle etc. I got the feeling I could have given her my mail address and gone out drinking with her sometime, turned her over into a sex buddy. By this point, she was more into kissing me than talking so moved onto round two and another good long BBBJ to finish, just as the timer went. Said our goodbyes and jobs a good 'un. Not bad for a pre-lunch relax!Verdict:I was pretty pleased actually. It was a relatively hassle free way to have a good laugh with a cute Japanese girl. Can't wait to try the others when I'm back. If you absolutely must have FS, this is not for you, you may get lucky but don't bank on it.Ease of ordering. 9/10Looks. 6/10Attitude. 9/10; no FS but was very chatty and easy to get on with.Damage. 21k course fee for 75 mins, 1k entrance fee and 5k hotel fee = 27, 000[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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JanJan & AM info.
[QUOTE=Mysterio]Greetings all,I am still trying to find JanJan and AM. Can anyone assist? Many thanks!Oh, and someone mentioned slightly higher prices for full service at AM. What sort of numbers are we talking..Mysterio[/QUOTE]Rather than scrolling back, try clicking the Search This Thread button on the upper right hand side of this page. When your there, type in Jan Jan, and Sugimo since that is where Jan Jan is loceated. You'll find Sugimo Station on the Yamanote train line (green color). As for Asian Mystique (AM), simply find their site on Google. Have fun!
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Sugamo JR station for JanJan.I had FS from AM without higher payment. I just asked nicely. I expect it is not guaranteed. They will never talk about it because of the legal position.
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Happening Bar
[QUOTE=Gnnickman]My girlfriend is looking at experimenting with some other cock. When she is out partying, she has her urges. However, when she is sober and in work mode, she doesn't want to do it. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knew of any straight glory holes or happening clubs in the Tokyo/Yokohama area that are easy access? My girlfriend is Japanese.[/QUOTE]Your best bet is Club Silk in Shinjuku. Here is the website: [url]http://www.Nc-silk. Jp/silk-index_e.html[/url]Great place, lots of fun. Its way cheaper for "membership" if you go with your girl. The nomihodai is reasonable. And the experience is unforgetable.There is another place in Shibuya. But I forgot the name.Cheers
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[QUOTE=Really Now]Rather than scrolling back, try clicking the Search This Thread button on the upper right hand side of this page. When your there, type in Jan Jan, and Sugimo since that is where Jan Jan is loceated. You'll find Sugimo Station on the Yamanote train line (green color). As for Asian Mystique (AM), simply find their site on Google. Have fun![/QUOTE]Just make sure you spell it Sugamo, not Sugimo. For those who are curious, it means duck's nest.
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[QUOTE=Carberry]Sugamo JR station for JanJan.I had FS from AM without higher payment. I just asked nicely. I expect it is not guaranteed. They will never talk about it because of the legal position.[/QUOTE]AM offers FS. It's sort of guaranteed in the sense that you should always get it, but you're right, they won't talk about it.That is, unless you and me are talking about a different AM.
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[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]I will be staying at a hotel near Shibuya station. Will Grimpeur send the girls to your hotel or only the love hotels nearby the shop?OAH[/QUOTE]Grimpeur is not a hotel deli, you need to show up there and pay the bill. If it's not far, they might send the girl to your hotel, but it's their discretion. You probably need to speak passable Japanese nowadays.
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Does anyone know what happened to Marina from Club Boo?She disappeared from their web site.
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[QUOTE=Zcorps]AM offers FS. It's sort of guaranteed in the sense that you should always get it, but you're right, they won't talk about it.That is, unless you and me are talking about a different AM.[/QUOTE]Asian Mystique. I should have said "ask the lady nicely".
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Akasuri
I had akasuri recently. It's mentioned in earlier posts, it's a good solid body scrub that takes layers of skin off.Does anyone know how often you can have this done? I'm guessing every week would be too often. Once a month?
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Akasuri
[QUOTE=Japanguy]I had akasuri recently. It's mentioned in earlier posts, it's a good solid body scrub that takes layers of skin off. Does anyone know how often you can have this done? I'm guessing every week would be too often. Once a month?[/QUOTE]Apparently no more than twice a day is advised. If they try to do it more often, I would report them. Reportedly wearing a flak jacket also helps.Best of luck.ES
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NY NY Vs. Champs in Ueno
I've only been to Champs a few times over the years. Can anyone that's familiar with both places break down the small differences. Assuming the providers are similar at both, have you had more luck with talent at one or the other? How about the rooms themselves? Same lay out over at NY-NY? Champs' table-beds are high, I guess this lends to the massage/sauna image the law stipulates. If you were to choose solely on the room layout, would you always choose one over the other? Feel to chime in here on the forum or hit me up with a PM. Many thanks in advance.
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NYNY or Champs (Ueno)
[QUOTE=Really Now]I've only been to Champs a few times over the years. Can anyone that's familiar with both places break down the small differences. Assuming the providers are similar at both, have you had more luck with talent at one or the other? How about the rooms themselves? Same lay out over at NY-NY? Champs' table-beds are high, I guess this lends to the massage/sauna image the law stipulates. If you were to choose solely on the room layout, would you always choose one over the other? Feel to chime in here on the forum or hit me up with a PM. Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The owner is the same, the price is the same, the furnishing of the rooms is similar. At NYNY I remember long hallways with similar rooms on both sides, Champs seems to be smaller and the layout of the rooms may differ a bit.Actually your success depends on the provider. I have had good experiences at both shops, and mediocre ones at both. The last two times I went to Champs and did not have old chubby providers as I had twice at NYNY, so I may prefer Champs again the next time - until I get a bad provider there and change to NYNY ;-) . Don't expect more than body wash, bath, massage and HJ and you'll be satisfied. If you additionally get DFK, anal lick, and/or BBBJ you'll be happy.
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They are the same. You really can't tell any difference.[QUOTE=Really Now]I've only been to Champs a few times over the years. Can anyone that's familiar with both places break down the small differences. Assuming the providers are similar at both, have you had more luck with talent at one or the other? How about the rooms themselves? Same lay out over at NY-NY? Champs' table-beds are high, I guess this lends to the massage/sauna image the law stipulates. If you were to choose solely on the room layout, would you always choose one over the other? Feel to chime in here on the forum or hit me up with a PM. Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
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A question about Super Girl
I remember there was a BBBJ shop called Super Girl in Shinbashi. But I couldn't find it anymore.Is it still operating, still gaijin friendly?
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[QUOTE=Smith Ed]I remember there was a BBBJ shop called Super Girl in Shinbashi. But I couldn't find it anymore.Is it still operating, still gaijin friendly?[/QUOTE]A search of the forum will reveal the long and sad tale. Supergirls is NO LONGER gaijin friendly. It hasn't been so for quite a while now.
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I asked some questions about the Shimbashi area so here's what I found.One of the first days I went out, I saw all of the "girls bars" while I was looking for the R-18 place that was mentioned. Never found it but after walking around for a while, I was persuaded for a 3000yen massage by one of the Taiwanese ladies.In another cube I could hear the moans and the lady told me that for 7000 more, I would be "very, very happy" so I gave in. I figured I had to be back at the hotel in less than an hour so I wouldn't have more time to look around.As soon as I gave the money, the tune changed a little. I had a 30sec CBJ and then a HJ for the rest.A few days later, I walked past Supergirls because there were a few women talking right in front and turned right on the next street. A J girl offered me a massage for 5000 and kept telling me that it really was 5000 and wouldn't be more. But, I wanted to try Supergirls so I declined.I went around the block and just walked down the stairs. Since it was 9:30pm, I had to pay 9000 and it was just as reported before.A couple of days later I went back at about 8:30pm and the price was 8000.I am Asian so that is probably why I wasn't stopped. I wanted to try a girls bar but I thought my lack of Japanese would have made it difficult.
