7. The likelihood of an adverse legal outcome is probably minuscule, so in the end this activity is just one more to add to the list of options. One more kink in the land of kinks.
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7. The likelihood of an adverse legal outcome is probably minuscule, so in the end this activity is just one more to add to the list of options. One more kink in the land of kinks.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2986038]Alltaken really appreciate the reports. The reports + Traveler advice have fine-tuned my strategy for upcoming trip. Japan is too expensive not to do some research on girl options so you saved me a lot of time.
From your reports it seems like you asked about the menu, add-ONS and got clear with all the girls at the beginning. Specifically FS chitsu sex. My question is did you need to bring it up or did they bring it up? And in any of your adventures did you just start with fun and let it play out, and see how she reacts to you doing what you want?
Lastly were you in Japan for mongering soley or did you do tourist stuff; what top 5 things do you recommend doing?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]No problem, happy to help and thanks for the questions.
To your first question. It depended on the agency. All the girls at THC brought it up first, either when I asked for the menu or during the session when things heated up. Even with my THC threesome session, the girls brought it up first. I'll post a report about this soon. I've read some reports that say some girls are THC are strictly no FS but that obviously didn't apply to any of the girls I saw.
It was the opposite for the girls at TAE. They didn't bring it up first, I brought it up during the sessions. As you've read in my report, Risa / Hinata acted like it wasn't allowed but I think we're clear that it's because it was a threesome and they would allow it if it was 1 v1. Miki didn't hesitate at all when I brought it up during our 1 v1 session and was happy to FS. I believe soaplands are always FS so I didn't have to ask anything there.
Maybe to just keep your expectations in check or for a better negotiating strategy, it's important to point out that I never went into the session expecting FS. Unlike my inability to pop more than once, I mentioned multiple times in my reports that I'm a one-and-done guy and to me, a nice BBBJ with a CIM finish sometimes feels better than FS. So it's never been a disappointment for me as long as I finish so I mentioned that I wasn't disappointed at all not getting FS with Risa and Hinata. I also didn't think I'd want FS when I first saw Miki and was disappointed by her face but her body / service / price pushed me over. I also didn't think I'd get FS during my THC threesome session because they initially quoted a price that I thought was too high. But I think they realized as the session went on that I really didn't care about FS and brought the prices down twice!
Sorry, that was a long-winded way of saying if you're set on getting FS, I think you'd have no problem with 90%+ of the girls during a 1 v1 session. If you do 3 P, I'd wait until they bring it up first. I'd also be a little more cautious when bringing it up with the girls from TAE vs THC. THC girls felt much more experienced and professional and they know what the deal is. TAE girls are younger and more "amateur" so use your best judgment. Note also that not all girls from TAE are foreigner-friendly. Try to read reviews to make sure the girls you want offer FS.
To your last question. There was daily mongering but it wasn't just a mongering trip. I did touristy things and even had a couple of business meetings. But it wasn't my first time in Tokyo so I didn't do the big touristy things that required me to buy tickets or get in long lines. In hindsight, I wish I planned it out better and I plan to write a "tips and lessons learned" post soon. As for my favorite things, that depends so much on personal taste and I assume I'm much older than you so it'll seem boring. My lists usually end up looking very random but in no particular order:
- Just walking everywhere and walking tours: I love to walk around in random areas and try to get a sense of how people live. I was waking up at 5 AM due to jetlag and I'd just go out and walk for hours and hours. Seeing such a crowded city empty and just waking up is beautiful to me. I also like walking tours because they teach me some history and give me a sense of where things are and I make mental notes of what to revisit later. I did walking tours in Shinjuku, Asakusa, Akihabara, General Tokyo (Ueno). I tried to do a walking tour in Kamakura but it wasn't available for the date I wanted.
- Eating: Enough has been said about the food in Japan.
- Random encounters (not mongering): I can expound on this if you want but I enjoy making connections via random encounters. I went out for drinks with one of the tour guides. I struck up a conversation with a random girl at a bar and had a good chat sharing drinks. I struck up a conversation with a random girl at a restaurant and we connected. She invited me out to drinks with her friend and we went out in Shibuya and had a good time. These are real-life experiences that I personally find very memorable.
- Long train rides: comfortable, beautiful, relaxing, gets me away from the crowds in Tokyo.
- People watching: Tokyo is a cool city with lots of interesting people / fashion and you make of it what you will.
