Minsk

My main purpose for going to Minsk this month was to explore the freebie scene and follow up on my internet contacts. I had a great time and a few promising prospects for my visit next month. As for P4P, which is not really my thing, I can confirm what other posters had noticed before: Minsk is less of a monger destination than Moscow, Peter or Kiev, and the reasons for this are obviously the tight governmental restrictions on the scene in Belarus. The scarcity of offers on the Internet reflects the absence of organized P4P services. Most site numbers were dead when I rang, and I had to rely exlusively on the few numbers I secured by email or through messages using the search parameters of [url]www.mamba. Ru[/url]. So, in the two weeks I spent in Minsk, I only managed to reach 8 girls, 6 of which I eventually met. In terms of numbers, this is a joke, and I wouldn’t bother writing my second post in this forum, if it weren’t for some suprising patterns.

•First, all of the girls I met were 18 or 19 year old students whose profiles indicated 21 or 22 year old pros. When I asked them about the discrepancy, they apologised for being younger, which was just the opposite of what I had experienced in Russia or Ukraine, where girls are usually 2-3 years older than indicated.

•Second, except Katya, who was clearly a pro, all the girls had little to no experience in the field, and the ensuing sex was of the best GFE kind I can remember. None of them asked for money upfront, and two of them even refused to take any. However, I insisted, because I don’t want them to call me afterwards. Let me just recall a few of the highlights in random order.

First there was Julia 19, who advertised under a fake photo using a false name and age. After a number of calls and text messages, she finally agreed to meet, on the condition that I pick her up from her parents’ home, which I did. She was a timid blond, with A cup breasts and a tight butt – in her own words, she was a „sportsmenka. " I still keep in touch, as I might want to see her again next month. One of her web photos attached.

Then, there was Zhenya 18, who was the flatmate of the pro, Katya 20, I had booked and shagged on a late Thursday night. Zhenya strolled into the kitchen with her dog and joined into our conversation. As I left the apartment, I asked her for her number, and the next day she agreed to meet, first in her apartment, and the next two days in mine. Never before had I felt the urge to repeat, let alone twice, but Zhenya was special, as you’ll see from the photos below. She’s about 170 tall, 50 kg. After 3 hours of sex, oral without and rough sex in all positions, I slipped 150 dollars in her pocket. She took it out, shook her head, and handed 50 back to me. That’s my girl.

And last, on the day I left Minsk, there was Karolina 18, looking somewhat younger in her hip hop gear. I’d been in touch with her through a dating site, and had lately noticed that she actually looks for a sponsor. I had texted her during my first stay in Minsk, but we didn’t manage to meet, and she appeared very non-committal this time, too. As I met Dasha 18 outside McDonalds on a Sunday afternoon, a girl who looked to sell her virginity to the highest bidder, her friend introduced herself as Karolina, and I couldn’t believe that I was just meeting two girlfriends I had chased independently. Dasha looked less attractive than in the photos, and I quickly focused attention on the sweet Karolina, as we strolled through the park holding hands. We agreed to meet again, because I had another date lined up in half an hour. On my final day then, we met at 11 am, walked straight to my apartment, had coffee over a Russian copy of QC and started making out. She had perky breasts, a translucent complexion as only Russians can have, and an incredibly tight body, standing 175 tall and weighing 50 kg. Minutes later, and I still couldn’t believe my luck, I was easing my dick in. Afterwards she told me that I was only her 3rd guy and that she’d lost her virginity two months ago. On her way out, my plane was leaving in two hours, she mumbled something about „sponsorstvo" and I slipped my „padarok" (80 dollars) in her pocket. As I hope to see her and the other two girls again next month, I won’t give out their numbers.

So, to sum up, the pains of reaching pros in Minsk was somewhat eased by the quality of their looks and GFE, which was clearly beyond my expectations.

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Hi White Nose,

I'll be in Minsk in 2 weeks. And I have already some contacts but I tried today to use [url]www.mamba[/url]. Ru not many, or they asked me to be a vip user so to pay for chatting. Worth it?

Anyway thank's for your report. And photos too. So minsk is still a nice place for pulling girls, and if you have other suggestions I'll be glad to follow!

All the best.

May be next time we'll be in the same hotel or we'll meet for a glass of red wine.

[QUOTE=White Noise]....After 3 hours of sex, oral without and rough sex in all positions, I slipped 150 dollars in her pocket. She took it out, shook her head, and handed 50 back to me. That’s my girl.....[/QUOTE]

Are you from Italy ?

Cause it is very typical for italians to ruin the attitude of girls paying 2x or 3x the price the local pays....

If you are able, I guess not, try to figure out why she gave you back 50 usd !!!

I will never understand why somebody has to overpay so much without any one little good reasons....