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Story DH report
I am always on the look out for a good Korean DH to try. When you get it right, you can find great FS with a super hot girl and at a decent price. When you get it wrong, it is a fantastic waste of time.One of the huge problems choosing a girl on Korean DH websites is that they are all photoshopped to hell. The fakers who run the websites are so sneakily deceptive, regularly turning water into wine and regular girls into strange anime/manga hybrids. One way you can get around this is to look for KDHs that have movies of their girls. These are much harder to doctor than photos. In any case, I managed to find a new place called Shiro-Bara that for once, didn't heavily alter their pictures. Low and behold, they had some half decent looking girls. So decided to give it a try one afternoon.[url]http://shiro-bara.net/ladies.html[/url]Called them up beforehand asking who was available and they said which girls would be there and I booked Naomi, who looked quite game. They said call when you get to a hotel and they will send the girl. After some hunting around Uguisudani's north exit, a love hotel haven and centre of the KDHs, found a room and checked in. I then called Shiro-bara to tell them where I was. Perhaps because of my accent or something, the lady asked if I was Japanese (my heart always sinks at this bit). I told them I was half and they said "sorry, she (Naomi) doesn't like foreigners". I asked if any of the other girls would be fine with me and she also said "no, they can't be sent either". Now I know a certain amount of tacit discrimination exists against servicing foreigners in Japan. But perhaps they don't quite get irony in Korea - YOU ARE A BUNCH OF FOREIGNERS TOO!!! I pointed this out politely to her on the phone and hung up - no business for you idiots then.Being in a love hotel with nothing to do does indeed suck, so called up story DH, who I had used before and was pleased with.([url]http://www.storydh.com/main.html[/url]) They said they had one girl - Kanon - available, and I had them send her over. Knock on the door 20 mins later and she was quite cute and seemed friendly, maybe not totally my type. Definitely the girl from the photo in any case. Decided on 100 mins for 25k, paid up and we hit the shower. I had to endure the spraying of disinfectant on my nob, never a fun experience as well as the general wash down. I should have seen the warning signs when I tried to playfully touch her in the shower only for her to reply in crappy Japanese "later, not yet..."As we went to bed, she told me to lie down and said "you can just sleep" - huh? What shite is this? I tried to go for a kiss and she said no, and I realised I was in for a bad ride. She wouldn't let me kiss her body in any way...damn. She grabbed a condom and strapped it on me, even though I wasn't really hard, going straight for CBJ. She then lubed herself up, hopped on and demanded I get on with it...a very depressing situation. Had FS, but all the while she complained it hurt. She also kept asking me if I was done yet. After what seemed like an eternity, I eventually finished and went to get changed, even though 100 mins usually means round two is guaranteed. She asked if something was wrong, don't you want to go again? etc. and I just said I'm going home. No use in pushing the issue. I did however tell the tencho on the phone that she had a bad attitude, I was disappointed and I wouldn't return.So, as you Americans say indeed, "your mileage may vary". Or the car won't start at all. A thoroughly crap experience and I won't bother with them again. So if you do decide to use a KDH, make sure the girl does what you want on the phone to the tencho, specify a nice/popular girl and don't take any shit. AND, unless you are supremely confident that you won't be found out, you should mention that you are a foreigner on the phone beforehand. Whilst you may be turned down, you can at least avoid the discrimination crap before you pay the hotel fee.Ease of ordering: 8/10Looks: 6.5/10Attitude: 0/10Damage: 25k for the girl, 5k for the room = 30,000[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Question about Komachi and its sister shops
Hey All - What do all of the little cartoon icons on the girls' profiles stand for with Komachi and its sister shops?You can see them, for example, here:[url]http://www.s-komachi.jp/before_profile/profile.html?id=244[/url]For example, starting at the top row going left to right, it looks like for this girl:DFK = YesNot sureNot sureBJ = YesBJ with your hands on top of her head (?) = YesRimming = NoFingering = YesTit fucking (?) = NoOn top = Yes69 = YesSpits = Yes (ie doesn't swallow)
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[QUOTE=Dagamaard]Hey All - What do all of the little cartoon icons on the girls' profiles stand for with Komachi and its sister shops?You can see them, for example, here:[url]http://www.s-komachi.jp/before_profile/profile.html?id=244[/url][/quote]The first yellow square says "Basic Play". Then from there, left to right top to bottom, its Deep KissBody KissingLotion PlayBall LickingBJAss LickingFingeringTitty FuckingSumata69CIMCircle is yes, triangle is maybe and X is no.
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[QUOTE=Ktjp Nav]Does anyone know what happened to Marina from Club Boo?She disappeared from their web site.[/QUOTE]Retired perhaps? I enjoyed her services twice so that's too bad. If anyone knows anything else please share.
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[quote=dagamaard]hey all - what do all of the little cartoon icons on the girls' profiles stand for with komachi and its sister shops?you can see them, for example, here:[url]http://www.s-komachi.jp/before_profile/profile.html?id=244[/url]for example, starting at the top row going left to right, it looks like for this girl:dfk = yesnot surenot surebj = yesbj with your hands on top of her head (?) = yesrimming = nofingering = yestit fucking (?) = noon top = yes69 = yesspits = yes (ie doesn't swallow)[/quote]starting left to right, they are:first row:-dfk-whole body kissing-lotion play-ball licking (?) - pretty sure that's what this is.-bjsecond row:-analingus/rimming-fingering-tit-fucking-sumata (simulated sex where the dick rubs between her thighs)-69-can't make out the kanji on the last one, but from the first few, it looks to mean cim (vs no cim allowed)third row without icons--gokkun - swallowing-pretty sure this one is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url]-vibrators-af- anal sex
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The Westin Tokyo
Hi all,I am staying at the Westin Hotel in Tokyo near Ebisu. I have a few questions since this is my first time in Tokyo, and yes I've read the forum.- The hotel offers in-room massage services. Any idea if extra's are available?- Is there any action to be picked up at the hotels bars (they have a few)?- Are there any Pink Salon's or the like in the Ebisu area?Thanks in advance!Dave
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[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Apparently no more than twice a day is advised. If they try to do it more often, I would report them. Reportedly wearing a flak jacket also helps.Best of luck.ES[/QUOTE]Is this supposed to be funny, because I have no idea what you are on about.
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Heading to Japan
I will be in Japan (Tokyo) in march and am very interested in a foreigner friendly experience (either MP or Escort). Unfortunately I am black and have heard it is seriously taboo to "play" with foreigners let alone black/arab foreigners.Any hope?
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I think you watched too much american movie. "lost in translation" does not happen just like that. High end hotel does not have any extra service at all. At least the most I stayed before. You can call those deliver service from the reports before, if you japanese is good. Ebisu doesn't have that much fun for adults. Take JR line one station north, you will be in shibuya. That will be your best pick. Ueno is nice also.[QUOTE=Daved]Hi all,I am staying at the Westin Hotel in Tokyo near Ebisu. I have a few questions since this is my first time in Tokyo, and yes I've read the forum.- The hotel offers in-room massage services. Any idea if extra's are available?- Is there any action to be picked up at the hotels bars (they have a few)?- Are there any Pink Salon's or the like in the Ebisu area?Thanks in advance!Dave[/QUOTE]
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Go to Hinomaru in Shinjuku if you want some BBBJ.They never turn down anyone. [QUOTE=Mushamisi]I will be in Japan (Tokyo) in march and am very interested in a foreigner friendly experience (either MP or Escort). Unfortunately I am black and have heard it is seriously taboo to "play" with foreigners let alone black/arab foreigners.Any hope?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Daved]Hi all,I am staying at the Westin Hotel in Tokyo near Ebisu. I have a few questions since this is my first time in Tokyo, and yes I've read the forum.- The hotel offers in-room massage services. Any idea if extra's are available?- Is there any action to be picked up at the hotels bars (they have a few)?- Are there any Pink Salon's or the like in the Ebisu area?Thanks in advance!Dave[/QUOTE]The only time I had an in hotel massage in Japan it ended up being done by a man in his 50's.Thus I didn't even consider asking after for extras.No loss because I was actually in pain after slipping on some ice and what I needed was a bloody good massage not a reach around.Moreover the legit massage biz in Japan goes out of it's way to emphasize that it is non-sexual.But as I type I find myself thinking that if you did have a suitably aged woman come to give a massage in a hotel room, and it was a skin on skin massage, that could be an indicator that extras are available because most massages in Japan are conducted through clothes, sheets or towels with zero skin on skin contact.I'd say a hotel bar would be a slightly worse place to pick-up a regular girl in than a regular bar because there wouldn't be much traffic. On the other hand if you did happen to find a lone female Japanese traveler in the hotel bar so long as you were half-way attractive and charming it could work out very nicely, because relative to most other places women in Japan are more open to discrete one night stands.