- Of course, the mongering: Whether it's soaplands or oppai bars or DH services, almost all the girls were so sweet. Regardless of service level, they were kind to me. I still think about the service I got from Hinata at E'toile. I still think about how cute Hinata from TAE was. I still think about how beautiful Fuyuno from THC was. I understand these are subjective and YMMV but they're my experiences.
Sorry it's not specific things or locations for you to visit. I'd say it's like the movie, "Lost in Translation", just go with the flow and let things happen.
[QUOTE=Runon99;2986179]7. The likelihood of an adverse legal outcome is probably minuscule, so in the end this activity is just one more to add to the list of options. One more kink in the land of kinks.[/QUOTE]IDK anything about that pal.
[URL]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/02/04/japan/crime-legal/brothel-arrest-foreign-visitors/[/URL]
Japan supposedly has some of the toughest prisons in the world. Even legendary bad ass Chuck Zito was admittedly reduced to tears when he was locked up over here.
I wouldn't risk illegal activity in a place where the same activity is totally legal. IDK man, that's weird to me.
Best of luck.
First time in Tokyo I was lucky enough to come across some good reviews. I ended up doing my own research and taking some chances too. Hey it seems like fun to explore. Anyway I ended up with a happy surprise ending from a super cute girl who is totally fluent in English. Her name is Emily, and she speaks like a cute young American girl (though obviously better looking and with a bit of a cute accent).
I got her sent over from this place called Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest. If it wasn't for reviews, I would have no idea. The website just looks like a regular massage business, and it even says "no sexual activity. " It might just depend on your lucky but I had a great appointment here with a 27 year old beauty who made me shoot a ton of nut.
[URL]https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo[/URL]
Well I talked to them on WhatsApp telling where I was and who I wanted. They said Emily would be available in a couple of hours. The time comes and they send me messages: "she's on her way," "she just arrived," finally "she is downstairs please find her in a black dress. ".
I went down the elevator and there she was. Emily is very pretty, probably taller than average for a Japanese girl, slim but with nice boobs you can see through the dress.
All of my nervousness disappeared when she gave me a big smile and took me by the hand! We went to my room and immediately she started chatting to me like an old friend. It really put my mind at ease.
She asked me to pay in the room. Then she asked me to shower. While I washed off, she set down some towels and warmed up some massage lotion. When I came out in a towel, she unwrapped me and had me lay face first. The massage was good, especially due to the warm lotion but also because she was just plain fun to talk to. She spent time in America so she was more familiar than a "pure" Japanese girl might be.
All the while she would make kind of sexual jokes or accidentally bump my nuts. I read reviews so I kinda expected it. Finally she reached down and just started working my dick and balls. With her sof hands and the warm lotion it felt really amazing. She had me turn over when I was totally hard. Then she slid up her dress and got down to really beating me off. What a master! It was really erotic and I could feel the orgasm building until I finally closed my eyes and let it all out. She seemed really pleased with herself for getting me to cum so much.
We chatted a little more as I showered again and she cleaned up. Unlike America, I was never upsold or asked for a tip. Once I was clean she rubbed my head until timer went off. Then she said her goodbyes and disappeared into the hotel hallway.
One of the best massages I ever had. For 20000 Yen less than I pay at home from an older woman who speaks no English. No wonder you guys love Japan!
[QUOTE]It was the opposite for the girls at TAE. They didn't bring it up first, I brought it up during the sessions. As you've read in my report, Risa / Hinata acted like it wasn't allowed but I think we're clear that it's because it was a threesome and they would allow it if it was 1 v1. Miki didn't hesitate at all when I brought it up during our 1 v1 session and was happy to FS. I believe soaplands are always FS so I didn't have to ask anything there.[/QUOTE]And just to show how YMMV this can be, I have had several TAE girls bring it up with me first!
Like he said, really this is just a place to let things happen and see where they go. That leads to the best experiences for sure!
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;2986607]And just to show how YMMV this can be, I have had several TAE girls bring it up with me first!
Like he said, really this is just a place to let things happen and see where they go. That leads to the best experiences for sure![/QUOTE]
This is the way.
[QUOTE=JackieMarlo;2986601]IDK anything about that pal.
[URL]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/02/04/japan/crime-legal/brothel-arrest-foreign-visitors/[/URL][/QUOTE]
They arrested brothel operators, the staff. That is illegal. In particular this one was Kabukicho which is known for aggressive touts.
