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[QUOTE=Hugin; 1118223]I went to King's Club a few weeks ago. Paid 27, 000 for 80 minutes. This was my first time to a soap land, so I don't have any basis for comparison, but I was very satisfied.

I had Erena, and really liked her attitude. She seemed like she really enjoyed herself. The experience was pretty much what I had expected, including a thorough washing and the mattress. Note that according to what I read elsewhere on the forum, you only get mat play if you go for 80 min or more.

All in all I was very pleased with King's Club. [/QUOTE]Hi,

Can I ask a few more questions:

Do you speak japanese?

Did you book on line? And in such case, how did you choose your girl.

Or if not, did you go just like this, and in such case, how did you choose your girl?

Did they show you pictures?

Erena seems a good choice, based on her details on th website.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1117977]Now what about Yoshiwara.

Quite easy to find, I just repeat here: take the Hibuya kine to Minowa, take exit 3, turn left immedaitely into Meiji-Dori, at the big fork, about 300-400 why down, take the right branch, not Meiji-Dori, walk another 300 yards, and at the traffic light take right. Thhis is the border of the district which is on your left. Go in left after 2 or 3 streets, and crisscroos it right and left, up adn down.

I just walkedd past many places, and to my surprise, I was waived in almost 50 % of the time. Once or twice they asked me about my nihongo level, and when I said, Sukoshi, (a little) that was good enough. Did not see many customers, but a few limos going up and down.

I was offered akll sort of prices. One said 30000 for 80 min, and when I probed the extras, he said 80000 in total. As repeatedly said in this thread before, always check.

Most others offered 80 minutes between 25000 and 35000 all included. One was so desperate that he lowered his initial price from 35000 to 25000. That seemed tempting, but I stuck to my good resolution, no sex today.

I still have a week to go, and I will run out of cash early if I monger twice a day.

Anyway, now, since I have populated this forum, a bit deserted since a few days, please HELP me with my next adventure, which will be a soapland in Yoshiwara.

Where should I go? I have a budget of around 30000, could go over if I was sure of the reason why, , and want the full experience, that is with the mattress.

I read on this forum that the "dream " group was OK, Primma Donna and others. Also the King's club, which advertises on its website that it is "OK for the foreigners" and also have a promotion for something like 28000 for 80 min or so.

Since there is no onfo since a few months, I wondered if anyone has been there more recently. Any advice on which place, and even which girl would be very helpful.

And if anyopne wants to join forces, for this or other things, just pm me.

Cheers.

Gambatte[/QUOTE]Yoshiwara is indeed in a rather desperate state. Several days ago, happened to see a girl on a website working in one of the soaplands, [url]http://www.truthg.com/pc/companion/0001028_profile_popup.html[/url], I decided to book her. I rang up and had no problem whatsoever.

Just before I hanged up the phone, I became curious, so I asked if gaijin were allowed and I was told emphatically no, I told him I am a giajin, he said if that were the case, I would not be able to use their service. So I rang up a few other soaplands in Chiba just to check up the market there, and I got the same response-no gaijin whatsoever. As you can see I speak quite passable Japanese and there was little or no suspicion about me until I raised the alarm by myself. But once they know you are gaijin, then no allowance or concession is granted at all.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1118932]Hi, Can I ask a few more questions:Do you speak japanese? Did you book on line? And in such case, how did you choose your girl.Or if not, did you go just like this, and in such case, how did you choose your girl? Did they show you pictures? Erena seems a good choice, based on her details on th website.[/QUOTE]I speak some japanese, but I was greeted in English when I came in. According to Erena it is not uncommon for customers to have little or no knowledge of japanese.I did not book in advance, simply walked in. I was shown pictures of the available girls, and was told how long I would have to wait for each of them.

Has anyone here had success finding a gaijin-friendly oppai or make-out bar?

[QUOTE=Bluerose; 1118942]Yoshiwara is indeed in a rather desperate state. Several days ago, happened to see a girl on a website working in one of the soaplands,

[url]http://www.truthg.com/pc/companion/0001028_profile_popup.html[/url]

, I decided to book her. I rang up and had no problem whatsoever.

Just before I hanged up the phone, I became curious, so I asked if gaijin were allowed and I was told emphatically no, I told him I am a giajin, he said if that were the case, I would not be able to use their service. So I rang up a few other soaplands in Chiba just to check up the market there, and I got the same response-no gaijin whatsoever. As you can see I speak quite passable Japanese and there was little or no suspicion about me until I raised the alarm by myself. But once they know you are gaijin, then no allowance or concession is granted at all. [/QUOTE]More than half of the touts waived me in when I did my walk last Sunday.

See my next post with regards to my latest experience

[QUOTE=Hugin; 1119076]I speak some japanese, but I was greeted in English when I came in. According to Erena it is not uncommon for customers to have little or no knowledge of japanese.

I did not book in advance, simply walked in. I was shown pictures of the available girls, and was told how long I would have to wait for each of them. [/QUOTE]Thanks.

I actually went before getting your answer.

I had already identified the King's club as one gaijin friendly place, since they make it clear in their website They are quite open about the gaijin tax. Saying that this is the way they do this in Japan. One may not like it, but it is transparent.

I made a booking by internet following their instructions. Havung checked the girls on the website, I liked Erena, so since you found her attitude good as well, I asked for her.

As required, I called them a few hours before going, to confirm. The guy on the phone undertands english. He offered to pick me up at the Usugaini JR station. I called him again when I arrived, and 5 min later a car came to pick me up. I chatted a bit in japanese with the driver. Business seems very bad, which may be why they lower their prices and decided to go openly for gaijin. He also said that if the customer speaks a little Japanese, it is better, but I don't think they require it.

Arrived, paid my 80 min, waited 5 min, and was then introduced to Erena. Face a bit ordinary, but excellent body, nice firm reasonably big breasts. Very chatty, which was an aded benefit to me, since I need to practice my beginner's Japanese.

Session was fine, but you need to ask for the mattress play, other wise she will not propose. Anyway, catbath, BBBJ, I did not come, then mattress play, again BBBJ, did not come yet, then bed play, BBBJ, DATY. 4 positions, and. I did not come. That's what Viagra does to me: greatly helps in keeping long and good erection, but very difficult to come. Funny, I spent the first half of my half trying (unsuccessfully) to control my premature ejaculation, and the second halh trying to cum. Anyway, towards the end I asked her for another final BBBJ, and managed to CIM happily. Then driven back to the station by my new friend, the driver.

Conclusion: It is possible for a non japanese speaking gaijin to enjoy real soapland experience, honban included, with a yound and pretty Japanese girl for a decent price (27000 Yen). You can come more than once if you can. In m Take no less than 80 min, otherwise, no mattress play and it may be a bit rush. 80 min for me was fine, since I was not going to cum twice. However, if you think you can, maybe take 2 hours.

Whether this is good value for money is subjective. Some may prefer the convenience of a home delivery in their hotel room of a nice AM girl, who speaks fluent english, for 35000 and 2 hours. But this would not be much different from getting any escort in any 5 star hotel in any place, except that she is Japanee. The soapland experience is exclusively and typically Japanese, and that why it was on my "must do list"before I becomes totally Alzeimerised. Done now, like the red rope in China, and a few other funny things elsewher in the word, like FKK, London's parties, Mexican brothels.

Leaving Tokyo now, much enjoyed it, improved my Japanese, fucked this nice little chick in Yoshiwara, saw about 20 wide open pussies, got 3 BBBJCIM in Hinomaru and Jan Jan.

Who said Tokyo was not a good mongering place?

Although it is great to see you enjoy yourself in tokyo. But 27000 and 35000, that is 270 dollars and 350 dollars. That is alot. Most countries it only cost 50 dollars for sex. Are there any places for 50 dollars for sex in tokyo area? I

[QUOTE=Regnar;1119283]Has anyone here had success finding a gaijin-friendly oppai or make-out bar?[/QUOTE]I went to one in Shinjuku the other day called Onyanko Musume ([url]http://www.onyanko-tokyo.net/index.htm[/url]). There seems to be girls working there that are not listed on the website.Went to one of the information centers and asked for an oppai bar. A guy from the bar came and showed me the way. Regular price is 10k for 40min, but for some reason (probably thanks to the guy at the information center, maybe because I said I'd never been to an oppai bar before) I only had to pay 6k.It's a dark place with music playing in the background. Seems you get about 10min with a girl, and then they switch her. It is possible to pay 2k to choose a girl, but I don't know how this works. I've read about places where choosing a girl gives you her every other time.Rules are simple: no touching below the waist. Though apparently the girls do not have this restriction.All in all this is a good place to go if all you want is to make out with attractive girls.I do speak some japanese, and so don't know if they're ok with non-speakers.

Hey any of you able to read which station (s) are recommended for this site. Apparently it is gaijin friendly.

I'd wack it into google translate but the information is actually an image not text.

[url]http://www.pretty-girl.net/system.html[/url]

Would be much appreciated.

Had a good experience in Tokyo yesterday. My first time here. I went to Kabuchiko in Shinjuku (sp?) Went there asking for oppai bar and ended up meeting a tout who spoke pretty good English.He took me to a hostess club, it might have been Japanese only because he had to do some explaining at the door.Then we went right in. Sorry I don't know the name of the place its just a dark hole in the wall. I sat down and a hot Japanese girl about 24 came right over. I'm really picky but Luckily out of 10 girls she was probably the hottest one there. She's an 8 or 9 and could easily pass for JAV.The deal was FS for 30k unfortunately I didn't even have that much cash so she ended up going with me to a Love Hotel and did a quicky CBJ for 12k and that included the hotel fee! I got her number and she will come to my hotel tonight for the FS action.She seems to like me so maybe I got a freebie because she felt sorry for me not having any money. I'm 37 African American I dress pretty stylishly not business, I'm just a tourist. I only say this because I think the deal you get may depend on how much the particular girl likes you. So YMMV.My advice is to go to Kabuchiko and talk to the touts if you're picky then tell them that. He knew that I was serious because the day before he brought me to a place and I walked and told him the quality of the girls wasnt very good.One more note, I heard that Kirara Cafe is a scam. The trick is that the girl pretends that she likes you and will go out with you and have you buy her a bunch of stuff. You then have about a 30% chance of getting some action. I haven't tried it yet but I trust my tout since he set me up pretty good.

[QUOTE=Yuffei; 1120066]Hey any of you able to read which station (s) are recommended for this site. Apparently it is gaijin friendly.I'd wack it into google translate but the information is actually an image not text.[url]http://www.pretty-girl.net/system.html[/url]Would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Here ya go. Enjoy! JR Yamanote Line: Uguisudani, Nippori, or Ueno St. (For Ueno, use Iriya Exit) JR Joban Line: Minami-Senju St.Subway Hibiya Line: Minowa or Iriya St.Subway Ginza Line: Tawaramachi St.Subway Asakusa Line (Tobu Line) : Asakusa St.

[QUOTE=Yuffei; 1120066]Hey any of you able to read which station (s) are recommended for this site. Apparently it is gaijin friendly.

I'd wack it into google translate but the information is actually an image not text.

[url]http://www.pretty-girl.net/system.html[/url]

Would be much appreciated. [/QUOTE]Ueno Station or Nippori Station (Yamanote line)

Asakusa or Tawaramachi (Tokyo metro Ginza line)

Iriya Subway stn (sorry can't read line name)

Minowa Subway stn.

Minami Senju stn.

If you click on the station names they show you where to wait for pick up. Seems like a decent system.

For mine, Rion or Rika look like a good deal. Good luck!

Looking at my last post and realizing that 10k yen is actually $100! LOL I thought it was $10. Ok so maybe it wasn:t such a good deal. Still worth it because the girl was very hot.

[QUOTE=Vincelee76; 1119668]Although it is great to see you enjoy yourself in tokyo. But 27000 and 35000, that is 270 dollars and 350 dollars. That is alot. Most countries it only cost 50 dollars for sex. Are there any places for 50 dollars for sex in tokyo area?

I[/QUOTE]Well. Yes in the remote rural parts of Cambodia, you can have sex for 10 US dollars.

Please send us a list of the "most countries" where you can have 2 hours sex, include BBBJCIM, multiple position, multiple posp, with a clean, educated, young and pretty girl for 50 US.

I think you should compare what is comparable. Even inTijuana today, you pay more than 50 Us, and what you get has noting comparable to a soapland experience.

And, BTW, a BBBJCIM in Tokyo cost 3000 yens, less than 40 US dollars.

I am currently in LA; can you tell me what I can get there for this price?

[QUOTE=Dreams;1119665]Conclusion: It is possible for a non japanese speaking gaijin to enjoy real soapland experience, honban included, with a yound and pretty Japanese girl for a decent price (27000 Yen).[/QUOTE]In advance, I apologize for the lengthy post.I really appreciate all the info I've seen on this thread.I'm going to Tokyo by myself in September on business.I'm staying in the Shibuya section of Tokyo. I have a business meeting in Minato-ku for one day. And then I'm free to do whatever for five days. I have some ability to speak Japanese (although I'm sure it'll be a disaster in practice). Also, I live in NYC and traveled to other major cities in the world before by myself. So, with the exception of the complicated rail system in Tokyo I shouldn't (again, in theory) be overwhelmed to the point of being too timid to explore. I like to explore cities (away from the tourist traps) and take photos so, I've already complied a list of things I want to see or go to. Which takes care of the "sightseeing / picture taking / leisure vacation" part of the trip.But, being a single male naturally, I also want to have fun. At least one night I'm in town.But, I don't want to be stupid. If a scene isn't cool or I'm not wanted. I'm not going to push something just to get laid in Tokyo. I live in NYC. Korean, Japanese or Chinese girls are just a call away. They're delivered to your home in 20 minutes and best of all, you're always the home team. So, although danger can be fun, there's no need to be reckless and foolish on this trip.But, I have a couple questions I hope people here can assist me with.1. I see most of comments pertain with visiting a club or website service or soapland establishment, etc.I'm staying at a business hotel. I don't drink and I'm not going to be doing any drugs overseas so, I'd be less likely to hit the clubs lookin' for action (although I will want to go to an interesting club or establishment to experience it).I was wondering how I could determine the policy of the hotel and if I could call-in someone (health delivery)? I've read some business hotels don't allow the women to visit. Is a way to determine this and get around any problems would be to seek out the hotel Concierge privately? 2. If I do something like that, is it best to book a date online rather than attempt to initiate a phone call and possibly have something lost in translation? 3. If I can't have someone come to my hotel. Is a Love Hotel or Club a better solution? I have been given a contact to meet some people at the Tantra Tokyo Club but, that really looks like high end Goldfingers-type Gentlemen's club like you'd find here in NYC. Not really a new experience so, not really what I'm going for.And, in a first for me, money isn't really an issue on this trip. I have a great budget.So, that's it.I view you guys as "The Pros from Dover" (to quote Altman's film "M. A. S. H.").So, I hope to get some suggestions and answers to my questions.Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hugin; 1119715]I went to one in Shinjuku the other day called Onyanko Musume (

[url]http://www.onyanko-tokyo.net/index.htm[/url]

:

Rules are simple: no touching below the waist. Though apparently the girls do not have this restriction.

:[/QUOTE]I had a look at the web site and the first girl's profile I looked at was Maron. She says her charm point is her clitoris, and her message is "stimulate my charm point"!

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I must try an oppai bar one day. From all this recent talk of soaplands I'm keen to try one soon. I've resisted in the past because of the cost but some of the places mentioned here recently are competitive with AM and health.

[QUOTE=DirtyDozen;1120193]Looking at my last post and realizing that 10k yen is actually $100! LOL I thought it was $10. Ok so maybe it wasn:t such a good deal. Still worth it because the girl was very hot.[/QUOTE]Just a little info for people who don't live here. The Dollar is in the toliet in Japan 10, 000 Yen is about $120. 00 US Budget wisely. Even with AM's 28, 000 yen special that still is about $350. 00 US

Went to another Korean 'massage' place in Shin-Okachimachi called "Saran". The website is here:[url]http://www.saranes.com/[/url]It's easy to find. Get out at exit A4 from Shin-Okachimachi and take a right and then an immediate right on the street there. It's the first building entrance on your left. Ring room 402 and you'll be let up. It's literally about 15 seconds from the exit, so if you go further than that you went too far. The full address is listed on their site. It seems like they opened in December of last year and they still have a grand opening special price. I chose the A course, which is 45 min for 7500. I asked what the difference be / w the courses was and he said that with the A course, you just get the special service and with the B course you get the special service plus a massage. I guess the B course is longer too, but I can't see picking the B course.Anyway, after you pay he gives you a card and you walk about 200m to another building and meet the girl. I had Nana, which I must say looks almost exactly like the pictures on the site. We showered together and she cleaned me pretty well all over. I wasn't really sure what to expect for 7500, but as soon as we got back to the room and she had me lay facing up and went right to work. Started kissing me all over and eventually gave me a BBBJ. After awhile of that she slipped on a condom and we went at it for awhile before I blew my load. All in all, she has a nice rack and was definitely kinky and I ended up having a lot of fun with her. For 7500 for FS, you can't go wrong. My only complaint would be that she didn't speak any Japanese really, so it was a bit hard to communicate with her, but she definitely tried and was eager to please. Will definitely repeat.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words; 1120380]Went to another Korean 'massage' place in Shin-Okachimachi called "Saran". The website is here:

[url]http://www.saranes.com/[/url]

It's easy to find. Get out at exit A4 from Shin-Okachimachi and take a right and then an immediate right on the street there. It's the first building entrance on your left. Ring room 402 and you'll be let up. It's literally about 15 seconds from the exit, so if you go further than that you went too far. The full address is listed on their site. It seems like they opened in December of last year and they still have a grand opening special price. I chose the A course, which is 45 min for 7500. I asked what the difference be / w the courses was and he said that with the A course, you just get the special service and with the B course you get the special service plus a massage. I guess the B course is longer too, but I can't see picking the B course.

Anyway, after you pay he gives you a card and you walk about 200m to another building and meet the girl. I had Nana, which I must say looks almost exactly like the pictures on the site. We showered together and she cleaned me pretty well all over. I wasn't really sure what to expect for 7500, but as soon as we got back to the room and she had me lay facing up and went right to work. Started kissing me all over and eventually gave me a BBBJ. After awhile of that she slipped on a condom and we went at it for awhile before I blew my load. All in all, she has a nice rack and was definitely kinky and I ended up having a lot of fun with her. For 7500 for FS, you can't go wrong. My only complaint would be that she didn't speak any Japanese really, so it was a bit hard to communicate with her, but she definitely tried and was eager to please. Will definitely repeat. [/QUOTE]Another example showing that one can have fun in Tokyo for less than 100 US.

[QUOTE=Yuffei; 1120066]Hey any of you able to read which station (s) are recommended for this site. Apparently it is gaijin friendly.I'd wack it into google translate but the information is actually an image not text.[url]http://www.pretty-girl.net/system.html[/url]Would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hi Yuffei, Please. Post a report on pretty-girl with your experiences. I am a supporter of S-hana who charges 19k for 90mins + hotel, but always keen to hear of alternatives in Tokyo.Cheers

[QUOTE=Vincelee76; 1119668]Although it is great to see you enjoy yourself in tokyo. But 27000 and 35000, that is 270 dollars and 350 dollars. That is alot. Most countries it only cost 50 dollars for sex. Are there any places for 50 dollars for sex in tokyo area? I[/QUOTE]You got to love these guys who complain about prices in Tokyo. Tokyo is perhaps the only major city in the developed world where you can get "sex", a BJ, in a relatively clean, non-illegal place for $50.Remember, if you are in a country were the average income is USD$30, 000 or over sex will not be $50. Ever been to NYC, Sydney, Amsterdam? Good luck getting a non-drugged out girl for less than $200-300 / hr.

I did a search on the forum, but couldn't find any conclusive info, but does anyone know if soaplands and escort services tend to close down for Golden Week? If not, are they less busier than usual? (I'm assuming people are leaving town for that week). Thanks for the help!

[QUOTE=Asian Travels; 1120887]You got to love these guys who complain about prices in Tokyo. Tokyo is perhaps the only major city in the developed world where you can get "sex", a BJ, in a relatively clean, non-illegal place for $50.

Remember, if you are in a country were the average income is USD$30, 000 or over sex will not be $50. Ever been to NYC, Sydney, Amsterdam? Good luck getting a non-drugged out girl for less than $200-300 / hr. [/QUOTE]Well said, my friend.

I am now back in London, dreaming that there are BBBJCIM bars where I can get relief on my way back form work for 30 GBP. By a fully naked girl, wide opened, fingered, etc. Just a dream.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1121487]Well said, my friend.

I am now back in London, dreaming that there are BBBJCIM bars where I can get relief on my way back form work for 30 GBP. By a fully naked girl, wide opened, fingered, etc. Just a dream. [/QUOTE]Japan also offers one of the cheapest, if not the cheapest, anal sex (starting around 22000 yen) among OCED countries.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words;1120380]Went to another Korean 'massage' place in Shin-Okachimachi called "Saran".[/QUOTE]Sounds great. Thanks for the report. One complaint I have with KMP in general is that they turn down the lights when they give special service. I can't really enjoy if I can't see. Do they turn down the lights at Saran?

[QUOTE=Lost For Words; 1120380]Went to another Korean 'massage' place in Shin-Okachimachi called "Saran". The website is here:[url]http://www.saranes.com/[/url]It's easy to find. Get out at exit A4 from Shin-Okachimachi and take a right and then an immediate right on the street there. It's the first building entrance on your left. Ring room 402 and you'll be let up. It's literally about 15 seconds from the exit, so if you go further than that you went too far. The full address is listed on their site. It seems like they opened in December of last year and they still have a grand opening special price. I chose the A course, which is 45 min for 7500. I asked what the difference be / w the courses was and he said that with the A course, you just get the special service and with the B course you get the special service plus a massage. I guess the B course is longer too, but I can't see picking the B course.Anyway, after you pay he gives you a card and you walk about 200m to another building and meet the girl. I had Nana, which I must say looks almost exactly like the pictures on the site. We showered together and she cleaned me pretty well all over. I wasn't really sure what to expect for 7500, but as soon as we got back to the room and she had me lay facing up and went right to work. Started kissing me all over and eventually gave me a BBBJ. After awhile of that she slipped on a condom and we went at it for awhile before I blew my load. All in all, she has a nice rack and was definitely kinky and I ended up having a lot of fun with her. For 7500 for FS, you can't go wrong. My only complaint would be that she didn't speak any Japanese really, so it was a bit hard to communicate with her, but she definitely tried and was eager to please. Will definitely repeat.[/QUOTE]I passed by the area today after work, but I saw no signs etc, just an apartment building. Is this place just operating out of a guy's apartment? I wanted to double check that before I ring up some random person on accident.

[QUOTE=Tangerine;1121228]I did a search on the forum, but couldn't find any conclusive info, but does anyone know if soaplands and escort services tend to close down for Golden Week? If not, are they less busier than usual? (I'm assuming people are leaving town for that week). Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]Most if not all shops are open all year long, even New Years day. I really can't tell you if they're less busy or not though.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1121780]I passed by the area today after work, but I saw no signs etc, just an apartment building. Is this place just operating out of a guy's apartment? I wanted to double check that before I ring up some random person on accident.[/QUOTE]As mentioned in the original post the office is in the apartment building. Their address and telephone number is listed on their website.

[url]http://www.saranes.com/access.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Prius Driver;1121707]Sounds great. Thanks for the report. One complaint I have with KMP in general is that they turn down the lights when they give special service. I can't really enjoy if I can't see. Do they turn down the lights at Saran?[/QUOTE]Nana did turn down the lights a bit but not too much. I also went during the day so there was quite a bit of natural light and I didn't have any problems seeing everything. It was definitely a lot brighter than a lot of other places I've been.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1121780]I passed by the area today after work, but I saw no signs etc, just an apartment building. Is this place just operating out of a guy's apartment? I wanted to double check that before I ring up some random person on accident.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it is just an apartment building. There's nothing marking it and not even a company name on the mailbox. But that's just where you pay. The girls are in a completely different building [but close enough by] and after you pay you have to go there to ge serviced.

So I managed to drop by Saran in Shin-Okachimachi today and it was well worth the trip out. I believe I had Nana, who I thought was very attractive and looks pretty much like she does in the photos. I opted for the B course just to see what "massage" meant, and it was basically just fifteen minutes of cuddling and stroking, which was nice but not worth the money over the A course. Overall I had a great time and will definitely go back.I had to wait a bit for a girl to become available so I chatted with the manager a bit and now have a strong understanding of the system. A course is just "special service." B is "special service" + massage. C allows you to blow your load twice. I was told that there is a gaijin tax here of 1000 yen for a rather entertaining yet understandable reason. Apparently the girls had a discussion about whether or not to take foreigners and they don't like the large size that foreigners pack, and find it a bit painful so the extra 1000 yen was offered as incentive to take the customer. With that said only a couple of girls are willing to take the 1000 yen bonus and the others refuse service altogether. So, if you go please treat the girls nicely because they are a bit reluctant to take foreigners to begin with.

That is some crazy shit! Way to make extra money! All Gaiijins are not hung! And for sure. There are more well endowed Asians / Japanese than the stereotype indicates.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words;1122056]Yeah, it is just an apartment building. There's nothing marking it and not even a company name on the mailbox. But that's just where you pay. The girls are in a completely different building [but close enough by] and after you pay you have to go there to ge serviced.[/QUOTE]Sorry if this question is redundant, but on.[url=http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=ja&geocode=&q=%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E5%8F%B0%E6%9D%B1%E5%8C%BA%E5%B0%8F%E5%B3%B6%EF%BC%92%E4%B8%81%E7%9B%AE%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%98%E2%88%92%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%91&sll=36.456636,136.40625&sspn=31.535629,60.292969&brcurrent=3,0x60188ea3c5c4fb0b:0x759502c6240b93ae,0&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E5%8F%B0%E6%9D%B1%E5%8C%BA%E5%B0%8F%E5%B3%B6%EF%BC%92%E4%B8%81%E7%9B%AE%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%98%E2%88%92%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%91&ll=35.706665,139.782883&spn=0.003467,0.008256&z=18&iwloc=A]Google street view[/url]The building you're talking about is the building with the bike underneath the stairs? And it looks like they also offer a threesome option?

[QUOTE=Tangerine; 1122320]Sorry if this question is redundant, but on.[url=http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=ja&geocode=&q=%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E5%8F%B0%E6%9D%B1%E5%8C%BA%E5%B0%8F%E5%B3%B6%EF%BC%92%E4%B8%81%E7%9B%AE%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%98%E2%88%92%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%91&sll=36.456636,136.40625&sspn=31.535629,60.292969&brcurrent=3,0x60188ea3c5c4fb0b:0x759502c6240b93ae,0&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=%E6%9D%B1%E4%BA%AC%E9%83%BD%E5%8F%B0%E6%9D%B1%E5%8C%BA%E5%B0%8F%E5%B3%B6%EF%BC%92%E4%B8%81%E7%9B%AE%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%98%E2%88%92%EF%BC%91%EF%BC%91&ll=35.706665,139.782883&spn=0.003467,0.008256&z=18&iwloc=A]Google street view[/url]The building you're talking about is the building with the bike underneath the stairs? And it looks like they also offer a threesome option? [/QUOTE]No, actually, it's not. Google Street View is misleading in this case. If you look at the normal map, you'll see the building actually curves around the other building, I guess that's why it's off. But look LEFT on Google Street View. You'll see the building to the LEFT of the one you linked above has a car parked underneath and a vending machine in front. That's the correct building.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words;1122425]No, actually, it's not. Google Street View is misleading in this case. If you look at the normal map, you'll see the building actually curves around the other building, I guess that's why it's off. But look LEFT on Google Street View. You'll see the building to the LEFT of the one you linked above has a car parked underneath and a vending machine in front. That's the correct building.[/QUOTE]Ah, thanks very much! Haha, that really is a very inconspicuous place.

day 2.today i made the trip to tokyo shinjuku. started off at new hotpoint. after undergoing a q&a that pushed my limited nihango to its limit, the guy asked me to leave my bag out in the open shelf (with $1000 in am. ex. cheques) so i walked. that's life. i wondered over to chris usa and watched the show there. but no extras available at the adjacent pink salon so i headed two doors down.asian feeling soon put a smile on my face. opted for the 10k oil course with aya. she washed me down nicely then gave me a decent enough massage with a happy ending which made me forget the bs from two peepshows. i tipped her 1000yen (i know i have a soft spot and she did slide her thumb past its second knuckle in my ass) then headed to koreatown to refuel with a bowl of noodles.i went to jan jan. (the construction work around the station threw my bearings but just follow your nose and you'll smell the spunk). i paid the starter-coat dude and got seated. soon kana came over. plain face but she knew her stuff and within five minutes, i'd shot a load in her mouth. i tried to explain the concept of a snowball but before i could pull a ballpen to draw it on a napkin, she was gone. and so was i. 2 minutes later i was back in the street.okinawa's calling. but before that, hinodecho.

[QUOTE=Sake Joe;1123100]$1000 in Am. Ex. Cheques[/QUOTE]You mentioned you were an old timer in the Yokohama thread, but traveler's chegues?!That really dates you.(In Japan, you can draw from an overseas bank an any 7-11 or Daily Yamazaki. In nearly every other country you can draw from any bank from just about any machine. Good exchange rates too.)

So I checked out Saran tonight around 8pm. It seemed to be a busy night as they almost turned me away until I told them it was for only me. Really easy to get there as mentioned before, right next to the exit and a block down to where the girls were. Has Sara and was pretty close to the pics. One part I didn't like was that since it was a really busy night I guess the water heater didn't have enough time to heat up so was pretty much washed up in cold water. The flow must be a routine, started with me facing up, BBBJ and straight to business. Also got some chocolate at the end for valentines day. Can't complain much for the price though I do worry in places with all the girls in a single place with rooms separated by curtains and registered as a normal esute is asking to be raided.

Currently on my 1st visit to Tokyo, and have been to the Kings Club twice already. First, a 80 minute session with Ran, which was terrific, and then a 60 minute session with Miyuki, which was also good. Used the mat on both occasions, but was a little rushed on the 60 minute session. I called the place and reserved both ladies. They also paid for my taxi fare from the Ueno station, then took me back by private car after the appointment.

Last night I also walked around the Roppongi area. Lot's of action and I was offered every type of lady and activity that you can think of. Spent some time in the Motown bar which was crazy on a Saturday night, but I didn't have the gas to play anymore. I will be back though as plenty of ladies appeared available. Not sure of the pricing structure though.

Hello Jared, I'm a Japanese born and grown in france, but I came to live in Tokyo for 1 year.If your offer is still valid it will nice to share a beer there! [QUOTE=Little Jared; 1102297][url]Http://www.kiraracafe.com/[/url]Two branches. Maps attached, I personnally don't think they are hard to find but opinion may be biased by that I'be been there a lot.Though I believe you understand the system, basically you have 2 rooms. A magic mirror in between allows the mens room to see the ladies room without being seen. (Disclaimer: not talking about bathrooms here) If you like a girl, call the staff and they will guide you to a room where you can get to know the girl (by this I mean TALK) and figure out what you would like next stage to be (karaoke, bar, restaurant, darts (WTF) , hotel.).The 2 places are quite similar, but girls are not always the same (many are registered in both shops though).Shinjuku.- Girls more used to Gaijin.- Men's space is ridiculously small.- More girls around 9-10pm.- Open until 5:00 (Sunday 0:00) Ikebukuro.- More "natural" girls (not dyed, no 15cm heels) - More girls around 6-7pm.- Open until 0:00.Now I'm talking about places that are 4 train stops away from each other, so just add 'slightly' everywhere in the list above.Also note that Shinjuku sometimes have 'gyaku' (inverted) nampa events where boys and girls switch rooms (you're the one being seen and picked. But you're still the one who pays hahaha) Some comments :- 99. 5 % of the girls are Japanese, most in their early 20s.- A fair number of girls do act like pros ('Hello, what's your name, yeah whatever let's go to hotel. 25, 000 OK? ') but most of them are freebies and are students, shop vendors, 'freeters' etc. In the real world. Looks and attitude follow, which means you can expect to meet real girls next door (for what the meaning of 'girl next door' in a city like Tokyo is worth) and that karaoke and drinks are enough to entertain them.- This being said, most are here for the same reason: your money (some are here for the free soft drinks and air conditioner) - Rules: Max. 5-10 minutes of talk. Can talk to as many girls as you want, but only once per girl. Don't touch, Don't exchange personal contacts inside the shop. The talk time is supposed to give you the occasion to nampa the girl so anything that would be inappropriate in 'real-life' nampa (touching, harassing.) is not okay in here.Also use this time to negociate your price.- Damage:5000-6000 Yen to get in the shop and for free talk.+ 3000 Yen to get out if accompanied ('couple's establishment fee') + Pocket money for the girl.+ probably everything else that has to be paid on the way to wherever you want to take her (Kabukicho is full of cheap rental rooms) Girls usually want 2, 000-5, 000 for drinks and karaoke, and sex generally goes from 20, 000 up to 50, 000 (I had to laugh at the face of that one). Not all the girls offer it (in contrast, some only offer sex) Actually it partly depends on how you act and if she likes you.It's possible to get something nice for slightly cheaper, but don't really count on it.If getting laid is all that you want then obviously this is not the cheapest place in Tokyo. On the other hand, if you want something closer to a nice date with your girlfriend, I think you might enjoy the Kirara.And my 2 yen:- All the girls fill a profile form when they register. Reading them can get you an idea of what you can expect or not ("do you like sex? Average / a lot / hell yeah I do. Check most suitable one") - You don't NEED to speak Japanese to get in. Staff is gaijin-friendly (at least in Shinjuku, not sure in Ikebukuro since I look and speak Japanese) and will be glad to let you in and guide you through if you understand the rules.BUT if you don't, your options are limited (see previous point) and many girls don't speak English.In that case going with a Japanese will probably help. If you're interested, we can go together next time and share a beer.- All the girls fill a profile form when they register. Reading them can get you an idea of what you can expect or not ("do you like sex? Average / a lot / hell yeah I do. Check most suitable one") - Usually going to sex places in group. Especially foreigners. Is a baaaad idea. But here it is totally ok (I will say up to 4 people) and can be fun (you can arrange double dates) - At the beginning I was always going for straightforward sex, and then got tired of it. Now I prefer to go earlier (late afternoon) and take the girls to karaoke and drinks, and see what happens when last train gets close. No guarantee of sex but I'm having more fun this way and sometimes score at the end.This is already been a long post, so I suggest you PM me if you want more details or have questions.Take care.Jared[/QUOTE]

Many overseas cards charge surcharges for foreign access. If he gets cheques for free then it can save an extra $30-$40 per $1000.

[QUOTE=Xslikx; 1123260]You mentioned you were an old timer in the Yokohama thread, but traveler's chegues?

That really dates you.

(In Japan, you can draw from an overseas bank an any 7-11 or Daily Yamazaki. In nearly every other country you can draw from any bank from just about any machine. Good exchange rates too.) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xslikx; 1123260]You mentioned you were an old timer in the Yokohama thread, but traveler's chegues?

That really dates you.

(In Japan, you can draw from an overseas bank an any 7-11 or Daily Yamazaki. In nearly every other country you can draw from any bank from just about any machine. Good exchange rates too.) [/QUOTE]Well, using credit card to draw cash can cost you up to 5% more than using TCs. So maybe the one which "is dated" is not the one that you think.

Not just credit cards. Debit cards can have huge hidden charges attached to them, especially at the major banks in the US. TC are pretty reliable and you can get them replaced if you lose them or they get stolen.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1125433]Well, using credit card to draw cash can cost you up to 5% more than using TCs. So maybe the one which "is dated" is not the one that you think.[/QUOTE]

Hello, Today I tried the well advertised DH s-hana from Gotanda.Order placed in nihongo, I insisted for meeting the girl outside and not inside a LH.Called hina, hardly looked like the girl on the website. (didn't check again) I should have taken advantage of that and cancel, because the delivered girl was really a busu.Slim, bad teeth, badly dressed (like a schoolgirl despite she was 30+ as far as I can guess) , very average face, no tits, I would rate her looks as 2 or 3/10 max.Then I thought I didn't want any trouble with this shop, so I headed for the LH.Shower, then starting to play. She made me understand no H (honban) rather quickly. That turned me down quite a bit, but hey, I tried to enjoy the CIM thing, as much as I could given the circumstances.Her attitude wasnt that bad, I'm sure if she's with a guy she really likes, or who tries to arouse her more than I did, she may want the H thing, but not sure of that, she seems scared of non-J guntoys.Hed BJ technique was bad and given her teeth, that might have been a good thing actually.Well. 20K for the girl (90mns) + 4k for the hotel + 2K for taxis. Thats a hardl and expensive learned lesson (again).Next time, ill stick for the pinsaro, for a kdh, the Chinese or korean este in otsuka / nippori if theyre still there.Or try kings house in yoshiwara.

[QUOTE=Prius Driver; 1122042]As mentioned in the original post the office is in the apartment building. Their address and telephone number is listed on their website.[url]http://www.saranes.com/access.html[/url][/QUOTE]I understand Saran is a Korean massage. Do I have to speak any Japanese?

[QUOTE=Prius Driver; 1122042]As mentioned in the original post the office is in the apartment building. Their address and telephone number is listed on their website.[url]http://www.saranes.com/access.html[/url][/QUOTE]Do you need to speak Japanese?

[QUOTE=Paul Hill;1126359]Do you need to speak Japanese?[/QUOTE]When I was chatting with the manager, I asked if he's ever had foreign customers that can't speak Japanese and he just said "Usually the foreigners that come in can speak at least a little Japanese." He mentioned that he can't speak English at all and was glad no English only customers had come in yet. So from that chat I think you probably can get away with incredibly minimal Japanese, but I'm not so sure about no Japanese at all.

[QUOTE=Herpes; 1126026]Hello,

Today I tried the well advertised DH s-hana from Gotanda.

Order placed in nihongo, I insisted for meeting the girl outside and not inside a LH.

Called hina, hardly looked like the girl on the website. (didn't check again)

I should have taken advantage of that and cancel, because the delivered girl was really a busu.

Slim, bad teeth, badly dressed (like a schoolgirl despite she was 30+ as far as I can guess) , very average face, no tits,

I would rate her looks as 2 or 3/10 max.

Then I thought I didn't want any trouble with this shop, so I headed for the LH.

Shower, then starting to play. She made me understand no H (honban) rather quickly. That turned me down quite a bit, but hey, I tried to enjoy the CIM thing, as much as I could given the circumstances.

Her attitude wasnt that bad, I'm sure if she's with a guy she really likes, or who tries to arouse her more than I did, she may want the H thing, but not sure of that, she seems scared of non-J guntoys.

Hed BJ technique was bad and given her teeth, that might have been a good thing actually.

Well. 20K for the girl (90mns) + 4k for the hotel + 2K for taxis. Thats a hardl and expensive learned lesson (again).

Next time, ill stick for the pinsaro, for a kdh, the Chinese or korean este in otsuka / nippori if theyre still there.

Or try kings house in yoshiwara. [/QUOTE]Yes, looks like Kings club in Yoshiwara would give you far better service for the same price.

Thanks for posting. Bad experiences are as useful, if not even more, to hear about!

[QUOTE=Herpes; 1126026]Hello,

Today I tried the well advertised DH s-hana from Gotanda.

Order placed in nihongo, I insisted for meeting the girl outside and not inside a LH.

Called hina, hardly looked like the girl on the website. (didn't check again)

I should have taken advantage of that and cancel, because the delivered girl was really a busu.

Slim, bad teeth, badly dressed (like a schoolgirl despite she was 30+ as far as I can guess) , very average face, no tits,

I would rate her looks as 2 or 3/10 max.

Then I thought I didn't want any trouble with this shop, so I headed for the LH.

Shower, then starting to play. She made me understand no H (honban) rather quickly. That turned me down quite a bit, but hey, I tried to enjoy the CIM thing, as much as I could given the circumstances.

Her attitude wasnt that bad, I'm sure if she's with a guy she really likes, or who tries to arouse her more than I did, she may want the H thing, but not sure of that, she seems scared of non-J guntoys.

Hed BJ technique was bad and given her teeth, that might have been a good thing actually.

Well. 20K for the girl (90mns) + 4k for the hotel + 2K for taxis. Thats a hardl and expensive learned lesson (again).

Next time, ill stick for the pinsaro, for a kdh, the Chinese or korean este in otsuka / nippori if theyre still there.

Or try kings house in yoshiwara. [/QUOTE]In my experience with this provider it is to some extent hit and miss. But all in all I have had far more good than bad experiences witn S-Hana girls.

Just tonight I had a very enjoyable session with "Ai". She fully resembled the posted pictures and the data on the web managed my expectations in terms of boobs size. Her Ass was great, she has a cute face and a good attitude. In terms of the level of service, there are obvious legal limitations as to what is allowed and what not, but as Bro Herpes pointed out, a little effort can go a long way in terms of what two adults might eventually consentually decide to do.

My advice when using this provider is to thoroughly research the web pictures (after all you might agree that even in terms of the web pictures "hina" would not qualify for the stunner category) , the web data (and run a google translate on the respective page if you cannot guess the Japanese) to ensure you get the attributes (e. G. Boob size, ass etc) you are looking for and last but certainly not least treat the girls well (offer them a drink, be gentle). This will make the session all the much better. Also don't ask for Honban, this should far more be something natural in the course of action if you are lucky with your choice.

BTW Japanese is not a requirement with S-Hana, but in order to achieve a GFE like athmospere with a Girl Engios===p

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1126792]When I was chatting with the manager, I asked if he's ever had foreign customers that can't speak Japanese and he just said "Usually the foreigners that come in can speak at least a little Japanese." He mentioned that he can't speak English at all and was glad no English only customers had come in yet. So from that chat I think you probably can get away with incredibly minimal Japanese, but I'm not so sure about no Japanese at all.[/QUOTE]I don't know about this specific place, but my personal experience in general, is that even a very basic minimal level of nihongo goes a very long way to open doors. Worth the effort to learn.

[quote=sake joe; 1123100]day 2.

today i made the trip to tokyo shinjuku. started off at new hotpoint. after undergoing a q&a that pushed my limited nihango to its limit, the guy asked me to leave my bag out in the open shelf (with $1000 in am. ex. cheques) so i walked. that's life. i wondered over to chris usa and watched the show there. but no extras available at the adjacent pink salon so i headed two doors down.

asian feeling soon put a smile on my face. opted for the 10k oil course with aya. she washed me down nicely then gave me a decent enough massage with a happy ending which made me forget the bs from two peepshows. i tipped her 1000yen (i know i have a soft spot and she did slide her thumb past its second knuckle in my ass) then headed to koreatown to refuel with a bowl of noodles.

i went to jan jan. (the construction work around the station threw my bearings but just follow your nose and you'll smell the spunk). i paid the starter-coat dude and got seated. soon kana came over. plain face but she knew her stuff and within five minutes, i'd shot a load in her mouth. i tried to explain the concept of a snowball but before i could pull a ballpen to draw it on a napkin, she was gone. and so was i. 2 minutes later i was back in the street.

can anyone help out with directions for both

"jan jan"

and

"asian feeling"

in shinjuku.

also for us newbies, how are we going to be able to tell them from the front.

thanks

[QUOTE=Toddtworip; 1127730]Can anyone help out with directions for both

"Jan Jan"

And

"Asian Feeling"

In Shinjuku.

Also for us newbies, how are we going to be able to tell them from the front.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Well, just toss these coordinates into Google maps:

Janjan 35?43'57. 57"N 139?44'25. 04"E.

Asian feeling 35?41'40. 11"N 139?42'5. 68"E.

And these are the signs for them. Tell us how you like 'them!

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I have been in Tokyo for the past few days with a friend of mine and simply loving Tokyo and being blown away by the J girls I see everyday every were. First time in Japan, so no J lingo skills yet however I am trying to learn and will definitely invest the time to learn for the next time I am in town. I will be here for another few days. Would love to meet with fellow mongers who are familiar with the scene to help a Tokyo newbie. So anyone in town now and would like to hang around, go hunting together, pm me or post here please. Couple of first drinks on me.Arigato gosaimas!

Tried to find this place but no luck. Web site is still up but has changed to a place called Oasis, map is in the same location but I walked around the block about 10 times and asked several people for help (store owners or younger men that I guessed might speak English. Everyone was polite and helpful but no joy. I don't have enough Japanese to try calling the number (plus no cell phone) and I was too chicken to ask the 7-11 attendant to call for me. I found the exact spot on the google streetview easily enough but could not find anything resembling the entrance. Running out of time I ended up going to another part of Ueno and got completely ripped off but that's another post. Anyone know if this establishment is still in business?

K.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words; 1014184]Went to Korean massage place called Himawari (

[url]http://www.bihaku-dh.com/[/url]

) the other day. It's in Okachimachi (between Ueno and Akihabara) and fairly easy to find. Here's a Google Street View of the building (the door's on the right side).

[url]http://bit.ly/cfIe9j[/url]

Just push 501 and call on on the receiver on the wall and shortly thereafter the door will open. Go up to room 501 and ring the bell.

It's fairly straight forward. I was given some tea and explained the system. I was told the 7000 option on the website doesn't include any "extras" and is just a normal massage, so I went with the 10000 for 60 minutes option. Shortly thereafter was guided to a 'room' with a nice enough looking Korea girl waiting for me. She wasn't all that chatty, but nice enough and took off my clothes and guided me to the shower. She showered me, which was nice, paying special attention to down there. Dried off and back to the room for a mediocre 10 minute massage. She left the room for a few minutes and came back topless and flipped me over. From there it was a CBJ for awhile and then. Without any suggestion from me. She just got on her back and spread her legs. So I guess that FS is pretty much par for the course here. After we finished up, another shower, more tea and then I dressed up and was on my way.

Fairly simple, really, and relatively cheap at 10000 for FS. [/QUOTE]

Tried to find UBC in Ueno because it looked promising from the web site. Followed the directions and found the street easily enough, running parallel to the edge of the park behind the Tsutaya store. Got there early and nothing much was open, however a few touts approached me with books. One older guy had a book from a place called Scandals and he seemed less sleazy than the others but I didn't follow him either. Walked the length of the alley, which seems to have a large number of small clubs as well as eating places etc. UBC is about opposite the AMPM. I decided to chance a Thai massage place at the far end as it was one of the few places open and had a very nice massage but no extra services offered (too bad because the girl on duty was hot). I went to get something to eat and came back after dark and there was more traffic but still quite quiet (I think it must have been a holiday weekend). Found UBC and they were OK with me being Gaijin but I couldn't pass the language test at the counter. They were offering me a menu card and talking real fast. I tried to bluff my way through it but they politely turned me away. There is another place in the same building but the same thing happened. They were definitely open to foreigners though with better language skills. Back on the street and frustrated I made the fatal mistake of seeking out the Scandals place just because at least the tout had approached me in English. I found it down a side street despite being deflected a couple of times by touts for other establishments. The doorman welcomed me in English and let me in. He showed me a menu and I handed over my last few Yen for a 45 minute course. So far so good. I was taken inside to a small waiting room, given a drink and then taken a few minutes later to a booth inside. It was dark and there was loud music as usual. A girl appeared dressed in a nurses uniform. 30 something but not bad looking and quite busty. She got me to undress and wiped me down with the usual kit and put a condom on me before I was really even aroused. No english but she was smiling and giggling and put me at ease. Then things started to go down hill. Another menu appeared and I gathered that my chosen course did not include any touching or costume play. The options on the card were way expensive (like 50000 and up) so I tried to decline. She was persistent so I made fatal mistake #2 of opening my wallet to show that I didn't have any Yen left. I had about $100 US in there and she literally grabbed it and ran out of the booth. I was so surprised I just sat there dumbfounded! She came back a minute later and I though maybe she had given the cash to the doorman and I had unwittingly bought some lesser option. But then she motioned if I had any more and clearly mentioned credit cards but luckily I didn't have any with me. I said no more and she got quite pissed. She got me to lie down and started a hurried hand job while continuing to grumble away in Japanese. Not knowing what option I might have paid for I tried to touch her but that just prompted another request for credit cards. She actually reached for my pants to try looking through my pockets before I pushed them away. Meanwhile she continued giving the most rushed hand job it has ever been my misfortune to experience. Ironically since I was so pissed with her she had a hard time getting me off so she had to work at it more than usual. Finally when I filled the undersize condom she laughed and lightened up a bit but I just wanted to get out of there. She cleaned me up quickly, helped me on with my clothes and showed me out. I was going to complain to the doorman but he made himself scarce. Definitely not a place I would recommend. Maybe with better language skills I could have avoided the problems but I don't get to Japan very often so I haven't picked up more than a few words. Hope others can avoid falling into this trap. There seemed to be dozens of other small places around there but I was in no mood to explore further.

K

[QUOTE=K3936; 1128197]Tried to find this place but no luck. Web site is still up but has changed to a place called Oasis, map is in the same location but I walked around the block about 10 times and asked several people for help (store owners or younger men that I guessed might speak English. Everyone was polite and helpful but no joy. I don't have enough Japanese to try calling the number (plus no cell phone) and I was too chicken to ask the 7-11 attendant to call for me. I found the exact spot on the google streetview easily enough but could not find anything resembling the entrance. Running out of time I ended up going to another part of Ueno and got completely ripped off but that's another post. Anyone know if this establishment is still in business? K.[/QUOTE]Entrance door is on the right hand side, next to the bicycle rack.

Was really interested in s-haha but I don't speak Japanese so I tried calling the manager cell phone listed on their 2010 March blog, but the number came back invalid so I called their shop and asked for their manager in English, the reception said something in Japanese and hung up so I got nowhere.Then I tried tokyonights. Jp, which offers delivery for gaijin speaks no Japanese, at 13, 000 for 60 minutes which is much cheaper then s-hana. Book the reservation online and the shop called back a few minutes later to confirm the time and charge, I also named the girl I want and was told she's available and will come on time.10 minutes after scheduled time, the girl showed up. She's ok looking but not the one in picture I booked, nevertheless I paid the charge and onto shower, BJ, massage and overall an OK experience considering the low cost. So for you mongers who want to enjoy some good time at hotel or home, this is not bad option. Just have to really confirm the girl with the agency when book, and threat refusing if it's the wrong girl / picture if necessary.Lastly, anyone know why s-hana GM's cell phone number became invalid? I called with Skype, could that be the reason? I doubt it, Skype can call any phone. Anyways probably he changed his number.

[QUOTE=Hhsshh; 1128310]Was really interested in s-haha but I don't speak Japanese so I tried calling the manager cell phone listed on their 2010 March blog, but the number came back invalid so I called their shop and asked for their manager in English, the reception said something in Japanese and hung up so I got nowhere.Then I tried tokyonights. Jp, which offers delivery for gaijin speaks no Japanese, at 13, 000 for 60 minutes which is much cheaper then s-hana. Book the reservation online and the shop called back a few minutes later to confirm the time and charge, I also named the girl I want and was told she's available and will come on time.10 minutes after scheduled time, the girl showed up. She's ok looking but not the one in picture I booked, nevertheless I paid the charge and onto shower, BJ, massage and overall an OK experience considering the low cost. So for you mongers who want to enjoy some good time at hotel or home, this is not bad option. Just have to really confirm the girl with the agency when book, and threat refusing if it's the wrong girl / picture if necessary.Lastly, anyone know why s-hana GM's cell phone number became invalid? I called with Skype, could that be the reason? I doubt it, Skype can call any phone. Anyways probably he changed his number. [/QUOTE][url]Http://www.tokyonights.jp[/url]?

[QUOTE=Kimura Takuya; 1128385][url]Http://www.tokyonights.jp[/url][/QUOTE]By the way, can anyone update s-hana's manager number? Cheers.

[QUOTE=Hhsshh;1128649]By the way, can anyone update s-hana's manager number? Cheers.[/QUOTE]When is the pay day in Japan, the first day of the month? Made a couple reservation but no call backs, so I guess all the agencies are super busy with people just got their pay?

[QUOTE=Kimura Takuya; 1128385][url]Http://www.tokyonights.jp[/url]? [/QUOTE]I'll probably go with a service like that. One that is online and Gaijin friendly.It seems like a more 'sure thing' to have an outcall come to my hotel. Then again. I never see anybody here post about having a provider come to their hotel.I've wondered why I don't see people post about that? Is it something that is not done. And not accepted? My trip isn't for months so, I've been taking Japanese language courses and will be doing so right up until I leave (which is more for a business meeting I have there). But, I also have a 'service provider' here in NYC that is Japanese and through her I am able to discuss sexual situational conversations to aid me once I get over there.And money isn't really an issue ? I have a 'entertainment budget' of about $ 1, 000-$1, 500 (81, 000-120, 000 Yen approx.) /per night while I'm there.I have to assume that should cover whatever I do.Although, the 'sure thing' would be the pre-planned hotel visit by an outcall service ? I still want to try a couple things.One, would be to go for a 3P with two Japanese women. That possibly can be accomplished through an online service but, if not ? I may have to try and test my Japanese language skills at a club. I have to be prepared to be denied but, I'm still going to give it a try.The other thing would be to just wander into clubs that might interest me ? and also see if they accept Gaijins if so, I may have to prove I can communicate sufficiently to gain entrance.I do like the 'adventurous spirit' on a lot of posters on this forum where they just wander into a place and take their chances.Although, by reading some the posts here. The results seem mixed.As long as I accomplish the 'sure thing' ? I'm willing to accept not being able to pull off the 3P or being not allowed in specific clubs. Like I mentioned, I have a Japanese 'service provider' here so, even if I come away empty handed in Tokyo. All is not lost.I feel I have a bit of an advantage too because, I have business meetings with a group Japanese people that work in the Entertainment Industry who are 'young & hip' and want to take me out for an evening. But, chances are they mean a karaoke bar or see a band. Something like that. I'm not anticipating them offering to take me to some hot sex club ? or uttering the words that would make any man's head tilt like the RCA Dog 'Hey. We're going to a Bukkake Club tonight. You want to join in? '.So, I have to plan on my own contacts, research and using multiple forums (like this) really helps.I think going there with a plan and modest goals is the best way.And I never know when someone here is going to post info about a service or club that really perks my interest.

I'm new to this scene and travel to tokyo occasionally so I did search as much info as I can online, and finally found the tokyonights site, which I have used twice, really inexpensive. 13, 000. 15, 000 per hour, and one girl is mediocre, and the other has really good service, both are clean and polite. I'm a more reserved and cautious type, so I prefer the delivery service. Deli heru.With a budget big enough like yours, I'd probably try the soapland on tokyonights which you book online and go to the shop yourself. It's more expensive and with longer session, but it seems quite unique to have the girl rub clean you and it seems FS is also available.Good luck with you visit.

Damn. I went in that door as someone happened to be coming out. Went up to 5th floor but door 501 looked just like a private apartment like all the others. I guess I was expecting some kind of sign or business entrance. I got chicken and went back out thinking I had the wrong place. I had visions of disturbing some elderly Japanese couple and freaking them out and having them call the police.

Is this place still Korean but now called Oasis? Is there any chance of getting someone on the phone that can understand English? My Japanese sucks.

Thanks.

K.

[QUOTE=Stubben;1128277]Entrance door is on the right hand side, next to the bicycle rack.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1126792]When I was chatting with the manager, I asked if he's ever had foreign customers that can't speak Japanese and he just said "Usually the foreigners that come in can speak at least a little Japanese." He mentioned that he can't speak English at all and was glad no English only customers had come in yet. So from that chat I think you probably can get away with incredibly minimal Japanese, but I'm not so sure about no Japanese at all.[/QUOTE]Hmm, I assume he also speaks a little korean to at least communicate with the girls then?

[QUOTE=Tangerine;1129021]Hmm, I assume he also speaks a little korean to at least communicate with the girls then?[/QUOTE]No he can only speak Japanese. There's a "Mama-san" that communicates in Korean to the girls apparently.

[QUOTE=Hhsshh; 1128997]I'm new to this scene and travel to tokyo occasionally so I did search as much info as I can online, and finally found the tokyonights site, which I have used twice, really inexpensive. 13, 000. 15, 000 per hour, and one girl is mediocre, and the other has really good service, both are clean and polite. I'm a more reserved and cautious type, so I prefer the delivery service. Deli heru. With a budget big enough like yours, I'd probably try the soapland on tokyonights which you book online and go to the shop yourself. It's more expensive and with longer session, but it seems quite unique to have the girl rub clean you and it seems FS is also available.Good luck with you visit.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for the suggestions! I appreciate all the insight I can get into the scene in Tokyo.I like the delivery service idea as well.I prefer to be the "home team". If possible.But, I do think I'll be going with a soapland on tokyonnights as well.I'll also keep checking back to this forum to see what other suggestions I can find from you guys out there doing it.Have fun!

Hey. New to the board. Was wondering if anyone had any tips for me. I'm Chinese-American so I can pass as Japanese by my looks but I can't speak the language very well (once I open my mouth, people realize I'm a foreigner immediately). I've tried stopping by a few fashion health shops but have been rejected. This is because I've essentially announced to the staff that I'm a foreigner. I figured I could try to fake my way through but I thought once I'm in the room with a woman, the game would be up and I would be found out. And I don't like the idea of having to be kicked out, however gently that would be. I know that I could eventually find a place that would take me but I was wondering if anyone had any tips on getting accepted at places that don't allow foreigners (with the advantage of looking Japanese). And I'm working on my Japanese but as many of you know, it takes time.Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1129111]No he can only speak Japanese. There's a "Mama-san" that communicates in Korean to the girls apparently.[/QUOTE]LOL, that's an interesting "family" arrangement they've got going there.

[QUOTE=Flight19; 1129165]Thanks very much for the suggestions! I appreciate all the insight I can get into the scene in Tokyo.I like the delivery service idea as well.I prefer to be the "home team". If possible.But, I do think I'll be going with a soapland on tokyonnights as well.I'll also keep checking back to this forum to see what other suggestions I can find from you guys out there doing it.Have fun! [/QUOTE]You are welcome.The only thing to be prepared as the "home" team is the waiting for the phone call after you made the reservation online, it could take a few minutes to half hour or more. Also don't expect to see the same girl shown in picture, as well as the advertised cup size, but decent girl nevertheless in my experience. During reservation, you choose the body type (slim, normal.) and style (aggressive, comfortable.) , I think that's the guideline for them to send girls to you. When I wait too long I just make reservation with another agencies so eventually one will call me back soon enough. I'd at least wait for 20-30 minutes first before doing that, and when later the delayed agency called back I can just tell them they made me wait too long and I changed plan.With high budget in soapland, the picture might be real as you pay a premium for good looking ones. But that price range is out of reach for me, plus I only play "home" games in a place I don't speak the language. 3P delivery is probably the next thing I'd like to try, it's still cheaper than soapland.Good luck guys.

[QUOTE=SevenLess; 1129172]Hey. New to the board. Was wondering if anyone had any tips for me. I'm Chinese-American so I can pass as Japanese by my looks but I can't speak the language very well (once I open my mouth, people realize I'm a foreigner immediately). I've tried stopping by a few fashion health shops but have been rejected. This is because I've essentially announced to the staff that I'm a foreigner. I figured I could try to fake my way through but I thought once I'm in the room with a woman, the game would be up and I would be found out. And I don't like the idea of having to be kicked out, however gently that would be. I know that I could eventually find a place that would take me but I was wondering if anyone had any tips on getting accepted at places that don't allow foreigners (with the advantage of looking Japanese). And I'm working on my Japanese but as many of you know, it takes time.

Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]My advice is to be upfront about being a foreigner. First of all, it might take a while for your Japanese to be good enough to pass for Japanese. I know people who have studied for 6 years and still have a horrible American accent. I can and sometimes do pretend to be Japanese myself, but I found being upfront and letting the management know is the best thing to do. You'll get rejections yes, but frankly if your Japanese isn't up to snuff, then you'll probably just cause more trouble for other foreigners.

[quote=farape; 1126875]in my experience with this provider it is to some extent hit and miss. but all in all i have had far more good than bad experiences witn s-hana girls.

just tonight i had a very enjoyable session with "ai". she fully resembled the posted pictures and the data on the web managed my expectations in terms of boobs size. her ass was great, she has a cute face and a good attitude. in terms of the level of service, there are obvious legal limitations as to what is allowed and what not, but as bro herpes pointed out, a little effort can go a long way in terms of what two adults might eventually consentually decide to do.

my advice when using this provider is to thoroughly research the web pictures (after all you might agree that even in terms of the web pictures "hina" would not qualify for the stunner category) , the web data (and run a google translate on the respective page if you cannot guess the japanese) to ensure you get the attributes (e. g. boob size, ass etc) you are looking for and last but certainly not least treat the girls well (offer them a drink, be gentle). this will make the session all the much better. also don't ask for honban, this should far more be something natural in the course of action if you are lucky with your choice.

btw japanese is not a requirement with s-hana, but in order to achieve a gfe like athmospere with a girl engios===p[/quote]i had a bad experience with them also and my japanese is fluent, i was dressed in a suit and extremely polite. she had the mechanical bj routine she wanted to perform and that was it. didn't want me to touch her boobs or hair. sorry but given the amount of choice available in tokyo at that price point, it's one strike and you're out in my book.

Hello, I've asked this question before, but not a lot of successful answer.- Does any one know how its possible to get into a swinger's club (preferably alone, without having to pay some escort girl.)? Preferably outside Roppongi with little gaijins (save for the guys reading this forum.) - is there some other alternative? Like some kind of brothel, where guys see each other having sex with other girls in the same room, and can switch freely (like an All you can f*ck where you pay some hourly fee for example.) I'm sure this kind of place does exist! Otherwise, this is a brand new business that could thrive easily! Thanks for your insights

There are some places called "Happening Bars" or Happening Clubs".

If you search the thread for these you might find some information.

[QUOTE=Herpes;1129491]Does any one know how its possible to get into a swinger's club (preferably alone, without having to pay some escort girl.)?[/QUOTE]"Naturist Club Silk" in Shinjuku ([url]http://www.nc-silk.jp/[/url]) has been recommended before on this board. I haven't been there myself though.

Welcome Sevenless, I do feel your pain and there is no easy answer to this as a large amount of prejudice against foreigners is built into the system and getting service is as much down to luck as good planning. When I arrived in Japan, I couldn't speak a lick of Japanese, even though I look Asian too, but after 3 years I was more or less fluent which increased my chances much more. I think it is best to come clean about being a foreigner and in the meantime, study and practice Japanese as much as possible. I wouldn't worry about being turned down, because if a shop has decided that foreigners are out, then there is nothing you can do about it, Asian looking or not. Furthermore, whilst the shop owner may not have a problem with you, the girl herself may have a problem being with a foreigner. You could live for years in Japan, speak perfect Japanese and still get refused, you just have to get used to it. And they will find out, one way or another.My advice is, if you want a simple solution, just go to Asian Mystique. You pay through the nose, but are guaranteed a girl who will do FS and no hassle. I did this when I first lived in Tokyo. If you are feeling adventurous, do some research on the net for good hotel health places in Shinjuku or Shibuya, make a note of their shop location and just pop in. If the guy behind the desk says no, then so be it. Just move on. Somewhere will eventually offer you a girl. If you are living in Japan, get studying and then you can start calling up Japanese or Korean delivery health places, which increases your options much more.Happy Hunting mate.[QUOTE=SevenLess; 1129172]Hey. New to the board. Was wondering if anyone had any tips for me. I'm Chinese-American so I can pass as Japanese by my looks but I can't speak the language very well (once I open my mouth, people realize I'm a foreigner immediately). I've tried stopping by a few fashion health shops but have been rejected. This is because I've essentially announced to the staff that I'm a foreigner. I figured I could try to fake my way through but I thought once I'm in the room with a woman, the game would be up and I would be found out. And I don't like the idea of having to be kicked out, however gently that would be. I know that I could eventually find a place that would take me but I was wondering if anyone had any tips on getting accepted at places that don't allow foreigners (with the advantage of looking Japanese). And I'm working on my Japanese but as many of you know, it takes time.Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]

Swingers means 2 for 2. You're girl for his girl.Its just a fantasy to think that you can walk into a club alone and fuck some guy's gf / wife for nothing while he watches because that turns him on.

After a long absence (gf issues) I'm back.

Feeling a little in the mood, wandered over to Takadanobaba for a little esute action.

First went into Tokyo Stand Pie Me (RTFF for the location, basically it's go out Takadanobaba station Waseda Exit, take a left on Waseda-dori, walk for 10 minutes or so until you see a vertical yellow sign with "Higuchi" written in katakana; take a right into the alley before the sign, walk past the stinky ramen shop, and take the next right into the building. Tokyo Stand Pie Me (or whatever they call it these days) is the apartment with the little sign on it, saying in Japanese,"knock if you have business here.")

Unfortunately for me, and anyone else who wandered in after 11:30pm or so, Tokyo Stand Pie Me had a little sign posted on the door, saying "we are closed for the night." This is at like 12pm on a Friday night. Go figure. I was worried that maybe they got busted or something. I knocked anyway, but no answer.

Fortunately for me, I had the number for Purple King esute. Web site.

[url]http://est-pk.com/[/url]

Basically, go out Takadanobaba station from the Waseda Exit. Take a right on Waseda-dori, past the rotary, straight for about 10 minutes. You will pass various karaoke establishments. Look for the Tsutaya on the left side of the street. Across from the Tsutaya there is a pole with a bus schedule on it. Make a right into the building at the pole with the bus schedule, it should be the "star building." Go to the 4th floor, and do not be misled by the sign which says,"Clover" esute. Purple King is keeping it on the down-low. Knock on the door (they keep it locked, I think to slow down the cops in case they get busted.)

The apartment and decor is much nicer than the other esutes I have visited. They had a nice hardwood finish to the walls and the sliding doors to each cubicle. It felt like being in a real massage esute, to the point where I politely asked the papa-san, if full-service was on the menu. He said yes. He was very friendly, and presented several photos of girls, and suggested one whose breasts were big, and whose service he said was excellent.

I chose Sayuri. I would say Looks: 6, Attitude 6, Service 4, Body. 6. She is from Shanghai and has only been working at the establishment a week. She seemed a little lazy. She started off with rubbing her naked body on my back, then flipped me over for a BBJ. She didn't want to get on top, but I insisted, but she quickly grew tired and we switched to mish. I think she came.

Afterwards. We cuddled. The store has a special going on right now, where you get 70 minutes for 8500 yen. This was one of the few times where I got all the time I paid for; it actually got kind of boring cuddling with her.

As a service to my brethren on this site, I confirmed with both Sayuri and the papa-san- gaikokujin are definitely okay at this establishment. Although my experience wasn't earthshaking, it got the job done, and I think this is a perfectly serviceable alternative to Tokyo Stand Pie Me, and a worthy replacement for Paprika (for those of us who remember that place.)

As an aside, if anybody happens to hear of any Korean FS esutes in the West / Southwest Tokyo area, I would be much obliged if you shared the info.

Thanks for the advice Basementcello and Zcorps. Japan can be such a contradiction at times. It can be both one of the most hospitable places I've ever been and at other times quite a zenophobic place.

Many thanks for your report. I wonder if going in the afternoon might find the girls less tired.

I have a couple of questions, if that's ok. Is the 'clover' place on the same floor? I am just wondering how to identify the right door.

I am kanji challenged. Does the 70 min (and other 50+ plans) include 2 pops?

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1129925]After a long absence (gf issues) I'm back.

Feeling a little in the mood, wandered over to Takadanobaba for a little esute action.

First went into Tokyo Stand Pie Me (RTFF for the location, basically it's go out Takadanobaba station Waseda Exit, take a left on Waseda-dori, walk for 10 minutes or so until you see a vertical yellow sign with "Higuchi" written in katakana; take a right into the alley before the sign, walk past the stinky ramen shop, and take the next right into the building. Tokyo Stand Pie Me (or whatever they call it these days) is the apartment with the little sign on it, saying in Japanese,"knock if you have business here.")

Unfortunately for me, and anyone else who wandered in after 11:30pm or so, Tokyo Stand Pie Me had a little sign posted on the door, saying "we are closed for the night." This is at like 12pm on a Friday night. Go figure. I was worried that maybe they got busted or something. I knocked anyway, but no answer.

Fortunately for me, I had the number for Purple King esute. Web site.

[url]http://est-pk.com/[/url]

Basically, go out Takadanobaba station from the Waseda Exit. Take a right on Waseda-dori, past the rotary, straight for about 10 minutes. You will pass various karaoke establishments. Look for the Tsutaya on the left side of the street. Across from the Tsutaya there is a pole with a bus schedule on it. Make a right into the building at the pole with the bus schedule, it should be the "star building." Go to the 4th floor, and do not be misled by the sign which says,"Clover" esute. Purple King is keeping it on the down-low. Knock on the door (they keep it locked, I think to slow down the cops in case they get busted.)

The apartment and decor is much nicer than the other esutes I have visited. They had a nice hardwood finish to the walls and the sliding doors to each cubicle. It felt like being in a real massage esute, to the point where I politely asked the papa-san, if full-service was on the menu. He said yes. He was very friendly, and presented several photos of girls, and suggested one whose breasts were big, and whose service he said was excellent.

I chose Sayuri. I would say Looks: 6, Attitude 6, Service 4, Body. 6. She is from Shanghai and has only been working at the establishment a week. She seemed a little lazy. She started off with rubbing her naked body on my back, then flipped me over for a BBJ. She didn't want to get on top, but I insisted, but she quickly grew tired and we switched to mish. I think she came.

Afterwards. We cuddled. The store has a special going on right now, where you get 70 minutes for 8500 yen. This was one of the few times where I got all the time I paid for; it actually got kind of boring cuddling with her.

As a service to my brethren on this site, I confirmed with both Sayuri and the papa-san- gaikokujin are definitely okay at this establishment. Although my experience wasn't earthshaking, it got the job done, and I think this is a perfectly serviceable alternative to Tokyo Stand Pie Me, and a worthy replacement for Paprika (for those of us who remember that place.)

As an aside, if anybody happens to hear of any Korean FS esutes in the West / Southwest Tokyo area, I would be much obliged if you shared the info. [/QUOTE]

Was wandering around kabuchiko when this african guy approach me. Told me I can just take a look and if I don't like, I can leave. He was persistant and I was curious, so I followed him to a high end night club. He quoted me 12K for 2 hours and they will find a girl who speaks english. The price includes all you can drink. You can touch and flirt with the girl and afterwards, the girl can go to your hotel. I said that is too much and after some back and forth, he went down to 5K for 1 hour. I asked him how much extra it would costs to bring the girl to your hotel. He kept insisting it is already included in the price. My survival instincts kicked in. The girls in the lounge were smoking hot. There is no way you can get those girls for 5. 12K. I also read stories about tourists getting their drinks spiked and there were lots of yakuza and shady characters in the club. I decided to pass and the guy kept chasing after me asking how much I want to spend. So did anyone ever try one of these places?

[QUOTE=Backtobasics; 1130328]Many thanks for your report. I wonder if going in the afternoon might find the girls less tired.

I have a couple of questions, if that's ok. Is the 'clover' place on the same floor? I am just wondering how to identify the right door.

I am kanji challenged. Does the 70 min (and other 50+ plans) include 2 pops? [/QUOTE]I think going in the afternoon may well find the girls less tired; it looked like they have about 3-4 girls at any one time, and I had gone after midnight, which may have found the girls worn out from the night's work.

"Clover" is just the sign on the wall opposite the elevators; I assume this place used to do business under the name "Clover". As soon as the elevator opens on the 4th floor, Purple King is the door on the right. It's locked, so just knock on the door.

I didn't try for two pops, but I assume that Purple King is like every other Chinese esute I have been to, and if you pay for more than 45 min. Or so, you can go for two pops. My girl (Sayuri) I believe would have been up for it. As I mentioned in the previous post, Purple King currently has a 70 min. Special for 8500 yen.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Timewaster;1130790]Was wandering around kabuchiko when this african guy approach me. Told me I can just take a look and if I don't like, I can leave. He was persistant and I was curious, so I followed him to a high end night club. He quoted me 12K for 2 hours and they will find a girl who speaks english. The price includes all you can drink. You can touch and flirt with the girl and afterwards, the girl can go to your hotel. I said that is too much and after some back and forth, he went down to 5K for 1 hour. I asked him how much extra it would costs to bring the girl to your hotel. He kept insisting it is already included in the price. My survival instincts kicked in. The girls in the lounge were smoking hot. There is no way you can get those girls for 5. 12K. I also read stories about tourists getting their drinks spiked and there were lots of yakuza and shady characters in the club. I decided to pass and the guy kept chasing after me asking how much I want to spend. So did anyone ever try one of these places?[/QUOTE]Your instincts were 100% correct. First of all once you paid and sat down the girl would join you and of course she wants you to buy her a drink. And don't think the all you can drink covers HER. She will of course order the most expensive shit and drink like a fish, all the while rubbing your leg, whispering softly in your ear. Then asking you to buy her another drink. By the time your hour is up your bill would be in the 40, 000-50, 000yen realm. And that girl would not leave with you, and the nice black man who was so friendly before will personally walk you to the ATM if you don't have the cash to cover.Good move dude, stay away from any and all places like that. Stick with what people recommend here, we have been here for years and know all the tricks.

[QUOTE=Timewaster;1130790]Was wandering around kabuchiko when this african guy approach me. Told me I can just take a look and if I don't like, I can leave. He was persistant and I was curious, so I followed him to a high end night club. He quoted me 12K for 2 hours and they will find a girl who speaks english. The price includes all you can drink. You can touch and flirt with the girl and afterwards, the girl can go to your hotel. I said that is too much and after some back and forth, he went down to 5K for 1 hour. I asked him how much extra it would costs to bring the girl to your hotel. He kept insisting it is already included in the price. My survival instincts kicked in. The girls in the lounge were smoking hot. There is no way you can get those girls for 5. 12K. I also read stories about tourists getting their drinks spiked and there were lots of yakuza and shady characters in the club. I decided to pass and the guy kept chasing after me asking how much I want to spend. So did anyone ever try one of these places?[/QUOTE]Well done. You are after all not such a "timewaster"! There are so many other "safe" optiobns in Tokyo, that going with those touts, as so often mentionmned here, would be criminal. In Kabuchiko, I think the only places worth mentionning (for Gaijins) are: Hinomaru, for BBBJs, DX and TS music, (strip theaters, just for your eyes) and Asian Relax for massage and HJs.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1130930]Well done. You are after all not such a "timewaster"! There are so many other "safe" optiobns in Tokyo, that going with those touts, as so often mentionmned here, would be criminal. In Kabuchiko, I think the only places worth mentionning (for Gaijins) are: Hinomaru, for BBBJs, DX and TS music, (strip theaters, just for your eyes) and Asian Relax for massage and HJs.[/QUOTE]Well done. Never trust those touts, they're all scammers. If you're in Kabukicho, New Hot Point is also worth the price.

Go into one of the information shops to find a hostess bar. An honest one will charge 1000 per drink for the girls and the same to keep the girl for the whole hour. I always decline the shimei fee and just let the next girl come over. However I don't go looking for takeout service. I just want to booze it up and practice Japanese conversation.I agree that you should stay away from the Nigerian touts.The old men touts out during the day will take you to crummy places, but you won't get ripped off.You do need to be able to say no to buying drinks, extending your time, or paying more for FS.

This is my 1st post, but I have been lurking on this forum a little over a year now. I have found this board to be very informational, and will look to start sharing info as well. My excursions take place in South and Central America mostly, but I thought I would switch it up and try something different.

I was looking for a travel announcement thread, and didn't see one. Please forgive me if this isn't the place for my post. I will be headed to Japan for the 1st time for Golden Week. Didn't actually plan it that way, but as it turns out that's when I will be there.

I was wondering if any like minded individuals would be interested in possibly meeting up if any of you guys will be there during that time, if so, please pm me.

[QUOTE=Americanthief; 1129767]Swingers means 2 for 2. You're girl for his girl.Its just a fantasy to think that you can walk into a club alone and fuck some guy's gf / wife for nothing while he watches because that turns him on.[/QUOTE]Actually, Japanese couples are way more open to M-F-M 3somes than M-F-F 3somes.Just do a search for 3p&12288; &21215; &38598; &12288; and you'll find tons of adds for guys willing to share their girls, or just watch you go at it.I'd say I get a 30% positive reply when I mail saying I'm a gaijin, I've had 2 so far.

Hey, so I have a 14 hour lay over here at the Tokyo airport, I have never been to Japan so I don't really know where to start. Anyone have any hints or advice? I'm staying close to the airport. I would love to try a soapland if one is near by. Or anything.Thanks!

Well, I am striking out. I had a 14 hour lay over here at the Narita Airport and I can't find anything in the area. If there is anyone online that can help please do. Thanks

[QUOTE=Knobbyxx;1131412]Well, I am striking out. I had a 14 hour lay over here at the Narita Airport and I can't find anything in the area. If there is anyone online that can help please do. Thanks[/QUOTE]Search this thread under "NArita". You will see that you need at least 3 hours to go and 3 hours to come back. That leaves you 8 hour, minus 2 for going in and out of immigration. You are left with 6-7h. That's enough for 1) a soapland in Yoshiwara. 2) A couple of Bjs in pink salons.

As you are a newbie in Japan, I would not recommend any action which requires going to love hotels etc.

My best advice is to go to the kings club soapland in yoshiwara. See some recent posts about this place, and check their website. You can book and choose your girl in advance, take the subway to Ueno, (Narita express) be picked up and dropped by the club's limo at the station, and have a good 2 hours session with a real japanese woman, including FS for about 30, 000 yens, (plus cost of transport from and to Narita).

The other otpion is Asian Mystique, but expensive: 35000 basic price, plus surcharge for travelling to narita, plus cost of an hotel room near narita. See their website.

Good luck. If I were yopu, I would definitively jump in and go to the soapland.

Thanks for the info. I am already in my hotel (stay at the Marita Nikko). I was hoping that I could get something local or have a girl come here. I called the massage in the hotel and an OLD lady came to my room, so I asked her to leave. I have ALWAYS wanted to try a Soapland, but iam not sure that I have the time.

So I guess there is NOTHING local here near the airport huh?

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1131422]Search this thread under "NArita". You will see that you need at least 3 hours to go and 3 hours to come back. That leaves you 8 hour, minus 2 for going in and out of immigration. You are left with 6-7h. That's enough for 1) a soapland in Yoshiwara. 2) A couple of Bjs in pink salons.

As you are a newbie in Japan, I would not recommend any action which requires going to love hotels etc.

My best advice is to go to the kings club soapland in yoshiwara. See some recent posts about this place, and check their website. You can book and choose your girl in advance, take the subway to Ueno, (Narita express) be picked up and dropped by the club's limo at the station, and have a good 2 hours session with a real japanese woman, including FS for about 30, 000 yens, (plus cost of transport from and to Narita).

The other otpion is Asian Mystique, but expensive: 35000 basic price, plus surcharge for travelling to narita, plus cost of an hotel room near narita. See their website.

Good luck. If I were yopu, I would definitively jump in and go to the soapland. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knobbyxx; 1131435]Thanks for the info. I am already in my hotel (stay at the Marita Nikko). I was hoping that I could get something local or have a girl come here. I called the massage in the hotel and an OLD lady came to my room, so I asked her to leave. I have ALWAYS wanted to try a Soapland, but iam not sure that I have the time.

So I guess there is NOTHING local here near the airport huh? [/QUOTE]There is NOTHING local. As said before, the only option is delivery form Asian Mystique. But if you are already in your hotel and only have a few hours, that might be too late.

I gave you all info regarding soapland. Ifplanned and booked, you need all together 6-7hours from your hotel and back.

[QUOTE=X Tamron; 1131197]Actually, Japanese couples are way more open to M-F-M 3somes than M-F-F 3somes.Just do a search for [b]3p&12288; &21215; &38598; &12288; [/b] And you'll find tons of adds for guys willing to share their girls, or just watch you go at it.I'd say I get a 30% positive reply when I mail saying I'm a gaijin, I've had 2 so far. [/QUOTE]What's that?

Hey guys,

One quick question for pink salon.

Are the price for one shot? Or N shot as long as you can?

Please advise if anyone could help. Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=Airtaiwan; 1132124]Hey guys,

One quick question for pink salon.

Are the price for one shot? Or N shot as long as you can?

Please advise if anyone could help. Thanks a lot. [/QUOTE]I think one shot, at least if you take the short time option. I recall a tout suggesting to me 2 shots and 2 girls in one joint in Sugamo. Did not take the offer, sicne I cannot come twice with BJ in 30 min.

No posts about the earthquake yet. I suppose everyone is busy Running for Their Lives!

My ex sent a Skype to me from Tokyo, saying the power was off. I bet her drive home sucked big time. Hope she had a full tank of gas.

I see the epicenter is off Sentai in the NE. So I am wondering if this counts for "the big one" Tokyo has been waiting for since the 1923 Great Kanto Quake (7. 9 Richter). I suppose the geologists will say "maybe, maybe not".

My ex made it home. She was working in a high-rise in Tokyo. The power was off, no trains running. So she found a store and bought a bicycle! Spent 6 hours riding home.

She said the city was pretty chaotic. Seems they have power now.

Jambo, glad she made it home ok. I pray for all the people of Japan. I hope my friends there are ok.

[QUOTE=Jambo; 1132655]My ex made it home. She was working in a high-rise in Tokyo. The power was off, no trains running. So she found a store and bought a bicycle! Spent 6 hours riding home.

She said the city was pretty chaotic. Seems they have power now. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jambo;1132655]My ex made it home. She was working in a high-rise in Tokyo. The power was off, no trains running. So she found a store and bought a bicycle! Spent 6 hours riding home. She said the city was pretty chaotic. Seems they have power now.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear that your ex is okay.I'm hoping for the best for the people over there during this tragedy.

[QUOTE=Jambo; 1132606]No posts about the earthquake yet. I suppose everyone is busy Running for Their Lives!

". [/QUOTE]Well, today is another story. All hell is breaking out in Japan. Tsuanmi, fires, floods and even a possible nuclear reactor meltdown.

Looks like any mongering is out of the question for a long time as recovery may take years.

Just be glad we are not there and pray for those that are.

FZ

Yes I am looking at the CNN video, and its just unbelievable. But really I believe the visible damage is limited to a few towns / small cities. You feel sorry, but the thought of 100's being swept out to sea. Just in awe at the power.

Nuclear power is going to take a hit. Being an armchair quarterback. These things depend on backup generators to keep the pumps running. And they get flooded by the waves? Reminds me of that story from Hurricane Katrina. The hospital that had backup generators, but they were on the ground floor and were flooded of course. What would be so hard about putting generators on an elevated platform, in a watertight compartment, surrounded by a concrete barracade? And also I am thinking a large water tower / uphill lake would have been useful.

Japanese live with a lot of stress. High costs, crowds, traffic, long hours, tough economy, etc. They live with the thought of this all the time. And they can't rest and say "ah well this will never happen again in my life". Its a fun place but I am glad I left. Wish my son was not stuck there.

the history of earthquake repeats itself in japan since 1914 as a massacre by earthquake was recorded in japan. even though japanese is used to get with the severe earthquake, this one is the way beyond people's imagination. however, japanese is smart and brave. they are strong and clam. they will overcome this speechless incident very well. we all pray for the family who lost their loved one. our thoughts go to japanese people as this sadness continues. viva japan.

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1132728]Well, today is another story. All hell is breaking out in Japan. Tsuanmi, fires, floods and even a possible nuclear reactor meltdown.

Looks like any mongering is out of the question for a long time as recovery may take years.

Just be glad we are not there and pray for those that are.

FZ[/QUOTE]Like everyone, I feel for my Japanese friends.

However, I don't think "mongering will be out of question for a long time". Devastation is essentielly localised in the North East coastal area. Yes, Tokyo was shaken, but nothing dramatic. And the rest of the country is safe. Men's urge will not stop because of the earhtquake. I bet that the usual pink salons etc. Are already up and running again in Tokyo. Can anyone confirm?

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1133232]Like everyone, I feel for my Japanese friends.

However, I don't think "mongering will be out of question for a long time". Devastation is essentielly localised in the North East coastal area. Yes, Tokyo was shaken, but nothing dramatic. And the rest of the country is safe. Men's urge will not stop because of the earhtquake. I bet that the usual pink salons etc. Are already up and running again in Tokyo. Can anyone confirm? [/QUOTE]Trsut you know circulation is not easy and public transport is seriously hit.

Friend of mine had to take the car to pick he up from their home (she works in Tokyo metropolitan area) as no trains were circulating. Took him 10 hrs to and back, throuigh side roads 8full of traffic) as highways and main streets were closed

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1133232]Like everyone, I feel for my Japanese friends.

However, I don't think "mongering will be out of question for a long time". Devastation is essentielly localised in the North East coastal area. Yes, Tokyo was shaken, but nothing dramatic. And the rest of the country is safe. Men's urge will not stop because of the earhtquake. I bet that the usual pink salons etc. Are already up and running again in Tokyo. Can anyone confirm? [/QUOTE]When I passed by the area near NYNY / Champs on my long walk home Friday (I managed to catch a bus from the office to Ueno Park but no connecting busses there were operational once I arrived) I could see pink salons in operation. I didn't partake though.

Hai (Yes) , The Big One. 9.0 Plus including all the 7. O+ aftershocks. When all said and done this is the big one that Japan was planning for years to survive with minimum damage.In the end it looks the JP government's response is no different than the 1994 Kobe reponse. Sorry to see this happen again but this time they can point to the "Big One." for political comfort.My prayers are with the Japanese people as time of great hardship.[QUOTE=Jambo; 1132606]I see the epicenter is off Sentai in the NE. So I am wondering if this counts for "the big one" Tokyo has been waiting for since the 1923 Great Kanto Quake (7. 9 Richter). I suppose the geologists will say "maybe, maybe not".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1132728]Well, today is another story. All hell is breaking out in Japan. Tsuanmi, fires, floods and even a possible nuclear reactor meltdown.

Looks like any mongering is out of the question for a long time as recovery may take years.

Just be glad we are not there and pray for those that are.

FZ[/QUOTE]You are probably aware that there was a relatively major earthquake in New Zealand recently.

Reports suggest that there has been an upsurge in mongering business in Christchurch due to the large number of rescue workers who have moved into the area, and seek some "relief".

Well, we get the English word "bimbo" from poor working girls during the occupation.And if this article is to be believed, there were punters showing up at the pink shops right after the quake hit.[url]http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2011/03/13/earthquake-panic-stricken-customers-girls-seen-fleeing-shibuya-sex-shop/[/url]

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1133284]Trsut you know circulation is not easy and public transport is seriously hit.

Friend of mine had to take the car to pick he up from their home (she works in Tokyo metropolitan area) as no trains were circulating. Took him 10 hrs to and back, throuigh side roads 8full of traffic) as highways and main streets were closed[/QUOTE]From the other side of the world, I can't be sure of anything, but I understood form watching NHK that public transport in Tokyo was back to almost normal after less than 24h? Is this wrong info? Even the Ginza subway line was supposingly back in the evening on Friday. I think we should not understimate the japanese people strengh and will in getting back to normal life as quickly as possible. Bless them!

[QUOTE=Dreams;1133687]From the other side of the world, I can't be sure of anything, but I understood form watching NHK that public transport in Tokyo was back to almost normal after less than 24h? Is this wrong info? Even the Ginza subway line was supposingly back in the evening on Friday. I think we should not understimate the japanese people strengh and will in getting back to normal life as quickly as possible. Bless them![/QUOTE]I agree.

And we get also contradicting information.

Probably on this side of the world we are even more emotional than those guys!

Heard "panic" stories of westerner in Osaka complaining htier government is not coming to pick them up and they have difficulties in finding a place back home.

For f* sake, they are there and they know the hell the country is in and they complain!

Ever thinking to wait as I can imagine it is a huge chaos at airports in order to handle the inevitable mess.

I also agree on the strength of the population!

Frind of mine, living north of Tokyo main concern was to report me back that at home. 24th floor, the TV monitor was still on and the trouble was a book shelf that collapsed down!

Kind of "business as usual".

If it would not be for the tsunami, (and the nuclear plant) it would really be nearly as "business as usual"!

