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[QUOTE=CodeX; 1519548]So my Japanese is not so great, but I want to try and get through the gate at a few more places.

I have used phrases like Tekoki and been refused. Is there a better way to phrase it?

Does any one have any translations guides to help one pass?

Things like,

"What kind of service do you provide?"

"Yes I understand the rules"

"I prefer slender and young girls"

I know the basics but get lost when a Tencho starts speaking casually and he catches that I am faking understanding.

Any help world be appreciated.[/QUOTE]"What kind of service do you provide?"

Sa-bisu no naiyou wa?

"Yes I understand the rules"

Hai, ru-ru wa wakatte masu.

"I prefer slender and not old"

Wakakute hosoi ko ga iidesu.

Make sure you understand the rules. If you break them, they might kick you out forever.

[QUOTE=Herpes; 1518929]Hi guys,

Funny enough, I read an issue of the weekly spa! 2 weeks ago.

Like a lot of those weeklies, you can find very serious articles about politics, economics, sports, culture,

As well as a lot of nudie pics, and even sexguides!

Ageha was cited as one of the best example of fuzoku business expanding thanks to its strategy catering to foreigners.

The boss of the shop says foreigners are better customers because they are more repeat customers than Japanese, and ready to pay a bit more!

Has about 40 foreign customers per month!

Says the girls all speak a minimum of English, and get 60% of the money. I let you do the math to see how much they make everymonth.

I've used once (Asano) , and probably will repeat (with her or any other!).[/QUOTE]I would be more inclined to say Ageha accepts the business of foreigners rather than caters to them because a good portion of their best looking girls won't go with gaijin. From experience the girls speak varying degrees of English that compares favorably to that of the general Japanese female population. In other words, Japanese skills will help you build a quicker positive rapport with your provider.

This happened one month ago. One 40 or 45 years old and ugly girl. She only blew the glans and rubbed the rest with her hand. I felt painful and asked her to stop her hand. She refused and said she did nothing wrong. I told her this was not a blow-job.

She talked to the mamasan. After a few minutes, mamasan came and yelled to me in front of other customers. That was very embarrassed. She claimed that the girl did was 100% blow-job and the girl couldn't do anything more than that. She demanded me to get out of that place right away. I knew that these places are controlled by mafia. She has a ugly and evil face. I gave up and left. I didn't want to risk my life.

This is definite a handjob place.

Many people think Japanese are polite. No! No! When they want your money, they are very polite. But when they don't need your money, they are very cold and can't see you.

I know there are many Japanese-girl lover here. I told the true. It is very difficult to understand Japanese because their minds are not easily to read.

[QUOTE=Fludon291; 1520027]This happened one month ago. One 40 or 45 years old and ugly girl. She only blew the glans and rubbed the rest with her hand. I felt painful and asked her to stop her hand. She refused and said she did nothing wrong. I told her this was not a blow-job.

She talked to the mamasan. After a few minutes, mamasan came and yelled to me in front of other customers. That was very embarrassed. She claimed that the girl did was 100% blow-job and the girl couldn't do anything more than that. She demanded me to get out of that place right away. I knew that these places are controlled by mafia. She has a ugly and evil face. I gave up and left. I didn't want to risk my life.

This is definite a handjob place.

Many people think Japanese are polite. No! No! When they want your money, they are very polite. But when they don't need your money, they are very cold and can't see you.

I know there are many Japanese-girl lover here. I told the true. It is very difficult to understand Japanese because their minds are not easily to read.[/QUOTE]I agree.

Two months ago in Hinomaru, even though my experience not as bad as Fludon, the women kept using the handjob. I repeatedly pulled off her hands. Fortunately she not got mad but you can felt the disagreement.

Never went to Hinomaru again.

Now I prefer to go to escort service especially Shinjuku escort.

Nice girl, good look, even though I cannot afford it frequently.

16000 yen including hotel cost.

Once a month for me is enough.

[QUOTE=Fludon291; 1520027]This happened one month ago. One 40 or 45 years old and ugly girl. She only blew the glans and rubbed the rest with her hand. I felt painful and asked her to stop her hand. She refused and said she did nothing wrong. I told her this was not a blow-job.

She talked to the mamasan. After a few minutes, mamasan came and yelled to me in front of other customers. That was very embarrassed. She claimed that the girl did was 100% blow-job and the girl couldn't do anything more than that. She demanded me to get out of that place right away. I knew that these places are controlled by mafia. She has a ugly and evil face. I gave up and left. I didn't want to risk my life.

This is definite a handjob place.

Many people think Japanese are polite. No! No! When they want your money, they are very polite. But when they don't need your money, they are very cold and can't see you.