Next time try to pay her 300 usd... you will feel even better and maybe she will neither give you back 1 usd....

I don't know what hags you have in mind when suggesting 3 hours for 50 USD, or perhaps you're re-living the Golden Ages of the previous millennium. What counts for me is the quality of the young student, who was skinny, with flawless skin and perfect breasts. Since there wasn't any agreement on price beforehand, I have absolutely no qualms about giving my beauty 30 dollars above what the regular 26 y. O. Club pro would ask. And you know what? Generosity paid off, as she gave back what she thought was too much. It's a more advanced form of bargaining, think about it. And sorry to disappoint you, I'm not Italian, are you Czech by any chance?

[QUOTE=White Noise]...And you know what? Generosity paid off, as she gave back what she thought was too much. It's a more advanced form of bargaining, think about it. And sorry to disappoint you, I'm not Italian, are you Czech by any chance?[/QUOTE]

I disappoint you too, I am not Czech.

What you call generosity, it is indeed to overcharge and paid off, only cause you was lucky...

"Advanced form of bargain to overpay?!?"

Are you seriously ???

probably you are the most intelligent person in the world.... but why are you so intelligent and you pay for sex? ah, ok, probbly you can write lots of good reasons...:-)


[QUOTE=Lukasek]Are you from Italy ?

Cause it is very typical for italians to ruin the attitude of girls paying 2x or 3x the price the local pays....

If you are able, I guess not, try to figure out why she gave you back 50 usd !!!

I will never understand why somebody has to overpay so much without any one little good reasons....

Next time try to pay her 300 usd... you will feel even better and maybe she will neither give you back 1 usd....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=White Noise]

I don't know what hags you have in mind when suggesting 3 hours for 50 USD.

What counts for me is the quality of the young student, who was skinny, with flawless skin and perfect breasts.

Since there wasn't any agreement on price beforehand, I have absolutely no qualms about giving my beauty 30 dollars above what the regular 26 y. O. Club pro would ask.

And you know what? Generosity paid off, as she gave back what she thought was too much.

It's more advanced.

[/QUOTE]

Yes, hags are exactly what he has in mind, because what you had is something he doesn't relate to.

ESPECIALLY generosity! Or ANYTHING advanced.

Don't waste your time arguing, you will NEVER get through, and only provoke responses that are even LESS intelligible, as you already see.

When you go back to Minsk, try running down some cab drivers that are driving new black Mercedes, they should give you a hand in the p4p scene with reliable agencies. To fill in the the time between internet girls. By the way, how much was Dasha selling her cherry for?

As far as meeting girlfriends that you weren't aware of, when there's one playing the game, its not that surprising to find that sometimes they play it together on the down low.

[QUOTE=George 6969]Visited in Minsk the nightclub Overtime fot the first time. Its located on Pe....street in a sport komplex. That it is the street leaving independence sqare for Minsk Arena, where also Hotel Victoria is situated, but much closer to the city on the right side. It was one of the best places I have ever been to. 70% of the guests are girls and willing to party.The majority of them seem to be interested in contacts. It was a thrilling night which ended up lonely for me, because my russian is not existing and I m maybe a little bit to old for the place.

Try it you will enjoy it even when you are not scoring.[/QUOTE]

George, thanks for your very informative post. Club Overtime sounds great; which are the other top places for freebies?

Do you recommend hotels or private apartments? Will I have a problem bringing a girl back to my room?

Is Minsk dead in Summer due to everyone going on holiday? Is it best to wait until autumn when school starts up again? :)

[QUOTE=Ash1001]George, thanks for your very informative post. Club Overtime sounds great; which are the other top places for freebies?

Do you recommend hotels or private apartments? Will I have a problem bringing a girl back to my room?

Is Minsk dead in Summer due to everyone going on holiday? Is it best to wait until autumn when school starts up again? :)[/QUOTE]Hi,

Iwas in minsk two years ago. I would recommend west world club. There are hundreds of girls there. I hooked up with two beautiful girl students there. There are also many hookers there as well.

The place is really huge and they have very nice shows. Inthe same complex they have a strip club where you can actually touch the girls. And very nice girls as well.

As for taking girls I think you can take girls before 11pm you have to pay security at the hotel.

Minsk is very spread out. And I suggest you find a reliable taxi driver with some basic english.

Another upmarket club is Maddisons.

I would avoid hookers in hotel bars they were quoting something like 100 euros for the hour.

Girls very friendly just walk up to them and start a conversation.

Ash info for you,

Private apartments. Most hotels in Minsk are NOT girl friendly, depending in which one you stay.

Bringing girl in hotel room can be a problem or not. In some hotel they will not allow you to bring non guest to the hotel, in other they will but they will charge you this with explanation "non hotel guest in the room". Hotels which are girlfriendly are Viktoria and Evropa, others needs to be check.