Modern Tokyo is pretty much earthquake proof. The transport system is automatically shut down during an earthquake, but will usually recommence as soon as safety checks have been completed.

My friends there tell me the main concern is lack of electricity at some times, but I think transport has some "immunity".

[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin; 1133939]Modern Tokyo is pretty much earthquake proof. The transport system is automatically shut down during an earthquake, but will usually recommence as soon as safety checks have been completed.

My friends there tell me the main concern is lack of electricity at some times, but I think transport has some "immunity". [/QUOTE]Not really, now that the rolling blackouts are happening, the transport companies are finding spots where crossing equipment, and much worse signaling equipment is tied to Tepco's power grid instead of the railroad's power supply.

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd;1133943]Not really, now that the rolling blackouts are happening, the transport companies are finding spots where crossing equipment, and much worse signaling equipment is tied to Tepco's power grid instead of the railroad's power supply.[/QUOTE]Heard the west had sold these obsolete designs to Japan? Now silent observers? Hope all goes well for japan and like the phoenix to rise again.BB

So. I will join the throng of people getting out of dodge, by flying back to UK for a couple of weeks. Am staying at a crappy hotel on the edge of kabukicho, and yesterday decided to get some much needed stress 'relief'. My first visit to Hinamaru. 40 min option.

Bloody dark in there! It took a while to get my night vision.

Very satisfying, and with perfect timing the deed was done with one minute to spare. No complaints at all. The gal let me do pretty much all I wanted (beyond FS / AF!) , and I know it seems silly to say it, but it was a real GF experience.

Just wanted to let people know about a new variation on an old scam technique. If you meet a cute, friendly Japanese girl in Motown or Wall Street who tries to pull you into a basement bar next to the Roppongi Starbucks on the main drag, beware! The girl tried to order glasses of champagne, when I asked the waitress what the price was she replied 4000 yen and I knew it was a scam and walked out. An African guy who works there tried to make me pay for sitting down at the table but when I suggested we discuss it at the police box he changed his mind.

I was cruising through Shibuya tonight and wandered by Kadoebi, totally by accident. I decided to check it out and was welcomed in. Total damage was 18K for standard soap treatment with an older, friendly Japanese lady with absolutely no English skills. I talked to the tencho and he told me times are tough and depending on the line-up, some foreigners with Japanese skills are fine. But, he also told me something very interesting. Foreigners who meet the criteria (not sure what that means but I'm guessing it was race-related) and who can speak Japanese are usually going to know how to behave and not going to be intimidating for the ladies. Japanese skills are not the key factor but behavior is. If a foreigner has taken the trouble to learn Japanese then he probably knows a little about the culture and how to behave. That means don't be drunk or stupid, let the lady take the lead, be polite and quiet, come alone and leave your friends behind and basically behave like a permanent Japanese resident.

The lady was very friendly but not the type you would probably be attracted to in a bar or a club or even on the street if you get my drift. In other words, plain looking but not homely or ugly, just plain average looking. I asked her if there are many foreigners coming through. She said many Chinese now, a few Indians, almost no caucasians and a few Koreans. But, they all could speak at least a little Japanese so I think that's the screening criteria at the door.

The Kadoebi chain has a wide variety of "quality" levels in their many shops. The price varies with the quality. Quality seems to relate to age of lady, attractiveness of lady and the size of the room. The lower-priced locations have the smallest rooms and the oldest and least-attractive ladies. The Shibuya location is probably at the mid to lower tier of the chain in my estimation.

I think if you can tolerate a NYNY-type lady (older, less attractive, perhaps a little chubby) and are looking for no-frills FS soap treatment then check this place out. It really helps to have natural-sounding Japanese skills, even if your Japanese is weak, if it sounds natural then you may have a chance. But, be sober, be discreet, be quiet and subdued, be humble and act like a Japanese and you should be successful.

[QUOTE=Homer69; 1135391]I was cruising through Shibuya tonight and wandered by Kadoebi, totally by accident. I decided to check it out and was welcomed in. Total damage was 18K for standard soap treatment with an older, friendly Japanese lady with absolutely no English skills. I talked to the tencho and he told me times are tough and depending on the line-up, some foreigners with Japanese skills are fine. But, he also told me something very interesting. Foreigners who meet the criteria (not sure what that means but I'm guessing it was race-related) and who can speak Japanese are usually going to know how to behave and not going to be intimidating for the ladies. Japanese skills are not the key factor but behavior is. If a foreigner has taken the trouble to learn Japanese then he probably knows a little about the culture and how to behave. That means don't be drunk or stupid, let the lady take the lead, be polite and quiet, come alone and leave your friends behind and basically behave like a permanent Japanese resident.

The lady was very friendly but not the type you would probably be attracted to in a bar or a club or even on the street if you get my drift. In other words, plain looking but not homely or ugly, just plain average looking. I asked her if there are many foreigners coming through. She said many Chinese now, a few Indians, almost no caucasians and a few Koreans. But, they all could speak at least a little Japanese so I think that's the screening criteria at the door.

The Kadoebi chain has a wide variety of "quality" levels in their many shops. The price varies with the quality. Quality seems to relate to age of lady, attractiveness of lady and the size of the room. The lower-priced locations have the smallest rooms and the oldest and least-attractive ladies. The Shibuya location is probably at the mid to lower tier of the chain in my estimation.

I think if you can tolerate a NYNY-type lady (older, less attractive, perhaps a little chubby) and are looking for no-frills FS soap treatment then check this place out. It really helps to have natural-sounding Japanese skills, even if your Japanese is weak, if it sounds natural then you may have a chance. But, be sober, be discreet, be quiet and subdued, be humble and act like a Japanese and you should be successful. [/QUOTE]Thanks. Did I read properly that you can get FS? In other words, if you compare this place to NYNY, you pay twice the price, get the same kind of lady, but the difference is FS? Correct?

Can't agree more with your comments on learning japanese. I now have very basic conversation skills, but enough to show that I am familiar with Japan and its culture. That has helped me considerably to be accepted in many places where I usually was not. I think it also has to do with my own confidence: the way I introduce myself is now very different, because I have confidence in my ability to communicate. Worth the efforts.

Hi friends! I have been to Tokyo a few times in the past but this is really the first time that I get a chance to monger. I have been reading a lot about Champs and NYNY. Feel that these are good places for me to start.

I spent some time reading the forum, but have a couple of questions:

- Do the providers usually strip down when they soap, massage and serve you? Or is that something that you would need to request them to do and not always happen? How about touching them?

- Similarly, while more people reported BBBJ and CIM seems to be quite common in both places, are they still the standard these days? How about DATY and DFK?

Thanks. And if I do get a chance to try the places out, I will certainly report my experience here.

Every provider is different. Some will only offer HJ. You need to check the website and translate what their talent is. Some give killer massages, some give nice BBJ, a few will do CIM. Some will let you touch and finger them, some will not. It all depends on the lady. It is a nude service. Don't push them, either. You can ask but if you try to force your way on them you will be asked to leave without a refund. The rules are rules and that's the way it is in Japan.

Also, you have to understand that for the most part, these ladies are realistically in their 40's. 50's and maybe even early 60's. Some are in their 20's and 30's but I would say the average age is probably early-mid-40's.

But, they are almost all very nice, friendly, hard-working and will be very friendly.

[QUOTE=Sniffer; 1135767]Hi friends! I have been to Tokyo a few times in the past but this is really the first time that I get a chance to monger. I have been reading a lot about Champs and NYNY. Feel that these are good places for me to start.

I spent some time reading the forum, but have a couple of questions:

- Do the providers usually strip down when they soap, massage and serve you? Or is that something that you would need to request them to do and not always happen? How about touching them?

- Similarly, while more people reported BBBJ and CIM seems to be quite common in both places, are they still the standard these days? How about DATY and DFK?

Thanks. And if I do get a chance to try the places out, I will certainly report my experience here. [/QUOTE]

That is correct. It's like going to NYNY and getting FS for double the price.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1135663]Thanks. Did I read properly that you can get FS? In other words, if you compare this place to NYNY, you pay twice the price, get the same kind of lady, but the difference is FS? Correct?

Can't agree more with your comments on learning japanese. I now have very basic conversation skills, but enough to show that I am familiar with Japan and its culture. That has helped me considerably to be accepted in many places where I usually was not. I think it also has to do with my own confidence: the way I introduce myself is now very different, because I have confidence in my ability to communicate. Worth the efforts. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Homer69; 1135907]Every provider is different. Some will only offer HJ. You need to check the website and translate what their talent is. Some give killer massages, some give nice BBJ, a few will do CIM. Some will let you touch and finger them, some will not. It all depends on the lady. It is a nude service. Don't push them, either. You can ask but if you try to force your way on them you will be asked to leave without a refund. The rules are rules and that's the way it is in Japan.

Also, you have to understand that for the most part, these ladies are realistically in their 40's. 50's and maybe even early 60's. Some are in their 20's and 30's but I would say the average age is probably early-mid-40's.

But, they are almost all very nice, friendly, hard-working and will be very friendly. [/QUOTE]Thank you very much, Homer! You are extremely helpful. From what I've read, I am already expecting more mature ladies. I am fine with that. I much prefer an older gal who knows what she is doing and is more willing to serve than a young one who has an attitude.

You mentioned websites. Does Champs or NYNY have one? And my understanding is that you will need to pay extra to pick a provider, right?

And just one more question. Till what time do they open, usually? And do you know if the earthquake and rotational power outage has cut short their hours of operation?

Thank you again.

[QUOTE=Homer69; 1135907]Every provider is different. Some will only offer HJ. You need to check the website and translate what their talent is. Some give killer massages, some give nice BBJ, a few will do CIM. Some will let you touch and finger them, some will not. It all depends on the lady. It is a nude service. Don't push them, either. You can ask but if you try to force your way on them you will be asked to leave without a refund. The rules are rules and that's the way it is in Japan.

Also, you have to understand that for the most part, these ladies are realistically in their 40's. 50's and maybe even early 60's. Some are in their 20's and 30's but I would say the average age is probably early-mid-40's.

But, they are almost all very nice, friendly, hard-working and will be very friendly. [/QUOTE]Just adding to the above report, which I totally agree with; You can politely ask if you want, say, a young girl, and / or, say, a "busty" girl. Just say with a big smile, and without any hint of "ordering", I "Young?", and also mimick big breats. I can now say this in japanese, but before I learned, I still managed with simple gestures to get a younger big breasted girl.

Now, with regards to service, I had only twice bad sessions, and one was with a relatively old Lady, and the other one with a young one. As always, at the end, YMMV. But if you get a bad session, you only lost 9600 Yens (and time, and perhaps also your precious semen.)

All in all, I think it is an esay, cheap way of experiencing soapland activity. I also started there, and still go there when I just need an hour of relaxation with relief.

But if you can afford, you can get a true soapland experience with a younger Japanese girl in Yoshiwara for less than. 30000 yens. Your choice.

You pay Y500 extra to choose and the whole thing goes to the lady. They have websites but I don't recall the URL. Just remember that you will be getting an older provider who is not cute or anything like that. Almost all of them would never stand out in a crowd of one.

[QUOTE=Sniffer; 1136086]Thank you very much, Homer! You are extremely helpful. From what I've read, I am already expecting more mature ladies. I am fine with that. I much prefer an older gal who knows what she is doing and is more willing to serve than a young one who has an attitude.

You mentioned websites. Does Champs or NYNY have one? And my understanding is that you will need to pay extra to pick a provider, right?

And just one more question. Till what time do they open, usually? And do you know if the earthquake and rotational power outage has cut short their hours of operation?

Thank you again. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for our friends' information, I went and tried Champs Elysees tonight.

It was raining quite a bit and I had trouble finding the place initially, but have eventually located it. I speak no Japanese. Yet the manager and cashier were very friendly.

Same routine as described by the other mongers on the board. I did not choose a girl as it was my first time there and I don't know any one of them anyway. Yet I later found out that there is in fact a phone album in the waiting room that you can look at and pick a girl if you like.

I got serve by a girl who appeared to be in her late 30's and quite chubby. She certainly cannot be considered as beautiful but was not ugly either. Always smiling and very polite.

The service was very good. Soaped and rubbed me all over. After the clean up, she did not waste time on any massage at all. Which was fine with me. Went straight to licking and kissing my nipples, and then down to my bag and little brother. BBBJ. She allowed me to touch her breast, downunder and even partially insert my fingers in. We literally doing a 69, and eventually we were doing DFK. Yet she did not attempt to do a CIM, but rather start to take some lubricant out and do a HJ, while continuing to kiss me, and me kissing her and her breast.

All in all, I would consider this as a nice experience. The service was very good and she had a great attitude.

When I left, it was still raining outside. The manager took out an umbrella. I though he was going to walk me to the main street or something. But no, he actually gave me the umbrella. I know that is not anything expensive. But it is the thought and service that counts.

If I end up staying in Tokyo for a few more days, I might return for another treat.

I'm a seasoned monger. I like Grimpeur in Shibuya and new hot point in Shinjuku (Haruka is my gal). Been to a few places which I haven't seen here yet. I speak japanese quite well, so I don't know if they cater to the non-japanese speaking fellas.In Ikebukuro for those who like breasts check out cutie bomb delivery service.[url]www.1919ikebukuro.com[/url] (FS about 50% of the time. 11, 000 plus 1000 if you want to choose the girl) In shibuya there is one shop and 2 delivery services which offer us gaijin some good options.[url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10101/[/url](juri was very nicely shaved and offered FS to me, akane offers AF for an extra 10 thou, go in and say shimei nashi and avoid the extra 2000 yen if you don't mind them choosing the girl for you) [url]http://www.k-yg.jp/[/url]These guys have a first timers' 10, 000 yen internet special.[url]http://www.deli-tokyo.net/[/url]You can usually get them to send a girl for 10, 000 yen in the afternoon.Be polite and play by the rules I. E. Don't be too forceful with wanting FS, and don't ruin these cheap and relatively good places for us

[QUOTE=TokyoNite; 1136559]I'm a seasoned monger. I like Grimpeur in Shibuya and new hot point in Shinjuku (Haruka is my gal). Been to a few places which I haven't seen here yet. I speak japanese quite well, so I don't know if they cater to the non-japanese speaking fellas.In Ikebukuro for those who like breasts check out cutie bomb delivery service.[url]www.1919ikebukuro.com[/url][/QUOTE]You must speak very well. The website lists gaikokujin as NG.It never hurts to try. I get in to Pinky nozoki in Shinjuku even though it has a big JAPANESE ONLY sign.Always get a members card or business card from any shop that you use. Sometimes admittance depends on the person at the door / front. I've been told no, but then gotten in by showing a card.

[QUOTE=TokyoNite; 1136559]I'm a seasoned monger. I like Grimpeur in Shibuya and new hot point in Shinjuku (Haruka is my gal). Been to a few places which I haven't seen here yet. I speak japanese quite well, so I don't know if they cater to the non-japanese speaking fellas.

In Ikebukuro for those who like breasts check out cutie bomb delivery service.

[url]www.1919ikebukuro.com[/url]

(FS about 50% of the time. 11, 000 plus 1000 if you want to choose the girl)

In shibuya there is one shop and 2 delivery services which offer us gaijin some good options.

[url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10101/[/url]

(juri was very nicely shaved and offered FS to me, akane offers AF for an extra 10 thou, go in and say shimei nashi and avoid the extra 2000 yen if you don't mind them choosing the girl for you)

[url]http://www.k-yg.jp/[/url]

These guys have a first timers' 10, 000 yen internet special.

[url]http://www.deli-tokyo.net/[/url]

You can usually get them to send a girl for 10, 000 yen in the afternoon.

Be polite and play by the rules I. E. Don't be too forceful with wanting FS, and don't ruin these cheap and relatively good places for us[/QUOTE]TN, thanks for the great recommendations. I'm curious what your recommendations are for Grimpeur? Any girls in particular you've been happy with? I had Maya a couple months ago and have no complaints (FS was included).

ES

[QUOTE=Sniffer; 1136518]Thanks for our friends' information, I went and tried Champs Elysees tonight.

It was raining quite a bit and I had trouble finding the place initially, but have eventually located it. I speak no Japanese. Yet the manager and cashier were very friendly. [/QUOTE]Pray tell, how much?

Peskadot

[QUOTE=Peskadot; 1136734]Pray tell, how much?

Peskadot[/QUOTE]JPY 9800. If you want to choose a girl, JPY 500 extra.

After reading most of the posts on this forum for several weeks; I decided to get my little mongering adventure going. I can tell you that today's experience was shared by many different feelings.The very first step was to make a move from my house. I had in mind to go to NYNY or Champs for a while. Last night I then decided that I would go to NYNY in the morning. Morning came, woke up late reducing the time margin I have between playing and going to work. Also did not feel like getiing some action. However, I followed my decision and went.The second step was getting me rather nervous as it is my very first time in this game and I don't know what to expect. So I walked towards NYNY. I did some research on how to get there and even had a google street view of the place to know what I was looking for. I have found it with no problem at all. The street were empty at 1100. The surprised came from the entrance colour. In my google street view it was green. It is now purple. I did a reckon fly-by and carried on walking. Feeling more and more nervous. The goal was getting near. As I walked around the corner, I discovered Champs entrance. Are these two places connected? I don't know. I need to go to Champs to find out. Any way, walked around the block and at the second pass just dived into NYNY. Couple of gents in the lobby and a lady cashier. One of the gentleman asked me if I understood Japanese, to which I replied " a bit". Then he mentioned something about "honban not happening here" to which I duly acknowledged. Then he directed me to the cashier. The lady in there must have been more nervous than I was as she gave me 5k change on my 10k bill. I did point it out to her and she corrected it.I got to wait in a little waiting room. I was looking for the photo book that Sniffer mentioned about but none to be seen on that day. The feeling of being nervous was leaving me slowly but the need for action was not getting there.The gentleman opened the door of the waiting room and introduced me to Megumi. Very nice first impression that ignited the action need. She walked me upstairs asking if biological stop was needed before work which I politely declined. She took me to the second floor to a booth there. She introduced herself again so did I. Then she offered me a drink. When I asked for some water she did mentioned that water in these days is to be avoided. What a stupid idea from me to ask for some water. I got oolong tea in the end.She explained a few bits and pieces then got undressed and invited me to do the same. She prepared the bath then invited to sit on that small thing which I don't know or remember the name. She then proceeded to wash my important parts with such a gentle way that it motivated me to plan the next visit already! She asked me whether such or such places of my anatomy were ok to be visited. I was being very careful about touching her as I did not want to be rude or anything else. After a quick dip in the bath tub, she washed me thouroughly then dryed me with towels.It was then time to go on that bed. Face down, she gave me a gentle back massage and started kissing and licking around the nice areas. After a couple of minutes, she asked me to turn around. The need for action was then at its full potential. She kissed and licked my nipples and then went down to my very best friend. I was still being careful about touching her. After a few ups and downs. We made eye contact shen then decided to DFK. I gladly followed sparsely touching her in a very gentle manner. After a lengthy DFK I asked her if it was ok to touch her to which she answered positively with a big smile. From then I was a lot more involved but I always asked her before going any further. We did this for a long while (I guess) she was giving me a great BBBJ whilst I was playing with her most intimate areas in a 69 position.She was in full control of the situation as she decided the correct time for the grand finale! After a clean up, we had a short chat. I wanted to ask if my behaviour was ok or if I did anything wrong, but could not find the right words. She accepted everything I suggested during the performance and kept on smiling to me as she walked me downstairs. I guess that I behaved properly.Summary: What a great experience for a first timer! I enjoyed it from the first second to the very last. I was a bit concerned about the 50 minutes time limit. But to be honest. I don't even know how long I did spend with her. She is a great lady with a good personality. I will go back there again. I can't wait for my next session. I can tell you that the 9800yen spent there have put a smile on my face for the rest of the day! NYNY. You got yourself a new regular customer.One last thing before I leave you alone. Is it good manner to tip the lady after her work or is it not? I feel a bit guilty not to have dropped her a couple of thou, although I wanted to do so.

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1137453]After reading most of the posts on this forum for several weeks; I decided to get my little mongering adventure going. I can tell you that today's experience was shared by many different feelings.

The very first step was to make a move from my house. I had in mind to go to NYNY or Champs for a while. Last night I then decided that I would go to NYNY in the morning. Morning came, woke up late reducing the time margin I have between playing and going to work. Also did not feel like getiing some action. However, I followed my decision and went.

The second step was getting me rather nervous as it is my very first time in this game and I don't know what to expect. So I walked towards NYNY. I did some research on how to get there and even had a google street view of the place to know what I was looking for. I have found it with no problem at all. The street were empty at 1100. The surprised came from the entrance colour. In my google street view it was green. It is now purple. I did a reckon fly-by and carried on walking. Feeling more and more nervous. The goal was getting near. As I walked around the corner, I discovered Champs entrance. Are these two places connected? I don't know. I need to go to Champs to find out. Any way, walked around the block and at the second pass just dived into NYNY. Couple of gents in the lobby and a lady cashier. One of the gentleman asked me if I understood Japanese, to which I replied " a bit". Then he mentioned something about "honban not happening here" to which I duly acknowledged. Then he directed me to the cashier. The lady in there must have been more nervous than I was as she gave me 5k change on my 10k bill. I did point it out to her and she corrected it.

I got to wait in a little waiting room. I was looking for the photo book that Sniffer mentioned about but none to be seen on that day. The feeling of being nervous was leaving me slowly but the need for action was not getting there.

The gentleman opened the door of the waiting room and introduced me to Megumi. Very nice first impression that ignited the action need. She walked me upstairs asking if biological stop was needed before work which I politely declined. She took me to the second floor to a booth there. She introduced herself again so did I. Then she offered me a drink. When I asked for some water she did mentioned that water in these days is to be avoided. What a stupid idea from me to ask for some water. I got oolong tea in the end.

She explained a few bits and pieces then got undressed and invited me to do the same. She prepared the bath then invited to sit on that small thing which I don't know or remember the name. She then proceeded to wash my important parts with such a gentle way that it motivated me to plan the next visit already! She asked me whether such or such places of my anatomy were ok to be visited. I was being very careful about touching her as I did not want to be rude or anything else. After a quick dip in the bath tub, she washed me thouroughly then dryed me with towels.

It was then time to go on that bed. Face down, she gave me a gentle back massage and started kissing and licking around the nice areas. After a couple of minutes, she asked me to turn around. The need for action was then at its full potential. She kissed and licked my nipples and then went down to my very best friend. I was still being careful about touching her. After a few ups and downs. We made eye contact shen then decided to DFK. I gladly followed sparsely touching her in a very gentle manner. After a lengthy DFK I asked her if it was ok to touch her to which she answered positively with a big smile. From then I was a lot more involved but I always asked her before going any further. We did this for a long while (I guess) she was giving me a great BBBJ whilst I was playing with her most intimate areas in a 69 position.

She was in full control of the situation as she decided the correct time for the grand finale!

After a clean up, we had a short chat. I wanted to ask if my behaviour was ok or if I did anything wrong, but could not find the right words. She accepted everything I suggested during the performance and kept on smiling to me as she walked me downstairs. I guess that I behaved properly.

Summary: What a great experience for a first timer! I enjoyed it from the first second to the very last. I was a bit concerned about the 50 minutes time limit. But to be honest. I don't even know how long I did spend with her. She is a great lady with a good personality. I will go back there again. I can't wait for my next session. I can tell you that the 9800yen spent there have put a smile on my face for the rest of the day!

NYNY. You got yourself a new regular customer.

One last thing before I leave you alone. Is it good manner to tip the lady after her work or is it not? I feel a bit guilty not to have dropped her a couple of thou, although I wanted to do so. [/QUOTE]Godd report! Reminds me of my first visit there some 10-15 years ago. A few comments: regarding water, did she made tea with something else than water?

Tips: No, never. But bring a box of chocolate or else if you wish.

Next time, you may be more proactive in the beginning, so you get more during the whole process.

Be also aware that, sometimes (rarely) , the provider may be slighlty less enthusiastic, and / or slightly more grand-Ma like. (you did not describe your provider.) But globally, yes NYNY is a very reliable institution.

And Champs is exactly the same shop, run by the same people.

[QUOTE=Taratata;1137453]... Then he directed me to the cashier. The lady in there must have been more nervous than I was as she gave me 5k change on my 10k bill. I did point it out to her and she corrected it.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about this? In my experience, I've always just paid 4800yen (4300yen long ago) to the cashier, then 5000yen directly to the lady in the room.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1137602]Godd report! Reminds me of my first visit there some 10-15 years ago. A few comments: regarding water, did she made tea with something else than water? Tips: No, never. But bring a box of chocolate or else if you wish.Next time, you may be more proactive in the beginning, so you get more during the whole process.Be also aware that, sometimes (rarely) , the provider may be slighlty less enthusiastic, and / or slightly more grand-Ma like. (you did not describe your provider.) But globally, yes NYNY is a very reliable institution.And Champs is exactly the same shop, run by the same people.[/QUOTE]Thanks Dreams for your comments.She did not make the tea as it was bottled.A box of chocolate. Of course. It really show my lack of experience in this business! As for the provider personality. Well, she was very polite, bubbly and friendly, dedicated to her job. Good technique too. All in all, she made me feel very comfortable. Too comfortable as I have now got to fight the urge of going there again on a daily basis! I wish I had more japanese skills for a more fruitful chat at the end. But I guess the more I go, the more I will learn! I'll give it a couple of weeks before going again and maybe go around the corner to Champs. Also not picking up the girl did work for me. I was kind of worried in the waiting room but when Megumi showed up I thought."yeah! She looks good; I'm going to enjoy this experience!"I chose NYNY because I am into women of my age, so this place suits me fine. However, I need a spare plan to pick up non-working girls in the 35+ age range. Any suggestion? Of course I have read the nampa section of this forum but some up to date infos could be very welcome.Cheers, Taratata

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude;1137718]Are you sure about this? In my experience, I've always just paid 4800yen (4300yen long ago) to the cashier, then 5000yen directly to the lady in the room.[/QUOTE]Depends on the day. Sometimes she takes all the money and give the Lady her 5000 herself. Sometimes she gave me back the 5000 for me to handleto the lady. I think the normal way is for the customer to give the lady her fees, but with foreigners, thay play it safe. Most of the tomes, the lady shows me the bill and profusely thanks me for it, whether she got it directly from me or from the cashier. This is Japan!

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1137741]Thanks Dreams for your comments.

She did not make the tea as it was bottled.

A box of chocolate. Of course. It really show my lack of experience in this business!

As for the provider personality. Well, she was very polite, bubbly and friendly, dedicated to her job. Good technique too. All in all, she made me feel very comfortable. Too comfortable as I have now got to fight the urge of going there again on a daily basis! I wish I had more japanese skills for a more fruitful chat at the end. But I guess the more I go, the more I will learn! I'll give it a couple of weeks before going again and maybe go around the corner to Champs. Also not picking up the girl did work for me. I was kind of worried in the waiting room but when Megumi showed up I thought."yeah! She looks good; I'm going to enjoy this experience!"

I chose NYNY because I am into women of my age, so this place suits me fine. However, I need a spare plan to pick up non-working girls in the 35+ age range. Any suggestion? Of course I have read the nampa section of this forum but some up to date infos could be very welcome.

Cheers,

Taratata[/QUOTE]Can't help you with the latest. Am 60+, and only visit Tokyo on short visits once or twice a year. Nampa requires more time. Age is not in itself a problem, Japanese do like "old people", but, of course, to date young japanese women, one would need to be younger. I still think that it is definitively possible for men of any age to get freebees, but more likely of the same age group.

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude;1137718]Are you sure about this? In my experience, I've always just paid 4800yen (4300yen long ago) to the cashier, then 5000yen directly to the lady in the room.[/QUOTE]Yes. 100% sure. It does say on their website 9800JPY. Maybe they give the money directly to the provider themselves.

[QUOTE=Taratata;1137883]Yes. 100% sure. It does say on their website 9800JPY. Maybe they give the money directly to the provider themselves.[/QUOTE]Can someone post a link to the website for nyny?Thanks

Here ya go. Mind your manners and enjoy!

[url]http://newyork2.jp/[/url]

[QUOTE=Laydher; 1138154]Can someone post a link to the website for nyny? Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Www.newyork2.jp[/url] For NYNY and.[url]www.shanze.jp[/url] For Champs. Just around the corner from NYNY not even 10 meters away same buidling.

We're getting alot of conflicting messages here in New York about the severity of the crisis outside Tokyo. Oddly, a search through this thread doesn't turn up much on the topic.

My flight to Manila leaves in a few weeks, with a two hour layover at NRT. I'm considering re-routing my trip through Hong Kong. I'd like to know if anyone in the field can offer any comments.

Thanks.

Gumby.

[QUOTE=Gumby2004; 1138908]We're getting alot of conflicting messages here in New York about the severity of the crisis outside Tokyo. Oddly, a search through this thread doesn't turn up much on the topic.

My flight to Manila leaves in a few weeks, with a two hour layover at NRT. I'm considering re-routing my trip through Hong Kong. I'd like to know if anyone in the field can offer any comments.

Thanks.

Gumby. [/QUOTE]The answer to your question is actually in the question: life seems to go on as before in Tokyo, and contrary to what some said, this includes mongering. In fact, Japanese will probably not go for now to places like BKK, which means more demand form domestic market for mongering.

With regards to your stop over, yur chances to get contaminated during a 2 hour stop over in NRT are probably 10 millions time less than crashing when landing in HK.

[QUOTE=Gumby2004; 1138908]We're getting alot of conflicting messages here in New York about the severity of the crisis outside Tokyo. Oddly, a search through this thread doesn't turn up much on the topic.My flight to Manila leaves in a few weeks, with a two hour layover at NRT. I'm considering re-routing my trip through Hong Kong. I'd like to know if anyone in the field can offer any comments.Thanks.Gumby[/QUOTE]As you said, your flight leaves in a few weeks. There might be a great deal of changes by then. Forecast is most uncertain at this time. However, with current conditions, as Dreams said 2 hours over here can't do any harm. You will surely get more radiation during your flight than what you would get here in two hours.Find a link below to monitor radiation levels in Japan.[url]www.bousai.ne.jp/eng/index.html[/url]I hope it helps

[QUOTE=Gumby2004;1138908]We're getting alot of conflicting messages here in New York about the severity of the crisis outside Tokyo. Oddly, a search through this thread doesn't turn up much on the topic.[/QUOTE]Really? You think we don't have anything better to do than post updates on the "situation" in Tokyo in a forum devoted to P4P? What we're talking about in this forum is how to find good, reasonably priced pussy in Tokyo, not random discussions of the radiation levels at the Narita airport. If you want that kind of information, you should check the news. That's what we're doing.

[QUOTE=Xslikx; 1139205]Really?

You think we don't have anything better to do than post updates on the "situation" in Tokyo in a forum devoted to P4P? What we're talking about in this forum is how to find good, reasonably priced pussy in Tokyo, not random discussions of the radiation levels at the Narita airport. If you want that kind of information, you should check the news. That's what we're doing. [/QUOTE]He may have hoped that the head of the Japanese nucelar monitoing Agency is a ISG member.

If he is worried about radiation in NRT, he should never fuck anyone, since his riskds of getting AIDS would be much higher even with 3 condoms.

And the continuous flow of posts relating current mongering activities in Tokyo just confirm that things are back to normal in Tokyo, as far as mongering is concerned.

Can anybody explain what this site is:[url]http://www.happymail.co.jp[/url]

[QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1140491]Can anybody explain what this site is:

[url]http://www.happymail.co.jp[/url][/QUOTE]It is a social network site where people can read your postings and can contact you.

It's a dating site. The pure boards actually have people who are looking for dates, but the adult boards are all girls looking for some money in exchange for some fun.

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1138524][url]Www.newyork2.jp[/url]For NYNY and.[url]www.shanze.jp[/url]For Champs. Just around the corner from NYNY not even 10 meters away same buidling. [/QUOTE]Is it possible to book two girls at once here? I've been to NYNY twice (about five years ago) and didn't ask then. Was wondering if anyone has any success in this fantasy.

[QUOTE=TruthMartini;1140929]Is it possible to book two girls at once here? I've been to NYNY twice (about five years ago) and didn't ask then. Was wondering if anyone has any success in this fantasy.[/QUOTE]Tried to check on their website but could not find anything. Although I remember a poster in NYNY waiting room that attracted my attention. However, not sure if it was for added girls or advertising for different places around tokyo.All this said, when I went there the room was rather small (first visit maybe?) three people in there may have been a little crowded. Let us know if you get more info.Cheers, Taratata

Hi guys, I'm new to these forums. I'll be in Tokyo towards the end of this month and was hoping to make an appointment with an agency based on your recommendations.I do have a question though. I was hoping to check out this particular hotel:[url]http://www.balian.jp/shop/shinjuku/index.html[/url]My knowledge of Shinjuku is rudimentary, to say the least. Anyone have any recommendations on a good meeting place? Or would it be best just to meet in front of the hotel? I think I read somewhere that there's a conveniently located koban or something that people often meet at, but I can't remember the particulars.Thanks in advance for any assistance. I'll gladly post about my experiences when I return!

[quote=lolitacomplex; 1141714]hi guys, i'm new to these forums. i'll be in tokyo towards the end of this month and was hoping to make an appointment with an agency based on your recommendations.i do have a question though. i was hoping to check out this particular hotel:[url]http://www.balian.jp/shop/shinjuku/index.html[/url]my knowledge of shinjuku is rudimentary, to say the least. anyone have any recommendations on a good meeting place? or would it be best just to meet in front of the hotel? i think i read somewhere that there's a conveniently located koban or something that people often meet at, but i can't remember the particulars.thanks in advance for any assistance. i'll gladly post about my experiences when i return![/quote]you'll be right at the eastern edge of kabukicho. it's also a well-known place for people who frequent the area. so meeting in the lobby street level is fine. if not, there are a couple of convenience stores (lawson and family mart) within a block of the hotel. i believe lawson might be in the same building as the hotel.

[quote=lolitacomplex; 1141714]hi guys, my knowledge of shinjuku is rudimentary, to say the least. anyone have any recommendations on a good meeting place? or would it be best just to meet in front of the hotel? i think i read somewhere that there's a conveniently located koban or something that people often meet at, but i can't remember the particulars.thanks in advance for any assistance. i'll gladly post about my experiences when i return![/quote]the most popular meeting place is in front of the studio alta screen. however some of the delihealth might want you to check in to the hotel and give you room number.

in tokyo for a few more days still and decided to finally get around to trying an escort service seeing as i'm renting a small apartment for the duration of my stay. i've spent an hour reading up on this thread and it's quite expansive; champs and nyny seem like nice places to visit with the good recommendations but are outside the scope of being an escort service.on page 2 there were allot of nice recommendations for escort services; however since my japanese is at a very basic level of speech (tough i can understand about 70% tough of what i hear; it's just formulating a response that gets my brain in a lock with the grammer conflict with my native language) i don't think they'd cater to me.i did some googling around and discovered the tokyonights website on [url]www.tokyonights.jp[/url]. this website is "gaijin" friendly; having certain escort agencies they are partnered with and with an online form to order a girl.i was wondering; has anybody have any experience with this website? it could seem like a hit or miss, and maybe the site could be outdated. any advice on an english friendly escort agency in tokyo would be greatly appreciated.

hi there, meeting girls in shinjuku can be problematic, as it is a madhouse there at the best of times. i'm not sure about the hotel you listed before, but my favourite meeting place is outside the seibu shinjuku station, north exit. it is about a 5-10 minute walk from the jr station's kabukicho exit. just run it through google maps.there is a cool love hotel opposite, the p&a colorful which i have used many times. the benefit of the north exit is that hardly anyone meets there, so you can spot your girl pretty easily. there are a bunch of love hotels nearby and a cafe if you arrive early. i have also arranged to meet asian mystique and other delivery girls outside the p&a colorful hotel itself, as the area is reasonably discreet.hope it helps, bc.[quote=lolitacomplex; 1141714]hi guys, i'm new to these forums. i'll be in tokyo towards the end of this month and was hoping to make an appointment with an agency based on your recommendations.i do have a question though. i was hoping to check out this particular hotel:[url]http://www.balian.jp/shop/shinjuku/index.html[/url]my knowledge of shinjuku is rudimentary, to say the least. anyone have any recommendations on a good meeting place? or would it be best just to meet in front of the hotel? i think i read somewhere that there's a conveniently located koban or something that people often meet at, but i can't remember the particulars.thanks in advance for any assistance. i'll gladly post about my experiences when i return! [/quote]

In Akasaka, I notice a definite impact from the earthquake. One of the best mp is closed. Another had only 2 girls rather than the usual 5 or 6. A third only had one, and she was heavier and not so pleasant to look at. This makes a depressing situation even more depressing.

Tried this agent on 4/8 with good experience.

[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net/[/url]

Reservation could be made in English with no problem.

No foreign tax. Fair price with real JP girl.

[QUOTE=Airtaiwan; 1144170]Tried this agent on 4/8 with good experience.[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net/[/url]Reservation could be made in English with no problem.No foreign tax. Fair price with real JP girl. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. Which course did you pick? And was FS included? I wonder what's included in the first-time 50 minute course and if the massage-only course is really just a massage.

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1129925]After a long absence (gf issues) I'm back.Feeling a little in the mood, wandered over to Takadanobaba for a little esute action.First went into Tokyo Stand Pie Me (RTFF for the location, basically it's go out Takadanobaba station Waseda Exit, take a left on Waseda-dori, walk for 10 minutes or so until you see a vertical yellow sign with "Higuchi" written in katakana; take a right into the alley before the sign, walk past the stinky ramen shop, and take the next right into the building. Tokyo Stand Pie Me (or whatever they call it these days) is the apartment with the little sign on it, saying in Japanese,"knock if you have business here.") Unfortunately for me, and anyone else who wandered in after 11:30pm or so, Tokyo Stand Pie Me had a little sign posted on the door, saying "we are closed for the night." This is at like 12pm on a Friday night. Go figure. I was worried that maybe they got busted or something. I knocked anyway, but no answer.Fortunately for me, I had the number for Purple King esute. Web site.[url]http://est-pk.com/[/url]Basically, go out Takadanobaba station from the Waseda Exit. Take a right on Waseda-dori, past the rotary, straight for about 10 minutes. You will pass various karaoke establishments. Look for the Tsutaya on the left side of the street. Across from the Tsutaya there is a pole with a bus schedule on it. Make a right into the building at the pole with the bus schedule, it should be the "star building." Go to the 4th floor, and do not be misled by the sign which says,"Clover" esute. Purple King is keeping it on the down-low. Knock on the door (they keep it locked, I think to slow down the cops in case they get busted.) The apartment and decor is much nicer than the other esutes I have visited. They had a nice hardwood finish to the walls and the sliding doors to each cubicle. It felt like being in a real massage esute, to the point where I politely asked the papa-san, if full-service was on the menu. He said yes. He was very friendly, and presented several photos of girls, and suggested one whose breasts were big, and whose service he said was excellent.I chose Sayuri. I would say Looks: 6, Attitude 6, Service 4, Body. 6. She is from Shanghai and has only been working at the establishment a week. She seemed a little lazy. She started off with rubbing her naked body on my back, then flipped me over for a BBJ. She didn't want to get on top, but I insisted, but she quickly grew tired and we switched to mish. I think she came.Afterwards. We cuddled. The store has a special going on right now, where you get 70 minutes for 8500 yen. This was one of the few times where I got all the time I paid for; it actually got kind of boring cuddling with her.As a service to my brethren on this site, I confirmed with both Sayuri and the papa-san- gaikokujin are definitely okay at this establishment. Although my experience wasn't earthshaking, it got the job done, and I think this is a perfectly serviceable alternative to Tokyo Stand Pie Me, and a worthy replacement for Paprika (for those of us who remember that place.) As an aside, if anybody happens to hear of any Korean FS esutes in the West / Southwest Tokyo area, I would be much obliged if you shared the info.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the detailed directions. It was very easy to find. I got there and the papa-san asked me if I was new and kind of gave me the once-over to see if I was alright, but apparently he was a bit weary of my presence there since I was a newcomer to this place. They have it on their website that you should call to get directions if it is your first time.They still have the 70 minute 8500 yen special going and I chose that one. For the price you get 2 pops. He explained to me that the first time was by hand and the second time was "honban." I wanted to pick Mimi since her profile from the website looked nice and she's new, but the papa-san quickly flipped the page to Sayuri and insisted on her. I didn't want to argue.All in all a pretty good experience. I would go again, but next time I will ask for a different provider. Sayuri got the job done, but as said before, she seems a bit lazy. Anyone have any details on any of the other girls in this place?

I was in the mood for a massage yesterday so decided to TOFTT by trying a new place. Browsed the erolin.net home page and came across Aroma Yamanote in Gotanda. Their ad says they are foreigner friendly, can speak English and will offer discounts if you mention the erolin site.I rang them up around 2pm and spoke to a pleasant gal in Japanese, but she also said English was OK. She noted my details and preferences (slim gal, 70 min course, around 4pm), and I told her I would call again when I was in Gotanda (about 3:30).Got to Gotanda about 3:40 and called again, spoke to the same gal who asked me where I was, and said just to wait 5 mins for Rinko. Sure enough. 5 mins later Rinko arrives. Nice looking gal, probably late 20s, slimish (though not as slim as I normally prefer), very well spoken and conservatively dressed--looking quite OL-ish. We spoke in Japanese only, but on the erolin website it says she can speak English. She led me to a nearby love hotel where I paid ?3000 for 90 mins.In the room she asked me for the fee of ?10000 (Their website lists the 70 min course fee as ?14000, but mentioning erolin got a ?4000 discount). And she asked me to take a shower (on my own) while she did her 'jumbi'.Then onto the bed for the massage. She wore a kind of white nurse outfit with no stockings and a bit of cleavage showing. The massage itself was quite sensual from the outset, first back of calves, and then back of thighs with some subtle but suggestive brushing of junior in the process. Then butt and back, all quite soft and gentle (she did ask at the beginning how much pressure I wanted, and I replied 'medium').After about 20 mins or so of that, she asked me to flip over. Then front of calves, thighs and more targeted focus on junior-this time with more precision and goal-orientation. After a little while she got the reaction she was looking for, so she kept going and within about 10 mins I erupted.Then another shower (again, on my own) , I got dressed and we left. Altogether, I'd say we were in the room for 60-70 mins, with the massage itself lasting maybe 45-50 mins.ConclusionVery easy to arrange by phone, and a pleasant, nice looking gal who has obviously been trained to give a respectable sensual massage. However, the massage itself was a bit soft and delicate for my liking, and the 'happy-ending' did seem a tad 'business-like' to me-with her kneeling between my legs just out of my arm's reach so that there was no other touching going on. Indeed, she was gentle, and it felt nice, but I would have liked a bit more physical contact, even just to stroke her thigh while she was 'working', or for her to caress my nipples.All in all a nice experience, but I would say that the set up at Asain Feeling is a bit more to my liking and also better value, given that one does not have to pay a hotel room fee. That means that for what one gets at Aroma Yamanote for ?13000 one gets at AF for ?10000, with a bit more 'sexy friendliness', and without the need to phone and book in advance. That said, I wouldn't mind trying a different gal from AY just to compare the experiences.Manta Ray.PS: If any of you lads do try AY, please write it up. Also, have any of you tried Mangosteen in Shin-Okubo? If so, please tell!

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1129925]After a long absence (gf issues) I'm back.Feeling a little in the mood, wandered over to Takadanobaba for a little esute action.First went into Tokyo Stand Pie Me (RTFF for the location, basically it's go out Takadanobaba station Waseda Exit, take a left on Waseda-dori, walk for 10 minutes or so until you see a vertical yellow sign with "Higuchi" written in katakana; take a right into the alley before the sign, walk past the stinky ramen shop, and take the next right into the building. Tokyo Stand Pie Me (or whatever they call it these days) is the apartment with the little sign on it, saying in Japanese,"knock if you have business here.") Unfortunately for me, and anyone else who wandered in after 11:30pm or so, Tokyo Stand Pie Me had a little sign posted on the door, saying "we are closed for the night." This is at like 12pm on a Friday night. Go figure. I was worried that maybe they got busted or something. I knocked anyway, but no answer.Fortunately for me, I had the number for Purple King esute. Web site.[url]http://est-pk.com/[/url]Basically, go out Takadanobaba station from the Waseda Exit. Take a right on Waseda-dori, past the rotary, straight for about 10 minutes. You will pass various karaoke establishments. Look for the Tsutaya on the left side of the street. Across from the Tsutaya there is a pole with a bus schedule on it. Make a right into the building at the pole with the bus schedule, it should be the "star building." Go to the 4th floor, and do not be misled by the sign which says,"Clover" esute. Purple King is keeping it on the down-low. Knock on the door (they keep it locked, I think to slow down the cops in case they get busted.) The apartment and decor is much nicer than the other esutes I have visited. They had a nice hardwood finish to the walls and the sliding doors to each cubicle. It felt like being in a real massage esute, to the point where I politely asked the papa-san, if full-service was on the menu. He said yes. He was very friendly, and presented several photos of girls, and suggested one whose breasts were big, and whose service he said was excellent.I chose Sayuri. I would say Looks: 6, Attitude 6, Service 4, Body. 6. She is from Shanghai and has only been working at the establishment a week. She seemed a little lazy. She started off with rubbing her naked body on my back, then flipped me over for a BBJ. She didn't want to get on top, but I insisted, but she quickly grew tired and we switched to mish. I think she came.Afterwards. We cuddled. The store has a special going on right now, where you get 70 minutes for 8500 yen. This was one of the few times where I got all the time I paid for; it actually got kind of boring cuddling with her.As a service to my brethren on this site, I confirmed with both Sayuri and the papa-san- gaikokujin are definitely okay at this establishment. Although my experience wasn't earthshaking, it got the job done, and I think this is a perfectly serviceable alternative to Tokyo Stand Pie Me, and a worthy replacement for Paprika (for those of us who remember that place.) As an aside, if anybody happens to hear of any Korean FS esutes in the West / Southwest Tokyo area, I would be much obliged if you shared the info.[/QUOTE]I found this Korean esute looking through an esute website [url]http://moemoe-miracle.com/top.html[/url] They are located in Otsuka which is one station off of Ikebukuro on Yamanote. So more Northwest than west / southwest. It looks fairly promising from the website (200% satisfaction guarantee, guaranteed un photoshopped photos of the girls and low price) , but I have not been able to go yet. From the language on the website this should be an FS shop. I thought I would let you / everyone else know about it. Please let me know if you get a chance to check it out.

Hi guys I would like to try two girls at the same time for a BJ actually.Preferably around the Shinjuku / Shibuya areas but can travel if necessary.Day time on Sat would be ok from noon *for that afternoon nap.Late night is ok too.Where would be a good place for this, for girls who are under 30 and preferably with some breasts! I speak a teeny bit of Japanese and can probably ask for the two girls *or at least try.Shower down then BJ is cool.Obviously at a safe reputable establishment. No STDs please! Hoping to pay under 5000 for each girl If the pros could please post website links and girl recommends I will go.I actually want to go down through Dire Wolfs list starting with Fashion Health Clubs. Any recommends? Seikan Massage Clubs. Also recommendations.And of course this is recent and post earthquake as I know a lot of places are closed or the good girls have left.Kind thanks in advance heroes

My experience with Satsuki is different. I agree, she is not a beauty in the face and her breasts are very small. Otherwise she is an OK young girl. Unshaven. However, I did not have any problems with bad smell, and she was very friendly, and her service was excellent. I have no complaints.Wkr.Brannoch.[QUOTE=Cricket Lighter; 1040286]I'd the same problem with Satsuki also from AM. Her pussy smell bad which easily put me off and she got a bad breath at the time I called for her (strong garlic taste and smell) although after I gave her listerine to gargle through.Satsuki have a petite body but her service I can only rate as 5/10 while her face as in person rated 4/10. Good point is she really try to please you, can easily spot her gambatte attitude from her effort.Would love to try Natsu, the last few times she's not on the list when I gave AM a call. Maybe she's just not for me yet, while my all time favorite from AM is still Sayuri. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Airtaiwan; 1144170]Tried this agent on 4/8 with good experience.[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net/[/url]Reservation could be made in English with no problem.No foreign tax. Fair price with real JP girl.[/QUOTE]I tried calling this place last night around 7pm. That's when they open, I guess.It kept ringing and no one picked up. I kept trying for another 20 minutes, but finally they turned off their phone and all I got was a message in English saying something like "this is NTT, this phone cannot be reached."I gave up and headed over to Janjan. It didn't look very busy and the other touts were trying to wave me into their place.So did anyone else try Delicious recently? I wonder why they didn't pick up the phone.

Was heard FS for extra 5000.

But my course is 13000/50min.

You could do everything but just can't "go in"

My report. Girl is cute but same as most jp girl. English is very very poor.

I am taiwanese and manage to write some word to communicate and some body language.

But for real foreigner with no japanese skill, there will be some problem to tell the girl what you want and how you would like to do.

But still worth a try. Maybe you could ask the shop to send the girl with a liitle english skill when making reservation.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Dlbtmail; 1144293]Thanks for the heads up. Which course did you pick? And was FS included?

I wonder what's included in the first-time 50 minute course and if the massage-only course is really just a massage. [/QUOTE]

I called at 22:00 on last Friday when I was there for business.

Maybe you could try some other day. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Dlbtmail; 1144956]I tried calling this place last night around 7pm. That's when they open, I guess.

It kept ringing and no one picked up. I kept trying for another 20 minutes, but finally they turned off their phone and all I got was a message in English saying something like "this is NTT, this phone cannot be reached."

I gave up and headed over to Janjan. It didn't look very busy and the other touts were trying to wave me into their place.

So did anyone else try Delicious recently? I wonder why they didn't pick up the phone. [/QUOTE]

Had a 2 hour appointment with Naomi from Nasty Dolls earlier tonight.Overall I'd say she was disappointing, compared to other girls I've been with in the past. I wish I had just stuck with a 90 min course, but my last ND girl was so good, I decided to take a chance with a new, unknown girl.Don't get me wrong; she rode me pretty damn good and hard, and my junk is sore. She's also quite attractive, in the traditional OL / housewife kind of way. If that means anything to anyone besides me.There were a couple of things that dragged it down though.1) Not into DFK. Very disappointing. Not even a little tongue.2) Not that into oral work, and when she did do it, it was covered only.3) She must be new or something, because she talked. A lot. As in wasting upwards of 20+ minutes talking before going into action. She's actually interesting to talk to, and if I were on an ordinary date with her, this would be great. But I'm not. And put simply, I'm not paying her to talk! Next time I'm sticking to only 90 minutes if the girl is an unknown.But nowhere to go but up from here. Will have more reports in the coming week.

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1102297][url]Http://www.kiraracafe.com/[/url]In that case going with a Japanese will probably help. If you're interested, we can go together next time and share a beer.- Usually going to sex places in group. Especially foreigners. Is a baaaad idea. But here it is totally ok (I will say up to 4 people) and can be fun (you can arrange double dates) - At the beginning I was always going for straightforward sex, and then got tired of it. Now I prefer to go earlier (late afternoon) and take the girls to karaoke and drinks, and see what happens when last train gets close. No guarantee of sex but I'm having more fun this way and sometimes score at the end.This is already been a long post, so I suggest you PM me if you want more details or have questions.Take care.Jared[/QUOTE]Thanks for the super informative post. I'm going to be in Tokyo till the end of the month, so if your offer still stands, I'd love to join you in hitting up Kirara and buy you a beer. I can't use the PM system, but if you drop me a line at [email]lolisaber@gmail.com[/email] (that's my all purpose anonymous / e-commerce dummy email that I don't mind plastering on the net) we can get something going. Same for any other fellow gaijin wanting to check the place out. .Like you, I'm more interested in just chatting up some girls and seeing where it leads, rather than P4P (already did that last night heh).

hey everyone,it's been a while since i've posted. i have not been coming to tokyo that often recently, and in any case everytime i come now i always see the same girl.you can find her pictures and details at tokyo-hikaru. escortsite. com (pics are genuine, i actually helped her build her site!) hikaru is a really sweet girl, and she is truly a part-timer. she works in a call center, so her hours vary a lot, and therefore she's sometimes not the fastest at getting back on emails (even with me!).that said, once you meet with her and get into the bedroom, it is truly a gfe experience. i've been seeing her now for close to 3-4 years and i have no desire to see anyone else.she is not into the hardcore stuff though. and she's told me in the past that she doesn't always know what to think of the people sending her emails asking for rep001 and other stuff. what she provides is a sweet, relaxing and comfortable experience.if you treat her right. she will repay you in kind a dozen times over.she's really wanting to find a few more customers. as you can imagine, the earthquake / tsunami and everything has slowed down business, and she's hoping to hear from all of you guys.just mention that you got the recommendation from jamesb and she'll treat you right.

ok guys. thanks so much in advance! best

Delightful experience today in Kings Club in Yoshiwara. Girl was actually better looking than picture. Very thin, cute and playful. I knew I was in for a great time when she met me in a pretty pleated schoolgirl skirt. Standard soapland experience and damage was 27, 000 yen for 80 minutes. The girl spoke basic english and said things have been slow since earthquake, expecially during the week. Weekends a little busier but still slower than normal.

I had some free time this past Saturday, so I decided to try my hand at the whole deai cafe thing. I wasn't interested in any P4P; I just wanted to chat up some J-girls and see if I could make anything happen using just my own charm and the promise of free drinks and karaoke. .I arrived at the Kirara Shinjuku location at about 9pm. After fending off a bunch of touts, I made my way to the Kirara front desk. The guy at the front was super friendly and I asked him "I'm not Japanese. Is that okay?" He said that was fine and welcomed me inside and proceeded to explain the system to me. So it's definitely gaijin-friendly.I filled out a profile form (it's all in Japanese) and was taken to the men's waiting area.When I got to the men's area, there were four other guys there already, all of them older than me. After me, the youngest guy there I estimate was about 35-40 years old. There were three girls on the other side of the one-way mirror, ages 21-24, if the posted profile cards are to be believed. None were what I'd consider hot, but they were alright looking; they were cute enough that I'd bone any of them with the lights on while sober.About 15 minutes in a 4th girl arrived; very short but super cute. Decided to try chatting her up, but she didn't know any English at all, and my Japanese is not yet good enough to where I can have a conversation of any real length and substance, so that fizzled out.At about 10pm they reversed the roles; all the guys went to the room on the other side of the one-way mirror while the girls got to sit behind the mirror and pick one of us. There's something strangely fascinating to me about being on display like that.And also very boring. I was still tired from the jet lag and all, and it was everything I could do not to openly yawn or nod off, knowing that I was being watched. I began wondering if I should've written that I was American on my profile form.About 40 minutes into that, I decided to leave and go to a pink salon or something and call it a night. But as I was about to get up to go, the shop guy called me to chat with one of the girls.The girl's name was Sakurako and she was alright-looking, maybe 6/10 to me. She was wearing this short little one piece dress that did not leave much to the imagination, with thigh high stockings and a visible garter belt (god I love zettai ryouiki). She knew some English and seemed pretty nice. She was just looking for a companion for some drinking and karaoke, which was cool with me. So we decided to head out together.After spending some time at a karaoke bar, past the last train, I suggested that we go to a hotel, which she happily agreed to. So we spent the night together.Not too shabby for a rookie like myself, I must say. I definitely enjoyed this more than simple P4P (not that I'm knocking P4P, mind you). As was mentioned in previous posts about deai cafes, it's not the cheapest evening out. Even without having to pay the girl anything, there's still the cost of getting into the cafe (6k total for me; no additional 3k pickup fee) , the cost of an evening of drinking, and the love hotel cost.But it was definitely a lot of fun for me, and I'll definitely try it again. I think I'll check out the Ikebukuro location when I return from Osaka. .

[QUOTE=James52; 1145960]Hey everyone,

It's been a while since I've posted. I have not been coming to Tokyo that often recently, and in any case everytime I come now I always see the same girl.

You can find her pictures and details at tokyo-hikaru. Escortsite. Com (pics are genuine, I actually helped her build her site!)

Best[/QUOTE]Although it is nice to see a new face (although not really since she doesn't show it) advertising here, it would be good if someone more established could support James' claims.

James, you have only posted 6 times about Japan, and all have been about this girl. That leads us to believe (wrong though we may be) , that you have some kind of financial interest going here.

[quote=lolitacomplex; 1146162]i had some free time this past saturday, so i decided to try my hand at the whole deai cafe thing. i wasn't interested in any p4p; i just wanted to chat up some j-girls and see if i could make anything happen using just my own charm and the promise of free drinks and karaoke. .but it was definitely a lot of fun for me, and i'll definitely try it again. i think i'll check out the ikebukuro location when i return from osaka. . [/quote]nice to hear of your success.since many members here are in the 35-55 age group, it would be good to know what you saw happening with the other men in the room. were then meeting the girls of their choice, or waiting for the role reversal? you mentioned 4 others when you got there. any more come / go? considering that was the peak time on a saturday night, i would have expected more competition/prospects.

[QUOTE=Lion; 1146229]Although it is nice to see a new face (although not really since she doesn't show it) advertising here, it would be good if someone more established could support James' claims.

James, you have only posted 6 times about Japan, and all have been about this girl. That leads us to believe (wrong though we may be) , that you have some kind of financial interest going here. [/QUOTE]Adverts don't belong in this section.

ES

A while ago, somebody posted a link to a delivery service specializing in chubby Japanese girls. If you know the service or recall the post, would you please post the link?

[QUOTE=Lion;1146232]Since many members here are in the 35-55 age group, it would be good to know what you saw happening with the other men in the room. Were then meeting the girls of their choice, or waiting for the role reversal? You mentioned 4 others when you got there. Any more come / go? Considering that was the peak time on a Saturday night, I would have expected more competition/prospects.[/QUOTE]It was a pretty slow night. I also expected it to be much busier at 9pm on a Saturday night, which is why I chose the Shinjuku location in the first place. Maybe things are still slow, what with the tsunami and all? Only 2 or 3 additional guys showed up during the first half of my time there, behind the mirror. When the short cutie showed up, some other guy actually went to talk to her before I had a chance, but they both ended up coming back. I think maybe one or two of the other guys might have tried chatting with some girls, but that didn't pan out either. (I wasn't really paying close attention to what the guys were doing.) All in all, it seemed to me the guys were pretty disinterested in the available selections. One older guy (in his 50s I guess) sat on the cafe computer the entire time playing games.When the reversal came, everyone but myself, the old guy on the computer, and one other dude remained; all the other guys jumped ship during the transition. Japanese guys don't like being on display I guess? The old guy got right back on the cafe computer, and the other dude and myself sat on the couch in silence. That dude actually got picked ahead of me by one of the girls, but he came right back.So during my 100 minutes or so there, I was the only one to actually walk out of there with a girl.Oh, and my offer is still open for anyone who wants to join me in hitting up Kirara sometime soon, maybe this weekend. I would like to try the Ikebukuro location and see if there are more girls available to talk to.

[QUOTE=Lion; 1146229]Although it is nice to see a new face (although not really since she doesn't show it) advertising here, it would be good if someone more established could support James' claims.James, you have only posted 6 times about Japan, and all have been about this girl. That leads us to believe (wrong though we may be) , that you have some kind of financial interest going here. [/QUOTE]Lion. Thanks a lot for your reply. And I can definitely see why you think this.I have never been very active in posting in ISG overall, but if you look you'll see posts from me in Seoul and also in China (I think. Can't remember).I work in consulting, so I travel around A LOT and am never anywhere longer than a few days and my paterns of travel change all of the time. I'm actually based in Shanghai. If I could, I would send you my passport stamps to prove this, but obviously that would be difficult. I have also partaken of the hobby in Bangkok, Phuket, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Manila, Jakarta, Sydney, Melbourne and in places in Europe (London mostly) and North America (New York mostly) as well.Also, I've only ever posted about Hikaru, because I have only seen her for the past 3-4 years. Before her, I had seen someone called Sakura (who is now living in Australia and stopped working. But her picture is still on punterlink) a couple of times (she actually introduced me to Hikaru) and then prior to that, one girl from Alla (a total rip-off) and another girl from Asian Mystique (I think it was Sayuri. But it was 5 years ago, so not sure).Furthermore, in the past, there have been posts where I was too explicit in my descriptions about my time with Hikaru, and she asked me to take the posts down. Which Jackson did and you could check with him on that.So if I did have a financial interest, I would not have asked to have posts taken down.So, I know you may not know me, and others may or may not decide to vouch for me, but I want to say that I am ONLY doing this to help her out and hopefully I've stated my case compellingly enough.I'll leave myself now at the mercy of your collective wisdom, and hoping that you'll help Hikaru out.Many thanks to you all, Best,JamesB

lolitacomplex, i was hoping to pm you about your proposed trip to kirarara but it looks like you can't receive messages. is there any other way to get in touch with you about it so as not to clutter up the board?

[quote=lolitacomplex; 1146775]it was a pretty slow night. i also expected it to be much busier at 9pm on a saturday night, which is why i chose the shinjuku location in the first place. maybe things are still slow, what with the tsunami and all?

only 2 or 3 additional guys showed up during the first half of my time there, behind the mirror. when the short cutie showed up, some other guy actually went to talk to her before i had a chance, but they both ended up coming back. i think maybe one or two of the other guys might have tried chatting with some girls, but that didn't pan out either. (i wasn't really paying close attention to what the guys were doing.)

all in all, it seemed to me the guys were pretty disinterested in the available selections. one older guy (in his 50s i guess) sat on the cafe computer the entire time playing games.

when the reversal came, everyone but myself, the old guy on the computer, and one other dude remained; all the other guys jumped ship during the transition. japanese guys don't like being on display i guess?

the old guy got right back on the cafe computer, and the other dude and myself sat on the couch in silence. that dude actually got picked ahead of me by one of the girls, but he came right back.

so during my 100 minutes or so there, i was the only one to actually walk out of there with a girl.

oh, and my offer is still open for anyone who wants to join me in hitting up kirara sometime soon, maybe this weekend. i would like to try the ikebukuro location and see if there are more girls available to talk to. [/quote]

[quote=llewelyn;1147081]lolitacomplex, i was hoping to pm you about your proposed trip to kirarara but it looks like you can't receive messages. is there any other way to get in touch with you about it so as not to clutter up the board?[/quote]see post #8169.[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?977-tokyo&p=1145649&viewfull=1#post1145649[/url]i'd like to go on a fri or sat night. though the girl i met last time wants to see me again, so drop me a line and we'll see from there.

I was wondering if any of the Japanese speakers here know what the Japanese for GFE is? I speak some Japanese and I'd like to improve my odds of getting what I am after! Of my recent experiences, I had a fantastic time and GFE at Excellent Club Danshaku in Yoshiwara (though it seems to be hit and miss as to whether I am allowed entry on any particular day). I've had pretty mediocre experiences at Kings club and another place whose name I didn't bother remembering. Both those times the women were too old and too business-like for my taste and despite insisting I brush my teeth, no DFK followed.

This place has moved again since last time I went. 6 months or so ago. There was a guy at the old location (see my last report on this establishment) who walked me to the new location. Girls seem to be the same as before. New location is on the website (basement of next building uphill from the building with Mos Burger and the Shibuya branch of Dubliners, on Dogenzaka). While walking to the new front desk location I asked the guy who business was. Not good was the answer. Seems they are saving money by sharing the front desk location with other businesses; there were 3 desks in all, Grimpeur was the middle one.Kasumi (my fave, thanks another poster on this board for recommending her) was not available so I chose Kaede (&12363; &12360; &12391; &21271; &37324. OK-looking but a slightly chubby butt and small breasts. Spoke no Engrish. Hotel is a better one but same price as the one they used to recommend. System as before, go to the hotel and get 90 mins for 2500 en, call the shop on the number they give you at the front desk of Grimpeur and inform them of the room number. Girl arrives 10 mins later or so. No cups in the room so if you are likely to want a drink, bring something from outside.Assisted shower, massage and body licking, AR (but only after I asked for it; don't think she was going to do it otherwise) , asked for "hon ban" (sex) but was refused. Plenty of ball-licking (which was great. Wonder how they make it feel so slippery, put oil in their mouth or something?) and finally BBBJ-CIM, if you paid the extra 2000 for "kou nai" ("inside mouth", &21475; &20869. At the time of choosing the girl. From other visits, I think hon-ban might be available with some girls, but it's the luck of the draw, not guaranteed. Every other time I've been there I got a card with the girls name on it and 1000 en discount, but not this time. Wonder if it's up to the girl, if she wants you as a customer in the future? Overall a good but not mind-blowing experience for the 21, 000 en I paid for 60 minutes, including hotel. Would wait for Kasumi (&12363; &12377; &12415. Next time I think. If anyone else has girl recommendations for this place, please share them! [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/top.php[/url]

I would maybe go with koibito rashii na sa-bisu (&24651; &20154; &12425; &12375; &12356; &12394; &12469; &12540; &12499; &12473; &65289; [QUOTE=Sakaki; 1147242]I was wondering if any of the Japanese speakers here know what the Japanese for GFE is? I speak some Japanese and I'd like to improve my odds of getting what I am after!

I've never been to a pink salon before, and it was something I really wanted to try, so I went for it tonight. But I wasn't content to just go to the well-known gaijin-friendly locations like Jan Jan or Hinomaru (not that there's anything wrong with those places). I wanted to see if I could get into a Japanese-only pink salon because, well, I really wanted to go to one that had 20-some-year-olds in sailor school uniforms.I chose the Gotanda location of Sekai ni Hitotsu Dake no Hana since I knew where Gotanda station is.[url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/main.php[/url]As I wrote in the Kansai forum, I'm of Asian descent, so I can pass myself off as Japanese, provided I don't speak too much and give myself away.The place is pretty easy to find. Get off at Gotanda station, take the east exit, walk past the taxi noriba, up the street past the Mos Burger, on the left side when the road forks, next door to Girls a Go Go.When I arrived, the doorman immediately let me in, no hesitation or questions asked. Right inside is the front desk and a wall of pics of the girls, each with a number. I was a little slow choosing, since there were so many girls to choose from, but none really stood out in the looks department. Not to say they were ugly, but rather they all looked like girl-next-door types. The guy at the front picked up on this and asked "Hajimete desu ka?" and I said yes. Whew! Still maintaining the illusion.I quickly chose number 10 on the board to allay any possible suspicions and move on. I was told it would be 9500 yen (7500 yen plus 2000 yen for choosing the girl). The guy asked me something but I didn't catch what it was, so I just nodded. He then sprayed my hands with a disinfectant and led me to a booth downstairs where I took off my coat and waited for the girl. (I was also asked what I wanted to drink, and I just said tea.) The girl was named Riro (don't bother checking the website; it's out of date). We exchanged names (I gave a fake Japanese name) and immediately went into action and started DFK. She looked like she was about 20-22. She had a cute face, but small tits and some baby fat around her midsection. But whatever minor shortcomings she might have had physically, she more than made up for with her service. She's one of the best french kissers I've ever experienced, and she knows how to use that tongue all over to please a man. I returned the favor right after. She was unshaved downstairs, but she was already wet by the time I went down there.Then of course the BBBJ and CIM, which I was expecting, but that didn't diminish my enjoyment of it. She really knew what she was doing down there. When I came, she continued to suck on me and used both her hands on my shaft and balls, as if trying to coax every drop out of me. It was mind-blowing.All in all, I enjoyed it a great deal. 9500 yen is a bit steep, but I felt it was worth it. Definitely an enjoyable GFE and I'd do it again if I had the time and inclination to sneak into another Japanese-only place.

[QUOTE=Sakaki;1147242]I was wondering if any of the Japanese speakers here know what the Japanese for GFE is? I speak some Japanese and I'd like to improve my odds of getting what I am after![/QUOTE]"Rabu-rabu", taken from the English "love-love" is used a lot by women in general, and will be understood by any of the service providers / shops. It's written in katakana.

sounds good. so this place is not gaijin-friendly? [quote=lolitacomplex; 1147877]i've never been to a pink salon before, and it was something i really wanted to try, so i went for it tonight. but i wasn't content to just go to the well-known gaijin-friendly locations like jan jan or hinomaru (not that there's anything wrong with those places). i wanted to see if i could get into a japanese-only pink salon because, well, i really wanted to go to one that had 20-some-year-olds in sailor school uniforms.i chose the gotanda location of sekai ni hitotsu dake no hana since i knew where gotanda station is.[url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/main.php[/url]as i wrote in the kansai forum, i'm of asian descent, so i can pass myself off as japanese, provided i don't speak too much and give myself away.the place is pretty easy to find. get off at gotanda station, take the east exit, walk past the taxi noriba, up the street past the mos burger, on the left side when the road forks, next door to girls a go go.when i arrived, the doorman immediately let me in, no hesitation or questions asked. right inside is the front desk and a wall of pics of the girls, each with a number. i was a little slow choosing, since there were so many girls to choose from, but none really stood out in the looks department. not to say they were ugly, but rather they all looked like girl-next-door types. the guy at the front picked up on this and asked "hajimete desu ka?" and i said yes. whew! still maintaining the illusion.i quickly chose number 10 on the board to allay any possible suspicions and move on. i was told it would be 9500 yen (7500 yen plus 2000 yen for choosing the girl). the guy asked me something but i didn't catch what it was, so i just nodded. he then sprayed my hands with a disinfectant and led me to a booth downstairs where i took off my coat and waited for the girl. (i was also asked what i wanted to drink, and i just said tea.) the girl was named riro (don't bother checking the website; it's out of date). we exchanged names (i gave a fake japanese name) and immediately went into action and started dfk. she looked like she was about 20-22. she had a cute face, but small tits and some baby fat around her midsection. but whatever minor shortcomings she might have had physically, she more than made up for with her service. she's one of the best french kissers i've ever experienced, and she knows how to use that tongue all over to please a man. i returned the favor right after. she was unshaved downstairs, but she was already wet by the time i went down there.then of course the bbbj and cim, which i was expecting, but that didn't diminish my enjoyment of it. she really knew what she was doing down there. when i came, she continued to suck on me and used both her hands on my shaft and balls, as if trying to coax every drop out of me. it was mind-blowing.all in all, i enjoyed it a great deal. 9500 yen is a bit steep, but i felt it was worth it. definitely an enjoyable gfe and i'd do it again if i had the time and inclination to sneak into another japanese-only place. [/quote]

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1144703]I found this Korean esute looking through an esute website.

[url]http://moemoe-miracle.com/top.html[/url]

They are located in Otsuka which is one station off of Ikebukuro on Yamanote. So more Northwest than west / southwest. It looks fairly promising from the website (200% satisfaction guarantee, guaranteed un photoshopped photos of the girls and low price) , but I have not been able to go yet. From the language on the website this should be an FS shop. I thought I would let you / everyone else know about it. Please let me know if you get a chance to check it out. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip, and sorry for the belated response; I don't have regular access to this site, for obvious reasons.

Just wanted to report on a recent trip I took with buddies to Uguisudani. We took the trek out to Uguisudani, and stopped at the first information establishment we saw, called "Ichioshimaru" (&19968; &25276; &12375; &20024; &65289; &12290; This information booth is actually legit, because all the information we got there checked out. I surfed the computers there, and found a Korean delivery health service called "Sinjin"- (&26032; &20154; &65289; &12290;

[url]www.sinjindh.com.[/url]

I called the service, and asked for Cocoa, who was available. Then I went to a love hotel nearby, and checked in. The girl arrived about 10 min. Late, but I was in a forgiving mood, because Cocoa is one of the hottest girls I have ever met.

She insisted on brushing my teeth and hers, and then we took a shower- very workmanlike, although she did pay attention to my little friend.

We got on the bed, and she slipped on a condom. Then she just laid there. I had to initiate everything, and we switched positions a couple of times, but no response from her. She did, however, have the wettest pussy I have ever felt.

Eventually I blew my load, and I tried to cuddle with her and have conversation, but she wasn't having any of it. I did manage to coax out of her the fact that she has only been working in the p4p business for about a week; maybe she will warm up to it eventually.

Finally got tired of trying to have a conversation with a dead fish, and we left the hotel.

Cocoa- looks: 9, attitude 4, service 3.

Would I repeat? Call me a sucker, but yes I would. If all the girls are as hot as Cocoa, then sooner or later I will find a hot AND friendly one.

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1148062]Thanks for the tip, and sorry for the belated response; I don't have regular access to this site, for obvious reasons.

[url]www.sinjindh.com.[/url]

I Would I repeat? Call me a sucker, but yes I would. If all the girls are as hot as Cocoa, then sooner or later I will find a hot AND friendly one. [/QUOTE]Well. Repeating when you get a service rated 3 is your choice.

Actually all girls shows quite a lot in the website, pretty bodies, cute faces but when it comes to video the face is never shown! Mumble. Mumble. Makes me think photos have a good degree of photoshopping that can not be replicated in the video.

Am I wrong?

Short version:What a letdown, but it wasn't the cafe's fault.Long version:So Llewelyn and myself hit up the Ikebukuro Kirara location at around 6pm earlier this evening. Llewelyn ended up leaving with this cute 25 year old, so hopefully he'll post a report on how things went with him.I kinda held back just to wingman for Llewelyn since it was his first time here. But after he left, I decided to chat up this 29 year old English teacher. What a disappointment she turned out to be.First off, believe it or not, I was NOT looking for sex. I was just looking to have some fun, maybe some drinking and / or karaoke, etc.Given those modest expectations, she was still a spectacular disappointment.Here's the info from her profile, so you guys know who to avoid if you happen to encounter her at the cafe.Name: Aya.Age: 29.Occupation: English teacher.There were about 8 girls at the cafe when we got there, aged 19 to 29. A few were quite cute. There were about 5 other guys in the men's area.Anyway, after Llewelyn made off with his catch, I decided to chat up the 29 year old. I chose to chat with her because, well, I hoped that she could speak some English (one should not assume an English teacher in Japan can actually speak it) and maintain at least a somewhat interesting conversation versus some flaky 19 year old whose hobby is shopping.She was pretty plain looking, but again, wasn't seeking sex, so I could overlook the appearance, since she could at least have a decent conversation in English. On her profile form she wrote she was into drinking and karaoke, and she confirmed during the course of our chat that she liked karaoke.So we decided to head out somewhere together. She wanted to have dinner, so we hit up a Chinese place. When I asked if she wanted anything to drink, she said she doesn't drink. WTF? She lied on her profile about that.Conversation was mildly interesting, but she didn't tell me anything about Japanese women or society that I didn't already know. After dinner, it was just after 9pm, still early, so I tried to see if she wanted to do some karaoke or something else, but she was like "Oh it's late and I have to catch the bus home blah blah blah." Then she wanted me to pay her the 3000 yen (huh? I don't recall doing that last time) so she could then go home.What a goddamn money grubber. I know most (or all) of those girls are there for money, or looking for someone to take them out for a night of free (for them) entertainment, but I expect the girl to at least make some kind of effort to have a good time. This was just goddamn lazy.Damage: 6000 + 3000 yen pickup fee to the cafe. 3000 yen for dinner, and 3000 yen to the girl. What a waste of time and money that was. For that money I could've gone to the pink salon I posted about yesterday. Twice.

as lolitacomplex mentioned in his report, we made plans to meet up at kirara cafe in ikebukuro this past saturday. took out a girl but no sex for me either. though i would have been happy to get laid, i went in with the mindset that i was doing this more for research than intending to score and that i wouldn't be disappointed if i didn't get anything. plus, i was tired out from a busy friday night so my enthusiasm wasn't particularly high.

right, now that i've gotten the excuses for why i didn't get laid out of the way, here are the details. *cough*

i arrived at the cafe at 6 pm and got in without any problems (as i've mentioned in the past, i'm white but i can speak a little bit of japanese). the counter guy explained the system, which consisted of a one-time ?1000 membership fee and two options for payment. the first was a flat ?6000 which i understood allowed me to talk to as many girls as i wanted and come and go from the shop as many times with as many girls as i wanted from 10 am to 10 pm. the other one apparently involved fees for every girl i talked to and took out of the shop. i chose the ?6000 yen option for simplicity's sake and filled out the profile form with a bit of an assist from the counter guy. one important detail was a section stating how much i was willing to tip the girl, with the options of ?3000, ?5000 and another which i think indicated you were willing to pay more without getting into specifics on paper. i checked off ?3000, figuring i could adjust it during conversations.

the set-up was pretty much the same as you've probably read in other reports. there were only a couple of girls at first but it filled up quite a bit between 6 and 7. chose a 23 year old ol first, but she was obviously freaked out by my gaijin-ness so no dice. the same thing happened with the 19 year old student i chose next. wasn't particularly upset in either case, though i started to wonder if any of the girls there wouldn't be terrified of me. met lolitacomplex after talking to the second girl and we chatted a bit while looking over the available selection. all of a sudden, one of the staff members grabbed a girl's picture from the wall, the 25 year old lolitacomplex mentioned in his report, and suggested i try her. not sure whether this was something he did with other customers as well, or if he did it because he thought our english conversation was freaking out the japanese guys there and he wanted to politely put an end to it. i was considering talking to her anyway, so i opted to chat with her.

nana was cute, short and slim, and unlike the first two she wasn't disturbed by my being a foreigner. she even spoke a couple of english words here and there, and was eager to go to karaoke when i suggested it. she brought up the tip idea, however, asking for ?5000 though she had checked off ?3000 on her profile. in hindsight i should have negotiated it down, not so much for the concern about money but more out of principle. however, i agreed to it, and so after meeting her again outside and giving her the ?5000 we headed out.

nana and i chatted a bit more as she took me to a karaoke place she knew in sunshine city. we both ordered drinks and sang a bit, and she was friendly enough, but when i put my arm around her after a few songs she didn't seem responsive. at this point the conversation was starting to slow down, no doubt in part due to my limited japanese. also, as i mentioned before, i was pretty tired to begin with and could only manage so much enthusiasm. i suggested getting another drink, at which point she countered that our hour in karaoke was almost up and wondered if i wanted to extend the time. in my exhausted state i reckoned that sticking around longer would lead to increasing awkwardness, so without any serious expectation of success i suggested moving to somewhere more private."like a hotel?" nana asked, to which i agreed, and much as i expected she said that idea scared her. i blew it off nonchalantly and suggested she might want to meet up with her friends (whom she had mentioned earlier were around in ikebukuro somewhere) but not before we grabbed a quick bite from a street vendor. we then parted ways. it was about 8 at this point, so with what i had paid i could have gone back to kirara and tried my luck with another girl without any extra cost, but as i was so tired i decided to go home.

total damage: ?1000 membership fee + ?6000 for the shop + ?5000 to nana and around ?3500 for karaoke, drinks and food = ?15, 500.

conclusion: considering the price, not really worthwhile in my opinion. the cafe struck me as being similar to a hostess club, except the girls don't work for the business and you're spending time with them outside of the premises. i assume a lot of japanese guys go there to get a date without asking for sex. of course it's not like sex is out of the question; lolitacomplex hooked up in the shinjuku cafe, but i think it's significant that was after the girl picked him during the ladies' choice time. there was also at least one other report a while back of someone negotiating p4p action (though i assume not every girl is going to be up for that; i'd guess many probably just want free drinks, food and a few thousand yen). if you like the challenge of seduction, or even just want to hang with a j-girl with no expectations of sex, there are a number of other options which are considerably cheaper. i can see negotiating p4p being a thrill, though i imagine it wouldn't end up being much cheaper than what you'd pay for delivery. i might give it a try if i decide i need that extra kick, though i'll make sure to do it on a night when i'm more energetic.

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1148062]Thanks for the tip, and sorry for the belated response; I don't have regular access to this site, for obvious reasons.Just wanted to report on a recent trip I took with buddies to Uguisudani. We took the trek out to Uguisudani, and stopped at the first information establishment we saw, called "Ichioshimaru" (&19968; &25276; &12375; &20024; &65289; &12290; This information booth is actually legit, because all the information we got there checked out. I surfed the computers there, and found a Korean delivery health service called "Sinjin"- (&26032; &20154; &65289; &12290; [url]www.sinjindh.com.[/url]I called the service, and asked for Cocoa, who was available. Then I went to a love hotel nearby, and checked in. The girl arrived about 10 min. Late, but I was in a forgiving mood, because Cocoa is one of the hottest girls I have ever met.She insisted on brushing my teeth and hers, and then we took a shower- very workmanlike, although she did pay attention to my little friend.We got on the bed, and she slipped on a condom. Then she just laid there. I had to initiate everything, and we switched positions a couple of times, but no response from her. She did, however, have the wettest pussy I have ever felt.Eventually I blew my load, and I tried to cuddle with her and have conversation, but she wasn't having any of it. I did manage to coax out of her the fact that she has only been working in the p4p business for about a week; maybe she will warm up to it eventually.Finally got tired of trying to have a conversation with a dead fish, and we left the hotel.Cocoa- looks: 9, attitude 4, service 3.Would I repeat? Call me a sucker, but yes I would. If all the girls are as hot as Cocoa, then sooner or later I will find a hot AND friendly one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! Sounds like a good shop. Is it gaijin friendly? I assume the discussion was in Japanese, but what is your level? What was the total damage?

[quote=lolitacomplex; 1148235]short version:

what a letdown, but it wasn't the cafe's fault.

name: aya.

age: 29.

occupation: english teacher. [/quote]did she happen to say where she was from? i happen to know an aya who is an english teacher and is close to 29 and a bit average looking who also likes karaoke and doesn't drink. but she doesn't live in tokyo. seems a bit too coincidental.

[QUOTE=Dagamaard;1148042]Sounds good. So this place is not gaijin-friendly?[/QUOTE]All prior reports indicate that they are not gaijin-friendly. I didn't see such a sign out front, but then again I was rather preoccupied with just BSing my way inside.If you look Japanese and can understand them, you can just answer yes or no their questions and get in. And know numbers so you can pick a girl.

[QUOTE=Flyingp;1148698]Did she happen to say where she was from? I happen to know an Aya who is an English teacher and is close to 29 and a bit average looking who also likes karaoke and doesn't drink. But she doesn't live in Tokyo. Seems a bit too coincidental.[/QUOTE]She said she was from Ishikawa, in Kansai. I hope I remembered the name right, but definitely from Kansai.

Hey guys; I've been lurking in these boards for a long time, and its from here that I have tried all of the mongering instatutions that I have tried. But my friends, I feel at a loss.Two times since I arrived at japan, I have tried p4p and both times were disatrous. The first was with asian mystique, as alot of people suggested that the big three (AM, ND, CB) were all good for english speakers trying to monger with minimal language skills. That turned out to be a disaster, as I choose Rio, who as nice as she was, was scratched and scarred on her body, and overall looked way off. I couldn't get past this through the whole session, and at the end, I felt empty, like I had wasted my money.The second time I went to Kings club, from reccomendations I saw on here. I did not make an appointment though, and even thought the free ride, kindness of the people, and overall enviroment was good, the girl I got was larger than I had expected, and a bit robotic. It was very hard to enjoy the latter part of the soapy experence due to her wieght. She was a very nice girl, and I don't have overly high expectations, but that was dissapointing.My budget is 60, 000 yen, and my japanese skills are minor. Enought generally to get from point A, to B, but not conversational yet. Working on it though. Also something oreinteted to mornings would be nice, as I work nights, but I would take a night off work for this last good run.So here I am, at a conundrum. I feel as though I should hang up the towel and call my mongering days to a end in Japan, but I want to give it one more shot, cause well, japanese women are hot. So I come to you with this. Reccomend me a place of your opionion (Or girl from a place that I've been) so that my confidence in japanese P4p is what I was always told before being stationed out here. I'm asking if there is any girl out there you think, that has the skills to pay the bills to restore my faith. I understand I don't have a post count here yet. But after weighing what options are put forth here, My plan is to do a detailed write up of my experience and share with you all. I very much hope you could please find the time to respond with your reccomendations. Thank you for reading.PS: I've heard good things about Minami from TMK and Erena From Kings club.

Well for my second outing, I have decided to visit Champs. I had a good experience last month at NYNY so I wanted to compare. The Gentleman at the entrance speaks a bit of English and was very friendly. He asked me what kind of lady I like. I told him that I will let him choose.After a few minutes looking at the girls book in the waiting room (same pictures as the website nothing more) I was presented with Airi. Nice enough young lady, very polite. A bit Chubby but I understand that it is the kind of lady I have to expect in these establishments.Went up the stairs to a room with a window, it was nice to get some natural light. She took some times to prepares everything and then proceeded to take my clothes off. I had to help her a bit. Then same ritual as in NYNY bath, body wash, teeth wash. Then onto the bed. I was facing down as I did in NYNY, but she told me to turn around to get to business straight away. Fair enough, she spent a couple of minutes on my upper body with an avoiding FK. Maybe she is not into this. Then went down on my best friend. Deep throat was enjoyable but she was keen to get the job done rather quickly. CIM twenty minutes into the session (I may have been overloaded) not much touching either. It was a bit of a disappointment as I could get this done at home for free, I was expecting a bit more time control from her. Then, I had a short back massage and was back out on the street within thirty five minutes.I have to say that Megumi in NYNY, has done such a good job on me last time that it may be difficult for others to top it.I guess ill go to NYNY again next time, or maybe try a 3P at the Purple King esute. Anyone tried it before? Does it worth it?

[QUOTE=Exgeo; 1147705]asked for "hon ban" (sex) but was refused.[url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/top.php[/url][/QUOTE]Erm, a few words on manners might be in order here. FS is decidedly NOT on the menu at places like Grimpeur / 5A and asking for it in so many words is definitely not considered cool. (Indeed, asking for honban is at the very top of the "Don't" list promptly on display at all such places and on their websites.) The reasons are many: FS is technically illegal, whereas the other services provided are not; the girls may claim that they are not prostitutes, since they are not really having sex, and this in turn means that such shops can attract younger and cuter girls; married men can claim that they are not unfaithful to their wives, since they are not really having sex, etc. In either case, there is a clear line to be crossed. Anyway, never go to these places expecting FS. Just enjoy their other services! Asking for FS may turn the girl off, and if you are too obnoxious about it (I am not saying that you were, Exgeo) , she might report it to the shop and you may get banned. Even worse, it could even affect the chances of other gaijin getting in.Now, I'm not saying that FS never happens, just that it's quite rare (less than 10% in my rather extensive experience). Certain girls may do it, but most girls definitely won't. If the girl is in that sort of mood and she likes you, one thing may lead to the other, but you should ALWAYS let the girl take the initiative. Also, if you get lucky, try to be discreet about it. The fact that she did it with you doesn't mean she will do it with the next guy. Another thing is that these shops operate in a legal grey zone and don't want to attract attention to themselves by public announcements that they are offering illegal services.There are OTHER places that confusingly also advertise as "delivery health" shops, where FS is very much on offer. For the unitiated it may be difficult to tell them apart, but the FS places have a totally different pricing structure (eg. 35K for 90 minutes) and they don't have any reception counters, just a phone number. The telltale sign is that the girls will cover their eyes with their hand in the pictures, whereas in the non-FS shops the faces will usually be blurred.

[QUOTE=Sakaki;1147242]I was wondering if any of the Japanese speakers here know what the Japanese for GFE is?[/QUOTE] ICHA-ICHA means affectionate hugging and kissing etc.KOIBITO-PUREI means boyfriend / girlfriend play

[QUOTE=Porklobster]less than 10% in my ... experience[/QUOTE]YMMV depending on the type of shop, the specific shop, the specific girl, the era, the economy, the particular situation, and yourself. 10% is low. In my experience AT GRIMPEUR / 5A HEADS I have always gotten FS. 6 out of 6. I was probably a bit lucky, but generally I would say if you are not batting over 50% at Grimpeur then the issue may be with yourself (eg grooming, attitude, approach, etc.). Making your desire for FS known is sometimes the only way to find out if it's available and IT'S YOUR MONEY so there's no shame in doing so, but always remember that FS is not a foregone conclusion and if you are turned down just suck it up, grin and enjoy the rest of the service.