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[QUOTE=Daved]Hi all,I am staying at the Westin Hotel in Tokyo near Ebisu. I have a few questions since this is my first time in Tokyo, and yes I've read the forum.- The hotel offers in-room massage services. Any idea if extra's are available?[/QUOTE]Very probably not.[QUOTE=Daved]- Is there any action to be picked up at the hotels bars (they have a few)?[/QUOTE]I doubt it (though there might always be nanpa possibilities I suppose).[QUOTE=Daved]- Are there any Pink Salon's or the like in the Ebisu area?[/QUOTE]Not that I am aware of. Geographically Gotanda will be the closest area with any sort of action, but otherwise the Yamanote Line will get you easily to the usual places (Shibuya, Shinjuku, Ikebukuro, Sugamo etc.)I might be wrong about any of the above though.
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Ebisu
Ebisu is more of an upscale area, and I think there have been reports of delivery type services in the past, it's not a famous place for P4P. Shibuya, Shinjuku will be your best bets. Distance-wise Shibuya might be your best bet, but prices will be around the 20, 000 yen range depending on how long you want to play. If you want to play below 10, 000 yen, then Shinjuku, Ikebukuro are probably better choices but you will then have to get on the train (or higher taxi fare). I suggest looking at the previous reports for pointers on places that will accept foreigners.I wouldn't even try approaching the Westin massage staff for services. I couldn't imagine the response you would get. I cannot comment on if the hotel will allow a delivery girl into the hotel, or if the service will allow the girl to service customers in a well known hotel like the Westin. All of this being said, perhaps you may consider AM or Club Boo, although I have not used their services.[QUOTE=Daved]Hi all,I am staying at the Westin Hotel in Tokyo near Ebisu. I have a few questions since this is my first time in Tokyo, and yes I've read the forum.- The hotel offers in-room massage services. Any idea if extra's are available?- Is there any action to be picked up at the hotels bars (they have a few)?- Are there any Pink Salon's or the like in the Ebisu area?Thanks in advance!Dave[/QUOTE]
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Westin
[QUOTE=Daved]Hi all,I am staying at the Westin Hotel in Tokyo near Ebisu. I have a few questions since this is my first time in Tokyo, and yes I've read the forum.- The hotel offers in-room massage services. Any idea if extra's are available?- Is there any action to be picked up at the hotels bars (they have a few)?- Are there any Pink Salon's or the like in the Ebisu area?Thanks in advance!Dave[/QUOTE]The Westin is a very upscale hotel! I've stayed there several times, but haven't used the in-house massage services, but it's not China, so I doubt anything is on offer. I found the lobby bar to be VERY quiet. You see gorgeous girls in the lobby, but they're waiting for Japanese friends. I've read reports in the forum of a couple places in town down by the subway stop, but I haven't had time to check them out. The hotel is very convenient to public transportation, and you can take the JR line to Shinjuku or the subway to Roppongi.
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Incalls to high-end hotels?
Like the previous poster, I will also be staying at high-end hotel in Tokyo(Park Hyatt). Will girls from AM, for example, come to the hotel (and will they get hassled on the way in?) Or does one meet the girl in the bar first?
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[QUOTE=Daved]Hi all,I am staying at the Westin Hotel in Tokyo near Ebisu. I have a few questions since this is my first time in Tokyo, and yes I've read the forum.- The hotel offers in-room massage services. Any idea if extra's are available?[/QUOTE]Do you like 50+ blind men? If so you might get lucky...IF you can afford the Westin, then just order takeout from AM.
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Westin Follow Up
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I took one for the team and tried the in-room massage. God massage but thats about it, NO EXTRA's. When I came out of the bathroom naked the girl almost $h! T her pants. Oh well, on to the next attempt.
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[QUOTE=Daved]Thanks everyone for the feedback. I took one for the team and tried the in-room massage. God massage but thats about it, NO EXTRA's. When I came out of the bathroom naked the girl almost $h! T her pants. Oh well, on to the next attempt.[/QUOTE]hahahahaha.. that is the funniest shit I have heard all day. Man this is not the movies and the WESTIN does not offer a rub and tug. Wish I saw your post before you tried it.I can imagine that poor girls face when you walked out naked with a raging gaijin boner.
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The code of the Korean DH - A warning
I reported about a crappy experience with a Korean DH I ordered from in Uguisudani a while ago. I was looking for some info on which would be a good place to order from so that I would be better informed in future and I stumbled upon something interesting I should probably warn you guys about.Anyway, Japanese punters regularly report on their trips to hotel healths, soaplands etc on the internet. If you type in something like 体験レポート and the name of the place you want to know about in google.co.jp, there may be a review or two there to take a look at. I was having a look after my bad experience with story DH, and found this website where guys can report on the individual girls of each Korean health in Tokyo.[url]http://www.kan-deli.net/index.html[/url]They have lots of reports and links to the websites of the healths with dates and names of the girls. The good thing is that they comment on how good looking the girls actually are in person, how their performance is in the bedroom and what services they give. They go into a fair amount of detail - does the girl have piercings, does she smoke, does she speak Japanese or English. What was quite funny was they even list if her breath or pussy smells funny, how tight she is downstairs and what brand of cigarette she smokes! Like listing video game characteristics in some bizarre RPG.So they have a code, to talk about each girl like we do on international sex guide. I had a look around at some other websites and managed to understand this much at least. Kissing is DK, BBBJ is NF (or nama fera in Japanese) and there are a few others I could decipher. I was somewhat vexed by these three which seemed to crop up often in Japanese guy's reports:G着NSNNAfter reading several reports it became clear (and forgive my naiveness if you already know this). G着 (G for gomu) refers to full sex with a condom. NS (nama soto) is unprotected sex, cumming outside the girl. NN (nama naka) refers to unprotected sex cumming inside the girl. Just glancing at the reports, it is clear that almost half the girls regularly give FS without a condom. There are references to girls saying things like "I'm on the pill, so its ok" or "without condom is fine, just make sure you finish outside" and so on. Of course, the punters who report are thrilled to bits with this and expect unprotected FS from Korean girls as standard. There may be further info on this for regular Japanese healths out there but I have yet to see it.In this day and age it seems unbelievable! But there you have it, be very careful when ordering from Korean DH places. Who knows where she's been.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Thanks
Thanks Smith Ed. I look forward to trying them when I get there. I assume they speak (some) english and BBBJ works for me. I may walk around after to see if there are any FS places but it will be great to take a look around in of itself.It will be my first time in Tokyo.
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You will find the phone operator at AM very helpful and knowledgeable about whether any particular hotel is girl friendly or not. I suspect their stable of providers have visited just about every type of hotel available over the years. Just call them and ask.
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[QUOTE=atlasarchw]Like the previous poster, I will also be staying at high-end hotel in Tokyo (Park Hyatt). Will girls from AM, for example, come to the hotel (and will they get hassled on the way in?) Or does one meet the girl in the bar first?[/QUOTE]No, they wouldnt have any problems at all.
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[QUOTE=Mushamisi]Thanks Smith Ed. I look forward to trying them when I get there. I assume they speak (some) english and BBBJ works for me. I may walk around after to see if there are any FS places but it will be great to take a look around in of itself.It will be my first time in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]you are welcome. But remeber. Being polite and go with the flow. If the price is way too high than you expected or higher than you search online, walk away. Do you look white or asian? If you want FS, try the massage place near shinjuku, not in the kabukicho. 10K for 30 mins and some other place in takanobaba. AM would be nice and very easy to get some. If you wondering in shibuya, go to grimpeur. Some of the girls are willing to do FS but remember to be polite about it. No means no. Soapland was a great experience, once in a life time is good enough. But very experience. Depends on what you looking for, I can give you more info on other places.
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[QUOTE=Daved]Thanks everyone for the feedback. I took one for the team and tried the in-room massage. God massage but thats about it, NO EXTRA's. When I came out of the bathroom naked the girl almost $h! T her pants. Oh well, on to the next attempt.[/QUOTE]Wow, you are really taking one for the team. But how was the massage? Go to asian feel in shimjuku or shibuya, you will always get a happy ending. Location please see preivous reports.
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[QUOTE=Mushamisi]Thanks Smith Ed. I look forward to trying them when I get there. I assume they speak (some) english and BBBJ works for me. I may walk around after to see if there are any FS places but it will be great to take a look around in of itself.It will be my first time in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]This is something for everyone. It's a full list of massage place in tokyo. Rule of thumb, if the place only has 2 or 3 staff, it means a crappy establishment. If the place is very discrete and high volume of staff, you would have a lot fun. But doubt check some of the places are not offer any reach around or FS.[url]http://deli-hyo.com/shinjuku/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Smith Ed] If you want FS, try the massage place near shinjuku, not in the kabukicho. 10K for 30 mins and some other place in takanobaba. AM would be nice and very easy to get some.[/QUOTE]Takadanobaba. 1-2 stops on the Yamanote line from Shinjuku station.