In Japan however, there is no punishment for Johns. That's just the law, it's not some loophole or gray area. It's certainly not the only country like that. The only punishment you will hear of is for those engaged with minors, for which a separate special law exists to protect minors. Don't do that.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2968569&viewfull=1#post2968569[/URL] Japan Legal situation
[URL]https://youtu.be/oyn-qEYUn68?t=1307[/URL] Delivery Health worker answers 98% of your questions
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2970736&viewfull=1#post2970736[/URL] Legal age 18, drinking age 20
[QUOTE=JackieMarlo;2986604]All the while she would make kind of sexual jokes or accidentally bump my nuts. I read reviews so I kinda expected it. Finally she reached down and just started working my dick and balls. With her sof hands and the warm lotion it felt really amazing. She had me turn over when I was totally hard. Then she slid up her dress and got down to really beating me off. What a master! It was really erotic and I could feel the orgasm building until I finally closed my eyes and let it all out. She seemed really pleased with herself for getting me to cum so much.
We chatted a little more as I showered again and she cleaned up. Unlike America, I was never upsold or asked for a tip. Once I was clean she rubbed my head until timer went off. Then she said her goodbyes and disappeared into the hotel hallway.
One of the best massages I ever had. For 20000 Yen less than I pay at home from an older woman who speaks no English. No wonder you guys love Japan![/QUOTE]
Awesome to hear. HJs and "health" massages are perfectly legal in Japan. They can even openly advertise them, but when a place doesn't it lets the girl be ymmv in case of rare guys she's not comfortable with. See both the DH youtube interview in the above link, or my own interview in the below link with a DH girl. At DH, girls can choose who they bang. Whereas at soap, they have to bang. In the same way, with sensual massage the girls can choose who they HJ or more with. You generally get it, and on the upside the girls are more often very skilled and decent looking if not great. Thanks for your report.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2979529&viewfull=1#post2979529[/URL] [B]DH negotiation for fs[/B]
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2986704]In Japan however, there is no punishment for Johns. That's just the law, it's not some loophole or gray area. It's certainly not the only country like that. The only punishment you will hear of is for those engaged with minors, for which a separate special law exists to protect minors. Don't do that.[/QUOTE]This is 100% the problem.
See here: [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/japannews/comments/1g6j2c2/the_first_crackdown_on_the_purchaser_side_of/?rdt=51518[/URL].
Why would anyone risk anything like this in a land of 10000 legal brothels?
[QUOTE=JackieMarlo;2986601]IDK anything about that pal.
[URL]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/02/04/japan/crime-legal/brothel-arrest-foreign-visitors/[/URL]
Japan supposedly has some of the toughest prisons in the world. Even legendary bad ass Chuck Zito was admittedly reduced to tears when he was locked up over here.
I wouldn't risk illegal activity in a place where the same activity is totally legal. IDK man, that's weird to me.
Best of luck.[/QUOTE]From what I read it's usually the street hooker and not the client under the prostitution law. But why take the risk to your point? Japanese prisons are sick from what I see on TV and their presumption of guilt is completely messed up. Plus, the fact you're dealing with a lot more scam artists on the street. Better to listen to the bros here, research and read girl reviews, and try to narrow down mediocre service.
[QUOTE=JackieMarlo;2986604]
I got her sent over from this place called Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest. If it wasn't for reviews, I would have no idea. The website just looks like a regular massage business, and it even says "no sexual activity. " It might just depend on your lucky but I had a great appointment here with a 27 year old beauty who made me shoot a ton of nut.
We chatted a little more as I showered again and she cleaned up. Unlike America, I was never upsold or asked for a tip. Once I was clean she rubbed my head until timer went off. Then she said her goodbyes and disappeared into the hotel hallway.
One of the best massages I ever had. For 20000 Yen less than I pay at home from an older woman who speaks no English. No wonder you guys love Japan![/QUOTE]How was the actual massage? After 17 hours flying from USA then another 6 hours BKK to Japan I will need a decent massage. If a HJ from a pretty girl goes along with it all the better.
What board or website did you look at for reviews? The message website itself doesn't have much of anything and those are usually BS anyway.