ES

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner; 1149660]YMMV depending on the type of shop, the specific shop, the specific girl, the era, the economy, the particular situation, and yourself. 10% is low. In my experience AT GRIMPEUR / 5A HEADS I have always gotten FS. 6 out of 6. I was probably a bit lucky, but generally I would say if you are not batting over 50% at Grimpeur then the issue may be with yourself (eg grooming, attitude, approach, etc.). Making your desire for FS known is sometimes the only way to find out if it's available and IT'S YOUR MONEY so there's no shame in doing so, but always remember that FS is not a foregone conclusion.ES[/QUOTE]Put it down to my approach if you like, but as I said, I never really ask because I know that you're not supposed to. Then again, I quite enjoy the regular services, without having to fiddle with rubbers and things. 10% is an average over a wide range of health-type shops and girls over 20 years. If I want FS, I go elsewhere. I haven't been to Grimpeur in quite a while, so maybe things are different there now.What I was trying to say is that I think it's a bad idea to suggest that you have some sort of right to expect FS at health places. If you can get away with it, good for you, but it certainly isn't the rule. And bending the rules is a major reason why so many shops ban foreigners altogether.Look at it this way: if a girl is going to offer extracurricular FS to everybody, she would earn a lot more working for a shop where FS is on the menu to begin with.

[QUOTE=Porklobster;1149415]There are OTHER places that confusingly also advertise as "delivery health" shops, where FS is very much on offer. For the unitiated it may be difficult to tell them apart, but the FS places have a totally different pricing structure (eg. 35K for 90 minutes) and they don't have any reception counters, just a phone number. The telltale sign is that the girls will cover their eyes with their hand in the pictures, whereas in the non-FS shops the faces will usually be blurred.[/QUOTE]These are often listed under "high class or premium", but admittedly it can be tough to know, as all you have to go on is the price.

[QUOTE=SgtKreoss; 1149400]Hey guys;

I've been lurking in these boards for a long time, and its from here that I have tried all of the mongering instatutions that I have tried. But my friends, I feel at a loss.

Two times since I arrived at japan, I have tried p4p and both times were disatrous. The first was with asian mystique, as alot of people suggested that the big three (AM, ND, CB) were all good for english speakers trying to monger with minimal language skills. That turned out to be a disaster, as I choose Rio, who as nice as she was, was scratched and scarred on her body, and overall looked way off. I couldn't get past this through the whole session, and at the end, I felt empty, like I had wasted my money.

The second time I went to Kings club, from reccomendations I saw on here. I did not make an appointment though, and even thought the free ride, kindness of the people, and overall enviroment was good, the girl I got was larger than I had expected, and a bit robotic. It was very hard to enjoy the latter part of the soapy experence due to her wieght. She was a very nice girl, and I don't have overly high expectations, but that was dissapointing.

My budget is 60, 000 yen, and my japanese skills are minor. Enought generally to get from point A, to B, but not conversational yet. Working on it though. Also something oreinteted to mornings would be nice, as I work nights, but I would take a night off work for this last good run.

So here I am, at a conundrum. I feel as though I should hang up the towel and call my mongering days to a end in Japan, but I want to give it one more shot, cause well, japanese women are hot. So I come to you with this. Reccomend me a place of your opionion (Or girl from a place that I've been) so that my confidence in japanese P4p is what I was always told before being stationed out here. I'm asking if there is any girl out there you think, that has the skills to pay the bills to restore my faith. I understand I don't have a post count here yet. But after weighing what options are put forth here, My plan is to do a detailed write up of my experience and share with you all. I very much hope you could please find the time to respond with your reccomendations. Thank you for reading.

PS: I've heard good things about Minami from TMK and Erena From Kings club. [/QUOTE]I had Manami when she was still at AM, that goes back probably 3-4 years back. She was, then, fantastic. Whether she still is today, I don't know. I fear that she may be a bit worn out, now that she works for herself.

Had Erena at king's club recently. Good body, as advertised, good service, nice and friendly; you have to ask for the mattress soapy play if you want it, otherwise she will skip it. Her english slightly less good than my japanese, which means not much, so we had basic conversation in Japanese. One caveat:face is very ordinary, so that can put some off.

One thing crossed my mind: some girls have their faces blurred on websites, and some not. Initially I thought it was because some wanted to preserve their privacy. But I am now convinced that it is the shop which decides, and blurrs those whose face is not so great. So, when choosing on the website, pick up only girls with clear faces. Or ask to see her before commiting.

[QUOTE=Porklobster; 1149415]Erm, a few words on manners might be in order here. FS is decidedly NOT on the menu at places like Grimpeur / 5A and asking for it in so many words is definitely not considered cool. (Indeed, asking for honban is at the very top of the "Don't" list promptly on display at all such places and on their websites.) The reasons are many: FS is technically illegal, whereas the other services provided are not; the girls may claim that they are not prostitutes, since they are not really having sex, and this in turn means that such shops can attract younger and cuter girls; married men can claim that they are not unfaithful to their wives, since they are not really having sex, etc. In either case, there is a clear line to be crossed. Anyway, never go to these places expecting FS. Just enjoy their other services! Asking for FS may turn the girl off, and if you are too obnoxious about it (I am not saying that you were, Exgeo) , she might report it to the shop and you may get banned. Even worse, it could even affect the chances of other gaijin getting in.

Now, I'm not saying that FS never happens, just that it's quite rare (less than 10% in my rather extensive experience). Certain girls may do it, but most girls definitely won't. If the girl is in that sort of mood and she likes you, one thing may lead to the other, but you should ALWAYS let the girl take the initiative. Also, if you get lucky, try to be discreet about it. The fact that she did it with you doesn't mean she will do it with the next guy. Another thing is that these shops operate in a legal grey zone and don't want to attract attention to themselves by public announcements that they are offering illegal services.

There are OTHER places that confusingly also advertise as "delivery health" shops, where FS is very much on offer. For the unitiated it may be difficult to tell them apart, but the FS places have a totally different pricing structure (eg. 35K for 90 minutes) and they don't have any reception counters, just a phone number. The telltale sign is that the girls will cover their eyes with their hand in the pictures, whereas in the non-FS shops the faces will usually be blurred. [/QUOTE]To all this, which is very true, I would jut add that you can expect FS at AM and in any soapland in Yoshiwara.

[QUOTE=Porklobster;1149691]10% is an average over a wide range of health-type shops and girls[/QUOTE]And 100% is an average for Grimpeur girls at the Grimpeur shop, which is the specific situation we are talking about, so it's arguably a more relevant number. Like another poster said, AM's price includes FS. On the other end of the spectrum, at some Chinese esute places your chance is basically zero. Grimpeur is a relatively high-percentage shop, so it pays to confirm with each individual girl what's on her dance card if you are after something specific.

By the way, I've been here 15 years and even the locals know that to say you're "not supposed" to ask for FS is nonsense. But if you don't ask your percentage is going to suffer, so that's going to help explain the 10 percent. To say, as I think we both are, that it depends and YMMV and yada yada is fine. To advise newbies not to bother asking is to recommend that they throw their money away.

ES

Hello guys,Has anyone met her?Is she a GFE?I need review please!

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner; 1149847]And 100% is an average for Grimpeur girls at the Grimpeur shop, which is the specific situation we are talking about, so it's arguably a more relevant number. Like another poster said, AM's price includes FS. On the other end of the spectrum, at some Chinese esute places your chance is basically zero. Grimpeur is a relatively high-percentage shop, so it pays to confirm with each individual girl what's on her dance card if you are after something specific.

By the way, I've been here 15 years and even the locals know that to say you're "not supposed" to ask for FS is nonsense. But if you don't ask your percentage is going to suffer, so that's going to help explain the 10 percent. To say, as I think we both are, that it depends and YMMV and yada yada is fine. To advise newbies not to bother asking is to recommend that they throw their money away.

ES[/QUOTE]I agree that if you don't ask, you are unlikely to get.

I guess the comment was more about "how" to ask, rather than wether to ask. If the guy just say" honban?" at the beginning, with no other word, that may be rough. But yes, during the course of the action, if things are going smoothly, to slowly nicely ask the question may be fine, and more importantly, acceptingt a "no" answer with a smile.

Actually, while at King's club, during play, I started to massge the backdoor of my girl. Then I gently ask whether there was a possiblity to go further. She said "iie", and that was it. No harm done.

I was trolling around in the Erolin homepage the other day and came across the link for the deli health provider 'Elf' in Shibuya, so decided to give them a try.I got myself to Shibuya and gave them a call (the number is on their homepage link). The guy on the phone was pleasant and helpful, though spoke only Japanese. He confirmed foreigners are OK if they can speak some Japanese, and asked me where I was. I told him I was on Dogenzaka, just in front of Royal Host, so he told me to wait a minute and he would come to meet me.Sure enough one minute later, he met me on the street and brought me up to their office-second floor of the colorful pink 'Baby Doll' building on the corner of Dogenzaka and the narrow pedestrian path leading toward Center Gai-the entrance is on Dogenzaka.In the office I 'registered' (fake name of course) , was given a members card and asked about my 'course' preference. Interestingly, though their homepage lists a 40 min option for ?10000, his price list did not offer that-the cheapest course they have is 50 mins for ?14000, with the hotel fee extra. I chose the 50 min course, told him to please give me a slim gal, paid, and then he escorted me to the love hotel around the corner-90 mins for ?2500, which means the total cost was ?16, 500.Got to my room and waited around 15 mins for the gal to show up-Aoi is her name and she is the first gal listed on their home page-her pic definitely matches her real life looks. Cute face, with a nice petite body.As for her service. Hmmm, a bit strange. She was very sweet and gentle, but quiet, and very slow in her movements and responses. She immediately began undressing me, then to my surprise, with me in the buff but her still fully-clothed, she told me to get on the bed, which I did. I asked her about a shower and she just smiled and said 'ato de'. Then she knelt beside me on the bed and started stroking my chest quite tenderly, at which point I asked her if she was going to take her clothes off. Once again, she just smiled and then removed all her clothing. Hmmm...Then she more or less got to work. Though once again, in her rather slow, oddly deliberate way. Three gentle but quick kisses on the mouth, then she slowly worked her way down to my nether regions. On route she coo'd a few times 'kimochi ii? '. However, whenever I began touching her breasts or stroking her inner thighs, she deliberately angled herself out of my reach. She seemed to want all of the touching and stroking to be one way, which in my experience is not the usual deli health modus operendi. Stange! I didn't press the matter, especially when she started licking my nuts and delectably rimming me with her tongue. Then she brought out the lotion and lathered me up while she squatted on top of me for the Sumata finale. Once again, she angled herself away from me, just out of my reach of her breasts. Nonetheless, it didn't take long for me to explode, after which she asked 'kimochi yokatta? ', cleaned me up and then curled up beside me resting her head on my shoulder. We chatted like that for about 10 mins, during which I was surprised to learn that she has been working there for over a year. I somehow thought that maybe her reticence to be touched was due to her having been a newbie at the job.A bit strangely also, given her determination for me not to be pleasuring her at all. She asked me what I was doing after our session, was I busy, and would I like to extend the session with her. I told her I couldn't as I was busy, but maybe next time. At that point we both showered (separately, which again seemed to deviate from the normal deliheath MO). We got dressed, she gave me her card, having written the usual 'please come see me again', offered me a sweet little hug and we left.All in all, a rather 'different' deli health experience, not exactly unsatisfying, but a speck frustrating as one normally expects a more mutually 'hands on' exchange. However, the shop itself seems user friendly, reasonably priced (same as Grimpeur) , and conveniently situated. I'll probably try them again-and ask for a different gal.Manta Ray

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1150398]I asked her about a shower and she just smiled and said 'ato de'.

:

Rimming me with her tongue. [/QUOTE] (@. @)

Wow

I decided to give King's club a try. Since I have a 50-50 FS ratio at Grimpeur (which apparently is pretty bad) , I went for the soapland experience, for the first time.I called around 6, and asked if it's possible to schedule an appointment today around 8. All English, no problem, I was told to call back from South exit of Uguisudani station. Though we were late (I went with a buddy) as Yamanote was stopping for 2-3 minutes in every station, for some reason. I called again and let them know we were going to be late. We waited for quite awhile to be picked up from the station, but tbh I didn't quite understand how long he said it will take. Also, the delay might have something to do with the cops extensively checking some driver right in front of the station (their presence, usually really discrete, was pretty obvious. 2 cars, directing traffic, lights on) , though other businesses seemed undisturbed, with girls being dropped off at the station, and guys being picked up.We got to the club, not too much talking. The old guy who guided us was talking to us in basic Japanese. (ko-su, sabisu, oppai). There was a younger guy who welcomed us in English at the entrance, I assumed he's the manager, and the guy to whom we spoke on the phone. We opted for the 80min course, payed 27, 000 each. Chose the girls: I chose Mimi, for being skinny, and my buddy went for &12415; &12427; &12367; (big boobs). Pictures were not blurred there. I thought we will have to pay nomination fee, but we didn't.My gal was nice, skinny, above average face, but front teeth were showing signs of rot. Occasionally you could see huge metallic fillings in her mouth (maybe whole teeth). Mouth was a turn ff, but the body was great. Small tits, but that's ok for me. Was surprised to see that she had a huge dragon tattoo on her side. From her hip to her armpit. My nihongo is basic, maybe JLPT 4kyu (on the new 5 lvl scale) , so I could handle some conversation. Her English seemed extremely limited, on some occasions when I didn't understand Japanese words she could not help at all in English.Nice gal, talked about my favorite Japanese dishes, the earthquake and whatnot. Also told her this is my first time, and I probably looked nervous, which in retrospect was probably not a great idea. My buddy though doesn't speak any Japanese at all, and his girl didn't speak any English, but he says that wasn't a problem at all. So extensive washing, the chair, tub, tub BBBJ, then mat play. Mat play was awesome. Can't describe it, but I loved it. Really great. Shy kisses at the beginning, but DFK was ok. As soon as I grabbed for her rear parts, she said "ok, wait" and then put a cover with her mouth, and off we go. She was really tight, I was really hard, and I came after only a couple of minutes. She was really careful about moving on the slippery mat, and she controlled everything. I was really hoping for a second, that never happened. Maybe I should have asked for it. So far everything was great, but this was a pretty big turn off. Unfortunately I had no idea what time we got in, so I wasn't sure how much we have left, and kept waiting for a second FS, and was too shy to ask. We must have chatted for 25 mins on the bed, after which she dressed me up, and out the door I went.If there were a second FS, I'd rate this 9 out of 10.Will repeat: not sure.

Had an appointment with Satsuki from AM a few nights ago.A couple previous reports complained that she had a strong smell or garlic breath or something along those lines. I didn't notice any bad smell, and I was meeting her at 8pm; she had come directly from work I guessed, since she was still wearing her black blazer / black skirt / white blouse that all Japanese female office workers wear. Which I find really hot. AM needs to add that to their lineup of available costumes, because their current OL option looks terrible.Her face is not what I would consider hot or beautiful, but she's not ugly either. I'd place her more along the lines of typical Japanese schoolgirl, which worked for me because I'd opted for the schoolgirl uniform option.She has a nice, petite body. Her tits are small, but very pretty; they don't have to be huge to look good, as overall proportions count more than sheer cup size, and she has a nice, tight body overall.With her petite body, schoolgirl face, and uniform option, I almost felt like I was committing statutory! Her service level was great. She's not the best lay I've ever had, but definitely no slouch either. BBBJ of course (I don't like covered) and she let me finger her pretty good. She writhed and convulsed quite a bit and I thought I was going to lose a finger. She had a nice pussy which I enjoyed eating out. She's mostly unshaved it seemed, but I had easy enough access to the goods downstairs.Overall I felt I got my money's worth with her, and she's definitely on my repeat list.

Went there about a week ago after I saw this post. Honest speaking, it wasn't so satisfy as I thought. I speak some Chinese so I got to talk with one of the girl I choose. Currently, there are only three girls are working right now, two during day time, plus the Sayuri. They all came from shanghai and all married to japanese guys. Only here for some extra bucks. So I won't recommand anyone who has a high expectation but to who just want some cheap quicky.[QUOTE=Dlbtmail; 1144327]Thank you for the detailed directions. It was very easy to find. I got there and the papa-san asked me if I was new and kind of gave me the once-over to see if I was alright, but apparently he was a bit weary of my presence there since I was a newcomer to this place. They have it on their website that you should call to get directions if it is your first time.They still have the 70 minute 8500 yen special going and I chose that one. For the price you get 2 pops. He explained to me that the first time was by hand and the second time was "honban." I wanted to pick Mimi since her profile from the website looked nice and she's new, but the papa-san quickly flipped the page to Sayuri and insisted on her. I didn't want to argue.All in all a pretty good experience. I would go again, but next time I will ask for a different provider. Sayuri got the job done, but as said before, she seems a bit lazy. Anyone have any details on any of the other girls in this place? [/QUOTE]

[url]http://saranes.com/[/url]There is another one just couple blocks away. I read many great report about saranes couple month ago. And I had 3 sessions with three different girls from there. But I can't stand another chubby korean girl who can't speak japanese or english at all. They get the job done and with great attitude, I recommand NaNa. But can some one please tell me a nice shop with skinny korean girls within 20, 000 price range? PS, I am bit afraid of calling those korean deli since my japanese hasn't been that great.

[QUOTE=Smith Ed; 1151131][url]http://saranes.com/[/url]There is another one just couple blocks away. I read many great report about saranes couple month ago. And I had 3 sessions with three different girls from there. But I can't stand another chubby korean girl who can't speak japanese or english at all. They get the job done and with great attitude, I recommand NaNa. But can some one please tell me a nice shop with skinny korean girls within 20, 000 price range? PS, I am bit afraid of calling those korean deli since my japanese hasn't been that great.[/QUOTE]In my experience, it might be a little tough at the moment. I visit several of the Korean esutes listed on the forum, and after the earthquake, many of the younger providers were really scared (especially as the radiation scare was picking up). A lot of them went back to Korea or relocated to out west. Recently, at all of my usual haunts, the younger girls are on the internet pages, but the actual ladies working there are older, usually not even listed on the websites. Any one else experiencing the same?

[QUOTE=Smith Ed; 1151131][url]http://saranes.com/[/url]

There is another one just couple blocks away. I read many great report about saranes couple month ago. And I had 3 sessions with three different girls from there. But I can't stand another chubby korean girl who can't speak japanese or english at all. They get the job done and with great attitude, I recommand NaNa. But can some one please tell me a nice shop with skinny korean girls within 20, 000 price range? PS, I am bit afraid of calling those korean deli since my japanese hasn't been that great. [/QUOTE]Girls do not seem to be short in the bumber equipment, do they?

Is it a place with (unstated) FS? Or usual oral services only?

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1151468]Girls do not seem to be short in the bumber equipment, do they? Is it a place with (unstated) FS? Or usual oral services only? [/QUOTE]I went there today and the process is like this.I went there for around 10pm and went to the building right outside the station *immediate right then first building to the left which should be lit up, you open and walk inside the brown double doors and there is a door entry system to the left.I pressed the buzzer for 402 but it wasnt working so I phoned the number and he said to just come to the other building which is, exit out of A4 go right, past the first street and past a couple other buildings, I can't remember the number so just phone the number on the saranes website &65296; &65299; &65293; &65301; &65304; &65296; &65305; &65293; &65299; &65300; &65302; &65301; .I guess sometimes the manager is in the same building with the girls and sometimes in the other building.My Japanese is terrible but we somehow came to an agreement that he would pick me up from the station.So he picked me up and took me up into the building.Its a bunch of rooms basically and a common shower area.You go in and pay the guy after asking for whichever service. I chose A.So you get a room with a girl and then you undress, put a towel on, girl leads you to the shower room asks you to brush your teeth using their disposable toothbrushes, she washes you *she is fully clothed still at this point.After washing she takes you back to the room and lays you down.She gets naked and gets on top and does some very quick massage then wet kissing everywhere.Then she goes for the BBBJ.Ashamed to say but I came really quickly *just from the BJ! Stupid. Shows how long since I've had sex.However I don't make a noise or any movements so I came in her mouth! LOL she laughed but said I am not meant to do that.She asked if I were still ok and I said yeah.Then she put on a condom and started to ride me for a bit *so full sex if thats what you are asking, and made me hold her breasts and whatever but I was done really and she said its muri (impossible) and then asked me if its ok to massage me.I said yes and she proceeded to massage me till my time was up.She then showered me again.I was serviced by [url]http://www.saranes.com/profile.php?id=31[/url]. A little old looking *definitely not 23. Got to be at least 30, chubby belly but not off putting and nice breasts.She had kind of a disgruntled attitude to begin with but I think it was because it was late and she probably serviced people all day but her attitude changed quickly and we had giggles. She spoke Japanese actually. Not amazing Japanese but I think better than mine! Sucks that I can cum through a front BJ! That never used to happen to me. Sheesh maybe hitting these working girls before nampa other girls is a good idea. Build up some sorta stamina.Ill go again. Choose a different girl for variety.Actually maybe I should hit the cheap BJ places instead. Again to build up stamina, does anyone know of any of those BJ bars? Where they give you it under the table? I want to go to one of them, and I also want to go to another BJ place and get two women. If they go for like 3000 yen then 2 women will be cheaper than Saranes LOL

[QUOTE=Masquerade69; 1151829]I went there today and the process is like this.

I went there for around 10pm and went to the building right outside the station *immediate right then first building to the left which should be lit up, you open and walk inside the brown double doors and there is a door entry system to the left.

I pressed the buzzer for 402 but it wasnt working so I phoned the number and he said to just come to the other building which is, exit out of A4 go right, past the first street and past a couple other buildings, I can't remember the number so just phone the number on the saranes website &65296; &65299; &65293; &65301; &65304; &65296; &65305; &65293; &65299; &65300; &65302; &65301; .

I guess sometimes the manager is in the same building with the girls and sometimes in the other building.

My Japanese is terrible but we somehow came to an agreement that he would pick me up from the station.

So he picked me up and took me up into the building.

Its a bunch of rooms basically and a common shower area.

You go in and pay the guy after asking for whichever service. I chose A.

So you get a room with a girl and then you undress, put a towel on, girl leads you to the shower room asks you to brush your teeth using their disposable toothbrushes, she washes you *she is fully clothed still at this point.

After washing she takes you back to the room and lays you down.

She gets naked and gets on top and does some very quick massage then wet kissing everywhere.

Then she goes for the BBBJ.

Ashamed to say but I came really quickly *just from the BJ! Stupid. Shows how long since I've had sex.

However I don't make a noise or any movements so I came in her mouth!

LOL she laughed but said I am not meant to do that.

She asked if I were still ok and I said yeah.

Then she put on a condom and started to ride me for a bit *so full sex if thats what you are asking, and made me hold her breasts and whatever but I was done really and she said its muri (impossible) and then asked me if its ok to massage me.

I said yes and she proceeded to massage me till my time was up.

She then showered me again.

I was serviced by.

[url]http://www.saranes.com/profile.php?id=31[/url]

A little old looking *definitely not 23. Got to be at least 30, chubby belly but not off putting and nice breasts.

She had kind of a disgruntled attitude to begin with but I think it was because it was late and she probably serviced people all day but her attitude changed quickly and we had giggles. She spoke Japanese actually. Not amazing Japanese but I think better than mine!

Sucks that I can cum through a front BJ! That never used to happen to me. Sheesh maybe hitting these working girls before nampa other girls is a good idea. Build up some sorta stamina.

Ill go again. Choose a different girl for variety.

Actually maybe I should hit the cheap BJ places instead. Again to build up stamina, does anyone know of any of those BJ bars? Where they give you it under the table? I want to go to one of them, and I also want to go to another BJ place and get two women. If they go for like 3000 yen then 2 women will be cheaper than Saranes LOL[/QUOTE]Thanks for this, very useful.

You say your japanese is terrible, but it seems that you can manage phoning. Not so terrible. Mine seems even less, do you think they will let me in anyway?

Regarding BJ bars, look back this thread and search for Hinomaru, Sugamo. In sugamo, there are some BJ bars which offer 2 pops. 2 girls. 30 minutes for 3000 yens."Vive la recession!" Disclaimer: I have not been to those joints, I preferred to stick to well reviewed places like JanJan.

I understand your problem though, it reminds my of good old days. As my grand father used to tell me when I was growing up: Men spend the first half of their sexual life trying to prevent their ejaculation, and the second half to get one. You must be in the first half, and, for sure, I am in the second.

They will let you in no problem! Just write some notes on paper on what to ask.Go to the brown doored building first which is GOTO SHIN OKACHIMACHI EXIT A4.At the ext if A4 turn immediately right.And go into the street to your right.It is the well lit building to the left.Go inside the brown double doors and walk up to the intercom system.Press 402.Say something like "onna ga hoshi kudasai" or politer "Onna ga irimasu" . Thats just saying I'd like a woman please haha relaly crude but they would understand.Or you can be more polit and just say "masagi ga irimasu" "masagi ga hoshi kudasai" Meaning I'd like a massage please If he is not at 402 *evening or something. Phone the number below on the website.He will say "moshi moshi"Again one of the phrases above "onna / masagi ga hoshi kudasai"He will mumble some crap about come to the other building on the 8th floor "hachi kai" but its not good if you don't know where the building is so.Say something like "watashi wa Shin Okachimachi A4 exit no mae". Meaning I am in front of Shin Okachimachi exit A4."sumimasen ga ano biru wa doku desu ka?" excuse me but where is the building."ano. Sumimasen A4 exit wo aimasho ka?" erm forgive me but can you meet me at the A4 exit please? Someone with better Japanese can correct me, but make it simple to understand and follow.He will take you to the building and to the 8th floor and sit you down in a room and ask which course you want say "A coursu kudasai" for A course which is 45 mins, shower, BBBJ, FS, shower, maybe if you are like me massage.Ohter options are on the website B course is an extra 15 mins, C course is 2 pops and you can also get two women too or more I am sure.There is a small poster of prices you can point at. All pretty straight forward.The girls will probably know enough japanese english to direct you and use sign language otherwise.Dozo (kind of a please or this way or do this please, this being whatever she is indicating like lie on bed) , Shower, Mae (front) , ushiro (turn around) , owari (finish) , daijyoubu? (are you ok?) , relax.Hehe seriously you do not need much! Thanks for the information on the BBBJ bars I will look into those! Maybe build up my stamina before going back to these FS places.[QUOTE=Dreams; 1151864]Thanks for this, very useful.You say your japanese is terrible, but it seems that you can manage phoning. Not so terrible. Mine seems even less, do you think they will let me in anyway? Regarding BJ bars, look back this thread and search for Hinomaru, Sugamo. In sugamo, there are some BJ bars which offer 2 pops. 2 girls. 30 minutes for 3000 yens."Vive la recession!" Disclaimer: I have not been to those joints, I preferred to stick to well reviewed places like JanJan.I understand your problem though, it reminds my of good old days. As my grand father used to tell me when I was growing up: Men spend the first half of their sexual life trying to prevent their ejaculation, and the second half to get one. You must be in the first half, and, for sure, I am in the second.[/QUOTE]

I have this fetishism, so I'd like to ask for your help.Been to hinomaru and so, but they're not busty enough.I need a girl that can make a perfect titjob, kinda like hitomi tanaka (I know thats too much, still you get the idea, really big tits).Do you guys have any idea where I can find something like that in Tokyo? Thank you in advanca.

Well, today I sent the old dragon on holidays to her family so I decided to get some more action on the pro side! I have been to NYNY and Champs, although these were good experiences and cheap I would not fall into some kind of routine. Therefore, I wanted to get to Kings Club. Well slightly disappointed. The website redirects you to the Fantasy page (same people as Kings Club I guess). I was planning to book a session for the following day as I wanted to get the 100 minutes course, but I could not resist spending an hour there. I got Nanako, very nice young lady, she made the whole experience enjoyable although I knew that matplay was on offer for 80 and over minutes courses (Am I right?) so I did not see any of it. But the rest was nice, gentle and properly timed.She undressed me, shower, she asked me to soap her too (good time to have a feel at these boobs of hers and nice bottom. Quick bath and a chat and then more action on the bed. BBBJ, good fingering session and a few nicely placed licks which made her enjoy herself (let me dream please!) then the old condom went on for some deeper action. It was superb, but we both ran out of steam before grand finale, therefore, she had to give me another BBBJ which ended with CIM. She is very much to my liking. We had a good chat with my broken Japanese skills but I guess it went ok. She was a bit surprised when we changed position, she wasn't expecting me to go for DATY. Quick surprise but she let me do it for a while. Delicious.So Fantasy is replacing Kings Club. All the staff has move there now. It is only a couple of street behind Kings club, not to far to walk.Good experience, I will go back there no problem.One thing I can tell you is that Yoshiwara was empty. I have been called in by at least ten people during my time there. I took a few minutes to talk nicely to most of them (hofefully, they will remember me) it seems that business is hard nowaydays.I got a couple of meishi from places so I can share them with you. These places called me in so I guess it is Gaijin friendly now.One is called Papillon, never heard about it before, but the gentleman at the entrance was friendly.[url]http://www.y-papillon.jp[/url]The other one is called santa monica? [url]http://www.santa-wa2.com[/url]I hope this will extend our catalogue of places to go! Happy hunting

[QUOTE=Masquerade69; 1151983]They will let you in no problem! Just write some notes on paper on what to ask.Go to the brown doored building first which is GOTO SHIN OKACHIMACHI EXIT A4.At the ext if A4 turn immediately right.And go into the street to your right.It is the well lit building to the left.Go inside the brown double doors and walk up to the intercom system.Press 402.[/QUOTE]I frequent this place because Nana always makes every yen I spend there well worth it; so, I've chatted with the manager guy quite a bit. They no longer operate out of room 402 because it just cuts operating costs. This is partly why they changed their phone number. I think things have been slow, so they removed their foreigner tax, but the manager is still a little weary about customers who speak zero Japanese. He's a nice and understanding guy so if you act politely there will be no problems getting in. I've been told that it's okay to just go directly to the place, but it's always a better idea to phone in first to make sure you don't have to sit around and wait. Either way you need to phone the place if it's your first time. Just use the basic Japanese listed in the rest of the quoted post and it should be no problem.They seem to have some strange Golden Week thing going on with a "special guest." I haven't really made any inquiries into it, but if someone has tried the special guest I'd like to hear about it.

Taratata:

Nanako had caught my eye on the Kings Club web site and wondered if she was available for foreigners so glad to hear you had a good time. Was there a gaijin tax, the web site doesn't list it?

Ektelontt:

Thanks. I called in to Saran a couple of weeks ago and there was no answer at the 402 room as before. It wasn't until I got home and checked that I saw to call ahead.

[QUOTE=Japanguy; 1152486]Taratata: Nanako had caught my eye on the Kings Club web site and wondered if she was available for foreigners so glad to hear you had a good time. Was there a gaijin tax, the web site doesn't list it? [/QUOTE]Yes, there is a gaijin tax. 23k 60min / 27k 80/40k 100. If I remember correctly. I remember seeing Nanako on the website too and the movie. She seemed shy on these but in real life, she is great fun and very gentle. However, I wanted to get the 100min course for matplay. Next time I'm sure.

I visited Saranes today.I do not think I had quite as good of an experience as some other posters have had. I would describe this place by saying "You get what you pay for". If you absolutely must have guaranteed FS, then it is pretty cheap. However, the girls are average looking and the sex isn't great.As far as making contact. They no longer have the office in Apt 402. You just call the number on their website when you arrive at Exit A4 of Shin Okachimachi station. The manager then comes and picks you up and walks you to the building with the girls, which is less than half a block away. Speaking very simple Japanese will be enough. He will know that you are a foreigner, and will keep his answers slow and simple, so you can undersatnd.He offered me Bibi. I accepted because her photos looked good. I do not know if it is possible to request a particular girl.Bibi was obviously the same girl as in the pictures, but her photos do quite a bit to enhance her face and body. I took the A Course, but the process of showering took up at least 10 minutes of it. She got in the shower naked with me, but the purpose of the shower is just to disinfect you. It is NOT sexual at all. She also made me brush my teeth, but I do not think kissing is on the menu, so I wonder why.Then we went back to her room, where she gave me a massage for about 5 minutes (more like stroking and tickling than an actual massage). Then she gave me the briefest. 20 second BBBJ before she put the condom on and started riding me. After a few minutes, I got on top, and after another few minutes, I finished. On the plus side, she is quite flexible, and she was quite wet, even without lube. However, it was quite clear that she was just waiting for me to finish.She does not speak much English. I taught her the phrases "Please take off your clothes" and "Please put on your clothes", which I imagine she will find useful.Since it is so cheap and I do not like to pay unless I know I am going to get FS, I will probably go back, but will try a different girl.

I went to Fantasy again last night (2nd time this week) for my matplay session. I took the 80 minutes course. I only had choice for Sayako. I had my eyes on a more mature lady that was on display but they told me that Sayako is best. I found that a bit disappointing to pay that amount of money plus gaijin tax and not being able to choose the girl, but hey, that's life.This episode put behind me, Sayako is fun young lady too. I really enjoyed my time with her. She can speak English. The routine was the same as Nanako but this time she offered the matplay. I just wished I could have had more action when facing up but very enjoyable experience nonetheless. After that we went onto the bed for some more action. I laughed a bit when I caught her in the middle of a lengthy yawn. Must have been tired poor little thing.We finished the job with some time to spare, so we had a cuddle session during which I guess she fell asleep for a few minutes.All in all, I enjoyed myself. Both ladies Nanako and Sayako provided me with good service. I am glad I had my Yoshiwara experiences with them. However, I am into more mature ladies so maybe NYNY will see me again soon and maybe I need to get my freebies from somewhere.

[QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1152668]I visited Saranes today.I do not think I had quite as good of an experience as some other posters have had. I would describe this place by saying "You get what you pay for". If you absolutely must have guaranteed FS, then it is pretty cheap. However, the girls are average looking and the sex isn't great.As far as making contact. They no longer have the office in Apt 402. You just call the number on their website when you arrive at Exit A4 of Shin Okachimachi station. The manager then comes and picks you up and walks you to the building with the girls, which is less than half a block away. Speaking very simple Japanese will be enough. He will know that you are a foreigner, and will keep his answers slow and simple, so you can undersatnd.He offered me Bibi. I accepted because her photos looked good. I do not know if it is possible to request a particular girl.Bibi was obviously the same girl as in the pictures, but her photos do quite a bit to enhance her face and body. I took the A Course, but the process of showering took up at least 10 minutes of it. She got in the shower naked with me, but the purpose of the shower is just to disinfect you. It is NOT sexual at all. She also made me brush my teeth, but I do not think kissing is on the menu, so I wonder why.Then we went back to her room, where she gave me a massage for about 5 minutes (more like stroking and tickling than an actual massage). Then she gave me the briefest. 20 second BBBJ before she put the condom on and started riding me. After a few minutes, I got on top, and after another few minutes, I finished. On the plus side, she is quite flexible, and she was quite wet, even without lube. However, it was quite clear that she was just waiting for me to finish.She does not speak much English. I taught her the phrases "Please take off your clothes" and "Please put on your clothes", which I imagine she will find useful.Since it is so cheap and I do not like to pay unless I know I am going to get FS, I will probably go back, but will try a different girl.[/QUOTE]It is possible to pick a girl, as I pick Nana every time I go. There is an unlisted "shimei" fee for 1000 yen to pick a girl though. You can think of it as a tip because it goes directly to the girl if I remember correctly.I definitely receive better service than what you got, but I think it's because Nana is fairly comfortable with me now. In general I think service depends wildly based upon the girl's mood and the time you go. I always try to go earlier in the day because these girls are pretty worn out by night time.

[QUOTE=DelphyHawke; 1151990]I have this fetishism, so I'd like to ask for your help.Been to hinomaru and so, but they're not busty enough.I need a girl that can make a perfect titjob, kinda like hitomi tanaka (I know thats too much, still you get the idea, really big tits).Do you guys have any idea where I can find something like that in Tokyo? Thank you in advanca. [/QUOTE][url]Http://www.milkybaby.jp/[/url] They will never get any bigger than at this place!

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1151864]Regarding BJ bars, look back this thread and search for Hinomaru, Sugamo. In sugamo, there are some BJ bars which offer 2 pops. 2 girls. 30 minutes for 3000 yens."Vive la recession!" Disclaimer: I have not been to those joints, I preferred to stick to well reviewed places like JanJan.I understand your problem though, it reminds my of good old days. As my grand father used to tell me when I was growing up: Men spend the first half of their sexual life trying to prevent their ejaculation, and the second half to get one. You must be in the first half, and, for sure, I am in the second. [/QUOTE]Can anyone comment on the current situation at Jan-Jan regarding CIM? A few months ago, someone reported girls pulling out condoms. If this is the case, it might change my travel plans since ballwork and CIM were the selling points of Jan-Jan, and said services at Jan-Jan are one of the reasons for me stopping in Tokyo sometimes. I have so many wonderful memories of BBJwCIM, plus 69, etc in the place from 2009 and early 2010, but have not been to Tokyo for a year and realize that some things might have changed. The girls never, ever, mentioned the idea of a condom.Also, if anyone is interested in comparing notes on English speaking dominatrix services in Tokyo, please PM me. I won't talk about it here in the thread because I realized that the topic is taboo since my last post on the topic was not well received.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1152948]Can anyone comment on the current situation at Jan-Jan regarding CIM? A few months ago, someone reported girls pulling out condoms. If this is the case, it might change my travel plans since ballwork and CIM were the selling points of Jan-Jan, and said services at Jan-Jan are one of the reasons for me stopping in Tokyo sometimes. I have so many wonderful memories of BBJwCIM, plus 69, etc in the place from 2009 and early 2010, but have not been to Tokyo for a year and realize that some things might have changed. The girls never, ever, mentioned the idea of a condom.

Also, if anyone is interested in comparing notes on English speaking dominatrix services in Tokyo, please PM me. I won't talk about it here in the thread because I realized that the topic is taboo since my last post on the topic was not well received. [/QUOTE]Went to jan jan last January. Definitively BBBJ and CIM. Plus fingering etc. 69 also possible, but that strectches my back a bit too much. Never saw or heard about condoms in those places.

[QUOTE=DelphyHawke; 1151990]I have this fetishism, so I'd like to ask for your help.Been to hinomaru and so, but they're not busty enough.I need a girl that can make a perfect titjob, kinda like hitomi tanaka (I know thats too much, still you get the idea, really big tits).Do you guys have any idea where I can find something like that in Tokyo? Thank you in advanca. [/QUOTE]The place for big boobs is Cutie Bomb. You will need Japanese ability though.[url]www.1919ikebukuro.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1152896]It is possible to pick a girl, as I pick Nana every time I go. There is an unlisted "shimei" fee for 1000 yen to pick a girl though. You can think of it as a tip because it goes directly to the girl if I remember correctly.I definitely receive better service than what you got, but I think it's because Nana is fairly comfortable with me now. In general I think service depends wildly based upon the girl's mood and the time you go. I always try to go earlier in the day because these girls are pretty worn out by night time.[/QUOTE]Went there last Saturday. It happens in room 802 now. Had Bibi. Quite chubby. Her photos are "enhanced". FS as expected, but she didn't much of an effort and doesn't even pretend to enjoy doing her job.Anyway got the job done, for this price (9000) can't complain too much ill try again with another girl.Of note, there is a 3P course available (but rather priced expensively) , the rooms are quite large to allow for that kind of fun

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1152893]I went to Fantasy again last night (2nd time this week) for my matplay session. I took the 80 minutes course. I only had choice for Sayako. I had my eyes on a more mature lady that was on display but they told me that Sayako is best. I found that a bit disappointing to pay that amount of money plus gaijin tax and not being able to choose the girl, but hey, that's life.This episode put behind me, Sayako is fun young lady too. I really enjoyed my time with her. She can speak English. The routine was the same as Nanako but this time she offered the matplay. I just wished I could have had more action when facing up but very enjoyable experience nonetheless. After that we went onto the bed for some more action. I laughed a bit when I caught her in the middle of a lengthy yawn. Must have been tired poor little thing.We finished the job with some time to spare, so we had a cuddle session during which I guess she fell asleep for a few minutes.All in all, I enjoyed myself. Both ladies Nanako and Sayako provided me with good service. I am glad I had my Yoshiwara experiences with them. However, I am into more mature ladies so maybe NYNY will see me again soon and maybe I need to get my freebies from somewhere. [/QUOTE]Nanako is really gorgeous and professional. I just wish I was in better form on that day.Of note, if I am correct, the soapland is quite far from the station. Looks like Iriya (hibiya) is the nearest.They took me from Usuigudani, quite a drive. Had to share their cab with another client, and share the waiting room as well, and had to wait quite a bit in the waiting room to have them drive me to the station again.If they had this kind of soapland much easily located in shibuya shinjuku or wherever, that would be much better.Anyway when I have time, ill try again. I wonder if 3P or 2vs2 is possible in this place.

Has anyone tried this DH in Gotanda? [url]http://www.pink-hk.com/sys.html[/url]Price wise seems a very good deal! 14, 000 for 3P course! Girls pic look nice as well.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1152948]Can anyone comment on the current situation at Jan-Jan regarding CIM? A few months ago, someone reported girls pulling out condoms. If this is the case, it might change my travel plans since ballwork and CIM were the selling points of Jan-Jan, and said services at Jan-Jan are one of the reasons for me stopping in Tokyo sometimes. I have so many wonderful memories of BBJwCIM, plus 69, etc in the place from 2009 and early 2010, but have not been to Tokyo for a year and realize that some things might have changed. The girls never, ever, mentioned the idea of a condom.[/QUOTE]I was at Jan-Jan twice last week, with the normal CIM service. Doesn't seem to be any changes.

All,My recent trip to Saranes has gotten me more interested in Korean Delivery places. I have a few questions maybe some more experienced folks can help me with.A lot of Korean Delivery places seem to offer a "high-class" or "special service" course. The normal course is usually 20K for 80 minutes. The high class course is 30K for 80 minutes. What is included in the high class course? Is it worth paying for? Is DFK on the menu at Korean Delivery places? Are there any particular Korean Delivery places you would reccomend? If you type "Kankoku deriheru" in kana into google. Co. Jp, you get a ton of websites, but its hard to tell where might be good.Do you have to meet the girl at a love hotel in Uguisudani? Can they travel to elsewhere in Tokyo? Thanks.

Hey, I noticed that Nusty Dolls website was down. Are they still up and running?

I sure hope they're not closed down. They're more expensive than AM but more girls are always welcome. I sure like variety.

Hi Dagamaard, I had the very same question before. After digging through tons of websites and private discussion with my japanese co workers, the answer is no, not that much different.Regarding the high class, it means some of the girls are actually very very very hot, as you seen on the korean drama and KMTV. Special services just means they offer FS.DFK is pretty common on most of these establishments, also AF, cosplay and others.Most girls are willing to go to your place or any hotels within tokyo metro area, of course you have to pay the travel fees. But my experience is, you have to at least have good japanese commuication skills. The furthest I have gone is got one girl booked, but the owners thought I might not be a japanese so told me they have to cancel it. I guess mine still not at their required level.Has anyone here can write down some common phrases during a phone booking sessions? [QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1153885]All, My recent trip to Saranes has gotten me more interested in Korean Delivery places. I have a few questions maybe some more experienced folks can help me with.A lot of Korean Delivery places seem to offer a "high-class" or "special service" course. The normal course is usually 20K for 80 minutes. The high class course is 30K for 80 minutes. What is included in the high class course? Is it worth paying for? Is DFK on the menu at Korean Delivery places? Are there any particular Korean Delivery places you would reccomend? If you type "Kankoku deriheru" in kana into google. Co. Jp, you get a ton of websites, but its hard to tell where might be good.Do you have to meet the girl at a love hotel in Uguisudani? Can they travel to elsewhere in Tokyo? Thanks. [/QUOTE]

I found two websites can show some good locations, This one is for all the massage places around tokyo area.[url]http://www.hoan-hoan.com/[/url]Sarans and couple others in this forum are on there. But if there is any reports for the ones are not discussed before, please share with the rest of us.[url]http://www.korean-fuzoku.com/[/url][url]http://www.kdnavi.com/[/url][url]http://www.acefuzoku.com/[/url][url]http://www.vip-korean.com/top/index.html[/url]Are pretty much the same but I couldn't find anything has mentioned in this forum.[QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1153885]All, My recent trip to Saranes has gotten me more interested in Korean Delivery places. I have a few questions maybe some more experienced folks can help me with.A lot of Korean Delivery places seem to offer a "high-class" or "special service" course. The normal course is usually 20K for 80 minutes. The high class course is 30K for 80 minutes. What is included in the high class course? Is it worth paying for? Is DFK on the menu at Korean Delivery places? Are there any particular Korean Delivery places you would reccomend? If you type "Kankoku deriheru" in kana into google. Co. Jp, you get a ton of websites, but its hard to tell where might be good.Do you have to meet the girl at a love hotel in Uguisudani? Can they travel to elsewhere in Tokyo? Thanks. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1153885]All, My recent trip to Saranes has gotten me more interested in Korean Delivery places. I have a few questions maybe some more experienced folks can help me with.A lot of Korean Delivery places seem to offer a "high-class" or "special service" course. The normal course is usually 20K for 80 minutes. The high class course is 30K for 80 minutes. What is included in the high class course? Is it worth paying for? Is DFK on the menu at Korean Delivery places? Are there any particular Korean Delivery places you would reccomend? If you type "Kankoku deriheru" in kana into google. Co. Jp, you get a ton of websites, but its hard to tell where might be good.Do you have to meet the girl at a love hotel in Uguisudani? Can they travel to elsewhere in Tokyo? Thanks[/QUOTE]The only Korean delivery place I have tried is k-girls. Jp. The high class course for most places just means that the girl only has you for the day. That means she's not tired and will most likely put out her best because she does not have to meet any other clients later. I don't think it's worth it because some girls will provide the same service no matter what. Probably better to just book an earlier time to ensure the girl isn't worn out and save your money.I think you can book the girl for anywhere in the 23 wards of Tokyo for free, but it will take quite some time for them to get there and you have to mention it right away or they will just assume you'll be in and around Uguisudani. Usually you book a time, check into a love hotel, then call again to tell them your hotel and room number.I think pretty much anything considered "normal sexual activity" is on the menu. In my experience DFK is a given. The 80 minute course, believe it or not, is one shot only. You have to book 100 or more minutes if you want anything beyond that. The service you receive is definitely more GFE than saranes, if the girl is in a good mood and not exhausted, mostly because the girls can speak some Japanese, but if you can't speak much Japanese then you kind of miss out. The main thing you're paying for at a Korean Delivery place over an FS esute is the ability to go without rubber. The first time I went the girl jumped on me before I could say anything about using some rubber, and the second time the girl actually removed it halfway through and jumped back on. If you don't like taking that risk be sure to really say something about it.

I haven't been myself, but there have been reports from K-Girls ([url]http://www.k-girls.jp/[/url]) , which is a gaijin-friendly KHD. It's even listed on Erolin, so there shouldn't be any problems ordering there as long as you know enough Japanese for a simple reservation. Apparently the girls even look like their photos, which is seldom a given at those kind of places (probably still a little airbrushing going on, though).I was wondering myself, I see they offer FS in the high-class course, does that mean they definitely won't offer FS in the normal course?

[QUOTE=Zekelk; 1154020]I haven't been myself, but there have been reports from K-Girls (

[url]http://www.k-girls.jp/[/url]

) , which is a gaijin-friendly KHD. It's even listed on Erolin, so there shouldn't be any problems ordering there as long as you know enough Japanese for a simple reservation. Apparently the girls even look like their photos, which is seldom a given at those kind of places (probably still a little airbrushing going on, though).

I was wondering myself, I see they offer FS in the high-class course, does that mean they definitely won't offer FS in the normal course? [/QUOTE]Given that every girl had huge breasts, is 22, and beautiful, I find it really hard to believe these are real picts. Real picts usually have the same background for all the girls.

What makes you think high class includes FS? You may be right, but the regular prices are more in line with what FS at a KDH would be.

One nice offer is that repeat customers can get 50% on their birth month.

[QUOTE=Zekelk; 1154020]I haven't been myself, but there have been reports from K-Girls ([url]http://www.k-girls.jp/[/url]) , which is a gaijin-friendly KHD. It's even listed on Erolin, so there shouldn't be any problems ordering there as long as you know enough Japanese for a simple reservation. Apparently the girls even look like their photos, which is seldom a given at those kind of places (probably still a little airbrushing going on, though).I was wondering myself, I see they offer FS in the high-class course, does that mean they definitely won't offer FS in the normal course? [/QUOTE]K-Girls is gaijin friendly IF you speak Japanese. The Tencho and Mamma-san talked to me for awhile over the phone the first time I called them. When I was actually with the provider, she told me that it depends on the girl. Some of them are ok with gaijin and some aren't. You should definitely speak at least conversational Japanese.

Here is one theory, or what I have heard from sarans. Every korean girls who work in japan are on 3 month travel visa, recuited by different agents in korea. So all they need to provided was the photos taken from those special photo shops in korea, couple thousands yen. FS are always offered. But they don't want you to think that way because the popo will pay attention to them.[QUOTE=Lion; 1154251]Given that every girl had huge breasts, is 22, and beautiful, I find it really hard to believe these are real picts. Real picts usually have the same background for all the girls.What makes you think high class includes FS? You may be right, but the regular prices are more in line with what FS at a KDH would be.One nice offer is that repeat customers can get 50% on their birth month. [/QUOTE]

I used k-girls for the first time last week. Ordering in Japanese I firstly asked if it is possible for gaijin to place reservations. The lady then asked where I was from so I mentioned the name of that particular European country. I was then asked which girl I wanted. The girl I mentioned was unavailable at that time so I just said anyone from the kounyu section (the big breasted girls).Reservation made I then waited in the room, checking out the homepage on my keitai to check the photo of the girl who would shortly arrive at the room. She looked good, so I was quite expectant. The profile listed the age as 25 but in reality this was slightly difficult to determine. Possibly within a range of plus 5-10 years. Her face looked slightly old up close, but the body and skin was still firm.Perfunctory shower followed by the action. I was weak so didn't last long. The course featured DFK, BBBJ. That was as far as I got.One thing with the KDH vis a vis that of Japanese deri services, with Japanese I like to have a good chat with the girls. With this particular experience, the lady had only limited Japanese so it was rather difficult to have a good conversation.If you can read Japanese, this site has lots if detailed reviews of particular girls from KDH shops.[url]http://www.delirepo.com/[/url]In all, this was my first KDH but I'm likely to repeat either from this provider or others. I'm actually rather fed up of the hassle of dealing with Japanese suppliers.

[QUOTE=Lion;1154251]Given that every girl had huge breasts, is 22, and beautiful, I find it really hard to believe these are real picts. Real picts usually have the same background for all the girls.[/QUOTE]I don't have personal experience.The photos appear to be shot in love hotels and several features appear in different girls' shots eg.Star mirror.[url]http://k-girls.fu-admin.com/staffdetail_92.html[/url] (Photo 1)[url]http://k-girls.fu-admin.com/staffdetail_63.html[/url] (Photo 3)From what I've read on the K reports web sites it seems that the photos are airbrushed but the actual girl.

[QUOTE=Taratata;1152893]We finished the job with some time to spare...[/QUOTE]Taratara. Are all soapland sessions 1 shot only? Or can you get multiple shots within certain time limits? Thanks, Jo

Less than the 60 mins session is one shot. More then 60 mins can be multiple, as my personal experience.[QUOTE=Jojochachkins; 1154604]Taratara. Are all soapland sessions 1 shot only? Or can you get multiple shots within certain time limits? Thanks, Jo[/QUOTE]

I'm going to be stopping through Tokyo and was wondering if anyone has and links to some good "Health Delivery" places around Tokyo that deal with non-Japanese speakers. Any recommendations?

[QUOTE=Gman69;1154830]I'm going to be stopping through Tokyo and was wondering if anyone has and links to some good "Health Delivery" places around Tokyo that deal with non-Japanese speakers. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Nearly the whole forum is about that. So RTFF

Tried out the often mentioned Jan Jan in Sugamo this afternoon. Went in at about 2:30, so I was the only one in there. The tout waved me right down with a friendly "Irrashai"I'd better eat more carrots, because after paying the mama-san my 3000 yen and rounding the corner to the main floor, I was completely blind. Completely. The mama-san chuckled, and called out "over here!" and I had to blindly follow her voice to the booth facing the wall.After sitting down in my booth and waiting for some vision to return, she came back with a large plastic cup of iced barley tea. The sofa itself is suede, has a high back, and can probably seat 3 adults comfortably. There is also a suede seat cover that you actually sit on (and presumably they replace after each customer).After waiting for about a minute, a girl came by with a small tray of towels, and we had some chitchat. She was petite, slender shoulder length hair with about C. Cup breasts, and wore a schoolgirl outfit. Her face was not pretty by any means, and she had a raspy smoker's voice. I'd put her age around late 20s.We chatted for a bit (standard questions like first time here, the weather, etc.) and then she asked me to remove my pants. *She took off her panties and bra (leaving the schoolgirl skirt on) and began cleaning me with a towel. Whil she was doing that, I started to play with her breasts with my hand and mouth, all very gently. She seemed to like that as she turned herself on the sofa to face me better. This was going on for at least 3 minutes, and she started to heat up. She was getting wet as I very gently fingered her.All while this is happening, she was moaning and having a good time, but she isn't touching me at all! *Then, somewhat surprisingly, she climbs on top of me (again, without any attention to Peter) , and straddles me and starts rubbing her pussy on Peter while I continue working on her breasts.She kept her hand strategically placed to prevent insertion, and she was very wet, but I had the feeling she was more interested in getting herself off then me. Maybe for some guys, this is great, but for me, after the surprise thrill of it, the excitement was wearing off. It's strange to say it, but she seemed selfish.After she continued this way for a few minutes, I was wondering when the BJ would start. I eventually had to ask her for it, as she seemed to just want to slide against me and flirt with penetration for the whole session. I was frankly starting to get worried as there were a lot of fluids going on down there.She then started the BBBJ- her technique was very average, but could be great if she is coached, and positioned herself so I could continue to finger her, which she seemed to enjoy. It ended a couple of minutes later with a cim. She generously waited for every last drop, disengaged herself, offered me a towel, wiped Peter down, then spit out into another towel.She then excused herself, and after a couple of minutes returned for some small chat. Again, very kind and a little GF like. Then I said thanks, and she walked me to the door, and that was that.All in all, I think it was remarkably good for what only cost 3000 yen. I was surprised that in terms of touch, anything goes- absolutely anything goes. *In terms of the girl, it was a little frustrating for me, as I am used to doing all the 'hard work' in my regular relationship, but was hoping to be 'serviced' a bit more rather than being the driver.Would I go again? *Geez- for 3000 yen absolutely, if for no other reason to see what service from another girl would be like. But it wasn't quite what I was expecting

there is a gal who frequently advertises on craigslist (therapeutic services) , offering 'hawaiian lomi-lomi massage' for ?3000. just wondering if any of you have tried her service, and if so, how was it.

manta ray

[quote=manta ray; 1157556]there is a gal who frequently advertises on craigslist (therapeutic services) , offering 'hawaiian lomi-lomi massage' for ?3000. just wondering if any of you have tried her service, and if so, how was it.

manta ray[/quote]met her in a bar and bought her one drink then we went to a lh. she put on the smut channel but kept her clothes on. lame massage and hj. no extras.

tt

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1157595]Met her in a bar and bought her one drink then we went to a LH. She put on the smut channel but kept her clothes on. Lame massage and HJ. No extras.TT[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, TT. That is just about what I would have expected. With a drink, the LH fee and her ?3000, it would end up costing close to ?10,000. For that price, methinks I would do much better at Asian Feeling / Relax where the massage itself is usually quite proficient.MR

Hi there,Did the schoolgirl outfit have loose socks? [QUOTE=K1234K; 1155850]Tried out the often mentioned Jan Jan in Sugamo this afternoon. Went in at about 2:30, so I was the only one in there. The tout waved me right down with a friendly "Irrashai"I'd better eat more carrots, because after paying the mama-san my 3000 yen and rounding the corner to the main floor, I was completely blind. Completely. The mama-san chuckled, and called out "over here!" and I had to blindly follow her voice to the booth facing the wall.After sitting down in my booth and waiting for some vision to return, she came back with a large plastic cup of iced barley tea. The sofa itself is suede, has a high back, and can probably seat 3 adults comfortably. There is also a suede seat cover that you actually sit on (and presumably they replace after each customer).After waiting for about a minute, a girl came by with a small tray of towels, and we had some chitchat. She was petite, slender shoulder length hair with about C. Cup breasts, and wore a schoolgirl outfit. Her face was not pretty by any means, and she had a raspy smoker's voice. I'd put her age around late 20s.We chatted for a bit (standard questions like first time here, the weather, etc.) and then she asked me to remove my pants. *She took off her panties and bra (leaving the schoolgirl skirt on) and began cleaning me with a towel. Whil she was doing that, I started to play with her breasts with my hand and mouth, all very gently. She seemed to like that as she turned herself on the sofa to face me better. This was going on for at least 3 minutes, and she started to heat up. She was getting wet as I very gently fingered her.All while this is happening, she was moaning and having a good time, but she isn't touching me at all! *Then, somewhat surprisingly, she climbs on top of me (again, without any attention to Peter) , and straddles me and starts rubbing her pussy on Peter while I continue working on her breasts.She kept her hand strategically placed to prevent insertion, and she was very wet, but I had the feeling she was more interested in getting herself off then me. Maybe for some guys, this is great, but for me, after the surprise thrill of it, the excitement was wearing off. It's strange to say it, but she seemed selfish.After she continued this way for a few minutes, I was wondering when the BJ would start. I eventually had to ask her for it, as she seemed to just want to slide against me and flirt with penetration for the whole session. I was frankly starting to get worried as there were a lot of fluids going on down there.She then started the BBBJ- her technique was very average, but could be great if she is coached, and positioned herself so I could continue to finger her, which she seemed to enjoy. It ended a couple of minutes later with a cim. She generously waited for every last drop, disengaged herself, offered me a towel, wiped Peter down, then spit out into another towel.She then excused herself, and after a couple of minutes returned for some small chat. Again, very kind and a little GF like. Then I said thanks, and she walked me to the door, and that was that.All in all, I think it was remarkably good for what only cost 3000 yen. I was surprised that in terms of touch, anything goes- absolutely anything goes. *In terms of the girl, it was a little frustrating for me, as I am used to doing all the 'hard work' in my regular relationship, but was hoping to be 'serviced' a bit more rather than being the driver.Would I go again? *Geez- for 3000 yen absolutely, if for no other reason to see what service from another girl would be like. But it wasn't quite what I was expecting[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Radar1; 1157688]Hi there, Did the schoolgirl outfit have loose socks? [/QUOTE]No- mid calf black socks, as is the standard high school fashion these days.

[QUOTE=Radar1; 1157688]Hi there,

Did the schoolgirl outfit have loose socks? [/QUOTE]May I respectfuly ask why this question? I assume there must isbe some explanation, so would not like to miss something potentially interesting.

Sorry for asking before I take the plunge. Any of you regulars feel free to PM if you care to go that route. Anyone who wishes to share here, has my thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Dreams;1158095]May I respectfuly ask why this question? I assume there must isbe some explanation, so would not like to miss something potentially interesting.[/QUOTE]Loose socks is gyaru fashion it was the mad rage some years ago. It's a bit out of date now and plenty of hot gyaru are sporting tight socks, but you still see plenty of sexy kogyaru with the loose socks. It's a kind of sexy bad-girl look.

When I stopped through Tokyo last week I had a evening with her. She showed a about 20 min late but other than that had a wonderful evening with her. She got hotels mixed up. Her English is pretty good, speaks several different languages. She is not a skin and bones type of girl, so if you want to really pound that ass you won't have anything poking you back. Nice tits, I would say a US C cup. Ass dept. She has a nice tight bubble ass. She gets wet fairly easy, with some nice lips to play around with. Kind of a freaky girl and fun to be with. I would say for a one time good deal (prices with AM are fairly high) all in all she is a good choice. Enjoy and have fun. .

[QUOTE=Really Now;1159201]Sorry for asking before I take the plunge. Any of you regulars feel free to PM if you care to go that route. Anyone who wishes to share here, has my thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

Went to a massage place in Tokorozawa the other day. The website is [url]www.flat88.com.[/url] I opted for the 90 min Aroma Body Care. Body wash for 13, 000yen (+1000yen internet discount). The masseuse said her name is Nana and is 25 yo. Very cute girl. After undressing she took me to the shower table where I received a wash and scrub. Had to wear a g-string style underwear during the entire session. After the shower room she dried me off and gave me a new g-string. We then went back to the massage area where she gave me an oil massage. The massage was very invigorating and very close to my private parts, so I was almost certain there was going to be at least a happy ending. After the flip I was very aroused and the g-string could not contain my member. She massaged the top of my body getting very close to my member. She did let me rub her leg so I thought everything was good to go. But when I asked if she was going to massage me down there, she said no. Apologizing and saying that is not done there. I even asked if she would do it for more money and the answer was the same. She was very nice and polite and gave me a cup of tea when the massage finished. We hugged and she let me grab her ass but nothing more.

Has anyone else been to this sort of place? The website looks like other services are provided but I could not get anything more than a massage and some light groping. I was thinking of going to one of those lymphatic massage places but now think it will be the same thing. While the massage felt good, I left the place with a raging erection and a desire for release.

[QUOTE=Asia Monger; 1160588]Went to a massage place in Tokorozawa the other day. The website is.

[url]www.flat88.com.[/url][/QUOTE]There are a fair number of places like this. Some examples of the same type of places I've tried (Kanda area) are:

Body Spa.

[url]http://bodyspa.jp[/url]

(chain)

Aroma Resort.

[url]http://aromaresort.net[/url]

Frangi Pani.

[url]http://frangi-pani.net[/url]

Don't let the relatively high price fool you into assuming there is some extra service. These are exactly the same as what you found, from the paper jock strap they make you wear to the light teasing to the lack of happy ending. It's not really a scam, there is a market for this service. I believe that if you go often enough and build a relationship with a girl that there might be more on the table, but personally I don't think it's worth the investment. It may even be the case that the most expensive courses include happy ending service, although I would doubt it. YMMV.

ES

[QUOTE=Asia Monger; 1160588]Went to a massage place in Tokorozawa the other day. The website is.[url]www.flat88.com.[/url][/QUOTE]As noted, there are lots of places like this. Their services vary, but if you're given the g-string style pants (&32025; &12497; &12531; &12484; &65289; then it's a pretty sure bet that you're going to be teased, but not ultimately released. Also, I've found that the more a place stands out, the less likely you are to have a happy ending. In that, if there's a big sign on the street advertising the place, it's better to stay away if you're looking for a happy ending.There are plenty of places that do offer a happy ending (&25244; &12365; &65289; though. If you look on 2ch, you'll find lots of talk about which places do and which ones done. The Kanda area is a pretty location to start looking for happy ending places&65288; &22238; &26149; &12510; &12483; &12469; &12540; &12472; &65289; . You can start with some site like:[url]http://esz.jp/[/url]To see all the different places in an area. If you go to the official site of the place and they say "when you get to the station, give us a call" it's usually a good sign they have a happy ending. If, on the other hand, they list their address and show an exact map [it's been my experience that] it's much less likely to get a happy ending. Also, if you find a girl you like and want to build up a reputation, generally by the third time you visit you'll be able to get a happy ending. I went to Barihan ([url]http://www.akiba-balian.com/[/url]) in Akihabara and had to wear the pants the first time, didn't have to wear the pants the second time, and from the third time was getting a happy ending. This was with Mimi. Still it's quite an investment if you're not into that sort of thing.Other less conspicuous places that I've been to around that area and have had happy endings are:[url]http://kanda-iyashi.com/index.php[/url][url]http://www.highrank-esthe.com/[/url][url]http://www.akiba-mamiana.com/[/url][url]http://www.monstera-ak.com/[/url][url]http://kanda-esthe.com/index_pc.php[/url]Just note that you're going to have to put in some leg work and be ready for disappointment sometimes.

I have a girlfriend coming to visit in a few weeks time and I would like take her to a soapland or similar establishment. Would any of you know if such a thing exists? Soapland for gaijin women (women or man provider) or gaijin couple? I expect the answer to be that it doesn't exist but I thought I would ask. It could be fun.Thanks in advance,Taratata

Heyy friends had a trip to tokyo last week. As discussed in the posts out here, thigns were kind of same. Not gaijin friendly. I booked an escort through xclubtokyo. Com had asked for a babe called bony. In the pictures looks quite sexy. But what came was something tht didn't even let me have a good erection. Some 35 something lituvanian lady figure was ok. Face ok. But definately not what I had expected. Actually not the same girl as wht is seen in the pic. ANyways tried doing my deed with her anyhow and finished with her.

Then calle dup MIyu guys from erolin. Asked for shiori. He sent a girl on time (bony was arnd 60 mins late!) The girl was definately not the same as seen. But still was young and good. Had her for 6 hours. Was good and she finally left at 4:30 am. I liked the girl and she was good. But just want you guys to know. No matter how much one is willing to spend. We definately won't get the same girl as shown on the site. Except maybe AM and 1 or 2other usppliers that members have vouched for in the past.

Went to a strip club too where it was for a change mentioned "Foreigners Welcome" It was good experience.

But in short Japan left me thirsty as I couldn't get my hands on a really good japnese beauty inspite of haveing a really good budget.

Anyways then left for Thailand. Can read it in BAngkok reports.

Cheers guys

[QUOTE=Goldentouch80; 1161081]Heyy friends had a trip to tokyo last week. As discussed in the posts out here, thigns were kind of same. Not gaijin friendly. I booked an escort through xclubtokyo. Com had asked for a babe called bony. In the pictures looks quite sexy. But what came was something tht didn't even let me have a good erection. Some 35 something lituvanian lady figure was ok. Face ok. But definately not what I had expected. Actually not the same girl as wht is seen in the pic. ANyways tried doing my deed with her anyhow and finished with her.

Then calle dup MIyu guys from erolin. Asked for shiori. He sent a girl on time (bony was arnd 60 mins late!) The girl was definately not the same as seen. But still was young and good. Had her for 6 hours. Was good and she finally left at 4:30 am. I liked the girl and she was good. But just want you guys to know. No matter how much one is willing to spend. We definately won't get the same girl as shown on the site. Except maybe AM and 1 or 2other usppliers that members have vouched for in the past.

Went to a strip club too where it was for a change mentioned "Foreigners Welcome" It was good experience.

But in short Japan left me thirsty as I couldn't get my hands on a really good japnese beauty inspite of haveing a really good budget.

Anyways then left for Thailand. Can read it in BAngkok reports.

Cheers guys[/QUOTE]As largely commented in this thread, you could have got a "japanese beauty" by either using AM, or going to one of the gaijin-friendly sopaland in Yoshiwara.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1161154]As largely commented in this thread, you could have got a "japanese beauty" by either using AM, or going to one of the gaijin-friendly sopaland in Yoshiwara.[/QUOTE]I don't mean to (overly) criticize the poster on this one, but if you think that AM provides "Japanese beauties" then it may be time to schedule that LASIK surgery you've been considering.

Jokes aside, it's more a side effect of the fact that most P4P places with actual Japanese beauties are closed to us Outside People. More's the pity. If you have the game and the constitution for it I would recommend trying the nampa scene. It's hit and miss but sometimes that's the undiscovered country where the Japanese beauty abides. Otherwise there is the overpriced Yoshiwara.

ES

Hi everybody.Next month I will travel to Tokyo, and I will visit Hinomaru, some girl from AM, but I would like to know, if Grimpeur 5A, is gaijin-friendly or not.I read many info in forum about them, but some say they were friendly, and others not. Just to know if somebody went there recently, and gaijin still can go. I can understand a bit japanese, and talk some too, but basic.Thanks in advance,Coyote

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner; 1161462]I don't mean to (overly) criticize the poster on this one, but if you think that AM provides "Japanese beauties" then it may be time to schedule that LASIK surgery you've been considering.

Jokes aside, it's more a side effect of the fact that most P4P places with actual Japanese beauties are closed to us Outside People. More's the pity. If you have the game and the constitution for it I would recommend trying the nampa scene. It's hit and miss but sometimes that's the undiscovered country where the Japanese beauty abides. Otherwise there is the overpriced Yoshiwara.

ES[/QUOTE]Dear dear. No offense taken, but please note that I put the term "Japanese beauties" into quotes, since, as everyone knows, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

I had Manami, some years ago, when she was still fresh and working for AM, and I considered her at the time as a true Japanese beauty. But I can understand if other don't.

And you are right to say that Yoshiwara does now provide good options, especially since the recession has hit the shores of Japan.

Overpriced? Perhaps. And probably true if you are living in Japan on an "average salary". Not so much for business visitors. I paid 27000 last time for 80 mhn with all services included. And could choose my provider without surcharge. Not so bad compared to other places in the western world.

And of course, as far as nampa is concerned, this applies to people living there, I don't think there is much chance for a short time visitor, especially if he has to work as well during his visit. Having said that, I had once a clear opportunity to score with a Japanese coworker during a visit, but. She was definitively NOT a "beauty". So I passed to avoid complications.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1161154]As largely commented in this thread, you could have got a "japanese beauty" by either using AM, or going to one of the gaijin-friendly sopaland in Yoshiwara.[/QUOTE]I paid 50k for 6 hrs. And I loved the girl. Yes I knew about soapland but I prefer more of the hotel room scene. Besides I felt soapland I would get more of 'get done with the job fast' kinda service from the girl. But I am happy with the girl I got from miyu. AM I didn't like the choice of the girls and I knew all the sites have the pics enhanced and all. But still my gut instincts made me choose the miyu girl.

[QUOTE=Coyoteloco; 1161470]Hi everybody.Next month I will travel to Tokyo, and I will visit Hinomaru, some girl from AM, but I would like to know, if Grimpeur 5A, is gaijin-friendly or not.I read many info in forum about them, but some say they were friendly, and others not. Just to know if somebody went there recently, and gaijin still can go. I can understand a bit japanese, and talk some too, but basic.Thanks in advance, Coyote[/QUOTE]Was there yesterday. I am not Japanese, but can chat in Japanese. Still recommend Kasumi.

[QUOTE=Exgeo;1161996]Was there yesterday. I am not Japanese, but can chat in Japanese. Still recommend Kasumi.[/QUOTE]Exgeo, thank you so much, just one more question I forget, is FS included? Or you negotiate with the girl later? Apart from this, do you think that the japanese level required has to be high? Thanks again,Coyote

Gents, Some time ago a fashion health spotting AKB lookalikes appeared. Thought of giving it a chance the other day. But seems gone. Dunno if it was gf = gaijin friendly though.Can comfirm though that some of the BJ bars mentionned here in Gotanda are gf (on the inside Yamanote exit). Nihongo de shaberu, ii shaburi ga arimasu! Had a nice session with a cute girl. 23 (said 20 on sign) a week ago. She told me gaijins basically OK, but depending on level or appearance they may not let in (so brush up your 1 kyu. And dress well. She said she had some weird people+some gaijins don't understand system, and she liked when people were gentlemen like.Also a wonderful soap experience 2 days in Yoshiwara, damage around 35'. Young girl (said 20, but was 25) , great looks. Spare the details, but multiple pops and a noisy iku, iku. Girl.Gents, in your opinion, whats most price worthy (OK a freebie nampa) , but on the P4P scene, hotel healths, soaps.

Hi all, I'the like to get any details on which Pink Salons in and around Tokyo are foreigner friendly, and to what degree we mean 'friendly'.To kick things off I'll list 3 here that I have experience with, I'm white and my Nihongo level is. Well. Less than I would like in the way that I can express myself however the grammar is clearly broken / messed up.Hinomaru.Location: Shinjuku (Kabukicho) URL:[url]http://www.hinomaru-caba.com[/url]Price / System: BBJ 20mins 4000 Info: No-one has a problem here it's like the default, service & price wise pretty good ? the girl really lets you pretty much do what you want while being serviced. Women could be a little younger at times but that's personal I guess, overall no complaints.Jan Jan.Location: Sugamo.URL:? Map:[url]http://t1nyurl.com/3onkeec[/url] (it's the Red sign with white vertical writing B1) Price / System: BBJ 20mins 3000.Info: Like Hinomaru this place is very foreigner friendly no one will have any issues here, it's the cheapest of the 3 however it's no less fun. I find that this and Hinomaru are interchangeable and if you look on a map to figure out which ones closest any is OK as service is similar.Emotion / Dio.Location: Gotanda:URL:[url]http://www.emotion.vc/[/url]&[url]http://www.dio.bz/[/url]Price / System: BBJ 7000 40 minute 2 girl rotation (I'm only ever offered that option) Info: Both these stores are in the same building and are connected ? I believe that Emotion is upstairs and that's the one the touts let you in. Most expensive of the 3 here however you do get 2 goes if you want that so I guess it evens out. Girls seem younger than Jan Jan or Hinomaru and range from mid 20's to mid 30's. I've never had a problem getting in and the service has always been good with the girls pretty uninhibited and friendly.I'the be interested to hear your own experiences with the above and list any additional places that can be explored. Please provide links / names / maps if you can to make finding these treasures easier for the group.Cheers!

Was in town on business, thought I'd try out the famed Jan Jan. Got there around 1030, had no problems finding it. But the tout refused me. I asked and he simply said they were "too full". Took a walk and came back 60-90 minutes later. No shop in the area looked even remotely interested in offering me service. On my way home now. No time and no more options means no happy endings for me tonight.

[QUOTE=Azure Knight;1164391]Was in town on business, thought I'd try out the famed Jan Jan. Got there around 1030, had no problems finding it. But the tout refused me. I asked and he simply said they were "too full". Took a walk and came back 60-90 minutes later. No shop in the area looked even remotely interested in offering me service. On my way home now. No time and no more options means no happy endings for me tonight.[/QUOTE]Very very surprising and. Depressing.

I was there in January and was approached by all touts in the alley (I am white caucasian).

Has one SOB messed it up for us all?

First off let me say what a great resource this site is can't believe I've been getting along without it. Thank you to all. Have tried a lot of places around Machida / Sagamihara area and thought I'd share my results. None of which will pace with what you can receive around Tokyo, however if your in a fix and you're in the neighborhood.

Machida. Mostly esute parlors, half decent massage / mixed bag on the extras; none are full service to my knowledge but many offer HJ, a few BBBJ, and one offers CIM (PM for directions). Might have to prove yourself a regular. Typical esute prices and not really a great value overall.

Sagamihara. Actually has one Pink Salon, completely GF, very close to the station easy to find. My little wendy (kinda creeps me out) is the name I think (PM me) prices range from daytime 5000 to last call 8000 (Jan Jan / Hinomaru are both better choices) it's relatively clean, typical J-techno-pop-annoyance coming over the speakers. Surprisingly comfortable high rise couches that do well at obscuring the rest of the place (pretty dark anyways). Offer you a whiskey or tea once you sit. About 4-5 regular girls ranging from 5-8 out of 10 (based on what I've had round Tokyo) but all are young (mid twenty-ish). Other than that it's esute w / mixed results but all are pretty up front about what they offer and most will let you in the door and some filipina pub snack places if that's your thing.

Sobudai Mae. Don't waste your time, filipina pubsnack / esute.

Hon Atsugi. Have had no luck with any of the Pink Salons (there is actually quite a few within walking distance) many massage places none of which offered anything other than decent massage / light tease with the pseudo paper banana hammock. Great area though if you're there check out Macarthur's Garage (Live Jazz Band / Bar).

One question. Has anyone been to Kings Club / Fantasy since the change over? Was going to venture over there this weekend, but had some misgivings. Anyways.

That's all for now

Good luck

[QUOTE=Captpaizuri;1164689]One question. Has anyone been to Kings Club / Fantasy since the change over? Was going to venture over there this weekend, but had some misgivings. Anyways.[/QUOTE]I have been to Fantasy twice. I had Nanako. Very good soapland first experience. Just found that if you go late evening, the girl might be a bit tired. The second one I had was yawning and fell asleep for a few minutes after I got the job done. Great experiences nonetheless.

Hey fellas.

I'm thinking of hitting up Tokyo for a couple of weeks and wondering if any of these places offer FS? Are Pink Salons like AMPs?

What are the prices and can you recommend any?

I was strolling around Shibuya yesterday afternoon and decided to pay a visit to Grimpeur. When I got there I was surprised to discover that they had moved, now located on Doganzaka (access map on their homepage). The new shop in their old location is now called Milk Gals, with pretty much the same set up as Grimp. The youngish tencho there was welcoming, so I thought it prudent to give them a try. He quickly established that my Japanese is adequate and then pulled out the pics for me to choose. The time / price options are slightly different than Grimp, with Milk's cheapest daytime option being 35 mins for 12500. I went with that option as I was a bit pressed for time and allowed him to choose the gal for me?I just asked for a slender gal if possible. I then waited at the hotel for about 10 mins, after which Yumi arrived-not quite as slender as I had hoped for, though not at all chubby (I am just into very slim gals). However, she proved to be a very sweet, pleasant, accommodating gal who did not disappoint.

Have any of you lads tried Grimp since they moved? If so, any changes to their set up / prices?

Manta Ray

RTFF The information is out there.

[QUOTE=Chimmy31; 1165091]Hey fellas.

I'm thinking of hitting up Tokyo for a couple of weeks and wondering if any of these places offer FS? Are Pink Salons like AMPs?

What are the prices and can you recommend any? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bijinnampa;1162628]Can comfirm though that some of the BJ bars mentionned here in Gotanda are gf (on the inside Yamanote exit). Nihongo de shaberu, ii shaburi ga arimasu! Had a nice session with a cute girl. 23 (said 20 on sign) a week ago. She told me gaijins basically OK, but depending on level or appearance they may not let in (so brush up your 1 kyu. And dress well. She said she had some weird people+some gaijins don't understand system, and she liked when people were gentlemen like.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the pointer for maybe an alternate foreigner friendly pink salon in Gotanda (apart from.[url]http://www.emotion.vc[/url]Which I have detailed earlier on this page) I'the be grateful to if you could give any additional details as to its name / location (google maps) /URL or the cost of your session? Cheers

[QUOTE=Manta Ray;1165157]I was strolling around Shibuya yesterday afternoon and decided to pay a visit to Grimpeur. When I got there I was surprised to discover that they had moved, now located on Doganzaka (access map on their homepage). The new shop in their old location is now called Milk Gals, with pretty much the same set up as Grimp. The youngish tencho there was welcoming, so I thought it prudent to give them a try. He quickly established that my Japanese is adequate and then pulled out the pics for me to choose. The time / price options are slightly different than Grimp, with Milk's cheapest daytime option being 35 mins for 12500. I went with that option as I was a bit pressed for time and allowed him to choose the gal for me?I just asked for a slender gal if possible. I then waited at the hotel for about 10 mins, after which Yumi arrived-not quite as slender as I had hoped for, though not at all chubby (I am just into very slim gals). However, she proved to be a very sweet, pleasant, accommodating gal who did not disappoint.[/QUOTE]It's good to know there is possibly another foreigner friendly Shibuya shop, a quick search around gives their URL as.[url]http://www.milk-gal.com[/url]As they have what looks to be a pretty multi-layered system can you tell us what was on offer and indicate as to whether the session included FS or whether you believe there may be a possibility for it? Cheers.

I've got a question, I don't understand Samerarete yoshi,"blame / criticise is OK"So what does that mean you do? You call her stupid and ugly? Or is she blaming the customer?JG(I tried writing the kanji but Japanese support is broken)

[QUOTE=Japanguy; 1165375]I've got a question, I don't understand

Samerarete yoshi,"blame / criticise is OK"

So what does that mean you do? You call her stupid and ugly? Or is she blaming the customer?

JG.

(I tried writing the kanji but Japanese support is broken) [/QUOTE]Is this from an S&M site? If so verbal abuse might be on the menu.

[QUOTE=RomajiDake; 1165356]Thanks for the pointer for maybe an alternate foreigner friendly pink salon in Gotanda (apart from.

[url]http://www.emotion.vc[/url]

Which I have detailed earlier on this page)

I'the be grateful to if you could give any additional details as to its name / location (google maps) /URL or the cost of your session?

Cheers[/QUOTE]I tried Dio last Saturday. I'm pretty sure they share girls with emotion upstairs. It's relatively easy to find. If you are going by train, you will see Aoyama / Big Echo on one side of the platform. That's the steet you want to exit on. Cross the street to Aoyama and keep walking down the same road. When you see Nippon Rental Car you make a right. When you see the 100 yen Parking, make a right down that alley and Dio / Essence are immediately on the right.

The guy offered me 2 girls for 50 minutes for 7000 yen. My japanese sucks so I said OK. I waited for a while in a darkened room. A few girls ran through the room giggling. The first girl to service me (BBBJ) was cute but a little buta. She left after 20 minutes and a few minutes later another took over. The second woman was older and quite hideous. I mean scary hideous but she could suck a mean dick, so I came after 20 minutes, got up and left. As I walked down the street a couple of really cute Japanese girls shuffled me into a FS place. They all spoke a little english but I wasn't in the mood so I left and took the train home.

Here a google map link,

[url]http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?q=gotanda&ie=UTF8&hl=en&hq=&hnear=Gotanda&ll=35.626934[/url]

139. 725559&spn=0. 001288, 0.002411&z=19&brcurrent=3, 0x60188afbe931ce45:0x4d31ad99dbf1b838, 0&layer=see&cbll=35. 626842, 139. 725523&panoid=wjAuAQ8CKLt4g3MjhyXAeg&cbp=12, 323. 02, 0.10. 81

[QUOTE=Djibouti Lover; 1165707]I tried Dio last Saturday. I'm pretty sure they share girls with emotion upstairs. It's relatively easy to find. If you are going by train, you will see Aoyama / Big Echo on one side of the platform. That's the steet you want to exit on. Cross the street to Aoyama and keep walking down the same road. When you see Nippon Rental Car you make a right. When you see the 100 yen Parking, make a right down that alley and Dio / Essence are immediately on the right.

The guy offered me 2 girls for 50 minutes for 7000 yen. My japanese sucks so I said OK. I waited for a while in a darkened room. A few girls ran through the room giggling. The first girl to service me (BBBJ) was cute but a little buta. She left after 20 minutes and a few minutes later another took over. The second woman was older and quite hideous. I mean scary hideous but she could suck a mean dick, so I came after 20 minutes, got up and left. As I walked down the street a couple of really cute Japanese girls shuffled me into a FS place. They all spoke a little english but I wasn't in the mood so I left and took the train home.

Here a google map link,

[url]http://bit.ly/iTE49m[/url]

Hi all! I've been frequenting this forum for a few months now, but never posted before.Anyway, thanks to your recommendations I have visited Sarane, the Korean esute in Shin-Okachimachi, three times in the last few weeks. The girls are obviously not stunners, but at 7500 for FS, never failed to disappoint.On Saturday lunchtime I went again, but when I rang the number listed on the site it didn't go through. Tried a few more times with the same result. Of course, as I've been before I just went up to the place and rang the bell a couple of times but no answer. No sound to be heard from within either, and as the website:[url]http://www.saranes.com/[/url]Is also down now, I assume they've closed down now.Actually, I went there about three weeks ago and the guy said business has been pretty poor. I guess it was only a matter of time. Such a shame!

[QUOTE=RomajiDake; 1165359]It's good to know there is possibly another foreigner friendly Shibuya shop, a quick search around gives their URL as.

[url]http://www.milk-gal.com[/url]

As they have what looks to be a pretty multi-layered system can you tell us what was on offer and indicate as to whether the session included FS or whether you believe there may be a possibility for it?

Cheers. [/QUOTE]Their menu includes the standard DeliHealth fare-basically everything except FS. As always, YMMV depending on the gal in question-some DeliHealth gals may be open to FS when they are 'in the moment' (either gratis or for an extra 'AF option' fee) , but it is never a good idea to press the matter. I think the best chance of an FS experience at a DeliHealth is to get the card of the gal you are with, ask for her the next time you are there, and then maybe after the second or third time she services you, she will feel comfortable enough to provide FS. However, FS is never on the set menu at a Japanese (as opposed to Chinese or Korean) Health / DeliHealth establishment, and is technically illegal.

Manta Ray

Three Sundays ago I visited a Korean massage parlour in Okachimachi. Happy ([url]http://www.bihaku-dh.com/list.html[/url] ).I called from the street level, as instructed on the website and went up to flat 501. When I entered heard and smelled the sound of lunch being cooked in the kitchen on the premises. Given that it is a Korean place, quite strong and pungent and not really the best for getting into the "mood"! Paid 11, 000 for the 'Special' course, which was to consist of an oil massage and extras. Was shown into the "room", basically a small cubicle with a relatively hard massage bed. That is, rather than an actual bed. Next a early- to mid-30s lady came in, who was to be my masseur. Given that all the girls on the website look and are supposed to be in their early- to mid-20s, this was a bit of a surprise. Quite plain looking, but at least not a complete beast and slim.I was then undressed and told to lay on the bed with face down. This was followed by a lengthy oil massage, which was not entirely unpleasant but non-sexual anyway. I was then washed, with a little attention given to the little fella. Proceeded to go back to the cubicle and this time she went to work pretty much straight away. Kissing all over the body and then slowly focused on the fella. After a BBJ, she then climbed on top and looked like she was going straight for entry. As she hadn't slapped on a condom, I was worried and stopped her, but she assured me that it would be 'sumata' only. Proceeded to do this and then back to BBJ and hand until I came.When she took me for a shower again, I had a chat with her. Seems she has been in the business in Japan for about 4 years, working in a few different places in the country. Her Japanese was very good as a result, and very experienced. She said that there is no FS in this place at all, so they do not even keep condoms there. Different to a few of the other Korean esute places, I guess. Anyway, the massage was fine and the action OK, but with me thinking FS would be par for the course I left pretty disappointed in the end.Price: 11, 000 for oil massage, BBJ, handjob and sumata, no FS on the menu.Looks: 4.Body: 6.Action: 3.Go again? No

[QUOTE=Djibouti Lover; 1165708]The guy offered me 2 girls for 50 minutes for 7000 yen. My japanese sucks so I said OK. I waited for a while in a darkened room. A few girls ran through the room giggling. The first girl to service me (BBBJ) was cute but a little buta. She left after 20 minutes and a few minutes later another took over. The second woman was older and quite hideous. I mean scary hideous but she could suck a mean dick, so I came after 20 minutes, got up and left. As I walked down the street a couple of really cute Japanese girls shuffled me into a FS place. They all spoke a little english but I wasn't in the mood so I left and took the train home.Here a google map link, [url]http://bit.ly/iTE49m[/url][/QUOTE]Good work on the Emotion / Dio map but it was what you mentioned after that sounded interesting. What was this FS place? Sounds bit suspect ? 2 cute Japanese girls were working as touts for this place hmm.You mind pointing that out on a map? [url]http://www.emotion.vc[/url][url]http://www.dio.bz[/url]

I went to this place over a year ago. They definitely have FS at that time and I only paid 10, 000 yen back then. But they have a really poor girls selection which why I haven't been there for a long time.[QUOTE=Vichanchan; 1166076]Three Sundays ago I visited a Korean massage parlour in Okachimachi. Happy[url]http://www.bihaku-dh.com/list.html[/url]I called from the street level, as instructed on the website and went up to flat 501. When I entered heard and smelled the sound of lunch being cooked in the kitchen on the premises. Given that it is a Korean place, quite strong and pungent and not really the best for getting into the "mood"! Paid 11, 000 for the 'Special' course, which was to consist of an oil massage and extras. Was shown into the "room", basically a small cubicle with a relatively hard massage bed. That is, rather than an actual bed. Next a early- to mid-30s lady came in, who was to be my masseur. Given that all the girls on the website look and are supposed to be in their early- to mid-20s, this was a bit of a surprise. Quite plain looking, but at least not a complete beast and slim.I was then undressed and told to lay on the bed with face down. This was followed by a lengthy oil massage, which was not entirely unpleasant but non-sexual anyway. I was then washed, with a little attention given to the little fella. Proceeded to go back to the cubicle and this time she went to work pretty much straight away. Kissing all over the body and then slowly focused on the fella. After a BBJ, she then climbed on top and looked like she was going straight for entry. As she hadn't slapped on a condom, I was worried and stopped her, but she assured me that it would be 'sumata' only. Proceeded to do this and then back to BBJ and hand until I came.When she took me for a shower again, I had a chat with her. Seems she has been in the business in Japan for about 4 years, working in a few different places in the country. Her Japanese was very good as a result, and very experienced. She said that there is no FS in this place at all, so they do not even keep condoms there. Different to a few of the other Korean esute places, I guess. Anyway, the massage was fine and the action OK, but with me thinking FS would be par for the course I left pretty disappointed in the end.Price: 11, 000 for oil massage, BBJ, handjob and sumata, no FS on the menu.Looks: 4.Body: 6.Action: 3.Go again? No[/QUOTE]

What is a good alternative FS Korean esute place? By the way, I've gone through the thread up to around page 50 or so and many of the other "contenders" seem to be dead links now.