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Japanese GFs?
This may be a little off-topic, but am sitting in Narita airport on my way back to the States from Bangkok. Looking at some pretty girls, which reminded me of the time I used to date a Japanese American girl. My question is, if I came over here for 3-6 months (to teach English, for example), is Japan the sort of place that being white is going to lead to my easily dating local women? I don't mean P4P, which I'd be likely doing either way, I just wondered if I had any hope of dating a local?In Thailand, it seems rather unlikely, but in Argentina and a host of other places, its pretty easy.Thanks,Shoe
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The school girl costumes
Hello, fellow gaijin sempais,I recently found this site and have realized that for some weird reason, looking for sex or no, I have visited just about everyday. Weird but as educational as it has been to discovering the sex underground of tokyo, some of the stories are just plain out great entertainment to help me through my boring life here in japan.With that said, I have decided that I shall make my first attempt into the world of mongreling. (is that a word?) I mean, when in japan, right?For some background info, I have a japanese girlfriend who is quite sexy and yes, we do bang quite a bit. I also go to the occasional bar and get my fair share of one night stands as well. So while thats all good fun (and free) there has been some fantasies that come festered themselves to the point where I'm just ready to hell, give it a go.I'm trying to ease my way into this scene here and I think a good place to start would be a pink salon. I've always been curious about the japanese school girl look and kinda want to go to a pink salon that has that going on.Anyone have any good recommendations? I've read about that sekai place out in gotanda but it seems a bit difficult to get into, being gaijin and all. So if anyone wants to help a rookie out, thatll be most helpful. I will of course, log my experiences here as well.
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There are no pink salons any more, but there is one fashion health (whether they accept foreigners during this particular season is anyone's guess) called New York. You can find it on the west side of the Yamanote line, not far from the station. [url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10102/[/url]There is also a Chinese rub & tub place on the east side of the station. [url]http://www.e-hyakkaen.com/[/url] Service here depends very much on the girl. For example, Tanpopo will ask for an extra 3000 yen and take her top off for you, while Koyuki will do the same for free and even go as far as licking your Johnson if you are on good terms. I got some sumata from her last time even![QUOTE=Daved]Hi all,I am staying at the Westin Hotel in Tokyo near Ebisu. I have a few questions since this is my first time in Tokyo, and yes I've read the forum.- The hotel offers in-room massage services. Any idea if extra's are available?- Is there any action to be picked up at the hotels bars (they have a few)?- Are there any Pink Salon's or the like in the Ebisu area?Thanks in advance!Dave[/QUOTE]
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My luck sucks...
Ok, went to Asian Feeling tonight (er, yesterday evening). Told them I had been there before and wanted the 60 min for 6k yen. Brings me back, girl comes in (great rack!) walks me to the shower, I shower alone., she drys me (minimal touching), starts massage, after 60 minutes she says thank you and I'm on my way. Had to head back to the hotel to take things into my own hands.
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[QUOTE=Shoebridge]TMy question is, if I came over here for 3-6 months (to teach English, for example), is Japan the sort of place that being white is going to lead to my easily dating local women? I don't mean P4P, which I'd be likely doing either way, I just wondered if I had any hope of dating a local?[/QUOTE]Generally, YES.Have a read through the NAMPA section, there are lots of clues on how to meet local girls for one night stands or LT relationships.
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Nippori option
As for Tokyo, in my opinion nothing beats Yoshiwara, but since it is on the pricey side, I sometimes hit this little Korean massage joint by Nippori Station as my cheaper option. It's called Star Relaxation Massage. Exit Nippori eki, south side, go down the stairs turn right, take first left and there it is. Massage sign written in katakana. Under one minute walk from the station. 100% gaijin ok. Been there 5 times, every girl is attractive and under 30. They have 3 courses. Short 9, 000 middle 13, 000 and long 17, 000. I always do the short. Wash-massage-HJ-wash. Good service. Girls always get naked, you can grab t&a, some will do a bit of body licking or sumata. Considering it's under ichiman, girls are hot, easy to get to, I'd say it's a good value.I have yet to try the middle or longer courses. MAYBE there is BJ/FS, MAYBE it's just a longer massage. Not sure. Check it out. Enjoy.[url]www.star-es.com[/url]
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[QUOTE=Shoganai Ne]Hello, fellow gaijin sempais,I recently found this site and have realized that for some weird reason, looking for sex or no, I have visited just about everyday. Weird but as educational as it has been to discovering the sex underground of tokyo, some of the stories are just plain out great entertainment to help me through my boring life here in japan.With that said, I have decided that I shall make my first attempt into the world of mongreling. (is that a word?) I mean, when in japan, right?For some background info, I have a japanese girlfriend who is quite sexy and yes, we do bang quite a bit. I also go to the occasional bar and get my fair share of one night stands as well. So while thats all good fun (and free) there has been some fantasies that come festered themselves to the point where I'm just ready to hell, give it a go.I'm trying to ease my way into this scene here and I think a good place to start would be a pink salon. I've always been curious about the japanese school girl look and kinda want to go to a pink salon that has that going on.Anyone have any good recommendations? I've read about that sekai place out in gotanda but it seems a bit difficult to get into, being gaijin and all. So if anyone wants to help a rookie out, thatll be most helpful. I will of course, log my experiences here as well.[/QUOTE]Search the forum for Jan Jan. Its in Sugamo near Ikebukero on the Yamanote line. Its exactly what you are looking for. And cheap enough (3000 yen during the day) that if you don't enjoy it. Its not like you lost out in the wallet much.Mayu is quite young and cute if she is working there still.
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[QUOTE=Daved]Ok, went to Asian Feeling tonight (er, yesterday evening). Told them I had been there before and wanted the 60 min for 6k yen. Brings me back, girl comes in (great rack!) walks me to the shower, I shower alone., she drys me (minimal touching), starts massage, after 60 minutes she says thank you and I'm on my way. Had to head back to the hotel to take things into my own hands.[/QUOTE]You should ask for the Oil Massage course (10,000yen) to get the happy ending.
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Grimpeur - Kurumi
Here's my report on my first visit to Grimpeur, on a weekday afternoon.I was just wandering around Shibuya killing time when I stumbled onto it and happened to recognise it immediately from reading a posting here a few days earlier.So as I had some time I decided to check things out. First impression was the staff didn't seem to show any surprise about a foreigner being there. They did ask (in Japanese) if I spoke Japanese (which I do, somewhat).Shown photo cards for the 3 girls apparently available. All 3 looked reasonable. Each card had height, cup size etc as well as small print with all the various services (in Japanese) each girl could provide. Unfortunately I couldn't read what they were but clearly some girls do more than others, as expected.I chose "Kurumi" for 60 minutes of play time. Was escorted to the love hotel across the street, which I had read here was not the best, but decided in my limited available time that it would serve the purpose and save figuring out how to try and advise room number and so on.Waited in the room what seemed like a long time. Probably 20 minutes. Room itself was plain, as expected. Not exactly dirty, but certainly not new. Sheets and towels at least were spotless and fresh.Eventually Kurumi arrives. On the bright side, she looked as good as in the photo I thought so no disappointment there. She was not very talkative and went straight for the toothbrush shortly after complaining about it being too cold and too bright.She then slips quickly out of her clothes and we showered together with a bit of attention to the important bits but definitely more practical than GFE. She gargled with that iodine mouthwash I'd read about here, and asked me to do the same.So up until this point things seem to be going reasonably as expected.We head for the bed. And she turns her back and goes for the TV guide. And reads. And reads. Not a good sign. So I ask her to come back and forget the TV, but it takes quite some persuasion to get her to agree.When she is eventually on the bed she is just lying there doing nothing. I ask if there is anything in particular she likes, and she says "everything" (when it is clear the real answer is "nothing").Asked if kissing was OK, she said yes, I thought maybe that will be a start and after the iodine gargle I figured DFK would be offered, but her mouth was shut tighter than a fugu's arsehole so gave up on that fairly quickly.She eventually started on BBBJ and did quite a good job of it in a few positions, but a few times looked worried that I was about to cum and made it clear that wasn't on the menu.She asked several times how I liked to "finish". But it seemed that everything I asked for was not on her menu. Maybe I just needed to be more assertive from the outset.There was an odd point in between all this conversation where she did seem to accept that traditional FS was in fact on the menu, and asked whether or not I'd prefer to use a condom (and seemed indifferent either way. Which surprised me for a J-girl who I thought would know better).In the end we finished with sumata which was very pleasant and a first time for me, although I wondered just how safe that might be, particularly given she seemed to not be too concerned about offering "nama" FS.Looks: 7/10. C-section scar; soft somewhat empty feeling breasts but otherwise quite attractiveGFE: 1/10. Almost no eye contact; extremely passiveCommunication: Not great, but passable in Japanese; very limited EnglishBBBJ: 7/10. Could have had a +1 each for CIM or more enthusiasm and eye contactOther services: 0/10 (ultimately most things weren't on offer)Repeat this girl: NopeRepeat at Grimpeur? Not in a hurry. Looks like the range of girls on the web site is quite large, but presumably many are off-limits to foreigners. I didn't have a chance to try any of the cheaper (or more expensive) P4P venues, and with quite a bit to choose from and a not spectacular experience here I think I would go somewhere else first but perhaps give Grimpeur a second chance if I happened to find myself with an hour to spare on its doorstep again some time.Conclusion: an interesting introduction to Japanese P4P for me, with a first experience of sumata and a decent (but expensive and CIM-less BBBJ) with a pretty young real J-girl.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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beachboi LOL
"There was an odd point in between all this conversation where she did seem to accept that traditional FS was in fact on the menu, and asked whether or not I'd prefer to use a condom (and seemed indifferent either way. Which surprised me for a J-girl who I thought would know better).'--LOL who are these intelligent J-girls you know that are so sexually responsible? Who are these mysterious J-girls who insist on the guy using a condom???!!