Minsk is pretty dead in the summer. People are on holidays, students not from Minsk went home for the summer, etc.

Also the weather is nice so most people (including girls) are outside drinking in the parks and river banks and not in the night clubs.

If the girls are main reason much better to come in the autumn or winter when students are at their universities and no way to stay outside but most be inside in the night club.

West World Club is not that interesting now, on most days it's poorly visited.

Many hookers there can also be a police women posing as hookers to make some arrest. They receive bonus if they arrest some foreigner.

The hit club in Minsk now is Black Door but it's expensive.

Minsk is very spread out but if you don't need to visit those soviet blocks everything you need is located in the main street - Prospekt Nezavisimosti.

Night clubs, restaurants, bars, hotels, banks. For a foreigner there's no need to go away from there.

"Girls very friendly just walk up to them and start a conversation" this is generalisation. Knowledge of russian is more important than in Russia or Ukraine. Without it chances are much less. Mongering in Belarus basically needs much more work than in Ukraine and is much harder. In Minsk chances are better with weekend semi pros from Moscow and Poland. For polish ones better hurry their visas will expire December this year and it will be bye bye for them.

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I was several times in Minsk the last few years. Madison is by far the club with the best looking girls. West World Club (sheiba) is quite big but half empty even on weekends. Belaya Vezha can also be good place if they have temporarely special events.

The problem with those clubs is that there are not many studens (if any) because its too expensive for them. Entrance fee is arround $20. So, you will see a lot of nice girls, but they are either hoes or are accompanied by their "rich" boyfriends.

Therefore I think bars are the better option to get to know student girls. 05 (nullpiat) was a good place until it became a foreigners favourite place. Also important: If you want to boost your chances in Minsk, you need to speak some basic Russian.

Good luck!

Thanks very much guys, much appreciated. Might check out Minsk around the end of September. Will any of you be there then?

Hello!

I have super bad experiences from anything even resembling monger activities in east Europe.

Need to go to Minsk either next week or the following, though. Work is calling but only for 2-3 days tops, so no time to work on students for to long.

ANY heads up is highly appreciated since the prospect of ending up in jail due to trying to pick up an under cover cop sounds super scary and indeed inconvenient with regards to my travel plans.

I am not cheap but do not want to pay a fortune either, i.e. I think a 22 year north European escort normally charge a bit over my comfort level. But as always it depends on age, looks and attitude. The best is always “normal” girls, and these I can locate but a fall back plan in form of a number or some place to visit makes all the turn off's I likely will experience so much easier to swallow. The “oh well, at least I can go to Dolly's Massage Institute and get a hand job”-exit turns visiting losers into less losers and dull promenades to interesting excursions with the prospect of a nice little round off to contemplate while watching old buildings.

Massage with happy ending, some cute girls touring me, call in, visit to a secure apartment or info about anything else putting me closer to having an encounter with my first east European girl ever is highly appreciated.

I have all ranging from black Mercedes cabbies to The West World Club on my list, but lack some verified numbers or studios that I am sure someone out there sits on.
Thank you for reading. Any help will be much appreciated and treated however requested by the one kind enough to share!

Cheers from Barba!

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Barba few guidelines for you.

You said to have super bad experiences with mongering in East Europe.

Minsk is definitelly NOT a place to start your activities so don't be dissapointed if you again have bad experiances. Simply to say you'll need to "graduate" at some other place before Minks can be a option.

Kiev is much better place to start.

Minsk can give some results with advanced work on the net few weeks before arriving. But obviously you don't have that time. Also you will stay just for 2-3 days. Don't want that registration process eh?

This time is definitelly not enough for some freebie. So what are your options? Don't know if you will stay in hotel or apartment but maybe you can check some of the hotel pros. Most probably you can find them in hotels Europa and Viktoria. But don't expect some good quality or low price. Maybe girls from Poland and Moldova or some Moscow girls during weekend. Probably can find some pros in West World Club, again don't expect much regarding quality and price. Usually the rule is that girl is that will be by herself or maybe 2-3 girls in the group. But this is not exact rule since. Sure there will be some undercover cops there and you want to avoid them. How to recognize them. They are never alone, usually in group like 2-3 and they usually have the same model of heeled shoes (looks like government issue or something). They can also take the initiative and approach you as soon as they figure you're foreigner. The best thing to know is they will usually to try to get you talking about local politics, presenting them as opposition supporters, etc. This cause for alarm and better stay away. Keep in mind offending the president can be punished withb jail up to 3 years in Belarus.

So good luck, I'd like to say "happy hunting" but it will be hard.

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Kurenda, thank You a lot!

I will keep my expectation to architecture, food and maybe some good beers. Any female encounters will be a bonus.

Kiev is actually on the map for coming months so maybe I get more lucky there.
Regards Barba