So last night I had decided to follow always-wise-Dreams's advice and go have a look at King's Club in Yoshiwara.

I checked on the internet but the website seems to be down.

[url]http://www.kings-club.net/[/url]

Anyone got info about the situation?

Anyway, last week I tried a different kind of "relaxation spa".

[url]http://www.whitebeach-sh.com/[/url]

Gaijin ok but you need to speak some Japanese.

First of all please note that it's a no-sex place (no happy ending and you can't touch her). For those who just lost interest in reading this post I apologize for the waste of time.

So I was in that kind of mood and I got Yuu (whom I recommend) .24 yo very pretty brunette with a great body.

I went for the &12488; &12525; &12488; &12525; &12496; &12491; &12521; &12467; &12540; &12473; ("sticky-oily vanilla course") , which resulted in a kind of soapland-like service. (girl puts some sticky "lotion" all over your body and rubs it all with her legs and ass and stuff). She takes off her clothes but keeps her underwear. She let her hands slip all over my body, down to very close of my intimate parts. A couple of times she touched them with her hands, arms, ass and feet, but more like "they were on the way from your chest down to your legs". Nothing got grabbed but the sticky-oily-whatever made me feel she did a couple of times, and all was done in a very pleasing way.

At the end I couldn't hide my hard-on (they give you one of those tissue panties that aren't hiding much in the first place). Yuu noticed it and was like "wow it's really beautiful" (whatever),"It's so bad I'm not allowed to do more for you" and kept touching me close around my boner. So of course I was sorrier than she was, but I like how she kept rubbing her butt against me instead of being like "let me tell you something sir, we're NOT that kind of massage place"

Total time 100 min, damage 23, 000.

I enjoyed it and consider going again.

So I suppose some of you will think "what's wrong with that guy, seriously" but I just guess that sometimes getting laid is not your priority, and you might prefer to get your body touched all over and turned on rock hard. Even if that means no sex. By a very pretty girl in wet underwear. If some day you feel this way then I think White Beach is a nice option.

PS: Actually now I'm looking for a nice soapland where you can get that kind of quality pre-FS service by a pretty girl. If you have some suggestions I'd be glad to hear them.

Take care.

Jared

The service sounds good as long as you know ahead of time. I think the benefit is that you get access to a really good quality girl that ordinarily wouldn't be a SW, but this kind of service gives them a fig leaf to pretend that it's juat a part time job.Even if the girl, isn't allowed to give you a HJ, is it possible for you to take care of yourself while she is doing her thing? [QUOTE=Little Jared; 1166932]Anyway, last week I tried a different kind of "relaxation spa".[url]http://www.whitebeach-sh.com/[/url]Gaijin ok but you need to speak some Japanese.First of all please note that it's a no-sex place (no happy ending and you can't touch her). For those who just lost interest in reading this post I apologize for the waste of time.So I was in that kind of mood and I got Yuu (whom I recommend).24 yo very pretty brunette with a great body.I went for the &12488; &12525; &12488; &12525; &12496; &12491; &12521; &12467; &12540; &12473; ("sticky-oily vanilla course") , which resulted in a kind of soapland-like service. (girl puts some sticky "lotion" all over your body and rubs it all with her legs and ass and stuff). She takes off her clothes but keeps her underwear. She let her hands slip all over my body, down to very close of my intimate parts. A couple of times she touched them with her hands, arms, ass and feet, but more like "they were on the way from your chest down to your legs". Nothing got grabbed but the sticky-oily-whatever made me feel she did a couple of times, and all was done in a very pleasing way.At the end I couldn't hide my hard-on (they give you one of those tissue panties that aren't hiding much in the first place). Yuu noticed it and was like "wow it's really beautiful" (whatever),"It's so bad I'm not allowed to do more for you" and kept touching me close around my boner. So of course I was sorrier than she was, but I like how she kept rubbing her butt against me instead of being like "let me tell you something sir, we're NOT that kind of massage place"Total time 100 min, damage 23, 000.I enjoyed it and consider going again.So I suppose some of you will think "what's wrong with that guy, seriously" but I just guess that sometimes getting laid is not your priority, and you might prefer to get your body touched all over and turned on rock hard. Even if that means no sex. By a very pretty girl in wet underwear. If some day you feel this way then I think White Beach is a nice option.PS: Actually now I'm looking for a nice soapland where you can get that kind of quality pre-FS service by a pretty girl. If you have some suggestions I'd be glad to hear them.Take care.Jared[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1166918]So last night I had decided to follow always-wise-Dreams's advice and go have a look at King's Club in Yoshiwara.I checked on the internet but the website seems to be down.[url]http://www.kings-club.net/[/url]Anyone got info about the situation? [/QUOTE]Yes, Kings club site is down so is the shop, however, the sister shop has taken over the girls.[url]www.y-fantasy.com[/url]Enjoy. Nanako is great!

[QUOTE=Azure Knight;1164391]Was in town on business, thought I'd try out the famed Jan Jan. Got there around 1030, had no problems finding it. But the tout refused me. I asked and he simply said they were "too full". Took a walk and came back 60-90 minutes later. No shop in the area looked even remotely interested in offering me service. On my way home now. No time and no more options means no happy endings for me tonight.[/QUOTE]Went by JanJan this afternoon, so can say that all is normal there. I've had the guy say "No, it's full" in the past. Hard to know if it's actually full or maybe Newt Gingrich was in there getting a hummer. But they're still happily accepting foreigners. The 2 other shops "Hana-bira" tried to wave me in but I passed. It always amazes me in the middle of Tokyo you can get a BBBJCIM for only 3000.

The Tanuki

Kings' Club is closed. Some of the girls have moved to this new place Y-Fantasy. Gaijin-friendly and similar pricing as Kings' Club, probably just change of management.[url]http://www.y-fantasy.com/[/url][QUOTE=Little Jared; 1166918]So last night I had decided to follow always-wise-Dreams's advice and go have a look at King's Club in Yoshiwara.I checked on the internet but the website seems to be down.[url]http://www.kings-club.net/[/url]Anyone got info about the situation? [/QUOTE]

Does anybody know what happened to the girls at Saranes? Are they working at some other Korean shop?

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1166932]Anyway, last week I tried a different kind of "relaxation spa".

[url]http://www.whitebeach-sh.com/[/url]

Take care.

Jared[/QUOTE]Do not blame you for you rchoice, I agree with your opinion, but isn't it a a serious case of blue balls after you leave?

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1166932]Anyway, last week I tried a different kind of "relaxation spa".

[url]http://www.whitebeach-sh.com/[/url]

Gaijin ok but you need to speak some Japanese.

First of all please note that it's a no-sex place (no happy ending and you can't touch her). For those who just lost interest in reading this post I apologize for the waste of time.

So I was in that kind of mood and I got Yuu (whom I recommend).24 yo very pretty brunette with a great body.

I went for the &12488; &12525; &12488; &12525; &12496; &12491; &12521; &12467; &12540; &12473; ("sticky-oily vanilla course") , which resulted in a kind of soapland-like service. (girl puts some sticky "lotion" all over your body and rubs it all with her legs and ass and stuff). She takes off her clothes but keeps her underwear. She let her hands slip all over my body, down to very close of my intimate parts. A couple of times she touched them with her hands, arms, ass and feet, but more like "they were on the way from your chest down to your legs". Nothing got grabbed but the sticky-oily-whatever made me feel she did a couple of times, and all was done in a very pleasing way.

At the end I couldn't hide my hard-on (they give you one of those tissue panties that aren't hiding much in the first place). Yuu noticed it and was like "wow it's really beautiful" (whatever),"It's so bad I'm not allowed to do more for you" and kept touching me close around my boner. So of course I was sorrier than she was, but I like how she kept rubbing her butt against me instead of being like "let me tell you something sir, we're NOT that kind of massage place"

Total time 100 min, damage 23, 000.

I enjoyed it and consider going again.

So I suppose some of you will think "what's wrong with that guy, seriously" but I just guess that sometimes getting laid is not your priority, and you might prefer to get your body touched all over and turned on rock hard. Even if that means no sex. By a very pretty girl in wet underwear. If some day you feel this way then I think White Beach is a nice option.

PS: Actually now I'm looking for a nice soapland where you can get that kind of quality pre-FS service by a pretty girl. If you have some suggestions I'd be glad to hear them.

Take care.

Jared[/QUOTE]Seems really good. Except the lack of happy ending. But, as you say, some of us, due to "old age" or else, cannot cum every second hour, so this may be a good alternative.

King's club: I am not in Tokyo right now, but seem to recall some posts recently talking about "fusion" with another soapland club, whose name escapes me just now. Go back a few posts and you find the info.

A general question to all of you living there, regarding the ususal sentence " a little japanese speaking may be required". I am about to reach the lowest level (5) of JLPT. Is this level considered enough under the heading "little Japanese required"?

Hi RomajiDake san! Well, JanJan in Sugamo they do not have HP till now.Any way, There are still making good job with reasonable price.But the problem is that bad smell of tobacco inside when I wasvisit there10 years ago.I was took my Korean friend for JanJan that he was very enjoy Japanese Pinsaro BJ.Because, We are denied from entering Pinsaro in Ootsuka previous day.I do not know why that I am Japanese guide and I was explain who can speak Nihongo.Most Pinsaro in Sugamo station north exit of these are same as attitude like Ootsuka.Here a google map location Paste is this 35. 732696, 139. 740281.Good luck all.

It's been a while since I've checked this site and noticed complaints about lack of Korean Estes. I still find Nippori the best option (Sora, Hoshi, etc) or places like Sopia or Luv Girl (or any of the countless others) in Nishi Nippori. FS usually for courses over 60 min. FS usually a given for the Chinese estes in those areas.

Hi All, Thanks for all the useful information. I've read this forum back and forth and learned a lot. I'm currently staying in Shinjuku and I want to try my first soapland experience tomorrow. It seems a lot of people like Fantasy (previously Kings) but I also see it seems to be a bit far away. Are there any good soaplands close to Shinjuku that will take an english only asian? FYI, not sure if this matters as they usually have variety of girls but I prefer younger, petite girls.I found some reviews on tokyopinkguide. Com but none of the soaplands seem to have good ratings.Also, I think I know the answer but I'll ask anyway. Since it's my first time I'm assuming I should get at least 80 min, probably 100 min to experience everything. Or maybe I should go for 60 to see if I like it at all and try again later. .BF

[QUOTE=Kanda;1168608]It's been a while since I've checked this site and noticed complaints about lack of Korean Estes. I still find Nippori the best option (Sora, Hoshi, etc) or places like Sopia or Luv Girl (or any of the countless others) in Nishi Nippori. FS usually for courses over 60 min. FS usually a given for the Chinese estes in those areas.[/QUOTE]Sorry could you update since I do enjoy those korean estes as well. Do you have websites and more specific recommendations? Does any provide 3P for instance? I like younger slim and nice size breasts, nice face. And most of all heartful service. (as most of us do I guess.)

[QUOTE=BobFoot; 1168616]Hi All, Also, I think I know the answer but I'll ask anyway. Since it's my first time I'm assuming I should get at least 80 min, probably 100 min to experience everything. Or maybe I should go for 60 to see if I like it at all and try again later. .BF[/QUOTE]In my limited experience, the 60 minutes course does not include matplay. Maybe because I did not ask. I had to go back and go for the 80 minutes course. I wonder what the 100 minutes course is like, but at 40k at fantasy I'll have to think twice before going for it.

Is Supergirls still around? Several months ago I posted about how they brought me from Supergirls to another place a couple of blocks away but I didn't keep up with the forum. Did anyone have any luck getting in there?

Any other options to consider in that area? I'll be staying at the Conrad again for most of this trip. I remember walking around Shimbashi and seeing some places but never understood how shops worked so never ventured in to any other than Supergirls.

Also, I may stay at the Ritz Carlton in Ginza for a few nights on this trip. Anything around that area?

[QUOTE=Taratata;1168712]In my limited experience, the 60 minutes course does not include matplay. Maybe because I did not ask. I had to go back and go for the 80 minutes course. I wonder what the 100 minutes course is like, but at 40k at fantasy I'll have to think twice before going for it.[/QUOTE]thanks Taratata. I just wanted to clarify your earlier post about gaijin tax. Are the prices you quoted the total prices or the gaijin tax in addition to whats listed on their website? For example, they list 100 min as 25, 000 and you're saying 40, 000. That's the total price right? It can't be 25, 000 + 40, 000! LOL.

[QUOTE=BobFoot; 1168736]thanks Taratata. I just wanted to clarify your earlier post about gaijin tax. Are the prices you quoted the total prices or the gaijin tax in addition to whats listed on their website? For example, they list 100 min as 25, 000 and you're saying 40, 000. That's the total price right? It can't be 25, 000 + 40, 000! LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes that is right. 60/23k 80/27k 100/40k. When you enter, the guy will take a board from behind his desk and show it to you. These prices were shown on the Kings Club site but unfortunately this is gone. Maybe an update on fantasy site will come soon.

Hi all, After much research I decided to try my first mongering in Japan. I was originally going to try a soaplands but I was so exhausted from all my sightseeing that I decided I'd rather lay around and get massaged. I will try soaplands later. So I know most of what I'm going to say has been covered but there are some details for newbs that I feel are worth mentioning. For the impatient I did the 90 minute powder massage with Asami and had a great time. 13, 000 yen since I nominated her.So first of all, I was a bit confused about the difference between Asian Feeling and Asian Relax. From what I gather, the rooms in Asian Relax are bigger with mirrors etc. They also do a hot towel massage at the beginning of each massage. That is why they charge an extra 500 yen.I opted for Asian Feeling since that was where Asami was scheduled.After paying the fee I was directed to a small room. Very small, It doesn't have much space around the mat. But it had a door so was private. I got naked and laid on the mat. Asami came in and introduced herself. I sat up and talked for a little. She does talk a little english and has a fun spunky personality. She's pretty attractive too IMO although she's not in her early 20s. I do not have an experience to compare against but I'm generally picky and was not disappointed. So during the talk she was quite close and I was wondering if she intended some DFK. I felt her up a bit which she didn't seem to mind but I wasn't too grabby. I joked about taking off her dress but she wouldn't have any of that. Grabbing her breasts seemed a bit of a no-no but she did take one out and let me fondle it. Kissing was ok with closed lips and she also did some kissing about the neck. After a bit of playing around like this she asked about a shower to which I agreed since it was a hot day.She led me outside in a towel to the shower. I believe the shower is optional as I read sign nearby but I'm not sure why anyone would not want one. I entered the shower and she followed, fully dressed. She closed the door and then proceeded to spray me down and soap me up. She did a bit of teasing down below in the manner of cleaning me. After soaping and rinsing my whole body we exited and she dried me off with the towel. Nice service.Back to the room and again some play type action. I was almost wondering if I had to tell her to start my massage and if she was delaying but maybe it's all part of the GFE? Anyway I didn't mind too much and after about 5 more min she asked if I was ready for HJ to which I agreed. At this point about 15 min had elapsed. She used oil and did a great job. After I came she cleaned me up and then turned me over for the massage.The powder massage for those that don't know is simply when they use baby powder instead of oil. Asami's massage is pretty good by AM standards but probably just ok for real massage standards. I like a deep tissue massage but this was more a relaxing massage. She did at times sit on my body with her knees to give me deeper feel. I got about an hour massage and then she turned me over asking if I was ready for seconds. I agreed and again nice HJ.There was still about 10 minutes left. I joked with her that I wanted to nap because the massage was so good. On a hot day like today a great massage in an air conditioned place like this is quite a treat. For the last minutes she gave me a head massage as I lay in her lap.So at this point I must say I think the 90 minute is good enough. I'm not sure if one got a 2 hr massage if you'd actually get massaged for 2 hrs. Depends what you want I guess. Anyway, afterwards I was again taken to the shower and cleaned off like before. Did I say I like the service? At the end she came back to the room as I got dressed and gave me a piece of paper with what I believe was Asian Feeling written on top with their phone numbers. She had written her name and her number. I don't know if this is normal (to get the number) or if she wanted something more.All in all a wonderful experience and well worth the money IMO.BobFoot

[QUOTE=Little Jared;1166932]Anyway, last week I tried a different kind of "relaxation spa".[/QUOTE]These places seem to be popping up at the same rate than the "normal" Chinese massage places with happy endings are disappearing.

I have visited similar place in Kabukicho called Vivianite.

[url]http://www.vivianite-s.com/[/url]

Now a couple of times. What must be said is that they really know what they are doing in terms of getting you aroused.

Just by accident you are given the world's best view inside the cleverage or under the skimpy skirt while at the same time her hands are reaching over to your buddy.

Just to miss it by an inch.

Just two days ago I visited them again wanting to see if anything is changed and pretending to be there for the first time as they were giving 60 minutes for 4. 000 yens for new-comers.

It ended up being 5k with the registration fee and it actually did not have the soapy play but just shiatsu. Only thing changed seemed to be the fact that in the beginning when they opened all the girls were Japanese and now they are Chinese.

Anyway, all was fine and all was the same so a good massage with lots of teasing and pretty views and an unhappy ending.

So this is definately not your standard fare but I must say I was still happy. Which leaves only one question to be answered; what the hell is wrong with me? .

[QUOTE=BobFoot; 1168895]Hi all, The powder massage for those that don't know is simply when they use baby powder instead of oil. Asami's massage is pretty good by AM standards but probably just ok for real massage standards. I like a deep tissue massage but this was more a relaxing massage. She did at times sit on my body with her knees to give me deeper feel. I got about an hour massage and then she turned me over asking if I was ready for seconds. I agreed and again nice HJ.BobFoot[/QUOTE]Good to know. I went to One of the two a couple of weeks back. Took the 90 minutes course and been serviced by Kana. First experience there too. It was great, GFE and all that but only one pop. Glad to read that two pops may be on the menu. Maybe it was because she is new. I will go there again and see if I can two out this time!

[QUOTE=Bijinnampa; 1162628]Gents,

Some time ago a fashion health spotting AKB lookalikes appeared. Thought of giving it a chance the other day. But seems gone. Dunno if it was gf = gaijin friendly though.

Can comfirm though that some of the BJ bars mentionned here in Gotanda are gf (on the inside Yamanote exit). Nihongo de shaberu, ii shaburi ga arimasu! Had a nice session with a cute girl. 23 (said 20 on sign) a week ago. She told me gaijins basically OK, but depending on level or appearance they may not let in (so brush up your 1 kyu. And dress well. She said she had some weird people+some gaijins don't understand system, and she liked when people were gentlemen like.

Also a wonderful soap experience 2 days in Yoshiwara, damage around 35'. Young girl (said 20, but was 25) , great looks. Spare the details, but multiple pops and a noisy iku, iku. Girl.

Gents, in your opinion, whats most price worthy (OK a freebie nampa) , but on the P4P scene, hotel healths, soaps. [/QUOTE]Hi could you elaborate where you went in Gotanda / Yoshiwara please?

Ok, I had to see what this place was all about:[url]http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/[/url]Their map on the website has it wrong, it's actually one block WEST of the building being pointed to. It's in the building which is labeled #36 on google maps.There is some kind of guide or map of the area on a board on the Southwest corner of this building. The entrance is around the corner, on the west side of the building. It's got a big sign above matching the symbols on the website. Entrance is here, going upstairs to the second floor:[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=35.695883,139.702256&spn=0.003655,0.008942&sll=35.694376,139.702497&sspn=0.003673,0.008942&oe=utf-8&radius=0.3&layer=seec&panoid=iFPzWbltD5ai5Br0uqjVHg&cbp=12,88.29,,0,8.26&z=18&cbll=35.695972,139.702276[/url]A friendly tout leads you upstairs, you get to pick from the girls currently available now, or you could wait for the ones that were currently busy.I picked Moe for 40 minutes for 8, 000 yen. She is about 10 years older than the picture but still not to bad, body was nice and slim, I'd give her a 5-6.[url]http://www.hinomaru-caba.com/girls/g_moe.jpg[/url]Best thing about her, she spoke enough English and had a really great, winning personality, and that makes up for a lot. I didn't see any super good looking girls either on the menu or walking around the place.The bar is laid out like a school bus. A row of booths running down each side of the room, with a low divider with plants running down the middle between the rows.You are seated and then offered a drink. The girl starts out wearing a short dress and panties. The top of the dress comes down, the panties come off, allowing you access. She lowers your pants, gets to work, and then 40 minutes later (in my case) leads you down the stairs to say goodbye.

To pay my dues and help others who have helped me over the years, I swore I'd explore some uncharted territory on this trip.Everywhere within a few blocks of the Kanda station, there are pink fluorescent signs out on the street with prices listed. I figured on my last day in Tokyo, I better check these things out.The later it gets at night, especially after the trains stop running, there are a bunch of older Chinese women touting a "massage" all over the place here.This particular tale takes place near the Southwest exit, a block directly behind the Burger King which is visible from the train. Here is the Burger King:[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=35.69182,139.770604&spn=0.001828,0.004471&sll=35.691184,139.770411&sspn=0.001828,0.004471&radius=0.15&z=19&layer=c&cbll=35.691931,139.770653&panoid=1DHgY0gXJXUwRurRK1VBJA&cbp=12,270.65,,0,4.05[/url]If you walk out the Southwest exit of the Kanda station, visible the next street over there is an adult "DVD BOOK" store with a big yellow sign.Walking a block or two north of the "DVD BOOK" store on the same street, I believe it is the rounded looking building with stairs going up to the upper floors:[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=35.692025,139.770059&spn=0.001836,0.004471&sll=35.691184,139.770411&sspn=0.001828,0.004471&radius=0.15&z=19&layer=c&cbll=35.691957,139.770089&panoid=0UWy34RO-q_gXVakn0c27Q&cbp=12,272.54,,0,-0.13[/url]The sign might have said something about "Rose" massage. Anyway, what caught my attention was a CUTE young Chinese tout, offering me a massage. I asked her if I could choose the girl, see her face first, she said yes, so I decided to follow her up and check it out.The place was a flat divided up into sections by curtains. I took off my shoes and sat down, was given a menu which included an hour massage for 6, 000, or you could pay up to 21, 000 for the full meal deal.I was actually kind of tired and had just blown my load at Hinomaru, so I opted for just the massage. I was shown the girls, some Chinese girl came out from behind a curtain where she had been fooling around with some guy (boyfriend, owner)? Also there was a korean girl with a really pretty face, and a little thicker body, she looked like she was built to give a really good massage. After making sure the cute little tout herself would not give a massage (damn) I picked the Korean girl.I was led to the back into an actual room with a door, I guess all the curtains are to keep customers from seeing each other while navigating through the place. I took off my clothes and got on the bed, and she started in on the massage. As I expected, she was really strong and was doing a good job.While she was in a convenient position, I figured what the hell, and my hands started to wander. I discovered that under her short dress, she was not wearing any panties! Well, after about 30 minutes of massaging and wandering hands, she kept asking if I wanted anything else, like sex for an extra 15, 000. I kept saying, I was too tired, I just wanted the massage. She seemed a little disappointed, and kept asking, and the price kept getting lower and lower. She whipped out a calculator to show me, I could just pay 9, 000 extra (for a total of 15, 000 for the massage plus happy ending) which I agreed to.She took the money, checked in with the manager, came back with some towels. She gave me a plastic bag with a zipper to store my wallet in while we went into the bathroom. She stripped down and cleaned me off, gave me some mouthwash, led me back to the bedroom while she cleaned herself off. Came back in and started with kissing, BBBJ, then on with one of my condoms for the rest.Afterwards, back to the shower, then I got dressed while she cleaned off. I gave her a 1, 000 tip which she seemed happy with.So, my advice for Kanda, shop around. There are a lot of touts and I didn't see them getting much business. Prices are negotiable. You could probably check out a place, check out the girls, negotiate a price, and move on to the next one if it doesn't work out. I think you should be able to get a price of 15,000 or lower anywhere in this area.

[QUOTE=Taratata;1169147]Good to know. I went to One of the two a couple of weeks back. Took the 90 minutes course and been serviced by Kana. First experience there too. It was great, GFE and all that but only one pop. Glad to read that two pops may be on the menu. Maybe it was because she is new. I will go there again and see if I can two out this time![/QUOTE]I've tried many of the girls there for many years and Asami was the only one that let me pop twice. And these were all 2 hour courses too.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1167210]A general question to all of you living there, regarding the ususal sentence " a little japanese speaking may be required". I am about to reach the lowest level (5) of JLPT. Is this level considered enough under the heading "little Japanese required"?[/QUOTE]Usually "japanese speaking required" means that the owners are afraid gaijins won't understand the rules properly, like "you cannot touch the girl" or "no FS". I guess you'd better check / have a japanese speaking friend check those rules on the website and then make sure the owners understands that you're okay with those."I cannot XXX, understood" = XXX &12399; &65326; &65319; (or &12480; &12513. &65292; &20998; &12426; &12414; &12375; &12383; (XXX wa NG (or dame) , wakarimashita)" and nod politely.XXX being &12479; &12483; &12481; ("tacchi", you cannot touch the girl) , &26412; &30058; ("honban", you cannot get FS) etc.If you do that with a smile and stay polite all the time and then you still cannot get in, that means the place is not that gaijin-friendly and then I suggest you look somewhere else.So the question is, can you do that with a JLPT level 5? I'm not sure but that doesn't seem impossible.JaredPS: I can't get my japanese characters shown up correctly. Using Chrome and UTF-8...

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1169795]Usually "japanese speaking required" means that the owners are afraid gaijins won't understand the rules properly, like "you cannot touch the girl" or "no FS". I guess you'd better check / have a japanese speaking friend check those rules on the website and then make sure the owners understands that you're okay with those.

"I cannot XXX, understood" = XXX &12399; &65326; &65319; (or &12480; &12513. &65292; &20998; &12426; &12414; &12375; &12383; (XXX wa NG (or dame) , wakarimashita)" and nod politely.

XXX being &12479; &12483; &12481; ("tacchi", you cannot touch the girl) , &26412; &30058; ("honban", you cannot get FS) etc.

If you do that with a smile and stay polite all the time and then you still cannot get in, that means the place is not that gaijin-friendly and then I suggest you look somewhere else.

So the question is, can you do that with a JLPT level 5? I'm not sure but that doesn't seem impossible.

Jared.

PS: I can't get my japanese characters shown up correctly. Using Chrome and UTF-8. [/QUOTE]Thanks, this confirms what I thought, I. E. That JLPT 5 is more than enough, as long as you demonstrate the right attitude. With JLPT 5 you are able to converse using basic grammar and vocabulary. One just need to add a few words, since JLPT vocabulary does not necessary include words like Honban, BJ or Af etc. I can imagine the face of my fellow students / teachers, if I was asking for such words.

[QUOTE=Taratata;1168712]In my limited experience, the 60 minutes course does not include matplay. Maybe because I did not ask. I had to go back and go for the 80 minutes course. I wonder what the 100 minutes course is like, but at 40k at fantasy I'll have to think twice before going for it.[/QUOTE]. That the 60 min does not include matplay. The 80 min does, but, in my case, I had to ask my girl to do it. She happily did it, but would not have offered it if I had not asked.

And yes, I also do not see what the 100 min would bring in addition to the 80, except, obviously 20 more minutes for chatting / hugging. . I don't know if youy can have 2 pops, wotrth asking in advance if that's what you want. And yes again, the prices mentionned include the Gaijin tax.

[QUOTE=BobFoot; 1168616]Hi All,

Thanks for all the useful information. I've read this forum back and forth and learned a lot. I'm currently staying in Shinjuku and I want to try my first soapland experience tomorrow. It seems a lot of people like Fantasy (previously Kings) but I also see it seems to be a bit far away. Are there any good soaplands close to Shinjuku that will take an english only asian? FYI, not sure if this matters as they usually have variety of girls but I prefer younger, petite girls.

I found some reviews on tokyopinkguide. Com but none of the soaplands seem to have good ratings.

Also, I think I know the answer but I'll ask anyway. Since it's my first time I'm assuming I should get at least 80 min, probably 100 min to experience everything. Or maybe I should go for 60 to see if I like it at all and try again later. .

BF[/QUOTE]Take the Yamomote line from Shinjuku, and you will be near Yoshiwara within less than 20 minutes. Make your booking on the phone, and they will indicate to you the process, which includes being dropped from and to the station by courtesy car. Can't be easier. Very close indeed. If this is your first visit to Tokyo, I think it is worth the 27000 k to experiment the 80 min soapland in a propoer place in yoshiwara.

I happened upon this place through an esute website [url]http://www.o-venus.com/top.htm[/url] I decided to try the place out because the language used on the website suggested that this is an FS esute. And it is. Basically you go to Sugamo station on the Yamanote line, then phone the store up and the manager will give you directions to the shop, which is on the 5th floor above a yakitori restaurant. Immediately after the elevator doors open you'll see the front desk, the manager, and a price list. The prices are almost unbelievable with a 40 minute course running 6500 yen all included and a 70 minute course running for just 7900 yen! I opted for the 70 minute course because it was barely any more expensive than the 40 minute course.It was fairly busy when I showed up and the manager didn't even show me any pictures to choose from because many other people had made reservations and only one girl didn't require a massive wait; I wasn't even told her name. I was then led into an incredibly small room with another customer in it, and waited for 5 minutes. I was then waved into a small room with a small bed by a slightly chubby but cute Chinese girl (I think all the girls at the shop are Chinese). The girl was very chatty and had excellent Japanese and definitely gave a GFE. She doesn't seem to be listed on the website at all, so I assume she takes care of walk ins. I chatted with the girl first, then a shower, and then back to the small room and straight to business (Full body licking, light kissing, BBBJ, and CFS). The walls are pretty thin because they're not real walls, so you can clearly hear the couple next door going at it, and they most likely can hear you going at it. The girl gave pretty good service and I definitely felt like I was with a girlfriend rather than with a tired out fuzoku worker especially since she would try and chat in between action. After I finished round one, we went for another shower and then back into the room. I was served some tea, chatted with the girl a bit more and then received a decent massage from her. We cuddled for a bit then went for round 2 (70 minute and up courses are two pops) , unfortunately we chatted a bit too long before round 2 and I wasn't able to get pop 2 in time, but overall it was a very nice experience. I will definitely go again considering how reasonable the price is.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1169837]I happened upon this place through an esute website.

[url]http://www.o-venus.com/top.htm[/url]

I decided to try the place out because the language used on the website suggested that this is an FS esute. And it is. Basically you go to Sugamo station on the Yamanote line, then phone the store up and the manager will give you directions to the shop, which is on the 5th floor above a yakitori restaurant. Immediately after the elevator doors open you'll see the front desk, the manager, and a price list. The prices are almost unbelievable with a 40 minute course running 6500 yen all included and a 70 minute course running for just 7900 yen! I opted for the 70 minute course because it was barely any more expensive than the 40 minute course.

It was fairly busy when I showed up and the manager didn't even show me any pictures to choose from because many other people had made reservations and only one girl didn't require a massive wait; I wasn't even told her name. I was then led into an incredibly small room with another customer in it, and waited for 5 minutes. I was then waved into a small room with a small bed by a slightly chubby but cute Chinese girl (I think all the girls at the shop are Chinese). The girl was very chatty and had excellent Japanese and definitely gave a GFE. She doesn't seem to be listed on the website at all, so I assume she takes care of walk ins. I chatted with the girl first, then a shower, and then back to the small room and straight to business (Full body licking, light kissing, BBBJ, and CFS). The walls are pretty thin because they're not real walls, so you can clearly hear the couple next door going at it, and they most likely can hear you going at it. The girl gave pretty good service and I definitely felt like I was with a girlfriend rather than with a tired out fuzoku worker especially since she would try and chat in between action. After I finished round one, we went for another shower and then back into the room. I was served some tea, chatted with the girl a bit more and then received a decent massage from her. We cuddled for a bit then went for round 2 (70 minute and up courses are two pops) , unfortunately we chatted a bit too long before round 2 and I wasn't able to get pop 2 in time, but overall it was a very nice experience. I will definitely go again considering how reasonable the price is. [/QUOTE]Sounds good. Sorry for the (obvious) question; how much Japanese needed?

[QUOTE=Dreams;1169881]Sounds good. Sorry for the (obvious) question; how much Japanese needed?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I have no idea. I'm assuming you need to know enough to get directions to the place. I wouldn't recommend just showing up magically without being given directions because the manager seemed a bit shocked by the fact that I didn't make a reservation, and I'd imagine the manager would have been really perplexed if a first timer just showed up at the door without even calling in advance.

I went to one of the Hote-Heru shops advertised in the Erolin Guide a couple of weekends ago. This is SMILE in Shibuya:[url]http://sibuya-smile.com/index_top[/url]Very easy to find, in Dogenzaka. From the Hachiko Exit of Shibuya station walk to the department store and then take the road to the left of this. Stay on the same side as the department store and there will be a road turning to the right with many restaurants etc. Keep walking PAST this small road until there is another road on the right, this time a shopping arcade. Pretty easy to spot, as there is a gate over the top of the road with the name of the shopping arcade written on it. You should see a pet shop just as U-turn on to this shopping alley from the main road. Keep walking for a short while until you a Lawson convenience store, and the entrance to the shop is on a little road just to the left of this. There is a map on the site here:[url]http://sibuya-smile.com/system[/url]The shop is not marked out as 'SMILE', but has some curtains covering the entrance area instead of a door. When I went inside it basically looked like a little information booth, with one tout sitting behind the counter. He welcomed me and I told him that I'd found the place through the Erolin site. He didn't know what this was, but another staff guy sitting behind him just about remembered that they had advertised on that site. So I guess they probably don't receive a huge stream of 'gaijin' customers on a daily basis, but perhaps a trickle. I am not sure what the service would be like if they receive a non-Japanese speaking gaijin (I am from the England but of Indian descent, but speak Japanese well).Anyway, the guy took out some photos of Today's Girls, around 6 or 7 of these. If you look at the page with the girls on the site, you will see that there are over a 100 listed. But I think a few only work very limited periods, so only a small number I'm guessing at any one time. Also, as the tout told me later on, only some of the girls are open to gaijin as well. Unfortunately from these few, most were available in another 2 or 3 hours time. It was just after midday on a Sunday and I had another appointment a couple of hours later, so couldn't hang around. Only a couple of the girls were available immediately, so I went for a 26 year old girl called Yuko (check out the profile on the site).The tout then explained the system and I chose the 50 minutes option. I handed over my 15k Yen and he gave me a points card to use, carefully explaining that this is not an FS place. Then as I am a first timer, he walked with me personally to one of the nearby love hotels (this is a service to all the first time users). The hotel in question was quite small and grubby, but the tout did explain that. There is a choice anyway, to upgrade to a nice hotel if required. I handed over my 3k to the love hotel and went up to one of the rooms.After a few minutes wait, Yuko knocked and came in. Her face on the site is blurred, but it was the same girl. Actually quite cute. I am sure all of the photos on the site are legit. We chatted for a short while, she showered with me and then got down to business. BBBJ, handjob and allowed me to do 69 with her (fully shaved!). Actually she liked it so much she asked me to give more oral and I happily obliged a second time. Yuko had a very sexy body, curvy and with soft, smooth skin and firm, medium sized breasts. I really felt like asking for 'honban', but didn't want to spoil things given that it was my first time with that particular shop. I can't usually come too easily with just a BBBJ so she finished me off with a handjob. I told her afterwards that I don't usually come with just a blowjob, so she said that maybe 'sumata' could've been better.We showered again and chatted for a while. She was a very sweet girl, from Saitama and doing this to earn some extra money. I asked her if she gets many foreign customers and she said a small number. I spoke with her in Japanese only, but switched to English and she could speak a little bit. Would be a good option to ask for if you want to try that establishment but cannot speak Japanese. When we parted she gave me the usual 'meishi' with the shop's contact details. All in all, a pleasant hour or so with an attractive young lady. Not bad for Sunday lunch! Looks: 7.Body: 8.Service: 7.Try Again? : Yes

[QUOTE=OldGeezer; 1168963]I have visited similar place in Kabukicho called Vivianite.[url]http://www.vivianite-s.com/[/url][/QUOTE]I tried this place too. Paid 8, 000 yen for 1 hour (basic massage) , the girl (Mimi) was fairly cute and cuddled a lot. I had a nice surprise when after 35 minutes she put her hand inside my paper pants and started playing with my balls & penis.Not-so-nice surprise when it turned out that she was literally "playing" with them, like "what if I squeeze them / pull on it / twist it / fold your scrotum in half".Nothing sadomasochist here, just that she is probably not much experienced.I tried to explain that there were 2 ways to "play" (one that can give me pleasure and one that can send me to the hospital) , and that I tend to have a preference for the first one. Gave her some guidance but that didn't really work. She would do it for a couple of seconds and then stop and start again with the squeezing and pulling.And she wouldn't let me touch her.Moral of the story: no touching at all is better than poor touching.Will I go again? Not sure. Maybe it was only this girl and I could get luckier with other ones. Please share your stories.J

[QUOTE=Little Jared;1170308]Maybe it was only this girl and I could get luckier with other ones. Please share your stories.J[/QUOTE]I have been in Vivianite now three times in the last year. Also once in similar establishment in Kawasaki. Those experiencies plus the reports in Japanese sites tell me you will not get lucky in these places.

One Japanese guy put it quite bluntly in his report: "I believe people who enjoy this kind of places are the same ones who go to hostess clubs". In other words paying a lot of money gets you an erotic experience but you can still go home to wifey with no remorse.

I was wondering if any of our fellow mongers have had the services of either of these two Japanese ladies on CL? Been communicating with them trying to find out what's included in their services. While I'm not expecting FS, I hope there's a happy ending. Thanks in advance.Name: "Mofako"Price: 10, 000 / hour.[url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/w4m/2462752280.html[/url]Name: Masumi.Price: 10, 000/90min. (5, 000 for first timer) [url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ths/2463324988.html[/url]

[QUOTE=OldGeezer;1170320]Those experiencies plus the reports in Japanese sites tell me you will not get lucky in these places.[/QUOTE]Sorry I got you confused. By "getting lucky" I didn't mean necessarily happy ending.

I considered myself lucky at Whitebeach because of the erotic session and gorgeous girl (see post #8295) but not at Vivianite since the girl was just playing with my balls as a cat would do with a dead snake.

It is true you have to be into this to enjoy a session at those places. But I don't really agree that those who enjoy this are the same who go to kabakura since I don't see the erotic of it. Or I just went to shitty ones.

Hi All, I don't know what happened to my original review but I see it was never posted so here it is again. I decided to try out Fantasy soapland after all the positive reviews. I was a bit apprehensive because I speak virtually zero Japanese. However, I found as long as you have the will, there is a way.I called the number to let them know I was coming and double check gaijins were ok. The guy that answered spoke almost no english. I asked "gaijin ok" to which he replied "ok". However after that we were sort of at an impasse. So what I finally did was tell him where I was currently like "Harajuku". He then got excited and said a bunch of stuff. Luckily I had read the forum and knew they were near Uguisudani so I took the train there and called them. This time an english speaker answered and he said something like "4 minutes". Even though he spoke english somehow we didn't have a memorable conversation or explanation. Anyway I waited. After about 10 minutes when I was getting nervous and scanning every car that arrived I spotted a car that flicked its headlights. I walked over and the driver said "fantasy" to which I nodded. I entered the car and off we went. On the way we picked up another person.At Fantasy they showed me a list of prices and times in english. Easy there. 80 minutes 27k. Then a few photos. They pointed to one in the middle saying "new face" meaning new girl. I decided what the hell I'll do it and picked her. Turns out it was Hazuki who is on the webpage.After waiting a few minutes in the waiting room I was introduced to her and brought up to the room. She's about 5'6" or so and average body size. Like not one of those super skinny girls and not fat. Attractive IMO but not super hot. She spoke very little english and we got by on gestures and simple words.I'll skip to the important point. Multiple pops ok. Also, even though I followed her script I feel I could have requested minor changes if desired, like more time on pump up mattress or mat time etc.All in all, had a good time and would recommend soapland to newbies.

[QUOTE=BobFoot; 1170696]Hi All, I don't know what happened to my original review but I see it was never posted so here it is again. I decided to try out Fantasy soapland after all the positive reviews. I was a bit apprehensive because I speak virtually zero Japanese. However, I found as long as you have the will, there is a way.I called the number to let them know I was coming and double check gaijins were ok. The guy that answered spoke almost no english. I asked "gaijin ok" to which he replied "ok". However after that we were sort of at an impasse. So what I finally did was tell him where I was currently like "Harajuku". He then got excited and said a bunch of stuff. Luckily I had read the forum and knew they were near Uguisudani so I took the train there and called them. This time an english speaker answered and he said something like "4 minutes". Even though he spoke english somehow we didn't have a memorable conversation or explanation. Anyway I waited. After about 10 minutes when I was getting nervous and scanning every car that arrived I spotted a car that flicked its headlights. I walked over and the driver said "fantasy" to which I nodded. I entered the car and off we went. On the way we picked up another person.At Fantasy they showed me a list of prices and times in english. Easy there. 80 minutes 27k. Then a few photos. They pointed to one in the middle saying "new face" meaning new girl. I decided what the hell I'll do it and picked her. Turns out it was Hazuki who is on the webpage.After waiting a few minutes in the waiting room I was introduced to her and brought up to the room. She's about 5'6" or so and average body size. Like not one of those super skinny girls and not fat. Attractive IMO but not super hot. She spoke very little english and we got by on gestures and simple words.I'll skip to the important point. Multiple pops ok. Also, even though I followed her script I feel I could have requested minor changes if desired, like more time on pump up mattress or mat time etc.All in all, had a good time and would recommend soapland to newbies.[/QUOTE]Bob, thanks so much for your review, very helpfull. Next month I will stop in Tokyo too, and try to visit Fantasy, so I will post my exp.Coyote

Hi folks, Has anyone been here? [url]http://www.mscrea.net/[/url]I can confirm that they allow gaijins without a problem, and without much Japanese. I went and got a normal back massage for 2500 yen. I'm wondering if anyone out there has been there and can relate what course they got and what it cost. Or can decode the menu! Here's the menu (I got the option at top) :[url]http://www.mscrea.net/course/[/url]I can read that the options are massage, aroma massage, and ear massage. I guess what I'm wondering is if this place is 100% without extras, or. ?

[QUOTE=Coyoteloco; 1170832]Bob, thanks so much for your review, very helpfull. Next month I will stop in Tokyo too, and try to visit Fantasy, so I will post my exp.Coyote[/QUOTE]Don't forget to go to the South exit.

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude; 1170616]I was wondering if any of our fellow mongers have had the services of either of these two Japanese ladies on CL? Been communicating with them trying to find out what's included in their services. While I'm not expecting FS, I hope there's a happy ending. Thanks in advance.

Name: "Mofako"

Price: 10, 000 / hour.

[url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/w4m/2462752280.html[/url]

Name: Masumi.

Price: 10, 000/90min. (5, 000 for first timer)

[url]http://tokyo.craigslist.jp/ths/2463324988.html[/url][/QUOTE]I decided to TOFTT, so I have a massage 'date' set up with Masumi for next week. I will let you know what is (and isn't) included after the session.

Manta Ray

Couple of weeks ago I visited Jan Jan in Sugamo, but didn't think of reporting, as it's pretty common knowledge here. (BTW, I was charged 4000 at 9:30-10PM, is that the normal price?) However, there's some information that might be relevant: since it was a spontaneous decision, I we unprepared, and didn't quite know the location. So I got out to the wrong side of the station, and started looking around. Occasionally, I'd ask touts in front of shops about JanJan. At least one of them invited me in his club, even with my crappy lvl 5 Japanese. I asked what kind of club it is (price listed outside was 3-5k I think) , and he said it's fuzoku, but I didn't understand the rest. I was in a hurry, because it was starting to rain, but now I feel bad for not trying it out.So if anybody with better nihongo wants to do some exploring, there might be some gaijin friendly places on the other side of Sugamo station.

Hi everyone, it was been a long time since I posted anything cause my work is crazy demanding.After two years, and a recent trip to Guangzhou changed all my perspective of doing business in tokyo.Soapland always fun, lots new girls to check out and always got the excellent service as long the money is good. Korean or Chinese massage can be nice, but never got the GFE and rarely the FS. Only one I have found was in Takadanobaba called purple and something. All of them feel rushed and service varies a lot from each girls. Japanese fuzoku are pretty much in the middle. Usually went to the shibuya grimper and couple others. (I speak some japanese and my looks are asian). Around 60% of time, I got FS after I asked the girls nicely. But come on, I have to pay 15, 000 for a hour and 2, 000 more for the hotel while soapland just couple thousand yen more but garanteed with FS. And one time I got one of the girls from grimper mad when we were having a conversation. We were talking about futures and dreams, she said she wants to open her own business, then I asked what kind? Then suddenly she got mad and thinks its too private and I am not worthy to hear about it. WTF.Girls bars, happening bars can be fun, but you have to pick your moments. Don't expect too much and I can only go like a Friday night. After a while, just don't feel like to go by myself.Now here is the biggest, best, and cheapest service I got for the 10 years of having fun. Was at guangzhou last month for a business meeting. Before I went, my coworker told me I had to check out this place, all my fantasy will come true. So I did followed his instruction, called the number, told I was coming, what type of girls I wanted. Took a cab there from my hotel around 9PM in less then 30 mins. Its another hotel. 20 stories high. I will spare the details since this is the forum for Tokyo. Total damage is 800 RMB which just under 10, 000 yen. Best looking Chinese girl I ever had. Provided 30 positions for me to tryout which I didn't know half of them. 3 pops in 2 hours, and cleaned my rectum by using her tongue, not feeling gay or anything but a new high for me.After that, tokyo is just not the same for me. So here I what I want for the follow readers, if you have a story can top this one, please reply. If you want the details and direction for that hotel, just ask.

[QUOTE=Smith Ed; 1171018]H Total damage is 800 RMB which just under 10, 000 yen. Best looking Chinese girl I ever had. Provided 30 positions for me to tryout which I didn't know half of them. 3 pops in 2 hours, and cleaned my rectum by using her tongue, not feeling gay or anything but a new high for me.After that, tokyo is just not the same for me. So here I what I want for the follow readers, if you have a story can top this one, please reply. If you want the details and direction for that hotel, just ask.[/QUOTE]I've been to China a few times and have enjoyed the local flavor. I have to say those "sauna" do provide much better services at a much cheaper price, actually, in Donguan, something similar to your experience would run between 300 to 400RMB depending on the girl, they lineup and have different prices often based on their height over their look. But all are young and pretty!

[QUOTE=X Tamron;1171081]I've been to China a few times and have enjoyed the local flavor. I have to say those "sauna" do provide much better services at a much cheaper price, actually, in Donguan, something similar to your experience would run between 300 to 400RMB depending on the girl, they lineup and have different prices often based on their height over their look. But all are young and pretty![/QUOTE]I know right? The thing is, the one was higher than the Dongguan ones because they paid to the local authority and won't get any surprise check every month while others do. Mine was only 21 years old and had a body like a model. Wow memory.

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1170990]I decided to TOFTT, so I have a massage 'date' set up with Masumi for next week. I will let you know what is (and isn't) included after the session.Manta Ray[/QUOTE]Same here. I've decided to book with Masumi for next week as well. Let's compare notes!

[QUOTE=Smith Ed;1171018]After that, tokyo is just not the same for me. So here I what I want for the follow readers, if you have a story can top this one, please reply.[/QUOTE]For Tokyo the best price / quality-ratios I know are 10k for GFE style FS though the girls are not Japanese but good looking and young Taiwanese and 8k for an hour of good massage with happy ending by Chinese girls.

Some years ago there used to be HJ / BJ places with young Japanese girls for 3-4k but nowadays I feel these are not worth visiting anymore as the level of the providers has gone down even faster than their age has gone up.

Outside Tokyo, but still almost in Japan as in Okinawa you can get an hour in soapland for 10k.

My favorite location for mongering is Angeles City in Philippines as the number of girls and the price levels cannot be beaten with Bangkok as a close second with higher prices but more varied services.

[QUOTE=OldGeezer;1171125]For Tokyo the best price / quality-ratios I know are 10k for GFE style FS though the girls are not Japanese but good looking and young Taiwanese[/QUOTE]Can you share the location or url of this place by taiwanese? Might as well to check it out and keep it as a backup. Appreciated if you do.

There are many if you are willing to do the legwork.You just need to check the fuzoku reference sites.I use this one:

[url]http://a-side.com/esthe1a.html[/url]

It just takes some collecting of locations and then going there to see what they have.The section in the link above is mostly Chinese but some Korean places, too, depending on the location.You can use google translate to help decipher if you can't read the Japanese.

[QUOTE=Smith Ed;1171349]Can you share the location or url of this place by taiwanese? Might as well to check it out and keep it as a backup.Appreciated if you do.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Homer69; 1171413]There are many if you are willing to do the legwork.You just need to check the fuzoku reference sites.I use this one:[url]http://a-side.com/esthe1a.html[/url]It just takes some collecting of locations and then going there to see what they have.The section in the link above is mostly Chinese but some Korean places, too, depending on the location.You can use google translate to help decipher if you can't read the Japanese.[/QUOTE]Awsome dude, thanks a lot and I do read japanese and Chinese and some korean. Now just need to find out which one offers the cheapest FS there. Which you did you used from this list?

I don't really like FS with Chinese and Korean places. I prefer soaps for that. I go to Chinese and Korean places to save money only. The places on a-side come and go. Your favorite place might be gone next month. That's what I meant by doing legwork. Even if you find a place it may close up or change ownership.

[QUOTE=Smith Ed;1171418]Awsome dude, thanks a lot and I do read japanese and Chinese and some korean. Now just need to find out which one offers the cheapest FS there. Which you did you used from this list?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Homer69; 1171413]There are many if you are willing to do the legwork. You just need to check the fuzoku reference sites. I use this one:

[url]http://a-side.com/esthe1a.html[/url]

It just takes some collecting of locations and then going there to see what they have. The section in the link above is mostly Chinese but some Korean places, too, depending on the location. You can use google translate to help decipher if you can't read the Japanese.[/QUOTE]That link opens up to the page for non-fuzoku este. Click on the tab for asian fuzoku este.

[QUOTE=Smith Ed;1171018]After that, tokyo is just not the same for me.[/QUOTE]If you think China is amazing, just try Thailand. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Does anyone have SKy in Nippori URL?

They are almost all hand or mouth finish. The ones in Kanda, Otsuka and Takadanobaba are for sure.

[QUOTE=Cuty Suzuki;1171624]That link opens up to the page for non-fuzoku este. Click on the tab for asian fuzoku este.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=juunbug25;1171748]Does anyone have SKy in Nippori URL?[/QUOTE]Are you talking about this place? [url]http://www.star-es.com/info.html[/url]

[QUOTE=juunbug25;1171748]Does anyone have SKy in Nippori URL?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.star-es.com/[/url]

Long time read first time poster.I thought it was about time I gave something back to the community after using all the info that people have shared over the years.In my search for big tit fuzoku places I came across this place.[url]http://1919ikebukuro.com/[/url]I remember reading that they were open to non-Japanese if you spoke the language so I thought I'd give them a try.Glad I did! I found the place with no problem. The directions on the site are near idiot proof. Just the very last part gave me pause because I hadn't realized that the elevator was a bit further back in the building.Went up to the 5th floor and into the office with no trouble and the guy at the counter was all smiles and hellos. A nice welcome compared to many of the places I've been.He laid out the pictures of who was available and I chose Aya because I thought she had the cutest smile (along with a nice sized pair of titties of course). And paid my 20000 beans for 75 min.Now up to this point I don't think a person who is language deficient would have too much of a problem fudging it but you then have to decide which hotel in the local area to meet the girl and the guy gives you directions. I speak fairly well but when people rattle away right out of the gate I can sometimes get brain freeze. No worries there, he kept things simple and double checked that I understood the directions to the hotel. That said if you have a rough time following directions in Japanese you may run into trouble here.As I was leaving the building I took the stairs and couldn't help but notice that there was a little Fuzoku shop on every floor all with the doors open for customers to just walk in. The guys in a few of the places waved at me. This may be an adventure for next time.Left the building and walked up the block to the hotel. It was about 200 meters away and on the same street so getting lost was almost impossible.Walked in and went up to the counter and got a room for 2 hours at 2500 yen.After getting up to the room I gave the shop a call and told them my room number and they told me that Aya would be there in a couple of minutes. Sure enough in 5 min there was a discreet knock on the door and I let her in.She was a bit chunkier than the pictures in the shop and on the website had let on but not in a bad way. It was that cute chubby. Now if you're into skinny girls this might not be the shop for you because the reviews on some of the Japanese sites also say most of the girls are packing some extra lbs. But I was very satisfied. And her big titties were niiiiiiice! We got undressed and into the shower and she was very friendly the whole time, asking me about my day and how I was doing. It felt more like meeting up with a girlfriend really.Out of the shower we jumped on the bed and got down to business. Lots of kissing and fondling and 2pops over the course of the our time together. The first one from her great BBBJ and the second from a paizuri that rocked my world.All in all very much worth it!

Sweet!

I wonder how a zen-zen Japanese speaker like myself would get on.

Do you happen to remember the name of the hotel? If I knew that I'm pretty confident I could bluster my way through the entire process.

[QUOTE=StuntRunner06; 1172150]Long time read first time poster.

I thought it was about time I gave something back to the community after using all the info that people have shared over the years.

In my search for big tit fuzoku places I came across this place.

[url]http://1919ikebukuro.com/[/url]

I remember reading that they were open to non-Japanese if you spoke the language so I thought I'd give them a try.

Glad I did!

I found the place with no problem. The directions on the site are near idiot proof. Just the very last part gave me pause because I hadn't realized that the elevator was a bit further back in the building.

Went up to the 5th floor and into the office with no trouble and the guy at the counter was all smiles and hellos. A nice welcome compared to many of the places I've been.

He laid out the pictures of who was available and I chose Aya because I thought she had the cutest smile (along with a nice sized pair of titties of course). And paid my 20000 beans for 75 min.

Now up to this point I don't think a person who is language deficient would have too much of a problem fudging it but you then have to decide which hotel in the local area to meet the girl and the guy gives you directions. I speak fairly well but when people rattle away right out of the gate I can sometimes get brain freeze. No worries there, he kept things simple and double checked that I understood the directions to the hotel. That said if you have a rough time following directions in Japanese you may run into trouble here.

As I was leaving the building I took the stairs and couldn't help but notice that there was a little Fuzoku shop on every floor all with the doors open for customers to just walk in. The guys in a few of the places waved at me. This may be an adventure for next time.

Left the building and walked up the block to the hotel. It was about 200 meters away and on the same street so getting lost was almost impossible.

Walked in and went up to the counter and got a room for 2 hours at 2500 yen.

After getting up to the room I gave the shop a call and told them my room number and they told me that Aya would be there in a couple of minutes. Sure enough in 5 min there was a discreet knock on the door and I let her in.

She was a bit chunkier than the pictures in the shop and on the website had let on but not in a bad way. It was that cute chubby. Now if you're into skinny girls this might not be the shop for you because the reviews on some of the Japanese sites also say most of the girls are packing some extra lbs. But I was very satisfied. And her big titties were niiiiiiice!

We got undressed and into the shower and she was very friendly the whole time, asking me about my day and how I was doing. It felt more like meeting up with a girlfriend really.

Out of the shower we jumped on the bed and got down to business. Lots of kissing and fondling and 2pops over the course of the our time together. The first one from her great BBBJ and the second from a paizuri that rocked my world.

All in all very much worth it![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Backtobasics; 1172240]Sweet! I wonder how a zen-zen Japanese speaker like myself would get on.Do you happen to remember the name of the hotel? If I knew that I'm pretty confident I could bluster my way through the entire process.[/QUOTE]The name of the hotel was Stardust but it wasn't the only hotel they use. He showed me a map that had about 10-12 hotels on it and asked if I had a preference.They were all about the same price so I just picked the closest.One more thing I forgot to mention was that they had a costume service where you can choose between several outfits for the girl to wear. It was free but after I had to carry the costume in a black vinyl laundry bag to the hotel and Aya took it with her after we'd finished.If you're a bit worried about keeping things on the DL the you might want to pass as it does make you rather conspicuous especially during the day.One more thing, they have two sister sites that have MILFs. Think I might try one of them next time.

[QUOTE=Backtobasics; 1172240]Sweet!

I wonder how a zen-zen Japanese speaker like myself would get on.

Do you happen to remember the name of the hotel? If I knew that I'm pretty confident I could bluster my way through the entire process.[/QUOTE]I have the same question for an "amari hanashimasen" speaker. And by the way, never came across "paizuri". Don't think I can run the risk to ask my young cute japanese teacher here in london.

[QUOTE=juunbug25;1171748]Does anyone have SKy in Nippori URL?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.star-es.com/[/url]

And while you are in Nippori you can also try out these other KMPs.

Hikari.

[url]http://n-hikari.com/index.php[/url]

Smile.

[url]http://n-smile.net/index_pc.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Dreams;1172422]I have the same question for an "amari hanashimasen" speaker. And by the way, never came across "paizuri". Don't think I can run the risk to ask my young cute japanese teacher here in london.[/QUOTE]That is a delicacy what we do not get to enjoy that much here in Tokyo. Pai as in oppai and for the languagically challenged we have Jim Breen's site, isn't it meant just for this kind of situation?

[url]http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/[/url] [url]jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?9T[/url] Tels that &12497; &12452; &21047; &12426; (paizuri) is (and) (col) (vulg) breast fucking; ejaculation between or on breasts; titty fuck; ED

[QUOTE=Backtobasics; 1172240]Sweet! I wonder how a zen-zen Japanese speaker like myself would get on.Do you happen to remember the name of the hotel? If I knew that I'm pretty confident I could bluster my way through the entire process.[/QUOTE]The name of the hotel was Stardust. But it wasn't the only hotel they use. He showed me a list and a map and asked me if I had a preference. The prices were all pretty much the same so I just chose the closest.One more thing I forgot to mention was that there is a free costume service. There is a number of outfits you can choose from that the girl will wear.After I chose the guy in the office gave the outfit from out of a closet behind him and put it into a black vinyl laundry bag and gave it to me to carry to the hotel. After we finished up Aya took it with her.This wasn't much of a problem for me but it is rather conspicuous for someone trying to keep this on the DL. Especially during the day.Apparently Cutie bomb also has a sister site that specializes in MILFs. I think I just found me a new mission.

[url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10102/1102388/[/url]i haven't seen a report about this place for a while. its still open and is absolutely fine for foreigners as long as you can speak well enough to communicate with the girls.they have a few courses but the cheapest is y10, 000 for 1/2 hour. it's fashion health, so pretty much anything goes as long as you don't stick it in. the rooms are small, but clean with individual showers and mirrors all around. you don't have to leave the room for a shower which is a plus.i had the girl above. she basically did anything i asked and did it enthusiastically. i ended with a nice titty fuck as she had nice, big natural tits. she had a slight speech impediment, but was very friendly. i asked for a condom for the blow job and sumata, but took it off for the titty fuck. i think that she would have been fine without it.anyway, good location, cheap, good service, no hassles with a hotel and all the girls are japanese.

sorry, the link to the girls's page doesn't work now but her name is madoka.top link is here:[url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10102/[/url][quote=ben linus; 1172782][url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10102/1102388/[/url]i haven't seen a report about this place for a while. its still open and is absolutely fine for foreigners as long as you can speak well enough to communicate with the girls.they have a few courses but the cheapest is y10, 000 for 1/2 hour. it's fashion health, so pretty much anything goes as long as you don't stick it in. the rooms are small, but clean with individual showers and mirrors all around. you don't have to leave the room for a shower which is a plus.i had the girl above. she basically did anything i asked and did it enthusiastically. i ended with a nice titty fuck as she had nice, big natural tits. she had a slight speech impediment, but was very friendly. i asked for a condom for the blow job and sumata, but took it off for the titty fuck. i think that she would have been fine without it.anyway, good location, cheap, good service, no hassles with a hotel and all the girls are japanese.[/quote]

Anybody know anything about this place?

[url]http://www.ikebukuro-fantasy.com/girls/list/[/url]

Looks like it could be quite awesome.

Or this Pink Salon in Ueno where the (apparently quite attractive) providers wear sexy maid uniforms?

[url]http://ueno-idoling.jp/main.php[/url]

If I was in Tokyo at the moment I think I'd have to try this one, even with my non-existent Japanese.

[quote=ben linus; 1172782][url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10102/1102388/[/url]i haven't seen a report about this place for a while. its still open and is absolutely fine for foreigners as long as you can speak well enough to communicate with the girls.they have a few courses but the cheapest is y10, 000 for 1/2 hour. it's fashion health, so pretty much anything goes as long as you don't stick it in. the rooms are small, but clean with individual showers and mirrors all around. you don't have to leave the room for a shower which is a plus.i had the girl above. she basically did anything i asked and did it enthusiastically. i ended with a nice titty fuck as she had nice, big natural tits. she had a slight speech impediment, but was very friendly. i asked for a condom for the blow job and sumata, but took it off for the titty fuck. i think that she would have been fine without it.anyway, good location, cheap, good service, no hassles with a hotel and all the girls are japanese.[/quote]i've been to ebisu a couple times a few years ago, its very easy to access, near the station and near where i lived, the rooms with shower convenient as well, but i was unlucky the girls i had were not putting a lot of effort and fs was not provided, so i stopped going there. one even tried to negotiate fs for 1man more (she asked me, i didn't ask her.) i didn't really like that.i used to patronize another mxy shop in roppongi which no longer exists, and which was fantastic, inside an office building, very wide rooms, extremely nice girls (shino and sakura! i'd love to see them again!) , and the waiting room was very large with a wooden library and leather sofas! very high class, it must have been a very wild place during the bubble years and it kept some its shine still.also i've tried the one in shibuya (dogenzaka) once a long time ago, very young girl, but the next time i was not allowed in ("no gaijin") so i gave up. i was not allowed in the one in shimbashi as well (its very near to the very well famed supergirls)

[QUOTE=RomajiDake; 1166084]Good work on the Emotion / Dio map but it was what you mentioned after that sounded interesting. What was this FS place? Sounds bit suspect ? 2 cute Japanese girls were working as touts for this place hmm.You mind pointing that out on a map? [url]http://www.emotion.vc[/url][url]http://www.dio.bz[/url][/QUOTE]Well I still patronize quite often this place. I go there at noon time. One of the girls is fantastic with me, but another one is really Tsumetai with me, I don't know why.She's not opening her legs, just sucks me without listening to me, and just try to make me get off as quickly as possible, which is quite fast but she really sucks cock incredibly well, And I really enjoyed the first few times I had her.I went last week again around 5pm, it was really busy, with all 4 seats occupied, and it seemed a gaijin on the first one (maybe a forum reader.) The first girl I had was a bit chubby and newcomer, not really good, and the second one, a very petite japanese with a very silly voice, which would still wear tights (the only one) , and suck quickly without trying to give good service. Anyway I was pretty much aroused from the 1st one, so I came off delightfully in her mouth and she took it like a pro.I was a bit disappointed because I could see the other 2 girls (one of which I saw for the 1st time) and I really hoped I would get one of those 2, but I was unlucky this time. I think thats also part of the excitement when you go there! For 6000 yens for 2 girls, its really a good deal especially if you come to like the girls here (and if they like you!) Then I came back today again, but I wanted to try something new, so I RTFF, and found out a korean este, because all the ones I knew are far north (ueno, nippori otsuka etc.) Its called RAKU, [url]http://www.es-raku.com/[/url]Actually its easy to find, no need to phone to get there, if you look at the map on the site, there is a sign outside.I came around 5pm, it was busy, I only had the choice between 2 girls, looks like 6 are working at the time, and I could hear easily they were working (LOL).I chose the 85 mns course which included akasuri and massage, but that was not a good idea, the girl manoeuvred to delay the action so there was only 1 shot despite the time.And despite the tencho told me 2 shots ok. So next time, either be more directive with the girl, or take a cheaper 40mns or 60mns course thats much better.Seems no 3P course available rooms are too small.All girls are Korean, the one I had called herself Mimi, she was quite good looking actually and voluptuous, though she must be well in her 30s.She didn't put that much effort in the service alas, but I feel it could be much better next time if I see her again. (its often like that in this kind of shop.) All in all, I think its a good deal.For better looking girls and Japanese girls, why-fantasy in Yoshiwara I think is very good.Still I'd very much like to know a reliable and not too expensive shop with very good looking japanese girls which you don't meet directly in a hotel.Also is there a DH or other where AF is really possible? And 2M+1F with DP included? Thats the real stuff we need! Also still asking in this forum if anyone has been able to go to a swingers club? Or an este / soapland where you just pay and its FUKIHOUDAI! And you see everybody doing it! If this place doesn't exist, this must be a business opportunity!)

[QUOTE=Herpes; 1173229]Its called RAKU, [url]http://www.es-raku.com/[/url]Actually its easy to find, no need to phone to get there, if you look at the map on the site, there is a sign outside.I came around 5pm, it was busy, I only had the choice between 2 girls, looks like 6 are working at the time, and I could hear easily they were working (LOL).I chose the 85 mns course which included akasuri and massage, but that was not a good idea, the girl manoeuvred to delay the action so there was only 1 shot despite the time.And despite the tencho told me 2 shots ok. So next time, either be more directive with the girl, or take a cheaper 40mns or 60mns course thats much better.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great info on Raku- Since it is Korean Health, am I right in guessing it was it FS? Also, what was the damage? Around 11, 000?

So after going to Silk Happening Bar in Shinjuku a few times, it seems the place has now closed down.

It's no major loss. The last few times were mostly devoid of fruit, and it seemed it had turned into a place for "Sakura" to hang out, rather than a place to get laid.

Anyway, while investigating alternative happening bars, I came across the "hotel orgy". Whereas happening bars involve some negotiation, usually between the single guy and married couples, hotel orgies are all out sex romps, where a guy just asks a girl for a fuck, then fun and games commence.

Apparently they are getting shut down left, right and center, so I won't provide the name of the place (though they are easy to find if you search for "rankou party" in Japanese). Japanese language is necessary, as you have to deal with the guy running the show, and then you have to be able to communicate at the party itself.

The one I went to was 20, 000 yen for three hours. There were three girls and eight guys. If you engage with one girl, you have to shower before switching to another one. FS is covered, BJ is not. The girls keep pouring you alcoholic drinks, or whatever you please, as you talk to them between the fun. The three girls at this particular party were very well balanced. One very young, slim with a pretty flat chest. One in the middle with a nice rack. Then an older lady, with a lot more experience, and a pretty good body too.

If anyone has similar parties to share, by all means send me a message. I'm still on the look out for happening bars though, should any still exist.

[QUOTE=K1234K;1173252]Thanks for the great info on Raku- Since it is Korean Health, am I right in guessing it was it FS? Also, what was the damage? Around 11, 000?[/QUOTE]Yes FS is included, the girl rather passive which I didn't like much, and there was a (poor) CBJ as well, I guess I have to go more often to see if the service can get better. I feel it can, if she's in a better mood

[QUOTE=Herpes;1173424]Yes FS is included, the girl rather passive which I didn't like much, and there was a (poor) CBJ as well, I guess I have to go more often to see if the service can get better. I feel it can, if she's in a better mood[/QUOTE]Hi Guys.Very new to this forum so was wondering if I could get some good advice (I have read quite a lot of the forum already).I'm heading to Japan in a couple of months for a holiday with one of my mates for 2-3 weeks.I'm interested in maybe trying one of these soap lands / massage places, but I'm only after a BBBJ as opposed to FS.I've never had sex, let alone get a BJ in my life, so probably wouldn't even know what to do if the opportunity arose for the FS.Considering that these things aren't "fully safe", I'm not willing to take the risk.I guess my questions are: 1) Are there any massive risks (HIV etc) if your only receving a BJ? 2) What price range will I be looking at? And what places do you recommend for a good "sexual experience" without going all the way? Have quite a few things to ask and learn I guess (considering my lack of experience). So any advice would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.

Was on the Yamanote line passing through Nishi nippori and thought I would give Sopia ([url]http://sopiaeste.com/main.php[/url]) a call since they have a 50 min special for 7000 Yen before 5pm. The girls there are always very attractive with excellent bodies though faces naturally slightly off from the photos.

Had Momo this time. Regular shower / massage, naked BBBJ with hand release. Wouldn't have minded a little bit more interaction but I was more than happy.

The other week I also stopped by Takara Jenne ([url]http://www.takara-j.net/nippori/index.html[/url]) in Nippori though was rejected at the door for my gaijiness. There's a building next door with Onyanko (Chinese este) and a great Korean este which was having a good deal for 60 min at 9000 Yen. Hot girl and included FS. New-ish Japanese pink salon on an upper floor (AKB 48 special event!) though was rejected there as well.

[QUOTE=Fab489; 1173508]Hi Guys.Very new to this forum so was wondering if I could get some good advice (I have read quite a lot of the forum already).I'm heading to Japan in a couple of months for a holiday with one of my mates for 2-3 weeks.I'm interested in maybe trying one of these soap lands / massage places, but I'm only after a BBBJ as opposed to FS.I've never had sex, let alone get a BJ in my life, so probably wouldn't even know what to do if the opportunity arose for the FS.Considering that these things aren't "fully safe", I'm not willing to take the risk.I guess my questions are: 1) Are there any massive risks (HIV etc) if your only receving a BJ? 2) What price range will I be looking at? And what places do you recommend for a good "sexual experience" without going all the way? Have quite a few things to ask and learn I guess (considering my lack of experience). So any advice would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]With a BBBJ or Sumata, risk of getting AIDS is slim but real, and you can get pretty much everything else, like HSV, bacterias, mushrooms which are not deadly but can be very painful, And increasing chances to get AIDS.Well if a place FS, it provides pretty much everything else, so RTFF and go it looks good to you!

I also went to Sopia for a visit. The 7000 yen deal was too good to pass. It's about a 5 to 10 minute walk from Nishi Nippori station. Got there, rang the doorbell and was greeted by the Japanese tencho. We didn't chat much. He showed the menu, I chose the first choice and then I waited for 5 minutes. I was also given Momo. I did manage to talk with her but I think she is naturally a quiet person. Interesting thing about this place is that your belonging are placed in a locker in the room. Usually I'm given a little plastic zipper bag to place my wallet and phone in. Momo gave a soapy scrubdown followed by a shower. Pretty identical to Kanda's service except I didn't get BBBJ. Mind you I've only gotten BBBJ at Smile in Nippori and it wasn't for long either. The red light in the room was also bright so it was easy to see during the special service. The massage was a little better than other KMPs I've been to. After a little mugi tea I was on my way again. It seems to me getting FS at KMPs is a hit a miss affair.

[QUOTE=Kanda; 1173514]Was on the Yamanote line passing through Nishi nippori and thought I would give Sopia (

[url]http://sopiaeste.com/main.php[/url]

) a call since they have a 50 min special for 7000 Yen before 5pm. The girls there are always very attractive with excellent bodies though faces naturally slightly off from the photos.

Had Momo this time. Regular shower / massage, naked BBBJ with hand release. Wouldn't have minded a little bit more interaction but I was more than happy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prius Driver;1173801]I also went to Sopia for a visit. The 7000 yen deal was too good to pass. It's about a 5 to 10 minute walk from Nishi Nippori station. Got there, rang the doorbell and was greeted by the Japanese tencho. We didn't chat much. He showed the menu, I chose the first choice and then I waited for 5 minutes. I was also given Momo. I did manage to talk with her but I think she is naturally a quiet person. Interesting thing about this place is that your belonging are placed in a locker in the room. Usually I'm given a little plastic zipper bag to place my wallet and phone in. Momo gave a soapy scrubdown followed by a shower. Pretty identical to Kanda's service except I didn't get BBBJ. Mind you I've only gotten BBBJ at Smile in Nippori and it wasn't for long either. The red light in the room was also bright so it was easy to see during the special service. The massage was a little better than other KMPs I've been to. After a little mugi tea I was on my way again. It seems to me getting FS at KMPs is a hit a miss affair.[/QUOTE]I agree with Prius Driver. Before the earthquake in March, I would get FS at almost every KMP I went to. Nowadays, its the opposite, with most places ending up being a miss ("Saran" being the exception). Japanese shops are still pretty good, and the level of service hasn't changed much. Getting frustrated with the lack of FS at the KMPs, I've switched to K-Delivery Health and have yet to be dissapointed.

[QUOTE=BobFoot; 1168736]thanks Taratata. I just wanted to clarify your earlier post about gaijin tax. Are the prices you quoted the total prices or the gaijin tax in addition to whats listed on their website? For example, they list 100 min as 25, 000 and you're saying 40, 000. That's the total price right? It can't be 25, 000 + 40, 000! LOL.[/QUOTE]Went there last Sunday morning at around 10am and dencho gave me 3000yen discount off the gaijin price for 60min course.

[QUOTE=Herpes;1173795]With a BBBJ or Sumata, risk of getting AIDS is slim but real, and you can get pretty much everything else[/QUOTE]I guess the jury is still out there for you getting HIV from BBBJ or sumata as some doctors believe that is just theoretical. Saliva does not seem to have enough virus to get it to the receiver of BBBJ, the changes are much higher for the giver but I do not think that was discussed here.

I do know some guys who have been unlucky enough to get herpes from commercial BBBJ places and as always the only way to make sure you do not catch anything is not to have any kind of sex with anybody ever.

I will have a night to myself before my business colleagues arrive and will be staying at the Conrad.

Before I would wander out at night over to Supergirls but I haven't seen anything about this place and asked a couple of weeks ago without a response.

For the one night I have, I wouldn't mind trying a soap for the first time. Any recommendation nearby? I will post a report after.

Also, can someone give some advice as to how to recognize what type of place you are looking at when walking around Shinbashi? I don't want to accidentally walk into a hostess bar and be hit with huge bill for one drink. When I was in college in Japan, some of my classmates somehow wandered into a bar on the 15th floor of some building and wound up getting arrested because their bill was over 30k for a couple of drinks and they tried to fight their way out.

In return, I can also offer some advice on Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau or Manila. In fact, I would highly recommend buying a $300-400 ticket to Manila. Hotels can be less than $100 and there is a place that has an inflatable mattress where the girl gives you a soapy massage body to body all for less than $100-and they speak English. The same can be had in Hong Kong but the girls don't look as nice and don't speak English.

[QUOTE=Fab489; 1173508]Hi Guys.1) Are there any massive risks (HIV etc) if your only receving a BJ? 2) What price range will I be looking at? And what places do you recommend for a good "sexual experience" without going all the way? Have quite a few things to ask and learn I guess (considering my lack of experience). So any advice would be appreciated! Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hi Fab489, The risks of getting HIV exists. I would suggest you to do some research on the subject. You may find out that transmission of the virus can be quite difficult. The risk of getting it from BBBJ is very unlikely but. The risk still exists. If you do go for a CBJ, you get more chances to win the lottery than getting HIV. I would be more concerned about other stuff you may catch. But all in all, many of us on this forum enjoy this activity and most of us have never caught anything. The luck of the drawer really.Another point, personally, if I were in Japan for a short period of time; I would not limit myself to a BJ as I am sure you can get this at home. I would try a soapland. It is a more expensive than the rest but. Wow! There is a link to a video below. It may be high end soapland so foreigners may not be granted an entrance but Fantasy in Yoshiwara is good the URL is somewhere in one of my earlier posts.[url]http://xhamster.com/movies/632080/kawaii_soapland_play.html[/url]Fantasy website:[url]http://www.y-fantasy.com/[/url]Asian Mystique:[url]http://asianmystique.com/[/url]Price range, well you can get a BBBJ for 3000yen at Janjan or an hour session with asian mystique girl for 28k yen or go for a soapland experience that is between 23k and 40k depending on how long you want to play. These are three examples only. There are plenty of stuff to choose from.Anyhow, Enjoy your stay in Japan, enjoy the fun it can provide and let us know how it goes!

[QUOTE=Sugoi;1174009]. a $300-400 ticket to Manila .[/QUOTE]Please, do tell: where can you buy such a rare beast?

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1174009]Before I would wander out at night over to Supergirls but I haven't seen anything about this place and asked a couple of weeks ago without a response.Also, can someone give some advice as to how to recognize what type of place you are looking at when walking around Shinbashi?[/QUOTE]I was just in Shinbashi this week, and went to where Supergirls is- well- was. The Supergirls sign has been replaced, and the shop occupying the space looks like a run of the mill hostess pub. No fun to be had here.You might try Shinbashi Heisei Jogakuen around the corner. If you look asian, you might be able to fake your way in. Nothing on the website says they won't serve foreigners, but others on the forum have had mixed results, I think.[url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10201/[/url]If you have 30 minutes to spare on the Yamanote line, you can hit Emotion in Gotanda, or Jan Jan in Sugamo. It's really easy to get to either from Shinbashi station, since you don't have to transfer to any other trains.

[QUOTE=Dude1979;1174131]Please, do tell: where can you buy such a rare beast?[/QUOTE]Then the 300-400 USD is for the oil surcharge. Hehehe.

TT

Shinbashi Heisei Joakuen is definitely not going to be friendly to gaijin. I've tried three times and failed. Sumimasen only, no real explanation. Just clearly a crossed arm and that was that.

[QUOTE=K1234K; 1174257]I was just in Shinbashi this week, and went to where Supergirls is- well- was. The Supergirls sign has been replaced, and the shop occupying the space looks like a run of the mill hostess pub. No fun to be had here.

You might try Shinbashi Heisei Jogakuen around the corner. If you look asian, you might be able to fake your way in. Nothing on the website says they won't serve foreigners, but others on the forum have had mixed results, I think.

[url]http://tokyo.mxy.jp/10201/[/url]

If you have 30 minutes to spare on the Yamanote line, you can hit Emotion in Gotanda, or Jan Jan in Sugamo. It's really easy to get to either from Shinbashi station, since you don't have to transfer to any other trains.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dude1979;1174131]Please, do tell: where can you buy such a rare beast?[/QUOTE]AirNet Travel 31, 900 Yen (full cost) on China Airlines. Not rare, been taking trips from Tokyo to Manila every 8 months or so for the last 10 years, never paid more than $400.[url]http://www.airnetjapan.com[/url]

Just wondering. Has anyone met any of the girls from Asian Feeling or Asian Relax outside of their work hours? The girls sometimes give out cards with their name and e-mail which I suspect for an outside meeting. I recall somebody saying that they met Kei regularly outside but she has left Asian Feeling / Relax quite a while ago. I would be interested in meeting Mui. They really work long hours so I would imagine that the opportunity to meet would be very small.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1173096]Or this Pink Salon in Ueno where the (apparently quite attractive) providers wear sexy maid uniforms? [url]http://ueno-idoling.jp/main.php[/url]If I was in Tokyo at the moment I think I'd have to try this one, even with my non-existent Japanese.[/QUOTE]I tried to get in there about 6 months ago and no luck. I've walked by there dozens of times since and always been shunned by the punters at the door.

[QUOTE=Kanda;1173514]There's a building next door with Onyanko (Chinese este) and a great Korean este which was having a good deal for 60 min at 9000 Yen. Hot girl and included FS. New-ish Japanese pink salon on an upper floor (AKB 48 special event!) though was rejected there as well.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing this is the place:[url]http://n-hikari.com/[/url]Any idea which girl you saw?Thanks,X

[QUOTE=Prius Driver;1174942]Just wondering. Has anyone met any of the girls from Asian Feeling or Asian Relax outside of their work hours? The girls sometimes give out cards with their name and e-mail which I suspect for an outside meeting. I recall somebody saying that they met Kei regularly outside but she has left Asian Feeling / Relax quite a while ago. I would be interested in meeting Mui. They really work long hours so I would imagine that the opportunity to meet would be very small.[/QUOTE]I've met Sala a number of times outside of work for a couple of years. We'll usually have a light meal then get a room for a few hours. Been told most of the girls have outside friends they had first met as customers. Also, Sala and Nataliy had profiles on Tagged last time I checked.

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude;1175081]I've met Sala a number of times outside of work for a couple of years. We'll usually have a light meal then get a room for a few hours. Been told most of the girls have outside friends they had first met as customers. Also, Sala and Nataliy had profiles on Tagged last time I checked.[/QUOTE]Nice. May I ask how much was the total damage?

[quote=little jared;1175205]nice. may i ask how much was the total damage?[/quote]we'd have a 3-4 hour session on her day off for 10, 000yen. it was fs-gfe, shower, a couple of pops with massage included. i couldn't host so i booked a room in the area (4, 000yen). her only condition was that i do visit her at the salon once a month, so she can get a credit for each booking. we stopped about a year ago when i started dating a japanese pro massage therapist with a nice rack and i also had my milf candy waiting for me anytime for a fuck, massage and homemade dinner.

Kings club is back online. It looks like a major revamp with different girls and different prices. I would even say that they might not be gaijin friendly anymore.

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1166918]So last night I had decided to follow always-wise-Dreams's advice and go have a look at King's Club in Yoshiwara.

I checked on the internet but the website seems to be down.

[url]http://www.kings-club.net/[/url]

Anyone got info about the situation?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xslikx; 1174995]I'm guessing this is the place:

[url]http://n-hikari.com/[/url]

Any idea which girl you saw?

Thanks,

X[/QUOTE]It was Hikari! Unfortunately, none of the names / faces ring a bell.

[QUOTE=Prius Driver;1175224]Kings club is back online. It looks like a major revamp with different girls and different prices. I would even say that they might not be gaijin friendly anymore.[/QUOTE]The old Kings Club that advertised its foreigner friendliness changed its name to Fantasy, and is much the same as before (

[url]http://www.y-fantasy.com/top.php[/url]

).

This new Kings Club is at a different address, with completely different providers. For what it's worth, Kings Club used to be a very high class (high priced) soap years ago.

[quote=jpn dude;1175217]we'd have a 3-4 hour session on her day off for 10, 000yen. it was fs-gfe, shower, a couple of pops with massage included. i couldn't host so i booked a room in the area (4, 000yen). her only condition was that i do visit her at the salon once a month, so she can get a credit for each booking. we stopped about a year ago when i started dating a japanese pro massage therapist with a nice rack and i also had my milf candy waiting for me anytime for a fuck, massage and homemade dinner.[/quote]a couple of years ago i had a 4-5 month stint of seeing kei around once a month in kawasaki. it was pretty much the same set-up as you describe with sala-very pleasant and un-complicated. lovely, bright, beautiful gal, kei! our meetings stopped only when i went off to work in manila for a year. haven't heard from her since i got back, so i hope that her quitting af is a good sign that she has been able to move on with her life to a better, more secure situation.

manta ray

Saw Misa a few weeks back in June and at first glance she didn't look as hot as the AM site photos. Her hair is grown out and longer but her attitude was good. Now right off Misa is not a slim girl as already posted here. She's got a nipple ring on her right tit; she told me she had had it done only a few days earlier so it was really sensitive.

She said that once the new nipple ring piecing had healed, she would enjoy being led around like a sex toy with a leash attached to it. She got into the kinky talk a lot, but when I said "So you like S&M, huh" she reacted surprised and shocked. And said "No!" Now English is Misa's third language, Japanese her first and French her second, so maybe there was a miscommunication. Anyways: Looks 6/10, Service 7/10 Attitude 9/10 I gave her low marks on service only because her BJ skills (nama) could be improved.

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1174072]Hi Fab489, The risks of getting HIV exists. I would suggest you to do some research on the subject. You may find out that transmission of the virus can be quite difficult. The risk of getting it from BBBJ is very unlikely but. The risk still exists. If you do go for a CBJ, you get more chances to win the lottery than getting HIV. I would be more concerned about other stuff you may catch. But all in all, many of us on this forum enjoy this activity and most of us have never caught anything. The luck of the drawer really.Another point, personally, if I were in Japan for a short period of time; I would not limit myself to a BJ as I am sure you can get this at home. I would try a soapland. It is a more expensive than the rest but. Wow! There is a link to a video below. It may be high end soapland so foreigners may not be granted an entrance but Fantasy in Yoshiwara is good the URL is somewhere in one of my earlier posts.[url]http://xhamster.com/movies/632080/kawaii_soapland_play.html[/url]Fantasy website:[url]http://www.y-fantasy.com/[/url]Asian Mystique:[url]http://asianmystique.com/[/url]Price range, well you can get a BBBJ for 3000yen at Janjan or an hour session with asian mystique girl for 28k yen or go for a soapland experience that is between 23k and 40k depending on how long you want to play. These are three examples only. There are plenty of stuff to choose from.Anyhow, Enjoy your stay in Japan, enjoy the fun it can provide and let us know how it goes![/QUOTE]Thanks mate, appreciate the effort! Yeh, I'm looking at maybe trying out a soapland. However, still not 100% keen on the FS. I guess there's always a "risk" involved. And my lack of experience may make things harder haha.Would love to experience the massage etc. So will definitely look into it closer to the date. Will be in Japan in October, so can't wait! Thanks again, and let me know if you have any other tips.

Has anyone been able to get into Crystal in Sugamo? According to their website, they are offering a 3 girl rotation for 3000 yen. I haven't been able to get into any of the kaiten places since 2007.[url]http://www.sugamo-crystal.net/top.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Dude1979;1174131]Please, do tell: where can you buy such a rare beast?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.ana.co.jp/asw/wws/ph/e/[/url]

There is a fare from MNL-NRT RT for $390. Maybe it isn't the same fare going NRT-MNL. I have flown from Manila to Tokyo and Osaka for about $300-$400 several times.

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1175838][url]Http://www.ana.co.jp/asw/wws/ph/e/[/url]

There is a fare from MNL-NRT RT for $390. Maybe it isn't the same fare going NRT-MNL. I have flown from Manila to Tokyo and Osaka for about $300-$400 several times.[/QUOTE]The total fare, though, including taxes and fuel surcharges, comes out to $612. 00.

FWIW, the opposite booking, from NRT to MNL to NRT (I used 7/28 departure. 7/31 return for both) comes out to JPY80, 540, including taxes and fuel surcharges. Which is just over $1, 000 at current exchange rates.

I have to head to Manila for a few days at the beginning of next month, and Japan morning departure, Manila afternoon departure add another $200 to the pot.

Happy flying!

Hey All,

I'll be in Tokyo in early September for about a week, and I wanted to see if there's a consensus as to which foreigner-friendly soapland has the best providers and menu / experiences to be had.

I'd be happy to reciprocate with intel on Seoul and Korea in general, in case anyone's coming this way anytime soon.

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1175484]A couple of years ago I had a 4-5 month stint of seeing Kei around once a month in Kawasaki. It was pretty much the same set-up as you describe with Sala-very pleasant and un-complicated. Lovely, bright, beautiful gal, Kei! Our meetings stopped only when I went off to work in Manila for a year. Haven't heard from her since I got back, so I hope that her quitting AF is a good sign that she has been able to move on with her life to a better, more secure situation.Manta Ray[/QUOTE]I still see kei about once a month she comes out to Gotanda area she is trying to set up her own massage place and nail salon in the meguro area. She still has one.Of the best butts around and gives amazing bbj.

Planning a short business trip to tokyo and kyoto for a week or so.

Any tips to where to go for fun for english speaking babes?

Any contacts / independents offering service?

Cheers.

Shane

Has anyone tried out New Only One, a Korean esute in Takadanobaba?

[url]http://www.es-only1.com/i/access.php[/url]

I am curious to find out if they are FS, as the prices and website seem right.

Also, is anybody aware of any Korean FS esutes anywhere in West / Southwest Tokyo?

I am looking for an opportunity out from under my gf's thumb to try [url]www.es-raku.com[/url] In Gotanda.