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Hole in 1
Has anyone used hole in 1 recently?Is it friendly to foreigners who dont speak japanese?
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I'm new in town and live in Ebisu, and have no experience in Tokyo underground sex life.I'm looking to get a good looking Japanese girl to my place and willing to pay around 40,000Yen / hour.I'll be more than thankful if someone can recommend to me a very gaijin-friendly website or phone number with only English speaking since i don't know a single word of Japanese. Something quick & simple.Cheers!
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Craigslist
Has anyone tried any of the services advertised under "Erotic" on Craiglist ? Their seem to be a bunch of ladies freelancing and was looking for feedback.
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H I 1
[QUOTE=Greektyranny1234]Has anyone used hole in 1 recently?Is it friendly to foreigners who dont speak japanese?[/QUOTE]Not recently, but had カテリーン about 3 years ago. I can recommend her, good body, nice tits (enhanced), definitely not 23... maybe late 20's or even 30 by now? She's not American either... eastern European if I recall. The pictures are real. FS was an extra 10k I think.[url]http://holein-1.jp/profile.php?id=012[/url]I did speak Japanese on the phone, so not sure what the situation is for non-speakers... can't help out on this point. Would say there is a good chance whoever answers the phone won't speak good English. Just my impression, but you can find out with one phone call.ES
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[QUOTE=Bullet]Has anyone tried any of the services advertised under "Erotic" on Craiglist ? Their seem to be a bunch of ladies freelancing and was looking for feedback.[/QUOTE]Good service from one, 20. 000 yen FS, girl 7, BBJ 7, FS 7Offer massage but you can get FS.
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[QUOTE=Strong Sky]I'm new in town and live in Ebisu, and have no experience in Tokyo underground sex life.I'm looking to get a good looking Japanese girl to my place and willing to pay around 40,000Yen / hour.I'll be more than thankful if someone can recommend to me a very gaijin-friendly website or phone number with only English speaking since i don't know a single word of Japanese. Something quick & simple.Cheers![/QUOTE]Try Asian Mystique [url]http://www.asianmystique.com/top.html[/url] It's a bit more expensive, and whether or not they meet your definition of "good looking" is a matter of personal preference, but you can't beat the service if you don't speak a single word of Japanese.Manami (aka Tokyo Melty Kiss) is also a good choice. She's good looking and does incall, and many have commented on her skills. [url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url]Finally, Club Boo is an option, although the general consensus is that it is the least gaijin friendly and has the most question marks, but some folks swear by it. [url]http://www.clubboo.jp/frames/home.htm[/url] The biggest point in its favor is that some claim that the Club Boo girls are more attractive, but the biggest negative is that FS is not guaranteed. Beyond that, RTFF.
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[QUOTE=Bullet]Has anyone tried any of the services advertised under "Erotic" on Craiglist ? Their seem to be a bunch of ladies freelancing and was looking for feedback.[/QUOTE]I've done a significant amount of research, and I have not used any because my impressions are that 1) some of them are fake 2) others are high maintenance - which is not what I'm looking for and 3) most of them charge more than AM, TMK, or CB. But I'd be interested in hearing if anyone has had a more positive experience than mine.
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Comparison
[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Try Asian Mystique [url]http://www.asianmystique.com/top.html[/url] It's a bit more expensive, and whether or not they meet your definition of "good looking" is a matter of personal preference, but you can't beat the service if you don't speak a single word of Japanese.Manami (aka Tokyo Melty Kiss) is also a good choice. She's good looking and does incall, and many have commented on her skills. [url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url]Finally, Club Boo is an option, although the general consensus is that it is the least gaijin friendly and has the most question marks, but some folks swear by it. [url]http://www.clubboo.jp/frames/home.htm[/url] The biggest point in its favor is that some claim that the Club Boo girls are more attractive, but the biggest negative is that FS is not guaranteed. Beyond that, RTFF.[/QUOTE]I've tried Asian Mystique, Club Boo and recently Nasty Dolls. I must agree with the consensus here. For the non-Japanese speaker who can afford it, this is the way to go. First of all, it is easy; just a phone call to an English speaking person from the comfort of your hotel room. Second, there is no risk of gaijin rejection. Third, the girls all speak passable English; some nearly fluent.After trying them all, I recommend AM. It has always been straightforward, 2 pops, get what you paid for service. Club Boo has been hit or miss for me. As Gaijin Otoko has pointed out FS is not always guaranteed. Some girls tried to upsell me for the FS, some included it for the agreed price and others would only provide a BBBJ period. I did not find them that more attractive than AM. I've only tried Nasty Dolls once. There were only 2 girls available when I called in the afternoon to book that evening and only 3 available for the following day. I only wanted the 45 minute option but the girl I wanted would only accept 90 minutes which is the same price AM charges for 2 hours. I made the mistake of taking the 45 minute one and was disappointed. I think she goes for 45 minutes since she is desperate for business based on her looks. YMMV. Just my POV.OAH
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UCLA Little Bear - Sae (i think)
Went off to UCLA Little Bear for the first time tonight, on the way home.Was about 10: 30pm, so I wasn't sure if the girls were going to be tired or not (seems the shift is from 5pm onwards) but I thought I would try my luck anyway.Knew about the place from reading the forum, and I used to live in Ikebukuro a few years ago, and bought international food and alcohol at the Yamaya across the street.Went up, and the manager was kind of freindly. First asked if I can talk Japanese (mine is passable), which I confirmed. He then said 30 minutes ok? And asked if? Was ok (gamufera. Covered BJ) and pointed at two girls on the wall. I can't really feel anything with a covered BJ, so I asked if? (namafera. BBBJ) was ok. Thats what I was there for, wasn't going to try and get honban.He said it was ok for the 45 minutes course.Damage was 11000 Yen for the 45 mins, plus 1000 for being after 5pm, plus 2000 for shimei (choosing) which I guess I paid because I asked for someone who did BBBJ, even though I didn't get to choose, and wasnt quite sure who I was going to end up with. Plus an extra 1000 yen, which I assume was a gaijin tax. So 15000 total. A little more than I thought, but I wasn't going to haggle. Thats disrespectful.Anyway, wait in the waiting room for about 5 mins. A Japanese guy ahead of me. Both of us avoiding eye contact like the plague. He went in to a sideroom first. I was ushered about 3 mins later into a different room.Walked into the room. Which is TINY, as other people have mentioned. But functional I guess. And quite clean if a little old. A bed, a small area for your clothes and stuff, and a shower.The girl who met me at the door was (I think!) named? (Sae) 19 Years Old and Japanese.I forgot to get her name, but looking at the online schedule, I'm pretty sure its her.Anyway. She was a little bit plump, but not huge by any means. Just a little bit of extra weight on her to what I'm used to, but she carried it well, and it gave her some decent breasts too.She told me she was 19, and she looked it too. She had a REALLY cute face. I mean, REALLY smiley and super cute.I disrobed and so did she, and she led me into the shower, where she washed me down quite functionally (not a good sign I thought) but she seemed really freindly and we chatted quite comfortably. She gave me the mouthwash to use (a first for me) but that was fine. Didn't taste that bad.We chatted the whole time in Japanese (as I mentioned, mine is not great, but it works).Anyway, after washing me, I went out and dried myself and sat on the bed. She finished herself in the shower, and came and lay down next to me.Started with DFK. She had REALLY soft lips, and was quite into it by the sound, little noises and all. Or she was a good actress. Either way it was nice. Very GFE. I touched her breasts a bit and brushed my hand all over her back and tummy, which she seemed to enjoy. Then she slowly moved down to the BBBJ. Seemed very into it, lots of energy and really putting in the effort. CIM to finish and took it like a champion. When she was sure I had finished twitching, she moved off to spit it out, giggling a little bit.There was still about 15 minutes left, so we chatted about my work and my country, she mentioned she was going to University at the moment. And that was that. Smiling, she waved to me as I left.Really overall a great experience. Quite GFE, and very very freindly and smiley and soft.Face. 9. 5/10. Really really kawaii. Much cuter than I expected.Body. 8/10. A little bit heavier than I'm used to, but nice breasts and really soft skin.Attitude. 11/10. Super freindly, and really nice, always smiling, chatting and giggling.BBBJCIM. 8/10. I've had better, but it was still good. And along with the attitude, felt more like a GFE BJ, than a provider BJ, so that was more than fine!Overall 9. 5/10. Great experience, much better than I expected. Went in with just an itch to scratch, and left smiling after a nice GFE.Return to UCLA?. Definately.Repeat with Sae?. Most definately.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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tks