I've read that tipping in Japan may actually show disrespect. Is this really accurate? Certainly not complaining if it is but I need to then curb my tipping because I do so without thinking out of habit if service good.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2986845]I've read that tipping in Japan may actually show disrespect. Is this really accurate? Certainly not complaining if it is but I need to then curb my tipping because I do so without thinking out of habit if service good.[/QUOTE]
Just don't tip, it's not a thing. It will lead to confusion more than anything at a normal establishment. Giving back exact change to customers is also very important in Japan. Certainly, you can find unusual exceptions such as shop run by foreigners or that deal with mostly foreigners. But that is unusual and you should not tip in Japan. There is nothing more to it.
There are other websites that have reviews, but I don't use them anymore. Even when other reviewers are honest, they usually don't share my taste or standards in women. Rather, I find shops I like and just keep using them. Same way I keep using Manzoku to get into shops, because I know Manzoku lists legit shops and is professional and knowledgeable about each one. If I want looks, I go oppai pubs. If I want service and convenience, I go Kira Kira. I understand other guys are looking for more, so they use DH. Whereas in my case jgirls fly all the way to the US and I can bang them back home.
In addition to many shops listed on this thread, you can research through Japanese run sites like Yoasobi. Yoasobi is simply the foreigner friendly portal of Cityheaven. With all the options listed, I've never needed help from others in 20 years, all I needed was help at the very beginning. It's why the guides I write focus on the basics. When possible, I prefer shops that are "for Japanese but foreigner okay" since that cuts down a lot on B+S and other service issues like GPS. Japanese customers have high standards on average. But I get that other people like the convenience of "English okay" and "for foreigner" services. There is a comfort in knowing the girls are used to foreigners, but it's not necessary - I got good service even when I was the only foreigner. The for Japanese shops as a rule are going to be better if you can get them.
To that end, here is a list of some shops. Since these shops are all mentioned on this thread, you can do a search of their name or website to find reports on them.
DH
[URL]https://amateurtokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Amateur Escorts
[URL]https://hentaitokyo.com/[/URL] Tokyo Hentai Club
[URL]https://escort-taitanic.com/[/URL] Taitanic Yokohama
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] Gingira - "for Japanese but foreigner okay"
Soaplands
[URL]https://kirakira.eroticguide.tokyo/[/URL] Kira Kira - "for Japanese but 100% foreigner okay"
[URL]https://barubola.com/en/[/URL] Barubola
Oppai Pubs
[URL]https://luxe-shinjuku.jp/[/URL] Luxe website
[URL]https://www.cabaseku.jp/kanto/kabukichou/shop/1537/[/URL] Leicester, if you know some Japanese
[URL]https://www.hosekibako-shinjuku.com/[/URL] Hosekinobako, if you know some Japanese
Reports about various shops
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2983139&viewfull=1#post2983139[/URL] Booking by LINE for Etoile in Tokyo, Yoshiwara
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2964542&viewfull=1#post2964542[/URL] Oppai pub guide
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2979345&viewfull=1#post2979345[/URL] Sayuri Ran Thai Massage
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2979332&viewfull=1#post2979332[/URL] Janjan bj just close your eyes
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2980818&viewfull=1#post2980818[/URL] Tokyo Amateur Escort
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2980193&viewfull=1#post2980193[/URL] GFE Soapland Kawasaki
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2981608&viewfull=1#post2981608[/URL] Robo deli
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2982421&viewfull=1#post2982421[/URL] Casanova Soapland Yoshiwara
I am a darker Indian guy who has lived in the States for 20 years, I work in consulting and am tall and fit. I have mongered in Brazil, Colombia, US, Canada, UK, Netherlands, Dubai and Germany. I have always liked asian girls and have fucked a couple both here in the US and Canada. I prefer going the Sugar baby route now as plain P4 P does not interest me anymore.
I am traveling back to India in May and I decided to stop over in Tokyo and Bangkok for 1 day each on my way to India. I have read a couple of pages of this thread and noticed ATXguy and Traveler saying some clubs did not allow them to enter. ATXguy even mentioned how he cannot imagine the discrimination for Black, Indians and Middle Easterners. Even in the Sugar world I have come across some Asians here in the US and Canada who don't want to even meet when they realize I am brown guy.
I have always wanted to experience the Oppai Clubs and Soaplands. Couple of names I have seen on this thread are Luxe and Leicester. Based on some other comments, It seems like I should not even try going into these clubs. Are there other Oppai clubs where they have allowed Indians? Also, do THC and soaplands like Kira Kira and GFE Soapland allow Indians?
I just don't want to do DH without knowing for sure I will get FS. Thanks in advance. I am happy to answer questions on the countries I listed above.