Do you know if [url]www.star-es.com[/url] Or the other Korean esutes in Okachimachi / Nippori are FS? I would really like to find out.

Thanks.

I passed by an FS esute called "Doki Doki Erection" in Sugamo today [url]http://su-dokidoki.com/top.php[/url] And I've confirmed that it is gaijin friendly. Strangely they had a string of bad mainland Chinese customers so they are only iffy about letting in mainland Chinese customers. The place itself is actually quite lovely. Everything is new and clean, and the rooms are fairly wide with their own showers. The pricing is incredible for such a nice looking establishment and because of that, the place was BUSY. Fortunately I booked an appointment before going, because there was a line of people who didn't when I arrived. The place is located on the 4th floor of the "Brown Building" which is straight across the taxi loop of Sugamo's north exit. Just go towards the 7-11, look for a coffee shop (name is all in Japanese and I forgot what the coffee shop was called) and turn right. The place is above the coffee shop, but the entrance to the building is around the corner.

Most of the girls at the shop are from China, a couple are actually Japanese, and the girl I had was Haruka from Taiwan. I picked her because the website gave her very strong recommendations. Haruka was fairly cute looking and thin, but virtually no bust or ass. She did provide really good service though. All of her techniques were excellent and she even made the shower a nice experience. I had the before 6:00pm special which was 65 minutes (2 pops) for 8000 yen which is a bargain considering the service and the niceness of the place itself. I will definitely go again and recommend others to give it a try as well. If your Japanese can manage, I definitely recommend booking an appointment.

Thanks for sharing.

My Japanese isn't up to making a reservation, so I think I'll visit on a weekday at 11am and hope for the best.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1177416]I passed by an FS esute called "Doki Doki Erection" in Sugamo today.

[url]http://su-dokidoki.com/top.php[/url]

And I've confirmed that it is gaijin friendly. Strangely they had a string of bad mainland Chinese customers so they are only iffy about letting in mainland Chinese customers. The place itself is actually quite lovely. Everything is new and clean, and the rooms are fairly wide with their own showers. The pricing is incredible for such a nice looking establishment and because of that, the place was BUSY. Fortunately I booked an appointment before going, because there was a line of people who didn't when I arrived. The place is located on the 4th floor of the "Brown Building" which is straight across the taxi loop of Sugamo's north exit. Just go towards the 7-11, look for a coffee shop (name is all in Japanese and I forgot what the coffee shop was called) and turn right. The place is above the coffee shop, but the entrance to the building is around the corner.

Most of the girls at the shop are from China, a couple are actually Japanese, and the girl I had was Haruka from Taiwan. I picked her because the website gave her very strong recommendations. Haruka was fairly cute looking and thin, but virtually no bust or ass. She did provide really good service though. All of her techniques were excellent and she even made the shower a nice experience. I had the before 6:00pm special which was 65 minutes (2 pops) for 8000 yen which is a bargain considering the service and the niceness of the place itself. I will definitely go again and recommend others to give it a try as well. If your Japanese can manage, I definitely recommend booking an appointment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Backtobasics; 1177524]Thanks for sharing.My Japanese isn't up to making a reservation, so I think I'll visit on a weekday at 11am and hope for the best.[/QUOTE]I called this morning and made a reservation (in Japanese) , and everything seemed cool. Found the place with no problem. However, when I walked into the shop and the tencho saw I wasn't Japanese, he told me that this shop couldn't provide me service. We talked about it for awhile and he told me that the girls on staff are a little frightened of foreigners. He said that they allowed foreigners in the past, but the girls generally weren't comfortable with it. He did apologize profusely and wasn't rude about it at all, and I didn't argue about it. I have never been turned down at a shop before, and my appearance isn't so much "foreign" but more like a half blood, raised in Japan. I have't had a problem getting into Japanese only shops before, either. In other words, at first glance, I usually blend in. Maybe I'm not foreign enough? Anyway, be warned. It's not THAT gaijin friendly.

[QUOTE=Shirokage; 1177589]I called this morning and made a reservation (in Japanese) , and everything seemed cool. Found the place with no problem. However, when I walked into the shop and the tencho saw I wasn't Japanese, he told me that this shop couldn't provide me service. We talked about it for awhile and he told me that the girls on staff are a little frightened of foreigners. He said that they allowed foreigners in the past, but the girls generally weren't comfortable with it. He did apologize profusely and wasn't rude about it at all, and I didn't argue about it. I have never been turned down at a shop before, and my appearance isn't so much "foreign" but more like a half blood, raised in Japan. I have't had a problem getting into Japanese only shops before, either. In other words, at first glance, I usually blend in. Maybe I'm not foreign enough?

Anyway, be warned. It's not THAT gaijin friendly.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to hear that. I got asked what nationality I was when I went in and I said "American" but I am of Asian descent so that may have made the difference.

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1165157]I was strolling around Shibuya yesterday afternoon and decided to pay a visit to Grimpeur. When I got there I was surprised to discover that they had moved, now located on Doganzaka (access map on their homepage). The new shop in their old location is now called Milk Gals, with pretty much the same set up as Grimp. The youngish tencho there was welcoming, so I thought it prudent to give them a try. He quickly established that my Japanese is adequate and then pulled out the pics for me to choose. The time / price options are slightly different than Grimp, with Milk's cheapest daytime option being 35 mins for 12500. I went with that option as I was a bit pressed for time and allowed him to choose the gal for me?I just asked for a slender gal if possible. I then waited at the hotel for about 10 mins, after which Yumi arrived-not quite as slender as I had hoped for, though not at all chubby (I am just into very slim gals). However, she proved to be a very sweet, pleasant, accommodating gal who did not disappoint.Have any of you lads tried Grimp since they moved? If so, any changes to their set up / prices? Manta Ray[/QUOTE]Same old place, same new girls. Prices and system are identical, same people running the show. Get a loyalty card if you can as one guy is less gaijin-friendly than the others and will turn you down without one (depending on your nihongo but mine is not great).Otherwise this is a great place IMHO. 14-15, 000 for the girl and a few thousand for the hotel.[url]www.s-grimpeur.jp[/url]For those not in the know. The new place is right on Dogenzaka, same side as the Dubliners. Go down the steps of the Dubliners, walk past the side street and it is on the right downstairs. There is a video on their front page showing you how to get there.They are also getting very "arty" with they photo shoots and video shoots. The pyjama girl is my current fave, plus the shots of the girl in the bath.Shibuya

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1177636]I'm sorry to hear that. I got asked what nationality I was when I went in and I said "American" but I am of Asian descent so that may have made the difference.[/QUOTE]I'm also Asian-American. I went there today without a reservation. I spoke in Japanese. It did not look busy, but I was turned away as well.

[QUOTE=Dlbtmail;1178000]I'm also Asian-American. I went there today without a reservation. I spoke in Japanese. It did not look busy, but I was turned away as well.[/QUOTE]Wow. I have no idea how I got in originally then, because I had zero trouble. I may have had a different manager or something, but by the sounds of things, I'll get turned away the next time I go.

[QUOTE=Shartz6996; 1177151]Planning a short business trip to tokyo and kyoto for a week or so.Any tips to where to go for fun for english speaking babes? Any contacts / independents offering service? Cheers.Shane[/QUOTE]When you are in Tokyo, you can get a japanese girl coming to your place, hotel or apartment just by reserving her online. I did it couple of times and was very happy. Prices vary for time you choose and a kind of service. Check it here: [url]http://erolin.net/?ac=genre&cid=24[/url] Hope it will help.

Hi everyone, I've been reading this thread for quite a while but I've never posted anything.Last week, the old dragon not being around for some days, I finally made up my mind to try out some Korea Massage place in Nippori.I went to Hikari and I had Yuri.[url]http://n-hikari.com/[/url]She looks like her pictures. She's quite cute, short with nice body and really talkative girl.Well, my japanese is near fluent and as she speaks only japanese, it was nice for both of us to communicate without a problem.About the service, I took the VIP 80min course with oil massage (12. 000 yens with internet discount).First, the girl took me to the shower and washed me everywhere.Then back to her little booth (separated from the other ones by a curtain so you could hear other customers talking) and the massage started. Not bad technique I guess but I don't have anything else to compare. Anyway, it felt good.After 50 minutes of massage, she turned off the main light to darken the booth, she got naked and started to massage by back with her body, then asked me to turn and did the same thing in front.She used jelly on my important part and massage it with her breast (fake obviously but nice) and I got a HJ to finish me off.Then, she went to shower herself, came back and brought me back to the shower, and that's all! All in all, service was good and a real GFE but no FS, neither BJ.I was expecting more so I was a bit disappointed. Maybe it is because she is new to this or she does not do it to first timer, I couldn't say.Not sure to repeat if there is no happy ending.Did anybody go there and got FS with her or another girl?

[QUOTE=Shibuya; 1177755]Same old place, same new girls. Prices and system are identical, same people running the show. Get a loyalty card if you can as one guy is less gaijin-friendly than the others and will turn you down without one (depending on your nihongo but mine is not great).

Otherwise this is a great place IMHO. 14-15, 000 for the girl and a few thousand for the hotel.

[url]www.s-grimpeur.jp[/url]

For those not in the know. The new place is right on Dogenzaka, same side as the Dubliners. Go down the steps of the Dubliners, walk past the side street and it is on the right downstairs. There is a video on their front page showing you how to get there.

They are also getting very "arty" with they photo shoots and video shoots. The pyjama girl is my current fave, plus the shots of the girl in the bath.

Shibuya[/QUOTE]Yes, still a great place for meeting some young Japanese girls, though quality of the girls vary dramatically and good ones are few and far between-sometimes great body, but lousy services and shit attitude, at other times, great services but so so body.

The shop now 'respects' the girls the choice to accept or reject gaijin, it's harder to get the all-ok pass.

[QUOTE=Takaramono;1178492]When you are in Tokyo, you can get a japanese girl coming to your place, hotel or apartment just by reserving her online. I did it couple of times and was very happy. Prices vary for time you choose and a kind of service. Check it here: [REDACTED] Hope it will help.[/QUOTE]Let's see:

- Takaramono was first registered on July 20 aka yesterday.

- Both of it's posts so far, including one on the long-dead dire wolf thread, mention the same commercial web site.

Conclusion: Takaramono is touting the web site s / he mentions in all it's posts. I don't know why, I don't care, but take it's advice with a large grain of salt.

Message to Takaramono: commercial promotions belong in the Classified Ads folder of this site, and nowhere else. KNOCK IT OFF.

ES

To Manta Ray,How's your appointment massage with masumi? Any news man?

Reported to Administrator.

A couple of weeks ago, I was waiting for a lady I met on tagged for our first date. I was a bit early so I walked around when suddenly I could hear someone behind me saying:"excuse me!" after I replied, this lady asked me if I had time to spare to have a cup of coffee or something. She was not my type at all, but I had a few minutes to spare and was looking for air conditioned place. So I said, why not.A quick coffee and a chat later I was on my way to my date, with the smiley feeling about what had just happened. I got nampa-ed before I could nampa myself, although she was definitely not my kind of lady.Japan will always surprise me! The date off tagged went very well too, a lot of physical connection but no privacy. Next time maybe.

I come through Tokyo twice per year, RTFF first, and have always benefited from the posted info on the thread. In return, I always post my experiences, including the discovery of a sister esute to Yu-Yu in Gotanda where I got my only GFE session in Tokyo, which was duplicated by others. But my trip to New York, New York tonight has truly rattled my confidence here. Maki, my hostess, was well into her 50s, fat, ugly, had broken teeth and smokers' breath, and was the precise opposite of attractive. The doors to the bath chambers have windows, so I could plainly see that all the other women were just as disgusting. There is no FS, she gave a skilled BBBJ but you can only come by hand. Why would I go here to pay just under 10, 000 yen when I can go to a Pink Salon for less than half that much for BBBJ / CIM? To all the men who recommended this place, my advice is to scrimp and save as quickly as possible for a plane ticket to any of the locations listed on the home page (before you get to the 'All the Forums' page) , and find out what this hobby is aiming for. In my home town of San Francisco, for $140 / hr, I regularly get rimmed, BBBJ, FS in any position I want, and CIM with an attractive 30-something Asian or black woman.C'mon guys, get a fucking grip.

[QUOTE=FuckandGo; 1178721]To Manta Ray,

How's your appointment massage with masumi? Any news man?[/QUOTE]Oops, almost forgot. Thanks for reminding me!

I did indeed have my massage appointment with Masumi.

First the bad news: Well, not exactly bad. Just that she is a wee bit chunkier than I am used to-late 30's and somewhat on the thick-side (body-type, not brain-power!) , though not what I would call fat, and certainly not ugly.

Now the good news: She arrived at our meeting place exactly on time, is very pleasant and polite, and speaks very good English, having lived recently in Hawaii. She was also gracious enough to not ask for the money in advance, which I appreciated. Moreover, she most definitely knows how to give an excellently skillful aroma oil massage-complete with a super sensuous happy ending (by hand)! She obviously really enjoys giving 'tantric' massage and was very thorough, not skimping at all on the time-a full 90 minutes as promised, and ending with a lovely face massage.

All in all, I would certainly recommend her for her massage technique. Though not the slimmest, sexiest gal around, it was nonetheless a very pleasant experience, and for ?5000 plus ?3000 for the hotel, well worth it. She even sent a very nice follow-up email saying she enjoyed the meeting and telling me to please feel free to get in touch when I need another massage.

Manta Ray

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1179051]A couple of weeks ago, I was waiting for a lady I met on tagged for our first date. I was a bit early so I walked around when suddenly I could hear someone behind me saying:"excuse me!" after I replied, this lady asked me if I had time to spare to have a cup of coffee or something. She was not my type at all, but I had a few minutes to spare and was looking for air conditioned place. So I said, why not.

A quick coffee and a chat later I was on my way to my date, with the smiley feeling about what had just happened. I got nampa-ed before I could nampa myself, although she was definitely not my kind of lady.

Japan will always surprise me!

The date off tagged went very well too, a lot of physical connection but no privacy. Next time maybe.[/QUOTE]Yea, it happens. I got picked up by an average looking 20 something Japanese woman in a Tokyo Starbucks. Within 20 minutes she was asking if I wanted to have sex. It was strange. In the end I found out she wanted to get revenge on her gaijin boyfriend who was fucking dozens of Japanese women behind her back.

Hi all, I will be flying to Tokyo, Shinjuku for a short business trip for a week. Don't have much time to do hunting since my schedule are packed to the max! I like to engage in some massage services in my hotel. Any good website (prefer English) to recommend so that I can make an appointment?Cheers and happy hunting.Cooler

Probably old news, but: [url]http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/11/news/la-heb-antibiotic-resistant-gonorrhea-07112011[/url]

[QUOTE=Cooler8;1179632]Don't have much time to do hunting[/QUOTE]No time to RTFF?

[QUOTE=Cooler8; 1179632]Hi all,

Any good website (prefer English) to recommend so that I can make an appointment?

Cheers and happy hunting.

Cooler[/QUOTE]Yeh, try this one.

[QUOTE=Canick1; 1179054]I come through Tokyo twice per year, RTFF first, and have always benefited from the posted info on the thread. In return, I always post my experiences, including the discovery of a sister esute to Yu-Yu in Gotanda where I got my only GFE session in Tokyo, which was duplicated by others. But my trip to New York, New York tonight has truly rattled my confidence here. Maki, my hostess, was well into her 50s, fat, ugly, had broken teeth and smokers' breath, and was the precise opposite of attractive. The doors to the bath chambers have windows, so I could plainly see that all the other women were just as disgusting. There is no FS, she gave a skilled BBBJ but you can only come by hand. Why would I go here to pay just under 10, 000 yen when I can go to a Pink Salon for less than half that much for BBBJ / CIM? To all the men who recommended this place, my advice is to scrimp and save as quickly as possible for a plane ticket to any of the locations listed on the home page (before you get to the 'All the Forums' page) , and find out what this hobby is aiming for. In my home town of San Francisco, for $140 / hr, I regularly get rimmed, BBBJ, FS in any position I want, and CIM with an attractive 30-something Asian or black woman.

C'mon guys, get a fucking grip.[/QUOTE]Maybe if you had read the posts related to NYNY, you would have known that you had indeed the risk to be seen by a 50+ woman.

From your enornous contribution to this forum so far. 6 posts, you make general statements after a single visit to a place that other have visited many times.

Maybe you got what you deserved, based on the tone of your post. I am known there, even if I go only once or twice a year, and when I politely ask for a yound and busty girl, I get her. Anyway, ythe good news is that I won't meet you there.

[QUOTE=Pussycheck;1180663]How easy or difficult is it in Tokyo to pick up regular girls (non-prostitutes) you can have sex with compared to other asian cities? I've been told that in Tokyo it is not difficult to have sex with regular girls (non-prostitutes) for free.[/QUOTE]Like any city, it depends on how smooth you are, although most Japanese have very minimal English, so your chances narrow a lot if you don't speak the lingo.

So the other day I was walking around Kanda. This place has TONS of massage parlours (mostly Chinese and thai).

I went to this one first:

[url]http://www.kanda-hime.com/[/url]

Basic course is 3, 000 for 30 min, then you have the hime-courses starting from 7, 000 (60 min) and so on.

The reception girl flat out told me that any of the hime ones come with a HJ happy ending, and that I could also get FS for "a little extra" money (wasn't clear on how much extra though)

Chinese girls, nice but not stunning, and I wanted to know what other places had to offer so I thanked her and left.

Then I went there:

[url]http://heartful-garden.com/index_pc.php[/url]

Pretty much the same price. Reception girl wasn't as specific about the service but I didn't really ask either, assuming it would be the same.

I chose Aki for 60 min. Cute, nice little body (I would say 7/10 but I'm a picky *****). Shower, back, front. Nice technique, let me touch and kiss her to a certain extent. Her moaning was probably fake but actually arousing. I came on her face "by accident" (she didn't cover it enough) but she was like "it's okay" with a very sexy smile.

Not bad for 7, 000 yen.

So on my way back, lost in my thoughts about the human condition, state of society and life in general (among others) , I was thinking. It's always hard to tell in those places if you can or cannot get extra. Since you will always be told "no no no" (well, almost always) at the front and then you may or may not be lucky with your girl. But 2 hits out of 2 tries leaves me to think that Kanda is a good spot.

I read you can get a hint by checking the "map" page on the website. If they don't give the full address and just say instead something like "come to this station and then give us a call" then that would be a big sign. Never verified it (and the 2 places I wend had the address).

I also noticed that some search websites use the term "nuki-nashi" which I think means "no ejaculation". Does anyone know about that?

And I just copied & pasted this whole post in a mail. To my boss.

He's an understanding guy, so let's see what happens now.

Haha. I guess.

LJ

[QUOTE=Canick1; 1179054]I come through Tokyo twice per year, RTFF first, and have always benefited from the posted info on the thread. In return, I always post my experiences, including the discovery of a sister esute to Yu-Yu in Gotanda where I got my only GFE session in Tokyo, which was duplicated by others. But my trip to New York, New York tonight has truly rattled my confidence here. Maki, my hostess, was well into her 50s, fat, ugly, had broken teeth and smokers' breath, and was the precise opposite of attractive. The doors to the bath chambers have windows, so I could plainly see that all the other women were just as disgusting. There is no FS, she gave a skilled BBBJ but you can only come by hand. Why would I go here to pay just under 10, 000 yen when I can go to a Pink Salon for less than half that much for BBBJ / CIM? To all the men who recommended this place, my advice is to scrimp and save as quickly as possible for a plane ticket to any of the locations listed on the home page (before you get to the 'All the Forums' page) , and find out what this hobby is aiming for. In my home town of San Francisco, for $140 / hr, I regularly get rimmed, BBBJ, FS in any position I want, and CIM with an attractive 30-something Asian or black woman.C'mon guys, get a fucking grip.[/QUOTE]I went to NYNY several time because I am not looking to be fully serviced by a 20yo girl with a possible negative attitude. Everytime, I went there I felt like my money was well spent. I give you that it can be a hit and miss with the look of the lady. But by choosing this establishment, I knew exactly what I was NOT going to get. That suited me. I still recommend these shops for those who have different taste.

Hey guys ill be in narita for 3 days and was wondering if anyone could suggest some places or some contacts. Appreciate greatly. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1180929]And I just copied & pasted this whole post in a mail. To my boss.

He's an understanding guy, so let's see what happens now.

Haha. I guess.

LJ[/QUOTE]Maybe he sees it as a spam. .

Or he will start checking your traveling expenses very carefully!

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1180929]And I just copied & pasted this whole post in a mail. To my boss.

He's an understanding guy, so let's see what happens now.

Haha. I guess.

LJ[/QUOTE]Maybe he is one of the senior members here? LOLzzzz

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1180927]So the other day I was walking around Kanda. This place has TONS of massage parlours (mostly Chinese and thai).

I went to this one first:

[url]http://www.kanda-hime.com/[/url]

Basic course is 3, 000 for 30 min, then you have the hime-courses starting from 7, 000 (60 min) and so on.

The reception girl flat out told me that any of the hime ones come with a HJ happy ending, and that I could also get FS for "a little extra" money (wasn't clear on how much extra though)

Chinese girls, nice but not stunning, and I wanted to know what other places had to offer so I thanked her and left.

Then I went there:

[url]http://heartful-garden.com/index_pc.php[/url]

Pretty much the same price. Reception girl wasn't as specific about the service but I didn't really ask either, assuming it would be the same.

I chose Aki for 60 min. Cute, nice little body (I would say 7/10 but I'm a picky *). Shower, back, front. Nice technique, let me touch and kiss her to a certain extent. Her moaning was probably fake but actually arousing. I came on her face "by accident" (she didn't cover it enough) but she was like "it's okay" with a very sexy smile.

Not bad for 7, 000 yen.

So on my way back, lost in my thoughts about the human condition, state of society and life in general (among others) , I was thinking. It's always hard to tell in those places if you can or cannot get extra. Since you will always be told "no no no" (well, almost always) at the front and then you may or may not be lucky with your girl. But 2 hits out of 2 tries leaves me to think that Kanda is a good spot.

I read you can get a hint by checking the "map" page on the website. If they don't give the full address and just say instead something like "come to this station and then give us a call" then that would be a big sign. Never verified it (and the 2 places I wend had the address).

I also noticed that some search websites use the term "nuki-nashi" which I think means "no ejaculation". Does anyone know about that?[/QUOTE]Heartful Garden was a favorite of mine when I started hanging out in Kanda (near my new company's office). My first time there I actually achieved FS with my masseuse, and was very happy. Until I found out how ruthless the turnover was there. That girl was gone a week later, the next time I stopped by. Since then I've been through the gambit of Chinese girls they stock the place with, and haven't gotten FS since. Recently I don't even bother going there, and any of the other Chinese estes in Kanda are basically the same. I've found a better time at the one Korean este I now frequent, although FS is not available and what service you do get is highly dependent on the specific girl.

The reason I am posting on this is that I originally met Aki when she worked at an este in Shimbashi, near my old office (the place was called 'Love Story' or something and was run by the same mama-san who runs Heartful Garden). In Shimbashi I actual paid her a bit extra (5-10k) to get FS. Unfortunately now is a bit of a different situation, and she has 'graduated'! She sometimes mans the desk at HG and I don't know if she's DTF anymore. Still, you might try offering her a bit of JPY and if she's not on her period at the time you might get lucky.

By the way, I doubt you could get FS for a little, or even potentially a lot, extra money at the other place. Kanda Chinese estes are pretty much FS-free, unfortunately. Of course you could get lucky, which I did at three different places (HG and two others, neither of which now exists).

'Nuki' equals 'release' generally 'hand-release' so you're right: if it says 'Nuki-nashi' steer clear unless you are specifically looking for a mediocre massage and nothing else.

YMMV. GL!

ES

[QUOTE=Bmwman;1180956]. ill be in narita for 3 days .[/QUOTE]My advice is: Don't stay in Narita for three days.

[QUOTE=Dude1979; 1180016]Probably old news, but:[url]http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/11/news/la-heb-antibiotic-resistant-gonorrhea-07112011[/url][/QUOTE]When I read that story, I was hoping they weren't talking about a Tokyo girl. Upon further research I found that the bug was found in a Kyoto WG. Made me thankful that I've not found a place in Kyoto that takes foreigners! A note on Jan-Jan:A few weeks ago I stopped by on my way to Narita, wearing a carry-on size backpack and having a big suitcase in tow. The other touts there in Sugamo BJ alley that always ignore me actually looked at me, frowning as if I was doing something wrong. Yeah maybe it is unusual to haul luggage to the pinsaro, but I needed one last Japanese BJ before going to Manila. Anyway, the Jan-Jan guy waved me in with a smile like always. It was a bit difficult to get the suitcase down the stairs, but I managed. The BJ girl laughed when she saw the big suitcase and asked where I was going. The moral of the story is that this place is still very friendly, you just need to come alone, act nice, bring 4k yen and be ready to jizz bareback in their mouths. Luggage is optional. ;)

[QUOTE=Bisounours; 1178647]I went to Hikari and I had Yuri.

[url]http://n-hikari.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for this report. There was a previous report about this place that included FS, so I guess YMMV. The Korean places are usually cleanly divided along the massage / HJ only and FS line, however, there is much flexibility. I've fucked a number of girls in the nominally HJ only places, and usually for no extra fee.

By the way, there is no Yuri listed on their website. They have a Yuki, a Mari and an Eri, but no Yuri posted. Are you sure the name was Yuri?

[QUOTE=Xslikx; 1181300]Thanks for this report. There was a previous report about this place that included FS, so I guess YMMV. The Korean places are usually cleanly divided along the massage / HJ only and FS line, however, there is much flexibility. I've fucked a number of girls in the nominally HJ only places, and usually for no extra fee.By the way, there is no Yuri listed on their website. They have a Yuki, a Mari and an Eri, but no Yuri posted. Are you sure the name was Yuri?[/QUOTE]Actually I have the same question from the last post. With the recent closed down of sarans and several other korean FS shops, is there anything left? Haven't went out much since the earthquake and my workload got intensed up until now. So anyone knows any FS shops (I got bored with soapland also they are quite expensive) Chinese or Korean, please post it. Having my buddies coming over for the weekends. But jsut don't know where to go anymore.

I have been frequenting Asian Feeling / Relax in Shinjuku and Chouraku in Gotanda for quite a while, and although they provide great service and value, I would be pleased to find a good massage place with definite happy ending around the Shibuya area. I've also been to Yu-yu in Gotanda a few times, but the place is a bit too sleazy looking for my taste. So far, no luck. I did recently try one promising looking massage place on Dogenzaka (sorry, forgot the name) , but unfortunately, as pretty as the (Chinese) gal was and as pleasant as the massage was, it turned out to be one of the places that asks you to wear a paper g-string, and does not offer a happy ending. So, any of you lads know of any massage places around Shibuya of the Asian Feeling / Relax type, that provide the HE?

Manta Ray

Hmm, bad news? [url]http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/07/27/delivery-health-king-busted-1800-girls-62-brothels/[/url]

You obviously did not read the warnings and caveats about NYNY. It's not for everyone. You have to be willing to take a 50+ who is not attractive at all. You also need to realize that the ladies are plain, many overweight and downright homely. But, in my experience, the service is good and if you can get past the unattractiveness you should be OK. Otherwise, stick to Chinese esute in this price category.

[QUOTE=Canick1; 1179054]I come through Tokyo twice per year, RTFF first, and have always benefited from the posted info on the thread. In return, I always post my experiences, including the discovery of a sister esute to Yu-Yu in Gotanda where I got my only GFE session in Tokyo, which was duplicated by others. But my trip to New York, New York tonight has truly rattled my confidence here. Maki, my hostess, was well into her 50s, fat, ugly, had broken teeth and smokers' breath, and was the precise opposite of attractive. The doors to the bath chambers have windows, so I could plainly see that all the other women were just as disgusting. There is no FS, she gave a skilled BBBJ but you can only come by hand. Why would I go here to pay just under 10, 000 yen when I can go to a Pink Salon for less than half that much for BBBJ / CIM? To all the men who recommended this place, my advice is to scrimp and save as quickly as possible for a plane ticket to any of the locations listed on the home page (before you get to the 'All the Forums' page) , and find out what this hobby is aiming for. In my home town of San Francisco, for $140 / hr, I regularly get rimmed, BBBJ, FS in any position I want, and CIM with an attractive 30-something Asian or black woman.

C'mon guys, get a fucking grip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smith Ed;1181316]Actually I have the same question from the last post. With the recent closed down of sarans and several other korean FS shops, is there anything left? Haven't went out much since the earthquake and my workload got intensed up until now. So anyone knows any FS shops (I got bored with soapland also they are quite expensive) Chinese or Korean, please post it. Having my buddies coming over for the weekends. But jsut don't know where to go anymore.[/QUOTE]There's no lack of FS places in Gotanda. Go up the street with the Yoshinoya on the corner that has all of the action in Gotanda. Just walk once down that street and you should get stopped no less than 3 times by Chinese girls on the street asking for you for a massage. There's a bunch of different places in that area, but they're all the same deal. 40 minutes for 10000 yen. The massage is optional if you're in a rush. Just tell them that you want to see the girl beforehand and if you're not happy with the girl, tell them so. They'll either get another girl or give you your money back. Just be aware that most of the shops open at 7pm or 8pm from my experience, so before that there's not much action in the area.

[QUOTE=Xslikx; 1181300]Thanks for this report. There was a previous report about this place that included FS, so I guess YMMV. The Korean places are usually cleanly divided along the massage / HJ only and FS line, however, there is much flexibility. I've fucked a number of girls in the nominally HJ only places, and usually for no extra fee.By the way, there is no Yuri listed on their website. They have a Yuki, a Mari and an Eri, but no Yuri posted. Are you sure the name was Yuri?[/QUOTE]Hi, Yes I'm sure but her profile is not on their website anymore.She was a "new face" so I guess she did not stay long after all and that's maybe why she did not offer FS.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1179230]Yea, it happens. I got picked up by an average looking 20 something Japanese woman in a Tokyo Starbucks. Within 20 minutes she was asking if I wanted to have sex. It was strange. In the end I found out she wanted to get revenge on her gaijin boyfriend who was fucking dozens of Japanese women behind her back.[/QUOTE]I hope you gave her several earth shattering orgasms so that she's primed for more revenge fucking.

A couple more questions.

First, how do you tell an este place when walking around? I'll be staying near Shimbashi and since someone mentioned that Supergirls closed, I need to find another place.

Second, I have one night to myself but don't have a phone. I'll be getting in at about 6pm and want to try a soap. I'm Japanese-American but speak very little Japanese but never got turned away from Supergirls.

I would also "settle" for FS with a Japanese girl. .

I've read that some of the soaps ask you to call so I'm looking for one I could walk in to. With today's exchange rate, I'd like to try to keep it under 30k.

Thanks.

Two weeks ago, I was staying at Sheraton Miyako Hotel. Is there any action around Miyako hotel?

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1182425]A couple more questions.First, how do you tell an este place when walking around? I'll be staying near Shimbashi and since someone mentioned that Supergirls closed, I need to find another place.Second, I have one night to myself but don't have a phone. I'll be getting in at about 6pm and want to try a soap. I'm Japanese-American but speak very little Japanese but never got turned away from Supergirls.[/QUOTE]Supergirls wasn't an estee shop- it was a pink salon. As an alternative to Supergirls, if you go down the narrow street immediately next to where Supergirls used to be, on the left hand side is a pink salon called Pudding (very aggressive tout, who actively pursues people who at least look japanese. And the right side is Heisei Josei Gakuen, an estee shop which was mentioned earlier, but forum members who do not look Japanese have not been able to get into.As to your question, it is very difficult to know just by looking at the shop signage exacty what the shop offers, so you should do your homework on the internet, and have targets ready to go.

Hi everyone, I will be travelling to Japan soon, and will stay mainly in Tokyo. I am in need of advice, as this is my first time mongering there. I do not speak japanese, I am European, almost thirty years old.I would like some nice adresses of Health delivery (deri heru) which accept gaijin. Big plus if they have only j girls.Thanks!

[QUOTE=K1234K; 1182803]Supergirls wasn't an estee shop- it was a pink salon. As an alternative to Supergirls, if you go down the narrow street immediately next to where Supergirls used to be, on the left hand side is a pink salon called Pudding (very aggressive tout, who actively pursues people who at least look japanese. And the right side is Heisei Josei Gakuen, an estee shop which was mentioned earlier, but forum members who do not look Japanese have not been able to get into.

As to your question, it is very difficult to know just by looking at the shop signage exacty what the shop offers, so you should do your homework on the internet, and have targets ready to go.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the help. I'll try to find Pudding and will report back.

Any recs on a soap to go to where I don't have a phone. I can definitely pass for Japanese in looks but not so if I open my mouth.

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1183131]Thanks for the help. I'll try to find Pudding and will report back.

Any recs on a soap to go to where I don't have a phone. I can definitely pass for Japanese in looks but not so if I open my mouth.[/QUOTE]Just walk around Yoshiwara, and touts will call you in without any effort from yourself. Some places won't like the fact that you don't speak Japanese, but there's literally about 100 shops, so you there is always another shop to try. Be sure to ask about the "sougaku" or all included price because some signs only advertise the entrance fee which is 1/3 of the whole cost.

I've only been to Kikoushi myself [url]http://www.kikoushi-y.com/main/top.php[/url] And they definitely allow walk ins and foreigners. The price for foreigners is a good 5-10k more depending on the course length but you should easily be able to do a 90 minute course for under 30k. The girls here are a bit older than advertised (photo shop should be illegal for this business) , but the service was amazing the two times I went. The skill level of the girls I had more than made up for any photo differences.

[QUOTE=Timeoff;1182770]Two weeks ago, I was staying at Sheraton Miyako Hotel. Is there any action around Miyako hotel?[/QUOTE]Not in the immediate neighbourhood. You go go Gotanda. 10 minutes on foot, there is a small local scene (although most places are not foreigner friendly). And in the other direction, there is of course Roppongi.

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1183131]Thanks for the help. I'll try to find Pudding and will report back.

Any recs on a soap to go to where I don't have a phone. I can definitely pass for Japanese in looks but not so if I open my mouth.[/QUOTE]Google "fantasy" sopaland and yoshiwara. Then follow the instructions. As simple as that, even for a non Japanese speaking gaijin

After a long day running around Tokyo, I have decided to make a brief stop at NYNY. It is still my kind of place, and it has score a few more points tonight. I have read that someone got disappointed after one visit there. I think it is part of the game. As Tom hanks said in the film Forrest Gump: A vist at NYNY (or Champs) is like a box of chocolate. You never know what you going to get! Boy, I love boxes of chocolate! Tonight, I spent a very enjoyable time with Sakura. With my non-existent nihongo, we had great fun chatting about stuff. The service was also great. The usual pattern with such a friendly personality, I almost asked her out! Another 10k very well spent. After the shower, she proceeded to dry me up from top to bottom with a nice appetizer stop at my best friend. Then after some dfk, she went onto the bed and invited me to actually play with her. How nice. She didn't have to ask me twice. The play lasted until I offered her my millesime. One thing I am unsure of is whether she swallowed or not (newbie) I could not find any trace of. You know what I mean. If I had know that she could possibly swallow, I would have suggested another position, but hey. I am sure there will be a next time. Then a few minutes of hot towel massage then another quick chat before walking me down.Well, she has taken the first place on the podium of my short mongering career. Great personality, nice breasts. I wish I could take her out for some private action. Any of you guys know if these ladies would do some extra outside work? Now, on the train going back home, this girl keeps eyeing me as she talks to her bf. Lucky B, will probably get it tonight not expecting that the gf has closed her eyes thinking about someone else! So, once again, NYNY has my full recommendation.

[QUOTE=Shatneresque; 1153274]The place for big boobs is Cutie Bomb. You will need Japanese ability though.

[url]www.1919ikebukuro.com[/url][/QUOTE]Saw the post and the website so decided to check it out. You can get service even if you're not Japanese but as Shat stated, you will need to speak Japanese. Followed the direction on the website, went to the 5th floor and a tencho is sitting there on a desk. He'll show you pictures of the girls available and will ask you to pick a Love Hotel in the area. When you get to the hotel, you call the office and tell them your room. In 15 minutes, the girl shows up.

The girl I picked was't as sexy as the picture. Her boobs weren't as big as it appears on the picture but looking back at the website later, I think it's her. Looks like she was squeezing her boobs to make her cleavage look better in the pictures. She was really short and had a plump belly.

She was friendly and service was not bad. BBBJ. 69 and titty fucking or paizuri as they say in Japan. Some sumatra but she would not allow penetration.

I'll go back and check out another girl.

[QUOTE=Smith Ed;1181316]Actually I have the same question from the last post. With the recent closed down of sarans and several other korean FS shops, is there anything left? Haven't went out much since the earthquake and my workload got intensed up until now. So anyone knows any FS shops (I got bored with soapland also they are quite expensive) Chinese or Korean, please post it. Having my buddies coming over for the weekends. But jsut don't know where to go anymore.[/QUOTE]I found a load of places in Sugamo and Otsuka that should be FS Esutes. I checked out a couple and written reports on them, but as is the way with these shops they're now closed. Here's the list of places I haven't had a chance to check out yet for anyone who is interested. Also has anyone been to a good Korean delivery place recently?

Otsuka.

[url]http://www.o-candy.com/menu.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.o-fullhouse.com/menu.htm[/url]

[url]http://sweet-girl.info/top.html[/url]

Sugamo.

[url]http://catgirls-club.com/top.html[/url]

[url]http://www.sexybeam-s.biz/home.php.htm[/url]

[url]http://sugamo-celebrity.com/top.html[/url]

[url]http://www.onegai-darling.info/top.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1183808]I found a load of places in Sugamo and Otsuka that should be FS Esutes. I checked out a couple and written reports on them, but as is the way with these shops they're now closed. Here's the list of places I haven't had a chance to check out yet for anyone who is interested. Also has anyone been to a good Korean delivery place recently? Otsuka.[url]http://www.o-candy.com/menu.htm[/url][url]http://www.o-fullhouse.com/menu.htm[/url][url]http://sweet-girl.info/top.html[/url]Sugamo.[url]http://catgirls-club.com/top.html[/url][url]http://www.sexybeam-s.biz/home.php.htm[/url][url]http://sugamo-celebrity.com/top.html[/url][url]http://www.onegai-darling.info/top.php[/url][/QUOTE]Gotanda.[url]http://www.es-raku.com/main.html[/url]There is another one that I got touted near Emotion on the other side of the station where there are other shops as well, but didn't get inside this time.

A couple of days ago I again went to the place I mentioned last year in Shimbashi called Tiara. Website is [url]www.s-tiara.net/i/[/url]

Price is 6000-9000 depending on what time you go-the later it is, the more expensive it is.

I got a 23 yo named Hotaru who I am pretty sure I had last year at Supergirls. No problem getting in and was given a member's card which I think gets a 1000 yen discount. I'd be happy to give it to someone because I can't carry it around.

I was walking around Shimbashi and saw a lot of signs with prices a little less than Tiara-are they the same type of deal? I did also see Pudding but I couldn't remember what was said about it so I didn't go in.

What about all of the massage places around?

Any FS places with a Japanese girl around Shimbashi? Maybe even Korean? I go to Hong Kong a lot so I get my fill of Chinese there.

I just wrote a long report on my trip to Yoshiwara including everything that happened step by step to get some feedback and hopefully help others out who don't know the routine but when I went to submit it, I had to log in to the internet again because my 24hrs was up and I lost the report.

To summarize, I went to Minowa and walked over, was invited in to every place I passed and stopped in King's Club but the tout told me 32, 500 for 80 minutes so I left.

I ended up at Fantasy and the price said 23, 000 for 80 minutes. I didn't open my mouth and pointed to a girl and then the tout asked what course so I pointed to the 80 minute course. He said something about a discount and gave it to me for 21, 000.

I ended up getting Riona who is 21 and speaks excellent English because she lived in Australia for 3 years. She speaks better than most of the hotel staff in the 5 star Conrad hotel I stayed at.

One thing to note is that I had to ask for the soapy massage and it was a great experience. I have had something similar in Manila, Hong Kong and Macau at better prices but it was still a great experience.

At the end, I was given a ride back to Minowa station. I just wish I hadn't lost my other report.

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1184334]I just wrote a long report on my trip to Yoshiwara including everything that happened step by step to get some feedback and hopefully help others out who don't know the routine but when I went to submit it, I had to log in to the internet again because my 24hrs was up and I lost the report.

To summarize, I went to Minowa and walked over, was invited in to every place I passed and stopped in King's Club but the tout told me 32, 500 for 80 minutes so I left.

I ended up at Fantasy and the price said 23, 000 for 80 minutes. I didn't open my mouth and pointed to a girl and then the tout asked what course so I pointed to the 80 minute course. He said something about a discount and gave it to me for 21, 000.

I ended up getting Riona who is 21 and speaks excellent English because she lived in Australia for 3 years. She speaks better than most of the hotel staff in the 5 star Conrad hotel I stayed at.

One thing to note is that I had to ask for the soapy massage and it was a great experience. I have had something similar in Manila, Hong Kong and Macau at better prices but it was still a great experience.

At the end, I was given a ride back to Minowa station. I just wish I hadn't lost my other report.[/QUOTE]You did very well. Seems that business conditions are getting worst for the shops. Are you Japanese looking? If not, it's the first time I hear a gaijin getting this deal for less than 27ooo, that's including the gaijin surcharge. And yes, I think I mentionned in one my previous report that you have to ask to get the mat play.

Any way, still a few months before my next visit. I hope those deals will still be around by then.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1184344]You did very well. Seems that business conditions are getting worst for the shops. Are you Japanese looking? If not, it's the first time I hear a gaijin getting this deal for less than 27ooo, that's including the gaijin surcharge. And yes, I think I mentionned in one my previous report that you have to ask to get the mat play.

Any way, still a few months before my next visit. I hope those deals will still be around by then.[/QUOTE]Yes, I do look Japanese even though I dressed like an American. I was still invited into every shop I passed.

Any idea why I was given the discount from 23, 000 to 21, 000?

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1184344]You did very well. Seems that business conditions are getting worst for the shops. Are you Japanese looking? If not, it's the first time I hear a gaijin getting this deal for less than 27ooo, that's including the gaijin surcharge. And yes, I think I mentionned in one my previous report that you have to ask to get the mat play.Any way, still a few months before my next visit. I hope those deals will still be around by then.[/QUOTE]Fantasy. Formerly Kings Club. Is very reliable. No problem for gaijin who speak no Japanese. Totally white here.

[QUOTE=Nino;1183369]Not in the immediate neighbourhood. You go go Gotanda. 10 minutes on foot, there is a small local scene (although most places are not foreigner friendly). And in the other direction, there is of course Roppongi.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nino.

Do you know of any specific place in Gotanda?

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1184349]Yes, I do look Japanese even though I dressed like an American. I was still invited into every shop I passed.

Any idea why I was given the discount from 23, 000 to 21, 000?[/QUOTE]Last January, although I am and look like a white middle aged caucasian, I also was stopped by more than half of the touts in Yoshiwara. But always got the gaijin price, minimum 27000. Not only did you get the "local" price, but an additionnal 2000 reduction. Clearly, very bad business conditions for those businesses just now. Well let's take it as it lasts.

Visited NYNY for the first time on Friday and, after a full night of train-hopping, bathtime had never been more welcome! Thanks to another board that posted these directions,"NYNY is very easy to find. When you leave either JR or Keisei Ueno stn. (main exit) turn right and walk along the main road for 3 5 minutes. Pass McDonald's, cross Shinobazu-dori (dori means road) and turn right at the next intersection to enter the RLD. On the second intersection turn left, then right and just ahead you will find NYNY and its Statue of Liberty."

Received a 'do not do' list in english, paid 9800yen, and was directed into a small waiting room to wait 5 minutes. Picked up by Anzu (sp) .37yo slim, bee cups with nice face (7/10) and great attitude. Went upstairs through a narrow hallway and into our 'room, ' where we attempted to have a brief conversation that got the basics out of the way. Both undressed and she had me sit on a plastic stool to wash me down, paying nice attention to everything with soapy lather, called me handsome (in perfect, practiced english) , and then soaked in the small tub while we both rinsed our mouths with a wash. DFK, back to the bed / table for some great BBBJ, BL, rim with great eye contact that drives the excitement level a notch. Then switched to 69 until CIM. Some more conversation about her regular job outside of NYNY and then clean up and mouth rinse again. Hugged, dressed, hugged, and walked out into the nasty humidity.

Overall, this visit was a 8/10. First time service in Japan, past experience in German FKK scene (Palace, World, Oase).

I want to try it all at some point (pink salons, esute, soaplands, etc.). I'm a gaijin asian-am w / little to no nihongo. Recommendations welcome!

[QUOTE=Shawnro; 1184775]Visited NYNY for the first time on Friday and, after a full night of train-hopping, bathtime had never been more welcome! Thanks to another board that posted these directions,"NYNY is very easy to find. When you leave either JR or Keisei Ueno stn. (main exit) turn right and walk along the main road for 3 5 minutes. Pass McDonald's, cross Shinobazu-dori (dori means road) and turn right at the next intersection to enter the RLD. On the second intersection turn left, then right and just ahead you will find NYNY and its Statue of Liberty."

Received a 'do not do' list in english, paid 9800yen, and was directed into a small waiting room to wait 5 minutes. Picked up by Anzu (sp).37yo slim, bee cups with nice face (7/10) and great attitude. Went upstairs through a narrow hallway and into our 'room, ' where we attempted to have a brief conversation that got the basics out of the way. Both undressed and she had me sit on a plastic stool to wash me down, paying nice attention to everything with soapy lather, called me handsome (in perfect, practiced english) , and then soaked in the small tub while we both rinsed our mouths with a wash. DFK, back to the bed / table for some great BBBJ, BL, rim with great eye contact that drives the excitement level a notch. Then switched to 69 until CIM. Some more conversation about her regular job outside of NYNY and then clean up and mouth rinse again. Hugged, dressed, hugged, and walked out into the nasty humidity.

Overall, this visit was a 8/10. First time service in Japan, past experience in German FKK scene (Palace, World, Oase).

I want to try it all at some point (pink salons, esute, soaplands, etc.). I'm a gaijin asian-am w / little to no nihongo. Recommendations welcome![/QUOTE]Check this thread for Hinomaru, jan jan (pink salons) and fantasy yoshiwara (for soaplands).

Stumbled upon a place called Hips-Okachimachi ([url]http://www.hips-okachimachi.com/[/url]) via Erolin, and I must say the prices almost looks too good to be true. 60 minutes is 10k. 90 is 14k, etc, sounds really low for DH. Is there a catch I'm not seeing here? The girls look mostly good (but not so good I suspect there's a lot of photoshopping) , and even their sister shops have higher rates.

How are you guys doing,

Arriving in Narita Airport, any good suggestions of a quick and close by place? Unfortunately I only know little to no Nihongo.

Thanks in advance, will post report after the experience. Try to get a photo too if possible.

[QUOTE=Fishing6211; 1185388]How are you guys doing,

Arriving in Narita Airport, any good suggestions of a quick and close by place? Unfortunately I only know little to no Nihongo.

Thanks in advance, will post report after the experience. Try to get a photo too if possible.[/QUOTE]RTFF. Question already asked and answered a million times. Pl take at least 5 seconds to search for "Narita" and a few minutes to read the answers.

The providers definitely look like B-Team girls even with possible Photoshopping. Notice how most are short and plump. If you don't get FS then the pricing may be right given the economy and a new competitor on the block trying to reel in new customers.

Had a go at Emotion ([url]http://emotion.vc/index.html[/url]) The tout only offered the 8000 yen two-girl course, which seems to be the norm for gaijin customers.The first girl was a bit meaty, but very friendly, slowed down for me when I asked her to, and gave me a good value for her time.Unfortunately these days, once I pop, its hard to go again so quick.She covered me with a towel and left me for the second girl, a really slim one (Chihiro).She gave it the old college try and was able to get my son up and hard, but not to a point of fruitful conclusion. Still a very good service!

[QUOTE=Zekelk; 1185375]Stumbled upon a place called Hips-Okachimachi (

[url]http://www.hips-okachimachi.com/[/url]

) via Erolin, and I must say the prices almost looks too good to be true. 60 minutes is 10k. 90 is 14k, etc, sounds really low for DH. Is there a catch I'm not seeing here? The girls look mostly good (but not so good I suspect there's a lot of photoshopping) , and even their sister shops have higher rates.[/QUOTE]Their tagline is "choi pochi-rori", which basically means "slightly chubby & loli-con". Which seems to be what you get. Plus their service appears to be very basic.

ES

I was walking around Shimbashi the other day and the first street to the left as you exit the station has a place with some girls dressed in school uniforms standing out front. I think the name is school girls and I thought I saw a sign somewhere down the road saying it was a Pink Salon for 6000. Anyone know about it? Girls were older than Tiara but decent looking.

Also, the ones with similar pricing to Tiara 6000, 7000, 8000, 9000 or so within certain timeframes-are those also Pinks?

Has anyone else used the pint system deai sites? (wakuwaku, mint, pcmail, etc) I've been able to set up meetings with non-pro girls with some good to so-so results, but always FS, the price being between 1 to 2man.It's quite possible to register to all of them, send a proof you are over 18 (a censored gaijin card just showing the date of birth by email is OK) , and you get enough points to set up one or 2 meetings before you need to buy points.If anyone else is using them, we could introduce each other to the sites to get free points.For those unfamiliar, those sites have 100s of girls looking for "a date". The section called "ima sugu aitai" let's meet now, is 95% p2p, lots of girls between 18-25, you can sort by age, location, etc.From experience. 70% will reply to me even after saying I'm Caucasian. The running price is 2man +hotel for ST, but you can negotiate, the other option is posting saying you are a foreigner and wait for them to contact, but because of the huge volume of posts, chances are your post will get lost. I do get replies from those post, when they ask what I offer, I'll try 1man and might get the OK. Also important is to ask what's OK and not, some girl will do GFE, kiss, f. 2 pops, while MANY will say once, no kiss no f, (I had a gyaru that was just a tuna and it was really bad. I got smarter after, I realized she posted almost everyday so she was a pro turning dozens of tricks a day, while another spoke English, was very GFE and basically said I could name my own price after the fun was done, she said she posted or met a guy about once or twice a month) It's VERY easy to loose a lot of money just browsing (10 yen to see a posting. 50 yen to send a mail. 20-30 yen to see a photo) , but if you can control yourself and be direct in your mails, it's easy to set up a meeting with 4-5 mails (200-300 yen + profile view etc). Usually you get 1000 to 3000yen of free points to join, but you can only join once and need to input your cell phone number.Oh, you need to be FLUENT in Japanese.Anyway, if you have any Qs or experience to share, go ahead!

[QUOTE=Kish1970; 1185566]Had a go at Emotion[url]http://emotion.vc/index.html[/url]The tout only offered the 8000 yen two-girl course, which seems to be the norm for gaijin customers.The first girl was a bit meaty, but very friendly, slowed down for me when I asked her to, and gave me a good value for her time.Unfortunately these days, once I pop, its hard to go again so quick.She covered me with a towel and left me for the second girl, a really slim one (Chihiro).She gave it the old college try and was able to get my son up and hard, but not to a point of fruitful conclusion. Still a very good service![/QUOTE]Just for info, what time did you go there? Weekday or weekend?

I would like to try Rankou soon (somebody posted something about it in this forum).Has anyone participated in those "parties" or is interested as well? I found 3 internet sites quite easily just by google, but didn't call them yet.Thanks

Has anybody used this service before? [url]http://www.moenorinjin.net/index2.html[/url]Can you explain the system? Are gaijin accepted?

I visited Yoshiwara on a weekday afternoon by walking all the way from Minowa metro line. It takes about 10 to 15 minutes. My first stop was Olive House which boasts a large selection of young pretty girls. I look Japanese and can speak it quite well but my accent gives me away. So I walked into reception and saw a guy behind the counter and a bouncer type guy standing outside the counter. I was asked immediately if I had an appointment. The counter had a picture selection of about 12 girls. I said I didn't then the guy behind the counter told me that no girls were available and it was necessary to make an appointment. I thought that was strange as the sign outside (in Japanese of course) said that walk-ins were welcome. I then asked which girls he recommend. He looked disappointed that I didn't take the "hint" and then told me that it was Japanese only. So I said "so desu ka" and left. It's disappointing to get rejected but that is the name of the game here.

Dusting myself off I walked 20 seconds to Fantasy. By grunting I was able to get 20, 000yen for 80 minutes and picked Ai. The photo makes her look very pretty but in reality she is a little plump. Having said that she was very friendly and did her best to give me a great time. Service is as described by others, mat play and then bed. After my time was up I was walking to the exit when the tencho tried to talk to me asking how the girl was. I told him that the service was fine. He kind of apologized that Ai was a "glamour". I think that is a nice way of saying she is a little chubby. I told him that she was fine and I enjoyed the service. So if you want the soapland experience then this place delivers but the girls aren't so young and hot as other places.

[QUOTE=Herpes;1186237]Just for info, what time did you go there? Weekday or weekend?[/QUOTE]Weekday evening.

I rang up all sorts of places advertising a 3P course on their website and only one place could actually provide that course, but it was not GF.Has anyone actually successfully had a 3P course somewhere? There doesn't seem to be much on the forum about the topic either.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1186959]I rang up all sorts of places advertising a 3P course on their website and only one place could actually provide that course, but it was not GF.Has anyone actually successfully had a 3P course somewhere? There doesn't seem to be much on the forum about the topic either.[/QUOTE]Hi in my own experience, I've had 3P once with a KDH (can't remember the name). Quite pricy, but young sexy K-girls. It was my 1st experience, so the 1st shot came quite quickly within a few minutes, and for the second shot, only 1 girl was "seriously" participating. So a mixed experience. The 2 girls were quite friendly, but IMHO the worst thing about that is that the 2 girls spoke sometimes in Korean between themselves so I felt like an intruder.I had a 3P course in a Nishi Nippori massage place for quite cheap (11k or so) , RTFF, I don't know if the place is still around.I found by myself with fuzoku. Jp, did my homework and got a nice 3P with two friendly girls, one Chinese + one thai, they werent as hot as the 2 kgirls, but they made effort in the service.Actually that day I don't remember being able to f*ck either of them I had too much stress.Then my last experience, actually is from today! I was quite nervous before hand.I managed to book for a Rankou party. I won't give a lot of details, because I'm afraid it would ruin everything if some stupid dude goes there and behaves stupidly.I'd just say that I found the place rather easily with Google. Anyone speaking japanese can find it.My Jap is 2-kyu level and I was welcomed to that place, after being rejected for being gaijin at another. Cost 20k, went in a 2nd Tier hotel in Shinjuku. 2 nice J-girls. 5 guys. I don't know why, but I had difficulties to come. I was with the 1st girl (almost) only for me for nearly 45 mns without being able to come, and OMG she liked me giving it to her cause I was hard most of the time, screaming and coming so many times! Actually I didn't come with her, I paused and then could have fun with the second girl.I thought I'd mess up as always, but I really was the "star" of the day, I didn't think I could ever have S*X like this! It was also very exciting to do it in front of other guys, and seeing other people doing it.I felt I was in a AV movie.They were not 10/10 girls, but definitely both sexy and ETCHI, one in her 40s, and the other in late 20s / 30s? As a foreign guest, you get a lot of attention, and I had to do some social talk and make efforts expressing myself in Japanese. Thus I wouldn't recommend the place to shy persons, and to non-japanese speaking guys. The manager told me some american guys dropped by sometimes.There is a guy not partipating, just watching everything is all right, no foul play allowed, no Anal, no DP, hes watching belongings, no fear on this side. He told me the Ads on the website are a bit fake.If 5 girls are advertised, there may be only 2 or 3, and so on.All in all, at 20k for 3hours with nice and fun girls, and socializing with people, if you can adapt to this kind of situation, its a much cheaper and enjoyable deal than an este or DH.Will I do it again? I bet I will, but I think thats the kind of stuff you can really get addicted to, and f*ck your mind!

I'm in Shinjuku right now, where should I go for soapland or hotel health service.

[QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1186422]Has anybody used this service before? [url]http://www.moenorinjin.net/index2.html[/url]Can you explain the system? Are gaijin accepted?[/QUOTE]If anyone with Japanese skill would be willing to call or get info, I'll check this place out this weekend and report on it. I dunno if a call and a simPle "gaijin daijubu?" would suffice.Thank you in advance to anyone willing to help.

[QUOTE=DTF76;1187313]I'm in Shinjuku right now, where should I go for soapland or hotel health service.[/QUOTE]I have not been in Tokyo as a single person for a long time. However, you might take a train to the Yoshiwara area near Asakusa. You can read more about that on this site. You will probably not get a Japanese girl but many of the touts have Thai girls or non Japanese girls. Many posters on here talk about the Gotanda area. My advice is to go out with a person who lives in Japan.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1186959]Has anyone actually successfully had a 3P course somewhere? There doesn't seem to be much on the forum about the topic either.[/QUOTE]Asian Mystique. I posted here about my 3P experience with them, and it should still be in the Posts of Distinction section.

One of the girls is gone (Manami) and the other I'd not clicked with nor was she into girl-play (Mako) , but I would give AM another go with different girls. I'd choose the girls differently this time, of course. Rather than choose both and have zero chemistry between the two of them, I'll instead choose one and have her recommend the second girl. Too bad Kumi is gone, too; she would be perfect with Manami!

I'll be in the area again in three weeks (during the Korean 5-day harvest holiday) , so I'll worry about who and where once I get there.

[QUOTE=DTF76;1187313]I'm in Shinjuku right now, where should I go for soapland or hotel health service.[/QUOTE]RTFF and ask specific questions afterwards.

[QUOTE=Pointpanic;1187442]I have not been in Tokyo as a single person for a long time. However, you might take a train to the Yoshiwara area near Asakusa. You can read more about that on this site. You will probably not get a Japanese girl but many of the touts have Thai girls or non Japanese girls. Many posters on here talk about the Gotanda area. My advice is to go out with a person who lives in Japan.[/QUOTE]All the girls in the Yoshiwara soaplands are japanese.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1149788]I had Manami when she was still at AM, that goes back probably 3-4 years back. She was, then, fantastic. Whether she still is today, I don't know. I fear that she may be a bit worn out, now that she works for herself.[/QUOTE]I've been with her several times, before and after her AM days, and she is still the sexual dynamo. Course, YMMV depending when during the day / week you book with her and if you get her just after or before one of her many vacations.

Anyone have any suggestion on which one I should visit in Asakusa? And what is the avg price. Not looking to spend too much.

Anyone have any suggestion on which one I should be visiting in Asakusa? And has anyone try this one below? [url]http://www.dream7000.com/index2.php[/url]

[QUOTE=SgtKreoss; 1187315]If anyone with Japanese skill would be willing to call or get info, I'll check this place out this weekend and report on it. I dunno if a call and a simPle "gaijin daijubu?" would suffice.

Thank you in advance to anyone willing to help.[/QUOTE]Hi Sergeant:

Always proud to help out a servicemember (if that's what you are).

Tried calling Moenorinjin just now, they said that "Gaikokujin are OK", provided that they meet the two requirements: 1) they must understand that the service is "no FS", and 2) they must be able to speak and understand Japanese.

Assuming those two points are met, the papa-san who answered the phone was definitely enthusiastic about gaikokujin coming to visit.

Hope that helps,

UG

It seems like the esute scene at Takadanobaba rotates weekly, with old establishments getting busted and new ones popping out all over the place. Thought you guys might be interested in some Chinese FS esute action.

Here are the websites:

[url]http://angelkiss2.info/access.php[/url]

[url]http://t-nurse.info/top.php[/url]

[url]http://www.sale-girl.info/access.php[/url]

All the sites basically say to get out the Waseda exit of Takadanobaba station (JR) , and then call the establishment and they will give you directions (in Japanese).

I haven't had a chance to check these places out yet, but the web site design matches all the prior Chinese FS esute establishments.

For those who don't know the routine, call from Takadanobaba station, follow the directions to the establishment. Be polite, take off your shoes, and pay your money (some of these places have recession-era discounts for now, that may change). Usually about 8, 000 yen. Pick a girl out from the photos. She will come to greet you in a few minutes, while you wait in the waiting area. She will take you to a curtained booth, where you take off your clothes, and then she will give you a towel to cover yourself while the two of you go to take a shower. After the shower, you get a (usually lousy) massage, and then P4P action, including FS. BE NICE TO THE GIRLS, or you will ruin it for all the other gaijin dudes out here.

If you get a chance, don't forget to upload a report.

[QUOTE=Herpes; 1187079]Hi in my own experience, I've had 3P once with a KDH (can't remember the name). Quite pricy, but young sexy K-girls. It was my 1st experience, so the 1st shot came quite quickly within a few minutes, and for the second shot, only 1 girl was "seriously" participating. So a mixed experience. The 2 girls were quite friendly, but IMHO the worst thing about that is that the 2 girls spoke sometimes in Korean between themselves so I felt like an intruder.I had a 3P course in a Nishi Nippori massage place for quite cheap (11k or so) , RTFF, I don't know if the place is still around.I found by myself with fuzoku. Jp, did my homework and got a nice 3P with two friendly girls, one Chinese + one thai, they werent as hot as the 2 kgirls, but they made effort in the service.Actually that day I don't remember being able to f*ck either of them I had too much stress.Then my last experience, actually is from today! I was quite nervous before hand.I managed to book for a Rankou party. I won't give a lot of details, because I'm afraid it would ruin everything if some stupid dude goes there and behaves stupidly.I'd just say that I found the place rather easily with Google. Anyone speaking japanese can find it.My Jap is 2-kyu level and I was welcomed to that place, after being rejected for being gaijin at another. Cost 20k, went in a 2nd Tier hotel in Shinjuku. 2 nice J-girls. 5 guys. I don't know why, but I had difficulties to come. I was with the 1st girl (almost) only for me for nearly 45 mns without being able to come, and OMG she liked me giving it to her cause I was hard most of the time, screaming and coming so many times! Actually I didn't come with her, I paused and then could have fun with the second girl.I thought I'd mess up as always, but I really was the "star" of the day, I didn't think I could ever have S*X like this! It was also very exciting to do it in front of other guys, and seeing other people doing it.I felt I was in a AV movie.They were not 10/10 girls, but definitely both sexy and ETCHI, one in her 40s, and the other in late 20s / 30s? As a foreign guest, you get a lot of attention, and I had to do some social talk and make efforts expressing myself in Japanese. Thus I wouldn't recommend the place to shy persons, and to non-japanese speaking guys. The manager told me some american guys dropped by sometimes.There is a guy not partipating, just watching everything is all right, no foul play allowed, no Anal, no DP, hes watching belongings, no fear on this side. He told me the Ads on the website are a bit fake.If 5 girls are advertised, there may be only 2 or 3, and so on.All in all, at 20k for 3hours with nice and fun girls, and socializing with people, if you can adapt to this kind of situation, its a much cheaper and enjoyable deal than an este or DH.Will I do it again? I bet I will, but I think thats the kind of stuff you can really get addicted to, and f*ck your mind![/QUOTE]Thanks for your post about Rankou. I've always been interested but this was just the kick that I needed to do it.I found it to be as easy as you mentioned as well. Did a google search and quickly had a list of places. I called one up and asked if the event today was still open. They immediately asked for my name. I gave the fake Japanese name I always use. And then they asked if I had been there before. I said no, and they just said call when I get to the south exit of Sugamo. I did and they directed me about 80% of the way there and told me to call back. When I did, they came out and got me and guided me the rest of the way.I got there at about 2. 45pm during obon and it was pretty crowded. There were probably 16 guys and 6 girls when I got there. It was 1. 8k and that was for 4 hours of as many times as you can go. There was a second floor where all the action was going on and it had 3 futons set up basically touching each other. So there were 3 couples going at it at any one time all in plain view of each other. When a futon opened up, you just mentioned that you wanted to go with girl X and the two of you went upstairs and went at it. After being turned away from hordes of places, I was surprised at how friendly they were towards me. As long as I could communicate it was fine. It was just in someone's apartment so we all used the shower and in between it was just basically sitting around, hearing other people going at it and watching TV.It was definitely a different experience. The girls were in their 20s and 30s, but they were only about average. For the same price you can get a knock out girl in Shibuya if you look hard enough, so if you're a one shot kinda guy then Rankou might not be the best option for you. But it's definitely worth doing once, if only to see into another world.

Do the girls come to your place, or do you have to meet them at a love hotel? Also, am I reading correctly that there is an option to take pics of the girls with your cell phone? [QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1187595]Hi Sergeant:Always proud to help out a servicemember (if that's what you are).Tried calling Moenorinjin just now, they said that "Gaikokujin are OK", provided that they meet the two requirements: 1) they must understand that the service is "no FS", and 2) they must be able to speak and understand Japanese.Assuming those two points are met, the papa-san who answered the phone was definitely enthusiastic about gaikokujin coming to visit.Hope that helps, UG[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1187797]Do the girls come to your place, or do you have to meet them at a love hotel?

Also, am I reading correctly that there is an option to take pics of the girls with your cell phone?[/QUOTE]According to the website, you go to the establishment (there is a map) , and then take the girl to a love hotel nearby.

There is a Y3, 000 option to take 2 Polaroids; I don't see anything about keitai pictures, so I don't know.

Hope that helps, post a report if you do go.

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1187599]It seems like the esute scene at Takadanobaba rotates weekly, with old establishments getting busted and new ones popping out all over the place. Thought you guys might be interested in some Chinese FS esute action.Here are the websites:[url]http://angelkiss2.info/access.php[/url][url]http://t-nurse.info/top.php[/url][url]http://www.sale-girl.info/access.php[/url]All the sites basically say to get out the Waseda exit of Takadanobaba station (JR) , and then call the establishment and they will give you directions (in Japanese).I haven't had a chance to check these places out yet, but the web site design matches all the prior Chinese FS esute establishments.For those who don't know the routine, call from Takadanobaba station, follow the directions to the establishment. Be polite, take off your shoes, and pay your money (some of these places have recession-era discounts for now, that may change). Usually about 8, 000 yen. Pick a girl out from the photos. She will come to greet you in a few minutes, while you wait in the waiting area. She will take you to a curtained booth, where you take off your clothes, and then she will give you a towel to cover yourself while the two of you go to take a shower. After the shower, you get a (usually lousy) massage, and then P4P action, including FS. BE NICE TO THE GIRLS, or you will ruin it for all the other gaijin dudes out here.If you get a chance, don't forget to upload a report.[/QUOTE]So far, I have been to two Chinese FS esute establishments close to Sugamo station. One thing that I hate about them is that the photos that they put on their websites are fake. The ladies are much older than they look on their websites. Why do they do this? I am put off and I don't want to go back there anymore. I better spend a smaller amount for a 35 min BBBJ + CIM service by a much younger Japanese girl with a lot of GFE at gaijin friendly pinsaro.

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1187595]Hi Sergeant:

Always proud to help out a servicemember (if that's what you are).

Tried calling Moenorinjin just now, they said that "Gaikokujin are OK", provided that they meet the two requirements: 1) they must understand that the service is "no FS", and 2) they must be able to speak and understand Japanese.

Assuming those two points are met, the papa-san who answered the phone was definitely enthusiastic about gaikokujin coming to visit.

Hope that helps,

UG[/QUOTE]Did you guys catch the link on the bottom right of Moenorinjin's page.

[url]http://www.nantaiclub.com/index2.html[/url]

I'm guessing the more high end / specialty type establishments like this one may be off limits for us. But that doesn't make it any less fun to think about.

If somebody would want to have some sort of bachelor party for 6-7 people, and a budget of 10-15 man, what would get you the best bang for the buck? Any idea's are appreciated.I was thinking about getting a large hotel room (which I couldn't find so far) , tons of booze, and get a couple of strippers from roppongi to spend a couple of hours.I'm guessing not many places will accept a bunch of drunk foreigners (couple of fluent nihongo speakers, but no natives).Anybody know something like "no-pants shabu shabu" that might let us in?

I was walking around Uguisudani and decided to check out one of the information booths. The booth guy welcomed me and asked me what kind of girl / services I was looking for, and I said "I don't know yet," in Japanese (that's why I went to an info booth!) , then the guy said "what do you mean you don't know? You're not Japanese are you?" then told me to leave. I was a bit shocked by the rudeness but it happens. I went next door to the info booth with a big green sign and this guy was much friendlier. After talking to him a bit and deciding that I wanted a Korean girl with a "kubire" waist he recommended this place [url]http://www.ml-dh.com/main.php[/url] He first called the store to check availabilities then showed me pictures and video of the available girls. He said the mama san recommended "Best" and said that she's always in high demand but at this moment she was free. I saw the pictures and the tiny video and thought "WOW, sure I'll give her a shot." The info booth guy told me the obvious that the pictures are photo shopped so the girl may not be as beautiful as the pictures, but I definitely liked his honesty.I wandered over to a love hotel, called the number he gave me to alert the store to where the girl should meet me, and she showed up 20 minutes later. All I have to say is holy shit she was beautiful. It was the first time I saw the actual person be far more attractive than the photo shopped photos. They really should've just left her photos alone. She also had one hell of a body, but unfortunately the jubblies were definitely fake. Her service was very standard. Absolutely nothing special and she definitely looked like she was a bit tired from her work. After the second shower we just sat and chatted for a bit. She doesn't speak English and speaks only a little Japanese, so the conversation was a bit awkward if I'm honest.Total damage was 20, 000 for the service and 4830 for the hotel. It wasn't cheap and I'll admit I had better service for much less (I really miss Saranes and Nana who was amazing). Would I go again? Call me a sucker, but if I had excess money lying around yes, because the girl was probably the best looking girl I've ever met. If I didn't have excess money to blow though I think I would try a different girl.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1188249]I was walking around Uguisudani and decided to check out one of the information booths. The booth guy welcomed me and asked me what kind of girl / services I was looking for, and I said "I don't know yet," in Japanese (that's why I went to an info booth!) , then the guy said "what do you mean you don't know? You're not Japanese are you?" then told me to leave. I was a bit shocked by the rudeness but it happens. I went next door to the info booth with a big green sign and this guy was much friendlier. After talking to him a bit and deciding that I wanted a Korean girl with a "kubire" waist he recommended this place.[url]http://www.ml-dh.com/main.php[/url]He first called the store to check availabilities then showed me pictures and video of the available girls. He said the mama san recommended "Best" and said that she's always in high demand but at this moment she was free. I saw the pictures and the tiny video and thought "WOW, sure I'll give her a shot." The info booth guy told me the obvious that the pictures are photo shopped so the girl may not be as beautiful as the pictures, but I definitely liked his honesty.I wandered over to a love hotel, called the number he gave me to alert the store to where the girl should meet me, and she showed up 20 minutes later. All I have to say is holy shit she was beautiful. It was the first time I saw the actual person be far more attractive than the photo shopped photos. They really should've just left her photos alone. She also had one hell of a body, but unfortunately the jubblies were definitely fake. Her service was very standard. Absolutely nothing special and she definitely looked like she was a bit tired from her work. After the second shower we just sat and chatted for a bit. She doesn't speak English and speaks only a little Japanese, so the conversation was a bit awkward if I'm honest.Total damage was 20, 000 for the service and 4830 for the hotel. It wasn't cheap and I'll admit I had better service for much less (I really miss Saranes and Nana who was amazing). Would I go again? Call me a sucker, but if I had excess money lying around yes, because the girl was probably the best looking girl I've ever met. If I didn't have excess money to blow though I think I would try a different girl.[/QUOTE]My experience with various KDH is about the same: not cheap; girls usually hot looking, but not necessarily cooperative and with a bad attitude. I would insist on someone who speaks english or jap to favour communication, and maybe if you like the girl and ask her a 2nd time she might show a better attitude. But anyway definitely not cheap. Whats "good" is that 3P is often an option, and I'm sure (not tried though) you can insist on finding some girl who does AF.

Hi guys, Today I felt like rankouing again, Monday was so high in my mind.I called another provider. High end hotel in shinjuku again.The system a bit different than the other day as can enter anytime of the day, instead of lets say 3pm or 6pm for a limited time.And I must honestly say today, that it sucked really bad. I should have stayed away from it, and call the guy from the other day.First, although he said Gaijin ok no problem the guy on the phone wasnt friendly at all. I should have taken heed from it.When I entered, I negotiate the time, it was hot today, and I really felt going at it before, but I should have thought a bit more before answering to the guy.I said 4 hours (18, 000). He then gave me 4 chips, which actually means ok for 4 shots with 4 different (or same) girls.Actually a quick look would have shown me there were 4 girls, but they were all really ugly (remember the other day, I would rate the 2 girls 6 to 8 on looks. 9 or 10 on attitude) 3 girls were debu, very chubby, ugly faces, DEBU (only good point is big tits) , and the last one, very small not a pretty face, ugly legs.I was already feeling disgusted.Their techniques were quite bad, they were quite passive, on top of that, their attitude was very bad.The 1st girl, wasnt making any efforts, and because of that, at some stage, even I started f*ckin her, my dick softened a bit, and instead of sucking it to try it to make it stand it again, asked to finish with a HJ but I said no, I don't like HJ and I didn't finish.So that was it for the 1st round.She felt a bit culprit, she said she didn't want to suck the condom, I said then ok, go for nama fella and put in a condom after next time.I used 2 chips to try this girl again with another girl for a 3P. They werent putting much of an effort, didn't play with each other. One also complained about my willys size (which is very standard for a gaijin). I tried to enjoy it, and I finally came after a while, but they didn't seem to enjoy it at all, which is very unpleasant.Moreover between rounds, all these 4 girls, rather young, were playing with their keitais or watching TV instead of trying making conversation. And the guy in charge in the room, didn't participate in the conversation, while the guy the other day was very talkative and making social time fun, like the girls the other day. More over the other day, we had 2 or 3 guys against 1 girl, I didn't see any of that today.All in all, I was quite upset, I didn't even try to use the 4th chip, even though the slim girl was probably more my type than the others, I saw her attitude, and her performance with other guys, and I preferred to give up expressing my discontent this way, even though she well deserved to be "punished".So I guess it was only beginners luck the other day.If Mondays experience was 8 or 9/10, today was rather 1 or 2/10. I'd say its quite representative of my experience with escorts, estes etc. Its much better to stick to something you like, because any way.Somehow rather quickly, something changes, the girl leaves, or you just get tired of her, and naturally you look for something different the next time. I should have kept that policy again.Next time, ill try the 1st circle again. Anyway it may be in a good while because the wife is coming back. Ill ask also advice to my new "friend". I had a drink after with a jap guy last Monday, and he may.Very well have good tips.

Several of the same girls at ml-dh. Com are also posted at k-girls. Jp, and perhaps other sites. The photos at k-girls seem more heavily PhotoShopped to me. I would imagine these girls put in a hard days work and go home tired. One might book the girl they like when she first comes on duty.

So I decided to give Delicious Delivery Health a try last night and was really impressed with the level of service I received. I'm not a very experienced monger but have lived in Korea for two years and had some fun there and have lived here for about 8 years and have tried various pink salons / esute / massage places. But was looking for something different / new so I thought I'd try delivery for a change. Here goes.

[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net[/url]

[url]http://erolin.net/?ac=top&egu=vgpqpq37qhil7o15or4vh6bop0[/url]

I got to Shinjuku about 6pm and walked down to Kabukicho to find myself a love hotel. Tried to book a room at Hotel Listro (looked really nice) however the gentlemen at the desk told me sorry Japanese only so I left. First time I'd ever been turned away from a love hotel, but oh well. Walked around a little bit and found a room for 5000y at the Sun Hotel. Not horrible but I've been in much nicer rooms, but for the price (in Shinjuku) it was more than adequate for my needs. The room was kinda laid out strange as you had to walk through the bathroom (which was huge, as big as the main room) to get to the bed.

Checked in about 7 pm and called Delicious, no answer. I did try the online reservation through Erolin, but I wouldn't waste your time with the online reservation (but it's a great resource for folks new to Japan) I called back at 7:30pm and a lady picked up. I asked in Japanese if she understood English and she did (as it says on their website) , asked her to send a girl to my Room at the Sun and she said a gal would be by there in 10 minutes. I didn't specify any preference in girl or service, all though on the system portion of their website (their is an English page button) it says that girl selection is included in the price (no additional charge). Interesting side note, the hotel had a sign posted near the door that said "the admittance of foreign girls off the road will not be tolerated". This apparently is an old policy or they quite literally mean "foreign girls off the road" because 20 minutes later a Japanese girl showed up at my door without incident.

My lady for the evening was Aki there's two on their site so here she is.

[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net/companion/girls/aki/data.html[/url]

Aki, while not quite as slender as her pictures was an absolute doll, and tall with her shoes on was just shorter than I am (I'm 5 ft 10) once she took her shoes off she was still at least 5 ft 6. She came in, said our greetings in Japanese. And walked into the bedroom to take care of the business end of things. Aki's English was just fine, not fluent but much like my Japanese she knows enough to get around and get her point across. She has a very cutesie type voice or at least maintained that throughout the service. She handed me a card with the the course prices on it. I chose the 15000 70 minute course (in hind sight the 60 minute course for 13000 would have been more than adequate, but you live you learn). Upon telling her my selection she informed me without any inquiries on my part that sex would be an additional 5000 and asked me if I was interested. I said yes and gave her 20000. As this was my first time using delivery health, the process was a bit awkward getting started. I probably seemed a bit nervous, as did she. She kinda sensed this and broke the ice by suddenly giving me a great big hug followed by several long / deep kisses. After that things were really comfortable, and really began to heat up.

Aki was an outstanding provider, textbook GFE. We began undressing each other, kissing and groping all way. She asked me to unsnap her bra while she held up her hair, which I thought was a nice touch, and I began kissing her on the neck and slid off her upper garments to revel a beautiful, natural pair of E cup breasts. Crowned by two nice brown nipples, not huge flat national geographic nipples or long pointy door stop nipples, but really nice proportionate nipples. Also a pretty good booty on her as well, if you are an ass man it probably isn't anything to write home about, but she definitely fills up the back of her pants and I found it to be an attractive feature on her. We then both undressed each other completely (She was wearing a G-string that looked like it came from a sexy maid outfit black with white lace) went to the shower. She produced some mouth wash, which we both used, then we began washing one another. Which again, was very intimate, she was very sensual when she was washing me and also allowed me to be free to let my hands roam and play with her as well (felt very much like sex in the shower with a lover). I spent a lot of time soaping up her breasts / pussy / ass, which she was getting into and reached back to wrap her arms around my neck and grind her soapy ass on my cock (like I said very into everything she did both physically and vocally). While I was having a lot of fun in the shower with her I felt it was time to move on so we rinsed / dryed off and went back to the bedroom.

We both dropped our towels and immediately went to kissing as I laid her down on the bed. After some light foreplay, she flipped me over and went to work. I'm a pretty fair skinned fellow even for a white guy, so while she was licking my nipples she got the biggest kick out of how pink they were and we both laughed about it. She worked her way down and then applied some sort of lubricant and then began a very nice BBBJ. Very playful, lots of teasing / eye contact. Lots of attention to the boys and slapping it on her tongue / face / licking all over. That sort of thing. We then started 69'ing. She is very well kept down there. Very well groomed pride patch with her pussy being shaved around her lips (very nice pussy not too tight, but not sloppy). Couldn't help but get into it and she also seemed to be on the other end. After a few minutes she slipped on a condom / lubed and rode me cowgirl for a bit. Pretty good skills in that reguard. Not too long after I flipped her over for a some doggie style. Really great, very enthusiastic / responsive. She was very wet, and pushed back very well, occasionally turning her head to make eye contact. I asked her if I was going to fast / deep and she giggled and said she was into that so to go ahead and "have fun back there". I don't think I've ever laughed so hard with my dick in a woman before. LOL. I then pulled out and began rubbing my cock on her asshole and jokingly asked "So I can have fun back here, huh?". She looked back at me with a very wry / sexy smile and gave me the "DAME!" making an X with her hands. We both laughed and then got back to business. Wasn't long until I was about ready to blow so I asked her if I could cum in her mouth and she sure (that service is listed on their website, but I'm sure all girls have their do / don't list, so though I better ask). So I laid on my back, she took of the condom and began finishing me off. I told her I was cumming in Japanese and she kept it in her mouth and then continued sucking letting it kinda drool out on her hand / my cock. She then got up went to the bathroom to rinse and then met me in the shower to get cleaned up.

Afterwards we kinda hung out for about 20 minutes. I was sitting on the couch in my towel having a smoke, she came over in her towel and lit one up and we chatted. After the smoke she straddled me and we kinda played around and chatted some more, she said I should ask for her next time. She let me play with her tits / ass some more and then we both got up got dressed. She called her work and walked me out of the hotel. I was going back to Shinjuku station and she was going the other way so we hugged and parted ways. Over all I really, really enjoyed myself and Aki was exactly the kind of experience I was looking for. At 20000 + 5000 for the hotel it wasn't the cheapest experience to be had out there, but I definitely got what I payed for and I feel it was worth every penny. This establishment was absolutely no hassle, the service was OUTSTANDING, and I kind of like the privacy / intimacy of having a girl in a hotel room as opposed to walking into an establishment and all that goes with that. If you are visiting Tokyo and don't really have the time to go hunting around or are limited by Japanese language ability. Then I'd recommend you try this.

My only real dilemma with the whole ordeal is the next time I go back I'm kind of torn between asking for Aki again and wanting to try a new gal. Also want to check out XRAY from shibuya (says the have AF / facial on the menu). But we'll see. In the mean time stay safe / have fun out there and I hope this was helpful.

[QUOTE=Captpaizuri;1188496]So I decided to give Delicious Delivery Health a try last night and was really impressed with the level of service I received. I'm not a very experienced monger but have lived in Korea for two years and had some fun there and have lived here for about 8 years and have tried various pink salons / esute / massage places. But was looking for something different / new so I thought I'd try delivery for a change. Here goes.[/QUOTE]It's good to hear about your experience at Delicious. I tried to call them up many times at different hours of the day, but it was very hard to get a hold of them.The one time they did pick up, I asked (in Japanese) for Nikoru (nicole?) , but they said she wasn't available at the moment. I didn't have another name in mind so I described the kind of girl I would like.After about 40 minutes waiting in the love hotel in Kabukicho, a girl named Miya came to my room. Like in Capt's report she offered FS for an additional 5000. She was okay, not really GFE. Afterwards we chatted and I found out that she was Chinese and that she came from Beijing. I later checked the website and I still can't find this girl's profile. She was cute, but I was a little disappointed that she was Chinese considering other Chinese estutes are cheaper.As for Xray, I have also tried them and I think I like them better than delicious. I tried Ai, she was a just a little chubbier than her picture but still fit, and she had a really cute face. Same deal as Delicious, I paid an extra 5000 for FS. Extremely nice and cute and GFE. When I called them I mentioned the tokyo nights website and they gave me a 2000 yen discount, so it ended up being 13000 for 60 minutes plus 5000 for FS and the hotel room. A little bit cheaper than Delicious but still expensive, but I would do it again, probably with Ai again.

Sounds great. I am flying through Tokyo with one night booked at the Four Seasons Tokyo at Marunouchi and would love a GFE experience with a nice Japanese girl. Will Delicious girls travel to this area? Also, I speak no Japanese. Will I be able to make the appointment by calling their number. Thanks in advance for any help.[QUOTE=Captpaizuri; 1188496]So I decided to give Delicious Delivery Health a try last night and was really impressed with the level of service I received. I'm not a very experienced monger but have lived in Korea for two years and had some fun there and have lived here for about 8 years and have tried various pink salons / esute / massage places. But was looking for something different / new so I thought I'd try delivery for a change. Here goes.[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net[/url][url]http://erolin.net/?ac=top&egu=vgpqpq37qhil7o15or4vh6bop0[/url]I got to Shinjuku about 6pm and walked down to Kabukicho to find myself a love hotel. Tried to book a room at Hotel Listro (looked really nice) however the gentlemen at the desk told me sorry Japanese only so I left. First time I'd ever been turned away from a love hotel, but oh well. Walked around a little bit and found a room for 5000y at the Sun Hotel. Not horrible but I've been in much nicer rooms, but for the price (in Shinjuku) it was more than adequate for my needs. The room was kinda laid out strange as you had to walk through the bathroom (which was huge, as big as the main room) to get to the bed.Checked in about 7 pm and called Delicious, no answer. I did try the online reservation through Erolin, but I wouldn't waste your time with the online reservation (but it's a great resource for folks new to Japan) I called back at 7:30pm and a lady picked up. I asked in Japanese if she understood English and she did (as it says on their website) , asked her to send a girl to my Room at the Sun and she said a gal would be by there in 10 minutes. I didn't specify any preference in girl or service, all though on the system portion of their website (their is an English page button) it says that girl selection is included in the price (no additional charge). Interesting side note, the hotel had a sign posted near the door that said "the admittance of foreign girls off the road will not be tolerated". This apparently is an old policy or they quite literally mean "foreign girls off the road" because 20 minutes later a Japanese girl showed up at my door without incident.My lady for the evening was Aki there's two on their site so here she is.[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net/companion/girls/aki/data.html[/url]Aki, while not quite as slender as her pictures was an absolute doll, and tall with her shoes on was just shorter than I am (I'm 5 ft 10) once she took her shoes off she was still at least 5 ft 6. She came in, said our greetings in Japanese. And walked into the bedroom to take care of the business end of things. Aki's English was just fine, not fluent but much like my Japanese she knows enough to get around and get her point across. She has a very cutesie type voice or at least maintained that throughout the service. She handed me a card with the the course prices on it. I chose the 15000 70 minute course (in hind sight the 60 minute course for 13000 would have been more than adequate, but you live you learn). Upon telling her my selection she informed me without any inquiries on my part that sex would be an additional 5000 and asked me if I was interested. I said yes and gave her 20000. As this was my first time using delivery health, the process was a bit awkward getting started. I probably seemed a bit nervous, as did she. She kinda sensed this and broke the ice by suddenly giving me a great big hug followed by several long / deep kisses. After that things were really comfortable, and really began to heat up.Aki was an outstanding provider, textbook GFE. We began undressing each other, kissing and groping all way. She asked me to unsnap her bra while she held up her hair, which I thought was a nice touch, and I began kissing her on the neck and slid off her upper garments to revel a beautiful, natural pair of E cup breasts. Crowned by two nice brown nipples, not huge flat national geographic nipples or long pointy door stop nipples, but really nice proportionate nipples. Also a pretty good booty on her as well, if you are an ass man it probably isn't anything to write home about, but she definitely fills up the back of her pants and I found it to be an attractive feature on her. We then both undressed each other completely (She was wearing a G-string that looked like it came from a sexy maid outfit black with white lace) went to the shower. She produced some mouth wash, which we both used, then we began washing one another. Which again, was very intimate, she was very sensual when she was washing me and also allowed me to be free to let my hands roam and play with her as well (felt very much like sex in the shower with a lover). I spent a lot of time soaping up her breasts / pussy / ass, which she was getting into and reached back to wrap her arms around my neck and grind her soapy ass on my cock (like I said very into everything she did both physically and vocally). While I was having a lot of fun in the shower with her I felt it was time to move on so we rinsed / dryed off and went back to the bedroom.We both dropped our towels and immediately went to kissing as I laid her down on the bed. After some light foreplay, she flipped me over and went to work. I'm a pretty fair skinned fellow even for a white guy, so while she was licking my nipples she got the biggest kick out of how pink they were and we both laughed about it. She worked her way down and then applied some sort of lubricant and then began a very nice BBBJ. Very playful, lots of teasing / eye contact. Lots of attention to the boys and slapping it on her tongue / face / licking all over. That sort of thing. We then started 69'ing. She is very well kept down there. Very well groomed pride patch with her pussy being shaved around her lips (very nice pussy not too tight, but not sloppy). Couldn't help but get into it and she also seemed to be on the other end. After a few minutes she slipped on a condom / lubed and rode me cowgirl for a bit. Pretty good skills in that reguard. Not too long after I flipped her over for a some doggie style. Really great, very enthusiastic / responsive. She was very wet, and pushed back very well, occasionally turning her head to make eye contact. I asked her if I was going to fast / deep and she giggled and said she was into that so to go ahead and "have fun back there". I don't think I've ever laughed so hard with my dick in a woman before. LOL. I then pulled out and began rubbing my cock on her asshole and jokingly asked "So I can have fun back here, huh?". She looked back at me with a very wry / sexy smile and gave me the "DAME!" making an X with her hands. We both laughed and then got back to business. Wasn't long until I was about ready to blow so I asked her if I could cum in her mouth and she sure (that service is listed on their website, but I'm sure all girls have their do / don't list, so though I better ask). So I laid on my back, she took of the condom and began finishing me off. I told her I was cumming in Japanese and she kept it in her mouth and then continued sucking letting it kinda drool out on her hand / my cock. She then got up went to the bathroom to rinse and then met me in the shower to get cleaned up.Afterwards we kinda hung out for about 20 minutes. I was sitting on the couch in my towel having a smoke, she came over in her towel and lit one up and we chatted. After the smoke she straddled me and we kinda played around and chatted some more, she said I should ask for her next time. She let me play with her tits / ass some more and then we both got up got dressed. She called her work and walked me out of the hotel. I was going back to Shinjuku station and she was going the other way so we hugged and parted ways. Over all I really, really enjoyed myself and Aki was exactly the kind of experience I was looking for. At 20000 + 5000 for the hotel it wasn't the cheapest experience to be had out there, but I definitely got what I payed for and I feel it was worth every penny. This establishment was absolutely no hassle, the service was OUTSTANDING, and I kind of like the privacy / intimacy of having a girl in a hotel room as opposed to walking into an establishment and all that goes with that. If you are visiting Tokyo and don't really have the time to go hunting around or are limited by Japanese language ability. Then I'd recommend you try this.My only real dilemma with the whole ordeal is the next time I go back I'm kind of torn between asking for Aki again and wanting to try a new gal. Also want to check out XRAY from shibuya (says the have AF / facial on the menu). But we'll see. In the mean time stay safe / have fun out there and I hope this was helpful.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dlbtmail; 1188558]It's good to hear about your experience at Delicious. I tried to call them up many times at different hours of the day, but it was very hard to get a hold of them.