[QUOTE=Mar Deepack]Good service from one, 20. 000 yen FS, girl 7, BBJ 7, FS 7Offer massage but you can get FS.[/QUOTE]Appreciate that. Any chance you can tell me what day you saw the ad so I can narrow it down ? Sorry not a member so can't receive pms.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko]Try Asian Mystique [url]http://www.asianmystique.com/top.html[/url] It's a bit more expensive, and whether or not they meet your definition of "good looking" is a matter of personal preference, but you can't beat the service if you don't speak a single word of Japanese.Manami (aka Tokyo Melty Kiss) is also a good choice. She's good looking and does incall, and many have commented on her skills. [url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url]Finally, Club Boo is an option, although the general consensus is that it is the least gaijin friendly and has the most question marks, but some folks swear by it. [url]http://www.clubboo.jp/frames/home.htm[/url] The biggest point in its favor is that some claim that the Club Boo girls are more attractive, but the biggest negative is that FS is not guaranteed. Beyond that, RTFF.[/QUOTE]Just one quibble: Club Boo is most definitely gaijin-friendly. But it operates like a Japanese service, in that FS is definitely not included in the official package from the shop. I suppose that can lead to misunderstandings with fresh gaijin.
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[QUOTE=Nino]Just one quibble: Club Boo is most definitely gaijin-friendly. But it operates like a Japanese service, in that FS is definitely not included in the official package from the shop. I suppose that can lead to misunderstandings with fresh gaijin.[/QUOTE]I am not excited about the idea of maybe having to pay an extra 10,000 for FS. Consider Club Boo is pricier than normal DH, I would give them a pass. However for the non-Japanese speaker it is one of the few options.
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ok, thanks to some advice of the more experienced users of this website, i armed myself with as much information as i could hold on my iphone and headed out to enjoy tokyo's finest. or, at least i was hoping so.started off by going to the ever so popular jan jan in sugamo. i have been to sugamo a few times before, never to get a bj, but at least i was somewhat familiar with where the action spots were. ironically enough, i started off by taking the wrong exit from sugamo and went to the opposide side of the station, where most of the izakayas and pachiko parlors were. strolled through the streets around there looking at a bunch of pink salons, but couldn't find jan jan. i ended up at one at the end of a street called 'nice lady. ' the guy waved me in, was really nice about it, and i walked downstairs and was relieved of a quick 3000yen. without saying much, which was my plan, i tried to act as cool as possible and just go with the flow. i was lead into a half closed off couch, took a seat, and then was waited on by a waiter (?) who pointed at a drink menu posted. paid 1000yen for a beer which i didn't even drink.so then a girl came, older, chubbier, probably mid 30's at best, not ugly but nothing special. i was a little dissapointed but i at least could have seen it coming. she washed me down, put on a condom, and then did her thing. it was a very uneventful 10-15 minutes where i struggled to even keep it up. some announcements were made and then she just cleaned me up and headed out. no, i didn't get the satisfaction of cummin and honestly, i don't think she cared much. before she left, she said something about how the next girl would be really cute so i should just be patient. at least thats what i figured she said. low and behold, yea, the next girl was quite beautiful. very cute, sexy sexy body, very gfe, lots of smiling and giggling. we chatted for a bit, did some dfk and she then did her business on my business as well. it was like night and day. she was very adept and i was in the mood to reciprocate as well. i was surprised that she became wet, considering how many guys touched her manko everyday, but yeah, she got into it and so did i. a short 15 minutes later and i finished and i think she did too, although i can't really tell. anyways, cleaned up again and walked out with her in hand. she was nice and smiled the whole time.4000 yen for 2 cbj, one from a cute, younger 20's blonde japanese girl who was sexy. not a bad start for my first experience.so i was pretty satisfied after this blond bombshell and should've just went home but i figured i would at least try to locate jan jan. finally ended up on the other side of the station and soon easily enough, found the bj alley with jan jan written in huge katakana letters on the sign. i went straight there and smiled at the guy in front. he was very polite and i think thought i was a regular. i smoothly walked in and paid the 3000yen to an old guy and was led into a booth near the front. there was a guy in front of me, who seemed to have a great time, based on the moans i heard from his girl. the place was pretty empty, maybe 2-3 other guys in there. i peeked a bit and found all the girls working to be skinny, long blonde hair girls. all seemed young and quite sexy.this got me quite nerve racked as thoughts of 'yes, i will get a cute girl since all the girls here are cute', vs 'fricken a, all the cute girls are taken and i'm going to be left with an ugly broad. ' kept bugging me. but whatever i guess, its a 3000yen test trial. so then i get a pretty tall girl, thin and actually very attractive looking to come my way. i'd give her an 8 at first sight. i think her name was yuu. she sat down, very cheery and we chatted for a bit. maybe after 2-3 minutes, she was getting ready to do her thing but i trapped her into talking to me more. yes, i did say trap. since i was pretty empty from my previous visit, i was in no hurry to rush things. i figured i'd go out of the norm and bit and engage her in some broken japanese conversation. asked her what her hobbies were, where she was from, etc. etc. etc., and she seemed to soak it up all happily. i guess these girls don't get many guys that care for them more than their oral abilities. so yeah, i let her talk a bit which i think she really enjoyed. after about 10 minutes or so, she looked like she wanted to give my johnson some good lovin not because she had to, but because she wanted to. which was a wonderful thing. she was really into it and i ended up 69'ing her right there. not sure if this is standard procedure for a pink salon but hell, she was pretty cute and wet so why not. i finished in her mouth and surprisingly, she didn't spit it out! pretty shocked to see her take it down like a trooper.we kissed a bit more and i left a very satisfied man.3000yen for a cute and fun girl who gave bbbj and cim plus swallow. not bad, not bad at all.so fast forward to last week, i decided to try my luck to find a place with young girls in school girl uniforms, which was my goal initially from day 1. went to a place in otsuka called 'smiles. ' it was reviewed once a few months ago but not really adequately so i didn't really know what to expect. my japanese isn't nearly enough to get into this place so i ended up just doing the ol point and go. they had all the girls pictures up so i choose a girl i thought was pretty cute. ended up choosing seira. [url]http://smiles-o.com/seira.html#[/url] her pic here actually looks like her. i'd say 95%. so quite satisfied with that. there were tons of guys being serviced too. at least 15, with about 5 more in the lobby waiting their turn. i walked by a bunch of them on my way to my couch and all the girls were in school girl skirts and just doing their thing. a really weird scene to see 10 guys just getting their knob shined all in the same room. there was basically no privacy at all. which i guess was normal. seira came, we chatted, she was very cute, said she was from chiba and that she worked everyday, sun up to sun down. wow. i was like, wow. we did some dfk and she gave me a bbbj. technique wasnt as good as the one i got in jan jan but hell, she was really cute. i mean, look at the picture fellas. i got to touch her and finger her as well, she didn't mind it as she got pretty wet too. 30 minutes later, cim and she spitted it out into the towels. cleaned me out and we cuddled for a bit. she was very gfe. it looks like a lot of the guys there are regulars as i heard a lot of personal chit chat from the other guys. hey, they all seemed like they had a great time so i can't really blame them for blowing their hard earned otaku dollars getting serviced by cute young japanese school girls.5000yen since i choose the girl and i not a single regret at all. will definitely repeat. probably will try the 5 girls for 7000yen next time. they rotate every 10 minutes i think. but man, can't really beat that right? i mean, 5 different girls. about 1200 a chick. thats a steal right there.so there you have it. 3 pink salons all with pretty unique services. id probably stick with smiles in otsuka but jan jan didn't disappoint either.[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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[QUOTE=Shoganai Ne]My Japanese isn't nearly enough to get into this place so I ended up just doing the ol point and go...[/QUOTE]Does this mean that you are Asian and were pretending to be Japanese by not talking much?