[QUOTE=Aaragon2022;2986980]I am a darker Indian guy who has lived in the States for 20 years, I work in consulting and am tall and fit. I have mongered in Brazil, Colombia, US, Canada, UK, Netherlands, Dubai and Germany. I have always liked asian girls and have fucked a couple both here in the US and Canada. I prefer going the Sugar baby route now as plain P4 P does not interest me anymore.
I am traveling back to India in May and I decided to stop over in Tokyo and Bangkok for 1 day each on my way to India. I have read a couple of pages of this thread and noticed ATXguy and Traveler saying some clubs did not allow them to enter. ATXguy even mentioned how he cannot imagine the discrimination for Black, Indians and Middle Easterners. Even in the Sugar world I have come across some Asians here in the US and Canada who don't want to even meet when they realize I am brown guy.
I have always wanted to experience the Oppai Clubs and Soaplands. Couple of names I have seen on this thread are Luxe and Leicester. Based on some other comments, It seems like I should not even try going into these clubs. Are there other Oppai clubs where they have allowed Indians? Also, do THC and soaplands like Kira Kira and GFE Soapland allow Indians?
I just don't want to do DH without knowing for sure I will get FS. Thanks in advance. I am happy to answer questions on the countries I listed above.[/QUOTE]I wouldn t bother stopping in Tokyo if I were you. It is very likely that you will get turned down everywhere and the few cases you might get serviced are most likely to be bad experiences with low tier girls who might not even be Japanese.
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2986978]Just don't tip, it's not a thing. It will lead to confusion more than anything at a normal establishment. Giving back exact change to customers is also very important in Japan. Certainly, you can find unusual exceptions such as shop run by foreigners or that deal with mostly foreigners. But that is unusual and you should not tip in Japan. There is nothing more to it.
In addition to many shops listed on this thread, you can research through Japanese run sites like Yoasobi. Yoasobi is simply the foreigner friendly portal of Cityheaven. With all the options listed, I've never needed help from others in 20 years, all I needed was help at the very beginning. It's why the guides I write focus on the basics. When possible, I prefer shops that are "for Japanese but foreigner okay" since that cuts down a lot on B+S and other service issues like GPS. Japanese customers have high standards on average. But I get that other people like the convenience of "English okay" and "for foreigner" services. There is a comfort in knowing the girls are used to foreigners, but it's not necessary - I got good service even when I was the only foreigner. The for Japanese shops as a rule are going to be better if you can get them.[/QUOTE]Thanks Traveler. I'm not going to complain about not tipping. In fact it's a welcome change from the expected tip attitude in the USA. Maybe AT advice of showing up with little box of chocolate is a good way to get off to a good start.
I will check out the site you mentioned and cityheaven once I change my vpn setting to Japan. I think I have my game plan for the trip in a few weeks based on the advice from you, AT and RR.
[QUOTE=TravelerX;2986978]To that end, here is a list of some shops. Since these shops are all mentioned on this thread, you can do a search of their name or website to find reports on them.
DH
[URL]https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html[/URL] Gingira - "for Japanese but foreigner okay"[/QUOTE]I went on website of Gingira as it seems to be in Shinjuko. It is weird explanation of services. Seems like it's a soapland onj the one hand but it also has some sections that imply it's more of an OPPAI? Very confusing?
I know O means "yes" and X means "no". Some girls don't take foreigner. In search area they have option "Japanese O" and "Japanese X" to signify which girls take foreigners. Seems ass backward. Should say "foreigner O" or "foreigner X" shouldn't it?
I haven't seen this place reviewed (maybe I missed). But I'm tempted since it's where I'm staying. Thoughts?
No issues for Indians. I am Indian lived in Tokyo for more than 8 months. Just make sure you choose girl who can speak little English and ok with foreigner.
Don't be pushy for any service. Since you only have 1 day, things might not be so smooth. I had found many girls will be shy first 2-3 times and they open up after that. I had great experiences in Tokyo, Osaka but had to meet the same girl multiple times to get good service.
[QUOTE=Aaragon2022;2986980]I am a darker Indian guy who has lived in the States for 20 years, I work in consulting and am tall and fit. I have mongered in Brazil, Colombia, US, Canada, UK, Netherlands, Dubai and Germany. I have always liked asian girls and have fucked a couple both here in the US and Canada. I prefer going the Sugar baby route now as plain P4 P does not interest me anymore.
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