The one time they did pick up, I asked (in Japanese) for Nikoru (nicole?) , but they said she wasn't available at the moment. I didn't have another name in mind so I described the kind of girl I would like.

After about 40 minutes waiting in the love hotel in Kabukicho, a girl named Miya came to my room. Like in Capt's report she offered FS for an additional 5000. She was okay, not really GFE. Afterwards we chatted and I found out that she was Chinese and that she came from Beijing. I later checked the website and I still can't find this girl's profile. She was cute, but I was a little disappointed that she was Chinese considering other Chinese estutes are cheaper.

As for Xray, I have also tried them and I think I like them better than delicious. I tried Ai, she was a just a little chubbier than her picture but still fit, and she had a really cute face. Same deal as Delicious, I paid an extra 5000 for FS. Extremely nice and cute and GFE. When I called them I mentioned the tokyo nights website and they gave me a 2000 yen discount, so it ended up being 13000 for 60 minutes plus 5000 for FS and the hotel room. A little bit cheaper than Delicious but still expensive, but I would do it again, probably with Ai again.[/QUOTE]The girl was probably Mio rather than Miya. I looked at the site and some of the girls look a lot like the girls I saw when I went to a Chinese esute in Sugamo (the Mio picture especially). They definitely move shop a lot due to the short life spans of Chinese esutes.

[QUOTE=Afterwards we kinda hung out for about 20 minutes. I was sitting on the couch in my towel having a smoke, she came over in her towel and lit one up and we chatted. After the smoke she straddled me and we kinda played around and chatted some more, she said I should ask for her next time. She let me play with her tits / ass some more and then we both got up got dressed. She called her work and walked me out of the hotel. I was going back to Shinjuku station and she was going the other way so we hugged and parted ways. Over all I really, really enjoyed myself and Aki was exactly the kind of experience I was looking for. At 20000 + 5000 for the hotel it wasn't the cheapest experience to be had out there, but I definitely got what I payed for and I feel it was worth every penny. This establishment was absolutely no hassle, the service was OUTSTANDING, and I kind of like the privacy / intimacy of having a girl in a hotel room as opposed to walking into an establishment and all that goes with that. If you are visiting Tokyo and don't really have the time to go hunting around or are limited by Japanese language ability. Then I'd recommend you try this.[/QUOTE]Good post. When you look at it from an economic point, you actually came out ahead. Clubbing can be expensive. You can meet someone, and go through the motions of buying drinks, and may get a number for a date at another time after an expensive dinner, and still not get what you want. You paid the price upfront, and had the rest of the evening to yourself without the added expense of wining and dining. Good job. I hope to get to do the same someday.

Thanks for this info. I've been interested in trying a KDH place. I guess I'll try this one, since the websites all look the same to me.Do you remember the name of the girl you had? Yes, Nana at Saranes was awesome. I wonder if she went back to Korea when Saranes shut down, or if she is working in some other shop somewhere.[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1188249]I was walking around Uguisudani and decided to check out one of the information booths. The booth guy welcomed me and asked me what kind of girl / services I was looking for, and I said "I don't know yet," in Japanese (that's why I went to an info booth!) , then the guy said "what do you mean you don't know? You're not Japanese are you?" then told me to leave. I was a bit shocked by the rudeness but it happens. I went next door to the info booth with a big green sign and this guy was much friendlier. After talking to him a bit and deciding that I wanted a Korean girl with a "kubire" waist he recommended this place.[url]http://www.ml-dh.com/main.php[/url]He first called the store to check availabilities then showed me pictures and video of the available girls. He said the mama san recommended "Best" and said that she's always in high demand but at this moment she was free. I saw the pictures and the tiny video and thought "WOW, sure I'll give her a shot." The info booth guy told me the obvious that the pictures are photo shopped so the girl may not be as beautiful as the pictures, but I definitely liked his honesty.I wandered over to a love hotel, called the number he gave me to alert the store to where the girl should meet me, and she showed up 20 minutes later. All I have to say is holy shit she was beautiful. It was the first time I saw the actual person be far more attractive than the photo shopped photos. They really should've just left her photos alone. She also had one hell of a body, but unfortunately the jubblies were definitely fake. Her service was very standard. Absolutely nothing special and she definitely looked like she was a bit tired from her work. After the second shower we just sat and chatted for a bit. She doesn't speak English and speaks only a little Japanese, so the conversation was a bit awkward if I'm honest.Total damage was 20, 000 for the service and 4830 for the hotel. It wasn't cheap and I'll admit I had better service for much less (I really miss Saranes and Nana who was amazing). Would I go again? Call me a sucker, but if I had excess money lying around yes, because the girl was probably the best looking girl I've ever met. If I didn't have excess money to blow though I think I would try a different girl.[/QUOTE]

There is an option for &25658; &24111; &25774; &24433; Does this mean you can take photos with your cell phone? The first two kanji are "keitai". I don't know what the last two are.At 8,000, it is a bit expensive, though.[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1187987]According to the website, you go to the establishment (there is a map) , and then take the girl to a love hotel nearby.There is a Y3, 000 option to take 2 Polaroids; I don't see anything about keitai pictures, so I don't know.Hope that helps, post a report if you do go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1188741]Thanks for this info. I've been interested in trying a KDH place. I guess I'll try this one, since the websites all look the same to me.

Do you remember the name of the girl you had?

Yes, Nana at Saranes was awesome. I wonder if she went back to Korea when Saranes shut down, or if she is working in some other shop somewhere.[/QUOTE]The girl I had was named "Best" no joke, but written in katakana. She should be listed under rank 1. Let me know how your experience at this place goes.

I saw a girl named "Unso" on a KDH place that looked unmistakably like Nana. I was going to ring up and request her, but by the time I decided to give it a go, she was no longer listed on the website.

[QUOTE=Dagamaard; 1188742]There is an option for &25658; &24111; &25774; &24433;

Does this mean you can take photos with your cell phone? The first two kanji are "keitai". I don't know what the last two are.

At 8, 000, it is a bit expensive, though.[/QUOTE]Yes, it says for 8, 000 yen you can take video with your cell phone.

Post a report.

Last week I went to Yasuragi, a Chinese Esthe in Ueno-Okachimachi. From JR Okachimachi Station I walked south for 3 to 5 minutes on the eastern side of the railway tracks. Yasuragi is on your left (there is another esthe near-by) , look for Yasuragi written in Hiragana. Later I found a website with coupons:[url]http://www.esute-saron.com/system.html[/url]It's definitely gaijin-friendly, but I spoke (broken) Japanese, so I don't know whether you get along with English.At the reception room I booked the 90 min."Yasuragi course" for 12, 000 Yen. The attendant led me to a small cubicle where Emi ([url]http://www.esute-saron.com/images/staff/staff-03.html[/url]) , a Chinese, waited for me. I undressed, put my wallet into a zippered plastic bag and went to the shower. After taking the shower Emi dried me off (no erotic).Back in the massage cubicle, I laid down on the massage table and got a good 45 to 60 min. Acupressure and aroma oil massage on my back. In the end Emi washed the oil off with hot wet towels. Then she had me turn around and asked me if I wanted an extra 1 hour of "erotic" (don't remember her exact words) for 10, 000 Yen or 30 min. For 5, 000 Yen. I agreed upon 5, 000 Yen and had to pay right away.Emi began caressing my nipples using her fingers (not her mouth). And she put oil on my pecker and massaged it. Not bad, but why was she still dressed? She wore a thin blouse, a bra, and shorts. My hand wandered under her blouse and into her bra, but she was a bit reluctant when I tried to open her bra. But after a minute or two I could convince her to take off her blouse, and I could open her bra, too. She made signs not to speak about her being nude, maybe it is against the house rule. I could touch and kiss her breasts, kiss her neck, and touch her legs. She touched my nipples, my balls and my pecker. After about 30 min. She intensified her handjob and made me come.She got dressed again, massaged my feet and hands for maybe 15 min. I took a shower, got dressed and left Yasuragi after exactly 2 hours (90 min. Course plus extra 30 min.).Would I go again? Probably not. It wasn't bad, but I know better options for this price.

last week i wanted to try something new. at [url]http://www.a-side.com/area0200.html[/url] i found this place: [url]http://www.onkyoukou.net/index.html[/url]. from jr nishinippori stn. (yamanote and keihin-tohoku lines) turn right at the main exit and walk straight for about 4 minutes. you will be walking underneath nippori toneri line and keisei line, this esthe is on your right in the very first building after you passed keisei line. there is a hairdresser on ground floor, the esthe is on the second floor (2f).i rang the door bell and kaori, a chinese, let me in. obviously i was the only guest, she the only massage therapist. at first she didn't appear very friendly, but later the ice broke and we had a good talk (in japanese, don't know if she speaks english). i chose the 1-hour combination course of shiatsu, aroma oil, and "tekoki" (hj) for a mere 7, 000 yen (regular price 9, 000 yen, but the homepage offered a campaign: 2, 000 yen off before 7:00 pm).there was only one room, the massage cubicle were separated by curtains. there was no shower before or after the massage. the massage began. as always. with my back, about 20 minutes of good massage technique through a towel, followed by an oil massage (non-erotic). after about 30 minutes kaori cleaned my back with hot towels, had me turn around and performed a quick professional hj. she remained dressed. after the release she massaged my hands, and she (accidentally? don't think so) held my hands in a way that they touched her breasts! finally she allowed me to hug her and kiss her cheek.conclusion: a good shiatsu massage, only a quick hj, but some nice touching, hugging and good talk in the end. would i go again? probably yes.

[QUOTE=Captpaizuri; 1188496]So I decided to give Delicious Delivery Health a try last night and was really impressed with the level of service I received. I'm not a very experienced monger but have lived in Korea for two years and had some fun there and have lived here for about 8 years and have tried various pink salons / esute / massage places. But was looking for something different / new so I thought I'd try delivery for a change. Here goes.[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net[/url][/QUOTE]Great report! Had a similar experience with deli-net: great chick (Yuki with fake tits. Which mamasan recommended) , great service. 5000 for extra.As somebody else here already mentioned, I had trouble reaching them: when I called, nobody picked up, but they did call me back (from a different number) within 10 minutes.The random hotel I picked was pricey too (6500) , should probably be able find something decent around 4000.What I actually wanted to add is that they have the kyampen 13, 000. 70 mins, for shinjuku and shibuya areas. It's listed on their front page and looks like it's always there. Both mamasan on the phone and the girl listed the full price (15k for 70 mins) but when I mentioned the campaign, they agreed.So 18, 000. 70 mins FS with a great looking japanese chick is a great deal I think. Also worth noting that the site says costume play is free.AND the girl said 3P course is OK (I guess depends on the girl, as always) , and there's no surcharge. You just pay the charge for each girl.Bottom line is: life long dream of a threesome with 2 hot japanese schoolgirls (or close) is only 36, 000 away (+4-6k hotel).

Went to the newly opened pink salon Idol Collection in Shinbashi.They have a special campaign- just 3980 yen from 3pm to 6pm. 4980 yen from 6pm to 9pm, and 5980 from 9 to midnight, all for 30 minutes, which is good until the end of August. Then, prices go up 2500 yen for each time slot.This place advertises that gaijin are not permitted, but if you look Japanese and can 'order' you will make it past both the friendly tout and the tencho.After arriving there, and ordering the 3980 yen course, I handed over my cash, and the tencho gave me a receipt with a return time 15 minutes later. Apparently, all booths were occupied. Then, after 15 minutes, I was given a plastic number card, and asked to wait. One of the booths nearest to the entrance is the 'waiting area' for the girls, and Unlike other pink salons, this place is quite bright. It is basically a cluster of cubicals with high walls, and I believe there are a total of 6 booths. The walkway is right down the middle of the booths, so anyone entering and leaving gets a huge eyeful. No sofas here- only a flat cushioned bench seat. Not quite enough room to completely lay down, so anyone taller than, say 5'8" will be dangling legs off to the side.After another wait of about 10 minutes, the girl arrived. Her name was Megu- very pretty face, very large natural breasts, and full figured. I prefer more slender women, but Megu was so pretty that I didn't mind. Maybe about 22 years old, and very GFE style. After just a couple of sentences, she quickly realized I wasn't Japanese, but had no problems with it. We had a friendly chat about travelling and whatnot, and then proceeded to the action.At this shop, she explained that you can take everything off, fool around, and then when the 5 minute warning gets announced by the tencho, she will make sure you pop. Good deal. She was wearing a school uniform top and skirt, and removed her blouse and panties.She was a very enthusiastic kisser- deep kissing was definitely ok (although I wasn't so enthusiastic for that) , but that was no problem because then she tried all kinds of stuff- she kissed and licked my nipples, ears, neck- you name it, always asking for feedback. After playing with me for awhile, she asked me to eat her out a bit, which was fine. She was tidy, no smell, and seemed to enjoy it. Then, we switched positions, and she got started.She started with a handjob, which, honestly was the best handjob I had ever received in my life. Jeezus

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1188598]The girl was probably Mio rather than Miya. I looked at the site and some of the girls look a lot like the girls I saw when I went to a Chinese esute in Sugamo (the Mio picture especially). They definitely move shop a lot due to the short life spans of Chinese esutes.[/QUOTE]I think you're right, this could be her.[url]http://www.delicious-deli.net/companion/girls/mio/data.html[/url]She kinda looks like Miya / Mio (maybe I heard her name wrong) , except in this picture her hair is a little different from what I remember.Because her face is blurred, I can't really be sure unless I call them up again and ask for Mio. But I'd rather not risk having another so-so experience just to be sure.

[QUOTE=Dude1979; 1189099]Great report! Had a similar experience with deli-net: great chick (Yuki with fake tits. Which mamasan recommended) , great service. 5000 for extra.As somebody else here already mentioned, I had trouble reaching them: when I called, nobody picked up, but they did call me back (from a different number) within 10 minutes.The random hotel I picked was pricey too (6500) , should probably be able find something decent around 4000.[b]What I actually wanted to add is that they have the kyampen 13, 000. 70 mins, for shinjuku and shibuya areas. It's listed on their front page and looks like it's always there. Both mamasan on the phone and the girl listed the full price (15k for 70 mins) but when I mentioned the campaign, they agreed. [/b][/QUOTE]Yeah, they have a campaign that if you are in the Shinjuku and Shibuya areas, it's 13000 for 70 mins, but I found out that you can't request a specific girl. I guess they send out whoever is available.

went to idol collection in shinbashi, a new pink salon that just opened 2 weeks ago, and although they have posted a no gaijin policy, if you look japanese and can 'order' in japanese, the friendly tout and tencho can be fooled. *[url]http://idol-col.jp[/url]this place is notable for a few things- they have a special opening campaign that runs to the end of august which gives you 30 minutes for 3980 yen before 6pm, which increases by 1000 yen at 7 and 9 pm. *also, the place is brand new, so everything is clean and in great shape. *finally, the place is unusually bright for a pink salon, which is great for some people. *the room is located in the basement, and is quite small. *there is a collection of about 6 booths arranged like cubicles with tall walls. as you enter, you walk right down the middle, so you can see absolutely everything that your compatriots are doing (or having done to them). *no sofas here- only a padded bench, and if you are taller than 5'8", you will have your legs dangling off the bench when lying back. *after waiting about 10 minutes in my booth, the tencho came by with a cup of tea, sprayed my hands with disinfectant, asked to see my nails, and then gestured to the sign on the wall with 'prohibited behavior'. then, after a minute or two the girl arrived. *she called herself megu, and she was wearing a school uniform. about 22 years old, very large natural 90cm breasts, and a remarkably pretty face. full figured, so definitely larger than your average japanese girl, but not fat. i prefer slender women, but megu was so pretty that i didn't mind. * after chatting for a few seconds, she quickly realized that i wasn't japanese, but didn't mind. *we chatted awhile about travel and whatnot, and her manner was very gfe. after a minute or two, we proceeded to play.she explained that at this shop, it's ok to take off all clothes.not just pants, and that we could mess around for 25 minutes. *when the 5 minutes left announcement comes over the speakers, she would get serious and make sure i pop. *she took off her top and panties, and started with some dk, which i wasn't enthusiastic about, so she enthusiastically shifted to some serious kissing and licking of ears, neck, and nipples- all without me asking, and at every step, she asked for feedback to see if i liked what she was doing. after that went on awhile, she coyly asked for daty which was fine. *she was clean down there, no smell, and very receptive. *after that went on for awhile, we switched positions. *she then started a hj which, quite honestly, was the best i have ever had-*continuing the hj, she reclined back, spread her legs, pulled me within a centimeter of insertion, and spread herself open with her other hand. since this place is relatively bright, it is quite easy to see everything. very erotic-*after that went on for a bit, she started bbbj. *her technique was intense- she changed up techniques very quickly, making it hard to finish quickly, and seemed to have only one speed- turbo. *she then alternated this bbbj with hj at an almost frantic pace, until i finished. everywhere: in her mouth, on her face, on her hands on the bench. *i can see why they want you to take all your clothes off, as they don't seem to mind getting sprayed, and unlike, say janjan, the finish isn't cim. *after a quick disinfect of the bench, hands, mouth, etc, she disappeared for awhile, came back with a business card, and chatted for awhile. all the while, she continued great gfe service. *when time was up, she led me to the door by hand, grave a goodbye kiss, and it was over. *all in all, for only 4000 yen, it is a great deal. *absolutely outstanding gfe service from a surprisingly attractive girl, although not really my type. i did see 3 of the other girls working, and they were all seemingly a cut above average and slender. *if you look like a native and can grunt out a few simple sentences in japanese, maybe you will enjoy this place. *

[QUOTE=K1234K; 1189263]Went to Idol Collection in Shinbashi, a new pink salon that just opened 2 weeks ago, and although they have posted a no gaijin policy, if you look Japanese and can 'order' in Japanese, the friendly tout and tencho can be fooled. *[url]Http://idol-col.jp[/url][/QUOTE]Sorry- the link is [url]http://idol-co.jp/[/url]

[QUOTE=Dlbtmail;1189218]Yeah, they have a campaign that if you are in the Shinjuku and Shibuya areas, it's 13000 for 70 mins, but I found out that you can't request a specific girl. I guess they send out whoever is available.[/QUOTE]I definitely got 13, 000 for 70 mins. The girl I originally requested was not available, and mamasan recommended Yuki. Maybe that's why the nomination fee was waived. And also I went with a buddy (he got 13k too) so that might have been another reason. "group discount".

Hi Guys,I wonder if someone who has some free time guide me in Tokyo since my w* is not treatting me very well lately. Also going alone for me is kind of.

So 18, 000. 70 mins FS with a great looking japanese chick is a great deal I think. Also worth noting that the site says costume play is free.

AND the girl said 3P course is OK (I guess depends on the girl, as always) , and there's no surcharge. You just pay the charge for each girl.

Bottom line is: life long dream of a threesome with 2 hot japanese schoolgirls (or close) is only 36, 000 away (+4-6k hotel).[/QUOTE]Nice work, I hadn't thought to ask about that (3P). But I'm definitely going to look into it now. To answer somebody's question, delivery is possible most places around the Tokyo metropolitan area (23 wards). Or at least that's the industry standard from what I've seen, didn't really ask as I was right there in kubichiko. I'm guessing if it's within city limits you're ok and if not might be a 1000-2000 for some outskirt districts. Yeah there's also a love hotel map on erolin (top right of main page. Button) but my phone was almost dead and I forgot the wall plugin adapter so just kinda had to wing it. If anyone has a bead on a decent love hotel that's cheaper than 5000 within walking distance, I'd be much obliged as I'll no doubt use this service again.

[QUOTE=Captpaizuri;1189596]If anyone has a bead on a decent love hotel that's cheaper than 5000 within walking distance, I'd be much obliged as I'll no doubt use this service again.[/QUOTE]HOTEL WAKO (or WAKO HOTEL) in Kabukicho.

Not one of the newer hotels, but it's clean and cheap. I've shown up on weekdays at 6pm and can get a room for 4 hours for 3500-5000yen depending on the room. During the day, they have free time (up to 7 hours I think) for the same price.

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude; 1189843]HOTEL WAKO (or WAKO HOTEL) in Kabukicho.Not one of the newer hotels, but it's clean and cheap. I've shown up on weekdays at 6pm and can get a room for 4 hours for 3500-5000yen depending on the room. During the day, they have free time (up to 7 hours I think) for the same price.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.Do you know the website or general area / directions for this hotel?

Dude, You got lucky because on the bottom of their HP says "We are not a sex shop"I went to this Chinese shop in Omiya.[url]http://www.a-side.com/kizuna/[/url]And only got a massage from Kasumi. It was a pretty good massage but no extras were on the menu.[QUOTE=Hunter20; 1189043]Last week I went to Yasuragi, a Chinese Esthe in Ueno-Okachimachi. From JR Okachimachi Station I walked south for 3 to 5 minutes on the eastern side of the railway tracks. Yasuragi is on your left (there is another esthe near-by) , look for Yasuragi written in Hiragana. Later I found a website with coupons:[url]http://www.esute-saron.com/system.html[/url]It's definitely gaijin-friendly, but I spoke (broken) Japanese, so I don't know whether you get along with English.At the reception room I booked the 90 min."Yasuragi course" for 12, 000 Yen. The attendant led me to a small cubicle where Emi ([url]http://www.esute-saron.com/images/staff/staff-03.html[/url]) , a Chinese, waited for me. I undressed, put my wallet into a zippered plastic bag and went to the shower. After taking the shower Emi dried me off (no erotic).Back in the massage cubicle, I laid down on the massage table and got a good 45 to 60 min. Acupressure and aroma oil massage on my back. In the end Emi washed the oil off with hot wet towels. Then she had me turn around and asked me if I wanted an extra 1 hour of "erotic" (don't remember her exact words) for 10, 000 Yen or 30 min. For 5, 000 Yen. I agreed upon 5, 000 Yen and had to pay right away.Emi began caressing my nipples using her fingers (not her mouth). And she put oil on my pecker and massaged it. Not bad, but why was she still dressed? She wore a thin blouse, a bra, and shorts. My hand wandered under her blouse and into her bra, but she was a bit reluctant when I tried to open her bra. But after a minute or two I could convince her to take off her blouse, and I could open her bra, too. She made signs not to speak about her being nude, maybe it is against the house rule. I could touch and kiss her breasts, kiss her neck, and touch her legs. She touched my nipples, my balls and my pecker. After about 30 min. She intensified her handjob and made me come.She got dressed again, massaged my feet and hands for maybe 15 min. I took a shower, got dressed and left Yasuragi after exactly 2 hours (90 min. Course plus extra 30 min.).Would I go again? Probably not. It wasn't bad, but I know better options for this price.[/QUOTE]

Did you use the Y6000 course?

[QUOTE=Sunmans; 1189971]Dude, You got lucky because on the bottom of their HP says "We are not a sex shop"

I went to this Chinese shop in Omiya.

[url]http://www.a-side.com/kizuna/[/url]

And only got a massage from Kasumi. It was a pretty good massage but no extras were on the menu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dlbtmail; 1189951]Thanks for the info.Do you know the website or general area / directions for this hotel?[/QUOTE]Route #1:Find the koban (police box) by Okubo Hospital. Walk the slight sloping street beside the hospital. On the second small street, make a right and go to the end. The hotel is front of you on the left side corner across from the batting cages. It says HOTEL WAKO in English.Route #2:Search this site for the Hinomaru club. Go up that same street of the club and the hotel is on the right corner before the batting cages.Here is Google Maps:[url]http://g.co/maps/5hxy[/url]It's #17 on this map.[url]http://www.dd.iij4u.or.jp/~enjoy/hotelmap2.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Homer69;1190041]Did you use the Y6000 course?[/QUOTE]Yeah. Do you think I should have gone with the most expensive course?

It is very common for the under-Y7000 (or thereabouts) course to not include any happy ending.

[QUOTE=Sunmans;1190328]Yeah. Do you think I should have gone with the most expensive course?[/QUOTE]

Interesting thing happened last night. While walking down the "Pacman" road in Shibuya (don't know the actual name, but it's the road that runs past the old Grimpeur spot) I was approached by no less than 3 touts offering their services. That's never happened (to me at least) in that area before. Another sign of troubled economic times? I had to regretfully decline though as I was in my refractory period after having just had a terrific 2 hr session with Chika from AM. That girl loves to fuck. I'm still a bit sore.

[QUOTE=Homer69;1190380]It is very common for the under-Y7000 (or thereabouts) course to not include any happy ending.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information. I will try a more expensive course and report back.

Tonight's pretty much my last night in Japan, want to try delivery health. Never done anything of this sort before. My Japanese is decent enough that making the call shouldn't be a problem, and I'll go with one of the places suggested here (probably Delicious). The main question is, do I get the room first, or wait for the girl to show up?

[QUOTE=Tengu;1190452]Interesting thing happened last night. While walking down the "Pacman" road in Shibuya (don't know the actual name, but it's the road that runs past the old Grimpeur spot) I was approached by no less than 3 touts offering their services. That's never happened (to me at least) in that area before. Another sign of troubled economic times? I had to regretfully decline though as I was in my refractory period after having just had a terrific 2 hr session with Chika from AM. That girl loves to fuck. I'm still a bit sore.[/QUOTE]I guess it must be the economy. I had a similar experience walking in the Hinedecho area of Yokohama. Not the area where the old booths used to be, but down towards the Washington Hotel and the main street. I got asked by several touts if I wanted services for Chinese women. Two hours would cost 20, 000 yen. I did not take them up on it but I should.

Also, there are a few "Japanese Only" bars in Yokosuka that have started opening up to foreigners. Must be the economy.

[QUOTE=Sunmans;1189971]Dude, You got lucky because on the bottom of their HP says "We are not a sex shop"[/QUOTE]The same HP says: "There are no additional charges." But they always ask for extra money. I had been to Yasuragi esthe last year, was asked for additional 5, 000 Yen, bargained it down to 2, 000 Yen, and got a HJ, but no additional time. So I think that at least a HJ is always on the menu.

Jan Jan was fun. It is 35. 732696, 139. 740281. (Copied from previous report, but it is accurate) If you take the Toei Mita line to Sugamo (I15) , take the A1 exit from the station. Exit, turn left and follow the sidewalk to cross the bridge over the rail lines. In front of you will be a traffic circle with taxis. Walk around the traffic circle to the left, which will put you at the Sugamo BJ street. It is just one block off the main road. All of the other touts will avoid your gaze as if you are the Medusa, but the tout from Tan Tan will Bob Barker you to the door. They wanted a steep 4000 yen from the Gaijin. I guess that the price went up, or I looked way too foreign. I guess that I had missed it from previous comments, but there really is no privacy here. It's just a big dark room with bunch of cubicles with a couple of privacy walls and a bench. The Japanese lady that came was sweet, spoke a little English, and tried to tell me about her visit to San Antonio, Texas and the riverwalk. She asked me to take my pants off, then later took her top and panties off. Kissing and playing with her boobs, and fingering her were ok. BBBJCIM, then almost a dozen hot wash cloths. She tried to make small talk afterwards. Super sweet, and WAY better looking than I expected. Kinda pretty, and an excellent body. Loads of fun for just a little money.It has been a few years since I was here last, but WTF is up with the brown colored tea that comprises the majority of the bottled drink selection in the convenience stores? Japanese Green tea is awesome, but the bottled brown stuff is like steeped dirt with burnt ass aftertaste. Sorry if I offend anyone that likes the stuff.

[QUOTE=Mongernerd;1191078]...WTF is up with the brown colored tea that comprises the majority of the bottled drink selection in the convenience stores? Japanese Green tea is awesome, but the bottled brown stuff is like steeped dirt with burnt ass aftertaste....[/QUOTE]That's mugi-cha (barley tea) , the drink of choice in the summer. Most people who have been in Japan for any length of time develop a taste for it.

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin; 1187987]According to the website, you go to the establishment (there is a map) , and then take the girl to a love hotel nearby.There is a Y3, 000 option to take 2 Polaroids; I don't see anything about keitai pictures, so I don't know.Hope that helps, post a report if you do go.[/QUOTE]Went to Moenorinjin yesterday. I'm a white foreigner. The guy in the shop tested my Japanese (which is quite decent) and gave the green light. He showed me 2 girls who are ok with foreigners. I took Momo. Selected a love hotel, went to the place, booked a room and then called back the shop to tell them my room number. A few minutes later Momo arrived. She is young and nice looking. Great tits and a bit of padding that comes with the boobs, but not fat. She seemed quite unexperienced and a bit passive. She told me I was her first Gaijin. She obviously was quite excited as she got quite wet after some fondling and DFK. She blew me and we switched to 69. She was very responsive and came when I fucked her with my finger while sucking her. Afterwards she sucked me and I finished with a nice tit fuck.All in all a nice experience for Yen 19K + 5K for the hotel. So if you like big tits and speak Japanese, this is an option.

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude; 1189843]HOTEL WAKO (or WAKO HOTEL) in Kabukicho.

Not one of the newer hotels, but it's clean and cheap. I've shown up on weekdays at 6pm and can get a room for 4 hours for 3500-5000yen depending on the room. During the day, they have free time (up to 7 hours I think) for the same price.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Every 1000 yen counts now days

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude; 1189843]HOTEL WAKO (or WAKO HOTEL) in Kabukicho.

Not one of the newer hotels, but it's clean and cheap. I've shown up on weekdays at 6pm and can get a room for 4 hours for 3500-5000yen depending on the room. During the day, they have free time (up to 7 hours I think) for the same price.[/QUOTE]I've also found similar prices at AYER'S ROCK (Ikebukuro: North Exit) and HOTEL MANJO (Uguisudani: North Exit).

Both have bigger rooms than the WAKO.

[QUOTE=Mongernerd; 1191078]Jan Jan was fun. It is 35. 732696, 139. 740281. (Copied from previous report, but it is accurate) If you take the Toei Mita line to Sugamo (I15) , take the A1 exit from the station. Exit, turn left and follow the sidewalk to cross the bridge over the rail lines. In front of you will be a traffic circle with taxis. Walk around the traffic circle to the left, which will put you at the Sugamo BJ street. It is just one block off the main road. All of the other touts will avoid your gaze as if you are the Medusa, but the tout from Tan Tan will Bob Barker you to the door. They wanted a steep 4000 yen from the Gaijin. I guess that the price went up, or I looked way too foreign. I guess that I had missed it from previous comments, but there really is no privacy here. It's just a big dark room with bunch of cubicles with a couple of privacy walls and a bench. The Japanese lady that came was sweet, spoke a little English, and tried to tell me about her visit to San Antonio, Texas and the riverwalk. She asked me to take my pants off, then later took her top and panties off. Kissing and playing with her boobs, and fingering her were ok. BBBJCIM, then almost a dozen hot wash cloths. She tried to make small talk afterwards. Super sweet, and WAY better looking than I expected. Kinda pretty, and an excellent body. Loads of fun for just a little money.

It has been a few years since I was here last, but WTF is up with the brown colored tea that comprises the majority of the bottled drink selection in the convenience stores? Japanese Green tea is awesome, but the bottled brown stuff is like steeped dirt with burnt ass aftertaste. Sorry if I offend anyone that likes the stuff.[/QUOTE]I was in Sugamo for work today and decided to try out Jan Jan which I somehow haven't gone to yet. They charged me only 3000 so I'm guessing Mongernerd just looks really foreign. I forgot the name of the girl I had but she was actually quite cute which is contrary to most of the reports about the place. I received the same service and I have to say that for 3000 yen, this place is excellent.

Hi,I just found this pinsaro website and was wondering if someone tried to enter there? Apparently there is no "no-gaijin" policy on the website.[url]http://www.bunnys-s.net/system.html[/url]

Sorry if this has been posted before but I couldn't find it. What are the store hours for Jan Jan? Thanks a bunch!

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1192342]I was in Sugamo for work today and decided to try out Jan Jan which I somehow haven't gone to yet. They charged me only 3000 so I'm guessing Mongernerd just looks really foreign. I forgot the name of the girl I had but she was actually quite cute which is contrary to most of the reports about the place. I received the same service and I have to say that for 3000 yen, this place is excellent.[/QUOTE]As many other stores, JanJan changes it pricing after a certain hour. I can't remember exactly, but I believe before 5 or 6 PM, it's 3000, then it changes to 4000. As far as I can tell, there's no discrimination in the pricing there. Emotion in Gotanda, however, gave me the evening prices even though I was there well before (but 7000 for two shots still is pretty good IMO).

[QUOTE=Zekelk;1192505]As many other stores, JanJan changes it pricing after a certain hour. I can't remember exactly, but I believe before 5 or 6 PM, it's 3000, then it changes to 4000. As far as I can tell, there's no discrimination in the pricing there. Emotion in Gotanda, however, gave me the evening prices even though I was there well before (but 7000 for two shots still is pretty good IMO).[/QUOTE]Sorry, what time does Jan Jan open? I'm thinking of going before work one day.

[QUOTE=BigManJapan;1192686]Sorry, what time does Jan Jan open? I'm thinking of going before work one day.[/QUOTE]Jan Jan opens at 12pm.

Hi guys,I'm new here.How can I find some blonds or ocidentals girls in japan? Please send me a PM

So far, I have been two pink salons, which are gaijin friendly, in Kanagawa prefecture; the only requirement is that you should be able to speak some Japanese. The first one is Hon Atsugi MyBoom[url]http://www.lemon-g.com/myboom/index.php[/url]I first visited this pink salon last year in December. I was just phoning pink salons in the Machida-Sagamihara-Yamato-Ebina-Atsugi area to see if anyone of them take gaijin customers. Out of more than 10 pink salons, only Hon Atsugi MyBoom gave me a green light. I immediately started off to their shop, which is close to Hon Atsugi station on the Odakyu-Odawara line. Since then, I have been visiting this salon regularly. The girls are in their 20's, much younger than the ones I usually meet at Jan Jan. The play time is 35 minutes and the damage for early mongers is Y6, 000. There is lots of GFE, play, talk and laughing, and of course, some great licking and the BBBJ ends with CIM. The second shop that I visited for the first time last week is DOCCI.[url]http://www.docci.info[/url]Close to Minami-Rinkan station on the Odakyu-Enoshima line. My Japanese friends told me that the ladies at this salon are also in their 20's. But the lady that I met was much older just like the ones that I meet at Jan Jan. Surprisingly, her profile doesn't appear on their website. But she did a great work on me. BBBJ also ends with CIM. If some of you know any other gaijin friendly pink salons and other places of adult entertainment in the Machida-Sagamihara-Yamato-Ebina-Atsugi area, please let us know.

Hi I've been posting about ranko.Has anyone have any other experience about it that they want to share? Thanks

Having tried german fkk's a few times; I have had a lifelong passion for genuine japanese girls. Having read the various threads here I have come to the conclusion that the best chance of a FS Experience with an attractive japanese girl for someone who doesn't speak japanese would be yoshiwara soapland even if more expensive? Could someone confirm this. Also I am looking for a walk In place for practicality. I myself am in my mid thirties, meditternean looking, well groomed and dressed. Could someone please give me an accurate rundown of what my chances would be in Yoshiwara given all the above info. Thanks alot.

[QUOTE=Mohab; 1194352]Having tried german fkk's a few times; I have had a lifelong passion for genuine japanese girls. Having read the various threads here I have come to the conclusion that the best chance of a FS

Experience with an attractive japanese girl for someone who doesn't speak japanese would be yoshiwara soapland even if more expensive? Could someone confirm this. Also I am looking for a walk

In place for practicality. I myself am in my mid thirties, meditternean looking, well groomed and dressed. Could someone please give me an accurate rundown of what my chances would be in

Yoshiwara given all the above info. Thanks alot.[/QUOTE]Welcome back! I seem to recall you already asked those questions.

Anyway, currently your chances of FS with a japanese girl in Yoshiwara are good, more than 50% of the soaplands do accept gaijins.

You may also try AM, specialied in prividing Jgirls to foreigners.

RTFF.

[QUOTE=Mohab; 1194352]Could someone please give me an accurate rundown of what my chances would be in

Yoshiwara given all the above info. Thanks alot.[/QUOTE]Welcome back. You can fuck Japanese girls in Yoshiwara, but they are mostly not that young, thin or attractive. Of course, some guys will tell you that they have fucked a super hot, slim young thing in Yoshiwara, but they will neglect to tell you that they also fucked a number of chubby middle age so-sos before they got to her.

Check out the past reports and you will see that most guys who go to Yoshiwara will say,"she was not as cute as her pic." "She was bigger than I was hoping for." "She was not nearly the 22yo posted on the card." and rate the girls they saw around 6 or 7.

Do you really want to fly all the way to Japan to fuck 5-10 6-7s in search of one 8.

[QUOTE=Xslikx; 1195363]Welcome back. You can fuck Japanese girls in Yoshiwara, but they are mostly not that young, thin or attractive. Of course, some guys will tell you that they have fucked a super hot, slim young thing in Yoshiwara, but they will neglect to tell you that they also fucked a number of chubby middle age so-sos before they got to her.

Check out the past reports and you will see that most guys who go to Yoshiwara will say,"she was not as cute as her pic." "She was bigger than I was hoping for." "She was not nearly the 22yo posted on the card." and rate the girls they saw around 6 or 7.

Do you really want to fly all the way to Japan to fuck 5-10 6-7s in search of one 8.[/QUOTE]I think you are a bit pessimistic. If he takes the time to choose, he may still find one nice young chick. The current business environment is hard currently, and the touts are very helpful these days. But I fully agree that flying to Japan for that is. Well bizarre,

I have a stopover in Tokyo for about 10 hours on October 16. I was wondering if there is any place close to the ariport where I can find a lovely Japanese girl. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

My wife was away for over a week recently and given its been a while since I've been left to my vices, bad nasty thoughts creeped into my head. I got into my head that I wanted to get laid with a non pro girl so I started out by opening up an ad in Japan Cupid. I got nowhere so tried posting a fairly blurred photo of myself on it, only to find out that Japan Cupid is pretty strict about what photos you can put up. I am. Well married. So I can't go around posting clear photos of myself on these dating sites so I gave up on Japan Cupid. Next I went to Happy Mail where I was unsuccessful in the past. Look like there are a whole lot more girls on this site now at least in terms of people looking to get laid with benefits (meaning pros). The girls I ended up chasing on this site kept rescheduling. So I ended up not meeting anybody.So what did I do? I went to Stella deai-cafe in Shinjuku. As I entered the elevator to go up to the store a cute little girl goes in with me. We both end up in Stella and I end up picking her for a chat. We quickly decide to go to a nearby coffee shop (damage 5000yen) and then at the coffee shop negotiate the price for the goods. We then proceed to check into a hotel. And I find out when in the room that she doesn't need to shower? Well fine I thought, she claimed she has already showered so I jump in the shower. We start going at it, and a few mins into it I notice that the deeper I get into her, the more it stinks. I don't mean it stinks as in the sex is bad. I mean she really stinks down there. I try to get the deed done as quickly as possible (as I start feeling nauseous) and hit the showers afterward. Amazingly after going at it, she still doesn't take a shower. Bad sign. Almost wish I put on two layers of rubber, home little taro doesn't fall off.So that was the low point of my week. I felt like I was done and didn't want to risk going out to seek more stinky punani out in the wild. So a week later I call a delivery massage place I've called off and on the last few years. Its a generally reliable place in that the girls are generally above average to high in looks, although usually on the old side (27. 35 years old). I like this place because for +10k yen they have the option to convert the massage in the end into a delivery health option (meaning blow job or sumata). I usually order a massage, if the girl is cute I pony up the extra 10k, if not I get an okay massage plus hand job. This time around the girl was pretty hot, so I opted for the extra fun. So I get a massage for about 40 or so mins then the fun starts. She starts giving me a blow job. I'm a bit bored so I tell her to reverse the position so I can get a better look at her goods. I start playing around with her pussy and end up fingering her like crazy. Now the downside with this kind of place is the girls tend to be a bit more conservative, girls that give massage + hand jobs aren't used to giving all out delivery health services. So going by past experience after I start playing around with the twat, these girls escape my fingers and start concentrating on an almost robotic hand job to get me off as quickly as possible. This time however I must've somehow hit the right spot as the girl eventually stopped blowing me and seemed too preoccupied with enjoying the fingering I was giving her. She eventually comes free of my grip and proceeds to take the sumata position. After a bit I notice she's rubbing my dick closer and closer to her pussy so I ask if we can put it in chokotto (a little bit). She's cool with it and jumps right on it. We end up romping like mad. And I forget the misery I faced with the girl from Stella earlier in the week.

[QUOTE=Memguy;1195457]I have a stopover in Tokyo for about 10 hours on October 16. I was wondering if there is any place close to the ariport where I can find a lovely Japanese girl. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you RTFF with a search for NARITA or AIRPORT you will find lots of suggestions, most of them negative.

[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin;1195649]If you RTFF with a search for NARITA or AIRPORT you will find lots of suggestions, most of them negative.[/QUOTE]Agree.

However, for someone who would be familiar with Tokyo, the Narita express etc. It is not impossible to got to either Ueno, or even Yoshiwara, for a soap, or perhaps to sugamo for a BJ. Knowing exactly hoe and where to go, if I had 10 hours, no luggage and a boarding pass, I would try. But for someone, like him, unfamiliar with the transport system, the city, the language, I advise to stay put in an hotel at NRT and wank while watching a (censored) porn movie,

third time's the charm.

first time i booked her (3p with manami back when she still worked for am) , and ai canceled at the last minute. second time i booked her, again last minute cancellation due to arrival of her period. one last try and finally got to meet her.

worth the wait. just as i'd pictured her, kind of an elfin face, cute. tried meeting at studio alta but they were filming some tv show there and we missed each other in the crowd. crowd broke up, and met up. walked to the love hotel in kabukicho ("hotel labio" lol) and talked quite a bit. sweet girl, and her english was better than i was lead to believe.

at the hotel, we showered and got the sweat off from the sweltering humidity outside, and a little shower play, but nothing too intense, just some playful touching.

got on the bed, and just cuddled for a bit, kissing. ai is a great kisser, and i admit kissing is my weakness, so we probably spent too much time doing it.

ai, with me at least, is a little on the demure side and i pretty much lead everything. starting with sucking on her nipples to get her in the mood (her nipples are sensitive to tongue and touch) that led to a long about of daty. noisy little minx.

finally finished up and she returned the favour. nice slow bbbj, just how i like it. not rushed at all like she's trying to break landspeed records on getting me to cum. took her time so i could enjoy it, and occasionally threw in a little hand action that almost put me over the top.

told her all that sucking and slurping was making me hungry again, so got her to sit on my face, leaning into the headboard. once i got her to lean back and jack me off as i was licking her, i reached up and teased those nipples of hers until the combination of my hands and tongue set her off. almost suffocated as she ground her pussy into me.

she rolled off me and started the bbbj again until i rolled her over for some 69. a few minutes of that, then on goes the condom and she rides me cowgirl for quite a while. i ask her her favorite positions and she says cowgirl and mish. we're already doing cg, so i roll her over for mish and i'm able to hold off for another 10 minutes before i finally pop.

i make light of how us "old guys" can't keep up with "you younger girls" and made her laugh. laid there cuddling and stroking each other for a long while. quite a good talker until she wondered what time it was. oops, we laid there talking too long, about 20 minutes left to go. i'm still not 100% up for round 2 yet, so i offer her a massage. by the time i roll her over, and start massaging the naughty bits, the soldier's awake. a quick bbbj while she's laying under me then off to the shower again, and some quick shower play again. damn, her hands can work a cock.

definitely will repeat next time i come through town, although next time i'll set her up with a 3p like i intended to the first time; she's into it and i know who her favourites are now, too (sorry boys, you'll have to ask her yourself)

I've been using Asian Feeling / Relax in Shinjuku (Kabukicho) , and Choraku in Gotanda for quite a long time. Both places offer a good, skillful massage, friendly service and a very nice happy (hand) ending for a reasonable price (around ?10, 000 for 1 hour). However, I haven't managed to find a similar type of place in Shibuya. I have tried a few promising-looking places on Dogenzaka (sorry, forgot the names) , which offered nice, fairly sensual massage, but always wearing that ridiculous paper thong panty, and no happy ending.

So, any of you lads know of an Asian Feeling / Choraku type of massage place in Shibuya? If so, do please tell. And I promise I'll write a thorough report about it!

Manta Ray

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1196290]I've been using Asian Feeling / Relax in Shinjuku (Kabukicho) , and Choraku in Gotanda for quite a long time. Both places offer a good, skillful massage, friendly service and a very nice happy (hand) ending for a reasonable price (around ?10, 000 for 1 hour). However, I haven't managed to find a similar type of place in Shibuya. I have tried a few promising-looking places on Dogenzaka (sorry, forgot the names) , which offered nice, fairly sensual massage, but always wearing that ridiculous paper thong panty, and no happy ending.So, any of you lads know of an Asian Feeling / Choraku type of massage place in Shibuya? If so, do please tell. And I promise I'll write a thorough report about it! Manta Ray[/QUOTE]I've had successes at 3 places in Shibuya out of around 10 visited. I get the feeling that the shops and girls are not allowed to do this so, sorry, I will not post their names here. 2 were on Dogenzaka, but one charged 10k for the massage and 5k for the ending, both of which were crap. It would have been around the same cost to take a girl to a love hotel around the corner, and probably more fun.I've found that the girls are reticent to give happy endings if you are not a regular customer or if they are new to the industry. One girl gave me sexier and sexier massages as time went on, eventually progressing to BBBJ after I'd been a loyal customer for over a year. (it certainly beat those stupid point cards!)

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1196290]I've been using Asian Feeling / Relax in Shinjuku (Kabukicho) , and Choraku in Gotanda for quite a long time. Both places offer a good, skillful massage, friendly service and a very nice happy (hand) ending for a reasonable price (around ?10, 000 for 1 hour). However, I haven't managed to find a similar type of place in Shibuya. I have tried a few promising-looking places on Dogenzaka (sorry, forgot the names) , which offered nice, fairly sensual massage, but always wearing that ridiculous paper thong panty, and no happy ending.So, any of you lads know of an Asian Feeling / Choraku type of massage place in Shibuya? If so, do please tell. And I promise I'll write a thorough report about it! Manta Ray[/QUOTE]In Gotanda, Raku offers Massage + FS for 11, 000 with Korean girls. I've tried Mimi and Mie. Mimi has better looks, but Mie put more a hearty effort with me. I'd rate the girls 5-6 on looks.7-8 on massage techniques. 4-5 for technique, and 6-7 for service. Although a regular will have probably much better service if you can get along with the girl.The girls speak little or very little japanese and no english.[url]http://www.es-raku.com/main.html[/url]. Pictures are "enhanced" but real.

[QUOTE=Herpes; 1196720]In Gotanda, Raku offers Massage + FS for 11, 000 with Korean girls. I've tried Mimi and Mie. Mimi has better looks, but Mie put more a hearty effort with me. I'd rate the girls 5-6 on looks.

7-8 on massage techniques. 4-5 for technique, and 6-7 for service. Although a regular will have probably much better service if you can get along with the girl.

The girls speak little or very little japanese and no english.

[url]http://www.es-raku.com/main.html[/url]

Pictures are "enhanced" but real.[/QUOTE]Thanks, H. I'l give 'them a try and submit a report. Still looking for a good massage with benefits place around Shibuya station, but no luck yet!

Manta Ray

[QUOTE=Sakaki; 1196692]I've had successes at 3 places in Shibuya out of around 10 visited. I get the feeling that the shops and girls are not allowed to do this so, sorry, I will not post their names here. 2 were on Dogenzaka, but one charged 10k for the massage and 5k for the ending, both of which were crap. It would have been around the same cost to take a girl to a love hotel around the corner, and probably more fun.

I've found that the girls are reticent to give happy endings if you are not a regular customer or if they are new to the industry. One girl gave me sexier and sexier massages as time went on, eventually progressing to BBBJ after I'd been a loyal customer for over a year. (it certainly beat those stupid point cards!) [/QUOTE]Thank S. From the few experiences I've had with massage around Shibuya, I would agree with you that it is not commonly practiced in that area, and that loyalty is the benchmark. I had the feeling with a couple of the places I went to that if I had continued going there and requesting the same gal, eventually the end of the massage would have become, er, happier! Unfortunately, at ?10, 000 yen a go and both Gotanda and Shinjuku just a few JR stops away, they seemed the better option! The search continues!

Hi everyone I was reading for a long time and I wanted to write my first report. (sorry for bad english). I read at this forum about rankou and wanted to try. After google search I found here.[url]http://watashini.x.fc2.com/[/url] I called and asked if gaijin ok. They told me if only my size is not huge and I told it is normal size. She called me to a city hotel in Akasaka. I entered the room and paid 17000 for 2 hours. It was just small hotel room with two beds. There were 2 women and a japanese customer. When I went there they were watching TV. It was my first experience so I didn't tell anything and waited. One of the women told me after a few minutes we will start and as she told me after a while we started but it was not like rankou or group sex. There were 2 beds, japanese guy took one and I took one and we had sex 1 to 1. There is no kiss no anal just playing with lower parts and then FS. After we finished we watched tv again and after a while we changed the women and had sex again. So during 2hours I had 2 shots with 2 different women. Women were about their 30s or 40s but good at sex.I would like to go again but with better service I mean real group sex.(I will write my other experiences soon)

i have been a massage parlor in akabane [url]http://aromaclover.com/[/url]all the girls are japanese but it is not a sex parlor. so at the entrance staff asked me to confirm that there is nothing related with sex. i said ok then a girl came her name was kamiya yuki. she was not good looking but she had been in australia and good at english. she started massage and chatting she was happy to have chance to speak english. and as always, i was very kind to the girl (yasashii). during massage she told me that she is very tired and i asked her that i can give her massage. she accepted but told me not to tell anyone. i gave her massage rub her everywhere. she was looking ok with the situation so i kissed her took off her bra and finally took off her pants touched her and she was very very wet. i have never seen a wet p. why like that and i f. cked her there. so in a massage parlor i was able fu. k the therapist and damage was 15000 for 90 minutes. of course this price was for massage. we exchanged the mail address but i am married and my wife was about to come japan so our relationship didn't continue. (sorry for bad english)

this looks like an emergency fuck. i am sure they do not keep condoms in these kinds of establishments. did you use your own condom? [quote=injapan149; 1197037]i have been a massage parlor in akabane.[url]http://aromaclover.com/[/url]all the girls are japanese but it is not a sex parlor. so at the entrance staff asked me to confirm that there is nothing related with sex. i said ok then a girl came her name was kamiya yuki. she was not good looking but she had been in australia and good at english. she started massage and chatting she was happy to have chance to speak english. and as always, i was very kind to the girl (yasashii). during massage she told me that she is very tired and i asked her that i can give her massage. she accepted but told me not to tell anyone. i gave her massage rub her everywhere. she was looking ok with the situation so i kissed her took off her bra and finally took off her pants touched her and she was very very wet. i have never seen a wet p. why like that and i f. cked her there. so in a massage parlor i was able fu. k the therapist and damage was 15000 for 90 minutes. of course this price was for massage. we exchanged the mail address but i am married and my wife was about to come japan so our relationship didn't continue. (sorry for bad english) [/quote]

And not an emergency fuck.[QUOTE=Goodboy967;1197279]This looks like an emergency fuck. I am sure they do not keep condoms in these kinds of establishments. Did you use your own condom?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goodboy967;1197279]This looks like an emergency fuck. I am sure they do not keep condoms in these kinds of establishments. Did you use your own condom?[/QUOTE]Actually I didn't use any condom.

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1196959]Thanks, H. I'l give 'them a try and submit a report. Still looking for a good massage with benefits place around Shibuya station, but no luck yet!

Manta Ray[/QUOTE]I gave Raku in Gotanda a try today. I paid ?12000 for the 65 minute course and asked the tencho if he had a very slim girl. Of course, he said yes, and showed me to the cubicle (actually fairly spacious compared to other Korean / Chinese massage places I've been in) of Mie. As H mentioned, she speaks very little Japanese and no English, so not much verbal communication between us. She was pleasant enough, though I must say, not exactly what I would call 'slim'.

After the shower, she gave me a fairly competent, though definitely un-sensual, massage for around 30 minutes. Then she flipped me over, took off her towel so she was nude, and proceeded to lick my nipples, and stroke me until I was hard. Then she went in for BBBJ. After a few minutes of that, she hopped on and straddled me, and was just about to slip me inside her, when I stopped her and asked for a condom. She looked a bit surprised, but then fished one out. Then, after a few minutes of fumbling around trying to get the thing on me, I was losing it, so stopped her again and kind of mimed that she could just continue with the BBBJ. She did that willingly until I exploded CIM. After a cup of tea and another shower, the hour was up, so I was on my way.

All in all, not a bad experience, but not exactly great either. BTW, although the homepage has pics of quite a few girls, the tencho told me he has only 3 girls working there at any one time. The only other gal I saw there, getting into the shower, looked pretty chubby and definitely not my type.

Manta Ray

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1197752]I gave Raku in Gotanda a try today. I paid ?12000 for the 65 minute course and asked the tencho if he had a very slim girl. Of course, he said yes, and showed me to the cubicle (actually fairly spacious compared to other Korean / Chinese massage places I've been in) of Mie. As H mentioned, she speaks very little Japanese and no English, so not much verbal communication between us. She was pleasant enough, though I must say, not exactly what I would call 'slim'.After the shower, she gave me a fairly competent, though definitely un-sensual, massage for around 30 minutes. Then she flipped me over, took off her towel so she was nude, and proceeded to lick my nipples, and stroke me until I was hard. Then she went in for BBBJ. After a few minutes of that, she hopped on and straddled me, and was just about to slip me inside her, when I stopped her and asked for a condom. She looked a bit surprised, but then fished one out. Then, after a few minutes of fumbling around trying to get the thing on me, I was losing it, so stopped her again and kind of mimed that she could just continue with the BBBJ. She did that willingly until I exploded CIM. After a cup of tea and another shower, the hour was up, so I was on my way.All in all, not a bad experience, but not exactly great either. BTW, although the homepage has pics of quite a few girls, the tencho told me he has only 3 girls working there at any one time. The only other gal I saw there, getting into the shower, looked pretty chubby and definitely not my type.Manta Ray[/QUOTE]Hey Manta, did Mie have short hair like in her picture? I really dig that style.How much Japanese do you need to get into this place? Thanks man!

[QUOTE=BigManJapan; 1197907]Hey Manta, did Mie have short hair like in her picture? I really dig that style.

How much Japanese do you need to get into this place? Thanks man![/QUOTE]Actually her hair is a bit longer now than in the pic-and in my opinion she looks much better in the pic than in person. She is certainly not ugly, but the photo on their website does 'enhance' her looks. As I said, she is not fat by any means, but not at all what I would call slim. Nonetheless, her attitude was pleasant (though we didn't really communicate verbally much) and she did willingly perform a fairly energetic BBBJCIM.

My Japanese is quite conversational, so I don't know about getting in there without any nihongo. However, given that the gals themselves don't speak much Japanese at all, it shouldn't be a problem.

So I figured since I've been reading this site for so long, I'd post my experiences here and the other site I retunly check for info. I'm a married. 24 white male with no japanese experience. As in I speak nothing, so anything I can do, so can you. Just be nice, smile alot, and well don't be a dnozzle. Ill start from the top; My first xp with mongering ever, and in japan was AM, with Rio. I had never ever mongered, nor had I seen this or the other website yet, so I was feeling my way in the dark. Truth be told, this experience was quite negative for me. On a service level, she was so mechanical, it was almost impossible for me to enjoy myself, and then the scaring, whether from child, or other, were well bad. On top of all this was the physcal injuries, litterally a few wounds that had just scabbed or the like. Needless to say, while the job was done, I left early, and thought never to try again. But then I found a site, and read info, and well, I decided to try again. [url]www.Asianmystique.com[/url] #2 Was Kings club soapland in uguisudani. This place is reopened as Y-fantasy now, but my first exp there was also kinda negative, but it was my own fault. He said large chest, and I could see from the picture that she was minorly overwieght, but in the end it was more than I thought. The experience seemed ok tho, I may try again, though this time with others reccomendations, to go with a specific review. Even though my time was negative, I think any monger should try a Soapland. #3 was Minami. 10/10. Read any review on this board for her. I need not say more. [url]www.tokyomeltykiss.com[/url] #4 was Janjan. Awesome cocept. Sometimes its nice to just go and enjoy it. Even better tho has been my experience at. #5 was Hinomaru in shinjuku. I had a true GFE here, and every time I've gone back its been great and fun. The fact that they open at 5am is stellar as well. This is my go to shop, at 1k more, its less out of the way, and I've never had a bad xp. #6 and 7 were both at the same spot. One not mentioned on ISG before, tho it has been mentioned on TAG. Hipness is a place that does Phillipino and Thai girls cheaply here. Now I can't tell the difference very well from Japanese girls and others, unless they talk, but let me say this about hipness. I've never, ever failed to have GFE here, even if I didn't speak the language. Why, the girls are just nice, kind, and friendly. The company has a dude who speaks / writes english so even with no nihongo, your fine. And the prices are low. 7k 40minutes, +hotel. Gurenteed FS for 7k is awesome in my book. You have to order in uguisudani or pay a3k travel charge, but good stuff. Now reviews since this company hasnt been done here before.[url]www.hipness.jp[/url] #6 was Masa. She's advertised as a BBW, but she's not that big. Her old photos made her look a bit smaller, but the new ones make her look just as she is. When I met her at the station she was all smiles and kindness, and I did get her on her first day. Blowjob was covered sadly (I hate covered BJ's) but sex was great, and even though she doesn't speak a like of english, we got along ok and she was fun. Nice firm large breasts, that fit her frame, and a very nice ass. #7 was a threeway. Yes a three way. 120minutes with 2 girls for 2, 600 yen. I shit you not. When I talked with the guy, he said that as long as your not a douche, (I assume youd have to do one booking before to show this) and its two girls one guy, you can do it for the cost of each girl. So for 2 hours, it was 2600. If you just wanted 40 minutes it would be 1, 400. Plus hotel of course. I had risa and sally. I will say that faces here were nto perfect, but sally was well the hottest woman short of minami I have ever been with. Her body is awesome, perfect breasts, knows when to make the right noises without sounding the porn star, also a great massage. Risa who I can't find on the site anymore, was a full of energy, but very kind, spoke some english and was all around a great person.I hope these reviews were helpful. When you / if you email hipness / call, tell them sgtkreoss sent you. Maybe ill get even more lucky next time I come calling.Thanks for your time yall.

[QUOTE=SgtKreoss; 1198918]So I figured since I've been reading this site for so long, I'd post my experiences here and the other site I retunly check for info. I'm a married. 24 white male with no japanese experience. As in I speak nothing, so anything I can do, so can you. Just be nice, smile alot, and well don't be a dnozzle. Ill start from the top; One not mentioned on ISG before, tho it has been mentioned on TAG. Hipness is a place that does Phillipino and Thai girls cheaply here.[url]www.hipness.jp[/url]#6 was Masa. She's advertised as a BBW, but she's not that big. Her old photos made her look a bit smaller, but the new ones make her look just as she is. When I met her at the station she was all smiles and kindness, and I did get her on her first day. Blowjob was covered sadly (I hate covered BJ's) but sex was great, and even though she doesn't speak a like of english, we got along ok and she was fun. Nice firm large breasts, that fit her frame, and a very nice ass. #7 was a threeway. Yes a three way. 120minutes with 2 girls for 2, 600 yen. I shit you not. When I talked with the guy, he said that as long as your not a douche, (I assume youd have to do one booking before to show this) and its two girls one guy, you can do it for the cost of each girl. So for 2 hours, it was 2600. If you just wanted 40 minutes it would be 1, 400. Plus hotel of course.Thanks for your time yall.[/QUOTE]Great reports. Thank you.1. Where did you find Masa? 2. 2,600 and 1, 400 can not be right. Perhaps you meant 26, 000 and 14, 000?3. HIPNESS looks good. Picts all have the same background so they are probably pretty accurate. Nice to have a another DH option that includes FS.

[QUOTE=SgtKreoss;1198918]#7 was a threeway. Yes a three way. 120minutes with 2 girls for 2, 600 yen. I shit you not. When I talked with the guy, he said that as long as your not a douche, (I assume youd have to do one booking before to show this) and its two girls one guy, you can do it for the cost of each girl. So for 2 hours, it was 2600. If you just wanted 40 minutes it would be 1, 400. Plus hotel of course. I had risa and sally. I will say that faces here were nto perfect, but sally was well the hottest woman short of minami I have ever been with. Her body is awesome, perfect breasts, knows when to make the right noises without sounding the porn star, also a great massage. Risa who I can't find on the site anymore, was a full of energy, but very kind, spoke some english and was all around a great person.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report.

However, I presume you mean 26, 000 yen. $10 per girl for 2 hours seems a bit low! But great value even at that price.

[QUOTE=Lion; 1199085]Great reports. Thank you.1. Where did you find Masa? 2. 2,600 and 1, 400 can not be right. Perhaps you meant 26, 000 and 14, 000? 3. HIPNESS looks good. Picts all have the same background so they are probably pretty accurate. Nice to have a another DH option that includes FS.[/QUOTE]1; Masa is : [url]http://www.hipness.jp/schedule.cgi?proc=profile&name=masachan[/url]2; add a zero to both of those, my apologies.3; the pictures are 100% accurate, ill put my name on it. At least for the few I've seen.

[QUOTE=SgtKreoss; 1198918]So I figured since I've been reading this site for so long, I'd post my experiences here and the other site I retunly check for info. I'm a married. 24 white male with no japanese experience. As in I speak nothing, so anything I can do, so can you. Just be nice, smile alot, and well don't be a dnozzle. Ill start from the top;

My first xp with mongering ever, and in japan was AM, with Rio. I had never ever mongered, nor had I seen this or the other website yet, so I was feeling my way in the dark. Truth be told, this experience was quite negative for me. On a service level, she was so mechanical, it was almost impossible for me to enjoy myself, and then the scaring, whether from child, or other, were well bad. On top of all this was the physcal injuries, litterally a few wounds that had just scabbed or the like. Needless to say, while the job was done, I left early, and thought never to try again. But then I found a site, and read info, and well, I decided to try again.

[url]www.Asianmystique.com[/url]

#2 Was Kings club soapland in uguisudani. This place is reopened as Y-fantasy now, but my first exp there was also kinda negative, but it was my own fault. He said large chest, and I could see from the picture that she was minorly overwieght, but in the end it was more than I thought. The experience seemed ok tho, I may try again, though this time with others reccomendations, to go with a specific review. Even though my time was negative, I think any monger should try a Soapland.

#3 was Minami. 10/10. Read any review on this board for her. I need not say more.

[url]www.tokyomeltykiss.com[/url]

#4 was Janjan. Awesome cocept. Sometimes its nice to just go and enjoy it. Even better tho has been my experience at.

#5 was Hinomaru in shinjuku. I had a true GFE here, and every time I've gone back its been great and fun. The fact that they open at 5am is stellar as well. This is my go to shop, at 1k more, its less out of the way, and I've never had a bad xp.

#6 and 7 were both at the same spot. One not mentioned on ISG before, tho it has been mentioned on TAG. Hipness is a place that does Phillipino and Thai girls cheaply here. Now I can't tell the difference very well from Japanese girls and others, unless they talk, but let me say this about hipness. I've never, ever failed to have GFE here, even if I didn't speak the language. Why, the girls are just nice, kind, and friendly. The company has a dude who speaks / writes english so even with no nihongo, your fine. And the prices are low. 7k 40minutes, +hotel. Gurenteed FS for 7k is awesome in my book. You have to order in uguisudani or pay a3k travel charge, but good stuff. Now reviews since this company hasnt been done here before.

[url]www.hipness.jp[/url]

#6 was Masa. She's advertised as a BBW, but she's not that big. Her old photos made her look a bit smaller, but the new ones make her look just as she is. When I met her at the station she was all smiles and kindness, and I did get her on her first day. Blowjob was covered sadly (I hate covered BJ's) but sex was great, and even though she doesn't speak a like of english, we got along ok and she was fun. Nice firm large breasts, that fit her frame, and a very nice ass.

#7 was a threeway. Yes a three way. 120minutes with 2 girls for 2, 600 yen. I shit you not. When I talked with the guy, he said that as long as your not a douche, (I assume youd have to do one booking before to show this) and its two girls one guy, you can do it for the cost of each girl. So for 2 hours, it was 2600. If you just wanted 40 minutes it would be 1, 400. Plus hotel of course. I had risa and sally. I will say that faces here were nto perfect, but sally was well the hottest woman short of minami I have ever been with. Her body is awesome, perfect breasts, knows when to make the right noises without sounding the porn star, also a great massage. Risa who I can't find on the site anymore, was a full of energy, but very kind, spoke some english and was all around a great person.

I hope these reviews were helpful. When you / if you email hipness / call, tell them sgtkreoss sent you. Maybe ill get even more lucky next time I come calling.

Thanks for your time yall.[/QUOTE]I can only add my congrats to those from others. For a first time monger, let alone, in Tokyo, you show that even an "inexperienced" (but clever) non nihongo speaking gaijin can have fun in Tokyo.

In fact, apart form Hipness, I have experienced all the places, and even girl (manami) that you describe, and broadly agree with your comments. Perhaps would I just be more positive about Yoshiwara, it all depends how to choose the girl, and with experience, I think one can get better.

Anyway, thanks and keep us posted of other discoveries!

[QUOTE=SgtKreoss; 1198918]#6 and 7 were both at the same spot. One not mentioned on ISG before, tho it has been mentioned on TAG. Hipness is a place that does Phillipino and Thai girls cheaply here. Now I can't tell the difference very well from Japanese girls and others, unless they talk, but let me say this about hipness. I've never, ever failed to have GFE here, even if I didn't speak the language. Why, the girls are just nice, kind, and friendly. The company has a dude who speaks / writes english so even with no nihongo, your fine. And the prices are low. 7k 40minutes, +hotel. Gurenteed FS for 7k is awesome in my book. You have to order in uguisudani or pay a3k travel charge, but good stuff. Now reviews since this company hasnt been done here before.

[url]www.hipness.jp[/url][/QUOTE]Has anyone tried the sister store that's listed on the hipness website? [url]http://www.venus-airline.jp/p_girl.shtml[/url]

I think they're undergoing renovations or something now though.

A few weeks ago after a long weekend of doing good deeds.

I found myself near Gotanda. I thought I had written on my phone the directions to this place that some had posted a while back.

So I got to the station and starting searching for the notes I made. Nothing. I tried to search this forum on my phone but it was taking to long.

So I decide to wing it again. Walked for about 10 minutes and found nothing. I come to this place: 35. 624067, 139. 722532.

I has a place in the second floor and one on the third floor. I thought the kanji for the sign with the heart on the second floor was Yu. But I'm not sure.

Anyways the place was closed. So headed to the third floor. White rose. I was really tired and need a good massage. So the guy show me the menu.

And I went for the 60 massage. The guy gave me 2K discount because I told him where I was coming from. (Again doing good deeds and what I was wearing left no doubt in anybody's mind). Anyways got a good scrub (which I really needed and then off with the massage with I also really needed. The girl walked on my back and everything.

Then nice HJ finish while I was doing some exploring. Overall not a disappointing deal. Plus what made this better was what the girl gave me at just before I left.

Small gifts go a long way when it comes to most girls. (Pro's or non-pros).

Anyways Can anyone tell me if I was close Yu Yu and google maps coordinates would help a lot.

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[QUOTE=Capa Negra 888; 1200190]A few weeks ago after a long weekend of doing good deeds.

I found myself near Gotanda. I thought I had written on my phone the directions to this place that some had posted a while back.

So I got to the station and starting searching for the notes I made. Nothing. I tried to search this forum on my phone but it was taking to long.

So I decide to wing it again. Walked for about 10 minutes and found nothing. I come to this place: 35. 624067, 139. 722532.

I has a place in the second floor and one on the third floor. I thought the kanji for the sign with the heart on the second floor was Yu. But I'm not sure.

Anyways the place was closed. So headed to the third floor. White rose. I was really tired and need a good massage. So the guy show me the menu.

And I went for the 60 massage. The guy gave me 2K discount because I told him where I was coming from. (Again doing good deeds and what I was wearing left no doubt in anybody's mind). Anyways got a good scrub (which I really needed and then off with the massage with I also really needed. The girl walked on my back and everything.

Then nice HJ finish while I was doing some exploring. Overall not a disappointing deal. Plus what made this better was what the girl gave me at just before I left.

Small gifts go a long way when it comes to most girls. (Pro's or non-pros).

Anyways Can anyone tell me if I was close Yu Yu and google maps coordinates would help a lot.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]158292[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]CN, YUYU is out the west exit of Gotanda, turn left, go to the corner, turn right at the main street, go over the river and it is in one of the buildings on the right about 100 meters or so past the river, upstairs (but I forgot which floor). I don't think there is any sign outside.

Can you tell us which side of Gotanda station you exited, and about how many minutes walk from the station? About the srvice, how much was the 60 min massage, and do you think HJ is the norm there or did your gal just give you a special finish?

Manta Ray

[QUOTE=Manta Ray;1200295]Can you tell us which side of Gotanda station you exited, and about how many minutes walk from the station?[/QUOTE]He posted the coordinates. You can see exactly where the shop is.

[QUOTE=Xslikx;1200350]He posted the coordinates. You can see exactly where the shop is.[/QUOTE]Yeap. If you plug in the GPS coordinates into google maps you will see the place.I 'm not good a following or giving directions to places that is why I try to post GPS coordinates to places I review.Price was supposed to 12K but I got 2K back. HJ seem to be standard.

[QUOTE=Capa Negra 888; 1200408]Yeap. If you plug in the GPS coordinates into google maps you will see the place.

I 'm not good a following or giving directions to places that is why I try to post GPS coordinates to places I review.

Price was supposed to 12K but I got 2K back. HJ seem to be standard.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I found it on the map from your coordinates! It looks like it's near YuYu. I'll give it a try and let you know what happens!

[QUOTE=Little Jared; 1180927]So the other day I was walking around Kanda. This place has TONS of massage parlours (mostly Chinese and thai).I went to this one first:[url]http://www.kanda-hime.com/[/url]Basic course is 3, 000 for 30 min, then you have the hime-courses starting from 7, 000 (60 min) and so on.The reception girl flat out told me that any of the hime ones come with a HJ happy ending, and that I could also get FS for "a little extra" money (wasn't clear on how much extra though) Chinese girls, nice but not stunning, and I wanted to know what other places had to offer so I thanked her and left.Then I went there:[url]http://heartful-garden.com/index_pc.php[/url]Pretty much the same price. Reception girl wasn't as specific about the service but I didn't really ask either, assuming it would be the same.I chose Aki for 60 min. Cute, nice little body (I would say 7/10 but I'm a picky *). Shower, back, front. Nice technique, let me touch and kiss her to a certain extent. Her moaning was probably fake but actually arousing. I came on her face "by accident" (she didn't cover it enough) but she was like "it's okay" with a very sexy smile.Not bad for 7, 000 yen.So on my way back, lost in my thoughts about the human condition, state of society and life in general (among others) , I was thinking. It's always hard to tell in those places if you can or cannot get extra. Since you will always be told "no no no" (well, almost always) at the front and then you may or may not be lucky with your girl. But 2 hits out of 2 tries leaves me to think that Kanda is a good spot.I read you can get a hint by checking the "map" page on the website. If they don't give the full address and just say instead something like "come to this station and then give us a call" then that would be a big sign. Never verified it (and the 2 places I wend had the address).I also noticed that some search websites use the term "nuki-nashi" which I think means "no ejaculation". Does anyone know about that?[/QUOTE]Thanks to this post I found this place.[url]http://tokyo-aroma.net[/url]And on the website is a great YouTube video of how to find it.[url]http://youtu.be/fkedyaaqXAY[/url]I'm a totally newbie at this and not quite ready for the FS stuff as I'm a bit of a chicken. Also I really was looking forward to a good massage and if I got a HJ that would be bonus.At the desk when I asked for a massage the lady was making the "universal" sign for HJ while saying "no sex, no sex." I was kinda disappointed that I was not able to choose a girl but then pleasantly surprised at who I got. I paid the 7000 yen and got Erika and I thought she was very pretty, here's what she looked like.[url]http://tokyo-aroma.net/gals/erika.php[/url]Erika was very friendly and we tried to have some conversation but her English was no very good and my Japanese is non existant. Still with our language barrier it was still fun as she really seemed to enjoy what she was doing.Had to take a self shower, but she did help to dry me off. The massage was pretty good, nice pressure and she worked out a bunch of knots I had. At one point I was like wow this girl is strong, until I realized that she was actually standing on my back and using her feet to massage my lower back and legs. She did my neck, shoulders, arms and hands. The bummer thing the whole time she was doing the massage I was covered with a towel and she would move the towel around while doing the massage. Oh well it was still a good massage.She left for a moment and came back with some oil / lotion but didn't ask me to flip over. Lying there on my stomach she takes off the towel and gently starts stroking my butt and then moves down to do a light ball massage. After a minute or two of that she ask me to flip over. She lies down next to me and starts the HJ. Nice and slow, kinda just playing. I ask if she can take off her top but she says no, I ask if I can touch her and she allows light touching.As she got into it, I kept trying to get my hands under her top but she'd giggle and wiggle away (maybe I didn't pay enough for that) and tool toward the direction of the front desk then say something about someone not liking them to do that. Even though I couldn't get her to take off her top I was able to let my hands roam around. Now since I am a newbie I'm not sure what real GFE is supposed to be like but I can say what I experienced was really similar to what might happen with a girl who wasn't willing to have sex after a first date. While doing the HJ, she would look into my eyes, licked my nipples, gave me light kisses on the lips and blew in my ear. I'm pretty sure that I would have been able to DFK, but I didn't push it. The HJ wasn't rushed and she never made me feel like "hurry up and finish" it seemed that all she wanted to do was make me feel good.After I finished she cleaned me up and I asked if I could go take another shower. She seemed surprised by the request and had to go ask if that was OK. When she came back she jumped on my lap and gave me another kiss and told me we needed to wait. As we waited with her on my lap we tried to make more small talk which was disaster but still fun. Another self shower with her helping me dry off and back to the room to change. Before we left the room (which really isn't a room but a small area with a curtain for a door) I gave her a big hug and another kiss, thanked her and left.If I'm ever in Japan again, I think I'd do this again.Later, Z

Guys,

Anybody know what Deai Kissa is for?

Are girls there ready for sex once you take them out?

If so, how much are you supposed to give them?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Manta Ray;1200413]Thanks, I found it on the map from your coordinates! It looks like it's near YuYu. I'll give it a try and let you know what happens![/QUOTE]I'm glad you found my GPS location helpful. That still doesn't answer my original question.Picture was of outside of white rose on 3rd floor and unknown shop on second floor. With symbol that looks like Yu in Kanji but I'm not sure.Does anyone have GPS location to Yu YU? I would love to try that place out. With all the great reviews I've read.

Well I got home and I was determined to find out about Yu Yu.

But I checked out their website and it's down.

[url]www.g-yuyu.com/main.html.[/url]

Maybe that's why I could not find it.

I did find a navi website that showed the place to be further down.

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Hipness seems fantastic price-wise. However (without wanting to sound like a kill-joy) my one reservation is to do with how the girls got there.Is there anything to suggest that they have been trafficked? Can it be assured that they're in this profession of their own free will? I only ask since Japan is notoriously difficult to obtain a visa for.The idea that a great number of the women in the Japanese adult industry are simply over-materialistic (Japanese) ladies, willing to get naked so they can afford the latest designer handbag is a strong factor in dealing with the morality of paying for such 'services'. It would be quite horrific to arrive somewhere to find that the girl is forced to be there.[QUOTE=SgtKreoss; 1199161]1; Masa is :[url]http://www.hipness.jp/schedule.cgi?proc=profile&name=masachan[/url]2; add a zero to both of those, my apologies.3; the pictures are 100% accurate, ill put my name on it. At least for the few I've seen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sorbonne; 1200691]Guys,

Anybody know what Deai Kissa is for?

Are girls there ready for sex once you take them out?

If so, how much are you supposed to give them?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Deai Kissa is a coffee shop where one meets with girls, presumably to arrange a transaction, which in practice is nearly always paid. You negotiate with them over the price and what will be provided. It's really tough to complete any deal in a deai kissa if you aren't Japanese, and I can't imagine how one does it if one doesn't even speak Japanese. Speaking Japanese should be presumed to be a minimum.

Just tried the the10000yen. Com Shinagawa location today. Generally quite pleased. Got Misato. Nice girl, chubby but wears it well. Nice big titties. If you like skinny, she's not your girl, but she's not outrageously fat by my jaundiced American eye. She still has curves.

Plusses.

* Good service (no vaginal penetration, but just about everything else, and done well. Excellent head.) Attention paid to small details. She folds your clothes after you take them off, for example. She is always polite, and although the timer is ticking, she never makes you feel rushed.

* Enjoyable personality (I know, many don't care about that, but I like a girl that I can have a conversation with after. She has a sense of humor, and can talk reasonably about varied subjects. All conversation done in Japanese. Don't know if she speaks English or not. She stated she was relieved I spoke Japanese)

* Nice body. Not everyone will like her shape, but I sure did. Nice to have a Japanese girl who doesn't look like a 14 year old boy with a vagina. If you only like skinny girls, order someone else. Having a nice big pair of jugs and some soft round hips was just what I needed.

* Ordering process is extremely easy. You can order online, although you'll need a Japanese cell phone number for them to call and confirm. Good reason to get a rental phone if you aren't a Japanese resident.

* Had no problem coming to my regular hotel room. First time I have done that, and was nervous about it, but other than showing up 15 minutes late, there weren't any other problems with that.

Minuses.

* Showed up 15 minutes late. Not a huge problem, and she didn't shortchange me on time. In fairness, I ordered with very little advance warning (I. E. Who do you have that I could see now?) , but still if they promise she'll be there at a particular time, I'd like to see her at that time.

* Did not have change. Wound up paying her an extra 2000 yen because neither of us could make exact change. She was worth the additional cost, but it's a principal thing.

Things that might be unpleasant surprises if you don't read the fine print.

* in spite of the name, you can't really order for 10000 yen. The cheapest rates start out at 12, 000, plus a "transportation fee" which they include for about 2000 yen if you are in the main service area. Higher outside as you would expect.

* the say no penetration on the website, and they seem to mean it. Oral was very nice, and we did "sumata" which is where she applies lotion to the appropriate areas of you and herself and basically uses the outside of her vagina and her hands to get you off. Felt nice, but as she pointed out, if it doesn't do it for you quickly, you become desensitized after a few minutes. Not sure if one can become desensitized to oral sex. Would sure love to try to find out.

Damage. 20, 000 yen for 40 minutes "playtime" plus additional 15-20 minutes after, due to inability to make change. Should have been 18, 000, but not really upset about paying extra. Some folks might be, though.

Satisfied. Yes.

Would I repeat. Yes.

Same girl. I'd be happy to, but I wouldn't mind trying someone else too. Think next time I use them, I might try someone else just to see, but Misato set the bar fairly high. Pleasant, cheerful girl with a great attitude and fun to be with, both sexually and non-sexually. Would be great if they were all that way!

[QUOTE=ZeeMo; 1200585]Thanks to this post I found this place.[url]http://tokyo-aroma.net[/url]And on the website is a great YouTube video of how to find it.[url]http://youtu.be/fkedyaaqXAY[/url]I'm a totally newbie at this and not quite ready for the FS stuff as I'm a bit of a chicken. Also I really was looking forward to a good massage and if I got a HJ that would be bonus.At the desk when I asked for a massage the lady was making the "universal" sign for HJ while saying "no sex, no sex." I was kinda disappointed that I was not able to choose a girl but then pleasantly surprised at who I got. I paid the 7000 yen and got Erika and I thought she was very pretty, here's what she looked like.[url]http://tokyo-aroma.net/gals/erika.php[/url]Erika was very friendly and we tried to have some conversation but her English was no very good and my Japanese is non existant. Still with our language barrier it was still fun as she really seemed to enjoy what she was doing.Had to take a self shower, but she did help to dry me off. The massage was pretty good, nice pressure and she worked out a bunch of knots I had. At one point I was like wow this girl is strong, until I realized that she was actually standing on my back and using her feet to massage my lower back and legs. She did my neck, shoulders, arms and hands. The bummer thing the whole time she was doing the massage I was covered with a towel and she would move the towel around while doing the massage. Oh well it was still a good massage.She left for a moment and came back with some oil / lotion but didn't ask me to flip over. Lying there on my stomach she takes off the towel and gently starts stroking my butt and then moves down to do a light ball massage. After a minute or two of that she ask me to flip over. She lies down next to me and starts the HJ. Nice and slow, kinda just playing. I ask if she can take off her top but she says no, I ask if I can touch her and she allows light touching.As she got into it, I kept trying to get my hands under her top but she'd giggle and wiggle away (maybe I didn't pay enough for that) and tool toward the direction of the front desk then say something about someone not liking them to do that. Even though I couldn't get her to take off her top I was able to let my hands roam around. Now since I am a newbie I'm not sure what real GFE is supposed to be like but I can say what I experienced was really similar to what might happen with a girl who wasn't willing to have sex after a first date. While doing the HJ, she would look into my eyes, licked my nipples, gave me light kisses on the lips and blew in my ear. I'm pretty sure that I would have been able to DFK, but I didn't push it. The HJ wasn't rushed and she never made me feel like "hurry up and finish" it seemed that all she wanted to do was make me feel good.After I finished she cleaned me up and I asked if I could go take another shower. She seemed surprised by the request and had to go ask if that was OK. When she came back she jumped on my lap and gave me another kiss and told me we needed to wait. As we waited with her on my lap we tried to make more small talk which was disaster but still fun. Another self shower with her helping me dry off and back to the room to change. Before we left the room (which really isn't a room but a small area with a curtain for a door) I gave her a big hug and another kiss, thanked her and left.If I'm ever in Japan again, I think I'd do this again.Later, Z[/QUOTE]Very nice report thank you! They accept gaijin with no japanese at all then?

[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko; 1201051]Just tried the the10000yen. Com Shinagawa location today.* Did not have change. Wound up paying her an extra 2000 yen because neither of us could make exact change. She was worth the additional cost, but it's a principal thing.Things that might be unpleasant surprises if you don't read the fine print.* in spite of the name, you can't really order for 10000 yen. The cheapest rates start out at 12, 000, plus a "transportation fee" which they include for about 2000 yen if you are in the main service area. Higher outside as you would expect.Damage. 20, 000 yen for 40 minutes "playtime" plus additional 15-20 minutes after, due to inability to make change. Should have been 18, 000, but not really upset about paying extra. Some folks might be, though.Satisfied. Yes.Would I repeat. Yes.Same girl. I'd be happy to, but I wouldn't mind trying someone else too. Think next time I use them, I might try someone else just to see, but Misato set the bar fairly high. Pleasant, cheerful girl with a great attitude and fun to be with, both sexually and non-sexually. Would be great if they were all that way![/QUOTE]Since you were satisfied I would say well done, even if it was pricey for the time given.I have avoided them since the English Roppongi site shows much higher prices than the Japanese site. I take it you ordered via the Japanese site? Wonder why there was no 10, 000/60min as advertised. Even with transport it would be 12, 000 unless you are choosing the girl.That "no change" thing is BS. Girls can get chance from their drivers if necessary. Still, always good to have a bunch of 1, 000 when a DH shows up. They might offer FS for a bit extra.ENGLISH SITE [url]http://the10000yen.com/roppongi/frn/topmenu.html[/url]30min. : 12, 000yen (Hotel only) 40min. : 16, 000yen.50min. : 20, 000yen.60min. : 24. 000yen.Extension fee: 4, 000yen (every 10min.) Naming fee: 4, 000yen.Minato-ku: 2, 000yen.Other areas: from 4, 000yen.We accept only above fee.Travel expenses: subjected by area.Japanese Site: Basically 60/10,000 and uphttp://the10000yen.com/shinagawa/topmenu.html(I tried to list all the info but the Kanji is getting screwed up by the site).

Shinagawa site is English.

[QUOTE=Lion; 1201225]Since you were satisfied I would say well done, even if it was pricey for the time given.

I have avoided them since the English Roppongi site shows much higher prices than the Japanese site. I take it you ordered via the Japanese site?

Wonder why there was no 10, 000/60min as advertised. Even with transport it would be 12, 000 unless you are choosing the girl.

That "no change" thing is BS. Girls can get chance from their drivers if necessary. Still, always good to have a bunch of 1, 000 when a DH shows up. They might offer FS for a bit extra.

ENGLISH SITE.

[url]http://the10000yen.com/roppongi/frn/topmenu.html[/url]

30min. : 12, 000yen (Hotel only)

40min. : 16, 000yen.

50min. : 20, 000yen.

60min. : 24. 000yen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko;1201044]Deai Kissa is a coffee shop where one meets with girls, presumably to arrange a transaction, which in practice is nearly always paid. You negotiate with them over the price and what will be provided. It's really tough to complete any deal in a deai kissa if you aren't Japanese, and I can't imagine how one does it if one doesn't even speak Japanese. Speaking Japanese should be presumed to be a minimum.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Gaijin-san.

What I'd like to know specifically is that when I go in and talk to girls, do they expect me to talk about P4P? Are they working girls? Can they be normal girls, to whom it would be rude to start talking about P4P? I mean, it's the same situation I'm worried about when I go to bars and discos in some countries where some of them are working girls and others are normal girls, to whom it would be rude to start talking about P4P.

[QUOTE=Gotanda; 1201027]Hipness seems fantastic price-wise. However (without wanting to sound like a kill-joy) my one reservation is to do with how the girls got there.

Is there anything to suggest that they have been trafficked?

Can it be assured that they're in this profession of their own free will?