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I've been to Grimpeur twice with nearly identical experiences as have been posted before, so I don't really have much to add. They gave me 2 choices and the girl I chose was new and looked exactly like the picture that was shown to me. The conversation and service were both good enough and FS was on the menu so I couldn't complain. If you're looking for something with a cute, young Japanese girl that is foreigner friendly, you surely can't go wrong here.But I decided to see what else was out there, and I ended up at a place very close to Grimpeur (same street) called Shanai-Renai ([url]http://www.ol-health.net/[/url]), which is the same sort of deal but the girls dress up as Office Ladies. It's on B1 and the reception room is actually for both Shanai-Renai and Gakuen ([url]http://www.shibuya-fuzoku.jp/[/url]). There was actually another Japanese customer there waiting, but it didn't seem to affect my chances of getting service. After asking if I spoke Japanese they pulled out a few cards of girls and since I didn't have much time I just chose the one who was available the soonest. They did give me an option of maybe 5 girls though, so a bit more than Grimpeur. Off to the hotel I went and after checking in, I called them to tell them where I was. 10 minutes later the girl arrived but looked a bit different than the picture in a disappointing way. She said she's been working there for 6 months, so I'm guessing they took the picture when she first started and then doctored it up a bit. The conversation was alright, though, and the service was good. She was aware of the options that I had chosen and asked how I wanted things to go. I didn't ask about FS, but I have a feeling if I had wanted it, it would have been available. The girl was a bit more relaxed with the time than the girl at Grimpeur had been, but overall the experience was very similiar to Grimpeur.On a separate occasion, I also went to Ikebukuro hoping to go to Cosplay Sunshine after seeing their website ([url]http://cos-sun.com/[/url]). I went to the place indicated on the map and found it pretty easily. But as soon as I went in, I was turned away. I tried talking to the guy in Japanese a bit and said this wasn't my first time, but no go. To get there, though, go up to 3F and there are two unmarked doors. It's the one on the right. At first I went in the door on the left first but it was the wrong door. Completely by chance yesterday, though, I happened upon the site of the door on the left ([url]http://www.se-den.com[/url]). They said on their website that they are door number #301 and they didn't seem to mind that I was a foreigner when I walked in there by mistake, though, so maybe you would have better chances there. After striking out at Cosplay Sunshine, however, I decided to go to Ikebukuro Lip ([url]http://ikebukuro-lip.com/[/url]) to try my chances there. It's pretty easy to find and after they asked me if I spoke Japanese, they didn't seem to have an issue with my being there. In fact, they brought out all of the photos of the girls working at the time that I went -- maybe 8 or 10 -- and the only thing he said was that of course he would have to call the girl I chose to check to make sure she's okay with a foreigner. But I was happy to at least have my choice from all the available girls and it turned out the girl I chose - Karen - was okay with foreigners. She showed up at the hotel a few minutes after I called the store to confirm my room number, and she looked pretty much like the picture actually. She was, however, the least GFE and seemed pretty down to business about everything. The service was just alright and you could tell she was trying to push things along a bit at times. She was nice enough and did most of the things we discussed, but FS was definitely not on the table. She was probably the only one I wouldn't go back to again. The place -- Ikebukuro Lip -- seemed alright though and I might try them again if I'm in Ikeburko again.All in all, though, my experiences have been pretty positive even when going off of the tried and true path of Grimpeur. All of these experiences have been on weekdays during the day and they were all done entirely in Japanese, but I was happy to find out that there are at least some options out there other than Grimpeur.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Upsell
[QUOTE=Lion]I am not excited about the idea of maybe having to pay an extra 10,000 for FS. Consider Club Boo is pricier than normal DH, I would give them a pass. However for the non-Japanese speaker it is one of the few options.[/QUOTE]I've tried Club Boo five times. 3 times they charged me an extra 10k for the FS, 1 time it was included in the basic fee and 1 time I was refused at any price for more than BBBJ.YMMV.OAH
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I think so because I went there today (to Smiles O) and they definitely weren't foreigner-friendly, no matter how much I talked to them in Japanese.[QUOTE=Xslikx]Does this mean that you are Asian and were pretending to be Japanese by not talking much?[/QUOTE]
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Smiles
i visit smiles myself once in a while. i'm surprised you are able to get in, as there is a sign that distinctively says, "no foreigners, " in japanese. if people are able to get in, better so. there are other pink salons in the area, but this one seems to have the highest quality girls, and the best service. use the link below for a discount.[url]http://smiles-o.com/coupon.html[/url][quote=shoganai ne]ok, thanks to some advice of the more experienced users of this website, i armed myself with as much information as i could hold on my iphone and headed out to enjoy tokyo's finest. or, at least i was hoping so.started off by going to the ever so popular jan jan in sugamo. i have been to sugamo a few times before, never to get a bj, but at least i was somewhat familiar with where the action spots were. ironically enough, i started off by taking the wrong exit from sugamo and went to the opposide side of the station, where most of the izakayas and pachiko parlors were. strolled through the streets around there looking at a bunch of pink salons, but couldn't find jan jan. i ended up at one at the end of a street called 'nice lady. ' the guy waved me in, was really nice about it, and i walked downstairs and was relieved of a quick 3000yen. without saying much, which was my plan, i tried to act as cool as possible and just go with the flow. i was lead into a half closed off couch, took a seat, and then was waited on by a waiter (?) who pointed at a drink menu posted. paid 1000yen for a beer which i didn't even drink.so then a girl came, older, chubbier, probably mid 30's at best, not ugly but nothing special. i was a little dissapointed but i at least could have seen it coming. she washed me down, put on a condom, and then did her thing. it was a very uneventful 10-15 minutes where i struggled to even keep it up. some announcements were made and then she just cleaned me up and headed out. no, i didn't get the satisfaction of cummin and honestly, i don't think she cared much. before she left, she said something about how the next girl would be really cute so i should just be patient. at least thats what i figured she said. low and behold, yea, the next girl was quite beautiful. very cute, sexy sexy body, very gfe, lots of smiling and giggling. we chatted for a bit, did some dfk and she then did her business on my business as well. it was like night and day. she was very adept and i was in the mood to reciprocate as well. i was surprised that she became wet, considering how many guys touched her manko everyday, but yeah, she got into it and so did i. a short 15 minutes later and i finished and i think she did too, although i can't really tell. anyways, cleaned up again and walked out with her in hand. she was nice and smiled the whole time.4000 yen for 2 cbj, one from a cute, younger 20's blonde japanese girl who was sexy. not a bad start for my first experience.so i was pretty satisfied after this blond bombshell and should've just went home but i figured i would at least try to locate jan jan. finally ended up on the other side of the station and soon easily enough, found the bj alley with jan jan written in huge katakana letters on the sign. i went straight there and smiled at the guy in front. he was very polite and i think thought i was a regular. i smoothly walked in and paid the 3000yen to an old guy and was led into a booth near the front. there was a guy in front of me, who seemed to have a great time, based on the moans i heard from his girl. the place was pretty empty, maybe 2-3 other guys in there. i peeked a bit and found all the girls working to be skinny, long blonde hair girls. all seemed young and quite sexy.this got me quite nerve racked as thoughts of 'yes, i will get a cute girl since all the girls here are cute', vs 'fricken a, all the cute girls are taken and i'm going to be left with an ugly broad. ' kept bugging me. but whatever i guess, its a 3000yen test trial. so then i get a pretty tall girl, thin and actually very attractive looking to come my way. i'd give her an 8 at first sight. i think her name was yuu. she sat down, very cheery and we