I know there are many Japanese-girl lover here. I told the true. It is very difficult to understand Japanese because their minds are not easily to read.[/QUOTE]Sorry about the bad experience, but that does not mean that it is the rule.

Most people who went to jan jan had a average-to-good experience, you have been unlucky.

Yes, the Japanese mind is not easy to read, as much as the Japanese find the westerner's mind equally hard to read. Those of us who made the effort to understand the way Japanese people operate, and even more those who made the effort to learn a bit of the language, are bound to rip a lot of benefits in all walks of life, mongering or else.

I had the best ever BJ experience of my life at jan jan a year ago. Attractive woman, who was so much into it, that we almost finished in CG. The fear of the tencho just stooped her at the last minute. That was also exceptional, this is not the norm, no more than your experience is the norm.

In our hobby, the rule is: win some, lose some.

Swiitch your state of mind into "positive" and enjoy what Japan has to offer. Or leave.

Japan is the tips-free society. Does anyone here tip the escort girl if they gave a good service? I don't see anyone mentioning this in this JP forum.

[QUOTE=Frtworld;1520696]Japan is the tips-free society. Does anyone here tip the escort girl if they gave a good service? I don't see anyone mentioning this in this JP forum.[/QUOTE]Type "tipping" in the Search Thread on the upper right of this forum. Lots of members have weighed in on your subject of interest.

[QUOTE=FrtWorld;1520696]Japan is the tips-free society. Does anyone here tip the escort girl if they gave a good service? I don't see anyone mentioning this in this JP forum.[/QUOTE]Best way to show appreciation is either repeat business, and / or box of chocolates / bunch of flowers.

[QUOTE=FrtWorld;1520696]Japan is the tips-free society. Does anyone here tip the escort girl if they gave a good service? I don't see anyone mentioning this in this JP forum.[/QUOTE]I never tip, to me it is already expensive. I would be happy to make the money they get for their service (per hour). Plus yes Japan is a no tipping country. Please don`t change that.

It has been mentioned here before, rather than tipping it may be appropriate to offer the girl a small gift; if you are a gaigin something from your own country is always a pleaser.

[QUOTE=Kabze; 1520225]Now I prefer to go to escort service especially Shinjuku escort.

Nice girl, good look, even though I cannot afford it frequently.

16000 yen including hotel cost.

Once a month for me is enough.[/QUOTE]Excuse me, are you talking about "Shinjuku Escort Erotic Massage Club"? Content of their web-site looks attractive.

Ok so a quick post here with some findings on my first trip to Japan. Used the Erolin guide (google it) first to find a massage, chose the rendezvous, very helpful receptionist and girl was an 8/10. Hotel and service 16k yen all in, but only topless massage and HJ.

2nd experience was in Shibuya. Was wondering the streets enjoying the sites and found a couple of massage signs next to the outback steak house. Thought no harm in going in and asking for prices (I don't speak Japanese). Door had buzzer which I thought was a good sign instead of shop front, girl answered and showed shoes at door (basically busy at the moment). Headed for lift to leave when girl from another massage door saw me and invited me in. Ended with 45 minute massage and HJ for 5k yen, actually really good massage, full body and head massage at very end after HJ. For that price I couldn't complain.

Going to try other areas tomorrow. Will report back if I find anything of interest.

[2nd experience was in Shibuya. Was wondering the streets enjoying the sites and found a couple of massage signs next to the outback steak house. Thought no harm in going in and asking for prices (I don't speak Japanese). Door had buzzer which I thought was a good sign instead of shop front, girl answered and showed shoes at door (basically busy at the moment). Headed for lift to leave when girl from another massage door saw me and invited me in. Ended with 45 minute massage and HJ for 5k yen, actually really good massage, full body and head massage at very end after HJ. For that price I couldn't complain.[/QUOTE]

Sorin, Can you remember any details about the name / location of the massage place in Shibuya?

[QUOTE=Sorin;1521504]Going to try other areas tomorrow. Will report back if I find anything of interest.[/QUOTE]Please try to find some places with full service. I am going to Tokyo in April and looking for some good time. HJ is boring for me.

[QUOTE=Cougar Cookie;1521901[/QUOTE]Sorin, Can you remember any details about the name / location of the massage place in Shibuya?[/QUOTE][url]Http://goo.gl/maps/XuZce[/url]

Google maps address above. The name started with an S, it was advertised with a reddish looking board. You can't miss it if you goto the google maps location. When you come out the lift on the floor advertised on the boards. To your right you will find the door I used, in front of you is a nails shop, to the left round the corner is the other door I tried but was busy. Good luck. Oh p. S. When I first went in she showed me the menu and the price was like 4300 yen, after I did a few hand signals, attempts at understanding what was included she said ok 5000 yen and I got what I described below.