I only ask since Japan is notoriously difficult to obtain a visa for.[/QUOTE]I don't have an answer for you but I do have the same concerns. Of the couple of Thai girls I know they are legit, well sort of. For Thais and Filipinas, just the airfare is a huge amount of money and well beyond the means of a typical young woman from those countries.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne; 1201356]Thanks, Gaijin-san.What I'd like to know specifically is that when I go in and talk to girls, do they expect me to talk about P4P? Are they working girls? Can they be normal girls, to whom it would be rude to start talking about P4P? I mean, it's the same situation I'm worried about when I go to bars and discos in some countries where some of them are working girls and others are normal girls, to whom it would be rude to start talking about P4P.[/QUOTE]I've done this about 5 times so can speak from that limited experience. It depends on what you consider "normal". Some of the girls you encounter will be runaways, some will be lowly paid girls in other industries looking for extra money, and most will be girls already holding some jobs in whatever red light area you are in or are close to. But in the end the thing to remember is these girls are there for one reason at a minimum, to go out on a date for a fee. So asking for P4P won't be offensive (and if you offend one or two girls who cares) , but the thing to remember is these establishments in writing at least prohibit this type of dealing in their stores (so some discretion is advised). I had one bad experience where the girl was actually not interested in the trip to the hotel. Having wasted an hour in a karaoke room on a "date" I've made it a point in the future to never leave the cafe without knowing for certain that the girl was in it at least for the hotel trip, although I wouldn't actually discuss the actual compensation details in the cafe.

[QUOTE=Lion; 1201225]Since you were satisfied I would say well done, even if it was pricey for the time given.

I have avoided them since the English Roppongi site shows much higher prices than the Japanese site. I take it you ordered via the Japanese site?

Wonder why there was no 10, 000/60min as advertised. Even with transport it would be 12, 000 unless you are choosing the girl.

That "no change" thing is BS. Girls can get chance from their drivers if necessary. Still, always good to have a bunch of 1, 000 when a DH shows up. They might offer FS for a bit extra.[/QUOTE]As someone already seems to have noted, I ordered from the English Shinagawa franchisee. Figured that would pretty much guarantee they would take me as an obvious gaijin. Wanted the girl to be delivered quickly and with a minimum amount of drama. I don't live in Japan anymore, and when I do travel my schedule is really full, so being able to "seize the moment" means I'm willing to pay a bit more for convenience. I was in a regular hotel, and she had already come past the front desk once. Didn't want her to have to do it two more times just for 2000 yen. They do charge foreigners extra, but foreigners get special service (English language ordering and confirmation, plus not all girls will accept foreigners) , so I didn't mind paying a premium. Next time I will have exact change, and I might try to negotiate a lower price with the reservation lady to equal out some of that differential. I certainly could have been a penny-pincher, but I wanted to relax, and she was a sweetie who did a good job, so I didn't mind. Had it been lousy service, I might have complained.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne; 1201356]Thanks, Gaijin-san.

What I'd like to know specifically is that when I go in and talk to girls, do they expect me to talk about P4P? Are they working girls? Can they be normal girls, to whom it would be rude to start talking about P4P? I mean, it's the same situation I'm worried about when I go to bars and discos in some countries where some of them are working girls and others are normal girls, to whom it would be rude to start talking about P4P.[/QUOTE]I would suggest starting out talking like it's a regular girl and you are trying to ask her out on a date. Let her raise the price issue. First rule of successful negotiation is to always let the other party name their price first. You never know, she might start out lower than you were expecting, then you've won. If she starts out super high, then you might want to reconsider or escalate the negotiation. Second rule of negotiation is always be prepared to walk away. When you start walking out, she might suddenly adjust her prices drastically downward. Some people's preferred negotiation style is "tough as nails." I prefer to keep it pleasant, especially since my objective is to have her working on the most intimate part of my anatomy. If you give her a figurative "beat down" on price, if you can complete a negotiation, the sex is likely to be cold and impersonal. If you are friendly and polite, you might just get free extras or improved quality of service. The highly-desired GFE. I guess it all comes down to personality. Some people are inherent assholes. They don't know how to be anything else. I prefer to keep it positive, even if it means that sometimes I don't get what I want.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Otoko;1201532]I would suggest starting out talking like it's a regular girl and you are trying to ask her out on a date. Let her raise the price issue. First rule of successful negotiation is to always let the other party name their price first. You never know, she might start out lower than you were expecting, then you've won. If she starts out super high, then you might want to reconsider or escalate the negotiation. Second rule of negotiation is always be prepared to walk away. When you start walking out, she might suddenly adjust her prices drastically downward. Some people's preferred negotiation style is "tough as nails." I prefer to keep it pleasant, especially since my objective is to have her working on the most intimate part of my anatomy. If you give her a figurative "beat down" on price, if you can complete a negotiation, the sex is likely to be cold and impersonal. If you are friendly and polite, you might just get free extras or improved quality of service. The highly-desired GFE. I guess it all comes down to personality. Some people are inherent assholes. They don't know how to be anything else. I prefer to keep it positive, even if it means that sometimes I don't get what I want.[/QUOTE]Gaijin-san, I seriously appreciate your reply."I would suggest starting out talking like it's a regular girl and you are trying to ask her out on a date. Let her raise the price issue."So what you're saying is that they can be normal girls sometimes? What's the odds of encountering normal girls, you think? I do feel that most of the girls who come to Deai Kissa are expecting money for sex, no?

[QUOTE=Japanguy;1201451]I don't have an answer for you but I do have the same concerns. Of the couple of Thai girls I know they are legit, well sort of. For Thais and Filipinas, just the airfare is a huge amount of money and well beyond the means of a typical young woman from those countries.[/QUOTE]Judging by the conversation I had with the woman I met through Hipness, I wouldn't be at all surprised if trafficking didn't play a part in the history of at least some of their girls.

[QUOTE=Backtobasics;1201549]Judging by the conversation I had with the woman I met through Hipness, I wouldn't be at all surprised if trafficking didn't play a part in the history of at least some of their girls.[/QUOTE]Another thing from some of the Thai / fillipina girls is that they met Japanese husbands online etc, came over to marry them and encountered abuse and neglect. They've separated but don't want to leave Japan so this is one of the only lines of work they can find with a decent income.

[QUOTE=Desrochers; 1201171]Very nice report thank you! They accept gaijin with no japanese at all then?[/QUOTE]I don't know any Japanese and my ethnic mix makes me look a bit Hispanic. I had no problems getting service at.[url]http://tokyo-aroma.net[/url]Enjoy, Z

[quote=sorbonne; 1201548]gaijin-san,

i seriously appreciate your reply.

"i would suggest starting out talking like it's a regular girl and you are trying to ask her out on a date. let her raise the price issue."

so what you're saying is that they can be normal girls sometimes? what's the odds of encountering normal girls, you think? i do feel that most of the girls who come to deai kissa are expecting money for sex, no?[/quote]i'm quickly getting out of the depth of my experience, so what i am saying is more speculation supported by anecdotal evidence and popular rumor. most girls who work at deai kissa are free-lancers. some have had previous sex industry experience, some have not. stay away from the really young looking ones, as they very well might be ****. deai kissa allow girls / women to enter and leave the p4p industry of their own volition and with no commitment / traceable history. because the girls are largely working for themselves, prices can be wildly divergent, and since many are amateurs, the quality can also vary a lot. deai kissa are where the so-called "compensated dating" or "enjo kosai" in japanese occurs. as a foreigner, you may not get any interest from the girls. conversely you might get a lot of interest. when you use a service or go to a shop, if the business owners allow you in, the transaction is pretty much guaranteed and straightforward. with enjo kosai there is a lot more variability. you might luck out and get a college girl or a hot housewife who is trying to raise some money for something and has a serious freak on. you could also end up with a plain middle-aged woman who is as exciting as a damp dishrag.or worse- changes her mind about the "slap and tickle" after taking your money. the main appeal for japanese is the variability and the amateur status of many of the girls. it's closer to hooking up at a bar than an escort or sex shop worker. whose performance can often be a bit mechanical.

I decided to go out with bang. Several actually. After 7 happy years of mongering in Japan, unfortunately my time in this great country is coming to an end. One of the aspects of pursuing this hobby in Japan, that I've found appealing, is that the ethnically Japanese women who get into the p4p industry mostly seem to do so out of their own accord. They may have alot of their own reasons for doing it, but mostly it seems that one of them isn't active coercion by a pimp or trafficker. I might be a bit naive on this point, but it generally has seemed that the women who do it here, do it of their own free will. And I've always found that very appealing. However, having said all that sometimes the little head speaks louder than the one on top. And when I read the report on here about a cheap three way available at Hipness, I had to give it a go.As reported here before, the management at Hipness is very friendly and fluent in English. After inquiring online, I was contacted by phone to confirm the details. I travelled to Ugusuidani to avoid the delivery fee, checked into a love hotel and called Hipness with the room number. The staff answering the phone though is not fluent in English and a little basic Japanese is needed at this point. At the suggestion of the English speaking fellow from the day before I chose Risa and Masa, both Thai girls. The total cost for both girls for 2 hrs was 38, 000 yen which in my opinion is CRAZY cheap. One nice thing about the service, you can either go up or down on the time (and fee) once the girl arrives at your room. I kind of wished I had booked for more time with these 2, but I had to meet friends afterwards and didn't have the time.It was my first 3p so I wasn't sure what to expect but these girls did not disappoint. Masa, at 38, is not a beauty, but she's got a great rack, a nice big juicy ass and a wide friendly smile with big fat lips for wrapping around cock. And we definitely got off to a good start when she started grabbing my dick on the elevator ride up to the room. Risa. 24, is just flat out hot IMHO, with a cute face, flat belly, perfectly shaped tits, long legs, perfect skin. We got to the room and dispensed with the business end of things, phone calls, cash, etc. I had gotten 3 bottles of water for everyone just as a small gesture and it was appreciated. Like I said, it was my first 3 way so I wasn't really sure what the protocol was. I learned later that it was only Risa's 2nd and it was the first time for Masa and Risa to work together. Once we all got into the shower though everything started happening. Soaping each other up, playing with parts, making tit and belly and ass sandwiches, Masa sucking my dick as Risa was soaping up my back and playing with my ass crack.We moved to the bedroom where I went down on Masa while Risa was working was balls and shaft from behind. We eventually ended round one with Masa riding my face and Risa riding me cowgirl to a screaming finish. The thing that really impressed me about all of it was the constant involvement of both girls. Hands and mouths everywhere, always touching always getting involved, no laying back just watching bored. We ended and then headed back to the shower to get cleaned up and for more fun. Masa titty fucking me, all soaped up, was a highlight. I started riding my dick between her thighs and over her pussy lips when she dragged me back to the bedroom to get the condom on. I did her mish

Oops, hit the upload button by mistake.Anyhow, I fucked Masa missionary, doggie, with Risa rubbing my balls from behind and again playing with my ass. When Masa switched to cowgirl, Risa climbed on my face, rubbing her pussy and spreading the lips apart so I could get a good look. Since it was round 2 for me I knew it would take a while so we switched condoms and I started fucking Risa. She's a real screamer and fucks back just as hard. I took a little break and the girls started playing with each other, kissing tits and fingering each other. Then it was back to fucking Masa some more. The condom wasn't doing it for me anymore so I layed back and started jerking myself off with Risa laying back at the foot of the bed fingering herself and Masa standing over my head furiously rubbing herself, flecks of juice hitting me in the face. Boom, I'm done. And all three of us are a sweaty mess.We head back to the shower and soap each other up again, this time using shampoo as well since we all got so messy. I was sitting on the edge of the tub waiting for the spray hose when, while the conditioner is setting in her hair, Masa starts sucking my dick again, really going for it, sliding a finger up my ass. No way was I coming again but I just couldn't bring myself to stop her as it felt so fucking good. She only stopped when Risa came back into the bathroom saying the front desk had called with the 10 minute warning. We stopped, dried off and started getting dressed.As we did I started to get the story from the girls, or at least from Risa, who uses a mix of English and Japanese. She talked about how she'd only been in Tokyo 2 months, but Japan already for 2 yrs, having worked prior in the Nagano area. She was looking forward to going back to Thailand in December to visit her family but then was coming back to Japan because she still had time on her visa. Masa has been in Japan for 3 yrs but I got the feeling she maybe got here through marriage, mostly because of her age. At 38 she's a bit old for the trade, but damn, she's got some enthusiasm. I'm still not entirely sure what their legal status is here, but wow, did I have a good time. I like to flatter myself and believe they did as well. Even on the elevator ride back down, we were all still making out and Masa gave my dick another good squeeze through my pants. When we hit the street, we gave each other pecks goodbye and as it had turned to early evening and had cooled down, and I swear I'm not making this up, Risa raised her arms in the air and said "I love Japan!". Seriously, so. It was a really nice way to end my mongering days here.

[QUOTE=Homer69;1201272]Shinagawa site is English.[/QUOTE]The 10, 000 has about a dozen sites / branches.

[url]http://www.the10000yen.com/index.html[/url]

Shinagawa and Roppongi each have two sites one J and one E.

I'm currently staying in the yokohama area and would like to experience a soapland today if possible. I'm limited with no GPS on getting around, any assistance would be appreciated.From my reading the forums that their is a Kings Club and a why-Fantasy, and they seem to be getting used as the same place? [url]http://www.y-fantasy.com/top.php[/url][url]http://www.kings-club.net/top.php[/url]Either one, I can't tell how to find them exactly. Anybody have the coordinates I can plug into maps. Google. Com and figure it out from there.Also if there is another place that is closer to my current location, I'd appreciate the info as well.Thanks in Advance

[QUOTE=Manmeat; 1202096]I'm currently staying in the yokohama area and would like to experience a soapland today if possible. I'm limited with no GPS on getting around, any assistance would be appreciated.From my reading the forums that their is a Kings Club and a why-Fantasy, and they seem to be getting used as the same place? [url]http://www.y-fantasy.com/top.php[/url][url]http://www.kings-club.net/top.php[/url]Either one, I can't tell how to find them exactly. Anybody have the coordinates I can plug into maps. Google. Com and figure it out from there.Also if there is another place that is closer to my current location, I'd appreciate the info as well.Thanks in Advance[/QUOTE]I haven't been but I believe these are gaijin friendly. Please let me how how it is if you go! [url]http://www.yokohama-mermaid.com/access.html[/url][url]http://hamahel.com/top[/url] (fashion health) [url]http://www.y-hanabi.com/profile.php?id=108[/url]

Checked out X-Ray a couple weeks back (sorry have been really busy or I'd have posted sooner). With much different results than I had at delicious. Pretty much the polar opposite of the great experience I had at delicious. Gal was late (like an hour) which kind of put me in a bind I basically had to run back to the station afterwards, obviously was not the girl I had asked for (not even close. They must farm out work when they are busy cause she's not on their website) , tried to up sell me on the price of sex option (10, 000. Same price on their website for AF so I'm pretty sure that's not legit) which I did not opt for. Not GFE at all very mechanical, go through the motions type of thing. She looked like the typical Shibuya orange hair, knobby kneed, siting around outside of a combini bar fly. The only good thing is she let me shoot on her face, which I really enjoyed cause this gal was kinda bitchy from the get go. X-Ray is a pass for me from now on. I really should have sent her away at the door, however I was pressed for time and really wanted to see a little action that night so to my dismay I let her in. Oh well, you learn more from the bad experiences in the life than the good ones.

Wanting to put that experience far far from my memory as possible I decided to try hipness last week.

[url]www.hipness.jp[/url]

Got to Uguisudani about 1230 pm and gave them a call, the japanese cat that answered the phone told me to hang on and someone would call me back in a couple minutes. A few minutes later an English speaking gentlemen called, really helpful with directions and love hotel recommendations. It was pretty busy that day so he said I'd have to wait until 230pm to meet up with the girl, no problem so I booked Lisa a 24 year old Thai gal and walked around for a bit before checking into the Ivy hotel. Word to the wise the Ivy hotel is the girl's least favorite hotel in the area (it's really nothing special at all, but was 3700 for 3 hours so cheap at least) Lisa said they all basically sigh when ever the get a customer in that hotel. I can see why, amenities aren't really that great, it's a small cramped room, and the AC barely works.

[url]http://www.hipness.jp/schedule.cgi?proc=profile&name=risa[/url] (she and the guy both said her name was Lisa and I'm pretty sure from the pictures this was her. The website says Risa. Engrish I'm guessing)

Lisa arrived shortly after I check in at 1430 and I received a text from the English speaking guy, checking to see she was there and all was good. Lisa is a very attractive gal. Slender with large C breasts, not much of an ass but wasn't so bad it detracted from her performance. We took care of business (I opted for 80 minutes at 13000) and jumped in the shower. She was very thorough in washing, lots of attention to Willy and the boys. Also some BBBJ in the shower as well. After that back to the bedroom for some more BBBJ / 69 and then she began to ride cowboy for a bit (skills were ok). From the look of things she was pretty tired so I switched to mish for a while and then to doggy. She started to dry up about 30 minutes into it so we switched to her giving me and incredible BBBJ which finished with CIM (she told me that was ok but no shooting inside her.) Very good oral skills, cupping / attention to the boys, slurping, eye contact, took it pretty deep. It didn't take long for her to get me off at all. After that we relaxed and then she gave me a massage with some toned down ICYHOT type of lotion (was kind of nice actually). About 15 minutes into the massage I told her to lie back down and relax as she was obviously exhausted. She slept for about 20 minutes / I showered and got dressed then her cell went off for the 10 minute warning. I was pretty much ready to head out anyways so we exchanged goodbyes and left. Overall not a bad experience at all. LOVE the fact that the price is pretty much all inclusive. And am considering the 3p for my next visit. A big thanks to SGTKreoss for posting this service as I had a pretty good time and the price was great.

Have fun out there / stay safe

[QUOTE=Manmeat; 1202096]I'm currently staying in the yokohama area and would like to experience a soapland today if possible. I'm limited with no GPS on getting around, any assistance would be appreciated.From my reading the forums that their is a Kings Club and a why-Fantasy, and they seem to be getting used as the same place? [url]http://www.y-fantasy.com/top.php[/url][url]http://www.kings-club.net/top.php[/url]Either one, I can't tell how to find them exactly. Anybody have the coordinates I can plug into maps. Google. Com and figure it out from there.Also if there is another place that is closer to my current location, I'd appreciate the info as well.Thanks in Advance[/QUOTE]Posted this earlier and it didn't show up. Please let me know how it goes I believe these are gaijin friendly! [url]http://www.y-hanabi.com[/url][url]http://www.yokohama-mermaid.com[/url][url]http://hamahel.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Captpaizuri; 1202126]Checked out X-Ray a couple weeks back (sorry have been really busy or I'd have posted sooner). With much different results than I had at delicious. Pretty much the polar opposite of the great experience I had at delicious. Gal was late (like an hour) which kind of put me in a bind I basically had to run back to the station afterwards, obviously was not the girl I had asked for (not even close. They must farm out work when they are busy cause she's not on their website) , tried to up sell me on the price of sex option (10, 000. Same price on their website for AF so I'm pretty sure that's not legit) which I did not opt for. Not GFE at all very mechanical, go through the motions type of thing. She looked like the typical Shibuya orange hair, knobby kneed, siting around outside of a combini bar fly. The only good thing is she let me shoot on her face, which I really enjoyed cause this gal was kinda bitchy from the get go. X-Ray is a pass for me from now on. I really should have sent her away at the door, however I was pressed for time and really wanted to see a little action that night so to my dismay I let her in. Oh well, you learn more from the bad experiences in the life than the good ones.

Wanting to put that experience far far from my memory as possible I decided to try hipness last week.

[url]www.hipness.jp[/url]

Got to Uguisudani about 1230 pm and gave them a call, the japanese cat that answered the phone told me to hang on and someone would call me back in a couple minutes. A few minutes later an English speaking gentlemen called, really helpful with directions and love hotel recommendations. It was pretty busy that day so he said I'd have to wait until 230pm to meet up with the girl, no problem so I booked Lisa a 24 year old Thai gal and walked around for a bit before checking into the Ivy hotel. Word to the wise the Ivy hotel is the girl's least favorite hotel in the area (it's really nothing special at all, but was 3700 for 3 hours so cheap at least) Lisa said they all basically sigh when ever the get a customer in that hotel. I can see why, amenities aren't really that great, it's a small cramped room, and the AC barely works.

[url]http://www.hipness.jp/schedule.cgi?proc=profile&name=risa[/url]

(she and the guy both said her name was Lisa and I'm pretty sure from the pictures this was her. The website says Risa. Engrish I'm guessing)

Lisa arrived shortly after I check in at 1430 and I received a text from the English speaking guy, checking to see she was there and all was good. Lisa is a very attractive gal. Slender with large C breasts, not much of an ass but wasn't so bad it detracted from her performance. We took care of business (I opted for 80 minutes at 13000) and jumped in the shower. She was very thorough in washing, lots of attention to Willy and the boys. Also some BBBJ in the shower as well. After that back to the bedroom for some more BBBJ / 69 and then she began to ride cowboy for a bit (skills were ok). From the look of things she was pretty tired so I switched to mish for a while and then to doggy. She started to dry up about 30 minutes into it so we switched to her giving me and incredible BBBJ which finished with CIM (she told me that was ok but no shooting inside her.) Very good oral skills, cupping / attention to the boys, slurping, eye contact, took it pretty deep. It didn't take long for her to get me off at all. After that we relaxed and then she gave me a massage with some toned down ICYHOT type of lotion (was kind of nice actually). About 15 minutes into the massage I told her to lie back down and relax as she was obviously exhausted. She slept for about 20 minutes / I showered and got dressed then her cell went off for the 10 minute warning. I was pretty much ready to head out anyways so we exchanged goodbyes and left. Overall not a bad experience at all. LOVE the fact that the price is pretty much all inclusive. And am considering the 3p for my next visit. A big thanks to SGTKreoss for posting this service as I had a pretty good time and the price was great.

Have fun out there / stay safe[/QUOTE]. Since japanese don't have anything for "L", and substitute it with "R". Such as London=Rondon.

A question: What is CIM, if you are not shooting inside?

Anyway thanks for the report. Always useful.

[QUOTE=Manmeat; 1202096]I'm currently staying in the yokohama area and would like to experience a soapland today if possible. I'm limited with no GPS on getting around, any assistance would be appreciated.

From my reading the forums that their is a Kings Club and a why-Fantasy, and they seem to be getting used as the same place?

[url]http://www.y-fantasy.com/top.php[/url]

[url]http://www.kings-club.net/top.php[/url]

Either one, I can't tell how to find them exactly. Anybody have the coordinates I can plug into maps. Google. Com and figure it out from there.

Also if there is another place that is closer to my current location, I'd appreciate the info as well.

Thanks in Advance[/QUOTE]Probably too late, but the answer is to call them, they do have some basic english speaker. They will fix you an appointyment at the usuigaudani Yamamote line station, and will come to pick you up there. No need to struggle with Google.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1202182]Probably too late, but the answer is to call them, they do have some basic english speaker. They will fix you an appointyment at the usuigaudani Yamamote line station, and will come to pick you up there. No need to struggle with Google.[/QUOTE]Thanks for responding, I ventured out and eventually found Kings to just get rejected. LOL Here are the coordinates 35. 723425, 139. 795119 if I only had a GPS that worked here. It was interesting to just walk around and see all the shops, wish I spoke the language.I ended up finding a place called "Fantasy" I recall cutting through the alley by Alladin and finding it. Was hoping it was why-fantasy place, but not sure. The place seemed ok was busy. Got the non-japanese special 28, 000 for 60min. Sat in the waiting area for about 15 min with some other gentlemen, prior to meeting Ryo I believe is her name. Spoke a little english which was nice, had a nice sweet body, except for a nasty looking bruise on her bicep. She said she slipped doing a soapy.Anyways, popped my cherry got my first soapy / nuru. It was cool, wish I did longer than the hour, seemed like time went by way too quick. We did the slip and slide for a bit, then suggested to wash it off, and hit the bed, for some serious activites.

[QUOTE=Captpaizuri;1202126]Checked out X-Ray a couple weeks back (sorry have been really busy or I'd have posted sooner). With much different results than I had at delicious. Pretty much the polar opposite of the great experience I had at delicious. Gal was late (like an hour) which kind of put me in a bind I basically had to run back to the station afterwards, obviously was not the girl I had asked for (not even close. They must farm out work when they are busy cause she's not on their website) , tried to up sell me on the price of sex option (10, 000. Same price on their website for AF so I'm pretty sure that's not legit) which I did not opt for. Not GFE at all very mechanical, go through the motions type of thing. She looked like the typical Shibuya orange hair, knobby kneed, siting around outside of a combini bar fly. The only good thing is she let me shoot on her face, which I really enjoyed cause this gal was kinda bitchy from the get go. X-Ray is a pass for me from now on. I really should have sent her away at the door, however I was pressed for time and really wanted to see a little action that night so to my dismay I let her in. Oh well, you learn more from the bad experiences in the life than the good ones.[/QUOTE]I've never used X-Ray but I used TinEye on 5 of their pictures, and it turned up some interesting results. For example,"Sora" is actually Miho Maeshima, a well-known AV actress, and "Sakura" is Yuka Kosaka, a gravure model. Every pic I checked had been copied from somewhere else; in short, I imagine none of the girls pictured actually work there, and X-Ray should be avoided. Sorry you spent money for a bad experience, but at least you had a good time with Hipness.

[quote=jpn dude; 1191897]no problem. just trying to help out.

since you're in the makuhari area, take jr keiyo line all the way to the last stop, tokyo station (40 min).

at tokyo station, go up a few escalators and up the long walkway and catch jr yamanote line.

get on yamanote line heading for "ueno, ikebukuro" (platform 4).

along that line are stations / locations every 2-3 minutes mentioned in various posts in the "tokyo" forum. try to search these station names together with keywords like "massage" or "soapland."

below is a quick summary of stations, by no means complete:

kanda, okachimachi, ueno, nippori: chinese massage and "este" salons. korean massage and "este" salons.

ueno: japanese soapland (foreigner friendly and cheap, older ladies)

yoshiwara (via ueno and iriya subway station) : japanese soapland (few foreigner friendly and pricey, younger ladies)

sugamo, otsuka, ikebukuro: chinese massage and "este" salons. korean massage and "este" salons.

hope it helps. good luck.[/quote]i had posted a geography question on the japan info forum and got a great response from jpndude. but since i realize i should have put it in the tokyo section here is where i will continue.

while the outcome wasn't great, thanks jpndude for the guidance, it was very helpful in figuring out how to get places.

i ventured out monday, it was a bit of a jet lag day but i wanted to give it a go. after a bit i figured out the transit system and was soon whipping around tokyo. i had some non-mongering destinations to get to and made without a problem.

my mongering plan was to check out the japanese soapland near the ueno stop but realized i didn't have enough information on the location. i am here until sunday so i will make another attempt.

eventually i ended up by the yoshiwara soap lands around 7:30pm. i got off at the minowa station and it is an easy 6-8 block walk.

it was weird seeing all the guys in suits standing out in front looking for customers. i wandered around for awhile try to figure which i should choose. the posted price ranges were quite dramatic. i eventually picked one called alladin. we agreed on 80 minutes for 28, 000. (okay so i'm not the negotiator i think i am.)

there were only two girls available. i picked one and then headed upstairs. i don't speak japanese and she didn't speak english, so that was slightly confusing, but away we went.

she had filled a tub with water, went and got some drinks, (tea or coffee. cold in a can) and we drank. then i stripped and she had me sit in the tub. it was a little rediculous in that when i got in it immediately overflowed, but the room was designed for that. while sitting in the tub she washed herself and then we each brushed our teeth. strange in that there wasn't sink to spit into, just the tile floor that the tub drained out to. anyway, after that, she had me get on the stool and started the deep cleaning of my groin. i thought it might be a nice experience since i go with table showers in the states and have fun there. it was mostly mechanical. after that she rinsed me off and she had me step onto a mat and she handed me a towel to dry off. they it was to the bed. i will now speed up the description because it wasn't much. she started with a covered blow job. the old put the condom on with your mouth technique. that technique works much better when you are hard. i wasn't, as she really did nothing to get me going.

eventually i did get hard. she left the room to get a different condom, maybe one with more sensitivity. i was trying to ask her about the soapy part of the event, but never got an answer. after awhile she blew me covered to completion. at that point, unbeknownst to me, we were done. she had me get in the tub, and she proceeded to give herself another shower. i'm not sure why because she barely touched me with her body.

so i don't think i really had the right experience. i am going to try again either thursday or saturday. hopefully i will have better luck. some experience that is a bit more erotic.

i would not recommend aladdin.

[quote=seven spot; 1203178]i had posted a geography question on the japan info forum and got a great response from jpndude. but since i realize i should have put it in the tokyo section here is where i will continue.

while the outcome wasn't great, thanks jpndude for the guidance, it was very helpful in figuring out how to get places.

i ventured out monday, it was a bit of a jet lag day but i wanted to give it a go. after a bit i figured out the transit system and was soon whipping around tokyo. i had some non-mongering destinations to get to and made without a problem.

my mongering plan was to check out the japanese soapland near the ueno stop but realized i didn't have enough information on the location. i am here until sunday so i will make another attempt.

eventually i ended up by the yoshiwara soap lands around 7:30pm. i got off at the minowa station and it is an easy 6-8 block walk.

it was weird seeing all the guys in suits standing out in front looking for customers. i wandered around for awhile try to figure which i should choose. the posted price ranges were quite dramatic. i eventually picked one called alladin. we agreed on 80 minutes for 28, 000. (okay so i'm not the negotiator i think i am.)

there were only two girls available. i picked one and then headed upstairs. i don't speak japanese and she didn't speak english, so that was slightly confusing, but away we went.

she had filled a tub with water, went and got some drinks, (tea or coffee. cold in a can) and we drank. then i stripped and she had me sit in the tub. it was a little rediculous in that when i got in it immediately overflowed, but the room was designed for that. while sitting in the tub she washed herself and then we each brushed our teeth. strange in that there wasn't sink to spit into, just the tile floor that the tub drained out to. anyway, after that, she had me get on the stool and started the deep cleaning of my groin. i thought it might be a nice experience since i go with table showers in the states and have fun there. it was mostly mechanical. after that she rinsed me off and she had me step onto a mat and she handed me a towel to dry off. they it was to the bed. i will now speed up the description because it wasn't much. she started with a covered blow job. the old put the condom on with your mouth technique. that technique works much better when you are hard. i wasn't, as she really did nothing to get me going.

eventually i did get hard. she left the room to get a different condom, maybe one with more sensitivity. i was trying to ask her about the soapy part of the event, but never got an answer. after awhile she blew me covered to completion. at that point, unbeknownst to me, we were done. she had me get in the tub, and she proceeded to give herself another shower. i'm not sure why because she barely touched me with her body.

so i don't think i really had the right experience. i am going to try again either thursday or saturday. hopefully i will have better luck. some experience that is a bit more erotic.

i would not recommend aladdin.[/quote]thnaks fopr the rep[ort, and you did well for a first timer in tokyo.

a few comments:

the price you got, i believe is the minimum you can get for a gaijin, but niormally you can get 80 min and mat play for this price. and there is very little room for negociation in japan anyway.

it is unfortunate that you had only 2 girls to choose from, and that you could not communicate. that may explain, partly, the way things went.

if you have time and money, try fantasy, choose a girl on the website, and make the booking online, following the instructions in english.

with regards to ueno, i assume that you mean newyork weyork or champs. be aware that these are non fs place, and that "girls" are more likely to be a 50+ housewife. not always, it is hiot or miss as far as the provider is concerend. service is always good though, and for the tprice, it is unbeatable. just thought you needed to know.

Hey everyone in Tokyo. So I read about 10 pages of this thread before I decided to post.I want to try this out.I am 25 years old, white guy from America. I have lived in Tokyo off and on for 3 years and so I am fluent in Japanese.I am sort of tired of going to clubs because even if you do manage to drag a girl back to a love hotel, you still have to pay club entrance fee, drinks and then when you are finally at the hotel, you are both dead tired from dancing and the fact that you stayed up all night until 5am.I figure a professional will be able to give me a much better time than some girl who is pretty much wasted and about to fall asleep.So, my questions for you:1) I don't have much money since I am still young. Where is the cheapest place in Tokyo where I can get the most bang for my buck? Since I am a young guy, I need to cum a lot. I think you can understand. Even after I cum one time, I am still hard and want to keep going. Sometimes, I need to cum 5 times in the girl before I start to slow down.2) Of course I want to fuck young girls but I also have a fantasy of being with a woman who is in her 30s or 40s. Are there any places that are good for this kind of thing? 3) Any recommendations for a place where the girls are really nice? I have never done this before so I am a little afraid and don't really know how to go about it once I am there with the girl. Any advice would be appreciated and any recommendation on a place where the girls are really friendly and helpful would be great.Thanks, I really appreciate this.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1203183]Thnaks fopr the rep[ort, and you did well for a first timer in Tokyo.

A few comments:

The price you got, I believe is the minimum you can get for a gaijin, but niormally you can get 80 min and mat play for this price. And there is very little room for negociation in Japan anyway.

It is unfortunate that you had only 2 girls to choose from, and that you could not communicate. That may explain, partly, the way things went.

If you have time and money, try Fantasy, choose a girl on the website, and make the booking online, following the instructions in English.

With regards to Ueno, I assume that you mean NewYork weYork or Champs. Be aware that these are non FS place, and that "girls" are more likely to be a 50+ housewife. Not always, it is hiot or miss as far as the provider is concerend. Service is always good though, and for the tprice, it is unbeatable. Just thought you needed to know.[/QUOTE]That's good to know. I will check into Fantasy. I will also check into New York New York and Champs. I just need to do some work on geography. Not also looking for FS since most of the AMPs I have visited don't go there (or at least I don't seek them out) , personally I'm more looking for the erotic contact during the rub etc. I also try for two shots.

[QUOTE=Seven Spot;1203290]That's good to know. I will check into Fantasy. I will also check into New York New York and Champs. I just need to do some work on geography. Not also looking for FS since most of the AMPs I have visited don't go there (or at least I don't seek them out) , personally I'm more looking for the erotic contact during the rub etc. I also try for two shots.[/QUOTE]Fantasy: they will come and pick you up at usuguadani station, so no need to do any geographical search.

NYNY, is in the red light district South of Ueno and stations. It is small, so just walk around, look for a shop with a kind of Liberty statue, and american flag, in one of the small alleys parallel to the main road. Good luck.

[QUOTE=BlueCraze; 1203279]Hey everyone in Tokyo. So I read about 10 pages of this thread before I decided to post.I want to try this out.I am 25 years old, white guy from America. I have lived in Tokyo off and on for 3 years and so I am fluent in Japanese.I am sort of tired of going to clubs because even if you do manage to drag a girl back to a love hotel, you still have to pay club entrance fee, drinks and then when you are finally at the hotel, you are both dead tired from dancing and the fact that you stayed up all night until 5am.I figure a professional will be able to give me a much better time than some girl who is pretty much wasted and about to fall asleep.So, my questions for you:1) I don't have much money since I am still young. Where is the cheapest place in Tokyo where I can get the most bang for my buck? Since I am a young guy, I need to cum a lot. I think you can understand. Even after I cum one time, I am still hard and want to keep going. Sometimes, I need to cum 5 times in the girl before I start to slow down.2) Of course I want to fuck young girls but I also have a fantasy of being with a woman who is in her 30s or 40s. Are there any places that are good for this kind of thing? 3) Any recommendations for a place where the girls are really nice? I have never done this before so I am a little afraid and don't really know how to go about it once I am there with the girl. Any advice would be appreciated and any recommendation on a place where the girls are really friendly and helpful would be great.Thanks, I really appreciate this.[/QUOTE]Hi BlueCraze.1) Not too sure about this, but afaik in most FS places in Tokyo you pay per hour, not per pop. So I guess it's up to you how many pops you can squeeze in the time you bought. Not sure how the girl would react too you cuming 5 times though. Maybe one of the senior members can shed more light on this.Regarding the price, not sure how you usually spend for LH+club entrance+drinks, but I'm guessing its above 15, 000, which is also the minimum you'll pay at a FS shop. So unless you really spend much more on clubbing, I don't see how p4p would save you money. Not to mention that choices and the quality of girls will probably be lower than what you can find in Shibuya clubs (not sure what you usually pull, but it's probably a decent catch). So the only thing you would save is time, but you will also most likely have a lot of misses.2). Older women should not be a problem in any shop. However, you can probably do better in foreigner bars and clubs in roppongi, where older japanese ladies go to meet foreigners.3). My recomandations would be delicious and hipness. Search the thread for details.Hope this was helpful.

[QUOTE=Seven Spot;1203290]That's good to know. I will check into Fantasy. I will also check into New York New York and Champs. I just need to do some work on geography. Not also looking for FS since most of the AMPs I have visited don't go there (or at least I don't seek them out) , personally I'm more looking for the erotic contact during the rub etc. I also try for two shots.[/QUOTE]Here ya go. This is the walking route from JR OKACHIMACHI Station to NYNY and CHAMPS. I used this station since its the nearest to the locales.

[url]http://g.co/maps/hbm75[/url]

Use the NORTH EXIT out of the station. On the main street in front of you, cross it and PROCEED LEFT (perpendicular to the train tracks).

You'll reach a major intersection, cross and continue straight. When you come to the SECOND narrow street on the RIGHT, turn there.

Walk up that street for about 60m. As previously posted, NYNY will have a giant Statue of Liberty on the building face on the left side of the street. I believe it's a RED building with a tinted glass door. CHAMPS will be immediately around the corner of that building to your left.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=BlueCraze; 1203279]Hey everyone in Tokyo. So I read about 10 pages of this thread before I decided to post.

I want to try this out.

I am 25 years old, white guy from America. I have lived in Tokyo off and on for 3 years and so I am fluent in Japanese.

I am sort of tired of going to clubs because even if you do manage to drag a girl back to a love hotel, you still have to pay club entrance fee, drinks and then when you are finally at the hotel, you are both dead tired from dancing and the fact that you stayed up all night until 5am.

I figure a professional will be able to give me a much better time than some girl who is pretty much wasted and about to fall asleep.

So, my questions for you:

1) I don't have much money since I am still young. Where is the cheapest place in Tokyo where I can get the most bang for my buck? Since I am a young guy, I need to cum a lot. I think you can understand. Even after I cum one time, I am still hard and want to keep going. Sometimes, I need to cum 5 times in the girl before I start to slow down.

2) Of course I want to fuck young girls but I also have a fantasy of being with a woman who is in her 30s or 40s. Are there any places that are good for this kind of thing?

3) Any recommendations for a place where the girls are really nice? I have never done this before so I am a little afraid and don't really know how to go about it once I am there with the girl. Any advice would be appreciated and any recommendation on a place where the girls are really friendly and helpful would be great.

Thanks, I really appreciate this.[/QUOTE]The best "bang for you buck" would be the Chinese esute shops. They're generally very inexpensive, get you FS (the girl initiates it) , and guarantee at least two pops for 1 hour + courses. If you're allowed into the places (all shops let you know right away) the girls are usually very friendly as there are a lines of people back in China itching to replace them. The usual problem is that you have to phone in to make a reservation and get directions to the shop, but since you're fluent in Japanese there should be no problem. The places I went to before have all closed (these shops come and go regularly) but I still have a list of shops that are open that I haven't tried. If you try one please let me know how it is as I am curious myself.

[url]http://www.s-diamond.net/system.html[/url]

[url]http://www.suite-esthe.com/top.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.catgirls-club.com/top.html[/url]

[url]http://t-nurse.info/top.php[/url]

[url]http://www.n-diamond.net/top.html[/url]

[url]http://www.sale-girl.info/top.php[/url]

[url]http://www.x-newstyle.com/sys.php[/url]

[url]http://www.n-goddess.com/access.html[/url]

Planning trip to Japan. Would like to know which city is good for mongering-I'm into pregnant.So will Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima, nagasaki or elsewhere would be good for mongering for pregnant services?

[QUOTE=Dewdrops; 1203822]Planning trip to Japan. Would like to know which city is good for mongering-I'm into pregnant.

So will Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Hiroshima, nagasaki or elsewhere would be good for mongering for pregnant services?[/QUOTE]Nope. No pregant girls in those cities. Japan has too low a birthrate LOL.

Try here, but you will probably need some Japanese. Don't expect FS.

[url]http://www.chichipara.com/bonyu/[/url]

Any info on brazilian girls in Japan?

[QUOTE=BlueCraze;1203279]Where is the cheapest place in Tokyo where I can get the most bang for my buck? Since I am a young guy, I need to cum a lot. I think you can understand. Even after I cum one time, I am still hard and want to keep going. Sometimes, I need to cum 5 times in the girl before I start to slow down.[/QUOTE]Most KDH have a pricing scale which allows multiple or unlimited shots. But more shots=more time=more money.

Pink salons will often let you go multiple times as will DH, but no FS guarantee.

I agree Chinese Este is the cheapest FS. One place I went in Ueno had one shot for 7, 000, two shots for 10, 000.

I'm not looking for sex, I'd just like to visit a girls bar where you can make out with a few girls and touch them above the waist.Every one of those places I've been to has turned me away for my whiteness despite the fact that I can communicate fairly well in Japanese.Has anyone had any luck with these places?

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude; 1203723]Here ya go. This is the walking route from JR OKACHIMACHI Station to NYNY and CHAMPS. I used this station since its the nearest to the locales.

[url]http://g.co/maps/hbm75[/url]

Use the NORTH EXIT out of the station. On the main street in front of you, cross it and PROCEED LEFT (perpendicular to the train tracks).

You'll reach a major intersection, cross and continue straight. When you come to the SECOND narrow street on the RIGHT, turn there.

Walk up that street for about 60m. As previously posted, NYNY will have a giant Statue of Liberty on the building face on the left side of the street. I believe it's a RED building with a tinted glass door. CHAMPS will be immediately around the corner of that building to your left.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Wow, a map and everything. You are generous again. Thanks, I will give it a go tomorrow (my last full day here).

Thanks to you and Dreams for helping me out.

Girls bars in Shizuoka City are foreigner friendly. It is fun the first time or two with the making out, unlimited titty feeling and sucking and letting your hands wander downstairs. But the fun wears off when you realize you can get a blow job and in some cases more for the same price elsewhere.

Lots of Brazilian girls in Shizuoka and especially Hamamatsu, but I am not that familiar with the scene.

I remember someone asking about Hiromi from Asian Mystique a while back. I spent a couple of hours with her a few weeks ago. Quite attractive lady (in my opinion) she is sweet talking and all that. We had a good chat about almost everything. The core of the session was nice, although she may have been a bit passive to my liking (I should try a dominatrix) , and not really expressing herself to judge whether she liked what I was doing (good feedback is always important. Even if the lady is faking it).All in all, it was a satisfying experience. However, the rise of Hipness may be a serious blow to AM's business. As for the price of my session with Hiromi, I could have a 3P session with Masa and Lisa! You can be sure I will be stopping by this area of town real soon!

[QUOTE=Taratata; 1204270]I remember someone asking about Hiromi from Asian Mystique a while back. I spent a couple of hours with her a few weeks ago. Quite attractive lady (in my opinion) she is sweet talking and all that. We had a good chat about almost everything. The core of the session was nice, although she may have been a bit passive to my liking (I should try a dominatrix) , and not really expressing herself to judge whether she liked what I was doing (good feedback is always important. Even if the lady is faking it).

All in all, it was a satisfying experience. However, the rise of Hipness may be a serious blow to AM's business. As for the price of my session with Hiromi, I could have a 3P session with Masa and Lisa! You can be sure I will be stopping by this area of town real soon![/QUOTE]I guess the reason why some people will still use AM is because all the girls are Japanese, and can speak English. I can get Chinese, Korean, Thai girls almost everywhere in the world, but hardly any cute japanese girl. Ha! Manami, still in my memories after many years.

Having said that I will surely experiment Hipness when I am there next.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1204363]I guess the reason why some people will still use AM is because all the girls are Japanese, and can speak English. I can get Chinese, Korean, Thai girls almost everywhere in the world, but hardly any cute japanese girl. Ha! Manami, still in my memories after many years.[/QUOTE]True, I omitted the language aspect of the matter. However, I speak very little Japanese and I guess it makes the situation most of the time, quite amusing as long as we can get through the door. I guess we only need enough Japanese to get by Mama-san or Papa-san. After that it is usually a done deal. I have found that me not speaking much Japanese gets me treated rather well as I am making fun of it. Joking about being sorry for not speaking the language after being around for a while has gotten me some extras on deals. I'll keep this attitude for the future.

Try milkybaby. Jp

[QUOTE=Regnar; 1204092]I'm not looking for sex, I'd just like to visit a girls bar where you can make out with a few girls and touch them above the waist.Every one of those places I've been to has turned me away for my whiteness despite the fact that I can communicate fairly well in Japanese.Has anyone had any luck with these places?[/QUOTE]Girl's bars are places where you talk to the staff, drink, play games etc. Only. No touching or making out allowed and the girls are almost always on the other side of a bar. Most will let you in if you speak enough Japanese to chat to the girls. They start at around 4, 000 yen / hour and often all your beer is included.At Kybukura the girls sit next to you but otherwise the deal is similar to girls bars and no making out (at least at the Japanese ones.). More expensive than girls bars and harder to get into.Oppai bars are bars where you go to fondle and make out. Prices start at around 10, 000 / hour. Since you speak Japanese just tell one of the Japanese pimps in Shinjuku or Ueno that you want an Oppai bar and they should be able to take you to one that's OK with you. The information booth in Shinjuku has also been helped me out in the past.Some of these places are also more likely to turn you away on busy nights so you'll probably have less chance of success on a Friday.With all these places keep an eye on your bill. You pay at the end so you need to make sure that you understand all the charges that are going to come your way, and since many of these places are run by gang members you can easily end up with a bill for 100, 000 yen just for talking to a girl for a few hours.

Have been back on the pay scene for some months now and settled to my normal schedule. Usually all is good, you get your misses but you get your hits too.A week ago managed to get myself accidentally drunk early afternoon and so my regular joint for a short FS relieve was not open yet. This place is really good, the guy will tell honestly if they do not have any good girls free at the time and I have even slept there a couple of times after finishing the deed and missing the last train.I however bumbed into another tout I have met many times before and he invited me over telling their "best service girl" is available right now.Went in against my better judgement and was introduced to your typical Chinese working girl, nice body, big tits and shitty attitude. Everything was wrong for her, she kept complaining all the fucking time (pun intended) ; not to touch her hair, not to touch her breast and continued to just lay there demanding me to finish soon.She tried the old "you are too big for me" so she could not get on top but just passively wait it out. Someone has to tell these girls that line was old 20 years ago! Usually I would just grit my teeth and pump it to finish but this time I had enough, put my clothes on and went downstairs to ask the tout how bad the other girls must be.He was saying sorry and that they would talk with the girl later but I was fuming so they called in the manager. He came in and was all bossy and telling me that if I sticked it in them the deal is done. I asked him if he would pay full price in restaurant if the first bite revealed the dish to be shit and he replied "you foreigners do not understand the rules".That made me flip over as he was Chinese himself! LOL. Must have been a treat for the Japanese tout as his Chinese manager and a whitey customer where yelling each other really abusive Japanese for 10 minutes.Finally he decided to give me back 2. 000 out of the 10. 000 I paid and tell me never come back again. I told him there is not enough booze in the world to make me come back again and walked to a nearby pink salon.They had previously told me it is Japanese only but it must be the economy as this time I was invited in for 4. 000 yen. The girl was young, good looking and really chatty so all is good that ends good. On leaving the girl even handed me a discount coupon for next time, so it will be only 3. 000.So all in all an interesting afternoon. Found out later that I probably had quite much more whiskey than I though as I almost did not manage to find the pink salon again the next day, and this is an area I have been frequenting for six years.

Does anybody have the directions to Hipness and what to expect upon first visit? Also website link would be nice.

[QUOTE=OldGeezer; 1206096]Have been back on the pay scene for some months now and settled to my normal schedule. Usually all is good, you get your misses but you get your hits too.

A week ago managed to get myself accidentally drunk early afternoon and so my regular joint for a short FS relieve was not open yet. This place is really good, the guy will tell honestly if they do not have any good girls free at the time and I have even slept there a couple of times after finishing the deed and missing the last train.

I however bumbed into another tout I have met many times before and he invited me over telling their "best service girl" is available right now.

Went in against my better judgement and was introduced to your typical Chinese working girl, nice body, big tits and shitty attitude. Everything was wrong for her, she kept complaining all the fucking time (pun intended) ; not to touch her hair, not to touch her breast and continued to just lay there demanding me to finish soon.

She tried the old "you are too big for me" so she could not get on top but just passively wait it out. Someone has to tell these girls that line was old 20 years ago!

Usually I would just grit my teeth and pump it to finish but this time I had enough, put my clothes on and went downstairs to ask the tout how bad the other girls must be.

He was saying sorry and that they would talk with the girl later but I was fuming so they called in the manager. He came in and was all bossy and telling me that if I sticked it in them the deal is done. I asked him if he would pay full price in restaurant if the first bite revealed the dish to be shit and he replied "you foreigners do not understand the rules".

That made me flip over as he was Chinese himself! LOL. Must have been a treat for the Japanese tout as his Chinese manager and a whitey customer where yelling each other really abusive Japanese for 10 minutes.

Finally he decided to give me back 2. 000 out of the 10. 000 I paid and tell me never come back again. I told him there is not enough booze in the world to make me come back again and walked to a nearby pink salon.

They had previously told me it is Japanese only but it must be the economy as this time I was invited in for 4. 000 yen. The girl was young, good looking and really chatty so all is good that ends good. On leaving the girl even handed me a discount coupon for next time, so it will be only 3. 000.

So all in all an interesting afternoon. Found out later that I probably had quite much more whiskey than I though as I almost did not manage to find the pink salon again the next day, and this is an area I have been frequenting for six years.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, but may I ask where this was?

[QUOTE=Geescummy;1206254]Does anybody have the directions to Hipness and what to expect upon first visit? Also website link would be nice.[/QUOTE]You go to [url]www.hipness.jp[/url] Then they come to you.

Hey.

Went to GasPanic in Shibuya last night. Disappointed. Small crowd, not many girls.

Is the one on ropingi better?

Anyone going out tonight?

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1206309]Thanks for the report, but may I ask where this was?[/QUOTE]I'll second this. If you don't tell us where you where or the names of any of these places, it's just a sort of rambling account of the kind of thing that might happen if you got drunk and wandered around a red light area.

Although this report probably should be moved to the Nanpa thread. Yes, the Gas Panics in Roppongi are better than the one in Shibuya. Keep in mind that the girls in the Gas Panics at Shibuya or Roppongi are not hookers, if that is what you are looking for.[QUOTE=Surf Looker; 1206509]Hey.Went to GasPanic in Shibuya last night. Disappointed. Small crowd, not many girls.Is the one on ropingi better? Anyone going out tonight?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xslikx;1206522]I'll second this. If you don't tell us where you where or the names of any of these places, it's just a sort of rambling account of the kind of thing that might happen if you got drunk and wandered around a red light area.[/QUOTE]I agree that it might look like a random ramble but only because that is what it is! My preferred playground is Kamata which is an old blue collar town. Maybe that is why the area has a no-nonsense attitude, most of the places are get-in, get-off and get-out kind of shops. Nobody speaks English and most of the places do not allow foreigners.You get out from the Nishiguchi or West exit and get to the roundabout in front of you. Go left past the police box for the pink salons and straight ahead for the FS and massage places. Most of the FS places do not have names and if they do they change regularly. The places usually stay the same though.This far there has been just one pink salon that has allowed foreigners in. You will find that on the left side of the road opposite to the big karaoke place after walking one block left from the West exit. The name might have been Shiroi koibito or something like that. They charge 4 thousand yens and the girls do try to get you into a FS and ask only 2 or 3 thousand more for that. The world girls is used very liberally here as most of them might have been pretty when young but that must have been around the time I was born and I have gray in my hair now.At the same block there are several other pink salons and seems they have much younger girls but these have been out of bounds from anybody not looking 100% Japanese this far. The exception last time was a place called Cat's eye but even there the old patron made sure I speak fluent Japanese before letting me in. As said the first visit was well worth the 4 thousand yens, but unfortunately the second time the lady was way over my preferred age group and as it seemed to be the fact with most of them I am not sure I will visit again.To get to the FS / este area you go straight from the West exit through the roundabout and enter between the Lawson and Acom to the Chuo Doori. As said most of the places do not let foreigners in even if you speak fluent Japanese. The place totally not recommend is in the right side and in the middle of the block. They have a screen saying massage for 8k and a tout or two always standing in front of the place.I actually used to frequent this place several years ago but then the owner was a different guy and they mostly had Taiwanese girls in there. Now they seem to have only girls from mainland China.

Are you sure it's the west exit of JR Kamata? In my experience most of the esute shops are on the east side toward Keikyu Kamata. I never went to the west side because I wasn't sure if there were any shops on that side. I know of a Lawson on the west side just outside of the circle but I don't know of any on the east side. I use Keikyu so I go from the east side of Keikyu Kamata.

[QUOTE=OldGeezer; 1206858]I agree that it might look like a random ramble but only because that is what it is!

My preferred playground is Kamata which is an old blue collar town. Maybe that is why the area has a no-nonsense attitude, most of the places are get-in, get-off and get-out kind of shops. Nobody speaks English and most of the places do not allow foreigners.

You get out from the Nishiguchi or West exit and get to the roundabout in front of you. Go left past the police box for the pink salons and straight ahead for the FS and massage places. Most of the FS places do not have names and if they do they change regularly. The places usually stay the same though.

This far there has been just one pink salon that has allowed foreigners in. You will find that on the left side of the road opposite to the big karaoke place after walking one block left from the West exit. The name might have been Shiroi koibito or something like that. They charge 4 thousand yens and the girls do try to get you into a FS and ask only 2 or 3 thousand more for that. The world girls is used very liberally here as most of them might have been pretty when young but that must have been around the time I was born and I have gray in my hair now.

At the same block there are several other pink salons and seems they have much younger girls but these have been out of bounds from anybody not looking 100% Japanese this far. The exception last time was a place called Cat's eye but even there the old patron made sure I speak fluent Japanese before letting me in. As said the first visit was well worth the 4 thousand yens, but unfortunately the second time the lady was way over my preferred age group and as it seemed to be the fact with most of them I am not sure I will visit again.

To get to the FS / este area you go straight from the West exit through the roundabout and enter between the Lawson and Acom to the Chuo Doori. As said most of the places do not let foreigners in even if you speak fluent Japanese. The place totally not recommend is in the right side and in the middle of the block. They have a screen saying massage for 8k and a tout or two always standing in front of the place.

I actually used to frequent this place several years ago but then the owner was a different guy and they mostly had Taiwanese girls in there. Now they seem to have only girls from mainland China.[/QUOTE]

I think you got your exits confused. It's the east exit that has the police box and most of the action. Also, Chuo Doori is between Acom and a Karaoke place. Lawson isn't there anymore. Cat's Eye is still there, but I couldn't find any of the other places you mentioned. There are a fair amount of pink salons in the area and I was welcomed at a surprising number of them, but couldn't manage to find any of the FS Chinese places. Este places were there with the normal HJ finish, but that's about it.I still don't get all the Chinese girls all standing no the main street on the left side of the east exit who seemingly want nothing to do with foreigners.[QUOTE=OldGeezer; 1206858]I agree that it might look like a random ramble but only because that is what it is! My preferred playground is Kamata which is an old blue collar town. Maybe that is why the area has a no-nonsense attitude, most of the places are get-in, get-off and get-out kind of shops. Nobody speaks English and most of the places do not allow foreigners.You get out from the Nishiguchi or West exit and get to the roundabout in front of you. Go left past the police box for the pink salons and straight ahead for the FS and massage places. Most of the FS places do not have names and if they do they change regularly. The places usually stay the same though.This far there has been just one pink salon that has allowed foreigners in. You will find that on the left side of the road opposite to the big karaoke place after walking one block left from the West exit. The name might have been Shiroi koibito or something like that. They charge 4 thousand yens and the girls do try to get you into a FS and ask only 2 or 3 thousand more for that. The world girls is used very liberally here as most of them might have been pretty when young but that must have been around the time I was born and I have gray in my hair now.At the same block there are several other pink salons and seems they have much younger girls but these have been out of bounds from anybody not looking 100% Japanese this far. The exception last time was a place called Cat's eye but even there the old patron made sure I speak fluent Japanese before letting me in. As said the first visit was well worth the 4 thousand yens, but unfortunately the second time the lady was way over my preferred age group and as it seemed to be the fact with most of them I am not sure I will visit again.To get to the FS / este area you go straight from the West exit through the roundabout and enter between the Lawson and Acom to the Chuo Doori. As said most of the places do not let foreigners in even if you speak fluent Japanese. The place totally not recommend is in the right side and in the middle of the block. They have a screen saying massage for 8k and a tout or two always standing in front of the place.I actually used to frequent this place several years ago but then the owner was a different guy and they mostly had Taiwanese girls in there. Now they seem to have only girls from mainland China.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Homer69;1207675]Are you sure it's the west exit of JR Kamata? In my experience most of the esute shops are on the east side toward Keikyu Kamata. I never went to the west side because I wasn't sure if there were any shops on that side. I know of a Lawson on the west side just outside of the circle but I don't know of any on the east side. I use Keikyu so I go from the east side of Keikyu Kamata.[/QUOTE]Yeah, he's OldGeezer is right. There are some shops out that way. Been out there a couple times myself.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words; 1207691]I think you got your exits confused.I still don't get all the Chinese girls all standing no the main street on the left side of the east exit who seemingly want nothing to do with foreigners.[/QUOTE]You are correct, one should not drink and write. It is the east exit you need.Those girls are hunting customers for the clubs. Normally around 3k for 1h nomihoudai. Trust me you are not losing anything if they do not approach you.

Good. It makes better sense to be clustered on the east side between JR and Keikyu. I get it about the blue collar thing. That is pretty obvious if you spend any time in the area.

[QUOTE=OldGeezer; 1207967]You are correct, one should not drink and write. It is the east exit you need.

Those girls are hunting customers for the clubs. Normally around 3k for 1h nomihoudai. Trust me you are not losing anything if they do not approach you.[/QUOTE]

Disclaimer: I've forgotten her name but here's the lowdown on a good provider at Champs:August, Sunday morning 8AM when asked what type of provider I liked, I said (in Japanese)"Whoever has the best technique." I was given a lithe, little ex-dancer who said she lived in Chigasaki. Is married to a former strip club patron and has a kid. She's hot thin, and small; not anorexic.She gave an 9/10 BBBJ and let me finger her asshole to my heart's content. Really it looked like it got fucked on a regular basis.So for those of you who like anal play with the Champs / NYNY.type of older girls and the service that Champs and NYNY are so well reviewed about here, I heartily give a two thumbs up on this little spinner.PS Feel free to either PM the URL or post it here, and I'll do my best to ID her or perhaps a Champs' fans might know who I'm talking about. Peace

Is there an old-school type porno theater anywhere in Tokyo?

[QUOTE=Xslikx;1209018]Is there an old-school type porno theater anywhere in Tokyo?[/QUOTE]As far as I know, the answer is unfortunately "no". Some years back, DX in Kabukicho had, occasionnally, some couples f. On stage. But I have not seen this since years. In the Yokohama thread, they report a strip theater where BJ can be provided by some performers.

Anyway, I hope that I am wrong and that some guys living locally can contradict me!

Refreshing news the Osaka girl will periodically visit Tokyo. I tried overnight.

Pretty. She is one of the cutest at AM. She is from Osakaand come with the down to earth joyful attitude that goes with it. English is weak so it helps if you speak some Japanese.

Very nice face with nice smile, body, boob job probably. Shaved and nice down there. BBJ. 69 with some deep throat. You can feel the teeth at times but overall pleasurable CIM. Sex is very good.

Strong recommendation overall.

[QUOTE=Shirokyu; 1209200]Refreshing news the Osaka girl will periodically visit Tokyo. I tried overnight.

Pretty. She is one of the cutest at AM. She is from Osakaand come with the down to earth joyful attitude that goes with it. English is weak so it helps if you speak some Japanese.

Very nice face with nice smile, body, boob job probably. Shaved and nice down there. BBJ. 69 with some deep throat. You can feel the teeth at times but overall pleasurable CIM. Sex is very good.

Strong recommendation overall.[/QUOTE]Silly me (not sure how to edit previous post).

I finally decided to spend the cash on a 3 way, and hipness did no disappoint. I speak Japanese so I just phoned in to make an appointment, and it was incredibly smooth and easy. I showed up in Uguisudani checked into Crystal 2, and rang the shop to tell them where I was. After 10 minutes the girls showed up. I picked Risa and Rose because they seemed the most attractive from the pictures. Risa is indeed a very attractive girl with a nice body and smooth skin. Rose had a slightly better face, but her skin, especially around the stomach had stretch marks, and the rack was fake; I still felt she was good looking though. We first settled the financial end, and they even have you sign a contract with the terms of use etc. The final cost was 26, 000 yen for 80 minutes plus 8000 yen for the hotel. It would have just been 5000 for the hotel but I didn't notice the "extra 3000 yen for more than 2 people" clause. The lady at the front saw two girls headed my way and phoned me to say "that'll be an extra 3000 yen," which I agreed to because it was a bit late to change places anyways. Sure enough there was a sign downstairs stating the extra 3000 for an extra person which I didn't catch at first.

The two girls were excellent and the shower itself was a special experience. On the bed, the two girls always found some way to involve themselves in the action even if the positioning didn't lend itself to it. Risa seemed to be super energetic and if I wasn't in her or Rose, her mouth found it's way downstairs. The entire experience was amazing and the two girls were enthusiastic until the end. It was definitely worth the money and is something every man should try at least once. Now that's it's ticked off on my list I think I'll be doing one at a time from now on, because I got super worn out at the end of the day and I now know that I'm not quite man enough for two women haha.

[QUOTE=Xslikx;1209018]Is there an old-school type porno theater anywhere in Tokyo?[/QUOTE]Here are a few that I have passed by but never entered:UENO: Oukura Gekijo.[url]http://www.cinema-st.com/adalut/d003.html[/url] (Japanese review) [url]http://navitokyo.com/03-3831-0157/[/url] (map and phone number) IIDABASHI / KAGURAZAKA: Kurara Gekijo.[url]http://www.cinema-st.com/adalut/d004.html[/url] (Japanese review) [url]http://www.iidabashi.net/S22288.html[/url] (map and phone number) IKEBUKURO: Cineroman Gekijo.[url]http://cineroman.blog92.fc2.com/[/url] (Japanese site) [url]http://www.cinema-st.com/adalut/d001.html[/url] (Japanese review) SHINJUKU: Kokusai Gekijo.[url]http://tokyodeep.info/2009/06/09/153135.html[/url] (Japanese review) [url]http://dptj.net/entries/124.php[/url] (map and phone number)

[QUOTE=Jpn Dude;1209391]Here are a few that I have passed by but never entered[/QUOTE]Perfect! Thanks.

Back in town after a long hiatus.Went back to my old stomping grounds in Shibuya and have already hit Smile and 5A (Grimpeur) a bunch of times.Quality is still good for the price if you like young J-girls, more gal types now than before.FS is available at these places-here are my hits so far in the past three weeks:Smile.China.Mirei.Mei.Anon.Kitty.Shiho.5A.Aina.Ako.Chiharu.Miriya.Nagisa.Have at it fellas!

A quick report on the girls? Or recommendations? Grimpeur's are heavily blurred, can be a hit or miss.[QUOTE=Staceykane23; 1210145]Back in town after a long hiatus.Went back to my old stomping grounds in Shibuya and have already hit Smile and 5A (Grimpeur) a bunch of times.Quality is still good for the price if you like young J-girls, more gal types now than before.FS is available at these places-here are my hits so far in the past three weeks:Smile.China.Mirei.Mei.Anon.Kitty.Shiho.5A.Aina.Ako.Chiharu.Miriya.Nagisa.Have at it fellas![/QUOTE]

Just one stupid question, soaland uses condom right?

[QUOTE=Dude1979; 1210374]A quick report on the girls? Or recommendations? Grimpeur's are heavily blurred, can be a hit or miss.[/QUOTE]They're in order of my fave's from each shop. Like to say that I can give a full report, tho at this point after hitting so many, the reports might start to blur LOL.Definitely doable though.

[QUOTE=Sesena;1210505]Just one stupid question, soaland uses condom right?[/QUOTE]For FS yes, for BJ no.If they don't use, you can always ask for it, and you will surely get it.

Are you Japanese?

I went to Grimpeur on Thursday and was told that Nagisa does not see gaijin.

[QUOTE=Dude1979; 1210374]A quick report on the girls? Or recommendations?

Grimpeur's are heavily blurred, can be a hit or miss.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Staceykane23;1210145]Smile and 5A (Grimpeur)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the list. You seem to imply that all these girls were OK for FS. Was that the case, and was additional monetary encouragement directly to the girl necessary in any specific cases? Also what course did you opt for and what was the damage?

My experience with Grimpeur has been positive over the years, and I believe FS has always been available for me. But I am sure some girls don't provide it so I think many of us would like to be forewarned. The most recent girls I have had there were Asaka and Maya, both of whom seem to be gone.

Have never tried Smile but based on your experience would like to. It seems like Smile has the better pricing of the two, do you agree?

I would be particularly interested in a specific review of Ako, if you can recall the specific experience.

ES

I have never heard of Smile.

Would somebody please post the webpage?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner; 1211425]Thanks for the list. You seem to imply that all these girls were OK for FS. Was that the case, and was additional monetary encouragement directly to the girl necessary in any specific cases? Also what course did you opt for and what was the damage?

My experience with Grimpeur has been positive over the years, and I believe FS has always been available for me. But I am sure some girls don't provide it so I think many of us would like to be forewarned. The most recent girls I have had there were Asaka and Maya, both of whom seem to be gone.

Have never tried Smile but based on your experience would like to. It seems like Smile has the better pricing of the two, do you agree?

I would be particularly interested in a specific review of Ako, if you can recall the specific experience.

ES[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1211488]I have never heard of Smile.

Would somebody please post the webpage?

Thanks.[/QUOTE][url]http://sibuya-smile.com/index_top[/url]

ES

Thanks. I'd say the girls look better than Grimpeur.

What does the "utsushi me" option mean? That you can take photos? Or that you can record the session?

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner; 1211497][url]http://sibuya-smile.com/index_top[/url]

ES[/QUOTE]

A little while back someone recommended Hotel Wako as a decent love hotel in Shinjuku. Does anyone here know if they offer costume rentals? If not, does anyone know of any good, reasonably-priced love hotels in Shinjuku that do offer costume rentals? Any suggestions would be most appreciated. As always, I'll be happy to add my own reports afterwards.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1211503]Thanks. I'd say the girls look better than Grimpeur.

What does the "utsushi me" option mean? That you can take photos? Or that you can record the session?[/QUOTE]I don't see a "utsushi me" option, but I see a "me kakushi" option which means blindfolding the girl.

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner; 1211425]Thanks for the list. You seem to imply that all these girls were OK for FS. Was that the case, and was additional monetary encouragement directly to the girl necessary in any specific cases? Also what course did you opt for and what was the damage? My experience with Grimpeur has been positive over the years, and I believe FS has always been available for me. But I am sure some girls don't provide it so I think many of us would like to be forewarned. The most recent girls I have had there were Asaka and Maya, both of whom seem to be gone.Have never tried Smile but based on your experience would like to. It seems like Smile has the better pricing of the two, do you agree? I would be particularly interested in a specific review of Ako, if you can recall the specific experience.ES[/QUOTE]I'm curious about this Smile too. What is the requried level of nihongo? I'd appreciate any review of the girls! From my experience with Grimpeur, it's been more miss than hit. The girls change too often for me to repeat, in hope of better service the second time, so I kinda given up on grimpeur, as it's too pricey for a miss. If anybody has figured out a system, please share. To me, delicious deli is better prices, with decent and stable lineup, FS always there for extra 5000, not to mention english speaking operator.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1211503]Thanks. I'd say the girls look better than Grimpeur.

What does the "utsushi me" option mean? That you can take photos? Or that you can record the session?[/QUOTE]It's actually Sha me and it's short for "shashin mail," which basically means taking a photograph with your mobile phone.

OK, thanks.

[QUOTE=Hot Bot;1212204]It's actually Sha me and it's short for "shashin mail," which basically means taking a photograph with your mobile phone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dude1979;1212093]From my experience with Grimpeur, it's been more miss than hit. The girls change too often for me to repeat, in hope of better service the second time, so I kinda given up on grimpeur, as it's too pricey for a miss. If anybody has figured out a system, please share. To me, delicious deli is better prices, with decent and stable lineup, FS always there for extra 5000, not to mention english speaking operator.[/QUOTE]I've tried a few hotel health places in Shibuya, Grimpeur. Milk and a couple of others and I've struck out each time. The girls were attractive and initial interaction was good but they've been boring, unprofessional and just lay on the bed. I'm sure most had smoked a cigarette on the way to the hotel and were also smelly "down there". In the shower they washed the bits that didn't need washing and not the bits that did need washing.

On the other hand I've done well at places that have in house service, normal health type places and Korean esute.

Has anyone been to Sports Pafe in uguisuidani? The lure of this for me is the concept. Girls will wear swimsuits or whatever sports wear you want. But not sure what they do.Last time I emailed them though they said they don't serve gaijin.

Has anyone tried Sports Pafe in uguisuidani? The main draw of this is the sports fetish. Girls will wear 1 pc swimsuits or sportswear you want for sessions. But not sure what they allow.Although last time I emailed them they said they don't entertain gaijin. Has anyone used them?

[QUOTE=Japanguy; 1212536]I've tried a few hotel health places in Shibuya, Grimpeur. Milk and a couple of others and I've struck out each time. The girls were attractive and initial interaction was good but they've been boring, unprofessional and just lay on the bed. I'm sure most had smoked a cigarette on the way to the hotel and were also smelly "down there". In the shower they washed the bits that didn't need washing and not the bits that did need washing.

On the other hand I've done well at places that have in house service, normal health type places and Korean esute.[/QUOTE]Can you tell us which 'in-house service' places you have tried-particularly in the Shibuya / Shinjuku / Gotanda areas? The only one I occasionally use is HeiseiJogakuen, which is OK, but the gals (at least the ones who will entertain gaijin) are definitely not stunners.

Manta Ray

Hi guys,Here's my second half of my trip to asia. Spent 2 days in phillipines and one nite in shinjuku japan. Didn't have a good time there. Not a place for a foreigner. I'm japanse american that can't speak japanese so I cruised shinjuku area with all the signs of girls and I tried a strip club. Heheheh it cost 5000 yen and was full of men 50's & 60's trying to watch these girls perform some choreographed danced they just learned and a few were not gracefull at all. Then after they dance then you take a pic of them for 500 yen. The women ranged from late 20's to late 30's. Lots of hustler await in the streets asking if you want sex BJ etc. I got hustled this guys ask if I wanted soapland style massage and thats what I was their for. And then he takes me to another guy who has pics of girls to chose from. Then after I make my choice then he ask for 30000 yen and then takes me to another guy who takes me to place where I pay another 12000 for a room but I got hustled into a little ghetto brothel where the room is literally 5ftx8ft with a cot and a cabinet. Thats when I knew I got hustled the girl only gave quick BJ till got hard then jacked me with lotion till I came. Then took a quick shower and left. I had the walk of shame moment leaving trying to get to hotel. All the other hustlers trying to get me to to try their girls. Couldn't get out of there fast enough. Needless to say I won't be going to japan anytime soon. Especialy with 1 USD to 73yen. Just a heads up guys don't pay for nothing in advanced. I learned my lesson.Thanks,Sumodog

[QUOTE=Japanguy; 1212536]I've tried a few hotel health places in Shibuya, Grimpeur. Milk and a couple of others and I've struck out each time. The girls were attractive and initial interaction was good but they've been boring, unprofessional and just lay on the bed. I'm sure most had smoked a cigarette on the way to the hotel and were also smelly "down there". In the shower they washed the bits that didn't need washing and not the bits that did need washing.On the other hand I've done well at places that have in house service, normal health type places and Korean esute.[/QUOTE]Agree on the above with Grimpeur, I gave up a while ago, turnover is massive there few girls stay long so if your lucky and find a decent one, she will probably be gone soon. And I've found it very hit and miss looks wise and those that do, want extra money. Better to go to one of the established gaijin run places, where you can interact with the girls, and guaranteed action. Yeah strange I've found same, so many have personal hygiene issues, and heard a bad story about someone, who picked up something unpleasant from there, after Tsumata I'm told. Can't vouch for Milk or Smile, haven't been.

basically this list are all hits for fs.i didn't pay any of them, though i have had people tell me some have asked for 1man before. i usually try to get them in the mood first before proposing to put it in.usually i take the 1 hour course, though have also done 45 minute before if i am short on time. i couldn't tell you which time and when, but usually theres more time to get in the mood in 60 minutes so i like that.smile is cheaper price wise, though i find the service in general to be less giving. more gals too which i'm not particularly fond of. if you can see my list i chose more of the big boobed type girls in general which is more my speed.ako was great. her face is not as good as proposed. even the vip site where you can see the face looks good, but a 7. 5 in real life. service before fs was just ok. boobs are nice though.and i did choose these girls based on intel gathered from before my trip to ensure i got bank for my buck.[quote=evan stoner; 1211425]thanks for the list. you seem to imply that all these girls were ok for fs. was that the case, and was additional monetary encouragement directly to the girl necessary in any specific cases? also what course did you opt for and what was the damage? my experience with grimpeur has been positive over the years, and i believe fs has always been available for me. but i am sure some girls don't provide it so i think many of us would like to be forewarned. the most recent girls i have had there were asaka and maya, both of whom seem to be gone.have never tried smile but based on your experience would like to. it seems like smile has the better pricing of the two, do you agree? i would be particularly interested in a specific review of ako, if you can recall the specific experience.es[/quote]

After arriving in Japan last week and having some drinks with some friends, I decided to hit up my favorite pink salon, Sekai ni Hitotsu Dake no Hana in Gotanda.[url]http://www.gotanda-sekai.com/main.php[/url]I'll first answer the burning question on everyones' mind: are they gaijin friendly? After visiting several times now, I'd have to say only marginally. What I mean is if you look Japanese and at least know enough Japanese to answer the handful of questions the doorman will ask you, then you can get in. I say this because I know just enough Japanese to barely get past those questions, and it's pretty obvious I'm not a native if I have to say much more than "hai" or "iie" since I clearly don't have a perfect Japanese accent.I'm almost 100% certain that if a "foreign" looking person approached (white, black, whatever) , you'll get stopped at the door by the bouncer. However, I have yet to get a gaijin guinea pig to test out my postulate.The questions aren't hard, but again my Japanese is not that great. Standard questions you will be asked:"Which girl would you like to pick?""Have you been with her before?""Do you need to use the restroom?""What would you like to drink?"Round 1:So I went in last week. The bouncer at the front let me in the door without question, where I was greeted by the front desk guy who asked me the usual barrage of questions. Inside there's a huge wall of headshots of all the girls that you can choose from; the ones who are available that evening will have a ribbon pinned to her photo. I chose number 32 Chigasaki. Since it was after 6pm, the cost was 7500 yen for 35 minutes of play time, plus another 2000 yen for choosing the girl (which is waived if you let the shop choose for you). I had my 1000 yen off members card from my last visit, so total damage was 8500 yen.Not cheap compared to some other places, but considering all the girls are 18-22 year old cuties in sailor school uniforms, it's a price I'm willing to pay.After choosing the girl and paying, the front desk guy will ask if you need to use the bathroom, then spray your hands with disinfectant before telling you to head downstairs, where another dude will lead you to a booth. The booth is your usual pink salon fare, but this place is exceptionally clean and spotless, with no harsh smell of smoke or bodily fluids to assault the nostrils. The booth guy will ask what you would like to drink. I usually just ask for tea, since it's free. There's of course a hanger for you to put your coat up.After getting my tea and waiting a couple of minutes, Chigasaki arrives. Maybe it was lighting, but I thought she was a real cutie. Typical slender J girl body, average J girl boobs (but 100% natural) , but really cute face. I'd rate her an 8. She has dark brown hair now (not the horrible blonde from the website photos). She gives me a towel to wipe off my hands before beginning. Like any pink salon, you can pretty much do anything you want short of actual penetration, with your mileage varying depending on what the girl will allow. If the girl seems uncomfortable with something I'm doing, then I stop. As always, never ever push a girl into doing something she's not comfortable with.So of course we begin DFK, for awhile, and she lets me play with her boobs and pussy, including eating her out. She took a sip of my tea at one point and then frenched me and transferred the tea to me. A nice touch, IMO. Anyway, eventually, she got my pants off, wiped my junk down, and started a BBBJ on me. She was actually a little taken aback at how much there was when I finally came, which always pleases me.After cleaning up, we cuddled and chatted a bit. She's a college girl and speaks some English, it turns out. She had no problems with me being a foreigner. At the end of every play session, the girl will give you a members card good for 1000 yen off your next visit, along with a little note from her. Nothing special, just the usual stuff like "Thanks for coming today! I hope you had a great time! Blah blah." Chigasaki wrote hers entirely in English; a nice little touch.Round 2:Since I had a few hours to kill last night, I decided to hit up this place again. There was a different front desk guy this time (he looked like a young Junichiro Koizumi) , and he seemed a bit cagey about letting a foreigner in, though he didn't expressly forbid me entry or tell me to leave. Deciding to err on the side of caution, I chose Chigasaki again and said we've met before. That seemed to satisfy him and he beckoned me down the stairs.So everything played out similar to the previous time I went, except that Chigasaki clearly remembered me (which surprised me, since I'm sure these girls go through many guys a day). Since I was a repeat client, she seemed even more into her work than last time. While fellating me, she pushed me on my back and starting rimming me good and hard while jerking me off. I've never had a rimjob before, but I have to say it was quite enjoyable, more than I expected. And when I left, she frenched me again, but this time she also slipped me some candy that way.I don't know if I will get around to visiting a third time before I leave Tokyo, but I definitely want to!

[QUOTE=SumoDog; 1212905]Hi guys,

Here's my second half of my trip to asia. Spent 2 days in phillipines and one nite in shinjuku japan. Didn't have a good time there. Not a place for a foreigner. I'm japanse american that can't speak japanese so I cruised shinjuku area with all the signs of girls and I tried a strip club. Heheheh it cost 5000 yen and was full of men 50's & 60's trying to watch these girls perform some choreographed danced they just learned and a few were not gracefull at all. Then after they dance then you take a pic of them for 500 yen. The women ranged from late 20's to late 30's. Lots of hustler await in the streets asking if you want sex BJ etc. I got hustled this guys ask if I wanted soapland style massage and thats what I was their for. And then he takes me to another guy who has pics of girls to chose from. Then after I make my choice then he ask for 30000 yen and then takes me to another guy who takes me to place where I pay another 12000 for a room but I got hustled into a little ghetto brothel where the room is literally 5ftx8ft with a cot and a cabinet. Thats when I knew I got hustled the girl only gave quick BJ till got hard then jacked me with lotion till I came. Then took a quick shower and left. I had the walk of shame moment leaving trying to get to hotel. All the other hustlers trying to get me to to try their girls. Couldn't get out of there fast enough. Needless to say I won't be going to japan anytime soon. Especialy with 1 USD to 73yen. Just a heads up guys don't pay for nothing in advanced. I learned my lesson.

Thanks,

Sumodog[/QUOTE]Seems that you did not do your home job (reading ISG) before venturing out. What happened to you in Tokyo could have happned similarly in Lndon (soho) , Paris (Pigalle) etc.

Just RTFF and see what you missed (Hinomaru, Sugamo, Yoshiwara etc.) all nice places which deliver good services to non Japanese people for less that what you paid.

[QUOTE=Manta Ray;1212763]Can you tell us which 'in-house service' places you have tried-particularly in the Shibuya / Shinjuku / Gotanda areas? The only one I occasionally use is HeiseiJogakuen, which is OK, but the gals (at least the ones who will entertain gaijin) are definitely not stunners.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I wish I did but unfortunately I don't really have much to add, I used to go to UCLA and Heisei in Ikebukuro and random places that have disappeared over the years; more recently it's been Asian Feeling and esutes mentioned here.

[QUOTE=Japanguy;1213398]Sorry, I wish I did but unfortunately I don't really have much to add, I used to go to UCLA and Heisei in Ikebukuro and random places that have disappeared over the years; more recently it's been Asian Feeling and esutes mentioned here.[/QUOTE]Used to use UCLA myself. Had some great times there.

All.

Thanks for all the recent information on Grimpeur and Smile. I've been to those two places a bit in the past few weeks, so thought I would try to contribute as best as I can.

In terms of overall experience and quality of the girls, I think they are about the same. As you can tell by the photos, Smile focuses a bit more Shibuya gyaru types, which I love, hence my screen name. The guys in the shops are very friendly and helpful towards foriegners, but you will have to speak at least a little bit of Japanese in order to setup the appointment, call from the hotel to tell them the room number, etc.

To be honest, I haven't been blown away by the appearance of the girls. All the girls I've had have been maybe 6 or 7/10. The photos at both shops are mis-leading. Every time, the girl who showed up looked very different than the girl in the photos. The stats that they post about the girls, such as age and measurement, are also inaccurate. I asked one girl "nan sai desu ka" and she had to think for a few seconds before answering, to make sure that she said the same thing that had been posted about her.

FS every time. A lot has been written on this board about whether or not you can expect FS at Grimpeur. I think that the answer is "yes", but you have to go about it the right way. If you just come out and ask "ecchi ha daijoubu desu ka", then I think the girls might say no. If you just kind of start doing it through the natural course of things, then you will have better luck.

At both places, it is best to go in with an open mind of which girl you are going to see. If you go to either shop determined to see a particular individual girl, then you will probably be disappointed. When you go to the shop, it could turn out that the girl you want to see is already booked for the entire day, just didn't show up to work that day, doesn't like gaijin, or any other reason. At Grimpeur at least, there are some girls who don't like gaijin.

If you are new to Japan, or don't speak Japanese, then going to hotel health for the first time can be intimidating. If you are finding this situation to be difficult and just want a pretty young Japanese girl, then I think Ai from AM is still your best bet. Although she is not quite so young anymore :' (

I hope this helps. Please reply on the board if you want to know anything else.

Following LoveShibuyaGirls.Mako from AM is quite young looking and one of the better looking provider I ever had. I booked her a few times in the past. She is very skinny though with no meat at all. If you dislike slim girls then I would suggest to avoid her. I think she would be around 50kgs maybe around 160cm tall.Let me tell you about my standard. I live in Melbourne but I have been living overseas for awhile. I don't post on Melbourne thread on this forum but I frequented a famous korean joint there. I had stunning korean girls who looked like models who you find in can can magazine (Japanese fashion mag you can easily found in any convini). I would rate those girl a 9. Mako is around 7. 5, slim with enhanced see cup breast. For me she is very GFE oriented, her description on AM page is pretty accurate.Booking is very easy, the operator speaks English. I suspect it might be one of the girls themselves. Never had a problem, just once she was a bit late for 5 minutes.

I'm checking out Raku in Gotanda tomorrow.Any brother mongers on the board have recommendations for the gals there? I was thinking Mie.I'll post a report when I'm done.

I will be in Tokyo the week of 25th to Dec 2nd. As this will be my first visit to Tokyo, I am looking to fulfill my Japanese girl fantasy. I have researched the Tokyo thread extensively and the internet as well, but am thoroughtly confused now with estute, helath, delivery options, etc. I would appreciate help from experienced mongers. At the moment, I have only zeroed in on Asian Mystique, but the women don't seem very attractive.

I am looking for full service with either a cute young Japanese girl and / or older Japanese housewife. Either in call or out call is ok. Dress up in a school girl outfit or Kimono is a plus. Cleanliness and hygiene down there are of prime importance. I am prepared to pay the going market rate.

Any advice / guidance from experienced mongers in Tokyo is appreciated. Can return the favor with advice / guided tour of Abu Dhabi or Dubai.

[QUOTE=Lazy Summer; 1215749]I will be in Tokyo the week of 25th to Dec 2nd. As this will be my first visit to Tokyo, I am looking to fulfill my Japanese girl fantasy. I have researched the Tokyo thread extensively and the internet as well, but am thoroughtly confused now with estute, helath, delivery options, etc. I would appreciate help from experienced mongers. At the moment, I have only zeroed in on Asian Mystique, but the women don't seem very attractive.I am looking for full service with either a cute young Japanese girl and / or older Japanese housewife. Either in call or out call is ok. Dress up in a school girl outfit or Kimono is a plus. Cleanliness and hygiene down there are of prime importance. I am prepared to pay the going market rate.Any advice / guidance from experienced mongers in Tokyo is appreciated. Can return the favor with advice / guided tour of Abu Dhabi or Dubai.[/QUOTE]Esutes and fashion / delivery healths are very hit and miss for FS if you're after Japanese girls. I never used AM but they seem to be the only ones that kind of have guaranteed FS in that line of shops. I think the best option for what you're looking for, if you don't mind unloading a bundle of money, is a premium soapland in Yoshiwara. There are very attractive Japanese women, young or older, the service is excellent, it's a bath house technically so all the girls are as clean as humanly possible, and there's guaranteed FS. The only hitch is that only a few shops allow foreigners and they're quite expensive. They will also charge a foreigner tax on top of their usual fee. I hope this is helpful.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1215769]Esutes and fashion / delivery healths are very hit and miss for FS if you're after Japanese girls. I never used AM but they seem to be the only ones that kind of have guaranteed FS in that line of shops. I think the best option for what you're looking for, if you don't mind unloading a bundle of money, is a premium soapland in Yoshiwara. There are very attractive Japanese women, young or older, the service is excellent, it's a bath house technically so all the girls are as clean as humanly possible, and there's guaranteed FS. The only hitch is that only a few shops allow foreigners and they're quite expensive. They will also charge a foreigner tax on top of their usual fee. I hope this is helpful.[/QUOTE]Yoshiwara soapland, Fantasy club, around 28000 yens. Your best bet, with AM. Read back, and / or search Yoshiwara, lots of relatively recent reports.

Has anybody been to the recently re-opened Fantasy? They were closed October and re-opened just this November. They have raised their level and are now billed as a medium level soapland. In other words they have raised their prices. The same thing happened with Kings Club which has been reported that they aren't accepting foreigners anymore. I'd be interested to hear anyone who has been successful in entering the new Fantasy. Here is their new website.

[url]http://www.soap-fantasy.com/system.html[/url]

Besides uguisu which is for deli, which stations / places are best for korean esute (FS) in tokyo? Basically I'm looking for high quality / low cost, native kgirls, short time is ok.One where you can choose by pic is better.Not interested in Chinese girls so don't need info on Chinese este.

[QUOTE=OldGeezer;1206096]Have been back on the pay scene for some months now and settled to my normal schedule. Usually all is good, you get your misses but you get your hits too.[/QUOTE]This is replying to your subject "Customer is not always God". Just a friendly observation from a lot of personal experience. If the shop is Chinese owned, you are never God! If the shop is Japanese owned and legal or quasi-legal (I. E. Not enforced), you are generally speaking always God. Huge black and white difference. Legitimate Japanese businesses (pink salons, strip/play clubs, etc..) care about their reputation, and the best ones have been around for a long time. The one I use has been around 12 years and literally has a line of people the minute it opens. That's always a good sign in Japan be it ramen or blowjobs.Being God doesn't mean they let you bend the rules or give you a discount. It means that your satisfaction is irrationally (that is, anywhere outside of Japan) important to them. The reason why Japanese shops ask some customers how their experience was (typical if a girl just started work) is most will promptly fire a girl if she isn't getting good reviews because there are plenty to replace her.The reason I mention this is I speak enough Chinese, English, and Japanese to have dealt with a lot of shops and their employees - and I wish to save other people a lot of time and pain. The only reason people would ever want to try a Chinese place is that they've carved out a niche (I. E a monopoly) in several services, a few of which (but not most) are legitimately worthwhile to some people. For example (IMHO) , handjobs in random countryside cities that don't have pink parlors. Yep, I'm talking about quality countryside handjobs for a reasonable price and no hassle. Quite a niche, but important to know in a pinch. That said, randomly entering a Chinese establishment without being able to discern the few good from the many bad is not a good idea.I'm not trying to bash all Chinese places, just saying that your hit rate is low and that Chinese places are all about making money regardless of customer satisfaction.On a side note, if anyone here is from the Osaka boards they might remember the epic Hadaka no Ousama salon. The name means "Naked King" aka "Emperor without Clothes" and they really treated you like a king. Every girl there gave awesome service, and for around 10000 you could get harem service from 2 to 4 of them at a time (must call ahead). Fingering, bbbj, everything but fucking with plenty of time. And every time at the end of the session, sure enough the cashier would bow and humbly ask the king if everything was to his liking. Then they give you a stamp card for a future discount, plus a schedule for the girl you tried.