chatted for a bit. maybe after 2-3 minutes, she was getting ready to do her thing but i trapped her into talking to me more. yes, i did say trap. since i was pretty empty from my previous visit, i was in no hurry to rush things. i figured i'd go out of the norm and bit and engage her in some broken japanese conversation. asked her what her hobbies were, where she was from, etc. etc. etc., and she seemed to soak it up all happily. i guess these girls don't get many guys that care for them more than their oral abilities. so yeah, i let her talk a bit which i think she really enjoyed. after about 10 minutes or so, she looked like she wanted to give my johnson some good lovin not because she had to, but because she wanted to. which was a wonderful thing. she was really into it and i ended up 69'ing her right there. not sure if this is standard procedure for a pink salon but hell, she was pretty cute and wet so why not. i finished in her mouth and surprisingly, she didn't spit it out! pretty shocked to see her take it down like a trooper.we kissed a bit more and i left a very satisfied man.3000yen for a cute and fun girl who gave bbbj and cim plus swallow. not bad, not bad at all.so fast forward to last week, i decided to try my luck to find a place with young girls in school girl uniforms, which was my goal initially from day 1. went to a place in otsuka called 'smiles. ' it was reviewed once a few months ago but not really adequately so i didn't really know what to expect. my japanese isn't nearly enough to get into this place so i ended up just doing the ol point and go. they had all the girls pictures up so i choose a girl i thought was pretty cute. ended up choosing seira. [url]http://smiles-o.com/seira.html#[/url] her pic here actually looks like her. i'd say 95%. so quite satisfied with that. there were tons of guys being serviced too. at least 15, with about 5 more in the lobby waiting their turn. i walked by a bunch of them on my way to my couch and all the girls were in school girl skirts and just doing their thing. a really weird scene to see 10 guys just getting their knob shined all in the same room. there was basically no privacy at all. which i guess was normal. seira came, we chatted, she was very cute, said she was from chiba and that she worked everyday, sun up to sun down. wow. i was like, wow. we did some dfk and she gave me a bbbj. technique wasnt as good as the one i got in jan jan but hell, she was really cute. i mean, look at the picture fellas. i got to touch her and finger her as well, she didn't mind it as she got pretty wet too. 30 minutes later, cim and she spitted it out into the towels. cleaned me out and we cuddled for a bit. she was very gfe. it looks like a lot of the guys there are regulars as i heard a lot of personal chit chat from the other guys. hey, they all seemed like they had a great time so i can't really blame them for blowing their hard earned otaku dollars getting serviced by cute young japanese school girls.5000yen since i choose the girl and i not a single regret at all. will definitely repeat. probably will try the 5 girls for 7000yen next time. they rotate every 10 minutes i think. but man, can't really beat that right? i mean, 5 different girls. about 1200 a chick. thats a steal right there.so there you have it. 3 pink salons all with pretty unique services. id probably stick with smiles in otsuka but jan jan didn't disappoint either.[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/quote]
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Re: Boo
I've also used Boo 5 times. I was 5/5 for FS: Akubi twice, Asahi (gone) once, Yayoi once, Erina (gone?) once. Only Yayoi charged extra for the FS (5k) and if I recall Erina said afterwards that 10k or so extra was normal (although I didn't pay it because she had not mentioned it beforehand).Once I heard that Akubi had started charging for FS I dropped her like a hot potato. And since Boo really doesn't get new girls in, I've stopped using them altogether.It's too bad, as I think they had a good franchise and brand name at one point. They never got serious about developing the business though.ES
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The10000yen.com
Thought I'd try out this alternative provider to the frequently commented AM. User friendly webpage at [url]http://www.The10000yen.com/roppongi/frn/topmenu.html[/url]. They even have a possibilty to book via internet. Used this and had a call back within minutes. The chosen girl was not available but the Papa san recommended another girl (conversation with him was in Japanese, though I think he also speaks English). Arranged for Sayori (first on the "nighttime girls" list) who arrived within 30-40 mins. Ater settling the payment and getting a bit comfortable with each other proceeded for the shower. Pretty sop, though her boobs seemed easily stimulated and turned on her sound machine. After the shower proceeded to the bed with ample finger action (boy did she get wet) and some tongue action (negative point that not shaven DATY) but excellent stereo surround sound. Cap and off we went.. Phone rings. Time over. Main negative was that phone went off after 30 mins, whereas had booked for 50 mins.. But overall good experience, JPY 24 k all in for 50 mins. No hassle booking and girl (true J girl) was actually rather cute (give her a 7/10). But she only speaks Japanese. This might be a downside for Bro's not conversant in Japanese.
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Honobono - Tapioka
Long time lurker, first time poster.Went with the Hono-bono option, picked Tapioka.As long as you speak a little Japanese, you should not have a problem with Hono-bono.No issues with the reservation, girl showed up in less than an hour. Pic on the site is blurred and was heavily made up. The girl that showed up did not have any makeup, but pretty sure it was the same girl!Great GFE, all cuddly and kissing. She took a shower, we went to bed. Started off with DFK, then slowly moved south starting from breasts. Pretty sensitive, was squirming all the time.Moved on to 69, then the condom was on and started first with missionary, then a few other positions.Talking until the time was up, really a friendly girl. This is my second time using Honobono, and never have I been disappointed. Fully recommend to everyone!Cost: 20, 000 (80 minutes)Travel: 2, 000Looks: 7Experience: 9+Would I repeat: Yes! Tapioka is nice, would like to try others next time.
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Actually, no, I am not Asian looking. White, blonde hair lad from the US Southwest. I guess the trick for me is to build up a shiat load of confidence when I walk there. You have to just go and give them the 'I'm ashamed to be here but whatever, I just want to get my load off' look, you know, very nonchalant about it all. Somehow it works. I don't act like I feel I will be turned away for a second. Just walk in like you own the place and you're a true regular.Went back to Smiles yesterday afternoon and get the 5 girl special. Only 1 of them was a bit large but the other 4 were young and cute. Can't complain one bit.[QUOTE=Lost For Words]I think so because I went there today (to Smiles O) and they definitely weren't foreigner-friendly, no matter how much I talked to them in Japanese.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Lost For Words]I've been to Grimpeur twice with nearly identical experiences as have been posted before, so I don't really have much to add. They gave me 2 choices and the girl I chose was new and looked exactly like the picture that was shown to me. The conversation and service were both good enough and FS was on the menu so I couldn't complain. If you're looking for something with a cute, young Japanese girl that is foreigner friendly, you surely can't go wrong here.[/QUOTE]Lost 4 Words., appreciated the post but it may be a bit misleading. There is no menu that lists FS at Grimpeur. It is up to the girl and you may have just got lucky 2 times, or charmed her. I was there last week, picked 名前メイ Mei (what she told me), 22, C cup, works from 1300. There was no way she was doing FS. So it is really up to the girl and I would say there is a 30% chance you will be disappointed if you go in expecting it. Also might add that you need to speak Japanese for this place or go in with someone who does.
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Tapioka
Kish1970The site shows Tapioka has a rather buxomy 98CM bustline. Is that accurate?
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re: The10000yen.com
[quote=farape]thought i'd try out this alternative provider to the frequently commented am. user friendly webpage at [url]http://www.the10000yen.com/roppongi/frn/topmenu.html[/url]. .... but overall good experience, jpy 24 k all in for 50 mins. [/quote]i've seen that site but what bothers me is the difference in prices:japanese site:40分10,000円、50分12,000円、60分14,000円以後10分2,000円指名料2,000円交通費、渋谷区、港区1,000円、渋谷区、港区以外2,000円~english site:40min.: 16,000yen50min.: 20,000yen60min.: 24.000yenextension fee: 4,000yen (every 10min.)naming fee: 4,000yentravel expenses: subjected by areaminato-ku: 2,000yenother areas: from 4,000yen----of course they'll take us when so few will. that's up to the individual of course, but pointing it out.