[QUOTE=Traveler X; 1216760]I'm not trying to bash all Chinese places, just saying that your hit rate is low and that Chinese places are all about making money regardless of customer satisfaction.

On a side note, if anyone here is from the Osaka boards they might remember the epic Hadaka no Ousama salon.[/QUOTE]Now THAT brings back memories. Hadaka was the best place I've been to in Japan, no doubt.

That said, I have been to Chinese places with top level service. And also had the worst service possible by Chinese masaji girls. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Traveler X;1216760]If the shop is Chinese owned, you are never God![/QUOTE]You are preaching to the converted. What threw me off on the case discussed earlier was that that particular shop used to be owned by Japanese and even employ only Japanese girls.The touts were still Japanese, but the girls and owners are now Chinese. I agree on your evaluation so much that I also never visit new Chinese places anymore.Then again one of the places which I frequent way too often is a massage parlor where both the mama-san and "my girl" are Chinese and things could not be sweeter. But then they both have been in here a long time, speak perfect Japanese and have adopted the best business practices possible.

Dear forum members, I'm going to Tokyo on a short notice in a couple of days to meet my girlfriend who is visiting there.She is asian but not japanese and has spent only 2 weeks there. It will be my first time.We had a number of experience together with wg when visiting Thailand, and japanese porn with girls massaging girls is definitely a turn-on for us.I've reaserched the forum for places who could give service to my gf but I really don't have a clue about nothing there.Could senior members advice on places where we could find girls (preferably in there 30's, busty would be a plus!) who could provide a good soapy or nuru massage to a girl? It will be a one time experience so price is not the main issue. A good escort agency to call this type of girl to our hotel would also be an option.Thanks in advance for your reply and sorry, I don't have enough time to make a thorough research of the forum.I'll be there is someone need tips about Bangkok! Best, K.

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[QUOTE=Member #3439; 1152940][url]Http://www.milkybaby.jp/[/url]They will never get any bigger than at this place![/QUOTE]Are foreigners welcomed?

Don't know if the gaijin friendly yet but.Pururungang. Com.Some of these girl are just stack!

[QUOTE=Inmars4;1218350]Are foreigners welcomed?[/QUOTE]Yes, very welcome.

From my experience Milkey Baby is foreigner friendly. Also from my experience; don't get your hopes up because the first two pages of girls are probably available, but the remaining pages are just space fillers to make the selection look large.

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden;1218576]From my experience Milkey Baby is foreigner friendly. Also from my experience; don't get your hopes up because the first two pages of girls are probably available, but the remaining pages are just space fillers to make the selection look large.[/QUOTE]It's worth checking the 'diary' on the web site to see who is scheduled to work. As that will give you a good idea of the number of girls actually working.

Wow, fisting a girl who is lactating? There are so many niches in Japan. It seems to me that if you insist on your girl being pregnant and / or lactating, then you have to compromise on a lot of other things, though.

So is Ikebukuro the center of the busty girl deriheru industry in Tokyo? Like how Uguisuidani is the center of the Korean deriheru industry?

[QUOTE=Backtobasics;1218633]It's worth checking the 'diary' on the web site to see who is scheduled to work. As that will give you a good idea of the number of girls actually working.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Backtobasics;1218476]Yes, very welcome.[/QUOTE]That what I'm tlkn about.Osu!

[QUOTE=Shatneresque; 1153274]The place for big boobs is Cutie Bomb. You will need Japanese ability though.[url]www.1919ikebukuro.com[/url][/QUOTE]Meant was this place gaijin friendly.

[QUOTE=Dude1979; 1210374]A quick report on the girls? Or recommendations?

Grimpeur's are heavily blurred, can be a hit or miss.[/QUOTE]Aina is GFE and provdes great service. She is kind of pretty, but her figure though busty is, on the whole, average. She has a great attitude and is rather willing to accommodate requests or any special needs esepcially after one or two sessions with her.

Hi there.Plan to come to tokyo in spring. Looking for gaijin to show around. Plan to stay for a month. About myself. White. 25yo. Would really appreciate your help cause tokyo looks so complicated.[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue][u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove email addresses in the text[/u]. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Davide73; 1150136]Hello, guys,

Has anyone met her?

Is she a GFE?

I need review please![/QUOTE]Cute, tanned toned. She is an ok experience. She likes money and presents.

So given that all of the soaplands that were listed on the forum as gaijin friendly have closed, reinvented themselves, or are under new management; has anyone been to one recently?

[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden;1218576]From my experience Milkey Baby is foreigner friendly. Also from my experience; don't get your hopes up because the first two pages of girls are probably available, but the remaining pages are just space fillers to make the selection look large.[/QUOTE]Avoid this as they are a rip off as Ralph said just space fillers. Waste of time and money. Also not recommeneded for new comers in tokyo as they go on references.

Hi.Did anyone try the erotic massage or sexual rejuvination massage in japan? They say they can provide a girl in tokyo.Feedback is appreciated.Cheers,Shane

Has anyone tried the sm-tokyo. Com delivery sm / health service? They seem to have shops all over the Tokyo and even Yokohama area. Any info would be appreciated.Many thanks.

Just curious if anyone has tried the services of the Chinese girls who stand on the street in Shibuya in front of the UNIQLO on the way to Grimpeur, etc. They all say massage and BJ or sex, but I assume if you talk to one of them, it won't be them that actually services you, but instead they'll just take to you to their shop with old ladies who want to charge way too much for crappy service. But maybe I'm wrong. I went there today and there were no less than 10 Chinese girls calling out to me. Has anyone tried them?

[QUOTE=Lost For Words;1222277]Just curious if anyone has tried the services of the Chinese girls who stand on the street in Shibuya in front of the UNIQLO on the way to Grimpeur, etc. They all say massage and BJ or sex, but I assume if you talk to one of them, it won't be them that actually services you, but instead they'll just take to you to their shop with old ladies who want to charge way too much for crappy service. But maybe I'm wrong. I went there today and there were no less than 10 Chinese girls calling out to me. Has anyone tried them?[/QUOTE]I was pretty drunk one time a couple years ago and tried it out. Sometimes the women are Korean sometimes Chinese (the latter does seem more common lately). Anyhow, you're correct as the woman just pushes you into the door where the guy will guide you to the room. If you like the gal from the street, try requesting her. No idea if that works. Anyhow, in my case it was a fairly lame HJ in a very cramped room, more like a closet. The girl was reasonably young. The gals were advertising 10, 000 for FS the other night out there on the street, but I suspect some upsell would be happening. No interest in repeating on my part. I like the Chinese ladies for massage but not for FS.

The Tanuki

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1222373]I was pretty drunk one time a couple years ago and tried it out. The gals were advertising 10, 000 for FS the other night out there on the street, but I suspect some upsell would be happening. No interest in repeating on my part. I like the Chinese ladies for massage but not for FS.The Tanuki[/QUOTE]Same situation here :P. I was drunk as hell, but bargained hard, as far as I can remember, but got FS for 10k (and I'm pretty sure about the 10k). This was a couple of years ago, when Dougenzaka touts were not aggressively approaching gaijins on the main street. Was taken to a massage parlor in an apartment building far from main street. Girl said she was Taiwanese. It was pretty late though. Like 4-5AM.

[QUOTE=Lost For Words;1222277]Just curious if anyone has tried the services of the Chinese girls who stand on the street in Shibuya in front of the UNIQLO on the way to Grimpeur, etc. They all say massage and BJ or sex, but I assume if you talk to one of them, it won't be them that actually services you, but instead they'll just take to you to their shop with old ladies who want to charge way too much for crappy service. But maybe I'm wrong. I went there today and there were no less than 10 Chinese girls calling out to me. Has anyone tried them?[/QUOTE]One time at about 6 in the morning I was going home after clubbing all night. One of those Chinese girls who was actually pretty hot approached me and begged me to come with her. I told her I was too tired and I was going home, but that she was a hottie and if I was up for it, I would choose her. She took my arm as I headed back to the station and kept begging me to take her somewhere and do her. Eventually, she said I could fuck her for ?5, 000, so I went for it. We went back up the hill and into a little apartment they have. I had a quick shower and we had a good time. She was super GFE and was up for whatever I wanted.

All.

Since Saranes shut down, has anybody found another good cheap Korean incall place? Something like Saranes, where you can get one hour incall for 10, 000 JPY?

Older ladies are OK with me. Korean only. Not Chinese.

Thanks.

All.

I was reading a thread on another website (for foreigners living in Tokyo, not a sex related site) , and there was some discussion about how there were lots of hookers at the Oak Door, at the Grand Hyatt in Roppongi.

Is this true? I've been there a few times and do not think I saw any hookers. Lots of mid-upper thirties gaijin hunters, but no hookers.

If you've met any pros there, please share your experience and tell us how to identify them (or how to get them to identify you).

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1222714]All.

I was reading a thread on another website (for foreigners living in Tokyo, not a sex related site) , and there was some discussion about how there were lots of hookers at the Oak Door, at the Grand Hyatt in Roppongi.

Is this true? I've been there a few times and do not think I saw any hookers. Lots of mid-upper thirties gaijin hunters, but no hookers.

If you've met any pros there, please share your experience and tell us how to identify them (or how to get them to identify you).[/QUOTE]Hard to say on something like that. It could be rookie expats who are sometimes fairly prudish and like to call women hookers if they wear short skirts, etc. If that was the only qualification, most every woman in Japan would be a hooker!

A thought for the morning.

TT

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1222714]All.

Lots of mid-upper thirties gaijin hunters, [/QUOTE]Does that mean they are up for grabs? .

[QUOTE=Backtobasics;1222843]Does that mean they are up for grabs? .[/QUOTE]Yes. They are mainly foreign girls there. After a while, you should be able to tell who is a pro, and if you discretely talk about leaving with them, you'll get a price. Based on my experience, it was not worth it. Actually, it was more of hustle than anything else, because it was the most expensive pussy I ever had. Basically, these are chicks that are looking for rich guys to support them.

I would assume so.

[QUOTE=Backtobasics;1222843]Does that mean they are up for grabs? .[/QUOTE]

Called today-quick answer "Japanese only."

All.

A recent innovation at KDH places is the "hanabiri" course.

For example, they have it at sinjin: [url]http://www.sinjindh.com/system.html[/url]

Am I reading the Japanese correct? Basically, it is a two hour course, but you change girls at 60 minutes?

If so, then I do not understand the logic of the pricing. It is the same cost as the two hour course with one person. Shouldn't it cost more to be with two different girls?

Oh, so the Russian chicks I see hanging out there are hookers? I should have been able to figure that out for myself. I will pass on the Russians.

[QUOTE=Ben Linus;1222846]Yes. They are mainly foreign girls there. After a while, you should be able to tell who is a pro, and if you discretely talk about leaving with them, you'll get a price. Based on my experience, it was not worth it. Actually, it was more of hustle than anything else, because it was the most expensive pussy I ever had. Basically, these are chicks that are looking for rich guys to support them.[/QUOTE]

Thanks to the posting forum for great information. After hours of study, my business trip came and went. I booked air travel in / out of Tokyo even though business elsewhere-used trains to get around rather than being tied to domestic air travel schedule. This gave me a full day on the way in and out for play. From the forum, the interesting possibilities were soaplands, delivery health, and pink salon. Given the complexities of the size of Tokyo, subways, and signage, and my lack of Japanese skills, I was not so interested in wandering the town. Although love hotels sounded great, my company put me up in such nice hotels it would be a shame not to use them as home base.

So my successes and strong recommendations for my situation ended up being studying the erolin. Net site. Note that they have a lot of information, but really only referral links to Delivery Health and there is a specific link site for "No Japanese Required." I started with Delicious and received a very nice Korean girl with decent English-great service. On return trip, I sampled a nice Japanese girl from Deri-madonna. As it was my last night before returning, I visited two more Japanese girls from Delicious-outstanding all around and great to enjoy my 5 star hotel. Pm if you need details. How did I arrange the visits? Used Skype and called direct-both groups had decent English skills and girls arrived in 30 min. Of note-most of these services only operate 7PM until around 5:30 am, so if looking for a morning or early afternoon treat-could not find help.

I also read about Hipness, or Venous-airline. Jp. While their site says they are clearly gaijin friendly, they just have no English skills-even failed with email contact.

I called the new Fantasy and Kings-club soaplands-phone person said Japanese Only.

I also read up on Asian Mystique and Tokyo kisses (the former AM girl). Looked pricier and questionable reviews on the forum-however they are English friendly.

Sounds like there are many other opportunities for mongering if willing to roam the town a bit and explore, but Tokyo not so easy without Japanese skills, or a lot of time for navigation.

So I had a great visit-thanks for the posting help.

Hey Marwar was the Korean delicious deli girl Ai? She's so sweet and has a nice body! Also who were the Japanese girls you had from delicious? I'm kinda dating one of them and curious if you banged my girl LOL

[QUOTE=Marwar58; 1223283]Thanks to the posting forum for great information. After hours of study, my business trip came and went. I booked air travel in / out of Tokyo even though business elsewhere-used trains to get around rather than being tied to domestic air travel schedule. This gave me a full day on the way in and out for play. From the forum, the interesting possibilities were soaplands, delivery health, and pink salon. Given the complexities of the size of Tokyo, subways, and signage, and my lack of Japanese skills, I was not so interested in wandering the town. Although love hotels sounded great, my company put me up in such nice hotels it would be a shame not to use them as home base.

So my successes and strong recommendations for my situation ended up being studying the erolin. Net site. Note that they have a lot of information, but really only referral links to Delivery Health and there is a specific link site for "No Japanese Required." I started with Delicious and received a very nice Korean girl with decent English-great service. On return trip, I sampled a nice Japanese girl from Deri-madonna. As it was my last night before returning, I visited two more Japanese girls from Delicious-outstanding all around and great to enjoy my 5 star hotel. Pm if you need details. How did I arrange the visits? Used Skype and called direct-both groups had decent English skills and girls arrived in 30 min. Of note-most of these services only operate 7PM until around 5:30 am, so if looking for a morning or early afternoon treat-could not find help.

I also read about Hipness, or Venous-airline. Jp. While their site says they are clearly gaijin friendly, they just have no English skills-even failed with email contact.

I called the new Fantasy and Kings-club soaplands-phone person said Japanese Only.

I also read up on Asian Mystique and Tokyo kisses (the former AM girl). Looked pricier and questionable reviews on the forum-however they are English friendly.

Sounds like there are many other opportunities for mongering if willing to roam the town a bit and explore, but Tokyo not so easy without Japanese skills, or a lot of time for navigation.

So I had a great visit-thanks for the posting help.[/QUOTE]Marwar, Thanks for the good report. You like me don't have time to hunt on your own sometimes so it is nice to know where to go to get the most of your time. Trust me, you came off cheaper in the long run if you would have tried to pick up some "free" actions. Question, do you have the link for the Tokyo kisses? Haven't seen that one posted yet.

[QUOTE=Marwar58;1223283]I also read about Hipness, or Venous-airline. Jp. While their site says they are clearly gaijin friendly, they just have no English skills-even failed with email contact.[/QUOTE]They do have English skills but it's hit and miss. I've emailed them in Japanese and got quick replies; I've phoned them several times and had to deal with them in Japanese but the most recent time I was handed over to a native English speaker.

[QUOTE=Drbombay;1223532]Question, do you have the link for the Tokyo kisses? Haven't seen that one posted yet.[/QUOTE]I think he means Tokyo Melty Kiss (Manami) [url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url]

She is well known on here.

All.

I thought I would share my bad experience at Oppa KDH.

I phoned ahead and setup an appointment with "Howaito": [url]http://oppaoppa.com//girlinfo.html?g_id=0061[/url]

I went to Uguisudani and checked into a love hotel by the station. I called the mama-san to say that I had arrived. The girl arrived about 30 minutes later. She didn't speak Japanese or English. She took one look at me, then called the shop, said something in Korean and then left. I called the shop, an it turned out that she doesn't like Americans. The mama-san then said she would send another girl over, so I said OK, figuring that I had already paid the cost of the hotel, so might as well weait. I guess she could find a gaijin friendly girl at Oppa, so she outsourced the call to Chance DH. The girl who showed up was hideous, so I sent her away. I was about to leave, but I heard a few people outside my door for about 10 minutes talking in Korean. Wanting to avoid an altercation, I waited until the voices disappeared, then I left.

This was probably a blessing in disguise. Since although Howaito is definitely the same girl as in the photos, she looked very plain. No make-up at all. She was wearing a big baggy sweater, so I couldn't tell if her oppai were as big as advertised.

So altogether, two wasted hours traveling to and from Uguisuidani, and 3800 lost on the hotel.

I have always wondered about Korean girls working in other countries. If the Seoul board is to be believed, the anti-foreigner sentiment among Korean hookers is even worse than Japan.

Anybody else have a similar experience at KDH?

[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin; 1223634]I think he means Tokyo Melty Kiss (Manami)

[url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url]

She is well known on here.[/QUOTE]Aussigaigin,

Thanks for the link. When it was mentioned that this was a former AM girl, I thought it was one that I used to date who worked there. She was top notch and I used to feel bad about her working there because she was one of the first girls I bagged when I came to Japan 10 years ago. She was only working at a Hostess bar back then, but she got into a dispute with the management and she moved from Yokosuka to Tokyo for the "big life." Sad thing is she wanted to settle down with me, but alas I had my nose wide open and didn't. Probably a good thing. I have noticed with these girls that work at places like AM that they are really stuck on the "material side" of life and truly believe that the more you pay for something, the more valuable it is. I know it is true but these girls are really maerialistic and into image. She will work and make outstanding money, but yet burn it all on $400 pair of shoes or a $1000 purse, and live in a little shoe box in Tokyo. She used to tell me how some of her clients would tell her things as to what types of stocks to buy, but she didn't listen just didn't have the insight to look downrage and figure out that no matter how many face lifts and tatoos and boob jobs you get, you will still get old. The girl I am talking about was a classic Japanese beauty before, but the last time I saw her, she looked like the Joker (the one played by Jack Nicholson) with that artifical smile on her face.

Don't get me wrong, if I didn't believe in paying I wouldn't be on here, and I don't blame a girl for "shaking her money maker" but some of these women really have an inflated sense of themselves. I would rather have a poor woman from some Third world country and pay her the same amount and probably get more service and better appreciation than Manami.

Dr Bombay.

I recall about 2 years ago, there were some posts stating that Manami had announced that her "retirement" from the industry would be in March last year.

Obviously she is still going, no doubt for the reasons you state.

I have never met the girl, but it has been interesting following her "history' as reported here.

[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin; 1223843]Dr Bombay.

I recall about 2 years ago, there were some posts stating that Manami had announced that her "retirement" from the industry would be in March last year.

Obviously she is still going, no doubt for the reasons you state.

I have never met the girl, but it has been interesting following her "history' as reported here.[/QUOTE]Aussiegaijin,

If she is like the one I used to date, she probably blew all of her money on expensive things that she really didn't need. But who am I to complain. I respect the women believe it or not who have enough sense to have to sell themselves to a lurker like me, but put aside money since they know that they can't keep it up. But, I imagine that in a few more years, she will not be able to get the price she is asking. I think what really sets me off on this chick is when you look at her page and she explains how far she can travel in Yokohama, she names some of the most expensive hotels in the area. I would take her to a high end Love Hotel, but not the Pan Pacific and the other places she names. They have to be a real GFE before I treat them to something like that

[QUOTE=Drbombay; 1223832]Aussigaigin,

Thanks for the link. When it was mentioned that this was a former AM girl, I thought it was one that I used to date who worked there. She was top notch and I used to feel bad about her working there because she was one of the first girls I bagged when I came to Japan 10 years ago. She was only working at a Hostess bar back then, but she got into a dispute with the management and she moved from Yokosuka to Tokyo for the "big life." Sad thing is she wanted to settle down with me, but alas I had my nose wide open and didn't. Probably a good thing. I have noticed with these girls that work at places like AM that they are really stuck on the "material side" of life and truly believe that the more you pay for something, the more valuable it is. I know it is true but these girls are really maerialistic and into image. She will work and make outstanding money, but yet burn it all on $400 pair of shoes or a $1000 purse, and live in a little shoe box in Tokyo. She used to tell me how some of her clients would tell her things as to what types of stocks to buy, but she didn't listen just didn't have the insight to look downrage and figure out that no matter how many face lifts and tatoos and boob jobs you get, you will still get old. The girl I am talking about was a classic Japanese beauty before, but the last time I saw her, she looked like the Joker (the one played by Jack Nicholson) with that artifical smile on her face.

Don't get me wrong, if I didn't believe in paying I wouldn't be on here, and I don't blame a girl for "shaking her money maker" but some of these women really have an inflated sense of themselves. I would rather have a poor woman from some Third world country and pay her the same amount and probably get more service and better appreciation than Manami.[/QUOTE]Possibly the tangent to end all tangents.

ES

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1223664]I have always wondered about Korean girls working in other countries. If the Seoul board is to be believed, the anti-foreigner sentiment among Korean hookers is even worse than Japan.

Anybody else have a similar experience at KDH?[/QUOTE]I've had only good relations with Koreans, both "professionally" and socially. But I have seen the venom they hold for some and it can frightening.

I've read a lot of mentions of Supergirls but I've searched all the Tokyo threads but could not find the address. What is the address? Any suggestions for something similar to SG near the Grand Hyatt hotel Roppoingi? Thanks

What shops did you use for your "professional" relations with Koreans?

[QUOTE=Japanguy;1223908]I've had only good relations with Koreans, both "professionally" and socially. But I have seen the venom they hold for some and it can frightening.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin; 1223634]I think he means Tokyo Melty Kiss (Manami)

[url]http://www.tokyomeltykiss.com/[/url]

She is well known on here.[/QUOTE]Correct-thanks for finding the link-positive and negative reviews and expensive.

[QUOTE=BigManJapan;1223415]Hey Marwar was the Korean delicious deli girl Ai? She's so sweet and has a nice body! Also who were the Japanese girls you had from delicious? I'm kinda dating one of them and curious if you banged my girl LOL[/QUOTE]Funny story in that when they sent the first girl I was looking at the site and thought they said Reina, but in fact it was a name sounding like "Chiena." Not sure of spelling. I asked for her again and got the real Reina who is on the site. If you look at the Erolin's site they only list 8 or so girls, but if you look at their Japanese site there are 20. The 3rd and best of the group was named Elle and she is Japanese but I don't see her listed. Didn't matter-all were attractive, young, and great service.

[QUOTE=Marwar58;1224084]Funny story in that when they sent the first girl I was looking at the site and thought they said Reina, but in fact it was a name sounding like "Chiena." Not sure of spelling. I asked for her again and got the real Reina who is on the site. If you look at the Erolin's site they only list 8 or so girls, but if you look at their Japanese site there are 20. The 3rd and best of the group was named Elle and she is Japanese but I don't see her listed. Didn't matter-all were attractive, young, and great service.[/QUOTE]Yeah Delicious uses fake place holder pictures for some of their girls but the ones that show up are always hot but maybe not the one in the pic LOL! Oh you didn't have my girl then, sorry you missed out.

By the way try Eri she's smokin hot real slim and Gyeru tan skin with short sexy hair. Her favorite position is to lay flat on her stomach and have you pound her from behind. She's completely shaven and has super smooth almost non existent labia.

She works at a hostess bar also. If you treat her right she'll invite you to hang with her there. Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=BigManJapan; 1224104]Yeah Delicious uses fake place holder pictures for some of their girls but the ones that show up are always hot but maybe not the one in the pic LOL! Oh you didn't have my girl then, sorry you missed out.

By the way try Eri she's smokin hot real slim and Gyeru tan skin with short sexy hair. Her favorite position is to lay flat on her stomach and have you pound her from behind. She's completely shaven and has super smooth almost non existent labia.

She works at a hostess bar also. If you treat her right she'll invite you to hang with her there. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Is FS with Delicious gals a reasonable expectation, or something that requires a 'tip'?

Delicious is another service that I've been unable to find details on by searching the Tokyo forum. What is the URL or address please?Thanks[QUOTE=Backtobasics;1224180]Is FS with Delicious gals a reasonable expectation, or something that requires a 'tip'?[/QUOTE]

I am wondering can I get girls from delivery health to come guesthouses (long term stay) or only hotels / motel?

[QUOTE=Backtobasics;1224180]Is FS with Delicious gals a reasonable expectation, or something that requires a 'tip'?[/QUOTE]I've had I think 7 Delicious girls and all were full service for ?5000 they always tell you right up front that it's going to be ?5000 for FS. Even had the mama-San tell me by email. Once you get to know the girls it's funny to hear them talk about her apparently she has quite a temper on her LOL!

One note when I banged Yumi (Umi) on the site she looks maybe thai or something? She never mentioned the 5k until she was riding on top of me sumatra style and saying hoshi hoshi once I put it in her she said can you tip ?5000 kinda bait and switch making it seem like a freebie then asking for tip once the deed was done. I've never had any of the other girls do this. So long story short if you stick your Willie in a Delicious girl have an extra ?5000 note on hand.

[QUOTE=BigManJapan; 1224104]Yeah Delicious uses fake place holder pictures for some of their girls but the ones that show up are always hot but maybe not the one in the pic LOL! Oh you didn't have my girl then, sorry you missed out.By the way try Eri she's smokin hot real slim and Gyeru tan skin with short sexy hair. Her favorite position is to lay flat on her stomach and have you pound her from behind. She's completely shaven and has super smooth almost non existent labia.She works at a hostess bar also. If you treat her right she'll invite you to hang with her there. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]As per your suggestion, I requested Eri yesterday. I'm not sure she was the same person as you described. No doubt, she was smoking hot and she had short hair and tan skin. She said that she worked at a hostess bar too. However, she was nowhere near completely shaven, but she was still well kept in the pubic area.And once again at Delicious (although good pussy is good pussy) , I was disappointed to find out that she is not Japanese. She is Chinese. It's not that I didn't enjoy her company, and I would probably request her again as a backup, but there are cheaper options for hot Chinese girls walking the streets at night around Shinokubo all the time.Next time I call them, should a request a Japanese girl or would that be rude?

[QUOTE=Dlbtmail; 1224547]As per your suggestion, I requested Eri yesterday. I'm not sure she was the same person as you described. No doubt, she was smoking hot and she had short hair and tan skin. She said that she worked at a hostess bar too. However, she was nowhere near completely shaven, but she was still well kept in the pubic area.

And once again at Delicious (although good pussy is good pussy) , I was disappointed to find out that she is not Japanese. She is Chinese. It's not that I didn't enjoy her company, and I would probably request her again as a backup, but there are cheaper options for hot Chinese girls walking the streets at night around Shinokubo all the time.

Next time I call them, should a request a Japanese girl or would that be rude?[/QUOTE]It was probably the same girl, I had her like back in August which leaves plenty of time for the bushes to grow LOL she was baby smooth when I saw her. I forgot she was Chinese I thought she was Korean. But yeah she's pretty damn hot hope you had a good time otherwise. Yes you can ask if the girl is Japanese on the phone or email and they will tell you. There's another girl who I had with them who is Chinese but I can't recall her name, I'll check the site and let you know bro.

[QUOTE=BigManJapan;1224759]It was probably the same girl, I had her like back in August which leaves plenty of time for the bushes to grow LOL she was baby smooth when I saw her. I forgot she was Chinese I thought she was Korean. But yeah she's pretty damn hot hope you had a good time otherwise. Yes you can ask if the girl is Japanese on the phone or email and they will tell you. There's another girl who I had with them who is Chinese but I can't recall her name, I'll check the site and let you know bro.[/QUOTE]Misaki is the Chinese girl I was thinking of, very cute and great BBBJ!

So-so English skills.

[QUOTE=Shirokyu;1220931]Cute, tanned toned. She is an ok experience. She likes money and presents.[/QUOTE]She also has a tendency to take it very easy. I do not recommend long times.

I had the pleasure of seeing two Delicious girls, Harumi and Miyuki, over the weekend (not at the same time. Both girls were excellent and I would not hesitate to repeat with either of them: great service provided with a great attitude. Service levels were as reported earlier so I won't repeat them. Their English was limited but this was not a hindrance in any way.Miyuki was the standout. She's a gorgeous 23-year old with a great body and a very playful personality. A very memorable session for me.A thank you to Marwar58 for the inspiration to try Delicious.

Anyone ever tried DH service from Club Boo in Tokyo. Here's the link: [url]http://www.clubboo.jp/frames/home.htm.[/url]

Please let me know if anyone has had any success.

I was checking my favorites and found another one. Anyone ever visited this one: [url]http://sweet-d.kir.jp/index.htm.[/url]

If I am late adding this to the board please forgive.

i have a question about the course descriptions at grimpeur: http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/system.phpwould a nihongo ga peraperani hanaseru member of the board please let me know the difference between the course at the top of the page and "health course" at the bottom of the page?sorry for not posting the text here, but this board does not seem to display japanese characters correctly.

[quote=loveshibuyagirls; 1225693]i have a question about the course descriptions at grimpeur: [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/system.php[/url]would a nihongo ga peraperani hanaseru member of the board please let me know the difference between the course at the top of the page and "health course" at the bottom of the page? sorry for not posting the text here, but this board does not seem to display japanese characters correctly.[/quote]if you were talking about the first course &30528; &12456; &12525; &22812; &36889; &12356; &12467; &12540; &12473; , then it just means you would have the girl dressed up in one of the sexy custom, underware and such. not too much differences since they will be off within 30 secs after you want the service to start asap. time is money dude. also there are many other shops is much better then grimpeur. try the [url]http://sibuya-smile.com/index_top.[/url] i'm asian and speak some japanese. told their tencho and never got a problem from them.

[quote=loveshibuyagirls; 1225693]i have a question about the course descriptions at grimpeur: [url]http://www.s-grimpeur.jp/system.php[/url]

would a nihongo ga peraperani hanaseru member of the board please let me know the difference between the course at the top of the page and "health course" at the bottom of the page?

sorry for not posting the text here, but this board does not seem to display japanese characters correctly.[/quote]so from what i can understand, the health course on the bottom of the page is the most basic course you can have. the course on the top offers the same services as the basic health course, but you can choose a costume for the girl to wear. the second course is the costume course plus the use of an electric massager, and the third course is the same as the second course, but you can blindfold the girl.

[QUOTE=Dlbtmail; 1224547]As per your suggestion, I requested Eri yesterday. I'm not sure she was the same person as you described. No doubt, she was smoking hot and she had short hair and tan skin. She said that she worked at a hostess bar too. However, she was nowhere near completely shaven, but she was still well kept in the pubic area.

And once again at Delicious (although good pussy is good pussy) , I was disappointed to find out that she is not Japanese. She is Chinese. It's not that I didn't enjoy her company, and I would probably request her again as a backup, but there are cheaper options for hot Chinese girls walking the streets at night around Shinokubo all the time.

Next time I call them, should a request a Japanese girl or would that be rude?[/QUOTE]When and where in Shinokubo do the street walkers come out? I passed by there around 11:00pm last night and only saw groups of friends and no one "suspicious." I later passed through northern Ikebukuro and there were two Chinese streetwalkers who made things pretty obvious. One might of been soliciting for a shop because she asked "massage?" She looked "doable" but definitely not "hot." The other was clearly a streetwalker but was quite old and not that pretty. I'm interested to see if the ones in Shinokubo are much better looking so any information would be appreciated.

That's what I thought it said.

The description of the top course also says that your time doesn't start until the girl puts on the costume, correct?

In that case, since the two courses are the same price, I wonder why anyone would choose the bottom course?

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1225709]So from what I can understand, the health course on the bottom of the page is the most basic course you can have. The course on the top offers the same services as the basic health course, but you can choose a costume for the girl to wear. The second course is the costume course plus the use of an electric massager, and the third course is the same as the second course, but you can blindfold the girl.[/QUOTE]

I've tried Smile as well.Whenever I go to smile, I get charged 4, 000 JPY more than the prices on the website. Also, the girls usually want 5, 000 or 10, 000 JPY for FS and it ends up being quite expensive.I've also found the quality of girls at Smile to be all over the map. Some very cute, some downright ugly. The girls at Grimpeur have been more consistently attractive, although not stunners.Also, I think the most popular girls at Smile (in the Top 5) are off-limits to foreigners. I never seem to be able to book them.[QUOTE=Smith Ed; 1225703]If you were talking about the first course &30528; &12456; &12525; &22812; &36889; &12356; &12467; &12540; &12473; , then it just means you would have the girl dressed up in one of the sexy custom, underware and such. Not too much differences since they will be off within 30 secs after you want the service to start asap. Time is money dude. Also there are many other shops is much better then grimpeur. Try the.[url]http://sibuya-smile.com/index_top.[/url]I'm asian and speak some japanese. Told their tencho and never got a problem from them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horstw; 1225681]I had the pleasure of seeing two Delicious girls, Harumi and Miyuki, over the weekend (not at the same time. Both girls were excellent and I would not hesitate to repeat with either of them: great service provided with a great attitude. Service levels were as reported earlier so I won't repeat them. Their English was limited but this was not a hindrance in any way.Miyuki was the standout. She's a gorgeous 23-year old with a great body and a very playful personality. A very memorable session for me.A thank you to Marwar58 for the inspiration to try Delicious.[/QUOTE]And thank you Horstw. I just had 100 min session with Miyuki based upon your recommendation and she was really fun. She's 3/4 Japanese. 1/4 Taiwanese from Fukuoka. Lots of kissing and moaning and calling my name out during sex. She has a nice compact little body, soft skin, long hair. She kept it fun and light. Great time.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1225776]That's what I thought it said.

The description of the top course also says that your time doesn't start until the girl puts on the costume, correct?

In that case, since the two courses are the same price, I wonder why anyone would choose the bottom course?[/QUOTE]The time most likely starts when the girl arrives at the door. I believe the message you're referring to is saying that you can choose a pose for the girl to do at the start of "play time." I guess that means if she's in a police uniform she can do the "you're under arrest pose" or something. My guess is that they change into the costume after they arrive and may eat some time doing that, so the normal course is for people who want to get straight to the point, or don't really care for cosplay, or figure the girl will be naked soon enough anyways.

[QUOTE=Sesena;1224238]I am wondering can I get girls from delivery health to come guesthouses (long term stay) or only hotels / motel?[/QUOTE]Can anyone answer this?

I had a big day in Hong Kong yesterday and took a nap and slept past the 23:00 cut-off where you need a room key to use the lifts at the Hyatt wher I'm staying. I almost decided against calling a DH service but I'm glad I did.I used the Eurolin site and sent in a reservation for a girl from Angell. My phone in my room range within minutes and a woman who spoke passable English asked what kind of girl I wanted. For time I asked for 70 min but she said 100 for 22k yen. Okay.I told her to call when she was in the lobby so I could let her in. After 20 minutes or so the service called nd said she was here. I went down and found a pretty, petite JP gal named Ayo. We went up, undressed and showered and she laid me down and started sucking my nipples while I caressed her tight little body and firm A cup titties. After a few rounds of BBBJ she asked if I wanted sex, I gave her another 5k and she rode me in cowgirl and Asian cowgirl (appropriately enough) and then wanted to switch to mish. She stroked my body and rubbed my nipples as I pumped her tight little pussy. As I was getting close, I asked her to talk dirty to me in Japanese, I had no idea what she was saying, it could have been her grocery list but she had a cute voice and it completed my Japanese cultural experience and I popped out my seed into the condom after a few more deep thrusts.I didn't keep track of time but I think she stayed a couple hours. When she was dressing I pointed at her cute socks and he tried to say something about working til 5 and that it was cold and asked if I had any kids. I think, she was going to give me her socks, or would have if it was warmer. I should have asked for her panties. Maybe I will next time I'm here.Only thing missing was that there wasn't much kissing, otherwise I'd give her an 8 or 9. Best of the four so far this trip, most expensive too though. Oh well, get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=Sesena;1224238]I am wondering can I get girls from delivery health to come guesthouses (long term stay) or only hotels / motel?[/QUOTE]What are the guesthouse rules about having visitors?

[QUOTE=Jojochachkins;1225843]And thank you Horstw. I just had 100 min session with Miyuki based upon your recommendation and she was really fun. She's 3/4 Japanese. 1/4 Taiwanese from Fukuoka. Lots of kissing and moaning and calling my name out during sex. She has a nice compact little body, soft skin, long hair. She kept it fun and light. Great time.[/QUOTE]Sweet! I'm glad you had a good time with her. She was definitely the highlight of my trip to Tokyo.

Hi, I'm in Tokyo only for one more week and really wanted to have a sexual experience with a Japanese girl before I leave. As I'm staying with my uncle and his family here, I can't have a Delivery to my place.I read parts of the Thread and it seems like DELICIOUS seems to be a good place, yet I can't find the adress of the webpage. Can you please provide me with it? Also, I'd be happy if somebody could answer following questions:1. Is it possible to have a (Delicious) Delivery with almost no Japanese Knowledge, only English? Do they understand English when I call? 2. Is it possible to have them delivered to a love hotel and will there be no problem with the love hotel? 3. Are there any hidden costs for a guaranteed FS (I read you have to tip them 5. 000, is there a minimum duration to get FS)? If there is any problem with the points above, what is the best (and maybe not most expensive) way to get laid with 0 Japanese knowledge and without being fooled? Thanks a lot!

I'm sorry to ask, but where is that Delicious place? I didn't quite get it.

[QUOTE=Little Jared;1226368]I'm sorry to ask, but where is that Delicious place? I didn't quite get it.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.delicious-deli.net/top.html.[/url]

To contribute sth as well: Just went to Jan Jan. They're still very open to Gaijin and 3000 for 20min BBBJ seems like a fair price. The place is okay, a little bit smokey but walls are high enough to provide at least a bit of privacy. I had Asami, a girl around her 30s, very small cups but a nice ass. Kissing. 69, open for all but lacked a bit the BJ skills. Nice moaning however, would recommend it for that price! Trying out Hinomaru and Emotion the next days, if requested I'll share my opinion about them as well.

[QUOTE=Little Jared;1226368]I'm sorry to ask, but where is that Delicious place? I didn't quite get it.[/QUOTE]Jared and KingD, go to tokyonights. Jp or erolin. Net and you can do an online reservation. I speak Japanese so I called them directly after checking into the LH. I think Erolin. Net provides some assistance on what to say on the phone, too. Check one or both of those sites and try it out. They might even speak some English. Simple English. Good luck.FYI the deli site for delicious is delicious-deli. Net. I think they gave an English page.

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1225713]When and where in Shinokubo do the street walkers come out? I passed by there around 11:00pm last night and only saw groups of friends and no one "suspicious." I later passed through northern Ikebukuro and there were two Chinese streetwalkers who made things pretty obvious. One might of been soliciting for a shop because she asked "massage?" She looked "doable" but definitely not "hot." The other was clearly a streetwalker but was quite old and not that pretty. I'm interested to see if the ones in Shinokubo are much better looking so any information would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've stayed in Shinokubo past the last train many times and I have seen a handful of girls hanging out in front of the train station even though the koban is only a few meters away. For streetwalkers, it's pretty hit and miss, but I have seen some cute and hot girls among the old and ragged. Also, in the alleyways from the station to the Don Quijote, sometimes they will be hanging about. There's a 7-11 on the same street as Donki, and I've seen some girls hanging around there late a night.

[QUOTE=Aussiegaigin;1225971]What are the guesthouse rules about having visitors?[/QUOTE]I can bring one guest for 2 nights. But will delivery health girls go to guesthouses?

[QUOTE=KingD;1226412]To contribute sth as well: Just went to Jan Jan. They're still very open to Gaijin and 3000 for 20min BBBJ seems like a fair price. The place is okay, a little bit smokey but walls are high enough to provide at least a bit of privacy. I had Asami, a girl around her 30s, very small cups but a nice ass. Kissing. 69, open for all but lacked a bit the BJ skills. Nice moaning however, would recommend it for that price! Trying out Hinomaru and Emotion the next days, if requested I'll share my opinion about them as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Where is this Jan Jan?

Ok- had a chance to visit both gaijin-friendly Pink Salons in the past several days, and I am interested to know what you think about the differences. Here is what I think.Jan Jan (Sugamo) Price (off-peak).3000 yen for 20 minutes. Gaijin welcomed enthusiastically.Play. Everything short of FS. BBBJ is standard, with GFE style friendly service.Environment. Dimly lit medium sized room with vinyl sofas that all face the front of the room with semi-high partitions between, so a modicum of privacy. Except of course when people enter and leave, they walk up the aisle right next to you, and can see EVERYTHING. But then again, they are usually looking at the girl, so no big deal, right? Procedure. No pictures on display (if I recall). You are shown the stairs down by the friendly tout, and the mama-san asks for 3000 yen. Then, you are shown a booth. The room used to be too dark, but it appears that they turned up the house lights recently, so you can see everything more clearly. A host comes by and asks to check your fingernails, and then sprays your hands with sanitizer. After 5 minutes, the girl comes with hot and cold towels, which she uses to clean up before and after.Staff- Went twice recently, and both times had the furthest booth in the front left, which appears to be Asami's playspace. She is as described below, not stunningly beautiful, but pleasant enough- BBBJ technique is very, very average.Extras- There is no FS, but depending on how you get on with the girl, you might get sumata, or other creative way to get you off.Hinomaru (Shinjuku) Price (off-peak 4000 yen for 20 minutes, Gaijin welcomed enthusiastically.Play- Same as Jan Jan.Environment. Rather amazing building- it is a converted movie theater from the 80s, I think. Must have been quite a place. About 15 years ago. Faded red carpet up 2 flights of stairs to a sliding glass door. Hosts wear tuxedos, which is laughable, when you think about it, and you feel like you are in a time-warp. Two large boards are placed just inside the sliding doors, with the pictures of all girls shown as B5 sized headshots. The available girls are shown arranged in a row at the top of the board, and you can choose which girl you like for no extra charge (which I guess is nice). Judging from my experience, the girl in the photo looked EXACTLY like her picture (okay- plus a year or two) , but with the dim lighting, it doesn't really matter.Procedure- At the time, there was no tout, so I just walked up. I was greeted quickly by the tuxedoed host, who gestured to the board and asked me what kind of woman I liked. I chose one of the three available at the time, and asked how long I would like to play. Then, I was led to the cashier who is hidden behind a partition (as if THAT will save you the embarrassment of paying for a BBBJ). Then, I was led to the booth, which is almost 50% larger than Jan Jan- and a low vinyl sofa. Relatively private booth. With mirrored walls, separated from other booths by beads hanging from the ceiling. I could be wrong, but this area actually appears to be the hallway leading to a theater area which they modified to hold a series of booths.Here is where there are troubling signs. Yes, the BBBJ was fine. The girl was fine. But there were no hot towels, or cold towels for that matter. Instead, only those cheap oshibori paper towels wrapped in plastic, a bottle of disinfectant, and a box of tissues on the table. The girl would unwrap one of those towels, and apply a lot of disinfectant to each towel, and do all the proper cleaning. Chatting with the girl after the deed, she said that things are slooooooooow, with the place basically being absolutely dead until at least 7pm, and even then, it isn't that great.Extras- In the past, there are reports of protected FS being offered at NO extra charge by SOME girls at certain times at Hinomaru. YMMMV.It would be a shame to lose Hinomaru- but all things considered, you pay less at Jan Jan, and other than not being able to pick your girl, Jan Jan seems to be better in every way. I sure hope I'm wrong, but Hinomaru has a bit of the smell of slow death around it.

[QUOTE=Sesena;1226518]I can bring one guest for 2 nights. But will delivery health girls go to guesthouses?[/QUOTE]Most delivery websites stipulate that private residences are okay, but there's an extra travel expense that is charged. I genuinely have no idea if it covers guesthouses but I can't imagine why not; however, every delivery place has their own policy on non hotels so the unfortunate answer is,"you need to call and ask the shop."

[QUOTE=Ektelontt;1226822]Most delivery websites stipulate that private residences are okay, but there's an extra travel expense that is charged. I genuinely have no idea if it covers guesthouses but I can't imagine why not; however, every delivery place has their own policy on non hotels so the unfortunate answer is,"you need to call and ask the shop."[/QUOTE]Of course there's also the issue of a shared bathroom in guest houses. Bringing a hooker into shared accommodation is probably not going to impress many people.

All.

I tried Angell DH from the erolin website earlier this week.

This place is a ripoff. The girls are Chinese. The girl who showed up looked nothing like the girl who I requested, even though the operator said that the girl I requetsed was available.

I asked the girl who showed up at my apartment if all of the girls at the shop are Chinese and she said yes.

I guess I can't complain about value. 25, 000 JPY (20, 000 for 100 minutes plus 5, 000 tip for FS). The girl let me go twice in the time.

However, if you order from this place, don't expect any of the cute 20 year old gyaru in the pics to show up.

[QUOTE=Horstw; 1225681]I had the pleasure of seeing two Delicious girls, Harumi and Miyuki, over the weekend (not at the same time. Both girls were excellent and I would not hesitate to repeat with either of them: great service provided with a great attitude. Service levels were as reported earlier so I won't repeat them. Their English was limited but this was not a hindrance in any way.Miyuki was the standout. She's a gorgeous 23-year old with a great body and a very playful personality. A very memorable session for me.A thank you to Marwar58 for the inspiration to try Delicious.[/QUOTE]Hey Horstw,Could you describe Harumi a bit more? As the site doesn't post much info on the girls, I'd be curious for more first hand review.Thanks

[QUOTE=BigManJapan; 1224391]I've had I think 7 Delicious girls and all were full service for ?5000 they always tell you right up front that it's going to be ?5000 for FS. Even had the mama-San tell me by email. Once you get to know the girls it's funny to hear them talk about her apparently she has quite a temper on her LOL! One note when I banged Yumi (Umi) on the site she looks maybe thai or something? She never mentioned the 5k until she was riding on top of me sumatra style and saying hoshi hoshi once I put it in her she said can you tip ?5000 kinda bait and switch making it seem like a freebie then asking for tip once the deed was done. I've never had any of the other girls do this. So long story short if you stick your Willie in a Delicious girl have an extra ?5000 note on hand.[/QUOTE]Hey BigManJapan,You've had a number of the delicious deli girls. Who else would you recommend outside of Eri and Misaki?

[QUOTE=K1234K; 1226804]Ok- had a chance to visit both gaijin-friendly Pink Salons in the past several days, and I am interested to know what you think about the differences. Here is what I think.

Jan Jan (Sugamo)

Price (off-peak).3000 yen for 20 minutes. Gaijin welcomed enthusiastically.

Play. Everything short of FS. BBBJ is standard, with GFE style friendly service.

Environment. Dimly lit medium sized room with vinyl sofas that all face the front of the room with semi-high partitions between, so a modicum of privacy. Except of course when people enter and leave, they walk up the aisle right next to you, and can see EVERYTHING. But then again, they are usually looking at the girl, so no big deal, right?

Procedure. No pictures on display (if I recall). You are shown the stairs down by the friendly tout, and the mama-san asks for 3000 yen. Then, you are shown a booth. The room used to be too dark, but it appears that they turned up the house lights recently, so you can see everything more clearly. A host comes by and asks to check your fingernails, and then sprays your hands with sanitizer. After 5 minutes, the girl comes with hot and cold towels, which she uses to clean up before and after.

Staff- Went twice recently, and both times had the furthest booth in the front left, which appears to be Asami's playspace. She is as described below, not stunningly beautiful, but pleasant enough- BBBJ technique is very, very average.

Extras- There is no FS, but depending on how you get on with the girl, you might get sumata, or other creative way to get you off.

Hinomaru (Shinjuku)

Price (off-peak 4000 yen for 20 minutes, Gaijin welcomed enthusiastically.

Play- Same as Jan Jan.

Environment. Rather amazing building- it is a converted movie theater from the 80s, I think. Must have been quite a place. About 15 years ago. Faded red carpet up 2 flights of stairs to a sliding glass door. Hosts wear tuxedos, which is laughable, when you think about it, and you feel like you are in a time-warp. Two large boards are placed just inside the sliding doors, with the pictures of all girls shown as B5 sized headshots. The available girls are shown arranged in a row at the top of the board, and you can choose which girl you like for no extra charge (which I guess is nice). Judging from my experience, the girl in the photo looked EXACTLY like her picture (okay- plus a year or two) , but with the dim lighting, it doesn't really matter.

Procedure- At the time, there was no tout, so I just walked up. I was greeted quickly by the tuxedoed host, who gestured to the board and asked me what kind of woman I liked. I chose one of the three available at the time, and asked how long I would like to play. Then, I was led to the cashier who is hidden behind a partition (as if THAT will save you the embarrassment of paying for a BBBJ). Then, I was led to the booth, which is almost 50% larger than Jan Jan- and a low vinyl sofa. Relatively private booth. With mirrored walls, separated from other booths by beads hanging from the ceiling. I could be wrong, but this area actually appears to be the hallway leading to a theater area which they modified to hold a series of booths.

Here is where there are troubling signs. Yes, the BBBJ was fine. The girl was fine. But there were no hot towels, or cold towels for that matter. Instead, only those cheap oshibori paper towels wrapped in plastic, a bottle of disinfectant, and a box of tissues on the table. The girl would unwrap one of those towels, and apply a lot of disinfectant to each towel, and do all the proper cleaning. Chatting with the girl after the deed, she said that things are slooooooooow, with the place basically being absolutely dead until at least 7pm, and even then, it isn't that great.

Extras- In the past, there are reports of protected FS being offered at NO extra charge by SOME girls at certain times at Hinomaru. YMMMV.

It would be a shame to lose Hinomaru- but all things considered, you pay less at Jan Jan, and other than not being able to pick your girl, Jan Jan seems to be better in every way. I sure hope I'm wrong, but Hinomaru has a bit of the smell of slow death around it.[/QUOTE]Always meant to ask, where is hinomaru? I go on a lot of dates in shinjuku and Shibuya so a place for a quick BJ after a date that didn't end in sex would be great. From shinjuku station how would I reach hinomaru?

[QUOTE=BigManJapan;1227080]Always meant to ask, where is hinomaru? I go on a lot of dates in shinjuku and Shibuya so a place for a quick BJ after a date that didn't end in sex would be great. From shinjuku station how would I reach hinomaru?[/QUOTE]Easiest thing to do is paste this phone number into Google Maps and click search.03-3209-0088 &8206; Then zoom in like crazy. Streetview also works fine, as well.To put it in words, if you come out the JR Shinjuku Central (East) exit, and go up the stairs, you will be in a plaza area with a statue of a lion behind you, and Studio Alta building in front of you. Walk straight ahead, cross the street, choosing the major shopping street that is to the left of Studio Alta. You will then reach another major intersection, and should see a Don Quixote Store across the street on the corner to the right. Keep going straight (cross the major intersection) and the road dead ends into a large construction area. Turn right at the dead end, and a quick left. Walk straight. Then you will hit a T intersection (- a large building with "Hotel Liste" written in English in front of you). Turn left, and then take the first right. Hinomaru is on the right- you can't miss it. Its a 2 story building with a large golden lightbulb facade. THe sign is hanging off the side of the building. Its red with Hinomaru written in yellow Kanji characters).It really isn't hard to get to- just a little hard to describe. Again, check street view if you need help.

With all this talk of JanJan and Hinomaru. I was also inspired to head out to get some BJ action. So, I headed out to Kabukicho and was walking towards Hinomaru when I spotted New Hot Point.I haven't been there in a long time, so I wondered if they are still foreigner friendly. It was about six in the evening and about the time of the start of the 2nd shift. I headed inside, and the manager said that one of the girls had just gone home because she wasn't feeling well. He offered me a 500 yen discount on the entry fee and I said okay. The girl that left was Aoi. Apparently she was also there during the first shift and was supposed to work a double shift.Anyways, the lone dancer was Asuka. She has F cup breasts and she was gorgeous! Like a hostess or a model. I asked for the lip and touch service which costs 4000 yen. She danced for a few minutes and when she finished came into my small booth for the extra service. There was only one other guy there, but I was her first customer of the night.She started the CBJ and was going at it for a while. She was good, but not great. She then asked if she could finish me off with an HJ since it was apparent I wasn't going to come with a CBJ. I said sure, and after a few minutes it was over. Her HJ is quite good. Now, she had great breasts, and I'm no expert. Her breasts looked too perfect to be real, but felt really soft, so I'm not too sure if they were fake or not. After everything, she gave me her card with a 500 yen discount for next time, gave me a hug and said goodbye.The girls here are extremely gorgeous, but the price is double that of JanJan. I would probably go again on a night where Asuka is working.

Does anybody have any experience with this DH place? Are they gaijin OK?

[url]http://nyan2.jp/main.html[/url]

All.

Does anyone know if FS is available at Cutie Bomb? [url]www.1919ikebukuro.com[/url]

There have been a few reports and it seems like the posters didn't get it, although the reports didn't make it clear if they tried. AF is an option, so it seems like it should be available, although you might have to tip.

For Kei's fans, she's back on the schedule at Asian Relax

Is there any action to be had at Takadanobaba? I wandered a bit and found an oppai pub, but it was true to the name and all I could do was look at and touch the oppai. Any areas near the station you can get some more action?Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Japanguy;1228879]For Kei's fans, she's back on the schedule at Asian Relax[/QUOTE]Can you please provide a link or location. Thanks!

All.Here is an interesting option for DH. The website says which girls are OK with gaikokujin. Interestingly, most of the top-rated "VIP" girls are OK with gaijin.http://www.lr-shinjuku.com/cast/If anybody checks this place out, then please post a report.

All.

I had a good experience at Ageha: [url]www.wbc2008.com[/url]

I had Kitazawa-san. She did not look as good as her photos, but she was a freak. She told me up front "70 minutes 1 play", so it was clear from the start the FS was OK. She let me put all five fingers inside of her. I couldn't quite get my whole fist in. She also let me put my finger in her ass while I was fucking her. She was strict about "1 play" in the 70 minutes, but she let me jerk off a second shot into her mouth.

Of course, I don't know if all of the chicks are as dirty as Kitazawa-san. So be sure to request her in particular.

So if you don't mind older J ladies, then this place is a good value.

[QUOTE=Harlem Blade; 1229489]Is there any action to be had at Takadanobaba? I wandered a bit and found an oppai pub, but it was true to the name and all I could do was look at and touch the oppai. Any areas near the station you can get some more action?

Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]I know of these two shops out in Takadanobaba, but I haven't tried them yet myself. Let us all know what the shops are like if you decide to try their services.

[url]http://t-nurse.info/top.php[/url]

[url]http://www.sale-girl.info/top.php[/url]

i've been lurking here for a long time and learned a lot about mongering in tokyo. it's time for me to start giving back. i'll write a series of reports on some of the better places i've been. i'll start with aoi chiryoin in ueno where i started my mongering career.disclaimer: this shop welcomes non-japanese with a respectibly high level of japanese skills. they will test you that you can read their rules. recommend for mongers with jlpt level 2 or higher.the website is here:[url]http://aoi-r.net[/url]it is nominally a message with a happy handjob. go to the frot desk, choose your girl, go to the hotel and she shows up shortly thereafter. the girls are all japanese, early twenties to mid thirties, concentrated in the late twenties. they are more of the ol and girl-next-door types. most of the girls are real office ladies, nurses, or message therapists supplementing their day jobs. every girl i met has been attractive with a great figure. some of the messages are quite good, and the topless handjob has never failed to disappoint. some of these girls can do amazing stuff with their hands.you will not get fs. don't even try, it is rude. however, i have gotten extra services like dfk and bbbj from a couple girls, and one who i've seen several times gave me a sumatra session to die for.if you go, i recommend mao. she is a veteran and it is starting to show on her face, but her skills are among the best i've known. as for other girls that are still there, alice is a real message therapist, speaks good english, and usually lives in australia. she comes home on holidays, makes a pile of money then goes back, but i see she is in town when i checked yesterday. maybe you can catch her between now and the new year. the other girls i knew have left (i was a regular for two years).that's all for now. next time i'm on the train and in the mood, i'll post a review of another place. i've been to a few that i haven't seen mentioned on the forum.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1229680]All.I had a good experience at Ageha:[url]www.wbc2008.com[/url]I had Kitazawa-san. She did not look as good as her photos, but she was a freak. She told me up front "70 minutes 1 play", so it was clear from the start the FS was OK. She let me put all five fingers inside of her. I couldn't quite get my whole fist in. She also let me put my finger in her ass while I was fucking her. She was strict about "1 play" in the 70 minutes, but she let me jerk off a second shot into her mouth.Of course, I don't know if all of the chicks are as dirty as Kitazawa-san. So be sure to request her in particular.So if you don't mind older J ladies, then this place is a good value.[/QUOTE]So is this place gaijin friendly? And what level of japanese would be acceptable to get in here.

hey all, i've been a long time reader, this is my first post.it has been about 6 months since my visit, but hopefully this info will be of some use.search in google," est hana okubo" it should be the first link that comes up.i opted for the double therapist course, i think i paid 14, 000 yen. mama-san was quite welcoming. i let her know that i preferred busty girls, and she suggested nana and maki. nana was def busty, about e / f cup, and a cute face. she did look quite different from her pictures online, and even the picts mama san showed me. she was a bit chubby, but i didn't mind. maki was exactly like her photos.i was hoping for a little more play between the girls, but they pretty much stuck to their routine. nana was more outgoing, but she got pretty embarrassed when i asked if i could touch her cans. she let grope them for a bit, but not as much as i would have liked. maki was pretty shy and let nana lead. massage was decent, but i was pretty disappointed with the ending. i was hoping for a hand job with maybe a bit of co-op from the girls, but instead, nana suggested that i jerk myself off while they watch. :/nana sat behind me and rubbed my back and chest, and with maki in front, i managed to get her to fondle my balls before i shot a load on her arm. she giggled about it. then off to the shower and back for tea. they wanted to meet up that night, but i had plans already. maybe could have been good, but we'll never know.all in all, not too bad, but hopefully someone can enlighten us on a good esute shop that offers a 3p course and girls that are a little more into it.i'll post more soon.

According to Kitazawa-san, some of the girls are gaijin friendly and some aren't, so you will have to call and ask about the girl you want to see.

They actually post on the Erolin website as being OK for non-Japanese speakers. They also have an English speaking operator, so you should be able to get in with no Japanese at all.

[QUOTE=KenKenX;1229887]So is this place gaijin friendly? And what level of japanese would be acceptable to get in here.[/QUOTE]

This is from a couple weeks ago, but I went to Hinomaru, and I chose the new girl, Azusa. She is mid-twenties, cute face and bob haircut, big boobs. However, her she had no BJ technique whatsoever. To top it off, her pussy smelled like BO, like she doesn't use soap down there. I like to finger the girls while they blow me, but I couldn't bring myself to do it to her.Hopefully, they've schooled her on BJ techniques by now.Someone commented on it below, but it looks like Hinomaru is slipping away. The stereo has been busted for a while now, and most of the girls I liked have left or drastically cut their shifts to the point I don't see them anymore.

Geez- went to Hinomaru again, hoping disappointing visit from a couple of weeks ago was just a fluke. It wasn't. Picked Mimi, who might have resembled the picture on display a couple of years ago, and about 10 kg ago, too. Basically terrible provider- very little conversation, absolutely terrible technique (I actually had to stop her at one point, as she was causing me considerable pain.) Had to use serious Jedi mind tricks on myself to force climax. That, plus she moaned like a 50 year old chronic smoker with every breath- it was almost comical if it wasn't so disappointing.I mean, seriously- her technique was as if she never gave a BJ in her life. All the beginner mistakes- using teeth, sucking like a hoover vacuum with no other stimulation, death grip on the shaft- Hell- ANYONE with common sense could do a better job, beginner or not.That, PLUS like the poster below, Mimi was stinky down there. I would say an 8 on the scale of stinkiness. I mean, come on! On the other hand, maybe that is what the girls do there to avoid getting fingered.I have decided that it would be a long, long time before I consider going back.

[QUOTE=Jojochachkins; 1227041]Hey Horstw, Could you describe Harumi a bit more? As the site doesn't post much info on the girls, I'd be curious for more first hand review.Thanks[/QUOTE]Sorry for the late reply. Harumi has a medium build. I would not describe her as petite (taller and a bigger frame than Miyuki). She looks more Chinese than Japanese to me but I'm not going to claim any special expertise here. She still looked great and was a lot of fun. She was a bit shy at first but that melted away pretty quickly. She was very accommodating during the session and I was very respectful and that worked out quite well. Damn. I miss the Japanese level of service (in all things) already. Must. Go. Back.

First extended stay in tokyo in over a year so I checked the website schedule for new hot point. I've only been there once and chose yuria. The other girl from that time was really hot too but I forgot her name. Anyway haruka was on duty that day so I decided to try her since her reviews were so good. One of the new girls was supposed to be working that day but she didn't turn up. I arrived at around 10. 15am and was the third guy (there was a japanese guy with me in the lift but he almost got off on the wrong floor, and when he was at the correct floor he wasn't even sure if it was the place so I went ahead. Amateur.) Haruka only arrived at 10. 20 and the show only got going close to 11, so there were like 9 guys waiting. Since there was only 1 girl I only got 1 strip show (the strip show isn't the main thing but still.). Since I was no. 3 I didn't have to wait that long. What can I say, she's hot, her attitude is very good and she has skill. I can pretty much tell her what to do and she will know how to do it. Too bad that because of the circumstances she was rushed. She said something like "it probably doesn't feel as good with a condom does it?" and I said "that's right. Is it not possible to do it without a condom?" (gomu nashide dame desuka) she said "if I did so many guys without a condom it probably would not be good" to which she had a point. She let me kiss her on the lips but no DFK. I rubbed her through her panties and nothing beyond that. Finished by hand so that I could have my hands on her tits.After that I decided that I wanted something more, so I headed to jan jan in sugamo. I don't get these in my neck of the woods, only soaplands and fashion healths which get expensive. As usual, every other tout tries to get you in first. I actually stop to listen to one of them to get a measure of the competition, didn't get much out of him except him asking me to step away from the street for a bit then gesturing to me a blowjob, which was amusing to say the least.My past experiences in jan jan were always positive. I've had eri the most, probably 6 times, which speaks for itself. This time I got yukari or something. She looked like she was over 40 and wasn't even pretty. She wasn't a whale but wasn't exactly slender either. Worst of all she was smelly down below. Started off scrubbing my dick with a wet towel which is probably one of the most frightening experiences I've had. Technique was generally non-existent. I tried my best to cum before any more damage was done to my dick, but that was easier said when there was very little in terms of stimulation. In the end I was glad that it was only 3000 yen.

Pink salon booth are open concept? Meaning you can see and hear what others are doing?

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1229680]All.I had a good experience at Ageha:[url]www.wbc2008.com[/url][/QUOTE]Do you know the address? Are they near the Sugamo Station by Jan Jan? I couldn't find the address or any information about there location? If you can give me the google direction number that would be great!

[QUOTE=Sesena;1232114]Pink salon booth are open concept? Meaning you can see and hear what others are doing?[/QUOTE]You can definitely hear what is happening in the seat immediately behind you, but since all seats face forward, you can't really see what is happening, unless you stand up and look behind your bench. Also, when you leave, since you walk up the aisle, you get a FULL view of all the fun happening behind you, which often makes you want to come back, and try what someone else was enjoying.

There is no shop front. Everything is arranged over the phone.

First, you call the number on the website and make an appointment for the girl you want. They will then tell you to call back an hour before the appointment to confirm. When you call back to confirm, you agree on where to meet. I think they will send the girl anywhere in Tokyo. I met Kitazawa-san at a love hotel in Ikebukuro. If you meet at a love hotel, they will then call your room in the love hotel to confirm that you are actually there. I guess they have had a lot of problems with fake appointments. You then pay the girl at the end of the appointment.

As I mentioned before, they have an English speaking operator, so you can do all of this in English if necessary.

I think the girls are physically located somewhere near Sugamo.

[QUOTE=Geescummy;1232218]Do you know the address? Are they near the Sugamo Station by Jan Jan? I couldn't find the address or any information about there location? If you can give me the google direction number that would be great![/QUOTE]

Actually, the one time I went to Jan Jan, the guy in the booth in front of me stood up to get his BJ. He didn't look into my booth though, so it was OK. Still, this place is not exactly private. That is part of what addds to entertainment of the whole situation.

[QUOTE=K1234K;1232273]You can definitely hear what is happening in the seat immediately behind you, but since all seats face forward, you can't really see what is happening, unless you stand up and look behind your bench. Also, when you leave, since you walk up the aisle, you get a FULL view of all the fun happening behind you, which often makes you want to come back, and try what someone else was enjoying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1232434]There is no shop front. Everything is arranged over the phone.First, you call the number on the website and make an appointment for the girl you want. They will then tell you to call back an hour before the appointment to confirm. When you call back to confirm, you agree on where to meet. I think they will send the girl anywhere in Tokyo. I met Kitazawa-san at a love hotel in Ikebukuro. If you meet at a love hotel, they will then call your room in the love hotel to confirm that you are actually there. I guess they have had a lot of problems with fake appointments. You then pay the girl at the end of the appointment.As I mentioned before, they have an English speaking operator, so you can do all of this in English if necessary.I think the girls are physically located somewhere near Sugamo.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the quick reply back. It's good to know that they will take appointments in English. I guess I will need to get the love hotel first then call them for confirmation with the detailed location.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls;1232436]Actually, the one time I went to Jan Jan, the guy in the booth in front of me stood up to get his BJ. He didn't look into my booth though, so it was OK. Still, this place is not exactly private. That is part of what addds to entertainment of the whole situation.[/QUOTE]How about Sekai ni hitotsu dakeno hana?

When I used Ageha, I stayed at Hotel Ayer's Rock in Ikebukuro. It is in the group of love hotels near the north exit of Ikebukuro station. They already knew where it was, so I didn't need to give instructions.

[QUOTE=Geescummy;1232460]Thanks for the quick reply back. It's good to know that they will take appointments in English. I guess I will need to get the love hotel first then call them for confirmation with the detailed location.[/QUOTE]

I think I am done with Shibuya Smile. Although the management is friendly to foreigners, only the ugly girls will take foreigners, and they are too expensive for the quality of service. So if any of you want to experiment with this place, here is a brief review of each of the girls I saw. Let me know if you want more explicit detail on any of the girls.If I am ever able to book Kanna, I will give her a try, but for now, she is gaijin NG.Aina. Much cuter than the photos. A little bit chubby, with small boobs that make her look like an obese 13 year old boy. Very shy and had to take the lead with everything. FS at no extra charge.Miu (first visit). Again, much cuter than the photos. Also very shy and had to take the lead with everything. Terrible BJ technique. FS at no extra charge.Ran. Uglier than the photos. Very good DFK and BJ, but no FS. Tried to offer a tip, but no FS at any price. Let me cum all over her face, though. Hahahaha.Rina. Much cuter than the photos. Looks maybe mid-twenties. Great DFK and BJ. Great FS at no extra charge. Strange scar on the side of her stomach. Not a C-section scar.Kizuki. Killer body and great tits. Ugly ugly ugly face. No DFK but good BJ. 10000 for FS. Kept on asking me if I was done yet. I said "for 10000 I am going to plow you all day, so get out a magazine"Anna. Cuter than the photos. Great tits and ass. Says that she likes gaijin. Terrible hemorrhoids, I guess from getting plowed in the ass all the time. I think she is the only girl at the shop to do AF. FS for 5000. Good deal.Miu (second visit, two hours). She has gained some weight and has gotten an ugly tattoo on one of her thighs. Still terrible BJ technique. Seems to have lost her enthusiasm for the job. Now wants 5000 for FS. Kept on asking if I was finished and bitching about how I was hurting her legs. Maybe she thought because I was repeater she could get away with being a bittch. Got off two shots for the 5000 though.

Unbelievably pretty. 10 out of 10. The prettiest girl I have met in DH. When I opened the door, I could not believe my luck.

Grimpeur has a terrible photographer. Her photos make her look terrible, but believe me, she is probably the prettiest girl I have ever spoken to in Japan.

Unfortunately, FS is no good. Tried to offer a tip, but no FS at any price. Let me jerk off onto her tits instead.

If FS were open, even for 20000, it would be worth it.

Thanks to this board, I discovered AM soon after coming to Japan.As you can tell by my recent posts, I have started experimenting with DH instead.Although people often bittch about the quality of AM, I am beginning to think that AM is altogether a better deal. At AM, it is understood that there will be FS. For 38, 000, you get as many shots as you can handle in two hours. Usually, I have gotten three shots in the two hours. One time I got 4. The girls have generally had good technique.At DH, you never know if there is going to be FS, and if there is, there is often a tip, so it ends up being almost as expensive as AM, generally for one shot. Although the girls have been younger than at AM, I would not say they have been better looking, and I have had a few with downright bad technique, as if they had never touched a dick before.I am thinking of just going back to AM.I do not see the point in paying if there is no FS, so places like Jan Jan, although cheap, are not an option for me.I really miss Nana at Saranes. For 10000, I got wall to wall FS (actually BBFS if I wanted, but I never had the guts) for an hour. Anybody found something else like this? I should have seen her every day when I could have. I guess her tourist visa has expired, so she must have gone back to Korea by now.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1232860]Unbelievably pretty. 10 out of 10. The prettiest girl I have met in DH. When I opened the door, I could not believe my luck.

Grimpeur has a terrible photographer. Her photos make her look terrible, but believe me, she is probably the prettiest girl I have ever spoken to in Japan.

Unfortunately, FS is no good. Tried to offer a tip, but no FS at any price. Let me jerk off onto her tits instead.

If FS were open, even for 20000, it would be worth it.[/QUOTE]Ai is amazing indeed, with nicely trimmed and shaven pussy, but she is generally off limit to foreigners unless the tencho vouchers for you.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1232865]Thanks to this board, I discovered AM soon after coming to Japan.

As you can tell by my recent posts, I have started experimenting with DH instead.

Although people often bittch about the quality of AM, I am beginning to think that AM is altogether a better deal. At AM, it is understood that there will be FS. For 38, 000, you get as many shots as you can handle in two hours. Usually, I have gotten three shots in the two hours. One time I got 4. The girls have generally had good technique.

At DH, you never know if there is going to be FS, and if there is, there is often a tip, so it ends up being almost as expensive as AM, generally for one shot. Although the girls have been younger than at AM, I would not say they have been better looking, and I have had a few with downright bad technique, as if they had never touched a dick before.

I am thinking of just going back to AM.

I do not see the point in paying if there is no FS, so places like Jan Jan, although cheap, are not an option for me.

I really miss Nana at Saranes. For 10000, I got wall to wall FS (actually BBFS if I wanted, but I never had the guts) for an hour. Anybody found something else like this? I should have seen her every day when I could have. I guess her tourist visa has expired, so she must have gone back to Korea by now.[/QUOTE]I've been using Korean DH a lot recently. The girls are generally worse looking than the photos because they overuse photo shop, but I've never had a girl that was plain ugly. It usually ranges from okay to unbelievably gorgeous. Korean DH places always offer FS at no extra charge. It's usually not all you can shoot and the level of service does of course vary with the girl, but overall I've never been disappointed and wished for my money back. I usually go to KDH shops just because I feel a lot of the BS I usually have to go through at other places is non existent. Everything has always been straight forward but sometimes it's hard to understand the Korean mama-san's Japanese.

Quite a few shops are "Asian only," because it's kind of stupid to make a Korean shop "Japanese only." I recently used Kanbi because they offered a killer discount but that shop for sure is Asian only. I used k-girls a couple of times and many have confirmed that they are gaijin friendly. They recently changed names and websites to.

[url]http://k-deli.com/top.html[/url]

But it's the same girls etc. They usually offer some sort of discount if you read the homepage details. As with any shop I'd ask to make sure they're completely foreigner friendly when you call in just to avoid some mishap after you pay for a hotel.

[url]http://www.delirepo.com/[/url]

This website is a Japanese review site of KDH girls. I can't read and understand everything but the star rating system is enough to let you know if a girl is good or not.

I really miss Nana at Saranes too. I've never gotten better service from anyone regardless of price (a couple of yoshiwara soap girls came close, but if you factor in price.). She worked for a KDH for a short time after Saranes closed.

[url]http://www.delirepo.com/deliheru_post_view.php?post_no=2815[/url]

But sadly she's gone home and hasn't returned.

Hi guys. I am new here.I am thinking to try sibuya-smile. Com today and get ringo. But I don't know if she does FS no extra charge.Does anybody know. How many shots can I have on 60min course in shibuya-smile?

Hi guys I new here, I am thinking to try shibuya-smile today and get ringo.But I don't know if she does FS with no extra charge.By the way. How many shots can I have on 60min course?

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1232858]I think I am done with Shibuya Smile. Although the management is friendly to foreigners, only the ugly girls will take foreigners, and they are too expensive for the quality of service. So if any of you want to experiment with this place, here is a brief review of each of the girls I saw. Let me know if you want more explicit detail on any of the girls.If I am ever able to book Kanna, I will give her a try, but for now, she is gaijin NG.Aina. Much cuter than the photos. A little bit chubby, with small boobs that make her look like an obese 13 year old boy. Very shy and had to take the lead with everything. FS at no extra charge.Miu (first visit). Again, much cuter than the photos. Also very shy and had to take the lead with everything. Terrible BJ technique. FS at no extra charge.Ran. Uglier than the photos. Very good DFK and BJ, but no FS. Tried to offer a tip, but no FS at any price. Let me cum all over her face, though. Hahahaha.Rina. Much cuter than the photos. Looks maybe mid-twenties. Great DFK and BJ. Great FS at no extra charge. Strange scar on the side of her stomach. Not a C-section scar.Kizuki. Killer body and great tits. Ugly ugly ugly face. No DFK but good BJ. 10000 for FS. Kept on asking me if I was done yet. I said "for 10000 I am going to plow you all day, so get out a magazine"Anna. Cuter than the photos. Great tits and ass. Says that she likes gaijin. Terrible hemorrhoids, I guess from getting plowed in the ass all the time. I think she is the only girl at the shop to do AF. FS for 5000. Good deal.Miu (second visit, two hours). She has gained some weight and has gotten an ugly tattoo on one of her thighs. Still terrible BJ technique. Seems to have lost her enthusiasm for the job. Now wants 5000 for FS. Kept on asking if I was finished and bitching about how I was hurting her legs. Maybe she thought because I was repeater she could get away with being a bittch. Got off two shots for the 5000 though.[/QUOTE]What a great post, thanks very much for your input, agree with your comments, yen for yen these places arent reliable enough. I tried Haruna at smile, much uglier than photos and hopeless technique, no FS. I also tried Seri, who was very preety, and gave a great BJ, not sure if she was up for FS thou.Would say at 5A Kasumi and Kitty were both good, avoid new girl Reika, to be fair does say inexperienced, and she was just that, waste of money.Your list off girls at Smile, like you I like the Shibuya style chix, short minis and thigh high boots. Any of the ones you listed fit this bill?

Hey Blue Rose,

Did you get FS from Ai?

[QUOTE=Bluerose;1232887]Ai is amazing indeed, with nicely trimmed and shaven pussy, but she is generally off limit to foreigners unless the tencho vouchers for you.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info.

That is interesting about Nana. She must have been older than the other girls at that shop by 10 years or so. Still, I doubt anybody complained. She said that she had a kid in Korea, so I guess its hard for her to come here.

I've tried searching for another shop like Saranes (ie at the same price level. 10000 per hour, less expensive than KDH) but can't find anything. All the shops I find at that price level only have Chinese girls. Do you know of any good places?

[QUOTE=Ektelontt; 1232897]I've been using Korean DH a lot recently. The girls are generally worse looking than the photos because they overuse photo shop, but I've never had a girl that was plain ugly. It usually ranges from okay to unbelievably gorgeous. Korean DH places always offer FS at no extra charge. It's usually not all you can shoot and the level of service does of course vary with the girl, but overall I've never been disappointed and wished for my money back. I usually go to KDH shops just because I feel a lot of the BS I usually have to go through at other places is non existent. Everything has always been straight forward but sometimes it's hard to understand the Korean mama-san's Japanese.

Quite a few shops are "Asian only," because it's kind of stupid to make a Korean shop "Japanese only." I recently used Kanbi because they offered a killer discount but that shop for sure is Asian only. I used k-girls a couple of times and many have confirmed that they are gaijin friendly. They recently changed names and websites to.

[url]http://k-deli.com/top.html[/url]

But it's the same girls etc. They usually offer some sort of discount if you read the homepage details. As with any shop I'd ask to make sure they're completely foreigner friendly when you call in just to avoid some mishap after you pay for a hotel.

[url]http://www.delirepo.com/[/url]

This website is a Japanese review site of KDH girls. I can't read and understand everything but the star rating system is enough to let you know if a girl is good or not.

I really miss Nana at Saranes too. I've never gotten better service from anyone regardless of price (a couple of yoshiwara soap girls came close, but if you factor in price.). She worked for a KDH for a short time after Saranes closed.

[url]http://www.delirepo.com/deliheru_post_view.php?post_no=2815[/url]

But sadly she's gone home and hasn't returned.[/QUOTE]

Anyone see Yuko yet? She's been around for a good while and haven't seen a single report on her. I'm going to be in Japan this month- I like the 'spinner' petite girls, and her body looks nice and tight compared to Ai or a few of the others, but I always wonder how attractive her face is, etc.Thanks in advance!

Hey; I've been in town a few months and I've had no luck meeting women, so I've been thinking about calling a Deliheru place. Has anyone got experience with Lonely? Is it crazy to have them come to your apartment? Admittedly I haven't tried going to Gaspanic or some place yet. I'm young (25) , white, blue-eyed, not tall, speak Japanese adequately, and I'm not an English teacher, for what it's worth.I'm pretty clueless, so any advice would be appreciated.

Hey; I've been in town a few months and I've had no luck meeting women, so I've been thinking about calling a Deliheru place. Has anyone got experience with Lonely? Is it crazy to have them come to your apartment? Admittedly I haven't tried going to Gaspanic or some place yet. I'm young (25) , white, blue-eyed, not tall, speak Japanese adequately, and I'm not an English teacher, for what it's worth.I'm pretty clueless, so any advice would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1232961]Thanks for the info.That is interesting about Nana. She must have been older than the other girls at that shop by 10 years or so. Still, I doubt anybody complained. She said that she had a kid in Korea, so I guess its hard for her to come here.I've tried searching for another shop like Saranes (ie at the same price level. 10000 per hour, less expensive than KDH) but can't find anything. All the shops I find at that price level only have Chinese girls. Do you know of any good places?[/QUOTE]I haven't been able to locate a good Korean place which is why I use KDHs now. I came across a couple of good Chinese places in Sugamo which I wrote about, but they went out of business shortly after I wrote the reports. I believe this place took over for one of the shops I went to and they feature a mix of girls (Korean, Chinese, Japanese halves, and some other random nationalities).[url]http://www.s-diamond.net/top.html[/url] Every time I thought about calling the place up, I wound up finding a good deal on a KDH and not going. If you try the shop let me know how it is. From what's on the website it looks like a good place.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1232956]Hey Blue Rose,

Did you get FS from Ai?[/QUOTE]No, I didn't ask and am fine without FS. But it took me a while to get an appointment with Ai after being refused several times.

I hear there is (was?) a pink salon near JanJan where you can choose to do a 30min session with 3 girls 10min each. Is it true? What if you cum with the first girl? Can you still go for the other 2? Share your experience please.

[QUOTE=KingD; 1226365]Hi, I'm in Tokyo only for one more week and really wanted to have a sexual experience with a Japanese girl before I leave. As I'm staying with my uncle and his family here, I can't have a Delivery to my place.I read parts of the Thread and it seems like DELICIOUS seems to be a good place, yet I can't find the adress of the webpage. Can you please provide me with it? Also, I'd be happy if somebody could answer following questions:1. Is it possible to have a (Delicious) Delivery with almost no Japanese Knowledge, only English? Do they understand English when I call? 2. Is it possible to have them delivered to a love hotel and will there be no problem with the love hotel? 3. Are there any hidden costs for a guaranteed FS (I read you have to tip them 5. 000, is there a minimum duration to get FS)? If there is any problem with the points above, what is the best (and maybe not most expensive) way to get laid with 0 Japanese knowledge and without being fooled? Thanks a lot![/QUOTE]Since I live in Shinjuku, I am able to get the special 70m for 12000 (I think). I can't choose the girl for the special, but I kinda like the surprise! FS is ALWAYS 5000 extra, and both time I tried the service, they both thought I knew about it (I didn't the first time, but she was the one putting a condom on my dick, it's not even like I had to ask if FS was available).I'm not sure if they speak English, but you should try, you can meet in front of an hotel afaik.I got 2 shots in 70 minutes both times. I had the girls come at around 7pm when it opens, one girl said she had 5 guys in one night the night before, and fell asleep with the last guy. So get them while they are still genki.Both girls were cute and very GFE, probably the best value in Tokyo.BUT, don't be fooled, these girls are CHINESE and not Japanese. They can probably fool a tourist, they both spoke good Japanese, but I caught on their accent withing a second. Look wise, they both could have fooled me and they can pass for Japanese no problems.Good luck!

I'm in the mood to write, so here's a review of a place I haven't seen mentioned on the forum. It's a hotel health in my old stomping grounds of Ueno. Here's the site:[url]http://www.ueno-lip.com[/url]Word of warning: This place is gaijin friendly, but even then very choosy about its customers. They will grill you to make sure you have good Japanese ability (I am very fluent, JLPT 1) and know and will follow the rules. Be polite, clean, and dress well. Most of the other customers are clean cut, suited salaryman types. You will not get FS here, do not try, you will most likely be banned and make the establishment rethink serving us. Be polite and treat the girls well.That said, I have never paid a gaijin tax here, and I have always been offered my pick of any girl on duty and have never been refused service by any girl I've chosen (but they all ask tencho about your Japanese ability). If you can do everything right you will get the same treatment as the Japanese customers.On to the fun part! Check in at the desk and pay the fee (be sure to use the discount on the site if it is your first time!) then head to the hotel. I used Diamond because it is cheap, but clean. Girl will arrive around 10 minutes after you call from the room.The girls are mostly college students, OLs, or girls you would find working at the department store. All of the girls were very clean, attractive, and in their early to late twenties. Chat a bit, disrobe, and hit the showers together. She'll wash your parts and make you gargle something that looks like iodine, then back to the bed for the main event! There is no limit to the number of shots you can take within the time limit. I averaged two. One girl was CBJ, but no condom for sumata, the rest didn't bother with rubbers. Each girl is different in how she plays so ask the tencho if you have any concerns. I've never had any complains about any of the girls' techniques. This shop knows how to pick them! Or at least I do.Bonus: All of the girls have great hygiene and apparently the shop has a contract with a clinic where the girls can get tested for free and most if not all do. I've never come across bad pussy here. Great place for a day at the Y. I love licking clit here! If you like good, clean fun, can follow the rules (no FS!) , and can talk your way out of a paper bag in Japanese, then I highly recommend Ueno Lip. Can't speak for the rest of the chain though.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1232865]Thanks to this board, I discovered AM soon after coming to Japan.As you can tell by my recent posts, I have started experimenting with DH instead.Although people often bittch about the quality of AM, I am beginning to think that AM is altogether a better deal. At AM, it is understood that there will be FS. For 38, 000, you get as many shots as you can handle in two hours. Usually, I have gotten three shots in the two hours. One time I got 4. The girls have generally had good technique.At DH, you never know if there is going to be FS, and if there is, there is often a tip, so it ends up being almost as expensive as AM, generally for one shot. Although the girls have been younger than at AM, I would not say they have been better looking, and I have had a few with downright bad technique, as if they had never touched a dick before.I am thinking of just going back to AM.[/QUOTE]So any of the chix you met at Shibuya Smile look like shibuya gyaru girls, mini skirt and boots type?

What I don't get about Ai is that she is by far the best looking girl I have gotten in DH, but she seems to have trouble getting customers. She is usually one of the "pick up" girls when she works (ie Grimpeur usually has to put her "on sale"). Her photos on the website are terrible, but the unblurred photos that they show you in the store look just like her.

I wonder if the Japanese customers avoid her because they know that she is no FS.

[QUOTE=Bluerose;1233159]No, I didn't ask and am fine without FS. But it took me a while to get an appointment with Ai after being refused several times.[/QUOTE]

Anna, Aina, and Miu had that look the most. Aina even wore those plastic glasses without lenses.

[QUOTE=Radar1;1233847]So any of the chix you met at Shibuya Smile look like shibuya gyaru girls, mini skirt and boots type?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your reply.

I was thinking Haruna looked good too. This makes me rethink trying out Kanna. Her photos on the website are hot, but who knows what she looks like in real life.

At Smile, some of the girls keep blogs, and even post pictures of themselves on their blogs which you can compare with the photos on the website. Thanks to her blog, I avoided Suzu. Suzu's photos on the website look cute, but her real photos on the blog are terrible.

Thanks to the blogs, I can confirm that Riri's, Shiho's, and Mei's photos are accurate. They are stunners, but are gaijin NG.

[QUOTE=Radar1; 1232948]What a great post, thanks very much for your input, agree with your comments, yen for yen these places arent reliable enough. I tried Haruna at smile, much uglier than photos and hopeless technique, no FS. I also tried Seri, who was very preety, and gave a great BJ, not sure if she was up for FS thou.

Would say at 5A Kasumi and Kitty were both good, avoid new girl Reika, to be fair does say inexperienced, and she was just that, waste of money.

Your list off girls at Smile, like you I like the Shibuya style chix, short minis and thigh high boots. Any of the ones you listed fit this bill?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls; 1234026]What I don't get about Ai is that she is by far the best looking girl I have gotten in DH, but she seems to have trouble getting customers. She is usually one of the "pick up" girls when she works (ie Grimpeur usually has to put her "on sale"). Her photos on the website are terrible, but the unblurred photos that they show you in the store look just like her.

I wonder if the Japanese customers avoid her because they know that she is no FS.[/QUOTE]I think you are right since Grimpeur is well-known for FS among Japanese (just read the Japanese ni-chanelu will tell you that instantly) or at least many girls offer FS or AF.

Can you show me where to find the Japanese ni-chanelu?

[QUOTE=Bluerose;1234574]I think you are right since Grimpeur is well-known for FS among Japanese (just read the Japanese ni-chanelu will tell you that instantly) or at least many girls offer FS or AF.[/QUOTE]

Hi all, I am will be back in Japan in February after some time.I went about 3 years or so often JANJAN. And it was 3 or 4 girls sucking you one after each other and last one make you come.Now I read only one girl. So didi it change? What other options around there? Any option for a gajin for FS? Thanks sfor the help. I will post of my experiences when I was there.Michael

Tried out Aina from Smile the other day, and she was really cute, and sure enough FS was on the menu without extra tips. A really nice experience all in all. She didn't wear any glasses though.What should be mentioned about Smile, though, is their gaijin tax. They added 10k to the basic play price, a 3k membership fee (on their site, they currently advertise free memberships) and 3k for choosing a girl (2k on the site). All in all 14k on top of a relatively normal price, and then the hotel on top of that added up to around 35k for an hour, which for me is probably too expensive to go again, even if I have a member card. Also, you can't reserve by phone, but have to show up at their shop if you're foreign, which I found unnecessary and annoying.

[QUOTE=LoveShibuyaGirls;1234657]Can you show me where to find the Japanese ni-chanelu?[/QUOTE]Just randomly pick up from google:

[url]http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/sports/30205/storage/1236049191.html[/url]

Coded language is used throughout discussion.

&22522; &30436; full sex.

&22522; full sex.

&22522; &12398; &20154; girls who offer FS.

For those who can read Japanese, an extensive BBS site on Japanese fuzoku industry.

[url]http://www.bbspink.com/bbspink.html[/url]